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Hey, everybody, Welcome back to
another episode of Challenge just to podcast all

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about the challenges always. I am
Brian sitting uh apparently now somewhat single in

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Germantows Always Big Oca Sweet Team and
uh oh, someone has a lady in

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her lap. Carlin San Diego and
Reya and Zach found the new love of

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his life still at work. That's
right, Zachie Banana has found the love

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of my life and going to Ohio
tomorrow to try to find another one.

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Wow, doubling up. You canna
visit Ryan? And oh is Ryan?

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And Hi? I could Marie's in
Cleveland where you were? I am going?

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I don't remember it's It's like a
little bit north of Columbus. It

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is a common theme tonight for you. Do you know anything, Zach,

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Zach, your life must be awesome. I'm meeting this girl. I don't

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know what her name is, name
is She's the love of my life,

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but I don't remember her name.
I can't pronounce the name of her town.

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I'm going to a thing in Ohio
next in the next two days,

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but I don't remember where it's at, have no idea where it is,

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but I do remember the girl's name
is Ashley Ohio. So Ashley okay,

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yes, Jesus, Zach, keep
him busy. Good for you. Doesn't

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listen to this jealous. We've not
discussed the podcast yet. As far as

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I know, she's not aware of
this. Oh smart dude, you can't

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tell the you can't say anything of
the podcast. Tell. I had to

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tell Cindy about the podcast. She
immediately signed up for our Patreon. I've

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been listen to all the shit I
said about her on the pre show Apple

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See, Nope, that's why you
can't do it, Zach. You got

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to keep it a secret, all
right? And Carlin, aren't you the

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reasoning that I have gone on a
date with? I have told about it,

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but it's always been It is an
absolutely trash show about an absolutely trash

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reality TV show, and I love
every second of it. Do you do

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you apologize for doing it? Carlin? Do when you interesse it that's a

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hobby? You do you say like, I know it's stupid, and I

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do not apologize for it. I
say that I do a podcast with three

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friends of mine about an absolutely trash
reality TV show where we are just shitting

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on a bunch of people from this
absolutely trash reality TV show. It's basically

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just us fucking around for an hour
talking shit about this absolutely trash reality teacher.

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Do the men? Are the men
put off by this or do they

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know? They find it funny?
Most of the time, they don't care

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at all. It's not a positive
or negative. It's just a thing.

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Do you tell them you're the token
female on a show with three other dudes.

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Uh? It takes a little bit
before we get there. But if

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they ask how I got into that, then yes, I will relay the

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story of I have took a female
on here because the ex wives of the

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hosts are no longer on the and
I usually go, oh wait, a

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wife exodus, a very strange wife
exodus. I think while you're having you're

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having such bad luck, Carling.
Yeah, I need to just not date

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anyone while I am on the show. You should have known. All three

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of us got divorced. With the
show's been going on. We're cursed.

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Cursed dating has cursed since ever so
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Colin's job anytime. What happened on
this episode? Oh well, it's episode

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nine. It's called Waiting for a
Star to Fall. We have Cam with

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the recap. Obviously we've talked about
the recaps enough. We don't have to

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do that now. Back at the
house in the recap, what did she

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meant? What happened? She mentioned
her kid and wanted to buy a house

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Kingston. Yeah, I feel like
that should have been part of the the

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drinking game part of the chow league. Did you get me smiling like a

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goofball? Oh? No, I
moved my camera before it happened. I

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should get points every time Cam says
something about Jeson. There we so usually,

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you know, it's like back of
the house right after the elimination.

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A little different this time around.
We're back at the house at a pool

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party apparently the next day. That's
what I'm gonna guess. We see Laurel

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and Nicole, they're getting all cozy
in the pool. You see Derek in

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Espito. Derek and Aspuito obviously can't
get enough of that. Wait, that's

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later with Avery when she's cleaning the
pool. No, I think that's here

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too. He's kind of dancing around. This is where they're all kind of

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dancing around. Yeah, they're just
kind of having a fun time whatever.

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They're playing beer pong whatever. I'm
us these like party times. Everybody just

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seems like they're kind of having a
fun time. That seemed like one of

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those. Oh sorry, I just
posted a picture on the on our Instagram,

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and the very first thing that's on
here is Kara Maria and her back

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looks fucking great. Oh we'll get
into those so hot from the back.

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Oh my god, those shots of
her in and out of that locking fantastic.

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She looked like a superhero in and
out of that mud pit at the

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end when the water's glistening off her
slow motion. She's so hot. She's

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the hottest. Yes, this the
super hottest. That's everybody in the show.

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Yep. Uh. We have Leroy
and cam Leroy and one of his

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confessionals says something like kind of shockingly
uh mean about Kara. Uh just like

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sort of the way he phrased it
was a little dirtier than Leroy usually talks

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say. He just said something like, oh, now that we're back,

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we just got to get car out
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Like just something that was sort of
like that considering that like that they

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have they have like a friendship and
stuff, Yeah, and wondering who Leroy

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is and how he's always kind of
been the you know, the nice guy,

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and which I mean, maybe it's
that he has finally this season,

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he's finally like got the confidence to
not be the pawn of the big players

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and not like kind of just be
just come along with them, which I

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mean, Yeah, I was just
thinking it was more him taking the cam's

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side in this can versus car thing. Yeah, but whatever it was,

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it felt it just felt a little
weird. When Lear said up anyway,

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yeah, Flora's feature, she actually
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Flora, but she looked hot in
a bikini and she's funny. I know

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you disagree, Carlin. Well,
I mean I do think I realized why

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you like her, because she is
pale with dark hair and rather petite.

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Yeah, I don't I'm not a
petite. I don't think petit is my

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thing. Carl Carlin's ex girl you're
gonna date, it's gonna be like six

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or five, and Carlin has assigned
to me petit, But I'm not sure

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that that's like a tip thing.
I feel like most of the women who

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have been on this show and your
wife have all been pale with dark hair

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and tea. My ex wife just
looked petite next to me because I'm a

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huge man. She was like five
eight. She wasn't a small woman.

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Was she really five eight seven?
Maybe five eight? Yeah? All right,

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yeah, there's that anyway, I
just don't wait to think I'm a

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fat shamer Karlin. No, I'm
saying it is really really it's the the

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pale with dark hair that is my
moment. That the moment that that like

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I clued into that this afternoon.
Oh no, I understand why he likes

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her. I'm easy to spot.
Yes, no, pale, dark hair,

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You're immediately I'm just like, I'm
in. I'm into Wednesday Adams.

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Everybody wants to know how tall you
are? To six to two? Yeah,

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so I'm not. I mean,
I don't like Jack, but I'm

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like six two and until recently I
was two eighty, so I'm like heavy

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too. Anyway, this is very
this is very tall podcast. We'll be

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talking, well three of us are
other than honestly, this this podcast has

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been pretty consistently relatively tall. Yeah, and it was very tall. Yeah.

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And then yeah, and you're you're
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Carlin or something like that, Yeah, you're Yeah, you're an inter two

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taller than hell probably anyway, Uh, then we have meat. I always

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ain't gonna bring it up side,
Zach, how tall are you? For

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the longest time, I've always heard
five six? But I feel like the

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last couple of times i've been doctors, they're telling me five five, five

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five and a half now, but
I'm still claiming five six. You're shrinking?

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Does drinking too? So? Do
you feel like your height like stops

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you from getting dates? Is that
one of the things that's big now?

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Right? Height is big in the
dating world for men. I'm sure it'd

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help if I was taller bound or
like so Michelle, that Carl that I

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was seen in Washington, she she
was like six foot tall and like she

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didn't care, but no one it
didn't work out between us. A lot

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of our mutual friends are like,
oh, it's probably because she's so much

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taller than Mack. We actually got
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Cindy told me about an internet date
she went on. The guy got

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really mad because he felt Cidy did
not tell him she's like five eleven and

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she was taller than he was.
Yeah, I do feel like some men

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are intimidated by that. Yeah,
we're going to go off on this tangent

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real quick because it's It's one of
those things that I feel like, especially

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on dating apps and online dating,
women are very truthful about their height and

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men are not. And men don't
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six' one and five nine is
not five to eleven. And when a

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woman puts five to nine, they
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up and you are also five nine, you are going to be the same

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height. Or if you're saying that
you're five nine and you're actually five seven,

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she's going to be taller than you. Would you date a shorter guys,

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sho, I have data guys that
are shorter. I just I don't

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know I personal preference. I'm not
a huge fan of it. No,

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everything, I get it, and
I will say tim as far as your

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question goes. I did just order
socks off TikTok shop like a week ago.

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They have three inch platforms in them
to give me some extra height.

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Socks. Yes, soase tell me
that's fake socks. Yeah, so,

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because they're like, Hey, the
thing is, you know, if you

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can get these ones for your shoes, but then if you go to someone's

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house or somewhere where you take your
shoes off, you lose your height.

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But these ones are made for inside
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if you take your shoes off,
you don't lose your height. You gotta

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send me a link to these,
Zach. I got to see what these

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look like as someone who wears heels. That sounds awful. Have you gotten

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me at, Zach? Are they
are they on order? No? I

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got them like two nights ago.
I put them on. I tried them

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out the night I got them.
You know, only wre them for like

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five ten minutes. They were fine. You know. Now if I had

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to wear them for hours at a
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And you wear regular shoes on top
of these socks. Yeah, I

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mean when I was just wearing them
around my house, I try to mind.

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Just ye, I put them on
and I put my crocks on,

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and uh, no issues. I
can't picture how it would like fit comfortably

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inside of a shoe. My issue
is more of socks. Aren't usually they

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usually don't hold you in very well. You're kind of sliding around in socks,

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and if you have a hard soul
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you're gonna be sliding around the socks. You never heels. Are you want

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to be like on top of held
to the shoe that this sounds insane?

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Yeah, I'll try to find the
link for you, guys. Ago,

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I can, like I get home, I can like send you a picture

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of them. Stove wants you to
post the link in the chat. Yeah,

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because I want to see that this
seems this seems insane. Actually,

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I can listeners that are that are
listening to this podcast after we have taped

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it. Uh. If we find
the link, we will post it on

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the Facebook and Instagrams, because I'm
sure everybody wants to see this. You

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know, I'll go I should be
I should be able to grab it now

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because it should be in my uh
my order. Okay, this is insane,

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right, hold on, we have
to we have to, Ryan says,

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hearing that I know Zach Fox,
I mean I ran, but apparently

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I'm going to have to now.
Please don't. That is the biggest turn

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off ever, I'll give you.
Yeah, no one wants to see when

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someone completely naked except for their shocks
that are all the way up around their

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ankle, like all the way up
their calves. Like I don't know.

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I mean, you know a guy'd
be into it, but yeah, I

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guess I'll just have to like give
the lights first. I'm not a sock

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person either, Carl and I get
it. Yeah, it's just weird to

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me. It is weird to me, Like, if you're gonna be naked,

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then be naked. Don't don't have
your socks on. I don't think

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I would even notice who who has
the chance of notice socks if the rest

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of a person, women and feet
fetish dudes would notice. I can see

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boobs, I see nothing else.
I swear to god, I won't notice

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any other stitch clothing. And so
Ryan all got to do with gym the

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lights and get in bed once.
You know, once your horizontal, you're

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all the same height. Yeah,
Scott is saying what I'm saying. If

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he wears thick socks, you can't
wear shoes. I feel the same way.

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I don't know how I could fit
socks with a three inch sole on

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them. Into my shoes. Same. I'm very confused by all of us.

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We do. We have to move
on. We're gonna be this all

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night. Yeah, this is after
showing materials. We're like, we're like

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four bullet points into my very long
listeners. Uh, I know everybody's gonna

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mention it, so I have to
to. Leroy makes a joke with Cam

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about like, oh, I feel
like we have a little girl on the

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way, and Cam says, oh, I'm not joking, but whatever,

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they do have a daughter now this
the duration between this show and the area

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was so long that they actually do
have a daughter. Now Avery, we

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get a little bit of this love
connection between Avery and Adam that I don't

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give a fuck about that, not
care about this at all me either.

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Avery says she had a tough life. I don't care about that. But

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we learned she has a dog named
Daisy, and I have a daughter named

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Daisy, So I feel like we
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I mean, you should already know
she had a daughter a dog.

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How would I have known that,
Zach, Because she brought Daisy to the

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Real World house in Portland to live
with them. Oh, I didn't watch,

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I didn't watch a Real World She
brought her dog to a Real World

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house. Yeah, it was.
They had the kind of like the age

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cast member all right, she was
even like the dog was even like the

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opening credits. She used to get
mad because Naya would feed it like junk

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food and then it would diarrhea all
over that. I mean, that's like,

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don't bring your fucking dog to a
house a bunch of other like early

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twenty year olds that have no self
control. Well, she wants the money

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for her dog and for her brother, and she's had a rough life and

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blah blah blah, sob story and
don't care. Yeah, Zach, can

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you give me a thirty second version
of Avery's sob story that I don't care

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about? Uh? Can I?
That's? Yeah? So trants to help

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her brother, but they've always kind
of struggled financially, and it sounds like

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what she said, it's just her
and her brother and her sister left,

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and uh, I'm looking for more
like background. Do you know anything else

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that she didn't say on the episode, like why she had a hard life

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for how hard it's been, or
like was this brought up in the Real

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World season? It probably was.
I just remember I think it's just that,

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you know, she came from a
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believe there now, I don't know
when they died, and I think just

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her family didn't have much money growing
up and they just always struggled to get

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by. Apparently he got a full
scholarship to college, and but it doesn't

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cover his room, so she really
wants to take care of him while he's

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going to school. Yeah, that's
nice. Good for her, I guess.

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Uh. So, this is where
we start seeing that it's basically the

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whole house versus car Maria. She's
talking to Steve and she says that she

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likes Ryan, Jay and Ace,
but pretty much everybody else in the house

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well, I mean Steve of course
she's talking in but pretty much everybody else

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in the house doesn't really like her
talk to her, what sort of want

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her in the house? Steve affirms
this, everyone wants her out. And

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it's during this time that we see
Nicole pacing around the house like a fucking

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psychopath, saying that Kara shouldn't be
talking to Steve because Steve is Nicole's friend,

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not just her friend, but her
friend now like they have just become

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friends so you're not allowed to talk
to him because he's my friend, because

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we're in kindergarten, right, What
is this? What was this when she's

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stomping around the house like this and
they weren't even talking about her and she

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comes stopping over, keep my name
out of your mouth, like yeah,

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cold, cold, cold, yes
we So for the AI song this week,

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it was inspired by that Nicole and
Nicole in the Cole moment. Oh,

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it's a certified banger, Steve.
I think you can, you can,

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you can agree with that, but
this is where we get Asay and

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Carra is like a little sister to
him that he's never felt so connected to

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somebody like this. I don't know, it's kind of weird this shit about

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her, but whatever, I mean, I like, I don't know,

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Yeah, it was kind of strange. Yeah, but this is the Nicole

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and the Cole in the Cole part. I'm even on Carra's side. As

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petty and shitty as this was for
Kara, I don't know what else Car's

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supposed to do, Like Nicole just
coming out there, keep my name out

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of your mouth, and so Carra
just says her name a thousand times.

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Yeah, I mean and I was
totally on Carra's side as well, because

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it felt like Nicole came over there
completely out of the blue. During this

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whole thing, Nicole Nichole's confessional,
she talks about how, you know,

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car She's all always on Carra's mind, and that she's all that Kara thinks

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about, and that all that Kara
talks about, And all I wanted to

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do is like, Nicole, here's
a mirror. I'm pretty sure that that's

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you talking about yourself being in cars
and Car's stuff, like you are,

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Car is always in your shit,
not the other way around. Yep.

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It just it felt very weird.
Yep. This is the first time,

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and I mentioned it in our in
our group thread, but Nicole to me

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has always seemed very harmless. She's
just seemed like a goofball, dumbass kind

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of a person. And this is
the season where she just seems vindictive and

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horrible, and moments like this her
chilling. Nicole. Yeah, this this

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episode, I texted this to the
group earlier. This this episode made me

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realize that I might actually dislike her
more than I disliked Josh. Oh my

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gosh. Yeah, that's harsh,
because Josh is a moron and hard to

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watch. But she is vindictive and
a moron and hard to watch. Like

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by the end of this episode,
all I wanted to do was just make

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her leave, don't. I don't
want to see her anymore. I hate

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how much time they had given to
her. Yeah, it feels like Josh,

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for all of his faults, has
good intentions. I think we're seeing

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Nicole doesn't always have good intentions here. She never has good intentions. Yeah.

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So this is where we see Kara
talking pretty openly about her game to

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I forget who all ri is around
here, but Flora is certainly around and

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during this part part she calls Nicole
an idiot. And this is another thing.

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Flora comes in at that point in
time and sits down like she this

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is yet another person who has come
in and interjected into their conversation. Yeah,

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just to be like, oh you
you're talking game, You're talking shit,

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Like Okay, I'm gonna come sit
over here and I'm gonna I'm gonna

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show people while why you're an asshole
while being and I ass whole myself.

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Well, Josh, I mean,
Ryan wants to know what Josh thinks of

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Nicole. She likes peanut butter way
too much. I put peanut butter on

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my dick and jerk off with it. Ryan also said earlier Nicole is obsessed

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with Carra because she likes Laurel but
likes Kara better. Yeah, we learned

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that the first season we saw her, we saw the three of them in

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the house together. I like that
better. I can still remember how she

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said that I like car better.
Yeah, so yes, you nailed that.

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Carlin and I started seeing the bad
side of Flora here. Flora just

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sort of stomps and tells Carl like, don't call her an idiot, she's

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a fucking moron. Like idiot's a
pretty like lightweight insult to throw at somebody,

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like, especially someone who's a fucking
moron. Yeah. But Flora and

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her confessionals says that Kara is a
cry baby that you want to spank,

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which she's not wrong about that,
she's rude, the spanking part of the

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cry baby part, all of it, I don't think they part is why

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you want him. Well, maybe, like Jamie asked, maybe this is

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a good time. Zach and Phillison, are we missing something with Kara?

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How does everyone hate her? But
no one, none of the audience gets

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it. Thank you. Yes,
didn't we didn't we talk about maybe this

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was we talked about. So yeah. So this past week, another Challenge

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podcast had Adam Larsen on to do
an interview, and Adam basically said,

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like Kara just has too much confidence
in herself. Like she comes in there

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and she like suck him. She's
just like I I'm good enough to beat

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anyone here, and I'm good enough
to win this. And he's like,

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hey, it's not all about you. Like there's a bunch you know,

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there's ten other girls in here.
They're just as good as you. They

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could win this just as well.
Like the whole game is to prove who's

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the best one. That's the whole
they do. Yeah, no one's there

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for a participation participation trophy. Sorry, Zach, I didn't mean to.

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I meant to interrupt you, but
I should. No, I know,

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yes, that seems the thing is
he's, yeah, Adam has this mindset

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like oh, you know, we're
all just as good and like, you

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know, like I could win this, but took it anyone else, I'm

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no better. And he's like the
car seems like she's like, no,

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I'm stronger than most of these girls, I'm you know, more intelligent.

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Most of these girls like I'm better
and you know, not in a cock

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I mean, I guess a little
bit cocky, but just self confident.

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And they're like, yeah, we
don't like that. Yeah, Adam can

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go fuck himself with his in cel
energy. That's what I thought, And

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I would love to hear other people
say that, because I know when I

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first told you guys, you guys
are like, screw at him. But

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we also I remember, like he
said, the hot shows that way,

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So are we gonna have that same
action and say, like Leroy themselves with

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their in cel energy? That is
some serious bullshit, especially if if lee

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Roy is on that same train,
he can go fuck himself because he is

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married to it, or he is
with a woman who is very strong and

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very confident in the same way that
Kara is, and he's not giving that

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energy to hair Like. It is
some absolute bullshit that he thinks that if

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if Leroy is on that same train. Yeah, we can't just trust that

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Adam speaks for everyone. Yeah,
I'm giving the caveat of if Leroy feels

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that way about Kara, that is
some serious in celt bullshit. Energy because

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his partner is a very strong confident
woman. And yeah, yeah, saying

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Kara is too confident for her abilities
or too confident for the house whatever.

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It is some absolute bullshit. That
is the point of this game and not

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surprising for anyone watching this season.
But like when that clip kind of went

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around on social media, Jay and
Ace both came and kind of commented on

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and like backed up Kara, but
no other competitors have. I think Ryan

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also did Ryan and said he was
sort of on the fence in the house,

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but since coming home he's team Kara. I did see something from Laurel

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earlier basically saying, oh, you
know, like Ryan's just mad, you

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know, because I don't talk to
me anymore. So I was like flippingside,

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So that's probably what that's about.
That's the other thing is that Laurel

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and Nicole are both very strong,
confident women, like for them to have

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this kind of energy to Kara thinking
that she's too confident and that she's too

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big for her breeches and all that, like they can all go fuck themselves.

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I also think that the women,
especially whether I guess I should say

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the women more than the men do
have a bullying mentality in these houses typically,

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and it's usually like one person gets
singled out and that's the person that's

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picked on. Yep, we've had
we've had it's usually her. Yeah,

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but we've also had a nearly identical
conversation about Curly Fries, if you recall,

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she's always one that people complain about, and we're just like, what

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the fuck's the problem? And you
know, people who or not up with

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our parlance, and you know,
they could sit there and be like,

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oh, you know, car like
says she's better than everyone, but like,

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she's no better than any of us. But even Laurel was afraid to

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go face card this week. So
yeah, well and on top of that,

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like, no, Cara is better
than most of you. She was

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the first only female winner, like
single winner as a female. She was

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the first, so it's just it
yeah, yeah, Well, we see

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Laura, Laurel and Flora talking about
Cara being toxic and how horrible Cara is,

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and basically what it comes down to
is that they are using this calling

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Nicole an idiot as a reason to
throw Cara in and Laurel is talking a

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big game on her way out of
the house. I was kind of surprised

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everybody was talking about throwing car like
I understand the reasoning for it, but

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at the same time, like wants
you're gonna give her a chance like that.

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That is literally what she said that
last week, like this is what

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I want, Like you're actually gonna
give her a chance. I thought for

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sure that they were going to stonewall
her me too. I was really surprised

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that it got brought up that easily. I think Laurel is blinded by sort

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of rage and by something else Laurel
is making. If you really want to

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ticket to car, you keep her
in till the end game and just tell

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the star you keep her in.
You keep her in that middle group until

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the end, and then she can't
do shit. Yep. All she can

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do is vote one way or the
other. She cannot play yep. Well,

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with that, we're into the challenge. I always appreciate before these challenges

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that TJ recaps who the star holders
are, because I just do not ever

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remember. Uh. So going into
this challenge, the star holders are Adam,

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Steve, Veronica Leroy, Nicole,
and cam uh This challenge is called

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run the Plank. Somebody want to
sum it up for me. Anybody run

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out, grab your ball. It
lowers the puzzle which is just two pieces,

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and then put it on your board. Yep, yeah, it's heights

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above water. Hmm yeah yeah,
but the it's it looked like fun looks.

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It looked like a lot of fun. Uh but the big But that's

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because I fell asleep during this challenge. This is another way is you know

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what this challenging? He did some
drone shots of slow mo people flying through

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the air and ship you know what
I mean. This one could have been

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really fun to watch, but I
feel like it was lacking in something mm

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hmm. But TJ does drop that
it is a women's elimination day today,

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Guys, women's elimination. I'm kind
of surprised by that. Everybody's like,

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what car is like? Yes,
yep, we are all surprised, including

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those of us in the fantasy league
who banked on this being a men's day

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and made our picks according to that. Yep, all of us did,

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I think. But everybody but you
woolfie is still did pretty well this week.

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Drama Oh Crowl's got a different approach. Yeah, I went for drama

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this week. It felt like there
was still a bunch of drama. Yeah,

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all right, so we know it's
a women's elimination day. This game

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has played in two heats. Heat
one is Cam and leroy Ason, Kara,

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Veronica and Ryan, Steve and Flora. I only have two notable things

407
00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:33,079
here, and one is Cam's DQ. Anybody have anything to say about that?

408
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:40,119
That was I was kind of surprised
by that because this didn't feel like

409
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,039
it was that high off the ground
or that high off the water, And

410
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,799
I don't know, it just this
didn't feel like it was that big of

411
00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:49,839
a deal. They did mention at
one point in time, like her her

412
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,960
postpartum, like someone said, oh, her postpartum, she's thinking a better

413
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:55,799
kid, and I was doing And
the only thing I can think of is,

414
00:28:55,839 --> 00:29:00,480
like, maybe she's having some because
one of the other real these shows

415
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,920
that I watched, one of the
women has postpartum OCD, so her intrusive

416
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:10,119
thoughts become really, really, really
major, And that was the only thing

417
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,839
that I think of, like maybe
she's got like a tinge of that going

418
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,559
on, where like if I go
up there and if I fall off,

419
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,799
then I'm going to die or like
just go straight to the worst case scenario.

420
00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:22,880
But at the same time, like
you have just watched six other people,

421
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,400
seven other people, your your husband
is one of them, do this

422
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,680
and no one has gotten hurt.
Yeah, I feel like Cam is not

423
00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:36,640
quite as good as Cam presents herself
to be, and as she's not quite

424
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,119
as good as everyone kind of gives
her credit for being. Oh, totally.

425
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,000
And I you know, I'm not
sure if we've seen her dq I

426
00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:48,240
can't recall another time, but like, I'm not too surprised, Like I

427
00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:51,279
don't know, I don't think she's
as big of a badass as she as

428
00:29:51,319 --> 00:29:55,720
everybody acts, you know, I
get I've always said her early eliminations.

429
00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:59,920
I think good majority of them have
asked just to them, like you've had

430
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,160
there against you know, like mercenaries
who have you know, sat on podcasts

431
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,039
coming in like we were all there, just there for a paycheck and drinking.

432
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:10,279
We weren't trying to win. Whe
there was the other one she is

433
00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:17,519
facing. She's facing one person and
like absolutely destroyed, is a hanging upside

434
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:19,680
down again, absolutely destroyed, And
then they got stuck and then she just

435
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:26,240
won by default. Oh I don't
remember that one. Yeah, I agree

436
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,880
with you. I feel like quite
a few of her elimination wins have asteriks

437
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,640
next to them. But it's also
the like she is better in eliminations than

438
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,720
she has ever been in challenges.
But it just I think I was more

439
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:44,759
surprised that she deqeued purely because she
just straight up didn't even try. And

440
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,319
for someone who talks such a big
game and who acts like such a badass,

441
00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:52,160
and who calls herself kill a cam
and like the bathtub scene from a

442
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:57,200
few seasons ago and all of these
things, Like for someone who presents herself

443
00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:03,079
is so big and bad and talk
some major shit to everyone else, to

444
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:08,960
not even try was surprising. Yeah, I agree. This is the ship

445
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:11,799
that drives me nuts. When everybody's
like, oh, Car is not that

446
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,480
good, Like I'm I'm better than
she is, blah blah blah, and

447
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:19,200
then like shit like this happens,
people are just like, oh my god,

448
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:23,680
I can't jump, like even ignore
Cam, Like fucking Flora is the

449
00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:26,799
same way this one. Yeah,
she's just like freaking out the whole time.

450
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:30,200
It's like this, this right here
is why Kara is better than all

451
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,960
of you, because she got up
there and did this and was like,

452
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,519
sweet, let's fucking go. Same
with the elimination. She got into the

453
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:40,480
elimination at one point in time,
so talks about how this is where my

454
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:45,640
crossbit comes into into uh, into
play, because like, I'm not even

455
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,599
winded by what we're doing. I
could keep going like it's she's better than

456
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,480
all of you for a reason.
Yeah. Yeah, that's the whole point

457
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:56,359
of the show, right, is
the proof who's the best? So you

458
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,559
go in there and you say you're
better than everybody else, like that's that's

459
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:04,680
the point. Prove her wrong then, like prove her wrong. The other

460
00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:08,680
good part of Heat one is it
did go to confessional with car Mario where

461
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:14,680
she was all decked out like a
pirate and she said, serious, how

462
00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:17,920
much did you love that? Tim? I love car Maria this season so

463
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:22,640
much. I feel like this is
the old car where she smiles a lot

464
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,400
and she's fun and she tells jokes
and big fan. I agree. And

465
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:34,880
yes, the pirate, the pirate
thing kind of into that Heat too.

466
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:37,160
Never thought I'd be into pirates,
but you know, we can't predict the

467
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:42,400
future. Heat Too is Laurel,
Derek, Avery and Adam and Nicole and

468
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:45,920
Jay. I don't know. I
have almost nothing happening from this heat.

469
00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:50,599
Frankly, yeah, I mean really, the only thing that happened between the

470
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,960
two well, in the first heat, Nicole is talking about how everybody's fucking

471
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:58,000
awful of the game. You just
see a bunch of people falling off every

472
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,759
time not grabbing the ball, and
then Nicole fails miserably and doesn't grab the

473
00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:06,920
ball multile times in a row and
then didn't. Her confessionals tries to play

474
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,839
it off that she was kind of
like throwing it so that Laurel would win,

475
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,160
And I think that's some bullshit.
Oh hot take. Okay, you

476
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,759
actually you don't. You don't think
she was throwing it. I don't think

477
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:21,240
she's smart enough to throw it,
Okay, Zachie Woolfee, you have any

478
00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:23,720
theories about this? I don't know. I was. That's what I was

479
00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:29,279
going to ask, is what everybody
thinks about maybe her throwing it? I

480
00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:30,839
did. I was watching it at
work, so it was kind of passively

481
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,480
watching it. But yeah, I
like that. I was. I was

482
00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:37,880
kind of like, oh shit,
like, is that what she's doing?

483
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,400
Was it obvious she was throwing it? So Carlin's saying, no, I

484
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,519
don't, I don't I truly don't
think that Nicole is smart enough to throw

485
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:49,519
it unless Laurel told her to,
which I don't think she would. But

486
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:52,240
I just don't think that Nicole is
smart enough to do it. And I

487
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:58,000
think that this was something that like
they, I don't know it. I

488
00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:00,640
don't think she's smart enough to throw
it. Yeah, and I watched the

489
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,759
challenge part of it last night and
I was drifting in an out sleep,

490
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:09,599
so I totally missed the whole throwing
it aspect. Yeah, I actually do

491
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,599
think I don't know if she's smart
enough. But I do kind of wonder

492
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:15,679
if Laurel put the bug in her
ear and just say, like, hey,

493
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,800
it would be better for me if
you were to throw it, and

494
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:22,679
you've already got your star, so
just throw it. I bet Nicole would

495
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:28,480
have done it. Who knows.
But Laurel, talking before this challenge,

496
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,000
says that she has to win it
because she really wants her star. She

497
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:35,440
says at this point, anyway,
she says, it is essentially do or

498
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:40,000
die. She's got to get her
star. Agreed, Laurel. Agreed,

499
00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:45,760
Laurel, you dip shit fucking chicken. Long story short, Laurel and Derek

500
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:52,760
one listening. Laurel and Derek are
the winners this time around. The losers

501
00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:58,119
are Leroy, Ryan and Steve at
Ace. But the women are their losers

502
00:34:58,159 --> 00:35:02,599
that matter this week and that cam
Veronica, Flora and Kara. So two

503
00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:07,800
of those four are going in the
middle group. The ones deciding this time

504
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:14,719
around our Adam and Avery and Jay
and Nicole. Laurel's celebrating. She says

505
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,880
she's in complete power. Guys,
she has complete power over what's happening.

506
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,599
No, you don't. How much
did we want to barf? When Nicole

507
00:35:23,679 --> 00:35:28,639
went up to Laurel and said,
well, it's back to business after pleasure

508
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:38,159
all over my work computer. Yeah, you had some wretches Else, Laurel

509
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,719
tells Nicole that she is ready to
go in. She says she needs car

510
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,960
to be voted in and that it
is quote me and her one hundred and

511
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:54,280
fifty percent. Actually, I have
a little video or audio clip of Laurel.

512
00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:58,280
Do you have that queuede up and
ready to go? Wol fee?

513
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,039
Which one is it? Uh?
It's something an ego eating an ego?

514
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:09,760
Yeah, plan, of course I'd
rather go against I beat her before in

515
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:15,400
many things, in many eliminations.
Also, I want to eat her ego

516
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:20,360
kind of quiet, but uh,
such a weird, a weird thing for

517
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,519
her to say, Yeah, eating
her ego is weird. But also you

518
00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:25,079
could just see her getting hyped as
she's talking about, Yeah, I'm gonna

519
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:28,159
beat her. Of course, I
am a beater all the time. I'm

520
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:31,639
gonna beat her, beat the shit
o her. Uh love that. We'll

521
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:37,840
play that again later Ace has picked
up this plan though. Ace, using

522
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,599
his years as a bartender, says
he's good at listening to people and reading

523
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:45,000
them, and he sees this plan
happening before his eyes. He goes and

524
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:50,079
tells Kara all about it. What
do you think about Ace's secret? Sixth

525
00:36:50,159 --> 00:36:52,119
sense here, I don't feel like
it's that big of a secret. I

526
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:55,239
mean, not to take sense.
I don't feel like the plan is that

527
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,960
big of a secret. Like I
feel like I don't know. I feel

528
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:02,320
like it was just it was obvious, like Laurel wants to go in,

529
00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:07,119
Laurel won, Laurel wants Carra down, like I don't know it just yeah,

530
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:12,719
yeah. But this is when Kara, and this is when I really

531
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,760
like Carra's attitude. She says,
like, oh but Cam and Laurel like,

532
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,360
I don't want to go against those
two, and Ace is like,

533
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,920
well, you're gonna have to go
against somebody, And Carl's like, oh,

534
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:22,800
well, yeah, you're right.
I should just okay, I'm gonna

535
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,599
go against one of those two.
It'll be fine, which I think is

536
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:30,400
like that's the right approach, Like
it's the right attitude here. Mm hmm.

537
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,079
Carla's playing with the pragmantis. I
don't know, you guess I love

538
00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:38,880
that. Yeah, Pregnantis just jumped
on him. She's like, oh what's

539
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,719
up, Bud. She gave no
shit, I just go how's it going?

540
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,159
Just as they're talking to the bug. Well, for you, you

541
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,760
notoriously hate spiders, right, I
like pregmants. You're okay with pragmantis?

542
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,480
Would you hold one in your hand
like that and not be bothered by that?

543
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:53,960
I have multiple times? Yeah,
I have it. I have at

544
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:59,880
your house. I do have I
do have a bush that brings some prankmanciss.

545
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:01,199
Yeah. I had one on the
chair and I picked it up and

546
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,039
just put it back in the bush. Yeah. Well, if there was

547
00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:08,000
a there was a podcast that was
I don't know if this was probably five

548
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:09,800
or six weeks ago. It may
have been longer than that. I think

549
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,599
it was last season. It was
just Tim and I. At one point

550
00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:15,920
in time, I had a spider
just come down, like right next to

551
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,440
the chair it was, and just
kind of did one of these like oh

552
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:22,719
spider, and like moved it off
put it up there, and Tim just

553
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:29,000
looks at me, because what'd you
just do? But yeah, well,

554
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,079
we don't like spiders. Yeah.
We went on on a on a few

555
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:36,800
minutes conversations about spiders and how you
don't like them. That sucker would have

556
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,519
been dead, smashed against the wall. Zach, you had a bugs.

557
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,880
Are you scared of bugs? Oh? Zach's no, I'm not that scared

558
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,639
of them. I'm I'm definitely as
people like, I'm just spiders. I

559
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:52,440
rehumed them if I can before I
kill them. Yeah, fuck that ship.

560
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,360
There's enough spiders in the world that
they could eat all of us if

561
00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,639
they wanted to, if they banded
together. So I made the same with

562
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:07,920
ants like don't care. Uh.
This is when we start seeing some very

563
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:13,519
first signs that Laura might be reconsidering. She and Cam are talking and Laurel

564
00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:15,679
says things like, oh, it's
just it's nerve wracking. To like go

565
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,280
down there and Cam, you were
voted in, so you didn't have a

566
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,320
choice. It was easier for you. So we're starting to see Laurrel kind

567
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,400
of headge her bets a little bit, but she does tell Cam, Hey,

568
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,119
you're gonna be nominated in, but
we'll we'll swap you out. I'm

569
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:31,199
gonna take Kara. Don't worry about
it. You will be taken out.

570
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:42,000
You'll be pulled out, and that
we're onto nominations. Bit uh, so

571
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,880
Cam and Kara. That seems to
be the default plan here. Out of

572
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,119
the four that are talking about it, the only one to kind of stand

573
00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:53,519
and oppose the potential plan is Jay, the logical one. Yeah. Well,

574
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:57,960
and Jay just points out to Nicole
that throwing in Kara means that there's

575
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,440
a fifty to fifty chance of Nicole
losing her star, and it looks like

576
00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:08,679
Nicole has never thought about this,
but eventually just says, I trust Laurel.

577
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,119
I think Laurel can take Kara.
So I'm gonna just go along with

578
00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:16,599
this plan and do it, and
Jay says, okay, dumb, Yeah,

579
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:22,039
Nicole is a moron. Yep,
if you're Nicole, what do you

580
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:27,440
do? Who are you rooting for
though at this nomination process, I mean

581
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,719
being that she's fucking Laurel. She's
always going to do what Laurel tells her

582
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,679
to do. She's not going to
have a brain of her own. If

583
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,199
she had a brain of her own, then I think Jay's choice was a

584
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:43,000
better one. Yeah, I think
it's better to put in for Nicole and

585
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:47,599
probably Laurel. It's better to put
in Flora and uh Veronica. Yeah,

586
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:53,079
because you're basically guaranteed to win regardless
of who you're regardless of which one you

587
00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:59,239
go against. Yep, and you're
either getting Veronica star or you're beating Flora

588
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:04,719
and either and stealing a star from
Cam like or stealing a star from Veronica.

589
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,599
Like either either way you're you're getting
a star. Everybody's happy they you

590
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:13,559
have. You've kept Kara out of
the bottom and out of the running for

591
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,280
getting a star, Like, Yeah, was a Duardo even brought up in

592
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:22,800
the chat room, like even if
they're gonna go this route, Like,

593
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,400
what does it matter if it's Cara
and Veronica they get voted in if there's

594
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,719
gonna take one of them out anyway, Yep, I even vote in Cam.

595
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,280
There's there's no like Shenanigans that like
Carl, oh, I feel safe,

596
00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:40,119
and then they're gonna blindsider. Like
the whole plan just seems dumb.

597
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:44,880
Yep, I think Cam was just
sort of Armsige, not Cam. Laurel

598
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:47,880
was blinded by her hatred of Kara
and sort of her She wanted to take

599
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,320
Car out again, and so she
formed this whole plan thinking it would be

600
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,360
a physical elimination, not realizing that
we don't have physical eliminations this season apparently

601
00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:00,639
right. Eduardo earlier in the chat
room also says he's a theory that most

602
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:05,039
people are on the cast go just
to party, not to win, as

603
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:07,199
opposed to Kara, who goes to
actually win, which is what's putting people

604
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:12,000
off. Yeah, they want to
stay there longer so that they can win.

605
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:15,840
I agree with that. I didn't
think about it that way. That

606
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,639
makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I think that's true too. All

607
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,639
Right, so Avery's walking back in. She puts the sign up that says

608
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:28,760
it's Carl, Marianne Cam, and
Kara immediately calls out. Laurel says,

609
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,920
Hey, I know it's going to
be me and you. I know you've

610
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,440
orchestrated this. I know it's it's
gonna go. It's fine. We get

611
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,519
some flashbacks to the two times Laurel
has beat Kara and eliminations, both of

612
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:44,039
those also with asterisks. Do you
guys agree with that? I mean,

613
00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:45,480
yeah, because one of them she
had a broken arm, and the other

614
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:50,199
one she broke her arm. The
other one she was just like it was

615
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,400
a ball's in and she's just you
know, yeah, But I think that's

616
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,760
the one where she broke her arm
in the ball. Oh no, she

617
00:42:53,880 --> 00:43:00,119
broke it in the she I feel
like she broke it in that ball's in.

618
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,920
And then the one where they were
climbing the wall, she had a

619
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:07,280
bro that same arm was broken.
I think it must have been a season

620
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:12,760
that they had a redemption house.
I don't remember, Zach, you remind

621
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,599
me, and I remember she had
a cast for one of them, and

622
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:19,800
I think it was the drywall climbing
one. I don't remember how she broke

623
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,400
her arm. Frankly, yeah,
I don't recall it there, but yes,

624
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,760
it was the one where they had
to punch their way through drywall.

625
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,960
So she had a cast. Yeah, because she lost the drywall one for

626
00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:36,159
this basically the same reason why Jordan
lost the drywall one because he one hand,

627
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,639
Ryan says, Car broke it in
balls in against Jessica, against Jessica,

628
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,480
and then Laurel Okay, there we
go. I knew it. I

629
00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:45,840
knew it was in balls in,
I just couldn't remember which one. Yeah,

630
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:52,679
uh well, there we go.
H okay and h blah blah blah

631
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:57,679
blah blah. Oh. Lee says
that he doesn't necessarily trust Laurel's word.

632
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,800
He thinks that Cam needs to have
a fallback play in and to kind of

633
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:07,719
be prepared to go in. Lee
sees the future apparently here, and with

634
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:19,440
that we're onto the elimination. Yes, Adam the insel wearing gold tights.

635
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,440
Nothing. Nobody has anything to say
about that. I didn't even notice that.

636
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,800
How could you not notice that?
Because I was watching while at work?

637
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:34,639
Oh okay, Well, this game
is called Caged in Carlon, how

638
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:39,360
do you play this game? Well, there are two trenches dug in the

639
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:44,559
middle of the arena that are filled
with water that have a cage with balls

640
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:47,960
in it over the top of the
trench that's only like two inches three inches

641
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,199
above the water, and in that
cage there are balls. In the cage

642
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,960
runs the entire length of the trench, So they have to jump into the

643
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,679
trench of water, go underneath the
cage, go all along it, and

644
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:05,679
move all of these balls down to
the beginning end that has a very small

645
00:45:06,039 --> 00:45:08,199
just bigger than the ball hole,
and get all of the balls out of

646
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,960
there and put them in a net
like then take them out and put them

647
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,119
in their little on a place off
to the side. And first one to

648
00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:22,559
do that wins. Yeah. So
TJ looks up at Laurel and says,

649
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:30,320
well, Laurel, you want to
get wet inappropriate, inappropriate teacher pussy chicken.

650
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,599
Laurel just sort of hems and haws. He sort of kicks at the

651
00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:40,000
ground a little bit. Eventually she
says, that's a commercial. Yeah.

652
00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:44,840
Uh. In one of her confessionals, she says, Hey, if it's

653
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,280
the car and camp thing, I'm
just gonna let them have it, just

654
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:51,079
let them battle it out. But
let's compare that. What did she say

655
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:57,599
before Wolfe, I don't know,
she wants yeah exactly. That was that

656
00:45:57,679 --> 00:46:00,719
was him queuing you up to play
that. I didn't realize that. In

657
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:06,920
many eliminations, it's very quiet.
I want I want to eat her ego.

658
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,159
Yeah, but she says she's just
gonna pass, just gonna not just

659
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,599
gonna not play, just gonna not
do it. I could. I was

660
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:21,159
so amazed that all the build up
to this made it made sense as to

661
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,480
why she as to her like chickening
the fuck out. But at the same

662
00:46:24,519 --> 00:46:30,199
time, it's like, Laurel,
are you kidding? Yeah? Are you

663
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:35,719
kidding? As she's sort of sitting
there not making a decision. Leroy is

664
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,000
the only one at least that we
see pipe up, and he says,

665
00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:40,119
this is the last girl's day,
Like for sure, this is the last

666
00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:45,960
one. Yeah, I'm not sure
if he's right, but it's like it's

667
00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:47,880
the way to think, right,
Like you should assume that that's true.

668
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,239
Yeah, And on top of that, like if it's if it's the thing

669
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:57,320
of like she's worried because they would
be too evenly matched, Like in all

670
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,360
reality, car is probably a better
physical competitor than Laurel is, So if

671
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,760
this were a physical elimination, I
don't think that Laurel would necessarily have the

672
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:12,639
edge. So it was surprising to
me that she chickened out for what seemed

673
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,079
like she didn't feel like she had
as much of an advantage in this game

674
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:20,639
as she would if it were a
physical elimination. That's exactly it. She

675
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,480
thought, She's always going to be
on this kind of similar you have always

676
00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:28,440
been on this similar playing ground with
Kara. You guys have always been very

677
00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:32,559
similar in your physical games. Yeah, I think she saw this as not

678
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,280
a sure win, and so she
didn't want to do it if she let

679
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,960
Kara beat her an elimination, like, she's gonna have to live with that,

680
00:47:40,199 --> 00:47:44,280
you know. I really think that's
what it came down to. Yeah,

681
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,639
it just surprised me because I don't
feel like any of them, except

682
00:47:47,679 --> 00:47:52,599
for maybe a puzzle, I don't
feel like anything is a sure win against

683
00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:55,840
Cara, Like even for Laurel,
I don't feel like any of it is

684
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,880
a sure win. And Cam,
who is an incredibly smart player most of

685
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,360
the time, still fucked up this
game. And this wasn't even necessarily a

686
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,960
puzzle. She still fucked up this
game by not going and getting not doing

687
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,320
the same thing that Kara did and
getting all of the balls. She didn't

688
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,920
think to let go all the way
to the end to get all of the

689
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,920
balls and bring them back to the
front at the very beginning, and forgot

690
00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:23,039
two of them, yep, yep. And Cam also drives me nuts because

691
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:28,199
as she's sort of is preparing to
go in and she's talking about how Laurel

692
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,599
didn't go in, she says she
feels like she's the only brave person here,

693
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,519
which is just sort of a bullshit
camp thing to say, you're the

694
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:38,760
only brave person here, but you're
bitching and moaning about the fact that someone

695
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,679
didn't come down here and take your
spot. Well, and she orchestrated her

696
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:50,119
elimination against Tina, Yeah, come
on, you know it's not it's not

697
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,960
the same against Tina and Kara,
and we're seeing why here, But yeah,

698
00:48:55,039 --> 00:48:59,920
you nailed that, Carlin. Cam
loses because she just didn't stay focused,

699
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,079
forgot a ball down at the end
when she should have grabbed it.

700
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:07,039
She didn't for whatever reason, and
that's why she lost. She was way

701
00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:09,119
ahead for a long time, Yeah
she was. I was real worried there

702
00:49:09,159 --> 00:49:13,880
for a minute, me too.
Cara, just like Boom, just knocks

703
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,320
it all out. Yep. Tons
of really good shots of cars, but

704
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:23,360
in and out of that mud pits, just Kara and Gerald glistening, dripping

705
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:28,840
with water. That woman looked fucking
hot, like a superhero Man the shoulders

706
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:34,400
that girl. Yeah, she's us. Ryan wants us to talk about Cam

707
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:37,719
calling out Laurel when she made the
decision, you know what. To be

708
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,639
honest, I don't like Cam all
that much, so it didn't strike me

709
00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:45,039
as a calling out. It felt
like a desperate plea for Cam to chant

710
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:50,440
try to change Laura's mind. I
agree, I disagree, do you I

711
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:52,639
disagree? I feel it's the same. It's just like, bitch, we

712
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:59,199
had a plan, yeah, and
you're completely ruining it, and she's just

713
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,360
like, yeah. I felt like
it was I feel like it was a

714
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,280
little bit of both. It did
seem kind of like a desperate plea,

715
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,519
but at the same time she was
Yeah, she was calling Laurel out for

716
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,320
a deal that they made. From
the looks of things, like twenty minutes

717
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:19,480
before they left for the elimination.
M M yeah, yep, Well that's

718
00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:22,119
pretty much it. Car wins.
Obviously she takes Cam Starr. That's kind

719
00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:27,039
of the force decision. She doesn't
have a choice there. As they leave,

720
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:29,840
Laurel just says, quote, as
long as I'm in this house,

721
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:37,679
there's gotta be some opportunity to get
a star. Really, really, this

722
00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:42,679
was it. I really really really
hope that they do what we really wanted

723
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,679
them to do a few years ago
with the Skulls, but they didn't do

724
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:50,159
it. Where if you don't have
a star at the beginning of the finale,

725
00:50:51,039 --> 00:50:54,440
bye bye. Yeah, there are
no extra chances, there's no special

726
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,320
like, hey, we're bringing another
star in. Like, I really really

727
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,719
hope that it's just all right,
cool, So all of the regular episodes

728
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,519
are done. The finale starts tomorrow. You people don't have your stars,

729
00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:10,719
you guys do to the people who
don't, Sayonara, see you next time.

730
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,840
I would be okay, your kids
shut the fuck up? Can you

731
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,039
hear that? Really? Yeah?
Yeah? Yeah, it's a lot.

732
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,000
What are we doing, I don't
know, watch a TV or something.

733
00:51:23,039 --> 00:51:29,599
I would be okay with one more
round. So, like what you said,

734
00:51:29,679 --> 00:51:30,880
Colin, right, like, you
have your stars, you're safe.

735
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:36,199
Go over there and that everybody else. We're gonna have a purge. We're

736
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:38,440
gonna have one more woman, one
more man that are allowed to have a

737
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:42,559
gold Star, and that's it.
I want it. I don't want another

738
00:51:42,639 --> 00:51:46,880
round because I want Laurel to be
fucked. So you're gonna make these women

739
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,559
compete in the in the last Men's
Day with no shot of making the final.

740
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,960
Yeah, absolute chance chance. They
said it from the beginning. You

741
00:51:57,039 --> 00:51:59,400
need to start to play this game, and if you don't have a star,

742
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,679
you don't get in the finale.
Like I would fucking love it if

743
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:07,440
she has to just eat Crow and
doesn't get into the finale. I would

744
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,039
too. I mean, I think
that would be the best. I don't

745
00:52:09,039 --> 00:52:13,679
think that's what's gonna happen, though. Realistically, what do you guys think

746
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,280
is gonna happen? Is is are
the women done? Is this it?

747
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:20,760
No? I absolutely think there's gonna
be some sort I agree with you.

748
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,440
I think there's gonna be some sort
of purge because MTV is never gonna pull

749
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,159
that ship that we want them to
bowl where they just tell them okay,

750
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,679
cool, peace out bye. Like
they didn't do it the last time,

751
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,280
they're not going to do it this
time. Ryan says. I think they

752
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,199
do one Men's Day and then like
a double elimination. I could see that,

753
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:44,199
Okay, I would really love a
purge. That'd be great. I

754
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:45,920
haven't even kipped track. Are we
are we evened up now on men and

755
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:52,559
Women? No? I believe we
have ten men a woman. Okay,

756
00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:55,719
so we need one more dudes and
then like a double elimination in the final

757
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:02,719
something like that, I believe.
So okay, well that's it. I

758
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:09,079
do hope Laura cannot get a star. Yeah, fingers crossed fun. I

759
00:53:09,199 --> 00:53:13,159
also hate it. As of right
now, Nicole has a star for the

760
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,039
final. Yeah, it means so
we have to continue to keep her there.

761
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,400
Okay, there's seven men, six
women. I just looked, so

762
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:30,920
we're thirteen seven men, six women. Hey, everybody head over to challenge

763
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,039
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764
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:37,840
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765
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:38,880
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766
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,360
Well can you play the jingle it? It includes our Patreon benefits as well.

767
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:52,599
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768
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769
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,239
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770
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:07,519
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771
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772
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:22,480
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773
00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:37,239
sky send them more then by and
Batty Carol line two minutes. That's the

774
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:44,000
part that matters theem We're done seven
all right, Hey, that might have

775
00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:46,360
been a fail experiment, but you
know, give it a shot. That

776
00:54:46,519 --> 00:54:50,519
was much longer than expected. Yeah, and Edwaters in the chat. Sorry,

777
00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:55,639
ed Water doesn't have to pronounce you
name ed Ward. I think Eduardo.

778
00:54:59,639 --> 00:55:00,440
All right, I won't bring that
back next week, guys, Next

779
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:05,119
week I'll be back to the regular
thing. Hey, yeah, gotta try

780
00:55:05,119 --> 00:55:15,639
it right, I'm not I'm just
saying Jesus christ Yeah, well, hold

781
00:55:15,679 --> 00:55:21,199
on, hold on. Do we
have any reviews? No, nobody's leaving

782
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,480
us reviews. We need those leave
us reviews. Do we have any feedback?

783
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:30,480
We may have something on Spotify,
It is not from our number one.

784
00:55:32,159 --> 00:55:42,920
Damn. She enjoyed her shout outs. You know she hate listened to

785
00:55:43,039 --> 00:55:50,760
the whole time. Uh. On
last week's episode, Denise said, you

786
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,360
guys are hilarious, and I agree
with most of what you're saying. I

787
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:58,840
thought the Kingston thing was cute.
I think they edit what they want us

788
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,039
to see. They like Kara being
the face of the show, and then

789
00:56:02,159 --> 00:56:09,639
she made a throwing up amochi.
Oh we love Kara. Yeah, I'm

790
00:56:09,679 --> 00:56:14,960
really happy that, Like, I'm
really happy that Carr came back. I'm

791
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:19,639
really happy that it's not the Cara
who left. Same. I'm so glad

792
00:56:19,639 --> 00:56:25,960
to see this car back. Yeah. Okay, So Fantasy League, congratulations

793
00:56:27,039 --> 00:56:31,000
whatever. So you are still in
first place first place with nine hundred and

794
00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:37,000
ninety eight points. Second place is
CT for the win. It's a new

795
00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:43,079
second placer, that's Katrina Kay and
third place is what's eight times nine?

796
00:56:44,199 --> 00:56:50,760
Mister Christopher d. Zachie Bananas is
in fifth with eight seventy nine. I've

797
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,519
moved back up to seventh with eight
fifty six. Tim is in eighth with

798
00:56:54,760 --> 00:57:04,079
eight hundred and twenty nine. Yeah, Wolfy is is twenty third, oh

799
00:57:04,199 --> 00:57:08,960
and only beating Cindy by one one
spot. Cindy is in twenty fourth place

800
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,679
place with six or six. Cindy, who has never watched the show.

801
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:19,559
Sindy including is not watching this season
and didn't put in point didn't put in

802
00:57:19,679 --> 00:57:27,960
picks for week six. Oh so, and this week in the host League,

803
00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:32,559
Wolfy is now down to two players
because Cam has gone home. Yes,

804
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:38,079
it might be. The might be
complete wipe out of Wolfe. We

805
00:57:38,119 --> 00:57:43,079
talked about last week, you guys, that wouldn't happen. I still got

806
00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:45,280
car and Ryan. Last week he
was like, hey, I got Carra

807
00:57:45,639 --> 00:57:51,320
and Cam, Like, I'm good. Now Cam's gone Carl. Well,

808
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:52,679
yeah, that was the thing.
The last week we were definitely you mentioned

809
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,559
you asked if we thought that Wolfy
was gonna get wiped off the map too.

810
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:01,519
I was completely convinced last week that
Kara Cam, We're absolutely making it

811
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:05,800
to the final. So the fact
that Cam went home this week is kind

812
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,159
of like, all right, yeah, so you just have the two of

813
00:58:09,199 --> 00:58:14,719
those. Zach still has his entire
team. Yeah, I still have five

814
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,840
players. I'm still willing to Flora
though. I'm willing to take that hit.

815
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,239
I will say next year we have
to do something. We got to

816
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,280
do. We have to shake it
up to not you know what I mean,

817
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,239
Like, well, they have they
have one where you can you can

818
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:35,480
draft other players throughout the season.
So I'll look into the into the game

819
00:58:35,559 --> 00:58:37,679
play a little bit more and see
which one we could do that, Like

820
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,719
you could switch things up just a
little bit, maybe do something where we

821
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:45,239
do like trades and yeah, I
don't know, we have to do ridiculous

822
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,840
things in order to trade players with
someone else. Yeah, I think we

823
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,360
could make it into a fun game. That's what I like, because I

824
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,239
like the strategy of picking new players
every week based on stuff. It feels

825
00:58:55,239 --> 00:58:59,320
like the host league is like so
random. We just picked players three months

826
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,559
ago and then you know what I
mean. I feel like Tim is just

827
00:59:01,679 --> 00:59:07,079
salty because he's I really do,
because I can't do anything now, Like,

828
00:59:07,159 --> 00:59:09,119
what the fuck for half the game, I'm just gonna sit here and

829
00:59:09,239 --> 00:59:15,280
watch this bullshit. No way,
I will say, like I've been doing

830
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:21,840
this, motherfucker and brand I've been
doing this shafted style for like a decade

831
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,400
now, and usually it is a
lot more competitive. It's crazy that between

832
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:30,599
Wolfy and Tim we had like what
ten people go out in the first twelve

833
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:38,880
Yeah, it's still it's crazy that
just Tim had his entire team go out

834
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:47,559
before we season. Yeah. Yeah
two of my players quit. Yeah you

835
00:59:47,639 --> 00:59:51,800
wed like you were down like three
players within the first two episodes. Yeah,

836
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,559
bullshit. So normally this is much
more competitive. But yes, like

837
00:59:54,679 --> 01:00:00,000
this has been really the Carlin and
Zach Show this season. Yeah, see

838
01:00:00,039 --> 01:00:05,519
if they would have put Cyrus on
the actual cast list. Tim could have

839
01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:08,679
just had like a oh I get
Cyrus because he replaces Tony. Oh yeah.

840
01:00:08,719 --> 01:00:14,960
It then been sad at the end
of that one more week out of

841
01:00:15,039 --> 01:00:16,679
it though, one more week.
That's like I said, I thought about

842
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,559
like asking you guys, do we
just give him Jazzmine because he had Twitters?

843
01:00:20,599 --> 01:00:23,639
But then yeah, you went home. I was just matter what.

844
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:28,039
Yeah, no, I'll look into
I'll look into the game play and see

845
01:00:28,039 --> 01:00:30,360
if there's a better way of not
a better way, but another way that

846
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,199
would make this a little bit more
fun, a little bit more competitive,

847
01:00:34,519 --> 01:00:37,920
all right, But I do I
do think that we keep the Public League.

848
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,480
We do the Public League and all
we'll have to switch up the numbers

849
01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:45,039
and whatnot next season. I've enjoyed
the Public League. The Public League is

850
01:00:45,079 --> 01:00:49,280
fun and we've got a There are
a ton of people on the Public League

851
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,480
who are chatting every week in the
chat function on hire. Yeah, it's

852
01:00:52,519 --> 01:00:55,360
cool. Like every time I log
in there's another like five or six people

853
01:00:57,199 --> 01:01:01,320
you were saying things. It's it's
it's really entertaining, Zach. How's a

854
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:06,960
look on your end? On my
end? As per usual, Tim still

855
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:13,760
at twenty three, not going anywhere. Wolfy now thirty eight, so Carlin

856
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,039
and I've still top ten. Unfortunately
for Carlin, I do have both Adam

857
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:21,840
and Derek who won I mean moral
and Derek who won the challenge this week.

858
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:28,519
So I'm now up at eighty.
Carlin is at sixty five. Rigged,

859
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,239
rigged, rig not my fault.
I picked good players. You guys

860
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,679
were like crapping on me for taking
Derek. I'm like telling you guys,

861
01:01:35,719 --> 01:01:38,639
like, no, tust me.
He's gonna be good. Derek's been crushing

862
01:01:38,679 --> 01:01:43,559
it this season. According to the
online version of the Host League, which

863
01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:47,360
includes all the drama and romance and
all that sort of thing, Big Uncle

864
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:54,119
Sweet Tea is where he is.
Wolf is in third with ninety seven,

865
01:01:54,639 --> 01:02:00,480
Zachi Bananaz is in second with one
ninety nine, and I am in first

866
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:05,199
with twelve hundred and ninety eight.
Twelve ninety and what what's my score?

867
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,800
Your score is five to seventeen and
I'm done. You're over twice and I

868
01:02:10,159 --> 01:02:15,440
good. Yeah, yeah. Leroy
has the most points on my team.

869
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,920
He's got three hundred and fifty six. Those romance points, man, I

870
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,280
didn't I also wasn't clear on the
scoring until earlier today. Yeah, the

871
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:28,719
romance points, Leroy, I think
I actually have. Oh no, Carra

872
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,840
has three hundred and seventy seven,
so Car's got the most, So cars

873
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,800
on Wolfe's team, She's got the
most points out of anyone in this game.

874
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:42,039
But Cam had three thirty six but
she's gone now so it doesn't matter

875
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:45,920
anymore. And LeRoy's got three fifty
six. They are the top three,

876
01:02:46,239 --> 01:02:53,320
top three players in this game because
Laurel is at three zho one where Nicole's

877
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:58,119
got to be up there because they're
romance stuff too. Nicole is at three

878
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,760
forty. Oh, Nicole's the three
forty so she up there too. Yeah.

879
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:07,800
Yeah, the romance really plays into
this season. Yeah, which is

880
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:12,880
interesting because this season I shouldn't say
it's interesting, but this season the romance

881
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,199
has really been high on the radar. There's been a lot of it this

882
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,719
season, and I feel like the
last two or three seasons of the Challenge

883
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,840
we haven't had almost any romance.
Like it was really romance heavy, lots

884
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:29,960
of like people screwing people and people
bed hopping and all that sort of thing

885
01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:34,320
for quite a few seasons, and
then it just fell off the map entirely

886
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,119
and it just turned into like real
weird drama between people that we don't care

887
01:03:37,159 --> 01:03:40,760
about. And now this season it's
back up to lots of romance, but

888
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:46,880
it's just lots of romance between two
couples. Yeah, that sums it up,

889
01:03:49,679 --> 01:03:52,760
is Zach. Do we have any
social media stuff? We have one

890
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,800
thing. Nothing too exciting going on. But did you guys know, I

891
01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:02,039
FESSI has a podcast. Really I
did not go side that I don't know,

892
01:04:03,199 --> 01:04:08,360
but uh, he's going off in
his podcast. Uh dis and on

893
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:14,440
our boy Corey hairlet Tim's boy Corey
about their mud wrestling where Corey beat him.

894
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:16,480
He's like, oh, yeah,
you know like Corey. You know,

895
01:04:16,639 --> 01:04:20,039
like Corey beat me in mud wrestling. He posted about like three times

896
01:04:20,639 --> 01:04:24,920
like it's the biggest thing he's ever
done on the show. If I would

897
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,079
beat Corey, like it's just another
day in my life, like nothing special,

898
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,000
And uh, Koy replied to his
podcast and said, I should post

899
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:41,159
about when I beat you during that
final. It's been a it's been a

900
01:04:41,199 --> 01:04:46,840
slow season for social media. Not
much going on. Yeah, I have

901
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,119
seen quite a few people post about
how they're not super thrilled on this season.

902
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:55,559
I can understanding. Yeah, I
can understand being not super thrilled with

903
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:01,199
all the drama being entirely focused around
the cole, Laurel and Kara, like

904
01:05:01,559 --> 01:05:09,320
that's literally all the drama, and
that the challenges and things have felt a

905
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,719
little neutered. But overall, I'm
I'm enjoying this season so much more than

906
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,280
I have than I did last season. Oh yes, because we have people

907
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,400
in this game that we actually care
about. Now. Yeah, it's not

908
01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:25,079
close. Now, this this season
is super enjoyable. I'm like looking forward

909
01:05:25,079 --> 01:05:31,360
to these episodes. It's no Survivor
forty six. I'll say that though I

910
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,599
finished it. Yeah, great season, Right, we'll talk about the after

911
01:05:34,639 --> 01:05:43,519
show. Carlin can suffer through it? Yes, all right? Well wait,

912
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,960
another social media news just to piss
off all the MAGA people. Trump

913
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:51,599
got convicted of it as a felon
today, So Joe Biden in November,

914
01:05:51,639 --> 01:05:55,960
everybody, see that's funny, say
that, Carlin, because right like ten

915
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,719
times where he said that I got
a text message rum an unknown number.

916
01:05:58,719 --> 01:06:01,280
I'm like, what's this and it
says from Trump? All hell, just

917
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:11,079
broke loose. I was convicted in
a rig trial click. It's great.

918
01:06:12,119 --> 01:06:16,840
Yeah, because Trump is leaving the
coorum. He's like, I gotta take

919
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:24,800
Zach gotta. I gotta make it
onto this under this Challenge podcast. Otherwise

920
01:06:25,719 --> 01:06:29,480
everything is screwed. They'll help me. It's crazy. It's crazy how billionaire

921
01:06:29,559 --> 01:06:34,639
is hitting you up for bailment,
right right? Oh, it makes me

922
01:06:34,719 --> 01:06:40,880
so happy. Uh hey, everybody
have a challenge pot dot com. Joined

923
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:44,599
the Facebook group. You can,
I'll start our patreon. Join the instagram

924
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:51,960
makes Carlin happy. Join the Instagram. I posted twice. Nice. Uh,

925
01:06:53,519 --> 01:06:57,800
I guess for this episode of Challenge, that has been Brian carl in

926
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:02,199
San Diego, Zachie banana Us and
as Carus said, Nicole and the colon,

927
01:07:02,239 --> 01:07:06,320
the colon, the col and the
cole. Oh, I hit the

928
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:18,639
rock button, don't geek nerdery.
That's just like a shot the Charie ch