WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:06.480 Fame. He'd liked to be walked on a leash and play really dirty, 2 00:00:06.639 --> 00:00:11.199 kinky sex games. Is the guy put the cock in the peacock network. 3 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:15.919 Okay, bitch, hey, everybody, aj Ben's are here with famous a 4 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:20.480 bitch. This is your free show. Today's May tenth. I'm recording this 5 00:00:20.679 --> 00:00:27.160 at night eight twenty four pm. You'll get this, I assume someday Saturday. 6 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:33.600 I just decided to hop on here because a couple of things occurred and 7 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:38.520 I got into melancholy mood. And whenever I get that way, I love 8 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:43.840 to talk. And I figured, why not, you know, let me 9 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:48.280 give I'm gonna give a show. Well, I feel that I have something 10 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:53.079 to give. Normally Fridays is a little bit of a break for me. 11 00:00:54.240 --> 00:00:59.799 But you know, I got my free shows during the week, I mean 12 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:03.280 Patreon during the week and my free shows, which I promise you guys. 13 00:01:03.040 --> 00:01:07.959 And the politics, of course comes every weekend. Sometimes it comes Monday because 14 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:12.640 to me, to me, I always say Sunday ends the week. I 15 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:19.319 always think Monday begins the week. I don't trust calendars, and it's just 16 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:21.480 Sunday's the end of the week, you know what I mean. It's just 17 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:23.799 not the beginning. I don't know who's one of that, but it's wrong. 18 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:32.760 So today we have to move hotels. It happens at the one hotel 19 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:34.640 I stay at. If you stay more than twenty one days, you got 20 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:40.040 to leave for a day, then you can come back for twenty one more 21 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:44.359 days. So it just happened to be this morning that I had to leave, 22 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:49.239 and Rocco's at school. He's got a lot of stuff, you know, 23 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:53.439 the guy, his computer screen, bunch of clothes, a suitcase. 24 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:57.200 I got my suitcases, begs, you know, food that I keep in 25 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:02.239 the fridge. That's parish. I got a lug with me, yogat cereal, 26 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:07.319 all that kind of stuff, my backpack, my stuff for the podcast. 27 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:13.520 And it's only like a mile two miles away. But of course I 28 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:21.520 get here and I'm complaining because there's no cart outside to take all this junk 29 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:28.120 up to the third floor. Not only that, the elevator doesn't work at 30 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:36.080 this quality in so I had to make four trips up, up and down 31 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:40.759 the steps. Not good. Probably the most cardio I've had all week, 32 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:47.280 but not the best thing. I'm pissing and moaning about it, but I 33 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:54.319 get hit with news that the great Sam Rubin died entertainment journalists who I knew 34 00:02:54.360 --> 00:03:00.000 pretty well. And I'll get to him in a second because we were tied 35 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:06.000 together for a bit there and we're gonna do something with a TV show that 36 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:09.479 didn't pan out, but got to dome. Great guy, great guy, 37 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:16.599 just the kind of guy you just can't say anything bad about. Sixty four 38 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:24.039 years old. I guess the heart attack knocks him out and never thought or 39 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:29.080 never, I mean, this is a guy that lived a clean life. 40 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:32.400 You know, life, kids, great job, red carpets all the time, 41 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:39.080 interviewing movie stars and TV stars. I'll get to him in a bit, 42 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:46.159 but first I wanted to say some of the most fun I have is 43 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:53.000 when I drive my son to a friend's house. It makes you feel young 44 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:57.960 because they're doing young things. Where are you going? Can you take me 45 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:00.000 the cell and So's house? What are you gonna do? A got a 46 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:03.680 big basketball court and he's got a hot tub in the backyard, and you 47 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:08.639 know some girls are gonna come by. And I said, don't be an 48 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:10.639 asshole. No, no, no, no, his parents are home. 49 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:13.280 No, I wouldn't do that. That. Okay, he's a good boy, 50 00:04:14.439 --> 00:04:19.160 but it's a lot. Like my father and I. We got close 51 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:28.319 during car rides. I knew my father loved me to death, but car 52 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:31.920 rides were something that I cherished because isn't it stupid? We did not have 53 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:35.000 to look each other in the eye. I don't know why that was a 54 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:40.560 thing when I was a kid, but it was easier to talk to him 55 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:46.000 next to him. Not looking at him makes no sense. He wasn't mean. 56 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:48.319 He was always funny. I mean he got angry at times, but 57 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:53.199 never never scary. He never hit me, never let a hand on me. 58 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:58.399 But so car rides became a thing I look forward to. And when't 59 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:00.639 you know it, that's the way. It is a rockall and I so, 60 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:09.800 uh, We're taking the Lincoln down into Vannys, but a really nice 61 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:13.879 section of Van Nis, believe it or not, those of you know California. 62 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:17.680 You can make a right or left and suddenly be on a beautiful street 63 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:24.000 with beautiful homes and you just wouldn't know from you know, two hundred yards 64 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:27.319 away, but there it is. Then he has friends to live up on 65 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:32.399 Mohand Drive, and that's when you go, oh my god, what does 66 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:36.360 that guy's father do? You know? And he casually tells me, oh, 67 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:41.480 that's Jamie Fox is her uncle, or just he comes out. He 68 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:45.800 doesn't care. He knows these famous people. Yeah, Jamie was at the 69 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:47.879 park birthday party. I'm like, how could you not tell me that? 70 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:51.720 I don't know? He doesn't care what I do. Most kids don't care 71 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:57.879 what that dad does. So we're driving the car and I'm I Usually we 72 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:02.879 sync up with the bluetooth, his phone, his rap songs. You know, 73 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:06.519 all the hip guys that are out now, the guys that I like 74 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:12.720 some, you know, the Drakes and Lil so and so and Shorty so 75 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:18.199 and so, and you know Kanye who I like a lot. But I 76 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:21.399 said, I'm gonna play by music tonight, and my father would say the 77 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:27.800 same thing. And I put on ninety seven point four The Wave That's out 78 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:31.839 of here with California. It's a great station on Friday nights especially. They 79 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:39.199 hit you with songs upside your head that you just you didn't forget about them. 80 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:45.160 But the second you hear the first note, it jolts you back into 81 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:50.439 where you were, who you were with. What else does that but music? 82 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:57.199 Nothing? So right away, boy, George's on do you really want 83 00:06:57.199 --> 00:07:00.600 to hurt me, and I'm trying to playing to him. Who boy George 84 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:04.000 was He's still around, But I said, you have no idea. We 85 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:06.720 didn't know what this guy was. We didn't even know if he was a 86 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:13.079 guy. He came out with this different colored hair, and he wore like 87 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:17.399 look like big pajamas. It was a very strange thing. His nails were 88 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:21.040 painted. He didn't come out and say he was gay. But then again, 89 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:26.040 I come from the generation where we didn't even Knowlton John was gay. 90 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:30.639 So what did we know? We just loved his music? So do you 91 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:32.639 really want to hurt me? As a I love that song. It's such 92 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:39.600 a it just pulls the heart out of you, asking somebody, do you 93 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:44.639 really want to hurt me? Kills me? So we go from that song 94 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:50.519 and oh, by the way, I forgot I when I made the movie 95 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:58.959 PS Your Cat Is Dead with Steve Gutenberg. I love the movie. It's 96 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:01.759 a small independent film. I did a good job in it. I played 97 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:07.800 a crazy gay guy who wanted to fight and fuck. Excuse my language. 98 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:11.240 That's the way I told Steve. I see him a guy that wants to 99 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:15.759 fight as much as fucking. He loved it because he asked me, how 100 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:22.560 do you see this crazy Carmine character? And I I pierced my eyebrow, 101 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:26.199 I pierced my nipples. I got a wig, and I cut my hair 102 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:33.120 really short to have the girl style this wig into this crazy style. I 103 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:37.320 worked out twice a day. I got big, I got beefy. Somewhere 104 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:41.440 there's a picture. Maybe I'll post it on the podcast obsess page. I 105 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:43.000 wanted to look rough and tough, and I got a lot of definition, 106 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:50.519 and I wore a mesh shirt and I went to the movie premiere, and 107 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:54.639 you know, it's when you see a movie, you know what's gonna be 108 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:58.519 a big movie, like a Rocky bell Bow. Oh you know, Okay, 109 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:01.279 this is a little Nietzche movie, an independent film, small budget. 110 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:07.480 People will find it. I was glad to share the scream with Gutenberg, 111 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:13.039 who's one of the nicest guys in the world. The credits roll and it's 112 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:22.559 it's boy George singing Crystal Blue Persuasion. I've always loved that song. It 113 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:26.559 just does something to me. That's a beautiful, pretty lyric, beautiful music 114 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:31.679 behind it. And I remember I felt like I was in a real movie 115 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:37.480 because as the credits rolled, I heard boy George singing, and I thought, 116 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:41.000 Wow, this is fucking cool. I can walk out of this premiere. 117 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:46.600 It just felt different than some other things I've done in showbiz. And 118 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:52.159 then I got rocked right back into Hollywood because the girl I took. Some 119 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:56.960 girl I think I went out would have liked three nights and I just said, 120 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:01.679 you want to go to this movie thing? It's yeah, I'll go. 121 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:05.440 And like two nights before that, she came over my my house and 122 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:11.320 we had some fun and I wasn't doing any drugs at this point. I 123 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:13.519 mean I was doing a pain pill now and then for my back, but 124 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:18.440 there was no cocaine in my life. Nothing. And she goes to me 125 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:20.559 after the movie's over, she goes, you know what I forgot your house? 126 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:24.279 I said what I'd never even heard. I couldn't believe it I was 127 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:28.320 hearing. She goes, I left some crystal meth there and I didn't even 128 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:33.519 know. I go, you left what crystal? Myth? Well, what 129 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:37.240 does it even look like? It was wrapped in a little piece of paper. 130 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:41.440 It's behind the lamp on your night table, and you could just throw 131 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:43.639 it out. It's so little that was like hardly anything left. I said, 132 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:46.720 do you you take to use that? Oh once in a while, 133 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:50.320 just you know, once in a while. I couldn't. I'm like, 134 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:56.720 yeah, you're in Hollywood. And then I realized, well, I didn't 135 00:10:56.759 --> 00:11:01.519 have to realize this, but there was so many girls in LA, not 136 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:07.360 in New York. So many girls in LA. Because the restaurants close and 137 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.639 the nightclubs closed at two, people still want to go. They want still 138 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:18.360 want to party, and you end up going to people's homes and people have 139 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:24.240 drugs at their houses. And I began to think, all right, well, 140 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:26.279 it's like keeping liquor at your house. You gotta have a little cocaine 141 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:30.480 at your house. You gotta have some weed at your house. I couldn't 142 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:33.600 believe I was doing it, but I did it. It's stupid, but 143 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:39.000 it's it's stupid, stupid, stupid. But I'm not blaming the girls because 144 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:43.240 they didn't make me do it. But that was like the agenda. Anyhow, 145 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:48.840 we got through that rough patch. But the next song comes on, 146 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:54.159 never Gonna Get It by En Vogue, Never Gonna Get It, never Gonna 147 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:56.639 get It, never gonna get it, never gonna get It. Don't overlook 148 00:11:56.679 --> 00:12:03.240 that song. Don't overlook that song. That song is a killer if you've 149 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:07.200 ever had a girlfriend and you've done her wrong. And the way that song 150 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:13.000 begins when she says, I remember how it used to be. You never 151 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:16.440 were this nice. You can't fool me. Now you're talking like you made 152 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:20.360 a big change. The more you talk, the more you said, the 153 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:24.919 more things sound the same. And then she has like the girls next door 154 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:31.039 who are like her girlfriend's giving you shit too. And at the end or 155 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:35.679 towards the end of the song, the lyric is like, it doesn't matter 156 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:39.679 what you do or what you say. This is her friend saying this. 157 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:43.879 She doesn't love you no way. Maybe next time you'll give you a woman 158 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:50.519 a little respect so you won't be hearing her say no way. Oh my 159 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:54.480 god, that song is so painful. Now I'm not going through a breakup. 160 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:58.080 That's not why I'm bringing it up. But look, there are some 161 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:05.679 truckers driving through the middle of California tonight, bringing produce and what have you 162 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:11.720 to different stores and through in the middle of nowhere. I know they hear 163 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:15.120 that song and they're shedding a tear. I don't care how big and how 164 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:18.799 bad they are. That's a killer song. With a girl and her girlfriend's 165 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:24.879 telling you how you fucked up and you're never gonna get it anymore. It's 166 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:30.840 a killer. And I was explaining to Rocco how it was at nightclubs, 167 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:33.519 you know, because he's always with his phone. Every kid his age the 168 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:39.279 phones in their hands constantly. And I said, you know, like it 169 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.919 was different than you. You have to go approach a girl because what happened 170 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:48.120 to the next song was Michael Jackson Got to Rock with You. And I'm 171 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:52.840 like, oh my god, Rocco this album and I could still see Michael 172 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:58.039 Jackson while he still looked like Michael Jackson. I said, you have no 173 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.879 idea that Michael Jackson you saw uh at the end of his life. This 174 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:09.559 album, this song one of the go to rock with you. You think 175 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:13.720 of the songs right now that these rappers think or or or even the female 176 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:18.559 rappers think, or love songs or have any kind of element in them that 177 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:24.519 makes a guy want to be with them. And then you hear Michael Jackson 178 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:28.039 saying, girl, close your eyes, let that rhythm get into you. 179 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:33.559 Don't try to fight it. There ain't nothing that you can do. Relax 180 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:37.720 your mind, lay back and groove with mind. You gotta feel that heat 181 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.639 and we can ride the boogie and share that beat of love. It's I 182 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:50.000 remember hearing this song. I told Rocko at a club called uh double Metro 183 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:54.159 seven hundred because it was Metro seven hundred and a few nights a week, 184 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:58.480 and it was double oh seven, two nights a week for punk rock and 185 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:03.399 new wave. But I trow seven hundred was you know, good regular music 186 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:07.080 that you danced to, You actually danced to. You went on a dance 187 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:11.399 floor and found a girl your thought was pretty, and you danced next to 188 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:13.799 her until she saw you. And if she didn't give you that look, 189 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:18.360 you moved on. And if she did give you the look, you'd start 190 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:22.200 talking. Can I get you a drink? And he goes, he's laughing 191 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:26.240 like it's so not like that now he goes. People just DM they just 192 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:31.279 text. It's I know. I said, it's ruined you, guys. 193 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:35.600 You lost. You have no idea what you lost. Case you never saw 194 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:39.399 it. To go to the bar to get the girl. What did she 195 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:45.080 want? A mellow ball, Bay Breeze, a tequila Sunrise long all iced 196 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:50.080 tea. Those were crazy bitches. Don't get with those. But uh and 197 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:54.120 you got to get the number on the napkin. The napkin, and usually 198 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:58.200 you didn't bring a pen with you. It was usually ribbon lipstick and you 199 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:03.679 put it as safe spottle your body, but you're sweating, it's hot, 200 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:10.080 you're dancing. The last digit is smudged. You can't read it. You've 201 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:14.399 spend that next day, Sunday morning, trying to figure out what was that 202 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:19.279 last number, and you go through the whole rotary dial trying to find if 203 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:25.039 that girl is home, and the girl was dancing. I'll never forget. 204 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:29.759 I don't know how many years this ago. This is the eighties, Rose 205 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:34.559 Gonzales. I saw this girl dancing. I couldn't take my eyes off her. 206 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:37.720 And I'd never seen a girl dance to go to rock with you, 207 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:42.480 and she was dancing alone. And it's funny. I was listening to David 208 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:48.519 Spade and Dana Calrvey today about best opening lines, and they would you know, 209 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:52.679 they were making a joke about it. You know, there's plenty of 210 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:55.960 funny opening lines that don't work, but they're just funny. Guys laugh, 211 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:59.679 girls don't. But you know, this is my face. It's leaving in 212 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:00.879 five minutes. If you want to get on it. It's like stupid shit 213 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:04.559 like that. My name is David. I like me so far, stupid 214 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:08.960 shit. But I didn't know what to say to her, or she was 215 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:12.880 alone. Nobody was approaching her, and I said to Chico, Chico hated 216 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:17.440 these places because he didn't dance. I said, I can't leave it. 217 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:19.720 I getting this girl's name and number. I can't, I can't. And 218 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:23.720 I got next to her and I said, can I just watch you dance? 219 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:27.759 I've never seen a girl dance like you. And she was so nice. 220 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:30.839 Yeah, you can watch me dance. Oh god, thank you. 221 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:33.559 I don't care what you dance to. I just want to watch. I'm 222 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:38.079 not being creepy, just I want My name is aj you know, my 223 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:42.279 name's Rose, she said, Rose Gonzales. She ended up giving me her 224 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:47.720 number. I got the digit right the next day, and I think we 225 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:52.799 went on on two dates. Nothing ever materialized. She was really Latina. 226 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:57.200 It was a different cultural thing. But you know, when you hear Michael 227 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:03.799 Jackson's lyric al on the floor, there ain't nothing there but us. Girl, 228 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:07.720 when you dance, there's a magic that must be love. Just take 229 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:11.359 it slow, because we got so far to go, I'm like, and 230 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:18.480 you've got Cardi b singing about wet as pussy and all these Megan the Stallion 231 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:22.000 and Nicki Minaj, who I like. I like Nicki and Megan. I 232 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:27.599 even like Carti's music sometimes. But what the fuck has happened to music? 233 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:36.440 And how a guy's supposed to approach a girl. Something's missing and that romance. 234 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:37.720 I mean, Rocco could just shake his head and laugh. And that 235 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:44.799 was actually what we did. And that's how you found a girlfriend. You 236 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:48.920 and out there and found a girl like a fucking caveman. No you didn't 237 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:55.440 drag her back to your cave, but you went and founderr. You went 238 00:18:55.559 --> 00:19:00.160 up and down the clubs of Long Island or Manhattan to find a girl that 239 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:03.039 you thought was very pretty, that maybe you could have a relationship with. 240 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:11.559 That's the way it worked. And then I finally pulled into the hotel and 241 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:15.920 I got out of the car because George Michael was about to sing never Gonna 242 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:21.319 Dance Again, And I can't take that song that you know, that song 243 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:26.160 kills me. That's such a sad song. And when you think boy George 244 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:33.160 and George Michael were both singing about guys, they worked with every day. 245 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:41.359 It rips your heart out. They weren't singing about girls. They loved singing 246 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:48.160 about guys in the band. Just that's a killer. That's a killer. 247 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:55.559 That was the way it was back there. That's when radio had great songs. 248 00:19:55.559 --> 00:20:00.279 On a Friday night, you almost hated to go out because it was 249 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:04.440 so good Friday and Saturday nights. Man, everybody was listening to the same 250 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:10.039 station. As you drove up a certain highway two thirty one Deer Paul Avenue, 251 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:15.480 windows down, springtime, summertime, you hear the same song on every 252 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:22.160 car, just like we used to hear Howard Stern bellowing from every window in 253 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:27.000 traffic on the way to the city. Speaking to Howard, I got, 254 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:33.319 you know, just first of all, his interview with Joe Biden was so 255 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:40.480 ridiculous and so stupid, So asked Kissy. Obviously, he was given a 256 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:44.000 list of things he could ask him. He could not ask him about the 257 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:48.519 border, he couldn't ask him about inflation, he couldn't ask him about Ukraine. 258 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:55.440 And Howard, the biggest Jew on radio, super Jew, doesn't ask 259 00:20:55.480 --> 00:21:02.359 about Israel, and Hamas doesn't ask about all the anti anti Israeli people pro 260 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:07.279 Palestinians who are everywhere. I'm looking at TV right now. It's disgusting. 261 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:11.680 It's disgusting. Every college is being shut down. These kids are not graduating 262 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:18.119 where. These are kids that didn't get to go to prom because of COVID, 263 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.519 maybe lost a scholarship because of COVID. Now they can't have their graduation 264 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:26.319 because of these assholes who don't know where the Gaza strip is on the map. 265 00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:30.680 You think they're not gonna come out fucked up in society down the road 266 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:41.720 if they're not already anyhow. Speaking to Howard Stern, Jerry Seinfeld was on 267 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:48.240 Dana Carvey and David Spade show Superfly or Fly in the Wall, one of 268 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:55.160 the two, and he said something really profound, but then he had to 269 00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:57.200 walk it back because that's the way we live now. You have to walk 270 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:06.440 back everything you say. He apologized to Howard Stern because he said on the 271 00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:11.799 Spade and the Carvy show he didn't think he was funny. He said, 272 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:15.000 I really feel bad about what I said about my friend Howard Stern. In 273 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:19.240 a conversation with David Spade and Dana Carvey, talking about the glut of comedy 274 00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:26.000 podcasts, I meant to say he must feel surrounded, but I said out 275 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:30.400 flanked, which sounded terrible and insulting. And of course none of these little 276 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:36.039 shows or any threat to his giant show anyway. It was bad, and 277 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:38.279 I'm sorry, Howie, I still love you. Please forgive me no the 278 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:41.039 nother threat, because Howard Start makes his money. But let me tell you 279 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:47.799 something, serious is an awful trouble people who have stock and serious radio. 280 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:52.519 Is that even a thing. I'm not a market guy, but I'm sure 281 00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:59.640 it's a stock. They're not happy. There's no big numbers for Howard Stern 282 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:07.960 anymore. And the way this whole thing began was they were talking on Seinfeld 283 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:14.920 was talking the Spade and Carvey, and he said, the popularity of podcasts 284 00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:21.000 now are very big. He said, Howard Starting basically invented the format. 285 00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:26.119 But then Jerry said, but we're better than him now. He said, 286 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:32.640 how is interesting. Howard's a great interviewer, but comedy chops, I mean, 287 00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:38.200 can may speak candidly. And they said sure. He said, yeah, 288 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:41.480 they're all great, let's face it, but he's been out flanked. 289 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:47.640 I'm sorry, but Jerry said the first time was right. Howard has been 290 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:53.359 out flank. There are podcasts out there that are hysterical, namely Fly on 291 00:23:53.400 --> 00:24:02.240 the Wall, Superfly, SmartLess, Aim is a Bitch, that's your cup 292 00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:07.400 of tea. People aren't afraid to say, well, I'm in a different 293 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:12.319 category. There's a few shows I mentioned that are kiss has shows. Smartness 294 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:17.920 had to have the three presidents on which is the biggest the biggest blowjob of 295 00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:21.920 all time? And nobody asked an important question. It was a love fest, 296 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:26.519 and Biden said the least. And he just scratched his nose the whole 297 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:32.559 fucking show. But he said to the guys, to Spade and Carvey, 298 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:37.079 this is the best one on the air, you know, because you guys 299 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:41.839 play nice together. It's smooth, you're not jumping on each other. And 300 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:47.799 listen, I was there for Howard's during for years in that studio watching him 301 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:51.599 work, sitting right next to him. Well, no, Benji was next 302 00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:55.119 to me, then Howard. But I've told you how this operated, how 303 00:24:55.119 --> 00:25:02.920 this worked in the past. Fred Norris and either Jackie Martley or me or 304 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:07.119 Artie Lang was in that middle seat. Then there was Benji, who's a 305 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:12.400 brilliant comedy writer, and then Howard and Robin's in a whole other glassroom. 306 00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:19.000 There's a tray in the middle of this big table where all the desks converge, 307 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:27.359 and Fred and Jackie or Benji, the three of them just write jokes, 308 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:30.960 right questions. If he's on the phone somebody, they have a quick 309 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:37.599 quip, a comeback. Ninety percent of the stuff that comes out of Howard's 310 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:40.920 mouth that makes people crack up and almost get it. The car accidents in 311 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:45.480 the old days was from Fred Jackie, not Benji because he was new. 312 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:52.200 But Benji's great when it came to me and Artie, he kept on microphones 313 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:56.000 on which to me was an honor. I very rarely put a piece of 314 00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:59.480 paper in that trae because Fred and Benji was so fast. What was the 315 00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:04.240 use. And Howard had a camera that aimed down at the tray and the 316 00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:11.079 joke appeared on his computer screen. Not many people know that, and that's 317 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:15.039 why the show was so brilliant for years now. Of course, how It 318 00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:18.880 has a talent and still does have a talent to converse with people and speak 319 00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:22.880 with people in a way. He's great. He's great at getting people to 320 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:29.039 admit to things they don't want to admit to. But no, no, 321 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:34.440 he has been outflanked more. There are podcasts that are way more interesting and 322 00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:41.200 funny that are out there now than the Howard Stern Show. I love the 323 00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:48.559 Guy, but the he's been passed by. And lastly, Sam Rubin, 324 00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:56.400 great guy entertainment reporter. We shared the same manager for a while, the 325 00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:03.880 Great Howard the petis who passed away. And there was a time where before 326 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:08.880 TMZ hit, Howard had the idea of me and Sam doing a gossip show. 327 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:15.000 Sam being the nice guy, the red carpet guy, and me being 328 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:18.839 the guy that was out all night. You know, Sam's on the red 329 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:22.519 carpet and celebrities walked toward him, Celebrities see me and walk away from me, 330 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:27.400 that kind of thing. And it was tentatively called Sam and Bam. 331 00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:33.400 I was Bam obviously, and we shot a sizzle reel. It was funny, 332 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.079 We liked it. We tried to get it sold and it didn't work. 333 00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:42.200 But I always enjoyed Sam in the mornings when he had a movie review 334 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:47.359 or an interview with a celebrity, always cheerful and happy. Sixty four heart 335 00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:59.839 attack boom. It just sucks that that, frankly, it sucks. Another 336 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.880 good man is gone. That's all I can say to end this show. 337 00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:12.440 The older I get, the more people you just lose. And Sam was 338 00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:18.559 a good guy, good guy, all right, no crying. That's it. 339 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:22.079 That's it for your free show today. I'm out of talking. I'm 340 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:29.440 too emotional. But out of all that came a wonderful woman with my son 341 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:37.599 driving and telling him about what it was like in my day to find a 342 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:41.759 pretty girl. God knows what he'll do. I hope it's not a dick 343 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:47.920 pic. But if he takes after the old man in my work, I'm 344 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:52.680 aj Benza. That was your free show you'll probably get at sometimes Saturday or 345 00:28:52.759 --> 00:29:00.559 Sunday because I sprung this on Joey late. Here's the next pat shows to 346 00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:04.640 appear so late in the fact, he's probably well, he's working now for 347 00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:08.000 sure, and he won't go home through six am. So you'll get it 348 00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:12.240 this weekend, all right. In the meantime, hungry people you love, 349 00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:22.119 because it's over in a second. And that's if you're lucky. That's if 350 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:33.359 you're lucky, tucky soon, Thank you for listening. Fame as a Bitch 351 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:40.519 is an aj Benza Workhouse Connect production featuring the Endless Wisdom insightful commentary and sometimes 352 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:45.200 fucked up perspective of aj Benza executive producer Mike Agavino