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Hi everyone, I'm Talia and I'm
Tanya, and together we are Crimes and

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Consequences, a true crime podcast.
Welcome back, everyone to another episode of

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Crimes and Consequences. I'm Tanya and
I'm Talia, and we are a couple

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of friends who happen to be lawyers
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our videos. So I'm going to tell

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you about this guy. His name
is Edgar Eugene Pierce and he was born

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in August of nineteen thirty seven.
His parents were Edgar and Constance Pierce.

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He was the middle child of three
and he was known in his community to

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be really bright. And this takes
place in the United Kingdom. Okay,

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Edgar was so smart that at the
age of eleven, he was sent to

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a prep school in Oxford called Nelson
House, and the cost of Nelson House

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put a real big financial strain on
his parents, but his parents felt like

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getting this education would introduce him to
you know, upper class community and also

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obviously maybe lead to doors that could
be opened later. Yeah, especially he's

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only eleven. Yeah, right smart. After three years though at Nelson House,

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Edgar was transferred to another school due
to the financial burden. His parents

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just couldn't do it anymore, and
after he left like high school, he

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went on to study advertising. By
the time he was twenty four, Edgard

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was happily married to a woman named
Maureen. He was successful in his advertising

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career and they lived in a really
nice home in south West London. They

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ended up emigrating to South Africa in
nineteen seventy two, and it was here

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that Maureene gave birth to their daughter, Nicola. And South Africa though didn't

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I'm not sure exactly what happened,
but it didn't turn out to be everything

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that they hoped it would be,
you know, by living there, So

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they did return to the UK,
eventually seeking a fresh start. Ed and

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Edgar and Marine ended up buying a
small restaurant that they called Janie's Cuisine,

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but that their daughters. Oh no, it wasn't No, that wasn't their

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daughter, their daughter's nicola. I
don't know why they called it Genie's Cuisine.

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I don't know if they took it
over and it was already called Jane's.

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I'm not sure. But quickly this
endeavor began failing, leading Edgar to

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drink heavily and behave adly supported that. One evening, like a rare evening,

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when the restaurant was filled with customers, Edgar fired a loaded shotgun.

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Why the ceiling? What he just
started being, that's why the business is

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failing. I know, right,
would you go back? No? And

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I would tell all my friends that
the owner is fucking nuts, right,

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not going back. Yeah. By
the early eighties, Genie's Cuisine was officially

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going down the drain, and the
bank that was supporting it and keeping it

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open refused to continue to lend any
more money to Edgar. In nineteen eighty

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two, even worse news hit the
Pierce family when Marine was diagnosed with cancer,

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and this just forced this was like
the last strat, forced Edgar to

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sell the business and accept the fact
that it failed. With the closure of

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the restaurant, the family had to
move back to London, and because they

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were unable to find affordable housing on
their own, because they're financially strapped,

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they moved into a council property in
Chiswick. What's that? Council property is

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like government housing? Like Section eight? Yeah, like session A what we

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would call here. Things might have
started looking up for the Peerce family as

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Marine made a recovery from her cancer
and Edgar started a new career opportunity as

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a property developer, But he really
wasn't successful at that either, and he

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was just really barely able to provide
for his family. Doesn't seem like he

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was successful at much. No,
and partly it was due to his heavy

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drinking and extremely negative attitude toward life. And by the early nineties, Marine

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has just been fed up with her
husband and she left him after thirty one

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years of marriage. Oh yes,
and she's really fed up. She was

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really fed up. She's like,
I can't do this anymore. Yeah,

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I'm done with this loser. So
she leaves. She moves out of the

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home to his community. Edgar was
a loner who really only spent time like

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what he did with his day was
he went and visited his brother, he

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visited his ex wife, and he
watched TV. Wow. Wow. He

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lived alone in the council property.
How's he making money? Well, at

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this point in nineteen ninety two,
he's like rock bottom. So he couldn't

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support himself any longer. He,
like you said, he's a failure at

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everything he tried. So to keep
himself afloat, he started to illegally sublet

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out a room in his council property. Okay, helped pay the rent.

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Yep, he'll pay the rent.
And the rent was so high for this

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room in his council property that he
was able to pay his rent, pay

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for groceries and the heavy drinking habits
that he had with somebody. Somebody was

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getting ripped off big time. It
was reported that Edgar drank so much red

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wine that sometimes he would drive to
France and when he arrived back, there

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were so many cases of wine in
his car that the car's axles looked like

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they were ready to give up,
like his car was just so low.

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Cases and cases of wine in his
car. His behavior continued until one day

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Edward was found collapsed in the street, which led to a hospital visit.

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Obviously, he's like, what passed
out drunk or something? He passed out,

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They're not sure. He gets to
the hospital and he was diagnosed with

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epilepsy and he suffered some brain damage
from the seizures he was having. On

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top of that, his lifestyle choices
didn't help his hoully when he was found

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collapsed in the street. He also
suffered a broken shoulder and he had to

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have surgery, and it's believed that
maybe he had a mild stroke instead of

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a seizure that caused him to fall. But after weeks of healing in the

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hospital, Edgar was released. But
his behavior just got only stranger. Oh

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boy, he never really recovered from
these injuries. Just to let you know,

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the surgeries that he had in the
sprain damage, all these things affected

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him. In the following years,
he developed obsessive behaviors, and of one

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of his obsessions was with Sainsbury's supermarket
What Yeah What. He kept his kitchen

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fully stocked with sainsbury cleaning supplies and
groceries, but despite this, his house

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was often in disarray. Tenants,
I know, it's so bizarre. Tenants

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and neighbors would report that Edgar would
often cook himself like extravagant meals starting at

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six in the morning, like roasts, and just like these, the huge

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meals that take all day to make. He would enjoy these meals with several

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bottles of wine. I wonder if
that's alcohol like induced dementias. Yeah,

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like, what could be. I
didn't think about that. Yeah, it

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could be. He spent most of
his time, most of his days in

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a drunken state, and he was
often aggressive and abusive towards neighbors and female

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tenants, and he the children in
the neighborhood were also terrified of him because

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he was drunk. Guys, stay
away from him. Stay away from him,

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exactly Edgar. Edgar viewed himself as
better than everyone else, so pretty

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much, you know, he's better
and everyone's a piece of shit, Yeah,

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worthless, And you know that's how
he would treat them. One neighbor

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reported that Edgar purposely flooded his apartment. I don't know why, maybe I

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don't know. To bother other tenants, he gave her teenage son a live

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bullet. Whose teenage son? This
neighbor, and he put shotun cartridges on

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her doorstep. Oh, now,
he's just fucking with it, it's just

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being weird. Eventually, her husband
would confront Edgar about these things, and

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he ended up beating the shit out
of Edgar Wow, leaving him needing hospital

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treatment for a broken jaw. Huger, Come on, man, get your

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shit together. As so as you
can imagine, Edgar is very angry with

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the world. I mean, he's
not only like a mastard to his neighbors,

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he's a drunk. He just is
angry. He's better than everybody else,

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and he has has a pot to
piss in, and he's you know,

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living in this council house, and
his life just really is design fair,

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no external locus of control. It's
called the world against you. The

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world's against him is exactly how he
felt. He complained about everything and anything,

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you know, and he would also
try to finesse the system, even

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if it meant putting others in trouble. He had a hatred toward the world.

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He was addicted to alcohol and eventually
painkillers. He he always had this

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idea like he wanted to get revenge
against society, you know, because he

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had been dealt such a bad hand
that you know, he had absolutely nothing

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to do with right, so smart, Look what the world did, yeah,

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and he felt like he deserved better. This longing for revenge only enhanced

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when Edgar watched a documentary about a
man who attempted to blackmail a baby food

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company in the late eighties. I
think I kind of know about it,

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you remember, Yeah, this documentary
made Edgar sit up and you know,

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the wheels start turning in his head. So what if he were able to

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blackmail some company or something to get
money that he was he felt he was

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so deserving of. But in Edgar's
backyard in Chiswick, he had a greenhouse.

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This was the perfect spot for Edgar
to hatch the beginnings of his plan

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and get to work. Edgar was
once an experienced handyman, but his alcohol

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addiction prevented him from taking that skill
anywhere. But he had this skill,

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and so because of his experience and
just playing around with like clocks and tinkering

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with other things at home, Edgar
was able to construct various weapons, mostly

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bombs bombs. Greenhouse. Yes,
neighbors reported that Edgar often was in his

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greenhouse late into the night, but
they never really thought anything of it.

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They I guess they thought he was
He's fucking the weird right neighborhood. I

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guess they thought, you know,
he's just really got a green thumb.

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Apparently, I don't know. Yeah, it's just him drunk and cool,

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right think, always probably passed out
and there enjoying a bottle of wine or

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something. And Deceummer six, nineteen
ninety four, Edgar finally took action and

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felt ready to execute this plan boy
that morning. That morning, he sent

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out six individual packages, all wrapped
in blue Christmas wrapping paper with gold stars

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on them. He sent them out
to six different branches of Barclay's Bank in

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London. This is who he's targeting, the bank, the bank. He

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used an old fashioned typewriter to address
each package and paid for first class mail.

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All packages contained like a flyer where
it had pictures of what looked like

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the characters in that movie Reservoir Dogs
by Quentin Tanto. Yeah, where they

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had the black suits and great movie. Yeah it was a great movie.

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But it wasn't the actors. I'm
just gonna tell you it wasn't the actors

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in the flyer, because I do
have a picture of it which will show,

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but they were dressed like that.
He captioned the photo Welcome to the

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Marti Gras experience, whatever that means. And clearly these moms were homemade.

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They were stored inside empty double video
cases with another like Marti Gras logo,

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I don't know, and they consisted
of spring loaded bolts with a sharp nail

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at one end. Yeah. So
connected to the end of this was a

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shotgun cartridge primed with gunpowder impacked with
ball bearings. So when it explodes,

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you know the ball bearings are supposed
to So you're just telling us how to

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make a bomb, right, Well, I'm not telling you how to make

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it because you know you'll you'll find
out when while Edgar had inten for these

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bombs to explode outwards, he had
packed them too loosely and they didn't explode

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correctly. Ah shit. A clerk
working at one branch that received the package

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was named Bali Harri. She suffered
burns to her arms and hands when the

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explosive went off as she opened it. Another clerk at a branch a few

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miles away, named Martin Grimsdale,
he was left temporarily deaf when his package

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exploded. But the four other packages
that he sent out, because remember he

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sent out six, they were recovered
before they exploded due to fast acting staff

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who raised an alarm amongst the other
branches of the bank. Forensic experts believe

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that if Edgar had packed the shotgun
cartridges any tighter than they could have easily

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killed someone who opened it. At
this point, police weren't sure where to

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turn, like who is sending these
packages. They started with figure out how

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the devices that Edgar made worked.
They were looking for anything unique in it.

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You know, they usually will analyze
like sure, yeah, something they're

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looking at, like the contents of
it to see right where it came from,

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Yeah, where that supplies? Right. They started and they started looking

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into barclay Banks personnel files and customer
complaint files because maybe it's a disgruntled employee

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or a customer who was pissed off
about something. Two days later, on

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December eighth, nineteen ninety four,
a typewritten letter was sent to police.

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In this letter, Edgar demanded that
Barclay Bank pay him two thousand pounds every

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day for the rest of his life. What what yeh? Come on?

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That's what he wanted to be reasonable. Yeah, and he how are you

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going to get that and not get
caught every day? I know? Yeah,

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it's going to go into a bank. You have to access the bank

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account, right, I mean is
this Yeah? He outlined this detai old

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plan of communication that police were to
follow and how they would pay him the

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ransom. His plan was that Barclays
would create promotional Barclays cards, which were

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cash cards, and give them away
in magazines. Only they didn't work,

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okay. He would then get like
a special pin through a coded passage in

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the personal columns in the Daily Telegraph
and they wouldn't be able to trace it.

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All we're that money he didn't right, that money from when he uses

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the pen and all right, no, I mean you're going to have to

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access it at a bank or an
ATM. Yeah right, I mean they

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have cameras everywhere, even in nineteen
ninety four. But I am getting ahead

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of myself, okay, Edgar Warren. Police that Barclay and Barclay is that

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if they didn't follow through by December
tenth, all of Barclay's staff now would

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be considered dispensable targets. He signed
the letter Martine Graham, that was his

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I guess non de plume Martin Martin
Graham, ma'am. After receiving this ransom

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note, police followed a strict news
blackout so it did not get leaked to

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the press. They hoped that with
the public not privy to the search for

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Edgar, like that would lure him, you know, like lure him into

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a false sense of security, or
maybe you know, that would then lead

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to him making a mistake of some
kind. They were prioritizing creating communication with

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Martin Graham, so they did put
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tenth. But despite posting this message, they never heard back from Edgar,

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and he seemed to have just disappeared. So just in case, though,

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police continued to sift through their oversized
list of anyone who could have a beef

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with Barclay's bank. I mean it's
a big bank. Yeah, there's a

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lot of Peach Bank. Yes.
Over five months later, on May fifteenth,

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nineteen ninety five, Barclay's bank head
office finally received a second letter from

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Edgar, and this time he was
changing the game. He wasn't going to

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be attacking the banks, he said, he was going to be attacking people

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at random, Like I'm not I'm
not going to the banks now, I'm

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just going to start anybody anywhere anybody
anywhere. Although Edgar was selecting people at

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random, All the bombs had a
similar tag. It said on them with

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the compliments of Barclay's card. Yeah
an asshole. On May nineteenth, a

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bomb arrived in an address in Petersborough. On June first, a bomb arrived

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at a shop in Dunchurch, Kent. On June ninth, a pub in

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Chiswick where he lived, received a
bomb. This was the only one that

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exploded, the one at the pub, and no one was seriously injured.

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In the two weeks following these attacks
these three attacks, three more bombs were

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sent out. One of those was
sent to a Barclay's head office and the

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bomb was actually sent deactivated because it
didn't have a firing pin. Like I

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don't know if he forgot it.
I don't know if it fell apart,

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he wasted, probably forgot. Throughout
these attacks, police continued with their blackout

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news strategy, so this was not
being reported in the media. They were

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really trying to avoid any kind of
public panic and also any copycat bombers.

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Oh yeah, that makes sense.
Edgar continued with the cycle for these next

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few years. Yes, he had, he had the United Kingdom, Like

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in a in a terror at one
point for years because he was, it

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just continued. There would be a
string of attacks for a few weeks,

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bombs sent out to various residential locations
around London, and then he would go

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quiet people's houses. Mm, but
nobody died. No. Edgar would create

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experiment with different different ways to conceal
his bombs. Sometimes they were in a

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videotape bag. Other times they were
enrolled up newspaper or in a hollowed out

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book. His favorite and most notorious
way, though, was to conceal them

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in a Christmas gift, like he
did initially. You know, you got

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to wait till wroun Christmas to do
that. No, no, you're not

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exactly. He had to wait wait
to do it once a year. Edgar

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always didn't make his bombs the same
way either. Sometimes they would just be

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like really just kind of clearly homemade, like just kind of jinky and you

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know whatever. They would blow up
in someone's face immediately, even though there

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wasn't any serious injury at this place. We didn't put a lot of shrapnelons.

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No he didn't. And other times
they were made with more care.

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He didn't always send them through the
mail sometimes he'd dropped them off personally or

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leave them on a curb somewhere.
With time, Edgar's homemade weapons started becoming

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more and more dangerous and lethal though, because he's making them, he's getting

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more sophisticated, right, and police
really starting to fear that someone may actually

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die at the hands of the Marty
Grab bomber, Martin Graham. It's so

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ridiculous. Yes, during the periods
where Edgar wasn't randomly sending and leaving bombs

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around London, he was perfecting his
craft. He was incredibly patient and very

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determined to successfully complete this, you
know mission he's on. He's he's got

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nothing else to do. He really
has nothing else to do. On top

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of this, you know, he
Plussy really wanted this money, so on

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top of this, Edgar was incredibly
calculated and cautious. He would test all

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of his bombs on a remote plot
of land, seeking improvement, you know,

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to his various homemade devices. While
he was randomly choosing locations for his

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bombs, there was some method to
his madness. He once admitted that he

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chose the pub in his neighborhood in
Chiswick that I mentioned right earlier. He

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did that because he was starting to
get concerned that his packages weren't arriving at

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their destinations successfully due to police and
news outlets not reporting on him. I

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guess, I don't know, maybe
the mail would catch them away. If

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he's not hearing about any right,
he's not hearing about anything going off.

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So he knew if he sent one
to his local pub, he could go

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up there later and see, yeah, for a drink and make sure it

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got delivered. And this feeling was
exactly what the police were hoping Edgard would

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feel, you know, that would
then maybe lead to him slipping up,

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like they think, maybe he's going
to get a little sloppy. Frustrated that

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his plans were not being widely reported
on, Edgar decided to change his method

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and change M right yeah, And
December seventeen, nineteen ninety six, a

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letter arrived at the Daily Mail offices
with a threat to the Daily Mail.

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I know the Daily Mail is fund
to read it hit this threat and stated

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that unless Sainsbury Supermarkets acknowledged the Marty
Grab bomber publicly and they had the ransom

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that he demanded, he would resort
to shooting Sainsbury customers with a homemade crossbow

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device. I thought he liked Saintsbury
does he was obsessed, Like, Okay,

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I don't know. I was gonna
shoot him with a crossbow. He's

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gonna shoot him with a grossbow.
What the fuck is this? He wrote

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in this letter that the crossbow would
be mounted inside a large bag that would

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fire through a prepared slit in the
side after being activated by a fishing line

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attached to the trigger. Like,
so he's got it all covered and maybe

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and he's telling them all, Yeah, he's just telling him all. He

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chose this method because he could do
this in a crowd of people while still

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escaping and remaining anonymous and mysterious,
Like he could trigger it, I guess.

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He also included a picture of a
woman grocery shopping alone with the caption

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quote targeted for active, targeted for
active end quote. Iker wanted the Daily

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Mail to put this picture in the
paper, but police thought this threat was

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a bluff, as it would require
the Marti grab bomber to operate in person

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and put his anonymity at risk.
Yeah, maybe he's going to get the

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grocery store. So the police and
the Daily Mail decided not to follow Edgar's

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instructions and they didn't post the picture. Less than a month later, on

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January seventh, nineteen ninety seven,
Edgar mailed another letter that contained two photographs.

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One was of that solo female shopper
and another was a homemade crossbow.

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And once again Edgar's demands were ignored
and he kind of just fell off the

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charts again, like he you know, so he actually made the crossbo He

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made the crossboot, I guess.
Early in nineteen ninety seven, police in

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London were using two types of profile
hunting for Edgar. First, the lead

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profile for the FBI's Unibomber Task Force. His name was Bill Tafoya. He

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helped create a psychological profile for Edgar. Bill reported that Edgar was most likely

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a middle aged with average intelligence who
most likely had a boring job. He

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would be a person who often held
grudges even for the most minuscule things.

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Bill hypothesized that the bomber was most
likely a loner who lived in London,

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and his reason for targeting Barclays and
Sainsbury were most likely overly simple. He

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was insulted, maybe by a staff
member, or brought bad groceries or bought

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Brett bad groceries from the store,
something little like that. Bill felt that

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if Edgar was able to build more
complex bombs, he would have by now.

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Bill highlighted the fact that Edgar used
everyday items that were easily accessible to

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him to build the bombs. What
wasn't anything like a complicated ingredient in it.

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The police also utilized a geographical approach
to narrow down the search. They

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knew that where Edgar lived had an
impact on where he acted, right,

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so then they have all this technology
now that can help narrow it down.

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They didn't jack the ripper in that
one episode. I did remember. I

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do remember that they actually have an
expert that narrow can narrow it down.

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Yeah, I do remember that.
So the police in London, they continued

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to partner with the FBI and utilized
a profiling software called Oriyan, And what

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that system did was helped police create
a clearer pattern of locations of attacks.

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While the majority happened in West and
southeast London, Ryan helped police narrow it

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down that most of the attacks happened
near Chiswick, which is where he lived.

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They lived. Despite all of this
information, police still struggled to narrow

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down their search and for eleven months, their hunt continued as the Marty Graw

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Bomber was silent. Oh he didn't
do anything for eleven months. No.

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On Saturday November fifteenth, nineteen ninety
seven, Edgar made his return as the

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Marty Graw bomber. This time he
targeted three branches of sainsbury He went with

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his tried and true method, the
video case exsive. He left copies of

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the film Grand Canyon and abandoned bags
of groceries inside Sainsbury's stores. All three

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of these devices were the shotgun cartridge
type that, when triggered, would fire

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pellets into the face or body of
the person opening them. But this time

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Edgar made some modifications to that the
shot was better packed, it was reinforced

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and angled better, and his method
of dropping them off was newer and better.

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He printed blue stickers that had a
message on them saying if a person

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found this video, please return to
Sainsbury's security for a five pound reward.

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Oh what yeah what. He then
left them in parking lots, prompting random

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citizens to find them and bring them
inside the store. This lowered his risk

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as he didn't have to enter zones
that were patrolled by CCTV footage so he

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could stay out of the range of
the cameras. Ten days later, he

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executed another the attack this time around. This time around, he used videotapes

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again, but they all contained a
red dot and a sticker with a message

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saying any video bearing a red dot
has been cleared by Sainsbury's security staff.

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Okay, okay. Five hundred yards
from a Sainsbury, one of Edgar's bombs

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exploded itself. What really shook people
with this specific bomb is that it was

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placed around the street from an elementary
school. The kid could have got yeah.

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Just an hour later, a customer
at another Sainsbury turned in one of

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the tapes after finding it left outside
the store in a shopping bag. The

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second device found was quickly disarmed,
so no one was hurt with that.

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On December sixth, nineteen ninety seven, a seventy three year old woman named

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Joan cut a bus from a stop
directly outside of a Sainsbury. When she

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arrived home, she noticed that she
somehow had acquired another shopping bag from the

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store. What she pulled out one
of the Mardi Gras video tapes. The

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device, and she had no idea
what she was looking at so like I

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think she was. She was at
a bus stop. I think she probably

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set her groceries down, and around
where she set her groceries down that she

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placed, he put a there was
a bag with this Bombinish. Okay,

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yeah, that's pretty clever. Thankfully, seconds later to her like discovering this,

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a neighbor came over like just to
say hi. Like the timing was

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perfect, and he instantly noticed the
device from the news because it had been

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reported these weird packages at Sainsbury and
he got Joan to safety before anything tragic

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could happen. Joan, though she
was really affected. Well yeah, and

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she spent the next ten weeks in
a state of constant anxiety. She suffered

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from flashbacks about how she innocently came
upon these packages and it was the idea

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of it was just so horrific for
her. She eventually passed away not too

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long after that from an aggressive form
of leukemia. Finding one of Marty Gras's

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devices changed her forever and she was
just never able to have that peace of

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mind again before she passed away.
That's sad. After three years of going

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back and forth with the Marty Gras
bomber Edgar and Edgar, I'm sorry I

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said that wrong. After three years
going back and forth with the Marty Grab

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bomber, the police were not any
closer to finding out why is he still

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doing that? She hasn't you figure
out a way to get some money now?

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I mean it's not working. So
police said, okay, they were

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gonna see what would happen if they
just paid him, like paid him some

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money. They're gonna see what He's
just gonna ask for more money and then

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once they stop, he's gonna serve
bombing again. Well, their hope was,

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you know, they would catch Edgar
when he was attempting to withdraw the

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money from an ATMA. So at
this point police knew that Edgar was would

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most likely place his device somewhere either
in West London or Southeast London at is

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Sainsbury Star. So they went to
all mental store at the start and they're

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like, you know, a million
different I may probably make a minimum wage.

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I don't think it's worth it.
They went to all these stores in

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those areas, the police did,
and they amped up the security with more

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CCTV surveillance, knowing that this was
going to be a huge task for police,

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and the chances of actually catching him
were, you know, by planning

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a device or slim. Police attempted
to lure Edgar into communicating with them.

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They followed the first communication directions that
Edgar gave them back in nineteen ninety four,

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and they posted a message in the
Daily Mail I'm sorry the Daily Telegraph

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personals column. Edgar was now asking
for ten thousand pounds a day well.

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In their message said that they would
give it to him, but he needed

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to wait until March nineteen ninety eight. Edgar never responded to their message and

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trying to buy time, I guess, But on January sixteenth, he placed

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another bomb at Sainsbury's, which was
thankfully found and he activated. A few

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weeks later, in February, another
device was discovered at the same bus stop

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where Joan had picked up her extra
shopping bag. This device did explode and

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one person was injured, but not
seriously. One week later, a person

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found a shopping bag full of things
outside near sainsbury and decided to take it

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while driving home. The bag suddenly
exploded in the passenger seat of that guy's

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car, and he wasn't seriously injured. But on March fourth, nineteen ninety

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eight, a seventeen year old was
seriously injured though, when one of the

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Mardy Grass devices was left at the
Sainsbury where he worked. Mmmmm, yeah,

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it's only seventeen and if Edgar had
made another attack, it would be

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his thirty sixth attacks, not how
many bombs he sent out over these years.

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Yeah, and at least he wasn't
that effective, thankfully. Nearly two

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weeks later, on March seventeen,
nineteen ninety eight, Edgard was finally caught

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on camera by surveillance video. He
crossed a busy street in front of a

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bus carrying a black bag with a
gloved hand. He set the bag down

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just a few feet away from the
entrance of Sainsbury and made a few few

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adjustments to the package before walking back
across the street. Five minutes later,

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the device exploded and this was all
caught on camera. Thankfully, no one

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was injured and the footage did not
show Edgar's face, so police still didn't

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have an idea who this man actually
was, and they decided, okay,

407
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:37.200
now we're okay, we're going to
play along. Finally, we're going to

408
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:42.720
give in to his demands and they
were going to pay Edgard twenty thousand pounds

409
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:45.680
to catch him in the act.
They wrote in the personal columns of the

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Daily Telegraph and informed Edgar of the
date, time, and arrangements for him

411
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:55.799
to access the Maank account. While
it's still never been released to the public

412
00:32:55.839 --> 00:33:01.319
how the pen was communicated to him
for scar reasons. On April twenty eighth,

413
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:06.680
nineteen ninety eight, at six fourteen
pm, an alarm sounded at Scotland

414
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Yard. The police had created a
system that when the secret pin was used

415
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:16.319
by someone at a specific bank cash
point, an alarm would instantly sound at

416
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Scotland Yard, notifying police of the
exact location that the money was attempting to

417
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.079
be pulled from. Additionally, to
slow him down and create more of a

418
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:30.640
paper trail, police set a limit
of how much money he could pull out,

419
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:38.160
like on each ATM transaction, forcing
him to go to multiple multiple Banks's

420
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:43.880
much yeah to retrieve the money.
The first alarm came from a cashpoint that

421
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.759
wasn't under surveillance, so police waited
patiently to see if Edgar would go to

422
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:52.160
another one to withdraw more. Minutes
later, the alarm sounded again. Please

423
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.839
he's going to go someplace close by. Yeah, of course, right,

424
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:58.839
you're not going to drive across town. You're going to hit the next ATM

425
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:01.799
you can go to. So another
alarm sounded, and this time he was

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00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:07.559
at an ATM that was under surveillance. Police finally had a visual on Edgar,

427
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.280
but he wasn't alone. But yeah, he was with another man.

428
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:15.039
And the other man they were both
wearing matching raincoats that went down to their

429
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:20.840
ankles. They both had on the
same pants, gloves. They're twinsies.

430
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:25.239
Yes, they had wigs and they
wore dark glasses. I know. One

431
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:29.480
of them had on a flat white
hat and the other one was wearing a

432
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:35.199
checkered bucket hat. Edgar was carrying
a clipboard that had a mirror on the

433
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.760
back of it, and after withdrawing
the money, both men were seen on

434
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:45.519
CCTV getting into a red vox Hall
Senator car. Police immediately found the car

435
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:51.719
and began tailing them. Police followed
them into another ATM where they sat and

436
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:57.320
waited. They watched Edgar in his
accomplice go to the ATM start using it

437
00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:01.079
to withdraw money, and police were
report this like every move that was made

438
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:07.559
back to Scotland Yard waiting to see
if the alarm would sound and confirm that

439
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:09.440
the man that this was the man
that they were looking for, and when

440
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:14.880
it did, the chief detective gave
the order to arrest the pair. I

441
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:20.159
want to know who this dumb mass
is until I find you. Police waited

442
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:24.840
until both men were inside the vehicle
before making themselves known. Undercover officers in

443
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:30.320
various vehicles approached the car, ripped
open the doors, pulled both men out,

444
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:32.159
and there's a picture of them laying
in the street next to the car.

445
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:37.760
Finally, the Marty Gras bomber had
been caught. Police were obviously concerned

446
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:42.440
with the fact that either or both
of these men could have dangerous devices on

447
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:45.880
their person, maybe you know,
in that raincoat pocket, so they proceeded

448
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:51.639
with caution while searching them. After
removing the wigs, glasses, and hats,

449
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:55.320
police were faced with two older men. It was Edgar and his brother,

450
00:35:55.480 --> 00:36:00.880
Ronald Pierce, like dumb and dummer. Yeah, while brother his brother,

451
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:06.000
his brother, yes, the one
that he you know, spent most

452
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:08.639
of his time talking and visiting with
oh every day. Yeah, Well,

453
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:15.320
Ronald Edgar's brother had nothing of significance
on his person other than his tacky disguise.

454
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:20.519
Edgar had some interesting items on him
in his pockets. He had detailed

455
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:24.760
notes of the locations of the ATMs
that were not recorded by CCTV and a

456
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:30.239
route plan of roads to and from
each ATM without CCTV footage, so they'll

457
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:35.760
really researched these, yeah. Edgar
also had a piece of paper that contained

458
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:39.880
the secret pin number SEPT for police, and he had on him fifteen hundred

459
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:45.880
pounds that the hard to remember the
pin number. Honestly, I would have

460
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:49.119
memorized. I would have wrote in
my hand or some shit I don't know.

461
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:52.239
I would have memorized it. The
Marty grab armor. Now he had

462
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:55.760
officially been caught, because they've now
got this overwhelming evidence, I got to

463
00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:00.360
be so disappointed at what a dipshit, dipshit, thank you he is.

464
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:05.440
Edgar and Ronald, who were brothers
like I mentioned, were taken to different

465
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:09.559
police stations for questioning after being arrested, while police went to both their homes

466
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:14.320
to search it. So upon arriving
at Ronald's house, it was obvious that

467
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:19.000
Ronald it was obvious that Ronald wasn't
really involved in this at all, but

468
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:23.880
at Edgar's house they found a charger
trove of evidence. They found two fully

469
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:29.159
and functioning pipe bombs, four pipe
bombs in the process of being constructed,

470
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:35.960
a fully loaded shotgun, materials to
make more shotgun devices. They found twelve

471
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:40.800
gauge cartridges, two crossbows, twelve
homemade crossbow bolts, a stun gun,

472
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:44.880
a loaded revolver. I mean,
they just found all kinds of shit at

473
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:50.239
his house. It was just crazy. And they found stationary inadhesives that matched

474
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:53.960
the ones attached to previous devices.
Police had no doubt that they had caught

475
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:59.119
now the Marty Grobamber, and they
believe that if they hadn't caught him,

476
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:05.119
he would have continued building and using
these devices to terrorize the community. Edgar

477
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.400
wasn't afraid to tell his story.
Like once he got to the police station.

478
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:13.760
Upon questioning, he's saying loudly as
he proudly shared, I mean not

479
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:17.159
literally saying. He proudly shared with
police the amount of dedication and care.

480
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:21.480
That's all he did. Was Yeah, that was a set time job.

481
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:25.480
He shared how he selected various targets
and how he decided which device he would

482
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:30.280
use. The one thing Edgar would
never admit to is that he intended to

483
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:35.480
hurt people. No, I'm just
putting bombs all. I'm just you know,

484
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:37.440
I didn't want to hurt anybody with
the bomb. No. No,

485
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:44.039
he maintained throughout questioning and in his
trial that he never wanted to hurt people.

486
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:46.159
No, he didn't want to discuss
the potential harm and threats that he

487
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:52.599
posted the public either. Both Edgar
and Ronald were sentenced to three counts conspiracy

488
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:58.840
to blackmail Barclay's Bank, conspiracy to
blackmail Sainsbury, and conspiracy to possess firearms

489
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:02.199
with intent to endanger life. At
their first hearing. Edgar and Ronald were

490
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:07.559
held in jail for over a year. No attempted murder even for seventeen year

491
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:12.920
old those series right, No,
they were in your jail for over a

492
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:15.679
year waiting trial. Throughout this year
in jail, the brothers would appear in

493
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:22.119
court over twenty times for various charges
around the bomber case. This include causing

494
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:28.480
bodily harm, possessing prohibited items,
blackmailing, causing explosions, intend to do

495
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:31.800
in danger life. So I was
a murder, it was attempt to endanger

496
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:37.400
life. Surprisingly, both Edgar and
Ronald pleaded not guilty. To every charge

497
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:43.440
and come on when the come on, dude, come like, we've seen

498
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:45.960
your greenhouse. Yeah, well yeah
right, we found bombs at your house,

499
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:51.360
man, right, like what is
this ship. When the trial finally

500
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.880
came, Edgar ended up pleading guilty
to all the charges good, while Ronald

501
00:39:54.920 --> 00:40:00.440
only pleaded guilty to possessing a stun
gun being a dumb Yes, Ronald was

502
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:05.639
sentenced to twelve months in jail for
the stun gun possession. However, at

503
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:09.000
this time he had already served over
twelve months in Yeah, so he was

504
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:15.000
a freeman, but Edgar had to
stay behind. On Thursday, April fourteenth,

505
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.760
Edgar was sentenced to a total of
two hundred and twenty four years in

506
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:23.360
jail for all the individual charges.
But luckily they these would be served like

507
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:29.920
concurrently, so it wasn't stacked.
It wasn't a total, luckily for him.

508
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.559
Yeah, luckily for him. So
the maximum amount of time that he

509
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:37.280
was going to spend in jail was
twenty one years. Oh, he's got

510
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:39.079
to be older. Yeah. In
an attempt to get him less time,

511
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:44.960
Edgar's defense team attempted to plead that
he wasn't guilty because of hypertension Okay,

512
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:49.880
that's high blood pressure. Yeah,
okay, really really and that he had

513
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:54.239
bleed on the brain, you know, but I guess it didn't affect the

514
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:58.440
fact that he terrorized London for four
years. But he could do that,

515
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:01.400
but he wasn't guilty. So whatever, let him out, You cannot let

516
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:05.960
him out. He'd be cuckoo again. Yeah. So remember back in the

517
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:09.760
early eighties when Edgar's family's restaurant was
forced to get Yes change or Jeanine's or

518
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:15.840
yeah, Genie's Genies Cuisine, Well
it was Barclay's Bank was the bank that

519
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:20.800
ended the loans, son of a
bit. Yeah, and there you go.

520
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:22.079
And that's a start at all of
this. In case you were wondering.

521
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:25.440
Edgar was always described as a man
who believed he was better than everyone

522
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:29.360
else, like I told you,
and he truly believed that he was entitled

523
00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:34.239
to some sort of financial support or
benefit because of his sad, sorry life.

524
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:38.960
Despite everything, Edgar put a risk
over money. He never actually received

525
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:45.159
a penny that money that he was
taking out of those ATMs. He's getting

526
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:51.800
three meals a day and shelter.
Yeah, he was. He was the

527
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:58.400
cause of police changing their tactics,
like for bombs and changing the way that

528
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:04.840
they train their new police officers.
And Edgars served his time and he's now

529
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.880
in his eighties living a quiet life
somewhere. But how do you serve his

530
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:15.719
time was ninety four? Twenty years. It's been twenty years, girl,

531
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:20.239
he's out. Yeah, so I
imagine he's in poor health, but he's

532
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:24.400
still alive. He's in his eighties. He made a sailing Oh I wonder

533
00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:28.639
it's probably in a nursing home.
Yeah, in a nursing home somewhere at

534
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:32.280
the text text player's dime in the
UK. So maybe he learned the lesson.

535
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:36.599
Maybe I doubt it. I don't
think he's the type that would.

536
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:40.320
So that is the story of Marty
Grabaumer. Yeah, no, And it

537
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:43.760
was so it was a little different
than the ones we usually Yeah, I've

538
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.519
never I don't know we've ever had
one where something nope, dying. Yeah,

539
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:49.519
I know. I'm like, well
we did. We had one that

540
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.119
was a really bad domestic violence case. I do remember I did that one

541
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:58.079
too, And Dave Us, who
was a listener, he suggested this episode.

542
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:01.559
Thank you Dave. So I hope
he sees it and sees that we

543
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:05.719
did it or or here's it,
yeah, or here's it and your favorite

544
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:08.280
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545
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547
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