It's just like the old radio show with the addiibility to swear a lot from
the mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dods Jeep
Rams. It's bilified the Bill Moran Podcast and welcome. Thanks for getting your
pot on. Thanks for telling her friend. Now we hear that noise,
but I swear to god it did not go on the pod last night.
Alice doing the breaking make sure, but I didn't hear it. Hear it,
but it sounds like a phone going off. Yeah, it does like
somebody's trying to call you on Facebook, but it almost sounds like it's over
there. Yes, somebody might have been trying to call me on Facebook,
and I might. Yeah, I bet you're right. I didn't even realize
that I get so many calls on Facebook, Danny. It's unbelievable. People
trying to reach you anyway possible, did you? Oh yeah, I've gotten
a few of them. I've got this one guy, and I feel bad.
Is his name Joe no Ok, and he's called I don't know if
he's butt Dion. I don't know whether to answer it or not, but
I've gotten something. I have answered some Facebook calls. I haven't for this
guy. He's like calling at the oddest times. I mean, either in
the middle or something. One night, I was in bed and it woke
me up. Him right now and I'm like, no, call him back.
I had a co host to this guy tried to reach and he the
co host says, don't ever call me again because guy was annoying. He
was just a jackass. Well, today I got a phone call. Somebody's
trying to call my old band. I'm like, I don't even know.
We had a number of way to call us. It's just Facebook. You
just punch it through and it all it does is called that's how where you
remember we called it the woman? It's Tabitha. Tabitha was the chick with
the dog and they talked to her through Facebook. Okay, yeah, it's
I mean, it's a great way to talk with Sorry man, but Diggler's
Bridge is a fish n close it is. Yeah, that's right. New
band is Uh, don't know you? Yeah, I know what are you
gonna know? That's the name. Don't know yet, don't know what we
had the conversation. Are you trying to break my balls? I'm trying now
you are an Elvis fan. I enjoy Elvis. Yes, I think that
you should work on some Elvis. And you're also a Johnny Cash fan,
would you say yes, yeah, I think that. Um, if you
have a gig coming up in the next couple of weeks, do you yeah?
We Actually I believe we are playing. Our new band is making its
public debut park f Fest. Now what I was told park Fest was gonna
be scaled back or something. I guess we're gonna be playing in the back
of like where the old Preps was the Dumpsters. Yes, yes, by
Friday's Fish on Sunday. Now I want you to practice this song. This
is Johnny Cash doing Barbie Girl in honor of the Barbie movie. Hello,
I'm not a Johnny really, I'm a Barbie Girl in a Barbie world life
and blessed dude. It's fantastic. You can brush my hair, brushing me
everywhere. I can see Ty Burnette doing this. Yeah, can't you come
on, Barbie? Let's tell it the rock harlis because man, Barby show
me what? Yeah? Can you cash a state? Like? Actually,
I don't talize this deep fake? I have known it well. The mate
come out and say I'm not Johnny Cash. I mean the guy says that,
but listening to it, it gets towards the middle. I want you
to listen the butterflies fly away. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a
parting the us, kind of bringing it a little finally there there does a
little commentary from Ages that he does cold music. Hello be damn a sound
amazing. It's a little freaky. I mean, Matt was telling us last
night about the show I Am seeing this on Netflix called was It Fake Love
or Deep Love or deep fake Love or something like that. It's out of
Spain and you have you and your fiance go off to this resort, this
island, and they send one of you off with a bunch of singles,
and then they show you video and it could be like you just sitting talking
to a girl, but in the video they can make it so you're making
out or you're hugging, or you're embracing, and they and you have to
decide as the other, as the other partner in the relationship, who's not
there, who's not on the single line? Is this real or fake?
Danny cheat or Danny nuts real or fake? They play that David Coverdale song,
Who's This Love? Where is it? Ai? Yeah? This is
low. Yeah. Now I think here's another one for you to cut,
Snake. I think this would be a lot of fun for you to cover
that Johnny Cash song Barbie Barbie movie, Open it up. People are getting
very excited excited about this while it's supposed to be really good. Yes,
I know, hard to believe, but that's supposed to be good. I
thought they were doing a double feature with Barbie and Oppenheimer at someplace. Heard
that too. They're too opposite right on the spectrum, telling the kids,
all right, you sat through that. I want like you got to sit
through your grandfather's mind, sat through the stomic bomb called Barbie. You'll learn
about it. Bastards. Here we go. Get ready this night when the
girls stand around, dune in your face, you good scrute, good scrub
eating the gene she's wearing against up staring badnacanda. Unless you got I'm bagging
for that. Go and find that did strong and you did scribe cheers.
What do you think that's really good? I think you could do that's Ai,
and I think Danny. I think Danny, come on, how funny
would that be? You do a great elvis it would just be fun for
the band, Would they not? With they balk at it? I don't
know. That's what I meanted to see with this new band. Every song
we've has dany No, they won't do it. No, they won't do
it. Yeah, will this new band? Will they add what you want
to add? It depends one If it's in my range? What you want
to add? Again, it depends is it in my range? Would you
pick something out of your range? Sometimes you sing the song and you realize,
oh, or you know, I mean, I am the life of
the party. So it's a Barbie girl in the Barbie world. You are
a lot of Barbie's in park alf So that's the thing. This would be
great to play a park Alp. Hello, Hello, I'm not Daniggler anymore.
You know, you know it's probably jealous. I'm a Barbie girl in
a Barbie world. Yeah, less less, it's fantastic. Hair unpressed me
everywhere. I kind of baby got back mentioned undressing Johnny Cash. I kind
of like the AI thing. It sounds better than Joaquin Phoenix. Yeah.
Well, now the thing is, um you do wonder and I think I
think a lot of artists and this is why they're striking in Hollywood and stuff
is that they feel like they can live on forever. You could have Mission
Impossible, whatever. You could do one of my fastest and fastest, my
favorite franchise of all time, Fast and Furious. You could have, you
know, Fast and Furios, the two seven, you know what I mean.
You could have with AI and holographics. Paul Walker could come back.
Paul Walker could come back, and what happens to Paul Walker's family. The
thing that's interesting is how about Tupac. Didn't they do a hologram tour with
Tupac Billy. Tupac is still alive, Billy h I think they tried.
So that was actual Elvis recording and the videos where the new Jordan's listening got
him from the from the from the blog. That's right. Uh, listen
to this break. Thanks for joining ours that noon, and I'm Vanessa Murphy.
We start with breaking news first from our eight News Now investigators, Metro
Police confirming they searched a home Monday as part of the ongoing investigation into the
death of Tupac Shakur, the rapper who was shot and killed one block off
the Las Vegas Strip in September of nineteen ninety six. Sources say detective served
the search warrant had a home in Henderson, your Interstate eleven and wagon wheel
drive. No one is in custody at this time. We'll keep you posted
as we learn more. So they actually went into a home and investigated.
Nobody arrested. So they got to be coming up with some kind of lead.
Now. I thought they thought for a long time it was Shug that
did it, or Sug ordered the hit, or there was another guy Bg
and Sean Puffy Combs that were involved. Because Tupac was from the West coast,
yes, and so they thought that this may be the East coast like
coming after him, like Chris Rock always said. More people saw two pockets
shot in the last episode side film and he took a picture. Some guy
took a pictu from him right before he got killed. And it's the last
picture at Tupac. He was getting in the car right, Yeah, he
was in the car. He was a pocket. I got a picture and
he said he gave us he flipped his sign or whatever got the picture of
him and he got shot right on the strip. But I always was told
that, or I always thought based on the evidence that I had seen,
not that I'm some type of prosecutors from the documentary we know Danny. Yeah,
I'm talking Steve Cirki, and that they believe that they already had the
killer. But he was already on in jail for life. So what was
the point of spending all the taxpayer of money to prove that this guy had
killed Tupac, that they had already had the killer was going after I did
not know. I did not know that. But so okay, let's say
they bring Tupac back and they get this guy, they have to charge him
for murder twice yes, okay, yeah, this guy, by the way,
that with the songs we just played, the Johnny Cash AI and the
Elvis AI. It's called I Ruined It. Look up I Ruined It on
YouTube and you'll it's him, and he takes somehow he must feed the lyrics
in and choose the singer. And I don't know what AI. There's so
many AI apps now, you know, so many that you can take this
conversation have it turned into tweets by an AI bot. You don't even need
social media directors anymore. Right, we're just kind of hanging out now budget
cuts. It's a little scary, right, that's very scary. I think
I find it more scary from the the you know, security side of things.
And when we talked to Ahmed's Hasma yesterday, he's an r I professor
and a cybersecurity expert, and he was saying, like, you know,
there's a lot of stuff that goes on from other countries just trying to get
into the United States, and you do worry about the deep fakes, and
you know what will be taking as real and not real, and how are
you going to be able to determine what's what taking your voice and making it
so yeah, phone can pick they're dumping your voice, Dan's voice, my
voice. That there's a product called Pegasus too where they can actually this happened
to Jeff Bezos and his phone, where they get your phone number and they
could take control your number and get out of the number before you eat.
Anybody can even find out that you were in it and get all your information
make calls. Yeah, he was saying something about that too last night.
Ahmed I thought something similar to that with your phone being able to get in
and that the different levels of security, right, most people go well,
I'm not that interesting. It's not it's not that. No, just want
yeah, you're right, you're not, and go ahead to take my meanga
account. You're not gonna get anything out of it, like mattson your credit
You still mind from a sure credit score is gonna go down. But I
was used to say that when I was like paying off my student loans.
I'm like, yeah, hey, could you a double under your password?
I'm like, okay. If somebody's breaking into my freaking student loans, okay,
and they want to pay them, knock yourself out. There's nothing to
see here. You know you want to pay them, go ahead, But
of course, well it's taking your identity. If you have credit, that's
pretty good credit, understand that kind of thing that you know, let's be
facetious. Yeah, but I mean I know, yeah, No, I
carried it out of debt, there, didn't you. I did paid it
all off though. Look at you. I paid off cumulatively about fifty thousand
dollars in student loan debt and thirty thousand dollars in credit card debt. Paid
it all off. Wow, that's impressive. Yeah, very impressive, Danny.
Honestly, nobody would date me. For those five years. But yeah,
it's good to get fancy. What do you mean they wouldn't. I'm
just joking, but it all seriousness, like you didn't get money, like
in your your thirties. Man, tough, tough, sled and trying to
date. It's hard, man, if you don't have money. If you
don't have money, Yeah, yeah, it's it's tough. Women say,
oh, they don't judge by money. Oh yeah they do. All right,
I hang on it now. Now you've hit on something here, because
I think you're right. I think that a lot of times if you're dating,
it's about the experience and trying to do things that are out there.
Now, there are some things you could do that you would think maybe fairly
inexpensive. Let's say you went for a hike. Hike doesn't cost anything really,
but then on the way home, you want to stop at a brewery
that's near wherever you were hiking, and that's probably one hundred bucks, yeah
easily, yeah right. And if you pay off your debt, you can't
be taken out more. Credit card debt just makes no sense. It's kind
of a productive right. So you're like, nah, no, maybe next
time, honey, and there was no next time. Really, you dropped
Indler like a bad So did you? So you were dating? You went
out, Oh yeah, and if you said, hey, I can't afford
to do did you say I can't afford to do that? Um? Well,
I kind of alluded to it. Hey, how nay, I'm so
broke I can't afford to pay attention. What'd you say? Did you you
alluded to me? Yeah? I was like, you know, maybe next
time, old budget a little tight right now? Practice by sandwiches? And
what did they say? He always starts getting here? Yeah, And after
a while they just kind of like stopped talking to you. Yeah, you
know, so wow, because you really couldn't do anything right right. I
one time had a credit card declined. And by the way, it wasn't
for a lack of payment or anything. The card just happened to be something
happened with the card, the card and reader, so it declined the card.
Yeah, so the girls just stopped dating me entirely. And I'm like,
I don't look, my card works. It works. Look, we
could try it out. Slot this through your slot, lady. Yeah,
it's ended up being a blessing in disguise. She was nuts I later found
out. You later found out. Oh yeah, you have a record like
that. I do. Yeah. What's it like being your forties and still
single? I so you were going older? Oh no, this was this
was like fifteen years ago. Oh this is like, yes, well I'm
saying, oh she's yes, she's in her forties now she's still single.
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, maybe she'll like it's certain tells.
But that is funny because dating is something that I don't think people really think
about that it does. It can get expensive, yeah, I mean no,
and I'm when I say dating, just go out with your wife and
it's one hundred and fifty to two hundred bucks if you're gonna have a couple
of drinks and dinner and oh yeah whatever. Yeah, I'm glad I locked
in my wife before the pandemic and inflation because everything, no, no,
everything's really expect No, I pay for everything, and I'm proud of it.
I can do that now. I'm blessed to do that. But I
mean, like the price tag's gone up, yes, the price tag has.
Dinner used to be fifty bucks now it's like one hundred and all right.
I wasn't gonna even say this at all, Okay. So I was
running some around this afternoon. I was in here this morning working on Unfiltered
an Average and these other podcasts and had people in and out of here,
and I leave around. Uh, I did a quick phone thing. Is
this like the fishpole of of the strip? Here? People just walk it
up? You don't even know. So then I I go out and I'm
running some arians and they go, I'm going to stop into this place because
I know that they have this salad. I like it's it's uh like spring
greens with beats, right, and a goat cheese and glazed uh walnuts.
And then I like to get either chicken, grilled chicken or filet on top.
So I call up ahead because I know I'm going to be there,
and I say, this is what I want and I'll pick it up.
And I went there. So how much do you think that salad? That
salad was idle? I did not think it was gonna be twenty one dollars.
I did not it was twenty one dollars. I did not think that
because I went I went, wait what I actually did a what? I
never do that, Like I hear price and he's gonna fuck it. It's
money. I have a bad thing with money in that I always figure i'll
get more, I'll figure out how to get more. I'll just get more
and it'll come. I just know it. But now it's it's it's strange
because that was like, I was shocked that that salad was that much,
because I think in the past I paid fourteen or fifteen dollars. Even that's
kind of steep for a salad if you think about it, I mean,
if you really think, yeah, I think I honest to god, I
think a couple of years ago I bought that salad at that same place,
and it might have been thirteen ninety nine. Okay, now I might have
the grilled chicken on that one. Not that it matters, but it was
one of these things where I went, wow, that's expensive. Now.
I saw a story since you bring this up, about a woman who has
charged eight dollars on her restaurant check. People are now going through and itemizing,
like why is it this much? For live music? They put they
can charge you for anything. They can. They can charge you for end.
Usually they have charged for a cover, yes, but if they didn't
so on the receiver they had live music so there are like cobblestone first exacting
in that middle, you got it, and not even acustic jam in the
front. This is it, and I'm paying eight dollars. You got it,
and they're itemizing it. Now most people, I will tell you this,
I don't think I've ever really gone through a receipt, even if I
thought the bill was a little high. I didn't go through it. When
I was married. My wife would usually go, well, have me see
that, and then she'd take it because I just it's like my big thing.
It was always like, yeah, I've never done it unless ridiculous a
bag of chips, and all of a sudden, it's like eighteen dollars.
I wait a minute. Somebody else then responds to this going. I was
out with my wife. She had an old fashioned, which now some of
these craft cocktails are bringing back the old square. Yeah, two dollars for
the cherry. They had an item I stunned list two dollars for the cherry.
There's some places that charge for club soda. Yeah, so no,
but we don't need to. But and look, I obviously their costs are
going up as well. I don't think these people are doing it to try
to drive away customers. They got to know that as the prices go up,
you're running a bit of a risk there, aren't you. Yeah,
and here's the other thing too. You might want to ask some friends of
ours about this ass cap right, which is the how the artists get paid.
Musicians get paid. Right. They're coming around and they're cracking down.
There was a bar on the West Side. They got shut down because and
they got fined because they weren't paying their ass cap fees. You know,
for live you have live music, you have to like pay royalties. Well,
that may be why then, right charge, It could be why.
It could be all that. I mean, we don't know what the costs
are. It's an odd thing. I've never even thought about being charged to
hear live music unless I'm paying a cover, right, And usually if I'm
paying a cover, well then I know, I know the risks taken off.
I don't think this woman did. It was on some It was on
like a Reddit thread that I saw this, so I don't know the person.
Somebody else wrote one word. Ticketmaster was charged one hundred and forty dollars
diagnostic fee at the dealership to fix a seal around my sunroof, which I
pointed out to them it was hanging off diagnostic fee another you know what I
mean now, But again, these things sometimes they're just built in their computer
generated it's this is what it falls under, and so it gets printed out.
I'm even sure sometimes they're aware. Well, I've been places where like
you go in front oil change, yeah, and they top off your anti
freeze and they top off your your wiper fluid four dollar get on the wiper
fluid, like and they didn't even I said to the guy, who why
is this on? Here? I go, I literally filled it this morning.
There's no way you put a gallon into this, and he I mean,
he took it off. But I'm like, seriously, yeah, well
but but here's the problem. You're not I loved Yeah, you looked,
and I wouldn't. I'd go thanks, Fellis say around and I'm the idiot.
I'm the idiot, the idiot, because seriously, you're the consumer,
right, and I know the the old adage will say it used to be
that the consumers always right. But yeah, you're absolutely right. If you
knew you did that, I don't blame you, and you can go,
ah, come on, man, it's four bucks. Yeah, it's four
bucks. Do that to me, you know, and I haven't show five
more times today, my father. That's how my father found out the guy
at the gallant, because it was in the trunk, because I didn't have
a chance to throw it out. That's how my father found out a guy
was screwing us. Once that he knew I'm a mechanic, and he he
was. He was in a herd and he brought the truck I had just
trucked it. Every time we brought to the mechanic, we return it with
some new problem. We're like, wait a minute, I go, Dad,
I haven't driven this thing yet, you know. He goes, yeah,
yeah, it's just what he trusted. The guy he worked with the
oldest shop called part Time Automotive in Silver Creek, New York. Well,
he took it for an oil change. You couldn't get into this place for
the old change. So yeah, so he brought it to Jiffy Luber or
Lightning Lub or whatever. It wasn't for Donia And my father goes, you
know, just for the heck of it, these guy, I will try
to sell you anything. He goes, hey, could you check the governors
and the calipers on the on the truck. He goes, yeah, they're
fine, they're like brand new. And the guy and the guy that we
have you normally brought the truck. Yeah, you're gonna have to get those
change soon. I don't know what's going And that's when he realized the guy
really is a shyster. And my eye and other people tried to tell him
that, he wouldn't believe it. Wow, here's one last one. Here
got an estimate for in ground sprinklers. And I know what I'm about to
tell you happens, and it happens more in the construction business, and it's
not necessarily wrong. At the bottom, it's said additional cost three hundred dollars.
When I asked why, the guy said it was in case prices go
up during the two weeks. This estimate is good for now a lot of
times if you're building right, the price of lumber has changed, so they
would build in a cost of that so that way it would have the estimate.
And then if he came in under their heroes. Right. Yeah,
but in that two week time, it absolutely or a month, it absolutely
Because I was looking at building a house once and we went back and all
of a sudden the prices were up. The guy's like, yeah, there's
nothing I could do, it said price of lumber. We had a friend
that was building a house. They had decided to go just before COVID hit,
and then COVID hit with all the wooden a sheet and the the plywood,
and now that one that quadrupled in price. Yeah, the house skyrocketed
in price. They're like, yeah, we're good right now. Yeah,
it'd be cheaper just to run down on eighty four lumber and just hang out
there for a few months until you find your next place. We'll stay here
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The Zema was a test market here when I was in college too.
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Probably. I'm sure I drank zema. I know. I never I
never tried it. I did. I think they had it at Patterns.
No. Was it in glass? Yes, yeah, it was in glass
bottles. Like yeah, I remember when oh gosh, what was it.
Back in the late nineties, there was this drink that they uh it was,
oh gosh, I forgot the name of it. It took one percent
of the market. Then it just crashed. It was like this, It
looked gray in the bottle. It was like smeared off ice. I was
huge, Yeah, and then it just went away. Yeah. I think
you can still guess took it. Yeah, I think you can. Wow.
Yeah, it's like c K one, same thing. It was like
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it was just you're right, but I think you can still get it.
Oh wow, Okay, they should bring it back out of moth balls because
they probably like, no, it's it's it's out. I never went away
more right, I mean almost like Honey Brown. We used to hear about
all the time in our area from Genesee, and now you don't really hear
about Honey Brown. It's all these other beers, but it's still out there.
If you can go, you can go and buy it. You know.
Do you ever have a boss that um yes, oh wait, now
was a question try to keep close tabs on you or get it to you
to confide in them maybe a little bit or oh yeah. I was like
I always the naive guy everywhere I worked. So they dad, I can
fight some stuff with you, well, not confide in you, but you
can find the idea that I would find out the other ship that's happened and
around the office. You know, it's it's a stealth move. It can
work with some people. There are some secrets with you, but you gotta
be honest. With me too. Okay, sure, well check this out.
Now it's ten thirty a Sacramento restaurant must pay workers more than one hundred
and forty thousand dollars and after allegedly hiring a fake priest to get workers to
confess their workplace sit. I'm going, did they go to a spirit Halloween
and buy like a priest costume? He got a plastic cross in a fake
rosary? Why we'd get a great deal going? This is fucking father.
Dan sets you down and hey, no, what I mean too? Now
I gotta tell you, let's do it ash Wednesday. He's reaching into the
like cigarette butts and the ashtray. It's Tuesday and it's August. I'm thinking
that this is a dumb idea, a dumb scheme to paul in most places.
Then when I start hearing about where they're doing it, I don't know.
It makes perfect fucking sense. The US Department of Labor says the owner
of the Takorea Garibaldi also denied employees overtime pay and threatened them, As Alex
Caparello reports, Investigators say it's one of the most shameless acts of corruption and
employer has taken against his staff enlisted um an alleged priest to hear employees confessions
about workplace issues just to get the scoop. The owners of tact Garibaldi Garibaldi.
Okay, so we now know this is in Sacramento, California. It
is a chain, a taco restaurant chain. Uh and in that part of
the country on most parts, mean a lot of Mexican immigrants are there,
Okay, okay, all right, and northern California. I'm pretty sure.
Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure that the Department of Labor doesn't care about your
immigration status. That's not their branch. So they don't look they don't even
look at it. They just want to make sure that the working conditions are
And I think these guys, I think in another story I read about this,
they were withholding tips as well. Now I don't know if the tips
are like a tip jar type thing. I don't know, oh you know
what kind of I don't know if there's a sit down with the table service
or it's kind of like a fast food place located in and around Sacramento,
California, brought a fake priest into their restaurants, offering employees a chance to
confess their sins. One employee said they were asked questions like had they stolen
from the employer, been late for work, done anything to harm their employer,
or had bad intentions toward their employer? Father, Guido sarducy, I
told you that stuff in confidence? So how did they get the father?
Guo spirit? Halloween? But the giant fucking hand. Don't worry about it?
What did you do? It seems that Pope loss as wallet in New
York Park. Do they go into how they got caught? To the priest
turn Well, I don't know, but let me ask you this. That's
like leading the witness right where we heard that stuff. I've never been to
confession. You went to Catholic school. I have you've been to confession?
Half? Well? Do they lead you down like a path like that at
all? How many tissues are we going through a week? Kevin? With
no cold? They don't ask questions. My favorite in that scene in the
Grand Torino, Hey underage drinking very popular right here with the kids, Kevin.
I'm just trying to think, doesn't this company have an har department?
What do you need a priest for? If you got a r I don't
well I think we know why. I think they probably have a lot of
religious Mexican people that work at this thing, and they're they're playing. I
mean, you have a number of workers who maybe threatened, they're threatened by
their immigration status. They're likely Catholic, and to bring in a priest,
it just it brings it beyond, you know, anything that we can really
imagine. I mean, I'm sorry, I'm illegal, but he hired me,
so it's no. But it's kind of funny in a way. I
mean, sounds like an sounds like a radio bit, it sounds. Yeah,
it's a shitty thing to do. You are absolutely playing to people's fears.
And part of the thing the reason they did this, and I don't
know that this story that we're playing gets too into the reason they did this
was more or less to try to persuade through the priest, the fake priest,
for them not to cooperate with the Department of Labor that was investigating the
back wages, no overtime pay and the and the lack of tips, and
so they were trying to get these them not to do that. In the
United States, it's considered a felony to impersonate a member of the clergy.
I didn't know that, did you. No, in the United States,
of the clergy now, clergy is usually they don't use that term in your
church, do they know, Well, they can, but it's usually pastor
or I don't know, priest. Well, I don't know what the definition
of clergy gergy clergy when encompass everybody. Okay, So like because I always
think wife church that I went to online, yes, I could be clergy
clergy. Yeah, my wife is one of those and she she gets one
of those things that says clergy for her car to put on in case she's
doing a wedding so she can park wherever she wants or whatever. I think
it's yes, but yeah, it says clergy on it. It's like the
Sacramento archy. And that's good because I always think clergy. I figured,
you know, it encompassed everything. But I always think Catholic when I need
clergy. That's the only time I've heard the like as clural as the clergy.
Yeah, if he says they've investigated and quote, we are completely confident
he was not a priest of the Diocese of Sacramento. They've investigated. I
want to get a look at this priest so badly, like I want to
find out. I want to see the alphity war. I want to see
the mannerisms he had when he talked to people. I want to know who
if they got a Lutheran you know why a lot of out of work actors
right now, you know, I'm just saying, right any The US Department
of Labor took the restaurants three owners to court and one In addition to repaying
one hundred forty thousand dollars in back pay and damages to thirty five employees,
the Takia owners were also found guilty of denying employees over time over forty hours,
and that they paid managers from the employee tippool ilge these guys for the
scummiest of the scum. You're getting labor that probably they're probably not even paying
them. I don't know what the rule in California is, where I don't
know, I don't even pay them on They may not be paying them on
the books, so you know, still in some places in the South,
and probably not California, I think waiters and waitresses may either be on tips
only or very low pay. I don't think they have the fifteen Yeah,
to four. I think they're still exempt from that gale. They also threatened
employees who cooperated with the Labor Department, even firing one they thought complained,
and threatened employees over immigration status. The Department of Labor, Wage and our
Division is committed to holding the employers accountable, even with crazy schemes like this,
and we won't tolerate workplace retaliation or discrimination or threats, and we will
definitely take action against employers who do so, including with strange schemes like this.
I'm sorry, I know it's I can't. I can't help but laugh.
Don't you want to be in the room when some assault the board meeting
goes. I got it, scared of shit out of them. Hey,
Bob, we can't. We can't beat the shit out of it. We
can't, we can't threaten their line. We get no, no, no,
no, no no no. We go the other way. We get
my brother Joe to dress up as a pro priest. We call him Jose,
Father Jose. He's coming. Can you fucking believe this? These guys,
I mean, boy, talk about if that. Let me ask you,
Danny, there's a lot of things like I've always I've always been told,
and I think it's more of a courtesy thing that we shouldn't make fun
of other religions. We shouldn't. Now, there's one religion in the United
States that I think is attacked more than any other. Mine, No,
not yours. Jesus attacked, like literally attacked. They're called fucking crazy,
stay away from them. Oh okay, Joe's Witnesses. No, Yes,
Scientology. I mean people like I see what you mean in terms of I
see what you say, Like as a as a group, we would have
people come out and go don't go. Yeah, I would say Scientology,
Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnessed, then christian Catholics, Catholics, Catholicism, and then
Christianity. Yeah okay, yeah that makes sense. And somewhere in there is
the Jews. No, But I mean, don't you think in some way
I do. I really think that Scientology is the one that most people almost
equate with a cult. Yeah, okay, so you're talking about like most
cultists, yes, their number one, yes, yes, but I think
the most. But I think when you look at like the ridiculousness of some
religions and we go hard at it, and we've had We've had great,
great, wonderful people over the Tammy Faye Bakers of the world and the Jim
Bakers, Right, they gave us great fodder and how they fell and they
built these empires on people's generosity. Yeah, and again almost like this playing
to their faith. Hey, God wants you to send me the money so
I can have the private jet and get over it, you know what I
mean. Okay, so we made fun of that, We made fun of
that stuff. But I think scientology is the one that, I mean,
really, if we're going to say in terms of attack to religion, the
freedom we talked about freedom of religion. Man, people really kind of go
after that hard. Well, I mean before they wouldn't. It would be
taboo to go after them. And then finally like Southpark kind of broke the
ice on that. And when more and more celebrities started leaving, and then
that documentary Going Clear came out on HBO that blew the lid off the thing.
And then and then lay a remedy came in. She did a whole
series of Yes, I mean it was, but some of the stuff she
to the point where they were so cultish. She like her parents converted to
Scientology. She was like ten, and all of a sudden, her and
her sister like, don't have to go to school anymore. They just did
to work as receptionists at the Scientology church in downtown wherever they lived. She's
ten freaking years old. Now you don't have to go to school. Yeah
we got we got it. Don't worry about we'll take care of it.
You don't have to go with a religious exemption, right, I mean they
like the Church of Scientology, like we'd try to cover everything. Oh man,
yeah it was bad, and then they would literally these people in bad.
I mean it's look, I don't know. I haven't been there,
and I haven't watched a lot of these days. I just know it's there,
and it's always been in my mind when I when we say you have
the freedom to practice religion, I go, boy, that one seems to
get attacked the most publicly. Yes nowadays, yes, last ten years,
Yes, that would be. That would be my thing. So I think,
like, you know, if you're gonna play somebody these weeks, fuck,
you can't bringing a priest if you think you're gonna get deported. I
dear more Michigan, they're bringing any moms since the ruling people have gone to
the restaurant's he yelled page to leave negative comments over the owner's treatment of the
workers. Dude, why they're already dead. So if this guy's the owner,
are they going after him for the one forty? Are they going after
the I think the corporation. I think the corporate because it sounds like they're
a chain. They may be a chain of free I don't know. Um
So now I think there's a group. I think it was a group.
I thought it was for some reason. I don't know why in my head,
and I could be wrong. There were three owners and they owned a
couple different chains. I had not a couple different chain of these, And
how many are in that I don't know. So now the ones that are
actually behaving and doing well, they gotta take the money and the profits out
of those. It can some people to make good on the mistakes that this
idiot or these idiots made at this other place in Sacramento. Well, I
don't again, I think like that's the base and these guys own all of
them, and they're not I don't think they're up and down the coast of
californiaything they're just in but still reach. Oh gosh, it does it sucks?
I mean I think it's like a Bill Grays in our area. It
doesn't get their taxes, They're gonna find a way. Well yeah, but
I mean these guys were ripping these people. Yeah, it's beyond taxes.
They were stealing. They weren't paying the overtime, they were paying the right
just out of the chip. That's all horrible comeback and then playing to the
fears of your employees, who you know they're paying fucking nothing. How I
would you like to buy the way back back to this faux priest? Can
you imagine, you know, like, Okay, hey father, I got
a problem. Can you come to my house. I need counseling. Oh,
father, Gill is sick. You know I can't make it tonight.
I'll pray for you though, How about I do he'll marry on the phone.
I mean, because like these guys, like all of a sudden,
these people who are willing to confess are probably also like need counseling and help,
and they probably went to this people. Okay, I wonder if this
guy I like didn't have a conscious I do think No, it's your fucking
relative. But don't understand, but tacos for life. At some point though,
like, at some point you gotta be like, dude, this is
this is really bad, Like, hey, so don't lay off Maria.
Okay, she's got like you know, because he didn't care what they say.
It could have been one of the other It could have been like who
knows, could have been one of the guys young twenty something year old sons
came in. Nobody's buying that. What a young priest who could have been
a daily been home depot too. Who knows, who's the youngest priest you've
ever seen? Besides that guy who plays guitar on YouTube? I used to
see a fairly young priest. There's a guy I went to Fisher with,
but I'm not young anymore. But he's a priest. He was in my
class of Fisher and what happened to him? Um, I don't I think
he's in the Buffalo area as a priest. Okay, yeah, I don't
know. He was always that way. Oh oh no, not in that
way. No, I know what you mean. It was always it was
born that way. I don't know. Some people do use it as their
therapist and if you don't have insurance and you need somebody to talk to,
and if if they're not leading you down the path going porn right you know
which I don't think they did, right. Yeah, if they just listen,
then that's it. It is weird though, yea. They listen,
then they tell you your your penance. Did you have to go into like
a little booth with a screen between at school? No, because there wasn't
one at school. You would just go into an office and you would talk
to like actual church. Yeah, there's the room with the screen. It's
weird, but they can tell who it is, right, has the instinctive
your voices. Wow, you once had to get some guys off the hook
with the FCC through confessions. You ever hear this story? No? Okay,
So jea fisher Now University used to have a radio station and it was
on an AM signal a week AM signal, and they couldn't only shoot it
so far. And so the guys from the radio station back in like the
sixties or seventies decided to somehow jerry rigged this thing that could have like repeated
the signal. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, So they hung this thing
on four ninety and the signal went out and it was bleeding into other signals.
So the FCC caught wind, of course, so they come back to
the school, so they do an investigation. So the priests had to get
involved because they don't want the kids to get told the go if you tell
me through confession, I don't have to say who did it, but we
could get the problem solved. So all these kids Catholic, are not Jewish
whatever, they were all going to confession that week, Yeah, to clear
their names. And the priests took care of it, and they got rid
of it and communications Hall of Fame. Now he should he should be.
He earned it. I don't know about some other guys around this table.
I'm kidding, but yeah, let me just I have to say this,
uh more, because it popped into my head as we're talking about this story
of the fake priests, and clearly and they're not really saying this, I
would I would think the immigration status of some of these people may be illegal
by the standards of the United States. We hear a lot about the immigration
problem in the United States. I will just say this, Imagine how bad
it has to be that you would be willing to come somewhere to do a
job that we don't want to do for less than we would ever expect to
do it, and then try to live and still be ripped off and then
threatened and all this. And if this is happening in this restaurant, it's
happening in other places. And I'm not saying that our immigration status is like
we shouldn't have. No, that's not what I'm saying. It needs to
be fixed. I don't know how to fix it, but you got to
do something because this country came from people from all over My family primarily from
Ireland. Yours from Italy, right, yeah, yours from st Ireland and
Ireland, and yeah so and back then, I'm sure that there was a
lot of I know there was turned up noses at the Irish. I'm sure
everybody at some point. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not saying that
the way it is is completely wrong. We do need to have some kind
of immigration. We need to. Yes, you have to for safety reasons,
for the for the protection of the citizens, for all that. But
man, when you see this shit, how could you be This is inhumane?
But I mean, and it's inhumane in a way that isn't the worst
we've ever heard, but it's kind of shitty. I mean, if if
we would call this bullying in a school today but in Paris, would be
fucking outright. It's still got to be better than the drug cart till coming
into your house. Shoot, I got that, I mean, but that
doesn't mean that I don't. I don't know hont it today, but I
didn't get shot. I don't know if that's the case. It could be
for some of these people. Sure, but I'm just saying, like,
just just that, and we need to make it better. Does everybody need
to come into this country? No, No, there's got to be standards
by which you have to and iguess what people still want to come here.
Yes, So anybody who bitches about America, well give them a nice virtual
backhand car. I'm just saying, like, you hear something like this,
And as much as the fake priest thing kind of makes me laugh, on
the other side, I go, boy, and this is a people willing
to go through that, yeah, willing not to fear because they don't want
to go back to where mere or wherever the country either, you know,
anywhere it could be, you know, from anyone but not here. They
don't want to go back to where they came from because whatever's happening here is
better there. You go. I just but we need to fix it.
Yes, how that is done, I don't know, but it does need
to be fixed. That's it off my soapbox. Coming up next, Yes,
we do have something very exciting coming up. I'm looking forward to it.
This is a gentleman who grew up in this area. He is a
nineteen eighty three graduate of Hilton High School, so that's forty years ago.
Forty years ago. His name is Dan Vinton, and Dan Vinton u in
town for his fortieth reunion high school reunion. But he is maybe one of
them most and I'm gonna say notorious, not necessarily famous, but notorious usually
has bad connotations to it, so I'll say infamous maybe people that class.
He's not known for singing. He didn't dance, he didn't play ball,
he didn't do that. He happened to be on a flight January fifteenth,
two thousand and nine. He was supposed to leave LaGuardia Airport at five pm,
but he got done with his business meetings early. He thought he'd get
back to North Carolina where he lives. So he jumped on to two forty
five flight that landed in the Hudson River. Laguaria, that's your first problem.
Like if you ever get a trip ticket to New York and you fly
in to JFK and then you fly back from LaGuardia and the trip ticket tells
you you know this is LaGuardia, right, Are you sure? Yeah?
So we will hear about what it was like to be on that flight that
Sully landed in the Hudson River on January fifteenth, two thousand and nine.
We'll do that next. You know what you need after something like that?
Laughs? Baby laughs, Yeah, that too. Comedy at the Carlson is
where you can find some laughs. And I'm going to tell you tonight and
Thursday night it is the semi finals of the Funniest Person in Rochester. I've
been hosting this for a number of years and I always hesitate to say anything
because every year they have great contestants. There are some people in this contest
this year that have literally leaped off the stage in my mind, you know
how I mean, they're so good. The Rochester's getting funnier. Well,
there's some there's some young people in this that I go, we're bringing them
in there. You're gonna see this person on TV someday. They're they're that
good in that. That's why people want to get into this country, so
they can get into these comedy contests. I'm just telling you that if you
want to go, if you want to have one of those, I saw
them when Moments get to Comedy at the Carlson Wednesday or Thursday or both nights,
and then again for the finals in August twelfth, because it is it
is fantastic. These and these next two shows are gonna be really really tough
to decide because it's some of the best talent I think they've ever had in
a competition like this. Cool yeah overall, Like Doug's got some competition,
Yeah, Doug has some competition, and Doug is absolutely one of the leaders
in the clubhouse without a doubt. Comedy at the Carlson. You can find
out more online at Carlson Comedy dot com. Mac of All Trades the name
says it all five eight five two O two ninety two eighteen and Mac of
All Trades dot net. So Paul, a race that was supposed to happen
July third, but because Mother Nature had other plans, is now going to
happen tonight. And mother Nature is cooperating full. She's taking all of her
meds and we're ready to have a big night of racing. You know,
rain out and off for the last month, it seems, and uh,
now we're ready to put out a big show and uh give these these drivers
and fans a great a great night out. Yeah, I mean, and
there's a lot of action going on it. It's all the racing that was
going to happen on the third is going to happen tonight. Yeah, tonight,
We've got the Superdirt Curve Series Big Block Modified and they're they're they're a
great point battle going on there and a lot of great racing going on.
Uh. And then we're adding the Northeast Dirt Sportsman, which is also a
fantastic show of of drivers, uh coming. We were in from Canada and
all over the country. Now I heard a rumor that last week or recently
a young guy and it could he be in his teens? One. Yeah,
Alex Payne won won the race this week, and uh, this is
his first big Black Modified win. From Great Food right then from Canna Big
Wood Drives for Nardosy Paving and Emerson Oil. Uh cash roll. You know,
so the great great young talent. The week before we had another Zach
Payne. Um. His father has been a long time member of the racing
community, Mike Payne. Uh. They they got their first win. You
know. It's a lot of young talents, uh, both of the you
know, in their late late teams early twenties that are set in the stage
for for the future of Cannadagwoo. I really like hearing that, I really
do. I think that's very exciting. And I gotta tell you, man
that that those are nerves of steel to be that young and that poise,
because that is um tight racing in there, and and they're and they're not
doing it against nobody's I mean, Farfield's full of full of very stout,
significantly seasoned veterans. You know, they don't call the land of Legends for
for for for no reason. And uh, we're gonna we're gonna set another
story they page of the story book to night. Well, that's exciting,
and Paul, I appreciate it. I know you put on a great show
down there that people rave about everything from the JumboTron, the grand stands,
to the food trucks and the concessions. It's just all so well done.
We've got an American Idol contestant coming to night during the little performance beforehand to
the national anthems for us. Uh. You know, there's a lot,
a lot of green things going on about. Enjoy the food. Enjoy uh
you know, stop out after work, you hi, Enjoy nice summer evening
at the track. Land of Legends twenty a twenty County Road ten to Tero
Cutty Fairgrounds. Racing starts at seven. Racing starts at seven, and we'll
see you there, Paul, Thank you, Thanks, Bill leave vilified a
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two o six eighty eight sixty six. The boy Becausten. You need a
new sports guy on this show? Are you kidding me? Burrollo freaking Gardner
minshe's on the Colts. Now he's not the Philadelphia Eagles. You're gonna be
the lead sports guy. Let's get your shit together. Okay, let's strike
two one more. You're out of there. Tell them Billy boy Love the
podcast later and be sure to liken sub I don't know my third string quarterbacks
well enough. I better shape. I didn't know Gardner Minshew went to the
Gults. I didn't know that I did. Well, Why didn't you speak
up? I wasn't here, right, that's try. You weren't here,
all right? Let me ask you what's happening with the running backs. There's
been a lot of stuff lately on not getting paid. Billy Instagram, we're
running backs are upset. Now. I'll just go to Adam Schefter's Instagram and
I'll click a few I'll read them, and I'd like to get your opinion
on this running back, Sae Kwon Barkley. I think this is the one
that kind of is setting this off, so to speak. And the Giants
are not expected to reach an agreement on long term extension. They did not.
This was yesterday at four PMS. He's franchise, and he's now franchised.
With no long term deal being reached, Barkley is not expected to report
to training camp for the I guess with the rest of the team. The
Giants are not expected to see Barkley until later this summer. If then,
Barkley will have decisions to make if he is willing to report. Now,
out of that, a bunch of running backs started to make comments. Jonathan
Taylor, who is a running back with the Cults. Yes, Gardner Minchu
maybe handing him off to him every night. This woman walks by and it's
like nineteen eighty five and her I think I know her. Brgine Nielsen.
No. Yes, if you're good enough, they'll find you. This is
Jonathan Taylor. If you work hard enough, you'll succeed. If you succeed,
you boost the organization. And then doesn't matter. You're a running back,
is what he put down, right, doesn't matter? Right? So
I mean is that so do we? I mean, is that something that
we worry about or not worry about? No, as a running back.
I mean, let's put it this way. Ten years ago, the ten
one hundred best players in the state of California, about a third of them
were running backs. Right. Yeah, Now it's one coming up like going
from high school. Yeah. And the reason is because the game in the
NFL is geared towards offense. You're gonna say, no kidding, but it's
the passing game. The passing game. The game has gotten more explosive with
a passing game. Running backs have become a dime a dozen ever since Alex
Gibbs implemented yet tell your guy this implemented his zone blocking scene with the Denver
Broncos. I have a confession, debase, hang on, priests, I
have a confession. I need a priest to step in here. You went
to the bathroom and I said, hey, I got this call today to
put together go Danny's gonna go nuts. And it's the first of another one.
There's another one about it, completely different topics. Okay, but here
Mike Shanahan put together an offense where anybody could. So now running backs have
become a dime a dozen. Well, but are they because at this point
Derrick Henry says, just take running back position out of the game. Then
the ones that want to be great and work as hard as they can to
give their all to an organization just seem like it doesn't even matter. But
then they did. But look, Buffalo, what do we say miss the
running game? You need to balance the you need to balance things. If
Devin Devin Singletary one like was burned out in college, right, he had
no second gear number two? The offensive line has sucked for years. They
can't run through it. You still have to have blockers, and that's what
Mike Shanahan always had in Denver. He had an offensive line. You can't
run without an offensive light. Now, Derrick Henry is an exception. Se
Quon Barkley is an exception. But at the end of the day, it's
like paying for defense. It doesn't win you a championship. A quarterback and
wide receivers win you championships. Done the days of what happens to guys like
what's his name in a minut, Dinesota who it's not favorite, but they're
also somebody else. They can have them. New England's not gonna get them,
but that would be a helpful thing since they've really done nothing to help
their quarterback. I meant nothing to help mac Jones, right, I mean,
like I guess, but you gotta be able to hand the ball off.
But the running back position is now, it's a nice to have.
It's what the fullback position was ten years ago. It's not. I mean,
you nest you need it, but it's not imperative. The Therman Thomas's
and Barry Sanders and Mt. Smith of the world. That's over with.
Now, Yeah, that's over. It's all quarterback and wide received. Now,
if your quarterback could do what McCaffrey does and come out of the backfield
and catch balls and do that, that's valuable. Quan Barkley is valuable.
Uh you know, guys like but Zeke Elliott, guys like him are not
valuable anymore. They're just not Okay, all right, I got all worked
up. Just wait till the next guy. You knew it, I knew
it. Well, sorry, I didn't know. My somebody string quarterback Dan
Vinnon just sat down with my Carolina Panthers shirt on here, and I'll tell
you what you got. A great head coach. Former former Buffalo Bill's third
string quarterback led the biggest comeback of all time. Frank rych who I think
got a rod. It was the biggest quarter of it, I'll come back
of all time until the Colts blew the lead. I guess the Minnesota Vikings
last year. That's true. Yeah, you were at that game. Was
at the game? Was that in Indianapolis? No? No, the Buffalo
game. Frank, you were at the right game. You were there.
Funny, I know seven hundred thousand people who were at that game three D
howd the Colts play the Vikings in the playoffs? I didn't say it was
a playoff game, playoffs. I didn't hear it. I didn't say it
was a playoffs. I did not hear it was in December, lead or
I would go back and listening to tape, but I don't remember. I
didn't hear. I didn't I did not pay attention to thank you. Look
at you trying to weasel him Gianese skill. But I think that he's a
He's a great coach and boy nice. I mean, that's a franchise,
that boy. He went through a lot of stuff there. You got two
got two of the top three quarterbacks in the twenty eighteen draft ended up on
your roster at the same time, and neither one of them, now you
know what I mean, was also bought their second team. That's usually a
bad thing. When the Bills had Matt Liner to Vince Young on the team.
Vince Young, Yeah, Vince Young was one as well. So you
were at the frank. You've had some quite quite the history of things that
you've lived through. Yeah, I lived through that game. No, Yeah,
it's like but I remember the people leaving the stands, you know,
I mean sure, and I was like, they let him back in one
more set it down, just one more, you know, and then I'm
out right, yeah, And that's when we just never sat down. It
just went. It was the best best game ever I've ever seen. And
then of course the people are trying to get back in the stadium. Yeah,
my cousins did security. Chase Security ran security for the Bills, and
they had a good special permission from the NFL to allow the fans back of
the stadium. You had to let him back. Who could I mean they
did right, well, they did. Yeah. I mean it's one of
these things where sometimes at the comedy club, like late at night, all
of a sudden, you know, Dave Chappelle steps on stage, everybody's head
now and they try I'm running back in the thing you worry about with that
now and the stadium you got a little more room. But in a room
like that, somebody's gonna get trampled. Well, that's what almost happened to
the Well did happen at the Armory? That is what happened at the Armory.
But this would be people trying to get back in and excited Dan is
here why don't If you don't mind, We'll take one brief little break Dan,
and then we'll get into Because Dan is I think we talked about you
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so you grew up in the area. You're back for your Can you
believe it's forty years forty years fast? At that forty years ago? Very
fast? Yeah, it's amazing. I mean you think about all the things
he did in life, but then you go, holy shit, how did
I end up here? Right? Yeah? And I see the old all
the people there, and yeah, just I don't know, it just blows
your mind. Is there anybody that you looked at you went I'm glad they
went bad. Not bad in terms of like losing money or anything, just
they just don't look as good. They just don't look as good Dan,
the girl that turned you down, the guy that thought he was all that,
you know, I gotta say no comment. They're yeah over. But
Dan has a story that I'm sure he's been asked about a million times.
I hope you're not sick of talking about it, and maybe we'll have a
slightly different questions. I don't know, I hope so sure, so we
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revived that song was Tommy Boy where they're singing it in the car. Yeah,
yeah, a little cultural moment, little perspective on it. Uh,
Dan Vinton is uh not just a graduate of the Hilton High School. Hang
on one second, our cameras are not working. Um, But he happens
to be a guy who traveled a lot for work based out of North Carolina.
He's in New York City. It's January fifteen, two thousand and nine.
Why wouldn't you want to get out of New York City in January and
get back to where it's probably a little warmer in Charlotte. And he was
scheduled to be on a flight I think at five o'clock in the evening.
Found out he got his meetings wrapped up early, figured he could jump on
a flight at two forty five, and he did. And that flight went
from LaGuardia to the Hudson River, you know. And you were on the
flight that that Sully landed. And I mean, did you watch the movie?
Yeah? Well I got to be in the movie. Oh you did?
Yeah? So it was cool, as they Clint Eastwood when he does
his movies, he lets the actual people be in the movie. So at
the end of the movie, they had a whole you know, a meeting
up with Sully and all the passengers just to kind of get the real people
in play. So that was a lot of fun. We had a great
time doing that. Wow, what was that like? He said, Dan,
don't try to aft this up. Well it you know, it was
pretty cool. I mean, you know, I didn't ask to be on
this plane, and I you know, of course not no one did.
At one point. I mean when he said Bray's for impact, it's one
of those thoughts like, shit, I could have been on a that later
flight. Now I'm going to die right, But ended up being one of
the coolest things in my life. On us, They've done some really great
things, so I'm going to take advantage of that. And so when they
were going to did the movie and the plane is actually in Charlotte, so
they had a fake reunion, which to us, it was even though it
was, you know, a tape, we're still hugging each other because we
still want to you know, it's like, it's not like you know,
So it was a lot of fun to do. Clint Easwood just does three
takes and we all come running in and we're hugging and it's just kind of
what it is. And then we did a few other extra things in front
of the camera, and then they showed what they wanted to show on the
movie. Okay, And did you get to meet Clint at all? I
had dinner with Clint Eastwood? You had dinner with Clint Eastwood. Now,
I was a huge Clint Eastwood fan. And I had to take an acting
class in college and I had to write a paper about somebody and I wrote
it about Clint, and Clint at the time wasn't the Clint that he is
today. I mean we're talking early nineties, mostly in front of the camera,
not so much behind the camera. And then there's even movies I've loved,
like everything. I even loved Bridges of Madison County, Yeah, which
I mean is a story, is such a love story, but man,
it's you. I mean at the end, you just feel it. And
he directed that right, and then did this. And I even loved Trouble
with the Curve, which I thought it was a little hulky, but it
was, you know, and then any any other I have a Grand Torino.
I mean, you just think of that, and I yeah, all
this stuff and iconic when it comes to American pop culture for sure. Yeah.
Well you know again, I was blessed where it really we just it
was just like a regular hit seating barbecue. Right, you just stand in
line and grab your food and sit down. After we did some you know,
makeup and wardrobe, which was really nothing, and then we're gonna do
the shoot. But they fed us, which was really nice. But I'm
thinking Clint's going to be in the back off, you know whatever, eating
whatever his dinner away from all of us. Nope, he was in line
and getting his barbecue and he's looking at place for to sit, and I
just happen to be right across from me, and he sat right across from
me, and he was with the governor of North Carolina at the time.
Politic conversation was very interesting, but sure it was. Did he start talking
to a chair at all? Like he did at the Republican But he's a
interesting got ninety three now and he's still making movies. He's working. He's
on set right now doing a movie. Yeah. What's he said? Don't
I just don't let the old man in? Right? Yeah? Yeah,
except that I did see him. And where did I see it? Ellen
did something where she went into his office, his office, Yeah, and
Clint stands up, he puts out food. There's chipmunks that come in or
something or squirrels and he leaves it out for them to come up to was
like into his office and eat and then run away. And he stands up
and he's got the old man pants. They're up his belly button. Other
than that, there's really not much as an actor in a motion picture.
Are you on strike right now? What's nothing to do? You know,
it's interesting. I mean, you know, again, got to be a
part of the movie. They actually have to pay us, right yeah,
because it's all union and so I'm like, of course I would have paid
to be in it, but it was just kind of you know, and
then we're waiting around for our check or whatever. So it was kind of
it was they paid you on the spot. Yeah yeah, yeah, So
I mean they knew it's just the one day's work. Already already had our
names written up with checks. So it was kind of funny. So take
me back to I mean, you're thinking you're gonna get home early, so
this has got to be great. And I'm sure you've talked about this at
nauseum and sometimes I don't know, you know, our memory can change some
things along the way, But do you remember, like even just sitting back
and almost all right, I get home or you know, that's usually where
your thoughts are. They're not sort of in that moment, they're in the
when I land. I got to X y Z. Yeah exactly, So
I mean I would like I sagain. I was lucky to get one of
the last seats on that flight. I'm gonna go home and have dinner with
my family, which obviously did not happen. And but I did get settled
in for like about a minute and a half. That's about as long as
as when we took off until when the birds hit the plane, and of
course there was no settling in. That was the most violent, terrifying anything
that I ever felt in my entire life. So you could actually feel the
whole plane then rock like like like a bomb went off. I mean it
literally just shook the plane violently. It was like take your worst turbulence if
you flow and multiplied by a thousand. Wow. And you know, and
I knew this. I mean I was hoping that's what it was was turbulence,
but you know, you know better. And very shortly you can smell
the smoke. Somebody's yelling the engines on fire and we're not getting any word
from the cockpit. Okay, normally doesn't your pilot come on? Yeah,
no words. So for a whole minute, that fear might have been even
more scary than when Sellie. Finally it gives us some sort of direction because
we're just waiting for the plane to blow up. I mean, you know,
was that a bomb? I mean it was at a missile. We're
in New York. I mean, isn't an amazing how because if you could
go back and see how long that time really wasn't I don't know if they
even depict that in the movie. I don't remember, yeah, if they
if they did or not. Do you know, do you remember if they
depicted that time from the time he spoke of the birds hit the engine and
then he spoke, Yeah, So the movie they did, I mean the
movie you know, of course I'm watching in the Eye of a Passenger.
Ye, this movie isn't about us, It's about SELLI so so depicting how
what they did with us was pretty mild compared to what we went through,
because I'm thinking, like that could have been forty five seconds, right,
but damn, does I feel like a long time? Well? Right?
I mean it feels like a long time. Yeah. So when the NTSB
interviewed me the next day, and you know, I was still in shock,
and they know the answers. I don't know why they even asked me,
but how long was that flight, mister Venton? And I'm like,
oh, you know, twenty minutes? Right, you know, when was
the first responder come to you? And I was like, that had to
been at least fifteen minutes, you know. I mean, you're like you
said, you you know, things slow down, right, and your brain
just takes in more. It's kind of weird. Yeah, what's going on
because you're just You're just this is just unique, I guess. Right.
So then so you think you're I mean your life's over. Yeah, I
mean so we're we have some hope, you know, with with not hearing
nothing from the cockpit until about a minute later when Captain Selley finally makes his
announcement, what's the what are the other paths? Sometimes? I mean we've
seen I've been on place where somebody starts yelling like out of nowhere and it
scares the shit out of you. Yeah, but uh, in a moment
like this where there was this rocky what you don't know. If it's turbulence,
then you're smelling smoke someone seeing the engines on fire. Are people making
noise and getting excited and agitated or does everybody sort of calm down and kind
of go into that almost that oh shit mode? Probably the second, Yeah,
I think. Yeah. I mean I remember the woman in from it.
You could tear she was just shaking and you can hear the sobbing,
but she was trying to keep it in, you know, And I think
all of us are just trying to figure out what was going on and trying
to mentally be prepared for whatever it is. There was a few people just
yelling, hey, what's going on? You know, we want some instruction,
But for the most of us, we were just like in shock,
waiting for Like I said, it's a plane just gonna blow up and I'm
gonna be dead at this moment. Right, Yeah, wow, that's so.
Then he says, brace for an impact. Right, You're in New
York City, right, what is it really thinking? Does that mean?
Does that mean we're about to hit the building and we're all dead? Yeah?
I mean for most of us we did feel that was the end.
I mean, there's a few passions that felt maybe a little bit more optimistic,
you know, or they could even see that we're going to land in
the water. I couldn't even see where were going to land in the water.
So brace for impact, like you said, Yeah, bracing in you
know, nine to eleven, you got those things. Yeah, absolutely,
we're not what are we eight years passing? Not eleven at that point?
Right? Yeah? Exactly? So then he you you land on the river?
What what's going on? Then? Well, just the fact that I'm
alive. Yeah, I mean, it's that moment because you you know,
when you're about to have that moment of impact, that's when you just saved
yourself. You just shut off. You know, I'm done. You know,
I'm not going to be here anymore. But you know, you're bracing,
You're getting ready for whatever it is. You're still doing your own instinctual
thing. Um. But then we glided along the Hudson River the way Sully
had to have the right degree angle for the airplane, and then we came
down in and that's you know, when we stopped, that's the moment I
you know, I know, I mentioned you know, I literally did the
pinch test. I'm you know, and I'm trying trying to not see if
this is a dream, I'm really dead, and I'm looking down and everything
was still there, and then all of a sudden, the picked door opens
up and sell yells evacuate. So was that orderly? So? And I
say that because all our lives, you went to Hilton High School. They
had fire drills, they had bomb scared or so. I'm sure all this
stuff of a plane in general it's not it's right, but but in this
case you start to wonder, now, what are people thinking, Like,
all of a sudden it becomes a I'm out for myself. Well, but
I don't know. Yeah, one thing we had going for us is we
had enough time because if we landed in the fuselage broken half, now we've
only got seconds. And so now it is kind of you know, who
can swim to the open open you know, crack in the in the fuselage.
But we had enough time to kind of get out. And so for
the most part, it is pretty orderly. The only part where it wasn't
orderly was in the back of the plane because the nearest exit in the back
was already submerged under water. But you were supposed to go to your nearest
exit. So that's what's in the back in your mind. So that my
my my friends in the back were trying to get out the back, they
couldn't. Then they start to come up the front, but there's still people
coming in the back, and there's a log jam in the meantime when the
plane is great. As Sully landed, there was a big gash from Row
twenty in the back and water's coming up in the back of the plane.
So I've talked to my friends back there and they, you know, finally
they're going to go to the front of the pane, but at that point
the water is almost up to their neck and they're like, shit, yeah,
I just survived a plane crash. I'm going to drown to death.
And I remember cold as this water. It's it's just a little above freezing.
It's about thirty two degrees, so you don't have much time. I
mean, hypothermia and other stuff will set in. Exactly. So, even
though I exited the plane, I remember looking back and seeing that scene and
people are climbing over the seats and I'm thinking, you know, I don't
know if I'm going to survive. I hope I do, but there's no
way. So are you able in the time of all that is happening to
get a text or anything off to your wife saying hey, this is what's
going on, or so I don't just one of those things where I had
a flip phone back then, so so you know, just to turn it
on a project. But there were a few passengers to your point, we're
able to get message. Can you imagine get a message from your love saying,
you know, my plane is crashing, I love you? And a
few of them got out. One passenger, Eileen, she was actually talking
to her husband all the way down and he was stuck in a car wash,
and so she's giving him a play by play and then all of a
sudden shuts us. Oh god, he's in the car wash thinking my wife
just died. Yeah, holy yeah, see, okay, this is where
my head goes. I'm the guy that has said many years, if like
one of my loved ones dies in the middle of the night, let's hope
that they're at that age right, right, not not something that's unnatural,
not a young person. But and it's the middle of the night, and
if I'm there, I'm not calling my siblings. Is up until it's a
decent hour. If they're still gonna be dead and nothing's there, I'm thinking,
if I'm on this plane, I may with all this chaos going on,
I may just navigate through and if I get out, I'll call and
go, pooh, boy, do I have a story for you? You
know what I'm saying. I mean, And it sounds like you didn't really
have the choice because of the flip phone situation. Thank god, you know.
Yeah, I'm kind of with you on that, I really am,
because you know, I'm a big believer in you can't burn calories and things
you can't control, right, But you can't help it when it's your husband
and the father of your children that's calling you and saying my plane just crashed
in the Hudson in the back if it's filling up with water, Yeah,
yeah, you're gonna be absolutely out of your mind. So I don't know.
I want to ask you a question though, because you said friends in
the back of the plane. Were those friends prior to this flight? We're
friends after this flight? Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, we're
very close. I thought, Yeah, that's interesting. I wanted to ask
you because think about all of us we've got on a plane and a lot
of us will get off the plane and a bitch about the person we had
the next two for the ninety minutes or three hours or whatever it is on
the plane. And yet an experience like this is something that you nobody else
can relate to. But the people that went through it with you exactly,
well, it's like you want to war with them. And there's something special
that really rarely anybody in this world has ever experienced. And we got to
our small group of people, so we have, you know, we're you
know, we have some people involved with aviation, you know, reaching out
to other loved ones and family members or other planes where maybe they weren't as
successful or didn't you know, like the Buffalo flight for example, that was
I was horrible that it was shortly after our flight, and so we as
a group, we're just trying to figure out what we can do to console
the family members and in a day we felt like we shouldn't do anything.
Yeah, it was really sad. But one note on that is um Jeff
Skiles, who's our co pilot. He goes to Buffalo every single year because
they have a memorial for all the family members in honor for those and him
and Sully have been fighting tooth and nail to get you know, pilots,
to get the right amount of training because that was pilot error. And if
you think and if they had Sully that day, they'll be you know,
they'll be alive. So this is a flood of New York I'm assuming this
is a direct to Charlotte. All these people that you're you're friends with,
Now, are they all from the Charlotte area for the most part, or
and you got people from connecting to other portions of the country. Yeah,
so it's it's a mixed bag. About one hundred people from Charlotte. It
was a Thursday afternoon flight, so it was a business flight. A lot
of people are going home for the week, and so it was about a
hundred of us, including myself, but there were some families on there.
And then of course there was Charlotte's a hub, so they're connecting throughout the
country. So I kind of feel bad for them because when we have gatherings
in Charlotte, that's not you know, they can't make it, or some
will try, but it's a little bit more harder than just you get in
my car and meeting up with some of my friends. So after this experience,
how hard was it to get back on a plane. Yeah, I
mean everything outside of flying was just freaking awesome. You know, I can't
explain it. It's just every day got better and better. And you know,
my passenger friends they had PTSD okay, so and that would totally make
sense even you know, Sally claims to have some, and so did Jeff.
And my wife's a nurse, so she goes, once you get checked
out, I'm like, well, let's let's ride this thing and see how
it is. And every day just got better or I just I can't explain
it, but except for flying. But back then I flew a lot.
Yeah, and um so people ask me when to my first flight? And
you couldn't paid me a million dollars to fly home that night. And it's
funny I mentioned my Joe Hart, a passenger. He gets on the boat,
picks up his phone and calls us are and he goes, hey,
you got a flight for me? You know, and guys got no nerve
endings, right, and so you I said, They're like, well,
Joe, we got a flight at seven thirty. And he looks around on
the boat. He's like, you know, I don't think I'm gonna make
the seventh thirty because you got a later one. And so he did.
He went out, he went out, he went out later that night,
and um, so well, one of the odds of it happening again.
I'm kind of with him. I get it, well, I get I
mean, I think we all handle it differently. And I had pastors I
should have flown since since that's what I was for a flight sense. What
have you paid for a flight sense? Always? Yeah, yeah, I
mean, yeah, that would be cool if we could get stuff they should
give you, like the lifetime. I mean that's what I'm saying. They
should be a lifetime. But uh, you say things got better and better.
Yeah. It is one of those things where, um, was it
a clarifying moment in terms of life? And I say that in terms of
you just appreciate things more. Maybe you see this as the gift that it's
supposed to be that you know, I always say, I think our general
purpose is to be happy, yeah, and to do what we love.
Yeah, that's and we all handled it differently. We have different stories.
How you have Some of my passionate friends um. One quit his job and
just travel the world, you know, took off. Another one quit her
job and adopted a boy. I mean, things that would have they've never
done. My seat mate went out and got his pilot's license, for God's
sake. And I don't blame him. My family's gonna trust myself. Yeah,
I mean, I'm sure he wouldn't have done that, you know.
I mean for me, I think I didn't do anything spectacular, but it
definitely gives you much better appreci different life. And I think ultimately I still
had a good general feeling of life. But when you when you really have
written yourself off and now you're you're alive, it's I don't want to call
it a second chance of any sort, but it really just makes you appreciate.
Well, I'm saying, like, you're you came in here. You
have two sons, you know, and they look to be late teens,
early twenties. Yeah, where they tell late teens. I love that.
No, they're twenty five and twenty three, all right. I got twenty
two and twenty one in mine, So so I uh, just that you
sort of sort of appreciate them a little bit more. It's almost like Uh,
what's the line in that? It's almost, I guess a hokey song
in a way, but it's not. It's not such an imposition to go
fishing, all right, that's the lived like you were dying. It's almost
like it's not an imposition to help the kid with homework now as maybe it
would have been on you know, the following Monday, after the Thursday flight
home at two forty five, had nothing happened, right, you know what
I mean? And I think it's those things that you start to I don't
know, I'm asking. I don't know. I would think, well,
it's all about when it when you said brace for impact and I said goodbye.
You know what goes through your mind? Anything I did for myself in
my life gives a shit. I'm dead, you know what. It doesn't.
It's not about me anymore. It's about my loved ones. And that's
all I thought about is my you know, my family, my friends.
Um, and I'm not long and it's really sad because I'm like, um,
you know, I'm no longer gonna hug my wife and kiss my boys,
and that's sad. And then then I just flipped it around and I'm
thinking, Okay, well I'm dead. They got to go on with their
knowing their father died in a plane crash. I mean, that's nothing they're
gonna that's gonna be a tough toll on them. Um. One thing I
did that was smart, though, is I'm not kidding. This is a
true story. About three months before I upped my life insurance. So I
was pretty stoked about that decision. Yeah. Well, in that moment,
I'm sure you would be. I was thinking about. I mean, that's
the stuff I'm thinking about. I want to, you know, take care
of my family, but you know from Afar. But um, yeah,
so to your point, yeah, I mean my appreciation and my family,
that was really all all I am missed in love. I have a friend
who's a pilot, so he always says like he goes. He said,
first excelled lamed the plane perfectly because if a wing dips into the end of
the Hudson, you guys are gone right and the FAA is getting on.
I'm like, well, you could have brought it back to the to the
UH to the airport the wrong way. No, no, only couldn't know,
there's no way. But he also says that the co pilot never gets
credit. He's the guy doing all the checklist and everything else. Did you
did you what did you mention his name earlier? Jeff Jeff Skyles Okay,
yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, like I forgot his name for
a second. But he, like we talk about Sully with the co pilots
just as important too, isn't he he is? And here's one thing in
Sully. Every time he goes out, he tries his hardest to give Jeff
equal billing. I mean, it really was a team effort. The thing
is America gravitated to one person. Sure for the most part. Well,
the name of the movie was Sully, and he wrote a book, and
you know, and he fit the part. I mean, look at the
guy. You know, he's just this is the guy you want flying your
plane. And Jeff is equally as skilled, and you know, it just
happened to be. Actually, Jeff was the lead pilot. I don't know
if you know that. He was the guy that was leading the flight.
He was the and Sully was the co And the reason why is Jeff has
actually got more flying hours in Sully, but he doesn't have any airbus flight
hours, so he's trying to build up some hours, okay, and so
we take off and all of a sudden, bam, birds hit strike and
Sully just turns to Skyles and goes my plane, and then Skyles goes your
plane. I mean he handed it over because so he's got gallons of experience
for that type of plane and styles, but that was supposed to be his
flight and he was the pilot, and they just switched it over because and
again he had no problem with that. Yeah, Well, what did you
do for work that was having to travel? Yeah? I was an audit,
so I traveled. But it wasn't it sounds exciting? Yeah it was.
It was the weird thing, is like, but I traveled all across
the content. That's what I mean. I knew you had traveled a lot.
So had you experienced other things on planes, a little turbulence, things
that you kind of went and this is sort of normal now? And well,
I mean there was one flight I flew into San Diego and they had
the San Diego fires as a line. In fact, I remember I had
tickets to see the chargers going in and they had to move to Arizona because
the San Diego is on fire. Yeah, and so we stopped off in
Arizona and we waited for like five hours on the tarmac. I'm like,
but they decided to send us in. And remember going down and it was
just pure yellow smoke and we're going and going, so we didn't know how
close we are to the bottom. And then all of a sudden, we
just shoot up in the sky. I'm like, whoa. I mean,
I mean, it's like, what did we miss? I mean yeah,
And so I'm like, what was that? And now we're, you know,
scared because we can't see anything outside, you know, even when we
shoot up. And then they tried it again. We finally got done and
we were the last plane. I remember ashes coming from the sky was crazy.
Wow. Now my uncle was a pilot for Delta and then was the
head of the union for them for a number of years. And my cousin
is a pilot and he they're based out of Salt Lake. He lives in
Park City. But that's uh. So he was always flying and my father
used to I think he was jealous, but he called him a glorified bus
driver. Oh yeah, I was. How was the hotel for you when
you got after everything all said and done, did you go to sleep that
night or were you just up all night just yeah, thanking everybody and thinking.
Well. When I finally got to the hotel, I was actually by
myself. I just kind of ended up. I mean, we all scattered.
We were rescued and sent to sant Half. I was with New York.
I was in New Jersey, I mean so and then finally I ended
up at a hotel in New Jersey and you know, I got to my
room and I turned the TV on. It's about midnight, and I'm and
I watched it for the first time, like, oh, it was a
bird strike. I mean, I didn't know for sure. I didn't know
that Captain sell you. I didn't to do with it, you know.
I heard some rumblings, but I was like, I, you know,
and I'm watching the story like you had been probably all watching all day long.
And the first time I got to see it, and it was allowed
me to calm down enough because I was just a wreck, you know.
But I was watching that and I called my family. Sleep now maybe a
couple of hours, you know, but that's when I decided the next day
to fly home. So I had to go home and see my family right
away. Yeah, so you did get on a plane again the next day.
Yeah. Was there a little apprehension to that at all or just well
it was the night before. I wasn't going, I was driving. But
then, you know, you just kind of think through it a bit.
It's like it is safer to fly, you know, I drive, you
know, twelve hours. I got a better chance of dying doing that than
fall asleep exactly after something like this, which is already so taxing on you.
Yeah, I had I had to get home to see these guys,
you know, so yeah, and um, but it was the most upsetting
flight. I took off and I literally I just started bawling my eyes out.
I mean, it was the weirdest thing. I just came out of
nowhere because all the emotions came back. Luck luckily they I think the people
knew who I was. I remember walking on the plane. They probably made
an announce because I was still wearing the clothes the day before and they're looking
at who's this, you know, guy coming in, But they probably mentioned
who I was because nobody really reacted to my me crying, because you can't
imagine if I'm in the suit. The next my first business trip back,
and I started bawling in my eyes out there would be like, who's that?
I would think. I would think, I would think somebody died.
Well, that's what I would think, Like I would feel terrible. I
go, poor guy. Do you remember when, um, when it happened.
I'm taking a nap. You call me in the middle of the day,
Danny, I'm build what's up? Turn Out we get one of these
guys on. I go, what are these guys on for? On?
It was a plane just landing in the Hudson. I go, a plane
landing in the Hudson. So I get this guy named Jeff klodj. Does
that name ring a bell? Absolutely? Okay? Yeah, So he gets
on. He goes, I'm no hero. I'm no hero. He was
like from New York and stuff. He's on a business trip. Okay,
yeah they were. I think, no, I think they're on a golf
trip. I think, oh, that's what it was. O. Yeah.
Yeah. And they all were separating in different areas of the plane.
So one half we're here and the other half we're here, and they're thinking
all we got are they alive? You know the whole experience. But yeah,
I know Jeff, Okay, any nightmares of that or I don't know
if there would be nightmare, but any dreams that have come you know,
I mean there's subconscious is strands a mystery, right. I was. Actually
it was more of daydreaming. You know, during during the day, I'm
trying to work and then my brain would just take off for half an hour
because of what I went through. So at night, I mean, LEAP
for the first week was kind of hard, but then I got into it.
It was more of the daydream and it was very difficult to work almost
that entire year because it just would really and that's would you label that as
PTSD? I don't think so. No, I don't know. It was
just good thoughts. I mean it's like there was, Okay, there's like
a minute and a half of fear that I went through, but the rest
of the whole time around it has been, you know, fantastic. So
I can't explain it. But the daydream was just thinking through it again and
I don't know, it was it's all right, yeah, you're still do
an audit. No, No, So Now I manage money. I'm a
wealth management of the Yeah, now we're talking. Yeah, sure, Um,
and and that's in Charlotte. That's in Charlotte. Yeah, okay,
oh man, I think it's uh something to live through for sure. I
mean, yeah, you must tell this story everywhere you go. Uh yeah,
I mean it's been fourteen years, so it's it's kind of died on.
But but then again, it's it's just one of those things like you
know, who is who do you know has been in a plane crash?
Like to that element, you know, And so I would be interested.
I'd want to know more. And here understand, you know, anybody's I
kind of event that you know, where everybody stopped where they were and watched
on TV. You know, I'd be interested to talk to those folks that
were involved with that. So but yeah, it's um, I do tell
it a lot. And everybody got out and was there anybody who was elderly
or some people? I mean sometimes you know on a flight you may have
somebody with a walker or something. But yeah, I mean Lucille Palmer,
she was eighty five, she came out in a walker. It's kind of
like you fed this story right for me. So that was I didn't know.
I'm just thinking to myself, I'm going, well, you know,
you have a cross section of society on these planes of every ability and every
everything, and something like that happens. I was almost gonna say, I
think you start to see people's true nature sort of come out at times,
those who are just panicked and scared, and others who kind of a little
more calm, and maybe leaders who step up and help guide things. And
then I'm thinking you may have people like you know, my mother who's in
her mid seventies and walks with a limb, right, and it isn't gonna
be able to hustle down a nile to get out. Yeah, well,
let's see all she like you said, she came out in a walker with
her she came out with her daughter. We crash. She turns to her
daughter and says, just leave me here. She just let me die here.
Yeah, I mean I'm in your way. I mean I'm just gonna
be in everybody's way. And she's like, no, Ma, you're coming
with us and her and other passengers. This is where I you know,
what we did to all help each other. That that's that's human spirit.
That's the that's what I thought I was hoping would happen within something like that,
and I could totally see my old man saying just that. Yeah,
I'm a I'm a weight, I'm deadweight. I've lived, get out exactly
I'll be. I believe me, I've lived and and not even being I
don't know what the word would be, a martyr or a hero, I
don't know, just saying like and in the way, and a lot of
times it's been big Jordan and Jackson, No, Paul Bill, we got
you two guys, and then you hear those stories of superhuman strength. Then
they're on the Good Morning America Jackson, I just thank a bunch of people.
I have two sons. One is uh, very muscular, in the
other six foot seven. OK. Yeah, so and they're they're uh,
sixteen months apart, so oh cool? Yeah yeah something hang out a lot.
Well, Dan, it's been a pleasure of meeting you. I hope
you enjoy the d What did the reunion already happen? Is it coming up
this weekend? So well, I had a forty year reunion that was Saturday.
But I'm also talking to the on behalf of the Hilton Historical Society this
Thursday at seven pm at Hilton High School Auditorium. So they an old friend
of mine I knew I was on the planes part of this group, and
they said, hey, much, come and speak to the people in Hilton,
and I was like, that's where I grew up. I'm like,
sure, I'd love to, you know. And so it's turned into a
pretty decent started and they moved into the high school because it was so much
response. Yeah, well, I think your story is interests. You have
a very nice way about you, that's very very comfortable telling it. You
guys, you have a nice way of you as well. No, I
just mean, like I could see that. Are you gonna would you write
a book from the passenger's perspective? Has anybody done that? We already did?
You did? Yeah, So it's called Miracle on the Hudson. We
wrote it that year, again our way of finding each other, and so
ninety of us collectively wrote that book. Not everybody wanted to be a part
of it because whatever, you know, they someone had their own book,
but that was the big book, I guess. So we hired writers and
got it published. That was a great experience. I mean, I think
if this book was written in the seventies, probably we could have sold a
half a million copies. But but our story was already out there, you
know, yeah, social media, So there was nothing special to tell really,
I mean there was, and we sold a few books, but it
was nothing where and we really weren't in for the money anyway. I mean,
no, you divide by ninety what do you want to get? But
it was it was a pretty cool thing to do. That's interesting. So
you got to be on a movie set sit across from Clint Eastwood and write
a book or be part of writing the process of writing a book. Yeah,
yeah, we were contributors. Yeah, we're on a podcast. This
is the best one. Yeah, yes, thank you, Dan Vinton.
Well, it was a pleasure meeting you, and I would say, get
out and see them at the Hilton High School on Saturday night. Yeah yeah,
yeah, it's Thursday, Thursday night. Excuse me, Thursday night,
Thursday night, seven o'clock, seven o'clock. Okay, I think it'll be
worth worth the while. Okay, do you do Q and A as well?
Oh yeah, okay, that's a lot of time. Yeah I bet,
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five two O six eighty eight sixty six. All right, Bill, I'm
trying to catch up, but now I just couldn't fucking take it. Jesus
fucking Christ, what is going on with this Uncle Jesse's son of a bitch
thing? Fucking Uncle Jeff on the Duke's A hazard was cool? A fucking
Jess wouldn't. Dan's probably. Can you know what busting balls is called?
Poland man cards? You gotta have one first, Danny, But either way,
it's just breaking fucking balls. But get off to the Uncle Jesse thing.
Uncle Jesse, it's not fucking cool. And be sure to like and
subscribe to Vilified wherever you get your podcast. You had to play it last
night, but it was so good I had to play it again when you
were here. Oh that's it, Uncle Jesse from the Dukes. It was
cool. Now, let me just say you say that now in twenty twenty
three. Yeah, I don't know because they had the Dixie flag on there.
Oh my gosh. Um. Now I've been spending too much time thinking
about this because there's been a lot of calls to five two or six eighty
eight six, He says, including tax about Uncle Jesse and whether or not
he was cool. Now I think people have said to you that he was
cool. Yeah. Friends, well yeah, oh these are people who are
your age, Peter Mott, De Murnos and your your your wheelhouse, okay,
Fisher graduits are Nobody was cool with the Jesse. I would argue mister
T was cooler than Uncle Jesse, and he was. He was a cartoon
character. Two more, one I actually believe in the other I think was
at the time cooler. L David will not on TV though at that time
I don't think Roblow was on TV. Okay, I think his career just
after he like was caught with the Yeah. I mean Roblow is like he's
just pretty good and everything he does. Yeah, and he eats Atkins bars.
Yes, the guy has not aged. No, he hasn't now uh
and neither has uh Jesse. Yes, so David Hasselhoff. I watched Night
Writer and I loved it. Yeah, but I don't. But once David
Hasselhoff went to bay Watch, I lost respect for him. But he too,
he had a talking car man. All of a sudden, I'm gonna
be the old guy at the beach. Well. It is weird because I
always thought like he wasn't the He was the headlife guard, right, he
was the old experience like card. Yeah, because jobs pay like it wasn't
the big buff No, I got my floaties. Yeah he was. He
was so let me tell you something. They were. The guy was in
decent shape, but he was. I can't never look at David Hasselhoff and
not here when his daughter filmed him. Oh yeah, hammer, he's on
the floor drunk and he's or what was he doing. I guess he was
drunk eating he's taking it off the floor. Yeah, I kept falling on
the floor. She was, dad, look at you. And that's what
got in the rehab. Jeff Ross roasted him for ten minutes ont of that.
Yes, Lisa Lampanelli had the joke David Hasselhoff's liver so black, it's
banging too with the Kardashian sistems terrible. Well, I'm just quoting Lisa Lampanelli.
I know a Lisa who is not doing comedy anymore. She's no,
no, why not at Lisa hasn't done comedy in a long time. I
talked to her, canceled her. No, Jesus Christ Um. That was
one of the most uncumfortable moments in my radio life. No, I didn't
know where to look. I'm just I'm sitting sort of with my back to
Wheeze because I'm producing the show. But I had a microphone. Kano is
leaning over here. She's sitting in over my shoulder on the on the couch,
going on about his yellow teeth, and oh god, I just couldn't.
She doesn't do comedy more. She's like self help and she was doing
like some kind of Oh it makes sense. I mean, if you're gonna
like rip on people, you gotta know you could obviously figure out what's going
wrong. And she lost a lot of weight, got a haircut. I
think she got married and divorced, and uh wow, it sounds like me.
I don't know. I don't know her. This is terrible with just
twenty twenty three, so I think we can say it. I don't know
what she identifies as, if she's all lesbian, I don't know. I
thought I would your once in a while, and that's how I spoke to
her, was on Instagram, and then we talked like we talked talked,
but it was Instagram and it would be her with two other guys, like
you can get other people to come on Live with You and she would do
basically a chat and sometimes it was interesting and sometimes it was but it was.
Yeah. So I don't know. I think she's living in Connecticut.
I think she came from money. Okay, I'll have Sam look her up
when he gets there. Um so I don't I don't know where somewhere.
Yeah, he should shoot her, should fire off an email. Just see.
She was She was a lot of fun, very sweet off stage.
Really she was great with us. Yes, in fact, we got her
to roast Tommy once, didn't we Yes for his roast? Yes? Yes,
Uh. What do we call the d David hasself Off on the floor?
Yeah, drunken hasslehof or something. Oh here it is. I just
typed it, David Hasselhoff on the floor and it pops up. Oh god,
this is this is. He's on the floor, no shirt on,
looking very cooler than Uncle Jesse right now. Yeah, yeah, Uncle Jesse.
That never happened, Uncle Jesse. He's got a little bit of a
gut here. But he's on bad shape, I gotta say, because I
gotta think he's here sixty when this happened. Oh yeah, oh god,
he's just like malling this purpose. Are you into your show tomorrow? Mcohol?
Don't get alcohol, Oh God, don't get alcohol, because you see
what he's doing to you. You know, I don't even I can't.
The girl sounds so little. You should hear kid when he was on the
floor. It's but he sounds the daughter. This had to be This is
probably I mean, I don't know the word trauma. I don't know.
I don't know anymore because I would think that there are things that are impactful
on people's lives that maybe change the course of your life, the way you
think of things are all that this could be one of those. So I
would say that under that definition, it would be traumatic. Right. Yeah,
you know, we just had a guy who survived the flight in two
thousand and nine that landed in the icy Hudson River. That's traumatic. Uh,
that we can all identify as traumatic. Having a drunk father on the
floor shoving a Hammond doesn't sound traumatic. But this is sad because she's taping
him to show him what he looks like the floor. This is twenty eighteen.
Oh we were working together, Okay, I'm thinking it was around the
same time as Sulley. Yeah, that was a hell of the years a
mess. Yeah, the whole broker just shot out of the bunnets on the
la he's got it hanging off. Oh two thousand and seven. Okay,
so before Sully, Wow, I just Dot was helping him when was Asshof
on the floor. There's somebody there that's not the daughter that's helping him.
Candid his wife, Gag. You need to promise me you're not gonna get
alcohol ton Okay, you promised me you're not gonna get alcohol tonight. You're
not gonna get okay, because if you get alcohol to tonight, you're fired
from your show Tomorrow. The doctor is coming over here in the morning to
check your alcohol level. Neither of any alcohol in your system. You're going
to be fired from the show. Which show was it? Tomorrow? Producers?
You hear me? Okay, I was doing it. He was doing
a states play the States play jam. Well, that would make sense.
You can't have you here when we have drunk onstage. You can't recut.
You know what I'm saying. Dan, I just talked to her and she
just called the manager of the show and he said that tomorrow all I'm sorry
that just is Wouldn't it be weird? If she ended up becoming an alcoholic
and he has to tape her and tell her the same thing she told him,
A lot of thing could happen a lot of times. Those people see
that, not a lot. There are people who go the other way.
There are ye stay completely away. Uh. Bobby Bones is one never drank.
Mother didn't know his dad. Uh. Mother big alcoholic, died young,
like early forties. I've never been to that scenario where he was or
even remotely close to. But I think that's why my oldest doesn't drink.
Yeah, just he seemed he seemed dad have a few beers and he's been
drunk. But I didn't drink in high school. I didn't drink until I
turned twenty. One of the reasons because I saw well, that was part
of it. But I mean, you know, Danny doesn't break the law.
The other thing was like I watched four different kids in four different kids
in my high school died in drunk driving accidents. Yeah, I had a
couple of those two and it's still didn't stop me. But I I you're
right. I mean I had friends of mine motorcycles and things that I drunk.
Uh. Yeah, it's it's and people what is it about small town?
Well, there's not a lot to do. And this is before the
you know, I mean when you watch that movie. So if you watched
the original Footloose, okay, where they're in like small town Indiana and it's
tracked, they're playing chicken on the tractors and his shoelace gets stuck, that's
why he wins the game too. But I mean, I'm just saying Jesus,
But that's my point. It's like those movies really did capture rural America.
I grew up in a very similar area, right, similar similar act.
In't there two high schools playing a pasta? Yes? And I think
it was when Tyler Lyden was playing for pine Planes before he went to Syracuse.
Um the probably though a guy that I will say, And I think
it's hard to argue that Uncle Jesse was cooler than this guy, and that
would be mcgiver, Richard Dean Anderson, Dan Anderson. Come on, man,
the guy fixed everything, he had the leather jacket, he was cool
every chick. I gotta tell you he used the piece of trains of you
already, Ulver Mac of all, Jona Giver, don't insult Mac like that
anybody who's been parodied since the eighties, it's not cool. Who's ever parodied
Jesse? Piece of gum, a now file and a dart and he got
David Hasselho. We already had a guy to do that. We already had
a guy's name was Bob Vila. You could do all that. Cooler than
Bob. He is not cooler Uncle Jess. Bob, Bob Ross is different,
but still and you know what, Richard Dean Anderson had some pretty cool
eighties hair. Mean, I know that that Uncle Jesse's hair was a very
special Did Richard Dean Anderson follow this up with like being the doctor on Doogie
Howser? I don't remember. I think he was one of the attending doctors.
I don't so. Richard Dean Anderson used to be brought Harris cooler than
Uncle Jess? No, no way, why I mean that. I can't.
I can't a bonus to bone cooler than Voter? Yeah, Boner died
in real life? Did he? Yeah? School while he was alive?
Was he? We'll see Ben? But yeah, no, I mean,
I don't even know where I was going with this, but okay, I
lost my No, it wasn't he was. He was in top ten though,
Uncle Jesse, who you can't find me anybody who was cooler than uncle
No television tell a guyver absolutely cooler than Uncle Jesse. Richard Dean Anderson was
so cool Billy that he ended up like doing cameos on Channel seven telethon for
Children's Hospital in Buffalo every year. Okay, your guy played drums for boys,
yes, and I hope he didn't play. He also was in Full
House, which is iconic show. He was married to what's your name?
Oh gosh of the chick who like turned purple in those Uh yeah you go?
Who left him from the fact guy get to Sandbby. That was a
rose too, Jeff Ross so Jerry O'Connell clear that Uncle Jesse? Yeah apparently?
And that one is he on the talk or something like that. All
right, we'll close it out, Danny. You've given us great content.
I appreciate. Take it for a billion tonight. Oh yeah, Oh,
hold on a second. We don't want to end it just yet. We
gotta give our numbers. We don't have to give our numbers. You want
cash, no, I usually I just do it through Jack Pocket. Now
it's right on my phone well, you can do on your phone that you
give jackpocket. But somebody won the third place prize here in Fairport. I
saw the hand thousand hours, I saw the headline. I'm like, I
bought my tickets in fair Part? Did you did you buy at the wagons?
Was theman? Somebody at the Wagmans right up the road from where we're
sitting on fifty grand third prize? You gotta buy it at Wagmans, but
not tonight tomorrow night. So tonight, yes, tonight tonight. So what
do you have to do to draw? Like to get fifty thousand dollars?
Get two numbers right? Or get the powerball right? I think it's fucking
no. I think it's four out of five maybe, or four in the
power ball, and then five out of five in the power is a million,
and then I think five and the power balls. It is quite a
drop off. But let me tell you something. If you got fifty thousand
just pumped into your kick, oh yeah, for nothing, because you bought
a ticket for two bucks. Yeah that's pretty good. Do you like fifty
third a third prize? Oh? You do? Wandcast don't joke? A
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drawing, and this is just the third time this month that the third prize
winning ticket was bought in the Greater Rochester area. The other two tickets were
purchased at Wegman stores on Hawkins Road and Eastern Boulevard in Canandegua. The East
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and forty million. Once again, after drawing, there were no winners who
claimed the nine hundred million powerball jack about the prize has jumped to an estimated
one billion dollars. You watch it will be somebody in Indiana watch it.
I had my last two dollars and I bought it, and I don't out
on the First thing I'm gonna do is get a win Tobago and an above
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All right, we'll close it out. Get those powerball tickets. That's
a good idea for Kevin Muir, who's reminding us to get our tickets.
For Dan who's sticking by man, he's going. He planted his flag on
that Hill of Uncle Jesse. Can't wait to win him. Buy Uncle Jesse.
And if you actually care about where Gardner Minshew's playing, you got problems.
I knew that was bugging you. My name is Bill Moran. We'll
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