1 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:30,719 Hey everybody, it's Friday, March fifteenth. Welcome to BombCast Revengeance. I've 2 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,079 decided we're going to take a whole new tone to this show right now. 3 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,759 You know, we watched Mikey Boy beat it right before this on non professional 4 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,799 Friday. You guys are gonna get me in trouble. The community was also 5 00:00:44,439 --> 00:00:48,880 away and beating it in Bulatro. Baby, I'm your host, Jana Choe, 6 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,399 welcome to BombCast Revengeance. Joining me co captain of the ship as always, 7 00:00:53,679 --> 00:00:57,840 He's the constant ace up our sleeve. Jeff Grubb, I love to 8 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:03,119 watch my friends beat it. The mic kind of got clipped you there. 9 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,519 Yeah, it's all of the best. I think it's probably for the best. 10 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,840 It's probably for the best. We've got our own joker. He's wild. 11 00:01:11,239 --> 00:01:15,840 He fits in every type of suit. He's multiplying all the time. 12 00:01:15,599 --> 00:01:19,560 Mike Manati Alsma. That might be Dad. Yeah, it's me. I'm 13 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:25,879 good at Pialatro Immortal Kombat Mythologies. That's right, soon to be number seven 14 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,000 on the charts. That's legitimately very impressive. Michael Oh, thank you. 15 00:01:29,079 --> 00:01:34,519 Jan Oh Yeah, that's a word for it. Yeah, and we got 16 00:01:34,519 --> 00:01:38,480 our man on the street. Our man on the field, reporting live from 17 00:01:38,519 --> 00:01:42,799 outside checking out the birds. Dan record, I'll check in right now. 18 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,079 In the last eight and a half minutes, I've been out here, We've 19 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:49,239 got a blue jay afoot, We've got a harry woodpecker. We've got a 20 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,200 red bellied woodpecker, we got a red winged blackbird. They're all over the 21 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,519 place. I found black capped chickadee, a house finch, and a northern 22 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,760 cardinal are all in the immediate vicinity within the last ten minutes. So we're 23 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,640 gonna keep an eye out here. So you've not heard a house sparrow? 24 00:02:04,159 --> 00:02:07,759 Do you say house sparrow? I think I might have seen one this morning 25 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,080 at like seven o'clock, but I've not identified it. It's not on my 26 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,159 life list yet. No, okay, because they are everywhere in my place. 27 00:02:15,159 --> 00:02:17,759 There's a million house sparrows left and right and center all over the place. 28 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,759 That's the one I get the most of online break breaking news. A 29 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,000 downy woodpecker is said. We do have a hairy woodpecker, a red bellied 30 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,479 woodpecker, and a downy woodpecker around, as well as the pilliated woodpecker, 31 00:02:28,479 --> 00:02:31,120 which is the pterodactyal that keeps attacking my house. But no, the sparrow. 32 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,280 I have not seen a lot of those. Definitely. The one I 33 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,280 have the most is the red winged blackbird that is all over the place. 34 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:39,639 I'm sewing this app right now, Dan, is this Stockholm syndrome? Are 35 00:02:39,879 --> 00:02:44,599 you having Stockholm syndrome? From the bird attacking your house holding you hostage? 36 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,879 And now you're like getting super into birds as a response to this is what 37 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:52,919 I did with mortal combat mythology. Yeah, yeah, no one's ever No 38 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:59,080 one's ever compared Moral combat mythology is sub zero to birdwatch. We're all about 39 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,599 breaking boundary. Here a giant bonds. Yeah, you turn a negative into 40 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,439 a positive. Yes, yes, numerous times a day. My wall is 41 00:03:05,439 --> 00:03:08,319 about to collapse from a giant woodpecker, and my dog's go insane and everything 42 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,319 goes in disarray. But I have a new hobby. Now I'm looking into 43 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:15,080 backpacks, I'm looking into new binoculars. I got all sorts of stuff going 44 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,199 on. Oh, Dan, are you gonna go as far as to get 45 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,879 like a geely suit so you can hide so the birds can like on come 46 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,680 to you. I've looked at I'm gonna start dressing like a Dudley boy. 47 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,599 So I got like camo going on. Yes, I'm gonna start going like 48 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,400 into the bush. I think there is I keep getting sound. I'm sorry, 49 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:38,759 what, Mike, He must be watching funny YouTube videos in the background 50 00:03:38,879 --> 00:03:42,680 or something. Penny, tell me more about your going to get to the 51 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:45,479 bush. All right, I'm gonna go deep into the bush. I'm getting 52 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:50,080 waterproof gloshes and uh, I'm gonna be protected from the elements. Uh. 53 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:52,759 You see, I gotta go down there. There's a mallard. I keep 54 00:03:52,759 --> 00:03:54,039 hearing a mallard. I can hear it, and my phone hears it, 55 00:03:54,319 --> 00:03:58,039 and it's down there and all I can see is the ripples. I haven't 56 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,719 made a full visual idea on the mallet yet, so I'm keeping all out 57 00:04:00,759 --> 00:04:10,280 there. Uh. So, my I have the newer iPhone and it has 58 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,960 like the really good zoom lens for iPhones, and I've just been trying to 59 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,319 snipe birds because Scout scares off every single bird in the vicinity as soon as 60 00:04:18,319 --> 00:04:25,759 she hears it. So so I'm gonna have to strategize my my birding do 61 00:04:26,079 --> 00:04:29,000 the sound stuff like I've done the photo. The photo thing works pretty well. 62 00:04:29,079 --> 00:04:30,600 But like I think the sounds it's like live and then you can start 63 00:04:30,959 --> 00:04:34,920 identifying the actual like I I know the song of the red winged blackbird. 64 00:04:34,959 --> 00:04:38,160 Now it's like, oh, I know what that is. There's the mallard 65 00:04:38,199 --> 00:04:43,720 that's this? You know, I like it. You see any snipes yet, 66 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,199 Dan? No No. I went hunting for of in Iowa when I 67 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,360 was a kid, though, and I didn't find any. Get to go, 68 00:04:49,399 --> 00:04:51,360 really, get to go really early in the morning. I go as 69 00:04:51,399 --> 00:04:55,120 far into the woods as you probably. It was like three in the morning, 70 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,399 and I went real far ahead with that bag. I didn't see any. 71 00:04:58,079 --> 00:05:01,319 Keep trying. I think I get it. Gentlemen, Welcome to the 72 00:05:01,399 --> 00:05:03,480 end of the week, and folks, thank you for joining us for another 73 00:05:03,519 --> 00:05:08,439 episode of BombCast Revengeance. We got a couple of games to chat about off 74 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,680 the tippy toppy here. But since we're talking about the bird app Merlin, 75 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,000 right, that's a Merlin, that's all. It is, like a Disney 76 00:05:15,079 --> 00:05:24,360 character, Okay. I would have like several different iterations good one. Uh. 77 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,879 Yesterday during voicemail dumb Truck, when Dan brought up the Merlin app, 78 00:05:28,319 --> 00:05:31,519 I wound up asking about if there was an app to identify mushrooms and shout 79 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,879 out to tickle Bits because Ticklebits suggested Merlin to Dan. They also suggested the 80 00:05:38,399 --> 00:05:41,839 app Seek by Eye Naturalist, and it reminded me I already had that app 81 00:05:41,879 --> 00:05:46,040 on my phone and I was identifying a bunch of plants and stuff yo by 82 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,560 my apartment. I grew up in Daily City, like majority of my life, 83 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:55,000 but this part of Daily City, there's so many mushrooms that I'm low 84 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,199 key terrified. Are they like things that like have a dog eate him? 85 00:05:58,199 --> 00:06:00,680 Would it be bad for him? I have no idea. Uh, but 86 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,600 some of them are like very large and bulbous and like, I mean a 87 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,399 lot of mushrooms are very phallic looking. But some of them are just like 88 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,279 damn, they look like like like soccer balls sometimes like that size and it's 89 00:06:12,319 --> 00:06:15,399 just big and around. Yeah. Yeah, like one was probably like the 90 00:06:15,439 --> 00:06:17,720 size of like this jar, just like in terms of like going up. 91 00:06:19,439 --> 00:06:23,360 Yeah, I like that they should only look like they do in Mario Brothers. 92 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,399 I hate when I see other kinds of mushrooms. You don't like the 93 00:06:25,439 --> 00:06:28,319 chicken of the woods, like those weird like plinky, the ones that look 94 00:06:28,399 --> 00:06:31,040 like they be platforms in like a wood level of a three D platformer. 95 00:06:31,439 --> 00:06:34,439 Well, those are cool there, like Little Nemo the dream Master. It'd 96 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,639 be like, yeah, I just get more excited when I see one that 97 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:40,360 looks exactly like I imagine a mushroom looks like in my head, which I 98 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,439 do. Have my yard sometimes, which I've learned is not good. It 99 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,399 means your yard is dead or decrepit. That they used some word to say, 100 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,000 yeah, that only happens because that that yard is bad. I'm like, 101 00:06:49,079 --> 00:06:53,399 okay, well shit, do you see the uh I got the bread 102 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,199 on the tree here? So yeah, I had two places one of yeah, 103 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,600 one bird kabab was taken, the other one is fresh. Also, 104 00:07:00,759 --> 00:07:03,360 I am sitting on the deck that was like red alert on my house inspection. 105 00:07:03,439 --> 00:07:05,319 That is like, dude, to collapse at any minute. So this 106 00:07:05,399 --> 00:07:11,800 could be the funniest possible last podcast I ever. Wait, so wait, 107 00:07:12,399 --> 00:07:15,800 what have you done anything about this information? Nope, that's gonna have to 108 00:07:15,839 --> 00:07:20,399 be next year because I got a retaining wall to I gotta keep my house 109 00:07:20,399 --> 00:07:25,120 from falling into this pond. That's first, and then I'll worry about not 110 00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:29,000 collapsing on this deck. That's what it's retaining. Okay, your whole house, 111 00:07:29,279 --> 00:07:31,160 I'm gonna word you right now. Cannot be a bit where you like 112 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:34,519 have made a video of your deck falling down by pretend and I have a 113 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:46,600 hard I have my lines and we're crossing them to it's faking my own death. 114 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:54,839 That's okay, noble line. Yeah, that's not fake that you broke 115 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,480 that story today. I did always, for years and years, hope that 116 00:07:58,519 --> 00:08:01,399 Andy Kaufman was pulling like a super elaborate thing. Of course I hoped for 117 00:08:01,439 --> 00:08:05,399 that, you know, I was always hoping the same, but for Eddie 118 00:08:05,439 --> 00:08:09,439 Guerrero. But like that dude's like dead dead. I was listening to listen 119 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,600 to Deadlock and James, one of the hosts, went to the Roy Rumble 120 00:08:13,639 --> 00:08:16,360 this year, but he doesn't watch the product, so he doesn't know that 121 00:08:16,439 --> 00:08:20,680 the l wo's music starts with Viva Larasa and so, and he couldn't see 122 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,680 the screen from where he was sitting, so he just heard that music during 123 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:28,480 the rumble and he's like, what what are they do? Eddie coming out 124 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,320 maybe a smidge lower on that game thing, by the way, damn yeah, 125 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,600 way, Jura says, just chiming in. This would not be a 126 00:08:39,639 --> 00:08:46,080 workplace injury. Thanks, I'm m hm, and they demand that you bird 127 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,399 while podcasting. He did, he did. I've got the paper trail. 128 00:08:48,879 --> 00:08:52,039 No playing games here because we played games before this podcast. We're going to 129 00:08:52,080 --> 00:09:03,320 talk about them now. I'm thinking about getting an electric guitar to uh well 130 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:09,080 live play the transition music. Great, yeah, might go there, he 131 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:16,679 goes. It doesn't quite match the vibe I was looking for, but it's 132 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:22,320 it's he's got the electric guitar of faces. There we go. Actually I 133 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,480 like that. Oh yeah yeah, and then we'll get like a tumbleweed rolling 134 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:30,559 through. I have to admit I was still playing Blattro while the podcast was 135 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,360 happening. But to be clear, I made a booboo because I was playing 136 00:09:33,399 --> 00:09:37,039 Blattro all the podcast is happening. I'm on Anti seven, about to actually 137 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,360 be therem getting one hundred thousand like every two hands h And I wasn't looking 138 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,320 because I was talking to you guys. And I did the thing where I 139 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:50,120 swapped out all of my jokers for one like polychrome Joker or something like that. 140 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:54,919 Everything point five. That's good. Yeah, And I just watch all 141 00:09:54,919 --> 00:10:00,000 my jokers disappear. So I've been punished cosmically for this, so don't worry, 142 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,120 buddy, quick. The first rare bird I've seen there is a purple 143 00:10:03,159 --> 00:10:09,960 finch in the area and also a dark eyed junko. Whoa the dark eyed 144 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,320 junk the chunk house in your yard? Wait, does it really rank them 145 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,919 by rarity? Yeah, you get a red dot next one if it's rare. 146 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,840 Oh, the dark eyed junko is cute. No, dark eyed juno 147 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,000 is kindness, But yeah, that is. The purple finch is the rare 148 00:10:24,039 --> 00:10:26,600 one that's around here right now. Yeah, but I'd rather have a junko 149 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:31,480 scene. Amount of birds around you, Dan, there's a lot of birds. 150 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:37,519 Yeah, I have been playing or I started playing again. Prince of 151 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:43,120 Persia The Lost Crown. Hey, uh we chatted yesterday on Game of Mornings 152 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,440 about the DLC dropping for that, like you know, like maybe is it 153 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,840 a waiting for that to drop. I'll just try and like jump back in 154 00:10:48,879 --> 00:10:54,159 and beat it. And let me tell you, I completely forgot how celeste 155 00:10:54,320 --> 00:11:00,759 esque some of the platforming Crown segments are. And just like Jesus Christ, 156 00:11:00,799 --> 00:11:05,879 I feel so alive whenever I'm not touching the ground, and like you just 157 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,080 get through the whole level it's oh my god, yep, that's it's like 158 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,159 the Bilatra thing where you make the mistake where you set the fake version of 159 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,240 yourself and then you like go to work back, or like you go to 160 00:11:16,279 --> 00:11:18,720 set one and you forgot that you set one before and then you warp way 161 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,480 back to the beginning of the whole jumping sequence, like that screwed me up 162 00:11:20,519 --> 00:11:24,279 a bunch. Is the DLC, Like, is it addition to like single 163 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,159 player stuff? So, yes, a single player there's going to be a 164 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,840 series of updates. There will be some like stuff that's like, oh, 165 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,960 here's a challenge pack of different things of like the platforming challenges or the combat 166 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,519 Challengrush Boss Rush. But there is going to be a story DLC at the 167 00:11:39,639 --> 00:11:43,159 end of this. So there's gonna be some free updates, and then a 168 00:11:43,159 --> 00:11:46,840 little bit later there's going to be full on story addition to the game that 169 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,080 is a full on expansion standalone like new areas or is it like baked into 170 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:54,120 ther I don't think we know that yet. Yeah, okay, yeah, 171 00:11:54,120 --> 00:12:00,759 but it turns out that photo map system still plays really well when you're revisiting 172 00:12:00,799 --> 00:12:03,440 the game, like a couple of months later, and like Okay, I'm 173 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,679 kind of parsing together where I was supposed to be going, what I was 174 00:12:07,759 --> 00:12:11,759 doing, or what was at least important to me and Jesus Christ y'all. 175 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,159 It's just it just controls so well, like the level of air control, 176 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,399 and then uh, like the maneuverability in like being able to pivot but also 177 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,240 just do that like somersault back and then like dashing forward. The movement is 178 00:12:24,279 --> 00:12:30,159 great, and like the combat I I wound up trying to switch it up, 179 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,679 and instead of just going full melee, I did the thing dan where 180 00:12:33,759 --> 00:12:35,799 you shoot you kind of like charge the boat, so you shoot at the 181 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,120 boomerang. And then I upgraded that a bit. And then I didn't realize 182 00:12:39,159 --> 00:12:43,559 how handy that donut would be. Wait, I'm trying to remember, can 183 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,639 you warp yourself to that to the boomerang thing? Yeah? Totally, Yeah, 184 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:48,759 that is an upgrade. I might not have that ability yet, but 185 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,919 that okay, well I know what I'm doing what I was saying, Okay, 186 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,200 yeah, oh yeah, that's what I thought. What donut are you 187 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,960 talking about? Oh no, no, you're charging up the boat. Oh 188 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:05,840 oh okay, got a hole in it? I'm sorry? What nothing I'm 189 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,120 sorry. Look, I can't help it now, Okay, you guys just 190 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,039 keep screaming from about beating it and going into bushes. Now, my mind's 191 00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:15,679 in a dirty place. I'm sorry, Mikey. I don't know video games 192 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,519 and birds. Mike. Yeah, it's really excited for Stowar Blade so that 193 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:24,559 the revolution can finally, the revolution is here, everybody, the revolution of 194 00:13:24,799 --> 00:13:28,559 butts in video games. I can't. I can't. Like Yo, people 195 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,879 need to fucking they need to cut everyone's ethernet Court Jane. Sounds like you're 196 00:13:33,879 --> 00:13:35,720 not part of the revolution. You want to be left behind, buddy, 197 00:13:35,879 --> 00:13:41,720 Listen. It's been well documented. I enjoy rear ends and very thick thighs. 198 00:13:41,879 --> 00:13:46,840 I the way that some people be going about this like y'all should be 199 00:13:46,919 --> 00:13:52,039 kinkshamed. Yeah, they have not been bullied enough. Absolutely, y'all have 200 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,000 not been bullied enough. Maybe I don't advocate for bullying or physical violence, 201 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,919 but maybe you should just get like shoved into a pile of leaves or something. 202 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,519 Yeah, just gently wedgied. Yeah, yeah, just like a like 203 00:14:03,519 --> 00:14:05,759 like a pat on the back that's a little too hard, that makes you 204 00:14:05,799 --> 00:14:09,679 spill your drink. One of those so that's where we'll draw the line. 205 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,000 That's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've also been playing 206 00:14:13,039 --> 00:14:18,120 and I also played with Grub and Mike yesterday the Star Wars Battlefront collection. 207 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,519 If I remember correctly, at least Grub, you had not really played it 208 00:14:22,519 --> 00:14:26,080 as much back then. I didn't play it. I checked it out a 209 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,480 couple times in the past, to the point where I would say, mostly 210 00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:31,840 I've never really played it. Okay, and Jan were you of the age 211 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,159 where it's it was just the holy grail of gaming because it seems to be 212 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:39,440 like a very brief window of age where they obsess over Battlefront. So I 213 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,279 mentioned yesterday, I remember checking out the first one in the collection a little 214 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:48,080 bit. I don't think I ever went online from my recollection. I am 215 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,080 curious about it because I like Star Wars stuff and I like fun like PS 216 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,480 two era multiplayer stuff. Is this Does it hold up for someone who doesn't 217 00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:58,120 have nostalgia for it fun? Yeah? If you you know, you're like 218 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,519 you're like me, you just like games from this era generally it's fun. 219 00:15:01,559 --> 00:15:05,360 The campaign stuff is actually surprisingly good. That might be what you really want 220 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:09,200 to check out. I think that it is like bot matches, but it's 221 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:16,039 presented very well bought matches, there's good dressing around that stuff. But I 222 00:15:16,159 --> 00:15:20,519 was surprised how much those newer Batfront games actually are still like this. I 223 00:15:20,559 --> 00:15:24,480 mean, you know, this collection itself is not doing much work. It's 224 00:15:24,519 --> 00:15:28,279 not even a remaster really. It really is just kind of like ports with 225 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,799 some things like okay, yeah you can do it at like widescreen and window 226 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,960 mode and whatnot. I think they missed a trick not doing more with it, 227 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:41,039 because these games do mean so much to so many people. Yeah, 228 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,320 I had a fun time. I don't I still want to put in on 229 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,720 like my Mount Rushmore Star Wars games, or even my Mount Rushmore of like 230 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,440 PS two Xbox era Star Wars games. But I was having a good time. 231 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,039 Let me look, you like, let me be like a Stormtrooper and 232 00:15:54,039 --> 00:15:58,960 then I'm and I'm running around hath and you play the Star Wars theme like 233 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,799 it's gonna do something to me. I am that simple. That is an 234 00:16:02,879 --> 00:16:07,120 amazing superpower those games have. It's just like you just use the soundtrack and 235 00:16:07,159 --> 00:16:11,720 it makes everything seem more exciting and past. I mean, I did enjoy 236 00:16:11,759 --> 00:16:15,399 being on those menus more than playing the game. Sure, well, I 237 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,840 mean, that's the thing about Star Wars is like the sound editing really is 238 00:16:18,879 --> 00:16:22,399 like almost eighty percent of it, just the sound effects and the music. 239 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,200 And if you get that stuff right in the video games, you are going 240 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,039 to have a really good time most of the time. Yeah, speaking of 241 00:16:30,159 --> 00:16:36,279 licensed games, you, Jeff, you and Tam were just laying into Jurassic 242 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,559 Park games say that they're never been good ones. I'm not gonna let this 243 00:16:38,679 --> 00:16:45,639 Jurassic Park tradition slander slot. Wait, was Rampage Edition an update on the 244 00:16:45,639 --> 00:16:48,399 Genesis game? I had the Genesis game reason be Grant and the Raptor. 245 00:16:48,519 --> 00:16:52,480 That's the messed up thing. Ramp Page Edition a full on sequel that they 246 00:16:52,559 --> 00:16:56,000 just called a ramp Page Edition for some reason. That's a bad idea, 247 00:16:56,039 --> 00:17:00,559 that's weird. I only original. I don't think I ever even thought about 248 00:17:00,559 --> 00:17:03,519 getting Rampaged. It's much better. It's similar, but much better. Yeah, 249 00:17:03,519 --> 00:17:07,079 play Rampage Edition. Fun. Also the those Evolution games, the Park 250 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,160 sims. I thought, yeah, that's what I said. I tried to 251 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,880 be like, I couldn't remember they called I've never played it, but I 252 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:15,119 thought people like you did bring up the three D O game that I had 253 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,559 and loved for being real freaking weird. Steph likes that a lot. My 254 00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:23,359 wife really enjoys that dressing Park game. So it was gonna do Trespasser and 255 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,160 have to cosplay as mini driver with a heart on their view, it'd be 256 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,880 great. That game's not like super easy to just play. It was just 257 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:37,519 an old PC game, but we had with the dossbox in probably working. 258 00:17:37,799 --> 00:17:40,160 We made it like like ten years ago. We had a striker put it 259 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,680 together, a game in form and we had it running. All right, 260 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:47,160 we can get it going then, okay, okay. But overall though Battlefront 261 00:17:47,279 --> 00:17:51,079 is it is kind of what I was hoping for, an easy way to 262 00:17:51,079 --> 00:17:55,920 get in there and check these games out, and that stuff works in our 263 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,640 scenario where we were playing, like a Sean set up a room, we 264 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,119 went in there. We had no issues. A lot of people are running 265 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,279 into bugs and connection issues trying to do things like the matchmaking that doesn't really 266 00:18:06,319 --> 00:18:08,799 work well, I guess, But in my experience, I got in there, 267 00:18:08,839 --> 00:18:11,160 played a couple of these matches. You know, we've played for quite 268 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,240 a while. Yeah. I thought the maps were really well done. I 269 00:18:15,279 --> 00:18:19,079 thought the heroes were like it was always fun to kind of play as Darth 270 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,039 Maul or jingle Fed or whatever, and I'm I'm really glad that they do 271 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,680 the thing where it's it's all of Star Wars at that at that time, 272 00:18:26,759 --> 00:18:30,200 so it was the prequel trilogy, trilogy and the sequel trilogy. I was 273 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,599 like, okay with games or like, we're just gonna be prequel trilogy. 274 00:18:33,559 --> 00:18:37,920 Sorry, yeah, pregel trilogy and original original trilogy. I was okay with 275 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,799 Games. They're like, we're just the prequel trilogy. That's that's what's coming 276 00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:44,599 out right now. But I was always going to miss the original trilogy stuff. 277 00:18:44,599 --> 00:18:47,240 So seeing this game be like, no, it's everything, it does 278 00:18:47,319 --> 00:18:51,279 feel like the like the the er Star Wars game. It's just all in 279 00:18:51,319 --> 00:18:52,559 there, and I like that part of it. That sounds like a good 280 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,480 future revengetion topic is the Mount Rushmore of Star Wars games? Yeah, yeah, 281 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,079 I think Jeritely do something like that on our own one time. But 282 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,279 it would be fun to like get more people and involved. But that although 283 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,720 maybe we have to make sure we get Jan playing Kodetur first. I'm sort 284 00:19:07,759 --> 00:19:11,279 of invested in that idea because yeah, I'm still trying to figure out where 285 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,039 where we could squeeze that in into the weekly schedule, I mean Monday's. 286 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,519 Like things are going to start slowing down here, I think for the release 287 00:19:18,519 --> 00:19:22,599 schedule as we actually get in the summer Dragons Dogma. So maybe maybe we 288 00:19:22,599 --> 00:19:25,880 could start figuring out more time in the schedule for stuff like that, because 289 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,640 there's a couple other things that you know, I wanted to check out. 290 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,960 I want to play Mother this year, or you know, Mother three of 291 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,640 Mommy, so I want to play Mommy, Okay, all right, uh 292 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,799 yeah. I think my only qualms with it is that like, oh wow, 293 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,079 this this is this just looks like the PS two game. Huh uh, 294 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,799 and then playing it with mess and keyboard. Maybe I should have switched 295 00:19:44,839 --> 00:19:49,519 to a controller to play this game instead. But I think I suffered from 296 00:19:49,519 --> 00:19:53,799 the thing of what Dan was alluding to at the beginning of like this being 297 00:19:55,319 --> 00:19:59,720 lauded as like the best Star Wars game of this generation, and then with 298 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:03,240 all the modern sensibilities that I've like absorbed of, like oh, okay, 299 00:20:04,319 --> 00:20:07,400 this is this right, it is what it is, I mean, and 300 00:20:07,519 --> 00:20:11,519 Mike's ray it's very familiar after playing the Battlefront for the modern Battlefront games, 301 00:20:11,559 --> 00:20:15,480 turns out they were just trying to recreate what people liked in those games. 302 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,559 Uh, but through the winds of dice in Battlefield. So yeah, it 303 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,119 was more more familiar than I was expecting it to be. It's funny we're 304 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,599 talking about like, you know, Battlefront being you know for a certain age, 305 00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:27,319 being like such a huge deal. Do any of you like, I 306 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,599 was just thinking, like, is there a game that I hold an extremely 307 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,960 high regard that when I look back objectively, I probably like for me, 308 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,680 I was thinking Twist the Metal two, just because you were at the exact 309 00:20:38,039 --> 00:20:41,480 right age, because I put Twist the Metal two up there with my favorite 310 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,680 games of all time. But if I look back objectively, it's you know, 311 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,519 it's it's very good for what it is, but like to me, 312 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,720 it's like an old timer, Like did you have another one that was like 313 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:57,160 I'm I'm stubborn, and uh, it's it's very hard for me. That's 314 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,799 a doctor bottom of PC so he was playing instead. Yeah, Well, 315 00:21:00,799 --> 00:21:03,960 I'm just saying like it's hard for me to look at any of the games 316 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,640 that I love as a kid and being like I see why this is aged 317 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,480 badly. I'm just like, no, this is still great. This makes 318 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,920 me happy. I'm gonna look at my top under game and see what I 319 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:17,839 think it's like the most aged. But my joking answer is to say the 320 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,400 Bouncer. But I recognize and realize that that is not the best game. 321 00:21:21,599 --> 00:21:30,079 But no people have have criticized my love for Final Fantasy Tactics Advance over War 322 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,799 of the Lions. I'm with you one hundred percent. Yes, yes see 323 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,920 because I am also with you. Yes, I actually enjoy the judge system. 324 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,039 I know a lot of people hated it, but I don't know that's 325 00:21:42,039 --> 00:21:45,279 cool. Let me throw better now, let me throw this out. And 326 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,119 I can't believe this has never once come up as an idea. I think 327 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,200 in the like ten years ago I started the Giant Bomb, not once has 328 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:57,000 it come up. Should we at some point endeavor to get everyone on a 329 00:21:57,039 --> 00:22:00,799 series of podcasts and determine the topundred games of all time, like Giant Bombs 330 00:22:00,799 --> 00:22:04,000 top one hundred games of all time? Yes, it's definitely something I've always 331 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,920 had in the back of my mind. Is like when we're doing live shows, 332 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,119 when we're doing stuff like that, if we want to do a yes, 333 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,960 I think it's a series. I don't think we like a live show, 334 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,960 you've got it, Like I said back of the head of like a 335 00:22:18,039 --> 00:22:21,599 possible idea. I always thought like, no, that'd be too troublesome, 336 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,799 too bit like I think we could do like a game of the generation for 337 00:22:22,839 --> 00:22:26,279 a live show, but if we're doing our top one hundred, that a 338 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,960 series. Yes. For the second game in form of work done was issue 339 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,519 two hundred and so like one of the first ones that I was like in 340 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:34,039 the meetings for was the two hundred games, the top two hundred games of 341 00:22:34,079 --> 00:22:37,079 all time, and that is a gaunt like we didn't record any of but 342 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,599 obviously, but like it is such a conversation if you get a bunch of 343 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,480 different people with different opinions and riding down a ranked top two hundred of all 344 00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:48,160 time. I think even just doing like one hundred would be amazing with us, 345 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,640 how are we? I would like, how would you go about determining 346 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:55,200 it? Dan? Is it just kind of like fervor and argumentative or that's 347 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,200 what's toughest, because I think we landed on the legend of Zelda was number 348 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,839 one, and then like ten, Triss and Mario brothers were two and three, 349 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,920 and so that was very much like importance type thing, because you have 350 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,480 to set those parameters. You have to set the like is it based on 351 00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:10,079 how good they are to play today? Is based on historical importance? Is 352 00:23:10,079 --> 00:23:11,119 it based on how good it was at the time? So, like, 353 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:17,079 I think we would have to set those parameters very clearly and be strict to 354 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,119 them, Like like, is it the top hundred games to play right now? 355 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,160 The top hundred most important games of all time? Is it Giant Bomb's 356 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,400 favorite hundred games of all time? Like, we got to figure that out. 357 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,319 There's so many different ways that it can go, and like you know, 358 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,200 it's always like like somebody like me, Like I'll mention a lot of 359 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,319 older games. Imagine like somebody, it'll be like, oh, that's really 360 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,039 age and then it's like, well it's to me. It's like, well, 361 00:23:36,079 --> 00:23:37,920 what do I do with that? Because it has an age to me? 362 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,160 So it's fine, So what am I How do I argue that it 363 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,880 hasn't aged compared to it has age? Right? Somebody that's subjective? Do 364 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,599 you choose your favorite child when it comes to like I would assume that tam 365 00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:52,400 would present several souls games, right, So do you just take the best 366 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,119 six Mario games on there. Gonna think most of them should be on there, 367 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,519 multiple Souls games, but like there will be a certain player like all 368 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,519 right, not a six game. I mean I would have probably at least 369 00:24:04,519 --> 00:24:08,039 fifteen games with Mario and the title in like eight probably. Yeah. Yep, 370 00:24:08,599 --> 00:24:12,039 oh man, this sounds fun. I already I am feeling tense thinking 371 00:24:12,039 --> 00:24:15,359 about it. I mean it's like I think the idea for this would be, 372 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,240 uh, like bomb cast Revengeance episodes over the summer, like when things 373 00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:22,200 start starting as much going on. Yeah, we do like an hour a 374 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,039 week for like a month and see where we're at. Yeah, and we 375 00:24:25,079 --> 00:24:26,680 whittle for however long the episode is, and then we leave it there we 376 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,200 pick up next week. You know what would be fun is if we had 377 00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:34,960 different casts for those different BCR episodes, so like a different group is kind 378 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,279 of determining what they're going to bring up. Yeah, but you guys are 379 00:24:38,279 --> 00:24:41,039 just gonna like take all of mine off and like call it up. No 380 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,720 no, no, and then ye like maybe we all get to like uh 381 00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:49,599 with those different groups, we get to like fifty. So then like we 382 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,920 see where like the vent diagram is where we miss mosh, Well, what 383 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,200 if it what if every group does bring in at least one hundred games and 384 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:03,720 then we have to start cutting from there and Eurovision style one hundred Eurovision with 385 00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:07,039 this guy so he never shuts up about it. Everybody. I think there'll 386 00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:11,599 be a lot of games is like one point a lot of ties, man. 387 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,920 I think I would probably nominate an obscene amount of GBA games that no 388 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:22,039 one's heard of, except maybe like Nicky and Sean GBA. I've heard of 389 00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:26,119 all your weird GBA games. GBA. My favorite well, okay, maybe 390 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:32,599 not. My favorite console I think is the GBA. Wow, we could 391 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,720 we should do like the site's favorite console as well? Yep, I feel 392 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:44,559 like a GameCube actually thinking about Backlar's too, Like it might be the GameCube? 393 00:25:44,839 --> 00:25:48,240 Yep? Did it for sist of that only sold like twenty five million 394 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,599 consoles or whatever it was? Bloy is it? Belove it now? The 395 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:59,480 other game I have listed here on the rundown is Mario Golf. Hey you're 396 00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:03,759 playing? I thought you were playing. You're not excited? Yeah, it's 397 00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:07,440 me playing. Talked you about it last night. I thought you can talk. 398 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,400 It'll be so nice. My friends can play with thee Yeah exactly. 399 00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:18,359 Friends over here, No, this is yeah. I'm playing the the ns 400 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:26,279 O game Boy Color release of Mario Golf. I've been playing Persona three reload 401 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,960 on my roger ally every night as my kind of bed game, and I've 402 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,559 been having a lot of fun that I'm very deep into it, but it 403 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,480 was like I could use a bit of a break, and boy, I 404 00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:37,720 do want to play Mario Golf, you know, because these are the games 405 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,519 that have the fun RPG style story mode. But more important than that, 406 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,160 it's just perfect golf mechanics. It's not too complicated, it has everything you 407 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,839 need. And what's hilarious is like, especially playing that story mode, and 408 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,200 like, even like being quite a bit into it, there's no Mario. 409 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,720 There's there's nothing about it that makes it Mario. It's not like when you're 410 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,880 playing like one of the new ones and there's mushrooms and like flooding blocks that 411 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,799 Lacketsuo's everywhere for a good while. It's just kind of a very straightforward, 412 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:15,200 normal golf game, and I love that about it. I don't know why 413 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:18,279 I have never like, I love golf games. I love Tiger, I 414 00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:21,960 love hotshots, everybody's golf all that stuff. But like, despite my love 415 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,440 of Mario and even like Mario Sports Games. That is the one series I've 416 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,440 never like really spent a lot of time with, like Totsal Tour or any 417 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,559 of the RPG ones. Like I've never really gone into them. And I 418 00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:34,359 love I love Mario. Okay, I just I don't think I've given the 419 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,200 time to any of them. And I don't know why. Uh. I 420 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,000 mean, this one's on NSL. It's worth checking out right now. I 421 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,160 could. You would enjoy it. Yeah, the game one color color and 422 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,519 then the three DS one is probably the other like really good one. But 423 00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:51,799 that's when it had online functional and you can do these awesome tournaments and stuff. 424 00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:53,200 Man, that was so good. Huh. That's great, even though 425 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,920 it's like, yeah, I say, like RPG story mode, it's not 426 00:27:57,039 --> 00:28:02,079 like bow Down in that much or dialogue. It's just like you have a 427 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,160 character, you walk around like a clubhouse and you have to like walk to 428 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,640 the course to start the match, and you you know, when you do 429 00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:10,880 well, you get to like level up your drive. Yeah, you get 430 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,079 experience points to make your golfer a better golfer. And that I mean a 431 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,279 lot of that stuff is in like modern golf games now, but this is 432 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,400 just like makes it feel like a fun little adventure, and it's all about 433 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,400 the golfing. It's not about a bunch of like nonsense that distracts from the 434 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,279 golfing. It's like, no, this is still very much a golf game. 435 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,960 They nailed it right away with that, so thats for fun. We're 436 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,480 super upset with that last Mario Golf time. Among other reasons, that's the 437 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,039 main reason is that they're they always these days talk about, hey, there's 438 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:40,799 a new Mario Sports game, and this one's going to have a single player 439 00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:42,319 game you're going to care about. It's going back to the thing that you 440 00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:45,720 used to used to like. And we play it and it's like, no, 441 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,720 this is also pretty terrible. It doesn't get at the RPG stuff at 442 00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:53,799 all. And then it's actually just these bizarre, annoying, weird mini games 443 00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:56,880 like linked together one after the other. Right, And then I got some 444 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,640 incoming opinions here real quick from Alex Yellow is apparently watching, and he says, 445 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,599 play Mario Golf on the analog. It's amazing and a perfect for it. 446 00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:07,880 Don't do it on switch. It's perfect on analog, says Alex bone 447 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,039 Yellow. That's that's fair too. Yeah, sure, I'm just lazy. 448 00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:15,839 I'm gonna play it on my switch. It's great. I was playing on 449 00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:18,039 the pocket anyway. I just play and the game Boy Advance Mario Golf is 450 00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:22,480 also the same, people, It's Camelot. It's an RBG also also very 451 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,720 good. Yes, it has good Would you say, like, if I 452 00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:26,799 like the look of game Boy Advance games better, should I just go to 453 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:29,880 the If you're more game Boy Advance brained, I just go straight to the 454 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,799 game Boy Advance one then okay vance stor it's called right, Yeah, I 455 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,720 think I would check out the game Boy Color one still first, and then 456 00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:41,720 if you're like, oh, I would enjoy this better if I was on 457 00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:44,200 game Boy Advance, then then go at that point, I just have such 458 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,000 I hold such a torch for those game Boy Color games, you know. 459 00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:51,480 I I acquire that analog pocket off of Alex Bone Yellow, and I haven't 460 00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:56,319 really fired it up. Like, folks, send some recommendation away for some 461 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,839 Mario GBA games. Warware, okay, Warrior Way three on there, get 462 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,440 the Astro Get the Astro Boy game. Yeah, that's a great game. 463 00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:11,279 That's a hot title. You're already good on Tactics advance. Yeah, you 464 00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:21,000 got castle Vania's are incredible. I was. I was pleasantly surprised when I 465 00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:25,240 checked that stuntman on your pocket. The street is amazing. I'm looking at 466 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,519 me. Driving are kind of crazy on there. Yeah, it's pretty good. 467 00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:33,240 There was a popular fire pro that came out at launch. M hm, 468 00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:37,480 the fire Pro. Well, that actually takes us. You boys want 469 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:47,519 to take quick breaking break? Sure? Yep? All right? Pretty goodbye 470 00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:51,720 forever, and then we'll be back with the hot topic of this week, 471 00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:56,160 which is wrestling games. Dan, do we have any bird updates? Oh 472 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,240 my god, I just went inside and I stopped the app. I'm so 473 00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:03,200 sorry. I am off my game. Wow, let's see who do think 474 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,319 it's gonna pop up? First, I'm gonna start recording. I bet Harry 475 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:14,680 Woodpecker. Okay, I'm doing We don't actually don't have to be quiet. 476 00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:17,279 It can't hear us. I would appreciate it. It's a red wing blackbird. 477 00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:22,200 I think I said red ye. It's the okay, folks. This 478 00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:26,319 week's hot topic is the Wrestling Game Hall of Fame, Mount Rushmore, whatever 479 00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:30,039 you want to call it. But before we get to that, before we 480 00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:34,039 get to that I have some urgent news, some semi breaking news. I 481 00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:38,359 don't know if you'll saw this, but Twitch is going to get rid of 482 00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:42,000 the watch along feature. Oh I'm very aware. Yes, Oh they are. 483 00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:47,559 I mean I knew. I knew it was doomed. That's the thing 484 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,279 is, like I used it all the fucking time and it was so much 485 00:31:49,319 --> 00:31:52,240 fun. I love it. And then I would look around, I'd be 486 00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:53,200 like, no one's talking about this, no one's doing it, and I've 487 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,440 been waiting for this to happen. I knew it was gonna happen. But 488 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:05,640 it's April second. I'm gonna do water World to water World get a pop 489 00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:12,240 because well, because I associate with the theme park stage show of course. 490 00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:14,680 Yeah. Well I'm gonna try to get a few in before it goes away 491 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,000 because it really is one of my favorite things. And uh on Twitch and 492 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,519 it sucks. I wish more people use it. It's it seems like a 493 00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:22,359 no brainer too. Amazon owns all these movies. They're trying to push Prime, 494 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,920 They're trying to incorporate the switch, Like made a lot of sense. 495 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,440 There's ways to like fudget and I might I might try to do that in 496 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,680 the future. And because there's like ways of where you can like sink things 497 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,480 at using chrome extensions and stuff. I don't know. I think a lot 498 00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:37,160 about that guy in the water World. He's just like some really salty, 499 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,319 crusted old guy on the bad guy ship who like works in the boiler or 500 00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:45,519 something. And then like at the end of the movie, like a bomb 501 00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:49,119 drops into his room and he looks at it and he just goes, oh, 502 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:55,839 thank God before it kills him, and every he's so relieved that his 503 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:04,160 pathetic likes about that. I think about him constantly, but I bring it 504 00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:10,839 up because maybe we should do a net one more time, one last time. 505 00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:16,119 Yeah, the last song title the last, but we would have to 506 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:22,200 drag someone in that hasn't seen it. Of course we can find or now 507 00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:24,359 Blar has seen it. No no, no, nol seen it, but 508 00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:28,960 I want to hear him be grumpy about it as we watch it. That's 509 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,519 right, he can be on but we also need to have people that have 510 00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:36,640 not seen it. We can find some people has Ben's Oh, I don't 511 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,880 know, if Hanson has seen it. I should have. We should do 512 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,279 it during the day. I'll have Hanson come over and have him watched with 513 00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:45,960 us in person with me. That'd be great. That'd be fantastic that my 514 00:33:46,079 --> 00:33:51,240 next last stand on giant bomb dot com. Everybody, he'sn't as many people 515 00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:52,920 as we can as well. Yeah, god, you'll look at an event 516 00:33:53,319 --> 00:34:00,319 maybe the last time anybody ever watches a net watch. Lungs have not worked 517 00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:01,680 on my phone for months. That's how I knew this was gonna happen. 518 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,480 Every time I h every time I try to look apps phone, Yes, 519 00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:07,960 it would break the app on my phone. And it was like, I'm 520 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,159 like, oh, okay, well we'll fix this. And then I tried 521 00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,239 it again like two weeks or later, and it didn't work. And now 522 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,760 it's been months later, I'm like, yeah, they're they're not supporting this 523 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,599 anymore. That's a that's a shame. Let's just get okay, none of 524 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:22,079 us are on it. We just get backl Our's dad. Yeah so yeah, 525 00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:24,760 sweet Lou totally. Yeah. Yeah, we just give him a microphone, 526 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:30,079 set them a twenty year old butt light. Fantastic, fantas just gonna 527 00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:34,679 be happy. It just sounds like a night for him, folks. I 528 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,920 have a document in front of me ready to add titles to the wrestling game 529 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:43,039 Hall of Fame, and earlier today on Game This Morning's Tam fervently brought up 530 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,199 two titles that he thinks should be added. Now. I was going to 531 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,400 back them up, but then Dan immediately chimed in and said they don't count. 532 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,559 Those two games were deaf Jam Vendetta and then Deaf Jam Fight for New 533 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:57,480 York. Listen, these are both great games. I will not for smirch 534 00:34:57,559 --> 00:35:00,920 the good name of the deaf Jam games. They're hilarious, they are fun, 535 00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:04,760 they're on that Aki engine. It is a glimpse into what could have 536 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,400 been if if Aki kept making actual wrestling games. But they're not wrestling games, 537 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,119 so you could maybe make more of an argument for Bendetta. There's a 538 00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:14,920 ring Fight for New York. You're just fighting and like you know, they're 539 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,960 all backstage of soult type things. Uh I wrestling game, I think it 540 00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:22,519 needs to be. I think it needs to be a licensed to shoot wrestling 541 00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:28,440 game. Hmm, what I mean that could be what we're doing here. 542 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,880 I mean, I'm okay if we're deciding that's what we're doing here. But 543 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,639 if it's like a game like with wrestling in it, I think def Jam 544 00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:37,320 probably does because it might be a line because like, like there's that game 545 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,880 on the GameCube based on that Pure wrestling show that Jeff likes. What is 546 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,599 that? Yeah, Muscle, yeah, Muscle, Yes, I mean is 547 00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:46,840 a wrestling game. So I guess we got to side right now? Is 548 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,960 it Does it have to be licensed w W, f ww E, CW 549 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,960 or can it be anything with ring That wouldn't I mean, Fire Pro Wrestling 550 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,119 wouldn't fall under that, So I don't think it's true. And Fire Pro 551 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:04,320 is pro straight up for wrestling on Saturday Masters, Like, yeah, yeah, 552 00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:07,039 maybe not that strict. How about this? How about this that the 553 00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:10,079 action has to primarily take place in a ring? Yeah, I'm okay with 554 00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:15,079 that. Simpsons Wrestling counts all right, Okay, it counts and def jam 555 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:20,239 vendettas at least? Yeah, okay, is in New York? Fair enough? 556 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,840 Fair enough? Yeah? Okay, okay, okay. So whenever we're 557 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,039 doing Mount Rushmore Act, I try to figure out, like, who's the 558 00:36:27,159 --> 00:36:30,480 Washington Uh, how do you feel about pro pro wrestling for the ne s? 559 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,400 Yeah, it's fine, it's fine, right, yeah. Yeah. 560 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,199 A lot of these, like a lot of these six or eight bit and 561 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,800 sixteen bit wrestling games like some of them would be surprisely good or decent for 562 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,920 the time, and then a lot of them were just completely wacky or wonky 563 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,199 and really like always a disappointment. I mean the ones I started with were 564 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:57,039 raw and raw rumble on the Genesis and Super and like there's gonna be nowhere 565 00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:00,360 near the Mount rushmore like they sucked right now. Yeah, there's like there's 566 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,000 one on the Super Tity like what royal rumble? It's not bad. And 567 00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:06,639 then you have you know, the Midway made arcade game, which is wrestlem 568 00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:07,679 aning of the arcade game. Is that's what you're talking about? Well, 569 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,599 yes, and then that and in your house. They were both arcade and 570 00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:16,840 PlayStation one early PlayStation one, and there were sixteen versions. Yeah, I 571 00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:22,159 don't make it all right. So then the George Washington is WWF no Mercy. 572 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,000 I think it's no mercy. Yeah, so okay, and I guess 573 00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:27,880 my question is, is no mercy sort of just represent all of those N 574 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,599 sixty four hockey games we well, I mean they're also like this, there's 575 00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:37,079 only four spots here about that no mercy. Okay, then let's say one 576 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,199 w F one, so it'll be no mercy instead. Of wrestlmating A two 577 00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:43,239 thousand. But I think World Tour in Revenge could be a different thing, 578 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,440 even though they play the same. Yes, and I trust me like they 579 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:52,039 like to me. Yeahs ISNW Revenge and No Mercy. They are like big 580 00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:55,519 pinnacles. But again, there's four spots here, and there's like half of 581 00:37:55,639 --> 00:38:00,480 them gone in these very similar games might get boiled down to just one of 582 00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:04,840 them being on there, and it might just be an over right. I 583 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,920 think there are other ones that have to be kind of bolded pretty early on 584 00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:12,440 here I think on Here Comes the Pain, I think Here Comes the Pain 585 00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:15,599 has a legitimate chance of being on the Mount Rush Moore, Yes, I 586 00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:19,920 think so too, But may I pause it that I think the SmackDown series, 587 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,079 actually it went on for a while longer, and I think it really 588 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:30,280 peaked with SmackDown versus Raw two thousand and six. The last this was right 589 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,639 when I this is when kind of all the best features were there before it 590 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,880 sort of God became bloated when it went to the three sixty era and they 591 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,119 started just kind of throwing crap in here. This is also just like such 592 00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:44,360 a peak time you have Sena and Batisa on the cover. It was really 593 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:50,000 when it was rebounding pretty big into that ruthless aggression era. There's a personal 594 00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:53,400 bias here. This was the wrestling game that got me back into wrestling. 595 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:58,679 My buddy just brought this over and it had amazing creative features. I think 596 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,159 it was the first one with like a really robust create an entrance. But 597 00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:07,360 this is my no mercy in a lot of ways. I mean, but 598 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,239 there definitely be a SmackDown representation. I think Here Comes the Pain had create 599 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,159 an entrance, I think, but it definitely had I think a create a 600 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,119 move thing. See that's the thing. I once you start all the years 601 00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:22,280 where I wasn't really watching wrestling, which is basically like two until nine, 602 00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:25,239 it all kind of blends together. And I know I was reviewing these games 603 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,480 during the time, but I forget which ones. Like one of them would 604 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,480 do a creative finisher and you could make it like ten fast motion kicks to 605 00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:34,079 the balls and then a stunner or whatever, and some had like a crazy 606 00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:36,320 creative entrance. But it all kind of like, I don't know what your 607 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,559 SBR it is. It's hard to kind of narrow that down. I just 608 00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:43,440 know Here Comes the pain despite me not watching at the time, like that 609 00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:46,159 game was incredible. I mean I think, yeah, here comes the Space 610 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,679 one. I remember pretty well. You're right, it's a bunch of mutch 611 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,480 for SmackDown versus Raw. I would have said, I think two thousand and 612 00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:57,039 seven because that's when they had analog controls for the first time, and I 613 00:39:57,079 --> 00:39:59,360 remember that like checking that out and being like, oh, they actually this 614 00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:01,440 works a litle bit better. But if you guess, I don't think I 615 00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:05,440 played two thousand and six, the ANA controls went a little far from me, 616 00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:08,000 like they put it in everything and clean a worst submission system, like 617 00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:10,280 sure at six, I think it was the last one, just like, 618 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:15,039 yeah, mash buttons for submissions, and then for ever after that they were 619 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:16,719 trying to figure something else out and then they're like, this went back, 620 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,559 I just mash buttons. Actually that yeah, I kind of like how to 621 00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:23,000 do it now where it's like you are mashing buttons, but it'll do the 622 00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:27,880 like switching the like X circle triangle and it'll kind of tug of war back 623 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,199 and forth, Like I like the way to do it they do it now. 624 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,719 I would say it go ahead, Damn no, I was gonna say 625 00:40:32,039 --> 00:40:36,840 real quick, I think in the last at least ten years, I think 626 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,360 the only one worth considering is maybe the most recent one, and even I 627 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,880 don't think that makes it. I don't think two K twenty four makes it 628 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,199 on the mount rushmore. But I think we can almost discount the last ten 629 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:52,280 years. Yeah, yeah, I don't remember anything, any notable thing other 630 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:59,000 than I mean, standing there for like minutes thirty years of WrestleMania in WW 631 00:40:59,159 --> 00:41:02,320 two K fourteen, But I think that's sort of deflated by them them doing 632 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,480 forty years of WrestleMania in this new one. And I just don't think that 633 00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:08,639 fondly of two K fourteen for that reason. And I do think two K 634 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,559 twenty four does that all better than two K fourteen, but I also exactly 635 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,320 it has gotten better, but I still don't think, yeah, anything like 636 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,320 I'm trying to think like twelve. They made a big deal out of revamping 637 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,119 the engine and everything with twelve, and I think that's when I really started 638 00:41:22,159 --> 00:41:25,480 hating the wrestling games, is because like it just felt too like they're trying 639 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,639 to be too semi It's just everyone's going through molasses all the time. A 640 00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:32,920 lot of watching moves play out wacky collision stuff. So I think I'm trying 641 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,960 to think the last time I really was I think the PS two era might 642 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,280 have been the last time it was just like, yeah, these games kick 643 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:44,039 ass. So I was gonna ask if this counts still is in a ring 644 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:49,000 and it is licensed, WW all Stars, it counts, I don't think. 645 00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:52,920 I mean, it's here's the thing. I reviewed that and I was 646 00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:55,039 very excited about that game because it was like I was watching at the time, 647 00:41:55,159 --> 00:42:00,440 I wanted an arcade alternative to the more sim focused thing. It seemed 648 00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:04,559 like they were absolutely going that route. But they're just there's not the content 649 00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:07,440 there. There is not like the actual like action and everything is pretty good, 650 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,599 but there's like the story mode things or whatever are just like a couple 651 00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:14,480 of stupid ladders. There's just the content's not there to play beyond. Like 652 00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:16,360 I reviewed it and I was just done with it, you know. I 653 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,480 think you have to have more of a like you know, even back with 654 00:42:19,559 --> 00:42:22,440 no Mercy and stuff like that, like a real career mode and creation modes 655 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,159 and stuff like that. And All Stars was paper thin. It was like 656 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:30,119 basically two K Battlegrounds level almost of Thinness. That's telling yeah, it definitely. 657 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,320 I like All Stars a lot. It was a ton of fun. 658 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,239 I am kind of surprised as the point, and we never got an All 659 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,840 Stars too that did sort of yeah bump up, yeah yeah. How do 660 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,599 you feel Dan about the GameCube games sort of culminating in a Day of Reckoning 661 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:51,239 two here? So that's the key bler one these on hand, Mike, 662 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:57,559 I was prepared. I have been meaning recently to go back to that because 663 00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:00,599 you know, I love the Deadlock boys and they speak so they they are 664 00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:02,639 the ones that like they could tell you, oh sbr this did this and 665 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,320 this did this, and like the rosters for that, this is what they 666 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,320 do. They're like wrestling game YouTubers. And the way they talk about Day 667 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,599 of Reckoning on the podcast is like they hold it up there with with the 668 00:43:12,679 --> 00:43:15,199 greats. So like, I feel like I have not put enough time in 669 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,519 a Day of Reckoning. And that was an interesting time where PlayStation had SmackDown, 670 00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:22,599 GameCube had Day of Reckoning, and Raw was on Xbox. I owned 671 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,719 Raw, and I remember the thing I liked about that was that you could 672 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,960 like just hold a trigger and run and like free run and whatever direction and 673 00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:31,760 like in the past it was like eight way, you know, like the 674 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,840 Achi engine, just like run forward, down, up, diagonally or whatever. 675 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,719 And being able to run just freely was cool. But that's to say 676 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,480 that day of reckoning I need to play more of I could see it being 677 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,440 a shot at the Mountain Rushmore, but I don't know how much we have 678 00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:51,559 played it. So uh jan uh. One of my big blind spots when 679 00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:57,039 it comes to wrestling games is the entirety of the Fire Pro series M and 680 00:43:57,159 --> 00:44:00,840 I feel like the audience is clamoring for some fire Pro talk and I can't 681 00:44:01,159 --> 00:44:05,840 rightfully. I mean, the one I remember I went back and looked at 682 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,119 this several years ago it was fire Pro Wrestling Returns because I got curious about 683 00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:13,880 the series and was this is the one that always came up as, Oh, 684 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,519 this is the big one. And when I went back to it, 685 00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:19,599 I mostly I watched a lot of YouTube videos and then I played some of 686 00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:22,559 it. The thing that stands out is they have the two D visuals, 687 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,199 and something about the way that things animate and the way the wrestling works is 688 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,079 like really it just snaps into place in a way that I really enjoyed. 689 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,320 And then it has the super super robust, create a wrestler features, creative 690 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,159 match features where you can just do anything, and they had that sense. 691 00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:43,679 The game was you know, on PS two in North America for the first 692 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,960 time with Fire Pro Wrestling Returns. It is I think the wrestling game you 693 00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:53,239 think of outside of the WWE and WCW games first is Fire Pro Wrestling, 694 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:58,079 and I think this is the right Fire Pro Wrestling. I think that's right. 695 00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:00,320 I mean, I remember playing this one the PS two in Returns when 696 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,920 it came out, and what I loved was that it is so different from 697 00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:08,440 all the WD beams that were used to It is so much grapple focus, 698 00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:13,760 right, and you know, because it is sprite, the creative character stuff 699 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,559 can sort of just do more. Right. It's way easier to swap in 700 00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:20,320 and out different face sprites than three D models, so you can just put 701 00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:22,800 everybody in there. It already comes with a giant roster, right, and 702 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,000 sometimes it's just straight up you know Japanese wrestlers, or they're kind of being 703 00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:30,760 cheeky like, oh that's okay, that's obviously supposed to be Halkogan or things 704 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,960 like that. It's an important pillar we're still making these. I think that 705 00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:39,719 there should be fire Pro representation. I have played a fire program. Yeah 706 00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:43,360 we should. We should fire that up, Yeah we should. We should 707 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,280 have a wrestling stream. And there's a curve. There's a difficulty curve. 708 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,199 Right. I probably got hands on it, like when I was working at 709 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,480 funk Land and then GBA one came out, But I think something about it 710 00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:54,320 not being licensed and not having a roster I knew, and then also the 711 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,320 isometric perspective. I think I was like, Okay, people seem to like 712 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,320 this a lot, but like I just I never really play. Yeah, 713 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,119 that's the same exact case for me. Dan. I just did not enjoy 714 00:46:05,199 --> 00:46:08,079 the look of it, but I understand that it's all a very important place 715 00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:13,199 in history. Alex Navara really likes the Fire pros right, yes, yes, 716 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:20,519 definitely any other nominations. Ultimate Muscle, Yes, so, I mean, 717 00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:24,360 listen, I love Ultimate Muscle, especially the one for GameCube Ultimate Ultimate 718 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:30,159 Muscle Legends versus New Generation. It is an acky wrestling game. It's fantastic, 719 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:36,159 The action is great, the characters are a really good time. There's 720 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,960 like light creative wrestler features. Mostly you're just taking parts and piecing them together, 721 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,480 like the head, the body, of the legs, so that's not 722 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,599 super robust. But I think that it's just a really fun party game on 723 00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:52,039 the GameCube with cool wrestling anime characters. And then you go look at that 724 00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:54,199 show, and that show is actually pretty good too. But I don't think 725 00:46:54,480 --> 00:47:01,480 it is a necessarily Mount rushmore worthy because I don't think it's necessarily influential or 726 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,599 the kind of thing that people think of when they think of wrestling games. 727 00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:07,280 First, it's just oh, that's a good deep cut, a good hidden 728 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,639 gym in the wrestling game genre. Let me float a question here. I'm 729 00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:15,599 curious what you think about it because we talked about the Achi games and just 730 00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:20,159 having won, but so much of a wrestling game is playing as the wrestlers 731 00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:22,480 you like and hearing their music and you've got the sets and everything. And 732 00:47:23,039 --> 00:47:27,159 No Mercy very much had that. Like two thousand and one WWF, you 733 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,079 know, like Crazy Roster, you know, played the best out of all 734 00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:35,039 the Achy games. But Revenge, when that came out, that was like 735 00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:37,960 the height of like WCW and like it was just before it all kind of 736 00:47:38,039 --> 00:47:42,159 jumped the shark, you know, it was in all the different factions and 737 00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:45,960 everything broken down. Here's the wolf Pack here was like really cool versions of 738 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,159 all these characters, you know, and all these there. You could be 739 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,440 wolf Packsting, you could be Surfacing, you could be crow Sting had Ravens 740 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,199 Flock, had all these different factions height of WCW type stuff. I put 741 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,760 Revenge right up there with No Mercy. Yeah, as I'm kind of looking 742 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,159 at it, I think there may be is just a world where we do 743 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:07,239 have both No Mercy and Revenge that they are just both so important and they 744 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,400 are kind of like two different sides of the same coin. Of course they're 745 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:14,960 very similar, but even that sort of reflects what was so fun about wrestling 746 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,280 at that time that it was, you know, the Monday Night Wars. 747 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:22,079 We did have these two companies that were obviously very similar but very different. 748 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,000 I definitely could see how it's just aligned both of them in there. Especially, 749 00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:27,880 you know, I'm running, I'm trying to think, like what else 750 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,920 would even be up for consideration this point. Saturday Night slam Masters is fun, 751 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,519 but you know, I don't know if I'm going to put it up 752 00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:38,719 there. It's like an all times of wrestling game. So the conundrum I'm 753 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:44,800 in is I desperately want to nominate def Jam Vendetta because I think it does 754 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,159 a lot of interesting things in terms of controlling and I feel like it has 755 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,559 legitimately held up in terms of how it plays and how it's presented. It 756 00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:58,360 also does a lot of stuff differently when it comes to the world of wrestling, 757 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,119 because it presents like how wrestling would be viewed in like a hip hop 758 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:07,480 street urban atmosphere. And I think it's really sick that you could suplex ludicrous 759 00:49:07,519 --> 00:49:14,800 to the ground in it. But the problem is, I think Fight for 760 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:19,159 New York is such a superior game that, in my head, Vendetta is 761 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:24,760 just lacking in yeah, right, you know all the terms where I feel 762 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,760 like a wrestling game should be measured, and Fight for New York we disqualified 763 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,679 it under these specific set of rules, but we maybe could be a little 764 00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:36,679 bit less strict with that. I do think that if we did get that 765 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,599 gym in there, because against it's Aki, It's like, okay, well, 766 00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:45,320 at that point we can't have we can't have no mercy and revenge a 767 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,039 too Achi limit. Well, but then like if we were to include it 768 00:49:50,519 --> 00:49:52,320 Fight for New York, I think is that is Fight for New York Another 769 00:49:52,360 --> 00:50:00,199 achy Joint. You know, Vendetta is the third one. Weird, Yeah 770 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,880 you icon? We don't think of an icon. Icon was the first time 771 00:50:05,079 --> 00:50:08,239 I have ever gotten legitimately very upset with a game and asked my mom to 772 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,960 turn around and can we go back to game spot so I can turn a 773 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,639 game. Yeah, you had like time it with like the speakers and the 774 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:20,360 beats and stuff. Yet what about what about w WE Crush Shower? It's 775 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,920 kind of disqualified. You say how much you like twist and Metal. Look 776 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,320 you can get rented for seven days. Apparently this stinger says, I am 777 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,599 so happy that game exists. It is a hilarious curiosity Jim Ross yelling about 778 00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:36,639 Undertaker getting the twisty rockets and all that. I didn't play it much when 779 00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:38,079 it came out, and I've gone back to it, and it's just kind 780 00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:42,559 of a funny novelty I think. I don't think it's a great car combat 781 00:50:42,639 --> 00:50:45,280 game, but it's it's so stupid seeing like, okay, what kind of 782 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,880 car would Binoah drive? What kind of car would this guy drive? And 783 00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:51,400 like it's like, oh, okay, I guess yeah. I love the 784 00:50:51,519 --> 00:50:54,559 lare of it. Where Vis McMahon had bought like every TV station, so 785 00:50:54,599 --> 00:50:59,159 he's just desperate for content, so he just Kane has a cooking channel. 786 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,119 Yeah, of course, and that would come true later with the w W 787 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:07,760 network where all those shows were actually happening. Yeah, I U. I 788 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:12,840 think this list is probably gonna end up looking pretty close to WWF No Mercy, 789 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,280 w C wh what was the one you said? Revenge and revenge and 790 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,159 yes, here comes to the pain, and then here comes the pain, 791 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,480 and then I think probably flare Our Pro Wrestling returns. So I take it 792 00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:28,360 my SmackDown versus Raw two thousand and six. Over Here comes the Pain. 793 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,360 Speech didn't move anybody, which did it? Did? It's just like it's 794 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,039 what are we knocked Down? It's about Rushmore and it is definitely the more 795 00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:37,840 iconic of the Spato gase. It's important for a SmackDown game to be on 796 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:43,400 there. Yeah, that's really my point. I guess right. Yeah, 797 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,320 it's gonna stand out there. And we know for sure that like a bunch 798 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,000 of us played the like, whereas I don't specifically remember that. I don't. 799 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,320 I don't doubt anything you say, Mike, I just don't ran playing 800 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,360 it. I do remember playing the soundtrack, by the way, all Timer 801 00:51:54,239 --> 00:52:00,400 six. What about those m Dickey games hilarious? I called you Dicky. 802 00:52:00,159 --> 00:52:05,039 They're they're very very funny, but yeah, funny novelties, I would say, 803 00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:07,719 right, it's like more of an homage to like the no Mercy era 804 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:13,400 of games, right, yeah, yeah, the Dreamcast row Rumble sucked. 805 00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:16,119 You know, it's funny that we haven't even mentioned the acclaim like war Zone 806 00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:19,880 and the attitude stuff, Like I liked him. Like the first time I 807 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,400 ever remember doing a character creator in a video game was the N sixty four 808 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:27,360 AF war Zone, And it's just these games are so fun because like I 809 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,920 took a couple of years off watching like in the mid nineties, and then 810 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,679 I picked up war Zone and like I didn't know who Austin was at the 811 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,960 time, and then like seeing like, wait, why is you know Sean 812 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,880 Michael was saying suck it and wearing green. That's not the Sean Michaels. 813 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,719 I know. I know they'll be like like picking up on like where wrestling 814 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:45,280 is at based on wrestling games I think is really fun. I think Warzone 815 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,280 just never did much for me because I went to it after I had played 816 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,880 like WrestleMania two thousand, the hockey games, and like that point, it 817 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,559 just it seems a little rough. They're not they're not good. I don't 818 00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:55,920 think they make it on here, but like they were very popular at the 819 00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:00,440 time. What about what about some of the weird other company one You've got 820 00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:05,440 the e c W game that was on Dreamcast, another Place game, Oh 821 00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:09,000 yeah, wrestler, don't try this at home. T NA had that Xbox 822 00:53:09,039 --> 00:53:14,360 three sixty game, and I kind of want to play that h aw Fight 823 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:19,480 Forever which virtual wrestling for sixty four or I'm going to make it here Mike's 824 00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:28,480 best friend Jeff Jarrett's game wrestle Quest. Oh yeahs favorite, it's not terrible, 825 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,039 sins Marine. I want to play Impact sometime. I suggest everyone actually 826 00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:37,199 give TNA Slash Impact the chance. Lately. The boys and girls over there 827 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,719 been tearing it up. Are they still in an octagon? No? Six 828 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:45,039 sided? They wished that game? Well, they changed their name back to 829 00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:49,960 TNA, so you know, maybe I wanted to sell people do because apparently 830 00:53:50,039 --> 00:53:52,599 it was like it made for a stiffer ring or something. I don't know. 831 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,960 There's such a weird thing with that Impact game because isn't the thing like 832 00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:58,199 the I don't know if it's the career mode or whatever, but you play 833 00:53:58,199 --> 00:54:01,599 as a character named Suicide that's like a mass wrestler, and it was not 834 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,079 based on a real guy. But then I don't know if it was a 835 00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:07,760 marketing thing in conjunction, but they made was it like Chris Daniels are low 836 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,880 key? It was Daniels, but as a few people, but it was 837 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,400 Daniels for sure, for sure at one point. Yeah, so like he 838 00:54:14,519 --> 00:54:16,920 became it was a work for the game and became a shoot on TNA. 839 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:25,559 Amazing it really all right? Kauzarian was first, what about rumble roses? 840 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,800 Okay, I just wanted to put it up there. It's not a pervert 841 00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:37,960 verse. It doesn't take place in a ring, primarily a game. Yeah 842 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:44,039 too soon, man, just like God, just give it enough legs like 843 00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:47,760 a man. One of the best elbow drops in a game ever. Uh. 844 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,519 Okay, So if we do have no mercy, uh uh, let's 845 00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:57,239 see SmackDown, here comes the pain Fire Pro Wrestling Returns and w g WNW 846 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,400 Revenge. What's the one? You guys are kind of like, that's not 847 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,400 going to make it because I am like I would like to see Ultimate Muscle 848 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,519 on there, but there's just no way I'm going to remove any of those 849 00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:08,159 for alternate Muscle for me, Yeah, for me, it's a Fight for 850 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,119 New York. Yeah, listen, a Fight for New York was eligible, 851 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,840 Jane, I'd be one hundred percent with you. That's one of my favorite 852 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,519 games on the GameCube, a system I love. Yeah. And was it 853 00:55:17,639 --> 00:55:22,559 Vendetta or Fight for New York that was responsible for COVID? Sorry I can't 854 00:55:22,599 --> 00:55:25,480 remember, but they had Fight for New York had the T Mobile sidekick in 855 00:55:25,559 --> 00:55:30,000 it, so it's one of the coolest games of all time. Explain this 856 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,199 joke about the COVID. Okay, So Alex and Vinnie were going to go 857 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,320 play Fight for New York in person and this was like the week that everyone 858 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,480 was like, Oh, maybe you should go home, Maybe you should stay 859 00:55:40,519 --> 00:55:44,719 home. And that was the last in person stream from the website for a 860 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:49,719 good two and a half years. Oh wow, Jesus. So yeah, 861 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,280 gint Bomb East, we should do a mount rushmore games with the sidekick in 862 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,760 it. I'm on a giant Bomb dot com and it turns out was in 863 00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:00,199 Tony Hawk Ride Midnight Club, Los Angeles, skate. It was in the 864 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,719 first skate Yeah, it was Deft Jam for New York. So actually there's 865 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,719 your there's your Mountains Mountain right there. Yeah, I mean, given given 866 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,679 the strict rules that we've put on, I would also like to see Ultimate 867 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,199 Muscle because it's just a batshit game. Yeah, I just can't. I 868 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:21,840 can't abide the character designs. He doesn't me out Asian character in there called 869 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,480 ramen Man. So maybe we shouldn't have it on the list. Now allow 870 00:56:24,599 --> 00:56:29,400 it? Hey, hey, next Jen, I do see I see Nikki 871 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,400 saying can we please play Tony Hawk Ride next week? We have to play 872 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,360 it. I do have the skateboard and the game and a three sixty. 873 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,480 That's interesting to know, Dan, Okay, it's good to know that. 874 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:44,960 Yeah, that it's real bad. I want if he's gonna play most control 875 00:56:45,039 --> 00:56:49,719 game. I'm desperate for him to play the the mech game for CONNECTI Battalions 876 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,079 Bill Battalion from from Software. Let me play the one with the cool controller. 877 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:59,039 I don't want to be the controller. The controller controller's rule. What 878 00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:04,039 do you probably try to get rid of talking about? Yeah, I'm a 879 00:57:04,039 --> 00:57:05,920 little yeah, of course, I'm aloth the side we don't get O six 880 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,440 in there. But that's just such a personal thing. Uh, you know, 881 00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:12,039 the geekub games are very cool. I kind of agree there's no room 882 00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:15,280 for them, and there's not really like a succession line with these like there 883 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,199 is was the SmackDown, so it's more important to get that in there. 884 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,199 But even all those, like I even played what I the first one was 885 00:57:21,199 --> 00:57:24,920 WrestleMania eighteen, and then there's WrestleMania in nineteen, the Day of Reckoning one, 886 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,840 which I don't have yet. Twenty one was terrible? Did twenty one 887 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:34,000 on Xbox? That's like notoriously bad? Was that the famous bad one? 888 00:57:34,159 --> 00:57:36,679 Was? Was it twenty that was the famous bad one? I don't know 889 00:57:36,719 --> 00:57:37,880 if they made a twenty I think twenty one was. I think twenty one 890 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:42,199 doesn't exist because they took a year off. No I thought I reviewed at 891 00:57:42,239 --> 00:57:45,800 the twenty one. I thought they didn't make twenty Let me see here now, 892 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:52,760 Oh, they they made remember twenty one podcast, there's no twenty one. 893 00:57:53,159 --> 00:57:58,840 Marino was saying twenty one had broken online. There's no two K twenty 894 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,360 one not too Oh sorry, wait, we're mixing things up here. I 895 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:08,119 thought you were saying wrestle Mania now two ky one. Okay, now I 896 00:58:08,159 --> 00:58:10,639 get what you're saying to skip that year. Yeah, two K twenty one 897 00:58:10,679 --> 00:58:15,239 doesn't exist. Two K twenty was the like super terrible one wres Yeah, 898 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,559 I'm talking about Original Xbox had a WrestleMania twenty one that was fucking terrible. 899 00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:22,519 Oh I didn't even know that. I thought that. I thought original Xboxes 900 00:58:22,599 --> 00:58:25,239 had Raw and Raw too. Uh No, there's a I want to say, 901 00:58:25,239 --> 00:58:28,639 it's wrestle of twenty one on Xbox. I think I think it was 902 00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:30,840 the first wrestling game I reviewed, and it was fucking awful. I remember. 903 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,840 Okay, well there you go. Man. You know what's another fun 904 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,440 fact about Day of Reckoning is that there's like a weird like alternate universe story 905 00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:42,719 mode that does actually like get followed up in Day of Reckoning too. Is 906 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,840 that the one where you can be like Scott Steiner and you have to blow 907 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,559 up WrestleMania. God, I hope that's true, throwing security guards on the 908 00:58:47,559 --> 00:58:52,000 skyscraper. Yeah cool? Right, Yeah, we should we should play that 909 00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:54,719 game. Yeah, we should play a bunch of these old wrestling games. 910 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:59,960 That should be something we do on the site. Yeah, I will say 911 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,480 I'm not the biggest fan of No Mercy, but I respect it's placing all 912 00:59:02,679 --> 00:59:06,840 the pantheon of history same I actually, I mean just because I was a 913 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,440 fan of WCW, I do prefer the WCW games. You get that on 914 00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:15,480 it. Gentlemen, we've forgotten one very important title actually, and it's a 915 00:59:15,559 --> 00:59:23,480 license game, WWE the Mortals hal thought it for a second. I brought 916 00:59:23,559 --> 00:59:28,000 that game up numerous times when I worked at w dowe be like, because 917 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,400 they would bring me into meetings about the game, something like, hey, 918 00:59:30,679 --> 00:59:31,960 make this, but make it a non mobile game. This was cool as 919 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,719 hell, you should do this, And they had no interest in that. 920 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,519 That's too bad because that was I mean, it kind of is a successor 921 00:59:38,599 --> 00:59:43,719 to those Midway games in some ways. But they really should have just made 922 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,960 a sequel that was on consoles even now, they should do that. It 923 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,000 would rule. You know. What else I pushed for was they canceled the 924 00:59:50,039 --> 00:59:52,360 game called WWE Mania, I think, and there was concept art that came 925 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,840 out. It was Vince McMahon in a mech suit. But it was like 926 00:59:54,880 --> 01:00:00,679 a power It was like a power Stone style like four player, like Apocalypse. 927 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,119 It was an arena Fighter with Wrestlers. It would have been about like 928 01:00:04,239 --> 01:00:07,840 early twenty tens that I got canned. I think maybe it was when THQ 929 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,840 got put under that I got canned. I'm not sure, but yeah, 930 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,679 there's a concept art out there of Mex Sut McMahon and all that stuff. 931 01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:19,360 But that game seemed really cool. But h that's right, Ellian Miracle. 932 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,199 Remember when Daniel Brian was just himself in Immortals. Everyone else is like version 933 01:00:23,239 --> 01:00:28,119 of this guy in a T shirt? Yeah, dude in a T shirt? 934 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,440 Well, unless is there any any other outliers that we're not thinking of 935 01:00:30,679 --> 01:00:34,480 anything we haven't brought up. I feel like we've covered the gamut in terms 936 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,880 of like big titles. Yeah, I feel like, yeah, I feel 937 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,320 like we're doing pretty good here, especially again Mount Rushmore. It's not necessarily 938 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,760 best, even though I think you can maybe argue for it is sort of 939 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:50,280 the most uh emblematic, the most prolific debit. Do you have Betrayal the 940 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,280 one where Stephanie mcmahontt's kidnapped and you have to beat a bunch of dudes up 941 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:57,280 to savor Yeah, that one on that Dragon, Yeah, it is. 942 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,239 It's that it's a game Boy game this Double Dragon? Does she kids shot 943 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:05,360 in the sequel? I don't think so. I do enjoy the recent trajectory 944 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,119 of wrestling games because, like aw Fight Forever, not the best game, 945 01:01:08,159 --> 01:01:12,760 but it had some decent stuff, like some neat ideas in it. Two 946 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,119 K twenty four, Dan like you've you've been pretty hot on it, and 947 01:01:15,239 --> 01:01:20,639 it's it's making improvements. Hopefully we'll get to a place where wrestling games are 948 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:25,079 super fun for everyone. But gentlemen, are we locking this list down? 949 01:01:25,199 --> 01:01:29,639 Yeah, let's lock it in. What's our Mount Rushmore? Janeto our Mount 950 01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:35,119 Rushmore? Jeff grub Is, WWF No Mercy, WWE SmackDown. Here comes 951 01:01:35,159 --> 01:01:40,559 the pain Fire. Pro Wrestling returns in w CWNWO Revenge. That's good. 952 01:01:42,159 --> 01:01:45,119 That's good. That's good. I mean, I can't wait to the third 953 01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:52,280 game where we have to kill Mecha mcmon mcmon, Yeah that floats off that 954 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,480 time too. Well. Folks, thank you for joining us for a lovely 955 01:01:55,599 --> 01:02:00,159 week here at giant bomb dot com. This has been BombCast Revenge. It's 956 01:02:00,159 --> 01:02:05,239 a bunch of very very great videos content have come out on the website, 957 01:02:05,239 --> 01:02:07,719 and I suggest you take your weekend to go watch all of it. You 958 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:12,519 can see Dan in a wig get lost in a void of sorts. If 959 01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:15,280 you missed, you pf go and check that out. We wound up turning 960 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:22,159 it into a cooperative competitive game where we we we helped our boy win big 961 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,559 money. Jeff Grubb is still actively playing it right now. Even that's right. 962 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,119 Go enjoy the weekend. Go listen to birds, use your app, 963 01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:36,079 Go attract birds. Go go just throw loaves of don't don't feed the birds. 964 01:02:36,159 --> 01:02:40,159 Don't feed the birds like the birds. Hoppens a bag, hoppens, 965 01:02:43,199 --> 01:02:50,480 hoppens. I've been, Jenny's been, Jemmy's been, Mike he's been, 966 01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:57,960 Dada. Those are some birds I've about to say, Are there any bird? 967 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,480 The wrestlers I remembered Raven and so Marty's scrol I think still kids and 968 01:03:01,519 --> 01:03:08,000 the red Rooster. Oh, the Goblin curtain. Yeah, the giant bond 969 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,000 brought to you by birds,