WEBVTT 1 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:53.840 Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, cats and dogs. Your boy bezeek 2 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:57.079 in the building. I'm here at ninety four feet podcast. I'm here, 3 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:00.600 my brother Dre. What's good? Everybody glad to me back the building for 4 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:06.239 our ninetyeth episode Let's go? Are you really keeping dragging it? I am 5 00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:11.120 all right. I'm also hearing my brother Key was good. Good people, 6 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:15.879 It's good to be in the building. It is my unfortunate friends. I 7 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:21.719 think he's talking about Donald over here. But uh, you know, but 8 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:25.359 you started the episode calling me Donald and that's going to be on. Yes 9 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:27.079 it was. I don't know if you were calling him Donald. Yes, 10 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:34.760 that's exactly which one. It was, number one number. But you know 11 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:38.400 how offensive that makes. That's number number, that's number one number. Two 12 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:44.159 heard it? Oh they heard it. I think you heard it. They 13 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:47.480 heard it because you know what this is how you know they pick up the 14 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:51.920 sound as soon as the music stop. You were saying Donald, and let's 15 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:59.719 tone edits it out. You're going to hear your voice anyways. You know 16 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:01.799 it's all good man. I'm happy, man, I'm excited to be here 17 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:07.879 in the building. Man to the week the week before Thanksgiving, Man two 18 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:09.840 weeks. Well, I have a vacation next week, so I think I've 19 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:15.120 just geeked out, all right, ninety, No, this is ninety this 20 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:17.879 is don't cut me off. I'm excited just because you're over there working like 21 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:22.960 a like I'm supposed to be appreciate fairly. But no, I'm just excited 22 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:29.400 because I'm just excited. All next week next we're gonna go back into Tuesday, 23 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:35.039 the twenty eighth. So I got a trip this weekend, so I'll 24 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:39.439 be out of town, and could you be able to come back and uh, 25 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:44.400 you know, not have to go right back into uh the place. 26 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:51.479 It's a long time to be off. I know you sneeze. And I 27 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:54.280 hope you get a sign to prison on Thanksgiving? Yeah, why would you 28 00:02:54.319 --> 00:03:00.120 say that? Why would why would you said a sign the prison? I'm 29 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:07.719 not getting he said, tripping fall it's too so his is okay, But 30 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:09.680 mind not tripping fall. You said, I hope you're go to jail. 31 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:16.319 I said, I hope you get assigned all prison. I heard, why 32 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:21.680 do you put my business out here? Shut up? Anyways? See you 33 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:23.560 do. Now you're gonna be all over your all episode. You're gonna be 34 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:29.360 all over you We talked about that before relax on this podcast. Can we 35 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:30.639 know? We didn't? Can we just we did? Do you mind we 36 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:35.960 move forward? We did not. We did because we all were making comparisons 37 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:39.080 with Kyrie Irvin situation. Man, come on, we'll talk about it later. 38 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:42.439 I'm not gonna do this. You do this with y'all. I'm not 39 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:50.039 doing this with you. To that you started this calling saying down ninety four 40 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:52.919 feet nation. This is what we do. This is our last episode before. 41 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:59.599 No, it's not our last. We recorded next week Thanksgiving in two 42 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:00.840 weeks. You got a vacation, but we still have to come into the 43 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:08.919 studio next week. So you gotta work next week? Then? No, 44 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:12.240 no, my lad. So this week I head to Chicago Friday. I'll 45 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:15.399 be in Chicago Friday, Serry Sunday. Okay, come back, come back, 46 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:20.040 Okay, you don't get to cut me off. You started them up, 47 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:24.720 you did it. There are no children here. It's not about that. 48 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:33.959 What fine. Coming on, Let's start with the injury report. I 49 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:42.240 don't want to do it. Uh, the injury report. The spirit of 50 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:46.240 rebellion is in the building today. Oh please do not give him any more 51 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:51.120 Emo to think he's in charge of was you're using the injury report Brooklyn Nets. 52 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:55.439 This is not true. He's actually back or did he get hurt again? 53 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:59.360 He got hurt again. I'm glad I dropped him from my fantasy team 54 00:04:59.879 --> 00:05:03.800 with Cam Thomas is out with an ankle injury for two weeks. Hold on 55 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:11.360 just a second team. He's been injured for two weeks. When he plays, 56 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:15.519 I need a big He was one of my only two bigs. I 57 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:18.240 did auto draft this yere because I finished in the bottom two the last four 58 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:23.360 years. My lineup does not stink. Cam. Thank you, Thank you, 59 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:30.800 Cam Thomas, Cam, cam Thomas, thank you all right. Denver 60 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:33.920 Nuggets are without Jamal Murray. That's a big blow, excuse me to their 61 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:38.879 offense. He's out with a right hamstring injury. He is out for the 62 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:45.800 rest of November. The Lakers are without Jared Vanderbilt or Vanderbilt with vendor belt 63 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:50.279 vnder Belt at the university. He's out with a heel for an unknown amount 64 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:57.319 of time. A d surprise, surprise. He is out with hipspasm and 65 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:00.600 he's listed day to day. They had the worst meme of film. People 66 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:03.480 are so like, you know, we do what we do right because we're 67 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:09.319 friends, we're like family. But people take this stuff so far. Yeah 68 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:12.480 they take Yes they do, Yes, they do. Many people are human 69 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:16.519 beings. The Miami he Tyler hero bray two ankle spray out for two weeks. 70 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:19.319 I question that because he's already been out a week. But then'na be 71 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:24.240 the same people who catch a cold and need to take three days offrom work 72 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:28.199 man, come on and if they got paid means and dollars, people would 73 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:33.720 have something to say to Milwaukee Bucks are without Dame Lillard. He is out 74 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:42.000 with the calf injury day to day. Jay Crowder a growing injury day to 75 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:48.040 day. Why am I saying it like the Pelicans are without McCullum man prayor 76 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:54.920 to that man collapse right long? Man. That's that's tough. No timetable, 77 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:59.519 but positive healing reports are out there. That's what's up. Jose Alvarado 78 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:05.199 and injury out for two weeks. Seventy six Ers man Jeez Kelly Ubrey suffered 79 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:13.319 a broken ribs and cuts after being hit while walking last night and he is 80 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:17.839 out a significant amount of time. The Phoenix Suns Devin Booker is still out 81 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:24.959 with the calf injury. The Portland trail Blazers. Scott Henderson is scoot. 82 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:31.160 That says Scott Scoot. That says Scott Scoot is c o T Yeah, 83 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:38.319 scooped Henderson. He said Bray was walking, that he was a pedestrian, 84 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:42.279 and he got yeah, I don't understand why he was walking. I know 85 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:45.639 where he was walking to. They say he got hit hook car. I 86 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:48.199 see. I see the bus players that live in five point fifty walking downtown 87 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:51.519 all the time. That's different though. I guess my thing is if you're 88 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:55.600 walking talking about this, but if you walk, it's I think it's like 89 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:59.279 night time. I would think it's nighttime. No, that could have been 90 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:03.360 the daytime. Don't know what it was. And Robert Williams is out for 91 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:07.519 the rest of the season with the knee injury. And I'm not gonna say 92 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:13.480 this to say ha ha with all those fans in Boston that was crying about 93 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:18.079 Robert Williams getting traded, You dodged a bullet. And I'm not saying that 94 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.800 to be like a jerk. But he's always known to be injury prone. 95 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:24.480 He does like last year, I think he was out for most majority of 96 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:26.759 the year because he got hurt. I think it was knee issues, so 97 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:31.279 that's probably one of the reasons why they traded on. And just just just 98 00:08:31.320 --> 00:08:35.799 to add to this, because you brought it up. My fantasy team, 99 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:41.480 Kyrie Irvin, Kyrese Halliburton, Kawhi, Leonard, Michael Porter, Junior, 100 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:46.480 Miles Turner, Aaron Gordon picked him up off the waiver wires, LaMelo Ball, 101 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:54.519 Drew Holliday, Jalen Johnson, Clint Capella, and Tyler Hero who's on 102 00:08:54.559 --> 00:09:00.399 my injury reserve. So I dropped your boy from Brooklyn cam Thomas because he's 103 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:03.039 been on the injury list since we started and he was one of my only 104 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:07.919 bigs. So I picked up Aaron Gordon as a result. Who thank you? 105 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:09.559 Keep doing Thank you, bro. I can see if you do it 106 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:13.639 for somebody. And I'm winning five to six right six to five right now, 107 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:20.080 and in the league this is our third week I am and sixth place. 108 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:24.519 So your lineup is trash and you're in six place. Cool, but 109 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:28.600 the top eight make the playoffs with your line rash trash. Okay, Well, 110 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:33.679 when I went the pot at the end of the season, you hope 111 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:39.399 you get your money back. I mean, man, could you just said 112 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:43.000 you was in the rears. You just said, have you lost the last 113 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:46.639 three years? Yeah? But you know, hey, I hope you get 114 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.960 your money back. I'm the commissioner of the league. And okay, I 115 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:54.000 can't know that I know what that means. You know that means? What 116 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:56.720 does that mean? Hey, I'm just saying I know what that means. 117 00:09:56.720 --> 00:09:58.399 You wouldn't have said if I know, we know what that means. Anyways, 118 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:03.240 you said Cam Thomas is one of your what he dropped? I dropped 119 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:07.279 him why because he was on the injured Listen what position you had him at? 120 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:13.240 He was a forward slash center. What Yeah, y'all had to think 121 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:15.480 about it for a second. I'm sending here to contemplated for a minute. 122 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:18.879 Keeps saying big Cam Thomas is a guard. He's a shooting guard slash all 123 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:26.559 forward. Play Oh my god, jeez, that was right. He's a 124 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:33.559 forward. Cam Johnson is a forward. You're saying forward big in fantasy basketball, 125 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:41.559 CA's Cameron Johnson, Cam Johnson. Cameron Johnson is the same thing Thomas. 126 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:56.000 I said, Cam fans, Okay, that's a good I thought, 127 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:01.039 we like I'm sitting here, think like man. No, So in the 128 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:07.240 beginning I read Cam Johnson I didn't say Thomas because you've been saying Thomas the 129 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:11.639 whole time, have I Yes, that's why. That's like, why did 130 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:15.519 you drop me a bucket? That's why I keep saying Cam, Cam Johnson. 131 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:18.159 I thought you were saying who, like like your normal would be like, 132 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:22.360 uh, Maurice Williams or Williams, Cam Thomas is a walking bucket. 133 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:30.279 Okay, well Cameron john but I'm thinking I'm thinking of my head like Johnson 134 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:35.559 play what made me really think about he just played when the bucks played in 135 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:39.080 my head like something? Okay, I thought that was weird too, but 136 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:41.879 I am. I was like I had it in my mind because I just 137 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.200 literally dropped him. So I'm looking like Cam Thomas. But but Cam Johnson 138 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:50.679 has been out that's why John Yes, yeah he's and yes I dropped him. 139 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:58.720 So that was hilarious. Wow, No, because we all thinking different 140 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:03.159 things. We are we are you keep saying it keeps like who. I'm 141 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:07.080 like, why do you keep doing that? Knowing he a bucket but keep 142 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:11.759 saying a big And I'm like camp because you know when you talk fantasy sports, 143 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.840 well, you know, when you talk fantasy sports, bigs are forwards 144 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.000 and center and you know what's funny because the thing about it is its Cam 145 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:24.799 Thompson. Cameron Johnson is different. But I see how you shortened it up 146 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.799 like Cam Johnson. I'm like, yeah, I'm thinking okay, And the 147 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:33.879 whole time I did, I'm not to go back and listen, I thought, 148 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:39.840 don't worry about post. As long as you post the one about the 149 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.039 UH, you can post that chick. So you know what I'm saying. 150 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:46.120 You want to post comments, you know what I'm saying, as long as 151 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:50.639 you post the ones about standing remote. Anyways, anyways, let's get to 152 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:54.799 some basketball, man. So now you move around to our Shaking the shoot 153 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:58.240 around where we talk about news and rumors and stuff going on around in the 154 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:03.879 n b a UH our first recap of the season. UH. Last week 155 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:09.240 we discussed Andre Ingendala becoming the first Battle Hall of Famer. Y'all said no, 156 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:13.279 I said yes, and his comparison to Kawhi Leonard, and then we 157 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:20.360 went into a conversation about Hall of Famers and finding out surprisingly players like Robert 158 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:24.000 big Shot rob Or is not in the Hall of Fame. And I posed 159 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:26.879 a question, in your opinion, who does not deserve to be in the 160 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:33.039 Hall of Fame. I'm gonna go ahead and start this thing off because I 161 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:35.799 brought it back and as a recap, and I already got some people. 162 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:46.799 I'm slowly disgusted with Bloody Diva. Why did a great career? Right? 163 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:50.919 Let me championships? He played with the Lakers. He probably has how many 164 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:54.279 championships? Okay, but let me ask you this then before we go any 165 00:13:54.320 --> 00:14:00.639 further this conversation. Charles Barkley is a Hall of Famer, right, that's 166 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:05.320 different? No, not why Charles Barkley is a Hall of Famer. But 167 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:11.120 he had all NBA teams, all all star teams like he had what small 168 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:13.320 star seasons? Go ahead, look at it. You look at it right 169 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:18.639 now. Blod Deva was fifth man at best on your team, Bloody de 170 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:22.480 Vac, Do you not remember Bloty was he was? He was an originator 171 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:26.240 of the passing bigs. You're you're thinking about Bloody at the end of his 172 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:30.759 career, about Bloody from the beginning to the end. You're talking about him 173 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:33.679 when he was in Sacramento. You forget about the talking about when he was 174 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:39.080 in Lakers. You forget about the Sacramento days. What about him him? 175 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:45.759 Do you not remember him and Chris Webber. And speaking of Chris Webber, 176 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:50.639 he's on that list too. Why iss Robert Weber here? Why is Chris 177 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:56.120 Weber here? Why here? I'm trying to question your fan. I'll say 178 00:14:56.120 --> 00:15:05.279 this. I'll say this. I when you look at Vlotti's stats, Zeke 179 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:11.600 isn't completely wrong. Vlotti did not win any championships in his career. His 180 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:20.240 stats were very mediocre at best. I mean, well, heats per game, 181 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:30.320 points per game eight point five, how many rebounds six? So I'm 182 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:33.960 just gonna go through the top two eight point five, six point two his 183 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:37.120 first year with the Lakers, eleven point two, eight point one, eleven 184 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:39.039 point three, six point nine, twelve point eight, eight point nine, 185 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:46.240 fourteen. Well, eh so I think this is this could be literally one 186 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:50.399 of those toss ups because fifty percent of his career he averaged a double up 187 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:56.159 hold on take away average. What is what are his accomplishments. I'm talking 188 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:58.759 about NBA All Star Games, I'm talking about NBA All Team I'm talking about 189 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:03.960 uh, I don't even know if he makes top seventy five. Why why 190 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:07.320 is he in the Hall of Fame? Well, you have to remember the 191 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:11.080 sad Tony Cook coach being there, I was gonna go down the list. 192 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:14.200 Let me hold second, Let me finish my list. I got a list, 193 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:15.559 Ben Wallace, let me finish my list. Can I go? And 194 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:19.399 I know he didn't average over six? Can I finish my list? Hold 195 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:23.320 on second, let me I'll answer you a question. You gotta remember, 196 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:27.320 though, bro, this is not the NBA Hall of Fame. We're just 197 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:32.559 judging their NBA. This is the NBA Hall of Fame. No, he's 198 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:36.240 a Hall of Famer, but it's the NBA doesn't own the hall of fame. 199 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:37.240 What do you mean the NBA does a Hall of fame. It's the 200 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:44.039 Basketball Hall of Fame's gardless the world Basketball Hall of Fame. Okay, hold 201 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:45.039 on, say it's a world thing. Come on, I get that. 202 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:48.840 I get that. Why is he in the Hall of fame? He's a 203 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:52.440 great European player, great European player, it's not just hold on second. 204 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:56.480 Did he get drafted to the NBA? Yes? Did he play overseas? 205 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:00.440 Because my thing is this, if we're if we're doing that, is we're 206 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:04.680 if we're because y'all trying to make excuses here because you're talking about well, 207 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:10.000 Lottie DIVI, did you know I'm not saying he should be there. I'm 208 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:12.440 not saying that at all. I'm saying, this is my list of players 209 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:18.359 who should not be there. And when i'm I'm starting off, your your 210 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:21.400 other thing. So why should he be there? He had a decent career. 211 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:26.160 Robert Orry didn't. No, Robert Order played for nineteen teams with six 212 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:30.920 should not be a Hall of Famer just because he's a big shot. You 213 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:33.480 are, and there's games with Robert Horrid didn't even play. Are you telling 214 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:37.880 me? Because so you're saying Lady Devis should be there and big Robert or 215 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:42.680 should neither should be there in my opinion. Okay, so uh now we're 216 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:48.079 finna get into you know we y'all, y'all done fighting for the bloody Diva. 217 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:51.480 You didn't fight for Bloody. You didn't see a big shot Rob. 218 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:53.480 Should big shot Rob in Hall of Fame? To you? He said, 219 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:56.680 no, no, he should not. I think he should. But you 220 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:00.759 also called it, what's that boy Andrea? No, no, no, 221 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:04.039 no, no no, what's that man that played for Memphis all those years? 222 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:08.000 I didn't say Mike Connelly should be Mike Conley And in the Utah Jazz 223 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:11.960 or something, and that I said. What I said was he was probably 224 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:15.640 one of the Yeah, yeah, I said that, And y'all just went 225 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:19.920 in on that because you're giving him top billing over John Morant. He gave 226 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:23.799 him top villing. There's a reason. There was context behind me just saying 227 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:29.000 there was There was context behind that. It was context me saying Cam Johnson 228 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:32.240 too. But it's yeah, you were wrong, that's the context exactly. 229 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:37.960 That's the point I'm making is this, like the whole the whole run back 230 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:41.359 was who are these people that should not be in the Hall of Fame? 231 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:45.279 When did you start becoming the root for the little guy? Because don't know 232 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:48.200 you are. No, I'm not rue for the little guy. I'm ruthe 233 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:52.480 for No, I'm rute for people besides Steph Curry, Lebron, James, 234 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:55.920 those are given. Those are no no no, no, no no no. 235 00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:00.039 Because if I don't mention their names, then you like who if I 236 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:03.480 say, if I say Giannis, if I don't say three names, Jannis, 237 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:07.200 Lebron, James, Stu Curtin is who who are you talking about? 238 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:12.079 He ain't doing but you're talking about Lotti Diva. I didn't fight for blody, 239 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:15.519 I said, argument could. I watched a lot of basketball growing up, 240 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:22.440 watched and I've seen Blotti play. Had a very good career he had, 241 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:26.119 He had a decent career. He had a decent career as bad. 242 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:30.039 Don't mean you did anything that's over the top. You know what that means. 243 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.240 You know what that means. That means you were part of a You 244 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:38.640 are a a big part of a team. Now what that team did that 245 00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:42.480 has a reflection on you. So when we talk about Robert or and him 246 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:45.519 being big shot rob he got that name for a reason. So the fact 247 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:48.160 that he's not in the Hall of Fame, I'm like, what was really 248 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:52.119 going on here? What made me go back to question? Like, hold 249 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:55.480 on second, dear, we talk about a four time champ, can't be 250 00:19:55.559 --> 00:20:02.200 a Hall of Famer, no jiggy And then and then my thing is if 251 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:07.039 I say Draymond Green, oh were talking about this Hall of Fame automatically he 252 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:11.119 did. He's a two time defensive point. First of all, I don't 253 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:18.880 talk like that WOA. Anyway, The point I'm thinking it is, I 254 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:22.000 don't know what you got here when you're talking about him having like mediocre careers, 255 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:26.640 like, it's a lot of people who have mediocre careers that's in the 256 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:30.599 Hall of Fame. That's not in the Hall of Fame too. But again, 257 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:33.440 you guys have to remember, it's not just NBA, it's college. 258 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:37.160 I know, I get that, but he doesn't. I do get that. 259 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:41.319 I'm talking about NBA players who are in there. So when I'm not 260 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:45.799 saying that the Hall of Fame is strictly for the NBA, I get that 261 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:48.759 they have teams in here for the Hall of Fame. They have Tennessee A 262 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:52.119 and I team of fifty seven and fifty nine here has a Hall of Fame. 263 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:56.480 So I'm not just talking about NBA players. I'm just talking about the 264 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:00.880 Hall of Fame in general. Why is bloody he bt there? Okay, 265 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:04.079 you don't have agree, So give me, give me, give me a 266 00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:10.240 player who should take his position. He was one of the first. He 267 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:14.359 was one of the first foreign players that came into the NBA. That's it. 268 00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:19.240 He wasn't the first, he was the first. He had He averaged 269 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:25.279 almost a double double his entire career. Yeah, fifth and fifth, we 270 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:29.640 all be drunk. He played on arguably one of the greatest franchises well, 271 00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:33.200 no arguing the greatest franchise ever, one of the greatest franchise. Yes, 272 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:36.400 he was a part. He was to the finals, lost to Mike of 273 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:41.000 course. Okay, and then he reinvented himself when he went to Sacramento. 274 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:45.599 No, seriously, when he yeah, yeah, hold on second, when 275 00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:48.640 people traded him the sack, they thought that was the end of his career. 276 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:52.960 Come out. Now here's the thing, A little bit that I get 277 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:59.640 that did they win it? You have to also remember did they win it? 278 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:03.440 Listen, it's just another question. He's a gold medal winner. He's 279 00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:10.119 a gold medal winner the Olympics. No, in the Olympics, right, 280 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:18.759 the Olympics, He's not I think he. I think he's from Kesey. 281 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:22.960 Where that man from? He's it on now, Terres, if you watch 282 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:23.400 it? Man, where are you from? Bro? I know you, 283 00:22:23.480 --> 00:22:27.279 loyal Terrors? Where you Where are you from? Bro? My man? 284 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:34.720 Just text me Yugoslavia. They won the silver medal and the eighty eight Olympics. 285 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:41.880 He won a gold medal in nineteen ninety and two thousand two World Championships, 286 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:48.640 accompanied by a gold in eighty nine and ninety one in European championships. 287 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:56.519 He recorded more than thirteen thousand points, nine thousand rebounds, three thousand assists, 288 00:22:56.920 --> 00:23:03.720 sixteen hundred block shots, twelve hundred steals. To Kesey's point, shout 289 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:06.559 out to Big T for hooking this up with this that hold up. To 290 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:11.640 Kesey's point, one of the best international European players to be brought into the 291 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:18.799 NBA. Bloody is absolutely a Hall of Famer over Robert or real Quick. 292 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:22.759 So first of all, I said that already, I said, thanks to 293 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:27.519 appreciate that. What do you do here? It's not what are you here? 294 00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:33.000 So can I say this? Stop screaming? You're over Modu lady. 295 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:38.319 So the way you should ask the question is based on their NBA career? 296 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:42.160 Should they be in? What do you do here? Same thing? So 297 00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:47.000 so no, so preface it did because you got America thinking that these people 298 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:49.079 shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame, but they should. So ask the 299 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:55.000 question differently based on their NBA career. Should they be in the Hall of 300 00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:57.839 Fame? Based on the NBA career? Should they? Yes? Because he 301 00:23:57.920 --> 00:24:03.880 did all that Olympics stuf. Who he did all that you know, all 302 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:07.160 that Olympic stuff. Do y'all have a player? Do you have a player? 303 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:11.200 No? No, no, no, Because this is my thing. 304 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:15.160 My list gonna get real controversial. That's okay, and I'm cool. We've 305 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.960 got time. My thing is this. Do y'all have a list? Do 306 00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:21.880 y'all have a list? I'm asking y'all, do y'all have a listen? 307 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:25.960 This was your this was your concept of my concept. It was I brought 308 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:29.079 to the table. Who shouldn't be Go ahead, go down your list. 309 00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:30.519 That's the only person you got. No, it's not who person I'm asking 310 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:33.759 y'all. Do y'all have to be fighting hard for Andre. I'm not fighting 311 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:37.160 hard for Andre. I'm just talking about people I didn't think you should be 312 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:42.160 on the list. Keep going. Who's the next person? Bloody, Tony 313 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:47.880 Coco, Tony Kuk again? No, I let Tony. Tony has to 314 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:52.480 ride because gotta ride, because because my listening to get real controversial. Already 315 00:24:53.200 --> 00:25:00.400 it's co coach or out. He's on the border for me. Are you 316 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:10.640 already hate this list? Right? Grand Hill? That's controversial. That's not 317 00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:14.759 controversial. I feel why he said that, But go ahead, and I'll 318 00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:18.119 give my rational go ahead. Hill did play good. Some of the years 319 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:22.720 he did play, but he was injured a lot, so I think that 320 00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:30.039 should be held against him at some point. Grant Hill is only in there 321 00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:34.640 for his Duke days. That's it. Hey, he's only in there for 322 00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:41.519 Duke. He's only in there for Duke Nbaker. If if he judge him 323 00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:44.599 on the Nbaker, he wouldn't be there. I feel like I feel like 324 00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:47.039 grand Hills should have, would have, could have. Like he one of 325 00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:48.599 these guys. Man, if he didn't get injured, he'd be this and 326 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:52.920 that. He changed college game though, he could change the game and he 327 00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:56.559 would just hate it because he went to Due. Christ is terrible me. 328 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:00.400 He not on this list, but shouldn't. He's done all in not in 329 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:03.799 the Hall of Fame. Hill is arguable, it's it's debatable, but if 330 00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:07.440 I had a vote, he wouldn't give my vote for Hall of Fame? 331 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:10.599 Are you ready for the next one? Would Grant gets your vote for Hall 332 00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:15.359 of Fame? Because these are zekes is saying no to all these people, 333 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.720 the people, so he's already voted. So now he's asking you, does 334 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.680 Grant he'll get your vote for Hall of Fame? Yes or no? No? 335 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:26.079 You ready? Because he's gonna say, yeah, go ahead, McGrady. 336 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:30.720 No. Now, Now, when you say, what has a player 337 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:37.920 done other than thirteen points in nine seconds and explosive dunks, what has he 338 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:41.680 done? And I stand by that, and I've said that in the four 339 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:47.960 year history of this podcast. Tracy McGrady, in my opinion, explosive, 340 00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:53.160 but one of the most overrated. I'm not gonna say overrated, but people 341 00:26:53.279 --> 00:27:00.200 give him a pass for everything other than excitement and being explosive. You can 342 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:02.799 almost compare his career to Green Hill because he was hurt a lot too, 343 00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:06.039 a lot better than Grey Hills. He was hurt a lot too. He 344 00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:07.440 was hurt, but not as much as Grand Hill. And go back and 345 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:11.680 look at Tracy McGrady. Kobe Bryant to tell you right now if he was 346 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.839 allowed to rushing peace to the Mamba, Tracy McGrady was one of the hardest 347 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:21.720 players he ever had to guard. No, Tracy McGrady, This is coming 348 00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:26.119 from the Mamba's mouth. Tracy McGrady was one of the hardest players he ever 349 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:33.799 had to guards. He's sixteen playing the point guard position. Yes, no, 350 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:40.000 I say no, Look at stats up. I mean, Tracy McGrady. 351 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:44.279 Stats are incredible. And I tell you this right now, he has 352 00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:48.519 a ring too. Wray McGrady. What's he on that team? Yeah, 353 00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:53.960 but I'll tell you this though, that the year he scored like nineteen points 354 00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:59.759 in like thirteen seconds, they win a championship. Y'all don't get hurt that 355 00:27:59.880 --> 00:28:08.079 year. Remember y'all did something with his foot he can never got and that 356 00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:15.160 after that, Tracey McGrady was never able to find that team that could get 357 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.119 him over the hump again. This would have been dope for one of our 358 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:23.400 live episodes to let audience members weigh in. Hey, because people, the 359 00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:29.559 beauty in basketball is in the eye of the beholder. Like as much as 360 00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:32.000 we talk sports man, we don't agree with a lot. I don't know 361 00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:36.119 if y'all noticed that when it comes to basketball, we don't agree on I'm 362 00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:37.799 not saying that that's bad. I'm just saying that we have very all of 363 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.160 us grew up on basketball in the world. Y'all obviously played basketball, that's 364 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:48.519 the world, but we have very different views of this sport. This was 365 00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:57.319 a little controversial, I'll say though. Absolutely a Hall of famer, he 366 00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:02.640 globalized the game of the n b A. He was actually other than Michael 367 00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:06.480 Jordan. He was the first player to make the game. Here's my thing, 368 00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:08.119 Here's my thing. I was going back and forth with this, Yes, 369 00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:11.359 is he has he globalized the game? And then has he do we 370 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:17.039 got Chinese people coming in by the tons. Yes he does. But at 371 00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:21.240 the end of the Killer Killer, y'all was a killer or was he an 372 00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:29.039 international superstar? Y'all was was in so he did. If y'all didn't have 373 00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:33.960 those foot problems, he was unguardable. But he did. He was here, 374 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.359 but he did, but he did. He changed the game, man, 375 00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.519 So you're saying, yeah, he changed. He changed a part of 376 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.039 the game because I know where Drake coming from changed. This is coming from 377 00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.480 a business. Ac change a part of the game is coming from a business. 378 00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:49.799 You also got to like. But like you like he said, you 379 00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:52.359 know where you were coming from. Like he said before, it's not just 380 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:56.880 about n b A. Y'all mean changed going back, I get it for 381 00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:03.079 an international business perspective, I get that. I'm saying. I'm saying y'all 382 00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:08.000 mean wasn't dominant as he could have should have been. Bro y'all mean played 383 00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:12.400 two, four, six, eight ten seasons and average nearly a double double, 384 00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.039 every single spent double double. I'm not to give it to you. 385 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:22.640 His first year he averaged thirteen and nine, arranged thirteen and nine, seventeen 386 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:26.160 and nine. You can't do that. Eighteen and nine, listen, eighteen 387 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:30.519 and nine, I don't appreciate that. Twenty to ten, twenty five and 388 00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.160 ten, twenty two and ten, twenty and ten. Come on, bro 389 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.920 right, come on, bro, y'all mean changing. And even when he 390 00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:42.480 got hurt in that ten eleven year, he still put up ten points eight 391 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:48.960 assists a game and only played average eighteen minutes. Okay, you ready for 392 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.839 the next one? Your disrespect to foreign players? Are you ready for the 393 00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:57.480 next one? Yes? Just tell me this though. Yes, is there 394 00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:03.119 a generally lamb without y'all in his career. I'm not saying here to open 395 00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:07.319 the gates. Yeah, I'm not saying the game. He opened up a 396 00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:12.440 new gateway for people from trying to come over. In fact, our NBA 397 00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:18.920 didn't start allowing international All Star voting until y'all Meen came into the league. 398 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.359 That's how he became an All Star for China. Yeah. Yeah, yes, 399 00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:27.759 he would have been All Star regardless because he was Remember they were booking. 400 00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:30.519 Was it No, I thought it was, y'all. It would take 401 00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:34.319 somebody like you to be disrespectful to someone who has contributed to the game. 402 00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:41.039 Respects us. Are you ready for the next one? Yes? Yes, 403 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:56.039 did Kim Dumbo? Mhmm? Did Kimb Dumbo? Mhm? What did you 404 00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:00.720 say? What do you have to say it? Then that voice? I 405 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.240 just wanted to know, did you have any problem with this? So remember 406 00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:08.039 last week you told me that was a terrible that way spot on? That 407 00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:14.480 is that is spinal I might would be in my movie that is spot On? 408 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:25.480 Uh is the I get? That's good? B I k E m 409 00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:31.119 b E is m U t o m b o. So the other part 410 00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:36.279 you have to remember is I don't know and I need to research a little 411 00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:38.920 more. Does the n b A take in I would think they do, 412 00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:44.640 and they take into consideration their humanitarians. So here's the same question. Yes, 413 00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:46.319 I know what you say. I'm gonna answer your question. I think 414 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:52.599 the NBA consideration all their totality, even after their career. I think that 415 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:58.480 why brother, y'all think so or not? Y'all meano like guys like that. 416 00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:06.119 I'm just using example that their after career after basketball career system on the 417 00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:13.200 plateau of so listen to there is a listen to this. You're ready. 418 00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:22.880 Eight time NBA All Star, three time All Defensive First Team first Team or 419 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:30.559 winner first Team. Listen. Three time All Defensive second Team, four time 420 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:34.720 Defensive Player of the Year. In fact, he won it three years in 421 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.880 a row. I'm sorry he won it ninety five, ninety seven, ninety 422 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:42.559 eight, two thousand and one. Okay. Two time NBA rebounding leader, 423 00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:49.720 three time NBA block shot leader, first team All Big East, second Team 424 00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:54.240 All Big East, two time Big East Defensive Player of the Year. The 425 00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:59.039 Ken bads a Hall of Famer bro on top of physic Hall of Famer, 426 00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:02.720 on top of I know, but Hall of Famer, his humanitarians stuff, 427 00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:15.519 Hall of Famer, Yes, hands down. Uh, you're ready for my 428 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:22.079 next question. Controversial, Let's go Tim Hardawa. Uh. See that that's 429 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:28.639 one that I'm not so sure about. Tim Hardaway Senior is a Hall of 430 00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:37.400 Famer. Why Timmy hit him with the Timmy mm hmm. Timmy brought that 431 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:42.119 in the league push, He changed the game. He's a game changer. 432 00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:45.840 Off of that, do I think about that? It was cool until we 433 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:52.559 see all ion because he was he was quicker, and he learned. Everybody 434 00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:54.320 learned it from Timmy. I'm saying, I look, first of all, 435 00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:58.000 Tim and Hardaway, and I said, they said they did. There's two 436 00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:01.119 different ways. But my thing is Tim Hardaway, what did he do? 437 00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.440 See? I know where you're coming from, and I get it. We 438 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:10.639 grew up on these Negroes. I get it. We grew up on that 439 00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:15.559 because they are they not African Americans, I said, Negroes. So so 440 00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.639 you hit them with the Timmy, why you get to the lane? I 441 00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.760 am saying, what did he do? Five time NBA All Stars, Okay, 442 00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:28.559 All NBA First Team, one one time All NBA Second Team, three 443 00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:37.960 times NBA All Okay, w A c Player of the Year. College. 444 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:42.480 I want to brother college stuff. I want NBA I want I would like 445 00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:45.800 to take NBA stas I can name. That's it. I can name ten 446 00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:50.360 guards better than Tim Hardaway who don't do that. Don't do that. Dwayne 447 00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:52.519 Wade is in the Hall of Fame though it don't matter. It's still name 448 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:54.119 ten guards. But you're talking about ten guards that didn't they get to the 449 00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:58.320 Hall of Fame. Well, that would take some That'll take a little bit 450 00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:01.599 of homework. But Tim Hardaway, if I had to vote, he's a 451 00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:05.280 No, he's okay, I'll give you one that's not in the Hall of 452 00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:07.639 Fame. I know what you're gonna say, but go ahead. Rod Strickland. 453 00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:12.559 Ros Strickland is my man's like Rod Strickland is that business? Are you 454 00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:15.039 arguing that he's a Hall of Famer. I'm not saying he's a Hall of 455 00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:16.159 Famer. I'm just saying he's he's in the same to me, in the 456 00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:20.480 same categories, in similar way. But I was why one in the Hall 457 00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.519 of Fame? One is? But I wasn't going to say who are you 458 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.760 gonna say? I'm sorry, go ahead, but how many time you going 459 00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:35.280 to rugby? I'm sorry. Chauncy Phillips, Oh no, no, No, 460 00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:40.360 Chauncey is a champion. Chace is a champion. Choice is a champion. 461 00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:44.000 He's not in the Hall of Fame. I know he should be. 462 00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:49.280 I think I think he's not eligible yet. He should be. He should 463 00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:51.880 be, But I'm just I don't know if he's way than them as eligible. 464 00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:55.320 He had draft after them, right, No, when did Tim Hardaway 465 00:36:55.320 --> 00:37:00.119 get into the Hall of Fame. He got into the Hall of Fame in 466 00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:04.880 years. It had to be recent. He wasn't a Hall of Famer. 467 00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:06.719 He was. He got in a Hall of Fame. It is recent. 468 00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:10.760 I'll give twenty twenty two. I'll give you another old school player who Terry 469 00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:17.400 Porter? Terry Wor should he played shadow to Clyde Drexler bro He should not 470 00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:22.000 be all Terry Porter? Was that deal he was? I don't know. 471 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:25.079 If here's one to go back to Tracy McGrady. If Tracy McGrady is a 472 00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:30.360 Hall of Famer, Sean Kit should be a Hall of Famer and he shouldn't 473 00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.519 be exactly. I'll ask you one point. I'll give you another one that 474 00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:38.239 should be a Hall of Famer. You tell me Sean Marion. Yeah, 475 00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:45.000 so Sean Mary is very interesting. He same person. He's not a Hall 476 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.440 of Famer. But he's a little bit better than Iggy. But he's not 477 00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:52.000 a Hall of Famer. He's ugly form. He's in the Phoenix Sun's Hall 478 00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:53.840 of Fame. But do I think he should be in the Hall of Fame. 479 00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:55.960 I think there's a case for him not to be in there. The 480 00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:58.880 case for him I was the case not for him to be there. Give 481 00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:01.039 me one reason why he shouldn't be. He ain't did nothing. He was 482 00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:06.119 a good he was he was the third. He was the third fourth bass 483 00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:10.639 player on your team at that Okay, am I line, he's hey, 484 00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:17.440 both teams Dallas Phoenix, Dallas Phoenix, I mean, and Phoenix was stacked. 485 00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.960 And to be honest with you, he made a good comparison. He's 486 00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:27.480 iggy. He next place, but I got caliber. I got two more 487 00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:30.159 one of them. Y'a don't know if y'all are gonna know his names. 488 00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:37.079 I'm gonna save him lines on morning. Yeah, yeah, you kidding me. 489 00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:43.679 So there's no need to look him up. Charlotte Hornets, look him? 490 00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:53.119 Uh you you tripping hard? You show that's water. That's besides the 491 00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:59.480 point. Look him up. Look about Brozzo morning. I don't want to 492 00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:00.639 hear a stand. I don't want to hear that. I want to hear 493 00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:06.000 his accomplishment. Not only is I want to hear his accomplishment. I get 494 00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:10.880 it, double double might give that. Okay, NBA champion he won with 495 00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.519 Shaq, didn't He came off the bench and gave him a much need to 496 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:19.800 push because Shaq wasn't great that year. I just want to put that out 497 00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:23.320 there. Seven time NBA All Star, NBA All First Team, NBA All 498 00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:28.159 Second Team, how many times? Once? Two time Defensive Player of the 499 00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:32.079 Year, back to back NBA All Defensive First Team, two time NBA Blocks 500 00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:37.280 Leader, All Rookie Team, the Citizenship Award number retired by the Miami Heat. 501 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:45.320 He was an All American for three straight years, two time First Team 502 00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:50.880 Biggiees. But you don't want to hear high dominated in college? Alonzo morning 503 00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:58.920 is ask your question? That's the question? Real quick interrupt today. So 504 00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:00.519 let me ask you a question. If he didn't win the NBA Championship, 505 00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:06.480 are you still putting them on the Hall of Fame? Absolutely? If he 506 00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:12.679 didn't win the championship in the Hall of Fame, our fans are texting me 507 00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:15.519 multiple ones saying, don't text Dre, hit the chat, text me, 508 00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:21.639 hit up on the face tex, text me tell him tell hey, hey, 509 00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:24.199 why are you loyal to this show? Ego? I don't need my 510 00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:32.079 show on Instagram? Tell him a duel, Tom, Chris, you know 511 00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:36.920 you want to go there? You know what I'm saying. Anyway, ever 512 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:43.880 comfort anyway what me? Anyways, don't boot Dre, Ego will hit the 513 00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:46.599 show up the show. I'm a humble Are you ready for the next one? 514 00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:51.360 Yeah? Are you ready for the next one? Tripping to everybody your 515 00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:59.719 last one? Come on, Mitch Richmond lights out? Jeez, yes, 516 00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:06.480 yes, how Mitch belongs there? You sure? Yeah? Chicken stats, 517 00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.440 clicking stats, not even his stats. Accomplishments. I don't have those stats. 518 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:14.840 Onlybody accomplish all for like four or five years. I don't think you 519 00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:20.039 made it. Twice led the league in three point percent of shooting them maybe 520 00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:23.159 three or four years straight. So he's a lights off shooter. Every lights 521 00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:28.440 off shooter shouldn't be a Hall of Famer. I know, really, I 522 00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:34.280 was a champion NBA champion, Mitch, yeah, two thousand and two. 523 00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:37.159 I wanted him with the Lakers, right, and the Lakers. No. 524 00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.320 Two thousand and two had to be with Miami with Shaq. No, it 525 00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:47.360 says Mitch Richmond. NBA series the best seven playoffs was between the Los Angeles 526 00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:52.480 Lakers and the New Jersey next the Lakers all the Lakers, all right, 527 00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:57.559 Mitch was on that team. So the Lakers. So these are some of 528 00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:01.800 his stats you want to, I said, not accomplishment. Six time NBA 529 00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:09.119 All Star, All Star, MVP, A ninety five, three time NBAS 530 00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:15.280 All Second Team, Second two Thai NBA All Third Team, Rookie of the 531 00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:21.360 Year, Rookie of the Year, All Rookie Team, All American in eighty 532 00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:24.800 eight. All right, that's stop you over twenty thousand career points. I'm 533 00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:28.119 not deaf. Are you doing? I know? Are you doing? NBA? 534 00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:32.320 You're NBA stats, NBA twenty thousand NBA career points. That's not accomplishment 535 00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:38.719 for thirty eight hundred rebounds. You don't even got one. So clearly it's 536 00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:44.840 a hard accomplishment than you can attack. Oh my god, I promise y'all, 537 00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:46.519 we really do love each other on this show. This is all for 538 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:52.039 TV, so please don't take this. It's a Hall of famer. Like 539 00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:53.920 I said before, so who would. But my question is who do you 540 00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:58.039 replace these players with? If I, like I said, so like who? 541 00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:00.280 I don't have a list of players my hope under this conversation. The 542 00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:07.000 conversation was medalist. The whole point of this conversation was team he wasn't he 543 00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:10.519 was on the redeemed team. Mitch. No, I don't know that Mitch 544 00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:16.559 has a gold medal. You're just saying stuffs dropped I didn't see that under 545 00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:22.559 his career status stuff. My thing is as far as hall of Fame as 546 00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:27.840 my as my my point is always like we should really think about who needs 547 00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:31.960 to be in the Hall of Fame and what the category who should be who 548 00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:36.400 should be in the Hall of Fame? What categories put you in the Hall 549 00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:39.000 of fame. I know a couple of play I know, I know some 550 00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:40.960 pleasure should be in the Hall of Fame. And that's what I'm saying. 551 00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:44.000 You named, you just named. I ain't gonna lie that you named a 552 00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:45.519 couple of people who should be in the Hall of Fame, and so the 553 00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.440 fact that they're not, it's just like, why are these people in the 554 00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:53.199 Hall of Fame? But I think and uh, honorable mention and Chris Webber 555 00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:59.320 so like I feel like if Chris Rebber didn't have the scandal, he would 556 00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:02.519 be You have to remember the scandal and then all start when you talk about 557 00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:07.880 when talking about let's say, you say, let's say five oh fab five 558 00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:14.639 scandal with the because remember that's just my one to get back remember man the 559 00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:20.280 booster situation and they said he snitched on the booster Michigan took his jersey down. 560 00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.199 They took Oh man, have you ever watched the Fat five? Check 561 00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:27.239 out the fact had never seen it? Check out the Fat five. Chris 562 00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:34.119 Webber couldn't even be included in it because of legal ramifications and stemming the problem. 563 00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:37.519 Well, they they're better now, but they couldn't legally. He didn't 564 00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:39.800 want to give he didn't want to give a statement. Well, he didn't 565 00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:43.440 want to give a statement. But it's one of those things where he this 566 00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:49.360 jersey back up there now, no, no, no, But they dogged 567 00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.920 him. I'm sorry they you've never seen a Fab five? Oh you should 568 00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:57.239 watch me. They doogged him in there. Many you were too kind to 569 00:44:57.320 --> 00:44:59.960 him, Misty Jalen Row. So here's the thing about the Fab five situation. 570 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:02.679 I think it was very it was it was still uh, I don't 571 00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:07.400 say early fresh. It was still fresh. So when you're talking to four 572 00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.519 out of the I've seen I've seen the thirty for thirty on the Fat five, 573 00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:15.119 that's what you're talking about. Remember that I don't remember that member must 574 00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.760 be off today, but I just still retired when that I know he was 575 00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.679 a commentator. He was still fresh though, So like when you came out 576 00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:28.119 before he was he was a commentator, I'm saying thirty for thirty came out 577 00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.440 when he was all retired. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Couple like 578 00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:32.800 what I'm saying, I'm saying that from a from a standpoint that it's not 579 00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:37.800 that fresh. But Chris Reber f the Fab five. I'm saying, if 580 00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:42.639 you never talked to somebody about something like a very Let's say you and your 581 00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:45.000 friend got into it and y'all never talked about it, but then somebody be 582 00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:46.960 like, hey man, you still have to due. Man, I don't 583 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:50.760 messing do no more? Da da da? You just going in Or I 584 00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:52.840 don't have nothing bad to say about him, but we just don't deal with 585 00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.239 each other. That that too, But that says values are you what? 586 00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:04.280 But my thing is my thing? Is The whole point of this conversation was 587 00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:07.320 like the Hall of Fame, like we always like we always do, we 588 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:08.880 talking about the Hall of Fame? Who should be in there? Who shouldn't 589 00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:12.679 be in there? Why is this person there? Why is this person isn't 590 00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:15.320 in there? And I just feel like we should, like I said last 591 00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:19.480 week, we should go over the list of people who who should not be 592 00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:21.440 in the Hall of Fame. Who should be in a Hall of fame. 593 00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:28.800 That's all my thing was. So let me just to close it and bring 594 00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:31.840 us back. Yeah, because it's all started with your discussion of is Iggy 595 00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:37.280 a Hall of Fame? You just prove that because all the players you name 596 00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:40.880 Iggy shouldn't be in over none of them players except for maybe green Hill. 597 00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:51.760 And who give me one player you think can replace at least one of those 598 00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:53.079 players on your list. Give me two people you should they should be replaced. 599 00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:59.800 I'm saying two people that can replace the people you said shouldn't be in 600 00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:04.280 there. Oh so Iggy, I think he should place Vide and I think 601 00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:09.360 I think that I'm trying to think of somebody else, because in order to 602 00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:13.159 take those people out, you gotta have somebody you want to replace them with. 603 00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:15.880 Right, I can take out I can. I can see myself taking 604 00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:22.119 out either grand Hill, Trason McGrady and putting in Billips. I can see 605 00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:27.519 that I wouldn't have I don't think it because I don't think you take away 606 00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:30.639 from what Tracy McGrady or grand Hill did for the game, But to give 607 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:34.159 them a Hall of Fame, it's like to me, it's like when Mellow 608 00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:37.480 talked about I don't even know NBA Championship. I got USA medals. Shut 609 00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:43.800 up, shut up. One doesn't replace the other. I'm just saying you 610 00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:45.519 say that, and people that don't have rings are in the Hall of Fame 611 00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:49.760 that had great careers. I'm not saying you need a ring to have a 612 00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:52.920 Hall of Fame. I just feel like eleven All Stars is more of a 613 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:57.400 popularity contest. So you talk about All Star games in particular, that's a 614 00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.199 popularity thing. Okay, then I got a couple two more names for you, 615 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:07.679 and you tell me what you think. Mark Stamaya start not okay, 616 00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:12.480 here's he will be just like he will be. He will be just because 617 00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.039 we didn't that first ballance. What he did in China. What he did 618 00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:19.000 in China was crazy. They have literally a statue out there of him. 619 00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:22.320 What he did in China will put him in the Hall of Fame. This 620 00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:28.960 crazy on Instagram too about the He's very much into social justice, so he 621 00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:31.760 just did a big he went nuts. It wasn't received well, but he 622 00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:37.800 was talking about the conflict with Gaza and Israel, and he made some very 623 00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:42.800 controversial statements about like black lives matter. So he's very much into social justice. 624 00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.239 But if he, if he stays overly political, he won't be in 625 00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:51.280 there either. Kyrie won't be in there. I think, I think, 626 00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:57.440 I think, think about it. Remember, the basketball world is very unforgiven. 627 00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:01.440 Look at road. Yes, the professional sports world is very unforgiving. 628 00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:07.480 I'll tell you another name, Rose, I'll tell you a Ray Lewis. 629 00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:13.239 But wasn't that self defense? That's what they say. But he still shot 630 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:16.960 somebody and killed him. Wasn't it self defense and kill him? Was he 631 00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:20.119 protecting himself? Did you shoot the money and kill him? He did? 632 00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:25.679 But was him yes? Questions. There's a difference though, And I know 633 00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:34.119 there's going He probably not in there because of his antics, saying would metal 634 00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:38.920 world peace? I say, j O, Jermaine Man, he was supposed 635 00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:44.840 to be in there, hidding me. Trash trash, I'm gonna say trash. 636 00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:49.800 Trash is strong, Trash is strong, deserves being there. You want 637 00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:52.280 me to tell you why, why why do you say trash? Give me 638 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:53.400 that reason why? First of all, I said, let me take back 639 00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:58.960 the trash. That was an immediate reaction. I feel like Jermaine O'Neill didn't 640 00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:01.719 live up to the hYP he got hurt. He was very injury and then 641 00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:05.880 later on his grade he got hurt and then he just faded away. Yeah, 642 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.360 I would agree with that. Jermaine o'nill maybe had a I mean he 643 00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:13.360 was he came out of high school phenomenal, maybe a solid. He had 644 00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:16.880 maybe two good years, maybe two good years if that's the case. He 645 00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:21.599 had five in Indiana two three. I said good years. He had five 646 00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:25.079 the years of Indiana two three years. The reason he struggled at the beginning 647 00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:30.159 of his career. Do you know why? He was eighteen and do you 648 00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:37.480 know who they had run our tests? No? No, he was playing 649 00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:42.840 behind Rashid Wallace Indiana. He was in Portland first. Oh, yeah, 650 00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:45.519 he was in Portland first. I forgot about that. That's how bad it. 651 00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:47.440 That's how he got his careers off to a slow start, you know, 652 00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:53.719 because he was playing behind Rashid Wallace. I forgot he had played Beforeland 653 00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:58.079 and he was in Indiana. Does he his first two or three seasons was 654 00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:02.000 rough because he couldn't they could five minutes because Rashid was animal. Then yeah, 655 00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:07.000 and jermaino now probably to get win one. You had about eight or 656 00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:14.039 nine, it's a good season. He averaged ten. He averaged was it 657 00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:19.079 twenty in ten? Could I finish? I'm no, no, because you 658 00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:22.400 finished dance around. No, Drake could be dancing around helped me deal with 659 00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:29.920 likeamn more because I've been like twenty and ten. No, it was fifteen 660 00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:35.599 ten. Almost spit the stats out. I thought I was in India one 661 00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:42.320 one O two nineteen and ten, O two oh three, twenty and ten, 662 00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:47.480 zero three zero four, twenty and ten four five that's three, I 663 00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:53.320 said, twenty and ten, four or five, twenty five and nine five 664 00:51:53.559 --> 00:52:00.159 six, twenty and nine, six seven, nineteen and nine. And then 665 00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:05.639 he started to decline as his age to Colin he had like seven or eight. 666 00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:08.440 He had a couple of injury seasons, and then he was making a 667 00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:14.480 comeback, and then he had the Malice in the Palace. Jermain was a 668 00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:17.159 guy wan on my team. If somebody's coming at me that way, shout 669 00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:23.559 out bodyguard. He has Listen, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get a smoky 670 00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:27.719 Jackson. People say, well, they too, People say all them on 671 00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:30.199 my team. People say what they want to say about the mountains, the 672 00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:35.920 palace. I pay him. But the media, the media did that to 673 00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:42.559 them nor I think conference. When that happened, the media shout out to 674 00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:46.000 stack Jack and Dramaine O'Neill for having a team back because everybody they was coming 675 00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:49.800 at our test like he was in the street. And that's not a word 676 00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:52.800 I used, but man, they was jumping on that man like he stole 677 00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:55.480 something from them. And I still blame that thumb, Ben Wallace. He 678 00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:59.800 shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. I'm gonna tell you this should be. 679 00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:05.039 Don't even blame bang. I don't even bang. I don't blame being. 680 00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:09.480 I blame that fan through the first drink on top of Runner, because 681 00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:14.719 remember Run, it was just a horror file and we have horror files all 682 00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:20.119 the time, and so he laid down on the thing like Metal World Peace 683 00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:25.079 would probably do because he's trying to bring his mental down, and nobody took 684 00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:30.119 consideration to that. He's laying there and a whole beer cup slaps you in 685 00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:32.519 the face while you're trying to come to your piece mode so you don't get 686 00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:37.719 into a worser situation. That fan egged that on and made that worse than 687 00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:42.119 what it was. And now those players are suffering because Jermaine O'Neil had a 688 00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:45.039 pretty good career and probably would have finished out with a great career. Well, 689 00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:49.880 remember they had to pay him his money back and decrease his suspension. 690 00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:52.639 He took his stuff all the way to civil court. Yeah, so we're 691 00:53:52.639 --> 00:54:00.000 just gonna move on. So hold' you know what's funny is yet that fans 692 00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:07.079 are cool? Now? Yeah? It does, so moving on? Really 693 00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:13.360 have you ever seen that one either? So moving on on on the malege 694 00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:15.679 of the Palace. But I didn't know they was friends. Now they're tight. 695 00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:17.639 He's the fan is in Divining, the fan is in the documentary. 696 00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:22.280 The fattist shot the beer is all through the documentary. Should be in jail. 697 00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:30.760 So moving on on the bill. On the Brian, uh yeah, 698 00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:37.079 we just say we don't appreciate it. But on the Brian uh win win 699 00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:43.360 win Hurst and who Collect the podcast, they discussed bringing back the US Versus 700 00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:47.480 the World format back to the All Star game. Brian wind Tour said the 701 00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:53.159 World would kick the US a but based off the twenty twenty three All Star 702 00:54:53.239 --> 00:55:01.119 selections, what do you think who you think would win? And also what 703 00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:07.480 do you think about them bringing back this format? Uh, I'll let you 704 00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:15.320 gentlemen, Uh, I mean I like it. I don't know about kicking 705 00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:17.199 the US as, but well, let me just go over the line is 706 00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:21.079 real quick. Let me just let me just go over the LINEUS real quick. 707 00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:24.000 But the US we got Steph Curry, Anthony Edwards, Lebron, James, 708 00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:30.079 Jason Tatum, Kevin Durant for the For the world, we have Luca, 709 00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:37.840 Shay, Giannis, Sa Bonus and Joker. But I don't know about 710 00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:42.880 kicking the butt, but I think they were winning world. Do you really 711 00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:46.760 think so? Yeah? Competitive, I don't know about competitive, because who's 712 00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:52.880 gonna who's gonna hold staff? What you mean, who's gonna hold Steph's gonna 713 00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:55.400 get stephs bucket? Steph is a bucket. You know what. Here's the 714 00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:59.880 thing. Let's stay Steph gets thirty. Let's say Anthony Ever puts in twenty 715 00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:02.639 KD. Who gonna hold KD? KD is a bucket? But you're talking 716 00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:07.960 about these these guys are a bucket. But who's gonna stop the opposite end? 717 00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:12.840 Okay? Well, first of all, who on the world other than 718 00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:16.239 Joker is a bucket. Luca is a bucket, Shay is a bucket, 719 00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:21.800 Giannis is a bucket. The only problem. The world has a bonus there 720 00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:24.599 their buckets, but they gotta work a little hard for them. Buckets. 721 00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:30.559 Worked hard for his buckets years, worked hard for worked hard for his buddys, 722 00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:32.880 works hard for his buckets. But besides Giannis, all these guys can 723 00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:37.320 get their own shot. Joker get his own shot. All five of the 724 00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:40.559 US can too. Not on the defense, on the offensive end. Yes, 725 00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:44.679 I'm saying, but you gotta go back and forth here. I think 726 00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:47.679 the world can hold better defense. I think the world, I mean the 727 00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:51.960 world is that is that the best US could have came up with. I'm 728 00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:54.119 gonna say the US is old. I'm sorry. All those players are over 729 00:56:54.199 --> 00:57:00.480 thirty in the US right now, right Jason five are yeah, three out 730 00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:05.159 of five hour that's that's over sixty percent. O bro, so us you're 731 00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:08.679 making my point. I'm just saying US is old. I wouldn't say that 732 00:57:09.519 --> 00:57:14.599 they would kill him, right. This is based off the twenty twenty three 733 00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:20.960 All Stars. This is last year All Star selection. I think it would 734 00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:22.039 be a competitive game, but I think the world would win. But I 735 00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:27.000 don't know about killing. And this is my thing. Embid is part of 736 00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:30.880 the world. We don't even have a We don't even have a center. 737 00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:35.400 But he's a he's a citizen. Now, Yes, we're talking about where 738 00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:37.519 you're born at. That's why, that's why it's US bust the world where 739 00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:40.519 you're born. I know that, but we're talking about where you're born at. 740 00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:45.000 We're talking about the world versus the US. He was not born in 741 00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:52.280 US. Citizen. We don't have a center. We don't who's our center? 742 00:57:53.239 --> 00:58:01.480 Damn born born here? Davis? Who us? Davis? Jesus Christ 743 00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:06.840 Anthony. Did you just argue with me that he was a power forward last 744 00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:10.079 week? Center? He can play center. Don't do that, Dray, 745 00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:15.840 y'all literally just no, we we didn't argue with you about what you said. 746 00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:20.159 We argue with you saying that his natural position is the power forward. 747 00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:23.440 He can play center, though I didn't. You didn't want to, You 748 00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:29.280 didn't want a center, and y'all said you can't go ahead. That wasn't 749 00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:32.360 he was arguing over. Go back to the conversation and listen. At least 750 00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:37.239 it was I got a note. It was what does it say? It 751 00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:44.079 was? Davis is a center. He's taking notes out of all ours. 752 00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:49.159 He's always call you back, and he's a power forward, but he plays 753 00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:54.480 center. That's fine. But he can't hold joke. That's facts. He 754 00:58:54.559 --> 00:58:59.679 can't hold joke. Jokes can't hold him either, though I can hold him. 755 00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:05.400 Hit him at his knee anyways, you gotta make one NBA game first. 756 00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:07.079 Just tap him in his knee. I'm gonna take you like this, 757 00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:10.440 man. It wouldn't it wouldn't. It don't have any knee injury. The 758 00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:15.280 world wouldn't kill us. But I think they would win. I think they 759 00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:17.119 were win. I think not not if we put the right lineup together. 760 00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:22.159 Okay, okay, what's the lineup. What's the lineup for us? This 761 00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:25.119 is the world lineup? This is the world line I'm sticking with this. 762 00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:29.480 This is smooth. What is the US lineup for you? I'm gonna go 763 00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:35.280 with Steph Curry. I'm gonna go with Devin Booker. I'm gonna go with 764 00:59:35.440 --> 00:59:42.800 Katie. I'm gonna go with I gotta take Lebron out only because of age 765 00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:47.559 and Lebron on these minute restrictions restrictions, since they said he was gonna be 766 00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:52.159 on minute restrictions, but he needs to I'm just saying what I'm saying. 767 00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:58.199 I'm gonna go with James Harden, hold his name, You're down one more 768 00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:07.280 person? You keep KD. You said, Steph Devin Booker KD. James 769 01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:15.440 Harden, who is your fifth? Yeah? And when you think about it, 770 01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:23.599 most NBA is full of world players. Now yep, see, just 771 01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:28.559 go ahead and say it. What to say Anthony Davis. I mean, 772 01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:31.639 it's okay, just saying if you need a center, it has to be 773 01:00:31.719 --> 01:00:37.599 Anthony Davis. No, I'm gonna go with MB because MB. Why bye 774 01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:45.719 Anthony Davis is I can't have him B, You can't, Casey can't have 775 01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:52.440 n B. Who you got Anthony Davis? So you're gonna keep this lineup 776 01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:59.000 and then just have Anthony Davis who you replacing. I'm taking out tatim or 777 01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:07.000 broad right, No, because I'm taking out Anthony Edwards. I just don't 778 01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:12.159 feel confident enough in his abilities. Yet. He's good, no doubt, 779 01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:15.239 he's gonna be really good. He's gonna be even better once he figure out 780 01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:19.280 that mental part of the game. I saw a goofy stat somebody said he's 781 01:01:19.320 --> 01:01:22.119 the next Michael Jordan. Did y'all see that saying that's the worst world street 782 01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:25.880 But the thing is he hasn't found that mental part out yet, how to 783 01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:30.159 take how to take over games? A winner? Yeah, how to be 784 01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:32.039 a winner. He's good, but he doesn't know how to be a winner 785 01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:36.760 yet. And he has a mentality where he wants to be a winner. 786 01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:39.920 So it's coming. But right now he's not that he shouldn't be in that 787 01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:46.199 lineup. Tatum can play the two, that's true. So this past Also 788 01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:51.719 this past week, the Los Angeles Lakers lost to the Miami Heat in Miami. 789 01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:54.679 In a post game, Lebron James was asked about his stinch in the 790 01:01:54.880 --> 01:02:00.840 Miami Heat. With the Miami Heat, Lebron James is quoted as saying, 791 01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:05.599 I think I would have been I I think I would still be at at 792 01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:07.199 this level, no matter if I would have came to Miami or not. 793 01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:10.320 Let's not let's not get it twisted. The four years I was there, 794 01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:15.280 it was amazing. But as far as my career, my career was going 795 01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:24.400 to be my career. As I pull up a video from town, if 796 01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:52.039 he don't cool, you know because I pulled up this clip, h m 797 01:02:52.199 --> 01:03:06.559 hm. So anyway, you're talking about Lebron, so we're talking about I'll 798 01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:14.000 just take them on. So we talked about Lebron James in Miami. What 799 01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:20.920 do you guys think of I guess I asked the question, dude, what 800 01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:22.800 do you think as far as Lebron James and his stinch in Miami? And 801 01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:28.800 do you think he would still be the player who he is today? Can 802 01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:34.199 see I'm gonna give you the floor because my mind is simple. I'm gonna 803 01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:39.280 let you go first today. I compared the Miami Heat years as his college 804 01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:44.119 years. Had Lebron went to college, the Miami Heat would have been his 805 01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:50.199 college years. I think playing next next to greatness brought greatness out of Lebron. 806 01:03:50.639 --> 01:03:54.159 But don't get it twisted. Lebron still would have been the man without 807 01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:59.679 going to Miami. Would he have had those championships? Probably not, because 808 01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:01.920 he could get it done in Cleveland after being to the finals maybe three or 809 01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:08.679 four times before he even went to Miami. So uh, bron career would 810 01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:14.920 have been his career. Yes, titles arguably before keys it going. I 811 01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:18.000 ran you, no, I'm gonna let you go on your rank, go 812 01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:23.400 ahead, go ahead, go ahead, all right? Cool. Without Miami, 813 01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:26.400 Lebron would not be Lebron. I think he would still be trying to 814 01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:30.679 figure it out. I think he might have gotten one, but I really 815 01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:32.719 don't think he would have gotten to the level he would have been because he 816 01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:38.039 in Miami, he did learn how to be a champion. Brother, he 817 01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:42.400 wants to admit it or not, it wasn't a Lebron James. Even Lebron 818 01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:45.960 James had to lose that first year to become Lebron James. And it's not 819 01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:51.239 like I think a lot of times we take we don't look at our failures 820 01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:58.719 as being accomplishments. So his failure in Cleveland, his and then him winning 821 01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:02.880 in Miami was was having him having the mentality to come back to Cleveland and 822 01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:08.360 bring them the NBA champion or even going to Los Angeles Lakers and bringing them 823 01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:14.440 a champion ship. So it's just I feel like those two things helped Lebron 824 01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:17.199 become Lebron James, because it's not like because if the way he said is 825 01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:21.480 like, if you know, like I was gonna get these championships regardless, 826 01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:24.960 I was gonna get these m vps, regardless, you might have got them 827 01:05:25.039 --> 01:05:28.000 m vps, you might even got you might have been scoring champion, but 828 01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:32.119 I don't think you would have been the winner that you are without man and 829 01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:36.920 I don't think Lebron is denying that. I just think people try to act 830 01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:41.719 like he wouldn't have been that he still would have been an all time leading 831 01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:46.639 scorer, said he probably would have been a defensive Player of the year. 832 01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:51.679 The fact that he only has none, right, yes, none, it's 833 01:05:51.760 --> 01:06:06.920 none that is atrocious. Take can Kesey answer verse hold on lake tape and 834 01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:09.920 didn't let keys because you know, you don't know, you know you don't 835 01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:19.239 like Stevens. I know you want to get Hm hyped up? Is that 836 01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:21.920 correct? What the hell is wrong with you, Lebron? What the hell 837 01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:27.280 is wrong with you? Let me tell y'all something, Lebron. James loses 838 01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:32.320 in Boston when he goes to Miami. How does it happen? You got 839 01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:36.079 James Dolan talking about making them a billionaire. That didn't work. You got 840 01:06:36.159 --> 01:06:41.280 other teams looking at them. Kat Rowley rolled up and put rings on the 841 01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:45.320 table. Do you want D's okay? Well, here's how you get him 842 01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:47.079 now. Obviously I've broken the story about how he's gonna end up taking his 843 01:06:47.159 --> 01:06:50.760 talents to South Beach. But make no mistake about it. Do y'all understand 844 01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:55.639 the greatness of a hall of fame about the name of Dwayne Wade. He 845 01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:59.360 was a great player, he was a great leader. Let's go back to 846 01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:04.119 Lebron's rookie year. Lebron every press conference was d Wade looking right at it 847 01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:09.039 was sitting right next to him. Why was that because mentally, despite the 848 01:07:09.199 --> 01:07:13.119 greatness of Lebron James as a talent, mentally he was warped. He was 849 01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:15.920 scared to shoot free throws. He was scared to really take the bull bottle 850 01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:19.199 horn, give me the rock. I'm that dude, I'm that man. 851 01:07:19.480 --> 01:07:24.559 Okay, so much so that even after they lost in the finals two Dallas, 852 01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:27.960 when Jason Terry was guarding him in the post in the fourth water and 853 01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:31.559 they'll get jameson ran JJ Barrey, Okay, Coleman. Stop by the way. 854 01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:36.760 The bottom line is this. When that happened the following year All Star 855 01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:41.280 weekend. And I've said this so many times, Lebron James got the ball 856 01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:44.239 in his hands, the late great Kobe Bryant claps his hands, let's go 857 01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:47.079 and defend them an exhibition All Star game to just having a good time. 858 01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:50.800 And he threw the ball in the corner and it was a turnover and Mellow, 859 01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:56.960 d Wade, Kobe, everybody descended on Lebron. What's the matter with 860 01:07:57.039 --> 01:08:01.000 you? He was warped. He and Dad is why Shannon Sharp I haven't 861 01:08:01.079 --> 01:08:04.480 given him the title lest go, because I got to take into account all 862 01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:09.960 of those things before you started winning championship. And what I'm saying is that 863 01:08:10.079 --> 01:08:14.679 he been going against Jordan and those brothers right with that kind of mentality before 864 01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:17.319 he ever won a championship, he'd have never won one. They'd have shut 865 01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:21.479 it down because they'd have snatched his heart. But because he got to Miami 866 01:08:21.800 --> 01:08:30.119 and learn what it took to be a champion, he's been unstoppable since Casey. 867 01:08:30.199 --> 01:08:31.800 Would you like to first off, Stephen, THEA is talking about some 868 01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:36.520 stuff that is irrelevant. You sure because Boston and being a billion they had 869 01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:39.720 nothing to do with what they were talking about. I don't even know why 870 01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:46.479 he brought that part up. It was just talk. It was just talk 871 01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:57.359 from a fool. Why you gotta be a fool? Stephen again? Talk 872 01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:10.840 got to give Steven a a hard time? Oh god? But first off, 873 01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:16.000 Lebron James would have been Lebron James whether he went to Miami Chicago. 874 01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:30.159 The Lakers Toronto, San Antonio, the Clippers, the Bucks, or wherever 875 01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:33.880 he landed. Lebron James would have been Lebron James. And we're gonna keep 876 01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:39.239 that at that for that part. And people can say whatever they want to 877 01:09:39.279 --> 01:09:43.119 say, But Lebron James could have went to any franchise that he wanted to 878 01:09:43.199 --> 01:09:49.279 go to and he still would have been Lebron James. Most people, if 879 01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:53.560 you send them to any other franchise and not guaranteed to be who they are. 880 01:09:56.479 --> 01:10:02.319 And that's that's where Stephen as Phill failed to mention in his rant, 881 01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:06.319 is Lebron James could have went any franchise and been who he wanted to be. 882 01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:11.840 It doesn't matter where he went and got his first rings, that doesn't 883 01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:15.960 matter. That's still what they mentioned from what Lebron said was I still would 884 01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:19.479 have been me at the end of the day. Miami was great to me, 885 01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:26.000 but I still would have been me. King James, he came in 886 01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:30.279 the league King James, and he been to King James since he stepped foot 887 01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:35.359 on the court twenty two seasons ago. And there's nobody else in the league 888 01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:42.600 that could say they came in King James. Ain't gonna leave King James drop 889 01:10:43.159 --> 01:10:48.800 the mic for what because he just spent nothing but facts. It spit off 890 01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:56.520 back. It's not a fanspective. Tell me another player that came in. 891 01:10:56.800 --> 01:11:00.800 Tell me any player that came in their first year and dominated all the way 892 01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:08.600 through twenty two seasons. Tell me one real quick answer question. My thing 893 01:11:08.680 --> 01:11:14.720 about that is this, Lebron is Lebron. Tell me one person that came 894 01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:20.800 in year one with the pressure Lebron James had on him and sustained it for 895 01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:31.159 twenty two seasons. My thing is this, Do you tell me one person 896 01:11:32.239 --> 01:11:36.680 who came in year one answer a question? I heard your question? I 897 01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:44.000 ca answer and sustain what they required of him for twenty two seasons. Appreciate 898 01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:50.079 that. The thing about Lebron James and his tell me one person who came 899 01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:56.560 in the list. You can't tell me one. Just say you can't tell 900 01:11:56.600 --> 01:12:00.880 me one person. That's all I want to hear. You say, answer 901 01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:05.640 it and stopped dancing around it. So like a battle aerna. So here's 902 01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:11.880 the thing. There is there is no person in the NBA who's had the 903 01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:15.439 pressure that Lebron jameson had. Is that what you want to hear? No, 904 01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:16.439 I want you to. Yeah, there is a question because he asked 905 01:12:16.479 --> 01:12:20.239 me, what kind of what one person came into the league with the kind 906 01:12:20.239 --> 01:12:25.119 of pressure Lebron James's had. I said, no one, No one is 907 01:12:25.159 --> 01:12:27.760 coming too the league with the kind of pressure Lebron James's had. But let 908 01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:30.119 me, let's make this very clear. I thought I thought you would want 909 01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:33.239 to take the Mike man for that. Let's just make this very clear. 910 01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:39.359 His first ring wasn't in Cleveland. His first wing was in Miami. His 911 01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:43.079 first two rings was in Miami. So don't sit here and tell me he 912 01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:45.119 could have went to San Antonio. He could have went to Milwaukee. He 913 01:12:45.239 --> 01:12:54.239 could know. He couldn't. No, he could he couldn't. No, 914 01:12:54.920 --> 01:13:03.239 he couldn't. Lebron. You g m Lebron came from Miami. Hey, 915 01:13:03.319 --> 01:13:09.159 I need this, this, and this to win a championship. Riley orchestrated 916 01:13:09.239 --> 01:13:12.520 that team? Did he orchanestrate that team? Or did d Wade called the 917 01:13:12.600 --> 01:13:14.359 call. Lebron was like, hey man, what you're trying to do? 918 01:13:15.439 --> 01:13:18.159 Hey man, what you're trying to let this? He just since you said 919 01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:27.159 this, there I'm going there. Okay. Put him in right That same 920 01:13:27.279 --> 01:13:33.199 year with Kawhi Leonard, Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, and Greg Popovich. 921 01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:39.840 Hold on second, you're right or not? Because he met with them too. 922 01:13:39.960 --> 01:13:42.399 Are you ready? Are you ready for this? Yeah? Yeah, 923 01:13:42.439 --> 01:13:45.439 they would have. That's why they did with Kawhi Leonard. What are you 924 01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:48.600 talking about? Yeah, if you put if you put a Hall of Fame 925 01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:51.560 coach, a Hall of Fame player, yeah, you put him in. 926 01:13:51.760 --> 01:13:55.319 Hey, hey, Lebron, you want a championship, This is the easy 927 01:13:55.359 --> 01:13:58.560 way to go about it. This is the easy way to go about it. 928 01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:01.359 So say he could have went to Milwaukee, because Milwaukee this is before 929 01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:06.640 Yiannis, this is before was Gianni's. Don't tell me he could have came 930 01:14:06.640 --> 01:14:12.600 to Milwaukee and won the championship. You know why you can say? Hold 931 01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:14.760 on? You know why you can say, look at Milwaukee that year. 932 01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:17.600 What year was that, two thousand and what that they won the championship two 933 01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:24.880 thousand and six? I think that was his rookie years and nobody knew was 934 01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:29.239 gonna be honest. My point is Milwaukee. My point is there the reason 935 01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:30.720 you can say the things you can say about Lebron because he came out of 936 01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:33.319 Miami. No, we can say the things we can say about he came 937 01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:39.680 out of Miami's because Lebron James. Your argument, your argument why he didn't 938 01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:42.840 win in Cleveland because he was with a bunch of bombs. They were okay. 939 01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:45.000 So if he's with a bunch of bombs before he went to Miami, 940 01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:47.880 what makes you think it would have happened if he didn't go to Miami the 941 01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:50.439 spur Because Lebron was a kid, he would have been a ball. He 942 01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:55.000 would have been with a bunch of ball only reason he was the only reason 943 01:14:55.079 --> 01:14:58.800 he went to Miami is because of Dwayne Wade was his homeboy. If Dwayne 944 01:14:58.840 --> 01:15:02.479 Wade was already a winner, so so so Wi, Timem Dunkan and Kawhi 945 01:15:02.520 --> 01:15:05.520 won the one winners. My point is, if you play so he goes 946 01:15:05.600 --> 01:15:09.840 to say, you're going to go to State that year, No, they 947 01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:14.439 don't win the championship. No, if he goes to the teams, he 948 01:15:14.520 --> 01:15:16.840 can see the easy You can say that about Lebron because he came out in 949 01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:21.359 Miami and he knew what it would took to win. Yes, yes, 950 01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:26.720 yes, because he didn't win a championship his first three four years in the 951 01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:30.079 league. For seven years in the league, and he went to the finals 952 01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:34.199 twice. They went to the finals like four or five times, noot, 953 01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:39.159 his first seven years. How many times you go to the finals twice and 954 01:15:39.239 --> 01:15:42.880 he lost? He went to the finals four times his first seven years. 955 01:15:43.039 --> 01:15:46.520 Okay, so he couldn't win it, right, Yeah, not hearing what 956 01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:51.159 I'm saying. Before he went to Miami, what did he win? How 957 01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:56.720 many times you go to the finals four years? Twice? Before Miami he 958 01:15:57.520 --> 01:16:00.079 went to Miami. He went to the finals with Miami. Four years before 959 01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:06.840 Miami, he went twice, lost to the Spurs, lost for just one. 960 01:16:06.920 --> 01:16:11.000 I think it was both, might have been once. No, think 961 01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:13.560 about the Cleveland years he went to the finals like four years. No, 962 01:16:13.600 --> 01:16:16.840 I don't think it was that much, because before before Miami, we're talking 963 01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:21.279 about his first seven years in the league like you like to talk about Jordan's 964 01:16:21.279 --> 01:16:26.680 first He went to the finals at least three straight years in Cleveland. Yeah. 965 01:16:27.399 --> 01:16:32.199 Two of those was after Drew Gooden with and okay and second second, 966 01:16:32.199 --> 01:16:35.159 you're right with a bunch of bombs, right with a house with a bunch 967 01:16:35.159 --> 01:16:40.520 of bombs. Right. He went to Miami. He went to Miami and 968 01:16:40.640 --> 01:16:45.600 learned how to win. He only went to the finals once. So here's 969 01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:48.199 what we're confusing. He went to the Eastern Conference finals and he lost to 970 01:16:48.279 --> 01:16:54.359 Orlando, and he lost to Orlando and Boston. He went to the conference 971 01:16:54.439 --> 01:16:57.640 finals one. He went to the NBA Finals one time with Cleveland. That 972 01:16:57.680 --> 01:16:59.800 was in two thousands. And how many times you go to the Eastern Conference 973 01:16:59.840 --> 01:17:03.880 five was like three, like three years streat It was like, okay, 974 01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:08.119 So my point is this. My point is this, you can't The only 975 01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:12.359 reason you can say Lebron can take can can can take can take a championship 976 01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:15.840 team to the NBA finals. He did that after he went to Miami. 977 01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:18.680 This is after he took a Cleveland full of bumps to the fire. He 978 01:17:18.720 --> 01:17:23.479 couldn't win it, and why he league because he couldn't win it. Tell 979 01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:25.760 me one team that can win. Tell me one player that went to the 980 01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:28.600 finals and won it by themselves. So don't contradict yourself. Don't contradict your 981 01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:32.319 I'm just saying because what you said was you said Lebron could go to any 982 01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:36.560 team and be Lebron, and be Lebron, he would win a championship. 983 01:17:36.600 --> 01:17:41.319 I just say win a championship. I said be Lebron. But the point 984 01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:44.479 of the whole, the point of stephen A's ranch was if he didn't go 985 01:17:44.560 --> 01:17:47.079 to Miami, he wouldn't have learned how to be a champion, That's what. 986 01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:51.199 But my point is he could have went to a couple of other different 987 01:17:51.279 --> 01:17:57.039 teams. It's still been a champions Okay, hold on, let's talk about 988 01:17:57.039 --> 01:18:03.960 the Spurs already established champions. So was Miami Miami. I just won the 989 01:18:04.079 --> 01:18:09.239 title with Wade a few years prior to the Lebron sideing Waite in Shaq, 990 01:18:09.640 --> 01:18:12.680 But they won the title. Wait in shack? Did they win the championship? 991 01:18:12.840 --> 01:18:15.960 Yeah? Okay, So when hold on second, when pat Roley dumped 992 01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:18.680 those rings on his in front of Lebron, he didn't say, come to 993 01:18:18.760 --> 01:18:21.439 Miami to win. He said I know how to win because he win. 994 01:18:21.760 --> 01:18:26.479 He won once with the Lakers and other teams like that. But don't talk 995 01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:29.600 about Lebron. James was a champion before he came to Miami, because he 996 01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:31.640 wasn't. Nobody said nothing about that. What are you talking about? You're 997 01:18:31.720 --> 01:18:35.439 talking about He could take any team and go to the NBA Finals and win 998 01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:40.600 a championship. Wouldn't have took this Bucks team. He told me to look 999 01:18:40.680 --> 01:18:43.000 up two thousands said he would have took this to It was the team that 1000 01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:49.600 year, Charlie Bell, Earl Boykins, Dan Gazaric, that's what that's when 1001 01:18:49.680 --> 01:18:55.359 Drake didn't have tickets. Michael Michael Ray was killing them and he was hurt 1002 01:18:55.439 --> 01:19:01.399 by then Charlie Villanova, Mo Williams, the same old that was in Cleveland. 1003 01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:04.720 It was so been there, done that. But if you take Lebron 1004 01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:08.920 and you put him on a team like the Lakers, all the teams he 1005 01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:12.520 met when you put him on the Dallas Mavericks with Jerk, you put him 1006 01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:16.600 in San Antonio with the Spurs, all the teams that Bron met with during 1007 01:19:16.680 --> 01:19:23.439 that original free agency would have been in the same boat as Miami was in. 1008 01:19:23.760 --> 01:19:27.880 Yes, I agree with that. That's what I'm saying. All of 1009 01:19:28.680 --> 01:19:31.359 all of the places that he probably would have went would have been in the 1010 01:19:31.439 --> 01:19:35.199 same boat as Miami would have, and which means Lebron would have still been 1011 01:19:35.279 --> 01:19:38.880 Lebron. So you do are you saying that he would have had the same 1012 01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:45.319 situation in New York he didn't meet with New York, or if Bron met 1013 01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:50.680 with New Jersey, New York, the Bulls and Derrick Rose dropped the ball 1014 01:19:50.680 --> 01:19:56.159 because Derek Rose in't return his car. He could have, he could have 1015 01:19:56.520 --> 01:20:00.439 he could have won with Derrick Rose. He met with the Clippers, could 1016 01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:02.359 have did it with the Clippers. I think he was just on a traveling 1017 01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:09.800 spree and he met with the Miami Heat. So thinking if he goes who 1018 01:20:09.840 --> 01:20:18.640 was in the Clipper that was Chris Paul and Blake Griffin. I just I 1019 01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:21.560 just feel like I just feel like Lebron could maybe should have answered that a 1020 01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:28.359 little bit better. Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan, Eric Gordon, Lou Williams, 1021 01:20:28.840 --> 01:20:31.359 Eric Blets. Oh, they could have Baron Davis. Baron Davis would 1022 01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:35.479 had a title to have the sign Lebron, Cordy mcghetty, Elton Brand, 1023 01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:46.520 Matt Barnes, Yeah, they would, they would. Willie Williams Chicago Chicago 1024 01:20:46.680 --> 01:20:49.800 was a really good team, Ron Butler Chicago was a really good team. 1025 01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:54.279 They couldn't get over the Lebron. They couldn't go over well because Eric Rosen 1026 01:20:54.319 --> 01:20:58.119 return his call and Derek Rose wasn't trying to recruit. He shouldn't have. 1027 01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:01.920 If I can't even imagine that lineup with Lebron, James and Derreck rolls in 1028 01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:08.119 it. Well, Lebron's career would have been more tarnished because Derrick Rose would 1029 01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:10.760 have been hurt and Lebron wouldn't been. It'd have been a Cleveland situation. 1030 01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:13.399 But if Derek Row didn't have to do as much, he probably wouldn't have 1031 01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:17.439 got hurt. Lebron. He was in the same boat as Lebron. He 1032 01:21:17.479 --> 01:21:20.720 would have playing with a bunch of so so I'm gonna gonna keep calling the 1033 01:21:20.760 --> 01:21:23.960 scrubs. I'm gonna agree, I got to find a new word. I'm 1034 01:21:23.960 --> 01:21:27.199 gonna gree with keys to this point. Lebron and I'm gonna agree with you. 1035 01:21:27.680 --> 01:21:32.840 Lebron would have been Lebron the player on any team, but he wouldn't 1036 01:21:32.840 --> 01:21:36.199 have been a champion. I'll give you that. I would agree, except 1037 01:21:36.239 --> 01:21:42.039 that he would have been a championship on a couple of other teams too, 1038 01:21:42.119 --> 01:21:45.760 but probably the ones he met with, maybe the Clippers, maybe the clip 1039 01:21:45.800 --> 01:21:49.199 who the New York that year, because I think that was a year in 1040 01:21:49.239 --> 01:21:53.640 New York was stacked. Was that Carmelo's year? That was Carmelo and start 1041 01:21:54.159 --> 01:22:02.159 year? Man who did they have their guards? They might have had were 1042 01:22:02.159 --> 01:22:09.000 about to find out out Felton Felton. Uh. They had Carmelo, they 1043 01:22:09.079 --> 01:22:15.319 had Chauncey billupsh, you had Wilson, Chandler, Belton, Danello, Gallinari 1044 01:22:15.560 --> 01:22:19.840 in his prime was a ball of the Yeah. They had a Mari Starmar 1045 01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:26.680 toward the end of his career. They had Tony Douglass, they had they 1046 01:22:26.760 --> 01:22:30.079 had a decent roster that could have made some noise. But here's a problem 1047 01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:35.159 I think, and this is just me, I think in their prime, 1048 01:22:35.920 --> 01:22:41.039 Mello and Lebron together would have been a lot worse than Wade and Lebron together. 1049 01:22:42.680 --> 01:22:45.399 I don't. I don't think Carmelo and Lebron in their prime would have 1050 01:22:45.479 --> 01:22:51.640 metched well together because the game, except for Lebron, plays defense the same 1051 01:22:51.720 --> 01:22:59.039 type of game. One doesn't make anyone better around him. He doesn't in 1052 01:22:59.159 --> 01:23:04.199 terms of I'm gonna take you like this, like this with an elite shooter 1053 01:23:04.439 --> 01:23:10.199 like Carmelo was at that point. Imagine being able to kick the ball out 1054 01:23:10.239 --> 01:23:14.640 to a mellow. Yeah, but you also got a Mario sorry slashing, 1055 01:23:14.680 --> 01:23:17.439 and you got a Chuncey billups up top, and you gotta back up defensive 1056 01:23:17.479 --> 01:23:19.960 guard like way mom felt. So you're said he could have did it with 1057 01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:23.720 New York too. There's a possibility he could have done something decent with New 1058 01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:26.479 York. It wasn't. No, the people you're talking about is not no 1059 01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:31.199 scrubs not. I just don't think that Rosson. Nobody that he played with 1060 01:23:31.920 --> 01:23:35.319 stayed in Cleveland after he left, well and they were a lottery well and 1061 01:23:35.399 --> 01:23:39.560 they were a lottery team. They stayed. They were a lottery team every 1062 01:23:39.640 --> 01:23:42.119 year until he came back. Let's not forget that. Yeah, it's very 1063 01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:46.199 true. Even with Kyrie Irvin coming in, they still were lottery They had 1064 01:23:46.199 --> 01:23:51.359 three number one draft picks. My point was, don't even bring that name. 1065 01:23:53.880 --> 01:23:58.800 And my point is that, like I said before, without Miami, 1066 01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:00.600 Lebron James not winning. He's just a great, but he just want to 1067 01:24:00.640 --> 01:24:05.399 be a champion. He's not a winner. So when is a winner. 1068 01:24:05.479 --> 01:24:11.399 He had winning seasons, he's not a champion. You don't say that there's 1069 01:24:11.399 --> 01:24:14.960 a possibility he wouldn't be an NBA champion. I don't care what you're doing. 1070 01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:17.039 What are you doing when this playoff time, when this goal time? 1071 01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:20.119 What are you doing? And you notice what it is like Kobe Bryant, 1072 01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:26.119 Kobe Bryant chasing Michael. It wasn't a coincidence. It wasn't a coincidence. 1073 01:24:26.399 --> 01:24:29.319 And Lebron muches he want to shake it off and not play it. He's 1074 01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:31.119 chasing Mike too. But whatever, you chas hi Mike for a reason because 1075 01:24:31.119 --> 01:24:36.720 he's a winner, but a fifth, y'all be you're right, And that's 1076 01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:41.680 this whole conversa. That's this whole conversation. And at the end of the 1077 01:24:41.800 --> 01:24:45.840 day, regardless of what anybody say, there we go. Lebron James would 1078 01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:54.000 have been Lebron chains as he said, he wouldn't have been no champion next 1079 01:24:54.039 --> 01:24:58.840 week. It wasn't nothing about his comments said, I would have been an 1080 01:24:58.960 --> 01:25:01.640 NBA champion, regardless of where said. My career would have been my career. 1081 01:25:01.800 --> 01:25:05.840 My career would have been my career. It would have been his career. 1082 01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:10.039 Make you question, Let me ask the question question, No, I 1083 01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:12.159 want you to hold off me ask the question, I want you to hold 1084 01:25:12.199 --> 01:25:18.159 off Dre Yes, take away the two championship from Miami. Let's say Lebron 1085 01:25:18.279 --> 01:25:21.359 has the championship in Cleveland. Let's say he has one in the Los Angeles 1086 01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:29.720 Lakers. Is you are you still considering him one of the second best player 1087 01:25:29.760 --> 01:25:36.359 of all time? Yes, one title? No, no or no? 1088 01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:44.479 Okay, who would be better than Kobe? Kobe Magic? I'm just giving 1089 01:25:44.520 --> 01:25:48.760 you names if it was just one type. Kobe, before Lebron changed even 1090 01:25:48.800 --> 01:25:55.119 won a title in Miami, was already considered the number two. What was 1091 01:25:55.239 --> 01:25:59.840 his think about it that in that Bay had that debate had already started before 1092 01:25:59.880 --> 01:26:04.960 he even went to Miami, calling him the next and they they predicted before 1093 01:26:05.079 --> 01:26:11.159 Lebron start joining teams, they predicted him being the greatest ever. Now hold 1094 01:26:11.159 --> 01:26:14.880 on second, to stop right there? What was the thing that with Lebron 1095 01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:17.239 James will always hear You know, Lebron James, you're one of the greatest 1096 01:26:17.279 --> 01:26:20.439 players, almost a step on the floor, but you can't win a championship? 1097 01:26:21.279 --> 01:26:25.319 So what's up with that? And he didn't have an answer, So 1098 01:26:25.479 --> 01:26:30.000 Miami shut everybody up. Miami shut everybody up. When he won the title. 1099 01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:33.159 Was his first compress conference. You remember what he said? What did 1100 01:26:33.199 --> 01:26:39.319 he say? It's about time? But my so my question for you keys 1101 01:26:39.520 --> 01:26:45.239 again, without the Miami championships, you're looking at one maybe two. So 1102 01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:46.880 people can shut up. That's what it was all about. What you mean 1103 01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:53.399 to shut up, shut up, so like they were the only thing that 1104 01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:57.520 people can hold over lebron head was the championship. That was not another thing. 1105 01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:00.840 There was nothing else on the planet that that dude couldn't do. People 1106 01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:05.319 didn't have that people could hold over his head too passive. People said he 1107 01:27:05.439 --> 01:27:10.039 was too passive. People said, uh, he wasn't clutch. I'm not 1108 01:27:10.159 --> 01:27:12.560 I'm not agreeing with it. I'm just telling you what people were saying. 1109 01:27:13.239 --> 01:27:15.439 Even when he won the title, he wasn't clutch. Uh he was. 1110 01:27:15.479 --> 01:27:18.920 People passed the ball out, uh, and and and just saying it like 1111 01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:24.960 the like they're wrong. I always thought Lebron was clutched. I made a 1112 01:27:25.039 --> 01:27:29.720 lot of clutch shots. People. Fella realizes everybody's not a selfish person, 1113 01:27:30.279 --> 01:27:34.000 and everybody doesn't have to be selfish to be a great player. Everybody know 1114 01:27:34.159 --> 01:27:39.079 Jordan was selfish. That's why he was as good as he was. And 1115 01:27:39.199 --> 01:27:45.079 everybody's not a selfish player. And Kobe Bryant had that same mentality. That's 1116 01:27:45.079 --> 01:27:53.039 selfish. Because I'm the man up into into to correctly say what Lebron said, 1117 01:27:57.640 --> 01:28:00.760 You ain't right. I was still will be the same dominant player. 1118 01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:09.319 I'm chosen, ain't nothing changing that maybe less rings, but dominant from start 1119 01:28:09.359 --> 01:28:13.479 to finish. I take that I said what he said was correct. I 1120 01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:15.960 don't know why everybody took what he said and ran with it like he said, 1121 01:28:16.359 --> 01:28:23.960 were the media steven a side of the media. I agreed one hundred 1122 01:28:23.960 --> 01:28:29.039 and fifty with everything. Y'all both say, y'all have some very compelling arguments 1123 01:28:29.079 --> 01:28:36.279 here. But I think because of people are afraid of greatness. People are 1124 01:28:36.359 --> 01:28:43.760 afraid of people surpassing their greatness because you know what, greats don't comment on 1125 01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:47.840 what other greats are doing. When you think about the presidency right up until 1126 01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:54.720 Trump, presidents never in their never criticized other presidents into their first year. 1127 01:28:57.359 --> 01:29:02.000 President George W. Bush never criticized Rock Obama, not once. Bill Clinton 1128 01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:06.079 never criticized George W. Bush when he was in office in that first term, 1129 01:29:06.439 --> 01:29:12.800 not once. Obama didn't even criticize Trump in that first year, not 1130 01:29:13.079 --> 01:29:20.760 once. When people start seeing that Lebron was close to surpassing Jordan in the 1131 01:29:21.079 --> 01:29:29.560 argument, then people start talking even Michael. Michael never ever talked about people 1132 01:29:29.720 --> 01:29:34.279 surpassing him until Lebron got in the conversation. Never why, because we are 1133 01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:40.760 protective of our favorite legacies, goats, our protectives, and let's be honest 1134 01:29:40.800 --> 01:29:45.159 with you. Let's be honest with it. If Lebron had six titles, 1135 01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:48.800 we wouldn't even be talking about. If he's greater than Mike, we wouldn't 1136 01:29:48.840 --> 01:29:55.560 even be talking about. And I'm a Michael Jordan guying about that. You're 1137 01:29:55.600 --> 01:29:59.840 right, You're right. My thing about that is you're right because what if, 1138 01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:03.680 if anything, those six rings mean something. We haven't seen something like 1139 01:30:03.800 --> 01:30:09.199 that since I don't know Bill Russell. So when you say I got six 1140 01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:12.119 and then well, I gotta check I got I want to be better than 1141 01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:14.439 him, so I gotta I'm chasing him. I mean, Chase Kobe was 1142 01:30:14.520 --> 01:30:17.079 chasing him for a reason, so Lebron to be like, well, I'm 1143 01:30:17.319 --> 01:30:20.199 I'm one of the greatest players they But you ain't got no rings. I 1144 01:30:20.399 --> 01:30:24.960 don't care how dominant you've been, you haven't had no rings. I mean, 1145 01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:28.960 you can't close the door. I mean, you can't get what these 1146 01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:31.279 other players have done. But there's so many other players that got more rings 1147 01:30:31.319 --> 01:30:39.479 than Jordan's. There aren't in that that aren't and you are. And that's 1148 01:30:39.560 --> 01:30:44.399 what that's what bothers me is because because you Russell has how many rings? 1149 01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:49.279 Eleven? And he's still not in that category of God depends, Nobody, 1150 01:30:49.600 --> 01:30:55.039 depends what you're talking to. Nobody depends, nobody. Nobody depends on who 1151 01:30:55.039 --> 01:30:58.319 you're talking to. Steven A is around our age. He watched Jordan play 1152 01:30:58.600 --> 01:31:00.920 somebody who's older than Stephen ag would be like, well, did you see 1153 01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:03.359 Bill Russell Blain? We'd be like, no, we didn't have black and 1154 01:31:03.359 --> 01:31:06.680 white TVs back then, so nobody. I don't care who you put on 1155 01:31:06.800 --> 01:31:14.039 the mic. Nobody who who watched Jordan's and watch Bill Russell is going to 1156 01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:17.000 say Bill Russell was a better player than Michael Jordan because I don't care what 1157 01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:21.520 you say, because I don't care how you put it, how many rings 1158 01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:26.640 he has. He's not in a goat conversation because he's not a not even 1159 01:31:26.680 --> 01:31:30.439 in the top ten people. Time I tell about don't don't, don't do 1160 01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:34.760 that. He scored one hundred points and they still don't put him in the 1161 01:31:34.840 --> 01:31:39.359 go But that's that's good to I mean, Will Tam you know what I 1162 01:31:39.439 --> 01:31:41.920 meant to say, but you don't want to go out on it. Will 1163 01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:45.079 Chamberlin scored one hundred points in a game and he's still not in the Gold 1164 01:31:45.119 --> 01:31:50.840 conversations one hundred points and women when you talk about when you talk about you 1165 01:31:50.960 --> 01:31:59.119 need jezs you. But I'm just about real quick this. This is the 1166 01:31:59.239 --> 01:32:03.800 third week in the well Drake. He was on a wow streak. He 1167 01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:10.479 was on a Wow streak last week it was the Wee This week, wil 1168 01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:16.279 Chamber you're a wow streak. You're on a Wow streak. That's the ice 1169 01:32:16.359 --> 01:32:21.640 mountain over there, exactly. He talking about a three know wow, you 1170 01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:27.359 know wow. Anyway, it's the point I'm making this, his making this 1171 01:32:28.640 --> 01:32:34.000 when you're talking about uh, and then you're right, we did UH to 1172 01:32:34.119 --> 01:32:44.159 the back because because he wan. So my thing is as far as like 1173 01:32:44.239 --> 01:32:49.640 Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Uh, Magic Johnson, Bill Uh, Larry 1174 01:32:49.680 --> 01:32:55.560 Bird, like when you talk about these guys who Lebron James and Michael Jordan 1175 01:32:55.560 --> 01:32:59.439 are probably better than I think that it depends on who you're talking to. 1176 01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:01.640 But that's hold on. But the loudest mouths are don't have the driver. 1177 01:33:02.039 --> 01:33:09.600 Michael Jordan Nay conversation. The eighties, nobody touched the finals outside of Boston 1178 01:33:09.680 --> 01:33:14.520 in l A And nobody talks about that don't forget Jordan came in at eighty 1179 01:33:14.560 --> 01:33:18.039 four, but eighty four, eighty five, eighty six, eighty seven, 1180 01:33:18.159 --> 01:33:26.279 eighty eight, eighty nine, he didn't touch the finals because of bird and 1181 01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:30.319 magic. But nobody's saying putting them in a gold category because Lebron. I 1182 01:33:30.359 --> 01:33:34.079 mean, because, like he said, because people are so stuck on who 1183 01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:39.560 their favorite is automatically and they're stuck in their ways of who they think is 1184 01:33:39.560 --> 01:33:44.920 their favorite, like stephen A. But they're so stubborn. Nobody ever came 1185 01:33:45.039 --> 01:33:53.520 along and they wanted to put a real battle of goat until Lebron James touched 1186 01:33:53.560 --> 01:33:59.760 the court. Hold on time because nobody, every nobody, You can't even 1187 01:33:59.800 --> 01:34:05.760 tell me one person was even challenging Michael Jordan's because you know why do you 1188 01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:12.199 know why though, because anybody prophesied and then not to even mention, don't 1189 01:34:12.199 --> 01:34:15.479 even forget how the Detroit Pistons used to put their foot in his neck for 1190 01:34:15.640 --> 01:34:18.640 six straight years and when hold On second, I'm just saying, I'm just 1191 01:34:18.720 --> 01:34:21.039 saying, and they literally put their foot in his neck. Yeah, you're 1192 01:34:21.119 --> 01:34:25.680 right. Hold That's what I said though, when Michael hold On, when 1193 01:34:25.720 --> 01:34:30.159 Michael Jordan figured it out. You couldn't stop him. But if that's the 1194 01:34:30.319 --> 01:34:32.319 port, took time to figure it out though, right, Yeah, okay, 1195 01:34:32.399 --> 01:34:38.720 So then while Lebron is not entire out because Lebron has been challenged and 1196 01:34:38.840 --> 01:34:45.159 he's failed. Talking about Michael seven years this record, let me finish this 1197 01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:50.760 record in the finals, proudly six and zero. What's Lebron's record in the 1198 01:34:50.840 --> 01:34:55.119 finals? Let me but think about what you say, that's the point. 1199 01:34:55.239 --> 01:34:58.479 But think about what you said the first seven the first seven years, he 1200 01:34:58.479 --> 01:35:00.920 didn't even touch the finals. Okay, Lebron touched the fighting when his first 1201 01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:06.079 seven Okay, he got a taste. It failed with some scrubs, it 1202 01:35:06.199 --> 01:35:11.520 failed, some scrubs, it failed. No, the scrubs failed him or 1203 01:35:11.560 --> 01:35:15.039 did he fail because Jordan didn't refused to let them fail him. Well, 1204 01:35:15.039 --> 01:35:17.680 I'm gonna tell you like this, what are you talking about here? Yeah, 1205 01:35:17.720 --> 01:35:23.720 Jordan got his rings when when Isaiah Thomas was older, when Larry Borrow 1206 01:35:23.880 --> 01:35:30.479 was old, when when magic in them got older? Because in the eighties, 1207 01:35:30.920 --> 01:35:35.000 And let me finish before you know, because you're wrong what magic? 1208 01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:41.520 He beat magic in the finals to get the title. He beat Isaiah Thomas 1209 01:35:41.880 --> 01:35:45.159 in the conference finals and can I finish saying what I was? Say? 1210 01:35:45.199 --> 01:35:46.199 What you're gonna say? Yeah, you've been talking for twenty minutes. I 1211 01:35:47.159 --> 01:35:51.039 was on your team. I said what I said. You know, through 1212 01:35:51.079 --> 01:35:56.760 my whole thing off I'm doing all because he didn't interrupt at all, taste 1213 01:35:57.760 --> 01:36:01.079 on me. But talking about Jordan's getting it done in seven years and Lebron 1214 01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:08.760 having I'm just saying before those set it took him seven years. Them players 1215 01:36:08.800 --> 01:36:13.000 had already put on some years on their miles on their body before that Jordan 1216 01:36:13.079 --> 01:36:15.399 reached the year seven. Right, they have been in the league. How 1217 01:36:15.399 --> 01:36:17.960 many years before Jordan? A couple? Several? Several years? Right, 1218 01:36:18.479 --> 01:36:24.840 several Jordan's eighty four Magic was what eighty one? Three? No? Seven, 1219 01:36:25.039 --> 01:36:29.960 seventy nine? Right? No years? Bird and Magic were like seventy 1220 01:36:30.039 --> 01:36:34.520 nine eighty years Bird and Magic. Either way it goes because he first one 1221 01:36:34.640 --> 01:36:41.159 was ninety one, Championship was ninety one, ninety one, eighty four, 1222 01:36:41.199 --> 01:36:43.880 eighty five, eighty six, eighty seven, eighty eight, eighty nine, 1223 01:36:44.600 --> 01:36:47.439 ninety seventy nine was magic, Yeah, seventy one, Yeah, what years? 1224 01:36:47.520 --> 01:36:51.560 Murd oh, I would probably say seventy eight. Oh, because he 1225 01:36:51.880 --> 01:36:59.960 Bird played so Jordan didn't get his first wing until Magic was in year twelve 1226 01:37:00.119 --> 01:37:05.319 of his career. Dave Jordan didn't get a ring until Magic was in year 1227 01:37:05.479 --> 01:37:14.279 twelve his career, right because they owned his ass until then. That's what 1228 01:37:14.439 --> 01:37:19.880 I'm saying. So I think the other part of this is before Lebron, 1229 01:37:20.279 --> 01:37:24.640 tell me at the Hond before you go on, tell me at the Magic 1230 01:37:24.720 --> 01:37:27.600 and Bird, tell me anybody else you could talk about that was in the 1231 01:37:27.680 --> 01:37:30.720 category of them with Jordan. So two things, two things I want. 1232 01:37:30.960 --> 01:37:34.000 After the nineties started nineteen ninety, tell me one person who was in the 1233 01:37:34.039 --> 01:37:39.520 category with Jordan, Bird and Pagic. For those of y'all that are still 1234 01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:44.479 listening on the podcast and TV, we thank you, but because this is 1235 01:37:44.520 --> 01:37:48.880 a little longer episode. But the reason that they're also hard on Lebron because 1236 01:37:48.880 --> 01:37:55.880 you have to remember, up until Bron, every player christened the next Michael 1237 01:37:55.960 --> 01:38:02.399 Jordan did what failed? Yeah? True? Hell, Tracy McGrady, who 1238 01:38:02.479 --> 01:38:09.039 else did they call? What's that boy from Miami? They were calling him 1239 01:38:09.079 --> 01:38:14.119 the next Michael. Uh, Harold Minor. They were calling Harrol Miner the 1240 01:38:14.159 --> 01:38:19.399 next No, because he was supposedly an explosive guard. So what I'm saying 1241 01:38:19.600 --> 01:38:27.359 is Lebron was the first player that had to Actually, he came close to 1242 01:38:27.520 --> 01:38:32.000 Michael in terms of popularity, in terms of changing the game, in terms 1243 01:38:32.039 --> 01:38:35.520 of being the all around best. But the other part we have to remember 1244 01:38:36.039 --> 01:38:42.279 is Lebron is now in a big time social media world. There was no 1245 01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:47.279 social media world in Michael Jordan's era. The second thing, as Jim Rome, 1246 01:38:47.479 --> 01:38:50.920 why Michael Jordan won't talk to him? That's the dude from the Chicago 1247 01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:55.840 Tribune. Why Michael Jordan don't talk to him? Okay, Lebron can't do 1248 01:38:55.960 --> 01:39:00.520 that. Lebron to do that today? Get fine? You know, yeah, 1249 01:39:00.680 --> 01:39:03.439 you know why they don't talk about Jordan because Jordan refused to give them 1250 01:39:03.439 --> 01:39:09.760 another interview if they said another bad word about him in the newspaper. That's 1251 01:39:09.800 --> 01:39:12.119 what happened. It's the truth. That is the truth. I just know 1252 01:39:12.359 --> 01:39:17.479 that it's been the Jordan fan spit that out. She said Lebron didn't have 1253 01:39:17.560 --> 01:39:24.880 a fair chance to figure it out. Jordan did because of social media. 1254 01:39:24.920 --> 01:39:27.479 You said it in US, so like I said in US, like I 1255 01:39:27.520 --> 01:39:31.119 said before, right, did Lebron have a fair chance of figuring it out? 1256 01:39:33.920 --> 01:39:39.560 Yeah? No? Hold on the second time, about when you go 1257 01:39:39.640 --> 01:39:42.439 to the NBA finals. Jordan went to college. When you go to the 1258 01:39:42.600 --> 01:39:45.760 NBA, remember who Jordan played for when you go to the NBA Finals and 1259 01:39:45.840 --> 01:39:53.279 who was the coach, Dean Smith. Dean he got to play under a 1260 01:39:53.399 --> 01:39:57.000 Hall of fameer coach. So, like I said, freshman year and Phil 1261 01:39:57.079 --> 01:39:59.760 Jackson, nobody told Lebrian to come out early. The point I'm making is 1262 01:39:59.840 --> 01:40:05.479 this, uh college. So my thing is this, I told you Miami 1263 01:40:05.640 --> 01:40:10.039 was his college years. To me, my thing is this you talk about 1264 01:40:10.319 --> 01:40:15.960 when you talk about unfair. That sounds like some rich Paul talk. No 1265 01:40:15.119 --> 01:40:18.960 one told you to come out when you wanted to come out. You wanted 1266 01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:23.600 to do that because your circumstances or whatever the case may be. We're talking 1267 01:40:23.640 --> 01:40:27.399 about what happened. The facts of the fact of the matter is fact. 1268 01:40:28.359 --> 01:40:31.760 The facts of the matter is Lebron James made it to the NBA Finals. 1269 01:40:31.880 --> 01:40:34.920 Once you show us you can make it to the NBA Finals and you lose, 1270 01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:39.720 we have the right to cons curiosize you, especially when your next coming 1271 01:40:39.800 --> 01:40:43.680 to Jesus. So when you said, well, I brought a bunch of 1272 01:40:43.720 --> 01:40:45.119 scrubs, they didn't. They didn't come up to the well, you brought 1273 01:40:45.159 --> 01:40:48.880 them here, take them to glory. Don't don't bring them to the altar 1274 01:40:48.920 --> 01:40:54.840 and walk away. Bring them all the way to glory. And it is 1275 01:40:55.399 --> 01:40:58.560 a little bit, but that's a whole another subject for another day. When 1276 01:40:58.600 --> 01:41:01.640 you talk about Jordan George the six and on the finals Lebron Jamess four and 1277 01:41:01.760 --> 01:41:04.920 nine and y'all six, four and six, and y'all talk about, well 1278 01:41:05.039 --> 01:41:09.159 least he made it with that on the Mamba to Mama, took some scrubs 1279 01:41:09.199 --> 01:41:13.840 to the final and they lost. But he has five and he was chasing 1280 01:41:13.960 --> 01:41:18.920 Jordan's. He has five with the most dominant big man ever in n b 1281 01:41:19.039 --> 01:41:25.960 A history. Yes, three three three, because he has three and he 1282 01:41:26.079 --> 01:41:29.920 has two more with Paul Gas, who was the top big man of that. 1283 01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:32.960 I'm so sick of him. Man, don't do that. Don't do 1284 01:41:33.119 --> 01:41:44.119 that, bro. What Paul first at the end of his career. We 1285 01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:45.720 gotta get to the up, we gotta get to the buck, because this 1286 01:41:45.760 --> 01:41:50.920 would be this would be exactly dealing with me. You know, you're acting 1287 01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:58.680 like Kobe didn't have an easy pathway to the finals. What shack he did? 1288 01:41:59.439 --> 01:42:04.119 Definitely a shaq bro, Shaq right, no shock he's three wins. 1289 01:42:04.239 --> 01:42:08.520 What happened? Kobe was like, hey, is he the shack because the 1290 01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:12.079 player? Hey, you see the me of shack. They showed him and 1291 01:42:12.159 --> 01:42:14.000 he was like, well, I can do this without shock and he did 1292 01:42:14.039 --> 01:42:18.840 it twice with with with a superstar in Paul Gaso, one of the superstar 1293 01:42:19.920 --> 01:42:30.600 probably one team best big man from European basketball here a long, he's a 1294 01:42:30.680 --> 01:42:34.840 Hall of famer. Paula was have you see what he was doing in Memphis 1295 01:42:34.920 --> 01:42:39.439 before he got there? You know, would have been without Kobe, his 1296 01:42:39.600 --> 01:42:42.880 brother, and you act like his brother was a scrub. I didn't say 1297 01:42:42.880 --> 01:42:44.760 his brother a scrub. I said he would have been his brother when his 1298 01:42:44.840 --> 01:42:49.399 brother in the championship. Thank you. When he went to Toronto, that's 1299 01:42:49.399 --> 01:42:54.199 when he won a championship. Don't like Paul Gassaw was out here doing it 1300 01:42:54.319 --> 01:43:00.600 by hisself. He was killing in Memphis his brother without Kobe and his brother. 1301 01:43:00.640 --> 01:43:04.439 I'm saying is people are giving Kobe a pass, but we forget that 1302 01:43:04.600 --> 01:43:10.920 Kobe, let me finish. Kobe demanded the trade when they were losing after 1303 01:43:11.039 --> 01:43:15.399 Shaq left. He demanded the trade and Jenny Bus said, I'm not trading 1304 01:43:15.479 --> 01:43:20.479 you make it happen, and and the NBA handed him a saw. They 1305 01:43:20.520 --> 01:43:27.680 traded him for his Ricky brother, they handed Kobe and Paul Gasol was a 1306 01:43:27.760 --> 01:43:30.039 walking double double every year he was with the Lakers. And they brought in 1307 01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:33.880 the young Andrew buying them, and they had big Shot Worry, and they 1308 01:43:33.960 --> 01:43:39.479 had a young Rick Fox, and they had a young Derek Fisher. Rick 1309 01:43:39.560 --> 01:43:46.000 Fox was a buck. He's nice category was like shouldn't he should not show 1310 01:43:46.079 --> 01:43:49.680 me he wasn't. The Buck's in that same category would like shot you know 1311 01:43:49.760 --> 01:43:53.840 what? You don't do some Bucks talk. We'll get about it here this 1312 01:43:53.960 --> 01:43:57.199 long episode. There's a lot of buckets that should be Hall of famers. 1313 01:43:57.479 --> 01:44:01.680 Anyways, Bucks talk, uh with our Damien little Bucks are now owing to 1314 01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:09.239 lost to Indiana Orlando Magic. Should this team be better constructed? Are we 1315 01:44:09.399 --> 01:44:14.920 should we be looking? It seems to be better coached. I don't see 1316 01:44:14.920 --> 01:44:18.720 a whole lot of coaching going on. I've been to three or four games, 1317 01:44:18.720 --> 01:44:21.840 and I've watched two or three. I'm glad you brought that up. 1318 01:44:21.840 --> 01:44:24.880 I don't see a lot of coaching. I'm glad you brought that up. 1319 01:44:24.880 --> 01:44:29.039 I just want to real quick because I feel like we have to be patient. 1320 01:44:29.840 --> 01:44:35.359 It's not time to hit the panic button. But once again, Giannis 1321 01:44:35.640 --> 01:44:42.399 is being lebron Yiannis scored fifty six points the other night and he still lost. 1322 01:44:42.800 --> 01:44:45.880 Why did he have to play so hard? Because Middleton didn't either play, 1323 01:44:46.399 --> 01:44:50.720 he didn't show up. He played, Dame didn't play. And if 1324 01:44:50.840 --> 01:44:56.800 that's going to be this season, that championship or bust, we might have 1325 01:44:56.840 --> 01:44:59.239 to rethink that. I'm just gonna put this out here real quick. But 1326 01:44:59.479 --> 01:45:03.479 first season, first season with the Bucks, we won sixty games, sixty 1327 01:45:03.520 --> 01:45:06.760 to twenty two. We didn't win a championship that year, but it was 1328 01:45:06.880 --> 01:45:11.560 promised there. Second year, we was fifty six and seventeen. We didn't 1329 01:45:11.560 --> 01:45:15.479 win a championship that year, but I get it. The second year we 1330 01:45:15.760 --> 01:45:18.800 were I mean, oh sorry. The third year he was forty six and 1331 01:45:18.840 --> 01:45:25.720 twenty sixth this year we won a championship. So my thing is but always 1332 01:45:25.840 --> 01:45:30.359 showed us. Last comment auga saw was taking his team to the playoffs every 1333 01:45:30.399 --> 01:45:38.439 year with Scross, who said this slaughter slaughter, Hey guess what it was. 1334 01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:41.800 It was his brother. He would have been his brother with alt Kobe 1335 01:45:41.920 --> 01:45:45.560 you add him. I still I still, I still stink bout that. 1336 01:45:45.880 --> 01:45:48.960 But my thing is I did watch Memphis back then. I ain't paying attention 1337 01:45:49.039 --> 01:45:56.239 to him. Why nobody did? I would only one. I wasn't only 1338 01:45:56.319 --> 01:46:00.319 one, I know, but I'm not gonna feel there, you know. 1339 01:46:00.279 --> 01:46:03.960 But my thing is this, I think is this? I think? Is 1340 01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:10.560 this how because KESI, we're gonna stick by your twenty twenty five games. 1341 01:46:10.920 --> 01:46:14.319 We we we stick by that to make your our prediction to see what the 1342 01:46:14.359 --> 01:46:17.239 bucks are at. I'm just saying going along with the coach, with the 1343 01:46:17.319 --> 01:46:24.319 coach theory. When when Terry Stout left, I don't know, man, 1344 01:46:24.359 --> 01:46:27.479 I just feel like he out there. He not really coaching, He just 1345 01:46:27.640 --> 01:46:30.680 throwing some stuff out there. Okay, y'all, guard you you're the best 1346 01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:33.000 player on our team. Guard the best player on a team. Uh, 1347 01:46:34.399 --> 01:46:38.439 we don't have Dame put in this this line and see what they do. 1348 01:46:39.399 --> 01:46:43.439 I don't know. I don't know, but all I know is maybe we 1349 01:46:43.439 --> 01:46:46.119 shouldn't threw away Bud so real quickly. Yeah, no, for real, 1350 01:46:46.720 --> 01:46:49.880 real talk. I told y'all from the beginning, maybe do we did a 1351 01:46:49.960 --> 01:46:55.159 better bench? I wasn't in I didn't really like the higher griff. I 1352 01:46:55.279 --> 01:46:58.159 thought that because giannice is at the point of his career where you need a 1353 01:46:58.279 --> 01:47:01.399 season coach, you need someone that knows the game. Then you're bringing in 1354 01:47:01.560 --> 01:47:06.199 Dame the one the thing, and I'm not worried. But what concerns me 1355 01:47:06.359 --> 01:47:13.600 is last season the Bucks were fourth defensively. Now we're twenty four only in 1356 01:47:13.720 --> 01:47:16.880 games eight were in game ten. I'm just saying, that's that came out 1357 01:47:16.920 --> 01:47:21.600 before game ten, that's that came out after like game five, maybe six. 1358 01:47:21.920 --> 01:47:26.520 Much much hasn't changed, but it is not getting any better. But 1359 01:47:26.640 --> 01:47:30.000 Boston has got the same point guard and then in the same boat as us. 1360 01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:33.279 As far as wins and losses, No they're not. They lost two 1361 01:47:33.359 --> 01:47:38.760 games, Boston seventy ten. Hey, here's another interest. Oh they just 1362 01:47:38.800 --> 01:47:41.239 lost another game. They just lost another game. Okay, no, they 1363 01:47:41.279 --> 01:47:44.239 won the game, they lost another one. So here's the thing. Though 1364 01:47:44.399 --> 01:47:47.640 they lost too. Drew Holiday, I still don't see that it fits well 1365 01:47:47.720 --> 01:47:51.439 over there for him because his numbers. Have y'all seen his numbers. He 1366 01:47:51.560 --> 01:47:56.520 don't have to though. That's the point, Like, Drew, you over 1367 01:47:56.600 --> 01:48:01.880 here for defensive assignments, I'm gonna score thirty. Jaylen Brown, Jalen Brown, 1368 01:48:02.079 --> 01:48:04.399 he's a twenty fifth time in his career. That's not what he wants 1369 01:48:04.399 --> 01:48:09.079 to do right now, starts seventy. That's why I figured they lost two 1370 01:48:09.159 --> 01:48:12.880 games real quick. Philadelphia only lost one game. It was to us, 1371 01:48:14.079 --> 01:48:16.920 and uh we barely beat him. I just wanna put that out there there 1372 01:48:16.960 --> 01:48:23.920 last so so we're still above five hundred. We are still a coach and 1373 01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:28.800 a new superstar and again and I get it, Slaughter, I feel a 1374 01:48:28.880 --> 01:48:31.800 comment coming in the back of my eight I get it. Miami started off 1375 01:48:31.920 --> 01:48:39.239 slow, the Lakers, I get it. Don't sit here and act like 1376 01:48:39.319 --> 01:48:42.479 you're not worried. Now, I gotta seek it directly to you. I 1377 01:48:42.960 --> 01:48:46.439 like, we're not worried. He's a Chicago fan. He's what Okay, 1378 01:48:46.479 --> 01:48:48.880 we should have been stopped talking him a long time ago. Slaughter, your 1379 01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:53.199 your band from your band for at least two weeks. You're a Chicago fan. 1380 01:48:53.359 --> 01:48:56.479 All right, let's wrap it up. We've been taking your you know, 1381 01:48:56.520 --> 01:49:00.479 would be hitting the panic button right now, the Clippers. We'll talk 1382 01:49:00.520 --> 01:49:05.199 about that next week. But this has been another episode of ninety four Fee 1383 01:49:05.279 --> 01:49:12.279 podcast. This is your boy big Zeke, your boy Drey and your boy 1384 01:49:12.399 --> 01:49:17.479 keys. 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