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Derek Kwong. What do you want to talk about? Oh my goodness,
we got no shortage of subjects to tackle today. Let's leave it.
Well, there's one very big subject. Okay, Well, no shortages of
subjects within the very big subject. Oilers over the Canucks. Last night three
to two series tied it to game five Thursday at Rogers Arena. Like I
say, we've got a lot to talk about, Derek, do you want
to get right to the highlights right away? What do you think? Let's
do that because there are a lot of subjects, some of them and you
you really wanted to go hard at some members of the Knucks. So we'll
do that after the highlights, right, Yeah, okay with that, Yeah,
let's go. Let's go. Okay, rock and roll. The early
spotlight on Noah Julson in for the suspended Carson Sussi, and then there was
Calvin Pickard, thirty two year old journeyman in for Stuart Skinner. Midway through
the first period, Oilers on the park like Conor McDavid draws three Canucks right
side the Leon Dreich idle on nothing, Oilers in the home blue with the
orange and white trim. His eight second period Canucks attack Brock Bester rolling down
the left side, denied by the former Seattle Thunderbird Calvin Pickard. Two minutes
later, not to be odone Archer's Sea loss with back to back saves off
Darnell Nurse, the young Lafean once again sellid final minute of the middle stanza
Noah Julson, He's gonna step up to hammer Mattias Ekom that springs Ryan Nugent
Hopkins on the two on one, with McDavid keeping judding, starring just his
second of the playoffs. Two nothing home team. We go to the third
period, now Edmonton on the par play, but Archer Sheelaus like a modern
day Charlie Hodge, making save after save many in rapier like fashion. Moments
later, Canucks, with the heat, Connor Garland will grab the biscuit high
slot his shot off darn All Nurse and passed Pickard the Garlandian one, making
it a one goal hockey game, arguably the best Canuck of the night,
two to one. Five minutes left, Canucks again pressing hard, but the
Oilers get the puck out and Evander k Ain't in a race with Sea Loves
the Kannuck goaltender with speed, courage and they all poke check. Then with
the Knucks net empty, Les Patterson wins a face off and the Oilers in
rock Besser with the puck left side through a maze and in two two,
we're going to overtime. To Cody Joshua got credit for that goal. We're
going to overtime? Did he say that? Oh yeah, I don't know.
Dying seconds, Leon Dreich suttle in behind the Canucks goal, all the
way back to Evan Bouchard. He too threw a maze. That's what thirty
eight seconds left painful for the Caducks and their fans. That's your winner.
Oilers tie this series at two, three to two, Ebaton overt Vancouver next
game Thursday, back at Rogers Arena. For Evan Bouchard. You might want
to cover that guy in the late stages or in overtime with any playoff game.
That's a second game winning wreck. Yes, seven Bouchard, He's got
six points in the series. He's been great. They're top three guys,
don't he dry settle ten points in this Bouchard six, McDavid three. Those
are the top three guys in the NHL playoff scoring race and they are producing
big time in this series. Their top guys done have been their top shocking,
shocking, shocking, Okay, all sorts of meat. Post game and
let's start. Let's start with the head coach Rick Hackett post game, not
happy with all of this players. Yeah, we've been a resilient groupe all
year, but we need five or six guys to get going here. I
mean, it's the Salley Cup playoffs. That's some guys. I don't know
if they thought it was the playoffs. So we can't play to all the
guys. So we got to figure out quick. It's too too obviously,
it's a tough one. Evan he game to play. They wanted it more
early. The second goal at the end of the period was a killer.
Another couple of given mistakes and then the last goal. So I mean,
it's just can't do that five or six guys. He needs to get going.
So what are we talking about this? Well, we know who he's
talking about. First of all, a coach to say that after four games
in round two of the playoffs done, he is not good and talk it
right now, does not care about whose feelings he's hurting. These are the
playoffs round two. You can't go deep with a half a dozen guys being
passengers. Talkeett never took a shift off in his career. He was an
heart and soul guy. That's what he expects from this team. Who are
the past I don't hear any names here. I've gotten to the names.
You know who the names are. They're clear as clear as the blue Sky.
Petterson is obvious. Patterson is obviously one. You two are happy about
that? What do you mean by that? What do you You two got
Ragan on Petterson for months? This guy digs up audio on Petterson from months
ago, and we're gonna we're gonna run that Peterson. What's wrong with that?
What do you mean? What's wrong with it? What's wrong with Let's
get into You asked me for my You could talk all you want to mob
mckiv and heronic and we're talking about somebody. We just signed a deal,
an eight year deal, is going to be making eleven point six million dollars
a year, and he's in that five or six guys group, is one
hundred percent? He is. Here's what I want to say about Petterson.
If he's hurt, the team needs to announce it. If he is not
hurt, then it's not good. What do you mean announce it? Well,
they got to if they If he's hurt and he's playing banged up and
he's not one hundred percent, then let everybody know, Donnie, if there's
things like uh uh, if there's something that's affecting his stride where he can't
get to a loose pock. Maybe there is something. Maybe there isn't,
but it would be nice to know if there is, because they forget about
announcing it. Sit him if he's hurt, because this goes. If he's
not hurt, then he's got to be a difference maker, and it's not
good enough. His intensity, his will has got to be better, his
battle and compete has got to be better. All that stuff's got to be
better. If listen to you, here's what I here's what I think.
Like Connuck fans out there, you better get right now down on your knees
and start praying that this guy is, like Rick says, injured because it
hurting in some way. Because this goes way back. If he's not injured,
and you've just signed EP forty to an eight year deal that doesn't kick
in until next season eleven six per it's gonna make Louis Erickson look like a
bargain like honestly that you know the I whatever happened, look the look they're
tied to too. The series is still very winnable and you know, going
forty, maybe seeing them knock off the Stars or the Avalanche the Western Final,
but they're getting this far without them, like, you better pray if
you're a conduct fan er, if you're a member of the Knock organization,
that something's wrong with him, you know, physically, because this thing is
going to lack. It's seemingly gonna last forever, and they're gonna be talking
buyouts. I want to run this clip with Rick Tockett as well, because
this is him talking about Elias Patterson. He's gonna get there, but he's
gonna talk first of all about the power play, which Elias Patterson is a
part of. It was zero for three last night, Rick, you had
the stat of the series three for twelve, Yes, three for twelve,
so oh for three last night, and that included a lethargic And he'll he'll
tell you this, Ric Tokic will tell you this lethargic four minute power play
in the first period. Maybe it should have been a five minute power play.
The cane hit on Tyler Mars, which drew blood. So he's gonna
talk about that, Rick Tockett, and then he'll get to Elias Patterson.
It just wasn't good, not good enough. They know it. I didn't
think they worked hard to mismanage the puck. It's a four minute power play.
I don't know. I think the second you're gonna had more, had
some shots, but it's just not good enough. They know it. I
mean, you know, you can't. You cannot. You have to have
a work ethic and you have to hold pucks. I didn't think we did.
You know, the PDA want to keep face off on the eventual goal
that you gut scored late. But you would think that if they're gonna split
up their lines and he's getting third line matchups, you need to find a
way to win that battle. How tough has it been there? Not getting
a lot? Like I said, there's five or six guys he's you know,
he yeah, we need we got He's got to get going. Yeah.
I don't know what else to say. The strange part about last night
and Elias Petterson is taking it on social media. Yeah, sure, traditional
media. This show, every show you listen to, he's he's hearing a
lot about this. His numbers weren't bad last night. He played he played
over twenty minutes uh two blocks, three hits, two shots, six shot
attempts, and there were a couple of shifts where he looked pretty good.
There was one of the second period that we talked about during our postgame show
last night where he looked really good and then you know, fell off the
cliff from there. But the other thing that is is there's just so much.
The other thing that's alarming for Connect fans is that they don't he's forty
five percent on faceoffs, right, He's not. He's not doing that either,
wreck, No, he's not. And here's my problem. The other
one is why is he not producing on the power play? If you're a
skill guy? Okay, Look, if it's it's tough to score five on
five in the playoffs, if you're a skill guy like him, he's got
to take advantage of the time and space in the power play. He's got
one goal. It was on the power play a couple of games ago at
home, and and that's it. Donny. There goes your excuse about the
linemates he plays with. I know because he's on the power play. So
he's not producing on the power play either. Okay, So I'm gonna bring
up the line mates. You brought it up. Now, give me a
couple of seconds here. At least give the guy one winger who's got offensive
potential. Mckayv Hoglander, Lafferty and Carlson have combined for one point in the
playoffs between them. That's who he's got his wingers. Last night, in
the second period, we're watching the game. You you said, oh,
what a great play by Peterson, and when he dished it off to a
winger and the play died on the wingers stick. He's a skilled centerman.
He needs skilled wingers. And what's happening with these wingers? Let me finish,
what's happening with these wingers? The play is dying on their stick.
That is a big time table. Who goes there? So you're gonna give
a guy eleven point six million dollars? Question, You're gonna give a guy
eleven point six million dollars and then you're gonna say, hey, we're giving
your fourth liners as wingers. That's not acceptable either, doll You haven't asked
the question who goes there? Does Besser go there? Put Garland with him?
You know? So you break up Garland and Joshua, Sure, you
break up, but at least, look, Miller's got best. Miller's got
best or a forty goal scorer. Well, what last night on his right
side was Lafferty Lafferty is a great fourth line player. He is. Throughout
his career he's been a fourth liner, but now you expect him to play
with Peterson, a skilled So how do you how do you how do you
explain the lack of production, the lack of goals, because this goes way
back back to the regular season. What is it one goal in twenty three
games? How do you explain the lack of production on the power play when
he's with some pretty good players and he's got time and space, he's got
time in space and the power play. That's a concern. But you know,
also, if he's healthy, his intensity level has to go up.
His compete battle level is not there unless he's hurts. That brings the question
and I'll give Ryan Henderson kudos here, and he brings it up all the
time that if he is hurt, why and this goes way back, these
poor numbers go way back. Why was he he arrested during the regular season?
Great question. You go to Winnipeg for that second to last game,
and you left Besser at home because Besser was banged up, but you didn't
leave Patterson at home if he wasn't one hundred percent Why did you take him
to Winnipeg? Why? A mean nothing game? A mean nothing game.
Okay, let's run this clip that I believe you tweeted out. Ryan,
How are you? By the way? Everything good? We make a little
bit over in this segment. Okay, let's run this clip that you tweeted
out. It's from January twenty four, and this just goes to show how
far back the situation with the Elias Petterson goes. I can't remember who they
were playing this night, but this is Rick Tackett postgame talking about Eleas Petterson
more than a month before he signed his deal. Yeah, yeah, you
know, we haven't liked this game in the last three or four games.
We gotta get him going. What in particular do you think he needs to
do more? I think he's got to skate. He's got to start skating
a little bit. I think he's I think he's good with the moves sometimes,
but I think when you have speed to make those moves, that's when
he's at his best. So yeah, we got to you know, we'll
get him going late January. He signs his deal in early March, eight
years eleven six, and again they're in a positive suit I think it's a
positive situation. Tied to to not back. Could you imagine if he could
get his act together? The fact that Vancouver Connuction tied two two with the
Orders, a team many predicted when the Stanley Cup, by the way,
before the season began. They're tied to to best of three. They got
home ice. Every game's been a one goal game and all that, and
they got five to six passengers every night. Wow. Okay, let's get
to our poll question and has to do with the the subject djure. Yeah,
I mean the Cannucks and Oilers playoff series is the focus here, but
in particular beyond that, what's happening with Elias Petterson Waddling dog pole question?
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by the way, three thirty in the morning. I couldn't get to
sleep. I got up at three thirty two, but I didn't tweet you
know this, what are you doing up at three thirty in the morning.
I couldn't sleep, so you know what, I worked, Yeah, sort
of, and you got in trial. You got a lot of what were
you doing at three thirty? I had to go with the Washington But I
mean, I'm not tweeting at three thirty in the morning. Here's the question.
Best option for Petterson go do you play with them? But the one
that you got there at press box at the bottom? Do you put them
with Lindholm, holk Lander, Podkolson, Michaev Lafferty. What's winning right now
is I put him on the wing with uh Lindholm. But then the Canucks
center ice position takes a beating. If you put those two together, Suitor,
it should be your third line center. He's a winger, but that
line is arguably their best line so far in the postseason, Miller, Besser
and Suitor. So I don't think you want to mess with that. And
let's go back to the regular season and how many times we did shows talking
about how effective that Blueger line was with Garland and Joshua, So do you
go back with that and try Petterson on the wing? With with Lenholm or
Lindholm on the wing with Petterson. A lot of people are forty three percent
saying yes, they're agreeing with you. Well, the other interesting, Well,
there's everything's interesting right now when it comes to this subject. But thirty
six make that rounded up, thirty seven percent saying how about Peterson with Hoglander
and Pitt Colson. So those two leaving the black a squad, leaving the
press box Hoglander and Pitt Colson and moving on the line with with Petterson.
A lot of people think that might not be a bad idea. Pod Colson
had two assists in eighteen games in Vancouver. He goes to the Miners and
in the playoffs he had one assist in three games against Colorado. How is
he going to solve a scoring winger issue for Petterson? How is pod Colson
going to Yay, I'm going to go to the other side. Hoglander got
twenty four goals. Yeah, in the regular season. I don't If hog
Lander can do what he was doing in the regular season, that'd be great,
But how does pod Colson like? I don't think that's the issue.
The issue is is he is he an improvement or are those two in improvement
or over last night. What Petterson is playing with right now? There's more
edge there with Hoglander and put Coles than I think. And michayvs got zeros
across the board and he's minus four and I but if you're making, you're
gonna be making eleven point six million dollars a year right now at the very
least you get produced. Could not put the puck in the ocean from a
ferry, and you know it. You know it. He keeps shooting right
at the goaltender. That's not the scoring winger answer. Uh for Hoglander,
it's not done for Petterson. For Petterson, and Michayv's got zeros across the
board zeros. Okay, but you're but you and a lot of people say,
how about you? Said Garland on his way? I would love to
see Garland, So what about Patterson? And I didn't put this option in
there, which we had, you know, room for about ten of them.
Uh. But but but maybe him between Garland and Joshua Well, and
Joshua has been great in the playoffs, Maybe you know, go throw him
out there with them. I mean something to give him some wingers with some
offensive potential. I'm just listening to I know, we gotta get going,
you know, maybe talk. It feels he doesn't belong with Garland and Josh
Garland was their best player last night arguably right well, him and joshuall both
last night had really good games and Lyndham's been very effective there on. At
the end of the game, we're going to talk about the last shift as
well, well, the shift that ended up with bouch Shard scoring the winning
goal. Okay, here's what's coming up on the show. Is it just
me d tmz coming up in the eleven o'clock hour. Former Cannock head coach.
He knows a thing or two about Elias Patterson and this roster. Bruce
Boudreau, now with the NHL Network, will join us just after eleven.
Big ride the Gruter guy and up next. He's played for both. He
played for both teams, both the Oilers and Kannucks. Think a lot of
people forget that. Jeff Cortnell played with the Edmonton Oilers. He also played
for the Knucks part of the ninety fourth so good of the ninety four playoffs.
As the Knucks got to that ninety four Stanley Cup Final against the Rangers.
Jeff Cortnell's going to join us next. Thanks so much for tuning in,
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A. Jeff Cortnell's going to join us now. Former Canucks winger, former
Oilers winger, part of the Oilers Stanley Cup winning nineteen eighty eight Gretzky's last
season. Yes. It added to nineteen points in twenty four games for Jeff
during the Canucks run to the ninety fourth down A Cup Final over one thousand
NHL games. One of the great undrafted players in NHL history, The pride
of Victoria. Jeff Courtnell joining us now. Jeff, longtime, no talk
to you. How are you, sir? Good? Very very cocky?
Yeah? Absolutely uh. Oilers over the Canucks three to last night. A
couple of your former teams, everybody, it seemed, picked the Oilers to
win this series. Did you expect the Cannucks to be this competitive against McDavid
and Company. Yeah, I think, you know, obviously the team has
really had an amazing season. I think, you know, the coaching staff
have done such a great job with preparing them for the playoffs. They're a
young team and I think obviously they've overachieved this year, but they keep getting
better and they're gaining confidence, and I think it really shows in this series.
Which Vancouver players have stuck out for you this season, Jeff Well,
definitely, you know, I mean Romic, I mean with with Hughes has
been amazing. I think that you know, him losing tent of I think
that was probably one of the biggest mistakes the team has made letting him go,
So, you know, I think for Quinn it was tough for him
for a couple of years until he got Ronick and now I think that they're
a great, you know pair. And then I think j T. Millers,
as far as I'm concerned, probably the heart and soul of the team
definitely comes to play, wants to win every game, to go to Joshua
Gararland. I think that that line, whoever they've been with this year,
they've come to, you know, be one of the top lines in the
league. As far as competing, and I think to go to Joshua's you
know, really starting to become a really good power forward. Hey, Jeff,
A lot of heat on Petterson these days. He's only got one goal
in the playoffs so far. What are you seeing in his play right now?
Well, I think the playoffs is a much different game than regular season.
Everything happens quicker. It's more intense, there's more physical play, and
confidence is everything. And I think you saw his reaction when he missed that
empty and hat goal in the first game against Nashville, and I think that's
the way he's played since then, and it's unfortunate. But you know,
if I could talk to him, I'd tell him, you know, start
to see the great plays, the great goals and great things that you've done
throughout your career and get back to work and get that confidence back. You
know, you can see even last night a couple of times he's he's passing
the puck when he's to shoot it and then shooting it when he has more
time, And that's all confidence. But like I said, in the playoffs,
you know, everything happens a lot quicker, and it's a it's a
tough, tough battle in the playoffs, Jeff. Last night, Rick Talcketts
said he had too many passengers, five to six to seven. It's tough
to win at this time of the year with, as the coach said,
so many guys being passengers. You can't have any I think that, you
know, you look at our ninety four team. I mean we were they
predicted a Calgary to win the Cup that year and we were down three to
one and came back and beat them. And there is no way we would
have gone as far as we did with that team if everybody wasn't, you
know, given their best and battling every night and showing up. And I
mean it took all different contributions from different players in different games throughout the playoffs,
and I think that's why we were successful. Does this kind of drive
I guess, you know, a series and a half in, Does it
remind you or bring back memories of ninety four for you, Jeff Well,
I mean, you know, I think obviously the city everybody's excited like they
were back then in ninety four, which is great to see. Mean,
it's exciting hockey. I mean they've played I think, you know, the
Nashville series, they played great I think that they played above and beyond what
anyone thought they would do without Demco, and I think the future for the
Canucks is pretty exciting. Do you remember playing against Rick Talket? What was
he like to play against that? What do you think? What do you
think of the job he's doing as a head coach? Oh, he's well,
he's done a phenomenal job. And yeah, I played against him.
I can remember. You know, he was a tough guy to play against.
And I joked with him last time he and I were together. I
said, yeah, I remember in Washington we had a huge robber with Philly
and Rick was probably one of the toughest guys in the league. And you
know, I'd faked to dump it into on Hextall and shot it on the
net from just outside center, and he went behind the net to get the
puck, but it went in the net and he chased me, hext I'll
chase me with the puck and shot it at me and he got kicked out
of the game. And I said to yeah, next face off. He
came out there and you slashed me in the back of the leg so hard.
I swear to god, I had bringing cramps in my cast for two
weeks. How would you have done if Hextall kaya? Oh god, yeah,
no he I wasn't worried about that, but he shot it at me.
He just about hit me in the head, so he got kicked out
of the game. It was quite actually, because Hextall used to cheat before.
Every time Company would dump it in, he would cheat behind the net.
So my thought was, next time I play against him and I'm going
to shoot it in on the power play, I'm going to shoot it on
net. And it worked. How would you compare the hockey then to what
you see now? Jeff, Well, I think that, you know,
everyone asked me that, and I said, man, I wish I could
play now. I mean there's no hooking, no holding, and no one
trying to beat the crap out of the every ship. But you know,
I think that for the speed guys and the guys who can skate, it's
a great game. I think it's a fast game. I think it's the
playoffs this year is very exciting. Teams are all very evenly matched throughout the
league in the playoffs, and I think, you know, the biggest difference
back then when I when I played, you know, even in two thousand
when I'm retired, is a pretty physical mass the game compared to today.
For people who don't know, Jeff, what are you up to these days?
You know, not too much, just managing all my stuff and working
on all our mental health stuff for the Courtnell Society and you know, just
trying to stay fit and healthy. Well can you tell us about again for
people who don't know about the Cardinal Society, Well, the Courtnell Society,
what's happened is we built in you know, two thousand and four and five,
we had a Courtineal Celebrity Classic golf tournament. We raised a lot of
money. We built the Archie Courtnel Memorial Center, our emergency mental health center
in the Jubilee Hospital for people that are suicidal or going through tough times,
and that was very successful. And then the next golf tournament we had,
we raised the money for the Mental Health Ward in the Jubilee Hospital. So
right now people can go from the Archie Courtinal Center and then into the Mental
Health Ward and the Jubilee. So from that we've had a lot of families
and a lot of people that have continued to donate money to us. So
we formed the Archie or the Courtinal Society, and we raise money and we
continue to help grassroots organizations raise awareness and also get funding and help in general
in the community because there's just so much work to do. Yeah, and
for people who don't know Archie, your late father and his story is well
documented. Thanks so much for this, Jeffery, really appreciate it. You're
in your sixties. Next time you visit us, could you please lose some
hair just to make me feel a little bit better? Work on that again
today. Okay, nice, right to the what you like it or not?
Well, at least you have to get a cut, Thanks Jeff,
and grow grass on a busy street. You guys there you call that's the
line I'm going to use. Thanks Jeff, appreciate it all the best.
Yeah, take care you bet Jeff Cortnell, former vankru of a Cock,
former Ebanson eiler, you can help him get a cup. Back in nineteen
eighty eight, he makes that point about Elias Patterson early in the Nashville series,
missing that wide open net right side at Rogers Arena. His body language
after that, maybe saying it all when it comes to Eleas Peedterson right now,
there's confidence issue there, but the work ethics. Butut you got to
be there as well, Donnie, and you got to move your feet as
well. All right, pull question. We'll update it to next and talk
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Eddie Murphy. He was so good. It was Beverly Hills cop Yeah,
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Judge Ryold? Jeff Jeff Rhinboldt. He used to be a coach BC lines
coach, former Winnipeg coach. Great guy. Remember he wasn't in Beverly Hills
coup. He used to bring a Harley to the lines practices at BC place.
What we did with the with a big blue bombers. Ryan Bolt had
a Harley and he used to bring it to practice. Yeah, he was
a great coach. We all love Jeff. What did Yeah? Was he
in the Eagles? No? No? Can we get to the pole?
Go? Okay? This is Taylor's poll of three thirty in the morning last
night in the hotel room. I just can't believe you did question if I
said to what you were, I gotta clarify. I have issues sleeping at
three thirty in the morning. I'm doing something else. I always worry about
tweet this out. I have enough, you know, at my age,
I have enough problems putting words together. I was worried when I woke up
this morning. Did I get anything like spelling mistakes? Why are you up
at three thirty. Okay, I couldn't sleep. That's why you go outside
for a walk. I did fresh air. I didn't have my melatonin.
Right, look at this, Look what's leading forty three percent? What's the
best option for Peterson has put them with Lindholm and a very interesting press box
has got nineteen and where are we thirty four hundred votes? Oh boy,
it's hopping and bopping and it's not stopping. You're right, A lot of
people are talking and I haven't got any specific examples here because there's so many,
but talking about what about letting them play with on the first line with
Miller and Besser. You know there's a lot of line. Put the lot
of line back. But they've tried the Latto line at various times in the
playoffs. It's not working. It's not clicking. And then you take us
so much away from lines two and three. It's they're in a tough spot.
They need him to get going. Look, if he's injured, he's
injured. If he's not, he's not. But they got to get him
going. Bottom line, Donny, if he's injured, no, no,
no, no, he can't just dismiss it. If he's injured, sit
him well, right, thank you, or there's a knot. We're in
round two of the playoffs. Not a lot of guys are one hundred percent.
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on the Oilers game winning goal last night, just looked like it was headed
to overtime. You know, the Canucks storming back after falling down to nothing.
But here it is, this is dry Suttle who was just so effective
on this play against the puck in behind the net. And the Canucks are
watching here. Would you would you agree with that? I would. They're
collapsing in which you see, you see a lot of but a lot of
watching not moving their feet. It's not just Petterson not moving his feet for
the Cannucks in this particular case anyway. And Bouchard gets his second game winner
of the series, right, yeah, absolutely, And you know J T.
Miller I give him. I give him a lot of respect, a
lot of honesty from him in the post game. He took that last goal
hard. That's what a leader does. He didn't pass the back. He
said he owned it, and a lot of great players do that when they
own it. He he blew the up. Well, we'll see it again
if you look early on here, number nine and you're lucky, number programmed.
I think it's eck Holm at the point and JT. Miller leaves the
zone and there to keep it in you have to own you never leave the
zone until the puck is one hundred percent, you know. Yeah, they
teach you minor hockey. Look, he had the decision to go back.
It creates odd man rushes when you leave the zone and they keep it in.
But you know what, there's two wingers, Bester and Miller, and
that puck got to the point Miller's Miller is one of the forwards up up
front, exactly exactly and he and then he got the puck through amazing players.
The other factor there that was interesting, Tyler Myers didn't have a whole
lot of ice time. Yes, it was heronic and the door off.
I think I've got that right. Yes, that we're out there at the
end. I think normally you would see Tyler Myers out out there as as
the right hander, and that wasn't the case there. And that goes back
to the Cane high sticking in the first period. I would think it would
anyway, boy, we thought right there. And by the way, I
can report this morning that the Department of Player Safety there will be nothing coming
for Evander Kine. I know Canuck fans were on Twitter last night hoping that
Cain would get something here, but I've been told this morning Kane will not
get a fine. Caine will not be suspended. There is nothing coming from
for Caine from the Department of Player Safety today, nothing zero z elch non.
Just I'm just laughing because and it's not funny because Tyler Myers has heard
here like Evander Kaine arguing after like how could you wow? But how to
do? Because that's the way the way you're wired talking. Wanted a five
minute penalty here. Somebody woke Cane up last night. He was much more
engaged. He has not been good in this series physically. You saw the
big hit on Ironic on the game winning goal in the last minute. Somebody
woke Cane up last night. He was much more engaged than thee. You
talked about how accountable JT. Miller was after the game after that goal was
scored. Here is number nine J T. Miller of the Vancouver Cannocks post
game. Yeah, that's tough, fought back. You know, I didn't.
I gotta find that shooting Liane there. So it's tell me, does
a mindset change when you get the tow two goal? Uh and thinking just
trying to get the game total time? Are you guys look too passive?
Do you think in that last no I got I had a rush chance before
that, I uh it sent the wrong spot in the D zone and then
didn't block the shot, so a breakdown and ended up in then it.
I went to power play and you talked this morning about how you guys needed
to be better on entries. I'm just gonna be honest with you. I'm
tired of talking about it. I don't It's gonna tell you the same thing.
Are you more of something to finish here? The way you guys played,
because it seemed like you played pretty well in the second and third.
I mean, I'm pretty upset with myself at the moment. That was a
pretty big player at the end of the game there that past should have never
got to Blue Sharden certainly shouldn't get past me, so Hardy can't see anything.
Hats off to him. I mean he had missed, he made mistakes
on that last shift, met the media afterwards and was accountable. You talked
about it. That's what a leader does. Yep. Absolutely, and you
know for him to stand up, he was not happy, don I mean
they should have been going overtime. We were watching the game together, everybody,
and we were getting ready for overtime and all of a sudden, they
bring the puck down thirty nine seconds later and they tie it up. I
know we're running out of time, but I want to run the Rick Tacket
clip. We'll do that on our next open segment. He comes up with
the phrase pause hockey. He's come up with a lot of interesting phrases that
I haven't heard before. Learning lesson is one of them that he uses a
lot. Last night, it was pause hockey. We'll do that later.
You know, all this doom and gloom on this show so far, and
it's not just us. You see it on social media on Twitter, other
programs. I think there's other sports shows in uh Vancouver. I think,
not really sure with all this deal. They're tied to too. They're tied
to two and and Game five takes place Thursday. And by the way,
I should mention this, that Game six Saturday, no matter what. But
we will not have a playoff postgame show on Thursday. That's because we're gonna
be at the BC Sports Hall of Fame in for youduction We're gonna be there
for you tomorrow Thursday, but we will have a show in the morning.
Dawny Dolly the team on check in the meantime, up next Big Ride.
Have you finished looking up Glenn Fry and what he's done in the movies?
There was another show he was in Hotel California. I closed it nine from
Outer Space. I don't have it. I don't have it. Well,
I never knew Glenn Fry did movies like why it's not like you did twenty
of them. He's known for singing Ryan not acting. Yeah, but right
around the time that the Eagles took their pause he did. Every once in
a while, though, you'll see an actor in the background of a movie
that you recognize from somewhere else. And maybe the best example of that for
me is like Out of Nowhere Chris Isaac, remember Big in the eighties and
nineties? Whatever, Yeah, wicked, great song, great song. He's
in Silence of the Lamps as a police officer. Well, what about Dwight
Yoakum. But he's he's he was more than a bit, more than a
bit player, right, Dwight Yoakam? What's that he's the preacher for Christmas?
Is oh, really good. He's on a lot of shows, but
he he's like front and center. He's like oftentimes one of the one of
the lead actors. But I'm talking like in the background. I know that
guy Glenn Fry in seven episodes of a show called South of Sunset mm hmm
in ninety three was he wasn't in Miami Vice. He was in one episode
of Miami Ice. Let's take a break or the sun might set on this
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just for a couple of minutes. Jo. It was something about jud Reinbold.
No, I got nothing, but it was conferred today. Netflix taking
over NFL Christmas Day games come on and now it's earlier this morning. They
tweeted it out. You can't spell Netflix without NFL. Oh that's good,
get it Netflix your home to watch the NFL's see this is the stupid thing.
Oh no, this one makes sense. Twenty twenty four. But no,
the NFL the season is so weird because the next year will be the
twenty twenty fourth season. But the Super Bowls in twenty twenty five. I
don't know why they don't do I know, I know, I know,
I know, just called the twenty four to twenty fives. I know,
I don't get there. Twenty twenty four Super Bowl champions are the bla blah
blah. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense any twenty three twenty four,
I know. So so Netflix is going to have all the games, the
two games this year. Then they're going to have part of the games for
the next two years. In other words, they'll there'll be another game somewhere
else. These are gonna be the games for this year. The NFL schedule
is being released at five o'clock tonight, but we some of it is leaking
out in dribs and drabs, including the slate of Christmas Day games. So
here it is here. Ravens, Texans, pass Chiefs, Steelers. The
Chiefs will be the twenty four Super Bowl champions. Yes, so Mahomes versus
C. J. Stroud, that's kind of The Texans are this year's Detroit
Lions. Last year, coming to the season, Lions a lot of hype.
You know, they were kind of the newer thing on the block that
were you know, still still are still are still are, but now it's
starting the shines coming off a little bit. It's kind of been a few
years now where they've been back into prominence. I don't think so the Texans
are replaced them. Like the hype around the Texas, I will see.
I'm a uniform guy and the Texas have changed their uniform still still yeah,
really bad and that is a bad uniform matchup Ravens in Texas. Yeah,
I guess the players of the field now O. You are right though,
although the Texans red uniforms, I don't mind. It just hasn't done it
for You're right. The other game Chiefs Steelers from homes versus Russell Wilson most
likely steel Steelers quarterback Russell Wilson. Yeah, I mean they've got other candidates,
didn't they draft a kid high in this year's draft, But Russell Wilson
is the odds on favorite to be the Steelers quarterback. Even though there's competition
there in the Steelers quarterback room, it'll be more than likely Russell Wilson.
They are making it tough. Now, we got to go to Netflix.
Justin fields too, just a field, just a fields. Let me show
them me. Hold on, I know where you are. You're dismissing me
either, Yeah, because Justin Fields and Wilson is the Edge has the edge
is the Edge has the edge on Justin Fields. That might be a bit
of a battle, but the Edge plays guitar. He does, he does.
Okay, Rick, I didn't mean to interrupt you, but look at
this, because I know where you were going. This is where I'm going.
Look at this. This is for the States. Okay. If you
wanted to watch every single NFL game for twenty twenty four, you want to
watch every game, you're die hard. It'll cost you nine hundred and eighty
six dollars season tickets. YouTube TV is seventy two bucks for the year.
ESPN plus is ten ninety nine, Peacock five ninety nine, Prime eight ninety
nine, Netflix six ninety nine. That's crazy, Well you have to be.
There's no way that happens, because you'd have to be unemployed to watch,
really rich, but to watch all those games streaming now, Netflix,
this Apple stuff? What happened to you? You can't figure out? I'm
not doing it. I'm not I'm not flip flopping. I want to say
it on my couch and I want one channel to go to. That's it.
We grew up. We knew Hockey Night in Canada CBC. We knew
the Canucks Game of the Week on BC TV with Big Long John John.
No John m keechey was another show, Big John Long John mckechee. We
we knew there was one or two channels that way. You know what his
nickname is Long John Long John mcgeechee. There, you know what I'm doing.
Mckeecher, good friend keach. Yeah, long We used to call him
long John mckechee. But listen, uh because of that, not because of
that, but just that was the nickname. Listen, I didn't hear that
happened, Donnie. What happened to one or two channels? Long job?
Now mckechy is gonna text me listen, what happened to one or two channels?
This is too much. I'm not doing this. I'm not gonna spend
this money and I'm not gonna spend I'm not gonna spend an hour looking for
games. It was, you know what, forget it. As things progress,
and you know, we we go through time, you think things are
gonna get but this is a mess. You know, it's interesting though,
it's actually way easier for us as Canadians because with TSN, the TSN and
CTV deal, right, you get we get to watch way more games because
we're out of an NFL market than you do if you're in an NFL market
because of blackouts, et cetera. But also because with them having the rights
like TSN airs the games on Prime, right, we don't watch the games
on Amazon up here in Canada. They do down there, but up here
we get to just watch them on TSN. The same might happen with Netflix.
I don't know. We're gonna have to see on that. But the
bottom line is the reason this is happening is money. And the reason it
can happen with this league is because you know what that is demand. That's
why that's a crazy amount of money. A lot of people are gonna pay
that crazy amount of money because they're work for the NFL. The NFL and
college football for the most part are teflon in the United States and they can
do whatever they want. They could put their games on when whatever data they
want, whatever service they want, and people are gonna consume. Let me
ask you this, Rick, if this was hockey, would you feel differently.
I know I wouldn't. The Canucks better be on one station for me.
Well, if you start next, d you start? If they start
doing what the white Caps are doing, then they're gonna lose me next.
No they won't. Yeah, they won't. Right, I'm not flopping.
I'm not buying something to watch the Canucks. I already paid the CSN sports
Net. It's a ridiculous price. That's it. I need to sit in
front of my television, put the Canucks on. No wires, no Apple
stuff, crappy stuff. I need one channel. Long John's no long John.
Well, I miss mkichee, but I need one channel for the Canucks.
I'm not gonna do it. I agree with you, but I still
don't. I don't believe you when you say you won't watch. I'm not
going to order and I'm not going to pay to watch the Canucks. Don't
Amazon next year for hockey on Monday nights and there you go, come and
I won't be there. Well, you can't do the show Tuesday, our
show. No, I'll We'll get somebody to do some drawing the sum up
the game. I'll watch the highlights. That's what I can do. Coming
up next. Former Canucks head coach and NHL network analyst Bruce Boudro on the
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by former Canucks head coach Bruce Boudreau, the eight Adams Award winner now working
with the NHL Network and the wake of the Canucks three to two loss to
the Oilers last night, tying the series at two. Bruce, Thanks for
doing this, sir. How are you? I'm doing good. Thanks.
What's allowing the Canucks your former team to stick with the favored Oilers right now
even though they lost last night? Well, I think they're playing really good.
I mean, they're getting great goaltending, great defense, and they're scoring
really timely goals. But they're they're they're just they're being able to shut down
teams. That and all the teams are playing shut down teams when they want
them, getting really timely goals when they need to. And they've got a
belief that they can win all the games. And and that just shows.
Every time they're down, whether it was the Nashville game getting down or Edmonton
or whatever, they keep coming back. There's no quit in that group.
They're they're doing extremely well. Yeah, and people forget they were down to
nothing that their period last night did come back even though they lost Meyers Zadoroff
Cole Sussi, how much of a difference has that big, big, large,
mean skillful defense meant to the Canucks frus Well, I think it means
a lot. I mean, just look at all the teams that end up,
starting with Tampa Bay when they won in the in the finals. The
first year their defense was big, and the second year they had big,
strong defense because you know, the referees aren't calling anywhere near as much of
the interference in front or the cross checking in front as they do in the
regular season. And then you go to Montreal. The reason they made the
finals is their defense was huge. And you look at last year's Vegas team,
the defense is huge. It's tough to manufacture space there anymore. And
I mean it's so when you've got a big, strong defense like the Canucks
have right now, it is hard to get to the front of the net
now. And taking nothing away from Sea Loss, I think he's been incredibly
good, but I mean it makes it an awful lot easier for the goalie
when you're only facing the one shot and for the most part, not the
second and third. I believe you were in the organization still when arcter Sea
Loofs got drafted. Did he make an impression on you back then? Did
do you know much about him? Well, you know what, I didn't
know much. The first year he was the third goalie in Abbotsford and from
what I recall, he didn't play any games. And then in about February
he went to tarro Vie in the East Coastlely just to get some time going.
But Ian Clark has always raved about him, said he's going to be
really good, and we had him a training camp for a couple of games
or at least one one game the next year, and then he went back
down to Abbotsford and he was called up after I was gone for a couple
of games at the end of that year. But no, Ian Clark raved
about him, big goalie. And then he and he you know, was
the MVP of the World Championships, which I think is really done well for
him to being in this situation that he's in right now. You know,
I mean, the pressure sometimes for the World Championships for your country is just
as much as being in the Stanley Cup finals. If you're a foreigner.
Hey, Bruce said, as you well know, you've in this City a
lot of heat on Peterson right now. One goal in the playoffs, that
is it's just what are you seeing? What's happening with him? There's a
ton of heat on him right now. Yeah, you know what, And
when the great players aren't scoring, they always get the they always get the
heat. And I really wish I knew. I haven't obviously talked to him
or anything, but his body language looks like he's lost a little bit of
confidence, that's for sure, in himself, and whether the team has lost
a little bit of confidence in him. But you know, I mean,
if he was scoring at even half the pace that he normally would be at,
he the difference would have been maybe one goal, and one goal is
all they needed in two of the four games that they lost to to be
successful. So I'm sure it's weighing hard on him. If I know Pd,
he wants, he wants the pressure, he wants to be the best,
and when things aren't working well, you know, like I mean,
he'd probably take it a lot upon himself. But you know, in his
defense a little bit, he's not you know, you can't tear up the
JT. Miller Besser. She has a suitor line because they're playing great.
And you can't take away the Garland Lindholm Joshua line because they're playing great.
So I mean Pete quite frankly McKay has got what one goal in his last
sixty games. Yeah, and you know, and Lafferty played his offside on
the on the the other line, So I mean it's you know, sometimes
you're caught in the middle. But I think Pete's the kind of guy that
believes, you know, if he's going then he makes everybody else around him
better. I mean, I like to see him smile. So I hope
he scores a goal or two in the next game. But I'm sure he's
feeling a little bit of pressure. Rick talking wasn't happy last night, Bruce.
He said, we had five to six to seven passengers. You can't
go deep in the playoffs, Bruce, with that many passengers. When the
coach says something like that, no, you can't. I mean, but
the coach would know. I mean, he watches them play all year long.
He knows what they're when they're bringing their best, and he knows when
they're not bringing their best. So I mean, obviously he spotted those number
of players that he thought weren't as good as they normally were, and he
called them out. You know, it's happened in the playoffs this year.
And sometimes you don't need to use names. I mean, you look around
the room and you say that if you say it two of them or even
in the in the media, and they know, uh, each player knows
if he was good or bad. And I don't think they're saying they're they're
out there saying, is he talking about me? And they know they know.
So sometimes you don't have to use a guy by name. You don't
have to to say this guy's bad, that guy's bad. You just say
it like that and then everybody, the ones that are at fault, No,
they've got to be better. I don't know who you like in the
East, Bruce, but can you envision Carolina coming back to coming back from
a three to zero deficit to knock off the Rangers they've won their last two?
Yeah, you know what, I can envision them making a seven game
series now that the next game is in Carolina. Boy, it's you know,
when it's only happened four times in history, it's hard to believe that
they could do it against the team as good as the Rangers. But boy,
the momentum swings in that series are pretty pretty vast, Like I mean,
winning three then losing potentially three to a game seven. And listen,
even the games that Carolina lost, they're all one goal games. It's just
it's the same as Vancouver and Edmonton. They're all one goal games. So
whoever gets a break, whoever gets the big save, you know, it
could happen. I mean, it doesn't happen very often, but it could
happen that series. Yeah, it looks like Craig Ruby is going to be
a next head coach of the league. Bruce, can you understand why?
Well, he's won of Stanley cupp you know, I mean, I think
everybody likes to have guys that have won Stanley Cupps before. The only problem
is there's not too many of them out there available. So but I mean,
you know, he was a good coach in Saint Louis, so I
don't see any problem with that With the Leafs. I think Sheldon Keep did
a really good job too. But sometimes you need a different voice. And
I know that's cliche, but it's the truth. And so you know,
like that's that's where they're at it. I think, well, we've all
got serious XM. Love listening to you on the NHL Network. Just outstanding,
Bruce, Thanks so much for joining us. We'll get you on again
before the playoffs are over. Sounds good, you guys, take care,
You bet you, Bruce Boudreau, former Connacs head coach with the NHL Network.
The second guest we've had, including Jeff Cortnell, who talked about Elias
Petterson's body language, body language confidence Sam boyle boy, did he nail it
with Petterson? And he says his body language is showing you he's lacking confidence.
And he also says something interesting was I think the team has lost confidence
in him. That was interesting as well. Honestly, I think with the
last night's game, and we're gonna talk about it more in the next segment,
I just think that everybody has to draw inspiration from what Connor Garland was
up to then. He was good. He was good last night, just
so noticeable, moving his feet at all times, hanging on. This is
a guy who's listed at five to ten. There's no way he's five to
ten, and he was just so good last night. Team leading four shots
last night for Garland. You knew in the first period. He was buzzing.
He was buzzing right in the first period. And you remember the second
power play unit in the four minute power play, they were better. They
were better, and Garland was a big reason why the second unit was better
in the power play. He was buzzing all night last night. Rogers Arena.
Tomorrow Game five and again there will be no Annie and Dolly playoff postgame
show on Thursday. We'll get back to work with that show. On Saturday.
There will be a game six. We'll update the poll question next.
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I think this is from Vincent Hoko Delany's Okay, Taron Langley in box.
You can't win the Cup with only two Canadians on your team. Unsigned.
The problem, Rick, is all the imports. They need more Canadians.
Okay. So Rick Dolliwald did some One of the Canadians was didn't play last
night because he was suspended. We had Rick Dolliwald did some research at three
thirty of the morning, No right now, ninety ninety percent of the ninety
four Canucks team and they went to the final Canadian eighty percent of the two
to eleven team Canadian, ninety percent of the nineteen eighty two team Canadian.
There's something there different times, but the Sedins europe well, eighty two,
there wasn't a ton of europe coming over, the Europeans. Europeans, No,
there wasn't enough. There wasn't many Europeans coming over, and yet a
couple of their best players. I've in Boulder at Patrick St. Thomas Kredeen,
Uri Bublah. Okay, they work. They started coming over slowly in
the eighties, but three teams that the Canucks sent to the finals, heavy
Canadian roster, a different era. You forget. Twenty eleven was, you
know, over a decade ago. Last time I checked, And as Derek
just pointed out to me, of course, all three of those teams Stanley
Cup champions. So that's good. Oh wait, no, they didn't win.
They got there. I know, but if you looked at the Islanders
or roster, they weren't gonna win eighty two. Okay, you look at
the Rangers, they weren't gonna win, Ryan two eighty two side? Come
on, come on, it is it? The breakdown orders, lineup is
heavily Canadian? You need? And where are they? They're tied to two
with Canadian russe. Because people bring this, it's not stupid, it's emotional
for a lot of people. Sure, I don't. I don't get it.
When Brian Burke won the Cup within anaheid, he's American, Okay,
eighteen I think there was eighteen Canadians on that roster. Bryan, tell me
that didn't matter. You can tell me that didn't matter. The Lightning went
back to back Cups, both winners not Canadian. You know that less?
Hey, Donny, you need Sergio Momessio type guy or Memesso. No,
Sergio, what did I say my messo? Yeah, not Messiomesso. You
need Memesso type guys. In ninety four he was big. You know a
lot of Kidds and Ron delor all these guys in eighty two. You need
those type of guys to go far. Show. From twenty eleven, Ryan
Kessler won the Knucks a playoff series the PA. So he's lesser because he's
American. Why do you get why? Because it doesn't make any sense?
Can you guys bring him up? Can you say? Can you not understand
what a lot of people would say, Hey, I like Canadians. I'm
Canadian. I wouldn't mind if the Knucks had more Canadians on the Yes,
Like it's natural to think that way. It just doesn't make sense what you
say, sands to the Western Conference final. We're not gonna have a single
message, not one bringing up the roster. But if they they if they
advance, nobody's gonna bring it up. If they lose, though, suddenly
it's this big issue. You're absolutely right, But do you not get no?
I know people are proud, people are emotional. You're emotional, right
now. Well, you know what this all comes down to. This comes
down to you crossing the border to get cheese and gas American geese. That's
a very sore subject for me right now. Why because I can't go down
I got no damn time with this postgame show. I haven't been down there
so long ago. So now you're anti Canadian and anti postgame show. There's
a lot of things. I'm tuned in a lot of things. I went
to the stage last Saturday. Oh, mister, just for a barbecue.
Just for a barbecue. No, okay, not shopping. Yes, yes,
family, you should have gone to Mississippi or something instead. You shouldn't
have gone to the stage. The nice cold Budweisers went down. Nice,
I'll leave it. Wow real you know local beer? Yeah there, Hey,
so you want me to take Canadian beer over the border. But you
could have had some kind of something in watching you hold on a second?
Way off the subject here. But they got Sussie Myers is born in Houston.
But he he's a Canadian, right, There's not a lot of Canadians
if they get what if they get eliminated, You're going to see text in
our Delaney's Okay, turn Langley Bocks. Not enough Canadians and this team,
mark it down, it's gonna happen. This team might have a Norris Trophy
winner and a Vesna winner that every team in the league would trade for in
thirty five seconds. Like I sos, the winner might get traded for a
guy that's not anadiot because of the guy that's now playing here is not conn
I just don't get why. I don't get why you care. No,
you both don't get a lot of things. Just for a second again,
I'm gonna repeat myself. I just don't get why you don't get it.
People feel the way it's you. You're right. Actually, you can look
at a roster and go but there's a lot of players that aren't Canadian and
they're doing well. Yeah, I get, but I don't get why people.
I don't get why you don't get why people will feel that way.
I would love to have four or five guys from Saskatchewan rolberta on the roster.
I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm a big Western Hockey League guy.
I love the guys. I love the players that the Western Hockey League
produces. Right, Okay, Hey, and the Canucks have not had a
ton of Western Hockey guys. Yes, Kelly McCrimmon. What happened last year
with that team? So they won the cup with the most Canadians thirteen and
fourteen Canadians. That's why I said there's there's cases to be made year after
year for sure. But again you can share, right, You're absolutely right.
We're gonna move on. The other players you love are from the BHL.
Rick Yeah, yeah, what happened in the BHL last night? Oh
big night last night. I want to get props up. There's my second
after the Western Hockey League, here's my second favorite league in British Columbia,
the BC Hockey League. Surrey beat Alberni Valley too. I thought it was
the time conference Let me go Conference finals. Last night Surrey beat Alberni Valley.
Penticton beat Salmon Arms. So it's going to be a b C Hockey
League final Surrey against Penticton. Penticton was down Donny three to one in the
third. They scored three goals in the last five minutes. Surrey almost blew
a three one series lead. A great team out of Elbernie Valley this year.
That's two years in a row. They've been great. So anyways,
Surrey and Penticton in the BC Hockey League Final. Okay, and we should
mention we alluded to this yesterday. You can check it out on Twitter.
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Oh the day. Our guests from the ten o'clock hour earlier today.
Jeff Cornwall and what a player he was on one of the great undrafted players
along with Curtis Joseph and others in National Acatheague history. Honestly and amazing.
I love, I loved great hair. Sixty one years old, not nothing
missing, and when he wasn't scoring Canadian he was doing other stuff going it
he's Canadian and ay, out of all the great players that Victoria has produced
over the over the years, the Courtnel brother brothers obviously, and the Ben
brothers at the top of the list, all Canadian, all Canadian and all
from Vancouver Island. We're located, yes, yes, so we only got
time to run this takic clip to you. We're gonna go sure, yeah,
we get one for m what's that? Okay, we'll do that quickly.
What am I thinking of here? Doctor Dempko? Update? Quick he
just brought him up. Yeah, okay, so listen, I've been told
making good progress. We will see american American. So what did I get
the update? How's that going? Good? Jump back? Can I get
the update? Dem go making good progress. We'll see where he is in
a few days. Game seven, I'm told still they're hoping as a possibility,
but there's good starting. No, I never said that if he is
ready, they got a decision to make. But I'm just saying good I
can report at least I'm hearing good progress being made with dem which is good.
Can you that would my mind? What you would shove Sea Lofts aside?
Hey, I mean no, we're not. We don't know. We're
just saying he's making good progress. We will deal with that. Depends six
five and six. But she lost. But he's been just outstanding that play
with the poke check. Evander Kine a rookie making a player. He came
out and Evander Kane is a mean piece of work and coming out there to
and successfully execute that poke check, among other things he's done, even to
work with his legs. He's even if it wasn't even like you know what
I'm saying, Even if it was unsuccessful. You know what to do that
in that moment to think about doing that taking that gamble, that's pretty impressive,
confident. You know it was wild about that is that Kane is Canadian
and somehow she lost was able to beat him to the park a lot being
a Canadian. Do a loose puck. Okay, We're good. DTMZ or
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Exactly, that's a good question. The bosses are over in Victoria.
But let me phone up Rob. We get him involved here for people who
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Can I do let me do something very Kentucky, very fast? Okay,
because oh you could do something well? Yeah, sure, go ahead.
Because Dolly was gonna love this because we've got a few submits about this.
Rick Talkeets beginning of the media right now. Yeah, I think everyone
is in play in Stanley Cup playoffs talking on the karamaki being an option okay
to Vancouver Canucks, and you guys talk about me texting or tweeting last night
at three thirty. A lot of the responses we got, now these these
were responses hours. A lot of people brought that up, you know,
put the karamaki with I mean a lot of guys, a lot of rookies
have made their nhld's okay, hold on, Yes, very true, And
as I disagree with you again, I present to you Arthur Sea LOFs.
Yeah, okay, how many games had Sea Loofs played this year versus the
Karamaki in the Did you expect to see this? What would your guest?
Absolutely, I would not have. I would not have guessed this from Sea
LOFs, right, okay. But I mean, look, we we talked
yesterday about apparently Rik talking disagree. We talked about all the changes the others
made yesterday to be desperate. Don't you think this would come across as being
the Ryan I agree with you This is a nineteen year old kid who's just
played chicken games in North America with the American Hockey League. Abby cacks one
goal, one assistance. But a lot of people will say he can't be
worse than some of the players that are in the lobby right now. That's
it. And you know they they need they need something from number forty.
Maybe that would help. Well, I mean, you talk about getting a
winger to play with him. Here's a kid, he's a winger. He
can score or you know, you can be a score Karamakie Game seven win
winner assisted by overtime. My gosh, what would we do. We wouldn't
have a show. We wouldn't be able to criticize Elias Petterson, but talking
won't. There's another quote here. I'm not putting him in the lineup though.
He's not Canadian, So that that's your brick. Yeah, interesting,
how we had time for that. Yeah, okay, so let's get right
to birthdays. Then I understand, and we have eight birthdays and the line
is set at seven by a new client of ours, actually not a new
client, a former client has jumped back on board. If I got that
right. Yeah, this is an island Joe A good pal Island. Line
set, Island Joe's back. This is the the artwork Island. That's what
I met. He was, he was gone, he was gone a long
time. You get that freeze, very excited face. Island Joe back.
They clipped that too. Has had a lot of scoops over the years.
Ever you have your guy excited. You kept this from me. Didn't tell
me that Island Joe's back. No, this isn't old. See him and
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Derek throw it up? Yeah, Derek throwing up. Line set at seven
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three Canucks winger born in Dearborn, Michigan, scored a career high eighteen goals
this past regular season. He currently plays with the team and Where's number eighty
one? Joshua Yeah, you're thinking about the Joe Let's go. Former NHL
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In February, he replaced Todd mccollin as head coach of the LA Kinks.
Hiller Jim Hiller. Jim Hiller, thirty four year old crack and right
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Emitt Smith, Tony dors Set out of pitt for Noma again. There you
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thirty three. Okay, good, it's a second one down. Yeah,
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you can get Donnie Dolly Merchant to quit some The inbox is flooded like it's
never been flooded before. Yes, there are a lot of stuff going on,
a lot of reaction today from the loss last night. We'll start with
this is it just me? But mackayb is a disaster. Sit him and
go with HOGI and Potty with Petterson. It can't get worse. Eric the
Greens keep I wonder about McKay's future, Donny, I wonder if that's the
guy they try and move this summer. You know, I wonder about that
sometimes, Well, much like you wonder about island, Joe's Island, Joe's
return. I keep an eye on mackayb this summer. But here's the old
thing. I mean, you everyone know he's not playing well. He hasn't
played well since he's been event What do you get for him? Well,
not only that, would you might get Capriunny, what do you have to
give up as a stupener? And Cannocks don't have a second round pick this
year because they had to put a sweetener in to get rid of Dickinson's contract,
You're gonna have to do the same thing for michav Chap Jill from Surrey?
Is just me? Or has Heronic proven exactly why he isn't worth eight
million a year? And you were talking about nine and a half million rick
At least with PD we know he can play better. But I haven't seen
a thing from Heronic that would make me think he deserves a big contract.
Weren't you saying earlier this week or last week there was a possibility of a
nine and a half year demand. Someone said they were using darn Ell Nurse
as a comparable, but I found out that wasn't true. But Donnie is
still eight million. He's making four point four He's got zero points in ten
playoff games. I know there's a rumor out there he's not one hundred percent.
But I'll tell you right now, maybe half that roster isn't one hundred
percent. But that I mean, he's got no points, Donny. If
the Canucks, I don't think they can. I can't find anyone in hockey
who thinks that he's worth eight million. That that contract is going to get
ugly. It's not going to get better if he's gonna ask for eight million,
you know. But then you look at the season Hughes had has had
right Norris caliber season. Maybe he went to Norris and he's he's his partner,
Ronix's partner. Maybe that ups his value. What else you got?
All right? Rick from East Fan, is just me. In twenty and
eleven, the Bruins had more Canadians than the Canucks. Stats have shown that
the team with the most Canadians wins Stanley Cups. That is bang on,
Rick from East Fan. You are correct? From not a doctor in Ladner?
Is it just me? But something tells me the way Petterson is moving,
this is from not a doctor. He has a sports hernia. I
had a hernia once, don O, I did I did? Those things
are painful and you know. They they what happened? Surgery surgery. I
was out for you know, quite a while. I I I how it
happened. Well, I had to take paining killers of the whole nine yards.
It's not fun doing, you know her between hernia and a sports hernia.
Well, I'm telling you, doctor Dolly wall and they are I can't
get did the same thing. I don't know. I don't know. I
had a hernia. I had the operation to cut you up and then they
then I was out for good two to three weeks. Okay, all right,
go uh is it just me Rick, get one of your kids to
set up IPTV for you and you'll get everything. Nick and North Berney.
What's ip TV? Right right? It's it's one of these things. It's
an to new fangles. Would you say Internet provider? I don't on the
internet. It's a box that you get streams of TV but is illegal.
I don't box. So it gives your channels from like all over the world,
right right. I don't want to get boxes. I don't want to
have additional wires. I don't want I want to sit in front of my
television and get everything that I pay for. I don't want to do the
additional stuff, I'm not. I'm not going to do it. I'm an
old fashioned guy and I'm not going to do that. I'm not getting a
box Lyle and Centerville Nova Scotia is just me. But if Petterson had waited
until the season, after the season it signed like he wanted, eleven and
a half would be unlikely. Media pressure, push management and ep forty to
get it done early. NHL playoffs are the best filter. Can you imagine
if he was looking for that kind of money right now or after the season.
So if the Canucks would have said, at one point after these playoffs,
if Petterson want here's another one for you, folks. Patterson wanted to
wait till after the season. It was the Canucks who pressured him. Remember
the meeting, It was the Canucks who pressured him into signing. At the
time he signed, Patterson and his camp had informed the Canucks let's talk after
the season. So if the Canucks want to blame anyone, they really have
to look in the mirror on this one and the time will tell. But
it's not looking good right now, Surrey Ryan, Is it just me?
Bouchard is out playing Hughes at this point and like, I have a hard
time. I don't Quinn he he hasn't got a goal yet in the playoffs,
but what a hockey players, he's got zero goals? You can okay,
ye, where's my power play stats? I'll tell you why. Well,
he's got he's got nine assists. Bouchard has four goals, including two
game winners in this series, eleven assists, fifteen points. It helps when
McDavid and dry sat alone. It helps being on a power play that's running
at forty five percent. Part you're part of that power play, though,
Rick, Yeah, okay, I get it, But look at their power
play. Who's the number one defenseman on the owners power play, Bouchhard?
Come on and they're the number one power play in the NHL and they're running
at a cud Rick Hughes is the is the point man on the on the
I play. I get it. I like the world of Hughes and mobility
wise and compete wise. I take him any day, even though he's American
and Bouchard is Canadian. So here we go with that Canadian again. So
Rick, which players are getting rid of? So Mike from Moose, John
Ron from Regina can play Stephen Vancouver. I'm not saying that you have to
just go out and get him. The Canucks history of drafting dub guys has
not been good in the past few years. Right, they are leaning heavily?
Is done? Eh Don? What'd I say? I said done?
Yeah, they haven't drafted a lot of Western hockey the guys in the past.
Jake for Tanna might be there. They are drafting heavy European guys late.
And that's all I'm saying. Uh, several people, do we read
this one already? Rich and Richmond? It's just me? But what about
the Karamaki? You can't be any worse offensively? And then Ryan, what
the hell helped me out here? What was the quote today from Rick talcketting
about Lakara Maackie. It's a possibility, it's a possibility. Yeah, he's
also he's also had this one. Now, it's a baseball analogy, the
possibility of the Karamaki, who's never played an NHL game. I'm swinging the
bat. I'm not scared. Didn't commit to him playing, but sounds like
a real consideration. Says he wants to get all the intel first, maybe
a called Agent ninety nine or something. Gets No, he'll have a good
chat with the Absburd coach. Jeremy call Agent ninety nine, Agent ninety nine,
he'll have a talk with the Absburg coach and get the lowdown. And
and also Ryan Johnson and is he ready for this moment? But he hasn't
played in a game? Okay, Ryan Holbs Seelove's never played a playoff.
I'm just saying from a rust standpoint, because he went from Abbotsford right to
the camp right for Sweden, and he went back to Sweden, didn't play.
He went back to Sweden then back like he hasn't played in what a
month? Yeah, but Sea Loves had never played an NHL playoff game.
Up, let me play Devil's advocate. A player here who couldn't make Sweden's
World Championship roster is going to help the connection in the playoffs. It doesn't
seem likely, but stranger things have happened, and there is offensive talent there.
It's intriguing at the very least, Yes it is, and you made
a good point. It can't be any worse than the lack off get offensively,
the lack of production. The Peterson's wingers are getting four guys have played
repetterision of the playoffs. They have combined for one assist on one assist.
A break will wrap up the show and the poll question next, Yes,
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better accept him, Cal and Langley. Well, that didn't stop management from
giving Patterson a huge raiso. Donnie, good point. Whole question and I
understand Lias Petterson has talked. Yeah, right, he's just doing an interview
right now, so we'll we'll monitor it all right. Our waddling dog up
pop pole question Donnie's poll question from three point thirty this morning from his hotel
room. Best option for Patterson and leading right now is put him on the
wing with Lindholm thirty eight hundred votes already. It's hoping, it's popping,
it's not stopping. Yeah, and we've had that Karmackie Lacarry Mackie option presented
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