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Welcome into Clips and Dip Season two, episode twenty four. I'm out of

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Maslin. We got Chuck Mockler and
Will Updyke here. The trifecta has returned,

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the triumphant threesome tripod. I love
not the Threesome pause. It's gonna

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be with you guys. Last night, if you missed it, we did

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a little Clips and Double Dip myself
and Chuck Mockler after the Clippers lost their

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six straight ball game, five straight
with James Harden. We'll talk about that

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off the top coming up later in
the show. We'll preview Clippers and Rockets

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on Friday, what they need to
do better and why this Rockets team has

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won six in a row. So
I guess guys will start things off with

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how are you Chuck? Thanks for
doing that last night on Clippers Talk.

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How you been? I've been bad. I think six games ago I was

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doing better than I am now because
we hadn't experienced this loss. But it's

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raining in La, it's fall.
I'm drinking tea. So everything other than

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the Clippers I think is going is
going well. When I say hello to

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the new listeners and people watching,
we're on YouTube YouTube Dot complash at Clippers

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podcast. I'm enjoying the fall.
I'm happy there's two days off to forget

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about what's happening with the Clippers,
but excited to talk about some of the

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good stuff, including one of Will's
insane takes that we had that might actually

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end up happening at some point.
But Will, how are you? I'm

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doing. I'm doing alright all things
considered. Yeah, I'm also appreciating the

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rain. I also love when it's
raining in La. It's all anybody can

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talk about. So it's one of
my favorite things that in the ten closing.

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Dude, I work in an office. We're not getting shit done with

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this weather, and with the ten
closing, it's been great. All right,

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So welcome distraction from the Clippers.
Well, we're about to get your

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own divided attention back on the Clippers
here, Will, as we talk about

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this. The Clippers lose last night
by three in Denver to the Nuggets,

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where they had opportunities to win the
ball game. They were up by seven

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with six minutes left. Stage small
after work to get them back into the

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ballgame, but then Nikola Jokis re
entered. The rest is history, and

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a three point loss in a game
where Aaron Gordon hit a half court shot

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to end the third quarter, insult
to injury, whatever you want to call

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it. Everything that can't go wrong
has and will go wrong for the Clippers

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right now. But what do you
guys think is the most concerning thing during

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this losing streak so far? Chuck? I think I don't know if I

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really believe that it's ty Lou,
but there's like last I think it's just

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fresh in my mind. Obviously we
didn't have any size. Zoo had the

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four fouls, but even bringing in
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have helped defensively. That doesn't seem
to be ties thing. The Clippers are

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in place to sign Daniel Tice,
who's a six to eight center who's going

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to help the offense a lot,
which is good in terms of connecting,

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but it might be coaching. But
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the roster. I think I have
to give it to We just don't have

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size, and we traded the size, which we had to do, I

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guess. And then Mason goes down, which is obviously like you're not going

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to carry three centers. Game one
of like game one of this of the

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hard and losing street era. Yeah
so, and like you're not going to

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carry three centers. So I don't
know it. It feels like it's a

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bunch of things working together to screw
the clippers over. We'll talk about the

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Tys thing, but like I think
it's just roster construction. Will I like,

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this isn't all Tylu, But I
do have to push back a little

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bit. I'm just getting kind of
tired of the thing where we say something

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and then it gets run back,
you know. Tyleru said he wanted to,

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you know, keep the shifts of
like Harden and Russ apart. They're

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still un willing to change the starting
lineup though We've seen some little things and

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then it just seems like it just
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And I think that that is the
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And there were some things to like. I mean, there have been

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some things to like throughout this losing
streak. I mean, with the exception

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of one game, Paul George has
been superb offensively. We got in this

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Nuggets loss, James Hern's probably best
offensive performance. Would have liked to see

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him, you know, facilitating things
a little bit more. But that's the

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overall issue that I have with this
is just continuously, when these games are

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close and in clutch minutes, the
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They're just get they're just bad shots. When that game was very winnable for

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the Clippers, it was, I
mean, it was borderline malpractice. The

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like the offense that like the shots
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know, Adam, you've you know, you've been defensive of you know,

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some of those Iso Kawhi mid range
things. He did not have it last

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night, and and some of those
shots that he was getting like it.

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I just I failed to see,
with this much offensive talent, how they

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cannot be coming up with better shots. And it's also been the same every

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single game these losses. Right,
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they go into the half, they're
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team pulls away in the third and
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worse than the fourth, except for
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of these games have been complete blowouts
where we rarely even see the starters in

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the fourth. But it's it's it's
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and again and again. And sure, I mean that is due to the

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roster, that is to do to
who we're down. But you're telling me

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there's nothing like that. You're telling
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like to pull out a win with
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that's the case, I mean,
we'll talk about the we'll talk about the

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Tys edition. But like, if
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might already be time to pack it
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last night in particular, every game
has its own story, of course,

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but last night, you're up seven
with six minutes left. Jokic comes back

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in PJ. Tucker is doing an
admirable job against him, but then he's

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taken out with about three and a
half minutes left. The Clippers have James

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Harden, Paul George Kawhi, Leonard
Terrence Man, and Norman Powell out there.

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They are extremely small. Jokic is
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shot or missing the shot, leading
to offensive rebounds, one put back by

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him within the last three minutes,
one by Aaron Gordon. It's just so

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difficult to defend him that way because
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the open guy. And even if
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because you're double teaming him, triple
teaming him, you're not gonna have bodies

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there to grab that board. So
it wasn't even just him, like I

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thought that Reggie, like that the
easy run where Paul George had his back

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to him in the fourth, that
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Like they got contributions from other guys, and yeah, the defense is so

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soft obviously when they're small, but
like they're still just failing to score.

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Then the Nuggets go. It was
like a seventeen to five run in the

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game, wasn't so Yeah, it
was nineteen to nine the last six minutes

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after the Clippers led by seven,
But the Nuggets scored or missed a free

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throw on every single possession from the
six minute mark in. They literally could

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not get a stop against them,
and well ball got them back into it.

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I think there was a time there
where you had to readjust But I

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think the shot that made coach Lou
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that three pointer by Norman Powell.
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He would have taken him out.
I think he makes the three. And

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coach lou says, look, it's
a trade off, and he said postgame

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he knows it. It's a tradeoff. You're trading offense for defense. You're

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leaning into offense. But that three
point? Why score? Well, they

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couldn't score all like the last three
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it was like twenty six to twenty
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I like could be like, fine, yeah, that's a game.

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That's a game that you lose.
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thing, like this team can't score
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the floor. They I mean,
nine points in six minutes obviously isn't good.

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That's an eighteen point quarter. Does
some of this stuff happen sometimes in

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the fourth quarter? Yes, But
to your point of in crunch time in

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particular, I was just running the
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It's an official thing now in NBA
dot com. It originally started on

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an obscure website eighty two games dot
com fifteen to twenty dot com. Yeah,

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killer, but the Clippers in games
in the last five minutes within five

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points, and they've been in five
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five. Offensively, in those situations, they are shooting twenty five percent.

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Their defensive rating on those situations is
even more alarming their defensive rating, their

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offensive rating is one oh six point
seven. For reference, the worst offensive

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rating in the league by a team
is one oh four, So it's bad.

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One o six point seven is bad. You know what's really bad.

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They're defensive rating in the last five
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It's one hundred and forty point eight. Now we're talking about twenty three minutes

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total of clutch time in these five
games. It's not a lot, but

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it is part of how you lost
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They were not good when their best
was required. And if we talked

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about sorry I had to my handyman's
at my door. We're getting a new

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water heater. Have we talked about
have we talked about Kawhi Adam. You

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posted his shooting splits as the game
goes on, and a lot of people

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have been talking about how he doesn't
look right. I'm not here to speculate

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about health. I'm not we're not
talking about that, but he hasn't been

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as Kawhi miss late in the game. You didn't think defensively he was like

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pretty Kawhi last game. No,
that's the thing. Defensively it's great,

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but offensively, I think that was
my next point. He's suffering because of

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that. He's having to do a
lot of defense and it's and he's also

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not getting enough shots to start the
game. I don't think, but I

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believe we saw that in both last
season and the second year of two to

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one three. At the beginning,
offensively, Kawhi, he you know,

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like it was a little still start. I feel like I remember multiple hit

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pieces that were like, is Kawhi's
mid range game not what it once was?

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You know, like stuff like that. Yeah, so I hear you.

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I mean, you know the thing
is with this town, we go

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as far as you know, two
and three goes. So it definitely is

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troubling in a six game losing streaks
seven games, sure, and it's obviously

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magnified by that because we've been losing
all these games, which is he's gonna

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get put under a microscope. Well, there's a few things on that to

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me, that are worrisome. One
we talked about all summer. Is it

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more physical to play the three or
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Is there less movement when you're playing
the four, but it's more physical

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overall because you're battling for boards and
therefore more taxing. Or is it more

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taxing to chase guys around the perimeter. It could be related to him playing

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the four. Another reason maybe this
starting lineup isn't the way to go because

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somehow flowing under the radar that you
know, Paul George and Kawhi Leonard just

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got bumped up positions. He's really
talking about it. Yeah, and so

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what we continue to run two guards? So yeah, I mean, it

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seems like there's a solution for that, but I don't know. Well,

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we've talked about that, but I'm
saying maybe this is the side effect Kawhi

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Leonard his legs, he's giving so
much defensively and he was great that Steely

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had getting it to Paul George was
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ever. And I thought his effort
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played on Jokicic. Look, Jokic
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They had their opportunity with him having
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thirteen to thirteen from the free throw. One part of that why I thought

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Kwi did a really good job of
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on Yokic, which is, you
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him out of rhythm, just got
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bit. You're not going to stop
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It's why we saw in the offseason
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try to find the defensive answer to
Jokic. They just found guys. They're

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like, all right, we need
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We need to put up one hundred
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the Kawhi splits by quarter of how
many shot attempts, his field goal percentage

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in three point percentage, and basically
through ten games this season, he starts

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off in the first quarter shooting fifty
three percent from the field. By the

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fourth quarter he's at thirty eight percent. Now the second and fourth quarters he's

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taking far less shots. He starts
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first quarter, then three point one
in the second he's playing less minutes,

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then five point eight shots in the
third quarter they try to get him going,

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then just three point three shots in
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Kawi. Basically, more is more
when he's taking more shots. There seems

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to be a clear correlation that he's
getting in rhythm. The more shots he

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is taking per quarter has a direct
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And now that's all ten games.
If you just look at the five

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games with James Harden, obviously his
attempts are way down. Four point eight

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the first quarter, okay, but
just two shots in the second quarter,

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just two point three shots in the
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of the fourth quarter with James Harden
thirty three percent from the field, thirty

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three percent from the outside. So
he's taking the fewest amount of shots now

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in a fourth quarter, maybe in
a long time in his career, since

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he became, you know, a
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This is not good. You don't
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or this big four and have Kawhi
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key to winning a championship. You
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option on a championship team. You
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looks like the best player that can
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option. And right now, the
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think is the most he has taken
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not enough. That's crazy. That's
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talk about this offense, I mean, you know, you can't judge everything

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off of box score, but like, just look at the field goal attempts,

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look at the distribution among the team, and you know, it's pretty

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clear that something is broken with the
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guys shots and that I mean,
that's why they're failing to score. Well,

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it seems simple enough to me.
It's shots. It's difficult some in

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some ways because Okay, Paul George
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twenty shots to get his thirty five, but Russ and Kawi took essentially the

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same amount of shots, right,
and I'm not And that's where Terrence Man,

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a fishing three point shooter, took
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solid game, only took seven shots. Like these are things like I I

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It's not just him, but like
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I know that it's not as simple
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happen in the within the flow of
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a greater effort on on running those
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having back pocket plays. Man,
sometimes we look terrible coming out of a

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timeout or a stoppage. And I
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wannerstand how even even this deep in, like you know, I know we're

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only ten games, but like I
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you don't have something in your back
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know we can go to this it
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we have Option BC, but I'm
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seeing that on the court. It's
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right, that's a good point.
It hasn't looked sophisticated enough. And some

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of that with James Harden. Okay, they're figuring each other out, but

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then you drop a play at the
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George take a tough three pointer over
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we seen that? That's not just
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were they not using the clock at
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I just don't get it, like
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I just it's That's the thing that's
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team losing games missing shots, but
the process looks good, and I just

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we're not seeing a lot of process. This thing just feels very cyclical so

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far through the James aren't experiment I
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comes to that game in Denver,
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end of the ball game, there's
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game. It's never certain against Nikola
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left, you have to find a
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the fouls. If you got the
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They were fouling. Anyways, if
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afford to foul him out, Denver
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They couldn't defend without fouling, So
what's one more guy that can't do

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it? And at least when he's
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and playing with Jokis one on one, so you have other guys there to

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get boards. Do we want to
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to talk about it during the some
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or not, listeners, we have
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last game. Let's yeah, let's
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All right, Do we have any
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the Clippers right now? We want
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into the positive segment after the ad
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which we'll talk about, but I
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on everything there. We'll mention the
Russell Westbrook going four twelve eight points,

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not trying to pile on, but
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It's just it just doesn't make sense. It's just it's not a recipe

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to win games. And I just
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you can't script the whole thing.
I get that. But if you see

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the same thing again and again and
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one of the guys that has to
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take twenty six shots because he's hot, that's already taking shots away from Kawhi.

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You have to let Kawhi get to
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please, absolutely, So therefore,
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And Russ missed some easy ones in
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great plays too where they found him
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Man for dunks. But overall,
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well, Russ was on the court
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at his plus minus, and it's
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court at that point, Like that's
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minutes you were trying to win.
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starting five I think ended up winning
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and third quarters. That's encouraging.
That's a good sign because the starting five

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overall has been awful for the Clippers, and their offensive rating is ninety.

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The worst offensive rating by a team
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and the Clippers starting five in the
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They're shooting thirty eight percent. Those
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shooting thirty eight percent in about sixty
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How that that's almost impossible. That
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is for you? Forty three percent
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from those guys. It's not clicking. It's not clicking. It's clicking down.

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but it's clicking down. But there
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you know, bring us back up. Click, We've been clicked down,

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Click us back up? All right, what are some things that we

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can appreciate and look forward to from
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fantastic beat reporter for the Clippers.
Go follow him at fly by Night on

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Twitter, he tweeted out some stats
that I know Will is going to be

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excited about. In terms of PJ. Tucker and we talked about Norman Powell.

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Am I the PJ Vandwagon. Now, I don't know how I got

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that. Your hot was that he
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it. I think that's fair.
Oh that was wild And I'm a big

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PJ Guy. I posted the footage
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Will last night. But you didn't
say he should start well. Only Will

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come up with something. Absolutely,
But so Justin Rousso treated this out.

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They found something with Norman Powell and
five out lineups. There is a caveat

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to this, which we'll talk about, but they're plus nineteen and fifty eight

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minutes when Norm Powell is on the
floor without a big. It's been minus

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sixty two in one hundred and eighty
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Norm Powell, with Pale or PJ
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eleven and twenty eight minutes in five
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offensive rating with Norm Powell in a
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The flip side of this, the
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one hundred and fourteen defensive rating and
one hundred and ten overall with Powell in

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those lineups, so you're just kind
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That's not bad. But Norman the
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We've talked about the spacing with Norm
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one of the guards, and so
there's something there. And then add on

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that is PJ Tucker not as a
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A take that Will said, maybe
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They're minus one in forty six minutes
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which is not bad all things considered. In the six game losing streak,

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that's not that bad. It's minus
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with a big, So like it
seems like there's a clear signs it doesn't

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make any sense. I can't the
other It doesn't make any sense to play

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to play PJ Tucker with another day
totally. I texted us is Shuck multiple

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times during games. It doesn't like, why are we doing it? Doesn't

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know? We talked about it the
other day. Here I'm like, you

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want to play him at the four
if not the five? Where else can

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you put PJ Tucker. That's the
only place. So these two stats lead

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me to believe that if Norm is
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and PJ is out there as the
five, Hey things might not be

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so bad. Is that crazy?
What was their defensive rating? Again,

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it doesn't matter, okay, so
does one. So the defensive rating with

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Norm Powell and a five out lineup
is one hundred and fourteen. Sorry,

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not that one hundred and ten?
Not crazy if the because because also these

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lineups are there to score, right, Like, if Norms scored, that's

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what we want in these lineups.
We're like, it's not that's borderline top

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ten or around tenth defensively, Okay, it's not, like, but they've

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also been shooting a little crazy,
So like it is a small sample size,

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but the offense is there, and
the Clippers offenses look bad all the

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way around. So like, I'm
with it. Let's get these norm at

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the two PJ at the five lineups, put one of choir PG out there.

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Fill in the rest. I'm here
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Let's do that, right, Like, I don't know, I just wasn't

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sure if PG counted as playing five
out. I know he hit a couple

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of three pointers and they were big
shots against Denver, but you also stepped

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out of bounce on one. He
hasn't exactly looked comfortable. Means, yeah,

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I was thinking overall, right now
is one thirteen? Yeh, Like

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it's the same. It seems the
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Yeah, I if you're going to
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he has to play. He can't
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It has to be four guys that
can shoot next to Tucker to utilize,

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you know, his defense, his
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Well. Also, did you guys
see the article from the Fantastic OC

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Register If you're not subscribing, go
ahead and subscribe about PJ. Tucker wanting

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kind of more minutes than to be
a glue guy. Yeah. I heard

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it was framed. I didn't read
the actual quotes. I heard Lucas Hahn

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talking about it on the lob the
Jim. It's a little pushed up with

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that. It's like headliney, of
course. But I don't think PJ.

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Tucker would be mad if he was
playing the because we're we added we're seemingly

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going to add Daniel Tye in two
days when he clears Waivers, which is

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like we're kind of up in the
air, so like, I really hope

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we don't play Tyson Tucker together because
that seems like a nightmare too. Uh,

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but I think PJ would be,
I don't know, playing at the

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five, like he's getting cooked at
the four a little bit. Well,

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it's just if he's at the four, that means there's another big that means

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zu Bots is next to him,
and therefore there's no spacing. That's not

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gonna work. Yeah, it only
worked with him, b because you're talking

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about a completely different then beats.
Yeah too. But I'm still this isn't

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a huge revelation to me, PJ
Tucker. Here we go, we found

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our guy or something like that.
I think at best he should be playing

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about ten to fifteen minutes a night. Well, sure, in a perfect

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world, a perfect world, Julius
Randall wouldn't have bull rush Mason Pluckley's lower

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body. But that's about what he's
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But with Ty's gonna play PJ,
which we all know, it's kind

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of like Marcus Moore's Part two a
little bit. But Pj's better at the

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five. I just hope this happens. I just hope this continues to happen

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while we work out Daniel Tyson's fit
with this team too well. I think

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it was smart against Denver. He
has a history of playing Jokic tough.

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There's other guys though he can do
that with San goon Is Baby Joker.

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They're taking on the Rockets on Friday. I do think there's real utility and

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usefulness to PJ. Tucker, unlike
with what we saw with Marcus the last

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three months of the season. Let's
just be honest about it. I think

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it's very different. PJ. Tucker
is playing hard, defensively, is out

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there, even at his age,
moving pretty well. Yeah, I think

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he has value. We got some
small sample theater as well. Russ PG

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Terrence Kawhi PJ in three minutes plus
five against the BLUs against the But that

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lineup, I'm also not mad at
the idea of that lineup. That's not

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the craziest sounding lineup, No,
I was. I was happy when they

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got PJ. Tucker. I thought
coach lou would find a place to put

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him in. What do you mean, Uh, he's been one of my

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favorite players, how darre that's fair? Well, are you like Carl Tart?

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Are you going to get the jersey? I think Carl Tarts aren't get

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jerseys for anyone anymore too old for
that ass. But uh yeah, I

405
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:33,839
like PJ. Tucker. I like
his mindset. Do you have the exact

406
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,359
quotes? Though from that article,
one of them sounded a little bit worrisome

407
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,039
with how many minutes he was looking
to get. But let me log into

408
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:48,680
my subscriber log in. Yeah see, I I mean that's fine. I

409
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:52,680
just I hope he's not going to
be too disappointed because right now he's averaging

410
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,599
fifteen point seven minutes per night as
a Clipper, which is understandable. Yeah,

411
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:04,599
if you will, Wait, what
I didn't miss signed? I forgot

412
00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:12,119
about the OC what people always do
bro get about Bill Pluckett, I don't

413
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:15,640
think. Okay, yeah, so
I think here's the quote you're talking about.

414
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,960
Tucker, however, isn't crazy about
the limited minutes he is seeing with

415
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,519
the talent laden Clippers. In five
games, he's averaged twenty minutes. Oh

416
00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:30,319
sorry, let me get the quote
out you're about to say. And in

417
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,319
five games he's averaging just fourteen point
four minutes and played thirteen minutes. It

418
00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:40,599
feels like twenty. He's hoping to
play more. When the Clippers traveled to

419
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,640
Denver on Tuesday to take on the
defending champion Nuggets. Here's what he said.

420
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,119
I went from thirty minutes a game
starting to playing ten minutes coming off

421
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,839
the bench. Tucker said, it's
a huge adjustment for me. I probably

422
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,119
have the most adjustment than anybody.
Okay, but I'm a professional. I

423
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,440
come in and do my job every
night, do my job and leave it

424
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:06,000
out there on the court in the
time that I get. So I think

425
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:11,920
I feel Adam's trepidation based on that
quote, because it's like, I think

426
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,720
it's tough when a guy's talking about
how he wants more minutes and he's like,

427
00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:15,960
but I still do my job well, and it's like, well,

428
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,160
it maybe seems like you might not
if you're not getting as much minutes,

429
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,559
because that's where this conversation starts,
just because you can't. I mean,

430
00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:26,960
you know, like I said in
my wild take, like he could be

431
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,119
in the starting lineup. I feel
like you have to find especially when you're

432
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,920
down a big you have to find
ways to make him the most effective he

433
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,599
can be on the floor. It's
just never gonna happen with subots, So

434
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:40,119
I don't I'm just thinking what would
he be saying if Mason Plumbley wasn't out

435
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,440
right now beginning no minutes? What
are we talking about? Like, he's

436
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,240
been here a week and a half. Like I like the guy too,

437
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,160
But what was the part about sacrifice? Yeah, well, he's got the

438
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,480
hardest role of anybody. I don't
know if that's accurate. So I think

439
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,839
we should maybe keep PJ. Tucker
quote watch going. That might have to

440
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,680
be something. Shout out the OCI
registerers who mind. I just can't believe

441
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,000
he's whatever. It's a wild quote. It's a kind of a crazy Shout

442
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,519
out Janis car she took over from
William Swanson over for the Clippers on the

443
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:15,400
OSCI register. Shout out Janis.
This is a great piece. So let's

444
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:21,039
talk someone Liken to my best,
dude, this is a positive segment.

445
00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:23,960
I brought a lot to the table. I'm arguing against two angry brick walls

446
00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:29,640
right now. So let's talk Daniel
Tice, because you guys might have to

447
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,680
convince me that this is a this
is this is a positive move. We

448
00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:37,119
haven't really like he's going to clear
waivers and if all things goes well,

449
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,079
I believe it's Friday, he can
sign with the Clippers. Or something like

450
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:51,599
that. How are we feeling about
this addition? I mean, yeah,

451
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,200
originally we were like, oh,
how could they even get him? He

452
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:59,400
makes nine million dollars and we were
all complaining to their brick in the wall.

453
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,559
Were all complaining about, well,
why haven't they made a move yet.

454
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,359
Well, it appears the front office
wasn't just sitting on their hands or

455
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:09,720
something. They were waiting to see
if he was bought out. He was

456
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,880
so smart on their part. It
looks like that's what's happening. I'm intrigued,

457
00:32:16,079 --> 00:32:21,039
honestly because I was a fan with
him with Boston. I don't know

458
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,759
where he's at physically though in his
career. I know he's just thirty years

459
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:28,480
of age, but I think he's
had some injuries. People have talked about

460
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:35,480
his play in Foba this summer and
how good. Yeah, so I look

461
00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:38,240
obviously it is as low of a
risk as you can get at this point.

462
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,839
So I'm not hating on it at
all. And he does have some

463
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,359
of the skill set you'd like to
see, especially now with James Harden in

464
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,720
the short role. Like someone tweeted
out like he's going to be here to

465
00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:52,279
be in the pick and roll and
I'm like, that's great, like that,

466
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:54,680
that is exactly what he's going to
be used for, is the play

467
00:32:54,680 --> 00:33:00,160
connector He's going to play very up
tempo defense and you know, set the

468
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:05,759
tone there and stuff like that.
I'm still just not seeing how it helps

469
00:33:05,839 --> 00:33:07,480
the size problem with the Clippers.
It does fill in, well, it

470
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:12,400
plays big. Yeah, it fills
in one of the six to eight height

471
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,039
you know, roster holes we had
losing the Tomb and Roco and stuff like

472
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:20,160
that. So and he does play
big, but I hope he plays big.

473
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:22,160
I just hope it works. I
don't know exactly who the alternative would

474
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,160
be. I think we talked about
Nerlin's nol on here, but ty doesn't

475
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,559
want to play like that. He's
you know, I bet like Daniel Tye

476
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,519
is gonna be on the floor later
in games. And I think maybe some

477
00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:36,799
of us are expecting or want to
start because he helps the offense more than

478
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:38,440
he helps the Clippers defense. And
I think that's kind of I think that's

479
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,759
fair because that's what ty preference is. Yeah, I don't know. My

480
00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:46,759
thing with this is it This was
another one of those ones that felt a

481
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:51,759
little bit inevitable, so it wasn't
necessarily like a surprise and sign. I'm

482
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:54,039
glad that they did address it.
I'm glad that they didn't weigh any line

483
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:58,799
because you know, it's just apparent
they don't have the size. And while

484
00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:01,559
this isn't a seven foot it was
kind of the best we could do.

485
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:07,039
And yeah, I mean, given
the like the buy out market and stuff,

486
00:34:07,199 --> 00:34:13,480
obviously this isn't I mean hoping that
the nothing has gotten worse with the

487
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,840
Mason plumb lea timeline or what that
injury is projected to be is reevaluated,

488
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,039
and like yeah, so you know, like so assuming that that is still

489
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:23,880
like on a similar timeline, it's
not something you want to you know,

490
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:30,119
like obviously you can't really even ship
out any more players or certainly certainly any

491
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:34,800
assets to fill the whole of of
you know, like a of the backup

492
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,000
center. But I am glad that
they addressed it. And getting him for

493
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:45,000
nothing, essentially you know, just
pay is Yeah, I mean, I

494
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:50,360
I cannot think of of a better
like realistic move. Yeah, that's a

495
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,119
good call. Does anyone else feel
like he looks a little bit like white

496
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:57,840
chocolate? Jason Williams, let me
let me we have the shaved head I'm

497
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,920
watching highlights right now Germany versus USA
at FOEBA, and he did box the

498
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,760
hell out of Mikhale Bridges put him
into the stanchion almost. So yeah,

499
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,320
we're gonna get that. That's gonna
be good stuff. You're concerned, And

500
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,400
I love the numbers you put out
earlier today, Chuck, but just people

501
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:22,840
getting overly excited about his shooting potential. Please lay out the numbers because I

502
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,440
thought that I found that interesting.
He's not as much of a stretch five

503
00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:34,239
is drum Man Carl Is like he
does not have Twitter that I rewatched that

504
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,159
clip. I am. I've never
sounded that disappointed, I think on this

505
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:44,360
podcast. And when I went Andre
Drummond anyway, Bro, no, he's

506
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:49,639
not. He can't shoot threes.
So Daniel Tice, a lot of people

507
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:53,280
were saying like, oh, he
can stretch the floor, like he's gonna

508
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:58,559
be a good stretch big to have
out there for the spacing, and that

509
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,519
is not true over the last years, over last two full seasons, so

510
00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:06,920
not counting this one where he has
one appearance, forty one percent of his

511
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:10,719
attempts are from zero to three feet
from the basket, so a hefty amount

512
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,880
of his shots come right at the
basket, twenty percent have come from three

513
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:21,119
to ten feet and he shot sixty
one percent there. Good, good,

514
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,480
good, good, Daniel Tice right
there. He has no shot attempts from

515
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:30,920
between ten feet and the arc,
just none, like it's been like less

516
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,920
than three percent of his shots or
something like that. And then in the

517
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,760
last two seasons, twenty five percent
of his shots have come from three point

518
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:44,239
range, where he has shot twenty
six percent. This is not a guy.

519
00:36:44,679 --> 00:36:46,400
He's gonna do very good things for
the Clippers. I think, I

520
00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:52,320
think he will be a good fit. But he's not gonna stretch the floor

521
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,760
like this that we're not gonna see
some you know, new like when Daniel

522
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,239
Tice is out there with the bench. We're not gonna see some beautiful motion

523
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,000
well playing will that's a good name. We're not gonna see some beautiful motion

524
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:13,320
offense opened up by Daniel Tye's spacing
presence for the Clippers. And that is

525
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,760
also okay. But if you're thinking
he's gonna be a stretch big, he's

526
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,239
not big and he doesn't shoot from
far out, so he doesn't like Look,

527
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:28,400
man, if we could get sixty
to seventy percent of what we can

528
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,760
get from Mason Plumbley, which maybe
that's even asking a lot. The Clippers

529
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,239
can at least, you know,
win some games and not complete and not

530
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,320
have a second unit that's getting like
completely annihilated out totally. He will help

531
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:45,159
the second unit so much, which
I am I This isn't a ceiling raising

532
00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:46,960
move. This is a this is
a floor raising. This is a you

533
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,920
know, there is no floor right
now. The floor is gone. We

534
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,400
are falling through a house that was
poorly built. There's no floor. Yeah,

535
00:37:55,639 --> 00:38:01,119
this is the completely off and this
is us attempting to pull the second

536
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:04,760
one. Yeah, we're Peggy Hill
jumping out of the plane right now.

537
00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:08,440
It's what it's what it feels like. The one consistent thing I'm seeing here

538
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:14,719
in these highlights versus USA, the
Germany USA FOBA game is he is contesting.

539
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,159
Every time somebody attacks the basket,
he's getting it hand up. So

540
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,639
he's probably gonna fall watching the highlights
while we're doing a podcast, Man,

541
00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:27,559
this is what's wrong with our generation. You can't even focus up for a

542
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:35,519
little podcast. You're always chatting with
friends. Adam's in an internet cafe chat

543
00:38:35,559 --> 00:38:42,039
room is nice and stuff. No
like that that like the grid is nice,

544
00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:45,000
Like this is a great signing from
a like we need a little more

545
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:50,039
grit perspective. For sure. I'm
curious to see what happens when Mason Plumbate

546
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:55,719
comes back, but that's hopefully not
to some size and some options. Yeah,

547
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,199
and I think I don't know,
he might not play PJ. Tucker.

548
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:04,679
Who knows. Probably maybe. I
don't think it's not hard to read

549
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:09,840
those quotes again, all right,
any other positive till until Tys has those

550
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,599
exact same quotes. Okay, so
he okay, wait, we should talk

551
00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:17,000
about that, because he's talked about
that with the pacers. They have two

552
00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:21,639
young, very good guys, and
they're playing very well in front of him.

553
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:22,800
But he's also like, I came
to the papers to play, I

554
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:28,880
had a gold medal. What's up
with that? So I guess something to

555
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,440
keep an eye on. I hope
there's not another I mean, I hope

556
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,280
I get to read another OC Register
piece, but I hope it's not about

557
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,800
PJ. Tucker and Daniel Tice teaming
up to form more minute squad. Well,

558
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,159
I would say this to people worried
about his size, and you're on

559
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,079
point with the shooting of course,
Chuck. But if we're talking about PJ.

560
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,280
Tucker and what he can do with
the five with his size, well,

561
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,199
he's shorter than Tys. I know
he's stout and he's wide, but

562
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:59,719
what he's six five? Yeah,
Tys is six' eight. So we're

563
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:07,400
talking it's fifteen minutes a night.
Yeah, he's also old the most important

564
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:15,440
staff for basketball. Okay, So
no, so no more positive notes before

565
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,519
we get into the Clippers verse Rockets
preview. Not like we did a pretty

566
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:22,039
good job with that one, no, I mean, what about the fact

567
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:27,239
that James Harden had twenty one and
looked by far his best so far as

568
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,239
a Clipper. That third quarter was
special. He had ten of his twenty

569
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,159
one. They he had nineteen of
his twenty one points in the first quarter

570
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:37,199
in the third quarter, but that
third he went on that run. There

571
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,519
was some excitement there. Him hitting
that three to end the third quarter,

572
00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:44,039
we thought until Aaron Gordon knocked down
that one with three seconds left, but

573
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:49,320
he had a nice blowby. He
also missed a layup unfortunately in the fourth

574
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,719
quarter that would go big. I
think some of that it's the Jokic effect,

575
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,159
but also I'm hoping that's part of
the rust, that he's still just

576
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,320
shedding at the moment getting off,
and that I don't know. I was

577
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:06,880
encouraged by the fact that he looked
like seventy five percent oh, getting off,

578
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:09,880
he looked like seventy five percent of
James Harden. Yeah, and he

579
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,239
scored from all three levels. If
I want people to go back and look

580
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,719
at the shot chart from his game, he had two buckets right at the

581
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,000
left elbow, he had three right
at the rim, and I think he

582
00:41:19,039 --> 00:41:23,480
had four freeze or something like that. Beautiful get He scored his first buckets

583
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,840
at the rim for the Clippers last
night, which is I was gonna say,

584
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,599
terrifying, but also good going forward. No, that what's more important

585
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:37,519
than that. The entire reason we
think they're going through this transitional phase is

586
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:43,199
because of James Harden, and he's
starting to come around. If they win

587
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,559
that game last night, I mean, which they easily could have, what

588
00:41:46,599 --> 00:41:50,880
are the talking points going to be? James Harden looks much better. They're

589
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:57,880
figuring it out. Yeah, talking
points. Well, because I'm bringing it

590
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:05,599
up Charles before the game, Yeah, yeah, exactly. So you're looking

591
00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:07,920
for positives. I think this is
kind of a big one. It is.

592
00:42:08,039 --> 00:42:15,519
It's a very that is a very
okay one. Turnover. Will's favorite

593
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:22,239
statussis the turnover ratio. What say
you Will? That's pretty meedy mey rage.

594
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:29,239
All right, we're gonna get too
Clippers versus Rockets preview. It's mid

595
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,960
season tournament. The Clippers I think, were the first team mathematically eliminated from

596
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,000
being able to win their group.
Pretty cool, I mean, kind of

597
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:40,320
fun. First team in history.
So we're gonna preview how they can spoil

598
00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:44,719
the Rockets. Ads have been loud. We got ads coming up in the

599
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:51,639
Rockets Reviewing three two. What welcome
back in Clips and Dip season two.

600
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,559
I'm Adam Ausland. We got Chuck
Mockler and Will Updyke here. Of course

601
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:59,239
I'm one of the angry bricks in
the wall. I'm just the second one

602
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,119
though, Will is. As we
put Chuck and the Grinder bring it up

603
00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:09,519
negativity in our positive segment. But
important notes that I think Baird mentioning,

604
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:15,039
So this is an interesting matchup.
On Friday, I know Chuck was doing

605
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:17,719
some deep dives on the Houston Rockets
and we're all kind of wondering, how

606
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:22,239
have they had this big turnaround.
We know about the Fred van Bleet signing,

607
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,280
we know about Dylan the Villain and
his eighty million dollar contract, but

608
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,360
what's come together for them because it
seems like they're starting to pair that veteran

609
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,960
leadership with the youth they've had,
and it's working so far. They smack

610
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,239
the Lakers around, and they beat
the Denver Nuggets, So two teams the

611
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,880
Clippers lost to, Yeah, I
don't. I mean if you just look

612
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,159
at like the team stats, so
their defensive rating is sixth, which,

613
00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:52,079
yeah, that's where it's coming from. Because offensively, they're not lighting it

614
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:55,480
up at all. They're twentieth in
points. They're seventh and three point attempts,

615
00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:00,000
but they hit a below average amount, and they're seventeenth and two point

616
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:04,199
in attempts. Are their seventeenth and
two point percentage, but twentieth in attempts.

617
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,920
It's like it's not like they're shooting
some crazy efficient number. Their defense

618
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:14,960
has just been really, really good. They hold offensive rating though eleventh yor

619
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,719
just outside the top ten, right, but they're averaging one hundred and eleven

620
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,079
points in this game, which but
that's why you don't go off of points

621
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:24,599
per game because the pace can flip
can skew that right. Offensive rating levels

622
00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:28,440
out the pace. You play at
a faster pace, you get more shots

623
00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:30,559
up. Put the gun away,
I'm sorry, the guns out of the

624
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:35,360
holster. Now, boys, go
ahead, Okay, go No. I

625
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,920
was going to point out the one
thing I think they've had going for them,

626
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,920
And I don't know if it's fluky
or not, but I believe they're

627
00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:46,159
second in three pointers made against teams
are only shooting thirty two percent from three

628
00:44:46,199 --> 00:44:50,719
against them. It could be weird, wacky shooting variants and they're just getting

629
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,119
lucky so far, or their perimeter
defense is elite. That to me is

630
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:59,280
the one thing that really stuck out. Yeah, it's it's definitely their defense.

631
00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:01,559
Was I was going to get to, So, how can the Clippers

632
00:45:01,639 --> 00:45:10,039
busted offense break this seemingly really good
defense hit threes? Which is what teams

633
00:45:10,039 --> 00:45:15,039
aren't doing against the defense that way, and the Clippers are top five and

634
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:17,360
three point percentage. If we're looking
for some positives with the Clippers offense,

635
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:21,599
they are shooting I think just over
thirty seven percent from the outside as a

636
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:27,440
team. Uh yes, thirty seven
percent, eighteenth in attempts. So we

637
00:45:27,519 --> 00:45:31,280
hope that that goes up a little
bit and our average scoring is a lot

638
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:38,079
better than what the Rocket shoot you
mentioned Segoon before. He's averaging nineteen eight

639
00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:43,880
and six. He was like the
basketball nerds Darling two years ago people were

640
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,880
like rock Every Rockets fan I knew
was like, this dude is gonna be

641
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:51,320
the truth. He seemingly is so
far, what are we looking at Zoo

642
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,519
against Igun? Because I think Zoo's
gonna be pissed off about his four fouls

643
00:45:54,559 --> 00:46:01,840
and not being good offensively against Nuggets. He was two for eight. I

644
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:06,559
thought he missed some easy ones.
There's still miscues where Harden is setting guys

645
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:09,920
up beautifully. I think Paul George
had a pass that he dropped or Harden

646
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,840
ran a beautiful pick and roll.
But the other side of that is Harden

647
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:20,360
got to the lane and got a
layup because the just thread of the pick

648
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,920
and roll running it with a Vitza
Zubots, they stayed with him. Harden

649
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,960
was able to get that layup.
That was huge for him against Denver,

650
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:31,079
But I just feel like if eats
a Zoobots, you know, he had

651
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:34,840
seven offensive rebounds, Like, what
are we talking about? Two for eight?

652
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,760
I could care less. He had
seven offensive rebounds, thirteen boards.

653
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,760
He looked that was his best game
to me, despite going two for eight,

654
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,360
that was the best to me Beata
Zoobots has looked. And that's why

655
00:46:46,159 --> 00:46:49,599
I'm a little bit discouraged by the
fact he didn't play late. I think

656
00:46:49,639 --> 00:46:52,320
he could have been the difference maker. So yeah, he might come out

657
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,280
with his hair on fire and upset
that he didn't play late in that ballgame.

658
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,679
I hope he does. I hope
he gets some kind of light minutes

659
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,440
or something like that. Will what
are you looking for? The Rockets don't

660
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,679
really turn the ball over, which
is tough, Like what what do you

661
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,519
want to see from the clips in
this one? Another encouraging thing that we

662
00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:14,840
didn't talk about last game, like
overall low turnovers. Yes, they cleaned

663
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,039
it up because it was rough in
the first quarter. I think they're on

664
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:21,239
pace for like twenty or something like
that. Didn't they just feel like overall,

665
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,599
Hey, they're competing again, they're
playing at a high level. They

666
00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:27,639
lost the game, but it looked
very different with the way they were playing

667
00:47:27,679 --> 00:47:30,599
compared to losses against Memphis, Dallas, Brooklyn. You know, Yeah,

668
00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:36,159
the juice looked a lot better against
this Nuggets team. They do have the

669
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:38,679
two days off, which is sice
and it's a home game. I'm curious

670
00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:42,199
to see what the crowd is going
to be like. But we kind of

671
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,320
talked about some shot attempts from the
Clippers earlier, like, I feel like

672
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,159
it's got to be in tiers.
It's got to be PG and Kohi at

673
00:47:49,159 --> 00:47:52,599
the top of the field goal attempt
tier. No one else can come in

674
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:55,079
this tier. Obviously things are going
crazy. Terrence Man is on pace for

675
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:58,920
thirty nine again, or Russ is
being a few Yeah, someone's on a

676
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,519
heater. Yeah, do your thing. But normal games PG and Choir up

677
00:48:02,519 --> 00:48:07,519
here, then probably Harden, Harden
and Norm. Then I would say,

678
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,360
yeah, like Harden slash Norm and
then like slash dot dot dot Russ.

679
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,719
He can affect the game in other
ways. He can pass, he can

680
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,960
rebound, all that good stuff,
but field goal attempts wise, Lord,

681
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,679
I hope PG and Choir number one
and number two for this game, just

682
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:27,239
for the process's sake, because also
it's a good defense. They should be

683
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,599
shooting the ball more. And Russ
would also just look better if he's just

684
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:36,599
like the issue is like just some
of the shots selection is again borderline mall

685
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:40,280
practice, Like let's let's cut some
of those bad shots out and you'll look

686
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:45,920
better and your assist numbers will be
higher. My friend texts me during the

687
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,679
game, why does Russ throw a
fastball to someone three feet away from him?

688
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,239
And it did make me laugh.
I don't know if it's totally true.

689
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,719
This person has not watched the Clippers
very often, but he was like,

690
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,000
it seems like Russ throws a pass
to that really big guy, really

691
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:01,719
hard, really close with three guys
around him. Said, You're not wrong.

692
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:07,079
Sometimes it does happen. Yeah,
And I feel like there's gonna be

693
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:08,639
a lot of pushback and people are
gonna say, oh, you guys are

694
00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:14,079
Russ haters or something like that.
I want Russ to succeed. I want

695
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:19,960
the teams out of you die.
Yeah, I just I just care about

696
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,639
the team winning. And I think
ultimately for them to have the highest ceiling,

697
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,039
Harden's got to be the third best
player. I just think that is

698
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:30,880
the recipe for this Clippers team being
a contender. It it has to be

699
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:36,599
more about James Harden. I think
the ceilings lower with Russell Westbrook as your

700
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:38,719
third best guy because late in games. Coach Lou took him out late for

701
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:43,840
a reason. He tends to have
some of those wild turnovers, just because

702
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,239
he's at his best when the game's
at a faster pace and the game's gonna

703
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,760
slow down late. I commend Coach
Lou for taking him out the last two

704
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,679
games late and putting in James Harden. No, it didn't work out unfortunately.

705
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:58,480
I don't think that's why they lost
both ballgames. Though people are somewhat

706
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,039
misinterpreting some of the numbers with Russ. It's like, Okay, if he's

707
00:50:01,079 --> 00:50:05,280
on the floor while Norman Powell is
on a heater and has twelve points in

708
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,800
the fourth quarter, is that because
Russ and therefore that plus minus? Is

709
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:14,559
that meaningful? Because it looks much
better for Russell Westbrook just because he happened

710
00:50:14,599 --> 00:50:16,679
to be there when Norman Powell was
going off or Paul George was going off.

711
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:22,280
Maybe there's some correlation there, but
I'm not so sure. Yeah,

712
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,360
it's I don't know. I kind
of wanted to bring something back that we

713
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:30,239
haven't been doing from last game or
from like this season. I don't think

714
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,320
the players. I don't think the
players are realized we haven't been picking player

715
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,559
of the game picks. That's why
we've been losing. There's no motivation.

716
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,400
They have no idea if for who
we think is gonna be player of the

717
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,199
game. I hung my neck on
the line for Marcus Morris last year and

718
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:53,239
look where it got us nowhere.
But who are our picks for players of

719
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:58,639
the game. I am gonna go
first, and I am going to say

720
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,239
this is easy. I'm gonna say
Kwhi Leonard. I think he's gonna get

721
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,679
to the line. The Rockets do
not foul or sorry, the Rockets do

722
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,960
foul. They foul like the fifth
most times in the league. And it's

723
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,599
gonna help Kawhi. It's gonna help
him maybe when he's off rhythm, it's

724
00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:16,800
gonna get into a rhythm. We're
seeing vintage Kawhi against the Rockets. Player

725
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:22,400
of the game Kawhi Leonard riverside,
California, Adam, who is your pick?

726
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:28,400
They're gonna have some juice after they
hear I'm gonna go with Big Zoo,

727
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,599
playing angry, playing big, hopefully
not getting discouraged. They didn't come

728
00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:36,400
back in that ball game. Use
it as motivation, Big Zoo. I

729
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,599
know it's been frustrating seeing him not
play late in games for quite some time

730
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:43,119
now, and that was one where
I thought he certainly could have made the

731
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:47,079
difference. But all right, take
it out on Houston, then dominate play

732
00:51:47,159 --> 00:51:52,800
big. I love it, all
right, will my player of the game.

733
00:51:53,360 --> 00:52:02,480
Yes, we've gotten all starters so
far. Take Bones. Oh did

734
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:07,920
you catch at the a little bit
of drama with Bones and that NBA Central

735
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,679
account on Twitter. We should talk
about that. So after the bigger Player

736
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:15,559
of the game, Well, it's
Bones. I believe we've already picked it.

737
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:22,360
So, yeah, we haven't talked
to Chris Hayes article. Yeah,

738
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,559
there's like apparently there's some dispute about, you know, whether Bones is a

739
00:52:25,679 --> 00:52:32,199
part of the regular rotation moving forward, which Bones had some pushback against.

740
00:52:32,519 --> 00:52:36,679
Yeah, he would be, because
I believe the quote was that he was

741
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,559
told he was no longer going to
be a part of the rotation moving forward.

742
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,880
So I think that he read the
aggregated quote, which is why aggregators

743
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,920
are bad. Yeah, because the
actual quote was that Tyler talked to him

744
00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:52,119
and was like, hey, it's
going to be five or six games.

745
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,079
He talked to seven players. Supposedly, we know that for sure one was

746
00:52:55,119 --> 00:52:59,039
Bones. I bet one was also
Zoo, but whatever. But the quote

747
00:52:59,079 --> 00:53:04,880
was I think from Bones that Tyler
said it was gonna be five or six

748
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,360
games while I figured out which,
like isn't it makes total sense, Bone

749
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,760
said, he was, you know, obviously it sucks you want to play,

750
00:53:10,199 --> 00:53:13,239
YadA, YadA, YadA, all
the good stuff you want to hear,

751
00:53:13,639 --> 00:53:16,239
especially when he was like one of
the high points of the season that

752
00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:22,079
absolutely totally wasn't a deal before the
hard trade. And he responded as any

753
00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:27,519
youngster does now when something isn't true
with a little cap emoji, well cap

754
00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:30,320
to let you know that it's not
true. Adam described it us with that

755
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:36,639
emoji means. But I didn't think
the article overall was super spicy, right,

756
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:44,280
like it's the spiciest thing was that
Tyler I'm begging you. Uh.

757
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:49,719
The spiciest thing was that Tyler isn't
married to the starting lineup, which not

758
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,519
a shocker. I didn't see that. Yeah, that was like really yeah,

759
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:58,159
that was buried in there because he
was asked before yesterday's game by Andrew

760
00:53:58,199 --> 00:54:01,079
Greife if he had thought about bringing
Russ off the bench, and he said

761
00:54:01,199 --> 00:54:05,320
no. He talked about the pace
he plays with. They want to start

762
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,960
fast, tempo matters. Huh,
not married to it. But that doesn't

763
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:15,199
necessarily mean Russ's bench. No,
that could mean would be anyone could will

764
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:20,719
could get his dream. But yeah, it wasn't. I guess that was

765
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,079
kind of the spiciest part was that
he's not married to the you know,

766
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:29,400
and everything else was like the stars
know they need to sacrifice and they gotta

767
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,559
play with pace and kind of more
of the same. But yeah, the

768
00:54:32,599 --> 00:54:38,280
starting lineup thing. And then seemingly
it's been what five games with James two

769
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:44,280
ish more games until Bones is back
in the rotation. Does that mean Norms

770
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,840
then out? Because the point of
not having Bones is because you don't want

771
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:52,280
to play small. You can't have
him and Norm out there. I don't

772
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,920
know how they work through that.
Well, you don't think they can at

773
00:54:54,000 --> 00:55:00,519
him, but we might just see
it. I'm just going off of the

774
00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:04,239
reasoning behind it. But I get
what you're saying, should should we bring

775
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,800
it up? Because I'm getting calls
on this people are saying, oh,

776
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:12,159
actively the seat, Yeah, hold
on, guys. I I was like,

777
00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:15,960
you're giving them your home number on
an oh, you want them to

778
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:20,199
play five big men. Yeah,
no, I understand, but they only

779
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:25,000
have like one on the freaking roster
right now. So I've been getting calls

780
00:55:25,039 --> 00:55:30,480
on Coach Lou. Obviously, people
upset last night was all about not playing

781
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:34,760
zoo Bots late. But some people
have talked about him being on the hot

782
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,000
seat. And while I in no
way want to see Coach Lou gone.

783
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:43,320
Yeah, they have lost six in
a row. Sure, they have lost

784
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:49,960
five in a row with James Harden
Uh, I think it's at least worth

785
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,400
monitoring the situation. I think that's
fair because if they lost five more in

786
00:55:54,400 --> 00:56:00,280
a row, oh man, I'll
tell you why that. Yeah, I

787
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,519
mean yeah, if you lose five, if they lose ten in a row,

788
00:56:04,519 --> 00:56:07,039
eleven in a row, I would
not be But I just I don't

789
00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:08,360
think that's gonna happen. I guess
the point of this because I want to

790
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:13,159
put my vote of confidence with Coach
Lou, because I do think he's the

791
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,159
guy to write this ship. He's
the one that can figure out how to

792
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:22,760
make this work, and he's so
unbelievable in a playoff setting. You know,

793
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,440
I just what matters more than that. I know the regular season has

794
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:30,280
been tough at times, and there
have been some interesting calls. You're never

795
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:35,159
gonna agree with your head coach all
the time, that's just unrealistic. But

796
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:39,159
people are starting to talk about it, and I just I want to see

797
00:56:39,159 --> 00:56:43,559
it through with Coach Lou. I
want Coach Lou to have a chance to

798
00:56:43,559 --> 00:56:47,320
figure this thing out. And I'm
not saying, Look, it's just calls

799
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:52,719
that I'm getting. Uh. I
don't think anyone's reporting anything, Chris Haynes

800
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:59,039
or anyone else, but you lose
six in a row. Uh, I

801
00:56:59,079 --> 00:57:05,000
think it's at least worth bringing up. Will I. It's just again,

802
00:57:05,079 --> 00:57:07,280
it's another one of those things like
where what so, what's your big idea

803
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:12,880
for the alternative? Right? Where
are you going with that? Who's righted?

804
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,719
Well, you could say David Blatt
was fired mid season for coach Lou.

805
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:22,280
We're talking about ten games in Yeah, that would be disastrous. How

806
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:27,000
does that help anything? So it's
kind of just something that's like looks so

807
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:34,039
like discombobulated and disjointed. I just
I don't think that more unrest begets,

808
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:38,320
you know, something, something more
cohesive. Yeah, I guess I'm just

809
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:43,480
responding to all the tweets we're seeing
and the calls I've been getting about it,

810
00:57:44,039 --> 00:57:46,920
Like, No, I don't think
that's the solution to anything. I

811
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:51,119
really think if anyone can figure this
out, it is coach Lou and they

812
00:57:51,159 --> 00:57:53,360
will figure it out. But it
doesn't need to start Friday. There's got

813
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:59,000
to be urgency back at home.
If they play the same way they did

814
00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:04,920
against Denver, well, if they
had played that way against Memphis, against

815
00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:08,280
uh I don't know about Dallas,
but against Brooklyn with how under manned they

816
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,719
were, if they played the same
way they did last night, they're winning

817
00:58:10,719 --> 00:58:15,599
those games. Like it's one thing. It stinks in some ways because their

818
00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:21,360
best effort happened to be against the
defending champs, and maybe there's something to

819
00:58:21,519 --> 00:58:24,800
that. Good teams and played down
to lesser teams of times, and that's

820
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,519
been an issue. And you know, we were told that that like wasn't

821
00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:30,519
going to be that wasn't going to
be the game script this year, and

822
00:58:30,639 --> 00:58:35,920
that just hasn't really been the case. I mean, so there's still they

823
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,360
blew out Portland, they blew out
San Antonio. It hasn't been the case

824
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,960
since they brought in Harden. You
know, you could say while they're trying

825
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,840
to sort through this and integrate him. But they they beat up on Orlando

826
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:52,679
like they have had some good wins
where they look dominant. The game against

827
00:58:52,800 --> 00:59:00,760
Utah on the road was tough.
Their wins yeah, and that was fifteen

828
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:07,800
days ago. Their last win seventeen
days were defeated in November. So far

829
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:14,159
are we talking are we talking to
give no quarters standings? Someone was asking

830
00:59:14,159 --> 00:59:16,159
about that, we were talking about
the we were talking about the coaching thing,

831
00:59:16,239 --> 00:59:21,599
and then it kind of I just
want to push back against because we're

832
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:23,679
seeing so much of it on Twitter. I'm getting called no, I agree

833
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:29,199
the Tyler thing. It's like,
okay, so we lose six in a

834
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:34,079
row. That's shitty. When's the
last time a team added a guy added

835
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:37,360
as much gravity in what is going
to be done with the team as James

836
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:44,280
Harden and then five games or ten
games later fired their coach because it wasn't

837
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:50,199
working well, and then seventy whatever
games later said this was a great season.

838
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:58,559
The closest thing that would mirror something
like that would be the Lakers in

839
00:59:58,639 --> 01:00:01,840
the Sports illustrated this this is going
to be fun team with Steve Nash and

840
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:07,000
Dwight Howard when they filed fired Mike
Brown early in the season for D'Antoni.

841
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:12,679
Right now, we didn't end up
working. Kobe went out and they did,

842
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,440
I think, go like twenty eight
and twelve their last forty games of

843
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,519
the season for everything fell apart in
Kobe Tours Achilles, and sure they played

844
01:00:19,519 --> 01:00:21,840
and got swept by the Spurs in
the first round. But no, this

845
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:27,559
is not this is not the direction
to go for more stability with this team

846
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,000
that they've been lacking. I don't
think making a coaching move helps that.

847
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:36,360
And he's and he's in a contract
here, aren't aren't we right about that?

848
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,599
Isn't Tyler in a contract year too? As far as I know,

849
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:43,920
he's extension eligible, just like Paul
George, just like Kawhi Leonard. And

850
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,840
they didn't last year. I remember
there was some talk about that because it

851
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,119
was like, well we got to
kind of see which like, you know,

852
01:00:49,159 --> 01:00:52,639
whatever you want to think about it. But yeah, firing him mid

853
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:57,679
season I would be a lot more
worried about the end of the season if

854
01:00:57,679 --> 01:01:01,800
for firing TYLERU. If Tyler was
fined, He's the one who has a

855
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:07,559
creative enough mind to me to figure
out how to make James Harden work on

856
01:01:07,639 --> 01:01:10,639
this team and if tough decisions have
to be made. Yes, you may

857
01:01:10,639 --> 01:01:16,079
complain about his ten game fifteen game
sample size, but I think it also

858
01:01:16,159 --> 01:01:19,719
gets guys to buy in, to
say, Okay, you gave it a

859
01:01:19,719 --> 01:01:23,199
shot. It's not working. Now
I know why I'm sitting and that kind

860
01:01:23,199 --> 01:01:28,360
of keeps the peace. Yeah,
because I mean, and also think of

861
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,320
the egos you have to manage.
And I know that has a negative connotation

862
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,360
when you say the word egos,
but if you're Paul George Russell, Westbrook,

863
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,960
Kawhi Leonard personalities, I think because
I think what's a great work.

864
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,559
I think part of like being a
coach, like like it or not,

865
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:45,400
is managing personalities. And there's different
ways to do that. But that was

866
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,599
like one of those things that I
never thought, like as good as an

867
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:52,119
X and O's guys guy as he
was, like Doc Rivers was never good

868
01:01:52,119 --> 01:01:58,800
at managing personalities. He was like
some would say horrible at it. Uh,

869
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:02,760
but yeah, like and Tyler has
that respect. A guy who's never

870
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:07,320
been a coach before is not gonna
come in and say I've never been to

871
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:12,079
do it my way, and these
guys are gonna go yeah, yeah,

872
01:02:12,119 --> 01:02:15,440
Like correct me if I'm wrong,
But I just can't. I can't name

873
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,280
a former player of his that's really
come out and been like, oh,

874
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,039
that was like a bad that's a
bad experience, that was a dysfunctional locker

875
01:02:22,159 --> 01:02:25,639
room. That was not that I
can think of. I don't know.

876
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:30,440
Sure everybody around the league. He
seems to have the respect from his peers.

877
01:02:30,679 --> 01:02:34,159
He's always voted as like one of
the best in game adjusters in the

878
01:02:34,199 --> 01:02:38,199
game. I think that should mean
something to Clipper Nation, even during this

879
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:44,360
difficult moment, like it is still
early, there's seventy two games left.

880
01:02:44,519 --> 01:02:46,920
Maybe they're going through their rough patch
of the season at the beginning, and

881
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:51,159
it's more magnified because of that because
they haven't built up that equity with a

882
01:02:51,199 --> 01:02:55,159
winning streak to start things off.
Sure, ugh, I will say I'm

883
01:02:55,159 --> 01:02:59,119
worried about March. I know I
maybe say it every episode, but I'm

884
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:01,280
getting a little worried. Abot.
We got some time, We have a

885
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:06,199
lot, don't worry, baby.
Like the Rockets are on pace to win

886
01:03:06,239 --> 01:03:08,639
fifty five games right now, do
you guys think that's going to happen?

887
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:14,679
Talk to me after the game on
Friday. I'm just saying like, nothing

888
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,360
more likely. This is a Utah
Jazz situation from last season when they get

889
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:22,519
off to a hot start like that
and then Peter off that idea the cream

890
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:24,559
will rise to the top eventually,
and we're hoping the Clippers are part of

891
01:03:24,599 --> 01:03:28,440
it. What was it Chicago like
two years ago where it was like,

892
01:03:28,639 --> 01:03:30,920
Chicago are the Bulls? Actually when
de Rozan came back and it was like,

893
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:35,480
oh shit, every clutch shot possible. Yeah, yeah, that's a

894
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,920
good call. Did we so we
did? Have? We done game picks

895
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,599
for Friday. I think the Clippers. It's a six game losing streak for

896
01:03:40,719 --> 01:03:45,159
a six game winning streak, and
I think the Clippers spoil the Rockets.

897
01:03:46,719 --> 01:03:52,760
God, I hope they do.
We'll have to. I mean, I

898
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:57,119
can have nothing but optimism. They
Yeah, I think they win this game.

899
01:03:57,199 --> 01:04:00,679
I hope. I hope. So
I can have nothing but option I

900
01:04:00,719 --> 01:04:04,800
think they win this. I've been
wrong every other time I've said, oh,

901
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,960
the streak ends, now it's over. We're turning this around. But

902
01:04:09,719 --> 01:04:13,679
that's being said. They got this
one, Streakers is now the money in

903
01:04:13,679 --> 01:04:15,840
the bank, cash, cash the
check. Now, don't even wait till

904
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:23,760
the first this is will Updykes Lock
of the Week first Rock good what bank

905
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,880
guarantee and I think we're uh,
we're all gonna be in the building.

906
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,519
I believe on Friday. I submitted
my creditial re quest. Hopefully that gets

907
01:04:30,519 --> 01:04:32,280
approved. Well, I'm assuming you
submitted yours, Adam. They just they

908
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,760
just let you walk in whenever,
even with the game's not happening. I

909
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:40,960
mean, it's not like or maybe
it would be like Woody Harrelson and Kingpin

910
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,360
where he walks in all cool and
then it goes for that guy's pizza slice,

911
01:04:44,519 --> 01:04:47,079
like it's like, hey, that's
my pizza rules. It's a lot

912
01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:50,360
of the greatest movies. Also,
that movie's so good. All right,

913
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:56,400
we have to get out of here. We're gonna have probably a double dip

914
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:00,840
on Friday after the game. Uh
if we're if we're invited a pod this

915
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,880
weekend, maybe Saturday, maybe Sunday, who knows. The Clippers have kind

916
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,320
of some time off, which is
interesting depending on how early we can get

917
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:13,079
called on the radio. Because going
on a movie, going to a movie,

918
01:05:14,519 --> 01:05:17,880
and I are gonna go, but
it's on Netflix, but it's also

919
01:05:18,599 --> 01:05:21,400
I would much for to watch it
in the theater. I've never seen the

920
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:26,400
Fincher. It's David Fincher. Yeah, I'm not hearing great things, but

921
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,280
whatever, Hey, I just love
I love my movies, love my popcorn.

922
01:05:29,719 --> 01:05:32,360
So we will be back. Reviews
help us over on iTunes. You

923
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,320
can find us on YouTube YouTube dot
com slash at Clippers podcast. Try and

924
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:40,039
beat Adam to being the first comment. He's the only person on the internet

925
01:05:40,039 --> 01:05:43,800
who still comments first, and if
you can beat him, we'll give you

926
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,079
a shout out. Also, if
you've been keeping track of the give no

927
01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:48,239
quarter, please let us know.
We've completely lost track. We'll get back

928
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,960
on track. We'll get back on
track. Luckily there's only ten games.

929
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:56,199
I think we can figure it out. And fun gimmick we came up with,

930
01:05:57,639 --> 01:05:59,840
I Wish You're gonna see me,
crunch on the math on that great

931
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:06,519
and get like eight bucks it's not
that many quarters. Arcade guys, hell

932
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:09,960
yeah we could. All right,
we will be back. Thank you to

933
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,239
everyone. Adam one positive thing before
I give the final send out. Please,

934
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,920
I'm not worried about Kawhi Leonard with
his health. To me, it

935
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:23,519
looks like from the shot charts it's
just about him getting more attempts up.

936
01:06:23,559 --> 01:06:27,159
When he does, he's more efficient, so it's a rhythm thing. Get

937
01:06:27,239 --> 01:06:30,960
him the damn ball and get out
of the way. Please let him cook.

938
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,800
Let him have twenty five shots against
the Houston Rockets. I don't care.

939
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,920
How about that. There we go. That's perfect. We will see

940
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,639
y'all later in the weekend. As
always, let's go Clips.