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A few days ago the winners of
the Podcast Global Waves Awards were announced in

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their third edition and I can finally
tell you about a small excerpt that I

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found in one of the episodes of
nobody knows anything. One of the nominees

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who did not win this edition.
We welcome you across the microphone. On

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the other side of the microphone,
a project by Jorge Marín grandson in which

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you will find your daily ration of
metapodcasting, casting, with news, events,

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tools or episodes of opinion. Not
even in ten minutes. Ten minutes,

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ten minutes, very good to all. Start a new chapter on the

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other side of the microphone. I
am Jorge Marín and on this occasion I

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bring you a new reflection, a
new chapter of opinion on a topic related

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to the podcasting that surrounds me.
Well, it surrounds me in this case,

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although it' s true that he' s a podcastine a little far

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from me. I' m neither
a winner nor a nominee for wave awards.

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I' m just a hearer of
the well that I' m going

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to talk to you about after the
podcast. No one knows anything and a

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few statements made by one of its
members, which one of its members made

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a few days ago, a few
weeks ago. And it is that,

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as many of you will know,
no one knows anything about the radio program

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of the network being that has been
broadcast since the two thousand thirteen. If

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I' m not mistaken, he
was nominated in the third edition of the

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Podcast Global Wave Awards. He didn' t win. I was waiting to

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see if, indeed, this statuette
this horse was carrying, but in the

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end it was not. A week
ago the winners were announced, week week

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and peak almost two were announced this
year' s winners and well, nobody

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knows anything. He was nominated as
the best conversational podcast and finally he hasn

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' t taken it. The point
is, no one knows anything. Already

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took a wave to the best radio
idea in the year two thousand nineteen and

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after this nomination and after this award
five years ago, Berto Romero said a

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few statements. He announced a few
statements in the 29th episode of his 11th

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season almost almost a month ago.
Well, the case. I' m

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going to put on a little extract, but since I don' t want

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to mess with the mess, I
don' t want to be with the

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tarrat or anyone else knows anything.
I' m going to give you a

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little squirt to see what this is
about. But the controversial doesn' t

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come here. The controversial is nominated
as the best conversational podcast. That'

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s where he saw it. I
found out then that before this morning I

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' m going to see the waves
that conversational to see if you' re

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going to talk, you just go
and we don' t win. That

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' s why I broke the shit
this morning. I think pussy. You

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have one, one person, one
oscar, one wave at home, which

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is nobody' s knows anything.
Better idea We already have a better idea

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of radio and I go see and
better radio idea and I look on the

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plate, but it doesn' t
put podcast anywhere. It doesn' t

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give me the radio idea that we
were nominated as a radio show at the

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time. Sure, but now we' re nominated as a show, like

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podcast, look then, but what
did I tell you? Always my question,

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but what did I tell you?
And this argument between quotation marks lasts

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a few minutes and Berto Romero reflects
on Let' s say the wrong thing,

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the erratic thing. I don'
t know if I' d even

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dare say hypocrite. I don'
t know if it would be the word

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not to nominate anyone now knows anything
like better conversational podcast, when I had

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previously been the winner of a better
radio show, better radio idea. And

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throughout this conversation, Berto Romero,
because he exposes the reasons why he believes

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that it is a radio program and
not a podcast, because it is subject

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to say the rules imposed by the
chain itself seri and by the grill itself

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within a radio program or inside a
radio grill Go and do not say all

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the advantages or all the characteristics that
do have a podcast. While it is

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true that they have absolute freedom,
total freedom, total improvisation, they do,

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in fact, allow me to express
barbarities within a radio program. I

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don' t know if it'
s a maximum audience or not, but

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well it' s broadcast by one
of the most important channels in Spain,

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at 12 noon each weekend, so
listen. While it is true that you

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would have to be careful when making
some statement, you never have it and

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you say true barbarities and never anyone
tells you anything. On the contrary,

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they are applauded because they are comical, because they are two great television radio

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figures and because they are two cracks. But outside of that freedom let'

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s say argumental or editorial. He' s got nothing more than a podcast.

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It means its duration is always the
same. Its publication, its periodicity

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is always the same. That this
can also be applied to the podcast,

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but it is always broadcast on Saturday
mornings and is always published in podcast format

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after it has been published in open
format on the radio, so we could

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really say that it is a podcast, a radio program recast in podcast.

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I know this only matters to the
most purists in the format. Look,

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I don' t know, it
won' t be me telling the chain

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to be what it has to do
or to whom it has to give the

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awards waves, or how it has
to broadcast its program, or to them,

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or when it lands, or to
anyone else' s. But as

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a podcasting lover. I agree very
much with Humberto Romero with his words.

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While it is true that, as
Andrea andréu says good source, no one

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knows anything. It' s a
radio show that podcastes. He has nothing

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but that editorial freedom, because,
for everything else, it' s a

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radio show. It' s broadcast
first on radio, it' s got

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a set time. Until a few
years ago different commercial songs were put on,

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different musics that in the end ended
up removing because of the problems that

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has caused them on the different platforms
like podcast eye not like radio, because

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as radio they had those music licenses
through the chain to be but as podcast

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not, then that made them regular. They' re there, let'

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s say, halfway between a radio
show and a podcast, we could consider

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it both ways. But since it
is broadcast in the first place as a

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radio program and then already broadcast on
podcast, it really is a radio program

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recast in podcast. And that'
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s statements, because I thought he
was very brave on his part. The

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truth is to applaud, because he
hears others sure would have shut up just

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in case he fell for the prize. Hey, they' re giving us

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an award for the radio show.
Welcome so they give us a podcast program,

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welcome, whether they give us a
program as a video streaming program,

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because listen, welcome, that is, the more prizes is better. And

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at last and I finish this,
because as I said, we care only

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about the purists of podcasting. Nor
am I a faithful advocate that certain things

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cannot be done with podcasts or not. But what I' m clear about

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is when a program, a podcast, comes in from another format, let

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' s say it' s a
YouTube video, whether it' s a

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radio program, or an event that
is then recast into podcast. I think

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we need to make this clear.
Hey, this isn' t a native

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podcast, it' s a recast
radio show. And the very jury of

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the wave awards themselves, which nominated
this radio program, I think they should

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have seen it that way, especially
considering that it already took a wave five

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years ago as a better radio program, as a better radio idea. That

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' s why I want to give
you my full support and a round of

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applause to see everything, because I
think you deserve it. Very brave to

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say this in a radio program of
the chain itself that is giving you or

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of the same group that is giving
you or that is nominating you to an

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award that has already given you another
prize and that is one of the most

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important prizes in our country in terms
of audiovisual content. While it is true

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that these awards global podcast waves,
let' s say they are the distant

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cousins of the native waves, of
the big probes, well, okay,

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but hey you' re telling them. Hey, you guys are a little

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hypocritical. A few years ago you
gave it to me as a better radio

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show and now you' re going
to give it to me as a best

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podcast, because man, it'
s not very coherent and that' s

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exactly what someone who is very fond
of podcast format says. I think that

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' s where the words come from. While Andrew is, too. But,

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Berto is a confessed listener. Vía
has gone through a multitude of podcasts

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and not precisely from the network to
the air of the group Prisa, but

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mundane podcasts, so to speak,
podcasts that could be recorded on the top

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floor to mine or in the episode
of my bass or at any point in

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the Spanish geography. What a stand- alone podcast. He' s totally

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amateur and I don' t know. I believe that it has been or

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has been very courageous in these statements, as I said before, and we

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must applaud him. We must applaud
him because I am sure that not much

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would they dare to say it knowing
that by those statements. Well, man,

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it' s not like I can
lose the prize. But then if

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you finally get it and I appreciate
it, man, thank you so much

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for this award. I didn'
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know what I' m sure I' m not, and this is another

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little reflection I wanted to make.
I am sure that if in the end

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this same speech that he said on
the 29th show of his 10th season,

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he would have extended this joke,
they would have extended it on their own

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at the awards gala itself, if
he had said, because that he does

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not want it, that this is
a radio show, that it is not

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a podcast. Anyway, they would
have lengthened this conversation much more, because

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every time this topic comes up they
have this same discussion. This is something

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that I' ve wanted for a
long time, because every time André Hiberto

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discusses whether it' s podcast or
not podcast, they put a little bit

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there. But with the global waves
of the podcast, it seemed to me

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the perfect excuse, as they have
not taken it. I was able to

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advance this chapter a little bit because
I was waiting if they would eventually take

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it to see that I was going
to declare Berto in collecting the prize.

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But it wasn' t like that. Well, hey, I can'

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t congratulate you as prize winners.
But I do congratulate Berto on his statements,

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because I already say that I found
them very courageous and very admirable.

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Not everyone, surely not everyone would
have done it before closing this episode and

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of the week itself I do not
want to say goodbye without talking to you

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about what concerns us a podcast that
comes to us from the hand of Argal

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and that supports this side of the
microphone throughout the month of April. The

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idea of this podcast project arose from
the need to create a space where deep,

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irrelevant issues that affect our society could
be addressed, and to do so

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in order to create community dialogue and
promote social change. Thanks to this format

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that we like so much listen Now
what we worry about on the main podcast

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platforms and for them you only have
to enter the link that I will leave

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you in the notes of this episode, of this last episode of the week,

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that you have a great weekend full
of podcast that will take prizes to

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the best radio program, to the
best podcast or that will help improve the

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society. Since no one knows anything, or what worries us don' t

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forget to enter the telegram channel through
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Barragragracia. Through this link that Carmen
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to vote tomorrow the best chapters of
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to go, creating, to profile
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so, together with the Community that
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and that is helping me week after
week, with its comics with its feedback,

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with its reviews and with its criticisms, we must also criticize the podcast

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when you do not like everything that
happens with it. Thanks for staying the

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other way. And now I say
goodbye, and how every day I go

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back to that place where you are
right now, across the microphone,