Hello, everybody. Welcome, So that's not Mettal, your weekly rock and
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on them. My name is Brian heirsh Sam Dignam is here. It's just
the two of us today. We are ready to attack all this. Yeah,
yeah, no, nothing's really changed since I saw you last night on
There we are. We recall did something yesterday which I will detail a little
bit later for patrons, but yeah, Hyperblast, let's do it. I
was at a little show this week. I went to see Mirka with Jonathan
Holton, which is a Mika. I go sort of like on and off
in terms of like how intero myka I am. And it's not like she's
one of those I get that that with as well. Yeah, I don't
know, it's funny and you know, sometimes I might not have gone along,
but you know, I was like, it's been several years since I've
seen her now and had Jonathan Holton's sporting as well, and I thought,
I'm you know, I should go out and see the boat two those together.
Jonathan Holton, former guitarist Tribulation who left a few years ago and now
does this like acoustic folk type project, so very suited to support something like
Miaka. Hadn't seen him live before. I quite enjoyed, you know that
the folky record he did, but go and see him live. He was
always the most like effeminate, flamboyant one in Tribulation, And you'd imagine like
a you know your version right of a focus singer songwriter project is like Brian
Fallon, right, yeah, this and what did he's wearing. He looks
like a cross between Fuckingnrgle when he's got the big bart to bell hat on
the woman in Black and one of the Reverend Mothers from June, just like
a full on I saw the picture of that commitment to the bit and going
all out in the costume and I'm like, yeah, fair play, Like
yeah, god go hard on that For a one man with his guitar projects,
it's quite intense. Here's like, yeah, here's like an acoustic songs,
you know, with the guitar, nice, very well done. There's
tracks where he kind of like it's like every other song he kind of go
between that and one where he's just kind of vocalizing as part of like a
harmony with like backing tracks and stuff and just sort of like waving his arms
around with maybe a little bit less stimulating in terms of like the mixing and
everything, but you know, a decent showing and and Mirka again, you
know, she's a funny one, isn't she, Because like there were there
were songs from like across the catalog in the set list, but she didn't
play any songs that required like the black or screaming, So I wonder if
she's maybe like phasing that out a bit or something, because the new record
is a bit like black metal's answer to old pop or something like it is
there's still the black metal elements in there, but certainly not vocally, and
it's all very sort of like quite softened, you know, blissful sort of
version. And it's my least favorite record of hers. But there was that
lead single like Humans song is great and live that was like genuinely massive with
like a bit more kind of like punch and Power that's from what's on that
record, which is you know, the same for a few of those tracks.
Again stripping out any of them, like the properly extreme songs, it
did mean that like a number of what I would say are her best tracks
like weren't necessarily in the set list, But in terms of the performance and
how like the band sounded, I think it was easily the best Medica show
that I've seen, because I saw a couple earlier on that maybe didn't sound
so good, and this felt like, oh, yeah, you're like a
properly you know, established professional, you know exactly what's going on kind of
act now. And again there were still songs in there that kind of like
go hard on the black speets and stuff like that, but just the vibe
of it is a bit like like I don't know if this even really is
a black metal show anymore. It's just kind of sort of strange and you
know, a unique little pocket that she does. It's like fully gone into
the realms of being this kind of black metal folk pop thing. And on
the folk front she did she released that album during COVID of like kind of
Scandinavian folk music that, you know, I wasn't expecting much from it in
the set, so I think there was like there was like one song on
the set list from before this date, but I really love that album and
I listened to it like a decent amount. And there's a song on that
record that I fucking love called House Carpenter, And just for the first time
on the tour, she brought out Jonathan Hulton to play guitar and played that
song, which like, if I'd if I'd seen that on the set list
for like, you know, that date after not going, I would have
been fucking livid so that that could be made my night. And yeah,
they very much enjoyed it. Talking about news today, we are going to
start with I guess something else that both of us did this week is we
independently we went along to see the new film Monkey Man, just as as
enjoyers of violent action cinema. I suppose I thought the film was all right,
you know, promising, but it's one what I was like, Yeah,
I was kind of for a lot of it. It was like,
it's pretty good, it's it's a it's a vercial debut, but it just
as we're gonna get onto does certain things that were kind of maybe go ah,
you know what, the problems don't matter. This is just pushing like
my buttons to make me just born in love with this movie. Yeah that's
fair enough. Again, I thought it was like, you know, fine
and a promising, you know, interesting sort of piece of work, even
if not everything is kind of ironed out yet. But one thing that happens
in that movie, and I guess, you know, we should make this
almost a staple on the news when it happens, because it is something gaining
some kind of exposure. There's a fight scene in that movie when suddenly a
huge fucking just like gen memo, yeah, just smacks in and I was
like, oh shit, okay, And then waiting around in the credits seeing
that the songs come up, I was like, oh, of course it's
bloody. Would of so I wondered because I didn't stick up acided to dash
off. I've been in I need to go home, but I wanted when
it happened, and I was like, is that bloody wood? I'm not
familiar enough with bloody would kind of like pinpoint, but I was like,
you could tell it was like a Jenny guitar with kind of like the sort
of Indian influences kind of week into it a little bit, so I was
like, it would make sense if it was. And then when I found
out coming out, I was like, yes, it was Bloody I was
like, yeah, of course, makes complete sense. Because again, if
you're not familiar with the film Monkey Man, it's directed by Dead Petel and
it's like a you know, an Indian set again kind of violent action movie.
But if you're going to drop a big Indian metal band, then Bloody
Wood is like the front and center answer. And it's funny because I've not
really been very keen on Bloody Would and it's the kind of like, you
know, I don't really like that kind of gent very much, and mixing
it with the new metal and stuff, it's not really my thing. And
I saw them Bloodstock a couple of years ago and I was like, you
know, people are into it, but it's not for me. And I
went and coming out of the cinema, I went on you know, streaming,
and I pulled up that song and I listened to it again and I
was like, fuck, in the movie, I forgot the fact that there's
like bad rapping and stuff in that song and they keep just the you know,
yeah, it's clear. I don't know if he's been s of like
get that bit, the riff that sounds hard and the kind of like some
of the like the Indian influence has weaved into yeah, dramatically appropriate without the
bits that maybe would like sound a bit nasty. Yeah, so again put
up the song off was like, yeah, no, I still don't like
this this song very much, all this band, but in the context of
the movie, it's a pretty fucking sick moment. So a nice little bit
of a you know, a public moment there for bloody would that that was
when there's other thing I don't want to go into that the spoiler details of
why that bit for me in particular is like this is the this is the
fucking best. Yeah, Like, there are there are things again that I
would I would recommend going see the movie. Isn't it like interesting, like
ambitious, passionate debut film that has that does have flaws, but this was
like, oh yeah, cool metal getting spoiled out along with other things I
love. Let's just ignore the problems and have a great time watching this part
of the movie. Yeah. So again, even with a band that I
don't actually like very much. That's the kind of the the heartwarming, hell
yeah, heavy metal story of the week, I think a very you know,
people will always talk about metal needle drops in movies from like the early
two thousands or whatever, and it's nice to have a you know again,
a huge internationally released movie that has something similar in it. Next up,
we are going to talk about something that I was kind of um and erring
about putting in for reasons that you know, if you have been following the
kind of online conversation in the last few months, you will know exactly what
I'm referring to. If not, we hadn't kind of fully addressed it,
which maybe, you know, I've seen people who are a little bit sort
of out of the loop on it. So basically, we we've reached a
point where we kind of if we're like in and out the door, you
know, it's like we have to kind of say something. And but if
I wasn't to put architects in the news this week, I felt I would
looking at the script and I was like, if I don't put this in
right now, I feel like there's an almost a conspicuous architect shaped hole that
looks like we are kind of consciously ignoring something and tiptoeing around it. It's
the biggest mus release from our world this week like that at the moment,
isn't it. Yeah, So we're going to talk about Architects a little bit.
Of course. The statual story that's prompted this this week is that they
have released a new single. It is called Curse. It's the I guess,
the second single of the sort of current whatever the current campaign is.
We've not got an album announce or anything, but there was that seeing Red
single not long ago, I think maybe the end of last year. I
think we'd stopped doing shows around the time. That's why we didn't talk about
it. But we now got Cursed, the second big and again some of
the really I guess warrants the discussion is it is produced and recorded with Jordan
Fish, who we spoke about on you Know the New Show a month or
so ago, talking about like, yeah, it's Jordan Fish is leaving the
horizon in order to pursue recording with and producing bands and stuff like that.
That's kind of one of his most key characteristics of what he kind of brought
to you know, bring me the Horizon. So we were very curious always
about what he would go on to do, and so him working with a
band of you know, architects stature was naturally going to be a massive kind
of meeting of mine for a lot of people. And this song Curse is
out and there is the other element of Architects of on a musical level,
some people are kind of losing interest in terms of on a purely musical level.
I guess how would you describe the sort of the state Architects are act
in terms of I don't know, evolving, changing where people are viewing where
they're at. I mean again, it's hard like I'm trying to sort separate
my famus as purely as musical thing and separate from what we're going to get
onto. Yeah, for me, this feels like a band who are just
like settled in as being a big, polished sounding radio melcor band. This
is the like, I mean, this is the most stale Architects I've ever
sounded this song, right, I I actually quite like this song and I
think it I prefer it to a decent amount of what was on the last
album. I think it's maybe be better than what was on the last album.
I do agree, but this this could be a polarist album track to
me, okay, that's that's fair enough. I would again that maybe part
of my problem the last album, which I'm overall I thought was solid,
but maybe again the fact that there was like ten songs like that in sequence
that were large and I agree with that was an issue there. Maybe just
getting one single here, I've been like, oh yeah, cool, that
hits a spot. I think it's got a really good chorus. I think
it's got a more memorable chorus than what was most of on that album,
aside from the couple of you know, singles from that that record. And
I guess the Jordan Fish factor is obviously I think it's a you know,
in a commercial sense. It's obviously a very clearly well produced song that has
all the big, shiny elements you want from that kind of thing. I
think Architects were kind of a band who were already at that point, and
I said, this is my problem with it. I don't yeah, I
don't hear a I don't hear something lacking. But I aside from just you
know, this is what radio metalc course sounds like, which we've discussed many
times before about whether that's for us or not. But I don't hear like
a huge leap forward for having included Jordan Fish from what they were kind of
already doing. You know, this is why I think it sounds like the
productions are the bigger problem for me. The chorus like not as say,
it's not a big chorus, but it sounds way too clean cut and polished
in a way that architects, even on those last few records where they were,
you know, going from more produced or stadium sound or arena rock sound,
those choruses had a bit more on. This feels really like squeaky clean
and just a little bit soulleess to me on a production. I think it
is the production that where I feel like I'm landing more with the problems with
this. And I don't think they needed what Jordan Fishes brought to the table.
And I think there will be bands who will really benefit from what Jordan
Fish is doing. I don't think Architects have benefited at all from it.
Yeah, I think that's fair. I think Architects were already a you know,
shiny, high glass, state of the art enough band that they didn't
need sort of someone shining up even more. Yeah, like dragging, yeah,
dragging them further into that. I think, you know, again the
kind of the sort of the twenty twenty style proper you know, festival headlining
as we'll see the summer kind of architects you know era, I think,
you know, for those that wish to exist, I thought was excellent kind
of from twenty twenty. Was it two that the album, the second one
came out? From then on, you know, they've not been the most
exciting band to me, I would say of that era of songs purely on
like a chorus, like catchy. I spent a couple times in a row
level. I think this is one of the better singles I do. But
in terms of a big Jordan Fish story factor, it's weirdly less interesting than
a you know, one of the biggest bands meets one of the star producers
kind of meeting. You know, you'd think on paper would be it.
Maybe it is a fact that again architects have kind of already been there,
and I suppose you would be more risted to see what Jordan Fish would do
for bands who aren't already kind of the spirit bots Club is or what not
that make more sense because they are the ones who I think could benefit from
going like more down that route and just really tiling up that sort side of
it. Architects. To me, it's just like it's just made it sound
more sterile and not as exciting that like again on Sam's claims, the grit
is kind of almost entirely gone and it is just a squeaky seam pop vocal
at this point. Yeah, that's fair. Again, I think it's a
good track. I just think it's yeah, not a game changer basically,
there is. Unfortunately, there's another reason around architects that we've not spoken much
about them recently. We haven't. You know, even if I thought this
track was sensational, we I'd find it difficult to go completely all in on
them right now. And if you are someone who knows all this that we're
about to say, then you know, I apologize for the next few minutes.
It's just kind of again, we haven't addressed it so far. I
feel that we have to kind of set out our store just so people know
where we are at, so we don't have to strangely tiptoe around something.
Get a band as big as Architects for the foreseeable, which is the issues
that have been going on around the guitarist in the band, Adam Christensen,
for the past few months, and how the band have kind of responded and
reacted to that kind of thing. So to go over again the story that
many of you may know, some of you may not. I think it
was January of this year. This year, yeah, very star the ye
not long after that, seeing red Song had come out. Adam Christensen,
the guitarist in Architects who's been there since twenty fifteen ish, I was looking
earlier good while now, yeah, I come with the exact sort of timeline
of events or when he was like a session member for a while and then
officially joined the band in like twenty eighteen. Maybe, Yeah, he retweeted
something from the pretty you know, very right leaning American commentator. I think
it was Tim Poole, wasn't it. He retweeted something from him, a
little clip. A bunch of people saw this and thought, hey, what
the fuck, Why is you know, a guitarist from architect A famously kind
of left leaning or at the very least, you know, kind of socially
responsible kind of act who have built a lot of their reputation on that retweeting
you know something from a commentator who a lot of people would describe as being
you know, a bigoted, you know, far right kind of guy.
A Christensen said sorry, I didn't mean to do that. He did also
say in that tweet, I don't agree with anything that guy has just said,
apart from fuck Justin Trudeau, which was the subject of the comment that
he'd kind of retweeted, which that in itself a lot of people jump to.
You can't accidentally retweet something that's not a phone impact to hit the button
twice. Yeah, so it's a question thing in itself for me again just
looking at that, if it was purely that at the very least, he
went, hey, I disagree with a lot of what has been said here
apart from that one thing. Right, So if it was left there,
fine, What then happened? It was a bunch of people basically went exploring
through, you know, against social media history and everything. People had had
their suspicions before because of his engagement with certain accounts where again never sort of
sharing anything to this level of sort of malicious, but there was kind of
there'd been pass engage with people. Well, people were side eyeing him,
I think, and waiting for the moment where he shared something dodgy. Yeah,
and again for me when when he like retreated that thing, he you
know, disavowed it. Fine, But what then happened was people went back
found that he had liked a whole bunch of similar, you know, far
right leaning kind of accounts and stuff like that, and particularly there was It's
difficult now because we're talking about a few months after the event. All of
Architet's social media account have gone right, so it's difficult trying to find the
screenshots and stuff of what was there. But particularly there were you know,
transphobic tweets and accounts and stuff that were kind of being engaged with and being
you know, supported by Adam there. I think for a lot of people,
even though as you say, maybe people were side eye into a degree
from a band like Architects, I think that would come to a massive of
shock to a lot of their fans because they have spent you know, well
over a fucking decade building up a largely again kind of uh you know,
progressive, progressive is the word I'm looking for again, you know, socially
aware kind of fan base through their music and the messages they were putting out
there and stuff. So people are like, hey, this is fucking mad.
How are the rest of architects gonna respond? And the unfortunate thing that's
kind of brought us to where we are here today is that they just sort
of didn't. There was one incident, like a few days after this whole
thing kicked off in January, where they were on tour at the time,
and Sam from the stage basically said, hey, you know, no one
on this stage is going to judge you for your your sexuality or your gender
or anything like that. And unfortunately, the response to that was basically people
going, he's behind you, right, it's like the guy, yeah,
Sam Carter talking on behalf of the band, the guy not speaking for himself
who was actually having these things, you know, kind of target him in
this in this way particularly, No online statement or anything was made. It
was just like said to a room of their fans who were obviously already in
the room there with them. So they turned up not having much of a
problem, right, Like anyone who had decided to stay home or whatever wasn't
fucking in that room. That that apology, if you can even call it,
that, which wasn't really you know, was kind of given to So
it was a bit of like a hey, you know that hasn't actually cleared
up why the guitarist and architects has been, you know, supporting all of
this transphobic kind of rhetoric online and that's the only comment that has been given
and in the several few months, because people have not let it be kind
of forgotten. In that sense, every architects you know, social post or
whatever has been greeted with a whole load of people being like, hey,
someone fucking say something about you know, the transphobia rhetoric that your guitarists could
has you know, been supporting over the years, and as unfortunately you just
see on the internet swarms of people you know, to the opposite point of
view coming into you know, battle those people in those kind of spaces.
This is why I haven't engaged with it in the most recent example, because
at the time when I did call out, I was just like, just
not worth it. I can't be dealing with like the transferred big attacks I
was getting in my mentions calling it out at the time. So this is
kind of why I was like, I'm just gonna wash my hands, Ben,
but I'm leaving it. I don't. This is just not worth the
sort of hassle. Yes, And so basically you've got you know, architects
social spaces are a war of people being like, hey, what's going on?
And you know, a hell of a lot of transphobes coming into four
architects and defend them. And architect's response has been to a block a bunch
of people who are like continually kind of asking these questions rather than actually engage
with them. And you know, I am of the opinion that if you
are someone who has a large platform, you have some kind of social responsibility
to dissuade your audience in certain ways. I guess if there are you know,
if you have areas in your community that are being racist, transphobic,
homophobic, whatever, hateful in any kind of way, you have a responsibility
to sort of step up and say, hey, simmer down. And uh,
There's been no such moves from architects that we have seen. So what
has been allowed to happen is basically a huge amount of fucking transphobes coming in
swarming the architect's social pages again, fighting on their behalf and the band have
let that go and checked. And this brings us to again, we are
in April right now, They've just released another single and just continually no kind
of no addressing of what's gone on with Adam, no attempts to stem the
huge fucking, you know, flood of bigots in their kind of social comments
or anything like that. And uh, yeah, it makes talking about architects
in a positive capacity right now pretty fucking difficult. Yeah. I mean,
the thing for me with this one was like, if this had been you
know, pick any fucking us radio rock band whatever, you know, like
it would suck like but I wouldn't. I don't think it would kick up
nearly as much rests. A lot of people were just goin to go like,
oh whatever, Like when it's Architects who are a band who have sold
their entire sort of reputation on the last how like ten plus years now at
this point, really since the early twenty ten's on kind of being socially conscious
progressive, they wrote songs that are like were calling out bigotry in religion on
Yeah, that's why a lot of people feel betrayed by this. Yeah,
and this was it. It was it was And the thing is is the
initial video shared, there was you know, he could said the function shouted
a bit, but there was you know, oh, this is not what
real men are. That there was like homophobic and like transfer in that initial
video and and there was a lot of like again, Architicts are a band
who threw being social, have cultivate probably quite a strong LGBTQ following, and
so it is going to like maybe in part of that, and it does
hurt to sort of see. And then the disc is because we know,
oh, how do architects make it right? At this point, you know,
an apology is not going to be accepted. They're like kicking out the
bands system. Like it's only be accepted now because it's been left to sort
of fester. There was no kind of like I mean, for example,
the Ghost Inside, when they had their kind of instant with their basis and
his sort of past rational marks, they moved from the band. He went
on various sort of things to kind of like learn it and make an effect,
and then there's kind of been just excep back and then it was kind
of gone, okay, look like that, like there was just no they
didn't shy away from it. They took action to address the problem. And
again it's not like that I'm not on the place sale of that actual what
the right actually take, but at least you know, it was something.
Here just feels that architects that their approach has just been to ignore any kind
of any kind of criticism of it and not engage and at this point now
block anyone calling out. And you know, if they if they left it
at that half half asked on stage apology like, people wouldn't have been happy
but it. But now the fact that they're deliberately trying to like shut down
discussion and block accounts and not not take it any further, it does just
make it look like they don't care, and it makes me question the sort
of their integrity of what they were saying beforehand. Yeah, the bizarre stem
of that is I completely agree in terms of, like again with the week
that this story first really kind of broke, you know, my fucking heart
sank, because of course it would, but I was also I was waiting
for the response, you know. But the natural is particularly for us as
kind of you know, reporting on these kind of things and giving opinions on
them, I find it difficult to do that until a kind of you know,
I'm willing to give a band a chance to make right. Yeah,
exactly. I don't expect everyone to be everything to be perfect at all times.
I'm willing to give a band at the moment to see how they can
react and reflect on what's happened. And even if that is like again just
getting the person to like churage them to change their ways, I'm willing to
have that opportunity. And the worst fucking instances of these things are where they're
the reaction is just like not there because it just leaves the It's just a
bad smell hanging around. You know, it's it's it's it's a it's a
fucking door that's left horribly open. And again you you're talking about the integrity
of the members or whatever, like, you know, do I believe that.
Let's say, you know Sam Carter right who also you know, another
weird detail around this. I know it's not the same thing, but like
he's a man who has been presenting more effeminately in the last few years,
hasn't he Like he's been you know, wearing eyeliner on stage and stuff like
that and kind of you know, making moves to again sort of you know,
knock down certain walls and stuff that were there. So and I believe
that he does stand by that like in his own views, but he's not.
He does want to compromise the band kind of like standing in terms of
where they're at to stand up for that. Yeah. So it's like,
again, Sam Carter, do I believe in a area that Sam Carter,
for example, you know, has transfer phobic view or does not believe in
the kind of let's say, like anti bigotry whatever lyrics that you know,
he's he's sung in the past. Currently, I don't have the evidence really
to come out and say that, you know. And again I can sort
of I can imagine that they are viewing this sort of like social media cesspool,
right of these warring factions and everything, and maybe they do think,
oh, you know, an apology will only be rejected or whatever, and
they're just sort of trying to remove themselves from that and just function. You
know, They're still playing to fucking huge crowds of whatever. So it's not
having the largest knock on effect in terms of their popularity or anything right now.
Obviously, this song that's come out this week is a big event.
And everything. So I can see them just sort of removing themselves from the
social media sesspool. But unfortunately, by taking that non response route, it
letting it just sort of blow over, is not the right way to do
it, because, particularly now in the social media age, it doesn't fucking
blow doesn't. Yeah, And what you do by not responding to it is
you leave people no alternative but to assume the worst, which is that you
are covering up for your bigoted mate and you don't actually care as anything that
you've kind of put out there, because the success of your band now is
stronger than anything that you've said. And again, like, do I necessarily
believe that certain members and architects you know, aligne with some of these things
that we're talking about. No, but they have taken the most cowardly course
of action, which means that, as said, a lot of people have
to fucking assume the worst and it just makes again impossible to talk about their
band in a kind of level headed sort of manner in this way. And
so that is the state we're at in artets. Again, I don't like,
you know, you can make your own decisions on this, Yeah,
that's what I mean. That's why I've I've kind of just asserted that I've
removed myself from the kind of discourse at this point because it just it's not
something that I'm particularly bothered about being engaged with. I've said my piece on
it. I got a bunch of transfer your hate film like cool, I'll
just leave that there then. Yeah, And so I just you know,
with the kind of things, it's always for me, it's about, you
know, transparency of what we are doing kind of as commentators and reporters.
You know, like if we just stopped talking about a band, you should
know why, And if we do continue to talk about a band, you
should at least know that we are aware of the reasons why many of you
out there might be, you know, not want to engage with that band
yourself. And you can take your own route there. Again, So when
it comes to looking over the rest of this year, if we get an
Architects album, obviously we're going to have, you know, Architects a headline
Bloodstarck and all this kind of stuff is going on. I don't know to
what degree we are going to comment on those things. I don't know,
if you know, we will kind of just call it there and not carry
on. I don't I don't know, but we reach the stage basically with
the release of this where we're like, Okay, if we're going to talk
about archtects, we have to fucking state the obvious, which is that we
don't feel good about, you know, the kind of the way their band
has behaved in the last several months. And so that is the current state
of you know, our architects for us, and I guess you can as
make your own decision there, let us know what you think whatever, But
that is architects, Sam. The next part of the news I just need
to throw to you basically because I have I'm not really aware of what exactly
in particular has been going on, but all I know is that, you
know, let live lifers are beginning to let some kind of weird hope into
their hearts that maybe they actually might what's going what a let live teasing?
What's going on? I mean, the other day the let live instagram posts
Instagram account posted for the first time since twenty sixteen. It was like an
image that to me was just kind of alluding to like the anniversary of the
Blacks Beautiful even that's now like eleven years of it, like, but they
did eleven could they ever do that fucking like remix thing? Whatever they said?
Jason did tweet he said he would never actually change anything about like the
art he's put out. It sounds that way for a reason. Quere is
he? But this is then there's been now Like whenever saw Themagone was like,
oh no, you know, eleven years of that album call maybe we'll
get every issue of it. And then they posted another image and I was
like, hang on a second, they're posting more than one. And then
every day now they're sharing stuff on their Instagram store and it's just like fan
tattoos, fat like videos of them playing live, and it's just and again,
like, no one wants to fully commit to the idea that Let Live
could be back, because it's a fool's hope. It feels like, but
bit by bit, I think all of us are slightly going but what if
we were here with box, won't we I'm telling myself that it is just
going to be reissues. Who knows if Let Live are coming back. I
want Let Live back. I don't want Jason Butler playing let Lift songs with
other people because I do think there was a magic today that was those members
playing together and the ideas they brought. Like Jason Bollot was obviously the lightning
sort of like explosion at the front of it, but Let Live were more
than him. As again, I really like Fever three three three much posted
a lot of other people would see. Then again, they're really popular,
so maybe maybe it's just you know, the sort of the podcast and that's
sort there. But if you do offer something different to let Live that isn't
that doesn't hold a candle to let Live still because they're one of my favorite
bands ever. It's just yet, it's there is something happening like they like
whatever there's been, you know, or of a let live anniversaries. Jason
Butler's done it on his own accounts, not on the letlive account. So
this is this is why, this is where people are starting to sort of
let themselves get caught up in the moment and maybe we're all idiots and it
is just going to be our hopes getting dashed. But I want to cling
on to something in these dark times. Literally, Yeah, So I mean,
yeah, there there you go. We don't have any information right now,
we can't say anything or speculate anything, but you know, we are
aware that let Live are doing something or other. A couple of new songs.
We first one is we have Sonya, who have announced this week that
they have been signed to Century Media and to you know, announce that they
put that out with a single called Discretion for the generous Sonia, I have
name dropped a couple times on the podcast up to this point. They released
an album in twenty twenty two called loud arriv which is like one of the
albums I most regret not getting onto the show to review it. I regret
you're not getting it onto the show. Yeah, I got into that later
down the line. It's really good. Yeah, the timing of it just
like again, it didn't quite land at the right moment in terms of like
when I heard it and that kind of shit. But it's fucking brilliant and
they are like one of the best bands I think to emerge from kind of
the heavy underground in like the last like two or three years and again' name
dropped a couple times. Is like a really cool upcoming band. For me,
this moment of them signing Central Media was almost one of those like inevitable
one of the larger metal labels is gonna something cool. Yeah, it's gonna
pick up this cool band at some point. And again, like their their
first record, loud Arriver, I'm glad that you've like heard it because it's
one that I was definitely going to like try and fung or towards you at
some point because both in sound and in kind you name dropped on the podcast
at one point and I was I need to get around to that, and
I did, and I was like, yeah, that's really cool. Yeah,
it's got an incredible story and a kind of narrative that flows through.
It's a really fun she seems really really cool person, and that what she
kind of came up against and how she how she responded to it. I'm
like, how fucking yeah. Yeah, And that record, louder Ivor is
like a wonderful It's just a testament to that kind of you know, like
plant in that kind of flag and it's fucking excellent. And so I was
always gonna be interested in kind of you know where the next Sonny thing we're
gonna be coming From the fact that it's now on a larger label, it's
like, oh fuck yeah, Like more eyes are going to be on this
and so a new track. We've got a new song, which again is
called Discretion for the Generous. It is a it's a bit more of a
sort of like slightly more mid paced, kind of quieter track. It's got
like some you know, more delicate guitars and vocal mostff like that, which
it was again, it was was cool. I think again if you if
you hear this and you quite like it and you want to hear them like
fully firing, like go and listen to their song Nylon Nights from the first
album is fucking sensation when it will wallop you straight away. But for a
uh again, so I thought I was kind of interesting that again for the
big like bigger label, more people are, this is gonna be first because
a lot people's first exposure to us. What do we do? They chose
a sort of quieter track, but it's excellent. I think this is so
good. I mean like those like guitar melodies that kind of like luscious gothic
kind of texture to it. But when it gets the power, it does
kind of punch through. I'm like, this is really good again yeah,
because it's like five minute song. It's not like an immediate sort of in
your face leading where it does take a good while to to build to the
sort of bigger moments, but when they punch through, they are like,
I'm like, oh, this is what heavy Mail is actually just really fucking
cool and just sounds awesome. And again, I just like the kind of
gothic moodiness to it that they've got going on as well. Yeah. Absolutely,
if you're a fan of bands like Unto Others and stuff like that,
it's one of the most hell yeah absolutely, you know kind of parallels to
that. And yeah, so I'm just I'm very happy for them that they're
you know, stepping up something a little bit larger. They're touring. They're
not coming to the UK, which I'm really annoyed about, but they are
in Europe. They're doing like road burn and stuff around that this upcoming month,
and I presume this means we will have some kind of song your you
know, Central Media released album probably later down the line this year, yeah,
which we will absolutely be talking about. That's now one of the more
anticipated ones of this year for me and the Dirty Nil have covered total clips
of the heart. It feels like every fucking week the last is this is
just all from that like deluxe edition they've the deluxe edition is now out.
They put that the whole like deluxetition is on Spotify now. Of the free
Range to Passion, it's got that song they released, it's got this cover
and then it's all like demos. Yeah, and I just applaud the audacity.
I suppose have been like, yeah, of course, you ridiculous bunch
of guys. One of your dream covers was totally Clips of the Heart and
actually feels like yeah, almost aways a closed book on this sort of dirty
nil era of like yeah, sure, end it doing that? Yeah,
I mean I was a bit like they've really done like the first verse in
chorus, they've like a little short and punk version of it. I was
like, do the whole thing. You're cowards to the heartest amazing song that
they they they fully commit to. The bombast of that chorus is big.
Yes. And also we just received word as well that you know, as
we are recording this the night before Friday, as it goes out, there
will be a Thursday song released, which is the first Thursday song in many,
many years. They have been a band who you know, I know
some Thursday fans who have kind of lamented them being in that kind of stage
of like only doing the nostalgia and not functioning properly as a kind of creative
outlet. So the fact that Thursday have new music is quite a notable thing
and we will absolutely, you know, obviously we will have that to talk
about next week. Orange Goblin have announced their new album, fairly long awaited
for them. It's called Not Rocket Science and that's going to be out over
the summer as well. I've been listening to what that will sound like.
Yeah, exactly, But I think they are one of the great sort of
national treasure. Oh yeah, no, of course, like bands that we
have lively brilliant. Yes, I've heard from them. Really fucking shitty news.
There was you may have seen fighting around social media in the past couple
of days. Neza Blog Records, which is in Norway, previously known as
Helvette, is the most famous kind of black metal site. I suppose it's
where it has the basement with the black metal side and everything that everyone who
you know visiting Norway goes and takes their photoword and stuff. But you know,
it is a functioning record store to this day. They had a huge
fucking fire that devastated the store. It looks like that the fire was occurred
in the basement, and they've shown like you know, photos and stuff of
kind of the the ground level bit where you enter, and it looks like
everything's fine. But I don't Again, I don't know exactly what was contained
in the basement versus the top. Certainly that's a place where a lot of
kind of like you know, almost like black metal history archive stuff with whether
it be you know, items, memorabilia, whatever, was contained. So
again I don't know exactly what was down below, what was up top,
whatever. But there's a couple of photos of like again where the fire happened
downstairs, and like a shelf of like melted record Cause it genuinely it like
breaks my heart, Like I look at that. It sucks to say,
is yeah really unfortunate. Yeah, And obviously, you know, best of
luck to the shop and everything in terms of you know, getting back on
their feet, and they've got like you know, donations paid and stuff like
that. But just like looking at a shelf of again melted never to be
fucking recovered artifacts and memorabilia and stuff, it just absolutely shatters me. So
really fucking terrible us there, and again good luck to everyone evolved there in
terms of, you know, recovering what can be done there. Rise Against
have announced a few shows that are going to be going around the UK and
Europe. They're doing shows here in August. Theorizing there about whether that means
they're part of you know, the festival market or whatever, but they are
going to be playing shows in August. Speaking of another band who have turned
up in every fucking new show, Dream Fitter. The first one I did
was just basically to tease Sam, but they have genuinely just constantly been announcing
things. They've announced that they're huge, like fortieth anniversary tour, which is
also the first tours and the return of Mike Portnoy to the band, and
they are playing the O two Arena in the UK that they haven't been in
the last few years. It's certainly an upgrade. Is this is this the
power of Mike Portnoy being back in dream Feit that they can suddenly play the
O two Arena. I don't know. Again, I'd be very curiously how
this one sells, you know, but they are they are gunning for the
two arena. Wardrouner has also announced a really sizable UK tour. They've got
a new single from a new album that is gonna be coming out but early
next year. Actually had doing a huge fucking you know world tour UK stopped
as well. They're doing places like is it the Royal Abbert Hall? Yeah,
and you know they're playing similar theaters like you know, the one near
me and Liverpool and stuff of those sort of levels. So that's a big
old event going on. And Marty Friedman x Meganeth guitarist Serial Officionado is back
on it again. Where one of my favorite stories the last couple years was
Marty Freedman going on a fucking incensed, raging Facebook rant about Captain Crunch watering
down their recipe and no longer being what it once was. Turns out,
because he lives in Japan, has done for several years, he has now
received a huge shipment of all the American cereals that he loves, and he
went online to post his numbered rating and reviews for every single American cereal compared
to what he remembers. You can go and find that I do not have
time to read this whole thing. Believe I'm had a little Loup for it
now and it's like the man is thorough, but I just love that.
That's a weird part of his personality that has been about the blossom in the
last years. The guy you did that so loo on Tornado usuls constantly ranting
about Cereal. Cereal enthusiasts on Facebook, so there you go. Questions back
again on this hyperblasts as usual. They tend to come from it. That's
not focused group on Facebook. So if you want to ask a question you
should go over there and deposit your questions there. If you don't have Facebook,
you can fire them to us by you know, some social channel means
that you do have. But the ones we have today are kicked off by
Tom Felex Howcroft, who says a few weeks ago a link got shared for
free tickets to see Pendulum at Leeds Arena. I didn't think it would work,
but it was through Ticketmaster and it actually did and a great night was
had by all. This least my question, what are the best deal or
ticket lits you found? Before? What was going on with they were giving
away free tickets to a fucking It seemed to only be that lead stake,
So they are they doing just free Pendiam tickets in general, and I was
like, no, the London No Two dates sold really well, so I
was like, oh, okay, well see you. Then it is it
a we literally have to give these tickets away deal, I don't I My
answer to this is I can only speak to ones that i've sort of witness
happening, ones rather than ones I have personally kind of take. You know,
the famous British summer time was yeah, which is relevant to me because
I was there, but I had bought my tickets months before, right,
so you were you wanted to see Black Sabbath sound Guards exactly. So I
was at that famous fucking like five pound ticket day whatever it was, except
I'd paid sixty on quid. And that's the closet the bost adjacent that I
have ever been to something like. I've had it once, which was when
I got cheap Airosmith tickets. After they did they were they were doing they
did download twenty four and then they were doing was it hard Rock Calling or
whatever? One of those really crap day festival sort of things where I didn't
care about a single of a band on the line up really apart from Aerosmith.
But they they put things saying like, oh, if you went to
download his cheap tickets to Aerosmith, and so I was like, my sister,
you want to go see aeros how much? How cheap are we talking?
Roughly? I think it was about thirty quid. That is pretty fucking
cheap for her, like for areas, but they were like, I think
it was like halfway tickets when they were like seventy eighty quid tickets and they
were down to like thirty pounds. And I know that's not free pendulum tickets,
but Aerosmith, if you offered me fucking Aerosmiths straight for thirty quid.
And this was like twenty fourteen where they were on like really good live form.
So I was like, I saw twice that summer because of like getting
fairly cheap tickets and that was good fun. Yeah. And I but there
was the famous was it All Points East where they bring the Horizon one?
Yeah, where they had to give away everyone had to give away tickets to
that. Yeah. Similar. And I suppose with stuff like that and this
pendulum on and stuff, you're you're you're curious about why you know what is
going on, which means that I mean, I think there was no secret
about the All Points East one why they went that. Yeah, And I
think obviously right now something's going on as we speak is the Friday Hip Hop
Day of Outbreak seems to be having some kind of trouble where you know,
we've spoke before about when that was announced they had the Friday, you know,
hip Hop Day Outbreak, but rather than it was last year where it
was still the weekend ticket you have. You cannot buy a full weekend ticket
Outbreak. You have to buy the ticket the events separately. And because it
is primarily a hardcore festival, it looks like no one has fucking bought tickets
specifically for the hip Hop Friday Day. And now they are, you know,
the day tickets. Maybe it's like eighty quid or something like that,
and it was eighty five good down to thirty five, like fifty quid off
of yeah, and so you're looking at that going holy shit, you know,
your gamble of ticketing the day separately is not fucking paying. I mean,
he's worked wonders for their like for the two hardcore days that I mean,
they're like, oh sure, basically like sold out. But yeah,
I feared when we saw that, I was like, I don't know if
that's a good idea. I don't understand. I had a similar thought.
Yeah, and it just again it makes the process more difficult than you have
to having to buy you two different tickets rather than just one blanket thing.
But yeah, stuff like that where you go like, what is going wrong
to have you know made this happen? Which again the Pendulum one date of
their tour. I don't know why I would be interested to know what exactly
was going on there. The funny thing about the obviously the incident that I
was at least adjacent to the British summertime one, is that that wasn't the
case. That's genuine. That was like a glitch, wasn't it. I
had so I had tickets to not the Sabbath day that was? Was that
twenty fifteen? Was it? No? It was twenty fourteen. I think
it was the same year as or maybe the year before the Taylor Swift one
that I do you know, No, I didn't have tickets to that one.
I think it's seem busted at that one from busting them Backstreet Boys and
then again they were we got them at full price because we wouldn't even busting
them back step boys. Yeah, but the blacks happ thing. If I
met again, this is ten years ago and I have paid full price,
So if you give if I'm not remembering entirely correctly, but I think there
was something wrong where like on was a glitch on the site, yeah,
that the tickets had just gone down to like five quid and then loads of
people bought them, and the festival just kind of honored it and went like,
yeah, yeah, yeah, you bought them. Our system fucked.
They shut it down pretty quickly anyone who got in, and I think are
quite fair. A few people did get through to it. They they did,
They did honor those tickets, and I'm like, yeah, the great
fucking Black Sabo scandal of twenty fourteen. Ben Wilmot asks do you ever get
grief from listeners or bands for sticking the boot in if you think something is
disingenuous or playing crap? There's always someone somewhere who loves to say my grandma
taught me if you haven't got anything nice to say, et cetera. Yeah,
two prongs to that question listeners and banned the listener's point. We you
know, we have had the odd review. There was a prominent one last
year where you know, things have kind of gone south in terms of I
don't know, conversation around it in general. Like this is a question I'm
constantly answering on the on the Facebook group, like if you go. And
I tried to be active and kind of responding to people when they have a
comment about the podcast and you know, put on it. Most people do
it say it in a very, you know, a pleasant, constructive kind
of manner. Some people are like, hey, you know, I only
like the positive reviews. I'm only interested in hearing what you guys, you
know, want to promote and want to kind of get to more people.
So I think that that's what your energy is best spent on. And I
respect that, and I try to again reply a lot, and I basically
say something on the lines of that's fair enough. Just fucking listen to the
positive ones. Then, like if you hear us, you know, being
negative or something, you can tune out. Because we set the stall out
quite early on in our reviews, isn't it. It's never really a sort
of a light plot to it. Yeah, and I think it is important
to continue having I would say that a ninety percent of reviews that we do
are quite positive because again, the way we pool albums, the way we
have to select what albums we actually want to talk about. Normally that does
mean we'll funnel out the crap and we'll talk about the things that we are
keen on. The things that we do leave in that we are negative on
tend to be of some significant or you know, public interest or yeah,
or just the interest to talk about it or whatever. And I do think
even if it is so while the ratio is that I would say, pretty
skewed from you know, negative towards positive, the negative that we do have
in there, I think is still important in terms of you can't be that
place that just blanket gives everything a positive review, because otherwise that you need
context, you know, you need the bad to kind of give weight when
we say, hey, this is really fucking good. You know, we
haven't just said that about literally everything. So the listener's comment again, like
largely people are very positive about it. If you happen to be someone who
just prefers, you know, the positive, then I would like to say
that we've kind of given a good reason as to why we do still continue
to, you know, give things at kicking when we think it's deserved.
The band point is a little more nuanced and interesting. I suppose you use
the word disingenuous here in the question, which is something that I try not
to accuse bands of very often. I think because like most records that are
shit right, bands have made thinking I've tried thinking they are good right,
and uh, you know, I obviously I grew up getting its bands at
Metallica and stuff. And you see those people who are like fucking load Reload
Metallica will fucking they you know, don't think those albums are good. They
have just done that purely for money. And you know, the thing that
would always stick in my care is like, you know, fucking Cliff Burton
wouldn't have let load or reload, you know, happen as if he wasn't
one of the more musically adventurous guys in that band. And my aim is
to basically not turn into one of those guys. You know, like,
even when I record is bad, I I try to avoid accusing bands of
being genuinely, you know, shameless in what they are kind of doing,
unless I think it is genuinely kind of clear and and and deserved. I
think that's a Generally it's overused people saying like, oh, questioning integrity,
and I think in that case, bands have more of a right to be
upset with you if in a review you make it personal and you question their
integrity rather than simply criticizing the product. Right where, I think they're a
bit of a less of a less leg to stand on if you haven't turned
in some kind of attack on again their intentions and integrity. So I try
not to turn it into that unless I feel it is clear. Generally we
do not have a lot of kick butack again, mostly we review things positively,
so most bands who hear the reviews we are out of them are fairly
pleased about them, just like hey, thanks for the support. Interdents where
bands are pushed back haven't really been explicit ones. It's more been just sort
of like, uh, you know, almost things that you could sort of
assume are maybe in some way linked to something you've said. Yeah, I
mean, I can't think of millions as were like particular on this where bands
really pushed back or or like some of them you know, might like comment
onto it all like that, but like for me, mostly these like I'd
normally see more from listeners side than bands, but maybe that's just me not
paying attention to mean for me, I like I would rather just be honest
about an album if it's good or bad. Like, like, I understand
people don't want hear negative stuff, but if we were going to pretend everything's
good, then you like, we're not being we're being disingenuous. We have
to be our genuine selves with what we're saying, and that means we just
scree on things or we all kind of like unite on giving a band a
bit of a kicking. We we we're just saying like being genuine and it's
like, and again I do agree, there's far more positive reviews out there
than there are negative ones. And like last week, I mean we were
like I was one of the most negative views I've done, and I got
nothing out of that really because I didn't want to be negative on that particular
band. Yeah, And I think it's a tough balance, Like what I
was saying in terms of like my natural assumption is that most bands don't hear
the reviews we put out with them. I think that they are more Yeah,
and I will say that they're probably more likely to if they are a
smaller band, right, because they've got less promotional whatever, They've got less
busy schedules in terms of flying out to wherever. So you know, if
some smaller band hears our review of them, I'm not too surprised. But
if the real big, fucking arena filling bands, I I just sort of
assume that most of those guys don't hear what we have to say about it
to any reviews. Yeah, exactly. And so they're having a couple of
instances where again, some slightly larger bands or whatever have you know, it's
said things online or whatever where I go. My assumption is that probably isn't
about us, but it could maybe could potentially fit. Yeah, if the
shoe fits, it could have applied. So again, a couple of examples
of bands where like I remember Berry Tomorrow, dann even Berry Tomorrow tweeted something
last year when I was quite negative about and Mean and Llio were quite negive
about their album, And I have no fucking idea if he was talking about
us or not. He probably has no idea who we are, but he
tweeted something where I was like, that's vague enough that it could almost fit
what we had said. And then you could say the same about again the
Whilst She sleeps comment which member it was, but one of the members was
talking about kind of like digital fucking beatdowns or whatever, yeah on the record,
and that maybe that wasn't us, Maybe I had nothing to do with
us, But you see that and go like, we could potentially be part
of that. The only one that I like know for a fact turned out
quite positive. That's what I was thinking of is there was sort of Soul,
which is the band that like both me and you are really you know,
enjoy and respect a lot. But that that's that was an incident where
it was one comment in the review which kind of just because well, again
that was quite a positive review, that one, but there was obviously there
was one remark that stuck out. Yeah, and with again the story with
that one was basically that there was a review there which again a member of
the band in question tweeted about kind of experience sing basically like hit hearing a
review that kind of bummed him out a little bit. I thought that might
be us reached out and then he ended up coming on the show and we
had a and we smooth it all over and had a long time, so
I chated him on the regular. I really like and again like he I
think he was of those things that I can understand why in that moment that
would have hit him a bit like sorely. And but again I just said,
we smoothed it out and it's all good. Yeah, and the other
it's like again going off Tangent but not a band, but not a bad
but quite humorous is just this past week there was a very humorous, generally
lighthearted back and forth between ourselves and James from two thousand Trees and Arch Tangent,
who book those festivals where that he has started up the podcast with Gavin
from Damnation where they talk about, you know, the ins and outs of
festival promoting and it's a really fucking good podcast. I recommend you go listen
to it if you're interested in the logistics of what you know, those guys
putting on those really great beloved you know UK heavy rock events are up to.
But I was listening and out of the blue, James just drops that
his favorite podcast the only way who listens to is us, but it makes
him very sad that we always fallen over Dow Nation Festival talking about how amazing
their lineups are, and when two thousand Trees book anything, we stop to
point and laugh at Union six. And I feel that my character has been
assassinated here, Like I wanted you to know that I am a I am
a six s, I'm a Union six fanch. Like it's just they're a
fun Yeah. And again I heard that comment and I could tell from again
the way he said it that it was entirely it was good heart. Yeah,
it was at entirely in good faith, and obviously was I was.
I felt the need to basically reach out and be like, hey, you
know, a thank you for like, you know, picking up our podcast
in any capacity. It's nice that you listen, but also like you know,
just be like, you know, cheers for being a good sport,
and you know, we just have maximum respect for those festivals, which we
fucking do. Like I've been to two thousd Trees. I love it.
At some point when it works out, I'd love to be out tangent as
well. But and again, like the day we're recording this, you know,
he replied, he was like yeah, all good. H They put
up another episode where they just had a little bit housekeeping. At the start,
they were talking about their little back and forth air and again that's not
a negative comment at all, but it was just a funny, weird little
like back and forth of like you know, just you know, how you
perceive those kind of things and stuff like that. So, yeah, generally
we don't have a big problem. It's more that, ever so occasionally there
will be one sort of flare up that we then do our best to kind
of you know, deal with and wanting to be taken personally essentially. Yeah,
absolutely, we always talk about music first and foremost. And unfortunately,
when you are talking about art, naturally, the people who have made that
art or have a large piece of investment into that art have kind of assigned,
you know, their own something of themselves in that. That makes it
difficult to talk about. But that's just the territory you go into when you're
talking again critiquing art. And mister Alex Chillingworth says, whenever I need cheering
up nowadays, I watched the Las von Trier I understand Hitler video. It
put of course you do it put things into perspective. It makes me realize
my life is fine. Do you have a go to incident for a band
or artist who shit the bed like this, as in they're not even trying
to be outwardly hostile or offensive, but just bumbling it so horrendously that they
accidentally ruined their reputational career. So we're not looking for like canceled bands here,
right or again things like we had to talk about earlier, where they're
genuinely we have to properly fucking take something to task more just like what people
put in their foot in their mouth, you know, I suppose like the
one for me that almost like toes those lines and people some people do put
a lot more stock into it. Is One of those people is who comes
to mind is Nurgle, where he had that series of like Prince Charles esque
fucking faux pas of like yeah, you know again, some people really interpreted
what he said as on various cases of being you know, hateful or whatever.
I didn't never read it as like you Knownurgle as a terrible racist or
a rape apologist or all these things that people kind of made him out to
be. But I looked at them, went, oh, no, why
have you said that? And you know, there is a sort of an
enduring thing around that, but sillier ones like this. I came up with
more than I thought I would for a start, everything in some kind of
monster, I suppose, fucking everything that Lars or Rick says with his art
or whatever. You could say, everything in the back end of Nails.
His career, as we discussed in our special was kind of a weird career
ruiner, at least for that chapter of them that the Royal Blood stage meltdown
last year, maybe you could say. And it was interesting because I guess,
you know, people used to say mental shit in like the eighties and
nineties, and now more often it'll be caught out and kind of escalate into
something else a little bit more serious. So where did you go? I
mean, my head was when I was like, just start the party count.
Also, the record like the old Dumpson book Josh Franceski buying his own
album from H and V A fifty Pounds No, is the one that sticks
my memory of like how fucking does out of Touch no? Self aware?
Like it is a hilarious incident, but it is. It is like just
like, oh, you're silly, silly man. Yeah, I mean the
once again Nurgle was a very fun that came to mind, but that is
more on that kind of boundary of like genuinely sort of serious stuff. The
one that I went over and went this fully applies, and I think it's
the best example I can think of, and it's reason that I've not mentioned
yet, but more reason than that is just hilarious, which is exactly and
especially when you say, you know the last one, Trier, I understand
Hitler thing, the Dave Ellison, Now I know how Jesus memory of like,
now I know how? And is that when you've been all yeah,
it's got to the point where I saw a tweet maybe about a week ago
of someone saying that, like someone said they like understood how Joan of Arc
felt or something, and I naturally assumed my brain went to they must be
talking about Daison. I don't think they were, but that's is now he's
that guy. And again in terms of just like we're not canceling dade elisoid.
It was a fucking weird, silly thing that happened, but in terms
of like that is now his reputation right a the imaging question, but also
then the quotes that have followed it, like quotes that followed fucking unbelievable,
a couple of other like you know, not fully cancellable, I guess,
but kind of like questionably daft Ones. I suppose a big one would be
Upon a Burning Body. Well, what did that counts? Because again that's
one of them was like such a weird like that feel was almost quite quaint
by modern statues their career, like it really did like they never recovered from
the fucking faked kidnapping incident and the album actually was quite good, the album
that that was all in part of, and it was just like you really
just messed up badly there, lads. Yeah, I think the underground equivalent
is ghost Bars still gets stick for pretending they were Chinese and they came out
yeah. Yeah. It was like when they very first founded their band and
they were like selling like their first EP on band camp or whatever. They
had like their location listed as China, and it was they were all anonymous,
and it was like, oh, who are this you know, anonymous
Chinese black metal bands just to sort of drum up a bit of you know,
attention, And then when it came out that they were actually from fucking
like Portland wherever they're from there are still people now more than the decade on
who are like won't take Ghost Bar seriously or give them any time because they
pretended to be Chinese when they were starting out. And does Steph Carpenter count
for this probably does. Yeah, Like there's a bunch of like silly hardcore
ones as well that again comment just random like hardcore bands where they just get
caught up in a discourse that is so stupid and just gonna go like being
in a band is a silly thing sometimes, like the washing out Furries one
is always the one that what band that was? But then when they had
the entire furry Twitter like rallying against them and basically getting them to pay for
this Furries medical bills who got more stout on this show? Hey, they've
got fucking insane possely on their side. You don't want to mess with them.
Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to get Elliott's ideas on this as well,
and he said he's got some good ones. So I'll ask Elliott this
again when he's on the show again. So there you go. That's questions.
Thank you very much for those Patreon. This week, we have something
that we've just put out and I guess something that's gonna be coming up very
shortly as well. Out yesterday, as you are hearing this so available to
you right now, we had t DOES Horror return for the first time in
several months. We explain in the little sort of little round up at the
start why it's been a few months, because the horror slate of you know,
DOES Horror for the beginning of this year was fucking dreadful, But we
went over that. What we do have to talk about is we did the
Nuns in Double Trouble feature that again, if you like, I'm sure you'll
be aware of these movies and you'll feed them in you know, advertising or
whatever. But if you don't actively follow a lot of horror discussion or whatever,
everyone over there is currently just completely in none mode because the x extremely
strange bizarre coincidence of two movies Immaculate and the first Omen coming out essentially the
same time. They're still both in cinemas, featuring so much of the same
like at times literal plot points, but also you know, just like the
themes and the content, and they're extremely similar movies in a lot of ways.
Everyone's just been naturally just kind of going mad over those two movies and
kind of you know, comparing what's going on with them. So obviously that's
naturally, very very made for a podcast like ours, and we did exactly
that thing, talking about certainly the two movies that have like properly made horror
good this year. Yeah, like you know, after a really, yeah,
a very poor start of the year, we like these two coming out
has been like we were like, ah, here we go and has been
a really was a really interesting discussion to kind of like because again, on
the surface level, really really similar movies, but it was just kind of
like dig into what actually differentiates them. Yeah, which is the other kind
of point, because they are extremely similar in a lot of ways. But
all so I think the discussion around them can be more nuanced than you sometimes
see from just like little you know, tweets of people nailing their colors to
one master or another, because they do differ in a lot of way.
So we had our podcast just fully diving into every detail of those where one
film excels where another film exxels, and it felt very naturally made for us
and so made for I think a really interesting and enjoyable podcast to do.
And also there is secretly a third movie that is also out in the cinemas
that is actually secretly a part of the triumvirate of Immaculate and the first Omen
and it probably is a movie that you are aware of and has probably seen.
So if you want to know what one that is and where that chimes,
go and listen to the Tinne's Horror that is available for patrons. And
then coming up our next musical special is I suppose, just to explain the
schedule a little bit, reviews this month are weird in terms of how a
how many there are, but also the kind of backloading of them. So
the review show is going to be out not next week on the nineteenth,
but the following week, the final Friday. There's a lot coming out next
Friday, isn't there. Everything of like real significance that is jostling for a
place is out those final two weeks. So basically the last Friday of April,
I'm gonna have the review show. But this upcoming month, upcoming week.
Sorry, Instead of having an album club pack this month, we are
going to actually increase the amount of abs you are getting because we are bringing
back the album Swap, which if you are a long time listener about you
know, two or three years ago, you may remember myself, Sam and
Alex Chillingworth we did a little swap where each of us picked an album for
each you know individual other host. We all traded albums that we thought they
hadn't heard that also they might get something out of and enjoy. And it
was really fucking good, Like I became a Lepros fan because of it exactly.
Alex made you listen to Danko Jones rocking. Yeah, you picked for
me like a crying emotional hardcore album that I quite enjoyed. It was a
you know, a nice little swapsy of again like niche cool stuff because the
aim is to get something that maybe hasn't been discussed, and so myself,
Sam and Elliott are all going to be bringing that format back and doing one
of those and giving each other, you know, cool things. Let me
tell you again, we're we're still working out exactly what's going to be picked,
but we know that there is going to be like oil punk in the
mix. There is gonna be quite a lot of that. Actually, what
else has we got kind of confirmed sort of probably some kind of core yeah,
you know, beloved UK bands, probably some you know, some strange
proggy stuff, eclectic mix of bunch. I think the particular format makes for
quite eclectic stuff. So that is going to be coming next week and then
as said, the reviews to follow, So jeers everybody who is you know
on board at the Patreon. That is what keeps us going, that is
what is you know feeding you this particular month. And so we're going to
close up with the releases for April the twelfth of twenty twenty four. The
biggest one, I guess is that Blue Oyster Cult have an album which is
a bizarre kind of it's they've said it's to be their final album, but
it's also of like really old songs that they've dug up. So I don't
quite know exactly what's going on with it, but I fucking love blos Cars.
Check at what they've got going on, moving into more traditional T and
M fair this is an interesting one. Again. I've got to see if
we've got room to talk about it or not because it's so busy, but
it's kind of interesting. There's a band who are drumming up a fair bit
of hype in the kind of metal undergound a moment called Castle Rat, which
is a great fucking name. They have like a whole fucking thing going on
with like their album cover is amazing, the kind of front woman like get
up. They have like a some whole mythology going on, but it is
like really good pr shot. Yeah, and they sound like they look right
like it's that kind of like retro trad doom type stuff. But that's I
suppose probably one of the metal records that's gonna be more spoken about this week.
That record is called Into the realm Pharaohese Folk Metal Store Wat. To
this point, tier they've got their record Battle Ballad. It's a really fucking
big week actually for that kind of like trad heavy metal and that sort of
world. Because we have those things. We have Riot or Riot v as
they are currently known with their recorded mean Streets. We have Vulture with Sentinels,
which I recommend listening to. They are a very good again sort of
contemporary like speed metal proper as fucking denim and leather trad, you know,
rocking shit there records called Sentinels slightly more on the maybe sort of retro we
dooom end or whatever. We got Heavy Temple with Garden of Heathens. And
there is a band called Tarot with their record Glimpse of the Dawn, not
heavy metal Aaron West and the Roaring Twenties in lieu of flowers, Sam,
you're a Wonder Years fan? Are you're also an Aaron West? Fucking know?
That's making a speach of Aaron Western the Roaring Twenties. There we go.
Yeah, I am. I don't like it as much of the Wonder
Years, but you know it's nice hearing supeb soupe like. It's not got
as much like punch as the one Years have, so it's it's it's only
more of like, I'm in a bit more of a chill vibe. I've
sticking Aaron West album, but I'm excited to hear what Supers got in store.
There you go, and then you also have some again more in the
kind of scream oy Lane. There is a band called Heavenly Blue with their
record We Have the Answer, The Return of the band Whores, who I
didn't realize had been kind of out of action so long, but they had
a record like twenty sixteen or something that was quite well liked, and this
is the follow up to that. It's called War and then moving into again
sort of like sludgy post metally doomed type stuff Love Sex Machine True Out on
Pelagic Records, and then a pretty decent day for death metal. We've got
the very excellent, you know, old school trad death metal band Neckrot with
their third album, Lifeless Birth. We have more sort of you know,
kind of a modern death grind type stuff from Benighted with eck Bomb Proggy,
you know, elements with from Exist with hijacking the zeitgeist, more kind of
like dirty Underground, you know, nasty, scary, kind of technical death
metal, replicant infinite mortality, more in sort of the war metal type area.
Here. I don't know how to say this band here, a c
arch something along those lines. I've never said that word out loud before.
But then Edifice and there's an ep out from a north Lane called Mirror's Edge
if you want something a bit more kind of shiny and mirror in that regard.
So there you go. Those are your records. Thank you very much
for listening. Let us know what you think in terms of again the kind
of the issues we discussed earlier, some of the more serious stuff or whatever,
Like what do you reckon moving forward. As said, next week we
will have a normal hype last another one, but we'll also have that battles
swap type special that I just laid out there. We'll have all of the
albums that are involved with that you know available to you as well, and
then following that we will have our review shows. So cheers very much,
we will see you again. Bye bye,