A few days ago the winners of the Podcast Global Waves Awards were announced in
their third edition and I can finally tell you about a small excerpt that I
found in one of the episodes of nobody knows anything. One of the nominees
who did not win this edition. We welcome you across the microphone. On
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other side of the microphone. I am Jorge Marín and on this occasion I
bring you a new reflection, a new chapter of opinion on a topic related
to the podcasting that surrounds me. Well, it surrounds me in this case,
although it' s true that he' s a podcastine a little far
from me. I' m neither a winner nor a nominee for wave awards.
I' m just a hearer of the well that I' m going
to talk to you about after the podcast. No one knows anything and a
few statements made by one of its members, which one of its members made
a few days ago, a few weeks ago. And it is that,
as many of you will know, no one knows anything about the radio program
of the network being that has been broadcast since the two thousand thirteen. If
I' m not mistaken, he was nominated in the third edition of the
Podcast Global Wave Awards. He didn' t win. I was waiting to
see if, indeed, this statuette this horse was carrying, but in the
end it was not. A week ago the winners were announced, week week
and peak almost two were announced this year' s winners and well, nobody
knows anything. He was nominated as the best conversational podcast and finally he hasn
' t taken it. The point is, no one knows anything. Already
took a wave to the best radio idea in the year two thousand nineteen and
after this nomination and after this award five years ago, Berto Romero said a
few statements. He announced a few statements in the 29th episode of his 11th
season almost almost a month ago. Well, the case. I' m
going to put on a little extract, but since I don' t want
to mess with the mess, I don' t want to be with the
tarrat or anyone else knows anything. I' m going to give you a
little squirt to see what this is about. But the controversial doesn' t
come here. The controversial is nominated as the best conversational podcast. That'
s where he saw it. I found out then that before this morning I
' m going to see the waves that conversational to see if you' re
going to talk, you just go and we don' t win. That
' s why I broke the shit this morning. I think pussy. You
have one, one person, one oscar, one wave at home, which
is nobody' s knows anything. Better idea We already have a better idea
of radio and I go see and better radio idea and I look on the
plate, but it doesn' t put podcast anywhere. It doesn' t
give me the radio idea that we were nominated as a radio show at the
time. Sure, but now we' re nominated as a show, like
podcast, look then, but what did I tell you? Always my question,
but what did I tell you? And this argument between quotation marks lasts
a few minutes and Berto Romero reflects on Let' s say the wrong thing,
the erratic thing. I don' t know if I' d even
dare say hypocrite. I don' t know if it would be the word
not to nominate anyone now knows anything like better conversational podcast, when I had
previously been the winner of a better radio show, better radio idea. And
throughout this conversation, Berto Romero, because he exposes the reasons why he believes
that it is a radio program and not a podcast, because it is subject
to say the rules imposed by the chain itself seri and by the grill itself
within a radio program or inside a radio grill Go and do not say all
the advantages or all the characteristics that do have a podcast. While it is
true that they have absolute freedom, total freedom, total improvisation, they do,
in fact, allow me to express barbarities within a radio program. I
don' t know if it' s a maximum audience or not, but
well it' s broadcast by one of the most important channels in Spain,
at 12 noon each weekend, so listen. While it is true that you
would have to be careful when making some statement, you never have it and
you say true barbarities and never anyone tells you anything. On the contrary,
they are applauded because they are comical, because they are two great television radio
figures and because they are two cracks. But outside of that freedom let'
s say argumental or editorial. He' s got nothing more than a podcast.
It means its duration is always the same. Its publication, its periodicity
is always the same. That this can also be applied to the podcast,
but it is always broadcast on Saturday mornings and is always published in podcast format
after it has been published in open format on the radio, so we could
really say that it is a podcast, a radio program recast in podcast.
I know this only matters to the most purists in the format. Look,
I don' t know, it won' t be me telling the chain
to be what it has to do or to whom it has to give the
awards waves, or how it has to broadcast its program, or to them,
or when it lands, or to anyone else' s. But as
a podcasting lover. I agree very much with Humberto Romero with his words.
While it is true that, as Andrea andréu says good source, no one
knows anything. It' s a radio show that podcastes. He has nothing
but that editorial freedom, because, for everything else, it' s a
radio show. It' s broadcast first on radio, it' s got
a set time. Until a few years ago different commercial songs were put on,
different musics that in the end ended up removing because of the problems that
has caused them on the different platforms like podcast eye not like radio, because
as radio they had those music licenses through the chain to be but as podcast
not, then that made them regular. They' re there, let'
s say, halfway between a radio show and a podcast, we could consider
it both ways. But since it is broadcast in the first place as a
radio program and then already broadcast on podcast, it really is a radio program
recast in podcast. And that' s why I want to praise Berto'
s statements, because I thought he was very brave on his part. The
truth is to applaud, because he hears others sure would have shut up just
in case he fell for the prize. Hey, they' re giving us
an award for the radio show. Welcome so they give us a podcast program,
welcome, whether they give us a program as a video streaming program,
because listen, welcome, that is, the more prizes is better. And
at last and I finish this, because as I said, we care only
about the purists of podcasting. Nor am I a faithful advocate that certain things
cannot be done with podcasts or not. But what I' m clear about
is when a program, a podcast, comes in from another format, let
' s say it' s a YouTube video, whether it' s a
radio program, or an event that is then recast into podcast. I think
we need to make this clear. Hey, this isn' t a native
podcast, it' s a recast radio show. And the very jury of
the wave awards themselves, which nominated this radio program, I think they should
have seen it that way, especially considering that it already took a wave five
years ago as a better radio program, as a better radio idea. That
' s why I want to give you my full support and a round of
applause to see everything, because I think you deserve it. Very brave to
say this in a radio program of the chain itself that is giving you or
of the same group that is giving you or that is nominating you to an
award that has already given you another prize and that is one of the most
important prizes in our country in terms of audiovisual content. While it is true
that these awards global podcast waves, let' s say they are the distant
cousins of the native waves, of the big probes, well, okay,
but hey you' re telling them. Hey, you guys are a little
hypocritical. A few years ago you gave it to me as a better radio
show and now you' re going to give it to me as a best
podcast, because man, it' s not very coherent and that' s
exactly what someone who is very fond of podcast format says. I think that
' s where the words come from. While Andrew is, too. But,
Berto is a confessed listener. Vía has gone through a multitude of podcasts
and not precisely from the network to the air of the group Prisa, but
mundane podcasts, so to speak, podcasts that could be recorded on the top
floor to mine or in the episode of my bass or at any point in
the Spanish geography. What a stand- alone podcast. He' s totally
amateur and I don' t know. I believe that it has been or
has been very courageous in these statements, as I said before, and we
must applaud him. We must applaud him because I am sure that not much
would they dare to say it knowing that by those statements. Well, man,
it' s not like I can lose the prize. But then if
you finally get it and I appreciate it, man, thank you so much
for this award. I didn' t expect it. I don' t
know what I' m sure I' m not, and this is another
little reflection I wanted to make. I am sure that if in the end
this same speech that he said on the 29th show of his 10th season,
he would have extended this joke, they would have extended it on their own
at the awards gala itself, if he had said, because that he does
not want it, that this is a radio show, that it is not
a podcast. Anyway, they would have lengthened this conversation much more, because
every time this topic comes up they have this same discussion. This is something
that I' ve wanted for a long time, because every time André Hiberto
discusses whether it' s podcast or not podcast, they put a little bit
there. But with the global waves of the podcast, it seemed to me
the perfect excuse, as they have not taken it. I was able to
advance this chapter a little bit because I was waiting if they would eventually take
it to see that I was going to declare Berto in collecting the prize.
But it wasn' t like that. Well, hey, I can'
t congratulate you as prize winners. But I do congratulate Berto on his statements,
because I already say that I found them very courageous and very admirable.
Not everyone, surely not everyone would have done it before closing this episode and
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