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got graduation coming up not too far
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graduating college, a nice bottle would
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and just to have on hand for
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birthday that maybe you forget. It's
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I've given that out a lot people, but Juncklate Pie, it is one

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and driven by Victor Chrysler Dods,
Jupe Brahm. It's Bilified the Bill Moran

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Podcast, Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pond on,

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Thanks for telling a friend. That's
how we spread the word about the Pirate

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Ship. Today, I am very
honored to be sitting with Todd Baxter,

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the Sheriff of Monroe County, a
thirty six year veteran of law enforcement twenty

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two years in Rochester. I didn't
realize you had done twenty two years in

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the city of Rochester as an RPD. I started in eighty seven and then

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retired after twenty two years as a
captain, okay, as a captain there,

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and then went on to be the
chief of police in Greece. Well,

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it was quite a transitional time.
I have to say. I know

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that I have long flowing hairlic cures, but Greece, well all that I

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mean that that that's a lot of
give back. Tell me more about what

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was growing up, Like, where
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I was born in Alleghany County.
I often joke I was born in Cuba,

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Cuba, New York. Yeah,
okay, but my parents moved up

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here when I was one. So
I grew up in the city of Rochester.

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So you did, yeah, thirty
school and Jefferson High School. And

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what did your parents do? My
father was working for railroads down in Allegheny

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County. They got a nice job
at General Motors. He worked die cast

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for thirty two years at Rochester Products
and okay, Walton Metal and making our

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carburetors for a car was there always
a sentiment to give back or to be

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of service? You know? That
certainly seems to be in your DNA.

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But I don't know if that was
something that you just have intuitively inside yourself,

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or was taught to you or both. I think I seen it with

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my mother and my mother sided a
family. When I said my dad,

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my stepfather raised me. But he
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heavy drinker and worked worked hard.
I mean thirty two years in die Cast.

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But my mother and her side of
a family from down you know,

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the southern tier, and they're always
doing something for someone else. That's what

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they do, right. They're always
helping out the neighbor farm, or they're

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going to you know, help someone
that's sick, or they're taking care of

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the elderly people. And good to
Christian values if you will. Yeah,

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and grew up with that and just
you know, give back. Yeah,

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we often call them Christian values.
They just seem to be almost human golden

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rule, you know what I mean. There's always like the Ten Commandments,

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like if you actually followed those,
ye're a pretty good person. Yeah.

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For all City Rocket, it's not
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uh, I don't understand that.
How about you don't steal? Well,

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well let's argue about that. I
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thing I would think for sure,
when when you look back, what who

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taught you the most in your life? Do you think? Would you say?

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Your mom? Yeah? I think
just watching her example, like,

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yeah, you know I was.
I was. I don't want to give

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a whoe story, but I grew
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was a hard worker, drinker,
but you know, he's my stepfather,

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but he raised us. So I'm
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my mother tolerated a lot with the
drinking and a divorce and all this sud

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coming up the Rochester at Alleghany County, and I watched her go to work.

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She drove the school bus in the
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Wow. She went to the hospital
twice on her job drive. She's been

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in the hospital as many times as
I've been as a cop. I think

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just driving school bus in the city, I from student had assaulted, you

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know, really being assaulted in the
bus. So but she was always doing

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something else too. She was always
involved in little parties or getting helping people

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out. Yeah, and just watch
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was gonna do out of high school. Bill, I'm not exaggerated when you

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look at like letters I used to
write home when I was in the army.

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Yeah, I was illiterate. People
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my spelling still to this day.
But I was literally I didn't have a

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lot of schooling and a lot of
education, a lot of directions. But

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I looked at my stepfather, he
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I said, you know, maybe
I'll go in the army. That's what

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transformed my whole life. That's really
interesting. So it kind of gave you

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that that inner. Yeah, you
learn direction, maybe, yeah, you

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learn values, you know, yeah
we're joking about Christian values a second goal.

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But you learn teamwork, you learn
a spree of corps, you learn

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you know, you can't do anything
by yourself. I mean, these are

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not cliche things. This is what
makes people successful in life. Diversity,

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you know, the Army is diversity. So those things, you know,

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A drill starting taught me a lot
in thirty you know, twenty two years

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in the United States Army taught me
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sacrifice and things like that, and
then you went into the reserves for nineteen

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years. Right, yeah, so
three years active duty an MP military police

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officer right on high school. And
there's a luck of the draw. I

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didn't even know I wanted to be
a cop. I didn't grow up I

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want to be a cop, and
never clarssed my mind. Actually used to

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throw snowballs at police cars. I
noticed street Rochester and run. But you

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know, I took the recruiter test, the ASDAB is called, and right

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before I right after my senior year
in high school, I said I'll go

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in the army. I took the
test and the score gives you an option

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of what you could do, and
one of the options was you scored height

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enough to be a military police officer. I just seen a cool picture of

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an MP with a canine, said
can I do that? And of course

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the recruiter so, sure you can
do that. I haven't had a dog

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yet. But that led me to
MP work, which was a bunch of

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young people that want to be cops. So I said, you know,

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I think I want to be a
police officer. It's interesting. I love

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your I love what you said earlier. I can't spell. When you look

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at the letters, they were illiterate, and I think a lot of times

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that become something that is seeing.
You can see it right, educate.

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Education in my family was a big
deal. My dad has a doctor in

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philosophy, my sister is a doctor
in linguistics. My mom's got a master's

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in speech pathology. I went to
Fisher, that's it. I did the

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radio and then this. But uh, you know, education was always a

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big deal. However, I think
what I've seen with my guys and what

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I kind of get with you is
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as you have a motor to do
something. One guy was going to do

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well in school, really well.
One guy I could see wasn't. But

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he's working in a factory and uh, waiting tables. But the things now

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to sound literate. We have all
these great tools that if you use them

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properly, AI to help you write
something, spell Check, all this you

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can get, you can come by
because the ideas are what we're looking for,

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you know, and getting the idea
out and having that motor to do

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something, yes, yeah, but
being illiterate, yes, and not being

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that I mean that that hurts,
right, Yeah, so I'm get away

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with high school. I went to
Jeffers High School. I you can get

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away with a lot and just keep
on moving forward. Just be a halfway

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decent kid. You move forward and
you can graduate. But you know,

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going in the army and realizing that
this is a lot of this is embarrassing,

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right, this is you know,
so the self driving not to make

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yourself better. You know it spell
checks a beautiful thing, but still you

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got to be able to talk the
language. You gotta be able articulate.

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You're and now you know, my
letters aren't perfect anymore, but I can

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write a good essay. I mean, during that time, did you go

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and try to then improve yourself in
those areas for the master's degree? And

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you know from literally Bill, I
from this is amazing. Yeah, I

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ended up with the master's degree,
but that took years and years, a

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year of self education and self you
know, in learning from people. Yeah,

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I got family and friends and don't
mind telling me I screwed up.

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So you know when you spell the
word wrong, and I you know,

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people let you know, and you
just learn each time. You just make

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yourself a little better every day.
Right, That's what I did after high

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school. Well, I always think
like it's you know, it's an old

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cliche thing that you would always hear
they say to movies and they say that

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in boxing gyms. Is you know
it's one step, one punch, one

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round, right, and a lot
of times, well we'll hear these what

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what I believe are cliche terms of
it's the journey. Well, yeah,

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it kind of is, because if
you got everything that was coming to you

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all want, you couldn't handle it
right, So you kind of go along

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and you incrementally get better. And
I'll always say to like my guys,

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you're like, I'm getting frustrated.
I go, yeah, you can't get

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there from here, but you know
what, you can't get here, so

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you can't get there half step forward. It's like a diet, you know.

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Yeah, I'll wait one time.
You can gain it back in a

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week. It takes a couple of
months to lose. St Patrick's that we'll

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do that to you. What is
a day in a life for you,

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like now as as the sheriff of
Monroe County Because it seems like it,

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I don't know, do that Do
you have days or they just hours upon

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hours that they're literally hours, hours
there's no weekends. No, that's part

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of the job. You don't you
don't go and say I'm going to punch

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a clock in nine to five,
or I'm gonna have this weekend off.

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A weekend off for Mary and I
is a very chureish thing, right,

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we got to put that on the
calendar, make it happen. But you

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know, wake up in the morning
and you're checking emails right off the bat,

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and usually one of them is pissing
you off, and you don't get

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your blood pressure going. And uh, but I lead an organization of twelve

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hundred people. I have eight hundred
people that are incarcerated underneath my responsibility.

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So I got two thousand people every
day that that need something right or need

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me to do something for them to
make them successful. And so it's a

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it's a full time job. It'll
never end. And that's the nature of

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the beast right as it rolls through. So when we say what do you

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do to unwind that? And I
do know one of the things that I

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know you've done, No, no
to go down to uh do the baja

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ro. Yeah, that to me
sounds the coolest. And there's document there's

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a documentary online you could actually go
watch. Yeah, check it out sixty

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three hours. It's called Ryan Green, a local kid here went and went

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to the last Baja we did.
We've done through them and he went down

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there to document it. But he
actually became one of the team members.

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Yeah, but yeah, that's that's
I do the adventure things for outlets,

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you know. And I have a
wonderful wife and she lets me go on

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a Last year, I did eleven
eleven day bike trip, bicycle trip up

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the Main I left my house and
spend sport and rode my bike to main

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Ball but myself, all by yourself. Myself. Yeah, saddle bags and

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really eleven days. Yeah, there's
only one other person I know who's done

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something like that by themselves, and
that's my younger brother. Bought a bike.

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He had a job in New York
City. Was a labor negotiator for

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the city. He was part of
a team they did the contracts between the

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fire department and the city. And
he said, one day they came in

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with a guy and everybody at cubicles
they're singing happy birthday or something. This

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guy or whatever was thirty years at
this job. I really goes, I

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can't do so he bought a bicycle, flew out to Seattle. Hardly trained,

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he rode across the county, across
the country. Did it across the

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country? You know, single guy
at the time in early twenties did that

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and then went and got his masters
and uh, yeah, so my idea

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of riding the Maine actually started as
across country trip. It did. I

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was scouting three or four routes to
come across the continental United State, all

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kinds of books and things written,
and there's I have a full time job,

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and that let's go from Spongsport that
Beck, Maine, and yeah,

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turned out to be the eleven.
I don't know where the back now.

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My brother, my younger brother now
lives in Kenny Bunk. Yeah yeah,

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yeah, it is really back.
I chose that that's the most eastern part

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in the continent, not in the
United States, where the sun hits the

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first Yeah, the first glimpse of
the sun is seen in the Beck.

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And there's a lighthouse. And what
what time of year did you do this?

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End of August beginning? Okay,
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Yeah, chili nights. Yeah,
but that had to be pretty It

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was great. I met someone you
again, so many wonderful people in this

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community. And then you start branching
out and you're just stopping the restaurants and

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they're going, what are you doing? And I'm explaining to the story and

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in the conversations to get deep at
what they do and where they're from.

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And it's wonderful. Well, you
have a nice way and certainly bringing things

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out of people right when you're talking
to them. I don't know if that's

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what you ever trained to drive,
no, but it's nice. But the

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the idea of pushing yourself to do
things like that. There was some spots

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I hit the ply wall in Maine
and lucky, I had a couple of

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hours onunderneath my belt. I was
making up time. I was pating time.

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So I stopped one beautiful little town
of me and I called my friend

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Brett Shobiski and yeah, yeah,
and said Brett, I'm on the wall,

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man, I can't get off this. And he's a he's an altar

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everything ye see across like Ontario,
you know. Uh. And he gave

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me some things to do and and
you know, he said, I was

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joking like gatorading and touching them for
you, man, you go to the

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local Chinese restaurant and put salt on
everything they give you, and then put

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your legs, elevate them in the
hotel room and massage the heck got them

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and and before you know it,
you'll be letting the electic acid out a

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certain part of your body. And
yeah, work like a miracle. It's

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amazing. Yeah, it's one of
the things I think that a lot of

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times we get confused with hydration.
Yeah is you know, well, I

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drink it a lot of water.
Well, you're washing the cells away to

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permeate to get through this, you
need salt, salt, Yeah, it's

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it's in there end. It is
doing Chinese food, So don't do that

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on the ring. That's amazing.
But you've done a lot of things like

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that. Yeah. You even went
with Brett when he was running from Florida

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back up experience. Yeah, his
states from as and we did five days

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with him and he ran a marathon
a day. But just watching his routine

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and how he recovered after each marathon. You know, he did a marathon

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a day and then the next day
is warm up, his carbohydrates, his

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food, dye, and his water
plan. He was It was like watching

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a science experiment. Yeah in front
of you, like this guy's got a

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drop sooner later. But with you, why why push yourself like that?

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Why? I mean, you've got
a job, You've got two thousand people

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a day, you got a wife, family, grandkids now, but you're

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still is it the challenge? Is
it something? What is it? I

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think it's more love it because I
never got that deep into it. But

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I think, really, but what
it is is, you know I can't

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turn it off. I mean,
the job is there twenty four to seven.

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So when I'm doing these altra things, when I'm doing the things that

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are just taking into that wall,
you can only concentrate it that next as

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you said that next maybe file and
sometimes we're talking five inches. It's a

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thousand on my own race, but
sometimes we want to get five inches,

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you know. So it makes you
concentrate and you know, break the chain

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of all the other things that's going
on. That's that's interesting. It's almost

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like a very zen type thing,
which I know sounds silly because a lot

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of people say I've often talked about
I meditat every day. It's very hard

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to try to empty the thoughts and
just concentrate either on a sound in the

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room or your breath or whatever,
and how good that is for you.

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But I would always talk to like
guys who race cars, I'm going,

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there's nothing else you can think and
I love I love going as fast as

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you can. Now, I've never
really raced where I've got cars inches away

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from me. But last summer I
never really like watching drag racing. The

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cars are cool, but you know
I did drag did you really? Now?

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That is like imagine But it's one
of these things where you just you're

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adrenaline, but you can't think of
anything because there's a point where you're like,

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holy shit, I'm doing one hundred
and fifty split. It's all it

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takes, and that's all it takes, and I go that to me is

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the greatest thing, because you can't
think of anything else and nothing else matters

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that That's the only way I can
shut it off. Is Yeah, you

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know, I'm through Vermont, New
Hampshire, and I'm looking at Maine and

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I got hills again, and yeah, right to the next hill. It's

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just the next hill. Get up
the next hill so I can go down.

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So was this all off road stuff
or because I know I was trying

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to remember when my brother did it. Some of it was paths, but

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a lot of it was you're on
roads that cars ride, and maybe not

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the main highways and things more than
the side roads. There's there's a lot

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of roads. So I did from
I lived in Spence Sports, so from

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Spence Spport to Sconnected he was all
the canal trail and then I started heading

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northeast from there, so it was
all almost ninety percent I was road after

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that. Yeah, and so safety
is a big concern, Well, sure

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it is. And I got to
think, like because I know people who

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were professional cyclists that stopped because of
the things that happening, you know,

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the event of texting and driving.
So you could see him coming from out

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of way, best conventions. I'm
lit up like a Christmas tree on that

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bike. I'm out like a nerd. There's somethings flashing all so if you're

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gonna hit me, it's a murder. I mean, there's always didn't see

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me. You had to see there's
a Christmas street going, so I know

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that. You know, with the
sheriff, there's a lot of the administrative

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duties and things, so but I
think one of the biggest problems that we

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have now with driving is the distracted
driving. It's it's no longer the main

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activity. It's what you do while
you you know, text your friend or

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I like the technology and the hands
free and the voice activation text, but

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it's still How about when it doesn't
connect all of ausly it drops out,

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God damn it, and where it's
all your detention on the road not anything

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else. Yes, yes, we
are addicted to it. Yeah, there's

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the other way to put it.
No, And and I know that it

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has become a tool. It's a
computer in your pocket. Uh. I

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like to say, people walking around
with the TV station. I don't know

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how anybody gets away with anything anymore
with the number of cameras. You know,

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people disappear. I go, how
is that beloved? When criminals don't

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get away with love cameras? Well? How about when they tell themselves?

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How about the film themselves and you
look at the backdrop, I know where

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they are. Yes, what do
you believe is kind of the the biggest

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the biggest misperception of the police sometimes, you know, as we're talking about

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that is because there seems to be
uh, we're brazen in society with the

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cameras. I mean, we're telling
on ourselves a lot of times. Well,

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I truly believe, and I don't
want to get too much into what

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we kind of if you want,
but you know, we created over the

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last four or five years a culture
of lawlessness. We've we've taken the anti

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establishment culture and put that on steroids, right, And it's always been around

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for years, you know, question
authority and all that, so that's nothing

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new, but it's not steroids.
And then we did all the reforms,

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six years of reforms, just heavy
reforms and criminal justice, and a lot

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of those have terminology that creates culture. And the culture is lawlessness. When

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you say less is more and you
say least restricted means when it comes to

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criminals, and no one goes to
jail unless you you know, even on

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bail right, right, the whole
thing is don't put anybody. Can you

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explain with bail reform? Yeah,
I know, I've talked about a few

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times, but I'd love to hear
from your perspective, because I don't know

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that any of US citizens actually know
what that is. And I was told

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that it was to keep somebody for
a minor crime, not preventing them from

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going to work the next day so
they can actually pay their bills and do

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that sort of thing. I don't
know if that's it. And who doesn't

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disagree with that statement, right right? Who? If it's mind doesn't mean

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it's like, you know, stealing
a quarter of milk or a pichure.

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You're a teenage kid and you did
something stupid, right right? And yeah,

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kids, you got challenge with peer
pressure and you went out and committed

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a small crime. No one wants
those people sitting in marroal Cone Jail.

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I don't want them. Yeah,
I don't need them. I don't need

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to burden you don't need to pay
the tax dollars one hundred and twelve,

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the one hundred and fifty hundred and
seventy dollars a night. Yeah, you

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know, so no one wins when
we cursorate someone. But so what happened

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with bail reform? But I just
so many prefaces because it was discovery reform,

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bail reform, legalization of marijuana,
it was the Halt Act, it

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was Less is More, it was
raisy age. These are all significant changes

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to a law. Criminal just law
occurred in three years, right, So

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then came down the pipe for the
last six years, we're still trying to

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read the air of what's occurring around
us in the criminal justice community, whether

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it's police, judges, prosecutors.
So the one party is familiar with because

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of the terminology is bail reform.
So what happened was the overall tenant of

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bail reform was the least restrictive means. If you have a police officer arrest

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you and accuses you of crime,
brings you before a judge, you should

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be released on the least restricted means. That's the culture change that occurred and

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what we told the criminals, you
won't commit crimes, and we're going to

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release you prior to conviction in court, which could be six months from now.

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We are going to release you from
the police custody the least restricted means.

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That was the overall tenant. Some
things could get bail put on them,

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but even the judge had to give
you the least restrictive means of the

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bail right. That was the overall
tenant of bail reform, which took it

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way too far. There needed to
be adjustments there need bailary bell was broke,

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but they went way too far,
and that's all we're asking for in

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the public safety world is just bring
it back a few not just you know,

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towards the center. So when you
got someone like the Saint John Fisher

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guy, right, great example,
right, who could have been remanded by

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the way he could have been,
but it has no follow through on everyman.

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Even if we remanded him when we
arrestled the sheriff's office, there was

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still no follow to in our criminal
justice. How are we going to intervene

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that guy's life, right, because
he was on a stairway clearly towards target

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of violence towards women, right.
Yeah, And then we then we got

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wind of and understood what was occurring
in Brighton for it for years before that

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with this guy. Right, So
when you put the totality the picture together,

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we still couldn't remaind that guy to
jail, even for a couple of

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days, just to put safety plans
for the lady. So how do we

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bring that pendulum back a little bit? I think the pendulum on a lot

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of social issues has gone yeah,
way too far, and even in behavior,

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and I think sometimes you'll start to
see it readjust itself a little bit,

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but it takes a while. So
and again there's don't forget there was

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no six huge reforms and I don't
disagree with that any reforms. As a

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matter of fact, legalize marijuana.
You want to legalize marijuana, I don't

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care. Set up safety plans for
our roads, and set up the freaking

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stores. Right, we have one
good store in Montal County right now that's

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selling. So where's everybody buying in
a marijuana the same place they used to

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buy it illegally, but now you
can possess it. And the black market's

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out of control. Tony Mazukuwitz was
killed in a marijuana investigation. It was

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a legalized substance. These these these
politicians legalized as substance. But the didn't

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open up one freaking store. So
the black market went out of control.

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And that's where you've seen a lot
of violence in the city of Rochester.

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It was selling a marijuana. They
stopped selling cocaine. So marijuana, there's

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no punishment for it. No one
carricters, right, but there was no

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stores open. So where are you
getting your marriage? This is New York

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States trying to make money off of
it. Well, one tax dollar has

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been collected, you know. Now
we're finally opening up stores here kind of

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this four years ago, right,
Yeah, who's been selling to marijuana for

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the last four years? New York
State. It feels like New York State

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makes things hard. I don't want
to put a safe thing. We're creating

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laws out of emotion, ah,
not out of lodge. So who doesn't

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If you want to create legalize marijuana, go ahead, but just set up

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a business plan so people can open
up stores before you turn off the black

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market or open up the black market
totally free from make sure a couple of

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stores are viable, make sure you
open, make sure they've been licensed.

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That makes sure the regulations are working. No, they just simply we're going

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to legalize the possession of it,
but we have no business plan, open

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store, and now we're just fo
years later getting stores. That's emotional laws

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as opposed to logical law. How
do you create logical law? You talk

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to experts in the field. Right. You don't create laws around medical doctors

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and not talk to a medical doctor. You don't crobably laws around school teachers

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and not talk to a school teacher. But we can do it with criminal

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justice apparently very well, because we
got this term assemilment or Senator Yes,

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Yes, you're not smarter everybody else. I'm not. I don't know anything

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about creating law. I wouldn't try
and create law unless I talk to you.

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You're a law creator, right,
So, But that that's this long

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answer your question. They made a
lot of laws out of emotions, and

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I don't disagree with most of the
laws. Discovery form. I don't disagree

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with it. You talk to Sandra
Dorley, that's her biggest pan. It's

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not batterary firms discovery yeah right,
but people don't even know what talking about.

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Yeah, right. So discovery would
be where you're trying to prove this

408
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,839
something or something it could be disclosed. Are they able to hide things?

409
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,920
Discovery law? So we've always had
discovery laws. Discovery means I'm a police

410
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,400
officer, arrest you, I accuse
you of crime. Right, I have

411
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,880
to present the disc attorney has to
present all the evidence that we've gathered against

412
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,720
you. Yes to your defender,
Yes, your public defender. You're a

413
00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:29,039
lawyer, you personally, so you
can prepare defense. Right because you're innocent

414
00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:30,599
to prove Who doesn't agree with that? Right? Right? But so,

415
00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:33,720
because there were some loopholes, if
you will, it could have been fixed

416
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,480
and moderated. They would like.
The argument was, we'll hold all that

417
00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:41,240
evidence we have to the last minute
while you're sitting in the hoops call we're

418
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,880
sitting in jail, Yes, which
is forcuingate a lot of defense to plee

419
00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:48,759
right a crime they might not be
convicted of, but because of the everything

420
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:52,039
was stacked against them in the criminal
justicism, so they may discovery reform,

421
00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:55,359
which means within thirty days, we
had to turn over all our evidence.

422
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,880
I arrest you and accuse you of
a crime. Within thirty days, I

423
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,240
had to turnover all the evidence.
Okay, you may not have all these

424
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,960
we got tons of work to do. We might have even made the arrest,

425
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,160
but we still got video evidence we
got to collect, we still got

426
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,480
DNA tests to come for. There's
no way you can turn it all over.

427
00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:12,240
And if it's not turned over ins
a reason amount of time, you

428
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,200
could lose that whole case. Right
and when when we're saying when you're saying

429
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:21,599
discovery and evidence, it could be
somebody's doorbell cam, right for something that

430
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,359
happens if we're looking for an angle, yeah, yeah, and we've seen

431
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,680
you go down, or we're accusing
a crime of a crime of going down

432
00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:30,920
on Main Street in fair Park,
and we know occurred within an eight hour

433
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,839
period, but we ain't got enough
evidence to arrest you. Yes, right,

434
00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:37,240
but we got to go back and
get how many cameras up and down

435
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,200
this street? Yeah, we got
to go find them out. Then we

436
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,680
got to review eight hours of video
from each one of those cameras, just

437
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,759
through the math. Yeaht that just
the man, more crime coming in every

438
00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:48,599
day, right, So it's so
even with that, you know, we

439
00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:49,839
we're able to go back and say, just give us forty five days,

440
00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:53,000
We'll take fifteen more days, and
we're able to you know, leverage the

441
00:25:53,079 --> 00:25:56,720
legislators to at least add a little
common sense to that, right, Yeah,

442
00:25:56,759 --> 00:26:02,759
because who disagrees with discovery knowing you're
accused of crime. No, I

443
00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:07,039
don't blame you a bit, absolutely
absolute. Yes. So how has so

444
00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:10,240
when you're when you're looking at this
and we see things like the reform,

445
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:15,160
which are more laws which were to
try to I think I think the original

446
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,039
idea was to make things better,
better for society, better for the person,

447
00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:22,640
better for everything. It just I
don't again, I'm not maybe not

448
00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:29,160
well thought out, but how has
society changed since you started. You go

449
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,920
back even to the beginning and when
you were at the RPD, But what

450
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:36,599
has changed? Have you seen a
change? We hear this a lot and

451
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,359
a lot of times my I don't
want to. I don't usually argue,

452
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,920
but I'll hear people go, well, you know they're not teaching. Curse

453
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,640
if anyone, and I'll go,
hold on a second. I know that

454
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:51,119
maybe that is true in certain pockets, but we go to an extreme and

455
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:56,079
I said, I've had three guys
who went through school and it isn't that

456
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,039
bad. I know that sometimes the
loudest gets the most attention, but I

457
00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:03,440
don't know that they're always the largest
group. But yet at the same time,

458
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,039
you know, I was reading something
today about things that gen xers and

459
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,480
boomers are sick of looking at,
and it's people wearing pajamas here and doing

460
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,240
this, and I go, there
is a more casual, right, And

461
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:21,880
I often think that that stuff affects
behavior. When you dressed in your Sunday

462
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,559
best, you behaved, you just
did you know? I don't know.

463
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:32,079
I don't disagree with that. I
think what is really deteriorated is the and

464
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:34,319
we always want to talk about building
up communities, and building schools. What

465
00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:37,319
it all comes back to a central
place, one little house, right,

466
00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:41,599
whatever the house looks like, and
we've failed to support the house structure,

467
00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:45,960
of family structure, right, And
it could be a broken family, it

468
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,920
could be a grandma raising, but
we don't champion, cherish, worship that

469
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,319
family unit and build from there.
What we want to do is show millions

470
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,279
of dollars at criminal justice reform or
even in policing, right, give me

471
00:27:56,319 --> 00:27:59,640
a million dollars or schools, well, we just to give the schools money.

472
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,559
And I go to these anti poverty
initiatives and I agree there's there's extreme

473
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:07,680
poverty in segments of our community that
needs to be worked on, my heart

474
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,559
bleeds. But if we're gonna throw
money at all these nonprofits, which may

475
00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:14,759
be okay to do, but why
aren't we going to the local houses saying

476
00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:17,400
what do you need in this house
to stabilize your house and build your house

477
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,599
out? And that's how you build
the street, and that's how you build

478
00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:22,519
a community. That's how you build
a school district right from the Well,

479
00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:25,319
we don't do that, and that's
what I've seen. We don't even champion

480
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,680
or cherish, or worship or praise. And you know, I think Aristotle

481
00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:30,480
and some Greek philosopher I will get
it wrong, but you know what we

482
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:33,680
honor is what's creating in your country, right, well, got to honor

483
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,799
that family structure, right or again, it could be a divorced family,

484
00:28:37,839 --> 00:28:41,559
could be two male Yes, yes, I don't care, I really don't.

485
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:44,680
But let's champion folks. Let's you
know, and then bring it down

486
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,279
to the smallest unit, because that's
where it's all built. It's funny,

487
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,759
uh. I don't know if you
know this young man named Jeffrey Rogers.

488
00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:59,680
So Jeffrey has reached out come on
here a few times, and he brought

489
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,400
in the young lady last time.
And this young woman, I believe her

490
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,559
name was Naya, really impressed me. And I said to her, what

491
00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:15,680
do you think the solution is for, in particular the sinning? And I

492
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,079
thought, holy shit, this kid
may have just hit it on the head.

493
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:23,079
What she said was, we have
what you've got, poverty, but

494
00:29:23,119 --> 00:29:29,720
you've got people who are growing up
in an emotionally unstable right. So now

495
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:33,599
you've got people who can't control their
emotions, no one showing you how,

496
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:37,640
no one teaching you another way.
So now you get angry, and she

497
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,559
goes. And then you get you
get a little older, you get on

498
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:42,720
the street, and you fear,
so you get a gun to protect yourself.

499
00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:45,359
And she goes, and nothing good
comes from that, And she said,

500
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,359
and it just becomes this cycle of
people. But a lot of it

501
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,319
was she goes, and too many
people too proud to go get counseling.

502
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,279
She said, but you need to
have a way to deal with this.

503
00:29:56,319 --> 00:30:00,559
We don't know how to deal with
our emotions. And I would say poverty

504
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,440
is tough. Oh, it drains
you right, feeling like you're always put

505
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,680
down having that mindset. I mean, I feel like you're always getting kicked

506
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,599
in the teeth. Nobody likes that. Nobody wants to feel it. You

507
00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:14,880
can say, which I believe in
the philosophy because I you know, pull

508
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,240
up your bootstraps. That's true.
That's true. But I also believe in

509
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,480
the science that if you grow up
in a poverty stricken world with a lot

510
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,400
of chaots and negativity around it,
Yes, it affects your neurons as you're

511
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,160
maturing through life, right, so
you don't ignore that. But where I

512
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,000
go is that, you know,
I can have police departments better community relations,

513
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:34,839
I get better school districts. I
can pay teachers more, whatever that.

514
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:41,200
But if we don't go home and
champion that household exactly, study skills

515
00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:42,920
or to help them with their anger
management so they can teach the kids anger

516
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,759
management. Right. But we at
the sheriff's office, they said, how

517
00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:51,480
about the city police part and grabbed
eight hundred people last year with guns in

518
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:56,160
a world that's stricting my violence?
How many households of those people arrested were

519
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,319
visited, you know, the next
day by social service, by past by

520
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:03,279
police officers say, you must be
scared to death. Your son is just

521
00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:04,480
arrested with the gun. You know, he's as good as dead or going

522
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:07,480
to kill someone and go to prison
for life, right, right, how

523
00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:10,240
can we help you? Right?
I mean, that's that's we don't We

524
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:14,680
don't waste any time or energy on
that that household. So I I'll keep

525
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,640
on champion and let's bring it back
to that that door. Knock on the

526
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,759
door and see what's going on in
that house. Right. You know,

527
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:22,319
if there's young siblings there in there
and watching, you know, their neighbor

528
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,200
gets shot, I can't imagine what
they're seeing right now. Trauma and you're

529
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:29,440
right, and that and that is
there's there is a great trauma to that

530
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,079
stuff that is is not we don't
really address, don't. It's interesting though

531
00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:37,160
that you see it like that.
Do people listen when you say these things?

532
00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:40,240
Yeah? I think they do.
And I mean, yeah, I

533
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,519
don't want to get into the you
know, the conservative No, I understand,

534
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:45,920
but you could do both. That's
what I'm saying. Yes, I

535
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,559
mean, carrying a gun in Rochester
right now, you should probably be detained.

536
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,960
Right, Yeah, You're as good
as dead or going to kill someone,

537
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:52,480
right. I mean, it's just
that's the violence is going. But

538
00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:57,000
with that, there's a holistic approach
to solving that long term problem. Jail

539
00:31:57,079 --> 00:32:00,680
is not the solution to that problem. You might have to go to jail,

540
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:01,680
yeah, time. I got absolutely
no problem with that. But even

541
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,680
when you leave jail, you're gonna
come back to our community. We're coming

542
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,440
back. We made you any better, right, and we made have We

543
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,119
made that household any better, and
we made this street any better. Right.

544
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,440
So there's a But that's where I
keep on going with this. It's

545
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,799
bigger than just as it is.
And there is something about I always think

546
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:21,960
like I was always a big champion
of Habitat for humanity, and the reason

547
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:28,279
I liked it so much was but
it's that, and it's the satisfaction you

548
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:30,240
get. And when you got this
satisfaction, you want to push yourself more.

549
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:32,799
And if you look at the stats
on this stuff, and I don't

550
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:37,240
believe the stats lie, the kids
from those homes graduate and many of them

551
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:43,039
go on to secondary education or higher
education, I'm going, what are we

552
00:32:43,079 --> 00:32:46,000
doing? Why aren't we pushing for
more of that? Because I also believe

553
00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:51,119
as much as you know pull yourself
up by your bootstraps, I also believe

554
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,519
that when you do, there's somebody
somewhere who's going to meet you halfway and

555
00:32:55,839 --> 00:32:58,839
help pull you through and go,
hey, I see it in you.

556
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,559
I've been there, I know this, or I see it in you.

557
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:06,519
You got this, And I feel
like they'll step out a hundred times to

558
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:07,599
help you out, Yeah, because
they want to be part of that.

559
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:13,279
And sometimes I feel like there's a
lot of big language, big words,

560
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,599
and you know what I mean,
not not necessarily backed by action and or

561
00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:22,119
or even inspired action. There's words. There's things to look good and we

562
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,519
will throw money and we'll do this, but that hasn't worked, and what's

563
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:30,279
the unresult? Well, the end
result, who's getting the money? And

564
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:32,720
how do how do we you know, you make things better with that stuff.

565
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:36,880
It's it's a hard I mean,
there's no easy solution. But boy,

566
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,359
I love the idea of going right
to ground zero. Let's find out

567
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,400
we arrest a kid with a gun. That's that's there's there's not money,

568
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,200
more clues. We got to look
for something inspiring on out of controlling that

569
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,359
kid's life. Yes, right,
right, and again, detaining might be

570
00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:52,480
the proper thing. That's it.
Go back to ballery form. You're carrying

571
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,200
a gun, right, you're probably
sitting in a hust call for a couple

572
00:33:53,319 --> 00:33:57,839
days. But what are we doing
with you? Right? And what are

573
00:33:57,839 --> 00:33:59,960
we doing your family? And what
are we doing? And you might have

574
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:01,160
stay there a long time if you're
a gang binger just wants to shoot up

575
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,480
everybody. Yeah, maybe you stay
there a long time to use you see

576
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,000
the judge again, and someone determines
that you're safe to come back to our

577
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:09,320
community. And that's the opposite of
someone that can stole the candy bar.

578
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,679
Right. We're talking about each one's
individualistic right, and we got systems that

579
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,599
don't look at the individual or the
individual house. No, what I was

580
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:21,960
putting you into containers? Yeah?
Fit here the city school district is doing

581
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,760
that. Yes, yes, that's
kind of a big broad statement, right,

582
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,440
yeah it is. You know,
how's that one teacher? What's she

583
00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:30,079
doing and what does she need up
with? Right? Right? And what

584
00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:32,719
are they what what makes up the
school district? Yeah? Students? Students,

585
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,320
students, and that's we spend time
energy on that household where they're going

586
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:42,920
home too. Yeah. But since
you started till now, what are we

587
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,400
seeing people more of the I don't
want to say disrespect, but disrespect absolutely

588
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,559
disrespect, absolutely disrespect for our laws. Just look at our driving. Number

589
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:54,599
one complain I get as a sheriff
of a seven hundred and fifty thousand person

590
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:59,360
community is driving right, I mean, no one gives a crapit ball vacant

591
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:01,599
laws, traffic laws, right,
you know when it's texting the driver or

592
00:35:01,639 --> 00:35:04,920
just speeding and weaving and out of
traffic, or blowing the stop sign in

593
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,000
the neighborhood. Literally, probably the
biggest complaint I get because it's it's but

594
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:13,199
it's a symptom, it's an indicator
of this lawlessness, This care free attitude,

595
00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:15,599
this screw my neighbor over right now
right, yeah, and a lot

596
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:19,039
of that. And again, I
don't want to blame COVID for the spike

597
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:22,039
and crime. It's part of it. All these things are part of it.

598
00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:24,719
But you know, we we really
enclosed ourselves and shut ourself off from

599
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,239
our community and you know, survival
of the fittest. I guess I also

600
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:36,119
think that it's much easier to find
like minded people. Now, do you

601
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:38,800
know what I'm saying? I do
so this morning on Twitter. Okay,

602
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:44,719
this is what I'm talking about,
and I go, what happened to having

603
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,800
an exchange? Everybody wants to have
the conversation, but nobody wants to have

604
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,480
the conversation, right, They don't
want to do it. And the thing

605
00:35:51,559 --> 00:35:54,880
is, like, I feel like
people don't understand what an opinion is.

606
00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:59,840
An opinion, by definition, is
halfway between fact and fiction. I'm not

607
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,199
saying that you're full of shit,
just half full of shit, but it's

608
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,199
your opinion and a lot of that
may be your perspective on life, where

609
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:08,039
you've come from, what your background
is. I have no idea, but

610
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:10,960
in order to learn and grow,
you have to have the conversation, and

611
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,360
we don't anymore. And I would
say a lot of time learn none yes,

612
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:20,760
and a lot of times in social
media now it becomes or it has

613
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,239
been for a number of years.
In my mind, you're not wrong,

614
00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:28,800
You're dead fucking wrong. How dare
you think that way? And I go,

615
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,440
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. This isn't this

616
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:35,920
is not in any way, it's
not even American. You know what I'm

617
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,199
saying an exchange what we're supposed to
right, exchange of ideas. I mean,

618
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,039
part of the freedom is there's an
ugly side to it. I got

619
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:44,840
to listen to that guy say whatever
he wants standing on a street corner.

620
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,800
I may not agree with it or
not. I mean, there are horrible

621
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,199
books that have been published in things. Okay, But at the same time,

622
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,400
I get to practice my own religion
and I get to you know,

623
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,039
all these I get to say what
I want. I have freedom pressed.

624
00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:00,519
If you want to go out out
in protest, you're allowed to go out

625
00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:04,519
protest. Try that in parts of
the world. It doesn't work. It

626
00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:07,199
doesn't work, it wouldn't last a
minute. No, So you have a

627
00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:08,719
lot of wonderful things like go,
but boy, this did that to me,

628
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,960
and I don't know how you navigate
that. Well, that's the burden

629
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,760
of the job right now, because
you're you're walking through a minefield every day.

630
00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:17,400
Wrong terms. You know, I've
said some things over here in this

631
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:21,280
radio program. I'd like wonder if
that's coming back to Honty, right,

632
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:23,400
just talking to you with a friend, right. But that's why that's the

633
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,800
world we're living where Tipton is so
careful around each other. We're not being

634
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,400
honest with you. We're not being
truthful, and you never fix any problem

635
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,039
if you're not honest and right.
And so that's exactly we're going to these

636
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:38,159
meetings and we're defensive walking into them
as opposed to I'm going to try and

637
00:37:38,159 --> 00:37:39,920
build some trust with it. Yes, that's the only way I can build

638
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,480
trust with you. I'm going to
be a little bold with you and tell

639
00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:45,039
you my actual opinion and see what
your reaction is. Right, if you

640
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:46,280
tell me to go pound salt,
we'll probably never talk together. But if

641
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,039
you say I understand what you're saying, but I think about it my way

642
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:52,679
too, yes, that's that's the
only way it's ever going to get done.

643
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,920
But social media is exasperated. I
think it's made the ultra critique of

644
00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,239
everything. It's yes, I mean
there's there's great aspects of it. You've

645
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,880
you've been able to reconnect, stay
in touch with people, you can communicate

646
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,760
in more ways and a lot of
times though it's you know, it's fighting,

647
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:14,000
it's arguments, it's divided families,
one hundred and twenty divided families,

648
00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:15,800
one hundred and twenty characters. You
know, yes, your Twitter, right,

649
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,719
yes, and they'll send me a
question on Twitter, sheriff, your

650
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,639
deputies did this or you didn't do
this yesterday? What do you think?

651
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:25,280
I'm like, you really think I'm
going to engage you in a Twitter conversation

652
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,760
to pick up the phone, give
me a call. Yeah, I'll even

653
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,760
buy the coffee. I don't care, But can we at least have a

654
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,639
two week conversation? So the problem
is too because then things are taken out

655
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:37,280
of contexts writing next to you and
pissed you off, and then you call

656
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,079
them and you go, oh,
asn't fat as I thought it was?

657
00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:42,880
Yes, exactly, well that's what
you wanted, right, And but yeah,

658
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,159
we're gonna do that in social media
all day long, all day long

659
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,639
one hundred. How when you get
keyboard warriors he or a little more bolder,

660
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,679
let them say it to your face. Yeah, and some you know,

661
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,639
you're like, dude, you know
me, pick up the phone.

662
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:59,480
What what do people need to know
about interacting with police? What would be

663
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:01,639
the best way? Because I think
that that's you know, you get a

664
00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:05,920
lot of training. We don't.
And I think a lot of times,

665
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,360
you know, if you're in an
agitated state. I mean I've seen officers

666
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,760
do a great job of talking people
down or walking through situations. I mean,

667
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:21,239
probably the scariest I would think for
a police officer is a domestic situation,

668
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,320
only because you don't know, you
don't know what's gonna happen. You

669
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,000
don't know that you don't know the
traffic stop you're making, You have no

670
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:29,440
idea who going over, what they
were doing, or where they're going,

671
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:34,840
or what's in the car. And
people get really mad when you say this,

672
00:39:35,199 --> 00:39:37,719
But it's really the simple Just if
you I can guarantee if you just

673
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,119
comply with the police officer. Yeah, and he might be a freaking jerk,

674
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:44,800
he might be one hundred percent wrong. Let me take care of that

675
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,119
part, okay, Right, If
my depittys one hundred percent wrong, I

676
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:50,679
guarantee I'm gonna take care of it. Right. It might be coaching or

677
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:53,800
counseling, it might be disciplined,
but who wires bad employees. But with

678
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:59,159
that other side, if you just
comply with a law enforcement officer, it's

679
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:01,199
probably gonna be a an okay encounter, right, and if they're wrong,

680
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:04,679
we'll take care of it on the
other end. But that's not the time

681
00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:07,719
to adjudicate that. Right when a
police officer says, do this, almost

682
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,039
one hundred percent of the time,
if you do that, everything's gonna be

683
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:14,760
just fine. And if there's a
procedural problem, there's a he did something

684
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,920
in proper, let's deal with it
all the time. But the other side

685
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,800
is I hire hundreds of cops a
year. I've been hiring. I hired

686
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,639
in roches, policemen. I hearting
the Greece police, weren't. We're hiring

687
00:40:23,679 --> 00:40:28,320
good human beings, very very few
idiots, you know, And we've had

688
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,039
a few, right, we've arrested
a few police officers. But these are

689
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,679
great human beings, these are public
servants. They come on the job to

690
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,000
do the right thing. That's the
other that goes. They're good human beings,

691
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,000
they're great servants. They give up
their life, yes you yes,

692
00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:44,559
you know. So let's not you
know, whitewash or even bastardize the whole

693
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:47,320
organization. You might have a bad
apple somewhere. Okay, we'll take care

694
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,079
of that, right, But trust
me, when these guys show up to

695
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:53,559
your call, they're they're really they're
good human beings. They put on a

696
00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:57,559
uniform and we'll give it all up
in a moment's notice for you. And

697
00:40:57,639 --> 00:40:59,519
if you keep that in the back
of your mind too, you know,

698
00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:02,800
these are good human beings. And
and I've done this for thirty six years

699
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,920
in the city of Rochester, the
heart of the city. Some of theific

700
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:08,280
I did in a ton of Greece. Now I'm doing a county wide with

701
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:14,320
the Sheriff's office. These are great
human beings. These these cops them,

702
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,880
I absolutely love them, like I
can't believe what they're still doing today.

703
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,800
It's funny to me because you mentioned
like, oh, we've had to arrest

704
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,000
a few, yeah, a few, but those are the ones we concentrate

705
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:27,679
on. What what what's the percentage? One half a percent? Yeah,

706
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,400
exactly. Thirty six years and four
big pleas. This is what I'm saying,

707
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,519
Like I always always go, we
got to step back and look at

708
00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:37,840
the We have to go macro,
not micro, and a lot of things

709
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,960
and try to look at the big
picture of what is actually happening here.

710
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,199
With taking any take any human beings
run organization, there's gonna be a bad

711
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:49,719
apple on the organization. Of course. Now we have a lot of power

712
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,039
and authority, so ours is,
you know, amplified when we do something

713
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:54,599
bad. Right. Yes, okay, I don't mean I don't mind holding

714
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:59,199
myself did a higher standard. Right. But let's not forget that these guys

715
00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:01,079
are freaking heroes. Let's not forget
that in a public service. Let's not

716
00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:04,760
forget that they're calling your neighbor at
three o'clock in the morning. We'll get

717
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,000
out chase someone through your back hair
because there just came out of your ground.

718
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:08,920
I know I need a gun.
At the other end of it,

719
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:15,559
I would say this after having Chief
Barnes says he's copied you. I don't

720
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:17,800
know if you know this, Matt
Burns, Yeah, Chief Barnes never heard

721
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:22,599
of work around there. He uh, he's doing a cop cast now,

722
00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:24,360
okay, oh, that's right,
Yeah, yeah, he doesn't here.

723
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,800
So I had a conversation with him
once and I won't go over to the

724
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:35,199
details, but I know what most
throughout my entire career, uh, I

725
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,719
knew pretty much what every day entail, right. I knew that I was

726
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,400
going to get up and I'll probably
say some inappropriate things into a microphone and

727
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,320
we'll call the day. But this
I don't That's not the case with police

728
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:52,159
especially ever. I mean, you
don't know what's coming. And he told

729
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:57,960
a story of just I would say
something that happened probably within a half hour,

730
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,280
like a half hour, and it
went, oh my god, like

731
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,280
how you handle that from having to
take care of a deer that was dying

732
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,400
on the side of the road and
playing paper rock scissors as to who puts

733
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,679
the deer out of its misery,
and then a tragedy to have with the

734
00:43:12,679 --> 00:43:15,400
train tracks with just seconds later,
while they're designing that, the call comes

735
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,119
in and a father hands a body
part and you're going, oh my god,

736
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,360
and that's your and that's just Tuesday
and the yeah, and then tomorrow

737
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,559
you're going to go to a missing
person's kid. You know, you got

738
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:30,079
to show a lot of empathy yes, and you just got trauma written all

739
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:31,559
over you for the last eight hours. Yeah. And then the next day

740
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:35,719
you're gonna go to a domestic abuse
case and you're gonna your heart's gonna bleed

741
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,079
for the victim of that, and
you got to determine who's the primary aggressor

742
00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:40,880
and make an arrest. But at
the same time, they realize their whole

743
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,920
life's going possibly away, so they
start. Everybody's fighting. So you go

744
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:46,599
to your here's the bad. Yeah, you go to your next one.

745
00:43:46,599 --> 00:43:50,199
You like, do I want to
be part of this? Right? But

746
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,960
that's we're humans, that's your The
long answer to your question is, don't

747
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,440
forget these guys are humans. They're
great, sir. Right. I always

748
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,239
think with humans, you know,
apply just comply. The one thing that

749
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,079
we do is we always want to
blame so somebody else. It's not our

750
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:04,840
fault. We didn't know, we
didn't do. Everything is your fault.

751
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,400
If it happens to you some way, somehow, you were I don't know.

752
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,800
I don't. I'd never say things
come out of the blue. I'll

753
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,000
say they come out of the oblivion. Somewhere I was oblivious to something that

754
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:20,159
was going on. We've got to
take a little bit of self responsible.

755
00:44:20,199 --> 00:44:24,159
Yeah, a little self responsibility with
this stuff because it's not other people's fault.

756
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,039
But if I'm going away, who
am I owing at the guy that's

757
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:30,239
there to Yeah, the guy w's
putting the handcuffs. Even Koby's seven habits

758
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,920
highly effective person yep, right,
the first one have a number one,

759
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,119
be proactive. What he talks about
there is be control your own emotions.

760
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:40,360
That's yeah, right. You can't
do all the other successful habits unless you're

761
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,039
control yourself right. And there's a
lot of books written on just at one

762
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:46,599
point. Yes, but you know, if you're letting, if you're controlling

763
00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:51,440
me right now and you're you're pissing
me off, I'm You're on me.

764
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,840
I'm doing everything you want. I'm
a puppy dog to you. Right.

765
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:57,639
So that's why Stephen Covey was talking
about decades ago anywhere that is true.

766
00:44:57,679 --> 00:45:00,559
I always say that the number one
thing adult can do it has learned to

767
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:07,639
control their emotions. But it's not, it's not at all. But that

768
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:13,119
to that point, How hard is
it now with everybody having a camera,

769
00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:19,559
so either to make sure you're doing
your job right, not somebody being misbehaving

770
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:22,679
or also the other thing. You
know, years ago when my guys were

771
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:25,920
little. I think my son who's
going to graduate college in a couple of

772
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,360
weeks, was in second grade and
there was a chase. Some guys had

773
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:35,119
come up from the Brooklyn and picked
up a father and a mother, or

774
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:37,199
a father and a daughter, and
they were the wrong people. So they

775
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,360
wound up dropping them off in Greece
and high speed chase and it ended up

776
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:45,079
coming up Bushnail's basin and they abandoned
the car. And I mean it was

777
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,400
they were everywhere. And I lived
right on East Street. I could watch

778
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:52,639
this out in the sun room,
and they one of them. It was

779
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:54,719
a warm day, and the gym
teacher left the door a little bit open

780
00:45:55,519 --> 00:46:00,159
for the kids to get air because
there's no air condition. And I'm one

781
00:46:00,199 --> 00:46:02,800
of the guys who went into the
school. So now the school goes into

782
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,679
lockdown. So the swat team comes
and they're up in trees. And I

783
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,719
remember seeing my son's teacher after this. She said she had dark in the

784
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:15,719
room, got the kids down,
closed the blind so they wouldn't be scared

785
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,239
with the guns and all, and
read to them and they didn't even know

786
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:22,079
what was happening. Right Meanwhile,
in the neighborhood, Todd, you would

787
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:24,519
have thought, like all these minds, I'm going up there, I'm like,

788
00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:30,119
what are you doing? I'm like, why I refuse? It became

789
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:32,320
a huge fight, Like not fight, but it became a bit of an

790
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,199
argument because I'm like, I'm not
I go you. You know what you

791
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,559
are, You're human cholesterol. You
know what cholesterol does. It gets in

792
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:43,639
the fucking way. They're the pros. Stay out of the way. What

793
00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:45,960
are you gonna do? You're like
a cheery s. I understand you're afraid

794
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,599
that it's traumatic for the kid,
but I also think when you bring your

795
00:46:50,639 --> 00:46:53,800
emotions, that's traumatic. They probably
didn't know until they see mom or dad

796
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:59,079
freaking out, and I don't.
I mean, maybe I'm insensitive. I've

797
00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:01,199
been told I have no nerve us
in certain situations and ship like that.

798
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,920
But I always figure, let the
pros do the job. I don't do

799
00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:09,480
electrical because I'm always afraid I'm gonna
screw it up and I'll fry my hair

800
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:13,360
or be dead or whatever. I'll
call it. Pro same thing here.

801
00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:15,920
Let the pros handle it. They're
trained. You bring your young son to

802
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,000
the emergency room with a compound fracture
r Yeah, you're gonna want to do

803
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:22,960
everything you can. Yes, certainly, I got to turn it over to

804
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,639
the medical process, right, you've
done all you could, Yes, and

805
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,079
let them do their job right,
and you help out any way you can.

806
00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:30,880
But sure you would. Absolutely,
if I'm on the side of the

807
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,800
road, there's an accent bullet for
your kid. Absolutely if they like,

808
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,760
if they you know, all of
a sudden they said to me, Hey,

809
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,360
I need you to can you grab
something I'm running, I'll do whatever.

810
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,719
I'd love to do that. Yeah, I'll go get water for the

811
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,480
team. Well, when it's the
swat team, I'm gonna stay back.

812
00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:47,239
They are all all of a sudden, there was like this line of parents

813
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,840
and I go, I understand cars. So we work through those things.

814
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,880
I mean, those are intentional things
that we have to work in our critical

815
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,440
end. Yes, let's deal with
the families, cause you can't leave my

816
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,400
hanging. No, it's not.
But if you don't address them and I

817
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,079
and what they really need is information. Yeah, So let's get to them

818
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:06,960
when the information as quick as possible
and let them know what we're doing and

819
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,519
let them know how we're doing it. And the fact is, I'm just

820
00:48:08,559 --> 00:48:14,039
a bad parent who doesn't care enough
caidding. I just didn't want to get

821
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:16,239
in the way. I'm like,
listen, I'm I don't know what's going

822
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,400
to happen. Let's say the guy
runs and they're all standing out here.

823
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,159
What happens? What are we doing
now? Just stay out of the way

824
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,679
and everything will work better. I
don't know. But with the cameras and

825
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,079
things, I mean, how hard
is that? I mean, you're talking

826
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:35,199
about controlling emotions, because I'd want
to turn around and go turn that off.

827
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,119
I'm trying to do my job.
Here Do I come? Do I

828
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:38,840
come stand next to your cubicle and
film you? You know what I mean?

829
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,760
No, it's it's it's it's a
lot of pressure. Yeah, and

830
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,599
that was that pressure came before the
advent of body warned cameras right right,

831
00:48:45,639 --> 00:48:50,239
and now it's you talk to almost
any deputy or a police officers. They

832
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,159
wouldn't give up their body worn't cameras. I don't think a millionaires no,

833
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:58,199
because they want to capture everything.
Sure. Here's the problem though, when

834
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,199
they're sticking a camera in your face
right there, and you've watched you watch

835
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,239
the depundits on sporting events right the
next day, Monday morning, and we

836
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,119
talked about the Buffalo Bills and they
could have ran that play and they should

837
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:10,039
have passed here. And you know, we argue forty minutes, was he

838
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:13,079
out of bounds and not out of
bounds? They crossed the plane on the

839
00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:15,119
on the goal line. And we
got seven cameras from seven to and we

840
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:19,960
got professionals that used to do the
sport, we're taking it in law enforce.

841
00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:22,760
It was just the opposite. We
got one little pin camera, maybe

842
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,719
a different angle from someone's cell phone
or grammar that's been waiting for us to

843
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,719
make a mistake. Right, do
everything perfect, cop, We're going to

844
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,679
hold you accountable. That's a lot
of pressure. But don't forget. You're

845
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,800
only looking at small snippets, right. And if you if you're going to

846
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,960
critique law enforcement or a medical doctor
or anything, think about a Monday night

847
00:49:38,039 --> 00:49:40,960
football game and so many different ways. Look at it the next day and

848
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,320
still argue when we had professionals look
at it, and we had and no

849
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,920
one was gonna diet. If the
football player makes a mistake, right,

850
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,519
no one's losing anything. You might
lose a game. But you know,

851
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:53,599
there's so much pressure on these guys
and they're ultruly critiqued. And you look

852
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:57,239
at the roch To Police Department and
talk about micro management, you know,

853
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,960
talking about and they're all my friends, and then the chiefs my friend.

854
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:02,760
But when you have an Attorney General
that will critique you, you have a

855
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:07,679
police accountability at will critique you.
You have an internal affairs unit that will

856
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,639
critique, you have a police department, you know, command staff the critique.

857
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:12,840
You know, they might all be
appropate. I'm not in the argument

858
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,199
no, no, might will.
But but the point I'm making is when

859
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,280
can you imagine your job? You
have no different I used to did that

860
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,239
job well. I used to hate
when I had to sit for air checks.

861
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,360
So it's just you and the air
the progress. But that's the thing

862
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,119
in opposite, These cops are working
in a pressure all the time. What

863
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:34,880
always changed my perspective a little bit
on this was back in I'm going to

864
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,320
say maybe around twenty ten, I
don't I don't remember, but there was

865
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:43,119
a case in the city of Rochester
where a mother and daughter got in a

866
00:50:43,159 --> 00:50:46,159
fight and the police were called.
They were out in the street. I

867
00:50:46,159 --> 00:50:51,440
think it got physical, and so
one of the officers was going to arrest

868
00:50:51,519 --> 00:50:57,880
to the daughter, and the video
from somebody's cam was a white officer,

869
00:50:58,199 --> 00:51:02,639
black citizen battered her like the back
of her head, like kind of swattered

870
00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:06,519
her. And so it came out
like there was all this prob look at

871
00:51:06,519 --> 00:51:09,920
this that could happen. And it
was Adam McFadden at the time that called

872
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:14,400
me and said, I'm sending you
another video. I want you to see

873
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:20,760
this. He said she reached either
for his private parts or his gun,

874
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,320
and to prevent her, he just
and he goes he was fully in his

875
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,960
right. But it became a huge, huge deal, and it became a

876
00:51:29,039 --> 00:51:32,440
huge deal with the person who then
became the mayor of the city, Lovely

877
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,239
Warren, And she came on a
radio show and she was telling me,

878
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:42,559
like she wanted to call it cultural, I don't know, some kind of

879
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:45,400
a cultural appropriate and I don't want
to say appropriation because that's not the right

880
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:50,440
word, but basically like there was
a cultural divide and the officers didn't know

881
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,559
how to talk to citizens. And
she said it took a black officer to

882
00:51:54,599 --> 00:51:57,400
call it. And I said to
her, how many years is that guy

883
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,239
on the job, and she I
said, I think what you have as

884
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,559
a veteran officer problem and you also
have a problem of overreaction because we're not

885
00:52:02,599 --> 00:52:07,320
seeing the full story. We're not
seeing the full story, and you know,

886
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,599
people misbehaving. I'd love to see
any citizen, like, you know,

887
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,960
someone tried to grab you somewhere.
What do you think you're gonna do?

888
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,719
What's your instincts, especially if they're
going and you had a gun?

889
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:22,440
Yeah, I mean fly lands on
your nose exactly. Sometimes that's the part

890
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:28,159
where you go emotions versus logic.
It drives me crazy. So the advent

891
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:30,960
of body warned cameras. I remember
I was on another radio program back then

892
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,559
and I was explaining that, you
know, when this technology comes out,

893
00:52:32,639 --> 00:52:36,920
it's never going to solve the trust
issue that people don't trust police officers.

894
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,559
Right, it's gonna help. It's
a good tool for us. It's a

895
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:43,480
good tool to show a little smaller
portion of the action. Right, you're

896
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:45,440
not telling the whole story, you're
not even seeing the whole story. But

897
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,239
it'll still never solve the trust issue. Never really, you know, it's

898
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,599
helped. I'm not saying bodywarn cameras
haven't helped in that. But trust is

899
00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:54,079
between me and you. Trust is
you know, a relationship. Trust is

900
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,159
in the build trust. We probably
had to have something difficult to happen between

901
00:52:58,199 --> 00:53:00,760
us and the build trust. It
can't be peaches cream all the time.

902
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,679
You know, build trust that way
you build trust. Me a little turmoil.

903
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,079
Speaking of trust, what do you
think people say behind your back?

904
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,960
No, and I don't mean that. Well, I'm serious with that.

905
00:53:10,039 --> 00:53:13,079
You didn't you didn't send me a
question ahead of time? No, I

906
00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:15,360
didn't. I didn't say any of
the questions ahead of time. But I

907
00:53:15,679 --> 00:53:17,480
just I often think, like,
what do you think people say behind your

908
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:22,800
back? Because I will tell you, as a citizen of Monroe County,

909
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,800
I've only heard glowing things. A
guy came in here today, just stopped

910
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,199
in. Uh, we live in
a similar area, see him around the

911
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:30,880
neighborhood. Came in and he goes
what he got going on today? I

912
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,480
said, Sheriff Todd Baxter's a great
guy, and that that's what I hear,

913
00:53:35,639 --> 00:53:37,880
and that that's a nice thing.
But I don't know. I mean

914
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:43,360
well literally, I mean today,
maybe I'm a servant. I want I

915
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,079
want to My goal is to be
perfect every day. That's just in my

916
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:49,239
DNA. You'll never reach it.
So it drives me absolutely nuts when people

917
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,159
critique me, right, that's that's
part of the job. So I got

918
00:53:52,199 --> 00:53:55,119
to internalize that. But there's not
It's not that he loves Todd Baxter.

919
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,639
You know, I've had a fire
employees and I love cops. Last thing

920
00:53:59,639 --> 00:54:02,239
everyone was fire cop. They were
they were They're good human beings. You

921
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,280
know. I've I've arrested some people
that don't like me. I've had political

922
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,119
adversaries that don't like me. So
it's not all. But my goal is

923
00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:13,719
you know, I've always had the
goal of of who dies with the most

924
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,880
friends want yeah, not the best
money, or he dies with the most

925
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,719
friends. So if I can repair
a relationship with someone that it drives me

926
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,960
absolutely not to keep me awake at
night. If I pissed someone off,

927
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:24,320
really it does. That's interesting and
I don't mind doing it if I have

928
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,559
to. I don't mind tenting to
take a walk. I don't mind arresting

929
00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:31,840
you. But you know, it's
just not in my DNA to tweak people

930
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,639
and haven't pissed off of me.
What's the best part of the job for

931
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,840
you? The cops, man,
it is. I love the cops.

932
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,239
Yeah, I love what I love
what they do. I love reading the

933
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,360
stories in the morning when they you
know, went that extra mile and you

934
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,480
know, and did the right thing
and put time and effort into serving someone

935
00:54:46,519 --> 00:54:50,800
else, whether it's you know,
arresting someone that stole something, or it's

936
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,079
finding a missing person or taking that
extra going in the cold water to get

937
00:54:54,119 --> 00:54:58,599
a guy out of the car that
went to a pond. Going into firehouses,

938
00:54:58,599 --> 00:55:00,559
We're not firemen. They go in
the houses. I'm fire all the

939
00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:01,800
time, you know, we only
see it. These are I love them,

940
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,039
I absolutely love them. So my
job is to provide everything I can

941
00:55:05,079 --> 00:55:07,239
for them, support them, you
know, and support the organization leave a

942
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,719
little better. But that's what tries
me. Do you see yourself sort of

943
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,639
as the CEO? And I know
that sounds funny, but I always think

944
00:55:14,679 --> 00:55:19,639
like a great boss to me knows
what makes his employees tick and not what

945
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:25,039
makes his employees as a plural but
individual what makes Joe and Martha or whatever

946
00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:29,239
you can choose, but what makes
them tick, What are they going through,

947
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:30,800
what are they bringing into their job, and especially in a job that

948
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,519
boy a lot of trauma. You're
witnessing a lot of trauma. Yeah,

949
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,679
or going in most people don't call
nine one one. Nail it right,

950
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:45,239
You're going into people's worst situations and
they don't call us for the birthday party.

951
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,679
They call us when the birthday party
went bad. Right, So we're

952
00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:50,760
walking into fifty percent of the people
when we leave like us. The other

953
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,760
fifty percent don't like us. Most
every call you go to so over years,

954
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,519
over time, and don't forget the
environment we've been working in, the

955
00:55:55,559 --> 00:56:00,360
super hyper anti police critique right for
the last These guys are tired, they're

956
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,960
really warn out. So we spend
a lot of time trying to build them

957
00:56:04,039 --> 00:56:07,320
up, do wellness programs, make
sure they get good contracts, give them

958
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,599
and they add a boys at a
girls let me know that they're appreciated.

959
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,159
Not by me so much, but
when the community writes a note. They

960
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,320
all need to know that there's people
out there. I love what you do.

961
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:16,800
I hope you know I do.
But there's people out there that need

962
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:21,199
you and want you. You know. So I look at my job as

963
00:56:22,639 --> 00:56:24,679
you look at an orchestra. I'm
I'm the band leader, right, I'm

964
00:56:24,679 --> 00:56:27,719
the guy op at the top.
Don't. I don't play the symbols,

965
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,639
right, I don't. I don't
do the drum, right, I don't

966
00:56:29,679 --> 00:56:30,920
do the snare drum. My job
is to make sure that we have a

967
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,199
good snare drum, to make sure
that they have the you know, the

968
00:56:34,199 --> 00:56:36,880
symbols that and I core got to
play. And I'm trying to make some

969
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,320
harmony out of it because we've got
different needs, different wants, community cops,

970
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:44,760
right, and trying and synergize those
efforts. It's really set vision and

971
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,679
synergize the efforts and support these guys
and gals to get it done. That's

972
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:52,159
that's my goal. And then I
pay other people train them and pay other

973
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:53,880
people to do all those other things. Right. I can't possibly deal with

974
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,360
morale an a zone on the midnight
shift. I could do things that you

975
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,199
might want, like get a good
patrol car, or get you new rifles

976
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,840
or you know, give you an
uniform, peace of equipment you want,

977
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,119
But they ain't gonna fix your morale. There's no way. I mean,

978
00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:08,079
that's sergeant's business, lieutenants business.
So I try and encourage those guys.

979
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,480
Take care of the troops. We'll
take care of everything else. Yeah,

980
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:15,960
Easier said than done again, like
we do. It sounds perfect. It

981
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,519
does deal with people, I mean
right, including myself. Yes, right

982
00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:21,480
right, I don't know what to
start perfect, No, and you always

983
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,760
know the things that are that are
going. How do you how would you

984
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:28,480
like to be remembered when you decide
that. I don't know if you'll ever

985
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,679
hang it up at some point,
I mean, we all. I don't

986
00:57:30,679 --> 00:57:34,599
hope I do. I'm just saying, you know, maybe you want to

987
00:57:34,599 --> 00:57:37,920
take that bike trop across the country. All right. I like how we

988
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,400
went to the West coast and follow
the win by right, listen. I

989
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,840
wanted I entered law enforcement. I
started this conversation. I didn't know I

990
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,360
wanted to be a cop. I
entered the Military Police Court at eighteen years

991
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,800
old. I'm going to leave after
close to forty years of service sometime or

992
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,400
another. I gave it all.
That's the one. It wasn't perfect.

993
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,679
I wasn't I gave it all.
I did everything. I left Jeff,

994
00:57:59,719 --> 00:58:02,039
and I was an illiterate kid.
Yeah you know, and I'm blessed to

995
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:06,639
be in the Morrol County Sheriff today. That's that's just my family, that's

996
00:58:06,679 --> 00:58:09,119
my faith. That's all the wonderful
friends that we've had over the years that

997
00:58:09,239 --> 00:58:14,639
supported us. This is an amazing
career and so what my goal is just

998
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:16,280
give it all, right, Yeah, I want to leave warn out.

999
00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:21,880
Yeah, I hear you. You
know, we've talked a lot about you,

1000
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,760
but family is very important to you. And you have a great partner,

1001
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,320
your wife Mary, right that just
I mean, but she's right by

1002
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:34,599
you, along side you, and
it's probably somebody. It's probably you need

1003
00:58:34,639 --> 00:58:37,639
somebody like that who's kind of walking
with you on all this stuff. Because

1004
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,840
boy, I don't know what the
day is like, but it could be

1005
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,800
it could be an example of Mary. So Mary's I can give you a

1006
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,559
thousand examples. But if it wasn't
for God, it wasn't for the army,

1007
00:58:46,599 --> 00:58:50,400
and it wasn't for Mary. Yeah, none of this I wouldn't be

1008
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,440
on your podcast. But just Christmas
Day, we're home, we're having sauce

1009
00:58:53,559 --> 00:58:57,840
or she's making dinner and she I
didn't want to do it because I don't

1010
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,039
want to have these poor cops feel
obligated. But she made me call the

1011
00:59:01,079 --> 00:59:05,480
serge and make the serge and two
of the deputies working just get them over

1012
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,480
our house. I wanted because she
wanted to appreciate these guys. They were

1013
00:59:07,559 --> 00:59:09,679
uncomfortable. They showed up for a
little dinner, right, they got to

1014
00:59:09,679 --> 00:59:14,840
get their balls busted by their friends. Now, But that was all Mary's.

1015
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,639
She knows what's really really important.
That these guys need to not hear

1016
00:59:17,639 --> 00:59:22,440
from the sheriff here from Mary that
we love you guys. Man, right,

1017
00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:23,960
you're out there, you're not well. That that's that's what she brings

1018
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,920
to the table. And I think
that that probably goes a lot further than

1019
00:59:28,199 --> 00:59:30,519
anyone with or I can write letters
of support, sure and get metals out.

1020
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:34,159
But yes, you know, and
all that means a lot, it

1021
00:59:34,199 --> 00:59:37,760
does. But I think it's that
it's amazing. She's literally almost beat me

1022
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:38,440
over the head. You make the
call, make the call. Maybe I

1023
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,679
don't want to bother these guys,
but they we had such great camaraderie just

1024
00:59:42,679 --> 00:59:45,719
sitting around our table and they all
loosened up and we have to have a

1025
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,199
little chow. You know that Mary
makes those things happen. That that's awesome.

1026
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,320
Well, thank you for for coming
in. What what's next with what

1027
00:59:55,039 --> 01:00:01,039
I know your day? Or I
mean I know that there you've got to

1028
01:00:01,239 --> 01:00:05,719
run again, right, Yeah,
Yeah, so we're we're interested in running

1029
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,920
again. You know, we got
to do a couple of Politically, it

1030
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,880
feels like you have great momentum,
good things are happening, You're doing good

1031
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,920
work. Let's stay in the past. Yeah, So all my plans right

1032
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:15,880
now is I'm going to run again
in two years. We haven't made that

1033
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:20,800
official announcement yet, we'll make that
soon. But the idea is, I

1034
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,039
have some huge projects going on right
now. We're a new regional investigation operations

1035
01:00:24,039 --> 01:00:27,639
center. This is game changing in
the world of law enforcement locally. This

1036
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,480
is cutting edge evolution right in front
of you of real time technology, real

1037
01:00:30,519 --> 01:00:36,760
time information to cops on scene of
crimes. It's incredible. We're building it

1038
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,679
out, we're funding it as we
speak. I just got fitty new deputies.

1039
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,159
Yeah. Over the last three years
we added to it so the you

1040
01:00:43,199 --> 01:00:45,199
know, the manage that growth of
an organization and put those guys and gals

1041
01:00:45,199 --> 01:00:50,039
where they need to be in the
right place for you community, from themselves,

1042
01:00:50,039 --> 01:00:52,880
for safety. This it's so it's
a lot more than two more years

1043
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,800
are worth to work. So,
you know, so we're going to stick

1044
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,440
it out for the long haul.
But on the other end, I also

1045
01:00:58,519 --> 01:01:04,039
watched the average death of a police
officer fifty seven years old. I average

1046
01:01:04,039 --> 01:01:07,440
police officer dies a fifties and I'm
fifty this year. So that's in the

1047
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,159
back of my head. Well you
beat it, right, yeahorrah? This

1048
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,679
job people up. Yes, and
I want to be able to enjoy my

1049
01:01:13,679 --> 01:01:15,320
grandkids. I want to enjoy my
wife. And so why I keep riding

1050
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:20,199
those eleven mile or eleven day trips
or whatever. Yeah, well, I

1051
01:01:20,239 --> 01:01:24,320
mean I can understand that. Yeah
that I did not know that that was

1052
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,800
the seven This job each cops up, and it's it's the bad guys get

1053
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,400
us sometimes with Corny, your heart
disease gets almost every time. Really,

1054
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:37,159
just the stress, repetitive stress shift
work right, it'll eat the human body

1055
01:01:37,239 --> 01:01:42,480
up. It's amazing. Did not
know. Well, this has been a

1056
01:01:42,519 --> 01:01:46,679
great conversation. I thank you,
Thank you sometime and I appreciate it.

1057
01:01:46,719 --> 01:01:52,280
We will wrap it up, Todd
Baxter. Make sure what's a website that

1058
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,400
people can go if they wanted to
learn a little bit more about the Monroe

1059
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,760
County Sheriffs Sheriffs dot gov. F
it's right there in the county website.

1060
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,320
We just got our own. When
you do a podcast. Yeah, we

1061
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:04,639
do a podcast Behind the Badge.
It's not as popular as yours, but

1062
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,280
it will be because I just spoke
about it. But it's behind you.

1063
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:08,840
So behind the Badge is the philosophy. Let's let's talk about the cops that

1064
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,159
are doing the job, but also
the people in the community to support us.

1065
01:02:12,519 --> 01:02:15,000
So we have local nonprofits come in, we have local you know,

1066
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,159
anybody that works around law enforcement.
You know, we had we're talking about

1067
01:02:19,159 --> 01:02:21,559
crime. We had insurance people and
the other day's just talking about how crime

1068
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:24,840
is affecting their insurance business. It's
an important thing. We don't think about

1069
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,760
it, right, I learned a
lot just doing that one. You think

1070
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,960
about it when the bill shows up? Yeah, yeah, Or you can't

1071
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,960
get a car park, or why
is my insurance so high? Because it's

1072
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,840
usually on percentages? Right, And
don't forget every time someone steals from the

1073
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,119
local box store, you and we
all pay for it. They're not eating

1074
01:02:39,159 --> 01:02:45,000
that profit. No, they can't
business. Amazing all right. Well for

1075
01:02:45,119 --> 01:03:02,719
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