WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:14.759 Yo, dummy, bit it's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this 2 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:18.160 for August twenty one, twenty twenty three. For the next hour or so, 3 00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:21.160 let me help you sort through the world of gaming on Game Mess Mornings 4 00:00:21.160 --> 00:00:25.559 Live with Me Jeff Grub. Today's today, Charles Martine is ascending, and 5 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:29.239 Nintendo talks about its approach to new hardware. But first, please join me 6 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:32.880 and welcoming today's co host a Game Mess Mornings. It's Jason Vanelli. Everybody, 7 00:00:32.920 --> 00:00:36.600 Jason, how are you doing. I am great, finally getting over 8 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:39.119 some jet lag. But now we are. We are in the saddle and 9 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:43.000 starting off with a pretty big piece of news that we were not expecting on 10 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:45.840 a Monday morning. Yeah, it was I kind of kind of came out 11 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:51.719 of nowhere for me. I love Chuck, I love Charles Martine. I've 12 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:56.119 yeah, so it's gonna be I'm like, I'm interested to see like what 13 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:58.719 my take even is because we haven't had time, Like you sent it over. 14 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:00.320 As I was doing the rundown, I'd like, run my kid to 15 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:03.200 the eye doctor this morning, came right back, sat down and the first 16 00:01:03.239 --> 00:01:07.040 thing I saw was was that message from you, And so I was like 17 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:11.480 okay, man Charles Martiney taking on a new role. Well, we'll get 18 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:14.239 into all that. But I don't know, Jason, like tell people like 19 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:15.920 what you know, who you are, where they can find all that stuff. 20 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:22.280 We've read your name on this show many times now. Yes, I 21 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:26.840 have been doing freelance writing in like some sort of like you know background, 22 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:30.519 you know, mercenary work for fifteen years now. I've have like over forty 23 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:36.079 by lines across fifteen years. I feel so old. But right now I'm 24 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:40.000 mostly on game spot writing news. In fact, one of our stories coming 25 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:44.120 up here is sourced to another site. Who sourced me. We'll get to 26 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:49.519 that. I love when that happened. Sorry. Yeah, but also MMLRPG. 27 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:53.359 I just did a review there over Stray Gods, the role playing musical, 28 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:57.359 which is okay, Yeah, prisingly good. There's like a weird tension 29 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:01.000 between the video game part and the musical part that kind of clashes at certain 30 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:04.920 times. That having a theater a bit of a theater background and kind of 31 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:07.039 like some weird otherwise, definitely check that out. It's fun. It's a 32 00:02:07.080 --> 00:02:12.639 fun and interesting idea. But yeah, so I'll I've had a Game Informer 33 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:16.919 article recently on Netflix games and everything that they're doing to build that portfolio up. 34 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:20.159 Yeah, I've been around, Jeff, Yeah, I've been around for 35 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:22.960 a long time. Well good, we can get you on the show in 36 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:27.599 person, said of just your text for sure, but we'll here. Yeah, 37 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:30.360 absolutely, And I'm glad you're back home safe and all that. So 38 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:31.759 all right, well let's get into the mess. But before we do, 39 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:35.439 let's explain what we do here most week days, I, Jeff Greb will 40 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:38.240 help piece your gaming life back together. That includes breaking news and maybe even 41 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:42.560 some of our own original reporting. For all these topics, I'll get the 42 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:45.719 input of a bona fide expert who will make me look smart. If you 43 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:49.560 are watching live on Twitch welcome. You can always listen to the show later 44 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:53.439 on podcast feeds by searching for Games Mornings, or find the RSS on giant 45 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:57.639 bomb dot com. You can also catch the show later with chapters and timestamps 46 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:00.560 on YouTube. Hello you Tube. Okay, we have a lot to get 47 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:05.599 into, so let's start the morning Mess with. Charles Martine is no longer 48 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:09.000 the voice of Mario. This comes from Michael mcwarder at Polygon. Actor Charles 49 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:14.319 Martine, known as the voice of Mario Luigi and Warrio in Nintendo Super Mario 50 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:17.800 Brothers games for three decades will no longer voice those characters. Nintendo announced on 51 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:23.000 Monday, Martine will segue into the role of Mario Ambassador, in which he 52 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:27.479 will continue to travel the world sharing the joy of Mario. Nintendo fans noticed 53 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:30.360 a change to the voices of Mario and Warrio in recent trailers for Super Mario 54 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:35.680 Brothers Wonder and Warrior Ware move It, two new games coming to Nintendo switched 55 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:39.599 this fall. After weeks of silence and speculations from fans, Nintendo finally confirmed 56 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:45.639 the change. Martine, sixty seven, has been has been the identifiable voice 57 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:50.719 behind Mario since nineteen ninety one. He first started performing Mario's chipper exaggerated Italian 58 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:53.840 flavored voice for Nintendo at trade shows, but went on to record the character's 59 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:59.039 voice for the first time in a Nintendo game in Super Mario sixty four in 60 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:04.840 nineteen ninety six. Jason, I hear this and I get a little sad. 61 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:10.960 I really like Charles Martinet. He really has defined Mario. And you 62 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:13.280 know that, as I say, like Warrior where he does like the entire 63 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:16.279 cast of Warrior where that sort of thing, and so I'm like, man 64 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:20.959 that that I'm sad, And yet how many people get the chance to sort 65 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:26.759 of like gracefully and move on from a role that they've been identified with for 66 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:30.360 so long and sort of oversee the next steps while they know we move into 67 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:34.720 quasie retirement at sixty seven years old, like this is a nice story. 68 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:39.399 Probably right, Yes, I would like to think so. I did have 69 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:42.959 a moment where in the last hour, since it's broken, I went through 70 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:46.720 the whole Kobler ross five stages of Greece. It was denial. No, 71 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:48.680 it can't be that it was anger. It better not be Chris Pratt. 72 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:51.920 That it would be bargaining. Can it be anybody besides Chris Pratt? That 73 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:56.279 it was depression? Oh man, he's really done and that acceptance just like 74 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:00.079 you said, maybe he just wants to do different and better things now. 75 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:02.360 At first I thought maybe he wanted to take a step back, maybe do 76 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:08.000 less. He is getting older sixty seven, as you mentioned. But if 77 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:11.800 he's going to be flying around the world as the Mario Ambassador, whatever that 78 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:15.720 means, that seems a bit more taxing to me than just recording in a 79 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:18.639 studio. If it was going to be less work on him. You would 80 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:21.680 think if they reverse it, he would keep voicing, but then somebody else 81 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:26.680 would be the Mario ambassador. Either way. If it comes out that this 82 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:29.879 was his choice, it was an amicable agreement, and he is just he 83 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:31.399 just wants to fly around the world to talk about how much he likes Mario. 84 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:34.199 I'm all four it. The man has certainly deserved it. Yes, 85 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:40.000 certainly deserves that. But if there's something else going on behind the scenes that 86 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:44.240 comes out later that may color this a little bit that I am slightly worried 87 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:48.240 about, but we shall see. Yeah, I think it's it does seem 88 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:50.720 to be like with him, like moving on into this new role of Mario 89 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:55.879 Ambassador, which is actually, you know, something he has mostly been doing 90 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:58.240 as well for years now. You know, he always shows up at E 91 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:00.839 three and then he showed up at a whole show up. It's stuff like 92 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:03.240 Summer Game Fest, you know, or like around the events around that time. 93 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:05.800 And I remember like one of the first E threes I went to, 94 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:11.399 it was him doing the digital Mario face where he's on a microphone backstage and 95 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:13.560 like he has a camera and he could see who's out there, and he's 96 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:16.519 like Brian Brian the shooting day, how does it go? And it's, 97 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:19.519 Oh, what the fuck am I? This is really weird? So I 98 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:24.600 you know, but but I'll say, whenever I've interacted with him in environments 99 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:27.680 like that, he seems to really enjoy that. So I wonder if he 100 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:30.839 views that as as more work or if it's like, you know, getting 101 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:33.120 into the studio recording new lines. Maybe that's kind of like that's a hassle. 102 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:35.639 Uh and and you know, I kind of want to rest, but 103 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:40.839 seeing fans that that's invigorating. I really like that. So I hope that 104 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:44.040 like this is that he came to this role because it's like, oh no, 105 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:47.800 that's that's something I would like to keep doing and can do now that 106 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:50.680 you know. Super Mario Brothers Wonder is coming out later this year. The 107 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:55.879 trailer definitely sparks speculation that the voices would be different. I heard it. 108 00:06:55.959 --> 00:06:58.639 I was like, no, that's Charles Martine's just when they he recorded new 109 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:02.639 lines. Apparently, very it seems wrong because denial, yes, oh yes, 110 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:10.000 the denial stage exactly. So now here we are and they say they're 111 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:14.680 going to release a video with Miyamoto and Martine coming out and like saying saying 112 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:17.639 goodbye in some way. Do you think they like introduced the new new voice 113 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:21.839 actor or do they kind of like just keep that in the background they kind 114 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:26.000 I think they kind of have to. And the reason I say that is 115 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:29.600 because we now live in an age where people are worried about AI replacing humans. 116 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:31.360 Yeah, so that if they're going to have a new voice actor, 117 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:35.079 even if it's a you know, a bunch of people one taking Mario one, 118 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:39.480 taking Luigi one, taking Warrio and all the different characters that he voiced, 119 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:42.759 you kind of have to bring them out so people aren't like, they're 120 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:46.560 not just replacing Charles with AI, are they. I also think that this 121 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:48.759 is a great way to start the next Nintendo Direct. They noticed they did 122 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:55.600 not say when exactly they were going to release that video, So if if 123 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:59.759 they have their normal September Nintendo Direct coming up in the next month or so, 124 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:03.040 that would be a great place to see him off, whether it's at 125 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:05.240 the beginning, in the middle, at the end, wherever they want to 126 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:09.519 put that. They know that that's where the most Nintendo fan eyes are going 127 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:13.000 to be at one place, and we can say our goodbyes for lack of 128 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:16.759 a better term, which also reminds me when I first read that message, 129 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:22.560 I thought he was dead. I also thought that I like even that you 130 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:26.000 said that, and I'm like, man, this white set on a red 131 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:31.439 background seems like the like we are honoring a fallen friend of what else? 132 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:35.240 Definitely not please, So I'll take Yeah, I'll take Marrio Ambassador over no 133 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:41.000 Longer Alive any day of the week, exactly. Absolutely. Yeah, I 134 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.879 think I think you're right that that, Like, I really hope that's not 135 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:46.960 what they're doing, that they're doing some AI replacement thing. I think that's 136 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:50.399 probably doubtful at this point, but you know, who knows. You never 137 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:54.519 know, and so yeah, I hope they come out and say, what's 138 00:08:54.559 --> 00:09:01.360 happening. Chances that it's Chris Pratt going forward, my head said, my 139 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:05.399 heart says zero percent, but my head says fifty fifty. Yeah, the 140 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:11.720 movie did make a ton of money, whether because of him or despite him, 141 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:15.039 So we'll say, God, I hope not, yeah, but we'll 142 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:18.399 see he Uh, he would be expensive, I think so they probably, 143 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:20.519 like they definitely if they're going to use a voice actor going for it would 144 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:24.480 be someone probably that they so equivalent to what Martine was when he started. 145 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:30.360 But uh, just a Troy Baker. Yes, they were a Troy Baker. 146 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:33.759 That's that's the real answer here, that's what we actually need. Chris 147 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:35.519 Brant was fine in the movie. Like he did not get in in the 148 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:39.240 way and he did not distract. That's all I wanted from that from that 149 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:43.480 performance. So he was fine. I think you're right about the direct. 150 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:46.240 We get to the direct they are who knows at what point in the direct, 151 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:50.879 like you said, but I think, you know, in early September, 152 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:52.480 we should be you know, early September, mid September, we should 153 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:56.720 have a direct. I guess they have that Nintendo event in early September, 154 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:01.320 so I suppose maybe not maybe there maybe or you know, a direct linked 155 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:05.799 to that event. And then he shows up at that event and does Mario 156 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:09.000 ambassador ship. Oh yeah again, whatever that's gonna yes, whatever that's gonna 157 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:13.200 look like again, it's it's it's just him probably just standing and taking pictures 158 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:16.080 next to a Mario statue. And that's that's fine. That's great. I'm 159 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:20.080 glad that he's able to sort of have this nice, little relaxing point of 160 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:24.960 his career. Now. Although I got a I mean, how many new 161 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:26.679 lines was he ever recording for stuff? It always felt like they were using 162 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:31.240 the same lines for most games, and here and there there would definitely be 163 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:33.000 new stuff, for sure, but for like the core Mario games, it 164 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:37.000 always felt like, now, this is still the stuff from Super Mario sixty 165 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:41.440 four. Mostly that's probably not true. Remakes of Wahoo, Yeah, exactly 166 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:43.960 true. It's not a whole lot of intense recording, just a lot of 167 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:50.440 fake strains and occasional yips for Joyce exactly, just the excited Mario the voice 168 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:56.240 pack. Just go keep that downloaded forever, all right. Nintendo Boss is 169 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:00.360 talking about the company's approach to new tech. This is from Nintendo Everything. 170 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:05.440 Nintendo President Shuntaro for Okawa has weighed in on how the company approaches new technology, 171 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:11.000 and an interview with NHK translated by Nintendo Everything, for Okawa indicated, 172 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:13.519 rather than pursuing tech for the sake of it, it's instead about how they 173 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:18.559 can lead to revolutions in the act of play itself. Also mentioned is that 174 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:22.559 Nintendo is pursuing new technology in general, but isn't focusing on one specific area. 175 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:26.360 Here's kind of like the whole passage that's been translated. While there's no 176 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:31.480 particular technology we are focusing on at the moment, we are conducting research on 177 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:35.200 a variety of new technologies. However, I believe the most important thing for 178 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:39.879 our company is not seeking new technologies for novelty's sake, but rather considering how 179 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:43.159 they can lead to revolutions in the act of play itself. The idea is 180 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:46.279 that if we've become convinced that incorporating a certain technology can provide customers with a 181 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:52.879 fresh and surprising experience, then we covet its research more strongly, making investments 182 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:58.120 when necessary as well. Do you think that sounds pretty close to what Nintendo's 183 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:01.879 hardware approach has been up to this point, right? Do you think that 184 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.559 that's any different? No, not at all. This is them saying we 185 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:09.600 don't we don't care about cutting edge graphics, we don't care about top of 186 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:13.080 the line fast processing stuff like that. We want new things that are fun 187 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:18.799 and exciting and people can enjoy. Now that that pool might be a little 188 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:22.559 more limited. I think one of the things with Switch Too or whatever the 189 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:24.879 next switch console was going to be called, is how do you iterate on 190 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:31.360 the half portable, half TV based console, which itself iterated on the WU, 191 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:33.480 which was not a good idea, and then going all the way back 192 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:39.639 through their history, they kind of they kind of pigeonhole themselves a little bit 193 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.600 in being this company that wants to focus so much on new ways to play 194 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:46.480 rather than enhanced ways to play the older games. And I'm sure a lot 195 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:50.759 of their fans are, you know, appreciative, but also banging their head 196 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:54.240 against the wall, being like, we just want four K Mario and Zelda, 197 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:58.919 can you just once please give us this? But I get it. 198 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:03.879 I get it. Obviously it's worked for them. The switch continues to sell 199 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:07.960 crazy, and then the week goes without saying I worked gaming retail in those 200 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:15.000 days and I have flashbacks all the time. But to me, there comes 201 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:18.879 a point where innovative ways to play not they're going to run out, but 202 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:22.240 they're eventually going to hit those walls like the WEIU where we think this is 203 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:26.240 a lot of fun, but consumers they don't, so we have to move 204 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:30.879 on faster than we want to. Yeah. I think that this is still 205 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:33.919 the right idea for them, Like they should be exploring these ideas that get 206 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:37.120 like that are exciting and new. I think they just need to be pretty 207 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:41.360 conservative with the implement like the final implementation of a product. Right, I 208 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:46.320 think you have a core idea that works really well, that gets people to 209 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.960 buy a lot of games, you don't want to mess with that. And 210 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:52.960 I think, you know, for Akalla, pretty conservative leader of Nintendo, 211 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:56.200 is very unlikely to mess with with the Switch. We've you know when now 212 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:58.639 we've heard rumors that the Switch follow up is also going to be a hybrid. 213 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:01.879 Not surprise, but not at all. But still it's like, you 214 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:05.240 know, there's always the chance that they're like, no, we we have 215 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:09.240 this Miamoto stumbled on this idea and his attic and he's a good he's gonna 216 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:13.519 bring it down here. Now everything's different. I think that they should like 217 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:16.679 pursue those ideas that get them excited, just you know, wedge it into 218 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:20.960 the corner of what the Switch already is, kind of like the IR camera 219 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:24.200 and there. Now you know that that means a lot of times these ideas 220 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:28.759 might get relegated and get left to the side, But oh well, I 221 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:31.759 think that's just that's what happens. And I think if Nintendo wants to use 222 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:35.600 them and take advantage of them, they can. But putting them in a 223 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:39.080 place where that where when third party developers decide not to support these things, 224 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:45.000 which they invariably many of them do, ignore new features, it doesn't feel 225 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:48.759 like this fastigial tail sticking out the side in some awkward way. It's like 226 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:50.759 you're not even thinking about it, Like who honestly thinks about the inferred camera? 227 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:54.440 Who thinks about you know, any of the features even on like a 228 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:58.039 dual sense where it's like this is the main thing. It's like when a 229 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:01.919 developer doesn't support all the features of the dual sen it's still a controller. 230 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:05.639 It still works as a controller. Great. So it's like I think Nintendo 231 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:09.600 needs to kind of keep themselves in that realm for the most part, especially 232 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:13.159 because again the Switch has sold so well. It's their first console ever that 233 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:18.559 had more than a billion pieces of software sold for it. Yeah, they're 234 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:20.080 going to follow this up, and that's also part of their pattern to right, 235 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:22.440 Jason, you go back to like the game Boy got the Game Boy 236 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:24.840 Color and the Game Boy Advance, and the DS got the three DS and 237 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:28.559 the we got the WEU and it's it doesn't always work. Sometimes it does 238 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:30.799 though, but the usually when they have a good idea. They you know, 239 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:33.799 Nintendo had the Super Nintendo. So when they have a good idea that 240 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:37.120 does really well, you usually get a follow up that is pretty much identical. 241 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:41.519 And that that's still what I'm expecting here if they were to include anything 242 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:43.399 like for me, I'm just like put an SSD in there, let's call 243 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:46.000 it a day. But I don't even know if I expect that. Yeah, 244 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:48.720 I would say, oh, ed screen, which they've already done, 245 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:52.320 just made that the standard that there were some things that they may go back 246 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:54.039 to LCD No, once you once you open that box, you can't go 247 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:58.159 back. HD rumble comes to mind, and one of those things that it 248 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:02.919 was there but and that's exactly right. Yeah, didn't have doesn't have to 249 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:03.919 be there. One two Switch used it, I think, and that might 250 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:07.440 be it. I don't even know if the new one used it. I 251 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:11.440 think I think like some of the Mario three D platform games use it. 252 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:14.960 But it's like not like to the degree that once you switch used there where 253 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:15.679 it's like, oh, how many ice cubes are in there? It's like, 254 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:18.639 no, this is just like our our haptics, which you know, 255 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:22.120 that's good, but they're they're not gonna not have haptics going for that's going 256 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.840 to be a standard feature. Sure, No, I agree with you that 257 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:29.240 an SSD would probably be the biggest thing, or even some sort of internal 258 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:33.360 storage that is not as limited as the switch was. Yeah, there's there's 259 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:36.480 new two on board or something like three two gigabytes. The rumor is they're 260 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:38.600 going to include a lot more and the next one it probably won't be SSD, 261 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:42.360 but it won't be the slower storage that's in the switch now, which 262 00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:45.879 is e NMC. They're gonna do some of the mentioned I think it's UFS. 263 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:49.879 It's the follow up technology to eMMC. That's that's probably what's gonna be 264 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:53.639 in there, and that will be significantly faster. But it's like you know 265 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:56.159 that that's that's again, that's what we're talking about. Though. We want 266 00:16:56.200 --> 00:17:02.320 the same stuff, just faster and more powerful. And Nintendo will almost certainly 267 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:06.400 have some idea boomeranged into this thing that that it's going to be like, 268 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:10.640 hey, well let's here's a bullet point we will put on the box. 269 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:12.440 Here's what we're gonna go when we talk to USA today. This is what 270 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:15.839 we're going to talk to them about and get them to write a headline about 271 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:19.880 and and then I think they know that that is part of the forced obsolescence 272 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:23.359 process of how you move people from one thing to the other. You talk 273 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:27.079 big, I mean, everyone looks again. Sony's like, hey, the 274 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:30.759 the menus are different. That's why you got to get into a PS five. 275 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:32.839 It's a better man. It's like, this is underneath. It's the 276 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:34.160 same thing as the PS four. They just put a new code of paint 277 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:37.200 on top. But it's like, but when I spent five hundred dollars buying 278 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:40.839 a PS five, I'm glad these new menus. That's pretty cool. And 279 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:42.559 then I never thought about it again. And but it got me to spend 280 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:47.519 the money. And so Nintendo recognizes that, and and I think that they 281 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:51.880 will play with those ideas some and then kind of pull back and just have 282 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:55.799 you buy games for your switch to, like like you know exactly how we 283 00:17:55.799 --> 00:17:59.039 want. Now. If they come out and say that like Labo, the 284 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:03.359 the sequel to Labo is the actual box to switch to comes in and you 285 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:07.839 can manipulate that, then maybe we have a problem. But right now we're 286 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:11.440 okay, yeah, man, listen, Nintendo is going to mess you up 287 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:15.640 with some cardboard for sure, without a doubt that's what they did, all 288 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:21.079 right. Nintendo president talks and not resting on laurels in harsh battle getting people 289 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:25.480 to spend time on games. This is from my Nintendo News. Nintendo is 290 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:27.079 at an all time high right now. The Switch is one of the company's 291 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:32.200 best selling systems. Ever, the Super Mario Brothers movie was an incredible success, 292 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:36.680 a success, and it's still pursuing different opportunities like Super Nintendo World. 293 00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:40.599 However, that doesn't mean Nintendo is resting on its laurels. Furukawa, the 294 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:44.319 president of Nintendo, spoke with NHK and noted that the company needs to continue 295 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:48.079 putting out things that people truly want. He pointed to the fact that there 296 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:51.960 are many forms of entertainment and it's a very harsh battle and turing that people 297 00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:56.680 are still interested in video games. Again, full translation from a Nintendo everything 298 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:00.000 here. We always keep in mind that if we do not keep putting out 299 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:03.240 things that people truly want, they'll get bored of us. Right now, 300 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:07.279 there are various forms of entertainment besides video games. I believe that making people 301 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:10.599 want to spend their precious time on video games and Nintendo games no less is 302 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:14.480 a very harsh battle. We approach everything while resolved to the fact that at 303 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:18.759 any time people may start thinking they do not need Nintendo games anymore. And 304 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:23.720 I mean they're definitely right, and I think they see the thread out there 305 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:26.960 more clearly than ever because when they try to like have a big presence on 306 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:32.039 mobile, Nintendo games didn't float, right. They just they couldn't keep up 307 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:34.200 with what people wanted to spend time with on mobile. So it's not like 308 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:38.599 that Nintendo name is some key that unlocks success wherever they go. So it's 309 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:45.319 like they're in this this gentle sort of environment where they're hey on Nintendo platforms 310 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:48.920 when we're taking advantage all this stuff and feel special. It is special. 311 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:52.039 It's like, man, that that is a thing that could disappear at any 312 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:56.359 moment, right Yeah, and I think they need to foster it. You 313 00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:59.400 know, we talk a lot about Nintendo being very kid friendly and always like 314 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:03.440 go family first, and that's where it is a lot of what fuels Nintendo 315 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:06.759 now. While they do bring out new technologies and new games, it is 316 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:10.720 still very much rooted in nostalgia. Right, Like we're even Breath of the 317 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:14.880 Wild and Tears of the Kingdom still capture that original legend of Zelda feeling of 318 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:18.759 exploration. Mario is a still a two D platformer for most games because we 319 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:22.480 remember playing the original when we were kids. So they need to now foster 320 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:26.920 that feeling in the next generation of kids and make sure that they get in 321 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:32.160 there as they grow up and they can continue that nostalgic cycle. And that 322 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:36.440 I think is the big issue because you have things like you know, iPads, 323 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:38.680 as you said, in iPhones, even like the Amazon Kids tablet, 324 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:41.839 which every parent swears by. Don't believe them if they if they tell you 325 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.319 otherwise, and there's no Nintendo games on there. There are some you know, 326 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:49.319 avenues to kids YouTube who may be playing Nintendo and they get exposure there, 327 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:53.480 but they don't have the actual Nintendo experiences, and that's what they need 328 00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:57.960 to figure out. Do they release their own tablet maybe, or do they 329 00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:02.680 do something like that, or do they just continue to try to put their 330 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:06.720 software in other places where more people can be exposed to it. I do 331 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:08.640 not envy the people making those decisions, because, like you said, on 332 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:12.720 the Nintendo console, we expect it, we love it. Outside of that, 333 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:17.160 that's where things get difficult. Yeah, it's it's it's the kind of 334 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:22.839 thing where we've heard this sort of talk from other presidents from other video game 335 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:25.480 companies before. It's like, hey, we're competing with Netflix, and we're 336 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:29.799 competing with the people going out and all this stuff, and I think that's 337 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:34.519 all these companies are recognizing. Our competitors aren't really these other video game companies. 338 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:37.920 If people are spending time on video games, chances are they're going to 339 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:41.279 stumble over to one of our video games. And if they if they don't, 340 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:42.559 well we were never gonna win them over in anyhow because we're just not 341 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:45.559 their tastes. So but if they're playing video games, that's like half the 342 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:49.480 battle right there. It is people who are like, man, I would 343 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:52.480 play video games, but TikTok is just so much easier. It's just that's 344 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:56.200 just straight to open me right to my right to my brain. And it's 345 00:21:56.240 --> 00:22:00.519 like, how do you compete with this very free, the thing that's very 346 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:03.799 easy to you know, very accessible, you can watch it anywhere, and 347 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:08.920 new content it's just constantly being created for at a rapid pace. It's you 348 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:14.559 know, it's actually kind of impossible to compete with that. You sort of 349 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:18.440 have to establish yourself as something different special, and uh, I hope to 350 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:22.519 know, Like what this really means is they continue to focus on innovation and 351 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:26.400 that the time and money that goes into something like like Tears of the Kingdom 352 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:30.640 and Breath of the Wild, they recognize that as that is what sets them 353 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:33.599 apart. And it's like, don't look for shortcuts. Keep putting that into 354 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:36.799 the games going forward, and that if they do that, they're probably gonna 355 00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:40.559 be fine. Right. Yes, I imagine that as long as you know 356 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:42.759 video game the video game industry as a whole stage where it is, they're 357 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:45.920 going to be a massive player in it. They just have to maybe start 358 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:51.759 branching out into We talked about streaming services. They have multiple franchises that are 359 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:55.640 ripe for the picking. Yeah, as far as streaming shows are concerned, 360 00:22:55.680 --> 00:23:00.039 some people are even doing it for them on YouTube with fan and versions of 361 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:03.799 Star Fox and other things like that Fox and Space. By the way, 362 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:06.559 if you've never watched it, you should. Yeah, definitely will my kid 363 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:08.440 My kids love all the YouTube sort of fan created stuff, so yeah, 364 00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:11.880 that'd be good. Yeah, it's awesome, But like for some reason, 365 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:15.160 they haven't jumped into that boat yet. And I don't understand why Netflix plays 366 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:18.440 in my house more than anything else. So if they if Nintendo wanted to 367 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:22.960 get some of their faces Kirby perfect, even if they just put right back 368 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:26.319 at you on Netflix or those old cartoons on Netflix that they're not there yet, 369 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:29.440 stuff like that, just to get those faces in front of those kids 370 00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:32.920 so they start to recognize them. And then when they see them in Best 371 00:23:32.920 --> 00:23:36.200 Buy or a retail store, if those you know, parents even take their 372 00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:38.440 kids to retail stores anymore, uh, they're like, oh, I remember 373 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:41.200 that, what's that? And then all of a sudden we have a gamer 374 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:42.720 in now. Yeah, it seems it's I mean, am I'm making it 375 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:47.559 sound easier than it probably is, But yeah, I mean it makes me 376 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:48.960 wonder though, like what, like what is Why isn't it that easy? 377 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:53.880 And I'm sure it comes down to the Nintendo especially wanting to keep their hands 378 00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:57.839 on the product that ends up coming out as of one of these streaming services, 379 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:02.839 and also like there's always so many more like lawyers involved than you ever 380 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:04.599 imagine. I'm like, Okay, yeah, I guess makes sense, but 381 00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:07.880 boy, and that's why I'm like, I'm glad that these a lot of 382 00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:12.440 those fan things aren't getting sort of nuked from the internet. It seems like 383 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:15.160 the most part they're getting away with it. And I'm sure a part of 384 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.559 that is, like these companies are like, there's a chance parity law might 385 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:22.599 cover this, and we don't want to like enshrine the legality of this. 386 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:26.000 We want to be able to send ceases intosist in the future and hope that 387 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:30.920 they work. But yeah, I was just watching my kids watching a ton 388 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.279 of Pickman stuff and a ton of Sonic stuff on YouTube, and you know, 389 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:36.680 they'll they'll go watch the movie, but for the most part they're like, 390 00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:37.920 no, there's this weird Sonic video, but we used to want to 391 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:41.920 watch over and over and so yeah, well, even Nintendo letting that stuff 392 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:47.319 happen is good. But you're right, like the Big Mover and Shaker will 393 00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:52.400 happen when there's official of officially licensed movies, officially licensed shows, and obviously 394 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:56.400 the Super Mario Brothers movie prove that. Now, Nintino just needs to figure 395 00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:00.680 out what the rest of their very likable ips like, where do they fit 396 00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:04.319 in that that puzzle? But I don't don't I wouldn't be too precious about 397 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:07.039 it if I were them. Try a bunch of different stuff and see what 398 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:11.839 they can do. But yeah, overall, I'm just glad that when it 399 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:14.640 comes to the games, they're like, yeah, let's put a ton of 400 00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:18.480 time and thought into this and try to keep things fresh and entertaining and enticing 401 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:22.880 so we get more people over here. The Pokemon Company thinks it still has 402 00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:26.680 a long way we can keep going on new Pokemon designs. This is from 403 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:33.079 Nintendo Everything. Pokemon designs have been made across nine different generations with over one 404 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:36.319 thousand creatures, but it sounds like there's still plenty of room left in the 405 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:38.079 tank when it comes to new ideas. As part of a group interview at 406 00:25:38.119 --> 00:25:44.839 the twenty twenty three Pokemon World Championships, the Pokemon CEO Takado Utsunomiya was asked 407 00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:48.240 about challenges and coming up with new designs. This doesn't appear to be an 408 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:51.680 issue, as a new generation to developers will bring about their own ideas. 409 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:56.319 Ut Utsunomia also doesn't believe having a lot of Pokemon is a problem and mentioned 410 00:25:56.359 --> 00:26:00.279 we probably still have a long way we can keep going. Is this I 411 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:02.400 know this is one of the reasons you're out there. Is this your story? 412 00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:07.400 That they said found that, So tell me, like what like when 413 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:10.279 they say that, like, is that something you like, you buy or 414 00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:12.400 do you feel like they're saying that because there's no chance in how they could 415 00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:17.119 ever feel comfortable rebooting the Pokemon and starting there with a new one. Fifty 416 00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:19.920 one. I think it's the former. And he made a point when we 417 00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:22.880 were having this conversation. He said, yeah, there's a thousand Pokemon right 418 00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:29.359 now, but there are hundreds of thousands of real life species in the world. 419 00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:32.920 We have barely scratched the surface. They've only been to what eight nine 420 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:36.519 regions of the world maybe one of them one they've gone back to a couple 421 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:41.759 of times, so they still see plenty of source material just existing in the 422 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:45.559 world for them to pull the inspiration from. Now, granted, we still 423 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:49.720 get designs like cleft Key, the pair of car keys, but at the 424 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:56.200 same time me too. It is just you know, a set of keys. 425 00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:57.799 I lose them. I lose cleft Ley in my house. Ye. 426 00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:03.519 But but but I mean he is right or they have over a thousand, 427 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:06.799 which sounds like a ton, but the games have been out since what ninety 428 00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:11.359 five, six ninety seven, so it's a thousand Pokemon over thirty years or 429 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:15.119 whatever they're coming up on thirty years if my math is right, So that 430 00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:22.480 does leave a lot more designs out there. Do they start to decrease how 431 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:26.759 many they introduce generation to generation? I think next after Scarlet and Violet whenever 432 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:32.079 that is, is the tenth generation, right if if memories? So, 433 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:36.839 yeah, they could decide, you know what, all new designs an entire 434 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:40.759 game, tenth generation will add some later except for Pikachu. Pikachu has to 435 00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:44.079 be there, of course, So they're not They don't take money. They 436 00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:48.599 know, one fifty new designs plus Pikachu. But yeah, I mean it 437 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:52.799 sounds to me like they are not worried. They're not worried about making new 438 00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:57.119 Pokemon. They're not worried about new designs because they see like every time they 439 00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:02.160 choose a new region, that's a whole new ecosystem to pull from. And 440 00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.880 it does make sense, it does when I think about it makes sense that 441 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:10.680 they would go that route. But I also wonder how many of those designs 442 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.480 will be interesting creatures from that neck of the woods and not just a bag 443 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:19.400 of trash. I love trubbish, I love trubis be wrong, but trash. 444 00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:25.240 Yes, there's so many things in nature, but what's in my office 445 00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:26.519 right here? I don't look at that bag of trash I need to take 446 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:32.039 out. Yeah, okay, So the problem isn't maybe that there's a lack 447 00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:37.279 of inspiration in the world for these artists to draw upon. But is there 448 00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:41.920 a problem where, Hey, over a thousand Pokemon. It's hard for people 449 00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:45.759 to build attachments to these new Pokemon because there's so many, and many of 450 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:48.400 these are going to be forgotten and they feel less special. Is that an 451 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.400 issue that they are concerned about or do you think that they should worry about. 452 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.359 I don't think it's so much of an issue with their newer players. 453 00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.960 I think being introduced to this huge pool of Pokemon, people are going to 454 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.720 pick their favorites no matter what generation they're from. My favorite is from the 455 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:08.039 Gold and Silver era Hound Doom, so I've been playing them since nineteen ninety 456 00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:11.799 seven when they first launched here in America. So I don't think there's so 457 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.039 much worried about that with the newer players. Older folks like me like us, 458 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:19.039 Yes, because I don't remember all one thousand Pokemon. I had to 459 00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:23.160 look up what the one thousand Pokemon was and I had you caught it not 460 00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:27.799 that long ago in Scarlet and Violet. So I don't think it's something that 461 00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:30.279 they're ever going to worry about, because people are going to pick their favorites 462 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:33.680 anyway. They're going to have their favorite teams, they're going to remember fondly 463 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.119 the ones from the generations that they play, like their favorite ho End team 464 00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:41.200 or their favorite Sino team, and if they can bring that back up into 465 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:45.880 the new game, whether it's via something like Pokemon Home where it's the actual 466 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:49.720 creatures from those games, or catching new iterations of that same team, they're 467 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.640 just gonna do that. And they'll have your people who want to fill the 468 00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:56.319 poked X, You'll have your people who want to fill the pokad X with 469 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.759 Shiny's they know the players that they have, and you'll have the people who 470 00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:06.119 just competitively battle and only pick meta, high meta and competition Pokemon like like 471 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:08.839 all the ones that we saw at the World Championships. It's it's they know 472 00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:11.720 that they have a wide palette and they're going to keep doing what they're doing 473 00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:17.559 because it keeps working very much Nintendo like in the Pokemon Company's approach, which 474 00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:22.440 does make sense. Yes it does, and I mean it hasn't failed them 475 00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.839 yet. And so whenever it comes to like will the Pokemon Company change something, 476 00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.759 the answer I think defaults to know for just about everything, they're going 477 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:33.759 to keep the I mean, they talked about we're gonna look at taking more 478 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.319 time in the future. It's like we're commissioning a study, and when we 479 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:38.079 come back and it says we should take more time, we'll be like, 480 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.759 Wow, that's interesting. And then they won't. They're going to keep doing 481 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.400 things the way that they've been doing because it makes them a lot of money 482 00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:47.680 and it's working, and even when the detrimental effects come into play, they 483 00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:55.319 don't have detrimental results. So yeah, I until that's until that starts being 484 00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:59.640 a problem, until they actually see something negative on their top line or their 485 00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:02.599 bottom line, I think the Pokemon Company, we can assume is going to 486 00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:07.640 be business as usual going forward, all right. The Bethesta executive and former 487 00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:14.240 World Warcraft director have been clashing over Starfield's leaked title screen. Because this we 488 00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:18.079 live in a stupid, stupid world. This comes from Chris Kellion at VGC 489 00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.119 bethesa Bethesda executive. His clash with a former World of Warcraft lead over the 490 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:27.599 latter's comments on Starfield's lea leaked title screen. Former World of Warcraft director Mark 491 00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:33.599 Kern tweeted a screenshot of the Starfield title screen on Saturday and suggested that not 492 00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:36.559 enough time had been spent on it. The start screen of the of a 493 00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:38.640 game can reveal a lot about how rushed the team was and how much pride 494 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:42.160 they took in their work. Kern wrote, Starfield start screen either shows a 495 00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:47.160 hasty shipping deadlines by a passionate team overworked, or a team that didn't care. 496 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:52.079 Listen. I had to stop reading what he wrote. I think he 497 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.599 might go on here, but have you ever read anything to a start screen 498 00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.079 anywhere near that? Yeah? I've read one thing on start screens the words 499 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:04.279 press start, Yes, exactly, the press start and then I move on. 500 00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:07.960 Granted, some of them I do recall, but not for the design 501 00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:12.759 of it. Like Mass Effect is a perfect example. I will always remember 502 00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:16.160 that start screen because of the song Vigil. It just says mass Effect, 503 00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:20.160 press start, but I sat. I would sit on that screen while I 504 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:24.319 was doing other things because that song is incredible. Was I remembered by the 505 00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:28.759 actual look of space and that not yeah, it was fine. It's fine. 506 00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:31.079 That's not that's not why I stood there. I know you bring me 507 00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:35.319 on. You brought me on for expert analysis, and I appreciate you doing 508 00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:38.480 that, but I could only offer two words of expert analysis in this story. 509 00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:45.240 Who cares? Who cares? Just shut up? Who cares? Like, 510 00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:49.559 there's so many other things we could be talking about, even involving this 511 00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:52.880 game, and we're talking about the start screen. It is really it's puddle 512 00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:57.279 news, it really is. And this is like a different thing. So 513 00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:00.599 so okay, So it's like to skip over the detail. Like Mark Kern. 514 00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:02.000 First, Aul sucks. Mark Kerren, look at me. You could, 515 00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:05.799 you could tweet at me and get mad. You fucking suck. You've 516 00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:07.160 always sucked. You were a game or gay guy. You suck. Get 517 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:12.640 out here, like, honestly, just I never want to see you again. 518 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:17.519 Let's just be clear. You suck. But then that does Pete Hines 519 00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:21.240 came out and like fought with him a little bit. Again, He's just 520 00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:23.880 like, this is stupid. I think some other developers made some sarcastic remarks 521 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:28.079 about it, but for the most part, I think everyone regrets interacting with 522 00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:30.880 with Mark Kern and of course, like, yeah, that's all you're gonna 523 00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:36.039 end up doing, because this is just his grift now at this point, 524 00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:37.920 is to get attention. Maybe he gets some Twitter blue money. I have 525 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:44.799 no idea, but this, this sort of thing happens before every major game 526 00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:46.559 release, right though. The fud comes out, the fear, uncertainty, 527 00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:51.039 in doubt, and it's like this fertile ground because people are just so anxious 528 00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:52.400 about these things. It's just really, what this is is a sign that 529 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:59.559 people deeply care about these games, and that these sorts of concerns that if 530 00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:01.279 you were to put them in context, you're like, this is crazy. 531 00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:06.440 What are you talking about the fact that it can even even the people can't 532 00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:09.719 ignore an obvious troll or an obvious sort of just a dumb take. It's 533 00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:13.119 like, we can't because it's like, man, this game that we've spent 534 00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.519 years coveting and craving, it's almost here. We're gonna spend some money on 535 00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:19.199 it. And every time you spend money, you're like, man, I 536 00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:22.519 hope that's worth it. People are just to have this so much, so 537 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:25.400 much anxiety about this that it's like it's just manifesting in this puddle news and 538 00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:29.320 it's just gonna keep happening. I'm like, I wish there was some solution, 539 00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:30.679 but I don't really know if there is. You're like, I guess, 540 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.079 tell people go play other games until your thing is here, and then 541 00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:36.719 just maybe not put so much hope into these games. I don't know, 542 00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:40.519 what do you think? I I wish we would all like a collective light 543 00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:43.880 bulb would go off in all of our heads and we would care about things 544 00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:46.000 that actually matter in the game. No offense to the people that make the 545 00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:50.079 start screens. You do wonderful work, yes, and it's a very important 546 00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:52.280 thing. We have to press start to play the game. That's right. 547 00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.320 Ever, there are more pressing concerns in all of these games than what we're 548 00:34:55.320 --> 00:35:00.679 looking at. Also notable is this this This person's co to his bio. 549 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:04.400 His favorite game of all time is Krono Trigger and that is just a prest 550 00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:07.920 start screen too, Buddy. What's different between Chrono Trigger and Starfield? I 551 00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:14.119 don't really know. I do get like Pete Hines, you know, Papa 552 00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:17.920 Bear coming out to protect this yeah in exile, a fellow Microsoft studio, 553 00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:22.480 you know, coming out as joking around to just stick with their brothers. 554 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:24.840 And sisters. I get that, but would I had rather? This just 555 00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:29.480 wasn't a story in the first place. Yes, one hundred percent, Yes, 556 00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:35.639 yep, definitely, Mark Curtins should go spend hundreds of thousand dollars bringing 557 00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:38.119 that Factor five thing to every packs for ten years. Again, that was 558 00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:44.119 a giving some money. Get under the bush now Factor five red five. 559 00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.199 Excuse me. Factor five is a good studio, though I wish would come 560 00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:51.679 back. Embracer Group net sales rise by forty seven percent in Q one. 561 00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:54.800 This comes from Jeffrey Rossale at Games Industry Dots. Embracer Group has published its 562 00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:59.599 financial results for Q one, showing growth in net sales and all but one 563 00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:02.000 opera eighteen segment. Here's what you need to know. For the period ending 564 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:06.480 June thirtieth, twenty twenty three, for the numbers, net sales are about 565 00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.119 nine hundred and forty seven million dollars, up forty seven percent year over year. 566 00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:13.880 A lot of that came from PC and console sales three hundred and sixty 567 00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.760 four million dollars up seventy four percent, and then mobile was down three percent. 568 00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.119 And so for their net profit they're looking at about two hundred and thirty 569 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:24.920 six million dollars, which is you would you would think pretty good. Like 570 00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:30.119 that's like that's if you were Embracer and you were making all these big purchases 571 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:32.760 and then you put out a handful of games that actually did pretty well and 572 00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:37.679 now you're making profit. That's you're good there. But the last time we 573 00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:42.840 heard from them talk about this stuff, it's like they said, in so 574 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.199 many words, what they have coming out right now isn't enough, and they 575 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:49.719 need to be hitting like so many more big games per year. And it's 576 00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:52.559 like, I'm skeptical, I'm already impressed that you've put out some stuff. 577 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:53.840 I'm like trying to remember that there was a couple of games recently they put 578 00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:58.239 out that were that did well. I think that Island two is the one 579 00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:00.639 I'm thinking of, like two million, three million sales. It's like, 580 00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:02.920 yeah, that if Embracer group puts out one of those a year, I 581 00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:06.280 think that should be good. If they put out two or three a year, 582 00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:08.800 they should be golden. But it sounds like they won't be golden even 583 00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:12.880 if they're profitable, because it's like they have all this death the service service 584 00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:16.480 I suppose, and all these other issues. But but yeah, overall, 585 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:20.000 like where what's your take on like when you when you go to like try 586 00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.480 to take the temperature of a of a big, weird, hulking publisher like 587 00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.599 like Embracer, and what do you think the future looks like for them? 588 00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:30.119 It always, it always fascinates me, Like with Square Innex used to you 589 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.559 know, come out with the tomb Raider games. They didn't sell ten million 590 00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:36.440 copies, so it's it's a failure, but it's six million copies that to 591 00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:39.480 me seems like you did pretty good. So to hear net sales rise by 592 00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:45.199 forty seven percent and they're still not happy. It's this whole like endless growth 593 00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:47.280 cycle. We always need to grow, we always need to make profit. 594 00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:51.639 Thing that is just you know, the current state of the world's economics and 595 00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:55.000 a nutshell. I do think though that any good news, any news, 596 00:37:55.079 --> 00:38:01.360 any good news is appreciated from Embracer considering the two billion dollars deal that fell 597 00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:06.599 through earlier this year, and the guy, the poor CEO or CEO whoever 598 00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:09.480 it was, you know, has to go on this roundtable interview right after 599 00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:14.800 it happens, looking like looking like his favorite pet just passed away, talking 600 00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:17.960 about how bad it is that this happens. So to have this, they 601 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:22.280 have to see some sort of silver lining here. Now, there are some 602 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:24.920 things that they have coming out between now and the end of the year, 603 00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:29.760 paid a three Warhammer, forty K Space Marine two Alone in the Dark, 604 00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.199 some other things, So maybe that keeps going, maybe it gets where they 605 00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:37.880 want it to be. Particularly in PC console savings are up seventy four percent 606 00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:39.559 year on year, and that's only going to get better with the games I 607 00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:43.719 just mentioned. But at the same time, I am curious to how they're 608 00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:45.679 going to spin it in a way that it's not as big as we want 609 00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:50.639 it to be, which will always confuse me. The key point about the 610 00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:53.639 the Saudi government pointing out the two billion of dollar investment when like they had 611 00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:58.639 their conference call right after that and Lars Wingo Firs was like, Hey, 612 00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:01.119 this is really bad. We wish this didn't happen. Investors respond to that 613 00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:05.960 saying this sounds like an excuse, and they were like that that's the one 614 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.480 of the big reasons that their stock fell so much. Is like, like, 615 00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:12.679 there must be all kinds of other problems. If you were coming to 616 00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:15.000 us with a sob story about something that went wrong you need to just come 617 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.760 and take that stuff on the chin and tell us what you're going to do 618 00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.239 next. They are at that point now. The way that they're talking about 619 00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:25.400 it now is we are where we've moved past that that's not an issue anymore, 620 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:29.960 like we are completely focused on our future. And you know, you 621 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:31.599 wonder if that, Okay, that's the footing they should have taken at the 622 00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:35.760 time. Of course that would have been difficult to take, like the day 623 00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:39.920 that had that basically that it happened, But they that is the story they 624 00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:43.880 need to be telling, is we do know how to make successful games. 625 00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:45.800 You know, Remnant two just came out and has already sold a million copies. 626 00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:50.599 And if these are the kinds of games that they are going to be 627 00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:53.440 able to put out and roll it from one success to it to another, 628 00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:58.360 there is no reason Embracer group shouldn't be able to work other than maybe it's 629 00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:00.719 a bit unwieldy, a bit too big. But they've been you know, 630 00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:05.119 cut cutting costs and I mean it's cutting some jobs. It's like and hopefully 631 00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.519 like, okay, well if you've done that, now that stinks, but 632 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.519 hopefully now that means that the people that are there can just keep working on 633 00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:15.079 it and actually accomplish something, and those good games can pay for all the 634 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:19.760 other stuff that's happening. I still don't know if if this company is in 635 00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.440 that position, because it's just it's so big, they've spent so much money. 636 00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:28.039 It feels like that might still be pretty far off. But I think 637 00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:30.760 I want Embracer to kind of keep doing what it's been doing. If we 638 00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:32.840 can rely on things like Dead Island two and Remnant two. Right, yes, 639 00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:37.159 they're going to have to have at least one or two more key titles 640 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:40.199 tent poles to hold them up, because they are they are you know, 641 00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:45.960 they're they're balancing on a tightrope here. They are very large. Unwilling is 642 00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:49.679 a great word for it, like you just said, because they went on 643 00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:53.559 that spending spree. I do unfortunately, I do not anticipate them being done 644 00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:58.480 cutting. I know they've said already that I can write more stuff, and 645 00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:01.920 that will lead to more layoff and more cursing on social media and all that 646 00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:06.079 stuff, which deserved. Obviously you're making this kind of money and you're still 647 00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:09.960 cutting costs of what's going on here. But yeah, eventually they'll get to 648 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:15.719 a point where they're where they want to be, and then they start being 649 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.760 more efficient in their product line and stuff like that. Maybe another mobile release 650 00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:22.119 there that was the one area where they were down, and Noble is such 651 00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:25.800 a money maker, they might have to figure out something there, but I 652 00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:30.000 don't. Again, this is good news for them. The fact that we're 653 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:36.519 talking about it so Maudlin is very strange, and you know, hopefully they 654 00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:39.400 realize that too. Yeah, they'll they'll just leave things alone exactly, and 655 00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:44.039 they could kind of just carry like build on this momentum. And because they 656 00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:45.239 have so many studios, so many games, they should be able to do 657 00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:51.079 that. I agree. Eighteen year called Duty veteran announces he's leaving Activision. 658 00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:54.119 This is from Kenneth Shephard at Kotaku. After eighteen years, David Vondahar, 659 00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:59.920 the studio design director at Treyarch, announced he's leaving Activision after shipping eight color 660 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:04.199 Duty games since two thousand and four. Vonderhart made the announcement on his personal 661 00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:07.800 LinkedIn account, where he confirmed he's moved on to a new project at a 662 00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:10.440 different studio, but didn't go into specifics. In his post, he also 663 00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:15.000 thanked thanked his former co workers at trey Arch and the Call of Duty fans 664 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.880 that have played the studios games over the years. Today, I'm sharing that 665 00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:21.920 I have left at Division in trey Arch after an incredible eighteen years and eight 666 00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.239 Call of Duty games. He then goes on to thank his co workers and 667 00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:29.440 kind of just just hint that he's going somewhere else, But again, as 668 00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:32.280 the story says, doesn't specify where. Eighteen years is a long time to 669 00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:37.400 be anywhere, let alone working on like one basically one video game franchise. 670 00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:39.880 There were some other things from tray Arch in that time, that Quantum of 671 00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:44.159 soulis game, maybe a few other things, but mostly it was David vonder 672 00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:47.559 haarst to call a Duty guy over at trey Arch. So that's a big 673 00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:51.639 career. He should be proud of it. And I also think it's cool 674 00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:55.039 that these these are big names from these studios can move on and start something 675 00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:59.440 new or go work on something new and keep their career going somewhere else and 676 00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:01.599 maybe with a little bit less pressure on them. I don't know, would 677 00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:06.760 you have a history, David Vondahar. I know you just said he was 678 00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:08.119 the Call of Duty guy at Treyarch, but I know too many people. 679 00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:12.920 He was the Call of Duty guy. That's true, Like when when when 680 00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:15.079 trey Arch would come around, they would be excited to see him on stage 681 00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:20.400 and see what he's bringing up. You know what's coming up from his studio's 682 00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:22.960 Call of Duty games. Yeah, this is another end of an era sort 683 00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:25.760 of thing. I don't think it's quite as impactful as the one we started 684 00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:30.719 the show with Charles Martinette. But for these these Call of Duty fans, 685 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:35.719 this guy has been a part of that, that whole student, that whole 686 00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:38.800 Call of Duty project. I would even imagine he was involved in projects that 687 00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:43.960 Treyarch didn't develop for all of this time. So to see him and his 688 00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:50.000 voice leaving now is the benefit of to the benefit of whatever studio and project 689 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:53.079 he's working on. Now we get to decide or to to speculate where he's 690 00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:58.440 going, what he's doing. Who pulled him away from this marquee franchise, 691 00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:02.239 Who had the financial packing, who had the h the idea, the ip, 692 00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:07.360 whatever it is to pull him out, because as you said, this 693 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:09.320 is an Eighteen years is a long time to be doing anything, and with 694 00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:13.199 a name like Call of Duty, it's not going anywhere. They're gonna make 695 00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.480 any Call of Duty games every year. Even when they say they're not making 696 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:16.639 a Call of Duty game, they make a Call of Duty game. So 697 00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:23.559 what could have been so enticing that he was able to be recruited out of 698 00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:27.239 this position? That is where my mind is. Yeah, and I think 699 00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:29.880 that there's uh, this is just a sign that there continues to be a 700 00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:34.800 lot of money out there to start up new studios, to pull talent away 701 00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:38.239 to relatively new studios, or even if they're established projects like no, we're 702 00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:40.400 going to pay the big money to get the big name over here to help 703 00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:44.800 us because we know that they could deliver a finished product in a reasonable amount 704 00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:49.559 of time on budget. Look, those things are are super rare, and 705 00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.639 uh, you know that collection of talents and so that these those talented people 706 00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:57.280 are in high demand still and the money's out there. So I think they've 707 00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.119 Vondeharts which is probably able to go get that. I think of like studios 708 00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:05.360 like Respawn, which of course came out of Infinity War Infinity Ward that worked 709 00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:09.920 on Call of Duty Modern Warfare. Respawn I had this huge burst of success 710 00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:13.400 after like you know, titan Fall, like tried to get there. I 711 00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:16.199 love titan Fall but commercially I kind of almost got there. Then Apex Legends 712 00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:20.239 comes along, it's a huge, huge success, and since then a lot 713 00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:22.400 of the key people at Respawn have left to go start their own studios because 714 00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:25.519 again there's a lot of money out there and they're gonna get it. So 715 00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:31.039 I think it's probably that fertile ground for new new projects is probably, uh, 716 00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:34.199 let's make sure I'm not muted to get excited at the space bar. 717 00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.039 I think that's what happened last time. No, we're good. Uh yeah, 718 00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:42.840 So I think that that that you're talking exactly, that's that fertile ground 719 00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:46.880 though, is just uh, it's it's It's probably a good thing because it 720 00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:52.559 keeps the dynamism of game development at the top where it's like, hey, 721 00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.440 if you get like you feel like run down working on the same project, 722 00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:59.840 go get your money, go work on something new and come up with a 723 00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:02.239 new idea. And it's like that's not really happening in a lot of other 724 00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:06.519 creative fields, but video games it very much is. So I think that's 725 00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:08.920 a good sign. Yeah, And I wonder if he's making another first person 726 00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:12.800 shooter or if he's trying a different genre as well. I think there might 727 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.480 might be some enticement there as well. It'll be interesting to see when we 728 00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:19.480 see his name next, and also how long it'll take. I don't know 729 00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:22.360 where this project is, right, And I mean one last thing, like 730 00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:25.440 you can imagine someone in David Vonderhart's position, position, where do you go 731 00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:30.360 from there? Right? Like exactly when you're a director, a big director 732 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:34.639 in movies, like you just you go from one project to the other, 733 00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:37.400 and you're you know, constantly working with either one studio or you're like you 734 00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:42.559 should go back forth between different studios. But if you like you're like David 735 00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:46.039 Vonderhart was an employee of Activision, and it's like and and okay, so 736 00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:50.960 can he get a promotion? What's saying? No, No, he needs 737 00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:52.719 to be in charge of call of duty, like he needs to be that's 738 00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:57.719 where it we need him. So it's like you've reached the top and it's 739 00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.639 gonna nowhere to go from here. And it's probably it's been in years price 740 00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.960 since he had his last real actual promotion. I'm sure he's gotten raising stuff. 741 00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:06.840 So it's like, yeah, you don't be able to move somewhere else 742 00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:10.000 and maybe move up the chain and become a CEO or something like that down 743 00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:15.880 the line. That's probably pretty enticing too. Yeah, that's true. Finally, 744 00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:20.440 Roadblocks facilitates illegal game gambling for miners, according to a new lawsuit. 745 00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:24.079 This comes from Kyle Oreland at Arts Technica. A new proposed class action lawsuit, 746 00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:30.119 as noticed by Bloomberg Law, accuses user generated metaverse company Roadblocks of profiting 747 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:34.880 from and helping to power third party websites that use the platforms of roebucks currency 748 00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:38.760 for unregulated gambling activities, and doing so, the lawsuit says, Roadblocks is 749 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:45.440 effectively working with and facilitating the gambling website defendants to offer illegal gambling opportunities for 750 00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:51.920 miners to use. The three gambling websites companies named in the lawsuit, Satozuki, 751 00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:57.840 Studs Entertainment and Roadblocks Wild Entertainment, allow users to connect a Roadblocks account 752 00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:01.599 and convert and exist an existing balance of roebucks virtual currency into credits on the 753 00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:06.760 gambling site. Those credits act like virtual casino chips that can be used for 754 00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:10.599 simple wagers on those sites, ranging from black blackjack to coin flip games. 755 00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:15.719 If a player wins, they can transfer their winnings back to Roadblocks platform right 756 00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:17.880 back to the Roadblocks platform in the form of roebucks, which again you can 757 00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:21.719 buy with real money, real money currens so has a real value to it. 758 00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:25.039 The gambling sites use fake purchases of worthless, dummy items to facilitate these 759 00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:30.000 roebucks transfers, according to the lawsuit, and Roadblocks takes a thirty percent transaction 760 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:35.400 fee both when the player cashes in and cashes out from the gambling sites. 761 00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:43.039 Roadblocks is a you could do anything in there. It's like this massive platform. 762 00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:45.440 I'm not too surprised to hear this. I'm even less surprised to hear 763 00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:50.000 that Roadblocks as a company hasn't tried to step in and stop this. This 764 00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:52.760 seems like the kind of thing and they'll be like technically illegal, technically illegal. 765 00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:59.199 Yes, just one more, one more reason to add to the list 766 00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:02.599 that my children will never play Roadbocks on it. Yeah, I'm not surprised 767 00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:06.320 at all. Just all the news that comes out with I feel like every 768 00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:09.039 month or every couple of months, we hear another horror story about things that 769 00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:14.239 are happening on that platform, and they just play ignorant and say, Nope, 770 00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:17.280 not our not our problem. It's it's you know whatever, Eventually that's 771 00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:21.719 going to catch up to them, and this, what could be a very 772 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:27.760 you know, profitable force for good because you can do anything, will just 773 00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:31.840 turn into the next Internet cesspool, which some might argue it already is. 774 00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:37.559 I Admittedly, I know I'm saying that you know all this stuff. Admittedly 775 00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:40.840 I don't have that much exposure to Roadblocks. I've never really played it, 776 00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:45.480 so I'm sure the things that it can do that are you know, family 777 00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:47.960 friendly or game friendly whatever are great. Like I know that there's a big 778 00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:52.079 indie horror scene on Roadblocks with different games that have come out on there, 779 00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:58.400 so I'm sure that it has plenty of things to offer. But none of 780 00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:01.679 that matters if stuff like that, stuff like this keeps happening where it's this, 781 00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.639 or if it's you know, like bullying on the platform and stuff like 782 00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:10.000 that. I I'm not surprised, just like you, I'm not surprised that 783 00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:14.239 this A is happening or B that there's a blind eye being turned to it. 784 00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:16.639 I will be keeping an eye on this just to see where it goes. 785 00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:21.599 But add gambling to the list I guess of things that Roadblocks is doing 786 00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:27.679 that it shouldn't be yep, absolutely all right, I as promised on Friday. 787 00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.159 When I miss this, I'll bring up a little bit of the Like 788 00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:35.559 a Dragon trailer. This is uh infinite wealth? Is that? What which 789 00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:37.360 if you're looking forward is the people want the guide in one and this is 790 00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:42.239 I think people wanted infinite wealth stuff. So there you go, look at 791 00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:45.440 that. There you go. That's that. Those some handsome men. I'm 792 00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:46.960 ready to go. I'm ready to get back into the world of Like a 793 00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:52.760 Dragon. All right, Jason, I'm gonna bring up the poll here in 794 00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:54.039 a second of all I'm doing that. Why do you tell people where they 795 00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:57.280 can find you? What you have going on this week? All that kind 796 00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.320 of stuff? Anymore stories like that you brought home from the World Championships, 797 00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:04.840 anything like that. There are a couple that I'm working on. One we 798 00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:07.480 visited Creatures, Inc. Who makes the card game. That should be going 799 00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:13.159 up hopefully by midweek. One other story that I'm pitching out there. I 800 00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:15.039 hope I can land that pretty soon. Look for your emails, editors. 801 00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:20.400 But other than that, I am at Big Man Finale on x or Twitter 802 00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:24.519 or wherever calling it right now. Also host a podcast, a video game 803 00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:30.119 and esports podcast, that was sponsored by a local radio station here in Philadelphia 804 00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:36.119 called Cheese Steaks and Controllers. So you can find me on all major streaming 805 00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:40.239 platforms talking about neither cheese steaks nor controllers, just the games we play them 806 00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:45.000 with. Next episode we're coming out probably tomorrow. I usually post on Fridays, 807 00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:47.920 but jet Lag could not do it last Friday. So tomorrow I'm going 808 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:52.719 to have out the World Championships recap episode and everything that I did out in 809 00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:57.960 Japan, have interviews with two of the Pokemon Unite casters, Spraggles and Zinks 810 00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:01.039 that we talked about the game and the meta and stuff like that. But 811 00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:06.199 yeah, news articles on game Spot, occasional review and feature at mmorpg dot 812 00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:10.000 com and me and also oh Epic Game Store news room. I've been posting 813 00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:15.639 some cool little articles there as well that recently started getting commissioning freelancers. So 814 00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:19.920 you'll see my name, did see. Well, yeah, that's that's fantastic. 815 00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:22.000 It's pretty cool, all right, So let's see. On Friday, 816 00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.880 I asked which God's will Credos kill next? Forty four percent set Egyptian, 817 00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:31.320 eighteen percent said Santa, ten percent said Celtic, five percent said Shinto and 818 00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:37.079 twenty three percent said American gods, which means the presidents. So Abraham, 819 00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:39.119 we can watch what where do you Where do you think he's going? Because 820 00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:44.400 they're done with Norris, right, they're gonna move on Norse. Sorry, 821 00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:50.360 I said Norris, Chuck, Norris Chuck, Norris. I think Egypt makes 822 00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:53.960 the most sense narratively, and also I believe they've been teasing I think throughout 823 00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:58.800 Ragnarok as well. But I would love to see Celtic. I think that 824 00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:05.559 is a slowly becoming a little more represented between Valhalla's DLC and Kingdoms of Amaloor 825 00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:07.880 reckoning if you want to go back and check that out. But I think 826 00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:13.239 any exposure to the Celtic lore is fine by me. I think that would 827 00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:15.719 be pretty cool. I think I'd be fantastic. I would really like to 828 00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:17.119 see that up. Honestly though, I think they could kind of do any 829 00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:21.800 of these or anything they do, they'll probably find a fun way of representing 830 00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:25.039 it. I hope it's Santa Santa. Well, they should do a Christmas 831 00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:29.719 special, right, I would die for like Christmas Nights, Christmas God of 832 00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:34.039 War, Like, let's go fucking destroy that old man, all right? 833 00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:37.559 I have a new poll question I'm gonna put up right now. It is 834 00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:44.039 Charles Martinet great or Greatest. There you go. We'll discuss that tomorrow. 835 00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:45.760 Well, actually, excuse me Wednesday, when we're back with the new game 836 00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:51.679 mess mornings tomorrow on Giant Bomb. We have the Giant Bomb Cast going live 837 00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:54.480 for you on Tuesday. The rest of this week, we're gonna have a 838 00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:58.519 lot of the normal shows. I'm sure. The hope is we'll get Blake 839 00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:01.519 Club up and running, with the Dan doing the final stretch of Sonico six. 840 00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:06.199 We'll have some other shows. I'll probably play some Mortal Kombat today, 841 00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:08.000 try to keep them trying to get through those story modes Mortal Kombat nine. 842 00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.800 I think I should finish that today if I get time. I think that's 843 00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:14.519 the plan. We'll see, but other than that, lookout. Just look 844 00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:16.360 up at the schedule. We'll post that after our meeting today, so I'll 845 00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:20.199 have all the information you need in the meantime. Jason, thank you so 846 00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:22.639 much for spending today talking with me about video games. Man. I really 847 00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:25.039 appreciate it. Happy to be here, always available. Just say the word, 848 00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:28.400 I'll come back. If you'll have me, we'll definitely get you back. 849 00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:30.679 You were great. Thank you everybody for watching. You're the best audience 850 00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:34.480 in gaming. Until next time, have a good one, take care of 851 00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:37.079 yourself and goodbye. And I forgot to take a break. I gotta put 852 00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:39.079 that in there. I'll do it on Wednesday. Jen