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go one by one, but what did you think about We talked about this
last week, how this was the kind of the forbidden season, a season
that wasn't planned but then last minute like, oh well, we're gonna do
more. You know, I had the big finale and there's some issues with
it. It's a shorter season, ten episodes, But what do you think
about the first half of the season. You got to two parters and a
and on a Horseman. M hmm, yeah, I mean coming in obviously,
we all kind of agreed that the ending of last season was so strong,
and it's like, man, I wish this show kind of just ended
there, but of course we got to keep going with this little kind of
epilogue here. And also, yeah, coming in with low expectations from that,
but also just from hearing you Travis talk about it and how this this
season is kind of a lot weaker in the quality and all that, and
so I thought that was an interesting part of it where I expected the animation
to be total garbage. And my experience was that the first four episodes looked
totally fine, and then the fifth episode looked like trash and I don't know
if it's because I watched the first four episodes here on my computer on like
a smaller screen, and then the other one on my you know, big
TV, so I don't know. And then you know, Taylor was over
here in our discord like, oh my gods, the bolt, like this
is the worst animation I've ever seen in my life. I'm like, really,
like, we're talking about the same show here, and he's like,
oh, actually, it's just like this episode. I'm like, Taylor,
when are you're talking about it? You're exaggerated pretty big over here. So
I don't know, but I agree with you on episode five. And once
again, that could just be a TV versus like computer screen sort of thing.
But I guess in terms of like the episodes themselves and the stories of
them, none of them really stand out for me. And I think all
of them have a cool idea or two, but then the execution of it
is just a bit weaker for me, And so we can talk about the
individual elements of that, but yeah, I was. I was generally kind
of bored of these episodes, honestly, and I think that's always a reflection
of when I look at my notes and I just like don't see a whole
lot. I'm like, yeah, I guess there was really not a whole
lot of interesting or funny or good character moments things to talk about with any
of these episodes, honestly, and even like I don't know, like especially
this first two part are definitely felt like that's a one part are written all
over it that you stretched into a two parts. In my opinion, yeah,
I'll quickly go to next. IM pretty much a line of Dylan.
There's one episode I literally have no notes for. It's a combo of they're
boring, and I just don't, like I've said this before, there's a
level of sci fi that I like the X Men to go in the first
two episodes of two parties are like that's way too far from me. Like
we're dealing with concepts that like, yeah, I just I've always said I
like my X Men more with civil rights issues. But if we got to
go to space to fight a phoenix, for sure, I'm down for that.
But we're dealing with some weird wedding planet stuff and like it's it's all
over the map. So yeah, like watching these five, I haven't watched
the other watching these five. It is a reminder of why I'm so excited
for a revival, because I think that hopefully it's at least you know,
as we said, you could just take the last season as an ending note.
But uh yeah, combo of boring and just things that I'm not too
interested in. There's a few one liners here and but yeah, we'll get
to episode five with the animation. I think that's when you start to see
though, oh boy, there is a certain budget cap. They're run out.
But uh, I'm sure we'll have some fun along the way. We
always do, so yeah, I'll take it away. Uh, this is
this is definitely an interesting one. This is definitely an interesting one to get
to because, like like Dylan was saying, like I just only heard really
not great things about this final season, and just from where we ended off
last season, it was just like top tier finale for a show, especially
for the X Men, and I definitely wasn't as bad as I was expecting
it to be, but I feel like just across the board, it was
just like a significant step down from every part of like the previous seasons.
Just character inclusions. There's certain characters that just don't even make an appearance in
here, it's just like, man, this is this is almost like a
like a point five deviation of an X Men show, Like dyl't you mentioned
the word an epilogue, and it feels like like what we took from the
previous seasons, it's just yeah, let's do like a bit of a runoff
like side show and just like you know, let's just do ten episodes and
it'll just be fun and like not attached really to previous seasons because I feel
like there is some things that link to previous then we have to do it.
Let's go. And that's very noticeable from watching these. It's it's not
super atrocious, but I think it's just like very forgettable and it's not gonna
be one of those things where if I talk to people about the show,
it's like, man, that final season, like what a fucking one A
Like some of the decisions they made is just so awful, Like I'll never
be there, but it's just like there's nothing really interesting to talk about.
I I agree. I feel like I was kind of struggling to get through
some of these just because I don't know, I just really wasn't interested in
some of the events that were going on, and there's certain character decisions that
happen on I think it's in like episodes three and four with one of our
favorite characters. I just like couldn't believe some of their decisions. So yes,
so yeah, I think across the board, just significant step down.
But like, I don't know if I'll be thumbs down down in most of
these, I don't know. I guess we'll wait and see what happens there.
But it's I mean, it's bittersweet being at the end of this retro
too. I feel like we've been doing this for I mean, how you
said sixty six episodes. We started last January, Yeah, and we're about
to end right before January, or I think made the first week January.
So we literally this is easily our longest retro as like a group of four
people year retro. So so it's like bittersweet. I'm a little sad it's
coming to an end, but it's also kind of exciting that we're getting like
you know, X Men ninety seven. So yeah, but I'll I think
I'll leave my thoughts there. Yeah, well, the first couple episodes,
I think they were the strongest for me. But yeah, but what Dylan
was alluding to the animation for episode five. It changes, particularly the character's
eyes. It just is like, whoa, there's something different going on here.
But the quality felt like they slapped a bad filter over these episodes in
comparison to the other ones. The other ones felt really clear, good quality.
But yeah, they just felt pixelated, blurry, like they were pulled
out of like back in like maybe like season one era, like even before
they did season one and made it look all nice and fan see, they
just found some old I don't know, some old some old test footage,
yeah, and just and made it live or something like that, the lost
episodes, Yeah, exactly. So that being said, that kind of pulled
me out. Uh. And then that one scene an episode what did I
say it was three? Where no, because it was a two part or
two parts? Four? Yeah? Four, Yeah, that was a two
parter as well. That was a two party. Was the only one that
was a single, right, So yeah, the number four, that one
scene just quick kind of Wolverraine. It just it was a zooming of his
face and he was totally blurry and pixelated. And this is up on like
a big TV. It's like, what the hell this is horrifule. I
just uh, I don't know. It sucks that the show would kind of
come to this kind of conclusion after building up so much. And well,
I definitely my favorite two parter arc of what we saw. It was definitely
the first two. The next two felt really really rushed, but we'll talk
about that. Yeah, It's just it is a shame and I'm hoping that
they get a high note though with the back half of the season. I
hope I turn around you expectations all right? Part one, The FLARINGX Convenient.
I can never say it fail Failings. Yeah, there's in there,
the failing. I didn't say an r failings Part one, Season one,
Season five of Someone the X and are tat by you know who, a
race of techno organic alien seeking to assimilate all of life on Earth. God.
Now the alien Warlock allies with Beast Forge and mister Sinister to prevent this
destruction. Yeah. I don't like this. I don't like this at all.
This is just not like I said. This is way too and I
know something's gonna be like, oh you deal with time travel, with that
multiverse, I know it just all comes down to just strokes for certain folks.
There's certain things that maybe if we're in like a Spider Man twenty twenty
nine scenario and it's like the X Men are there and that's the villain,
but it's just not that interesting. I hate I hate Warlock so much,
so annoying. I just would love to have five minutes with them. He'd
probably kick my ass, but I'd tell him off, like the voice everything.
So I'm just not into that. Yeah, you really are free Warlock.
But no, I love the idea as always, it's a Travis Trope.
I I love that mister Sinser calls his Javier, so it's like it
starts off exciting if there's a new threat, like when mister Sinisor's calling Xavier,
like, man, this is what's going on. Like these guys are
moral enemies, like with the Summer Genies and everything what's happening. But I
even feel like they don't do enough of both two parteris, Like at one
point, Cyclops is just like it's you, Sinister, But like I wanted
more of that kind of back and forth, like we saw last season when
Magneto was on the team and I was like, oh, he's interact with
characters and what should we do. It's like there's like a shock that mister
Sinmasor's there, and then cool and she's like okays, like he's like doing
combo moves. I wanted more back and forth. And there's a great meme
that happens in episode two that I'll talk about. But yeah, so it's
great setup, but just a fine part one. But I'm not a big
fan of this whole. I'm their verse where at least I guess I preferred
Stormfront more. But it's that's not saying much so the the inclusion of mister
Sinister in here, and it almost made me think of like the Lego Star
Wars games when you unlock like like Darth Vader and it's just like he just
pair it up with like Luke and Old and it's just it's just fun and
you don't really think about it because it's just you've beat the game and you
unlock all the characters now and it's just mister Sinister is just like there and
there's no like tension really like Travis you mentioned like the one part that has
tension, which is just between him and Scott, but it's it's like done
in like two seconds and it just it does it like it really doesn't feel
like the same mister Sinister that we've seen throughout the season. So it was
just like I don't think I could ever fully get over that fact that he
was there. And even when he calls Charles, he just sounds like to
fucking weep, Like he doesn't even sound like the same mystery sister, I
see your villain, like not the guy like there's people stronger than him,
of course, but it's just strange, like that's the resort, Like,
yeah, he sounded such a bitch like Charles, I'm really hurting right now,
please, And it's just like they have no re It's like the last
time they were together, like he was trying to help Apocalypse destroy the entire
world and started over. It's not like they like got back together. So
just even that he has his number too, it's like, oh yeah,
cool, but speaking to like the main threat. Yeah, I I really
really was not vibing with uh with just the failings in general. We unintroduced
a warlock later on. I was just so annoyed with his voice. It
reminded me of some like fucking I don't know, magic school bus type character,
which is how like Zane his voice was at certain moments wasn't vibing with
that. Then I realized he was a two parter, and I was just
like, man, this is the first this is the first episode of this
five this five episode string that we're doing. So yeah, it didn't start
very very strong for me. Speaking of the animation, I feel like it
didn't. Yeah, like it wasn't as bad as maybe I was expecting it
to be. For myself, I definitely agree with you guys. At episode
five I think was the worst. But I still notice just like I think,
like the animation of them like moving around, it just seemed a lot
clunkier, or there were certain like shots that they chose that would just like
show like one individual as opposed to trying to like, I don't know,
detailing maybe more of the scenery or just multiple characters in it. I feel
like that was the most noticeable thing for me. But yeah, nothing like
too too atrocious other than just I mean, if you compare it to the
previous season, it's a noticeable step down. But yeah, I got past
that quite quickly, and it was mostly just the story stuff that was bothering
me, or the character things I uh, yeah, the mistage sinister stuff
that you guys mentioned to me, this is like we've always had this in
the show, where yeah, a certain character will just be on vacation for
a few episodes, and like, for example, Rogue and Gambit aren't in
any of these five episodes. But that's like, that's what I wanted more
of in this two parter, was just more characters and more interactions with him,
and and you guys made a good point of how just nonchalant they were
or how quickly they got over the fact that he he was teaming up with
them with the first time, Like that is such a fun idea, but
once again, like the execution of it is is done so poorly, and
I just wish we got to see more of the X Men have conversations with
him. But yeah, instead there's like such a huge focus on of course,
like the main narrative of the episode. And I also don't like that,
like you know, of course it's animated like there the stakes are always
ballooned, but I didn't like how quickly we went to like world ending stakes
after what we just had. Yeah, or just in general with the like
caliber of villain that we had here and how much lacking personality. There was
question on this, like I'm you know how like sometimes at the end of
these episodes they'll have like just a random snippet and there's like no sound,
but they'll just have like a clip of like some other episode or character.
We definitely I saw Warlock in one of those like at some point, and
I don't know if it was season four or season three, I can't remember,
but I remember seeing that freakish guy because how could you forget that face
in one of those those clips. So that makes me curious what you were
saying, Taylor of like test footage stuff, Like I wonder if this was
like a scrap two parter or something they had started working on and they because
they had footage of it at least a season ago. And I don't I
don't know like the release dates of all these things, but there was definitely
something with Warlock that was created in a previous season that, Yeah, I
wonder if they just went to the bottom of the barrel and they couldn't didn't
have time to like build these new stories from scratch, they just went to
maybe this like canceled episode or something. It seems like that and then maybe
they took that canceled episode and split it into two because they needed to fill
out this season here. It definitely has that energy to it. Is there
a way we can figure that out? Because like, yeah, right now
start X men, what happened? Dude? We need to help tell us.
I don't know, sure, I'm sure there's probably some interviews over the
years you could do like a quick Google starts to find out. Probably no
one asking about Warlock being in seasons. Yeah, Like if I ever get
to interview the animated people, I'm like, tell us about Warlocks, so
it's probably not come up. So yeah, all right, well, Taylor,
I want to I want to. I want to hear Taylor's over all
thoughts. Because you liked this two party, or at least it was the
best of the best of the bunch, maybe is a better way to put
it. Yeah, I mean, I totally agree. I think coming off
of a really major climactic finale in the season four, doing something again that's
just world ending like this right off the hop is a little exhausting. It's
like Avengers endgame happens, and right out of the gate we would get like
Kang Die turnals after that, like, I don't know, well, eternals
this world ending. Actually that's a good that's a good one. There's other
ones. There's other one. That's just always one that jumps the mind because
that was like a whole like thing going to destroy earth. You know,
yeah Theyveners had no idea about it. Caps is somewhere, you know.
Yeah, that's a good example. So it's just it is exhausting and just
fatiguing a little bit. But that being said, I just I enjoyed how
creepy it was and it felt very star trek Borg I'll ask a little bit.
And so when you look at the just the freakiness of this, I
can't remember his name, but the one like mutant Hater or whatever he wanted
to like, he joined up with the Felix and he was like his weird
multiple faces and just the way that it assimilated it was very freaky looking.
So I definitely like that design. But yeah, no, I thought it
was hard to kind of follow along because gosh, what is this Sabertooth was
just wrecking shit and just stirring up the pot. And then Jubilee I thought,
okay, so it's gonna be like a Sabertooth centric and Jubilee centric episode,
and then they're fucking out for the rest of it, like really really
quick, and then it changes and transitions over to being focused on Beast and
I love that. For whatever reason, I felt like Wolverine really like regressed
backwards on how on his development because he was just like I need to fucking
get it. I need to get it, like, and I'm not saying
that a perfect relationship, but I felt like he was very much. He
made a lot of headway over the past seasons as a character and composing itself
and like holding himself back. But in this that was just like season one
Wolverine again coincidentally enough, so uh yeah, But the fact that it was
Beast centric, I really appreciate that, him getting out, him just dealing
with things, always being on the run. It was just really cool to
see him kind of handle himself. Yeah, I'm trying to think what else
there was this one. There's more funnier things in episode two. But overall
I thought this was actually pretty okay. But and that's what I was a
little pausitive first, where I said, this last episode, when we do
our predictions, like I don't want any more Wolverine say or two stuff really
like we got like I'm sure they're gonna fight once. I'm fine because it's
a new fan base, so they would expect that, but I don't need
more. We're going back. So even when he started like oh silver Fox,
I was like, oh fuck, Like he like I did this,
so I like that. It was a trick, so first like, oh,
this is cool, Like they kind of make you think, oh it's
old, like same old X Men, and actually no, it's something new.
And then there's something new. I didn't enjoy, but I also enjoyed,
like the whatever that device they had around saber tooth, that like body
like fifty shades of gray sex device to get literally was like all around his
tor so this big cuff. I'm not sure if you guys remember it,
but it was like, yeah it was. It was just a bodycuff instead
of handcuffs, just a body cuff, like forgot like that exactly, but
yeah, I know it was not saber toothed, which was good Wilvering kind
of like I think he figured out pretty quick, you know, whether it's
a smell or the attitude and stuff. But I liked that little fake out
at first, where it looked like just another day at the X Men.
And I will say, I guess I do appreciate that, at least with
the first two. I didn't enjoy them, but they were trying to go
for new stuff. Right, we've done that before where we're like, okay,
we've gone a lot of Apocalypse a Sinister, and I think it was
good where both Apocalypse and Sinister. I want more and Apocalypse will get too.
But like I liked their uses as far as Okay, this is a
new twist, so I appreciate their going for different villains, different arcs,
different characters, but it just didn't overall land with me, so I I
I applaud trying, you know, so like yeah, like like it'd be
worse if we got another Wolverine Sabertooth episode and that just was ship too because
like they didn't do anything and it sucks. At least this thing tried,
but yeah, it was not Sabertooth and h yeah, Wolverine was not doing
too much. He's first too. Yeah, can imagine if it wasn't like
a swapout on Sabertooth and it was like this was the last, like big
Wolverine Sabertooth episode of the show when I feel like the previous version that we
got with the Silver fuck yeah, silver Fox, that was much better than
what they would have been going for here. But yeah, I agree,
it was a nice little fake out there. I was trying to figure out
what the hell was going on. He totally reminded me too. I totally
forgot that when they're at the mansion, and I forget exactly what happens.
But Wolverine's like trying to get to Professor and ju jubilees like Professor's in the
gym, and then it just goes to him on like the fucking like like
man, he gets after it for a guy in a wheelchair, he looks
shredded. He's fine, he's after that world ending event. He's are you
ready? Like he's looking like the most but like him and Colossus need to
have like a muscle off like Wolverine is like like wolver he's like bigger bikes,
feel like they made Xavier or the Sure off like way more tone,
like he like eight abs, his muscles had muscles like he had places that
I don't got places he was just like and I just loved you. He
did like the big like swing and then right on the chair like man like
he's ready to go for the next invasion of the X Mansion. Absolutely,
yeah, Rogue is in there. I to I forgot that. Yeah,
I think she has appearents later on to another episode where you just see her
from the back and I was like, who is that, Like, oh,
it's Rogue and that that was it. So I just like to think
that her and Gambit are like, you know, off having a good time.
That's that's my head cannon, you know, because last week ended,
Yeah, last EPISO, they ended on a more positive note right where I
think they said love or something like that. So this episode too, that
had like the like that scene of her kissing like her ex boyfriend with the
like it was it was a shot from that episode that we watched with like
the lizard Men that like kidnapped Scambit that she kisses in that you're talking about
the opening credits. Right when they're doing the end credits, like the end
credit of this, it literally just shows like a portion of that episode and
I was like, why are they showing this? This is so strange.
He's coming. Yeah, yeah, please listen. X ninety seven writers don't
return back to that storyline. Let him be a boy or alien man,
like if if Rogue's boyfriend shows back up. No, no, No,
You're not going to pass? Is that? Like? You know? Admittedly
I don't paid a lot of attention to those like post credit things, but
I feel like they've always been footage we haven't seen yet. So that was
the first time. Remember this episode, It is a weird one to pick
because it has no relation to this current no yeah episode or anything strange pick
is this the first time we've seen Forge and in the modern era? We've
always seen him in the like days of future past stuff, but I feel
like this is the first time we've seen him in present day. Is like
a little bit of different look. I think, Yes, I think you're
right. Yeah, I think so because I think it's only been time travel
stuff. I don't recall him being a member of the team or in present
day. And plus I think he had longer hair, didn't he when he
afford you maybe a scar or two where he's had, like in his clean
cut look, like his skin was untouched by the set. Makes you wonder,
like, I don't know, is he in these days of future pass?
Things like he would still be here the modern like seems like that would
be a guy you'd want to, you know, get that get attention of,
because he's so good with the tech in the modern era. But maybe
that him I guess maybe Bishop never mentions that when he comes back from It
could be or it could be that sir time travel thing where you don't want
to like you say one thing, it might run a bunch of stuff,
right, it might spook him. But yeah, I think you're right,
though. I think it's just because it Remember it's always Bishop showing back to
his base being like what happened, and you didn't always one labashing away on
the keys, so they might not know. Maybe a Bishop ever pops up
in ninety seven because Bishop's coming back for ninety seven. So and then yeah,
Quicksilver is back again for the Yes, I guess third time, but
second like real time, Uh, we see him here and like once again,
he's such a weekly and I feel like he's just I have such a
I have high standards for how strong Quicksilver is as a mutant. I feel
he always sucks in the show. He's really he's really weak here. He
hasn't he hasn't come into his own yet. He hasn't learned his powers correctly.
I think he just sucks in all media. You got this. Remember
in the X Men movies, he doesn't do much. Last movie, he
broke his leg and was out for the whole movie. Wouldn't tell he's cool
scenes. I'm talking about just him as a mutant, and then they needed
him to get to get Magneto out. Remember was established as like super powerful.
He's just like kind of a lazy like his personality wise, Yeah,
maybe lazy doesn't want to help out, but like power wise, I feel
like, man, that power seems broken, like he's essentially stopping time with
his perspective. If he sucks, you gotta be playing the Grays Grays video
game all the time, but the player is no good. You're not gonna
be discipline. He's to hit the team with Charles, that'll playing some elder
ring or something. You know, like it's not gonna work out. And
then also in MCU first Day as Avenger, the guy fucking dies to guns
to bullets. You know, yeah bullets, those are slow projectiles for a
guy like that. In non comics, he just sucks. I think he
just he just sucks. He wasn't an Avenger though, I mean want he
was that guy. Hawk was like, if you walk out of door,
you're an Avenger. He never got that. That's why they didn't save them.
No, Stark provided them some like new outfits even though they were just
like Nike stuff and like a trench coat that pushed her cleavage up like they
were Avengers gear and stuff, so they were they their Avenger esque, you
know. And he died day one and he's been fight he's never even brought
him back. How much multiverse of his stuff got. Yeah, but yeah,
it did suck that like because I told you guys like, oh,
I don't think they're in here that much going forward, so maybe ninety seven.
So then it started with always kid, I'm like, oh, actually
there is gonna be some quick silver content or magneedle. Nope, it was
just being like maybe there are things to fight for him, my son,
and then that was that was it. We don't really know one where was
his sister too? What what like standing or so that's what it's like I
forgot And I was like, oh right, okay, there really isn't much
conn it. He was just he was just a damsel in distress pretty much
just to be like get make it was looking sick with the big beard jacked
and everything like that, Like, oh man, that scene of him running
into the van and the van morphing and like capturing him. Yeah, that's
embarrassing, Like how'd you get caught? That scene too to react to that
too. I feel like that scene too, was like I don't know if
it was like this for previous Quicksilver appearances, but I definitely jotted this down
to like just the poor animation quality where he just seems so much slower too,
Like I feel like he runs around the corner and then like Beast and
crew are like just running behind him, like it just seems like he got
a head start, but he's going the exact same speed as everyone else.
So it just I don't know, he didn't seem like the like the classic
Quicksilver and then he gets caught right away. So that was that was very
laughable into that whole sequence. I laughed too when Beast is like going to
see Ptro for the first time and then you just have like mister Sinister in
like a trench clat in a trench coat, like so obvious that's mister sinister,
because nobody else fucking looks like this guy. And he like walks up
through the door. It's like why was he there? And then and then
you see him a little bit later. It was quite funny. And we've
established that mister Sinster can shape shift, So why does he just bring a
trench coat over his weird body? Like like you said, like out of
comic books, one of the more like even an X Men him Apocalypse,
like throwing a trench coat on this motherfucker not gonna hide him. But he's
like, oh, yeah, I go, I'll do this, and like
you can change in anybody right now, he can change into the van probably
again. You know, I think that's everything I do on like episode one,
not that I've a whole lot more. Take a look, Yeah,
I talk about Xavier's jacked. Yeah. Bodycuffs. Yeah, that's that's all
I had. Cuffs is your main point? Yeah? No, I'm good.
I'm going with the clean thumb down here, not not like two tip
thumbs down, just one thumb down. I I'll fall sue. I'll bring
in the m fross for this one boys bum down? Yeah frost ye,
So are you guys wrapping up episode one and two because I have one more
note for episode two. Okay, the way you supported it and I made
me think like, oh is it done for episode two talking about that,
we're just skipping episode two. Sorry, yeah, yeah, one thumb up.
Um, I'll yeah, I'll give the thumb down. They're more like
almost close to the middle. But yeah, there's just still not enough for
me to like here. But uh uh. The X Men are attacked by
Flarings Fallings again, a race of techno aliens we know this, seeming to
assimilate the Light. It's literally the first sentence. Okay, Warlock, Beasts
and Ford are trying to help, but they find mcneedle and first sees this
as his chance to watch Mandy go down until he learns his Sunqwake Silver has
been captured. Okay, I messed it up by that was episode two there,
So that's how much episode one bored me. So, which is like,
I don't know starting again with that. Magneto had like a face turn
when he realized Apocalypse was going to destroy everything and now then just being like
he was down to chill and just watch everything get destroyed. It's just like
your son and daughters like what are you doing dude? Like and I felt
like, so this didn't really match with like fella you talk about season four
there was like a little redemption arc for Magneto. He was more and more
becoming good. This just felt like again, oh, back to the old
days and he's bad, but his son will help him. So I didn't
like that, But I liked him getting back in the team. Like I
said, at one moment, him and like sinisters stand by side by side,
you like a combo move, which was cool to see, But uh,
yeah, I don't. I don't have much pauses to say here.
There's lots of fighting of these yellow black technical things and nothing too exciting going
on. So yeah, this wasn't not for me really, Yeah, I
guess I took the like thing is more just like a deep depression than like
a heel turn. Okay, that's the line where he says losing Asteroid M
has made me weary of this life, weary of this endless struggle. Like
that's that's a depressed man right there. That's the guy who's had enough,
who you know, had that moment where he thought his wife was back then
it was like some ghoul in disguise. I don't know. I still don't
know what really is going on with his children, but obviously he cares about
them to some extent. But yeah, I don't know, so I guess
I took it in a bit of a different way, but it was still
This is the same thing for me with with the Mister Sinister stuff, where
I just wanted to see more fun character stuff and spend less time on the
Phalanx stuff. But of course that's like what the narrative of the episode is,
so we spend most of the episode of them fighting these weird these weird
demons and whatnot, instead of getting some cool character moments, which there was
potential there. M hm. I also forgot about this, sorry, Taylor,
just that we mentioned this is like a world anything, but I had
this in my notes here. I totally forgot about that. Like their plan
is actually to take over the whole universe, like everything. It's not just
Earth that they're playing takeovers. This is actually, like I guess, other
than the Dark Phoenix saga, this is like the biggest stakes of the entire
show, which is like I was going to do that too, right,
he was going to reset the universe right in the finale, remember and build
it in my own vision, is it is that universe or is that just
like Earth and stuff? I don't know. I guess it is maybeing that
I think you had that weird time guy talkings. I think it was bigger,
but like, yeah, there's some gray area there, but it's still
it's like another it's a massive event that these guys want to pull off crazy,
you know, Yeah, getting Magneto it caught me by surprise, but
I really enjoyed kind of just them losing uh like assets team members, just
one by one, and so they had to really kind of like pull from
the bottom of the barrel at certain points. And so when mister Sinister just
popped in and his jet came in and and Beast is like, oh,
I guess this. This is the enemy of my enemy is my friend,
and they go and they work with him, Like I thought that was cool.
But then yeah, going to get a magneto was pretty intense, and
I'm glad they kind of had that follow up like after the events of Apocalypse
what he kind of did and how they kind of like create a rift there.
But I'm glad that they commented on that asteroid, and I felt I
was like taken aback because that's why Magneto is in here, and this kind
of like depression because I felt like that was a while ago and he's done
a future hit then yeah, just hit him now. But overall, I
definitely liked this episode more than that first one. I liked seeing the FEALANX
kind of up the ante here and just kind of like get more controlling,
chaotic and then working on like a virus to kind of take him take it
down. And they're extremely lucky that in X Men they always figure out a
way to not it doesn't like kill everyone because most people have been assimilated but
actually reversed into their original state, which they're so fucking lucky that that is
the case because most of like the planet of a good portion of it was
actually taken over and assimilated into this being so very lucky. And one thing
I just got to make sure I shut out here because it fucking made me
laugh when uh. At the end of the episode, so Magneto tells Xavier
that mostly everyone working here as a team was pretty much for self preservation,
and Exaber's like, oh, maybe there's hope or whatever. Not the case.
And then Scott yells out like, mister sinister, where is he?
He turns away. Scott turns away. In the back corner, you see
mister sinister running into frame down an alley yep, getting away. Is that
the meme you're talking about? Yes, cause it's just like where is he?
And then then it literally felt like a parody. But where is he?
And Jean's like, don't worry about him, and just over his shoulder
and the right he's running down the alley you just see his ass and his
cape like like it's just like what, like where was he? Then?
Did he just hear that? When Scott's like, oh, where is he?
And Simons like fuck, I gotta get out of here, Like I
thought he had just left, but no, Sissor had not left at that
moment. He was still around and he was leaving that exactly, like so
oh, oh my god. I imagine kids back then were like LEO,
yeah, weird, that's it. That's it. Else on this, I
feel like I really don't have much my failing. Yeah, all my failings
thoughts like already kind of stid them. For the first part. I feel
like it's just a reoccurring thing for these two episodes. It's like man warlocks
like dialogue, like I don't know, I feel like, yeah, they're
trying to make him feel like an alien and like just talks weird. He's
you know, like my name, he's his celf friend being beast and his
life maate like even or sorry. I think it was actually the first part
or when they give us like the flashback to him and his life mate like
at at like his home world, and it just seems like like a black
and yellow version of just like New York City or something like, Like they
don't really like like put in a lot of effort to make it feel like
alien. It's just like a different shade over like just modern I don't know,
or like maybe futuristic type tech of even like their ship over. Yeah,
their ship was like in the shape of a horse head. It was
just a lot of like weird design choices for the failings that I really really
just was not vibing with and I was even put off of them. His
lifemate they had like go the extra amount to give her like boobs, you
know, I was like why, like because at first I thought they was
like, oh, this fee was like really ahead of it, sounding like
I thought they were going for like both of them being very like gender neutral,
and then we met his life mate. It's like it's like, all
right, we didn't we didn't need that. My favorite thing is to when
Warlock's like to Forge's like could you ship, like find a way to fly
us home? And Ford was just like sure, like he literally just said
shirt like you felt like he he'd went through hell and now Warlock is like
putting this onus on, like you gotta get us home as well too,
And just like Forge's like, fuck, like I don't need to go through
all this, Like I just like I got stuff to do. But he's
a good guy, so he said sure. He just seemed like so uninterested.
Well you can get us home now? Sure? Yeah whatever, So
yeah, uh yeah. That was my last note on this episode, or
much they beat the bad guys. There's some team ups, like we said
both even just having Magneedle and Sinister together on a team that should have been
way more juicy like that that. Like I know, like Dylan you said
the first episode, like, oh of course we put that side for the
story, but that probably should have just been the story. The everything Warlock
failing should have been like smaller and the story should have been like working with
Sinister. And then part two is what is like because I feel like Magniedo
would like have lots of issues doing that if even Scott like man and that's
my way, like you can have Magneto and Scott bond is because they're both
for like the rest of the teams like, well, we gotta work with
them both. These guys like Scott for personal reasons like screw them, and
Magneto just doesn't trust them, so especially because we know, like magneedal's give
me on the team next year. So it would have been cool to like,
oh maybe because there's been times like that in the comic where Scott has
sided with Magneto. So I was hoping, but yeah, just uh,
I guess that's the like trap when you do such huge stakes like that,
like you can't really brush out of the rugs. That's where it probably would
have been better if it was just Warlock and that villain who is coming after
him, and they somehow ended up on Earth and they're hunting each other and
so it's like smaller stakes where there's smash couple buildings, but that's about it.
Yeah, where you can focus on the other side stuff, and that
kind of end up being just like a small little thing to push the story
along. But god damn, when it's the whole universe at stake, I
cares what's going on between mister Sinister and Magneto. Anything else. Thumbs down
for me, Yeah, I'll give them the double double. I don't know
what it's a double for me. I think it has to be like so
offensively bad or like hurt a character, like in a way that I'm like,
man, I hate rogue. Now, that would be like a double
thumbs down for me. But this is just boring. I think it's a
double thumb for me because we have nothing to talk about. And that's the
secret part, Like that's it's such like a phoned in like yeah, we
like we wrote this up, so we got EPSOE Part two right to go.
Like I can't remember who said it, but this was one that should
have just been one episode. They stretched it. So that's why it's saying
I'm giving the double thumb because shouldn't exist. It's just like a a way,
it didn't waste my time. It's still like fun enough, So she
watched with the kids, but yeah, it was not it's not worthy.
It's and now, like I don't think I usually watched season five. I
think there's two episodes in season five I watched when I watched the show,
but yeah, I don't. I think this will be the last time I
ever seen this episode. Are those all in episodes six to ten? Yeah?
Okay, but they're not like ones because it's the last episode are low,
but now they're like slightly higher. One's purely because it's the finale,
and then one's another because it has a cool character in it. That's why.
Okay, I think it's like especially egregious though, thinking back to like
early like Sinister arcs of just like how crazy this villain was, And then
if you would have told me that, like yeah, he pairs up with
the X Men in like season five, it's like, holy fuck, Like
what happens there? What leads to that? That's gonna be crazy? What's
the Scott and Him dynamic gonna be to what we get here? And it's
just incredibly forgettable pathetic. I think that is ridiculous. I'm gonna give it
a thumb and a half down. Not quite the two Thumber. I think
Dylan brought up a good point where like they really have to butcher maybe a
character in order to give me the double thumb, or or bring in mojo
or something for that character that I absolutely despise. Even we mentioned of like
Cyclops and him. You know, he has like that one line where he's
mad at Sincester and then he gets over it. Like even before that,
Gene is like, it's okay, he's working with us this time, Like
she should also be equally pissed. But I don't know, they don't.
They didn't have no idea what to do with that character post Dark Phoenix,
so she just does nothing for the rest of the series. Unfortunately. Yeah,
once I got married, that was kind of it, you know,
like that they had to get to the wedding and then like the episodes that
are centered around a story relating to her, she ends up taking a back
seat somehow. Yeah, I'm interested, So what happens in ninety seven with
them, because I know, like it's like, yeah, I won't say
anything yet, but yeah, I'm gonna go a thumb and a half up.
Oh okay, Storm no joking, Storm Front, the Alien ARCon Oh
no, oh I forgot this Guy's arc on is that ARCon Forget comes to
Earth and beg Storm to return with him to his planet to save it from
chaos, which threatens his people. After much pleading, Storm agrease, but
leaves a clue for the other Egglin of Fall, just like just fucking tell
them not leave a clue, but whatever. Once successful, Storm has proclaimed
the savior throughout the universe, Arkan asks her to marry her or marry him,
which she does do I feel like he kidnaps her more than like actually
persuading her to come with him, because does she literally leave through the portal
like in his arms, like, oh, he'll Stockholm syndrome. I think
that's my issue with these that I don't so I again to sci Fi.
For me, I don't need the X Men on another planet saving a whole
race, like save that for Invincible or something that's not what I need here
say that for I don't even Marvel and DC like that's more of a DC
stuff like save the entire race for me, like DC is like they're more
God's characters and that's where I like that stuff. So I don't love the
I think my issues with this together is Part one is not too bad,
but I think it starts to go really downhill when I compare it to part
two. And I'll just have to say this now because like I can't like
bounce around it. In part two they show all these problems that the plant's
happening, and how bad Arcin is and all these people that are slaves and
everything. In part one, I feel like they barely show any of that
in the way where it just feels like we couldn't pick up on that because
it's not even there, Like it's just like he's a great guy. But
then in part two he's like zapping people and he's like threatening to kill their
family and he'll throw them in the slave He says, you want to go
in the slave pit? Like and he has a slave a nice side.
Guys I don't know, like me did orro not walk by and see,
like what's this pit for? Like, oh, nothing, Like I just
feel like it's such like it's not like it'd be like in get Out if
everything was fine for the first act and then the third act all sudden of
the horror movie. That's what this is. The first episode. I don't
feel like they do nothing other than Woolverroom and being like something's not right here,
but he says it about everybody, so it's not like like I know
he's going back to back, see I told you guys, but it's like
you could say that about fucking I don't know Xavier's mom and he's like,
I don't know about her. So that was my issue where that and I
think it also hurts Storm and made her look like an idiot these two episodes,
like well it like again it's part of something in part two, but
there's a character gets hurt and she's just like, well, they do things
differently here. It's just like no, I So that's my issue where Part
one was fine until Part two happened, and that retroactively hurt part one for
me. So yeah, yeah, I'd like that these episodes had Jubilee though
she was definitely she's definitely upgraded to like she's an X Men now these episodes
she's not no longer training. She's on the Beast and Jubilee are like the
protagonists of this first time. Yes, absolutely so, And I think she
had some good stuff going on here because she was like the she was more
she was smarter to it than Storm, which that's embarrassing when Jubilee is like
I don't know, and so I'm like, no, no, no,
it's all right. They all mean, well, it's like they have a
slave pit, they have a slave pit Storm, But yeah, yeah,
no did I'll pick up with where you dropped it there. I I feel
like for me it was interesting enough to like for part one, like I
was just like curious of what was gonna happen and who this guy was and
what his what his people were going through, and like what the tie to
Storm was, and there really wasn't a tie. He just like knew of
her, so then like wanted to steal her for to save his his planet,
and like she just she just seems like such a dumb character throughout these
these two parts. Like I I get the like the intrigue initially when she
first meets him, like okay, like uh, like even she is like
so distraught with what's going on on her own planet. I'm kind of laughing
about that. But she was just freaking out about the like there's some there's
some power here, like just change it. Like she was just totally freaking
out how to do it alone. I'm okay with that. You know,
it could be a little storm ark, but I just feel like she just
sees his handsome jaw and she just completely forgets all he's jazz. All like
reasoning is just out the door. And it's even like multiplied in part two
because now she's just like a queen. She starts seeing statues of herself and
like they just make her see like she has this like weird god complex that
never really was like brought up in like any other portion of the show.
But now it's like, oh, it's kind a nice. You know.
Arcone's quite nice. They brought up here that they said that Whinning episode one
or two that when they first met her, because of her powers, like
her entire country thought of her as like a god. Right, but they
said, like Xavier and her work together to like walk that back, because
it just sounds like she had a god complex and it was probably very scary
because just like didn't want to get anyone and didn't want anyone to get in
her way, so she would probably not I'm not saying she's threatening people,
but just like thought she's probably better than everyone else, right. And slave
pits, Yeah, she had her own slave pits, but specifically in this
episode, they said, but she worked through that and she was no longer
like that, So it just felt all that a statue goes up and she's
back to supposedly wow she was as a ten year old girl. You know,
it just maybe could happen, but just felt very convenient and like I
was speaking more to like the part two stuff there that was really egregious for
me. But like also just the fact that like she's known this guy for
like what fifteen minutes, probably like maybe an hour max, and she's like,
Okay, I'll marry you and just say goodbye to all my responsibilities back.
Shit, that was something that really like I don't even want to think
about this art for a storm now as a character, like she just totally
seems such an I don't know, it's such a lower tier character now,
like after going through this, especially like we've seen her grow throughout the show
and just go through a lot of big moments that I feel like strengthen her
bond to her x Men responsibilities and the people that she loves in her life,
and it's just she just ready to fucking throw all that out the window
for Arkan and is just like loincloth anywhere. So these last few seasons we
talked about because at one point, when Jeane died and Scotch has fucked he
right off, we said, well, it has to be Storm no matter
what. And I think there's something happened, oh right with the Morolocks between
that and this Storm can no longer lead as well. She is not a
viable option to lead this team. It has to be someone else. Unfortunately,
feels like it might be Jubilee or Beast as we like, I don't
think that's gonna actually happen in the ninety seven. I think it is about
what's gonna happen, like who would be the next in line? It sounds
like it's built around Squad and Storm, but it's like as the show show
and it's like, yeah, Storm on a wim will marry a guy she's
known for a few days because he's jacked and has like a hero complex or
god complex. It's like that was I hated that, And it's like,
yeah, she cannot lead. That's not like terrible. Yeah, I mean
I completely agree with you guys on that stuff. And as you mentioned,
like some of that, I guess she does accept the proposal in this episode,
but it is more episode two where it's like gets pretty egregious with what's
going on there. But other than that, like I was definitely more into
this two parter conceptually, and you know, typically the cosmic stuff isn't my
I don't hate it necessarily, but it's it's not my preferred setting for these
X Men episodes. But I actually kind of liked it here. There was
something about this place that I was very curious about this these these people and
ARCon and what's going on here and some of the some of the stuff,
and like, yeah, definitely, you know, you get the hebgb's an
episode one of like something is off with this place, Like there there's something
weird and and it kept me intrigued. But yeah, I think it the
character stuff with Storm is really what takes it down and Asher to uh.
But I still had a better time with this with this two parter. I
think it was it was more fun. And once again I look at my
notes and like, I have more notes on this episode than those other ones
by far. There's a lot more interesting stuff going on, and you know,
Arcn kind of a fun villain, like he's obviously a horrible human being.
Yeah, but I actually kind of I kind of liked what he was
doing here. He felt something, he felt like, well, something different,
especially from like the cosmic perspective. I feel like a lot of the
Cosmic characters kind of blend in and they all feel the same Aliens multiple arms,
where this guy like almost satility or they're all kind of like the Gennire
same. But he felt kind of different and that it was like, yeah,
we're going back to like what feels like an ancient civilization on this other
weird planet. So there's some cool stuff in there and whatnot. So I
definitely enjoyed this two part or more and you get some like you have some
fun stuff with the other characters. I feel like it's like Cyclops Wolverine Beast
teaming up was a trio really like Jubilee is more kind of hanging out with
Storm in these episodes. But yeah, I definitely liked this two part or
more. This was perfectly fine X Men ninety seven stuff for me. Arkhan
was almost distracted as Xavier as well. You know, he's trying his best,
but yeah, he yeah, he was just he man essentially like he
walked it there going for I like his helmet. It had like two they
weren't wings, but they were just like two flat pieces of metal sticking outside.
It was so weird, but I liked it. It was cool.
I did like the name of his planet too, But the way, especially
the way he said it initially to Storm, I feel like he said it
so differently than every other time that he's like, put him me Chus,
and it's just yeah, I don't know, it's really popped in the mouth,
and like just the overall aesthetic, I feel like I will give you
know, a little bit of a positive there. I do like it's just
very inspired by like ancient Greece, with all like the just all the structures
and everything, and even the name. It sounds pretty Greek as well,
and so that I did like, at least the design of it. If
I'm trying to reach for some positives here the moment this character popped in mass
and is like, oh is that does that thor because the helmet design,
dyl No, I don't think this is yeah, yeah, I think that
they they were they were they were doing something here that I was kind of
I was kind of driving with, you know, this is this is interesting,
But I felt like okay, as a progressed Storm was just completely being
brainwashed, And the second episode really just got quite humorous to some degree.
And when the X Men show up and they just start like fighting and destroying
like these robots and all that stuff, Like, I just felt like like
it just was going one to one hundred. But just Storm in general was
just again maybe it felt a little bit like her character was like season one
era, just like Wolverine was and the Phalanx Part one, Part two kind
of twists, like there's just something going on where I feel like the development
of the characters are not there anymore, and so with her just kind of
being all googly eyed and just going for it. Likes that being said,
we know that Storm has obviously been exhibiting some very weird tendency. She doesn't
want to help these homeless sewer rats of mutants, you just want to share
the food with them. And so now here she is she's leading this like
whole empire and has like the slave pits and stuff. So who knows what
she's doing. It's going on that turning a new leaf here, But yeah,
I think things kind of just got more humorous and that part two.
But again seeing the world was cool here, seeing how this everything kind of
unfolded, and how Arkan was just doing things and just he would be one
way with Storm and then another way with like the servants, just an ass
and all that stuff. Like he'd just backhand to servant girl if he wanted
and just kind of say, oh, you need to like bow down or
don't speak to me or whatever, and then Storm would go up be like,
oh, you can't treat her like that, my love, Like,
oh you wore my heart Storm your I'm s oh no, it's such a
fucking yeah. It just it was weird too, because I feel like,
initially I can't even remember if I'm mixing into the two party here, but
I feel like they very clearly were just like only showing him sus like with
his homies in his war room, and like there's no like it was like
he was just completely two sided and like not even giving it up to like
the viewer to like try and peace out, like oh, this guy is
sketchy, because they give you no evidence of that, Like he seems so
like not your Part one, yeah, no, yeah, part two.
Two minutes in a Part two, he's meeting with like his Illuminati group of
like fuck these people over. It's like, yeah, like I guess it's
like I guess it's a twist, but it's just like it's even generals or
like like oh like because because he's talking about like just murder the X men,
essentially, it's like, oh, those are like the friends of your
love. He's like, well, so be it. Like they're just like
ready to go. And that is so not like anything that he's kind of
shown in initially at least, and I just feel like that's kind of lazy.
I don't know, like it's one thing hiding certain things from a viewer,
but like just to have a completely switch where he feels like a different
character. At least that's the way I took it, so see, and
at least I'm like somewhat fine with him, but it's it's everybody else,
Like at one point in part two, someone's afraid just to give close recommendations.
It's like, how did Storm not pick up on this at all?
Like I guess it's like who knows how long she's been there? But then
that goes into it and they're like three hours yeah, But then and then
that goes into why you marry him, right, So it's like, like,
you can't. It's it's either it's poorly written and what happened in part
one or it just makes Storm look more than an idiot that the whole time
she was there, this stuff was happening, we didn't see it. And
finally just the other X Men get here and they're like, yo, this
is kind of fucked up, like why are you noticing the stuff? And
it is like, well, I feel like Storm is passes. I feel
like this would have been better for like Jubilee a few seasons ago, you
know, like when she's younger, Like, no, she's younger, so
you can do it. Let's say you age up to a legal age.
You know, I'm not trying to get like I'm gonna say no, she's
she's a legal age to marry whatever. She's legal in the stakes and make
it that, Okay, she's young and impressiable. She meets this guy who's
trying to save his planet. You could believe that someone young might fall from
be like, oh, he's a good guy. Storm is a grown ass
woman at this point who's been like a co leader of the X Men for
four seasons now. She should not be falling or blind to this stuff,
you know. So that's where it's like either way, it just for me.
It's like they're trying to make it as a twist, I think,
and just she should know too that the right thing to do would be this
device gets destroyed. But the way she sees it, no, the device
needms to stay. It needs to be causing harm more the harm than good,
and she needs to be the kind of a mediator to the situation.
And she calls it out a little bit, but she just comes to his
charm, I guess, and ends up thinking, Okay, well yeah,
we'll just we'll leave it as this, I'll repair the world, which was
cool. Her repairing the world was super super sweet. How she was able
to stop all like the seasons from damaging are the elements damaging the land?
That was pretty sick. I really like I like the visual of the the
planet that they're on and it has like that like Saturn ring, but it's
just like this energy ring that protects them and you can see it like malfunctioning
that's causing all the weather issues. Like from the sci fi element of it,
I really enjoyed that all that stuff was was pretty uh, pretty compelling.
I loved how like immediately sus he was though about like that whatever they
call it, like the geez what was it? It was like the giant
beacon thing that was like controlling the robots, right, and like the like
I feel like there was like energy crystals in these. It's just so funny
how like immediately Susy is when like anytime someone brings up it's like, well,
maybe like we should turn that off because they can see its Like no,
no, that that's that's not an option. I'd rather murder every man,
women and child before I turn that thing off. Like he doesn't say
that exactly, but like right away it's like, man, some something's going
on with that crystal. And then obviously later on it's he's he's not so
not so subtle. Maybe when when he starts talking about certain things. Yeah,
definitely in this in this first part, you know, since there isn't
really like the conflict hasn't really happened yet other than like storm, you know,
stopping these crazy weather events. Instead, they just have like kind of
generic red robots that are guards in this city. That's who they x make
it to fight. But I actually really like that fight sequence, like Beast
in particular, ripping these things up and he's like, oh yeah, their
equilibrium is off if you knock them over, like whatever he says. But
I just feel like, even still in this show five seasons in Beast,
you know, like violence is the is the last resort for him, and
often he's like the guy in the chair sort of role anyway, So I
feel like we never we don't really see him fight too often, and he
like it doesn't really have powers on them, just like being big and strong.
But I really enjoyed that that sequence of him just fucking up these these
robots. I thought that was a good time. And even more of that
in the part two as well. I think, yeah, he was this
and then obviously the episode coming up, he was getting some action this this
this season. You know, they wanted them out there. So I did
like the robots because I felt like they they if we get Marble Wionce four,
that would be a generic yeah, like that's somebody you bump into.
But and they're like annoying because they have like a certain type attacking Oh god,
this de buff you know, but yeah, anything else for Part one
two I think was Part one we're only in part one. Oh my gosh,
we did. We did have a part two. I did warn I
had to because yeah, I had to, just to make the example because
the first part it's just a it's just a setup. It's a team getting
there. They fight a little bit, but it's just like this guy's great
with Yeah, I'm a middle thought, I'm just ready to move. I'm
thumb out. I'm the I'm middle on this one. The egregious stuff.
I mean, she does accept the proposal, so it's egregious. But the
rest episode is good enough, and uh, it really leads into a part
two where them yeah, fuck storm. So I'm gonna go with one one
simple thumb up. I think I will go a nice soft thumb up as
well. Like it's it's barely there, but it just made it to the
top of the thumb. I think it's just like introducing like the world of
Potomacus or whatever it was. It's just interesting design. There's enough like what's
going on here to to kind of keep me invested, I guess, so
yeah, and then we'll see how I fall off on the next part.
Whenever you say it reminds me of Aracus, Iracus Dune. That would be
our con. Honestly, you'd be totally the bare. Yeah, I'm gonna
give it one thumb up again. I enjoyed it, and it was part
two that kind of went sideways. Okay, speaking of part two, Storm
Front, Part two, Episode four, spectacular, Preparations for Storm's wedding to
Arcron proceed quickly. Meanwhile, the X Men to discover the Arkroon as rufless
Tyrant. I just want to start off here unless you have something that I'll
do it. I want to hear what you Wolverine, Wolverine and co.
They want to go off snooping around, right. They want to see what's
going on with ARCon. So they go to this base. They see the
fleet being assembled, They see everything kind of like all the robots and stuff,
and Wolverine was about to go and fight, but then this where this
rebel year comes up from behind him is like, hey, you don't want
to do that, and like, let's let's go. Let's get out of
here. Mm hmm. So they X Men back down. The robots don't
notice them. They go and then the guy opens fire at a fucking robot
and gives away the position I just found it weird, like why did he
would tell the X Men don't fight, let's go, But then he ends
up shooting, and Wolverine was ready to let this guy's throat because they made
it look like he was shooting at Wolverine just bothered me. The cohesion of
that. Yeah, Wolverine was ready to exeit. You just like slice them
in half. Like, donorry, guys, I got him. Yeah,
it's like when you kill that NPC that you found out later you had to
get the stone to in a question, like, fuck, I can't get
that XP now I killed them, you know. No, he was ready
to execute him on the spot, and I was like, man, this
guy was vital to the rest of the episode. So I really don't know.
I guess he got scared. Maybe he thought that they were gonna sneak
away and then he just he's not a good soldier, so he just got
scared and open fire. But yeah, I didn't they should just had the
robots to notice them. But oh well, I need to ask you guys
about how this fucking transmitter works. I'm so curious about this thing. I
feel like we don't get the full answer. But maybe you guys have a
good concept here, so they we have this like purple crystal transmitter thing.
I was confused if this thing has any sort of mind control capabilities or if
it's simply powering the wrist bracelets that they used to like shock people to get
them to if they do something they don't want them to do and shock them
and then they can say, hey, you know, do what we want
to do, and that's how they keep them in line. But like,
is there any mind control part of it? Or are are the people here,
like are their minds just turned to mush because they've been doing this for
however long, and like because of the enslavement, that's what's turned them this
way, and that's why they're acting so weird and finicky and like they seem
like robots at times, Like what's going on? What are the rules of
this thing? Is there any mind control going on? I took it as
like purely just like that fear factor is what makes is what's making their their
brains such mush, and like they've this is really all they've ever known.
I don't know if they've always been servants to to our COI well, it
sounds like he's been taking them from that other planet. So I really just
took it as like that main like that main computer powering that the robots as
well as the like the Risks bracelets and the they have like a they have
like a neck thing on to Yeah, some of the well some of them.
That's where I was confused too, because some of them have like essentially
like a hood thing over their head with the same like symbol as the risk
right, So I imagine it's connected too. So it's like, are those
ones mind control ones if they have the helmet thing on, or is the
other ones they're just like say mind control, So there must be some some
yeah, because I feel like that maybe would have been the way to go
with this where I know Travis like going to multiverse amountas you don't like how
Wanda's things are, like it's because of mind control and what's going on,
But I feel like that might have been the way to do it with a
storm here where maybe he like gives her this thing as a gift and doesn't
realize but it's like mind controlling her in some way, and it doesn't have
to be like one hundred scent mind control, but just enough for it to
be like a little bit more believable that she accepts this proposal and wants to
live here and leave Earth and the X Men behind. But she never wears
any of that stuff. Like that's as far as we can tell unless the
mind control somehow works like past the devices that are attached to them, those
are those are her true feelings and her true choices. Unfortunately, and at
the end the episode, she's like bawling, right, So I think she
was. She was in love with him and the idea. So no,
I just took it as fear purely, just fear beating down, bullied,
you know, if anyone's for it. It's kind of like a storm where
it's a Stockholm syndrome. Like I said that it's a scene I shouldn't laugh
at. But when they're just playing with the clothes and Jubilee like gets in
the way and I'm so sorry, I'm not gonna don't tell anybody, and
like no, it's my phone, like no, don't do anything. Like
Yeah, that scene too, that was something where they had like some really
questionable animation where the like the the servant lady is like backing up, but
she's going like into like a platform and then she just starts like turning around
and running like right at the platform into the sense that looks like she's like
fucking no clipping through it, and then it just like cuts back to them.
I'm like, man, they did not second guess that scene at all.
They literally just like, yeah, good enough, let's let's keep moving
on. Yeah, and that that moment when yeah, Jubilee just like decks
the server and like that server is knocked out cold, like she just passed
out on the floor, and then jubileeing Storm are laughing. That's where one's
like, is there a my control going, Like this is not how they
should react to this, and they just thought it was funny. But like
this lady is like she's not moving for like ten seconds, she's out cold.
I don't know why they were laughing. That was so weird. Oh
god, Yeah, episode was fine. I we talked it. We talked
talked about it a bit, not like I have other I guess knows things,
but like my overalls just didn't like their veils of the planet arc on
Storm altogether. Now, like I said, it hurt episode one for me,
and like I get what they're trying to do the end of the episode
to show Storm I don't because I just don't even felt like the guy really
loved her, so it had been a different situation too where he did really
love her. And I don't know, it's just none of it was working
here. It's just not like there's all the stuff that was working was unfortunately
unintentionally working in like a so bad and so good sort of way, you
know. So, and like this arc is a two parter, but I
feel like they didn't focus enough to like make me convince that that that storm
would have been swayed by this guy, and like maybe if he would have
been introduced in a previous season and then like we like we we knew that
they kind of had an adventure together, a bit of a bond, and
then he comes back yeah, yeah exactly, and like I don't know,
he's just been lonely working for the X Men, Like she's looking for something
greater, and like she does mention that I think in the first part,
like since I've been a teenager, I've been with the X Men, like
maybe this is like you know, her her saale off and in the sunset
type moment, like just retire from the X Men and lead these people that
are just completely slaved and not having a good time. The public orders awful
across the board. But yeah, we just didn't get enough time with it.
And I think even amongst these two episodes, we could have gotten some
of that, but they just kind of focused in a different direction. I
laughed so hard to when they when arc On in his like yeah Illuminati war
room, he like sends the like the order to just raid this other planet,
and I can't remember it's Storm or do you believe but they just see
these like fucking or like armada like millions of ships just going to like get
more resources and invade this planet. And they're like, oh, what's going
on there? It's like, yeah, just for the party later, like
we're just going to get some wedding guests and yeah, just like resources from
the other Planet's like no, like not once did they even question. It's
like, Okay, that makes sense, and I just really makes it.
Uh. You know, Jubilee, she's young, maybe she would have like
fallen for that, but Storm, come on, like she's she's borderline leader
of the X Men, Like she's gotta be more intelligent than that. And
I've seen her more intelligent than that throughout the show, So that that was
one that really made me think of Storm in a in a lesser light.
Unfortunately. I would love for Exavier to get like the damage report and like
someone sits and okay, they sit down with they said Exavier, and they
just explained, Okay, what happened to the storm out there? Okay,
well for about a day she married this dude. What about those ships?
Did she know? She was just in loveliss? Uh? They knocked this
person on and like laughed about two. There's hundreds of servants and people that
were hurt like around like mind control or not. But she didn't question it
until ju Believe brought it up and she still didn't question it. And uh
yeah, that was the That was the whole thing. Like I just would
love to Exaber to be like what do I do? Like what is the
write up that he gives Storm? You're like, what is what's the danger
room lesson he puts her in? Now? Like I want him to go
inside of her mind to just experience what she was feeling through that, and
he'd be like, I've never seen readings like this before. What is going
on? But then Storm just has to walk in and be like remember that
ship with Moira and the last he's like, yes, never mind, you're
you're cleared, You're cleared. They're all like that's why it really is like
beast like because Gambit and Rogue, you can't like they're more trust right now,
but like Wolverine, Cyclops, Storm Xaer, they've all done their thing
where they run off and they're not trustworthy. Like I haven't seen Jubilee and
Beasts run off. Rogues definitely run off, and Gambit has, but I
feel like they come back a lot quicker, so I feel like it again,
Jubilee or Beasts, they got to be the new fucking leaders x men
because these the rest of these people, and maybe that's why I Magneto's in
next season. You know he's there to straighten some of these people out.
Manager. Yeah they heard about Oral's little like round on this planet. Kay,
get Eric in here, he'll like teach her lesson or sorry he's Magnets
here. He's he's not Eric, he's Magnus. Sorry, right. I
Plus I first saw him though. Storm and Jubilee's wedding outfits really uh really
like that? Yeah, cool good stuff, I'm sure with a banging party
whatever thing they were on their head everything else. It was. It was
great with the Law the X when we saw different looks with them these past
two episodes, you know, like next episode Beasts and Jubilee or like Jubilee
has her hair down, like it's just like we can save that for later.
But oh my god, Oh yeah, I like that. I like
that. We've talked about before. They're always like I get you got to
sell those toys, but they're always in their generic like put them there for
the fights, but when they're not on their fights, don't have Julie Rock
and her massive trench coat or stuff like that, like the same a gam
but why is he always in a big coat like they're Why is Scott never
in regular clothes unless he's going to the bar hating on Dazzler, you know,
like, yeah, let me check my Oh this is upisode I had
no notes for because I was just so deficated. So I'm kind of I
find it funny when again, I think I'm think I'm thinking part one right
now, but when oh no, I think it was part two where Storm
sees Cyclops and Wolverine, and I don't know, it just comes stood out
to me. She's like Cyclops Logan where she's just like on a first base
or first base first name basis with Logan. But then like Cyclops was like,
yeah, no, I don't see him as Scott or anything like,
is that they were married closer with Logan they're married. I was thinking of
that too. Yeah, they're gonna they could potentially still get married. So
yeah, because it is weird, like no one calls Storm by anything other
than Storm. I feel he has called her oral a couple of times,
He's dropped oral on her. Xavier has dropped oral on Storm a couple of
times, like when I met Oro and she was a young woman. I
don't think I recall it. I mean said you're wrong, But yeah,
I feel like the certain characters that never really get the the Yeah, Logan
is like the one exception. I don't know if it just seems weird for
them to say Wolverine over and over again. They still do that at times
too, But also it's like, I know they've been on a team,
and I'm sure it's happened, but I feel like Storm and Cyclops have not
had much like like a duo mission together, Like I feel they don't interact,
you know, I think there are those people at work that like they
just work together and they get along fine, but they're not going out for
a beer afterwards, you know, like the Legs of Lord of the Rings.
Yeah, exactly. They destroyed the ring together, but they never spoke
a word to each other. It's like have the only time I think they've
had a conversation is like when Gene died and Storm would say something cyclops,
but you just don't get it, Like, I think that's the only time
they talked. So yeah, there you go. It's a whole leadership thing,
right. It's awkward because they know one of them is going to take
over for Xavier. So it's like, you know, Scott really wanted to
ARCon. Yeah, no, I think she's doing great on that planet.
He wasn't saying that, right, Stormed just in some fucking sleigh. Well,
Scott, she's like running the x Men, Like, oh no,
Like she's married now, she's a whole new life, you know, Oh
my god. Yeah, a couple other things. So I think Taylor,
you mentioned this when ARCon just like destroys that servers, like knocks her down.
But like I didn't know what was expected of the server in that moment
because they're like standing on this huge I don't know, it's just like the
top of this building, the top of this temple, and it's like it's
a huge open area, and like from where the staircase is where the server
comes up, you have to walk for probably like two or three minutes straight
just to get to him. So it's like, when are you supposed to
kneel to him? Are you supposed kneel when you go up the stories that
stairs and see them the first time when you're ten feet from him? Like,
I didn't understand why he decided, like, oh, now you've stepped
close enough where you disobeyed my command. Like just the logistics of that were
all off. It didn't make any sense. Another wine I really liked was
I think it was like Beast I don't know, I psychopsis there. Wolverine
was there, and they were like watching that guy. He had like that
bucket of water and he was like cleaning the statue or something. Uh,
and they're talking about how I got weird he's acting and Hank Beasts is like,
oh, he looks very concerned, and Wolverine steps up and he's like,
he doesn't look concerned. Hank, he's quaking in his boots, and
it's like, does that not mean the same thing? Like, what do
you talk? I think you guys are talking about the same thing here.
But Wolverine just wanted to like drop some quip for no particular reason. I
get what he means, though, because Concern is looking around, but he's
just like, he's like so scared he can't contain him stuff. But you're
right, it is he didn't work. He was just like, I gotta
get back to work. But his work was like cleaning that statue. But
he just runs off without grabbing his bucket or anything. So I don't know.
I don't know what was going on there. Something something weird. That
was it for me on this one. My quote of this episte that I
really really liked was right after the fleet scene and Wolverine and all and co.
Found that he's up to no good And basically they go to talk to
Storm just before ARCon comes along and they're talking to her and Wren says,
ask your husband, how your cruits is help? It ain't the help ads
or the want ads. Baby. I really just love that. Such a
fucking what a way to just say that they're slaves. It's like that.
I just had the baby on there too. Yeah, very seriously talking about
slaves and he's talking calling Storm baby. It's like, God, logan,
you have some have no tact, but two down, it's like what you
don't talk about hurting a character. This made this took Storm down quite a
few notches for me, and I hope in the five like I don't know
when this ends, but if we're saying ninety seven might be like five years
later, I hope she had some real soul searching in that five years and
the real like never Mayri like talk to like hern Exavier had therapy every week
of like no you can't, Paul Argun you know he's I'm on Olivia song,
like maybe I can fix them, you know. Double double thumbery for
me as well, for the same reasons. Yeah, just down the double
thumber down, double down, double thumbing down. Really hurting my girl,
Aura or whatever her name was. I just discovered today. Name is ro
Or Monroe, Aurora, Aurora, Aurora. I don't think it's Aurora.
I don't think it's Aura. It's Aurora's or or moro Oreo without the I
think it's O R R O or Oh, let me look it up.
Monroe. Wait, no, it's not Monro. Now there's this Travis,
Come, how do I know this? You know there's an A no O
R O R O A what if that last silence? It's not the silent?
And what's your last name? Now? Monroe? Okay, thank you
for you got oor Monroe. You're skipping a syllable, but orro oor Monroe,
Aurora, Aurora. I think we are silent, you know, miss
Monroe. Let's go with Storm, miss Arkin, missus. That's why nobody
calls her anything, but Storm tried and mess it up, saying with Scott.
No one can say Scott like, is it the tea silent? No,
it's just it's an American name. Oh my god, I'm gonna go
with Controversially, I'm just going on with middle middle thumb. Here. Yes,
this Hurtstorm's character, but for me, that already kind of like happened
last season and I was already like Storm, what the hell? And this
just like doubles it. But the thing is, like, this is still
fun episode for me. There's weird, funny movements, there's weird stuff going
on. ARCon is like kind of a fun villain for what's going on here.
Rest of the characters all have some fun stuff. I like the setting
of it, so for me, there's enough positive stuff going on. But
obviously that that character stuff is not good, so it'll end up being a
middle thumb for me, the good old middle thumb. I'm gonna do a
middle thumb for this one, too good alright, last episode of this bunch
of the penultimate episode, Good Timing, Episode five, the Fifth Horseman,
Fabian Cortes kidnaps Jubilee, which I guess like we're jumping to the dye Fabian,
Yeah, silent r Favian Cortes kidnaps Julie because Apocalypse is trapped in the
astral plane and needs a host body. Cortes brings her to a temple,
but Beast comes and rescs use Jubilee and destroys the temple. We're skipping over
so much here. In the end, when Apocalypse comes out of the portal,
he takes over cortez body, transforming it into his form and banishing Cortes
from it. So, yeah, they jumped over a lot because like we'll
get there. Beast and Jubilee are on a mission some stuff happens to Beast.
But this for me definitely was like a like this, this for me
was the best episode of the bunch. But it's not saying much. It's
not some old timer, but I enjoyed the adventure. I like the Julian
Beast combo. I like what Beasts goes through here. I like again where
it just feels like this is a more mature jubilee where we got from season
one, like oh my god, what am I dude? Like? She
like like also she gets kidnapped, but she's leading the way. We got
some cool looks here. So yeah, I enjoyed this episode. Maybe it's
because those other ones were really bad, I enjoyed it more. But I
had a good time with this one. And yeah, Apocalypse is back,
and I don't know if he's been confirmed. I know because Sinister's confirmed for
ninety seven. I don't know if he is, but like I feel like
he's got it, like he's gonna pop up. You know. It's like
I wish that maybe it took more than this almost would have been a great
like episode in ninety seven, I feel because thinking about it, like it's
been five years, Apocalypse has been stuck there and then he gets out,
like, oh shit. But the fact that it's only been four episodes ago,
we don't know what times passed, so that's kind of like a man.
But Apocalypse is there, Like this series go to after Magneto, so
I get it in that aspect, But the over episode, you know,
it was good, there's some good progression Magneto. I feel like Apocalypse is
the primary villain of this series, which is once again surprising to me from
going back to the introduction of the show. Is like Magneto and all his
squad like juggernaut and mystique like face and off that like never happens to no
show, never to any point, And yeah, Magnio ends up spending like
half as much time as a as a good guy, and he does a
bad guy in the show. So yeah, I have to imagine Apocalypse will
come back at some point. Yeah. This this episode, for me,
I feel like it started at a very low and then it got better as
it went on, just purely for the fact of like, man, we're
already going back to Apocalypse, Like I just thought it was such a big
finale, you know, like last season, we're finally putting away this villain,
probably not forever, but at least for a good amount of time.
And then like we have his face in here, like it's not his physical
body. Uh well actually no, yeah, it does end with this physical
transformed like that makes sense with phones. I thought he was gonna be a
host, like taking over the body. He's like, no, I'm I'm
keeping my my same form. But uh no, I just looks like I
can't look like this. I was pleasantly surprised how the ponytail he's not a
ponytail. I was pleasantly surprised with just kind of how this episode went.
I think because it like I wasn't trying to redo some maybe apocalypse stuff that
we did. Well. We got the horsemen sort of again. Uh we're
like horsemen group of all times. They're like the hounds too that they're not
even horsemen, they're just they're just dogs. It's like apocalyps one that wore
and they put applications for new horsemen and One's like, no, dude,
like you got it. Send the Ashyl plane on not becoming a horseman.
You suck so you suck man. Uh do you think his horsemen are with
him? Like in that in that realm where they're just there's somewhere else.
He probably killed them at a rage. He probably ate them. You probably
them keep that form's calls a big boy. He should have stayed in court
as his body to like avoid being seen, and maybe he would eat less
too, but probably I think the big stand up for me here was actually
like the pair up of Jubilee and Beast. I absolutely love just the stuff
that happened with Beasts throughout this episode. It was something that I maybe I'm
kind of surprised that it didn't happen earlier, of just Beast becoming a beast
and that that was kind of fun to see. I did like the design.
They kind of made him a little bit purply too. I was getting
some venom vibes from it. So there's a budget. They didn't have any
blue animation left, so they and man Beast with his like Safari outfit.
That is such a cool design. I want that costume in like the Next
Ultimate Alliance where he's got like the glasses looks like I don't know. He
reminded me of a little bit of Van Helsing. He must be from Faramir's
character in that movie. With his his circular glasses and the hat and everything.
So yeah, good good design there. Uh this, I guess I'm
opposit to you. Guys. This was a very weak episode for me.
Obviously, the animation quality is really bad, but I just I just thought
the story was incredibly boring. I didn't really like the apocalypse stuff. It
also really makes sense to me, which we can talk about later on.
And then I think, you know, the biggest, most damning thing for
me, it's similar to how mister Sinister we get him for that two parter
here, but like we don't really get to see many interactions or what you'd
want to see. Same thing for me here where you get Evil Beast,
you get this giant transformed Beast, but there's absolutely nothing fun that happens with
that once it happens. And partly because there's no like, there's not a
lot of X Men characters in this episode, so you're just not a lot
a whole lot of them to interact. But then also like from the Beast
perspective, I feel like character wise, there isn't really any fun stuff that
we get to do with it. So this is a really really weak episode
for me. For sure. Beast gets to like fight the horsemin right,
he gets to body some of them, so he got that going on.
Yeah, I know, maybe I need more like character characterise. Yeah,
no, there's nothing there character wise. He's just running around like a werewolves.
So yeah, yeah, seeing like Prime Beast Primal Beast was I was
super cool. I really really liked uh and yeah this the eyes the character
eyes as soon as Beast did you believe we're in that vehicle together. There's
something fucking going on there. But it was cool to see them both actually
out in the field just kind of doing this and getting out there doing archaeological
digs. I was driving with that, but just to break what's up?
I guess it's just I'm just trying to think of the grand scheme of like
what's going on in the world with you're an X men and you got time
to go do like digs. But I guess maybe this is their time off,
right, so they get everyone gets a vacation and this is this.
It's like, it's that what Rogan Gammut are doing too. They're just fucking
Eltimore doing digs back in the swamp. Yeah. Yeah, so I think
that this one definitely felt like, Okay, the characters have obviously progressed after
the past few seasons and felt very different from those previous four episodes of the
season five, But uh them bringing in Apocalypse was I feel like, just
too soon. I felt like, Okay, we're gonna bring them back in
because we got the green light to do more episodes and we'll see where this
goes. But we'll just put him back on the on the plate so that
we can pull from him when we need. Uh. I just I was
not excited for Cortes to come back because I fucking hate his voice. I
can't stand it. Every time, like he screams like, ah, that's
that's that's a bad interpretation of it. But the ultimate scream when apocalyps took
over his body half the episode to remember who he was too, I'm like,
God, I know I should know this guy, but I just can't
remember. He's got such a horrendously annoying voice, one of the most annoying
voices I've heard in the X Men's show so far. I wish you had
that as a h Ai voice filter. Yeah, Corte some fine tuning.
What's the funniest part for this or the funniest part in this episode for me
was when Cortes like realized or sorry. Apocalypse is like, but you did
bring me a hoy a host body and he's like what do you mean and
like yeah, and then apocalyps just sucks him up or we're like oh,
like he like, I don't know why he hadn't, Like what was Apocalypse's
plan the whole time? Like was he always why can't he done that sooner?
Why couldn't he just take it over course and test his body at any
points? Like well he was waiting for the planets to align, right,
Like that was like the main hold up. And then he says like,
Cortes, bring me a body, but I feel like plan B is he's
got quartet. I had to be a good body though, right, it
couldn't be one of the sewer rats. But what does it matter because he
just took his own body anyway. Well, then the sewer Now I think
that was Cortes's kind of like ambition because the sewer rats is like, I
I'll do it instead of Jubilee, Right, So he offers himself up,
but the guys like just kicks him down. No, you're just a sewer
rat for the vessel. No, that's unacceptable, and like it does it
doesn't really matter because he just transforms back. It'd be different if like,
okay, Apocalypse is Apocalypse, but he has to be in Cortes body,
Like I get why you don't want to be in Cassidy and or Calban's body,
Like I understand, you know, but and even then I do like
the version of like he truly goes back to the mansion and like Apocalypse is
in her body, like there'd be some fun there. But I guess he
just wants some more minions. So it's like, well, at least I
could have a mini arm winning back. So Cortes was definitely the break glass
option. But sucks for Cortez, you know, just pinned under some raw
can't do anything and just sucked up, you know, now gone forever at
least here. I don't think you ever see him again, Apocalypse or no
Cortes, Yeah, I hope not. I can't stand his fucking voice.
I just thought it was funny his whole transition, like, oh yeah,
you know, I found a new purpose after Asteroid M and all that kind
of jazz and just serving Apocalypse, it's all back to Ashoid M. This
this season. You know that really affected people on people sat on there like
remember ash right, M Jesus, we had a whole astro which was that
season three or four? Remember now I feel like it was three. Is
that at the beginning of four or the end of three? Let me pull
up I still hat the episodes here, so I'll find out. Yeah,
because it just feels like it's interesting that we're doing with the repercussions of that
now when it seemed to happen like a long time ago at this point,
but especially like the uh opening of this episode. So we have the like
the hounds chasing, which I believe is that war Path. Is that the
character's name? Well, I don't think it's got four four? Season four
is when m happened at the beginning, So because what was the name of
that mutant that they're chasing in the beginning in a war path? What's his
name? I don't know. I thought it was war Path because I just
recognized maybe I think of a different character. I'll pull it up after.
But yeah, first split second, I like I knew the animation was different,
but first split second I thought that they actually completely redesigned and like,
uh, what was the name Caliban, that character. I thought this was
the new design for like Apocalypse here, and I'm like, what are they
doing? This is so strange because especially like I had they had like yeah,
when he's big Mode, I'm like, okay, that's kind of interesting,
and like I think we had about four characters that could have been his
four horsemen. They got like team outfits. Now it's just you know,
it's it's it's answered pretty early on but first book. Second, I'm like,
man, they they are really just just switching things up and we just
have Apocalypse here with a fully physical body. But yeah, yeah, like
the little version, I was like, yeah, they really did them dirty.
Then do you feel like they, like the Beast and Jubilee, Like
I feel like they kind of were able to deduce what was going on,
especially Jubilee go back and check, like hey, the most powerful fucked up
villain might have come back here, like we just maybe should go clear the
debris and make sure everything's okay. I don't know, it just seems like,
oh, we're out, you know, we did our job. They
were attacked too far after though, right, Like maybe they would have had
that thought, but I guess that's why they're not leading the team there.
Yeah, but I, like I said, did like Jubile ship the straight
air. They both had beasts, had that jacket, they both had their
digs going on. That was cool. I was good fuse for the first
five minutes of this episode because Jubilee, her hair, her face looked completely
different. I swear, like even her skin color like was different. She
and so I like, I had this note written. At first, I
was like, who is this character? Like, why do they have Jubilee's
voice actor? What sounds like her doing this character? I'm like, who
is this? So it literally took me a few minutes to realize that was
Jubilee. It was so so freaking confused by that. SO didn't Yeah,
I didn't like it. There's a lot of shiny skin. There's a lot
of stuff where like Julie's skin was a certain color, but then her lips
wore a different color, like not like because it was like her eyes and
stuff like Taylor, Like, she just looked completely different. So weird.
She's grown, She's a growing girl, you know, she's now a young
woman promising on This is what she looks like for the rest of the series.
I thought it was like a flashback to back in the day, like
working with some other person. And I'm like, Okay, I guess they
got the same voice actor because they do that all in animated shows. But
yeah, I know, I think she looked she's gonna look exactly like this
in ninety seven. I you know, at least she had some different outfits.
But yeah, I like them together. They're a good little Cambo.
They're very good, like almost fall their daughter sort of you know, relationship
in a way, not deep that way, but just you know, I
like what they are doing there, and I feel like they're at least like
issues of people. Yes, yeah, but yeah, I didn't care for
these four horsemen. I don't like. I prefer the horsemen when they're not
all like a generic one color like this just looks like a squad of goons.
You know. There wasn't much I did like the idea of because I
feel like when we had angel and stuff, they turned them. But I
did like the idea of Cortez, just like I'll take the powers away.
Like I like that he was always a threat, like he kept hanging that
over them or I feel like they didn't happen much with Apocalypse. When he
was running things felt like they're always powerful, and then when the battles over
me, they went back. But I like this, like you'll go back
to what you were. And for Calban, you know, he views himself
as like a pathetic individual, so I liked that dynamic of okay, there's
a power struggle. But yeah, the fights were much and I did like
him like making beasts an Apocalypse or a horseman there for a second, seeing
what he would be like, and yeah, I would have loved to see
him beasts like ope against Hulk or something, because he got massive lots of
hair going on. He was rabbit. But at least you know that teacher
or that that picture best teacher ever. The mug with the picture got him,
that brought him back, you know. So that's good. Nothing else
for me, Sorry, let me check my notes. I just said lighting
and visuals were really bad, and I like Julian Beast's fit. That's what
I said, So reaching for a positive, I I do like the idea
of just these like temples I guess throughout the world that are just like worshiping
Apocalypse and kind of what he is, and they painting those people and everything
too, so yeah, and like even when they have Hank kind of translating
like some of the scripture, he's like, this temple is should be in
the end of the world, and then he's like, oh, wait,
no, it's not to the end of the world. It's two apocalypse,
which you know that that also could mean the end of the world. But
I like that realization that it's like, no, this is specifically for apocalypse,
So that was kind of fun and just thinking that there's these kind of
cults, like throughout the world that are just wanting this this character, this
this godlike character coming back that that was kind of fun. But I think
some of the execution here was was lacking anything. Taylor, No, that's
pretty much it. Thumbs down for me and Frost thumbs down. I'll give
it. I'll give it the one thumb. I enjoyed it enough one thumb.
I'll do another thumb up. I'm going middle thumb, middle thumb.
There you ol Asia, and we have done the penultimate episode, probably on
the shorter ones, but that's okay because you know we got lots coming next
week or next time you listen to this. Uh, last five romos.
There five to go, so it's gonna be a good time. So until
the rogue shows up. I want to see some more rogue. There's rogue
in one episode. You got at least one more, so you got that
going on, maybe two. So in the gym again with Charles, Yeah,
just just how can I get a shocked as you? It? Still
yeah still just will we won't wait and stuff, but yes, until next
time, well they'll be boring.