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welcome everybody to a very very special
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three of us Steve Hayward, John
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Woman of Mystery, and we are
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think it's going to be lots of
fun. We have lots on the agenda.

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Fortunately, we have a world renowned
legal scholar, constitutional scholar in our

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mits who is going to explain to
us all of the legal happenings of this

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past week, and so all of
us will leave here enlightened and understanding the

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world much better. Thank you,
so, John, how was your week?

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It was great. It's very very
busy. Let's see on Monday,

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the Colorado Supreme Court tried to disqualify
Donald Trump. So I was busy on

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that, writing and commenting on that, and then we had the Supreme Court

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just today issued a smack in the
face, a lump of coal in the

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stalking of Jack Smith, a special
counsel. So I've been busy commenting and

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talking about all that this week,
plus trying to do my scholarly work too.

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Can I ask you, John,
do you do you do you think

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think that I was surprised that we
got from the Supreme Court this quickly,

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the rejection of Smith's petition to weigh
in on Trump's criminal trial. Do you

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think the Colorado decision may have angered
enough justices of the Supreme Court? But

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they said, quit dumping all this
into our lap at once, And I

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mean, I think that's the decision
they were going to make anyway. I

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thought they were likely to reject Smith's
petition, but I didn't think they'd do

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it within two weeks. But I
don't know. If i'm the court right

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now, I'm I'm pretty grumpy about
everybody trying to force this onto their back.

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Well, first, okay, we
have our legal scholar here just in

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case people are not fully cognizant of
what's going on. Briefly, I think

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the Colorado one is pretty simple,
and we've had a lot of discussions about

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how the fourteenth Amendment might actually apply
in this particular case. But can you

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give us a wrap up on the
Colorado case first, please, John So

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Yeah, Colorado Supreme Court four to
three said that Trump was disqualified from the

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ballot under the fourteenth Amendment because he
had participated in some way in an insurrection

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or rebellion, and since he had
been Officer of the United States and January

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sixth, twenty twenty one, he's
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It was four to three decision,
although all seven justices are appointed by democratic

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governors. And oh, here's the
other interesting thing. The Colorados Supreme Court

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stayed its own decision, which means
that it's said, we will not put

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the decision into legal effect, so
that the process of printing the ballots and

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so on with Donald Trump's name for
the primary can go on. And there's

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plenty of time for the US Supreme
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I can't believe they won't, but
for them to hear the case and

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not have to worry about if they
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you'll have these primary ballots without Donald
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explain that it's actually the primary,
not the federal election. Would the Colorado

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Supreme Court have any jurisdiction over to
decide over who could be on the ballot

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for the actual general election. I
get a little confused about the whole You

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know, there's no constitutional US constitutional
sanction for parties, but of course most

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states have laws and constitutional provisions governing
parties, primaries, caucuses, and that

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sort of thing. Would they be
able to make that ruling if we were

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jumping ahead to the general election and
the ballots for the general election. So

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this is interesting. There's a difference
because, if you may remember, a

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few weeks ago, the Minnesota Supreme
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we don't have any power over primaries. Primaries are up to parties party that's

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how parties decide who they run for
the general election. Colorado different here.

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Colorado said the Colorado Supreme Court said, we have power over both the primary

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and the general election. And so
they said, since we just find Trump

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is disqualified under the Constitution. It
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Okay, and we have a question
quick about is the president and an

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officer? Because you've spoken on that
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about that? There's actually so there's
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and we haven't talked about the other
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is does the text of the fourteenth
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or is running for president. The
second question, which actually dissenters in this

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case in Colorado spend a lot of
time on, is doesn't Congress have to

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pass a law defining, for example, what's an insurrection. Doesn't Congress have

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to set a procedure to decide who
participated in insurrection? So this is a

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company called non self execution. Sorry
for the technical language. And then the

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third issue, and this is also
what the dissenters went off on, is

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how can you decide Trump's a insurrectionist
when he never there was no trial,

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he never had a chance to actually
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here just basically read the January sixth
Committee report and decided that Trump was an

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insurrection So on the first, I
think the first issue is the one that's

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going to be most attractive to the
Supreme Court, because if you do that,

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then you don't have to do any
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have to look at whether even January
six is an insurrection, whether Trump participated

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in it, if the constitutional text. I think the Calorad Supreme Court was

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wrong on this. The constitutional text
just doesn't say the word president as someone

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who's covered, and it doesn't list
the presidency as an office that you're disqualified

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for, just as officer of the
United States. And the reason why I

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don't think that phrase includes the president
is that the Constitution repeatedly in lots of

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other places, says president, and
then it says officer of the United States.

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In fact, the Fourteenth Amendment itself
does because the fourteenth Amendment says you

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can't be an elector for president if
you elector right, Yeah, an elector,

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right, So they use the word
president in the actual sentence. So

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it shows that the famers knew how
to put the word president. They wouldn't

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have just said officer of the United
States. Well, is the mean president?

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And one last thing, and then
the impeachment clause says you can you

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know you impeach presidents, vice presidents, or officers of the United States.

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It would be you can't read anything
in the Constitution to be a redundancy,

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and that's what the Colorado Supreme Court's
view does. It reads officer of the

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United States and President to mean the
same thing, so then it makes all

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those mentions of president redundant. Well, I think I read somewhere, maybe

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it was one of your articles,
John, that in the legislative history of

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the fourteenth Amendment, which is extensive
because that was a huge, protracted debate.

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But the president was I think name
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draft and removed. Yes, But
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it was removed or what arguments might
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But it seems to me the architecture
of it that you've just laid out

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as pretty iron plat. Now here's
the fly in the ointment is I've heard

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talk that the Colorado Republicans have said, fine, if this decision's upheld,

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we'll just have a caucus caucus instead
of a primary. Now that's definitely a

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party doing, you know, privately, Caucuses are done all around. How

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would the court possibly then keep Donald
Trump off the ballt in November. I

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suppose the same logic, they'd have
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Balt you have to be a whole
new lawsuit. Yeh, So I have

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to ask both of you then.
I'm sure you saw, as as I

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did. Numerous numerous commentators, both
in writing and the talking heads, talk

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about the fact that this all this
is going to do is propel Donald Trump

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forward even farther, and in fact, he's actually up even more in the

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polls. They're sort of death now
trying to pretend that Nikki Haley's within striking

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distance in New Hampshire. Oh oh, my gosh, I'm so excited.

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But really, I mean, are
if the Colorado Supreme Court had an agenda

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here, does it make any sense
for them to have pursued it the way

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they did. I guess I'm asking
both of you. I don't have an

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answer. I really I don't know
how leftists think, and I can't put

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myself in that position, so they
all just seem like morons to me.

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But oh hey, can I offer
an observation for John to reflect on as

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he ponders his answer your question.
It's been widely pointed out that all seven

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judges on the Colorado Supreme Court are
appointed by Democrats. The four it's a

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four to three vote. The four
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Ivy League law schools. The fourth
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is IVY League adjacent in some ways. I think the three no votes,

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not Republicans Democrats all went to the
University of Denver law schoo more evidence that

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we should refer to the IVY League
as the poison IVY League. I mean,

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I'm not surprised at all than Ivy
leaguers who spin off all these theories,

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but of course embrace this kakam Amy
theory of the fourteenth Amendment. But

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there you go. You know,
there's a lot of academic discussion out there,

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even some never trumpers. I've read
never Trump or never Trump or legal

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scholars. I think this is wrong
and think that Officer of the United States

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does not include the presidency in terms
of political agenda. I mean, you

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know, state supreme courts are more
political. I mean there's a plenty like

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in California where you actually vote for
them, right, they're actually run elections,

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so they're not as you know,
divorced from politics as the federal courts.

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So I'm not surprised if there's something
of a political agenda. This is

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a state that Trump lost by ten
points last time, and I can't think

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he's going to contest it. I
mean, it'd be a waste of Steve's

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the xterron is. I would think
it'd be a waste of king campaign dollars

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for Trump to contest Colorado. So
I actually think it wasn't political. I

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think it's actually a close question.
And I don't accuse the four in the

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majority of you know, being partisan
acts and the three in the descent of

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you know being you know, true
blue believers in the conscertion. I actually,

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I actually think it's genuinely a close
question. Really do I see?

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I think? But I think it's
obviously right that it's that does the president

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doesn't fall within the fourteenth Amendment just
based on the text. Well, that's

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not a close question. And is
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the twenty sixteen election and look at
the behind the scenes machinations to try to

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get electors to change their votes and
do all those other things, and Hillary

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Clinton continuously arguing that you know,
she won and you know, Russia,

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Russia, Russia. I was actually
at the Trump inauguration, staying in a

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hotel somewhat outside of d See because
I got the I got the tickets from

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my senator at the kind of the
last minute, and they I was closer

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to the gathering place of all the
women who were out there the day after

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the inauguration, you know where all
those twits got up there, burned down

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the White House. That whole thing. What was it was called something stupid

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about women, but I forget what
it was. Anyway, there was you

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know, there was lots and lots
of evidence that those people wanted to overturn

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the election. They came just as
close as anything that happened on January sixth.

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Where's the difference there, John?
I mean, but they didn't,

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are we going to get into They
didn't assault the Capitol Building. Actually,

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I was at the Capitol Building and
there were lots of people assaulting all around.

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And that's and the Capitol Building has
been assaulted other times. So I

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don't know that that's definitive anyway.
Sorry, I'll leave it alone. I'm

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just saying I don't if we start
going down the road of whenever somebody questions

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the outcome of an election, they're
an insurrectionist. That is light years different

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from seceding well and taking up barmies. I agree with you, you know

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that you know the answer to this. It's the old you know, the

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old cliche that I love, which
is, if liberals didn't have double standards,

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they wouldn't have any standards at all. I mean, yeah, I

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guess I'll do it quickly. I
mean, remember that, John, you

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were there, Downtown d C in
November twenty twenty was boarded up. The

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whole downtown was boarded up. And
why that wasn't because they're worried that Trump

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was going to win. Was that
Biden was going to win the election.

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They thought that Trump was going to
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there going to be a lot of
trouble there. I mean, what happened

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on January twenty, twenty seventeen,
was you know that that the irony that

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immigrant had his limousine burned on the
street, and you know, lots of

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store windows smashed and it was disorganized, but mostly peace. You know,

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That's that the famous CNN person twenty
twenty did. But look, I do

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think though that you raised the question, and John, you second it that

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people saying gosh, this helps Trump, except there is lucretia. You directed

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my attention to this snap poll by
the YouGov people, an online poll showing

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that a majority of people say they
think the Colorado Supreme Court decision is probably

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right. Now. I'm very skeptical
as to the quality of the poll and

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the depth of that opinion on the
public, but that certainly is an odd

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thing. My explanation is, courts
are, especially anything called Supreme Court,

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starting with the US Supreme Court,
is still the highest relative measure tallest building

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in Wichita time, is the highest
government institution in public respects. Still these

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days, everything else is in the
dumps. And you know what my explanation

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is for just it really quick.
Yes, sure, give me pussy hats.

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I forgot that. Sorry, that's
exactly who they were. Yeah,

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right, So this is my explanation. I have a you know, I

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run a program, a political science
program, undergraduate political science program. But

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it's a transfer only program, so
we only got juniors and seniors. I

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had to institute and fake an upper
division introductory American government course because juniors in

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college did not know the three branches
of government. Juniors in college did not

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know the three branches of government.
There are idiots out there, and I

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think you GOV managed to find every
single one of them. Maybe they're more

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sophisticated than you think, and they
think there's four because they forgelo the administrative

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state where they think there's three chambers, like our good friend AOC. There's

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week with Creche. I should have
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mean, I think it's a really
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sixteen, you know, conservatives or
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any political violence. Twenty twenty,
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but you point out twenty six seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenty there was a

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lot of you know, leftist violence, a lot of leftist rioting, and

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you don't see the same kind of
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know the thing, I don't know
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to you, but I think federalism
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happened in liberal blue cities and the
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they chose to let those riots go
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people. You know, there were
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that op ed that caused all the
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know, he had You know,
there were people urging Trump to activate the

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National Guard and send them into the
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Justice Department the ability to prosecute people. But he chose not to for whatever

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reason. What about like when they
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and whatnot, is that still within
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was Portland. Yeah, well Portland, there was and I thought the Justice

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Department was going to go after those
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you're you were suggesting or maybe just
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bias by the Justice Department. But
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was the Attorney General, and to
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are people who who's running TI Trump, TI Trump, you know, deep

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state Justice Department. This was a
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chose not to bring these kinds of
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minute, you have to take this. There's a good reason, I'll put

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it this way, for people to
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justice from our national government these days. So remember the Ted Stevens case from

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all the way back in two thousand
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in the Wall Street Journal that caught
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guy that we're apparently getting back from
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is all about the federal judge chastising
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I think there was not ideological,
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my point is is that you and
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come on, you know the chief
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Hudson student. It was Cheneese chief
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the thing is, and I don't
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Rudy Giuliani verdict this last week for
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I mean, that's more money than
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in a product liability suit if you
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point is that I don't think I
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A is I think there's good reason
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neutrality of our justice department in large
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DC? And I think the answer
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make a distinction, but you can. When you say political, I think

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there's two different meanings. And so
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the sense that they involve questions of
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I mean, we elect a president. The Constitution gives a president the

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job of carrying out the laws.
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that when you choose a president,
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cute and what not to prosecute.
As hard that's political. But what I

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resist is the idea that it's partisan
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Harment goes after Republicans harder than they
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thing is just unprecedented to that,
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you had reversed things. Suppose Trump
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left and you have the twenty sixteen
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about, and leftists like Antifa and
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Capitol and stop the electoral count I
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those people just as hard on the
same theories. I think you're absolutely wrong

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about that. You don't have a
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the evidence that might lend some credence
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the Justice Department has done since then. Never mind the malicious prosecutions of January

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sixth, but going after people like
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after parents in school boards and calling
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that they're no longer partisan. They
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being wholesale pushed through the prosecutorial powers
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left gets what it wants. I
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the you know, you have the
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not explain how corrupt our Department of
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imagine that there are good people in
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part, they've gone to the Ivy
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schools, and they're they're present company
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and they don't see that they're not
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way. So that far out agree
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the nth degree. And that's the
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or not. I mean, I
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people in the Department of Justice,
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they don't think they're ideological, they
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like fish in water. It's become
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mean, what is the Nixon complained
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about how the civil service as a
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That's a huge problem. It's the
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right, you have the absence of
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that would say, hey, wait
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against Ted Stevens. Gee. You
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who were trying to intimidate senators and
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think any of them ever saw an
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prosecution. And that's what I think. Why and then people say, gosh,

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why do people not trust the government? You know, threats to democracy?

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So we had a back and forth
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sort of leave it with this because
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Supreme Court case. We've had a
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But I want to leave it with
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how I left it with John,
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take a bird's eye view of everything
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starting with the p dossier and the
Russia Russia Russia hoax and the scams with

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the FAISA warrants, and spuying on
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and on and on and on,
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Trump somehow managed to win anyway,
and they just doubled down on their

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efforts to try to destroy Trump after
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happened. Hunter Biden's been under investigation
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in jail for years. It's just
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John is, and this is probably
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I don't know if you could say
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I probably think like a blonde.
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there are two sides to this.
There are two. I think. I

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actually find that you think like a
hit man sometimes my my sorry hit woman,

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hit woman, my pronouns should try
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what John, what I believe in, what John doesn't see from my point

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of view now trying to be pick
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only there are only two sides.
There may be a few nice people low

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down in the Justice Department or the
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are not exactly partisan hacks, really
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part, we have we have a
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are two sides, and everything that
happens against Trump is not just about something

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happening against Trump. It's for the
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to ensure that the left remains in
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to the fullest extent of the law
and beyond the law, as we're going

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to see in the Fisher case,
anybody who participated in January sixth in any

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way, because what we can't ever
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the left one, whether Democrats want
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two sides to that. If you're
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really think that fraud happened. I
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You're on their side. That's what
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left side. Yes, absolutely,
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Sorry, Steve off just says one
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congressman whose name I've thankfully already forgotten
after I wrote it yesterday, who made

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a Republican yeah right, who voted
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for John who voted to impeach Trump. He was one of ten Republicans and

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he's scandalized by the Colorado Supreme Court's
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that idiot? How does he not
see that his bypart isan't vote to impeach

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Trump on the flimsiest stupidest of charges, was in fact helping out the left

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and is part of the entire agenda, the entire movement, that the entire

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program, whatever you want to call
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constitutional government as we know it.
So tell us about the Supreme Court case.

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I'm actually in the middle on this
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there isn't a deliberate, conscious,
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do these prosecutions so that no one
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because you're not gonna be able to
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maybe this is a more serious way
of thinking about it. Trump terrifies them,

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and January sixth terrified them because it's
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riot the streets and smash them glass
of windows, But when you know when

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you have a large number of Americans
descend upon the capital that shook them to

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their core, and and then the
fact that Trump's still out there, going

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to run again, and of course
they're they're way overwrought. I mean,

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you know, even friends of ours, like you know Bob Kagan, who

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John and I know a little bit, and and other people know Trump's going

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to be a dictator. I mean
literally think he's going to be Hitler or

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fascist, which is completely ridiculous.
But I think the real motivation of this

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is they're that terrified of Trump,
which is just as good. Anyway,

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people are asking John about the I
have a Ukraine question two from two weeks

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ago, which we can defer,
but people want to know about the Supreme

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Court case today. John Smith,
Ky, we'll do that before we talk

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about you care. Yeah. So, uh yeah, this is a Trump

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win and another loss for Jack Smith
the Supreme Court, which makes him oh

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for two, because you remember he
unanimously lost his effort to go after the

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governor of Virginia a few decades ago, where lost he lost unanimously. Yeah

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yeah, so the court. So
it's a small change, but actually it's

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a small legal thing. But I
think it has big political consequences, which

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you guys would know better than me. Which is all the court did was

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to say, we're not going to
allow this case, the one about whether

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Trump is immune from criminal prosecution over
the January sixth attacks, whether that Jack

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Smith wanted to leapfrog the normal process
of appealing to an appeals court and then

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from there going to the Supreme Court, even though he won. By the

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way, so normally when you in
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trial court, the trial judge said
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He wanted to go right to the
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Although he never explained why. He
just kept saying the case was really important,

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which it is, but he didn't
explain why the rush. And the

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court today just gave it the back
of the hand, didn't even issue an

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opinion, just issued a one sentence
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denied. What does that mean in
practical terms? So, in practical terms,

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the case has to go up to
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called the d C Circuit. Here
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court in the Supreme Court both and
then that'll take time, right, You'll

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have writings of briefs, you'll have
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you have that could take that process
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I could see that happening in two
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incredibly fast. And then if Trump
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the Supreme Court and say I would
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I think the political consequence, though, is that it seems really hard to

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believe this trial could start in March, because while this is all going on,

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since this would dispose of the whole
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immune, all trial proceedings have stopped. So I don't I think the consequence

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is that this case has to go. This trial can't start till the summer

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at earliest, and maybe not even
till the fall. Well, I want

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to question Steve, and then I'll
let you go ahead. The question is,

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so it's a wouldn't a bigger win
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Court to take it on and actually
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done that? John? Oh?
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ultimate Yeah, you know, if
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would have been the court where grants, sir, hear the case and say

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Trump is immune. But I have
a hard time seeing them doing that all.

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The Supreme Court is never actually held
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prosecution later by the federal government,
but there's a lot of lower court decisions

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00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:22.880
and stray comments from Supreme Court cases
in the past makes it seem like presidents

408
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.599
are not immune. So if you
think that's what the court's ultimate decision is

409
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:29.839
going to be, I think putting
aside whether how you feel about Trump or

410
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:33.000
not, I think that's what the
court will do just as a matter of

411
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:38.000
law. If they do that,
then Trump's strategy makes a lot of sensuis

412
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:44.920
is just to push it as far
back into the calendar as possible. Unlike

413
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:47.519
the Colorado case, where he wants
to speed things up right, get the

414
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:51.000
Supreme Court to decide as fast as
possible so he can go back on the

415
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:55.000
ballot. In the criminal trial,
his interest is to just delay it as

416
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:57.799
long as possible. But I think
this is really polpful. But this is

417
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:04.759
interesting because that means means maybe this
criminal trial gets started after the primaries,

418
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:09.000
but before the general election, right
right, which I keep saying, raise

419
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:14.079
is the remote But in these days, what's implausible anymore? A specter of

420
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:17.759
a campaign with one candidate locked in
his basement, another candidate locked in a

421
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:22.400
jail cell. Oh, by the
way, there are a couple of the

422
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:28.160
you know, usual wacko MSNBC lefties
saying that Trump is Trump should be held

423
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.559
in jail and pre trialed attention because
you know he's so such a danger.

424
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:35.799
So uh well, a question of
history, John, It wasn't the Nixon

425
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:40.559
tapes case decided on accelerated argument in
the summer outside the usual term of the

426
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:45.240
Supreme Court. This is actually how
right? Yeah? I actually think this

427
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:47.720
shows why Jack Smith. I mean, there's many reasons why, but this

428
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:52.119
is a I think an important reason
why he should not be the special counsel

429
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:57.720
is that he's really playing to the
gallery. He didn't have real reason to

430
00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:00.400
try to accelerate this case unless it
really was because he if he was going

431
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:04.119
to say this, but he never
said this to the court. His theory

432
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:07.799
must be I want to get a
verdict in before the end of the primary

433
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:09.559
season. I don't even think that's
possible. That could be his reason.

434
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:15.880
That's but what they did publicly was
to end his allies were to compare this

435
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:20.279
to the Nixon case. Right.
He wants this to sound like Trump is

436
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:24.359
like Nixon. And in the Nixon
case, there was this leapfrogging of the

437
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:28.480
Supella Court, the d C.
Circuit, and the Supreme Court. And

438
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:31.400
this was about whether Nixon had to
hand over the Watergate tapes to the Special

439
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:35.640
Council in that case. And I
think I went back and looked, and

440
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:39.519
in that case, it really took
the Supreme Court. It's incredible took it

441
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:45.279
was able to take the case up
and then issue an opinion within about two

442
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.839
months. Oh that's that, Okay, I thought it was. But even

443
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:52.079
so it still would have even if
they took this case and had decided,

444
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.559
it still would have thrown the trial
back because that would have meant that the

445
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:58.720
Supreme Court would decided in March at
the earliest, and so you'd still need

446
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:01.759
time. Ok So I'm going to
bring in really quickly a couple of comments

447
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:06.599
and not keeping up with them because
this is too interesting to keep going on.

448
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:10.280
But Stan asked in the chat,
John, what about Eugene Vollocks argument

449
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:15.239
that Jack Smith has no standing because
he's only a private citizen. I don't

450
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:22.239
even understand that. But actually there's
this question about whether Jack Smith is actually

451
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:30.400
properly appointed and whether he's allowed to
be to be representing the United States government

452
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:34.119
because he's not actually a government.
This is really interesting. The Court when

453
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:38.400
it denied today this is interesting.
Actually, three never Trumpers, I think,

454
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:43.320
actually filed a special brief on this
question and said this free court should

455
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:45.800
just deny this case because Jack Smith
is not really a prosecutor. The whole

456
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:52.639
special Council things on Constitutional Court didn't
mention that today, but that's an interesting

457
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.960
thing, or his particular, the
whole, the whole, the whole system

458
00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.760
is unconstitutional by the way. I
mean, we're I'm saying one more thing

459
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:02.800
about the fact that it was a
one line rejection today, John, I

460
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:06.000
mean, I guess that happens a
lot. But I know that's a lot

461
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.119
of high profile cases. If there's
a justice or two who wants to hear

462
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:13.599
the case, they quite often file
the scent with the order and we'll give

463
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:15.679
a paragraph or two argument about why
the case and that didn't happen today,

464
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.119
which I think is very priling.
You know, I think that is telling

465
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:21.400
you. Actually, one of the
justice I think who likes to do that

466
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:24.360
the most is the one I clerk
for Clarence Thomas he Alto. Does it

467
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:29.119
something too right? Yeah? Yeah. They use it to flag issues which

468
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:32.960
they hope will come back again,
and they're showing sympathy for the case to

469
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.840
be brought. But here, as
you say, Steve, No, I

470
00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:42.360
think I think that shows that this
court, even maybe some of the Democratic

471
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:45.679
point justices, do not want the
Supreme Court waiting into the twenty twenty four

472
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:50.960
election, right, They're thinking long
term, you know. I this is

473
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:52.280
why I think is going on with
this case and the caller. That's how

474
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:58.079
That's how I explain the Supreme Court
acting fast and early in the Colorado case

475
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.440
while doing what they did to day
and letting the criminal case go on a

476
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:06.880
slower track. Is in both cases
the Supreme Court then doesn't have to be

477
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:10.199
the one picking who gets to run
in twenty twenty four. That's what they

478
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:14.800
right, that's what they I think
that's something that we unite all of those

479
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:17.599
justices is let the people decide what
they think about Trump. You know,

480
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:21.840
we're not going to be the ones
who decide Trump's an insurrectionists, and we're

481
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:23.159
not going to remove them from the
ballot. The people can decide that.

482
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:25.679
Yeah, well, as I speculated, I think it was mey a week

483
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:30.280
ago or two weeks ago. If
Trump is the candidate and loses the election,

484
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:32.000
then the Supreme Court doesn't have to
deal with this and that would make

485
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:38.840
life easier, which is nothing exactly
right. Okay, So David's iPad is

486
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:45.280
obviously a smart ass because David's iPad
says, I hear that Jack Smith is

487
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:51.320
married to Rachel Maddow. No,
and the reason we know that that's not

488
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:58.840
true unless Jack Smith is somehow a
trans man. Rachel Maddow swings the other

489
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:04.159
way. Really, yes, oh
yeah, yes, And it's not it's

490
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:07.039
not like I'm outing her. It's
you know, it's sort of widely known.

491
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:12.800
It's public information, right, it
is public information somebody somebody that I

492
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:15.960
mean about how Jack Smith resembles one
of the NFL starting quarterbacks right now,

493
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:20.320
so you know, prosecutor by week
NFL quarterback by weekend, something like,

494
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:24.280
I don't know. Don't be engaging
in lookism. Yeah you want to talk

495
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:30.760
about that, I do, I
do really quickly. It's okay, it

496
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:36.440
needs to be quickly, so I
want people to I don't want to brought

497
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:38.639
this up, but go ahead,
okay, I just want to really quickly

498
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:44.119
before we move on to the next
When I make fun of someone's looks,

499
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.920
it is generally because I'm making fun
of their soul, and they have a

500
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:54.400
lousy, rotten, ugly soul,
and there's usually a connection, you know,

501
00:37:55.519 --> 00:38:00.239
in the in the good old days, before Nihle and so forth took

502
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:07.280
over, we actually celebrated beauty.
But what I find is that ugly leftist

503
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:13.559
people purposefully make themselves ugly. Like
I'm sorry, but I'm gonna say it.

504
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:17.519
Claudine Gay, She's probably not all
in all, if she wasn't such

505
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:21.920
so deep, you know, like
you're a mean one, mister Granch.

506
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:24.119
Your soul is full of gunk.
I think of her every time I hear

507
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:30.480
that song play, because she's just
She's an awful person. But the left,

508
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:35.880
and especially the feminist left, has
moved into this place where the last

509
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:39.800
thing they ever want to do is
try to appear to be beautiful attractive.

510
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.519
They do everything possible. Clouding Gay
shaves her head and wears these nasty,

511
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:52.000
stupid looking glasses that I don't know
anyway, I don't understand all that and

512
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:59.719
goes out of her way to be
anything but a feminine woman. And okay,

513
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:01.760
that's fine. But if I'm not
allowed to make fun of that,

514
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:09.599
then hey, I won't make fun
of somebody who's disfigured, sort of plain

515
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:13.760
or unattractive, but I will make
fun of somebody who goes out of their

516
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:15.639
way to look ugly. And so
there we I mean, isn't what you're

517
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.519
saying. I think as I understand
what you're saying, is there is kind

518
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:22.559
of what I call a look on
the left, and part of it does

519
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:27.360
connect the philosophy. Right. They
want to be transgressive, they want to

520
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:32.039
reject the standards of beauty of the
patriarchy, and you know, culturally determined

521
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:37.639
gender roles right. And I mean, I think of something Roger Scrutin said

522
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.320
to me one day that inventially startled
me, but then I got to thinking

523
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:43.760
about it. The Roger, by
the way, I should back up and

524
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:46.119
say, you know, he's written
a lot about everything, but a lot

525
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:52.280
about esthetics. And aesthetics used to
be a significant sub field in academic philosophy,

526
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:57.239
and it has disappeared almost everywhere altogether, yeah, and that's because it's

527
00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:00.360
thought to be too subjective or whatever. It's just died. Well, we're

528
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.559
walking along on campus one day actually
was Colorado, and he spent a few

529
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:06.280
days with me in Colorado. When
I was there ten years ago, the

530
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:09.960
big fashion for the young ladies on
campus, for many, not all of

531
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:13.760
them, but for a lot of
them, was to wear the mirrored sunglasses.

532
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:16.360
Now, it didn't bother me.
I mean, I remember mirored sunglasses

533
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:21.400
were big when I was learning to
ski back in the seventies. But it

534
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:24.079
is true that you can't tell what
anybody's looking at behind mirrored sunglasses. And

535
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:28.440
he used a particular word about it
I thought was interesting. He said,

536
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:32.320
that's an aggression, and I thought, I don't quite understand, you know.

537
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:35.400
I asked him, what do you
mean an aggression? And he said,

538
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:37.159
well, you can't see their eyes
that they were looking at. There

539
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:40.599
is that you know, it's it's
like a veil of the eyes, which

540
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:46.079
is one of human beings, but
especially women, one of their most important

541
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:51.199
features. And anyway, he was
really put off by that. Oh that's

542
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.719
an interesting observation, and it sent
me back to I'll stop there. Well,

543
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:58.480
it's fine, Michael says, if
you could be a stunning blonde,

544
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:00.840
you live it. If you are
not attractive, how do you get attention?

545
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.880
So you still love to watch this
show called Franklin and Bash and there

546
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:10.400
were two attorneys. John heard the
show Rash Attorneys, and it was a

547
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:15.400
comedy. It was funny as hell, but in Los Angeles. But there

548
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:23.079
was this episode where uh, the
assistant to the CEO was fired by the

549
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:30.159
daughter of the CEO. And she
came to these attorneys and claimed that she

550
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:34.559
was fired because she was too attractive. She wasn't. She was kind of

551
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:40.440
dumpy, she was kind of overweight. There wasn't you know, she didn't

552
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:45.079
have any of this sort of traditional
and the whole place was just it was

553
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:50.199
like a playboy mansion. Every woman
who worked there was just the most attractive

554
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:53.440
woman you'd ever seen, except for
this one dumpy woman. But through the

555
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:59.000
course of the show, what they
did was they showed she had so much

556
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:07.119
confidence in her herself that she just
made everybody around her in love with her

557
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:10.320
and think she was attractive. So
Michael asks, how do you get attention?

558
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:16.800
It's I believe that it comes from
deep in your soul, and so

559
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:22.360
ugly people like Rashida Talib. She's
not. I've seen a picture of her

560
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:24.559
too, where you know you don't
want to throw up when you look at

561
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.760
it, but then I remember who
she is, and I still want to

562
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:29.679
throw up. Well, now,
all right, let me ask you.

563
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:34.559
I just throw in the thought just
so I think I agree with something both

564
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:39.960
of you are implying, which is
those college presidents and college administrators and professors

565
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:45.639
and students, they're looking that way
intentionally. They're not like just slovenly.

566
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:51.280
They're adopting. They're adopting a certain
look. And I don't think there's anything

567
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:54.840
wrong with that except the guess ex
that they want to look like they didn't

568
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:59.880
care, but they do care.
And one air you see that all the

569
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:05.599
time is in law. When you
have trials and you're picking the lawyers that

570
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:08.320
you want, of course you consider
the gender and whether they're attractive, and

571
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:13.760
how they look, their race,
all kinds of things because you want to

572
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:16.360
get sympathy from the jury. Right, So all right, so you you

573
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:22.280
it's not you would be guilty of
malpractice if you didn't think about those issues

574
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.719
when you pick who's going to do
certain kinds of things. In a trial

575
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:30.239
because you want a certain look to
appeal to your constituency. In there that's

576
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:34.440
a jury, and in the academy, these people look that way because their

577
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:38.679
constituency are these administrators and faculty who
prize this appearent this kind of look.

578
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:44.800
Now, right, I think it's
all intentional and it's unfortunate that it's unattractive,

579
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:49.519
but it's not. It's it's utterly
deliberate. Yeah, and I'm sure,

580
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:53.599
I'm sure there's college presidents when they
testified in Congress, they had consultants,

581
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:58.519
I mean, whoever, by the
way, who There's all these story,

582
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:02.559
great stories within the belt about who's
responsible for screwing up which law being

583
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:09.159
firms of law firms advise them because
many people saying this was the worst Congressional

584
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:15.440
hearing like ever that one's ever seen
in terms of witnesses. From the perspective

585
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:17.760
the witnesses, I'm sure they gave
them all kinds of a vice about what

586
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:21.000
to wear and how to look and
how to act, and it was a

587
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:25.960
total disaster because America doesn't like the
way that college presidents act now and how

588
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.639
different professors are. Let me say
one last things, and then it's time

589
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:35.559
to change a subject. But I'm
finding John Fetterman much more better dressed and

590
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:40.000
attractive lately. I'll just leave it
at that. Well, we all,

591
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:44.760
we all, we all, we
all know you've always had a hankering for

592
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:53.519
bald, large white men. Careful
there, Well I do, I do.

593
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:55.920
I haven't ask a question for you, Lucretian on this. I do

594
00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:58.920
want to ask you about it.
I think, what is a tough A

595
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:00.559
tougher slightly tougher case. But in
some way we talk about a lot.

596
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:06.400
But I did run back to the
famous article the American Spectator from forty years

597
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:07.320
ago. It's amazing. I can't
remember wh my car keys are, but

598
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:12.559
I remember articles from forty years ago
by the famous Taki who wrote an article

599
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.519
about why Jane Fonda was the ugliest
woman in America. Forty years ago,

600
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:19.760
Jane Fonda was at the peak of
her fitness craze. And she's not unattractive,

601
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:24.559
right, A very pretty woman.
I had her damn video roobics video

602
00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:29.880
I can't imagine. Well, here's
one sash from the article that I think,

603
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:36.519
cannot imagine you doing aerobics. Oh, here's one sentence from the article.

604
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:37.840
Because I went back and found a
fragment of it. And I think

605
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:43.599
this christ blizes the point. Take
Jane Fonda and Shirley Maclain. That harshness,

606
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:47.559
those granite stairs, the shrillness of
their rhetoric. It makes one want

607
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:52.440
to shriek at their ugliness. Doesn't
mean literal ugliness. It means that it's

608
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.320
about It's about feminism, right,
That's what's really ultimately gets down to feminism.

609
00:45:55.719 --> 00:46:00.639
But the creation I mean here,
you know, so what do we

610
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:07.679
call Jean Cree John Kream, Pierre
Jean. I actually think she's a pretty

611
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:13.760
attractive woman, and then she dresses
colorful hair, she's got pretty skin,

612
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:17.239
and she's got a good figure.
She wears pretty dresses or she just has

613
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:23.039
aircraft carrier for her hair dube.
Okay, but but but it fits because

614
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:28.840
you know, she's got inside the
mop she's got you know, sort of

615
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:32.960
something holding the hair on. And
that's it. Yeah, so moped mophead

616
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:38.599
is not really intended to be lookism. I just you know, it's just

617
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:44.840
I'm sure this was so it'd be
so un pc now, but lucreatious comment.

618
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:50.159
Did you guys ever watch the Fat
Albert cartoon series by Bill Cosby?

619
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:52.639
And there was a fact, a
guy with a big afro when he was

620
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:57.920
constantly pulling whatever you needed at that
second out of his hair. Right,

621
00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:00.400
well, the key, the key, Yeah, like the key that you

622
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:07.679
needed to open the door, or
like food soot. Steve was trying to

623
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:14.559
gently sort of move me away from
my lukism and into more intellectual pursuits.

624
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:19.079
I accused him of sexism, I
said, because nobody complains when you call

625
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:24.280
John carry lurch, or when you
make fun of Jerry Nadler and his you

626
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:30.800
know belt that comes up to hear, because you know, nobody, nobody

627
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:34.840
has even that second thought. But
if you call Cloutine Gay or Rashida to

628
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:40.760
leave ugly, which they are,
you're somehow cheapening the discourse and whatever else.

629
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:44.840
I don't know. It just doesn't
make any sense. I mean,

630
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:49.400
but isn't that an appeal. Isn't
that double standard rooted in an appeal to

631
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.039
you know, patriarchal and no manners, right, I mean, old fashioned,

632
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:58.440
gentlemanly manners. I don't know,
I don't you know. I buy

633
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:02.559
your explanation, Lucretia, but I
do think it undermines the substance of critique.

634
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:06.880
Because Christine Gay is wrong for so
many reasons, there's no need to

635
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:08.679
mention the way she looks. I
mean, she's a plagious now. I

636
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:13.039
mean I feel like such a chump
because I clearly worked as an Asian.

637
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:15.199
I worked too hard in college.
I should have just been stealing stuff from

638
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:19.519
people. Why did I ever do
any original research at all? I mean

639
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:24.519
I worked for you twice as well
as Claudating Gay. I mean, so

640
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:32.679
you know this woman who wrote the
pieces from whom Claudy Gay played, That's

641
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:37.000
what I was gonna say. But
you know, she's a I actually don't

642
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:39.400
know if she was conservative at the
time she wrote these law review articles.

643
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:45.079
You know, she wrote about you
know, the Voting Rights Act and you

644
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:47.519
know, the new kinds of districts
that were being drawn, and whether blacks

645
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:52.199
are getting more representation in Congress.
She's become quite conservative, I think now,

646
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:54.559
but back when she wrote the articles, I don't know if she was.

647
00:48:55.960 --> 00:49:00.840
And she says, this is not
just like simple miss quotation that Clentigate

648
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:06.800
copied whole pages like page is long. I mean, that's just outright There's

649
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.480
no way you can defend that.
That's just outright plagiarism. If it goes

650
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:13.519
on for that long. It's not
like a sentence here or a sentence there.

651
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:17.159
Well, I think the most embarrassing
thing here is not necessarily I mean,

652
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:21.480
the pleasurism itself is bad on its
face, but when you think about

653
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:24.719
it for a minute, what it
really tells us is how unimportant and unoriginal

654
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:28.679
Gay's work is. If her work
had been sort of promised, this would

655
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:30.440
have been spotted years ago, and
it would have been as scandal years ago.

656
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:36.320
But nobody cares about the stuff she
wrote on your race questions. I

657
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:37.480
mean, we know that so many
of these articles are written not to be

658
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:42.920
read by anybody, and so that's
even more Larry, somebody pointed out,

659
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.480
Larry Summers, say what you want
is a very important scholar, and he's

660
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:49.800
published a pile of books, and
you know, the hundreds of articles and

661
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:52.840
treasury set. People think he might
win the Nobel Prize and you cannot watch

662
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:54.360
someday, you know, ahead of
the World Bank. And it's like and

663
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:58.800
then Claudia Gays published eleven articles,
half of which are plagiarized, and all

664
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:01.639
the rest about subjects no one takes
seriously except the woke. Okay, there's

665
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:06.199
no there's no like my test is
very simple, which is, is there

666
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:09.039
any kind of thesis that you can
associate with this person? You know,

667
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:14.480
like, is there like the you
know, is there like the Hayward thesis

668
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:19.079
about Reagan? Or is it right? Like, there's no theory or thesis

669
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:23.320
that's associ because she even the article
she wrote or so they're just descretive,

670
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:28.519
right, Yeah, they're derivative descriptive. They make no interesting, challenging argument.

671
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:30.960
Carol Swain has written, you know, wrote that long piece. I

672
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:35.119
know her. I've been to things
where her. I found it compelling,

673
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:37.360
like I found it conclusive and damning. Actually, she wrote one of the

674
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:43.599
early books fifteen years ago on white
nationalism, which was not a leftist screen

675
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:46.559
but it was like, in other
words, analyzing and predicting all the things

676
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:51.760
that suddenly everybody was interested in when
Trump came along. Well, I'll give

677
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:53.039
you my summary for the week,
and then I want to do one more

678
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:57.039
of a common theme before we run
out of time. Who's in charge here?

679
00:50:57.320 --> 00:51:00.880
Yeah, well I'm usurping the I'm
can see if I get away with

680
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:02.480
this, John. My summary of
the week was, let's see what we

681
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:07.119
got here. We have gay sex
and the Senate gay plagiarismal, Yeah,

682
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.000
don't wonder the left last year trying
to get ahead of all this with their

683
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:14.159
their slogan of don't say gay.
You know that whole thing out of Florida,

684
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:23.440
Right, John, Where did you
read about or hear about now the

685
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:31.320
second episode of filming gay porn in
the Senate? Where'd you hear about it?

686
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:37.400
I don't remember. The reason I
asked is I saw a bunch of

687
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:39.199
people on Twitter saying if you didn't
see it on Twitter, you didn't see

688
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:42.480
it, and I just no,
no, it was it was like in

689
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:45.400
one of the newsletters. I think
it was like I, I, you

690
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:49.719
know, lucreature is really gonna dump
on me now. I read the Politico

691
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:53.960
usually Politico newsletter in the morning.
I think it was yeah, it was

692
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:58.239
extending. It was actually in Politico. Okay, yea fair enough. That's

693
00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:00.880
where I thought I read it.
And the second one, I guess,

694
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:04.440
and then I think I got it
from the gay porn newsletters I sign up

695
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:08.840
for ten Yeah, yeah, yeah, well you know opposition there much better

696
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:15.440
photos on Politico. I'll tell you
well, you know, I I was

697
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:19.599
trying to do a common thread today
with my questions about January sixth. Then

698
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:24.360
also Lucretia volunteered on lookism and I
want to revisit one aspect of Ukraine.

699
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:29.440
And here's here's the common thread,
which is, you know, we get

700
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:31.519
tangled up a lot, the three
of us on questions of fact. Is

701
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:37.400
it true as the Wall Street Journal
says that of the Russian army has been

702
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:40.719
degraded, they've lost half their tanks. As a true British intelligent British intelligence,

703
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:43.559
I know, But the point is, you know, it's hard to

704
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:45.239
know what's going on in the battlefield
and how corrupt are they on a scale

705
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:46.880
of one to ten, and a
lot of all the rest of that,

706
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:51.039
and those are important things, but
we can easily get bogged down on disputing

707
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:53.559
those. I want to raise questions
of judgment. That's why the question about

708
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:58.639
January sixth, there's a reason why
people distrust this, and the serious reason,

709
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:01.800
you know, look is not about
whether you find somebody physically attractive or

710
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:08.639
not. And then on Ukraine,
lucretia'sism. Lucretia's okay, just to be

711
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:14.360
where we're deficient at this John,
because okay, on Ukraine, the question

712
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:19.320
of judgment was this, let me, first of all give the give the

713
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:21.639
question that popped into my head a
week or so ago, which is,

714
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:24.000
how come you know we're hearing constantly
from the left there has to be a

715
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:29.400
ceasefire in Gaza. How come no
one is calling for a ceasefire in Ukraine

716
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:32.519
except actually someone is. You know, Victor Orbon has been calling for a

717
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:36.440
cease fire and his allies in Eastern
Europe, but he gets all the attention.

718
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:40.400
Victor Orbon has called for a ceasefire
in Ukraine for since nearly the beginning.

719
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:43.960
And of course what people says,
well, you're pro putin. You

720
00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:46.760
know that that was a favorite putin. None of the left saying that about

721
00:53:46.840 --> 00:53:51.639
ceasefire in Gaza, that it would
be pro hama. Actually the Biden administration

722
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:57.000
people do to their credit rhetorically,
at least to their credit. But then

723
00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:04.639
the judgment question is this. I
ran across a Sarah Berlinsky substack, you

724
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:06.800
know, Claire's in Paris, and
I used to have a crush on her

725
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:12.079
until she became kind of I think
she kind of lost your way. But

726
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:16.360
she had an article posted on her
substack by some European named Nicholas Tenser,

727
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:21.320
and he had two sentences to share
with you, and then I'll pose the

728
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:24.679
question. He wrote this, It's
quite simple. If the United States stops

729
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:30.039
giving Ukraine military aid, it won't
be able to keep up the fight for

730
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:34.760
long. Europe, which is far
from having grasped the scale of what a

731
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:39.880
Ukrainian defeat would represent, has not
taken the necessary precautionary measures to be able

732
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:45.480
to replace the United States, even
if only partially and for a few months

733
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:49.000
now. My point in reading that
is not to do the adult truth.

734
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:52.679
That's all fault true, true,
And this is my point about a question

735
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:57.320
of judgment. You mirthfully, but
I think half seriously accused Lucretia being a

736
00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:01.239
neo conservative a few weeks ago debate
US bait her especially. I'm so old.

737
00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:05.760
I remember a time in the late
eighties when the neo conservatives were saying,

738
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:08.480
you know, one of the problems
with Natos that exists today is that

739
00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:14.360
we are subsidizing the European welfare states. This is like completely foreign to what

740
00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:17.360
we think of as neoconservatism in the
last fifteen years. But the social health

741
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:20.480
things change, and they were saying, you know, we really ought to

742
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:23.239
threaten that threaten. They weren't quite
the way Trump did it. But they

743
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:25.440
say, we've got to change this. This is bad, it's bad for

744
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:30.159
Europe, it's bad for us.
That seems to me even more operative today.

745
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:36.400
And so I guess what I'm asking
about here is it seems to me

746
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:40.039
that whether you're pro Ukraine or not
worried about some of the issues that Lucretia

747
00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:44.719
raises, we're going about this all
wrong. I'll just put it that way.

748
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:47.239
That's the nice way of putting it. I can put it a hard

749
00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:52.880
shall what's your questions, Steve,
Well, my question is is that we're

750
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:58.320
my assertions more than the question is
that we're totally blowingness from whatever point of

751
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:04.360
view you want to have. I
mean, if you think so, no,

752
00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:06.559
no, no, so, I
think you could say there's a short

753
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:09.400
term, mean term along. I
agree. The long term what we want

754
00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:14.239
is Europe to pay for more of
its own defense and for us to have

755
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:19.679
to bear less of that burden Ukraine. And the long term doesn't help that

756
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:23.239
because the Europeans, you know,
they could, they are, they've made

757
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:28.760
promises to start spending more on their
defense. But you know the bigger countries

758
00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:30.519
like Germany, you know, Germany
is really the key has not have not

759
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:35.039
come through. Yeah, this is
this is something as you say, Nel,

760
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:38.480
this is something that Nixon was talking
about and Kissinger there was a Remember

761
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:43.840
there was something called the Nixon Doctrine
which was designed to engage a burden sharing

762
00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:46.519
with all this around the world,
Asia and Europe. So this has been

763
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:51.320
something that American foreign policy has not
been able to figure out. But we

764
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:53.599
got to do it. We have
to. It's almost it's like the Europeans

765
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:58.960
are addicted, right, they have
relied on us for so long that we

766
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:02.599
have to figure out to reduce our
commitment to Europe again payper. But this

767
00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:06.840
that doesn't mean in the short term
that you cut off Ukraine. I mean,

768
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:08.800
you know, that's you know,
that doesn't necessarily follow. I mean

769
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:14.559
the short term seems to me is
destroy the Russian army, which we're doing

770
00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:17.760
pretty successfully, even though the Ukrainians
are you know, suffering and dying and

771
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:22.679
they're very brave, but no Americans
have had to die in this and we're

772
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:28.559
just spending money. It's had the
great effect because of advancing the Mangold NATO.

773
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:31.360
Remember the main gold NATO was to
stop the Russians from coming into Europe.

774
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:35.679
So if we have the effect of, you know, reducing the combat

775
00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:40.079
effectiveness of the Russian military fifty seventy
percent, whatever the number is, it's

776
00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:44.480
a bargain. That's a short term. Once you can do that, then

777
00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:47.440
you can start figuring out, how
do we get NATO to reform, how

778
00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:52.159
do we get the Germans and the
French and all those countries to pay more

779
00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:54.639
for the defense, and how do
we right Because I do I I mean,

780
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:58.559
I do think the main threat to
the United States is China and we

781
00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:04.440
have to rebalance. I mean,
so you essentially acknowledge my premise, which

782
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:08.679
is we've been talking about this problem
for decades and nothing much happens. And

783
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:12.039
you know, if you do want
to compare it to an attic, I

784
00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:14.920
think that is a good analogy.
Sometimes what you have to do in attic

785
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:17.800
is cut them off. And it
seems to me that this is an opportunity.

786
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:21.039
By the way, who knows what's
going on behind the scenes. That's

787
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:23.000
the other thing that you know.
I know, historical research is sometimes things

788
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:27.159
are happening that we don't learn about
until years later. I doubt it with

789
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:30.880
the Biden administration that, yeah,
I have all this cleverness and I have

790
00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:34.719
no part of my problem is I
have no confidence in them to prosecute any

791
00:58:34.760 --> 00:58:37.880
coherent strategy. But leave that aside
of what's unknown, then you know Rumsfeld's

792
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:43.440
phrase, maybe this is a time
for us to say to Europe, Okay,

793
00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:49.880
a year from now, if you're
not matching us two to one in

794
00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:52.559
a the Ukraine, we are out
of here and you guys are on your

795
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:53.039
own. I mean, I'm not
trying to put it that way, but

796
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:58.719
you know, I think at some
point this is a time for I hate

797
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:01.079
that they're pretty lot of They are
putting a lot of money into it.

798
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:06.079
It's just not money that's relevant to
winning the war immediately. In Ukraine,

799
00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:09.239
they're putting a lot of money into
the non military, non right non lethal

800
00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:14.880
assistance. They still rely on us
to right to provide the main munitions,

801
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:17.800
weapons systems and so on. I
mean, for example, Germany has a

802
00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:22.239
lot of tanks that they could supply. They're kind of supplying some, but

803
00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:25.280
they had to wait till we decided
they weren't going to do it. But

804
00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:30.000
there's this great can I throw this
great line, there's a great line about

805
00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:32.599
NATO. And the great line was
said, of course, buy a brit

806
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:37.760
because there's it's their language. So
he said, the point of NATO is

807
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:40.760
to keep the Russians out, the
Americans in, and the Germans stands down

808
00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:45.760
now, and so yeah, we
should think more, you know, we

809
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:49.800
should think harder about, you know, whether we want the Germans to really

810
00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:54.559
have a large effective military. But
right, that's the Russians out and the

811
00:59:54.599 --> 00:59:58.440
Americans in. I think are still
valid goals for NATO. We just want

812
00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:02.320
us to pay a little less for
Yeah, yeah, I don't have no

813
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:06.719
comment. It's Christy, come on, what do you well, what do

814
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:08.559
you what you want us to pull? So this is an actually an interesting

815
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:13.440
constitutional question, right. I didn't
realize this, but apparently Congress slipped into

816
01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:17.880
the last National Defense spill that the
president cannot terminate the NATO treaty. Yeah,

817
01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:21.800
I mean, would you go so
far as saying, as Trump has

818
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:24.840
talked about, that we should actually
withdraw from NATO and let the Europeans just

819
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:30.559
no, no, not at all. Okay, good, but that's not

820
01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:36.880
there's so much complicated there. Let's
try to keep let's just keep it to

821
01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:43.480
Ukraine. Ukraine is losing the war. Zelenski wants five hundred thousand additional recruits.

822
01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:46.079
Those recruits are going to come from
guys your age, John, because

823
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:51.760
there's nobody else left there what they
are doing, I want them to be

824
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:57.239
Steve's age, but yeah, sure
that'll happen to wait. So that's a

825
01:00:57.239 --> 01:01:00.760
way to reduce social spending. I
called I have a Medicare card. Sorry,

826
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:02.880
I know, it's like, that's
a good way to reduce social security

827
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:08.199
Medicare spending. Russians are treating the
Ukrainian soldiers better than the Ukrainians are.

828
01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:16.679
If Ukrainian soldiers the words surrender,
white flag, surrender to the Russians are

829
01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:21.199
treating them great. On the other
hand, if the Ukrainians are finding out

830
01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:27.760
that Ukrainian soldiers are surrendering, they're
bombing them, They're killing them. And

831
01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:31.199
I mean, the whole thing is
so ugly, and the whole reason for

832
01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:38.880
us being against Russia is so thin, so anorexically thin. I'm thrilled to

833
01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:46.440
death that Congress went home without providing
another scent to Ukraine. I saw something

834
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:50.519
today that the Biden's going to do
something. Biden administration is going to do

835
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:55.400
something sneaky and awful in order to
get that money behind the scenes flowing somehow

836
01:01:55.559 --> 01:02:00.719
back to Ukraine again because they can't
wait around for Congress. But across a

837
01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:02.400
student alone, I think it'll be
a student And no, it wasn't that.

838
01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:06.559
I'm just forgetting exactly what it was. It was sneaky and corrupt and

839
01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:12.119
the usual Biden thing. But why
do you suppose so many people are are

840
01:02:12.360 --> 01:02:17.159
losing their support for the Ukrainian war
when it used to be the most popular

841
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:22.559
thing. You went on Twitter and
everybody had a stupid Ukrainian flag on their

842
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:25.519
avatar. And you know, when
we were in Italy together, I don't

843
01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:30.039
know if you saw the every day
on the you know, in front of

844
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:34.880
the Duomo, there was some sort
of pro Ukrainian protest or whatever going on,

845
01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:39.360
and it just makes me sick.
Well, other people are starting in

846
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:45.239
very large numbers to embrace the Lucretia
view of the matter. What yeah,

847
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:49.400
actually, I'm actually I actually wanted
to ask about this. I don't understand

848
01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:53.440
why the polls have shifted so hard
against Ukraine. Where okay, so it

849
01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:59.519
costs one hundred billion dollars, no
more so far, that's a drop in

850
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:02.320
the bucket compared to our defense budget
or you know, a federal budget where

851
01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:07.519
we're clin to run a trillion dollar
deficit pretty soon. I think it's a

852
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:12.360
bargain. And no Americans have died. We're destroying the Russian military. I

853
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:17.000
agree. I don't actually understand why. Americans, and actually it's a partisan

854
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:21.480
thing, right, because it's now
a large it's a super majority of Republicans

855
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:24.079
now don't think we should keep floating. Yeah, that's what I saw them

856
01:03:24.119 --> 01:03:28.760
last one. And Democrats, it's
a supermajority of them are supporting Ukraine.

857
01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:31.159
As you say, it wasn't like
that at the beginning. But I don't

858
01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:36.280
understand why actually Republicans have turned so
hard against the Ukraine war. It's such

859
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:40.320
a gush. I think it's the
Biden corruption, it's the Ukrainian corruption.

860
01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:47.360
It's the fact that there doesn't appear
by Putin to be looking for some sort

861
01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:52.840
of expansion or anything like that.
Okay, but but when you read in

862
01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:57.639
those rags that you read John that
we're decimating the Russian army, that's not

863
01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:01.480
true. We're decimating the eighty army
and it's decimated, no doubt. I

864
01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:08.280
mean, the British Intelligence Service thinks
that ninety percent of the of the person

865
01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:13.199
who started the war. Well,
they've replaced the replaced them. See now

866
01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:18.280
we're back. I know details you
didn't want to talk about it, but

867
01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:23.719
I mean the estimates are that they've
suffered from two hundred thousand to three hundred

868
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:28.639
thousand battle casualties. That's incredible.
This is an enormous victory. This is

869
01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:31.800
fact to where we are are quarreling
about which facts are true and which are

870
01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:34.159
the relevant things. But even if
it was have that, it would still

871
01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:39.760
be a great pargain. Okay,
I think there's reason this is. Let

872
01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:43.400
me introduce two. I think why
this is happening goes back to two fundamental

873
01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:45.800
things. One is Americans don't like
long wars, even if we're not fighting

874
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:50.159
them. John, I think that
connects the second point, which is Republicans

875
01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:55.480
I think have for a while now
been reverting to the historic mean, remember

876
01:04:55.559 --> 01:05:00.719
the Republican Party was historically it's too
strong to say they're isolatedationist, but you

877
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:04.440
know, Robert Taft righted, they
were skeptical, yes, and and you

878
01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:08.280
know, I mean if you look
again at what I was reading very carefully,

879
01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:11.719
my mentor Stan Evans, who was
very much an old right kind of

880
01:05:11.800 --> 01:05:15.320
guy, just beneath the surface,
you could see that he thought that the

881
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:19.159
Cold War and the Soviet Union was
an exception to what ought to be an

882
01:05:19.159 --> 01:05:23.559
American rule of not having a lot
of foreign tanglements, very much the old

883
01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:27.880
Washington's farewell address. So we're reverting
to that now, I don't I mean,

884
01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:32.119
I I have a hunch that if
they were Republican president, if Trump

885
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:34.519
had still been an office and the
war started, I think it wouldn't have.

886
01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:39.159
But never mind, we don't know. I think that there'd still be

887
01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:45.679
a higher level of Republican skepticism about
the war than there is Democratic skepticism because

888
01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:46.920
you think, actually, can you
say so? You think the Cold War

889
01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:50.039
was an exception, yes, but
then you also think the reaction to Vietnam

890
01:05:50.159 --> 01:05:55.519
was an exception because after Vietnam it
was the left that was isolationist. Yes,

891
01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:58.559
And if it had been for the
Republican Party, I don't think we

892
01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:01.519
would have win the Cold War because
we and have maintained the strategy right,

893
01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:04.360
because if the Democrats had gotten their
way after Vietnam, we would have pulled

894
01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:08.800
out of everywhere. I know that's
correct. I think there's a lot more

895
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:14.719
to be said about that. The
left, The lefts hate. The left's

896
01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:18.239
dislike of NATO and the you know, the Cold War was because they were

897
01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:24.880
leftists and they decided they hated the
colonial pressers right here the Israel on a

898
01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:29.039
global scale. For Republicans, it's
in their DNA to say, wait a

899
01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:30.800
minute, this is a mistake economically, I see, I disagree with it.

900
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:34.039
One hundred billion dollars of dropping the
bucket, you know things. What's

901
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:38.400
the old everd Dierksi line updated on
A hundred billion? Here a hundred billion.

902
01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:43.800
There is real money, right,
I think that's question though, Okay,

903
01:06:44.199 --> 01:06:47.639
I actually I would take it back
to what Steve asked way back when

904
01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:53.719
at the beginning of this conversation,
and that is, why do we demand

905
01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:58.039
a cease fire? I know not
everybody is, but there's enough. There's

906
01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:01.599
enough, even people within the Biden
administration. And again, okay, here's

907
01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:05.800
here's a confession. I was actually
pleased by what b Lincoln had to say

908
01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:09.280
about it the other day. Whether
he believes it or not, I don't

909
01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:13.559
know. But he was very pro
Israel, very pro We've got to destroy

910
01:07:13.679 --> 01:07:16.920
himas and credit where credit is due. I just want that John Kirby guy

911
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:20.239
has been spectacularly good in the statements, I have to say, sorry,

912
01:07:20.760 --> 01:07:24.320
I throw one. Maybe you're right, but I have I thrown one more

913
01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:28.119
factory issue because I just looked up
at the Treasury Department. I know the

914
01:07:28.199 --> 01:07:31.000
creature is not going to leave what
they say. But in this last year,

915
01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:36.880
we spent six trillion dollars and we
brought in four point four to four

916
01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:41.920
trillion in taxes. So the deficit
was one point seven trillion last year.

917
01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:45.679
And in just twenty twenty two to
twenty twenty three, the deficit increased three

918
01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:49.280
hundred and twenty billion dollars, So
one hundred billion dollars. There is a

919
01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:53.559
lot of money in there. That's
this a rounding error when our budget deficeit's

920
01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:56.800
one point seven trillion dollars. Okay, but you know what, this is

921
01:07:56.880 --> 01:08:00.400
how we got there. John was
exactly that, thank you. Well,

922
01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:03.639
I'm sure we're wasting the money and
all kinds of domestic spending, but were

923
01:08:03.639 --> 01:08:11.400
destroying the Russian army for one point
one trillion dollars. I help soldiers get

924
01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:19.359
food stamps. I help American soldiers
get food stamps. Think that one through.

925
01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:23.600
When you're talking about your hundred million
dollars to the corrupt pieces of you

926
01:08:23.760 --> 01:08:28.000
know what in Ukraine. Okay.
The reason though, back to my point

927
01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:34.520
that people are starting to get upset
about it as they see the the hypocrisy

928
01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:43.000
of demanding a ceasefire from Israel and
just bundling money like it's going out of

929
01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:47.119
style, and knowing most of it's
handing up for another yacht or another house

930
01:08:47.239 --> 01:08:53.640
for Zelenski and its top people,
and maybe not all of Maybe we shouldn't

931
01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:57.159
be thinking of those things when we're
thinking in global terms, you know,

932
01:08:57.399 --> 01:09:01.039
the big picture. But people are
seeing it and they're starting to say,

933
01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:06.039
yeah, and what about that whole
corrupt thing with Biden and Ukraine and getting

934
01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:12.319
that prosecutor fired and bragging about it. And it's starting to come together for

935
01:09:12.439 --> 01:09:15.920
a lot of people that maybe there's
a lot more going on. Russia is

936
01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:18.479
not looking to take over Europe.
We don't have evidence of that. It's

937
01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:24.199
not the Soviet Union. So maybe
these same people who don't know that there

938
01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:28.079
are three branches of government are still
capable of some common sense looking at this

939
01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:31.359
and saying we have no business being
there. None. None is saying the

940
01:09:31.520 --> 01:09:36.439
money none. Can I just say
that some of those stories about the Zelensky

941
01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:41.319
houses in Palm Beach and the yachts
have been debunked as you know, disinformation.

942
01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:47.479
But by snow saying that, I'm
not saying Ukraine is I'm saying that

943
01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:51.760
Russia is going to do this tomorrow. But your logic would mean suppose Russia

944
01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:56.560
We're going to invade Poland, you
wouldn't care. You'd be like, fine,

945
01:09:56.600 --> 01:09:59.800
let the Poles fight for themselves.
Nothing to do with the Poles.

946
01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:03.840
Russian invade, They're going to get
their nose bloody because Poland is spending big

947
01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:08.479
on defense. Yeah. Yeah,
but we, according to Lucretia's logic,

948
01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:14.119
we wouldn't care if Russia invaded Poland, Hungary, Germany. I mean,

949
01:10:14.119 --> 01:10:15.720
it's just not our fight. Why
do we care? Can I at this

950
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:18.600
point waste of money for us to
help defend them? Can I at this

951
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:23.560
point? Yes, begin to draw
a veil over this to the moment by

952
01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:28.560
paraphrasing the famous money Python scene,
Let's not get worked up about who killed

953
01:10:28.600 --> 01:10:36.439
who? Can't we have some Christmas
here? Can't it? Isn't it?

954
01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:44.199
Yes? Maybe it's because the soft
woman's side of me just can't stand it

955
01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:48.319
to read the horrific stories coming out
of Ukraine. And again the horrific way

956
01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:55.840
that the the Ukrainian corrupt government treats
their people and treats their soldiers and leaves

957
01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:58.560
them to die. And it's far
worse with the Russians are doing to the

958
01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:03.399
Ukrainians civil popular though. I mean, the stories about the Russians have been

959
01:11:03.439 --> 01:11:09.479
doing in Ukraine to the civilian population. I believe those have been debunked a

960
01:11:09.479 --> 01:11:13.479
whole lot more than the Zelensky corruption
story. Well, all the all these

961
01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:18.039
mass graves of people in these villages
and Ukraine is all made up. You

962
01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:23.600
don't believe that. I don't.
I never know what to believe anymore.

963
01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:30.239
I become a shoe leather empirisist,
does I you know? Okay, But

964
01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:32.560
this is why I try to recur
to questions of judgment about the grand strategy

965
01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:36.239
of the matter and not let it'll
sounds like you say, not let the

966
01:11:36.279 --> 01:11:41.680
facts guide my decision. That's not
what I mean. You know you're right

967
01:11:41.720 --> 01:11:45.720
about that negotiated settlement. Let's just
let me ask you that question. Why

968
01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:49.000
not let why not encourage that could
be in the end we do, Yeah,

969
01:11:49.079 --> 01:11:53.119
that could be in the end what
we do because it is a it's

970
01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:56.680
a stalemate right now, and it
may be that in the end it is

971
01:11:56.960 --> 01:12:00.680
it's going to be like North and
South Korea or something where Ukraine loses like

972
01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:04.680
one eighth of its territory to Russia. That doesn't turn out too bad for

973
01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:11.600
Ukraine actually in the long run.
Yeah, and again those borders are somewhat

974
01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:15.520
poorous to begin with. Those lines
are not ancient. And uh, anyway,

975
01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:19.720
I don't want I want to talk
happy Christmas stuff now because I'm I'm

976
01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:24.720
in the mood for happy Christmas.
I don't want to fight with John anymore.

977
01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:26.680
To know, no one's going to
believe that, But go ahead and

978
01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:29.800
give it a dry true I love
Christmas. I love Christmas. By the

979
01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:34.079
way. The reason I told Steve
my favorite Christmas song far and above everything

980
01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:41.000
John, is Snoopy's Christmas. You
know why? It has everything it has?

981
01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:44.319
Of course, it has all the
great Christmas themes, Peace on Earth,

982
01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:46.079
that da da da dad. But
you know the story, right,

983
01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:48.880
do you do? You know?
Snoopy? I've just seen this. I've

984
01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:51.680
seen the Snoopy Christmas, but I
don't remember the music. No, no,

985
01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:56.399
no, this one's this is a
war song. So Snoopy's Christmas.

986
01:12:56.800 --> 01:13:00.279
That's why she likes it. The
Red Baron. It's in World War One,

987
01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:04.359
you know, and Snoopy right on
his house, his doghouse. So

988
01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:11.439
the Red Baron's out flying and he's
killing, you know, Allied pilots all

989
01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:15.520
over the world. And so they
call on Snoopy because he's their best pilot.

990
01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:18.479
The Allied forces call on Snoopy to
do it again. And he goes

991
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:24.319
out and he gets and it's forty
below and he has eyes on his wings

992
01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:28.119
and the Red Baron spies him and
he's gonna shoot him down, and Snoopy,

993
01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:32.840
you know, knows this is the
end. And then the baron doesn't

994
01:13:32.920 --> 01:13:38.800
shoot and pushes him behind enemy lines
on the Rhine. Okay, and then

995
01:13:39.039 --> 01:13:41.640
he gets out. Snoopy, sure, he's just gonna shoot him or whatever.

996
01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:48.920
And the baron walks out with two
glasses of champagne and says, Merry

997
01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:56.000
Christmas, my friend, and Snoopy
and he they toast each other. They

998
01:13:56.039 --> 01:13:59.600
get back, they fly away in
their planes, knowing they'd meet on another

999
01:13:59.720 --> 01:14:03.039
day. It's like the story of
the First Christmas in the trenches of World

1000
01:14:03.039 --> 01:14:08.560
War One, exactly, John.
And it's in Snoopy's Christmas and it's my

1001
01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:12.880
Christmas. I've never seen that one. Yeah I heard, I don't know

1002
01:14:12.960 --> 01:14:15.600
that they ever did a video of
it. But Steve will play it at

1003
01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:18.479
the end as the exit bumper music, won't you, Steve, I will.

1004
01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:26.319
I've been this week. I can. I can no longer get away

1005
01:14:26.600 --> 01:14:32.680
with uh, with uh putting these
guys up. I love the way,

1006
01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:35.079
Well, who are the people in
the middle who are ruining the wrath of

1007
01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:40.159
kan this way? It's Genesis.
See I've been doing that to annoy you

1008
01:14:40.279 --> 01:14:44.239
guys. Yeah, Sele's now I'm
in the position of the guy at the

1009
01:14:44.319 --> 01:14:48.079
bottom, the con at the bottom. I don't believe you put Genesis the

1010
01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:53.000
band with Genesis from Raches mostly do
annoy Lucretia because I've you know, we're

1011
01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:57.520
doing this for she doesn't know what
either of those are. I like Phil

1012
01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:00.600
Collins. Yeah, see this is
the all right, We're not going to

1013
01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:03.079
do that. I'll tell you what. I'm thankful for it because it's really

1014
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:08.199
fun. Is the United States set
a record in oil production this year,

1015
01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:12.720
the largest oil production country in the
world. We have said to Biden,

1016
01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:15.560
that's the fun part, you see, is that despite this just shows you

1017
01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:20.680
how brilliant our fossil fuel energy sector
is that even with all the hostility of

1018
01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:25.880
Biden, they were able to set
a record for oil production and it's shattered,

1019
01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:29.119
opek. And imagine what we could
do if we didn't have a hostile

1020
01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:32.279
administration? Right, Really something It
should be said that most of this is

1021
01:15:32.279 --> 01:15:36.840
occurring on private land or on old
legacy offshore oil leases and so forth.

1022
01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:41.039
And you know, eventually, if
the Left has their way, they'll strangle

1023
01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:43.600
all that too. And you can't
build a pipeline anywhere, et cetera,

1024
01:15:43.640 --> 01:15:46.479
et cetera. But what an amazing
thing. And as I was saying,

1025
01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:50.039
I won't go on too long because
at some point, John, it might

1026
01:15:50.079 --> 01:15:55.920
get us close to that certain statute
you can't mention on the show. If

1027
01:15:56.119 --> 01:16:00.880
Washington had known fifteen years ago that
the fracking and oil rev Remember John Carey

1028
01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:02.800
used to say, and obrac Aloma, we can't drill our way out,

1029
01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:05.720
We can't drill our way out.
Right. Guess what? We drilled our

1030
01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:10.680
way out. And they never say
that anymore. Remember they mocked Sarah Palin

1031
01:16:10.720 --> 01:16:13.800
for saying drill, baby, drill. Well, if they'd known that this

1032
01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:16.439
technological revolution was leading this they surely
would have stopped it, but it all

1033
01:16:16.479 --> 01:16:21.640
happened quietly, mostly on private land, and was faya complete and what an

1034
01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:26.880
amazing So yeah, I mean that
revolution is just getting started here and around

1035
01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:29.880
the world. So oil is here
to stay. And it's really fun because

1036
01:16:29.880 --> 01:16:32.800
we just had only stupid sort of
fuck cop meetings. But anyway, okay,

1037
01:16:32.960 --> 01:16:35.680
John has an important dinner to get
to, so I have to give

1038
01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:41.119
a lead into the first Babylon Bee. I just finished teaching a con law

1039
01:16:41.199 --> 01:16:44.560
class, had about two dozen students
in it. And I don't know if

1040
01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:48.119
you guys ever told this joke as
professors about you know this semester. Wow,

1041
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:51.560
I had ten grandmas because you know, students would try to get out

1042
01:16:51.600 --> 01:16:56.199
of doing their work by claiming that
they had a dead grandma. Right,

1043
01:16:56.439 --> 01:17:00.880
some of them had fifteen dead grandmas, nice sort of thing. Well I

1044
01:17:00.359 --> 01:17:03.920
didn't have a single, not one
single dead grandma this time. What I

1045
01:17:04.039 --> 01:17:09.520
did have was half of the class, literally half of the class, at

1046
01:17:09.560 --> 01:17:15.399
one point or another, claim mental
anguish, emotional anxiety, or depression as

1047
01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:20.760
a reason not to turn in their
assignments. Oh that's ridiculous, isn't it

1048
01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:25.720
ridiculous? So that's ridiculous. There's
more to it, but I won't share

1049
01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:30.159
more of that right now, just
because we're over time. But my first

1050
01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:34.119
babylon be then to follow on that
is parents take gen z kid who doesn't

1051
01:17:34.199 --> 01:17:43.479
have anxiety or depression to therapists to
find out what's wrong? Is that?

1052
01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:49.119
Since you are up on the news
about the goings on in the Senate chambers,

1053
01:17:49.239 --> 01:17:55.760
John god agrees to fair DC from
destruction if he finds just ten staffers

1054
01:17:56.119 --> 01:18:05.880
without a gay sex tape. Sorry, last one for this week. Investigators

1055
01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:12.439
beginning to suspect Clauding Gay's novel Larry
Potter and the Sorcerer's Rock may have been

1056
01:18:12.960 --> 01:18:19.000
plagiarized. You have a camelism.
I believe I do, But wasn't there

1057
01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:26.760
Also some someone was sending around a
babbylon b headline about Colorado ordering Jack Phillips

1058
01:18:26.840 --> 01:18:32.039
to make a cake to celebrate this
qualify Trump from the ballot. Charles Libson

1059
01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:35.399
did that one? Yes, that's
very funny. The most popular one,

1060
01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:40.560
it's a little old though, but
really quick was Trump declares if he wins

1061
01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:47.439
presidency, he will legalize running over
bicyclists. Yeah, that's right that one.

1062
01:18:47.760 --> 01:18:57.079
Oh, cyclists are the rudest most
of not get on the planets.

1063
01:18:57.319 --> 01:19:00.239
He'll make it legal to run them
over. Oh I thought it. Whoever

1064
01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:05.840
it was legal, lucky thing,
it's not. So here's a kamalism.

1065
01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:13.720
So Kamala Harris interviewed on MSNBC about
the Israel Hamas war. We do also

1066
01:19:13.960 --> 01:19:16.800
need to focus on what is happening
now towards what is possible. It should

1067
01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:26.920
be possible the day after we call
it. What does that mean? I

1068
01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:30.560
don't know. Actually, you know
what this is an improvement of from what

1069
01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:32.800
she's been saying about the war in
the past. Right, yeah, that's

1070
01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:36.800
true. Yeah, what did she
say about the war in the past or

1071
01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:40.760
Remember she's one who's been saying,
uh, you know, the war has

1072
01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:43.680
to change. We can't have these
kinds of casualties on the part of the

1073
01:19:43.720 --> 01:19:46.760
Palestinians. Yeah, so you can't. You can't kill people. You know,

1074
01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:49.880
killing people is bad, and yeah, you can't have that in war.

1075
01:19:50.239 --> 01:19:54.439
Yeah, you can't have fights in
the war room. Remember that's right.

1076
01:19:56.880 --> 01:20:00.119
Okay, So let me do the
traditional yea, she said, Merry

1077
01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:03.720
Christmas, everybody, it was a
great year. Thanks for letting me onto

1078
01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:08.239
the podcast. I hope that they'll
keep me on in twenty twenty four,

1079
01:20:08.479 --> 01:20:12.800
twenty twenty three is a great experiment, right, having three people, it

1080
01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:15.079
was wonderful. John. Yeah.
And I want to say I want everyone

1081
01:20:15.159 --> 01:20:21.960
to see that being on the podcast
Lucretia has affected my whiskey purchases because I

1082
01:20:23.079 --> 01:20:29.039
bought I'm drinking a whiskey which I
think is lucretia. It's wild turkey,

1083
01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:34.439
but a rare breed of wild turkey. Oh I'm doing today, But go

1084
01:20:34.439 --> 01:20:38.439
ahead, John, Yeah, Okay, We'll always drink your whiskey. Need

1085
01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:43.920
let's go Brandon and Steve. God
save the queen man because someone has to

1086
01:20:44.680 --> 01:20:47.359
Merry Christmas. Everyone, Merry Christmas, everybody, thanks for joining us.

1087
01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:54.840
The news had come out in the
First World War, the bloody Red Barn.

1088
01:20:55.359 --> 01:20:59.840
He's flying once more. They all
a command to ignore all of it

1089
01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:05.319
men and calling on Snoopy to do
it again. Was the night for Christmas

1090
01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:12.840
to ford it Below, the Snoopy
went up in search of his phone spy

1091
01:21:12.960 --> 01:21:17.560
the Red Barn. Seriously they bought
with ice on his wings. Snoopy knew

1092
01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:33.960
it was called Christmas. Christmas right
up be so all over and the thrill

1093
01:21:34.720 --> 01:21:44.359
that the parent had Snoopy did in
his sights. He reached for the trigger

1094
01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:48.520
to pull it up tight. Why
he didn't shoot, well, we'll never

1095
01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:59.840
know. Or was it the bells
from the village below Christmas now no stairs

1096
01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:14.760
rain, raining peace to the wall, the world and to land. The

1097
01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:20.279
baron made Snoopy flight of the riot
and forced him to land behind the enemy

1098
01:22:20.439 --> 01:22:27.560
lines. Snoopy was certain that this
was the end when the baron cried out,

1099
01:22:27.920 --> 01:22:36.880
Merry Christmas. My friend Ricochet joined
the conversation.