Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Hey, how
are you? Come on in and have a chair. How are you doing
today? We are talking about wellness in the form of physical frequencies or resonance.
How you resonate as a human being. What does that mean? We
have a whole bunch of unseen fields of energy permeating from our body. The
ancients call them the chakra system the Tibetans, the Chinese, the Hindu that
Maya talked about the chakra systems, the energy fields, and our guest today
has written a very important book, a book that is really the forefront of
what the future holds right now. In the western side of the world,
the United States, Europe, we look towards really a dying art, which
is called allopathic medicine. They don't really have a system of reading your energy.
They don't care about it. It's usually a short visit to your doctor.
When you go in, you've got fifteen or twenty minutes, very little
discussion about your mental health unless you're chronically depressed. Of course, there is
no discussion on your daily activities. It's a very very minimal type of evaluation
and it's a problem. And I was looking at some figures the other day,
and I'm looking mostly here in the western side of the United States California,
Oregon, Washington, that the hospital systems HMOs are not really providing a
care that is appreciated. More people are unhappy with their doctor, unhappy with
the system that they are forced to be a part of. I mention this
all the time. I am here with the Kaiser Permanente group, and it's
a disappointment. It's a continual disappointment because they're out of touch. And as
we begin to incorporate more detective systems of accounting for wellness through frequency, understanding
energy systems, understanding what vitamins and what therapy enhances the energy systems that would
be Chinese medicine as acupuncture, herbal remedies, natural pathic medicine, herbs,
wellness treatments, other therapies, aervetic systems, which are again that's Indian,
that's healing, natural pathic healing, food suggestions, all for the system rather
than the model of giving you a drug or giving you a surgical procedure for
wellness. That is becoming, and it has been becoming fast out of touch
and out of people's interests. People who are struggling to be well because they're
under pressure at work, if they're having issues at home. They can't exercise,
they can't eat well, their bodies are breaking down at a younger age.
And you're asked to take a drug. Well, that doesn't work anymore.
I was at my doctor's appointment recently and the doctor's like, well,
we need to put you on some drugs for your blood pressure, so and
forth. And I said to him point blank, I said, look,
I don't want to take I don't do well on drugs. I can't take
drugs. I'd rather lose weight. I'd rather go on a wellness plan that
includes diet, includes nutrition, includes more thought to taking time off during the
day for rest periods, taking more time off during the week, so forth
and so on. They don't get that, and you know their behooven't the
pharmacological industry to push drugs. You know, it's just a real complete joke,
and it's coming up in the unhappy reports evaluations by people who have to
deal with this. And like I said, I was looking at this the
other day. You know where wellness can be between one and five stars.
Most hospitals between two and three average. You know, no one's loving going
to the doctor because they don't get it. They're out of touch, and
it's a major, major problem. I talk about this all the time.
So today's guest is a woman who went through an accident physical health issues and
came out and began to understand more about her physical, mental, and emotional
or spiritual self and took action and began to reveal a therapy program that was
substantially better than what we get from the allopathic medical side of things. And
by the way, you've heard me talk about it, I go to a
Chinese medical doctor once a month. I go to for a massage. And
I'll tell you that's another thing I don't talk enough about body work. You
know, my parents' generation just would not allow anyone to touch them. My
father, my mother, my grandparents. They don't understand that when you have
somebody working on your body, massaging your muscles, working connective tissue, ligaments
and tendons and things like that, it is a huge, huge benefit.
Everybody needs to get a massage. It's easier said than done because it's not
cheap when you go to a massage therapist. The good ones have had good
training, and so when you're finished with your massage, you're like, oh
my god. You know, it's like they've taken a twenty pound chain that
you've been dragging around the street, around the house, and they released you
from it. Body work is huge, huge. I try to go once
a month. I can't always do that, especially if you're traveling. So
body work, good nutrition. You hear it on Destiny all the time.
It's called tools for transformation, being aware of your body, of your mind,
and of your spirit. Because we want to live as long as we
can, healthy and productive and to enjoy our our loved ones, our family,
our our friends, are our mates. You know. We want to
be able to enjoy living as long as we can in a in a positive,
in a healing environment. We want we want wellness. So today's program
is raise your frequency, transform your life. And my guest today is Selena
Matreya. So Destiny is all about tools for transformation. We have a good
one for you today. My guest has basically risen like a phoenix out of
a car accident and has written a new book on her experience and also developed
it into a work book. Her name is Selina Montrea. She is a
lecture author, spiritual teacher, the creator of Clarion Paul. Also, she
is a founding member of the Manhattan Holistic Chamber of Commerce and a board member
of the Boston Theosophical Society. She lives in Arlington, Massachusetts. And I'm
really looking forward to speaking with their I'll tell you why because I have had
a chance to look at this book, and not only does it have a
great deal of good material in it, but it's a work book, which
means that you, the listener, have a chance to work with some of
her information. So Selena, welcome to Destiny. Great to have you on
the program. Well, thank you, Cliff, I'm really pleased to be
here. Thank you. Is a wonderful It's almost a cathartic experience where you
go through a car accident and you are basically struggling with this brain injury.
Talk a little bit about this accident and where were you in your life during
this period, because a lot of times guidance is like, Okay, we're
going to shake things up. So I think things are looking pretty good at
the time, weren't they. Yeah, I'm going to reframe this a little
bit. If you'll go ahead. This in my world. This isn't an
accident, and I'm a teacher of vibration and words carry frequency. It was
an event in my life. It was a major, spiritually created event.
So to answer your question, I had just come off of a fifteen year
commitment to be a single parent to my two boys. I had a career
at that point as a consultant to photographers around the world, fashion editorial,
architectural food. I was the first consultant in the country. I'd had this
business for years, and at that point in my life, I was I
had two books that were published, I was on book tours. I did
one hundred and fifty lectures around the country. I had ten gardens. I
cooked dinner every night for my boys when they were home, and I was
ninety percent responsible for their financial life. I was really committed to keeping them
in their home. When their dad, who's a fabulous guy, really good
dad, I chose to keep the house and buy it from him and work
really hard. So I was at the end of my fifteen year stint where
I had been really working fourteen hour days and working hard at stuff that I
loved. But I also had been a teacher, a spiritual teacher, and
I've been a spiritual student since i was sixteen, and I'm now about to
be sixty nine. So my name was given to me by my first teacher,
and so I had a grounding in spirituality. I had been teaching locally
because that's all I could do because my life was so full of mothering and
consulting. And spirit had said to me that when my boys were older and
when I sold my house, that would be my time to go and be
a teacher. So I was moving to New York City. I was born
in the city. I was going back after many years to live there.
My kids had already been in relationship with women that they're now married to,
and everything was going along swimmingly. I had just emptied out my house completely
of twenty years, and I was staying overnight at a local motel, got
in my car, went over to clean my house for the very last time.
It was the very first day of the rest of my life. Like
picture this, fifteen years of really hard work, Cliff, doing exactly what
you wanted to do with taking good care of your kids, establishing you know,
a business, teaching when you could, and now you're going off to
the next stage of your life, we have less responsibility, more opportunity to
make money and teach, which I had really wanted to do. So that's
where I was. I was in the car going to clean my house for
the very last time, and I was at a stoplight and as I proceeded
through it when it turned green, I had an Audi convertible, and I
mentioned that because the woman that hit me came from the left seventy miles an
hour in a van into my driver door. And were you when I was
reading that? Guy? Run of that? But it within an Audi,
which luckily this car was made of metal, not fiberglass. At any rate.
I was knocked out on impact and had the most incredible experience, which
is beyond words. But I had been a channel for many, many years.
Spirit had been speaking through me. My connection to the divine was twenty
four to seven, and they spoke to me in the car, and they
were very clear that this was an event they had created, and I would
leave the car without a broken bone or a cut, but that my life
would be very different for the next couple of years, and my job was
to completely surrender and allow them to bring to me to place myself basically cliff
in full receivership because they would take care of the daily details. We should
let people know, though, that you're very detailed in describing this accident and
having to be extracted by the jaws of life. So that's not a simple
accident where you're just bumped into each other. No, the car was pretty
well mangled. Well, it was. What had happened was it was the
jaws of life because the door was so wedged in when she hit me the
impact I had also been the state trooper. I lived in a tiny little
town in the middle of horse farms and apple orchards, so I didn't even
get to talk to the state trooper until a week later. I didn't even
know if I had caused this. I didn't think I had, but I
didn't know for a week at any rate. She said to me when I
talked with her, she said, well, Selena, what happened in the
car? Did you know because you landed an inch from a pole that if
you would hit it, your car would have blown up. And she said,
I measured it. You landed an inch and a half from that pole
and in the car. For me, my experience was that as soon as
I had been knocked out. I was in a I didn't exist and as
I said, knocked unconscious. Yeah, as soon as she hit me.
Yeah, because I didn't see her coming. I went into the intersection and
she hit me and I was immediately knocked out. And that's when Spirit came
in and spoke to me, and they also as I was coming out later
on, as I was coming out of being unconscious, they said, I
heard I heard a voice that said turn to the right. And I don't
know what I did or how I did it, but I saw something in
front of me and managed I, according to the state trooper, to turn
to the right and my car stopped. And she said that, you know,
because I had been hit. If the car had hit the pole,
I would have exploded, but luckily did not. So yeah, the car
was a mess. I went to the hospital five hours later released not a
broken bow, not a cut, not a scratch, So we all thought
it was pretty miraculous. And then three days two days later, I couldn't
walk down a hallway. So I saw my neurologist and she diagnosed me with
a traumatic brain injury. And perhaps Cliff feel appreciate this as I did.
She said, the only thing I can offer you, Selena, is the
tincture of time, which I thought was beautiful, which is well natural healing.
Basically, it has to take its time to heal. What she's saying.
And she's a neurologist who was ninety years old, and she had seen
me a week before on a well visit that I walked in a week later,
totally different. But she explained to me that it would get worse before
it got better, and that at a year we would know where I was
going to be. And a year later I was no better than I was
the first week, which was pretty bad. And it took five years for
me to talk a little bit about the condition. You had trouble stringing sentences
together, you had trouble communicating, you were a sensitive to sound, a
lot of typical neurological trauma in a very large way. Taking a shower was
a big deal in the first because what happens, Cliff, is that when
your brain is as damaged as mine was, you have full body exhaustion.
You are completely exhausted. So yes, sound and like. But what I
learned, and this is just from my experience, not being a scientist,
obviously, is the brain separates the frequency that's around us. We don't see
the radio waves, we don't see all. But when your brain is injured,
you see everything and you experience all the energy that we don't see with
a healthy brain. So I was experiencing all these energy feels and I couldn't
move through them, so I was exhausted. I was stood one day in
my kitchen in New York with an egg in one hand in my frying pan
and another and I knew they had something to do with each other, but
I don't know what I mean. It was that and it stayed that way
for years. I got I did do things, but it was very difficult.
And if I did anything where I had to do any speaking at all,
I had to sleep all day just to have the energy. So it
was difficult. It was, Yeah, it was. It was not a
picnic talk a little bit about you working with oneness, because you write that
when you were, you know, close your eyes and just kind of shut
things out around you. Your communication with this, and I want to ask
if this is your higher self, is this your divine bean? What is
this communication? Yeah, what do you define oneness as well? Long before
my car event, as I said, I had been a spiritual student for
many years and working with my current teacher for the last twenty seven and in
that relationship, that's when source channeled through me. And the source that channels
through me is the oneness, is the undifferentiated field. That is what I
would consider the sole level within each person, the love within us. And
so that that I had had a very deep experience with the divine within me
twenty four to seven, complete communication, and when the car event happened,
that's the energy that spoke through me. That's the energy that channeled this book.
That's the energy that speaks through me as I teach, and I just
very clearly speak to the fact that each of us has the energy of love,
the divinity in us. You know, we're all different people, with
different histories and different brains and different physicalities, different emotional bodies, different personalities,
and the one aspect that we have in common is the energy of the
divine within us. The only difference between me and other people is that I
actively saw it twenty six years ago to cultivate that relationship, and so that
is the that is what speaks through me, and that is the divinity within
me. That's within us all. So this book, this new book we're
talking about, is called Raise Your Frequency, Transform Your Life. That covers
a lot of ground, and obviously you have over two hundred pages of real
detailed material. What was the I mean? Rather than writing an autobiography,
you actually have created a workbook, which is fascinating. You've actually devoted the
various chapters to specifics on working and bringing this oneness out individually. But what
would I mean was did oneness did your guidance say, look, we need
to write for others, we need to help others, and this experience you
had kind of released that for us to read about. Talk about that,
well, it was once again I have to laugh because, okay, so
I'm going to ask your listeners and you to picture this. There I am
in New York, expecting a different life, not able to do very much
at all, but very grateful because of my work. I put my attention
on the gratitude that I had, not on the difficulty I was experiencing,
which is what I do in my everyday life, which is what the book
and I teach students. Because we have choice, you know, we can
live beyond our circumstances or we can dive into the circumstances and have them define
our life. And the book teaches us. And what Spirit has taught me
is that we are our attention and what we put our attention on growth.
So here I am just going trying to go through my daily life open to
whatever is given me. And Spirit says, Okay, now it's time to
write a book. And I'm right a book. How can I write a
book? Source? I mean, you have asked me illogical things. You
have asked me for a great dedication and devotion, all of which I've given.
But now you're asking me to write a book. I can't type,
I can't think, And they said, yes, but you can speak,
and you can record our messages into your phone. So for four years I
recorded their messages into my phone, and in year five, when I was
able to type more efficiently, I transcribed them. I worked with a transcriber
actually, to transcribe them into a book form. In my life since the
car event has been completely directed by Source, which sounds a bit unusual to
some people but feels incredibly natural to me. And they had moved me several
times. I got moved to New York, then I got moved up to
Washington Heights in New York. Then they pulled me out of New York thankfully
because I needed nature, and they brought me to Woodstock, New York.
I don't know if you've ever been there, but it was one time,
very very open and very surreal. Yeah, very cool. And if we
had another hour, I would tell you the story of how I got there,
which was amazing. It was everything that had happened during this time period.
You know, I'm very blessed and in being guided by source, I
was taken to Woodstock, New York, and I was given a beautiful house
on the river, and I met my editor in Woodstock, New York.
So then the book got edited. But yeah, they gave me this book
during a time when you know, I could barely take a shower. Yeah
we should. We should also say that financially things were very difficult as well,
because you really weren't able to hold a job. So you're actually during
that period writing this book through these recordings on your phone. But also,
and I was kind of paraphrasing from what I read that you're healing. This
is a healing period, but also there's other things going on, like what
what else is happening, Well, not very much. I did have a
consulting business, as I said, for thirty years, Yes and no.
I had contracts, and they were with clients who I had been working with
for years because my photographers and I, you develop very deep relationships when you
work with artists on their work, so they were very patient and I had
about after about a year, I had an hour to two hours a day
where I could focus enough to communicate, and so I was able to do
a little bit. What also happened at that time that was miraculous is Spirit
directed me to reach out to one of my largest competitors, who because I
was the first consultant in the country and the business of photography had really developed
over the years, and lots of businesses popped up to serve photographers, one
of which was a company owned by a man who I had a great relationship
with, and part of his services competed with mine and part of them didn't,
and we supported each other. So they told me to reach out to
him and offer him a program I created, and I did, and he
ended up buying it and I licensed it to him and then he purchased it,
and that kept me going for three years, and so during the time,
I wasn't working very much at all. I was just servicing the clients.
And I had had a very not an affluent life, but I had
a very comfortable life. I had supported my boys with my consulting business.
I had done extremely well with it, but I had no savings because I
lived in a very expensive area. I put my kids through college with their
dad. So all of that money that I made was going out. And
I had had a financial plan with my accountant for the year that I moved,
which was great and would have seen me at the earning level. I
was making a great deal of money in New York, but because I couldn't
do that within five years, I was really advised to claim bankruptcy, which
really was not something I wanted to do because I started my life clip with
seventy five dollars when I was sixteen years old, and I've been on my
own since then. And to go from being a sixteen year old on her
own with once with six months of college, out in the world and getting
to a place where, you know what, thirteen years ago, I was
in my fifties. I was sold a house, my car was gone,
I had brought up my kids really well for challenge. It was tough.
It was tough, but it was Ego that didn't want to do that.
So as soon as Source showed me, hey, it's just ego, then
it was really what I needed to do. So I did, and I
claimed bankruptcy because I had to. It wasn't like I couldn't take care of
my daily bills. They were fine, but there was a piece of credit
there that had been left that needed to be released. So it was so
that happened, and life continued to move on. The most amazing things happened
being directed by Source. I was directed to holmes that were beautiful and I
met the right people, meaning I met my editor in Woodstock. So life
continued in a different tenor, but it was a wonderful existence. It truly,
truly was. Before we get into some of the details of this book,
I want you to describe for the listener this connection which comes through you.
When we were talking about it before we started called channeling. What was
it like? Because you were doing this at a young age and you you
met your spiritual teacher. I think you said you kind of came through What
was the channeling like after the accident, was it more audible or was it
more just like so a part of you that everything you did was a reference
from this higher self. Interesting question to me. It didn't feel different at
all because Source and I had already had a very twenty four to seven connection.
The difference was what I will say the difference was is before the car
event, I would plan things with my brain. I know the difference between
a thought and sitting down and thinking and a knowing, which is a source
inspired information that just lands in my system. And then, of course when
I go into State and I have constant communication with Source, that's a whole
other experience. But when I'm not going into State for a student, where
I park my personality and Source comes in and speaks to them directly, Sources
directing my life. Prior to the car event, although I was connected to
Source and Source was I was accepting I'll say I was accepting direction. I
was still working a lot in my humanity, in my third dimensional human I
was sitting and preparing things. I'd look at what I wanted for business,
I'd sit down and I'd think about it. The move to New York I
was very strategic and how I chose neighborhoods to look at after the car event.
There was none of that. I completely surrendered to the divine. I'm
just going to say, sounds like you just said, Okay, whatever you're
telling me to do, I'm going to do. No questions asked, Yeah
exactly that really it's yes, and it still is because I don't because that
that is what. There wasn't a question in my mind, because they said
to me in the car, we're coming in and we're taking you out of
your life. We're going to restructure your frequencies. This is what you've been
asking for all of these years. You wanted to be a teacher. This
is our way of doing that. So please, all you need to do
is surrender. And it wasn't a thought like Okay, I'm surrendering. It
just was like I was there, and so everything I do now I hear
guidance. And the book was guidance. Putting down the book, selling them,
trying to sell the book with guidance, putting it down with guidance.
Starting my work study program's guidance. So what happens is I'm directed and then
I bring in my brain to figure out the steps to take to meet the
guidance. So before I would put my brain into place immediately to create everything.
Now I hear the guidance and I put my brain into place to create
the steps needed here to complete that. I can see some people kind of
losing it over that. But the thing is, I understand in your case
the guidance was there from a younger agent, so you're comfortable with it already
after the accident. It's like you said, Okay, I'm letting you in
completely. Yeah, And I mean that's how I mean describe it. That's
how it sounds. Yeah, And I think it feels pretty accurate what you've
said, because what I would shift, however, is it I really truly
know that we all have the Divine within us. And this is what we
were talking about before we started recording, that we all, you know,
we're multi dimensional beings. We have physical bodies and the personalities and all the
aspects of who we are, and each one of us has the Divine within
us. I chose at an early age to connect to the divine. I
put it on the side in my twenties when I had a husband who was
a rock and roll musician, and then it was sex, drugs and rock
and roll, and that was so much fun. And then when that was
done and over and it was time to get sober in my late twenties,
I recommitted and so yes, So it's been a very long journey. When
the car of it happened, I look at that as my graduate course.
You know, spirit came along and I was ready. But I believe we
all have this opportunity should we choose, And I get that not everybody does,
and that's fine, But for people who are already on a path,
people who are you know, connected to source, who believe in the energy
of love and peace, you know, we everybody has the choice to develop
that relationship. So my relationship during this time definitely deepened. And now it's
you know, I have people ask all the time and and it's a very
good question, well do you get frustrated? Do you have bad days?
Do you ever lie? And no, I try not to lie. I
notice when I'm out of alignment with my values immediately, because it's one and
the same. I witness as I be. So as soon as I'm doing
something that's off register, that's out of alignment with my highest integrity, I
see it I shift it, I change it, which is what the book
teaches us how to do. There's specific ways of doing that. I do
get frustrated, and that's a piece I see, and I shift because I
don't choose to stay frustrated. Doesn't make me happy to be frustrated. So
yeah, I have that consistent alignment. But I learned how to do that
early on. I learned all of what I now take as par for the
course, and that's what's in the book. But what's in the book teaches
us how to witness as we be, how to recognize and or out of
alignment, how to respond to difficulty from love. So everything I am now
I've learned. And the car event didn't give me that didn't bring me to
all of that. It amped up everything I had already been doing and gave
me an opportunity to trust even more fascinating. I want to talk about one
theme that kind of passes through your book, which is and I've been in
the spiritual community as a program director of many, many years, and well
there's books on gaining wealth, having the perfect relationship. In your book,
you stress balance over all of this, and I love this, and I
want you to talk about that because in your suggestion, in your workshop,
in the practices that you present, it's all about balance, balance, balance,
and then you say the prosperity happens, it begins following you. The
relationships fall on the line. Talk about why the balance is the key to
being more harmonious. Well, what we're talking about when you talk about balance,
I'd use the word vibration. We're vibrational beings on top of our physical
body and our personality and our history, our thinking mind. We have energy
systems. And anyone who is curious about that or not certain that we do,
I would invite them to remember that EEGs e ags in the medical world
are the registry, are the recognition of the frequencies that are in our body.
We have this whole tool bag. Most people aren't even using around our
energy systems. Now we know. And we were just talking about frustration.
That would be a low frequency, anger, jealousy, anything that comes through
the pain body is a lower frequency. The higher frequencies are our intuitive body,
our sole level that would be represented by peace, by kindness, the
energies and the experience you know in daily life of compassion and being able to
be tolerant and understanding, bringing in grace and gratitude. So what you're speaking
to is the skill of recognizing and appreciating and accepting that we have these energy
fields and then the use of them. So when we're able to not just
believe that we or a thinking mind or an emotional body, but recognize that
we have an energy system. And neuroscience and I love this, Cliff,
neuroscience has said that the brain does not create a new What the brain does
is it recognizes, right, recognizes, and then organizes around what it recognizes.
Well, the brain recognizes frequency. That's why we have these tests EKGs.
I always get confused, which is the heart one and which is the
brain one? I forget, But there's an EKG and an eeg. Right,
yeah, so which is the one for the brain? Do you know?
KG? I think is the brain? Okay, so we'll go with
that. We'll just go with that. So when you have when if indeed
we are in a place where we're accessing the lower frequencies and we're frust the
brain recognizes that and creates structure around that, which we call thoughts, and
then emotions which I call thoughts moving through the body. So when the brain
recognizes the frequency, the low frequency you're holding, we have thoughts of doom,
we have feelings of despair and depression. And when the brain recognizes the
high frequency of feeling open and lighthearted, it creates thoughts and feelings around that.
So the whole phrase change your thinking, change your life, I think,
is inaccurate. It's change your frequency to change your life, because the
thinking is the after product, and it's hard to change the after product,
but it's easier to change it at a vibrational level because the brain. If
we can change what the brain recognizes rather than what the brain has already created,
we're two steps ahead of the game. So we work with recognizing the
frequencies within us. We're going to take a short commercial break to allow our
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Selena Maltreas discussing her new book, Raise Your Frequency, Transform Your Life.
We'll be right back. My guest today is Selena Meltreis. She is the
author of a new book called Raise Your Frequency and Transform Your Life. She
is discussing how to understand your body from a level of energy rather than just
a massive bones, muscles, and blood flow. I've been practicing energy work
when I was very young. I became a reikie dealer. And I don't
do it that I do it on myself or my girlfriend. But that's energy,
and it's an ancient energy understanding. But you're asking us to look at
the energy of the body and how we distribute it. So how do we
recognize that, because that's what our emotional body does. Our emotional body,
you see, here's where we are now. We are trained and conditioned from
birth to respond chaos from more chaos. When we're born, we're babies without
language. What does a baby do to register and to communicate its discomfort.
It cries, it's uncomfortable, it's hungry, it's wet. So the baby
responds to difficulty with more of the same. It cries to get attention.
So this concept of responding to difficulty with more of the same is so ingrained
in us. And then we're conditioned by the families we grow up and by
society to do the same thing. We're also taught that our brain is the
most important part of our body. What were you thinking, my mother used
to say to me, or somebody who's interested in what's going on in your
brain will go what are you thinking? Right? So we're taught that we
are our brain, and I think teachers like Eckartale other teachers have come in
and said, no, this isn't the case, and it's very true.
The brain was not meant to be our guidance system, our GPS. The
brain was meant to structure what the intuitive body guides us to be. The
emotional body we have was never meant to be a landing field, which is
what people do. Something happens, they dive deep into it. Something difficult
happens, They dive deeper, they start creating stories. They tell the stories
to other people, and suddenly they're keeping these stories alive longer than they need
to be. Because we're trained to use our brain and our emotions, we're
not trained to use our energy fields. We're not even introduced to them.
We're told that they don't even exist. So what we're doing here, which
I'm so excited about and on a mission to share with as many people as
possible, is that our energy fields were always meant to be our daily GPS.
And so as we recognize as we move through the day, we have
the opportunity to use to an answer your question. We have the opportunity to
use the emotional body. So I go through my day and it's like,
you know, I wake up in the morning and I live on a pond
and I have this gorgeous view, and I wake up in the morning and
I'm like, so excited because I've had a good sleep and I'm full of
what's gonna happen today, and so I'm ready to get started. And so
I'm at high frequency. So I recognize, ooh, I'm at high frequency.
Or if I've had a night, we're spirits keeping me up. And
they do this a lot, and they take me on these journeys and they
keep me up for three or four hours. I don't get any sleep.
I wake up the next day and I'm like, you know, I really
am not feeling all that great. So I get to recognize that. And
when I recognize I'm not all that great, I immediately shift my attention and
I go into a meditation to clear out the energy from the night, and
I wake up and I'm feeling so much better. So the structure here is
to be aware to our emotions and our thoughts. What's happening and to use
the practices that are given in the book very easy to use to shift,
to become aware and to access the vibrational system so understandable that you would say,
I don't even know, Like I've done reiki and I know what that
feels like, but how do I experience that on my own? And that
So the book teaches you. It teaches you how to acknowledge, how to
access and how to actualize the high frequency energy at any moment of the day,
even in the middle of trauma. So it's a process and it comes.
The first step comes with awareness of our state and then the willingness to
learn how to choose our states. So it's like anything else. If I
want to consciousness is a muscle, right and if I want to get bigger
biceps, which I do at sixty nine, I have some freeways that sit
across the room, and if they sit across the room, cliff they do
nothing. But when I pick them up and use them, my muscle gets
really well developed. Why because I put my attention on it and I took
the instrument that's needed to grow the muscle. Consciousness is the same. So
for most people who don't know they have this muscle who don't know how to
access it. That's what the book does. It teaches them how to access
it and then how to use it. And that's why it's a workbook because
I wanted not to just do teaching. I've gone to lots of workshops.
I've read tons of books, and I've been so grateful to the many teachers
that are out there. But I have left more workshops going Wow, how
wonderful was that? But what do I do now? I've read so many
books that were like, what a great book, But what do I do
now? I'm overwhelmed. So the book was meant to be a workbook,
and it's structured as a regular book, but in each chapter it's written sequentially.
I didn't think about this. Spirit gave it to me this way.
They told me exactly what practices to put in, and then I pulled stories
from my students that illustrated. So each chapter has a theme to it,
and the book grows so you're able to take it in one chapter at a
time. And each chapter has a theme and then practice is related to that,
and then a story from a student that speaks to that theme. Excellent.
Yeah, I want to correct myself. EKG is for the heart,
and this is a big one for me. Let's talk about the heart,
because I have more heart centered sensations than my brain. My brain's very active.
But when you're talking about energy, talk a bit about heart sense.
There's people who have developed applications ones called heart math. You can actually use
the heart as kind of a small brain to sense the people who were around
you, to since what you're doing, and so forth and so on.
Talk a little bit about the energetics of the heart and its importance in sensing
energy. Well, the first thing I want to share is I find all
of these apps incredibly curious. I think it's wonderful that people have the technology.
I think it's wonderful if apps help people. But the first thing I
say is, people save your money and learn how to connect to your own
vibrational system. Because for me, it's not just in the heart. When
I think somebody somewhere decided that the heart was a really beautiful instrument and that
maybe this is where our energy lies, it's kind of like somebody decided one
day that yawning meant that you were bored. So everybody thinks when you're yawning,
your bored, and I don't know where that came from. So I'm
not disputing that we have an energy system. We do, but I can't
really speak to the heart as that because for me, it's a system that
runs through our entire being, and I don't know that it has any central
location. I just know that there is the ability for us to we have
to take ourselves out of this because this is all so distracting to experience the
interior of who we are. So when we close our eyes, when we
go to quiet, there is a practice, very easy, unbelievable. One
of the reason I got the book, and this is indeed the book,
Raise Your Frequency, Transform Your Life. The acquisitions editor at In Our Traditions
said that it was the breath of life practice that sold him on the book
because he was a Buddhist for thirty years and couldn't stop his monkey mind and
picked up the practice and it was gone. So the breath of life is
a practice that takes us to have the experience of the soul level of our
body. So I'd love to answer your question, but I just can't because
it's not my experience that they're one enter. You're saying, right now,
it's the chakra system, one huge link, seven sinners, plus many others,
the aura, feel and so forth and so on. You're talking the
energetics and you're saying, I can't focus on one because they're one unified system,
right exactly. And the chakras, you know, And I had a
wonderful student lovingly corrected me the other day. She loves to call them truckras,
so we'll we'll honor her truck ras. So my and we've got many
of them. When I take students through truckra cleanses to clear out the portals.
These are portals in the in the field that you know, we are,
We project and we receive energy, so these are portals that clear it
out. Yeah, there's a system within our body that's the energetic system,
and the energetic system does all kinds of things, but it is just like
our body. You can't take the rain out of the system or the heart
out of the system without the system not working properly. It's the same thing
with our energetic field. So that's how I see it as one integrated field.
Yeah, it makes sense, but we don't have to tell them.
Yeah, yeah, we don't have time to go through the whole book,
but I do want to go through a couple of chapters because I think our
listeners will enjoy it. Chapter two is taking inventory, and I think this
is really critical because it tells you where you're at, what you need to
work with, and then you give some practices which I like. Talk about
what this means and if you can give us an example of somebody who you
worked with who realize where they are at and how that how you process that?
Ah, yeah, and everybody is very different. That's why the big
side. The first thing I will say is this is a book that can
last a lifetime because the work is like life time work, which does not
mean you don't see results. It means that we have so much to work
on, right we all do. There's so much to release while or changing
how we be. The chapter two is really important because we need to understand.
The book sets you up to realize they want this source wants you to
know where you are so that you can continue to work with where you are
as you go along in the book. So I had a student years ago
and she came to me through my photography business, and she was a wonderful
woman, we'll call her Sonya and not her real name. And Sonia had
two little boys and she had a huge photography business in New York. She
never stopped like having weekly teachings with me, which she wanted. Weekly teachings
for one hour was the only thing in her life she did outside of her
work and her kids. For herself. She was totally wiped out. She
was totally stressed. Her whole energetic system with the book calls a spiritual bank
account. Her vibrational level was wiped out when she started the day to begin
with. And she came to me and she was just her whole life was
successful on paper, but she was rushing from one thing to another and constantly
stressed and feeling absolutely no joy and absolutely no peace, and was really kind
of on the verge of a mental and emotional breakdown. And we worked together
weekly and the first thing I did was introduce her to the Breath of Life,
which is a breath practice that takes just a few moments, and I
brought it in to help her to create five minutes three times a day when
she would stop and excuse herself and go to the bathroom, literally put the
toilet seat down, sit on it because there's always a bathroom somewhere, there's
a hallway somewhere, and do the breath of life, and which brought her
back. And it's not just quiet time. Breath of life and I'm only
correcting you and pardon me, because it's different than quiet time. When we
do a breath of life, we're going into the deepest parts and everybody can
do this. There's not been one person I've ever taken through a breath of
life practice that has not immediately felt it and come out completely different on the
other side. And this is because the breath has been defined by Source and
I love this as the physical manifestation of our soul. So what we're doing
is we're changing levels. So let's look at it from a vibrational place.
She comes into this practice, she comes into this teaching totally wiped out,
very in lots of low energy. So she takes herself out of her day
where she's really busy, even if she's having great exchanges, even if her
shoots are going well, she's her brain is fried, she's full of anxiety,
and so she's taking herself out for five minutes and she's going into the
bath and putting the toilet sea down, sitting and doing the breath of life
for five minutes, coming out completely evened out, which goes back to your
question about balance, completely evened out. Her energy is evened out. Sometimes
she had to do it for ten minutes because she was that far off base,
but she'd come out and she does it three times a day. After
weeks of doing that, You're creating space in somebody's life for them to experience
what it's like to not be in the low frequency. You're creating an opportunity
for the student to see, not to see with their eyes, but to
have the actual experience. I am big on experience, and for her to
have the actual experience of what it's like not to have a racing mind,
not to be and how intoxicating that is. And after weeks of that,
you're starting to build space within a student for her to do more. The
willingness is there because you've created this space for her to have the experience of
peace for five minutes a day, three times a day, and then it
builds from there. Is that did that answer? Yeah? Yeah, that's
amazing. Now are you suggest that people need to change their frequencies and that's
the theme of the book. Is the workbook designed to remove the negativity,
recognize it, remove it, and then find balance through the practice. Well
what happens. Think of it this way. We always have the opportunity to
be in low frequency or high we just don't know how to get there,
which is what the book teaches us. In the third dimensional world, we
can't go upstairs and down at the same time. We can't be healthy and
sick at the same time. This is a quality of the third dimensional world.
We can't be in low frequency and high at the same time. So
when you're going upstairs, you're not going down. When you're going down,
you're not going up. You're in either in one place or you're in the
other. And it's the same thing with frequency. So when we recognize when
we're in low frequency, like so you know Sonia did, she would recognize
it and her alarm would go off because she set her alarm on her watch
for three times a day, and as soon as it went off, she'd
go and she'd change her frequency, and so then she is in high frequency.
She's not in low frequency. So we're not trying to alleviate it.
We're not trying to get rid of it. We just leave that field and
we enter another field through the breath, and once we're there then we know
it, we can feel it. Our thoughts are different, our emotions are
different, our exchanges are different. So it's it's leaving one field to go
into another, because that's what we do in physical reality. We go upstairs
or down. We stay healthy or we're sick, if we're out of balance
or uh not in the great the best frequency. What do we I mean?
Are we all out of balance? Or is anyone? Are we supposed
to come in physical form to work on? This? Is? This?
Is this our lesson? You have no idea why we're here. I just
think it's kind of glorious that we're here, and I think we have all
these opportunities to live life here. Better, let me share with you a
quote by Oh Show on balance, which I love and maybe maybe you'll like
this cliff as much as I do. So Oh Show set you Westerners amuse
me. I think that's how we started, you West. I always like
that you Westerners, amuse me? He said, you look at balance as
a noun as something to accomplish. Think of a tightrope walker when a tightrope
walker is on the rope, on the line, as they call it.
They're always going to the left, they're always going to the right, left,
right, because if they stayed static in the middle, they'd fall over.
And so that's the key. We're always in observation of how I am
an observation twenty four seven. As I'm sitting here with you talking, I'm
watching my state the entire time. I'm noticing when I get excited and I
talk more quickly, I'm slowing myself down. So I'm always witnessing as I
be, and so I can always learn to change my state. We already
do this. We change our state thousands of times throughout a day. The
difference here is now we have agency over how and when we change our state,
because our moods, what we call our moods, are really our frequencies,
and so they're changing all the time. And so now we have an
opportunity to choose how we want to be and to move into the frequencies that
we want. Tell me what a person in balance looks like, I think
it's more what they feel like. I think it's we know when we walk
into a room that's full of energy, like if you go into restaurants,
right, and there are some there are some restaurants that are really quiet and
chill, and there are some that like you know, you go to a
sports bar and there's TVs everywhere and people are happy and drink it, and
there you know, different energy. A person who is working to continually reach
and shift their balance, because I don't know that there's a balance to be
in. But a person who is conscious, a person who has worked to
have their consciousness lead the way, is someone who is quiet and reflective.
They can be happy, they can be talkative, but they're present. You
sense their presence. I'm an extremely present person, and I've cultivated that everybody
can cultivate presence should they choose. So I think a person who is conscious
and utilizes and connects to their highest frequency and uses it as a guide as
someone who is present. But I don't think it's unique. I think they're
present, they're here. I used to think years ago, you know,
when I was back in the day, when I was the mom and the
consultant and the cook in the gardener, all the things I did. I
loved being the queen of multitasking. I thought that was just like the best
thing. I got so much done, you know, and I will be
very clear, I get a lot less done now, but I seem to
still have a lot of free time on my hands in a very busy world.
So we don't multitask. As people who are present, we're fully connected
to what's happening here, Like I hear your words, I get your energy,
and this is all that exists right now for me. I love it.
And you're present too. I can feel your presence. So would you
say you're really present in this conversation. There's a part of me that loves
what you're talking about. And you're very eloquent in how you describe these frequencies.
But you're not Eastern philosophy wise, where you're giving using language that is
not typical for Westerners. You know, you're saying it like it is.
It's how you feel, it's how you direct it, it's how you understand
it. And then at some point with your workshop, with this book workbook,
I should say, it all comes together. And I didn't read enough
of it to know if you're asking people to do meditations, but it sounds
like you are telling people to quiet the noise. At some point and be
reflective internally. If you can do that, yes, but it's not the
media. And there are meditations in the book, but they're guided active meditations,
and what that means is their practices that we use to experience or shift
the idea of going to quiet completely. Sitting on a cushion is a lovely
act. Prayer is a love Everybody can do it, though well, it
took me years. And I think that you know you have, as you
said, a very active brain. I do tool and most of my students,
in fact, all of my students who come here have incredibly active brains.
And so the process of actually going to quiet is here is accessed through
breath of life first, because that's what trains us to be able to sit
on a cushion. But the work here is not about sitting on a cushion.
It's about what do we do in the ninety seven percent of our life
when we're not on the cushion, when we're not in the yoga center.
Because I love yoga, I do it every day. I meditate every day,
I go to quiet for an hour every day. I need to.
That's I'm a high vibrational person. I need to do that. It's very
important to me. But the work isn't about that. It's about how do
we lead our life when we're not on the cushion. Because I have met
many spiritual people, and I bet you have two who meditate and pray,
but who are totally out of alignment with spiritual values the rest of their life.
They're really still an ego a lot. So this book and and God
bless them, you know they'll find their way when they're supposed to. But
this book is about how can we lead the rest of our life from the
energies of love? How can we respond to all of the minor difficulties and
the major promise from love? Because that's where we get to experience peace when
we take this on as a daily practice as important as flossing our teeth.
As you know, eating food during the day is sleep at night. When
we take on understanding, meeting, being introduced to, and then accessing our
vibrational system, we have a pathway to peace. Because if every time a
piece of difficulty lands in our life and we choose to transform it, we're
not ignoring it, we're not stuffing it, We're using it as an alert.
We're noticing it and we use it as an alert to access and actualize
the high frequency of love within us, the divine light, and we work
from that energy. Then it doesn't matter what lands in our life, which
is why I say to you that, Yeah, was it tough to have
my entire life stopped and none of my plans to move forward in my life
happened? Was that hard? Yeah? But it didn't matter because I had
this whole other life with source where I was. I had access to the
divine and we have access to the divine every single day because that's what our
energy field is. But we need to learn how to do that. And
that's why I created a work because it wasn't enough to say those words.
I wanted to teach people how to do that, and I had. I
had actually stopped, Cliff, I'd stopped marketing the book after two years of
trying to market the book and no one was taking it published. Yes,
I had written the book and then I went to sell it. And it's
not unusual to sell a book for a couple of years, but this one,
especially when you're talking about energy fields, that is, you're saying people
don't even know about it. So spirit said, put it down and create
a work study program. So I did, and I took thirty people in
three different groups of ten through ten month programs. We did a chapter a
month and we'd come back and talk about the information and to see the changes
that people made in their lives were amazing. Yeah. The books called Raise
Your Frequency, Transform Your Life. My guess is, Selena Otrea, I
want you to give a us a couple of case studies of people who entered
your workshop and what you saw at the end of saying I don't know what
ten weeks, six weeks, and months, and give us an example of
the work one of the women. First of all, it was a group
of ten people that would come together and so they supported each other. And
I did that three times. So there were thirty people I put for this
particular work study program. It was a book club, but we would come
together and instead of talk about what's in the book, we talked about the
work we did with the book. So one woman is a CEO of a
company that was the first medical marijuana company in Maine fifteen years ago. Wow.
And when she and her husband started this company, it immediately became a
twenty four seven commitment where everything in their life was devoted to this, and
she happens to be a super duper brain oriented, brilliant woman. She had
started other companies, she had taken them, you know, to millions of
dollars in offerings, so she was putting a lot of time and attention and
she was wiped out. And by the time she started this book, she
was also she had absolutely no time herself, similar to you know, to
Sonia and within you know, she's she's quoted in the book as well.
Within I would say the first three months of this she had started to incorporate
the Breath of Life. She started to take other practices. She started to
recognize for the first time how off kilter she was. She didn't even know
how out of alignment she was. And so she started coming to the meetings
sharing with us the practices she was doing and the shifts she was seeing in
her life just in the very beginning, like her willingness to reassigned some of
her work to somebody else, which was a big deal. This micromanaging that
you have been doing because when you started business you probably know as I exactly,
and letting it out. So she was able to let go of things.
She was able to take her first afternoon off. Now, to anybody
else, that might be crazy, but this was a big deal. She
took four hours off within a week of doing this, and then she built
from there. So she started to create space. She has gone on to
continue to work with me one on one, and she is one of the
biggest proponents of this work because her whole life has changed. Her relationship with
her husband has shifted. They went to really difficult times working together and living
together, and they've been married for over thirty five years. Their whole relationship
has changed. So now she's in a place where not only is she different,
but her relationships are different. And that's what happens, you know,
because who we are vibrationally affect all the people around us, and they noticed
our changes and then those relationships which are built not just on words, but
they're built on vibration. Everything is vibration in our world, and so as
we start to work with the energies within our systems, we realize how absolutely
everything is energy and everything shifts, not just us, but our relationships.
I want to ask you about this energy because I'm totally focused on vibration,
But have you been to Egypt to walk into some of these temples, or
have you been to meet you site and experience the energy of these places.
I'm curious to hear what you've encountered. I would love to have said yes
to Egypt, because Egypt is someplace I am deeply past life connected to.
I have been to place, not to Egypt, but I have been to
places I've been to as a girl. As a young girl, I used
to get on my bike in the middle of the night and ride to the
episcour I'm Jewish by birth, and we didn't have the temple we had because
there were so few Jewish people and it was twenty five miles away and it
was a house. But the Episcopal church in my neighborhood, which was open
twenty four hours a day. I used to get on my bike and a
fifteen year old girl, fourteen year old girl and I used to ride there
in the middle of the night and sit there all night because my home life
was very difficult, and I just felt the sense of peace. I didn't
know then what I was experiencing. There's a place in Italy called Dom and
Her and you should look them up. I think you'd be everybody should look
them up. Dom and Her is northwest of Tarino, I believe, and
it is a community of people who live in oneness that's been there or for
over thirty five years, and they have built temples to the divine that are
exquisite and this day are the real deal. When I went to visit them
many years ago in Italy, it was an incredible place and meditating in those
temples were amazing. There was a church in Florence that I spirit directed me
to and I went there for three days and I couldn't read or speak Italian,
so I couldn't read the sign, and for whatever reason, Cliff every
time I landed there it was closed, and so on my fourth day it
was open and I had the most exquisite experience in a room in that church
where I was completely taken over by the light. So I've had a lot
of exquisite experiences, and they haven't all happened in those wonderful holy places.
They happened in a chair in the Upper East Side of New York when my
hair was being colored and seriously sitting there. So I'm not time. Yeah,
Okay, Dwellings. You moved to a place because you feel certain things,
and you you have healing. So the divine comes through the point being,
the divine comes through in lots of different ways, in different places,
when you're open to it, when you're open to it. Yeah, as
we conclude, I first of all, I know why you wrote it,
because you were guided to write it. But what do you hope the reader
gets from your book? I mean the fundamentals of it, yes, but
what do you what would be a blessing for you if you knew the reader
was getting a special area? Thank you for asking that question. I love
that the blessing is the opportunity for us all to learn that we have vibrational
fields within us that are not being accessed and used that can bring us to
peace because we have the agency over whether we experience peace or not. When
we're able to respond to anything with kindness and pete and the energy of peace
and compassion, any of the frequencies of love, we change that energy in
the moment and we become that energy. We were meant to use difficulty as
the opportunity to remember that we are loved, and not remember here, but
remember in our experience. So using the book and learning how to choose whether
you want to stay in the frequency and then how to move yourself into the
energy of love is what I would love everybody to do, because we are
living in a time of great upheaval. We're looking to build a new world,
and we need to be able to be in that high frequency to do
that wonderful, wonderful Raise your Frequency, Transform your Life. Okay, this
book has just come out. It's now on Amazon. Give us your website.
My personal website is Practical Spirituality with Selena, which is sel i NA
dot com. And yeah, and the book is Raise Your Frequency, Transform
Your Life and bookstores all over the world and Amazon, so yes, very
very accessible. Okay. And do you do private therapy? I do private
I don't do therapy, not a trained therapist, but I am a spiritual
teacher and I do. I work with students one on one and people can
contact me by just writing me an email Selena at selenamatraya dot com and we
can talk. Okay, And are you on YouTube because I would think that
your workshops would be great to see visually on YouTube. I have several channels,
several bodies of work on YouTube. And there's a beautiful piece called Insights
where I've taken teachings from the divine and sum them up in a phrase and
put them up there. So there's YouTube, there's Facebook, linked in Instagram.
We're all over and you do. Of course, during the pandemic,
everyone was doing zoom video communicating are you still doing that or are you rather
o? My students are all over the world, so I'm on zoom all
the time. Yeah, yeah, worldwide students. Yeah. Selena, congratulations
on this book. Thank you. I didn't get a hard copy. I
got months ago. Somebody said, I think it was inter Tradition sent me
a second edition, edited digital versions and it was like lives were crossed out
and stuff like that, which is fun to see because I write as well.
But I'm looking forward to getting this final book because it's sounds like a
fantastic addition to my books on frequencies. Well, thank you, Cliff,
and thanks for having me here, and also thank you for all the work
you do for all of us, because it's just incredible to have your show
to where you bring on people and show us all all the opportunities of education
that we have. Thank you so much for that. Really appreciate your work.
Thank you and the best of luck, congratulations, thank you, thank
you so much. You know, as I was listening to Selena, I
was thinking, all of this is so foreign to most of us because we're
not taught about this, We're not indoctrinated. And years ago, when I
started going down and visiting with Maya elders, they would talk about how their
ancestors would incorporate energy work understanding the energy field into a child's education. You
know, they would work with the priests who were specialists with incorporating energy,
how to feel energy, how to work with it, how to be well,
how to assess your day, how to improve yourself. And I think
it also applies to other ancient cultures. I'm not really familiar with the Egyptian
Dynastic period or the Chinese, but I do know the Maya and I know
other meso American cultures. Ancient cultures thousands of years ago understood energy in a
way we just are just beginning to appreciate. And I hope we don't have
to go through what she went through. Porcelina had to go through this,
this accident to come out on the other side and have this wonderful insight,
And you know, this is one This is a perfect book for us right
now because we are transitioning and we're done with the allopathic method of covering up
and esthetizing ourselves through drug therapy. And you know, pain relief, emotional
and physical pain relief. You know, you take a drug, it distract
it disturbs your metabolism, you know. And this is what I'm so sad
about is you know, you go to your you're MD medical doctor and they
don't know how to work with you other than giving you medicine. And these
are very powerful medicines that are just toxic to most of us. So it
was fun. It was fun speaking with her and get her book. Raise
Your Frequency, Transform your Life. It's not a long read, it's only,
you know, a little more than two hundred pages. Hey, summer
is here and we are talking about vacations. We have two tours coming up.
We have the Earth Ancient's Grand Turkey Tour is August fourteenth to the twenty
third. We will meet at Istanbul. This is a fabulous tour. We
just added a few new sites, including Carahan Teppi with these amazing sculptures.
We're gonna go to darren Kuru, We're gonna go to a number of world
class museums. We're gonna see Podocia, go Beckley Tepee. We're gonna see
stuff that I've never seen before. I have never been to Turkey, So
we're just about full. But if you'd like to join us, go to
earth Ancients dot com forward slash Tours, check out the Turkey graphic. Click
on the banner and you'll see the full line tenerary and you can register immediately.
That's the first tour. The second one is our Sacred Temples of Ancient
Maya, which is gonna be November eighth through the seventeenth. That is really
a one week tour of amazing sites. We're gonna do pyramid climbs, We're
gonna do temple visits, we're gonna do all kinds of great stuff. Both
of these tours are available at earth Ancients dot com forward slash Tours, and
if you have any questions whatsoever, go to Earth Ancients for you at gmail
dot com and let me know what you're up to. I want to mention
this too. We just got the information for our Easter Island tour. I've
already mentioned this a couple of times. It's going to be in March and
it's with doctor Edwin Barnhardt. If you're interested in that, send me an
email Earth Ancients for you at gmail dot com. I think we're almost full
with that one. I think see we're gonna max out at like twenty five
people. I think we're almost there. For any of our tours, let
me know by email and I'll get back to as quickly as I can and
go to earth Ancients dot com Forward slash tours for all the details, all
the information and to register. Summer is here. Okay, that's it for
this program. I want to thank my guest today, Selina Meltrea, Raise
your frequency, transform your life. As always, the team of Gail Tour,
Mark Foster and everyone who makes this thing happen. You guys rock all
right, take care, be well, and we will talk to you next
time at a