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It's time for coffee and company,
fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine

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day. Now here's Nick coffee.
All right, we do have some breaking

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news here to get the four o'clock
hour started. Probably not surprising news,

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but it is official that Reach Shepherd
will in fact come back to Knumpkin.

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He's going to go pro and he's
going to forego his remaining college eligibility,

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which means this is a full go, fully jumping in here, because you

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used to be able to close the
door by essentially hiring an agent. Now

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you can actually have an agent and
go through the process. So Reach Shepherd

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moving on to the next level.
And I'm happy about that because you know,

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I don't want to play in Kentucky, but this is what he should

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do. I mean, he is
a hell of a player. He'll be

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probably a top five pick, to
be honest with you. You know things

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can change, you never know.
The draft is still months away. But

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I think he's gonna be a star
in the league. I really do.

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I remember watching him in high school
a few times, and I would be

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a fool to try to tell you
that I knew he'd be as good as

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he was at Kentucky. But I
knew he would be really good, and

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I knew that he would be not
your typical white kid from out in the

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state of Kentucky that grew up a
fan and everybody in his area and everybody

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in the state loves him. He
could play. He's a different I mean,

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he's one of the best players to
come out of the state of Kentucky

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in a long long time as far
as just his ability. And he showed

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that in one year in Lexington.
And now he's gonna go pro and who

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knows where he ends up getting drafted. At one point and this was you

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know, this was long ago,
he was viewed as a potential number one

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pick. So you think John Kella
Perry's gonna sit with him at the draft,

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you know, it wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, I mean, and

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I guess like he probably should,
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it is his player, Yeah,
I mean, it's the guy he recruited.

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Now again, I think, honestly, Mark Pope could have been there

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a year ago, and he still
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going to Kentucky because of the obvious
connection. So right now at NBA draft

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dot Net, which that has let's
see has been updated within the last week.

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They've got him going number four overall, with a foreign player I'm not

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familiar with at number one, Cody
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Dalton connect at number three from Tennessee. So good for Reed Shepherd because that

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would have made like, that would
have been the ultimate win for Mark Pope,

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right, that would have gotten the
entire fan base way more horned up

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than they needed to be about it. Yeah, and it would have been

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wild just given the fact that he'd
be coming back to play for a guy

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that he's known for a long time
because his dad played with Mark Pope at

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Kentucky. They won a championship together. So and here's here's what I would

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imagine that Reed Shepherd and his dad
probably wanted to do is to go ahead

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and get that out there that way
people weren't just hanging around and want And

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you know, because if he didn't
make it public for a few weeks,

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no matter what Mark Pope is going
to be doing here as far as making

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a staff, getting players, if
he ends up getting some, which I

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assume he will, uh, the
people would still just want to know what's

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redoing. So he's gonna go pro, and I think he'll be a really

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really good pro. This is going
to sound like a crazy, crazy comparison,

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and yes, I'm going to compare
him to another white guy. But

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what can Luca do that Reed Shepherd
can't do. Now, Luca's bigger,

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there's no doubt about that. I
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Reed Shepherd's not, you know,
built like Luca, but reads a better

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athlete. I think he's a really
good passer, maybe not as good as

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Luca. Can shoot the hell out
of the ball, can play off,

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can play off ball, can run
your team. And I think he's going

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to be a really really good player
in the NBA. And I'm happy he

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only played one year at Kentucky and
it resulted and then no tournament wins for

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Kentucky. That's the way it should
be, all right. It is Coffee

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Appreciate you hanging out with us if
you are just now joining us. It

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sounds like Louisville could be getting a
commitment here soon from Ali Khalifa, the

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kid from BYU, which will get
into his background and whatnot. You know

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here shortly, we've already done it
throughout the week as we knew he was

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somebody that was going to be visiting. But I'm already seeing Louisville fans not

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melt down or anything like that.
But they at three o'clock we found out

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that Dante Maddox, who was considering
Louisville Xavier in Illinois. He visited all

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three. Louisville got the first visit
and Xavier the last visit is the one

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who ends up getting him. So
that was a really good player. That

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would have really given you a nice
boost. It would have given you,

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I think, three really highly thought
of guys in the portal in a great,

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you know, great starting spot right
there. In fact, you could

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probably I mean they wouldn't want to
do it, but if you landed Maddox,

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you could probably put a starting five
together. That is the five guys

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they have on the team. They
wouldn't be great, but like you know,

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you got rain Smith, who's your
shooter. You got your two guards

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that would have been Maddox along with
with Edwards Scott, the big guy who

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transferred from Charleston, and then I
think you could actually play Hadley at the

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at the four if you wanted to. So what I'll say about this though

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real quick, because if Khalifa's numbers
just are not are not really impressive and

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not you know, I mean for
those who don't follow anything other than occasionally

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checking social media or reading one of
the websites here locally that covers it,

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and you see Louisville Lands BYU Transfer, your first reaction is going to be

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wow, they got one of Mark
Pope's guys before you could even visit Exton.

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Then you'll look at the numbers and
think, okay, like what what

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you know? What? Why did
we why did we get this guy?

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So what I will remind you of
Louisville is in a very rare spot as

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far as the portal. They don't
just need three, four or maybe five

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guys to really give him that final
punch to put them over the edge to

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where they feel like on paper they've
got a team that could really do something

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special. They need an entire team
that includes guys that are willing to come

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here and be clearly role players at
best, and Khalifa was a role player

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at BYU. So if he does
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I'm sure he thinks. I'm sure
he's gonna have a similar role.

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But I'm also not going to walk
back what I said earlier in the week,

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because again, his stat line is
just it's crazy, it really is.

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I mean, I'll read it once
more before we get to the phone

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lines here, But in nineteen minutes, he averaged four points, three rebounds,

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shot thirty eight percent from the field. Everything about that is lousy.

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But then he averaged four assists,
and that is you know, that's I'm

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sorry, he averaged five points,
not four, but he averaged four assist

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a game in nineteen minutes as a
seven foot center. So watching some highlights,

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I mean, he's just a big, big dude that roams around the

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three point line. And he didn't
shoot it at a high level as far

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as percentage, but it looks like
he is known to be a guy that

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can knock down open threes. But
he's a seven foot like positionless guy,

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and I think passing and potentially making
threes is where you're going to see him

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make an impact. Which, hey, if that's a guy that is impacting

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the game in eleven minutes per game
or you know, even less than that

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then, you know, so be
it. But I'm curious to see what

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the reaction is if, in fact, he does make the decision. All

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right, five two, five seventy
nine hundred is the number. If you

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guys want to jump in and give
us a call, Let's go back to

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the phone lines. Welcome in,
mister Lou Lou. How are you?

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What you say? Nick? How
are you doing? Brother good? I

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just wanted to correct you on the
football coaches wearing suits. Okay, well,

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the guy that basically found at our
university did that coach? Yeah,

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a lot of I mean a lot
of people did that forever. I'm just

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I just mean, like in the
modern day of college football, it's very

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rare to see a coach wearing a
suit or a tie. I mean it

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used to be. It used to
be the uniform for coaches back in the

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day. It is. And I've
seen coach snellen Burger catch Aaron passes in

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a game. Nice reach up there
with that suit on, flipping the press.

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Incredible. One other old school guy, I'll just give it a little

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political history lesson. President Reagan would
not remove his jacket in the Oval office,

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you know, for those guys of
that age. That's just the way

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they respected the office or the way
coach Snellenberger respected the game of college football,

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and interesting if we could use a
little bit more of that these days.

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I'll make a couple more comments.
Ree Shefford reminds me a lot of

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another UK player, Tyler Heat.
I think he could have a similar Yeah,

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that's not bad, I think did. I think Tyler is a little

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bit bigger, but obviously Read is
more of a guy who can kind of

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run it team, be your point
guard. One of the things Read didn't

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really get to show off this year
that I mean, he did at times,

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but he is a really really good
passer and I think that's where he'll

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stand out in the NBA. One
more point before I hang up. The

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last guy that called Jerry, Yeah, you know what a jaded view of

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life this guy must have. I
mean he's talking about everybody's cutthroat and there's

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you know, whatever business you're in, you'll do anything to get to the

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top. I mean, that's a
horrible way to look at life. While

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it is true there are a lot
of cutthrow people out there, there are

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some people of integrity that are not
going to you know, stoop down to

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cutting somebody's throat to move up themselves
in life. So, Jerry, I

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don't know who you're hanging around with, you know, find some more people

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that are positively influenced in your life, because not everybody is a snake in

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the grass. Well, said Lou. I appreciate it, man. Yeah,

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so let's back up here. And
he mentioned the suits is because John

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made a good observation that Pat Kelsey
reminds him of PJ. Fleck, the

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head coach at Minnesota, and I
kind of laughed it off, like what

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are you talking about? And you
aren't disrespectful? Yeah, but I had

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a visual in my head of what
PJ. Fleck looked like and it was

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a different guy. I don't know
who the guy was not sure if he's

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if he's an Ai an ai person
that was created in my brain, but

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he is right. They do look
alike. But then on on Jerry's call

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about cut, you know, just
hearing those two completely different views of things,

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here here's my takeaway. I think
there are certain jobs where you will

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not succeed at the level you are
expected to succeed in that role if you

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aren't somebody that is a little bit
cutthroat, and that is willing to be

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the guy to can somebody, and
it won't be it won't It'll be just

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another day for you. It'll be
one of the twenty things you do and

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you won't think about it for a
second after you do it. I'm not

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That's not me. I couldn't do
that. I could never. I mean,

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I guess I could if I had
to, Like you know, I'll

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do whatever have to do to make
a living and support my family. But

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I would not be a good boss
at all. I just it wouldn't be.

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It's not my it's not my personality, it's not my character. I

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could do it, but I don't
think I would be good at it.

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So Jerry's right in regards to like
the high level stakes of college basketball and

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maybe the corporate world that he's talking
about. And look, I've experienced that

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and seen that too, even even
in this business I'm in now, Like

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you know, you can just get
whacked and it'll be another day for the

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higher ups because that's just the nature
of what they how they operate, and

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really some you know, it's you
never believe it if it happens to you,

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But it isn't personal. Most of
the time, you know what I

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mean, they don't know who you
are. So but yeah, I know

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there's a lot. You know,
I tend to be more on the loose

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side just as far as my nature. I understand what Jerry was saying.

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I had to be that cutthroat to
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then I probably wouldn't be as good
as uh, you know, is

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I need to be in certain you
know, roles. Again, it all

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depends on what you're like, what
line of work you're in. You know,

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college basketball, which we were talking
about. You know, it's high

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level stakes. It's it's I mean, you've you know, you've got to

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be I mean, I was gonna
say cheating, but like it's not really

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cheating now because at this point,
I'm not kidding you knew whatever you want,

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Like, I don't really know what
is and what is not allowed right

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now when it comes to college athletics. I mean, their rules kind of

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but like nobody's enforcing them because the
nsaa's never had less power than they have

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right now. I mean transfers,
You've got people transfer in every year and

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there's no ability to stop it.
Speaking of that, Hayley van Lyth she

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has found her new school and that
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not sure how that came about,
but she is going to transfer to uh

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to TCU and uh oh let's see
here, wait a second, we have

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an update. So one of the
Cavendar twins, you know who that is,

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right? Yeah? I saw a
photo of some sort of Miami uniform.

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Yeah, so one of the Cavender
twins. They are two very attractive

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blonds that are super popular on Instagram
TikTok, I assume, and they became,

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you know, like viral stars.
They played at Miami and then they

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took a year off of college basketball
to like I think they did like WWE

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stuff. I'm not kidding. I
think they like were in w There's something

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like that. So now they are
coming back to college basketball. And one

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of them was going back to Miami
and then the other one was going to

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be going to TCU. Well,
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Hailey Cavender has decided to leave TCU
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and she was one of the most
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nah, you don't think so,
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got roasted in the National Championship game. She she was one of those players

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that, like you kind of deep
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but you knew if you were really
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really not like her if she was
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she was ours. So we embrace
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she's hated by people. And then
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in her different lens and you're like, man, like she's she's kind of

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a villain, and I really don't
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terrible attitude. I mean, she's
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but I mean she's just it's just
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of the of the the disdain excuse
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just thought that she hadn't made here
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it really came down to I guess
nil stuff that was more abundant in LSU

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at the time. Yeah. And
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don't know anything about her other than
she played at Louisville and she was pretty

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good when she was here. But
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TCU to try to team up with
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would say that, you know,
it would be another sign that she was

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more so just looking to be a
part of like this, not the circus,

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but like she went to LSUT obviously
try to get a ring to make

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some money, but also to be
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the country. You know, obviously
Kaylyn Clarkson most followed player in women's college

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basketball last year, but LSU for
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their coach who's her own you know, different story. But anyways, let's

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go back to the thone lines five
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to Mike. Mike here on Sportstock
seven ninety. How are you, hey

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man? Good well, doing well? So a lot of a lot of

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emotions today with the Reed Shepherd deal. I mean, obviously I wanted him

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to come back as a Kentucky fan
from a you know, selfish standpoint as

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far as he you know, how
great he was. Uh, but you

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know, you realize if it was
your own son, you know, yes,

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you make the same decision type of
things. So I wish him the

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best of luck. But you know, my my comparison for the NBA is

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NBA is an older guard of Kevin
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who did it all and uh,
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and was just a really really good
NBA player. So uh, that's

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my comparison on that, And I'm
curious of what your thoughts are on does

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he does him leaving help our recruiting
are hurt Kentucky's recruiting. He can only

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help. Yeah, him leaving opens
up spots for people to come in that

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they were thinking. Uh, And
that's what I felt. And then the

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other thing, I'll come on and
is a Khalifa kid? I mean when

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he first announced that he was transferring, he listed BYU Louisville and Kentucky,

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and I thought this is a troll
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But now it's like it's an ultimate
troll move by Hey, were you not

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really wanted to come to Kentucky?
So you're going to list their biggest rival

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and go to their biggest rival.
So it's interesting to see how that plays

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out. Yeah, no, that
thanks for the call, Mike, I

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appreciate it. Yeah. With with
Khalifa, I mean I think he was

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somebody that people actually just him.
Listing BYU is why he was just I'm

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sorry, listening Kentucky is why he
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to Kentucky. But whenever they're in
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reporting on Kentucky that I don't follow
and keep up with. But whenever there

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was discussion about which BYU players would
potentially follow Mark Pope, he wasn't one

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of them, despite being in the
portal. And you know, some of

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the guys at b YU probably won't
leave BYU because they're not there for Mark

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Pope. They're there because BYU it's
a rare situation that the school itself and

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the type of institution that it is
like, that's why they're there. So

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anyways, all right, so we've
had some folks asking if there's any kind

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of an update on the Jaden quaintance
visit which is going on right now,

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And I mean, do we ever
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there's more, there's much more attention
and focus on this because this is the

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number eight player in America, five
star phenom, the guy that could potentially

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be the number one pick in the
draft in a couple of years. But

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we're not gonna get an update.
I mean in the update that we would

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get would be he said his visit
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works. There's no updates. In
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update, it's probably that it wasn't
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he doesn't end up taking other visits
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And by all accounts, everybody who
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recruiting still thinks that the safest bet
is for a quaintance to end up following

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cal to Arkansas, which you know
that'll probably be what he that'll probably end

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up what happens, but who knows. I mean again, Pat Kelsey is

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a good salesman, and I would
imagine he's got some big time nil money

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to use here for a quaintance.
And again, this is a little bit

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of a different situation than most five
star freshmen because his age keeps makes it

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to where he can't He can't go
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Draft until twenty twenty six, so
he's a two year guy essentially. All

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right, let's let's do this.
Let's go ahead and take our first break

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here. We'll come back on the
other side, get back to your phone

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calls, and then we will also
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W two five seventy nine hundred is
the number. Let's go to JP JP.

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How are you, sir? I'm
good, Nick. I just want

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to ask a real quick question about
I know, can Lucky and Saint John's

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are now going to have a home
and home because of the whole Patino probe

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thing, But I got to I
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it even happen with Kelsey entertain the
idea of also having a home and home

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with Saint John's and kind of Lowell
and Kentucky both kind of honor and Rick

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before he retires. That's a great
question, and JP, I appreciate the

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call. Man I would say that, and I don't you know, we'll

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learn more about Pat Kelsey as far
as how he wants to schedule. You

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know, his scheduling at the low
mid at the mid major level at Winthrop

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and Charleston was probably he's looking for
any any power program to play him because

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it gives his chance a team to
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I mean, I guess the dream
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to not need to win your tournament
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tournament a lot, so he never
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you know, I can't see why
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Saint John's. I mean, I
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it would be maybe a love fest
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holding court and just having people just
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his hand. So maybe maybe that's
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shock me. And honestly, that's
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as a coach and how he's going
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me to know which way he would
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I could see him not wanting to
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but I could see him not wanting
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Louisville, not because of Pat Kelsey, but just because he still feels a

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certain way about how things ended.
I think he knows that the people in

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charge now are not the ones that
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the sound we played yesterday from Richard
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their search and his dad kind of
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the thought of Richard considering the job
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confirms that, you know, I
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here right now to be mad at, but he's still bitter about that whole

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situation, and that really isn't that
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All Right, let's bring in the
one the only he is, Kent Spencer

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from w h A s eleven?
Can how are we doing on this beautiful

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Thursday afternoon, sir man can't couldn't
be better, beautiful, beautiful day outside,

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no doubt about that. And I'll
just start pick up where we just

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left off there. Do you think
Rick Bettino if if Louisville was to initiate,

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you know, a series and say, hey, we'll play a home

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at home. Do you want to
do it? My gut tells me he'd

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say no. What do you think
I think? I think right now,

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I think he would still say thanks, but no thanks. It would not

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be probably, you know, a
harsh no, but I think we are

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right now. I would imagine that
it would be a thanks for no thanks.

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Yeah. And I'd say, if
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like back at Louisville to be honored
or something like that, I think it'd

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be really far down the line,
you know, to where he's not coaching

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anymore. But then again, like
I don't think Rick will ever not coach

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unless he physically just cannot do it. No. And you know, Richard

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was on a podcast this week to
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like while he was intrigued it was
going to be you know, an

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interesting deal because his dad still covered
you know, negative feelings about how everything

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went down, you know, here
at Louisville. So clearly Rick still feels

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some sort of way about about the
school and everything. All right, let's

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switch gears here to the new head
coach at the University of Kentucky. Last

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time we talked, I think everybody
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going to be Scott Drew. I
was, most people certainly were, but

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he decided to stay at Baylor,
and then it quickly shifted to Mark Pope.

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They got it done quickly, as
soon as he became I guess the

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top candidate. Just you know,
your early impressions here. Obviously, he's

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a successful coach. He's done well
at BYU, did well at Utah Valley

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State. But what makes this,
you know, the fact that he's a

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former Kentucky player that played in an
era that really helped Kentucky establish themselves as

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one of the biggest brands in the
sport. I mean, I just I

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think Kentucky fans didn't really know what
that that was going to feel like until

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he showed up and talked to them, and it probably you know, hit

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him in a way they didn't expect. You know, think think about this,

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Nick, you know, when the
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Thursday night, Yeah, it was
about as negative a reaction as you

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could possibly have on on a higher
you know, especially with the names that

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that had kind of been been thrown
out there. By the time we got

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to Sunday afternoon, it was absolutely
completely flipped, you know, in the

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other direction. And then the introductory
news conference and all of this stuff,

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and so there's there's a lot of
I think good vibes in their fan base

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about you know, him being hired, him getting the job, him understanding

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things that he wants to get done, you know. And and when you

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first hear about the hire, you're
like, well, what, well,

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what what? Then you kind of
starting to digging into it, and you're

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like, oh, he's he is
a pretty good coach. He is a

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pretty good recruiter. But ultimately,
like this all comes down to whether we're

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talking about Mark Popek Kentucky, whether
we're talking about Pat Kelsey at Louisville.

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You know, those guys have been
have proven that they can coach, can

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you get players, and can you
win at this level that you know,

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for all of that, I think
it remains remains to be seen. But

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I will say this because whether you're
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you're Kentucky fans who want big names, you know, to take over your

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job. I was kind of doing
a kind of a deep dive and just

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really giving this some thought. And
I was trying to think about the last

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two coaches at established prominent programs that
we would think that are really good basketball

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programs that made a move to a
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program. And I got to kind
of thinking about this, and I was

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like, you know, the last
one that I could kind of recall is

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Cali Perry when he went from Memphis
to Kentucky. And then I got to

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think, and I was like,
and then before that, it's probably Roy

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Williams from Kansas to North Carolina.
But he just was going home, you

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know, North Carolina was home.
SCEO. Kansas would lose their coach.

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00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:22.960
Yeah, it doesn't happen like often
at all. I mean you could say,

409
00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.400
maybe, like, you know,
I can listen to the argument of

410
00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:30.880
Bill self when he went from Illinois
to Kansas, but you know, he

411
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:36.319
had really done much before he made
that move, so like this, this

412
00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:38.559
stuff just doesn't happen. I mean
you look about the blue bloods and who

413
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:42.319
they replaced and stuff like that.
It's it's it's lower tier, lower named

414
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:47.759
folks that that have to prove it
once they get in that seat. I

415
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:52.359
mean, four years ago, Danny
Hurley was not the greatest coach in college

416
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:56.039
basketball. He is now, but
he wasn't even three years ago. So

417
00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:02.079
you know, it's about getting the
opportunity and then could you seize it and

418
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:06.359
what you do from it from there. I think both fan bases as of

419
00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:11.160
now are very excited about the new
era that each of them have and the

420
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:15.640
fresh start, and both are coming
off of very different situations. Meaning Louisville

421
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.160
was really really bad for two years. In Kentucky, you know, they've

422
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.720
been good. It's just it was
quite clear that the Caliperi, you know,

423
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:25.559
I don't want to call it an
experiment, because he had a great

424
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:26.920
run there, but it had kind
of just run its course, and just

425
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.640
the thought of kind of running it
back and doing it again, I think

426
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:33.079
their fans would have still bought in
and believed because that's what they do.

427
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:33.960
And I don't say that as a
criticism, that's just I mean, what

428
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.000
are you gonna do you're a fan. But I think one of the reasons

429
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.000
why, you see, because let's
be real, we all know that most

430
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:45.119
Louisville fans and most Kentucky fans did
not name Pat Kelcey and Mark Pope Is

431
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:47.960
guys that they really wanted to see
take the job once he became clear they

432
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:51.519
were gonna be looking for a coach. But I think these guys not only

433
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:55.000
being able to really you know,
talk, I mean, these guys were

434
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:59.039
both impressive, but I think it's
such a drastic difference than what both fan

435
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:00.839
bases were used to with previous coach. With Kenny, it was just,

436
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.799
you know, kind of a lifeless
program that didn't win a lot. With

437
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.039
Cal I mean, it was clear
he just wasn't happy. He would vaguely

438
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:11.119
take shots at fans at times and
things like that. I think one of

439
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.000
the early reasons why these fan bases
just seem to be so all in is

440
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:17.960
because not only are they excited because
it's new, but it's just it's something

441
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:19.799
they haven't experienced, right. I
Mean, Pat Kelsey's way different than aybody

442
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.880
that's coaching this program that I could
think of and with Mark Pope. I

443
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.920
mean, to me, he just
seems like the polar opposite of John cal

444
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.400
Perry. Yeah, no, I
mean, like, look, Pat Kelsey

445
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.839
is energy plus Kenny Payne. You
know, I don't know if you would

446
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:41.240
describe him in such a manner,
you know, And so but then you

447
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:44.480
look at like Mark Pope and you
listen to some of the things that he

448
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:48.720
said in that that press conference.
You know, Cali Perry was dead set

449
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:53.079
against you know, playing in the
Maui Invitational, Mark Pope. How about

450
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:57.880
how about Kentucky goes back to Maui, Mark Pope. It's not just about

451
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:02.839
banners. It's also about SEC panners. John Calipari, I don't care about

452
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:06.519
the SEC tournament. I mean,
are those those were coincidences? No,

453
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:10.400
those were not coincidences. And so
it's it's all about, you know,

454
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:15.279
understanding where it is and Okay,
where does our fan base, how does

455
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:19.680
our fan base need to heal?
And to this point, both guys have

456
00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:26.640
done a great job of you know, getting getting some wound, helping us

457
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:27.599
heal. I mean, I'm a
lofa fan myself. I mean, that's

458
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:30.200
what that's that's what it's happening right
now, and it was needed in a

459
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:36.960
major way. Yep, what do
you think about you know, Caliperry at

460
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:41.519
Arkansas as far as I mean like
this thing, I just don't see a

461
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.359
scenario where it'll ever be you know, like super cordial, right, Like

462
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.000
I think you know, I don't. I don't think you're going to see

463
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:49.200
anybody fist fight. And then I
don't think you know you're gonna see Cali

464
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:52.039
Perry, you know, turn into
like a w W E heel and start

465
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:56.880
cutting promos. But like he's gonna
not only because he's just a competitor,

466
00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:59.960
but I think he's gonna want to
stick it to Kentucky in every way right

467
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:07.039
under guess what only natural? I
mean, the reason why he makes the

468
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:11.160
move is because you know, he
felt like the situation at Kentucky was no

469
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:19.079
longer fixable and it was didn't be
fault Yeah, and so you know that's

470
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:25.279
why that's why you make the move. And so in order to do that,

471
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:26.839
and you're if you're going to stay
in the same conference, yeah,

472
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.400
you want to stick it to him? Only natural? Only natural. Look,

473
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:36.319
I know that he's still going to
get players like that's like he is

474
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:41.400
still the best recruiter in the game, and so he's gonna get dudes.

475
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:45.079
But you know, I know this, he took a lot of the same

476
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:51.880
staff that you know struggled in the
last couple of years, and so you

477
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:55.519
know, he really didn't change much
of that, if at all. And

478
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:59.759
so that'll be interesting to see how
how they handle that and how you know,

479
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:02.759
if a fire is re lit and
fail. Bill all right, I

480
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:07.480
want to switch gears here real quick
to football. Leisl football has their spring

481
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:10.480
game tomorrow and like every other coach
in the country, Jeff Brohm and his

482
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:15.200
whole staff monitoring the transfer portal.
What do you make of these guys that

483
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:20.119
show up mid year, after the
winter semester and some of them, I'm

484
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:22.880
sure all of them are getting some
level of nil, some probably a pretty

485
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:24.680
lucrative level, depending on who they
are. I just think, you know,

486
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:28.200
as much as the players have all
the power, and you know,

487
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:32.200
it's made things weird the fact that
I show up after their season ends only

488
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:37.759
to go through you know, really
half a semester, play spring ball and

489
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.680
then leave like that, Just like
that. That's the ultimate like example I

490
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:45.039
think of how this is just too
chaotic. There needs to be some level

491
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:49.319
of like regulation and rule. I
go, I go back to the same

492
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:55.599
thing. Athletic departments need to handle
the money. Yeah, contracts, Contracts

493
00:32:55.640 --> 00:33:01.640
need to be signed. Like it's
all broken and it's all really really shady

494
00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:07.920
and dirty. It is really broken. I mean it's so broken and so

495
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:10.799
and and make no mistake about it. I am. I've always been for

496
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:16.440
you know, the players and the
athletes getting compensated. I've always been for

497
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:22.000
that. But the way that this
whole thing is now, it's just it's

498
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.720
trash, well said, and it's
I mean, it's it's a shame too

499
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:30.000
because the because of the n C
double A just wanting for so long to

500
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:35.799
continue with the archaic amateurism model,
and then Congress gets involved. It led

501
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:39.480
to this thing, you know,
kind of positioning to where the if you

502
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:42.720
want to if you if you want
to get good players, you know you're

503
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:45.000
gonna have to have nil in place, and you're gonna have to have the

504
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.240
resources to do that. But you
know, you're just throwing money away potentially,

505
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:52.160
right because technically, because you're not
paying them to play, it's not

506
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.079
a contract. It's coming from you
know, an outside source. You know,

507
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:57.680
you're just paying these people to be
these people right, to just exist.

508
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:00.759
There's nothing about being a basketball player. It's just in agreement because you

509
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:01.960
know their name, image and likeness, which we know that's not why they're

510
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:06.079
doing it, but it makes it
to where these guys could get millions and

511
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:07.840
leave and like, no, there's
nothing you can do about it. Like

512
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:14.400
the players have no and no responsibility
and it's the and and you know they're

513
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:16.960
there. There lies the problem.
I think it's it is that's why it's

514
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:22.159
a total sham, right, Like
n I L. It's still like it's

515
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.559
still run by the programs. Yeah, I mean it's it's not, but

516
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:30.000
it is exactly you know what I
mean. Like and it's not even n

517
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:34.880
I L. Like we're it's just
pay for play. Yeah, like maybe

518
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.079
every now I mean we call it
in I L. But like that's not

519
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.760
at all what it is. Nobody
is like nobody's making investments in regards to

520
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:44.360
a potential return on set investment for
your for your company. It's it's it's

521
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:47.840
buying players. Oh and and and
all these collectives are still attached to the

522
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:52.000
schools. I mean they still have
if there's still plenty of involvement there.

523
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:57.000
It's just like I said, the
whole thing is and and you know,

524
00:34:57.079 --> 00:34:59.800
I'm all about, like, can
we can we quit with the charade?

525
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.599
Can we just let the athletic departments
handle the funds? And then they and

526
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:08.039
then players signed contracts and you agree
to terms and this is what you're going

527
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:12.559
to make for the next year or
two years or however long you want to

528
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:16.800
sign that contract and then it's it's
binding and let's go to work. And

529
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:21.639
so, you know, I just
feel like there's just you know, I

530
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:24.280
used to feel like I needed to
take a shower when I go to AAU

531
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:28.760
stuff. Now when we're dealing with
you know, contract, you know,

532
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:30.559
nil and all that stuff. Man, I feel like I need to take

533
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:37.239
two showers. Yeah, And it's
it. It it's changed really everything.

534
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:38.800
I mean when you think when you
know, when I watch college football,

535
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:42.760
in college basketball, for the most
part, I don't notice. I mean

536
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.519
maybe seeing a guy that I realized, oh wow, that guy played for

537
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:46.719
a different school for three years.
I didn't realize he transfer. But other

538
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:50.119
than that, between the lines,
you know, the product I think is

539
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:52.199
still is still pretty good and it
hasn't been impacted as far as just a

540
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:55.079
visual standpoint, but when you think
of everything outside of it, it is

541
00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:59.639
it's a different world compared to what
it was just three years ago. And

542
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:01.679
it's just seems as if, you
know, I don't know, some's got

543
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:04.719
to give. But then again,
you know that would mean like the NC

544
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.159
doublea making some kind of a swift
move here, but and I just don't

545
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:12.880
see that happening. I mean,
Petty Bood went through three weeks of practice,

546
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:17.400
you got paid too. I mean, like what my man didn't even

547
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:22.840
make it to the spring game.
Yeah, I mean it's again the whole

548
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:24.800
even mid year. As I mentioned
that, that just to me, like

549
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:29.159
that just that's it's got to make
coaches think like what am I doing here?

550
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:32.239
Like because coaches obviously, I mean, they know they got to have

551
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:37.320
players be compensated to get them to
come there and whatnot, but they really

552
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.679
can't have direct involvement. And and
also like if nil resources end up not

553
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:44.880
being what they thought, like,
you know, they can't control that,

554
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.239
right, So I think that you'll
see more and more coaches kind of walk

555
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:53.000
away over time unless something changes,
and it's probably not just because the job

556
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:57.280
is changed. It'll be because they
literally have no ability. Right, if

557
00:36:57.280 --> 00:36:59.079
they could pay out of their own
pocket and they had the money, they

558
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:00.920
could, but you know they're not
allowed to do that. It's just it's

559
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:02.760
an absolute mess. In fact,
i'll use the word you used, it's

560
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:07.280
trash. I think that's the best
way to describe the current situation with Portal

561
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:09.719
Free Agency. It's it's it's entertaining
for you know, for shows like this,

562
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:13.000
but as far as just I mean
this point, keeping up with it

563
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:17.400
is is impossible. If if I
was a coach and I and I felt

564
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:22.960
like I had made enough money,
dude, I bounce like I don't.

565
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:28.159
I don't blame Jay, right,
I don't blame Nick Saban, Mike Kruszewski,

566
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:34.800
certain coaches like it's just man,
it's it's rough out there. Yeah,

567
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.079
it's uh, it's wild, no
doubt. Keep I appreciate the time.

568
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:42.159
Go ahead. And by the way, it's also like as is right

569
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.679
now, it's I don't think it's
sustainable like you. I think you are

570
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:51.480
literally living year to year. Yeah, I'm with you. At some point

571
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.480
those funds they dry up a little
bit. Well, and then if you

572
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:57.880
do it for three four years and
you know, these people have thrown all

573
00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:00.480
this money and there really isn't a
big result for it, Like they're going

574
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:01.559
to realize what am I doing?
You know what I mean? And that's

575
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:05.719
yeah, something's got to give,
there's no doubt about it. But can't

576
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:08.360
appreciate the time as always, my
man, enjoy the conversation and enjoy this

577
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:12.599
beautiful weather. We'll talk to you
soon. Brother. All right, that's

578
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.639
Kin Spencer from WHS eleven. Always
appreciate his time. Quick break, we'll

579
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:16.760
come back on the other side of
wrap up the four o'clock hour. Keep

580
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:21.199
this thing rolling along again. It
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581
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the five o'clock hour, because there's
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606
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all that. Let you guys get back

607
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this thing rolling along, but really quickly.

608
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One of the things I did want
to mention before we get to the

609
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top of the hour here for those
who you know, for those who I

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guess have missed the majority of the
show, the revenue for each this is

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make sure I get mixed. Yeah, so this is from a guy named

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Jeff Fuller who is a data stats
contributor for the Four Letter Network, and

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he has the grand total athletic revenue. I suppose this is from the twenty

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twenty three year, but I'll get
specifics. Yeah, it says here this

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is twenty twenty two. I'm sorry, And this is the revenue that each

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I guess FBS school made. So
this is really just the football schools as

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far as the Division one level,
because obviously there's three hundred and three hundred

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and sixty something Division one teams in
basketball, but when it comes to FBS

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and football, it's more like one
is it? One thirty or something like

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that. John that's pretty close twenty
one to thirty something around there. But

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Texas was number one with two hundred
and sixty one million, followed by Ohio

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State, Notre Dame, USC,
Georgia, Michigan, Kansas, Kansas has

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got to be basketball, right with
football a little bit here and there,

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Penn State, LSU, and then
Nebraska, and then eleven through twenty is

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Texas, A and M Auburn,
Tennessee, Alabama, Wisconsin, Oklahoma,

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Stanford, Florida, Arkansas, and
Florida State. So I'm pretty sure the

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first non big ten SEC school that
you see other than Notre Dame who's independent

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is Florida State, right, I
mean, yeah, I'm sorry Stanford was

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Stanford's in there and there of course
PAC twelve now acc moving forward, but

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Kentucky came in at number twenty two
with one hundred and sixty six million dollars,

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Louisville at number twenty let's see twenty
five at one hundred and fifty five

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million dollars, and then Indiana is
at thirty one with one hundred and forty

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three million dollars, Which what that
tells me is that Indiana would be a

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monster as far as athletic revenue,
if football like had life, Yeah,

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I've heard people say they're a sleeping
giant I mean for revenue, yeah,

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because they do really well and it
really has not much. I mean,

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they get a big revenue share from
the Big Ten obviously, but they they

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don't probably have I mean, their
money from like season ticket sales is probably

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just throw away money for them,
because it's just not a huge chunk.

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All right, quick break, we'll
come back. Keep this thing rolling along

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