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Yo, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of My

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Cannon Cast. I'm Candaday and I'm
Groovy. On today's episode, we have

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two special guys joining us in the
studio. Today we have Summer Sky,

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owner of Summer Sky Solutions and also
marketing and events specialist. And then we

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have Melanie COLEMs, founder of Bear
Juana and brand manager over at seed Junkie.

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Thank you too for joining us today. Hey, of course, yes,

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thank you for having us. Yeah. Yeah, We're so excited having

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you on this podcast. We've heard
so much about you and honestly, some

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of your name like resonates in the
community and Melo, I've seen you everywhere.

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I've seen the Bear, So I'm
just so excited to have you on

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and like actually talk about what y'all
are about. So we got yeah,

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we got questions. We got questions
from the audience that shout out to communa

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summer put out, and we got
some in Canni community questions. We'll get

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the end of the episode, but
first let's get into uh, what got

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your what got you each into cannabis? So we'll start summer. We'll start

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with you got you into the cannabis
industry sweet, So I decided to go

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into cannabis out of compassion for the
medical side. And so with that,

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I majored in recreation and event management
at Central Michigan the University, and halfway

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through I realized that I could use
my degree and actually work in the emerging

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cannabis space. So I saw a
magazine where they interviewed the VP of Events,

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Jess Tyler, with MJ Biscon and
that definitely inspired me to go into

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cannabis. And so with that,
ever since I graduated, and you know,

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at the age of twenty one,
I immediately went into the industry.

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Sorry, I was a butt tender
for a few months, and then I

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was poached by Platinum eight to be
a brand ambassador and I worked with a

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variety of brands in the Michigan cannabis
space ever since. Right now, I

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manage all the marketing at Grown Rogue
and then last year I also started in

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LLC Summer Sky Solutions, where I
consult various different companies with marketing events and

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then wholesales. Oh that's awesome,
man, you do a lot. Yeah,

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that was that was a mouthful.
Yeah, I was like, you've

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been in this industry. It sounds
like, and you have your like hands

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in a little bit of everything.
So it's really cool. I'm excited to

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hear more about it. So and
also like, you know, shout out

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Braining for making this happen, tying
us together, you know, shout fire

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Farms, one of our partners.
Yeah, and we really appreciate you having

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this set this up. And also
shout out those school organics. So what

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about you mail a little bit about
you. Yeah, So, honestly,

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it's kind of funny. Me and
Summer kind of have a similar come up

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story. But you know, I
started off as a consumer, just like

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a lot of people, and then
actually found a degree up there in Northern

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Michigan University in the Upper Peninsula,
so about seven hours away, way up

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there. Yeah, that's awesome and
so cool to have a degree in cannabis.

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It's so cool. And first off, congrats and then you said,

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you know, so just where you
said you were the first woman to do

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so. Yes, So Northern Michigan
University was the first school, the first

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college to adopt a program that was
created to have a workforce of professionals that

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are able to you know, actually
cultivate in hydroponics. Aquaponics and aeroponics.

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Yeah, so it was all indoor
cultivation, all indoor agriculture. That was

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the actual title of the degree.
And we had talked a little bit earlier

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before this, but I was telling
you guys, how you know, I

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kind of graduated and just kind of
got right into it, you know.

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Yeah, So after I got after
I got the degree, I kind of

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went into bud tending. So I
was at Higher Love. I opened up

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the market location at Higher Love.
I did that for about six months and

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then you know, I moved back
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populated market. I was. I
was passionate about it. At this

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point, I already had the degree, you know, I already had the

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buddies missed. I got to give
this to you for getting that degree I

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got. I got to give you
because like you're very you know, very

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much a pioneer. And I just
want to say that because that's awesome and

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like honestly, like you know,
I mean, there's only a few schools

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doing it, so to you know, to push you to get yourself up

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there and be like I'm doing this, that takes tenacity. Yeah, And

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they were the first school to do
it. So now a lot of the

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schools have done it. Yeah,
at Michigan State University, I think has

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something. It was just school in
Ohio because our buddy, that's right.

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Yeah, there's a couple. Yeah, so a couple other schools have done

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some things like it in other states
as well. But you know, it

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is something. And then my professor
I got to give her a round of

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applause as well, just because yeah, let's go yeah professor, just because

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you know, she was an advocate
for me. She really was. Her

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research focused mostly on women in agriculture
stem you know focuses, so you know,

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with me being a pioneer, she
was really you know interested in my

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cannabis like experience that I was going
to pursue. It's awesome also the moral

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the backing of your teacher helping you
throw. Yeah, it's just as ladies

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out here, you know. Yeah, it's absolutely it's an apartment I want

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to jump into. Uh well there
we go. Ah, so can you

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jumped in back to you now summer
and then can you yeah, can you

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just story how you became associated with
grown rogue because now that you're affiliated with

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them now and I want to know
more of what you guys are what you're

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doing with them and what product looks
like You're about to smoke right here on

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the show as well too. Oh
yeah, right now I'm grinding up some

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of our superbooth that we have right
now, like a really nice like super

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chery orange shirt profile. That's what
I've been digging, a lot of super

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booth to be honest, really popular. Yeah it I love them. Oh

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yeah, but yes, when I
was consulting most of twenty twenty three,

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I decided that I wanted to go
back to working full time. So with

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that I was able to find the
opportunity with Grown Rogue, And with that,

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I'm really thankful for the team and
the opportunity they grow really dank weed.

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We're in over two hundred and twenty
stores in Michigan. They're also based

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out of Oregon, and they're going
to be expanding into New Jersey and Illinois

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pretty soon. Wow. No shit, I didn't. I didn't. I

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didn't realize it's Grown Rouge was that
big, to be honest. Oh yeah.

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They were originally founded out on the
Oregon market too. Okay. They're

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very passionate about sustainable agriculture practices and
really making sure that they grow high quality,

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affordable cannabis. Yeah, I mean
so how long how long? How

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long you've been with them now?
Yean of October, end of October?

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Okay, okay cool? How long
has Grown Road been here in Michigan since?

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Okay? Cool? Uh? They
now went you You pulled out their

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flour in that pink lady. So
we talked about it a little bit before.

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You said that was developed in house. Yep, so this they do

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genics as well. Yeah, and
so this was bred by our former head

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cultivator in Michigan. He goes by
offensive genetics, so shout out to Matt

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find him on the gram. He
is a really passionate breeder. And we

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also have our current head breeder.
His name is Tark. He actually comes

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from the Vegas market, and so
he's also just as passionate about in house

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breeding and creating new genetics. And
so we're going to be launching hectane crosses

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very soon. So that would be
really exciting. You say octane packane,

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Oh no, pactane, yeah,
ass gas. Okay cool. Does Grown

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have a retail shop or you just
strictly like cultivators, they just grow Okay,

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the sea to the basics and what
they're good at. Well, it

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sounds like they're passionate. Is that
what draw you draws you to them,

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and that's what keeps you with them. It is very nice to work on

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the flower side of the market.
Absolutely, coming from mostly working for vape

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companies and edible companies. I don't
really use vapes, I don't really use

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edibles. I'm definitely more of a
flower smoker. So it's very refreshing getting

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on the cultivation side, both flower
heads, both flowerheads. I feel alone

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here. I'm a big dabb like
you. I know, he's a flowerhead.

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I love a good donut, though, I mean, I mean,

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who don't dont you know? That
is so? No? I mean was

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it? Did you notice your shift
in that like what like? Was it

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easier for you to like be in
that market like kind of pushing flower rather

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than I mean, I would say
that I thrived in every situation I was

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in overall, and I'm honestly just
thankful for all the different opportunities and companies

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and people that I've been able to
work with throughout the years, because they

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all culminate together in various different experiences
that are always beneficial in the long run.

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Oh awesome. That's a good way
to put it too. I like

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that. Yeah, you said you
know marketing and event specialists. So you've

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been involved events and in marketing,
yep. So I majored in recreation and

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event management at Central and so they
have a top tier event management program,

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so they consistently win the Gold Pinnacle
Award from the International Festivals and Events Association.

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And so with that, they have
hands on in class opportunities for students

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to learn how to plan and facilitate
events and then how to plan to make

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them better in the future. And
so I'm actually going to be going back

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there this April to help out with
the CMU gus Macker, which is entirely

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put on by CMU students that specific
event. So Scott McNeil, the founder

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of gust Maker, the three on
three basketball tournaments, he's actually a Michigan

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native and he is a CMU alum, and so he's like best friends with

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our department chair Tim Ottoman too.
It's really who you're still involved. It's

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awesome. Sounds like your hands,
It sounds like you're involved in a lot

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too. So yeah, a lot. Thank you for making time to come

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out here and record with us.
Yeah, as a busy schedule. Yeah,

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no, I mean before we move
on to the cra A thing,

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because I really want to talk about
that. Where can people find Grown Rogue.

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So we're in over two hundred and
twenty dispensaries in the state, So

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if you would like to find out
where we are located, uh, feel

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free to give us a follow on
Instagram at grown Rogue and grown Rogue dot

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m I. We actually have a
fresh rap list that is posted every week,

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so you guys can check out kind
of like where our freshest flavors are.

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Oh nice. See that's always convenient. Like I hate when brand I

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not I want to say hate because
that's a strong word, but I really

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it's so convenient when you can just
find it. It's so and it's so

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hard and I understand that, you
know, like you know, we leave

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we you know, weed maps,
weed leaf, I can come with the

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big ones and I was like,
whoa, but no, like those are

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convenient, but like, you know, even for me, like I've looked

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it up and I've got there and
it's out, you know, and how

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many times? So it's really nice
when like you can just go right to

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a website it's convenience. Absolutely,
So we're talking about flowerheads. Do y'all

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have like a favorite way too,
like a favorite strain? That's a good

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question. You have a favorite strain? And I'm super indecisive, so kind

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of just depends on what my motive
is and what I have available. Okay,

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Okay, what about you? Okay, So I mean I kind of

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touched on like my come up.
But so I'm obviously you know, I'm

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the brand manager for Sea Junkies,
so I like to I like to smoke

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all of them. But he strained
kind of sends you on like a different

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journey, you know what I'm saying, do their own thing. They all

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serve their purpose. Hard to pick
your favorite. I mean you might have

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like a favorite diesel. You might
like sow I love sour diesel, but

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you might love like the diesels,
or like I love cakes and cookies just

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in general, like a sweet Indica. But the pineapple fruz from Seed Junkie

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has just been I have the mango
fruze right here, but the pineapple fruze

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all the weight here that he came
with, all the weed they got,

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all this crown row up front as
well. Oh I I got, I

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got the wie Blue Runs, Blue
Runs. Oh, I kind of want

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to see that pineapple fruze is a
good one, good one to grow.

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It's a good yielder. You know, it's frosty and nice. He's been

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he's been selling seeds of those ones. That one pineapple fruze, that's the

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one I've been seeing on his website. He just got like a couple of

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crosses. It's animal mints and skittles
cross okakts okay. So I just had

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to ask that. So but the
CIAR thing I had to ask, So,

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okay, tell us about the CIRA
meeting, Like, you know,

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you spoke at one and that's awesome
and like you know, advocate wise,

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it's amazing. So I just let's
talk talk a little about that if you

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don't mind things. But yeah,
with that, I'm just you know,

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just being really passionate about the event
scene and always having a fascination for consumption

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lounges. With the current framework for
consumption lounges in Michigan, it makes it

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extremely risky and it also loses out
on profitability opportunities because it's essentially a BUYO

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B model. But the framework could
be improved so that it is much more

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profitable, such as being able to
actually sell product or to be able to

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have a kitchen so that you can
serve meals and food. And it's just

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so expensive to run one. It's
essentially like a venue at that point.

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You know, it's not really a
lounge, it's a venue, and you

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know, it makes it also less
successful for people to have spaces that they

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can safely consume because cities are just
afraid to opt in in general because they

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don't know what a consumption lounge is. Oh, we don't want that,

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you know. So I think a
big part of it is just advocating for

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what is right and how it's going
to most benefit the community. But you

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also have to kind of like speak
in their language, you know what I

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mean. So most people that participated
in the March meeting did so by writing

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letters, but we did have a
handful of people that did speak in person

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and virtually about the initiative, and
then we also had people discuss their opinions

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on a handful of relevant proposals from
April twenty twenty three regarding events and so

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just in general, as the community
and as the public, it's just extremely

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important that we utilize our voices to
advocate for what is right, because if

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we just let people just come in
and just take full control without hearing public

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opinion, it risks, you know, the market not being what it could

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be. Absolutely and as the community, we really need to come together,

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you know, it's so crucial,
And honestly, I'm just so thankful for

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Robin Schneider with the Michigan Cannabisiness Reassociation
for just having my back and for supporting

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me the entire process and recruiting people
and just organizing the intro meeting or organizing

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all the resources, organizing all the
materials for people that were interested in being

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a part of it. And so
right now I'm waiting until about a month

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is past to reach back out to
the CIRA because I want them to be

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able to digest all of the letters
and what everyone has said so that we

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can come back in and talk about
kind of like moving forward, like how

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can we help you guys with you
know, formatting a framework that is safe

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for the community and ohso helps further
stimulate the economy and entrepreneurs and just kind

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of listening to their concerns and how
we can essentially just come together and just

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really make the best possible framework.
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don't necessarily understand what it's like to
be in the in the industry and do

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made the groundwork and make that money. So like it's very important for entrepreneurs

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and business people to come in and
be like, hey, this isn't working.

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This is like really not working because
like without that like true voice of

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like things in theory sometimes work,
but in practice they don't always, you

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know. So, I mean you
really don't see a lot of consumption lounges,

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and that's something that me and you
talk about like on their episodes or

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the live streams. It would sweet
to be able to have something, especially

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around the Metro Detroit area because for
us, there's nothing around here for this

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one. Now, the new one
is what Kalamazoo Alien I think is the

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closest oh. I saw that.
That's a couple hours away still and it

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operates like an actual lounge too.
And I know that kal Kushka Lounge of

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so operated like a lounge. And
I know that we heard Clothing Longe they're

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up for sale. I know hot
Box closed as well too, and that

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was right around here, but they
were just private. So they had two

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days that they opened was public towards
the end. Yeah, on like Tuesdays

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and stuff. Yeah, which is
kind of a bummer because I was like

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that that one day. I gotta
make it one day a week between ten

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and eight. Yeah. I feel
like there's a lot of people, a

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lot of dispos that are ready for
and they want it, it's just legislate's

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not there in all the cities exactly. A lot of dispensaries have the designated

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space for it. They're just waiting
for the framework to actually be profitable for

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them so that they don't lose risking
a lot of capital. It makes sense,

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well, makes sense for the industry
to work. It's got to work

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for the people in industry. It
can't just work in theory. It can't

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just work on paper and then be
like, oh, well this is what

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we want. Like if it doesn't
work, then they're not the No one

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gets any money, like you know, So at the end of the day,

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do you feel like the CRA makes
things a little hard sometimes? I

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think with a lot of situation packaging, like all of a sudden, all

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the packaging changes pull everything off the
shelves, you know what I mean.

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I agree this because a lot is
them just being like, hey, here's

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what we want. And then but
it's they're like, this doesn't make sense

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when I have to spend this much
money on this and this and this to

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get in so much overhead. So
yeah, yeah, you know, and

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that's the thing sometimes, especially being
new, I think sometimes we need that

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like voice to cause this to start, the the catalyst to change, right,

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right, So that's really cool.
When is the next CRA meeting.

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It's going to be in June.
So they have them quarterly, quarterly a

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little while, we have a little
while. Is it always virtually to where

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you can attend in person and virtually
in person? Oh you were in person

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two weeks I did go in person. They have it in lancing at their

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office. I was going to zoom
in. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I know, I was working.
I remember that during the day. It

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is tricky because it's they make it
during a weekday and they always make it

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mid day. It's like a lot
of people, I mean a lot at

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least for me, like I'm an
entrepreneur, but the same time, I

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still work a day job. Unfortunately. Yeah, it was nine so if

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it was in the in the evening, it would be much more accessible to

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you know, anyone, because you
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in the business that can actually make
it. I feel like they, I

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don't know, like you said,
you were just saying, I feel like

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sometimes they make it more convenient for
them, you know, and it's more

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comedian for the c ra in theory
and all these things just for them,

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and it's like, well, it's
got to work for the people in the

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industry, right. Was there any
updates on events and licensees for those like

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the temporary ones like where you could
just do an event and you don't have

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selling, Like that's still good to
go. I'm gonna be completely honest.

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Maybe we cut this part out a
little, but I arrived late to the

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meeting and so I missed like the
entirety of Brian Hannah's kind of like little

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introductory you should feel. But I
did hear that. Apparently they don't care

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if you consume at events without a
license. It's just if you sell lead

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and they're also very strict about that
makes sense, I mean, that's how

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it should be though. Trade samples. Yeah, so they don't want you

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to take trade samples directly from a
facility to the event. They want you

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to have the product pennied out at
a retailer and have a receipt. But

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they also because the seed to sail
is it because they just want to track

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it. It's because just they want
one person to purchase all of the flower.

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Didn't they say that that the host
of the event was the one person

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that had to purchase it for all
of the brands that were attending, so

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it could be on one receipt,
or like if you're a brand rep and

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you pick it up and then deliver
it to the event organizer to distribute at

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the event, you have to bring
the receipt and give it to them.

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M see again making it difficult just
bent it out. I think it would

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definitely be beneficial because I heard from
someone that had access to Metric that essentially

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there is a button in Metric for
like event donation. So like in theory,

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we might be able to pull some
strings and get that regulation change so

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that then you can bring event samples
directly from a facility to an event.

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I feel that makes sense that because
that's what you're doing, you're giving it

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away as like a marketing promotion whatever
whatever wording. You know, you have

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to partner with the retail right,
and then you got to go through this

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sale process, which then does that
mean does it have just I mean you

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have to pay the whole process.
It's just because it's like compliance, you

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know, it's just cost money.
You're not adding more overhead. It's like

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and then you have to ship it. You have to super rolls go all

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around the world before they because you
got pay now for that now because you

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have to pay for it to go
there, or you just put it on

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like an order if you conveniently like
work with that retailer with your brand convenience

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for them. It is, it
is very inconvenient for the retailer. Yeah,

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And I don't know, I feel
like there's so much regulation as is

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in this market. It's like why
do we have to make it more and

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more regulated on these little things,
like you know, especially because events bring

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I feel like events have changed the
community a little bit because for a long

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time, like it was just the
Medica or just the what's it called the

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High Times Cup and Clio you know, and then now there's like so many

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events. Yeah, once they hit, once they hit, after the pandemic

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now you see them all over the
place. Any events you want to shout

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out or you'll be coming up soon
hash Bash yeah yeah, yeah, I

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get new so excited. Yeah,
we'll be there all day. Definitely show

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never mind this isn't airing before for
well after shout out everyone hopefully definitely,

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and Dave entered Canada've entered the cup, so it should be fun at the

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hotel. So super excited. Finish
good Ye, it'll be a fun day.

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It'll be a fun day. Hit
him Minroe Street Fair after Hashbash and

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then hit the cups. Yeah.
Sea Junkie is going to be at straight

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Hen Cafe on Saturday from I believe
it is four to seven, so tapping

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with us in the evening. So
much good community out here and just so

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everyone's going to be there. Everyone
in cannabis is like, check our Instagram.

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We'll post something on there for sure. Seed Junkie am I, oh

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yeah, well actually, mel let's
get over to you. Let's talk.

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Let's talk, see junkie, let's
talk. How did you get associated?

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We talked to you? Yeah,
I smoke Seed Junkie pre roll while we're

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talking about you. Yes, and
then actually before we go into seed Junkie.

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It's kind of like talking about Hashbash. Definitely go to Hashbash this year,

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just for the celebration of life for
John absolutely and Rick and Rick too,

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yes, and and Gersh and everyone
that was a part of the unity

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that well, that's the thing,
you know, we were talking Hashbash a

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little bit off camera, and that's
the thing people forget because hashbets becomes such

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an event in a day and it's
such a celebration, but people forget the

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advocacy behind it. In Johnson Claire
getting arrested for two joints and having to

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face ten years, you know,
and after sure, after the freedom rally

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and getting out after two years.
But that man changed so much. And

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then we talked a bit on one
of our last podcasts and Hitect and how

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much he stayed in Michigan and stuff. So Hashbash is so much more than

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just like getting high had fun.
It's also getting high hand fun. Yes,

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but yeah, it's a celebration And
then thank you for that. That's

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a good point because that it's just
happened the week of and that's just so

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wild. He's on my mind as
is I'm like, oh, you know,

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we get to hit the poll and
that happened. You're like, wow,

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so wow, but yeah, wild
no, it's gonna be it's gonna

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be a wild year. But you
know, but it's also a celebration of

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life. I like you just Rick
loved cannabis man so much, and John

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obviously, so I just it's you
know, John was one of the first

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people to buy legal cannabis in the
state when it turned like December first.

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Yeah, we'll see you both there, Sea Junkie. You know, we

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know, we learned a little bit
about your background, which ones you light

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up. And obviously you like you
know, you embrace the education. You're

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pioneer in that aspect. So now
we're let's talk a little bit Sea Junkie.

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And then also we're gonna get into
Barrage Juana, which is your own

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company, so let's talk a little
mount so Seed Junkie, it kind of

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I had a lot of experience in
the industry and then right place, right

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time, somebody brought my name up
in a room in the right room,

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and I got connected with my boss. And so he runs a vertically integrated

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company. So he's got a retail
processing grow big business. So I'm actually

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going to be the brand manager for
Fruits Seed Junkie and Cosmic Cowboy, which

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is a brand that we're going to
be coming out with. But you know,

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we've successfully launched two brands, you
know, off of Gramazon in the

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last two years. But so you
guys exclusively have the Sea Junkie genetics exactly.

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So that's yeah, I wanted to
touch on that. So these are

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the legit ones that like won the
No One Else in Michigan game. Yeah.

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So no, we have a licensing
agreement with JBZ. You know my

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Boss and jabez or homies. They're
tight. They hang out all the time.

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Yeah, I mean they were dropping
nowge prior to the episode on all

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the genetics that see Breezy really come
out with. I knew a couple,

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but like, man like, I
was not informed these two were hitting me

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up. Yeah, I just got
some as well bought them. I mean,

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I'm excited to grow my girl.
A lot of exotic, but a

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lot of hiss. Everyone's talking about
it, dude. Yeah, I mean

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straight the year three years Cushman's as
well. Yep, that's straight of the

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Year in twenty twenty two years.
Straight of the year too. Ye.

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Jealousy yeah, and that that was
crossed with so many. I mean,

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I definitely love the magic marker and
I love the permanent marker truly. Yeah,

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those strings are slapped. The taste
really good. Uh he does he

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does good, good work that feenal
Honting like what he does and finds the

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correct one he does as well.
Yeah, if you listen, come on

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the pod, Javas, let's go, Jabs, come on, let's go.

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Yeah know, I mean he's reached
out a million times and he loves

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him so like the fact they were
talking to Junkie is like his ship right

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now. So no, it's awesome, tasty, you know, uh,

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tropical words. So what what made
taste to him? What? What you

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know? I think we kind of
we talked a little bit about your history

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with your education, But what made
you fall in love with this plan?

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I know him a little sagremating,
but I meant to ask this before we

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started and we kind of rushed into
it. What what is something that made

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you fall in love with this plant? Just just a little segue for both

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y'all. Really it's the community.
I feel like the community that it's brought

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me and and the growing honestly with
me being in school for indoor agriculture.

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I like being out in the field. I like talking with people. I'm

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a people person. But it is
good to be able to tap back in

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and kind of like, you know, put your headphones in and close off

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and just kind of therapeutic. You
know, when you walk into the grow

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room, it's like, you know, the temperatures high, you feel good,

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fans are high, you know.
So yeah, I like that too.

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What about you summer? And I
don't mean to segue, it's just

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you're both so passionate and I was
like, I didn't even ask what made

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you so passionate about this? And
you because of this our passion, I

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would even ask, yo, Matt, Yeah, we kind of jump right

407
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:49.960
into it, you know, like
Dave gets excited sometimes but but no,

408
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:53.680
but no, but for real,
what about you summer? Definitely the medical

409
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:57.359
side, Yeah, awesome, Yeah, because there's so many benefits and honestly,

410
00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:00.799
the rights that people were losing.
And I feel you on that.

411
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.400
Yeah, I mean there's just so
many different illnesses and conditions that can be

412
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.880
treated by cannabis. Yeah. But
instead, you know, people are just

413
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:17.119
prescribed opioids and other pharmaceuticals and they
just have negative side effects versus cannabis as

414
00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:22.440
minimal side effects. No, I
mean, why should we stigmatize and scrutinize

415
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:29.240
and description, you know, it
just doesn't make any sense. Prescription real

416
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:32.160
quick, usually at the doctors.
Yeah, it's always like the thing that

417
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:36.039
blows my mind is that it's technically
a schedule one drug with no medical benefits.

418
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:40.119
But then how many states are medical
cannabis. It doesn't make any sense.

419
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.279
There's some laws that be changed,
for sure, there's what twenty five

420
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:45.839
known that are federally legal. I
think. No, Like, well,

421
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.519
thanks for those segue. I just
honestly, I was just thinking about that.

422
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.279
I honestly forgot to ask that.
I just want to ask that because

423
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:55.519
honestly, we have everyone has their
own story that gets them the falls in

424
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:59.519
love with this industry because, like
you said, it's not necessarily the most

425
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:03.000
profitable for like theater career can be
money, but there's a lot of passion

426
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:04.920
that goes into this project. People
think that it's going to be handover fish,

427
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:08.079
just money because it's weed, and
it's like yeah, not exactly,

428
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:15.119
yeah, overheavy things exactly. And
she does the event and you know,

429
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.480
the events marketing vendor days. Me
and her do a lot of like similar

430
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.960
work, and it's kind of crazy. You know. The reason I really

431
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:26.599
fell in love with the industry as
a whole was, you know, I

432
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:32.119
was out in California in like twenty
eighteen, and I'm sitting in the back

433
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:34.960
of my best friend's car. She
moved out there. Her dad was driving,

434
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.519
you know, staying at the family's
house, and we're driving down the

435
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:44.079
long highway. There's like no trees, and there's a billboard and it's advertising

436
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:47.319
cannabis. And then there was like
another one, and I was like,

437
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:52.960
what, somebody got paid to make
that. And I was already in school

438
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.680
at the time for business, and
so like business marketing was kind of like

439
00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.279
my segue, and I wanted to
find you know, I wanted to get

440
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.559
more narrow. I wanted to figure
out what I was going to be marketing.

441
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.079
I wanted to get you know,
specific with it. And so yeah,

442
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.039
when I found out that that was
a thing, it was just it

443
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:14.799
made me feel I was like wow, I was amazed. And then I

444
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:18.440
got home from California in a sponsored
ad popped up on my Facebook. I

445
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:26.359
was just scrolling, like super happen
literally for Northern Michigan University's program for the

446
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:32.119
Cannabis thing, and at that moment
is like it gives me goosebump still,

447
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:34.960
Like I got teary eyed. I
was like, that's when I was telling

448
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:41.000
you guys earlier, when like my
personal goals and like what I was doing

449
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:42.960
and what I enjoyed doing in my
personal life and what I could do in

450
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:48.400
my professional life. Finally like came
together, and that right there is I

451
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.079
feel like the start. That's when
I really got into it. And that's

452
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:56.240
before obviously I started going to school. But you know, once I got

453
00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:59.319
into school, it was pretty easy
to get into the industry. You see,

454
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.279
you're both both into marketing pretty heavily, you know, in your own

455
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:06.400
aspects and obviously and that's really cool
to see. What was that one?

456
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.680
This is? Oh yeah, I
see someone smelling weed. I feel like

457
00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:14.960
I have to smell it anyone else, Like I see someone smelling like that's

458
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:19.160
our top cellar. We can barely
keep it on the menu, both in

459
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.799
story and wholesale. What is it? Blue MS, It's a Blue Power

460
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:24.720
cross. That's what it kind of
reminds me of. It was like Blue

461
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:30.519
Power Right. Sorry, I'm still
smiff almost make sure like a fruit the

462
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:34.359
bud tender and Monroe that told me
he was like, I don't smoke any

463
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.519
Michigan weed, but only the blue
runts from grown rogue. That's it.

464
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:45.359
Yeah, that's our boy, Seth. That smells nice turpy for flour frost.

465
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:49.359
It's almost like almost like a bluish
hint to the bud tense business of

466
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:57.319
purple and dark. Almost looks like
the frost almost to me. Oh yeah,

467
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:08.960
right, erectly whe's the cables boom
gorgeous. Yeah, no, that's

468
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:14.680
awesome. I honestly like, I
just love how much flour y'all brought.

469
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:16.000
It's kind of overwhelming. What are
we even smoking? And what'd you say?

470
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:19.720
Tropical bursts? Tropical burst? That's
not bad. I like that,

471
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:22.759
it's smooth. What'd you rolling up
over there too? Summer? So I

472
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:27.319
rolled up some chopped cherry okay,
flower joints, and I'm gonna roll up

473
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.480
some blue ronts. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I'm

474
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:36.559
so excited. Really, I really
I kind of want that was like,

475
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:38.599
man, I was like blueberry power
or blue power, and then I'm getting

476
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:42.000
like fruit boops there. I don't
know, I don't know that was good,

477
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:49.920
was smoking shout out grown rope,
what kind of is it gonna what's

478
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:54.920
it gonna do? So it's actually
pretty high and lean a little and mercy

479
00:33:54.920 --> 00:34:00.200
and so it's definitely gonna be more
of a sedative option. Yeah, and

480
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:02.480
limony. It does have like some
lemony in it for like that freadiness to

481
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:10.639
it. But overall it's really great
to smoke and just hang out recreate nice

482
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:15.440
like post works. I'm a big
I'm a big like I like the sedative

483
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:17.400
part of cannabis and dads like,
I love it. I love them that

484
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:22.519
lintle when you get when little's hired
content in the terpine like the top three

485
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:25.719
right, because you do you get
that nice dative buzz and still relaxing at

486
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:28.519
the end of your day. It's
like it's kind of hard to pick like

487
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:30.440
a favorite turp for me, Like
I like them all just depends on when

488
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:34.400
you know. It's like what you
were saying earlier about your strange you're like

489
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:37.960
someone said, I said, they
all take me on a different journey,

490
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.599
like I said the pineapple first earlier. But I can't wait to smoke one

491
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:46.880
of these intigo ones, like yeah, I was thinking that. Yeah,

492
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:52.039
yeah, yeah, that marker is
gas. You can only imagine. So

493
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:57.280
yeah, I got a little off
topic. But it doesn't even matter about

494
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.039
about Sea Junkie though. Yeah,
you said you are the brand manager.

495
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:05.280
Yeah, you're the brand manager.
So what does that entail? So a

496
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:09.440
lot is anything that involves the brand. So I help with, you know,

497
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:15.679
all marketing. That's like my full
you know, department. But I

498
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:17.400
also assist with sales, you know. I help out with you know,

499
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:21.639
our packaging because obviously we have to
get designs, we have to get at

500
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:25.400
Michigan compliant, we have to order
them. I have to communicate with production

501
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:30.000
to make sure we can correct quantities, you know, make menus for the

502
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:37.880
sales team. Yeah. And then
i'm your vendor girl too. So yeah,

503
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:42.280
and also I want to pull this
up real quick. Gramazon is a

504
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.760
website so super convenient to find their
stuff. You want to talk about this

505
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.400
a little bit because this is really
a nice website. Yeah, So if

506
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:54.199
you go to Gramazon www dot Gramazon
g R A M A z O N

507
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:59.880
dot U S, that'll pop up
our website. You can click this C

508
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:04.199
Junkie tab and at the bottom you'll
find our store locator, and so we're

509
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.079
in a little over two hundred stores
as well, so you'll be able to

510
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:10.599
find each store that we're in on
that website. And of course, if

511
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:15.480
you want to look a little bit
further, I always suggest I think we

512
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.199
were talking about it earlier. I
think Duchy is more accurate opposed to like

513
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:23.119
weed Maps or Leavely. It's I
think usually more linked to the inventory.

514
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:30.159
So I always suggest checking the Duchy
or whatever kind of like online ordering platform

515
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:34.800
that the dispensary has. Yeah,
usually it is Duchy. Shout out.

516
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:37.559
I feel like, is that the
one website that everyone has, Like that

517
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:39.639
one that's like white with a green
background, and it sounds silly that everyone

518
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:42.719
has, but yeah, I think
you're right, Duchy is the one that's

519
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:44.960
recognized. Wele. I was trying
to remember what it looked like. Yeah,

520
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:50.519
I think you're talking about Yeah.
Yeah, And if you're a brand

521
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:55.159
right now, Duchy has a free
brand beta program where you can upload images

522
00:36:55.199 --> 00:37:01.119
and accurate strain descriptions for your full
brand. Oh so you can kind of

523
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:04.920
brand yourself and put it on there
for yourself. That's nice. Yeah,

524
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:10.559
So then it's a uniform and consistent
across all dispensaries for your brand. No,

525
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:15.360
that's nice for a brand alignment too, jeez. Convenient. Yeah,

526
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:20.400
that's very convenient. And then also
I got with let's talk barrel with Jouanna.

527
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.800
Yeah, barreljuana marijuana. Sorry,
no, you're good. Now,

528
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:30.480
you're good. No, it's a
little tricky, but the Pink Bear smoke

529
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:35.559
ware is easy. That's my website
www. Dot Pink Bearsmokewear dot com.

530
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:39.559
Just like it sounds, We're a
cannabis clothing line. So our machine is

531
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:47.400
kind of to bless the cannabis community
with our like tangible tokens of love.

532
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:51.639
And you know, yeah, I'm
looking at I'm looking at your website right

533
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:53.360
now. I've pulled up. I
really I really like this. Uh the

534
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:57.519
bear on this pink gear. That's
fresh. That's really fresh. I saw

535
00:37:57.559 --> 00:37:59.920
the choke cooat when you walked in. That was fresh as hell. They

536
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.079
thank you so much. Yeah,
she designed, Like how long has this

537
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:06.880
been going on? Doing this?
So, I mean I've had so Berijuana

538
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:10.119
is kind of how I started branding, and then that's kind of how I

539
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:14.920
adopted like my persona, I guess, into the cannabis space. So a

540
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:20.119
lot of people know me is Barrijuana. We recognized the bear when you came

541
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:22.760
in. We're like, we've seen
you, so yeah, it's brandable.

542
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:24.960
So you're branding, so we've definitely
seen it. You're doing well because we've

543
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:29.280
when I met you and we've seen
your brand. I like it. It

544
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:30.960
does just stands out. It's not
for everybody. A lot of guys will

545
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:32.880
be like, are you making guys
stuff? And I'm like, I am,

546
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:36.920
but it is originally for the ladies, you know what I'm saying,

547
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:40.440
Like it's kind of like my thank
you to them, you know, like

548
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:44.360
something to get back to the community. Hey, I like pink. I

549
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:49.239
rock some pink. What you're saying
ahead, I wrecked. I wrecked ahead,

550
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:52.280
So no, I'll just say that's
cool. That's cool, very cool.

551
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:57.159
Yeah, and I'm making more stuff. I've talked with a bunch of

552
00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:00.159
people. A lot of people want
to do some collabs. I'm always and

553
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:05.360
too colabs as well. If you
do head to my website you can obviously

554
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:08.079
get my contact information or whatever.
Always inquire if you guys want to do

555
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:14.760
anything right now? Yeah, he
pull up the website. Whenever you know

556
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:16.199
you're good, you're good. I
love it. No, it's it's awesome

557
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.880
definitely. So where did you all
meet anyways? You know we're talking about

558
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.800
marketing. You guys said, where'd
you guys meet in marketing? Oh jesus,

559
00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:25.800
Oh you're good. Do you wanna
do you want to explain it?

560
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:32.079
It really does sound like fruit,
right, that's Z turt Man. That's

561
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:37.480
like the big thing right now.
You're seeing Z everywhere everywhere. It's been

562
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:40.800
around, but it's just everyone's loving
it right now. That's really good.

563
00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:46.360
I'm excited to try this too.
The color though, Oh it's gorgeous,

564
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:52.920
Yes it is. I was gonna
over the community. You can get to

565
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:55.679
some of the cand of community questions, guys do so shout out to everyone

566
00:39:55.719 --> 00:40:00.480
that participated on someone's I g or
reached out and we got bunch of cool

567
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:04.280
questions. So this is cool.
I got a couple that people sent me

568
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.039
actually is perfect and submit them.
Oh yeah, let's go, let's go.

569
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:13.840
This isn't no particular order. So
we're gonna say who like said them?

570
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:16.280
Are we just going to say?
Because not all of them have,

571
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:19.480
so we'll just say that. We'll
just say that. Let's get a question.

572
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.079
Yeah, we don't people do on. Yeah, all right, So

573
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:27.840
first one, I'll start with this
one right here. If you could so

574
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.119
soon, this was on your profile, if you could give advice to another

575
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:36.079
woman thinking about filling in your footsteps, what would you say. That's a

576
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:43.119
good question. I would definitely say, always be very strong, you know

577
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:47.880
what I mean. Uh, sometimes
it's not the easiest, but I would

578
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:57.079
definitely say, just you know,
sticking to your core values and you know,

579
00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:01.079
having a having a good conscious and
just you know, just always striving

580
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:07.519
to be a good person and being
very intentional. And I would also say

581
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:14.599
to in terms of what team you're
going to work with, really make sure

582
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:21.480
that they align with your personal values
that you have and that they care about

583
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:28.800
your goals and how they're going to
empower you. That's good, I mean,

584
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:30.960
mel, do you want to follow
up with that? Yeah? No,

585
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:34.320
honestly, it is really all about
the people. And it's like we

586
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:37.199
have had our fair share of,
you know, experiences in the industry,

587
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:43.199
and I feel like when you find
the right team, it's make your break.

588
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:45.880
No, it's so true. I
mean, you can't do anything alone.

589
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.679
I mean without that team and that
support. I mean, I mean,

590
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:51.320
it's it's a struggle. To do
anything like you know, it does

591
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:53.519
I mean, you know you can
count on somebody, Yeah, and honestly

592
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:57.440
you should. You should try to
lean on people. It's important, right,

593
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.360
you know, especially for mental health
these days, like you know,

594
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:02.679
personally, so like absolutely, you
know what I mean. I would also

595
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:08.920
kind of like going on that too. While there are a lot of women

596
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:15.960
in the industry, I would say
to not tell everyone everything. You know,

597
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:22.519
you don't need to use your story
as your personal diary, you know

598
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:25.639
what I mean. Just protect yourself
and protect your energy, because not everyone

599
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:32.880
has the best intentions for you,
and so sometimes it's better to be mysterious

600
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.559
as opposed to kind of like just
putting everything out there and even like your

601
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:46.119
location or even like what events you're
going to, just because there are a

602
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:52.280
lot of like people that like just
follow a bunch of women in the industry

603
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:54.000
that might not have like the best
intentions, you know what I mean.

604
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:59.159
There's always going to be creepys on
the internet, so you've got to protect

605
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:01.000
yourself. Oh, you got to
protect your own editory world. Man.

606
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:05.440
I do want to follow up on
that though, because I do feel like

607
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:10.280
a lot of people are over shared
sometimes. Hey, I am guilty of

608
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:15.480
it myself, right, we all
are. But you know, like it's

609
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:20.360
easy because people are so friendly in
the cannabis industry, you know what I'm

610
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:23.079
saying. Like they're all our homies, so it's like immediate best friend right

611
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:27.000
there. Well, it's so easy
to become friends with everyone when you're like,

612
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:29.079
hey, you want to hit this
joint, like show, we just

613
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:32.840
become friends, like you know,
but they're also always be your coworkers too,

614
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:36.960
you know what I'm saying. And
it's a business too. People are

615
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:39.199
also doing business too, and we
learned it in our own ways. We've

616
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:43.480
you know, you trust sometimes and
like we've got screwed over, you know,

617
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:45.440
financially, and it's like, well
we should probably ahead of contract.

618
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.679
Well, you know, you live
and you learn, right. But in

619
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:52.599
like there's the business aspect, there's
the creepy aspect. There's a lot of

620
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:53.960
like where you do just have to
watch your back because it is a business

621
00:43:54.199 --> 00:44:00.199
at the end of the day.
Yeah, that makes sense. What's about

622
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:02.159
you go on? How about you
mail? You got one pulled off?

623
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:13.719
Why do you think women have a
harder time in cannabis? Oh? I

624
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:21.920
would say that there's a lot of
different layers to this, but especially because

625
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:30.079
there's less women in C suite and
ownership positions, and also just in general

626
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:37.079
the biological differences between women men and
women in terms of like you know,

627
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:42.119
hormones and you know, just kind
of like other stuff like that. It

628
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:46.119
can sometimes be harder for a woman
because you know, we can be a

629
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:51.199
little bit more sensitive, We can
be a little bit more detail oriented and

630
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:54.000
like really focus on something for a
long time and make sure it's like perfect

631
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:59.599
versus kind of like the masculine mentality
is just to get it done fast and

632
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:05.719
just do it. Feel like we're
over communicators. Yeah, yes, sometimes

633
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:08.480
finding that middle ground for different personality
types to work together to be difficult.

634
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:13.239
And I feel like since it's a
male dominated unfortunately women get that short on

635
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:16.400
a stick and it's not fair because
like to me, like I really fell

636
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:20.760
in love with this word at the
company I started working four years ago.

637
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:25.920
Inclusion, Like you really need diversity
inclusion to really have this like greater perspective,

638
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:28.920
because like if we have you only
have like a one type of person,

639
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:30.320
you only get a one type of
outcome. Right, you have this

640
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:35.360
right, you have this melting pot
of ideas, you know, with women,

641
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:38.119
different backgrounds, different whatever, you
know, whatever, right, we

642
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:47.800
all bring different strengths and insights to
teams and situations. And if you expect

643
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:58.719
women to the time act masculine or
to not embrace their feminine side, then

644
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:01.880
they're losing out on part of their
strengths, you know, as a woman

645
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:07.039
and what they contribute to the team
in terms of just like even just like

646
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:15.360
our empathy and our ability to you
know, problem solved with people. And

647
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:23.320
I think that's really important that you
know, we we recognize that a lot

648
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:30.159
of the people in positions of like
more decision making or just ownership in general,

649
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:35.440
you know, our men. Even
though that's the case, we should

650
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:39.679
definitely be like embracing the skill sets
that women have and what women contribute to

651
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:49.079
teams and instead of you know,
just being afraid of them or holding them

652
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:53.159
back or well that's unfortunate later too
that we didn't necessally bring up. And

653
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:58.559
that's just the good old fashioned sexism, and unfortunately it exists, and I

654
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:00.000
don't understand it. I have a
lot of women in my life that mean

655
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.920
a lot, but you know,
like my mom my, sister, like

656
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:07.639
I feel like that helps a lot, you know, but you know.

657
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:13.079
Unfortunately that is the truth. I'm
so stubborn about wearing pants at events and

658
00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:17.639
just always carrying boxes and just like
opening doors for myself. I'm like,

659
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:21.760
I worked at a Girl Scout camp. I grew up at a Girl Scout

660
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:27.800
camp. I've been around very powerful, confident women leaders my entire life,

661
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:36.599
and I'm very stubborn. And I'm
also very determined to not rely on other

662
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:44.199
people. And I think on like
the same note in terms of like that

663
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:50.840
the diversity also like not always expecting
women to act like a in like a

664
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:54.760
certain box of like you know,
never have expectations for how someone's gonna act.

665
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:57.920
Yeah, no, you really can't. You can't assume how it's like,

666
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:00.079
oh that's a you know, because
once you start doing it, it

667
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:04.280
becomes like a stereotype. Stereotyping and
in the worst way too, because you're

668
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:07.039
just assuming you don't really know where
that person came from. Right, Like

669
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:09.960
people will look at me and I'm
just like this cute blonde twenty something,

670
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:15.159
you know, and they might like
assume that like what does she know?

671
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:19.719
You know, and so like,
you know, and that's what I was

672
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:22.800
saying that it's like I have to
like we're compensate in my conversations so that

673
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:27.840
they take me seriously, Like I
have to work a little bit harder to

674
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:32.039
like sit at the table and have
That's what I was going to say with

675
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:37.280
educate that's right, well in the
book, but you and that's so you

676
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:39.480
probably know more than what people are
sitting at the table than you know more

677
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:44.639
than they do, which is like
the most unfortunate I say, listen to

678
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:47.360
your advocacy. You know what people
do. People people love to just say

679
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:51.840
things, and it's just so like
you know, like you have you actually

680
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:53.800
out here doing things, and that's
just such an unfortunate layer that it adds

681
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:57.039
to women in the industry that it's
like, hey, let's make it even

682
00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:02.760
harder. Like it's already accepted.
We're like not expecting that like a woman

683
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:07.800
could work at like a high level
position in a cannabis company. Are just

684
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:13.440
assuming that they work at the entry
level position, you know, right,

685
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:19.599
that's an assumption there. That's that's
happened to me. That's I've definitely been

686
00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:23.639
asked by a guys probably about three
times, oh you work in cannabis?

687
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:27.800
Where do you bud tend like not
even asking me like what I do.

688
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:31.639
They just assume that's like rooted to
like who like Unfortunately, that's like just

689
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:35.920
that them being prejudiced, like you
know, and that's just like like what

690
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:38.760
the hell, man, Like we
haven't got past that yet. Like it's

691
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:43.159
just no, and clearly there's actually
there's so many stories that echo like this.

692
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:45.880
You are not alone and it's awful. We've heard even worse things in

693
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:50.159
industry and it's disgusting. Ye,
it's like, man, it's still a

694
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:52.199
business, you know. It's like, I don't know, it's not that

695
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.679
big of a modustry. It's big, but it's not like it's that big.

696
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:58.920
No, it's kind of small.
Right, So everyone knows someone that

697
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:01.679
knows someone that knows someone kind of
thing you go to, you go to

698
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:05.960
like any event and you see you
pretty much see everyone at similar events consistently

699
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:07.679
within the area on the west side
of the state. Probably it's like that

700
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:10.960
is right, mel was like he
was familiar. It's like, you know,

701
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:14.239
we're just in the same spots at
the same time, you know,

702
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:17.000
but there's only so many canvas.
That was a good question that like led

703
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:22.320
to a whole thing, So thank
you whoever said that. I like no

704
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:25.960
preach, preach, I talk all
the time. I'm here, how's that

705
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:31.320
good? One? If you could
change one regulation one I'm guessing one regulation,

706
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:36.920
which would it be? And why? Yeah? Yeah, I would

707
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:43.360
definitely say the framework for consumption lounges. It's it's half bait. It was

708
00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:47.880
made by an administration that doesn't care. And with the current administration, they

709
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:52.480
recognize that there are a lot of
faults in the previous one and they kind

710
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:58.079
of like were put in to fix
everything essentially. So while yes you should

711
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:06.519
pressure and you know, have conversations
with political leaders and people in government positions,

712
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:12.079
with the current you know, administration, you know, they are very

713
00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:15.639
much so like open to ideas and
feedback and ways that they can make it

714
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:22.039
better. And so I think that's
definitely something that I am looking to work

715
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:29.000
with a group of like minded,
passionate entrepreneurs, especially a lot of women

716
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:35.280
that plan events in the industry because
you know, it's about time. Yeah,

717
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:37.960
I mean, like Cannabate they're out
here crushing it. Yeah, they're

718
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:42.639
everywhere. Like I can't look like
a day without seeing Cannaba event. They

719
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:49.719
don't shut out, get and married. So and what about you know,

720
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:54.760
do you think anything in legislation pops
out. So I think somebody mentioned to

721
00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:59.760
me that there was one there was
a lot of business owners that spoke up

722
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:01.519
tour that CURI meeting, because I
did get I did get the feedback on

723
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:07.519
it, but I was curious.
But you know, so they told me

724
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:12.519
that a lot of business owners and
workers were speaking up, but there was

725
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:16.960
one person I guess that spoke that
was an individual, and that individual was

726
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:22.360
a medical patient. And this kind
of you know, would coincide with some

727
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:24.760
of your interests most likely because you
know, you like the meda you know,

728
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:30.559
industry side of things. But she
was a medpatient that used to be

729
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:37.360
able to get medflower consistently and then
you know, they kind of changed everything

730
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:45.880
over to wreck and so made it
difficult now her flower. That's something right,

731
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:49.519
no matter where the wreck market goes, like, I feel like the

732
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.159
med market needs to exist for exactly
what you're saying, things like this,

733
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.800
where certain people who really need these
things to be clean of no molds,

734
00:52:55.800 --> 00:53:00.360
people who really need these high dose
of things, people who need caregiving and

735
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:05.280
like specific strains and specific things like
the man marketing. Unfortunately, no matter

736
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:07.920
how low, I don't even care
how low cards get. They it really

737
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:10.079
should never go away because as long
as there's one patient, there's in need,

738
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:14.199
you know. So it's like one
thing that I've always been. It's

739
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:16.159
unfortunate, you know, but like
you know, because there's real people who

740
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:20.159
really need this, you know what
I mean, there's just not enough.

741
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:22.159
There's not a lot of brands selling
in the medical as much as all that's

742
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:25.599
getting transferred into the rack on.
Yeah as well too, who's growing from

743
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:30.280
the medical because it's higher testing too, like you gotta it's higher people.

744
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:32.320
That person came and spoke because that's
an important thing, you know, to

745
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:36.920
show that it's like but she,
you know, I don't know what the

746
00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:38.360
case was. Do you want to
speak on it? Because I wasn't necessarily

747
00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:44.400
there, Do you know what I'm
talking about? Yeah? She? I

748
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:45.840
mean with HIPPA, I don't really
know if I can like say yeah,

749
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:51.599
I mean, yeah, you could
just sum up like basically it's just like

750
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:57.000
label, right, I mean that
that makes sense. I mean label to

751
00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:00.440
remediating, because you don't want someone
who's medical is now having to buy wreck

752
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:02.519
I think whatever, right, and
then she needs to know if it's good

753
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:06.480
quality, you know stuff. She
can't buy if you smoking that bottom and

754
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:10.760
stuff. That's a very fair point. And that's a huge thing just in

755
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:15.320
general. And I feel like marketing
remdiation's huge thing. Legislation needs to be

756
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:17.360
on there just in general. You
know, like we went out to Vegas

757
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:21.760
and they have on there and it's
like, you know, everything on there,

758
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.519
yeah, the consumers. Yeah,
and then people use it as a

759
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:31.679
flex you know, so like we're
not remediating so well, right is that

760
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:37.320
the blue one? Yep? That's
another thing that you know, if a

761
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:40.480
woman is trying to get into the
industry, she should she should look into

762
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:45.320
the brands that she's working with and
make sure that she stands behind it.

763
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:50.239
Because I will say, yeah,
working with Sea Junkie, you know you

764
00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:53.199
can stand behind you know the product. You know, there's no bud Hardeners,

765
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:57.000
there's nothing in it. So yeah, yeah, no, I mean

766
00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:00.639
that's very important because your brand the
world, especially for you as an entrepreneur

767
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:04.199
with your own brand, you have
to think about stuff like that for sure,

768
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:07.679
like even on that next layer,
you know, brand association. All

769
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:13.440
right, here's another one. What
has been or still is your biggest challenge

770
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:20.159
to overcome the cannabis industry. That's
a good one. You want to go,

771
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:23.320
you want to start. I had
a goal to make a billboard and

772
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:28.159
I did that. Honestly, I'm
I'm very happy with where I'm at right

773
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:31.320
now. You know, this is
this is, this is what I wanted.

774
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:34.639
You know, I'm with the company
that I want. I'm doing what

775
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:44.559
I want. What I have yet
to accomplish in the cannabis industry. I

776
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:46.400
really want to see bear I wanna
take off. I want to see us

777
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:52.719
go nation nationwide, get into other
states. Yeah, yeah, no,

778
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:55.519
I mean the markets. Now,
do you do you see anything like holding

779
00:55:55.519 --> 00:56:01.400
you back from that being in like
with cannabis. No, Well, the

780
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:05.079
thing is is I'm not touching flowers. No, I mean just like in

781
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:07.159
general, like us with my cannon
casts having cannon in our name, we

782
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:13.000
get flagged like every social media,
like it's a nightmare on YouTube because we

783
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:15.519
smoke weed. So they like,
you know, they hit us with that.

784
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:17.320
But again, like we're very true
believers, you know, and that

785
00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:21.320
shows that you believe in it and
putting cannabis on your stuff. I just

786
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:24.239
had to ask this is that's the
kind of the whole point that's well,

787
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:27.639
that's powerful. I just want to
make sure that you're like, no,

788
00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:30.079
that's the whole point, Like we're
always gonna get we're shadow band, you

789
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:32.639
know, this is this is where
we're fighting right now. You know.

790
00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:37.360
You know I'm advocating for for normalcy
and cannabis. It's we're still not there.

791
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:40.760
This is a huge you know,
give to the cannabis industry for that.

792
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:45.719
Isn't that true? Like some people
think that because we're legal, that

793
00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:47.239
we like we made it, and
like how far from the truth is that,

794
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:51.280
you know, it really is because
we have so much more to do

795
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:57.719
and there's a lot of risks involved
as well with having companies that don't deserve

796
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:02.920
to grow. We're own any cannabis
companies buying up grows and just pumping out

797
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:09.760
unhealthy toxic weed's and they got licenses
too. Well, you're affecting patients like

798
00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:13.719
that one you just brought them out. And then also like you're affecting like

799
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:16.440
everyone else's money too because now you're
bringing down the market and you're bringing down

800
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:21.800
quality too much. Yes, now
the price now it gets gus to go

801
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:23.519
lower of quality stuff. And it's
like and I'm not you know, I

802
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:27.320
just thinking from multiple ends it's just
such a negative thing when you flow the

803
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:30.519
marketphone of garbage, and there's a
lot of company out there who just they

804
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:34.119
don't even grow their plants mature.
They're just like get them in and get

805
00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:36.280
them out. You know. It's
like, I don't know, it's such

806
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:39.039
such a crazy industry. It's just
a strictly business. It's just numbers for

807
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:42.000
them at that point. They don't
even care for the planet. I love

808
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:44.079
them play. It's just like,
all right, eight weeks, chop it

809
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:46.880
wherever it's at, shop it because
we can get the most cycles at eight

810
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:52.960
weeks. Nice. Yeah, And
they're growing them real small to flowering them

811
00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:59.639
in smaller pots. You got any
more mill questions? I forgot that tastes

812
00:57:59.639 --> 00:58:04.559
good, that the blue of power
blue runs blue blue runs blue blue taste

813
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:07.599
like blue power. That's what I
smelt that at least it's kind of fruit

814
00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:10.719
loopy. Blue runs. Now we're
smoking fruit loopy. It's the best way

815
00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:14.400
I got. You got any more
questions? Canty with the best shot.

816
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:17.880
But I can't have to go back
and forth. Is okay? I think

817
00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:21.639
we did? Yeah, shout out
to everyone on the IG. I don't

818
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:23.800
think we asked this one and if
I did apologize, what is something you

819
00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:30.440
wish you had known before getting into
the cannabis industry? So something that you

820
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:38.079
wish you had known before getting too
the cannabis everything that's fair, it's fair.

821
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:49.280
Feel that sum just all the knowledge
about cannabis in general and like what

822
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:52.760
makes quality. But you got to
learn it like hands on. That's what

823
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:53.760
I'm saying, Like you got to
just get in there and do it.

824
00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:58.840
You know, sometimes that's true.
You know, I did go to school,

825
00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:01.320
but you can only learn so much. Weren't able to actually cultivate cannabis?

826
00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:07.320
It was probably right. It was
actually it wasn't even hemp based.

827
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:09.480
It was you know, it was
buying crops. It was you know,

828
00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:14.639
because we were using different substrates,
so we grew a couple different like honestly

829
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:21.920
vegetables, but the conversation was about
cannabis. And so at that time we

830
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:25.840
had like people come in that we're
professionals in the cannabis industry to speak in

831
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:30.079
class. And so I was already, like I said, shout out to

832
00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:32.960
my professor. We were highly involved
with like getting me into the cannabis industry.

833
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:36.800
But it was pretty easy, like
starting as a butttender is a super

834
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:38.760
great idea. It's a great start, you know, because I think you

835
00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:43.760
kind of get to really see all
the moving parts because you're seeing the back

836
00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:46.159
and the front end. You're literally
the middle man, you know. Yeah,

837
00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:49.760
that makes sense when you get the
first I ran the consumer too,

838
00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:52.480
you get the leader of the consumer
up. Knowledge is really what it comes

839
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:53.760
down to. I feel like that's
what I gained the most from being a

840
00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:58.480
bud tender is now being able to
just like understand these brands out in the

841
00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:00.119
market and just like build upon the
knowledge. You know what I'm saying.

842
01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:05.920
Yeah, that makes sense. See
I have So I have a chain of

843
01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:09.119
questions that kind of lead into each
other, and these are specifically for you.

844
01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:15.679
Two. What advice do you have
for the younger generation stepping into the

845
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:20.880
industry? You know, because you've
done it, like you know, so,

846
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:28.360
Yeah, definitely recognize your privilege because
there are people who were incarcerated and

847
01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:34.840
murdered for growing weed and being a
part of the industry. So it's really

848
01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:39.440
important that we recognize the people who
had to suffer for us to be where

849
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:45.280
we're at. That's awesome. And
then this next one, these next two

850
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:47.119
questions kind of lead in each other
and this one I find very true.

851
01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:51.000
So I want to say this.
It says, what are some challenges you

852
01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:53.719
both have to face being highly educated
women in the industry, and how do

853
01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:58.159
you handle these challenges to get the
respect you deserve? Because that's what I'm

854
01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:00.280
saying. I feel like, you
know, just you were saying you young

855
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:01.360
twenty year old, you know,
you're a young entrepreneur. I feel like

856
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:05.199
people are gonna be like, yeah, okay, but you're very strong,

857
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:07.719
will then you're pushing through it?
Like how what any like? Because like,

858
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:10.320
have you had any situations that like, like you said, Like,

859
01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:13.960
I just wanted to bring that up
because I feel like that was a good

860
01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:17.440
question. Oh yeah, I've had
people doubt me before just based on my

861
01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:24.760
appearance. But it's really the people
who take the time to listen to what

862
01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:29.519
I have to say and what my
experiences are and what my perception is and

863
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:39.599
utilizing my educational background to make decisions
and facilitating field work. You know,

864
01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:44.559
you're an expert. Well the same
with you because like you have like literally

865
01:01:44.559 --> 01:01:47.119
an education and cannabis and how new
is that people are not going to understand

866
01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:50.519
that sentence You're gonna be like,
I have an education, canis? So

867
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:54.119
that's how many challenges, you know, because like literally it was the other

868
01:01:54.199 --> 01:01:59.119
day they were they were saying something
and I said something. I was like

869
01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:02.960
lower the light and they were like
what and I was like yeah. They

870
01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:06.960
were like, you know about growing, and I was like, guys that

871
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:09.000
I told to this, But you
know, I just I don't really.

872
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:13.280
I don't talk about it because like
I do my my things that I need

873
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:15.400
to, I use the knowledge that
it's given me. It really helps being

874
01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:21.840
familiar with like nutrients and different kinds
of growing techniques because when I'm making the

875
01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:24.360
marketing material that I know the but
tenders want to know about to grow,

876
01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:28.079
I know how to ask the right
questions, you know what I'm saying.

877
01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:30.760
So it really does help because I
did have that hands on growing experience to

878
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:35.039
be able to create those marketing materials
and also just be comfortable in like a

879
01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:45.360
you know, commercial grow So you
got one no more? Yeah, I

880
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:46.760
just don't really, I just don't
really mention if, like you know,

881
01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:51.880
I just kind of let my actions
speak for themselves, you know, because

882
01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:55.280
otherwise people will about you. They'll
be like, oh you're yeah, yeah,

883
01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:58.840
I think that is all the questions. So yeah, that awesome,

884
01:02:58.840 --> 01:03:00.599
Thank you very much. Problem,
no I missed any of you guys.

885
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:02.960
Do you have any more male that
we wanted to cover? Because I really

886
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:06.559
that was good and thank you for
those responses because I feel like we got

887
01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:09.199
on some rants on some of those
that was really cool somebody that sent those

888
01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:13.320
requests and thank you. Yes,
that was a lot of fun now and

889
01:03:13.360 --> 01:03:15.840
honestly, like some of the questions
that, like, you know, people

890
01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:19.000
come up with aren't necessarily from our
perspective, So it's nice to be able

891
01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:22.559
to kind of like, oh mm
hmmm, I like that. Yeah,

892
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:24.119
me too. Any more shout outs
y'all want to give before we get out

893
01:03:24.119 --> 01:03:27.679
of here, because we're about rounding
out. Oh, then we have one

894
01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:30.800
more question, but oh we have
the fun question, the fun question,

895
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:32.559
But no, we have through shoutouts
first though. Yeah, yeah, cool,

896
01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:36.599
cool, any shot shoutout Gramazon,
shout out to Sea Junkie, shut

897
01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:44.639
Out Fruits, see all this weekend, Cash Basha, Trisha killing it,

898
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:51.239
see Adam Brooke. Yeah, mister
Hashbash, which we got to see shut

899
01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:58.440
Out Shadow, shut up my Mom, Hello Mom, Thank you Shadow,

900
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:06.039
Celia, see torri Leo oh,
Brandon for hooking up the interview. But

901
01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:09.239
yeah, Brandon Kate, we appreciate
you both. And honestly, if you

902
01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:12.079
didn't check out that episode, that
was a great episode about the Blacklist of

903
01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:15.480
am I. They're doing some really
cool things over there. Really. Yeah,

904
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:17.440
because people aren't getting bills paid in
the black list, mlies putting them

905
01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:20.159
on blast. Good guys as well. But the people who are not paying

906
01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:25.320
bills, they need huge if you
got to pay your bills, yeah,

907
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:28.880
blacklist, that's that's what Brandon can't
start. That's what it's crazy if they

908
01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:31.840
started it, and we love them
so shout out. But this last question

909
01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:35.320
is when Canadate made up for our
first episode and I we just it just

910
01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:40.719
kind of stuck that comes out and
we asked, yeah, all right,

911
01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:43.480
I'll I asked this question, so
all right, it's kind of a silly

912
01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:45.840
question but also like a real question
at the same time. So say you

913
01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:48.039
had like you had an eighth right
and you're about to open the name and

914
01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:54.840
I gota g popped out, whoa
right and was like, I'll grant you

915
01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:58.239
one. Wish I would if I
changed any one thing in the cannabis industry

916
01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:02.679
in an instant. What would it
be the industry as a whole does whatever

917
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:08.480
you want to. You know,
I would make it a more inviting space

918
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:13.199
for women. I would make it
just a more comfortable, softer space in

919
01:05:13.320 --> 01:05:17.199
general. You know what I'm saying
in the canvas injury in a whole mm

920
01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:21.880
hmm, I would I would dose
it with a little bit of compassion.

921
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:26.079
I hear you, know, I
hear you. Yeah, I think there

922
01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:30.280
is some type of empathy and compassion
that could be like if it hit the

923
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:32.159
market, it would be really useful
because I think sometimes it's it's a little

924
01:05:32.199 --> 01:05:35.760
cutthroat and people are so out here
to just you know, like with your

925
01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:40.320
eyes tell the whole story. You
know, it's very cutthroat and everyone thinks

926
01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:43.159
that you know, everyone's a challenge. But you know, if we work

927
01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:45.039
together and collaborate, like we can
make money together. You know a lot

928
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:47.800
of these brands at the top,
they're making money together. You know,

929
01:05:48.039 --> 01:05:53.239
even the ones that you think aren't, they are. They're collaborating exactly about

930
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:58.440
partnerships and that's how you achieve you
that's a good one because I do think

931
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:05.679
there is a lot of misk not
not enough compassion industry I would probably like

932
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:14.760
just remove the ability to remediate flower
nice because that takes away from the medical

933
01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:17.000
side, you know. Yeah.
Well, and then just the fact that

934
01:06:17.039 --> 01:06:20.800
it's not marked. We don't know
what we're getting until you buy it sometimes

935
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:26.360
and that's like unfortunate. We've all
been burnt that way. And the ability

936
01:06:26.519 --> 01:06:30.760
to label something as you know,
USD organic, you know, that would

937
01:06:30.800 --> 01:06:34.559
be really important too because that would
also help with decision making and transparency.

938
01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:41.360
That's a great one thought about that. That's why we asked this question Packaging

939
01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:45.280
packaging number one. That's like the
umbrella topic to that. Yeah, well

940
01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:48.320
that's true because there's not I don't
want to say there's not enough requirements,

941
01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:51.239
but there's not enough requirements sometimes on
some of this packaging, Like some of

942
01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:57.159
this stuff needs to be you know, the information is uh transparency you said

943
01:06:57.199 --> 01:07:00.039
earlier. It's just it goes a
long way. That's why I love and

944
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:02.079
I see a brand that's like no
remediation or here's our flower, here's the

945
01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:06.480
c o A or the you know
whatever QR code do it? So all

946
01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:11.280
right, well, yeah, thank
you for coming on Summer sky handles,

947
01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:16.800
Instagram handles. What are they want
to check in the summer for why I

948
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:20.880
love it because I gotta say to
ease too, and then Berijuana dot am

949
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:25.840
I all right e A R I
j u A n A. Oh yeah,

950
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:30.000
check them out. Support support women's
industry because it's there's not enough and

951
01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:31.880
you know, that's why we're really
trying to highlight as much women's industry as

952
01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:35.480
we can, because it's just like
not enough communication about the struggle. Is

953
01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:39.639
that y'all deal with, you know, And unfortunately we can't understand, you

954
01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:43.320
know, so as we can listen, you know. Yeah, sounds like

955
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:45.960
that's all I got. You know, that's all we're trying. We can

956
01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:49.159
write a book about it. Yeah, you know, we got to hear

957
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:51.400
your thoughts. We got to you
know, talk about what you do for

958
01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:55.800
the industry, all that y'all bring, the entrepreneurship, the hustle, the

959
01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:59.840
brand, y'all health really cool,
so really cool and we're gonna probably see

960
01:07:59.880 --> 01:08:02.719
you hash Beast, so see you
at Meconne Puff. Oh yeah, meconnect

961
01:08:02.760 --> 01:08:06.199
Poff our Canda. Events are starting. It's getting warm in Michigan, so

962
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:10.800
I feel like we're gonna start seeing
events and like I'm so excited. Yeah,

963
01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:13.880
me too. Thank you again each
of you for joining us in the

964
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:17.720
studio with your business schedules. This
was awesome. And catch us live every

965
01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:21.319
Saturday at nine am. And that's
always groovy. We're here for Mechanic Cast

966
01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:26.279
Everywhere, groovy music, two E's
Groovy, two e's know Why Everywhere,

967
01:08:26.359 --> 01:08:29.640
Canadate Everywhere, mechaniccas dot com for
all those blogs he's working his ass off

968
01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:31.920
on. And then yeah, and
can was gonna say, as always,

969
01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:35.560
we're here to advocate and fun till
next time. I first