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Hello, everybody. Welcome, So
that's not Mettal, your weekly rock and

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heavy metal podcast, and welcome to
another edition of hyper Blast. We are

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on a roll right now with these. This is our weekly rock and heavy

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metal new show where we let you
know everything that is going on. We

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let you know the releases that are
out. We fix you up with every

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detail that you need to be aware
of, and we can give give opinions

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on them. My name is Brian
heirsh Sam Dignam is here. It's just

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the two of us today. We
are ready to attack all this. Yeah,

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yeah, no, nothing's really changed
since I saw you last night on

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There we are. We recall did
something yesterday which I will detail a little

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bit later for patrons, but yeah, Hyperblast, let's do it. I

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was at a little show this week. I went to see Mirka with Jonathan

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Holton, which is a Mika.
I go sort of like on and off

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in terms of like how intero myka
I am. And it's not like she's

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one of those I get that that
with as well. Yeah, I don't

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know, it's funny and you know, sometimes I might not have gone along,

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but you know, I was like, it's been several years since I've

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seen her now and had Jonathan Holton's
sporting as well, and I thought,

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I'm you know, I should go
out and see the boat two those together.

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Jonathan Holton, former guitarist Tribulation who
left a few years ago and now

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does this like acoustic folk type project, so very suited to support something like

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Miaka. Hadn't seen him live before. I quite enjoyed, you know that

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the folky record he did, but
go and see him live. He was

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always the most like effeminate, flamboyant
one in Tribulation, And you'd imagine like

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a you know your version right of
a focus singer songwriter project is like Brian

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Fallon, right, yeah, this
and what did he's wearing. He looks

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like a cross between Fuckingnrgle when he's
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the woman in Black and one of
the Reverend Mothers from June, just like

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a full on I saw the picture
of that commitment to the bit and going

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all out in the costume and I'm
like, yeah, fair play, Like

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yeah, god go hard on that
For a one man with his guitar projects,

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it's quite intense. Here's like,
yeah, here's like an acoustic songs,

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you know, with the guitar,
nice, very well done. There's

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tracks where he kind of like it's
like every other song he kind of go

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between that and one where he's just
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harmony with like backing tracks and stuff
and just sort of like waving his arms

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around with maybe a little bit less
stimulating in terms of like the mixing and

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everything, but you know, a
decent showing and and Mirka again, you

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know, she's a funny one,
isn't she, Because like there were there

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were songs from like across the catalog
in the set list, but she didn't

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play any songs that required like the
black or screaming, So I wonder if

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she's maybe like phasing that out a
bit or something, because the new record

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is a bit like black metal's answer
to old pop or something like it is

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there's still the black metal elements in
there, but certainly not vocally, and

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it's all very sort of like quite
softened, you know, blissful sort of

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version. And it's my least favorite
record of hers. But there was that

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lead single like Humans song is great
and live that was like genuinely massive with

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like a bit more kind of like
punch and Power that's from what's on that

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record, which is you know,
the same for a few of those tracks.

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Again stripping out any of them,
like the properly extreme songs, it

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did mean that like a number of
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like weren't necessarily in the set list, But in terms of the performance and

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how like the band sounded, I
think it was easily the best Medica show

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that I've seen, because I saw
a couple earlier on that maybe didn't sound

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so good, and this felt like, oh, yeah, you're like a

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properly you know, established professional,
you know exactly what's going on kind of

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act now. And again there were
still songs in there that kind of like

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go hard on the black speets and
stuff like that, but just the vibe

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of it is a bit like like
I don't know if this even really is

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a black metal show anymore. It's
just kind of sort of strange and you

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know, a unique little pocket that
she does. It's like fully gone into

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the realms of being this kind of
black metal folk pop thing. And on

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the folk front she did she released
that album during COVID of like kind of

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Scandinavian folk music that, you know, I wasn't expecting much from it in

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the set, so I think there
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the set list from before this date, but I really love that album and

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I listened to it like a decent
amount. And there's a song on that

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record that I fucking love called House
Carpenter, And just for the first time

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on the tour, she brought out
Jonathan Hulton to play guitar and played that

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song, which like, if I'd
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for like, you know, that
date after not going, I would have

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been fucking livid so that that could
be made my night. And yeah,

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they very much enjoyed it. Talking
about news today, we are going to

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start with I guess something else that
both of us did this week is we

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independently we went along to see the
new film Monkey Man, just as as

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enjoyers of violent action cinema. I
suppose I thought the film was all right,

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you know, promising, but it's
one what I was like, Yeah,

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I was kind of for a lot
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it's pretty good, it's it's a
it's a vercial debut, but it just

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as we're gonna get onto does certain
things that were kind of maybe go ah,

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you know what, the problems don't
matter. This is just pushing like

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my buttons to make me just born
in love with this movie. Yeah that's

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fair enough. Again, I thought
it was like, you know, fine

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and a promising, you know,
interesting sort of piece of work, even

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if not everything is kind of ironed
out yet. But one thing that happens

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in that movie, and I guess, you know, we should make this

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almost a staple on the news when
it happens, because it is something gaining

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some kind of exposure. There's a
fight scene in that movie when suddenly a

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huge fucking just like gen memo,
yeah, just smacks in and I was

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like, oh shit, okay,
And then waiting around in the credits seeing

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that the songs come up, I
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bloody. Would of so I wondered
because I didn't stick up acided to dash

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off. I've been in I need
to go home, but I wanted when

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it happened, and I was like, is that bloody wood? I'm not

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familiar enough with bloody would kind of
like pinpoint, but I was like,

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you could tell it was like a
Jenny guitar with kind of like the sort

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of Indian influences kind of week into
it a little bit, so I was

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like, it would make sense if
it was. And then when I found

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out coming out, I was like, yes, it was Bloody I was

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like, yeah, of course,
makes complete sense. Because again, if

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you're not familiar with the film Monkey
Man, it's directed by Dead Petel and

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it's like a you know, an
Indian set again kind of violent action movie.

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But if you're going to drop a
big Indian metal band, then Bloody

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Wood is like the front and center
answer. And it's funny because I've not

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really been very keen on Bloody Would
and it's the kind of like, you

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know, I don't really like that
kind of gent very much, and mixing

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it with the new metal and stuff, it's not really my thing. And

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I saw them Bloodstock a couple of
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know, people are into it,
but it's not for me. And I

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went and coming out of the cinema, I went on you know, streaming,

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and I pulled up that song and
I listened to it again and I

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was like, fuck, in the
movie, I forgot the fact that there's

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like bad rapping and stuff in that
song and they keep just the you know,

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yeah, it's clear. I don't
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get that bit, the riff that
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of the like the Indian influence has
weaved into yeah, dramatically appropriate without the

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bits that maybe would like sound a
bit nasty. Yeah, so again put

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up the song off was like,
yeah, no, I still don't like

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this this song very much, all
this band, but in the context of

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the movie, it's a pretty fucking
sick moment. So a nice little bit

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of a you know, a public
moment there for bloody would that that was

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when there's other thing I don't want
to go into that the spoiler details of

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why that bit for me in particular
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fucking best. Yeah, Like,
there are there are things again that I

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would I would recommend going see the
movie. Isn't it like interesting, like

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ambitious, passionate debut film that has
that does have flaws, but this was

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like, oh yeah, cool metal
getting spoiled out along with other things I

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love. Let's just ignore the problems
and have a great time watching this part

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of the movie. Yeah. So
again, even with a band that I

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don't actually like very much. That's
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yeah, heavy metal story of the
week, I think a very you know,

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people will always talk about metal needle
drops in movies from like the early

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two thousands or whatever, and it's
nice to have a you know again,

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a huge internationally released movie that has
something similar in it. Next up,

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we are going to talk about something
that I was kind of um and erring

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about putting in for reasons that you
know, if you have been following the

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kind of online conversation in the last
few months, you will know exactly what

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I'm referring to. If not,
we hadn't kind of fully addressed it,

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which maybe, you know, I've
seen people who are a little bit sort

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of out of the loop on it. So basically, we we've reached a

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point where we kind of if we're
like in and out the door, you

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know, it's like we have to
kind of say something. And but if

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I wasn't to put architects in the
news this week, I felt I would

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looking at the script and I was
like, if I don't put this in

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right now, I feel like there's
an almost a conspicuous architect shaped hole that

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looks like we are kind of consciously
ignoring something and tiptoeing around it. It's

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the biggest mus release from our world
this week like that at the moment,

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isn't it. Yeah, So we're
going to talk about Architects a little bit.

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Of course. The statual story that's
prompted this this week is that they

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have released a new single. It
is called Curse. It's the I guess,

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the second single of the sort of
current whatever the current campaign is.

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We've not got an album announce or
anything, but there was that seeing Red

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single not long ago, I think
maybe the end of last year. I

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think we'd stopped doing shows around the
time. That's why we didn't talk about

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it. But we now got Cursed, the second big and again some of

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the really I guess warrants the discussion
is it is produced and recorded with Jordan

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Fish, who we spoke about on
you Know the New Show a month or

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so ago, talking about like,
yeah, it's Jordan Fish is leaving the

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horizon in order to pursue recording with
and producing bands and stuff like that.

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That's kind of one of his most
key characteristics of what he kind of brought

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to you know, bring me the
Horizon. So we were very curious always

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about what he would go on to
do, and so him working with a

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band of you know, architects stature
was naturally going to be a massive kind

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of meeting of mine for a lot
of people. And this song Curse is

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out and there is the other element
of Architects of on a musical level,

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some people are kind of losing interest
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I guess how would you describe the
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in terms of I don't know,
evolving, changing where people are viewing where

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they're at. I mean again,
it's hard like I'm trying to sort separate

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my famus as purely as musical thing
and separate from what we're going to get

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onto. Yeah, for me,
this feels like a band who are just

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like settled in as being a big, polished sounding radio melcor band. This

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is the like, I mean,
this is the most stale Architects I've ever

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sounded this song, right, I
I actually quite like this song and I

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think it I prefer it to a
decent amount of what was on the last

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album. I think it's maybe be
better than what was on the last album.

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I do agree, but this this
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me, okay, that's that's fair
enough. I would again that maybe part

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of my problem the last album,
which I'm overall I thought was solid,

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but maybe again the fact that there
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that were large and I agree with
that was an issue there. Maybe just

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getting one single here, I've been
like, oh yeah, cool, that

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hits a spot. I think it's
got a really good chorus. I think

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it's got a more memorable chorus than
what was most of on that album,

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aside from the couple of you know, singles from that that record. And

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I guess the Jordan Fish factor is
obviously I think it's a you know,

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in a commercial sense. It's obviously
a very clearly well produced song that has

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all the big, shiny elements you
want from that kind of thing. I

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think Architects were kind of a band
who were already at that point, and

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I said, this is my problem
with it. I don't yeah, I

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don't hear a I don't hear something
lacking. But I aside from just you

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know, this is what radio metalc
course sounds like, which we've discussed many

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times before about whether that's for us
or not. But I don't hear like

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a huge leap forward for having included
Jordan Fish from what they were kind of

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already doing. You know, this
is why I think it sounds like the

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productions are the bigger problem for me. The chorus like not as say,

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it's not a big chorus, but
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in a way that architects, even
on those last few records where they were,

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you know, going from more produced
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those choruses had a bit more on. This feels really like squeaky clean

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and just a little bit soulleess to
me on a production. I think it

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is the production that where I feel
like I'm landing more with the problems with

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this. And I don't think they
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And I think there will be bands
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Fish is doing. I don't think
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Yeah, I think that's fair.
I think Architects were already a you know,

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shiny, high glass, state of
the art enough band that they didn't

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need sort of someone shining up even
more. Yeah, like dragging, yeah,

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dragging them further into that. I
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kind of the sort of the twenty
twenty style proper you know, festival headlining

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as we'll see the summer kind of
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you know, for those that wish
to exist, I thought was excellent kind

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of from twenty twenty. Was it
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came out? From then on,
you know, they've not been the most

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exciting band to me, I would
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like a chorus, like catchy.
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level. I think this is one
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in terms of a big Jordan Fish
story factor, it's weirdly less interesting than

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a you know, one of the
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kind of meeting. You know,
you'd think on paper would be it.

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Maybe it is a fact that again
architects have kind of already been there,

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and I suppose you would be more
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for bands who aren't already kind of
the spirit bots Club is or what not

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that make more sense because they are
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going like more down that route and
just really tiling up that sort side of

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it. Architects. To me,
it's just like it's just made it sound

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more sterile and not as exciting that
like again on Sam's claims, the grit

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is kind of almost entirely gone and
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at this point. Yeah, that's
fair. Again, I think it's a

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good track. I just think it's
yeah, not a game changer basically,

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there is. Unfortunately, there's another
reason around architects that we've not spoken much

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about them recently. We haven't.
You know, even if I thought this

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track was sensational, we I'd find
it difficult to go completely all in on

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them right now. And if you
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about to say, then you know, I apologize for the next few minutes.

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It's just kind of again, we
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feel that we have to kind of
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where we are at, so we
don't have to strangely tiptoe around something.

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Get a band as big as Architects
for the foreseeable, which is the issues

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that have been going on around the
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for the past few months, and
how the band have kind of responded and

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reacted to that kind of thing.
So to go over again the story that

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many of you may know, some
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was January of this year. This
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not long after that, seeing red
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the guitarist in Architects who's been there
since twenty fifteen ish, I was looking

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earlier good while now, yeah,
I come with the exact sort of timeline

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of events or when he was like
a session member for a while and then

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officially joined the band in like twenty
eighteen. Maybe, Yeah, he retweeted

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something from the pretty you know,
very right leaning American commentator. I think

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it was Tim Poole, wasn't it. He retweeted something from him, a

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little clip. A bunch of people
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the fuck, Why is you know, a guitarist from architect A famously kind

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of left leaning or at the very
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responsible kind of act who have built
a lot of their reputation on that retweeting

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you know something from a commentator who
a lot of people would describe as being

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you know, a bigoted, you
know, far right kind of guy.

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A Christensen said sorry, I didn't
mean to do that. He did also

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say in that tweet, I don't
agree with anything that guy has just said,

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apart from fuck Justin Trudeau, which
was the subject of the comment that

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he'd kind of retweeted, which that
in itself a lot of people jump to.

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You can't accidentally retweet something that's not
a phone impact to hit the button

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twice. Yeah, so it's a
question thing in itself for me again just

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looking at that, if it was
purely that at the very least, he

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went, hey, I disagree with
a lot of what has been said here

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apart from that one thing. Right, So if it was left there,

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fine, What then happened? It
was a bunch of people basically went exploring

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through, you know, against social
media history and everything. People had had

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their suspicions before because of his engagement
with certain accounts where again never sort of

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sharing anything to this level of sort
of malicious, but there was kind of

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there'd been pass engage with people.
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I think, and waiting for the
moment where he shared something dodgy. Yeah,

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and again for me when when he
like retreated that thing, he you

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know, disavowed it. Fine,
But what then happened was people went back

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found that he had liked a whole
bunch of similar, you know, far

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right leaning kind of accounts and stuff
like that, and particularly there was It's

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difficult now because we're talking about a
few months after the event. All of

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Architet's social media account have gone right, so it's difficult trying to find the

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screenshots and stuff of what was there. But particularly there were you know,

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transphobic tweets and accounts and stuff that
were kind of being engaged with and being

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you know, supported by Adam there. I think for a lot of people,

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even though as you say, maybe
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from a band like Architects, I
think that would come to a massive of

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shock to a lot of their fans
because they have spent you know, well

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over a fucking decade building up a
largely again kind of uh you know,

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progressive, progressive is the word I'm
looking for again, you know, socially

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aware kind of fan base through their
music and the messages they were putting out

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there and stuff. So people are
like, hey, this is fucking mad.

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How are the rest of architects gonna
respond? And the unfortunate thing that's

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kind of brought us to where we
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of didn't. There was one incident, like a few days after this whole

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thing kicked off in January, where
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and Sam from the stage basically said, hey, you know, no one

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on this stage is going to judge
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or anything like that. And unfortunately, the response to that was basically people

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going, he's behind you, right, it's like the guy, yeah,

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Sam Carter talking on behalf of the
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who was actually having these things,
you know, kind of target him in

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this in this way particularly, No
online statement or anything was made. It

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was just like said to a room
of their fans who were obviously already in

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the room there with them. So
they turned up not having much of a

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problem, right, Like anyone who
had decided to stay home or whatever wasn't

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fucking in that room. That that
apology, if you can even call it,

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that, which wasn't really you know, was kind of given to So

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it was a bit of like a
hey, you know that hasn't actually cleared

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up why the guitarist and architects has
been, you know, supporting all of

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this transphobic kind of rhetoric online and
that's the only comment that has been given

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and in the several few months,
because people have not let it be kind

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of forgotten. In that sense,
every architects you know, social post or

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whatever has been greeted with a whole
load of people being like, hey,

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someone fucking say something about you know, the transphobia rhetoric that your guitarists could

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has you know, been supporting over
the years, and as unfortunately you just

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see on the internet swarms of people
you know, to the opposite point of

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view coming into you know, battle
those people in those kind of spaces.

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This is why I haven't engaged with
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at the time when I did call
out, I was just like, just

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not worth it. I can't be
dealing with like the transferred big attacks I

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was getting in my mentions calling it
out at the time. So this is

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kind of why I was like,
I'm just gonna wash my hands, Ben,

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but I'm leaving it. I don't. This is just not worth the

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sort of hassle. Yes, And
so basically you've got you know, architects

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social spaces are a war of people
being like, hey, what's going on?

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And you know, a hell of
a lot of transphobes coming into four

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architects and defend them. And architect's
response has been to a block a bunch

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of people who are like continually kind
of asking these questions rather than actually engage

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with them. And you know,
I am of the opinion that if you

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are someone who has a large platform, you have some kind of social responsibility

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to dissuade your audience in certain ways. I guess if there are you know,

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if you have areas in your community
that are being racist, transphobic,

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homophobic, whatever, hateful in any
kind of way, you have a responsibility

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to sort of step up and say, hey, simmer down. And uh,

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There's been no such moves from architects
that we have seen. So what

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has been allowed to happen is basically
a huge amount of fucking transphobes coming in

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swarming the architect's social pages again,
fighting on their behalf and the band have

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let that go and checked. And
this brings us to again, we are

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in April right now, They've just
released another single and just continually no kind

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of no addressing of what's gone on
with Adam, no attempts to stem the

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huge fucking, you know, flood
of bigots in their kind of social comments

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or anything like that. And uh, yeah, it makes talking about architects

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in a positive capacity right now pretty
fucking difficult. Yeah. I mean,

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the thing for me with this one
was like, if this had been you

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know, pick any fucking us radio
rock band whatever, you know, like

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it would suck like but I wouldn't. I don't think it would kick up

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nearly as much rests. A lot
of people were just goin to go like,

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oh whatever, Like when it's Architects
who are a band who have sold

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their entire sort of reputation on the
last how like ten plus years now at

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this point, really since the early
twenty ten's on kind of being socially conscious

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progressive, they wrote songs that are
like were calling out bigotry in religion on

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people feel betrayed by this. Yeah,

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and this was it. It was
it was And the thing is is the

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initial video shared, there was you
know, he could said the function shouted

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a bit, but there was you
know, oh, this is not what

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real men are. That there was
like homophobic and like transfer in that initial

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video and and there was a lot
of like again, Architicts are a band

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who threw being social, have cultivate
probably quite a strong LGBTQ following, and

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so it is going to like maybe
in part of that, and it does

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hurt to sort of see. And
then the disc is because we know,

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oh, how do architects make it
right? At this point, you know,

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an apology is not going to be
accepted. They're like kicking out the

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bands system. Like it's only be
accepted now because it's been left to sort

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of fester. There was no kind
of like I mean, for example,

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the Ghost Inside, when they had
their kind of instant with their basis and

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his sort of past rational marks,
they moved from the band. He went

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on various sort of things to kind
of like learn it and make an effect,

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and then there's kind of been just
excep back and then it was kind

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of gone, okay, look like
that, like there was just no they

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didn't shy away from it. They
took action to address the problem. And

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again it's not like that I'm not
on the place sale of that actual what

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the right actually take, but at
least you know, it was something.

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Here just feels that architects that their
approach has just been to ignore any kind

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of any kind of criticism of it
and not engage and at this point now

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block anyone calling out. And you
know, if they if they left it

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at that half half asked on stage
apology like, people wouldn't have been happy

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but it. But now the fact
that they're deliberately trying to like shut down

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discussion and block accounts and not not
take it any further, it does just

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make it look like they don't care, and it makes me question the sort

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of their integrity of what they were
saying beforehand. Yeah, the bizarre stem

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of that is I completely agree in
terms of, like again with the week

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that this story first really kind of
broke, you know, my fucking heart

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sank, because of course it would, but I was also I was waiting

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for the response, you know.
But the natural is particularly for us as

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kind of you know, reporting on
these kind of things and giving opinions on

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them, I find it difficult to
do that until a kind of you know,

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I'm willing to give a band a
chance to make right. Yeah,

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exactly. I don't expect everyone to
be everything to be perfect at all times.

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I'm willing to give a band at
the moment to see how they can

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react and reflect on what's happened.
And even if that is like again just

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getting the person to like churage them
to change their ways, I'm willing to

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have that opportunity. And the worst
fucking instances of these things are where they're

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the reaction is just like not there
because it just leaves the It's just a

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bad smell hanging around. You know, it's it's it's it's a it's a

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fucking door that's left horribly open.
And again you you're talking about the integrity

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of the members or whatever, like, you know, do I believe that.

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Let's say, you know Sam Carter
right who also you know, another

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weird detail around this. I know
it's not the same thing, but like

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he's a man who has been presenting
more effeminately in the last few years,

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hasn't he Like he's been you know, wearing eyeliner on stage and stuff like

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that and kind of you know,
making moves to again sort of you know,

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knock down certain walls and stuff that
were there. So and I believe

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that he does stand by that like
in his own views, but he's not.

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He does want to compromise the band
kind of like standing in terms of

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where they're at to stand up for
that. Yeah. So it's like,

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again, Sam Carter, do I
believe in a area that Sam Carter,

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for example, you know, has
transfer phobic view or does not believe in

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the kind of let's say, like
anti bigotry whatever lyrics that you know,

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he's he's sung in the past.
Currently, I don't have the evidence really

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to come out and say that,
you know. And again I can sort

408
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,319
of I can imagine that they are
viewing this sort of like social media cesspool,

409
00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:22,839
right of these warring factions and everything, and maybe they do think,

410
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,680
oh, you know, an apology
will only be rejected or whatever, and

411
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,200
they're just sort of trying to remove
themselves from that and just function. You

412
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,160
know, They're still playing to fucking
huge crowds of whatever. So it's not

413
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,599
having the largest knock on effect in
terms of their popularity or anything right now.

414
00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:38,400
Obviously, this song that's come out
this week is a big event.

415
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,079
And everything. So I can see
them just sort of removing themselves from the

416
00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:48,400
social media sesspool. But unfortunately,
by taking that non response route, it

417
00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:52,720
letting it just sort of blow over, is not the right way to do

418
00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:53,759
it, because, particularly now in
the social media age, it doesn't fucking

419
00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:59,640
blow doesn't. Yeah, And what
you do by not responding to it is

420
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:04,559
you leave people no alternative but to
assume the worst, which is that you

421
00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:08,119
are covering up for your bigoted mate
and you don't actually care as anything that

422
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,599
you've kind of put out there,
because the success of your band now is

423
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,160
stronger than anything that you've said.
And again, like, do I necessarily

424
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,599
believe that certain members and architects you
know, aligne with some of these things

425
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:26,319
that we're talking about. No,
but they have taken the most cowardly course

426
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,079
of action, which means that,
as said, a lot of people have

427
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,559
to fucking assume the worst and it
just makes again impossible to talk about their

428
00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:38,759
band in a kind of level headed
sort of manner in this way. And

429
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:41,200
so that is the state we're at
in artets. Again, I don't like,

430
00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:45,559
you know, you can make your
own decisions on this, Yeah,

431
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,559
that's what I mean. That's why
I've I've kind of just asserted that I've

432
00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:53,000
removed myself from the kind of discourse
at this point because it just it's not

433
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,480
something that I'm particularly bothered about being
engaged with. I've said my piece on

434
00:27:56,519 --> 00:28:00,519
it. I got a bunch of
transfer your hate film like cool, I'll

435
00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:02,599
just leave that there then. Yeah, And so I just you know,

436
00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:03,759
with the kind of things, it's
always for me, it's about, you

437
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:08,079
know, transparency of what we are
doing kind of as commentators and reporters.

438
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,640
You know, like if we just
stopped talking about a band, you should

439
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,240
know why, And if we do
continue to talk about a band, you

440
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,559
should at least know that we are
aware of the reasons why many of you

441
00:28:19,599 --> 00:28:23,359
out there might be, you know, not want to engage with that band

442
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,839
yourself. And you can take your
own route there. Again, So when

443
00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:30,039
it comes to looking over the rest
of this year, if we get an

444
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,839
Architects album, obviously we're going to
have, you know, Architects a headline

445
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,759
Bloodstarck and all this kind of stuff
is going on. I don't know to

446
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:40,200
what degree we are going to comment
on those things. I don't know,

447
00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:42,359
if you know, we will kind
of just call it there and not carry

448
00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:45,880
on. I don't I don't know, but we reach the stage basically with

449
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,960
the release of this where we're like, Okay, if we're going to talk

450
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,160
about archtects, we have to fucking
state the obvious, which is that we

451
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,119
don't feel good about, you know, the kind of the way their band

452
00:28:56,119 --> 00:29:00,359
has behaved in the last several months. And so that is the current state

453
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:06,039
of you know, our architects for
us, and I guess you can as

454
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,880
make your own decision there, let
us know what you think whatever, But

455
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:12,279
that is architects, Sam. The
next part of the news I just need

456
00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:17,160
to throw to you basically because I
have I'm not really aware of what exactly

457
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,240
in particular has been going on,
but all I know is that, you

458
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:23,519
know, let live lifers are beginning
to let some kind of weird hope into

459
00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:29,920
their hearts that maybe they actually might
what's going what a let live teasing?

460
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,799
What's going on? I mean,
the other day the let live instagram posts

461
00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:37,640
Instagram account posted for the first time
since twenty sixteen. It was like an

462
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,519
image that to me was just kind
of alluding to like the anniversary of the

463
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:45,799
Blacks Beautiful even that's now like eleven
years of it, like, but they

464
00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:48,680
did eleven could they ever do that
fucking like remix thing? Whatever they said?

465
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:52,559
Jason did tweet he said he would
never actually change anything about like the

466
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,759
art he's put out. It sounds
that way for a reason. Quere is

467
00:29:56,759 --> 00:30:00,400
he? But this is then there's
been now Like whenever saw Themagone was like,

468
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,480
oh no, you know, eleven
years of that album call maybe we'll

469
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,400
get every issue of it. And
then they posted another image and I was

470
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,759
like, hang on a second,
they're posting more than one. And then

471
00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:15,720
every day now they're sharing stuff on
their Instagram store and it's just like fan

472
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:19,240
tattoos, fat like videos of them
playing live, and it's just and again,

473
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:22,519
like, no one wants to fully
commit to the idea that Let Live

474
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:26,880
could be back, because it's a
fool's hope. It feels like, but

475
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,960
bit by bit, I think all
of us are slightly going but what if

476
00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:34,440
we were here with box, won't
we I'm telling myself that it is just

477
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,000
going to be reissues. Who knows
if Let Live are coming back. I

478
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:41,960
want Let Live back. I don't
want Jason Butler playing let Lift songs with

479
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:48,000
other people because I do think there
was a magic today that was those members

480
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,200
playing together and the ideas they brought. Like Jason Bollot was obviously the lightning

481
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,519
sort of like explosion at the front
of it, but Let Live were more

482
00:30:56,559 --> 00:31:00,880
than him. As again, I
really like Fever three three three much posted

483
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,279
a lot of other people would see. Then again, they're really popular,

484
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:06,519
so maybe maybe it's just you know, the sort of the podcast and that's

485
00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:10,440
sort there. But if you do
offer something different to let Live that isn't

486
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,920
that doesn't hold a candle to let
Live still because they're one of my favorite

487
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:18,680
bands ever. It's just yet,
it's there is something happening like they like

488
00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:23,720
whatever there's been, you know,
or of a let live anniversaries. Jason

489
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,039
Butler's done it on his own accounts, not on the letlive account. So

490
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:30,279
this is this is why, this
is where people are starting to sort of

491
00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:33,440
let themselves get caught up in the
moment and maybe we're all idiots and it

492
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:37,799
is just going to be our hopes
getting dashed. But I want to cling

493
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,599
on to something in these dark times. Literally, Yeah, So I mean,

494
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,839
yeah, there there you go.
We don't have any information right now,

495
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,920
we can't say anything or speculate anything, but you know, we are

496
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,960
aware that let Live are doing something
or other. A couple of new songs.

497
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,920
We first one is we have Sonya, who have announced this week that

498
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,359
they have been signed to Century Media
and to you know, announce that they

499
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,240
put that out with a single called
Discretion for the generous Sonia, I have

500
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:10,440
name dropped a couple times on the
podcast up to this point. They released

501
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,880
an album in twenty twenty two called
loud arriv which is like one of the

502
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,799
albums I most regret not getting onto
the show to review it. I regret

503
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:22,519
you're not getting it onto the show. Yeah, I got into that later

504
00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:25,200
down the line. It's really good. Yeah, the timing of it just

505
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,799
like again, it didn't quite land
at the right moment in terms of like

506
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:32,119
when I heard it and that kind
of shit. But it's fucking brilliant and

507
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:35,960
they are like one of the best
bands I think to emerge from kind of

508
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,440
the heavy underground in like the last
like two or three years and again' name

509
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,839
dropped a couple times. Is like
a really cool upcoming band. For me,

510
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,200
this moment of them signing Central Media
was almost one of those like inevitable

511
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:51,000
one of the larger metal labels is
gonna something cool. Yeah, it's gonna

512
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,960
pick up this cool band at some
point. And again, like their their

513
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,119
first record, loud Arriver, I'm
glad that you've like heard it because it's

514
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,759
one that I was definitely going to
like try and fung or towards you at

515
00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:05,079
some point because both in sound and
in kind you name dropped on the podcast

516
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:06,920
at one point and I was I
need to get around to that, and

517
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,839
I did, and I was like, yeah, that's really cool. Yeah,

518
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,160
it's got an incredible story and a
kind of narrative that flows through.

519
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,480
It's a really fun she seems really
really cool person, and that what she

520
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:17,279
kind of came up against and how
she how she responded to it. I'm

521
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:20,759
like, how fucking yeah. Yeah, And that record, louder Ivor is

522
00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:23,680
like a wonderful It's just a testament
to that kind of you know, like

523
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:29,960
plant in that kind of flag and
it's fucking excellent. And so I was

524
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,400
always gonna be interested in kind of
you know where the next Sonny thing we're

525
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,359
gonna be coming From the fact that
it's now on a larger label, it's

526
00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:37,680
like, oh fuck yeah, Like
more eyes are going to be on this

527
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,119
and so a new track. We've
got a new song, which again is

528
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,759
called Discretion for the Generous. It
is a it's a bit more of a

529
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,039
sort of like slightly more mid paced, kind of quieter track. It's got

530
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:52,559
like some you know, more delicate
guitars and vocal mostff like that, which

531
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,200
it was again, it was was
cool. I think again if you if

532
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,400
you hear this and you quite like
it and you want to hear them like

533
00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:01,799
fully firing, like go and listen
to their song Nylon Nights from the first

534
00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:07,400
album is fucking sensation when it will
wallop you straight away. But for a

535
00:34:07,239 --> 00:34:09,519
uh again, so I thought I
was kind of interesting that again for the

536
00:34:09,519 --> 00:34:14,599
big like bigger label, more people
are, this is gonna be first because

537
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:15,960
a lot people's first exposure to us. What do we do? They chose

538
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,639
a sort of quieter track, but
it's excellent. I think this is so

539
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,159
good. I mean like those like
guitar melodies that kind of like luscious gothic

540
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,159
kind of texture to it. But
when it gets the power, it does

541
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,639
kind of punch through. I'm like, this is really good again yeah,

542
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:36,159
because it's like five minute song.
It's not like an immediate sort of in

543
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,920
your face leading where it does take
a good while to to build to the

544
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,880
sort of bigger moments, but when
they punch through, they are like,

545
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,840
I'm like, oh, this is
what heavy Mail is actually just really fucking

546
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,599
cool and just sounds awesome. And
again, I just like the kind of

547
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:51,440
gothic moodiness to it that they've got
going on as well. Yeah. Absolutely,

548
00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:52,519
if you're a fan of bands like
Unto Others and stuff like that,

549
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:58,119
it's one of the most hell yeah
absolutely, you know kind of parallels to

550
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:00,519
that. And yeah, so I'm
just I'm very happy for them that they're

551
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:05,039
you know, stepping up something a
little bit larger. They're touring. They're

552
00:35:05,039 --> 00:35:06,920
not coming to the UK, which
I'm really annoyed about, but they are

553
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,360
in Europe. They're doing like road
burn and stuff around that this upcoming month,

554
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,639
and I presume this means we will
have some kind of song your you

555
00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:16,440
know, Central Media released album probably
later down the line this year, yeah,

556
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:20,280
which we will absolutely be talking about. That's now one of the more

557
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,559
anticipated ones of this year for me
and the Dirty Nil have covered total clips

558
00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:28,480
of the heart. It feels like
every fucking week the last is this is

559
00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:30,840
just all from that like deluxe edition
they've the deluxe edition is now out.

560
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,719
They put that the whole like deluxetition
is on Spotify now. Of the free

561
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,320
Range to Passion, it's got that
song they released, it's got this cover

562
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:43,880
and then it's all like demos.
Yeah, and I just applaud the audacity.

563
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,800
I suppose have been like, yeah, of course, you ridiculous bunch

564
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,400
of guys. One of your dream
covers was totally Clips of the Heart and

565
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,840
actually feels like yeah, almost aways
a closed book on this sort of dirty

566
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,840
nil era of like yeah, sure, end it doing that? Yeah,

567
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,000
I mean I was a bit like
they've really done like the first verse in

568
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:00,599
chorus, they've like a little short
and punk version of it. I was

569
00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:04,960
like, do the whole thing.
You're cowards to the heartest amazing song that

570
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,320
they they they fully commit to.
The bombast of that chorus is big.

571
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:14,639
Yes. And also we just received
word as well that you know, as

572
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,000
we are recording this the night before
Friday, as it goes out, there

573
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:21,800
will be a Thursday song released,
which is the first Thursday song in many,

574
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,000
many years. They have been a
band who you know, I know

575
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:28,039
some Thursday fans who have kind of
lamented them being in that kind of stage

576
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:30,440
of like only doing the nostalgia and
not functioning properly as a kind of creative

577
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:36,000
outlet. So the fact that Thursday
have new music is quite a notable thing

578
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:37,199
and we will absolutely, you know, obviously we will have that to talk

579
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:43,079
about next week. Orange Goblin have
announced their new album, fairly long awaited

580
00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:45,079
for them. It's called Not Rocket
Science and that's going to be out over

581
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:50,119
the summer as well. I've been
listening to what that will sound like.

582
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,679
Yeah, exactly, But I think
they are one of the great sort of

583
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,360
national treasure. Oh yeah, no, of course, like bands that we

584
00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,639
have lively brilliant. Yes, I've
heard from them. Really fucking shitty news.

585
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,519
There was you may have seen fighting
around social media in the past couple

586
00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:08,519
of days. Neza Blog Records,
which is in Norway, previously known as

587
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:13,400
Helvette, is the most famous kind
of black metal site. I suppose it's

588
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,760
where it has the basement with the
black metal side and everything that everyone who

589
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:19,840
you know visiting Norway goes and takes
their photoword and stuff. But you know,

590
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,239
it is a functioning record store to
this day. They had a huge

591
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:30,519
fucking fire that devastated the store.
It looks like that the fire was occurred

592
00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:32,119
in the basement, and they've shown
like you know, photos and stuff of

593
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,599
kind of the the ground level bit
where you enter, and it looks like

594
00:37:35,639 --> 00:37:37,559
everything's fine. But I don't Again, I don't know exactly what was contained

595
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:42,239
in the basement versus the top.
Certainly that's a place where a lot of

596
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,079
kind of like you know, almost
like black metal history archive stuff with whether

597
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:50,320
it be you know, items,
memorabilia, whatever, was contained. So

598
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,239
again I don't know exactly what was
down below, what was up top,

599
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,400
whatever. But there's a couple of
photos of like again where the fire happened

600
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,360
downstairs, and like a shelf of
like melted record Cause it genuinely it like

601
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,880
breaks my heart, Like I look
at that. It sucks to say,

602
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,199
is yeah really unfortunate. Yeah,
And obviously, you know, best of

603
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,320
luck to the shop and everything in
terms of you know, getting back on

604
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,960
their feet, and they've got like
you know, donations paid and stuff like

605
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,280
that. But just like looking at
a shelf of again melted never to be

606
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:22,360
fucking recovered artifacts and memorabilia and stuff, it just absolutely shatters me. So

607
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,239
really fucking terrible us there, and
again good luck to everyone evolved there in

608
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,440
terms of, you know, recovering
what can be done there. Rise Against

609
00:38:29,679 --> 00:38:31,679
have announced a few shows that are
going to be going around the UK and

610
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,800
Europe. They're doing shows here in
August. Theorizing there about whether that means

611
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,039
they're part of you know, the
festival market or whatever, but they are

612
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:42,039
going to be playing shows in August. Speaking of another band who have turned

613
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:45,199
up in every fucking new show,
Dream Fitter. The first one I did

614
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,480
was just basically to tease Sam,
but they have genuinely just constantly been announcing

615
00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:51,960
things. They've announced that they're huge, like fortieth anniversary tour, which is

616
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,400
also the first tours and the return
of Mike Portnoy to the band, and

617
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:59,159
they are playing the O two Arena
in the UK that they haven't been in

618
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,199
the last few years. It's certainly
an upgrade. Is this is this the

619
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,000
power of Mike Portnoy being back in
dream Feit that they can suddenly play the

620
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:09,159
O two Arena. I don't know. Again, I'd be very curiously how

621
00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:13,320
this one sells, you know,
but they are they are gunning for the

622
00:39:13,679 --> 00:39:17,760
two arena. Wardrouner has also announced
a really sizable UK tour. They've got

623
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,199
a new single from a new album
that is gonna be coming out but early

624
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,840
next year. Actually had doing a
huge fucking you know world tour UK stopped

625
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:30,679
as well. They're doing places like
is it the Royal Abbert Hall? Yeah,

626
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,159
and you know they're playing similar theaters
like you know, the one near

627
00:39:32,199 --> 00:39:36,800
me and Liverpool and stuff of those
sort of levels. So that's a big

628
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:42,880
old event going on. And Marty
Friedman x Meganeth guitarist Serial Officionado is back

629
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,960
on it again. Where one of
my favorite stories the last couple years was

630
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:52,599
Marty Freedman going on a fucking incensed, raging Facebook rant about Captain Crunch watering

631
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:57,039
down their recipe and no longer being
what it once was. Turns out,

632
00:39:57,039 --> 00:39:59,400
because he lives in Japan, has
done for several years, he has now

633
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,559
received a huge shipment of all the
American cereals that he loves, and he

634
00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:09,199
went online to post his numbered rating
and reviews for every single American cereal compared

635
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,559
to what he remembers. You can
go and find that I do not have

636
00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:15,519
time to read this whole thing.
Believe I'm had a little Loup for it

637
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:20,159
now and it's like the man is
thorough, but I just love that.

638
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,119
That's a weird part of his personality
that has been about the blossom in the

639
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:25,480
last years. The guy you did
that so loo on Tornado usuls constantly ranting

640
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:31,199
about Cereal. Cereal enthusiasts on Facebook, so there you go. Questions back

641
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:36,079
again on this hyperblasts as usual.
They tend to come from it. That's

642
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:37,280
not focused group on Facebook. So
if you want to ask a question you

643
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,719
should go over there and deposit your
questions there. If you don't have Facebook,

644
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,079
you can fire them to us by
you know, some social channel means

645
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:49,360
that you do have. But the
ones we have today are kicked off by

646
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,239
Tom Felex Howcroft, who says a
few weeks ago a link got shared for

647
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,599
free tickets to see Pendulum at Leeds
Arena. I didn't think it would work,

648
00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:59,480
but it was through Ticketmaster and it
actually did and a great night was

649
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,440
had by all. This least my
question, what are the best deal or

650
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:05,679
ticket lits you found? Before?
What was going on with they were giving

651
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:09,199
away free tickets to a fucking It
seemed to only be that lead stake,

652
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,360
So they are they doing just free
Pendiam tickets in general, and I was

653
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,199
like, no, the London No
Two dates sold really well, so I

654
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,480
was like, oh, okay,
well see you. Then it is it

655
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:22,599
a we literally have to give these
tickets away deal, I don't I My

656
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,639
answer to this is I can only
speak to ones that i've sort of witness

657
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:29,480
happening, ones rather than ones I
have personally kind of take. You know,

658
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:32,320
the famous British summer time was yeah, which is relevant to me because

659
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,360
I was there, but I had
bought my tickets months before, right,

660
00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:39,039
so you were you wanted to see
Black Sabbath sound Guards exactly. So I

661
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,559
was at that famous fucking like five
pound ticket day whatever it was, except

662
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:45,880
I'd paid sixty on quid. And
that's the closet the bost adjacent that I

663
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,960
have ever been to something like.
I've had it once, which was when

664
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,800
I got cheap Airosmith tickets. After
they did they were they were doing they

665
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,840
did download twenty four and then they
were doing was it hard Rock Calling or

666
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:04,239
whatever? One of those really crap
day festival sort of things where I didn't

667
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,960
care about a single of a band
on the line up really apart from Aerosmith.

668
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,159
But they they put things saying like, oh, if you went to

669
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,559
download his cheap tickets to Aerosmith,
and so I was like, my sister,

670
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:15,199
you want to go see aeros how
much? How cheap are we talking?

671
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,760
Roughly? I think it was about
thirty quid. That is pretty fucking

672
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,440
cheap for her, like for areas, but they were like, I think

673
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:22,960
it was like halfway tickets when they
were like seventy eighty quid tickets and they

674
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,880
were down to like thirty pounds.
And I know that's not free pendulum tickets,

675
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:31,119
but Aerosmith, if you offered me
fucking Aerosmiths straight for thirty quid.

676
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:36,480
And this was like twenty fourteen where
they were on like really good live form.

677
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,760
So I was like, I saw
twice that summer because of like getting

678
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,400
fairly cheap tickets and that was good
fun. Yeah. And I but there

679
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,840
was the famous was it All Points
East where they bring the Horizon one?

680
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,559
Yeah, where they had to give
away everyone had to give away tickets to

681
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:52,199
that. Yeah. Similar. And
I suppose with stuff like that and this

682
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,000
pendulum on and stuff, you're you're
you're curious about why you know what is

683
00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:58,719
going on, which means that I
mean, I think there was no secret

684
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,719
about the All Points East one why
they went that. Yeah, And I

685
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:06,320
think obviously right now something's going on
as we speak is the Friday Hip Hop

686
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,480
Day of Outbreak seems to be having
some kind of trouble where you know,

687
00:43:09,559 --> 00:43:15,880
we've spoke before about when that was
announced they had the Friday, you know,

688
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,199
hip Hop Day Outbreak, but rather
than it was last year where it

689
00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:22,519
was still the weekend ticket you have. You cannot buy a full weekend ticket

690
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:24,920
Outbreak. You have to buy the
ticket the events separately. And because it

691
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,639
is primarily a hardcore festival, it
looks like no one has fucking bought tickets

692
00:43:29,679 --> 00:43:34,639
specifically for the hip Hop Friday Day. And now they are, you know,

693
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:37,320
the day tickets. Maybe it's like
eighty quid or something like that,

694
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,119
and it was eighty five good down
to thirty five, like fifty quid off

695
00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:42,639
of yeah, and so you're looking
at that going holy shit, you know,

696
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,960
your gamble of ticketing the day separately
is not fucking paying. I mean,

697
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,920
he's worked wonders for their like for
the two hardcore days that I mean,

698
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,880
they're like, oh sure, basically
like sold out. But yeah,

699
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,639
I feared when we saw that,
I was like, I don't know if

700
00:43:55,679 --> 00:43:59,719
that's a good idea. I don't
understand. I had a similar thought.

701
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,039
Yeah, and it just again it
makes the process more difficult than you have

702
00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:06,639
to having to buy you two different
tickets rather than just one blanket thing.

703
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,639
But yeah, stuff like that where
you go like, what is going wrong

704
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:15,719
to have you know made this happen? Which again the Pendulum one date of

705
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,320
their tour. I don't know why
I would be interested to know what exactly

706
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,000
was going on there. The funny
thing about the obviously the incident that I

707
00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:25,079
was at least adjacent to the British
summertime one, is that that wasn't the

708
00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:29,000
case. That's genuine. That was
like a glitch, wasn't it. I

709
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:31,679
had so I had tickets to not
the Sabbath day that was? Was that

710
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,440
twenty fifteen? Was it? No? It was twenty fourteen. I think

711
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,280
it was the same year as or
maybe the year before the Taylor Swift one

712
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,880
that I do you know, No, I didn't have tickets to that one.

713
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,960
I think it's seem busted at that
one from busting them Backstreet Boys and

714
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:50,320
then again they were we got them
at full price because we wouldn't even busting

715
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,760
them back step boys. Yeah,
but the blacks happ thing. If I

716
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,679
met again, this is ten years
ago and I have paid full price,

717
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,480
So if you give if I'm not
remembering entirely correctly, but I think there

718
00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:00,639
was something wrong where like on was
a glitch on the site, yeah,

719
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:05,920
that the tickets had just gone down
to like five quid and then loads of

720
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,679
people bought them, and the festival
just kind of honored it and went like,

721
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,519
yeah, yeah, yeah, you
bought them. Our system fucked.

722
00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:14,599
They shut it down pretty quickly anyone
who got in, and I think are

723
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:16,039
quite fair. A few people did
get through to it. They they did,

724
00:45:16,119 --> 00:45:19,960
They did honor those tickets, and
I'm like, yeah, the great

725
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,239
fucking Black Sabo scandal of twenty fourteen. Ben Wilmot asks do you ever get

726
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,480
grief from listeners or bands for sticking
the boot in if you think something is

727
00:45:27,519 --> 00:45:30,840
disingenuous or playing crap? There's always
someone somewhere who loves to say my grandma

728
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,400
taught me if you haven't got anything
nice to say, et cetera. Yeah,

729
00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:38,440
two prongs to that question listeners and
banned the listener's point. We you

730
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,639
know, we have had the odd
review. There was a prominent one last

731
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,280
year where you know, things have
kind of gone south in terms of I

732
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:51,519
don't know, conversation around it in
general. Like this is a question I'm

733
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:53,880
constantly answering on the on the Facebook
group, like if you go. And

734
00:45:54,039 --> 00:45:57,880
I tried to be active and kind
of responding to people when they have a

735
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,440
comment about the podcast and you know, put on it. Most people do

736
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:05,840
it say it in a very,
you know, a pleasant, constructive kind

737
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,639
of manner. Some people are like, hey, you know, I only

738
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,760
like the positive reviews. I'm only
interested in hearing what you guys, you

739
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,679
know, want to promote and want
to kind of get to more people.

740
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,679
So I think that that's what your
energy is best spent on. And I

741
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,079
respect that, and I try to
again reply a lot, and I basically

742
00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:28,000
say something on the lines of that's
fair enough. Just fucking listen to the

743
00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:30,119
positive ones. Then, like if
you hear us, you know, being

744
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,119
negative or something, you can tune
out. Because we set the stall out

745
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:36,559
quite early on in our reviews,
isn't it. It's never really a sort

746
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:40,840
of a light plot to it.
Yeah, and I think it is important

747
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,960
to continue having I would say that
a ninety percent of reviews that we do

748
00:46:46,199 --> 00:46:50,679
are quite positive because again, the
way we pool albums, the way we

749
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,679
have to select what albums we actually
want to talk about. Normally that does

750
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,960
mean we'll funnel out the crap and
we'll talk about the things that we are

751
00:46:58,079 --> 00:47:01,000
keen on. The things that we
do leave in that we are negative on

752
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:07,800
tend to be of some significant or
you know, public interest or yeah,

753
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,519
or just the interest to talk about
it or whatever. And I do think

754
00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:13,639
even if it is so while the
ratio is that I would say, pretty

755
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:17,360
skewed from you know, negative towards
positive, the negative that we do have

756
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,800
in there, I think is still
important in terms of you can't be that

757
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,800
place that just blanket gives everything a
positive review, because otherwise that you need

758
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,880
context, you know, you need
the bad to kind of give weight when

759
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,599
we say, hey, this is
really fucking good. You know, we

760
00:47:34,679 --> 00:47:38,760
haven't just said that about literally everything. So the listener's comment again, like

761
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,880
largely people are very positive about it. If you happen to be someone who

762
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,679
just prefers, you know, the
positive, then I would like to say

763
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,119
that we've kind of given a good
reason as to why we do still continue

764
00:47:49,159 --> 00:47:52,639
to, you know, give things
at kicking when we think it's deserved.

765
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:57,760
The band point is a little more
nuanced and interesting. I suppose you use

766
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,679
the word disingenuous here in the question, which is something that I try not

767
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,920
to accuse bands of very often.
I think because like most records that are

768
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:13,440
shit right, bands have made thinking
I've tried thinking they are good right,

769
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,199
and uh, you know, I
obviously I grew up getting its bands at

770
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,639
Metallica and stuff. And you see
those people who are like fucking load Reload

771
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,960
Metallica will fucking they you know,
don't think those albums are good. They

772
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,480
have just done that purely for money. And you know, the thing that

773
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,000
would always stick in my care is
like, you know, fucking Cliff Burton

774
00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:36,559
wouldn't have let load or reload,
you know, happen as if he wasn't

775
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:39,199
one of the more musically adventurous guys
in that band. And my aim is

776
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,920
to basically not turn into one of
those guys. You know, like,

777
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,559
even when I record is bad,
I I try to avoid accusing bands of

778
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:51,840
being genuinely, you know, shameless
in what they are kind of doing,

779
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:57,119
unless I think it is genuinely kind
of clear and and and deserved. I

780
00:48:57,159 --> 00:49:00,920
think that's a Generally it's overused people
saying like, oh, questioning integrity,

781
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,800
and I think in that case,
bands have more of a right to be

782
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,840
upset with you if in a review
you make it personal and you question their

783
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,840
integrity rather than simply criticizing the product. Right where, I think they're a

784
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,320
bit of a less of a less
leg to stand on if you haven't turned

785
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:20,159
in some kind of attack on again
their intentions and integrity. So I try

786
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,079
not to turn it into that unless
I feel it is clear. Generally we

787
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,079
do not have a lot of kick
butack again, mostly we review things positively,

788
00:49:27,159 --> 00:49:31,559
so most bands who hear the reviews
we are out of them are fairly

789
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:36,760
pleased about them, just like hey, thanks for the support. Interdents where

790
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,280
bands are pushed back haven't really been
explicit ones. It's more been just sort

791
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:45,280
of like, uh, you know, almost things that you could sort of

792
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:51,920
assume are maybe in some way linked
to something you've said. Yeah, I

793
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,719
mean, I can't think of millions
as were like particular on this where bands

794
00:49:54,880 --> 00:50:00,559
really pushed back or or like some
of them you know, might like comment

795
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:04,760
onto it all like that, but
like for me, mostly these like I'd

796
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,920
normally see more from listeners side than
bands, but maybe that's just me not

797
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:12,679
paying attention to mean for me,
I like I would rather just be honest

798
00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:15,760
about an album if it's good or
bad. Like, like, I understand

799
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,880
people don't want hear negative stuff,
but if we were going to pretend everything's

800
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,360
good, then you like, we're
not being we're being disingenuous. We have

801
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:30,079
to be our genuine selves with what
we're saying, and that means we just

802
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:32,960
scree on things or we all kind
of like unite on giving a band a

803
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,280
bit of a kicking. We we
we're just saying like being genuine and it's

804
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:42,400
like, and again I do agree, there's far more positive reviews out there

805
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,360
than there are negative ones. And
like last week, I mean we were

806
00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:49,079
like I was one of the most
negative views I've done, and I got

807
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,159
nothing out of that really because I
didn't want to be negative on that particular

808
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,559
band. Yeah, And I think
it's a tough balance, Like what I

809
00:50:55,599 --> 00:51:00,920
was saying in terms of like my
natural assumption is that most bands don't hear

810
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:06,719
the reviews we put out with them. I think that they are more Yeah,

811
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,400
and I will say that they're probably
more likely to if they are a

812
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,719
smaller band, right, because they've
got less promotional whatever, They've got less

813
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,880
busy schedules in terms of flying out
to wherever. So you know, if

814
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,960
some smaller band hears our review of
them, I'm not too surprised. But

815
00:51:22,039 --> 00:51:25,199
if the real big, fucking arena
filling bands, I I just sort of

816
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,599
assume that most of those guys don't
hear what we have to say about it

817
00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:32,920
to any reviews. Yeah, exactly. And so they're having a couple of

818
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,639
instances where again, some slightly larger
bands or whatever have you know, it's

819
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:43,119
said things online or whatever where I
go. My assumption is that probably isn't

820
00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:47,159
about us, but it could maybe
could potentially fit. Yeah, if the

821
00:51:47,199 --> 00:51:51,360
shoe fits, it could have applied. So again, a couple of examples

822
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,719
of bands where like I remember Berry
Tomorrow, dann even Berry Tomorrow tweeted something

823
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,719
last year when I was quite negative
about and Mean and Llio were quite negive

824
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,159
about their album, And I have
no fucking idea if he was talking about

825
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,719
us or not. He probably has
no idea who we are, but he

826
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,679
tweeted something where I was like,
that's vague enough that it could almost fit

827
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,400
what we had said. And then
you could say the same about again the

828
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:15,360
Whilst She sleeps comment which member it
was, but one of the members was

829
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:21,880
talking about kind of like digital fucking
beatdowns or whatever, yeah on the record,

830
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:22,760
and that maybe that wasn't us,
Maybe I had nothing to do with

831
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:28,079
us, But you see that and
go like, we could potentially be part

832
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:31,119
of that. The only one that
I like know for a fact turned out

833
00:52:31,199 --> 00:52:36,280
quite positive. That's what I was
thinking of is there was sort of Soul,

834
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,280
which is the band that like both
me and you are really you know,

835
00:52:39,079 --> 00:52:42,679
enjoy and respect a lot. But
that that's that was an incident where

836
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,400
it was one comment in the review
which kind of just because well, again

837
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,400
that was quite a positive review,
that one, but there was obviously there

838
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,480
was one remark that stuck out.
Yeah, and with again the story with

839
00:52:51,559 --> 00:52:55,719
that one was basically that there was
a review there which again a member of

840
00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:00,599
the band in question tweeted about kind
of experience sing basically like hit hearing a

841
00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:04,960
review that kind of bummed him out
a little bit. I thought that might

842
00:53:05,079 --> 00:53:07,760
be us reached out and then he
ended up coming on the show and we

843
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,079
had a and we smooth it all
over and had a long time, so

844
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:15,239
I chated him on the regular.
I really like and again like he I

845
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,559
think he was of those things that
I can understand why in that moment that

846
00:53:16,599 --> 00:53:21,679
would have hit him a bit like
sorely. And but again I just said,

847
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,280
we smoothed it out and it's all
good. Yeah, and the other

848
00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:28,280
it's like again going off Tangent but
not a band, but not a bad

849
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,000
but quite humorous is just this past
week there was a very humorous, generally

850
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:38,800
lighthearted back and forth between ourselves and
James from two thousand Trees and Arch Tangent,

851
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:44,559
who book those festivals where that he
has started up the podcast with Gavin

852
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:46,960
from Damnation where they talk about,
you know, the ins and outs of

853
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,840
festival promoting and it's a really fucking
good podcast. I recommend you go listen

854
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,760
to it if you're interested in the
logistics of what you know, those guys

855
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:59,519
putting on those really great beloved you
know UK heavy rock events are up to.

856
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,519
But I was listening and out of
the blue, James just drops that

857
00:54:02,119 --> 00:54:06,480
his favorite podcast the only way who
listens to is us, but it makes

858
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:09,079
him very sad that we always fallen
over Dow Nation Festival talking about how amazing

859
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:13,679
their lineups are, and when two
thousand Trees book anything, we stop to

860
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,000
point and laugh at Union six.
And I feel that my character has been

861
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:22,000
assassinated here, Like I wanted you
to know that I am a I am

862
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:24,920
a six s, I'm a Union
six fanch. Like it's just they're a

863
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:29,960
fun Yeah. And again I heard
that comment and I could tell from again

864
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,239
the way he said it that it
was entirely it was good heart. Yeah,

865
00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:35,119
it was at entirely in good faith, and obviously was I was.

866
00:54:35,639 --> 00:54:37,519
I felt the need to basically reach
out and be like, hey, you

867
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:39,440
know, a thank you for like, you know, picking up our podcast

868
00:54:39,519 --> 00:54:43,880
in any capacity. It's nice that
you listen, but also like you know,

869
00:54:44,159 --> 00:54:45,559
just be like, you know,
cheers for being a good sport,

870
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,320
and you know, we just have
maximum respect for those festivals, which we

871
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,079
fucking do. Like I've been to
two thousd Trees. I love it.

872
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:52,760
At some point when it works out, I'd love to be out tangent as

873
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:57,000
well. But and again, like
the day we're recording this, you know,

874
00:54:57,039 --> 00:55:00,239
he replied, he was like yeah, all good. H They put

875
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,480
up another episode where they just had
a little bit housekeeping. At the start,

876
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,800
they were talking about their little back
and forth air and again that's not

877
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,320
a negative comment at all, but
it was just a funny, weird little

878
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,920
like back and forth of like you
know, just you know, how you

879
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:15,119
perceive those kind of things and stuff
like that. So, yeah, generally

880
00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:19,760
we don't have a big problem.
It's more that, ever so occasionally there

881
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,159
will be one sort of flare up
that we then do our best to kind

882
00:55:22,199 --> 00:55:28,119
of you know, deal with and
wanting to be taken personally essentially. Yeah,

883
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:30,920
absolutely, we always talk about music
first and foremost. And unfortunately,

884
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,159
when you are talking about art,
naturally, the people who have made that

885
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,880
art or have a large piece of
investment into that art have kind of assigned,

886
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:43,480
you know, their own something of
themselves in that. That makes it

887
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,360
difficult to talk about. But that's
just the territory you go into when you're

888
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:52,199
talking again critiquing art. And mister
Alex Chillingworth says, whenever I need cheering

889
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,559
up nowadays, I watched the Las
von Trier I understand Hitler video. It

890
00:55:55,679 --> 00:56:00,280
put of course you do it put
things into perspective. It makes me realize

891
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,199
my life is fine. Do you
have a go to incident for a band

892
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,599
or artist who shit the bed like
this, as in they're not even trying

893
00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:10,800
to be outwardly hostile or offensive,
but just bumbling it so horrendously that they

894
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,960
accidentally ruined their reputational career. So
we're not looking for like canceled bands here,

895
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,920
right or again things like we had
to talk about earlier, where they're

896
00:56:19,039 --> 00:56:24,760
genuinely we have to properly fucking take
something to task more just like what people

897
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,079
put in their foot in their mouth, you know, I suppose like the

898
00:56:28,159 --> 00:56:31,639
one for me that almost like toes
those lines and people some people do put

899
00:56:31,679 --> 00:56:35,719
a lot more stock into it.
Is One of those people is who comes

900
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,280
to mind is Nurgle, where he
had that series of like Prince Charles esque

901
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:44,800
fucking faux pas of like yeah,
you know again, some people really interpreted

902
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:49,119
what he said as on various cases
of being you know, hateful or whatever.

903
00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:52,719
I didn't never read it as like
you Knownurgle as a terrible racist or

904
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,800
a rape apologist or all these things
that people kind of made him out to

905
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,719
be. But I looked at them, went, oh, no, why

906
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,599
have you said that? And you
know, there is a sort of an

907
00:57:00,679 --> 00:57:06,480
enduring thing around that, but sillier
ones like this. I came up with

908
00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:09,039
more than I thought I would for
a start, everything in some kind of

909
00:57:09,079 --> 00:57:14,480
monster, I suppose, fucking everything
that Lars or Rick says with his art

910
00:57:14,599 --> 00:57:17,400
or whatever. You could say,
everything in the back end of Nails.

911
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,519
His career, as we discussed in
our special was kind of a weird career

912
00:57:21,679 --> 00:57:25,719
ruiner, at least for that chapter
of them that the Royal Blood stage meltdown

913
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,679
last year, maybe you could say. And it was interesting because I guess,

914
00:57:30,679 --> 00:57:32,679
you know, people used to say
mental shit in like the eighties and

915
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:37,000
nineties, and now more often it'll
be caught out and kind of escalate into

916
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,199
something else a little bit more serious. So where did you go? I

917
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,000
mean, my head was when I
was like, just start the party count.

918
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:52,480
Also, the record like the old
Dumpson book Josh Franceski buying his own

919
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,639
album from H and V A fifty
Pounds No, is the one that sticks

920
00:57:54,719 --> 00:58:00,599
my memory of like how fucking does
out of Touch no? Self aware?

921
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,719
Like it is a hilarious incident,
but it is. It is like just

922
00:58:06,119 --> 00:58:07,599
like, oh, you're silly,
silly man. Yeah, I mean the

923
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,280
once again Nurgle was a very fun
that came to mind, but that is

924
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,360
more on that kind of boundary of
like genuinely sort of serious stuff. The

925
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,000
one that I went over and went
this fully applies, and I think it's

926
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:21,000
the best example I can think of, and it's reason that I've not mentioned

927
00:58:21,079 --> 00:58:27,159
yet, but more reason than that
is just hilarious, which is exactly and

928
00:58:27,559 --> 00:58:29,719
especially when you say, you know
the last one, Trier, I understand

929
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:36,840
Hitler thing, the Dave Ellison,
Now I know how Jesus memory of like,

930
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:42,559
now I know how? And is
that when you've been all yeah,

931
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:45,639
it's got to the point where I
saw a tweet maybe about a week ago

932
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,360
of someone saying that, like someone
said they like understood how Joan of Arc

933
00:58:50,639 --> 00:58:53,480
felt or something, and I naturally
assumed my brain went to they must be

934
00:58:53,599 --> 00:59:00,639
talking about Daison. I don't think
they were, but that's is now he's

935
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:06,079
that guy. And again in terms
of just like we're not canceling dade elisoid.

936
00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:08,800
It was a fucking weird, silly
thing that happened, but in terms

937
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:14,599
of like that is now his reputation
right a the imaging question, but also

938
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,880
then the quotes that have followed it, like quotes that followed fucking unbelievable,

939
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,079
a couple of other like you know, not fully cancellable, I guess,

940
00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:27,079
but kind of like questionably daft Ones. I suppose a big one would be

941
00:59:27,159 --> 00:59:30,039
Upon a Burning Body. Well,
what did that counts? Because again that's

942
00:59:30,039 --> 00:59:32,400
one of them was like such a
weird like that feel was almost quite quaint

943
00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:38,000
by modern statues their career, like
it really did like they never recovered from

944
00:59:38,039 --> 00:59:43,000
the fucking faked kidnapping incident and the
album actually was quite good, the album

945
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,159
that that was all in part of, and it was just like you really

946
00:59:45,239 --> 00:59:49,599
just messed up badly there, lads. Yeah, I think the underground equivalent

947
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,519
is ghost Bars still gets stick for
pretending they were Chinese and they came out

948
00:59:55,199 --> 01:00:00,239
yeah. Yeah. It was like
when they very first founded their band and

949
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,159
they were like selling like their first
EP on band camp or whatever. They

950
01:00:02,239 --> 01:00:06,360
had like their location listed as China, and it was they were all anonymous,

951
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:07,679
and it was like, oh,
who are this you know, anonymous

952
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,079
Chinese black metal bands just to sort
of drum up a bit of you know,

953
01:00:10,679 --> 01:00:14,480
attention, And then when it came
out that they were actually from fucking

954
01:00:15,199 --> 01:00:17,880
like Portland wherever they're from there are
still people now more than the decade on

955
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:22,559
who are like won't take Ghost Bar
seriously or give them any time because they

956
01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:27,400
pretended to be Chinese when they were
starting out. And does Steph Carpenter count

957
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:34,880
for this probably does. Yeah,
Like there's a bunch of like silly hardcore

958
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,480
ones as well that again comment just
random like hardcore bands where they just get

959
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:42,440
caught up in a discourse that is
so stupid and just gonna go like being

960
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,039
in a band is a silly thing
sometimes, like the washing out Furries one

961
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:50,280
is always the one that what band
that was? But then when they had

962
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,679
the entire furry Twitter like rallying against
them and basically getting them to pay for

963
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,920
this Furries medical bills who got more
stout on this show? Hey, they've

964
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,599
got fucking insane possely on their side. You don't want to mess with them.

965
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:06,400
Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to
get Elliott's ideas on this as well,

966
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:07,440
and he said he's got some good
ones. So I'll ask Elliott this

967
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:12,039
again when he's on the show again. So there you go. That's questions.

968
01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:16,000
Thank you very much for those Patreon. This week, we have something

969
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,079
that we've just put out and I
guess something that's gonna be coming up very

970
01:01:19,079 --> 01:01:22,679
shortly as well. Out yesterday,
as you are hearing this so available to

971
01:01:22,719 --> 01:01:25,599
you right now, we had t
DOES Horror return for the first time in

972
01:01:25,679 --> 01:01:29,800
several months. We explain in the
little sort of little round up at the

973
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:34,039
start why it's been a few months, because the horror slate of you know,

974
01:01:34,119 --> 01:01:39,119
DOES Horror for the beginning of this
year was fucking dreadful, But we

975
01:01:39,199 --> 01:01:43,039
went over that. What we do
have to talk about is we did the

976
01:01:43,679 --> 01:01:47,519
Nuns in Double Trouble feature that again, if you like, I'm sure you'll

977
01:01:47,519 --> 01:01:50,960
be aware of these movies and you'll
feed them in you know, advertising or

978
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,840
whatever. But if you don't actively
follow a lot of horror discussion or whatever,

979
01:01:53,079 --> 01:02:00,559
everyone over there is currently just completely
in none mode because the x extremely

980
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:06,199
strange bizarre coincidence of two movies Immaculate
and the first Omen coming out essentially the

981
01:02:06,239 --> 01:02:09,280
same time. They're still both in
cinemas, featuring so much of the same

982
01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:14,480
like at times literal plot points,
but also you know, just like the

983
01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:17,639
themes and the content, and they're
extremely similar movies in a lot of ways.

984
01:02:17,719 --> 01:02:22,400
Everyone's just been naturally just kind of
going mad over those two movies and

985
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,079
kind of you know, comparing what's
going on with them. So obviously that's

986
01:02:25,159 --> 01:02:29,239
naturally, very very made for a
podcast like ours, and we did exactly

987
01:02:29,639 --> 01:02:37,400
that thing, talking about certainly the
two movies that have like properly made horror

988
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:38,719
good this year. Yeah, like
you know, after a really, yeah,

989
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:43,800
a very poor start of the year, we like these two coming out

990
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,760
has been like we were like,
ah, here we go and has been

991
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,480
a really was a really interesting discussion
to kind of like because again, on

992
01:02:49,559 --> 01:02:52,280
the surface level, really really similar
movies, but it was just kind of

993
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:57,719
like dig into what actually differentiates them. Yeah, which is the other kind

994
01:02:57,719 --> 01:02:59,760
of point, because they are extremely
similar in a lot of ways. But

995
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:04,039
all so I think the discussion around
them can be more nuanced than you sometimes

996
01:03:04,039 --> 01:03:07,119
see from just like little you know, tweets of people nailing their colors to

997
01:03:07,159 --> 01:03:08,239
one master or another, because they
do differ in a lot of way.

998
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:13,719
So we had our podcast just fully
diving into every detail of those where one

999
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:17,400
film excels where another film exxels,
and it felt very naturally made for us

1000
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,239
and so made for I think a
really interesting and enjoyable podcast to do.

1001
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,960
And also there is secretly a third
movie that is also out in the cinemas

1002
01:03:27,119 --> 01:03:30,400
that is actually secretly a part of
the triumvirate of Immaculate and the first Omen

1003
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,199
and it probably is a movie that
you are aware of and has probably seen.

1004
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,599
So if you want to know what
one that is and where that chimes,

1005
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,360
go and listen to the Tinne's Horror
that is available for patrons. And

1006
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:44,960
then coming up our next musical special
is I suppose, just to explain the

1007
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:49,400
schedule a little bit, reviews this
month are weird in terms of how a

1008
01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:52,000
how many there are, but also
the kind of backloading of them. So

1009
01:03:52,199 --> 01:03:55,000
the review show is going to be
out not next week on the nineteenth,

1010
01:03:55,039 --> 01:03:59,119
but the following week, the final
Friday. There's a lot coming out next

1011
01:03:59,239 --> 01:04:03,119
Friday, isn't there. Everything of
like real significance that is jostling for a

1012
01:04:03,199 --> 01:04:09,039
place is out those final two weeks. So basically the last Friday of April,

1013
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:14,079
I'm gonna have the review show.
But this upcoming month, upcoming week.

1014
01:04:14,119 --> 01:04:15,639
Sorry, Instead of having an album
club pack this month, we are

1015
01:04:15,679 --> 01:04:18,440
going to actually increase the amount of
abs you are getting because we are bringing

1016
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:23,599
back the album Swap, which if
you are a long time listener about you

1017
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know, two or three years ago, you may remember myself, Sam and

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01:04:26,719 --> 01:04:30,760
Alex Chillingworth we did a little swap
where each of us picked an album for

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each you know individual other host.
We all traded albums that we thought they

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hadn't heard that also they might get
something out of and enjoy. And it

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was really fucking good, Like I
became a Lepros fan because of it exactly.

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Alex made you listen to Danko Jones
rocking. Yeah, you picked for

1023
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:50,039
me like a crying emotional hardcore album
that I quite enjoyed. It was a

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01:04:50,119 --> 01:04:55,280
you know, a nice little swapsy
of again like niche cool stuff because the

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aim is to get something that maybe
hasn't been discussed, and so myself,

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01:04:59,239 --> 01:05:01,920
Sam and Elliott are all going to
be bringing that format back and doing one

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of those and giving each other,
you know, cool things. Let me

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01:05:04,719 --> 01:05:08,360
tell you again, we're we're still
working out exactly what's going to be picked,

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but we know that there is going
to be like oil punk in the

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mix. There is gonna be quite
a lot of that. Actually, what

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else has we got kind of confirmed
sort of probably some kind of core yeah,

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you know, beloved UK bands,
probably some you know, some strange

1033
01:05:23,719 --> 01:05:27,280
proggy stuff, eclectic mix of bunch. I think the particular format makes for

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01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,960
quite eclectic stuff. So that is
going to be coming next week and then

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as said, the reviews to follow, So jeers everybody who is you know

1036
01:05:33,199 --> 01:05:35,920
on board at the Patreon. That
is what keeps us going, that is

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01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:40,960
what is you know feeding you this
particular month. And so we're going to

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01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,480
close up with the releases for April
the twelfth of twenty twenty four. The

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biggest one, I guess is that
Blue Oyster Cult have an album which is

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01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:51,480
a bizarre kind of it's they've said
it's to be their final album, but

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01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:57,039
it's also of like really old songs
that they've dug up. So I don't

1042
01:05:57,079 --> 01:05:59,719
quite know exactly what's going on with
it, but I fucking love blos Cars.

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01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:01,559
Check at what they've got going on, moving into more traditional T and

1044
01:06:01,679 --> 01:06:05,360
M fair this is an interesting one. Again. I've got to see if

1045
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,679
we've got room to talk about it
or not because it's so busy, but

1046
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,480
it's kind of interesting. There's a
band who are drumming up a fair bit

1047
01:06:11,519 --> 01:06:14,280
of hype in the kind of metal
undergound a moment called Castle Rat, which

1048
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,039
is a great fucking name. They
have like a whole fucking thing going on

1049
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,719
with like their album cover is amazing, the kind of front woman like get

1050
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:25,599
up. They have like a some
whole mythology going on, but it is

1051
01:06:25,719 --> 01:06:30,440
like really good pr shot. Yeah, and they sound like they look right

1052
01:06:30,519 --> 01:06:34,119
like it's that kind of like retro
trad doom type stuff. But that's I

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01:06:34,159 --> 01:06:38,599
suppose probably one of the metal records
that's gonna be more spoken about this week.

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01:06:38,679 --> 01:06:42,920
That record is called Into the realm
Pharaohese Folk Metal Store Wat. To

1055
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,000
this point, tier they've got their
record Battle Ballad. It's a really fucking

1056
01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:47,840
big week actually for that kind of
like trad heavy metal and that sort of

1057
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,840
world. Because we have those things. We have Riot or Riot v as

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01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:56,440
they are currently known with their recorded
mean Streets. We have Vulture with Sentinels,

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01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,960
which I recommend listening to. They
are a very good again sort of

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01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,679
contemporary like speed metal proper as fucking
denim and leather trad, you know,

1061
01:07:02,039 --> 01:07:05,920
rocking shit there records called Sentinels slightly
more on the maybe sort of retro we

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01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:10,360
dooom end or whatever. We got
Heavy Temple with Garden of Heathens. And

1063
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,159
there is a band called Tarot with
their record Glimpse of the Dawn, not

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01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,880
heavy metal Aaron West and the Roaring
Twenties in lieu of flowers, Sam,

1065
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,679
you're a Wonder Years fan? Are
you're also an Aaron West? Fucking know?

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01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:26,159
That's making a speach of Aaron Western
the Roaring Twenties. There we go.

1067
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Yeah, I am. I don't
like it as much of the Wonder

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Years, but you know it's nice
hearing supeb soupe like. It's not got

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01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,679
as much like punch as the one
Years have, so it's it's it's only

1070
01:07:33,719 --> 01:07:35,800
more of like, I'm in a
bit more of a chill vibe. I've

1071
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:40,079
sticking Aaron West album, but I'm
excited to hear what Supers got in store.

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There you go, and then you
also have some again more in the

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01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,679
kind of scream oy Lane. There
is a band called Heavenly Blue with their

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01:07:45,719 --> 01:07:48,519
record We Have the Answer, The
Return of the band Whores, who I

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01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,320
didn't realize had been kind of out
of action so long, but they had

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01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,559
a record like twenty sixteen or something
that was quite well liked, and this

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01:07:55,639 --> 01:07:58,639
is the follow up to that.
It's called War and then moving into again

1078
01:07:58,679 --> 01:08:02,119
sort of like sludgy post metally doomed
type stuff Love Sex Machine True Out on

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Pelagic Records, and then a pretty
decent day for death metal. We've got

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the very excellent, you know,
old school trad death metal band Neckrot with

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01:08:10,679 --> 01:08:14,440
their third album, Lifeless Birth.
We have more sort of you know,

1082
01:08:14,559 --> 01:08:19,439
kind of a modern death grind type
stuff from Benighted with eck Bomb Proggy,

1083
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:25,279
you know, elements with from Exist
with hijacking the zeitgeist, more kind of

1084
01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:28,960
like dirty Underground, you know,
nasty, scary, kind of technical death

1085
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,319
metal, replicant infinite mortality, more
in sort of the war metal type area.

1086
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:34,920
Here. I don't know how to
say this band here, a c

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01:08:35,159 --> 01:08:38,359
arch something along those lines. I've
never said that word out loud before.

1088
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:43,079
But then Edifice and there's an ep
out from a north Lane called Mirror's Edge

1089
01:08:43,119 --> 01:08:45,319
if you want something a bit more
kind of shiny and mirror in that regard.

1090
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So there you go. Those are
your records. Thank you very much

1091
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,359
for listening. Let us know what
you think in terms of again the kind

1092
01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:55,039
of the issues we discussed earlier,
some of the more serious stuff or whatever,

1093
01:08:55,159 --> 01:08:58,520
Like what do you reckon moving forward. As said, next week we

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01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,199
will have a normal hype last another
one, but we'll also have that battles

1095
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:05,159
swap type special that I just laid
out there. We'll have all of the

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01:09:05,159 --> 01:09:09,680
albums that are involved with that you
know available to you as well, and

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then following that we will have our
review shows. So cheers very much,

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we will see you again. Bye
bye,