WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.519 --> 00:00:26.519 Weird thing happened in the backyard. Weird weird, weird, Wow classic, 2 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:31.000 lets us lets a start, Yo, what's up? We had to bring 3 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:38.280 the energy today. We have um a surprise exciting guest, our producer Alex. 4 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:45.880 Everybody gave in my hand, whoa and I'm playing Alex today. Hey 5 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:50.880 everybody, Hey Alex, Hey Alexy. And we got the headphones on because 6 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:56.079 I am I'm not giving up control this easy. Yeah, you have to 7 00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:58.399 let it go, man, I'm that's that's what this is is. I'm 8 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:02.679 practice of letting go produce today. I know it feels so strange. I 9 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:04.680 mean it feels pretty strange for me too, to be honest, but we're 10 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:07.640 gonna get through it. I want to be in the chair. Well too 11 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:14.439 bad. It's not about you, it's about me. Oh god. So 12 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:17.359 man, Yeah, we we had just been talking about it for a while 13 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:19.840 and we were like, you know, how cool would it be to like 14 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:26.159 have Alex on the couch and sort of have like a an open conversation and 15 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:30.760 get some of Alex's perspectives on things. So I don't have any clue where 16 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:34.439 we're gonna go today. I just figured, you you know, have a 17 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:37.200 lot to get off your chest, and we'll go into whatever you want to 18 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:40.840 go into. Well, I have a question. If we want to start 19 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:42.040 off with a question, yeah, let's do it. It's a little bit 20 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:48.359 of a hardball question, so just go ahead and prepare yourself emotionally. My 21 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:57.560 question is, how did you get so hot twenty five years of I don't 22 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:02.799 know aging like wine, I don't know, man. My mom's pretty good 23 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:07.439 look in, my dad's pretty good look in. It's just kill that it 24 00:02:07.519 --> 00:02:10.800 works like that. But no, Nick, because you did that, I 25 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:14.840 want you to think of a hard question, like a real hard question, 26 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:16.719 and I want it before the end of the episode. I can. I 27 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:21.719 can definitely do that for sure. I had a couple pop into my head 28 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:24.919 immediately when he said, all Um, would you believe me if I told 29 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:28.439 you? This is the third time I was a guest on a podcast. 30 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:32.280 Wait what explain? Uh? Oh, I know what you're gonna Yeah. 31 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:38.520 Yeah, Alex Hunt shout out Alex sunt He does phishing videos and podcasts. 32 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:42.800 He invited me on his show twice. He's an ex co worker of Hours. 33 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:46.879 Yeah Away, yep. He has a fishing podcast. His podcast, 34 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:50.280 I think he tries to highlight people in the community. It's pretty Hunt for 35 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:53.000 Greatness or something Hunt for Greatness podcast. Yeah, he tries to um it's 36 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:57.280 like a local yeah thing, and then he does he fishes a lot, 37 00:02:57.319 --> 00:02:59.879 so he does the fishing. I didn't realize you were like a guest on 38 00:02:59.919 --> 00:03:01.919 there, though I know about the podcast, like he's a cool guy. 39 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:05.520 Yeah, I didn't realize you were on there. The first time I went 40 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:07.639 on and kind of talked to a lot of conspiracy stuff. That's why you 41 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:15.240 brought me on. Talked about conspiracy, talked about substances and my relationship with 42 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:19.560 them and why I was open about them at the time. My thoughts have 43 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:23.599 changed a lot. That was probably five years ago. So okay, we 44 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:27.960 were just meeting five years ago. Yeah, this it was probably right around 45 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:30.439 the time I met you, or right before I met We met in twenty 46 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:31.479 eighteen, I know. Yeah, so that's when I started working with you. 47 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:35.319 Yeah, and that lends itself to that story pretty well. Which if 48 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:37.800 you've been hanging out and you're an Omi and you've been hanging out with us 49 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:39.680 for a long time, you probably know that story. But I figured a 50 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:45.039 good time to go into it, super deep into it, So I worked 51 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:49.599 at a furniture store here in town, and we were hiring for salespeople. 52 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:53.319 And my job at the time was I was kind of all over the place. 53 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:57.319 I was doing a lot of it, some management stuff, a lot 54 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:01.719 of customer service stuff. But basically my main role when we would have new 55 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:08.520 people come come in get hired was basically setting up the iPad and and kind 56 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:12.560 of getting the equipment ready for for people coming in. You realize you were 57 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:16.439 basically like the shadow government for that company, like Alex. Seriously, dude, 58 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:23.040 Alex did like all the behind the scenes like stuff for the company. 59 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:26.920 There was There wasn't like one role. There wasn't one. It was very 60 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:30.040 It was very It was a very lean company. And what I mean is 61 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:32.600 like there was not a lot of We did a lot. We did a 62 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:36.199 lot of business. We did a lot of things with a very very small 63 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:43.040 staff, like everybody's family business. So yeah, you you would like you 64 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:47.079 you gained all the intel, and I learned all the intel because we were 65 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:50.040 cool. I knew all the like behind the scenes stuff. Yeah, you 66 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:53.639 know some of it, kept some of it right for sure. For sure. 67 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:58.319 I know my place, I know my place. Yeah, But like 68 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:00.560 you know, a lot of the stuff I kept close to the chest. 69 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:02.759 And yeah, I've been thinking a lot about that man lately, just with 70 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:06.800 because I don't work there anymore and my job now is vastly different, and 71 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:12.759 I just like I've just been reminiscing in that whole role. And it was 72 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:15.439 fun that we fun part of that. We just had fun every day just 73 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:17.560 hanging out, like you know, with because because I was in sales, 74 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:21.079 Alex was not. Alex was more like a salary you know, like he 75 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:25.920 had tasks to do for the company, and I'd be maybe there be some 76 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:29.240 days where I would talk to two or three clients on a slow day and 77 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:30.519 then the rest of the day, me and Alex are just chilling, dude. 78 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:35.199 One time, uh, one time we left and we would just like 79 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:39.480 go shopping at the sports store down the store. We would go have like 80 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:43.480 two three hour lunch breaks sometimes just sitting out, you know. A terrible 81 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:46.120 influence. Man, Oh, you can't talk about the trails, bro, 82 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:48.800 Yeah, yeah, sales. No, that was a great time. Yeah, 83 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:53.439 so we and we spent a lot of time talking about this after after 84 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:58.439 we met, and that that story is um, you actually had come prepared. 85 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:00.399 I remember this and it's so fitting now, like for the job you 86 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:03.959 and you showed up with your own iPad. I'm a hard worker, bro. 87 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:09.279 Yeah, first day you showed up with your own iPad. And that's 88 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:14.279 just so so strange because you see all types of people in retail salesen um. 89 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:16.800 So you said, you handed me the iPad and said, yo, 90 00:06:16.839 --> 00:06:20.199 man, will you put me on the on the Wi Fi? And that 91 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:24.600 was like a close guarded secret because I didn't give that stuff out because people 92 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:28.439 would just be sitting around watching YouTube videos and stuff like that. So I 93 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:30.600 go and I put you on the Wi Fi and I put you on the 94 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:32.360 Wi Fi and the first thing that happens was you get a Reddit notification. 95 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:35.959 Oh yeah, while I'm holding on iPad. Yeah. And so I handed 96 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:39.439 it back to him and I'm like, you know, I just try to 97 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:42.800 be friends with everybody that I work with. And I handed it back and 98 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:45.879 I said, yo, man, you Unreddit and you said yeah. And 99 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:46.959 I was like, well, what kind of subreddits are you into? And 100 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:49.800 you're like this, I kid you not. You said you like our trees? 101 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:53.000 No, no, no, I said, I said what are you 102 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:56.519 into? And You're like, oh no, the basic ones like that's the 103 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:58.920 answer you game. Yeah, And I was like, well that's cool. 104 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:03.519 I like trees and conspiracy and like full open up right, I'm like, 105 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:05.639 this is what I'm into. And he's like, oh yeah, cool cool, 106 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:09.240 and then we kind of just went our went our separate ways for the 107 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:12.279 day. I had to do video training for hours. Yeah, And then 108 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:15.680 it was a day or two later when it was time for me to issue 109 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:19.199 your your equipment, and I remember we went through all of that. You 110 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:27.120 picked it up like quick because you obviously right um, and you said, 111 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:30.959 yo, man, I forget how it started, but we ended up talking 112 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:36.800 about Alistair Crowley's face on the Beatles started album for the album. Yes, 113 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:41.160 that was the first thing, because you would you would remembered that I had 114 00:07:41.160 --> 00:07:44.560 talked about conspiracy, and so you open up this door with the conspiracy thing, 115 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:46.240 and we started talking about that because that blew my mind. And then 116 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:50.879 we started talking about Alister Crowley and led Zeppelin. I'm pretty sure it's pronounced 117 00:07:50.920 --> 00:08:00.040 alex Ter Crowley. Just back check you there. It's about you. So 118 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:03.319 uh yeah, and at the time super into conspiracies, and one thing led 119 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:07.040 to another and you probably remember this more than I do, but you started 120 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:11.439 telling me about your family and your in the experiences after feeling me out. 121 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:13.959 Yeah, I felt you out for like two three days, and I was 122 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:16.519 like, Okay, this guy's really cool, really open minded, like let's 123 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:22.040 see how he reacts. And I just like started showing him stuff about my 124 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.920 dad, and I just remember your eyes and at the time, you were 125 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:28.680 only like you could have been older than eighteen or nineteen. You were pretty 126 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:33.360 young. I was eighteen nineteen twenty somewhere. I could do the math, 127 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:35.320 and I was like, you know, we're five years apart, so I 128 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:37.960 was, you know, twenty four or twenty five. I think I was 129 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.080 twenty four. That was a little bit older. And I just remember like 130 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:46.399 this is a smart, older teenager fresh out of school, but like he's 131 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:48.720 really intelligent. And I was like, let me see how he reacts. 132 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:52.919 And I'm telling you this stuff, and I just remember your eyes were like 133 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:58.679 saucers, like you were so into it. Yeah. No, I remember 134 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:03.759 I remember being like not really like mind blown, but more like I've got 135 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:09.000 to know more. Yeah, that's so cool and never never like doubt, 136 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:13.879 not doubt and like you're full of shit, but like doubt and like I 137 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.559 need to find out more. Well, I started showing you the pictures of 138 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.200 like all you know, the CIA parties I've been to all this crazy. 139 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:24.639 Later on, so we end up at your apartment and within days we just 140 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:26.720 started working together. I'm like, come over to my house, let's hang 141 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:28.840 out. Yeah. So I got off work. Who does seven? I 142 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:33.039 got to work at seven, immediately went to your house and that first night, 143 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:37.399 I remember, man, we talked on the couch like this, exactly 144 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.440 like this until two three in the morning, and I'm like, dude, 145 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:43.879 I have to leave, like I gotta go back to work tomorrow, Like 146 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:48.320 I don't want to. We're having such a great time, but like this 147 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:54.840 hasn't gone on long enough, and we've yeah, yeah, yeah. We 148 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.080 did that a couple more times in the next in the next two three weeks. 149 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:03.360 And um, it was shortly after meeting you and having those conversations where 150 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:05.000 I was like, man, you need to have a podcast for real. 151 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:09.879 We had barely known each other, like we it was weak. Yeah, 152 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:15.399 And what I didn't know is I didn't know Nick, and I didn't know 153 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:18.000 that Nick had been telling him something very similar, you need to start a 154 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:22.679 podcast. So I have known no clue who Nick was just talking to Ryan, 155 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:28.120 just talking about the conspiracies and the and the experiences and stuff and pushing 156 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:31.399 him to do a podcast. Fast forward years. It took you years to 157 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.519 kind of take that leap, and for good reason, and now we're here. 158 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:43.679 But what's so interesting is I've always, for as long as I can 159 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:48.159 remember, been into that conspiracy side of things. Yeah, and this alternative 160 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:50.840 thinking, questioning what we're supposed to believe is true, right, Yeah, 161 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:58.039 And in my opinion, every person has the initiator, like the initiator in 162 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:01.679 their life. Like you don't wake up one day and like I'm going to 163 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:05.320 study conspiracy theories. Yeah, it's something. It's either a piece of media 164 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:09.120 or someone in your life that that kind of turns that on or turns you 165 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:13.440 onto that that thing. And for there was somebody for me, and I'll 166 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:16.399 keep this person anonymous and they know exactly who they are. But I was 167 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:20.000 young man. This was prior to two thousand and twelve, because the first 168 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:24.320 thing that we started talking about was the Mayan calendar and the world ending in 169 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:28.159 twenty twelve, and this had to be in two thousand and ten, two 170 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:33.000 thousand and eleven, which would have made me thirteen twelve, thirteen years old, 171 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:35.000 hour twelve. Yeah, so I'm freaking out thinking the world's gonna end. 172 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:39.559 Oh yeah, they all were yeah, yeah, yeah, um and 173 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:43.039 then it started to have already. Baby. I smite that night, yo, 174 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:50.080 real quick. I vividly remember the day that Ryan told me about that, 175 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:52.559 and you were we were in school. We were in school that when 176 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:56.480 you told me about like the Mayan calendar and all the you know, two 177 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:00.320 thousand and twelve stuff, and I'll never forget you text it. We were 178 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:03.000 texting when you were telling me about it, and I left the class. 179 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:09.799 I was in like in complete existential dread. Dude, I kid you not. 180 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:13.200 I had like a movie scene where I was looking at all the kids 181 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:16.639 and everybody in the hallways between classes, and I swear I had that moment 182 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:22.519 where I was like, these poor fools because they don't even know. It's 183 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:24.200 like that meme when you it's over in the corner at the party, like 184 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:31.440 they don't know the world's gonna end in twenty twelve. Get them enjoying themselves. 185 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:37.639 Ye, so I kind of I started saying all that too, I 186 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:39.519 guess bring us to the point where we met, and I remember being a 187 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:46.080 young kid and lying in bed basically praying. Because I grew up Catholic. 188 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:50.840 I don't think that's if you've been falling along, you know that went to 189 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:54.720 Catholic schools. So I ended up in Mass twice a week, naught a 190 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:58.840 little altar boy. I was never an altar boy. You had you had 191 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:01.480 to train to do that, you had to go, you had to like 192 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:03.879 spend time out of school to learn how to do that. And I just 193 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:07.360 never my mom wanted me to. I'm like, I don't know. Yeah, 194 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:13.200 so, but I did speak at ours, Yeah, our school Mass. 195 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:16.639 I've spoken a couple of times, having to go up there and open 196 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.120 the gospel, and I was so nervous. I mean, naturally, I'm 197 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:24.639 a child. Yeah. So I remember laying in bed as a child and 198 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:31.879 wanting God to just show me the truth, Like as I'm getting into these 199 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:35.080 conspiracies and they're eating me alive by night and I would have to go do 200 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:39.159 my normal day to day stuff. I remember laying there and being like, 201 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:41.879 I just want to know the truth. There was a point in my time 202 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:45.440 where at point my time, a point in my life where I thought the 203 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:50.039 highest honor was to get assassinated by the government. I remember, Yeah, 204 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:54.919 we were friends at that time. Yeah, super into the conspiracies, man. 205 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:56.639 Yeah, like, if you're banned, you're doing something right. And 206 00:13:56.679 --> 00:14:01.080 like I get the logic, you know, I get it. So when 207 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:03.840 we started doing this behind the scenes, I'm like, all right, what's 208 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:05.559 our plan if we get kicked off of YouTube? And it's still like I 209 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:09.360 still think about I don't think it's going to happen for for a while at 210 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:15.919 least, it's always in the back of my head. I honestly, I 211 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.080 definitely think we're shadow band. Yeah in some way. I mean, dude, 212 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:20.679 but sorry to cut you off, but like my dad shows me all 213 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:22.759 the time. I mean every time I go home, he shows me this. 214 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:28.480 Like he for for a very long time, he was stuck at ten 215 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:33.159 thousand followers, and in a week he would gain like one hundred followers. 216 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:37.039 Sometimes a day he'll gain thirty forty fifty followers, and then he'll lose just 217 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:41.240 as many. And he was constantly like ten thousand, tene ten, ten 218 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:43.480 thousand, one hundred. He was he was stuck at ten thousand, what 219 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.480 felt like or nine thousand. He couldn't quite get to ten thousand. And 220 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:50.360 it's like, come on, man, like there's something's weird going on, 221 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:54.159 and no, I still believe that stuff. But shadow banding is a real 222 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:58.519 thing. Yeah yeah, no, for for certain um so getting eaten alive 223 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:05.120 by the conspiracy theories because they started to lead into I started getting more interested 224 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:09.080 in political stuff and not you know, moon landing aliens, that kind of 225 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:13.279 thing, and so it was like the government's evil kind of Yes, yeah, 226 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:16.000 I got and I like, I still have some of these feelings, 227 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:20.799 but I'm getting somewhere, I promise I remember, I'm just righting a wave 228 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:28.279 baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a surfer. So having known 229 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:35.720 your story and knowing you so personally and then dealing with all of this conspiracy 230 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:41.200 political stuff and falling into, you know, really starting to fall into one 231 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:46.000 particular theory about some bachelor who lives on an island and does what he pleases. 232 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:48.440 I'm not gonna get what everybody knows I'm talking about. Yeah, the 233 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:52.759 guy that was arrested very publicly. It gets very dart a name for banning 234 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:58.120 purpose what I'm saying, Yes, okay, okay, it gets very dark, 235 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:02.960 and I'm like, I believe that the height of all that news was 236 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:06.240 when we were just really becoming friends. So it was a very present, 237 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:07.759 you know, it was just all going on. Yeah, thank you for 238 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:11.600 like clearing the timeline up a little bit. I know, I'm jumping all 239 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:17.440 over the place. I believe that right, and I believe in that darkness, 240 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:22.799 and I remember having the revelation to myself that if the dark exists, 241 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:26.559 and I believe so heavily that the dark does exist, the opposite of that 242 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:32.039 has to be true because it's seven one of the seven hermetic principles, Like 243 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:34.519 the light has to be just as real and just as prevalent. It's like, 244 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:38.919 it's not just one side that exists. And that that was the beginning 245 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:47.399 of the end of my real heavy political conspiracy thinking and gloom and the process 246 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:51.200 for me to leave all of that behind and really start focusing on the things 247 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:53.639 that we focus on on the show, which leads, you know, everything 248 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:57.360 into the show and how the show has helped me and just like, like, 249 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:04.759 and I'm not saying you shouldn't have your own thoughts and stand up for 250 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:08.640 what you think is right. I just think that you have to really protect 251 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:14.839 you yourself, your your mindset, your inner self, and your energy in 252 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:22.960 order to like actually start progressing down this spiritual you know, you can't focus 253 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:25.599 on the negative stuff all the time, right you can't. Yeah it's not 254 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:27.440 good. You're not gonna go anywhere. Yeah. Yeah, So now we're 255 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:30.920 here, and uh, I don't know what else you want to talking about. 256 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:33.720 Yeah, Wow, that was really cool. You know, like it 257 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:38.039 wasn't particularly awesome because you know, as I've talked about many times on the 258 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:41.960 show, and like especially now in full disclosure, where I'm just going on, 259 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:45.200 you know, all these solo rants, giving a little bit more insight 260 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:48.400 into like my background and how I've come to reach certain conclusions. One thing 261 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:52.680 that I'm pretty open about is like I'm very guarded about, you know, 262 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:56.279 who I reveal this information to. You know, talking on camera to the 263 00:17:56.279 --> 00:18:00.759 internet to thousands of strangers that I don't know is a lot more comfortable, 264 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:04.559 and that's uncomfortable sometimes to believe me, But it's a lot more comfortable than 265 00:18:04.599 --> 00:18:07.880 like face to face to people I've known for let's say, coming on thirty 266 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:11.640 years now, and I've never had these weird conversations with them. And it's 267 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:15.119 like this altar life, you know, I have so many cousins and relatives 268 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.920 and aunts and uncles that I've never had a single conversation about any of this 269 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:22.799 stuff with. Yeah, And I just have this sense about people after knowing 270 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:26.920 them. In your case, it was within a matter of like two or 271 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:30.599 three days. But I have this sense about people now that I've developed through 272 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:36.640 so much heartbreak of being a kid and not thinking people would not believe it 273 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:37.519 just because they know us, And it's like, oh, you know, 274 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:41.119 we're close, They're gonna believe us. You know, when you tell people 275 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:45.680 about this this crazy UFO stuff, and then they're shocked, like get away, 276 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:47.880 I don't want to ever talk to you again, you know. And 277 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:49.519 I don't know. It's like when I met you and it was like a 278 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:52.640 sign for me that you were into conspiracies because that told me, Okay, 279 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:56.240 he thinks alternatively, he doesn't. He doesn't just accept what is presented to 280 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:00.680 him on a day to day basis. And I just will never forget. 281 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:04.319 Like when I told you about this stuff and seeing your face, it's burned 282 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:10.400 into my mind. Your eyes were wide, like like I can't describe it. 283 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:12.240 I could tell right then in there that you you you knew that it 284 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:15.440 was real. And I feel like it's crazy when you zoom out and think 285 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:21.079 about it. But our friendship progressed very quickly because we obviously it was meant 286 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:22.319 to be, you know, for us to all do this together. But 287 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:26.720 like, how how how often do you get a job or you're in sales 288 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:30.480 and it's like basically a joke and seven hours. I mean it was a 289 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:32.599 hard job, but like, don't get me wrong, you know this, 290 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:34.920 Like the sales part was hard, yeah, but you you know, it 291 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:40.680 was like ten hour shifts something like that, with you know, an hour 292 00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:44.920 lunch break. Right, it's when you're working, you're working, yeah, 293 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:47.920 and when you're not, you're not. But that was like maybe two three 294 00:19:47.960 --> 00:19:49.920 hours a day of talking to customers. The rest of the time is sitting 295 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:53.160 or it's very similar to restaurant too, exactly like when you're on, you're 296 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:57.359 on. So we had we worked together for fourteen months and it was day 297 00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:02.640 in and day out. We were literally just hanging out, watching videos, 298 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:06.319 walking or doing whatever we wanted, hanging outside out the back, just talking. 299 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:08.599 And it like it progressed very quick. I got a funny story about 300 00:20:08.680 --> 00:20:11.119 work. We'll go back to work, said Nick, You'll love this. 301 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:15.920 So I all like the whole time I worked there, I always had a 302 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:19.079 skateboard in my car. Yeah, always, and when it would get so 303 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:23.000 slow, I would like ride my skateboard. I've ridden my skateboard through the 304 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:29.640 store. I'm not going to go into another story about it, but we 305 00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:33.559 had a delivery truck dropping off and this is like a huge box truck and 306 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:34.680 I know, like all the guys, right, all the guys from the 307 00:20:34.680 --> 00:20:38.720 warehouse that came to bring some inventory. Then they needed to bring a piece 308 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:41.480 of furniture to the front of the store. So it was easier for them 309 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:45.119 to drive the truck around the store than it was to haul this heavy piece 310 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:48.680 of furniture to the front of the store from the back. So like we're 311 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:52.640 gonna pull around, I'm like cool, grab my skateboard, grab onto the 312 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:56.359 back of the truck, and I rode my skateboard holding onto the truck all 313 00:20:56.400 --> 00:21:00.240 the way around this shopping center up to the front. I'm like, oh 314 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:03.880 whatever, just having fun. Well, there was a grocery store next door, 315 00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:11.160 and the whoever the manager of the grocery store was, saw that yes, 316 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:18.599 yes, And the manager of the grocery store called the furniture store and 317 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:22.839 said, hey, you got some kid riding his skateboard on the back of 318 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:29.839 your delivery truck out here. That's the most remember Alex thing I've ever heard 319 00:21:29.880 --> 00:21:33.720 in my entire life. He started working there at like seventeen two, yeah, 320 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:38.720 damn, and until last year basically until I was yeah, twenty three 321 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:47.160 or four. Yeah. So I got inside and Danett answered the phone and 322 00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:52.160 she goes, were you riding your skateboard? And I was like, nah, 323 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:56.599 He's like, well, the manager just called from this grocery store and 324 00:21:56.680 --> 00:21:59.680 said you were. Like no, I said, somebody was, but like 325 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:03.480 they all knew it with me, you know, so she never told on 326 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:07.200 me. Man. We had some horror stories from that job. I don't 327 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:11.119 know, There's there's some stories that like just just the amount of fun we 328 00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:15.759 had and like just the goofing and I don't know, you know, from 329 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:18.680 what I was saying earlier, I just wanted to say, like, it's 330 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:22.119 very we're very blessed that we had that environment to where basically eight hours a 331 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:26.000 day we were hanging out as friends and then oh, Alex, I got 332 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:27.079 a customer, I gotta go work for twenty minutes, you know what I 333 00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:30.680 mean, Like it was insane. Well, don't act like I never did 334 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:33.640 anything either, No, you did. You were in the back room in 335 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:37.319 the office, and when my customers left, I was zip right to the 336 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:42.960 office. It was an automatopia. It was an action noise, I'm zipping 337 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:45.640 away, dude. I was right back there to his office, and I 338 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:48.240 would be sitting in his office and We're just hanging out for hours. And 339 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:52.160 it was crazy. But like I'm thankful for that because our friendship progressed very 340 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:55.599 very quickly, and I feel like it was meant to be. I feel 341 00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:56.839 like, you know, just the same with you, Like we were all 342 00:22:56.880 --> 00:23:03.079 brought together through various crazy encounters that you know, if if one other thing 343 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:04.680 happened, we could have never met, you know what I mean. And 344 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:11.440 like you, you you um, you took to the information very well, 345 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:15.960 and like I feel like that was another reason our friendship progressed so quickly, 346 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:18.160 because I didn't let anybody else there on the secret until after I quit, 347 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:22.359 and didn't I didn't talk about it with anyone as far as I knew. 348 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:25.920 I was just your typical furniture salesman and me and Alex will be sneaking off 349 00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:30.079 having these like deep chats. Yeah, all day. Yep, I have 350 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:34.640 a I have a quick question for Alex uh so was that Well, First 351 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:37.519 of all, I feel like we kind of glazed over the fact that you 352 00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:42.240 were low key his boss. He wasn't my boss, but he was in 353 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:48.319 a position above me to to dish out tasks and things like that. Like, 354 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:52.480 yeah, I wasn't. Ryan was not directly reporting to me, but 355 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:56.119 the person that Ryan reported to was on the same level as me, right, 356 00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:00.839 like different different apartment, but he was in a position to where, 357 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:04.759 like you know what he he had If I asked Ryan to do something, 358 00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:08.759 he would probably do it with like in that time he would And I didn't 359 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:12.720 complain about stuff. I don't think I ever asked you to do anything. 360 00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:17.240 No, I was. I was a really earnest worker. I mean, 361 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:19.119 come on, man, in my time there, I sold the most temper 362 00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:23.720 pedigs in my time there. People passed me later, but like, I'm 363 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:27.680 a hard worker, and like, if it's something that I see opportunity in, 364 00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:32.400 I go out of overtime. I started to kind of realize, like, 365 00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:34.559 Okay, I don't need to be sitting around doing trainings on my iPad 366 00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:37.799 all the time, and they're not customers. Here. But yeah, very 367 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:42.400 seriously. My question for you, Alex was was that the was Ryan the 368 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:52.839 first person that you spoke to that was an experiencer to the caliber. Yes. 369 00:24:56.599 --> 00:25:00.440 My one of my good friends, shout out Dylan. Him and his 370 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:03.599 father had a sighting when they were out hunting and he was very young. 371 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:07.039 Why he just told me it was like a campfire story and we never really 372 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:12.039 talked about it. Same orb orange like low above the tree line in wooded 373 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:15.720 North Carolina. WHOA, that's crazy, man. I think that's a lot 374 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:19.440 more common than people realize. You know, the day after the documentary aired 375 00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:22.319 in two thousand and eight, I've told a story a dozen times on the 376 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:26.119 podcast, but just you know, for sacred conversation, I'm talking two thousand 377 00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:30.359 and eight. The next day, I go to class and my art teacher 378 00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:34.640 holds me after class and she's like, can you stay behind just a minute. 379 00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:37.839 All the kids leave, it's just me and her in the room, 380 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:41.880 and she pulls out a newspaper clipping. It was like an article she found 381 00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:45.599 on the Fabelle Observer dot com and printed it out like it wasn't the newspaper, 382 00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:48.640 it was an online news clipping and it was of the documentary airing, 383 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:51.839 and she showed me this and she goes, this is your dad, right, 384 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:53.119 And I was like yeah, and she goes, I watched this, 385 00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:57.319 And I just think it was so brave of y'all to come forward and tell 386 00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:00.920 this story. And I believe you. And many many years ago, when 387 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:07.440 I was a little girl, I was with my aunt and we saw something 388 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:10.480 it was like what you described, and we never talked about it again. 389 00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:14.240 In North Carolina, you know, I think it's very common. Yeah, 390 00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:18.359 and people just don't talk about it. Damn. So follow up question, 391 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:22.119 Alex, when so you had the conversation with Ryan. You guys had I 392 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:25.599 mean a bunch of conversations, a bunch of them. Yeah, yeah, 393 00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:29.279 and you said that like at first you were like, you know, I 394 00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:30.599 don't. I don't really know, but I'm trying to piece it together. 395 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.240 Do you remember the moment when it like clicked for you, like, oh, 396 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:40.359 I think this is real. It was shortly after it was just me 397 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:45.000 with my guard up, being that conspiracy guy I'm like, and knowing him 398 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:48.559 for a couple of weeks, it's like, yeah, like I'm not dismissing 399 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.839 what he's saying. It's just like I'm not all in yet. I was. 400 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:55.000 I was the same way. Yeah, and then I think it was 401 00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:57.119 I think you started showing me pictures like when I came to your house, 402 00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:02.480 and it was like seeing the picture and then sitting with you and listening to 403 00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:04.119 the way that you talk. I mean, it's it is that it's really 404 00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:11.279 for me, the passion and conviction that you speak with that really there's no 405 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:14.359 doubt in my mind you and your father. But like you know, I 406 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:17.319 met you before I met him. Right, Well, that's what else I 407 00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:18.960 wanted to talk about. Oh, what meeting data for the first Yeah, 408 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.359 well follow up question for you, Nick? Oh yeah, are you having 409 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:25.839 fun? I am having a blast. Actually, yeah, this is cool. 410 00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:27.279 This Yeah, this is really weird. Like I didn't think it would 411 00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:30.480 feel that weird, but it's pretty awk. It does feel I mean, 412 00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.279 I'm happy, but yeah, I love my job. This feels weird, 413 00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:41.880 Like I just enjoy pretending that I'm you for me, it's the power and 414 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:47.480 the responsibility. Yeah, we know, like you guys have a hard job 415 00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:52.839 though sometimes Yeah, I mean, yet, I'm not excited to edit this 416 00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:55.200 because I don't like listen. I don't want need to edit it. No, 417 00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:57.680 no, I mean, like unless you I'm just kidding, unless I 418 00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:00.640 say some shit. No, No, I mean like I have to edit 419 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.640 it, like it has to go out. You know, I don't want 420 00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.240 to listen to myself talk now, you're gravy baby. I'm hoping my friends 421 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:11.160 that don't really talk to me about the podcast listen to this. But they 422 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:15.480 will. We'll force them too. Yeah, I'll strap into a chair and 423 00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:18.039 on or something. Oh, I would love to hear about when you first 424 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:22.440 met Chris. It was so let me cut in real quickly. So I 425 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:26.640 worked with him for fourteen months. So I started there August of twenty eighteen. 426 00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:30.519 I know that it was the week of my birthday. And I left 427 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:34.240 in um October of twenty nineteen. Remember it was the day after I proposed 428 00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:40.000 to my wife. Remember it was the day after I deposed. That's that's 429 00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:41.960 crazy. No, I don't remember. And um in this because I got 430 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:45.039 offered another gig that was offering a lot more money. And I was like, 431 00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:49.720 I remember, I remember, because you got you got like headhunted. 432 00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:56.279 You had a client come in work with you buying furniture and offered you a 433 00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.160 job pretty much yeah, like spot. I was like it took me weeks. 434 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.359 Happy for you, but I was really bummed that that that whole thing 435 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:04.839 was coming to an end. Yeah, for sure, but I mean our 436 00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:10.160 friendship never it never obviously windled. I mean, obviously we're here, dude. 437 00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:11.960 The next year we started the podcast. It was it was it was, 438 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.720 you know, we started the podcast or we started planning the podcast in 439 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:18.839 twenty twenty. I left the company at the end of twenty nineteen. The 440 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.359 day after I proposed, I had already been being scouted by this other guy 441 00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.799 in a different industry for two weeks. I was considering it. I proposed 442 00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:29.880 my wife and I was like, let's go major life change, let's plunge. 443 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.279 And I was very you know, up front with Alex about it. 444 00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:34.319 We stayed friends the whole time. Obviously we're still here. But anyway, 445 00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:38.160 so my point is, um, I was going somewhere with that. We 446 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:42.400 meeting your dad the timing. Yeah, So shortly after I left the company, 447 00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:47.839 um, and we we progressed our friendship outside of work, but like 448 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:51.079 hanging out, you know. And I was like, you know what, 449 00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:53.400 let's let's let's take a trip to Fayetteville. I want you to meet dad, 450 00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.640 and I think, you know, it'll be really cool and maybe we'll 451 00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.079 have some sightings real quick. This was after how long of knowing each other? 452 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.880 Oh, this was a year or so? This was after you left 453 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:08.160 left? Okay, gotcha? Yes? And um it was like we'd only 454 00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:11.880 known each other about two years at this point. And I don't think you 455 00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:14.960 had a signing that night. I didn't, but when you left, we 456 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:19.279 had signings. No, there's something else. Okay, you'll remember. I'll 457 00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.839 start telling the stories. So you're like, hey, man, I'm going 458 00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:25.240 up for the night or the day, like you were just going for the 459 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:26.799 day. Do you want to go with me? I was like, hell 460 00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:30.480 yeah, so get in the car. I remember driving up there, you 461 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.119 were telling me all about these stories. You were telling me the story was 462 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:34.920 did we ride together? Huh? Okay, I'm thinking it was a difference. 463 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.480 It was me and Jenny and you took me up there and you were 464 00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:41.400 telling me the story about the people who came to the house with the material 465 00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.920 and put the material in your down to him and You're like you're gassing me 466 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.319 up the whole way. I'm so stoked. I'm like, we're gonna see 467 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:52.119 some warbs, Like finally, gonna like I was all in my head about 468 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:55.920 it, and I was all in my head about we're gonna see something, 469 00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:59.039 and then it was in the back of my head. Am I worthy? 470 00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:03.000 Like? Is it like the same thing I struggle with as a kid? 471 00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:04.880 Right? Is it like, um, everyone around you seeing it? Am 472 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:07.640 I worthy to see it? If if we don't see it? Is it 473 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.079 me? That's what was going on my head, right, And so we 474 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:15.920 get we got there and then somebody else shows up. Vincent. Yeah, 475 00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:22.119 so Vincent and Eileen. I met both of them an earlier episode. Yeah, 476 00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:26.240 I love Vincent. Yeah, Vincent reminds me of my dad and my 477 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:32.559 mom's father. My grandfather makes into one person, and he really dogged on 478 00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:36.079 me in our episode. So I have I have a very uh in my 479 00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:37.480 head. I have a very good relationship with Vincent. I don't know. 480 00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:42.000 He's a great guy. He's a wonderful guy. Um. So I met 481 00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:48.359 them on the same day and I kind of soft pitched to your family and 482 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.960 to Vincent the podcast that night. I was telling him, I was like, 483 00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:55.400 the way Ryan talks, like he we need to have a like he 484 00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:59.599 needs to have a podcast, like blah blah blah. The first thing Vincent 485 00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:04.359 said to me, he shook my hand, he said, um, are 486 00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:08.000 you human? I remember that. That messed with me until Ryan's wedding. 487 00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:12.759 Oh my god. Yeah, that's a whole other story. Anyway, we 488 00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:15.599 didn't see anything. Your dad never got up and was like, they're here. 489 00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:19.480 We didn't go out there and see anything. I was. I mean, 490 00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.400 I went out there and spent time looking in the sky. Never saw 491 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:23.880 anything. I'm like, damn, you know, I guess they don't like 492 00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:30.319 me or whatever. And uh, We're riding home and we're we're like in 493 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:35.119 Wilmington, and the whole time we were talking about music. Am I starting 494 00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.119 to ring any bells here? Because I'm gonna need your help in the story, 495 00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:43.319 okay, And I mean I remember the day. I don't remember every 496 00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.359 little thing that was said. And stop me if this is like if I 497 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:50.400 shouldn't be talking about this, But you were talking to me about the messages 498 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:54.160 in the music and the songs that your dad was instructed to listen to to 499 00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:58.519 get the message. Yeah, I'm surprised he didn't include any of that in 500 00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:01.680 the book. Actually, So I'm still cool to keep I'm gonna need your 501 00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:07.559 with the first two songs because oh I remember, dude, this, this 502 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:12.359 blew your mind. This was better than seeing anything. Yeah, yeah, 503 00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:15.240 yeah, this always rocked your world. All right, we're in the car, 504 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:17.400 but we have to take a break from this story to provide more backstory. 505 00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:22.759 So me and my because I had moved out, me and my dad's 506 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:24.880 relationship started really improving. Hoping to have my bed always does. And you 507 00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:28.079 move out, man, Now your parents are like, we're best friends. 508 00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:32.279 And we were listening to Neil Young one night in the car and my dad 509 00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:37.279 dropped a bomb on me. Man, and he's like it so I can't 510 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:38.920 listen to the song because it makes me cry. But we're listening to this 511 00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:42.319 song and I won't say it because I'll say it. And when I finished 512 00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:45.160 the next story, and he's like, when I die, I want you 513 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.240 to play this song at my funeral. I'm like, fuck, Like, 514 00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:51.200 how are you going to drop that on me right now? So I'm like, 515 00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.359 oh, man, you just ruined this whole song for me. Um. 516 00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:59.119 So he tells me this is months prior to being in the car with 517 00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:01.119 Ryan. He tells me this song. I'm like, okay, okay, 518 00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:06.279 So fast forward months now we're back in the car. Ryan's talking to me 519 00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:08.880 about the magic or the message and the music from your dad. What were 520 00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:14.320 the first two songs? It was led Zeppelin song, it was after the 521 00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:16.559 gold Rush? Oh, you ruined the story. You said, what were 522 00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:19.920 the first two songs? Oh? No, after the gold Rush? Was 523 00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.320 the third song? No? I don't think so. So you told me 524 00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:24.760 the first two songs and that it was the Battle for Evermore by led Zeppelin 525 00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:30.320 and after the gold Rush Neil Young. Okay, well then then I'm mixing 526 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.239 up the story. But you told me one of the songs, and you 527 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:36.599 were about to tell me the second song and I and I interrupted you and 528 00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:39.079 said, you know what song I really like man is after the gold Rush? 529 00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:42.599 And you were like that was the song. I was going to say, 530 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.480 yeah, yeah, huge synchronicity on that song because I told you what 531 00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:51.599 my dad had told me before you told or third song was. And you 532 00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:54.320 know, for people out there like you have to understand, we're how many 533 00:34:54.320 --> 00:35:00.079 episodes in? Now? What is this? Almost ninety four episodes in and 534 00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:06.199 I still have not been able to unpack everything. Yeah, I mean it's 535 00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:12.480 it's sixteen years worth of experiences and conversations and data and investigations. You know, 536 00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.119 it would it would take it would take like a week long retreat just 537 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:19.320 talking all day at somebody to get all this information out. So we're hanging 538 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.480 out years and I'm like, oh, bro, I forgot to tell you 539 00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:23.800 about this. You know, my dad had an experience in twenty seventeen with 540 00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:27.559 blah blah blah blah blah, and and it comes. As time goes on, 541 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.639 we talk about more things. There's levels to this and for those who 542 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:36.239 are not at all familiar with what we're talking about, around twenty fifteen, 543 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:39.679 my dad, or actually a little sooner, Yeah, I was in high 544 00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:45.920 school. He started getting these these downloads from music. He started obsessively listening 545 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.119 to certain led Zeppelin songs and some other things like After the Gold Rush by 546 00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:52.079 Neil Young. There's a Van Halen song called Love Walks In. And there 547 00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:58.800 were these different songs that he was getting this strong download from the phenomenon that 548 00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:02.760 there was a very sincere message in them, like like a spiritual message. 549 00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:06.760 I mean, love walks In by Van Halen it says something You pull up 550 00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.440 the lyrics if you want, but it says something like an alien love walks 551 00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:15.480 in. It's like a it's like a Shining Lady Hotel California. There's there's 552 00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:20.159 some sort of Lady message in that pull up after the gold Rush lyrics after 553 00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.840 the gold Rush is crazy. It talks about silver saucers taking the chosen people 554 00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:27.719 to the sun. Yeah. Anyway, So so Dad starts talking about this 555 00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.960 to a guy by the name of Grant Cameron, who was at the time 556 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:36.000 he was a prolific uh UFO researcher, you know, like he had even 557 00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:37.920 won an award in two thousand follow on Twitter. Yeah, I mean he 558 00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:42.800 he researches a lot of stuff. I'm saying that for the audience sake, 559 00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:45.760 But um, he came to our property and started having these conversations with Dad 560 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:51.920 about the phenomenon putting messages through music and through artists and musicians. He went 561 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:57.360 and started obsessively researching that, listening to interviews of rock stars, pop stars 562 00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.199 and hearing them talk about having UFO sightings and and putting that in their music 563 00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:04.400 and all this and that. He wrote a whole book on it. He 564 00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:12.360 wrote a whole book inspired by the concept of my dad getting downloads from the 565 00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:14.800 phenomenon through music. I can't remember the name of the book, but he 566 00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:17.400 even credits my dad as being the catalyst for him. You know, wanted 567 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:20.880 to research this and that's what we were talking about and I was bringing into 568 00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:23.360 Alex And it's just so crazy because After the Gold Rush is one of those 569 00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:27.199 songs. I got the lyrics. If you want to hear a little bit 570 00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:30.239 of it. Sure, I was gonna say we should probably, you know, 571 00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:35.519 we've I think we've talked about this song before, but the lyrics are 572 00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:37.639 shocking. So let me let me just breeze through a couple of lines. 573 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.719 The first line is, well, I dreamed I saw the knights in armor 574 00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:46.480 coming saying something about a queen that's already like the lady. And literally, 575 00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:52.480 yeah, there were peasants singing and drummer's drumming and the archer split the tree. 576 00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:55.840 What does that sound like? That's pretty wild. There was a fanfare 577 00:37:55.880 --> 00:38:00.519 blow into the Sun that was floating on the breeze, look at Mother Nature 578 00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:06.159 on the run in the nineteen seventies. And then later in the song there's 579 00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:08.440 a line that says this is so wild. There's a line that says, 580 00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:14.320 well, I dreamed I saw the silver spaceships lying in the yellow haze of 581 00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:19.800 the sun. There were children crying and colors flying all around the chosen ones, 582 00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:22.320 Like, what is this song even about? I've got goosebops, I'm 583 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:28.199 about crying. Yeah, dude, it says flying Mother Nature's silver seed to 584 00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:31.920 a new home in the sun. Like, now we're going to talk about 585 00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:36.000 something deep that I've never said on the podcast before. Okay, and it's 586 00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:38.519 also not in the book. But yeah, on my episode two, yeah 587 00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:43.199 yeah, well yeah, I mean you you sparked the conversation this, you 588 00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:45.119 know, this is how it. It's all buried down in there. You 589 00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:47.559 know, I might fuck around and get a permanent seat right here. Yeah 590 00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:54.679 no, never, yeah seat. But um so, one of the phenomenon 591 00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:59.960 when they took my dad in oh seven and then you know, the time 592 00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:04.719 he met the lady, they showed him lots of things, some things that 593 00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:07.679 he has, you know, because I mean naturally, I'm a son. 594 00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:09.280 I lived with the guy for twenty three years, you know, going through 595 00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:13.000 college and then figuring out what to do after that and then going out on 596 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:15.480 my own. We had a lot of conversations about this. I'm a curious 597 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:20.079 dude. I mean I ask a lot of questions. I'm trying to figure 598 00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.119 this stuff. I was like you as a kid, like it keep me 599 00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:23.639 up at night, wanting to know everything there is to know about the universe 600 00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:29.239 and why we're here. And I asked my dad thousands of questions and probed 601 00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:31.599 him and wanted to know everything that happened, and nobody else was really doing 602 00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:38.199 that. And so he pretty much told me everything. And there's a lot 603 00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:40.920 of stuff that he never wants to talk about publicly because he doesn't like to 604 00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:45.519 spread doom and gloom. He doesn't want people to hear the bad parts of 605 00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:47.079 things because it's like, why worry about it? It's good, you know. 606 00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:52.800 Like for example, the being showed him like cataclysmic destruction that could happen 607 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.960 if we don't if the message doesn't spread, if we don't find love, 608 00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:59.320 if we don't find light. But they've told him this is not going to 609 00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:02.360 happen because it was written. This is a being's words, they said, 610 00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:07.719 it was written. It was prophesied that the light would win. It's already 611 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.599 happened. It's already going to win, that we're going to reach the New 612 00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:15.639 Age. It's just a matter of time. God's timing, you know. 613 00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:19.800 Don't even talk about the negative stuff publicly. He doesn't anyway. One of 614 00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:24.199 the things that they showed dead is that there is a portal in the Sun. 615 00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:30.239 The Sun is a portal, and it's where the beings come from. 616 00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.039 They come and go from there. It's like their home. Dude. That's 617 00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:37.559 so weird because I was seeing this thing on Twitter the other day that was 618 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:44.920 comparing satellite images of the Sun to other stars and how they're very different. 619 00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.920 I you know, I don't want to be too heavy conspiratorial, but like 620 00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:54.360 all the sal Alex's episodes, but dude, like just I just want people 621 00:40:54.400 --> 00:41:01.320 to consider this. All of the satellite images that were seeing of the celestial 622 00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:07.800 cosmos at large are from NASA. That's all I'm gonna say. And I 623 00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:10.480 think there's something else going on, you know, as opposed to what they 624 00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:14.559 want us to believe or just balls of hot gas. All I'm gonna say. 625 00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:17.480 People can believe what they want. I'm still on the fence about space. 626 00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:21.760 I'm not I believe in space. I'm just saying, dude, I'm 627 00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.039 speaking for myself. It's not it's not a ball of gas. It's something 628 00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:28.559 so much more intelligent. I mean, think about it. It's as above 629 00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:32.440 so below, like if we on this tiny, little silly microcosm of fleshy, 630 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.760 disgusting carbon matter that you know, I know, you're pretty cute. 631 00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:43.280 Well I try, I try. But I'm saying, like, if, 632 00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:46.119 if, if there's if there's inherent meaning and value into the life down here 633 00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:50.880 in the material plane, there has to be something so much more amazing and 634 00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:54.079 significant when you look at the cosmos and see these celestial, shining bodies of 635 00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:58.199 light that are giving us life in the physical universe. You know what I 636 00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:00.800 mean, The Sun has to be more in a ball of gas. So 637 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:05.440 that's all I'm saying. Yeah, And I've been really I've been really thinking 638 00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:12.000 about the fact the sheer probability of being given life. I mean, you 639 00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:16.599 you have a better chance of winning the lottery twice in this lifetime than you 640 00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:22.800 do of being born. It's it's one in trilliant. It is trilliant. 641 00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.119 Yeah. Neil de grass Tyson had a video where he was talking about that, 642 00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:29.960 like, Yeah, the number of people that are born versus the number 643 00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:36.360 of people that could have possibly been born is it is miraculous. Every single 644 00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:40.440 person is a mile a miracle. I'm a mathematical true. It's like it's 645 00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:44.400 I don't want to quote wrong numbers here, but actually it was funny. 646 00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:46.519 As my first semester of college, I was a biology major and I got 647 00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:50.800 like ss across the board. But I loved the material, I love the 648 00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:54.039 information. I just wasn't a good I wasn't a good like standardized test taking 649 00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:57.480 student, you know what I mean, and all the homework and I got 650 00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:00.679 lost. I was I just wasn't a good student. I was a good 651 00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:02.239 studio when I was interested. But point being, that was one of the 652 00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:06.519 things I learned in biology that stuck out to me. It's a it is 653 00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:09.719 a one winning being born is winning the genetic lottery. Yes, it is 654 00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:13.880 a one in multiple I don't remember if it was two hundred trillion orf it 655 00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:17.199 was two trillion or twenty trillion. It was some huge trillion number of you 656 00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:22.719 being born exactly the way that you are. Yes, all of these insane 657 00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:24.679 factors. It's a miracle, a blessing. I found the figure. What 658 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:30.719 is it. It's actually um one in four hundred trillion. There you go, 659 00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:35.119 that's the sane. It's insane. Yeah, it's way more than winning 660 00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:37.000 the lottery twice. And it's like instead of getting wrapped up in the numbers, 661 00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:42.440 like get wrapped up in the fact that that you're a miracle. Yeah, 662 00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:45.960 and that you were just by being here, just by showing up. 663 00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:50.559 Are are so blessed? There's value, yes, and being And it's not 664 00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.239 a mistake. And it's not a chance. You know, it didn't just 665 00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:59.000 happen. It's not a coincidence. Yeah, And you can't tell me that 666 00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:06.880 whatever happens after this is nothing not as equally as as exciting or a blessing 667 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:10.480 or or you know what I mean. Like that's just the kind of things 668 00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:15.079 that I have to think about to keep me from collapsing into total fear and 669 00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:21.920 chaos, like a like a star going into supernova. Don't you start talking 670 00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:25.159 about stars man and space man? Yeah, the thing with space, you 671 00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:30.320 know, is really wild because there's all these thoughts like is space even like 672 00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:34.880 a real thing? Is it some kind of weird ocean? Like there's all 673 00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:38.119 kinds of weird theories about space and stuff. But think about this, like, 674 00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:44.239 you know, think about dark matter. Dark matter is something that we 675 00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:52.280 know almost nothing about, which they postulate is literally like ninety five percent of 676 00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.719 the observable or you know, universe exactly the majority of everything. Right, 677 00:44:55.760 --> 00:45:00.280 So even when you say things like I don't you know, I I don't 678 00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:04.719 believe space is just like a big ball of gas, it's like it could 679 00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.760 sun right right, yeah, the sun. It's like, well it could 680 00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:13.199 it could be both right, right, it could be a big ball of 681 00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:16.559 gas. But in the physical observation exactly. But because of how much we 682 00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:22.840 don't know, there's just so many layers of other things, it could also 683 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:25.840 be right, space is like an onion, all right, Well, well, 684 00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:30.199 just like the human body and the soul. Yeah, but and like 685 00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:34.920 that that was my point, not not that space isn't real or whatever. 686 00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:38.639 It's as above so below. It's that there has to be a spiritual side 687 00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:43.159 to things, just like the human microcosm and the fact that we all have 688 00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:47.239 a soul simultaneously. And like there's even I think it was NBC News or 689 00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:52.360 something a few years ago put out an article online and it was like our 690 00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:58.079 stars conscious, and astrophysicists, quantum physicists, whatever. The cutting edge you 691 00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:00.440 know, science is at the moment where there's sudding stars and things like that. 692 00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:07.079 They're honestly postulating, like our celestial bodies and planetary bodies at some level 693 00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:12.079 conscious. Yes, spoiler alert, yes, I mean that's that's what the 694 00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.519 lady told my dad. That the Earth is a living being and it has 695 00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:20.679 it has a vibration that is linked to the soul of all living humans, 696 00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:25.199 and it is encoded to protect itself. And that's where these throughout the eons, 697 00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:30.400 that's where these cataclysms occur because humanity at all these different times and these 698 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:37.239 cycles in the ancient past were so negative and so far removed from God that 699 00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:42.239 it was harming the resonant vibration of the Earth. You know, you know, 700 00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:46.239 I have these earthquakes or ice ages or whatever the earth is next cycle. 701 00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:50.480 I can't take this pain anymore. And that's what the ladies show my 702 00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:52.599 dad was that that's why we have to return to God. We have to 703 00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.599 return to love. We have to return to light so that we can live 704 00:46:55.639 --> 00:47:00.199 in harmony with the earth and not be shaken off, if you can my 705 00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:02.280 drift. He doesn't like to talk about that. I found a few cool 706 00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:07.519 little tidbits about the stars being conscious thing, So we know that all molecules 707 00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:14.079 to a certain extent are conscious, and stars do in fact cool enough to 708 00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:21.360 contain stable molecules, therefore they are conscious. And then also I found something 709 00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:30.559 that said that stars stable dis equilibrio, catalytic metabolisms, periodic physiological cycles, 710 00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:37.119 and homeostatic feedback controls qualify stars as living organisms. So even by our own 711 00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:43.679 scientific standards, they are in fact living organisms and they are conscious. Wow. 712 00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:46.239 Yeah, I got lost a battle there, but I'm really glad that 713 00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:51.360 that was the outcome. Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. There's just a 714 00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:54.559 bunch of big science words basically to say, yes, they are in fact 715 00:47:54.599 --> 00:48:02.599 conscious. Yeah. I think through this, I personally have come to accept 716 00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:07.039 that as a complete truth, that all celestial bodies are, you know, 717 00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:13.280 in fact alive basically because everything has consciousness, so they have to be a 718 00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:19.880 lot take that consciousness has to be applied to the astrology. That's that's why 719 00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.480 I believe in astrology in the first place. Like, these are these, 720 00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:28.440 these are these are in in some macrocosmic grand galactic scale. These are living 721 00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:31.800 beings out in the cosmos. They're not just balls of gas, you know 722 00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:35.039 what I mean. And it's like we're taught yeah, they're energies, and 723 00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:37.119 like that's why I believe in astrology in the first place. When this when 724 00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:42.280 when the soul is brought into this world, every every you know, living 725 00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.440 human soul or whatever. When it's when it's brought into this world and all 726 00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:52.199 of these celestial energies are in these specific places, it has a like a 727 00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:57.280 cosmic archetypal, you know, imprint on the soul. Astrology has to be 728 00:48:57.400 --> 00:49:01.079 real to believe, otherwise is closing your eyes to the bigger picture. I'm 729 00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:05.159 not saying you gotta believe in like the classic horoscopes and all that, but 730 00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:08.679 there's something to it. Yeah, that's That's the other thing about astrology is 731 00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:12.719 a lot of people just look at like the daily horoscopes and they're in the 732 00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:15.920 newspaper. Yeah, like that's that's bs. Leo's gonna have a bad day 733 00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:19.920 today. Well I checked ours yesterday, Nick and we were co star said 734 00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:24.400 we were very compatible yesterday. Well, we remember what Vincent said about our 735 00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:30.000 past lives, my friends, You and I were compatible. All right, 736 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.440 let me just say that we are. We are certainly compatible. Yeah, 737 00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:38.320 I'm gonna say this right here before the episode even ends, because every time 738 00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:40.800 it's over, we always talk about this, but I'm gonna say it right 739 00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:45.039 now. Hot, this is a banging episode. Dude, thank you. 740 00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:49.199 Yeah, I really enjoying, well enjoying. We knew it was gonna be 741 00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.599 hot. Yeah, well we knew you were gonna be hot. We knew 742 00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:54.039 you were gonna have dude, our viewers are gonna sky all the ladies. 743 00:49:54.480 --> 00:50:00.440 You know. Our demographic I think is like mostly male. It's about to 744 00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:04.840 change, brother, that's about to change a big time. Yo. To 745 00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:09.199 leap back a quick second on the back to the astrology stuff, and like 746 00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:13.400 I'll let you leap back. Oh, thank you, thank you, Alex. 747 00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:15.480 Even though you're in that seat, you're still in complete control. Yeah, 748 00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:19.880 I'm noticing, Like it's it's not about the job. It's you know, 749 00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:25.440 it's the people doing the job. Yeah exactly, But about like celestial 750 00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:34.119 bodies being conscious but also like giving off vibrations and frequencies and energy. You 751 00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:38.400 know, that's a hermetic principle. Everything is vibration and frequency and scientific absolutely, 752 00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:42.679 that is science. That's science. Fact. Yeah. I think it's 753 00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.599 called the Brownian movement something. It's a real law. It's a scientific law 754 00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:52.119 accepted. Yeah that that I mean that alone. You know, so imagine, 755 00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:54.119 you know, you don't have to imagine because it's true, but we 756 00:50:54.360 --> 00:51:00.079 are vibrational and frequency emitting beings. We are affected by frequencies. This is 757 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:05.039 all science. NASA told us that at my house. Really, yes, 758 00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:14.039 that the that the bones of the human skeleton are actually receiving regular frequency signals 759 00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:19.679 from somewhere out there in the cosmos. Yes, well, the human skeleton 760 00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.719 and the hair are an antenna to some sort of signal coming from out there 761 00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:30.679 in the cosmos. Yeah, And it's it's only plausible that those completely unfathomably 762 00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:39.360 huge celestial bodies are putting out extremely strong, potent vibrations and frequencies and they 763 00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:44.079 probably go really freaking far because of how big they are. I mean, 764 00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:46.119 we can see their light with our eyes from billions of light years away. 765 00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:52.719 I mean, and they're all walked within an astronomical, astrological whatever you want 766 00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:55.239 to call into a cycle by you know, gravity, They're all tethered to 767 00:51:55.360 --> 00:52:00.840 one another. So how could it be that we on a planet that is 768 00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:06.360 tethered with all these other planets? How are we unaffected by those other planets? 769 00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:07.199 Right? You know what I just thought about when you were saying that. 770 00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:12.000 Now, look, I don't endorse freemasonry, but as we you know, 771 00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.719 Bledso, said Sowers. I've been saying that lately. Let's set it 772 00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:17.840 in a live chat the other night, Bledso said Sowers. Or always understand 773 00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:24.679 that when we extrapolate all of this data from these secret societies and mystery schools, 774 00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:28.880 that they're all hinting at something very similar. So just because you know, 775 00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:30.840 I'm not saying go be a Mason, doesn't mean that they're not, 776 00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:35.320 you know, hiding certain little nuggets of wisdom in their teachings. And they 777 00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:40.400 have a very common popular phrase, out of chaos order, Right, what's 778 00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:46.639 the American motto e pluribus unum out of many one. We know Freemasons and 779 00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:52.519 Rosicrucians and Deists and some Christians too started the country. We know that. 780 00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:55.199 Okay. So there's a lot of Masonic symbolism in the American seal, the 781 00:52:55.239 --> 00:53:00.079 dollar bill, all this stuff. Though the Washington you see is based on 782 00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:04.760 a bunch of like Greek and Masonic architecture. It's a fact, okay. 783 00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:09.119 What is out of chaos or what is out of chaos order? Mean, 784 00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:15.760 there is a cosmic duality, There is a feminine and a masculine constant. 785 00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:20.639 Or you could think of the dark and the light or the chaos in the 786 00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:24.119 order rotating or you know the araborus, the serpent eating his tail for eternity. 787 00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:30.840 There is this inherent watery abyssal chaos to space, which is symbolized as 788 00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:37.519 like Noon, the Egyptian deity of the watery abyss of chaos of space. 789 00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:42.119 And then there's the order of the celestial bodies. It's like, it's crazy 790 00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:45.199 when you think about it, what you just said. There's this extreme precise, 791 00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:52.760 calculated order in the cosmos and how it functions, you know, and 792 00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:53.840 it's like, that's what you see when you zoom all the way out and 793 00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:59.639 all the way in on the macrocosmic and the microscopic or microcosmic scale. Is 794 00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:05.679 like this intelligent consciousness perceiving order at all levels of the known universe. That's 795 00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:08.320 God the mind, you know what I mean. Everywhere you look there's order. 796 00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:13.480 The law of large numbers. It's a real mathematical function where if you 797 00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:15.639 look at any data set, it could be anything. It could be how 798 00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:21.840 many red cars in a city, or how many people burp after they have 799 00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:24.199 a soda, any stupid data set. You know what I mean. If 800 00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:29.519 you zoom out and look at the data at a high enough level, there 801 00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:34.480 is always a repeating pattern at every level of the observable universe. Out of 802 00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:39.639 chaos comes order. Yeah, this is a very deep hermetic, you know, 803 00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:45.320 spiritual principle. Been getting really into the numbers lately. Yeah, yeah, 804 00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:49.159 like rology, and I had to process what you're saying for a second. 805 00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:52.239 I still think about the order thing. But so so I think that, 806 00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:59.639 like the astrology is what kind of governs your spiritual body expression or yeah, 807 00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:02.719 like personnel. Yeah exactly. And I think that archetype, this physical 808 00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:07.280 world that we live in that you could call matrix, operates purely on numbers, 809 00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:12.000 and so how you move about in this physical world it comes out in 810 00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:16.400 your numerology, and how you kind of are spiritually comes out in your astrology. 811 00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:20.519 So yeah, I vibe with that. Yeah, that's kind of what 812 00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:22.400 I've been thinking about a lot. I'm not super into the numerology. I'm 813 00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:25.639 getting there when we when I get there, we'll have another You're being very 814 00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:30.800 humble about that. You've told me some pretty mind blowing things about new I 815 00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:32.400 know. I just like, yeah, I'm like, I'm at a very 816 00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:36.760 surface level at the learning phase. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. 817 00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:39.239 So like Nick is an eight life path? Yeah, what does that mean 818 00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:47.079 for me? So money basically eight. I saw something about power with eights, 819 00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:52.360 so money and power essentially. Um, well I'm waiting for it, 820 00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:58.079 well having it, not having it, and it's like and it's you'll experience 821 00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:04.719 both. Um, I've written it down somewhere. And then you're a three. 822 00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:07.039 I'm a one life path. Oh you're a one? What are you? 823 00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:12.039 No, I'm a nine, So you're a one. And then you're 824 00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:17.239 a partial seven, so meaning you're on the seventh day, so seven what 825 00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:21.760 what? What day are you before we move? One? Fifteen six? 826 00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:24.880 So you're eight and a six. Six is home and family. So my 827 00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:29.639 dad is a six life path. Yeah, home and family. Olivia is 828 00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:32.679 a six, a true six six day six life path. Whoa yeah. 829 00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:37.719 And then I think Jenny is a true seven. I think so she's born 830 00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:40.519 on the sixteenth, which is one sixteenth, so you both are sevens and 831 00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:45.880 seven is genius by the way, But you're one. One is masculine aggressiveness. 832 00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:49.920 Power. One. From what I understand, it's like the Magician the 833 00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:53.920 manifesto. The leader was the one. It's the leader of the beginning. 834 00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:58.239 But one is masculine, two is feminine, and three is the child. 835 00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:00.840 I had told you that that's the law of the triangle. That's yeah, 836 00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:05.320 yeah, that's true. Yeah, it transcends multiple planes. And I was 837 00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:08.559 reading like Rosicrucian manuals. It goes all in. It's it's literally called the 838 00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:14.000 law of the triangle. And they draw these very strange but very fascinating mind 839 00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:17.960 blowing and the initial existence of the material universe was the point. It was 840 00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:22.559 one. It was the original expression of consciousness. And then it makes a 841 00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:25.360 line, it splits into duality, and there are two points, the opposite 842 00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:31.440 opposing forces, male and female. And then those two forces when they combine, 843 00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:35.239 they make another force, which is that creation is the child. It's 844 00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:38.239 the secret of the trinity. You know, we are the creation of the 845 00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:42.559 divine, you know what I mean. The law of the triangle is what 846 00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:50.280 that's called. Yeah. So nine is adaptation and completion. Nine completes the 847 00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:52.880 cycle. There's a lot of misconceptions about nine, is what I'm finding out, 848 00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:57.800 and I'm finding it hard to find real information on nines. I paid 849 00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:00.000 for a reading, I didn't bring it with me. Mine is the mirror 850 00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:05.280 from what I heard, because maybe I'm confusing that maybe I'm so I'll run 851 00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:08.840 through them real quick. So there's it's one through nine, So you're all 852 00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:14.360 of the numbers in your birthday added together, and then those are added together 853 00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:17.519 until you come out with one. It's Pythagorean numerology, right, So it's 854 00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:21.519 one through nine, and then you have eleven, twenty two, and thirty 855 00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:27.079 three master numbers. Yes, so one masculine, aggressive, the beginning leader, 856 00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:31.000 that kind of thing. Two is compromising, feminine. And that's all 857 00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:35.360 I have written down for two. I don't really know any twos I think, 858 00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:40.760 but three communication. Four is law and order and hard work. What 859 00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:45.800 I what I like about four is you can really apply it to your life. 860 00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:50.000 Never break the law on a four day. There's going to be more 861 00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:52.440 police, more law and order out on the four days, you know. 862 00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:58.000 And if you think about you know, we understand that symbolism are the archetypal 863 00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:00.800 expressions of consciousness. Right. We used to talk about this a lot earlier 864 00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:01.599 in the show, and I want to do an episode on it soon. 865 00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:08.119 Four is the symbolism for like the structure of the material universe, you have 866 00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:13.599 the divine, the original, the duality, the expression of you know, 867 00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:16.960 binary sorts of cosmic existence, masculine and feminine forces. Then you have the 868 00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:21.280 third the creation of that. But then what happens when you add another point? 869 00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:23.239 It creates a square. You have a structure. You know, most 870 00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:28.159 things sit on a table, it's a sturdy, solid foundation. Houses are 871 00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:31.280 built in boxes. You have all that Saturn cube symbolism. Oh, we're 872 00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:36.159 trapped in Saturn's cube. We're in the matrix. The physical material reality is 873 00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:39.800 represented by that square. If you look at the real Philosopher's stone symbol, 874 00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:44.360 not like our rendition of it on the blitz of sets of symbology, but 875 00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:46.960 the real one. It's the triangle, the circle, and then it's squared. 876 00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:52.480 It's showing all this consciousness is encased in materiality. The law in the 877 00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:58.119 order. Yeah, the structure yep. So six Home and family, seven 878 00:59:58.199 --> 01:00:01.519 genius. We talked about these eight money what I have. I'll be quick 879 01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:07.800 about this, but um, Beijing Olympics two thousand and eight, two thousand 880 01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:10.960 and eight. Do you know what day they opened? They did the opening 881 01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:16.360 ceremony August eighth, twenty eight, eight eight twenty eight, essentially a day 882 01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:20.320 after my birthday. That's a lions Gate Portal eight eight, two thousand and 883 01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:22.719 eight, and after they did that, they have become one of the world 884 01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:30.400 powers monetarily. Wow, their GDP, I think increased a lot. They're 885 01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:34.800 they're like their wealth as a country increased by by a lot. I don't 886 01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:37.400 know the exact figures, so I'm not going to speak but money I have. 887 01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:42.039 I have a personal story about money. I went shopping for a large 888 01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:45.719 item, like a large dollar value item, and I'll keep it brief, 889 01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:49.960 and I realized on the way of the story that it was an eight day 890 01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:52.000 So we did. We picked out exactly what we wanted, I mean, 891 01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:58.320 big ticket item. I get to the checkout and I'm reviewing my receipt with 892 01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:00.360 the salesperson. I'm like, what is this and she's like, well, 893 01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:06.280 actually, what happened was we put that item on the floor and we mistagged 894 01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:08.800 it and we tagged it for the price that we bought it for. Oh 895 01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:15.880 my god. So essentially I got I saved a lot, I got fifty 896 01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:21.440 percent off essentially this item. I saved so much money on accident, and 897 01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:24.800 I went shopping on an eight day, So keep that in mind. Right 898 01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:30.360 nine's adaptation completion talked about that and then we get into the master numbers. 899 01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:34.719 Eleven the master communicator and charisma. You look at a lot of these Internet 900 01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.960 celebrities, a lot of these people. I'm pretty sure Joe Rogan is eleven 901 01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:42.039 life path or he was born on the eleventh, but a lot of these 902 01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:46.880 people who get into the communication side of things. And then twenty two is 903 01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:52.000 the master builder. Don't know a lot about twenty two, but I decided 904 01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:53.960 to get married on the twenty two days, so hey, we find out 905 01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:59.320 about that's awesome. And thirty three is like the master influencer, the master, 906 01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:01.440 the teacher, the teacher sage or that's why, you know, for 907 01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:09.679 those who understand the symbolism behind like Jesus dying at thirty three, that's that's 908 01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:14.079 that number was put like that for a reason. He was the master or 909 01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:17.760 the teacher. So and remember we did a Buddhism episode there's um what was 910 01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:22.639 it, thirty two Jewels in Heaven from a Buddhist perspective or something like thirty 911 01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:27.239 three, thirty three vertebrae on the spine and thirty three levels of um. 912 01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:30.480 We did a whole episode of think thirty three degrees at Freemasonry. Yeah, 913 01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:32.880 yeah, yeah, cool. So that's like a taste of it. Maybe 914 01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:37.119 we'll get into it a little deeper. But Nick, you got a hard 915 01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:45.400 question for me. Um, yes I do. Um why Catholicism You'll have 916 01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:46.960 to ask my mom? All right, No, Actually, the real reason 917 01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:52.480 is, uh, I'm twenty five percent Italian. My grandfather was born in 918 01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:57.480 Italy and the very middle name is Campana. Yeah, that's my mom's maiden 919 01:02:57.559 --> 01:02:59.599 name. I don't get that. All right, Well, let's go alright 920 01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:05.119 real because I know we're right, but um, synchronicities in my life. 921 01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:09.719 My mom's maiden name is Campana. That's now my middle name. But my 922 01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:16.360 dad's mother's name was Anne camp Wow. That's like, yes, bro, 923 01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:23.800 that's that's insane, the craziest psycho. Yeah, that's that's the craziest, 924 01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:27.239 the crazier than that. I don't know if you guys know the story, 925 01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:30.480 you might, but um, so it was nineteen ninety eight. My mom 926 01:03:30.599 --> 01:03:37.000 is pregnant with me and my cousin, my cousin Justin, shout out, 927 01:03:37.039 --> 01:03:42.159 Justin, shout out Justin. Brother. Um, I was supposed to be 928 01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:46.559 born in October and my cousin Justin goes to my dad and it's like, 929 01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:51.599 wouldn't it be so cool if Alex was born on my birthday? Bro? 930 01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:57.639 Nick, you realize where I'm going with that reaction? Right? Where are 931 01:03:57.639 --> 01:04:00.559 you going with it? Last night we had this sacked conversation with your dad. 932 01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:05.039 Yeah that's crazy, and the same thing happened. Yeah. Yeah, 933 01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:08.639 so he goes, wouldn't it be so cool if he was born on my 934 01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:12.119 birthday? And my Dad's like, no, that would make that would make 935 01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:16.199 him two months premature. What happened? He's two months premature? You weren't 936 01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:23.039 two months premature on my cousin's birthday twenty years apart. August twenty eighth, 937 01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:26.840 nineteen ninety eight. We gotta get your dad to briefly because I'll talk to 938 01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.400 him about him. Yeah, yeah, to tell last night, Nick's dad 939 01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:32.159 was, you know, because he's here in town. He was just telling 940 01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:35.199 us, you you you know these people better than me, they're your relatives. 941 01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:39.719 Well no, no, actually these were, um, this was like 942 01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:43.320 my childhood best friend. Okay, this was yeah. They lived down the 943 01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:47.000 street from us, and yeah, he was he was essentially saying, uh, 944 01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:51.840 you know, they they were expecting twins, and he was like, 945 01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:56.079 man, he saw a vision that they were gonna be twins, yes, 946 01:04:56.159 --> 01:05:00.840 in advance exactly. Yeah, like a spiritual vision. He saw a vision 947 01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:04.800 that they were going to have twins, which they had always wanted and never 948 01:05:04.920 --> 01:05:10.119 you know, these were the last children they had, so they had two 949 01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:14.079 other sons prior and they really just I don't know why, they just really 950 01:05:14.079 --> 01:05:19.000 wanted twins. Um and yeah, he said, man, because my dad 951 01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:23.920 and my brother they have the same birthday, which is a day before mine 952 01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:27.840 too. Yeah, there's just so a lot of weird. That's my fiance 953 01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:31.000 is it fiance? If fiance, it goes both ways, right yeah, 954 01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:34.840 yeah, all right, yeah, that's Olivia's birthday. Yeah, so Olivia's 955 01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:40.079 birthday's August six, Yeah, what mine is August seventh, And Nick's dad 956 01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:43.760 and brother are also August six. And that's weird. We all have that 957 01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:49.159 connection. That's extremely weird. Very I didn't know Olivia's birthday was August six. 958 01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:53.679 Yeah. Well like in the past life we had a more physical connection. 959 01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:59.960 Yeah, remember deeply connected connected my numbers now but anyway, yeah, 960 01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:01.639 the jeans. So he was like, man, wouldn't it be so it 961 01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:04.679 was the change and they are twins, yeah, yeah, he was. 962 01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:09.320 He was like Scott, who was the father. He was like, man, 963 01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:12.840 you know Robert, he got him and his son have the same birthday. 964 01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:15.800 It's so cool. I would love if if you know, my boys 965 01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:19.400 had my twins had the same birthday as me, and I believe. Yeah, 966 01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:26.039 they were born like a couple of weeks prematurely and on his birthday. 967 01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:28.760 I got one more story. That's weird about that. It was like four 968 01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:32.400 pounds or something. But dude, that is I did not know that about 969 01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:38.360 you, Alex. That's really miraculous. I mean, that's you asked why 970 01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:42.239 he's so hot. Sorry to cut you off, man, but the cool 971 01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:45.760 One of the coolest things about that job we were talking about earlier. I 972 01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:50.039 was selling to this couple and it got to like, oh, what do 973 01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:53.639 you do. She's like, oh, I just retired from the hospital. 974 01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:58.039 I was in the the neoonatal unit. I was like, no way, 975 01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:00.679 how like what hospital? She was like new him whatever. I was like, 976 01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:02.880 how long did you work there? She was like, I started working 977 01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:08.159 there in like the nineteen nineties. I'm like, there's a really good chance 978 01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:13.480 that you helped save my life. Wow. She worked in that hospital, 979 01:07:13.559 --> 01:07:16.320 in the unit I was in in nineteen ninety eight and then getting like and 980 01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:18.280 I was like, thank you. You know what I mean, Like, 981 01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:23.559 yeah, such such a wild experience. Okay, two quick birth stories. 982 01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:27.880 This is pretty dark. The day I was Okay, the day I was 983 01:07:27.960 --> 01:07:32.239 born in nineteen ninety three, Um, there was like a mass shooting at 984 01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:36.559 Luigi's across town, the restaurant Luigi's. That was the day you were born. 985 01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:42.840 Yeah, that's a notorious story. I know Whoa And it was all 986 01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:46.440 on the TV while I was being born. Whoa anyway, So then the 987 01:07:46.440 --> 01:07:49.679 other story you might not remember this. I think I was eighteen when Jonah 988 01:07:49.679 --> 01:07:53.920 was born. Shout out Leah and Jonah. That sounds about right. Yeah, 989 01:07:54.039 --> 01:07:58.280 those are my lovely niece and nephew. Uh. Leah watches like every 990 01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:00.360 episode. She got like her friends into it. They're the best. I 991 01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:04.840 love you Lee and Jonah. Shout out Leah's friends. They're just wonderful kids. 992 01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:08.760 And I've known them since they were born. And you know, because 993 01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:11.880 me and Nick been friends since we were eleven and twelve anyway, so i'd 994 01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:15.039 know when when your sister was pregnant with Jonah, I had a very vivid 995 01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:18.039 dream that it was going to be a boy. And in my and I 996 01:08:18.119 --> 01:08:21.520 knew this because in my dream I was wearing I had this shirt that was 997 01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:26.600 like I got it from Walmart. It was a long sleeve kind of like 998 01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:30.920 you know, the waffle material. It was a long sleeve waffle material camo 999 01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:33.640 pattern shirt. And in my dream, I was wearing this shirt and I 1000 01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:40.600 was holding the boy, and I remember your sister and everybody. Maybe your 1001 01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:42.600 mom wasn't on it too, but she was like, it's gonna be a 1002 01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:45.560 girl. I can feel it. It's my motherly intuition. It's gonna be 1003 01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:47.399 a girl. It's gonna be a girl. I want a girl. And 1004 01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:49.399 I told her. I was like, I had a dream it's gonna be 1005 01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:51.600 a boy. I think it's gonna be a boy. And move on. 1006 01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:55.439 We didn't really ever talk about it again. You know, it wasn't a 1007 01:08:55.479 --> 01:08:59.760 big deal. And sure enough it was a boy. And when I showed 1008 01:08:59.800 --> 01:09:02.920 up to their house the first time that I was there, when the baby 1009 01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:06.880 was there, I happened to be wearing the shirt from my dream. So 1010 01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:10.439 I was like, WHOA, this is weird. Remember that. And it 1011 01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:12.880 wasn't planned. I was just coming over to hang out. I mean, 1012 01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:14.960 we lived, you know a half a mile apart or whatever. So I 1013 01:09:14.960 --> 01:09:16.880 went over and I held him in the chair in my dream that I had 1014 01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:21.439 the cameo shirt on. It's so weird and profound. I don't know. 1015 01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:26.279 I think I've told you this before, but so it's kind of funny. 1016 01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:30.439 I was actually born after I was supposed to be born. I was baking 1017 01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:34.640 in the oven a little too long, and my mom, well, yeah, 1018 01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:40.000 well done. Yeah, And my mom was like so over it, 1019 01:09:40.119 --> 01:09:44.840 like she was so over it, and she was in a lot of pain, 1020 01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:48.399 and she was just ready to get me the fuck out. And she 1021 01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:53.800 prayed to God on like a Friday, I think it was a Friday or 1022 01:09:53.880 --> 01:09:56.439 Saturday. She prayed to God. She said, God, I need to 1023 01:09:56.479 --> 01:09:59.439 know when this baby is coming. I can't take much more of this. 1024 01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:05.279 And she said, instantaneously she heard a man's voice. Actually it may have 1025 01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:10.399 been a woman's voice, which is even more interesting. Say Wednesday, and 1026 01:10:10.600 --> 01:10:14.960 were four days later or whatever we're I don't know, Yeah, yep, 1027 01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:17.800 Wednesday, she heard it, clears, she heard it clear his day Wednesday, 1028 01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:24.119 boom. And I feel like so many expecting mothers have experiences. Oh 1029 01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:28.680 yeah, and if you think about it's a spiritual thing exactly and the spiritual 1030 01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:31.880 miracle. There's a soul like jest stating inside of you. Yes, you 1031 01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:35.159 know, like it's pretty crazy. Yeah, are one of our very bet 1032 01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:40.039 like mutual best friends for nine months? You have two souls pretty much? 1033 01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:43.880 Yeah, twice the power. But Nick and I have this very very good, 1034 01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:48.239 like close close mutual friend named Jacob. Shout out Jacob's Yeah, I 1035 01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:50.920 know, I know. I'm just saying for the audience sake, there's an 1036 01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:55.800 audience. Yeah, like you know, there's there's somebody out there listening. 1037 01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:59.079 But um, so he's he's our very good friend. And the three of 1038 01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:00.720 us just grew up together. They're and just like doing so much together. 1039 01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:13.079 And um anyway, Jacob was born nine pounds with a tooth. Tooth? 1040 01:11:13.279 --> 01:11:15.720 What it's It's real, It's possible. I know of a baby recently that 1041 01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:17.840 was born of the tooth. I can't remember who it is, but I 1042 01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:23.199 saw I saw the picture nine pounds of the tooth. That's legend. Shit. 1043 01:11:23.279 --> 01:11:25.840 Have you seen the picture of the baby that comes out with the birth 1044 01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:29.720 control in his hand? Oh? Yes, what do you know? Like 1045 01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:32.840 the Oh yeah, oh okay, oh yes, I was like, are 1046 01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:36.479 you like a pill. No, he came out like I got you, 1047 01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:40.039 I beat you. It's getting crazy now. Yeah. Well, that's what 1048 01:11:40.079 --> 01:11:42.359 I like to say, is like I came out on my terms. I'm 1049 01:11:42.359 --> 01:11:45.439 like, let's get this party started. You've always been in control, That's 1050 01:11:45.479 --> 01:11:47.800 what I'm saying. I came out to a freaking mass shooting. Man. 1051 01:11:49.720 --> 01:11:55.000 Well, you're doing great setting the tone. That's amazing. Well, and 1052 01:11:55.039 --> 01:11:59.800 then that leads itself to the whole conversation of like, um, all of 1053 01:11:59.840 --> 01:12:03.800 that, like anything that the mother's going through gets put into that soul. 1054 01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:09.560 That's yes. Yeah. So last thing I'll say about birth stories. Um 1055 01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:14.159 my brother Jeremy is like he's like six to three now, but he was 1056 01:12:14.199 --> 01:12:16.119 always tall. I mean even as a toddler, he was huge. He 1057 01:12:16.600 --> 01:12:19.760 was he was when he was like one or two years old. He was 1058 01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:26.279 nearly two feet long, like way bigger than he should have been for his 1059 01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:30.520 age. Tall. Yes, yes, okay, he's tall. Tall, 1060 01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:34.239 I mean long, same difference or stand him up. He's two feet tall 1061 01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:40.800 at like one but if you lay him down, he's long. Okay, 1062 01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:43.600 this time, I think most people out there can understand what I'm saying. 1063 01:12:44.399 --> 01:12:48.520 But anyways, he was so big in the womb. He broke my mother's 1064 01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:54.000 ribs. Oh my god. He was just always kicking his feet and hyper 1065 01:12:54.039 --> 01:12:56.399 even before he was born. You know what, my mom just told me. 1066 01:12:56.560 --> 01:12:58.720 My mom and dad are here. My mom just told me, like 1067 01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:04.760 an hour ago. She was like, you ruined me. You're her freaking 1068 01:13:05.479 --> 01:13:12.720 baby her, you're her prize. My mom almost taking cats for real. 1069 01:13:12.880 --> 01:13:15.520 Yeah, so I like to tell Nick that mom tried to kill me and 1070 01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:20.840 then he tried to kill mom. Everybody's cool, now, everybody's fine. 1071 01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:25.760 That's hilarious. Yeah, we gotta do this again. This is fun. 1072 01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:29.199 This is awesome fun. Maybe in another two years, really like another two 1073 01:13:29.279 --> 01:13:32.359 years. This was a really like awesome, yeah experience. I had a 1074 01:13:32.359 --> 01:13:34.439 great time. Thanks for having me killing me, dude, are you kidding 1075 01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:39.560 me? Yeah? You're always shout out Nick, Shout out Ian Dylan already 1076 01:13:39.560 --> 01:13:42.560 got one. Shout out dg. He's been waiting two years for this. 1077 01:13:42.920 --> 01:13:45.239 Yeah, I hope they shout out. Shout out all the teachers that taught 1078 01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:49.239 me everything I know. Yeah, shout out Graham. Shout out Graham. 1079 01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:51.880 What's up, Graham? What's up Graham? Is that Grandma? No, 1080 01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:57.359 that's grandma? My teacher. Oh hell yo, awesome, what do you 1081 01:13:57.399 --> 01:14:00.760 want to do? The hit hit the um the GB with the bgs. 1082 01:14:01.720 --> 01:14:03.840 Yeah, the Green Boys, we gotta hit him with the bye guys. 1083 01:14:03.960 --> 01:14:06.600 Let's do it. We call ourselves the Green Boys for those that don't know. 1084 01:14:08.119 --> 01:14:12.720 Yes, let's go. All right, we'll lead the way. Are 1085 01:14:12.720 --> 01:14:15.439 we going down? Her? Up? I mean it's your episode, all 1086 01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:21.319 right, three two one by Weird things happen in the backyard of what so 1087 01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:41.800 House? Yeah said, I got it's so weird coming closer to her like 1088 01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:53.279 spirraling on the inside of it. No one, Wow, come right, 1089 01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:12.319 shine, ain't heavy