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Yet. Hey, good afternoon, everybody.

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Welcome to RYE on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm

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Steve Rivera. Hey's Jagan's Alas.
Got a guy Kevin in for the week

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or the day. I hope you
guys remember who we are. We're actually

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here. We are. We're here
like one day in a row. We're

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not done yet for about two minutes
in a row. Welcome back, everybody,

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and I hope we're listening. We're
here, We're here. Hope you're

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back. I hope everybody's back.
I know we've been missed a lot of

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airtime over the last few weeks.
Steve more than me because I've been here.

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I was here for a couple of
weeks, just you know, flailing

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away while Steve was running around.
Where were you in Salt Lake City and

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then you went in La? Yeah, well we were in Vegas together with

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that was then then and then saw
Lake La Glendale for the final four and

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then again back in scott still for
something else. I'm tired. I'm tired,

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but I'm here. I'm tired,
but I'm here. There's a lot

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of stuff going on, a lot
of movement. We might take some of

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your thunder away, Kevin, because
of all the movement there going fo Yeah,

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a lot of basketball and Newsy stuff
happening, you know, with basketball

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and football over a lot of you
know, a lot of personnel stuff to

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talk about. Yeah, I was
a bit surprised if you if you remember

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the names for football. Uh.
Here we are midway through the spring practices,

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right, I think in two weeks
we have the spring game, or

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less than two weeks now. Yeah, and and two people, two people

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are jumping ship, at least two
people. Yeah, the big guys,

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Bill Norton. Yeah, and who's
the other one, George Joe Borjon you

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guys, he thought, I mean
Bill Norton, you know, at the

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after last season announces yeah, I'm
staying. And then he's now going into

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the portals. So who knows what
what happens there? And everyone's pointing in

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the direction that we probably think,
right, well, everybody's gonna always assume

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that any type of guy you know, go somewhere and it happens. I

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mean, are you are you concerned
or or anything. I don't think there's

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a reason. You know what,
if a guy leaves, you go out

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and get another guy, because you
know what, there's a guy just as

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good as Bill Norton in the portal
that might come there. And you hope

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so at least you hope so well
yeah, yeah, and like to borrow

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a phrase from you, if you
don't want to be here, well there's

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the door rather than not be here. Yeah. And there's two two key

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guys though, I think two guys
on Barson's and offensive Lineman, right,

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for whatever reason. And then and
then Bill Norton was really a you know,

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a big part of the defense last
year, you know, plugging up

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the middle. But you know,
you can make a lot of assumptions about

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you know, what you're looking at, why they're thinking, either they're leaving,

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all that kind of stuff. But
you just you just go, okay,

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fine, you know, and you
move on and go and go go

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replace them someone. Yeah, that's
the whole thing. Just move on and

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see what happens after. So there's
that, and I'm sure there will be

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more. I'm kind of reading there
might be more and then basketball not a

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surprise, Kylan Basseball going back home
to Illinois, which is probably a good

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fit. I don't know if it's
a good fit, but at least personally,

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I think it's a good fit.
Yeah. Well, you know what,

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if you ever, if you had
asked me where was Kylin Boswell from,

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that wouldn't have had for you.
Really. I didn't. Well,

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you just knew that he was seventeen
and eighteen. Yeah, I knew that

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he was. Yeah, I just
knew his age, and I knew that

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he was here. I didn't know
where he came from. And so when

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he said Illinois, I'm like okay. And then I saw these things that

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he was going back home, and
I'm like, oh, okay, he's

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actually from where the university is,
right, He's actually from Champagne. So

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good luck for him. I don't
wan to him. We may or may

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not know his personal life, but
it's been out there kind of Yeah.

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That's the one thing I don't like
about Facebook or whatever. And you know,

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I mean, Steve, I think
we said that it was gonna be

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hard for him to be here.
The fans really kind of blamed him for

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a lot of what went wrong last
year, for those for those who feel

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it did go wrong, and uh, and you know he got you know,

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he took the beating, not to
the same degree, but in the

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neighborhood that that Kirk Crisa. Did
you know the one thing that anybody who

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says they know these kids, uh, that's in our job. They're lying

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to you. They don't know.
We get to speak to him at length

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and during the tournament get it,
and we don't get enough. So I

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didn't realize how well spoken he was. I had a chance to spend some

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time with him in Vegas and on
the right and very thoughtful, thinking,

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very very mature kind of guy,
very exactly. But I'm thinking I didn't

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expect this because I don't really We
didn't get to interview him a whole heck

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of a lot after games and well
all of them, you know, no,

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you never, I mean unless they
brought him to the to the to

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the press conference, you didn't get
to talk to him. And they did

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for him, but not at length, you know, maybe three four minutes

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here and there. And I thought, oh, he's he's pretty good,

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he's insightful, and now he's gone
and and another one another one. We

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won't know at the end of the
he's gone. How how well do we

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really know Humarbala and he is here
a while we don't. And guess what,

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of all the guys that have come
through, I think he's the more

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the most popular, right, of
all the ones that have come through.

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Tommy Well, I think his story
was great in that, you know,

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he came with Tommy. He really
wasn't getting the chance that you know,

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he had hoped Ford Gonzaga. He
came here, made the most of it,

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got really good. Was a key
to you know, how good Arizona

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was, you know, the last
couple of years. And so I think

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that's what people love. Nobody's blaming
him or the fact that he missed six

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free throws against Cus, you know, I mean it was just like Umarballo.

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You know, he was a good
guy. He was a good soldier.

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They liked him here and and he
and he and he did a really

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good job and and they I think
the miss free throws kind of endeared him

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to the fans because they're kind of
like rooting for him. Make a free

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throw, make a free Are you
are you both of you guys? Are

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you Sadden's I are you whatever about
him leaving? What are you We've we

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probably already talked about him already,
but he's probably gonna go see somewhere east

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obviously. No, he's already Indiana
or North Carolina. I think he's got

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that. I thought he said Indiana. No, No, that's not a

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final. He has other schools too, So so you're okay with it or

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another guy. I'm okay with anybody
leaving. I think we've talked about because

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this happened two two weeks ago or
whatever it was, and there's guys behind

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him. Look, there's guys behind
him coming up, right, And you

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don't know what's going on in the
coaches office. No, right, you

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don't know his his postseason conversation with
Tommy Lloyd, what Tommy said to him.

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We don't know that. And we're
never going to know that unless unless

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one of them comes out and says
what it is, because they're probably the

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only two guys in the room,
and unless one of them decides, you

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know, if if Umar gets to
Indiana and gets and says, yeah,

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well I knew that. I you
know, Tommy wasn't he was done with

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me at Arizona that's the only way
we're going to know that. So,

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you know, not knowing that,
how can we sit here and say Umar

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you're you're you're you're dumb for leaving, or Umar you know you should have

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stayed, or Umar this we don't
know and and and you know, those

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those conversations are private with between coaching
player, and whatever comes out of that,

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they they make the decision that's best
for them. One are the things

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that I saw that I thought was
funny, just what the post was.

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Some guys said, oh, he's
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thinking that Indiana is not the same
program that Arizona is. And I'm thinking,

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do you not pay attention? Do
you not pay attention? Indiana may

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not be Arizona today, but Arizona
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I mean not even comparatively, not
even close. Well, well again,

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Steve, it's it's a matter of
these programs change in a heartbeat, right.

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Uh. You can be great one
year and you're not very good the

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next year. You know, look
look at what you know, what's going

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on over at Kentucky. You know, it's just like uh, you know,

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to Kentucky Standard it's not even close, not even close, right,

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you know Arkansas was you know,
went deep into the tournament two years ago

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and then their coach left after this
year. Well, let's let's go to

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Arizona. Let's go to Arizona because
we can do this and do so.

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When was the last time, When
was the last time, Jay, that

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Arizona lived up to its so called
internal reputation and I'm talking internal from the

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fans. Well, I think I
think the two lead eights under the last

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two lead ates under Sean mill and
that's what exactly eight years ago I was

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hoping you were being nine years ago, nine years ago. Yeah, yeah,

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I mean you know, Sean obviously
after that never got to where you

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thought his team should get to,
particularly that twenty seventeen team that or twenty

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eighteen team that just kind of you
know, kind of well, and the

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seventeen team yeah at yeah, the
sweet sixteen. Yeah, so you have

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to go back to those elite eights, which I guess in a way says

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that that's the expectation here least at
least get to the lead A and then

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get to a final four. Yeah. Now, and then because when you

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think about you know, those loot
years lout went in eighty eight, ninety

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four, ninety seven, two thousand
and one, no more than a four

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year gap in twenty five. Actually
there was a six year gap between eighty

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eight and ninety four. But you
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that in that period of time,
and they haven't been there since then.

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I think the expectation becomes here maybe
once every four or five years to get

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into the final four. Yeah.
Well and they haven't and they have it

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and they have and that standard has
been washed down there. I mean they

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had you know, Sean had three
lead eights, but you know, well

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one was a surprise, but then
the other two, you know, that

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was you know, they there was
a thing they should have gone in to

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the final four. But I think
I think Elite eight becomes a sort of

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a baseline. Yeah, and let
me tell you, Jay, it's not

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their fault. Wisconsin was damn good. Yeah. Sometimes you run in to

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do a team that's better than you
at the matchup, and in Wisconsin was

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both times. Yeah, So you
know, I mean that's that's kind of

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where where it winds up. And
so you know, you uh do you

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do you find uh do you find
yourself being uh with your group, your

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grade ten on Wednesdays or whatever,
is being more of a sensible guy with

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them to tell them come down.
It's come down. Not calm down.

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It's the world's out or the houses
on fire, but calm down. Arizona.

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Is this It's not what you think
it is this. Oh god,

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this is what the world has come
to. And I'm okay with that because

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you spent a lot of time with
me in this room. So but but

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you reason so because they are what
unrealistic or just overgunned. They just get

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angry, over zealous, Yeah,
they get they get angry. They should

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be able to do this. And
I'm like, there's a lot of teams

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like Arizona exactly. And and when
year to year it comes down to yes

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to you, year year comes down
to being good enough, but then also

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being lucky with your matchups. When
you get into March, sure, right,

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and you play a team that either
has a bad you know, has

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a bad game, or you play
out of your you know what that day,

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or maybe instead of playing the two
seed, you're playing a seven seed.

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You know, those kinds of things
are the things that have to happen

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unless you're a dominant team like Yukon
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wipe out anybody they played, and
they did. Arizona never never had that

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team that just walks on the court
and the other team doesn't have a chance.

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Sometimes you pull out North Carolina State
from your backside and you get to

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it there. And then remember when
Chase Buddinger and those guys got to the

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Sweet sixteen sixteen and that was kind
of by But what happened there, right,

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They didn't play they played in the
second round. They were playing a

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team that had upset a higher seed
in the first round, right matchups,

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So you know, you get lucky
like that sometimes. Now, look Arizona

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the ninety seven championship team. Yeah
they went to be three number one seeds.

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They just got on a roll.
There wasn't any luck with who they

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matched up with. They just got
on a roll and they had the talent,

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as it turned out, to go
and win that tournament, which led

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you to believe that they didn't use
that talent throughout the year, right right,

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Well yeah, where was that talent
all year long? When they finished

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in fifth place in the Pac ten
that year? But that's just the way

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that is I wanted to just bring
that up because of fandom is kind of

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well, we know this, it's
you know, but getting back to the

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initial part of this conversation is that
you know, whether it's football or basketball

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or wherever, guys leave, you
go get new guys and you try and

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pull that together. And you shouldn't
be offended or insulted if somebody leaves your

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program, because you're just gonna go
out and get another guy. Anyways,

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and there's so many factors. Maybe
tomorrow we get the nil guys because I

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heard numbers on the internet, which
of course doesn't mean it's true being valued

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about for the for the international players, and we already know that that's not

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possible because they have some obligations or
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see if if some of the numbers
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they would have to do to make
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running because of the money. Not
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of cases, it's you know,
the coach. A lot of cases,

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it's the opportunity here versus an opportunity
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but it's just the ni L is
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a mat a factory. And maybe
it is not an invisible factor but an

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incorrect assumption factor where people always going
for the money as simple as simple as

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that. It's not always that.
It's not always I do that. I

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mean I said my first Okay,
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leaves, not in the case of
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case of Umar's I guess maybe not
always, but when guys, you see

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guys, when guys leave a good
situation to go to another situation, like

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a Bill Norton. Okay, he's
in a good situation, he's starting,

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he's on a good team that can
be really good in the Big twelve next

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year, and he's looking and he's
looking to leave. Well, that tells

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me that there's something beyond the opportunity
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with a different coaching, different coaching
staff. Yeah, exactly. You know,

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sometimes the pretty girl is he was
gonna leave. I'm surprised he didn't

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leave, right, Well, maybe
he just wanted less unless in the in

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that time something's been put together for
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that maybe the new situation is not
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sometimes there are no answers to questions. Okay, all right, let's get

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to the guests real quick. All
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included in the States Arizona Sports Hall
of Fame with a few other people from

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from the right, Terry Francona,
Terry Kendall, Richard Jefferson, I'll put

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in there. So we're going to
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some of his thoughts on just his
time here, and I mean he's the

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local kids, sort of went to
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long run believable, unbelievable. And
then we're going to talk to Steve Potkin,

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the head coach of the Tucson Roadrunners. They're in the playoffs they start

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Wednesday, so that's the main thing
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a whole lot of stuff going on
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Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome
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I'm Steve Rivera. He Jacinsaws fell
on the phone we have of the

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Aronman the new member. You one
of the newest members of the Arizona Sports

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Hall of Fame. How are you
upd I think we're already having a bad

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connection. Can you hear us?
Okay? Yes, I can hear you.

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Okay, that's better. How does
it feel to be a new member

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of the Hall of Fame? You
know, it's amazing. Is it's amazing

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actually and whish meant and also just
being recognized as an Arizona and what I

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have done throughout my career. I
was just so thankful when you when you

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began your your your your career as
a runner. How how far did you

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think you would get with it?
I mean did you even think about it

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like that or did you just take
a step by step? How did you

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approach sort of long term what you
wanted to do with your with your running

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career? I you know, to
be honest, I'll give it to crezits

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to my coach of Dave Murray as
a former University of Arizona coach. You

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know, I never thought I was
going to get to this point in my

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career and become a Hall of Famer
instead of Arizona Ti, MA County U

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of a team of community college.
You know, just like we take one

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year out of time and I'm still
running and I'm also you know, just

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I just want to say thanks to
Coach Murray. Actually he's the one who

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guard me this this u to this
career. So this little little skinny kid

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too so high, had no idea
that is going to happen. Right,

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I never thought I was going to
get to this point of my career,

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and especially just even I'm still running
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So whoever thought someone will still compete
at the high level while there's still forty

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seven So at any point, because
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winded, did you say, okay, Coach Murray, I'm not sure I

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want to do this anymore? I
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honest, I enjoyed. I love
running, and you know, just can't

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I can't even imagine doing something else
but besides running, to be honest,

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out it's my passion. And even
when I'm retired as a professionality, I

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will keep running. I will involved
with that running community, and you know,

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just you just have to love running
to be honest, you have to

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love the sports to be doing this
long. Yeah, well, so is

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there something about it? Why did
you love it you know so much?

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Is it because it was it because
it was easy for you? Uh?

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Maybe it wasn't easy. I don't
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What? Where did the love for
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love of the company. It's just
something I do. I developed throughout the

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years. And just I just love
competing and just and you know, I

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love all the other sports I love. Actually my favorite sports is a football.

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I love watching football, but I
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I'm you know, just I have
control of my destiny, you know,

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just like I can'mnot playing on some
way. If someone doesn't play, make

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a play or make a mistake,
that's all come to me because this individual

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sports, and I try for one
individual sports. I try competing with that

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athletes. I try when someone tell
me you can't do anything, you cannot

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do that you cannot qualify the Olympics. I love that motivation. Yeah.

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So obviously Murray helped you, like
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you were a younger, a younger
kid man who ran. So at

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what point did you kind of say, hmm, maybe I could be good

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at this what age? No,
To be honest, I never realized I

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was going to go to pro until
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I just remember when I finished my
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That's when someone come to me.
It wasn't even me, someone from the

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Nike IRA come to me. They
say, hey, we're going to offer

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you a contract to run for us. And I say, oh, I

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never thought there was a contract to
run. And I said, you know

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what, why not I give it
a shot. And that was the beginning

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of my career. Before that,
I was just running for off and I

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enjoyed. I enjoyed competing at both
a team and the U of A.

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I have the same drive. And
also, you know, when I turned

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pro, I just you know,
they say you have to get a coach,

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and I said, why don't.
I just think who's song with my

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coach? Right right, right right? So you were kind of right after

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you finished school here you got nil
deals right after right after you know,

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you were you were ahead of your
time. I don't know about that,

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but that was a professional contract.
Yeah, I got some money when if

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at the UVA. No, don't
you wish that, because look at what's

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going on right now. It's unbelievable, isn't it. I don't know there

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is, It's just I don't I
don't like it. It's just kind of

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like, you know, this is
when this one of the people build the

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character, you know, just taking
that like you know, it's just as

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this when you grow as a person
as an athlete. This when you learn

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everything in life. But you're coming
in on a college just as a professional

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athlete. You're taking a recruit not
because of the school, it's just what

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they're about to offer you. You're
negotiating. It's crazy. You sound like

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two old men. We feel the
same way. So so a couple of

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years after you leave the JO you're
done, great career, the y of

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a Male Athlete of the Year in
ninety eight, you're in the Olympics.

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Two years later. What was that
like for you? And when did the

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Olympics become a goal for you?
You know, Olympic become a goal of

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goal of mine? What right don't
I graduate from the U of A.

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You know, I just want to
coach Murray told me, Okay, the

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next chapter is for you to make
the Olympics team. And I say wow,

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And I said, you know what, I didn't know how to make

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it. I don't know what it
was, but you know, just just

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for me, just believe in Coach
Murray and believe in his system. And

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he said, you know, just
follow my guardians. I will just tell

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you. And I never asked questions, and I knew what. I know

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what he has done for my career, like leading while I was at the

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U of A would lead to bigger
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So I just listened to him.
And I remember just going to the Olympic

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trials in two thousand Sacramento. All
I have to do, Coach Murray told

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me, just all you have to
do is just make sure you get the

408
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:56.400
top three, top three goals to
Olympics. Now, that was the main

409
00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:59.920
goal for me, not to win
it. That's only what rates. You

410
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.359
can say the third place is as
good as the first place. And I

411
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think you finished third, right,
Is that what it was? Yes?

412
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Yes, I finished thirty yeh.
And then you were in Australia in two

413
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:14.759
thousand. Yes, I was in
Sydney, Australia, my first Olympics.

414
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I still remember was like was yesterday? Tell me how it was because I

415
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remember covering you there. I was
there as well, just crazy time,

416
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.799
great weather. How was it for
you? I know it was amazing experience.

417
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.720
I remember that was when I run
that ten thousand meter. At that

418
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time, you have to run the
pre leams like a couple of days before

419
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:36.960
you have to run the ten thousand
freedoms to make the finals. I remember,

420
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like just at a young age,
a twenty one year old just got

421
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out of the U of A.
I just run the race. I qualified

422
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:47.319
for the finals, and I finished
eighth of the finals, I think,

423
00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:52.240
and so and then you had many
more Olympics to talk about each each one

424
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:57.000
after that, you know, what
was the approach in terms of, you

425
00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:00.119
know, you had your first one, so now I'm going my second one,

426
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.319
my third one. You know,
you kept you kept getting into the

427
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Olympics. But how did you see
the Olympics after that? Did you become

428
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:10.880
more of I'm just trying to qualify
and you know, obviously I'm trying to

429
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:15.799
win. But what was your approach
as each one came along? You know,

430
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each one like except except my first
one, all the other one was

431
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I was trying to win a medal, to be honest, and and they

432
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:25.720
only give like three medals away to
be honest. Just and also you know

433
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:30.000
in that, you know, being
an American, I'm going through our system

434
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:36.039
isn't difficult just because we run Olympics
before the Olympics. Just US Olympic trucks

435
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:37.880
almost as big as the Olympics,
you know, just because we have some

436
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:42.400
of the best athletes in the world. Sometimes the best the best athlete get

437
00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:47.400
letter at home is stay home.
They don't even make the team. But

438
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:48.720
for me, you know, it
takes a lot out of you. And

439
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:51.960
I think if I look back on
my career, and I said, the

440
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reason I didn't get medals because I
put a lot into making the team.

441
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:57.640
And sometimes when I get to the
trials, I was already when I get

442
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to Olympics, I was already tired. Sometimes, you know, just right,

443
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.200
there's so many things that went through. But I have no regret,

444
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:07.720
to be honest, Like just making
the five ollum victim was amazing. And

445
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.440
as you get older, you said, you're forty seven, Uh, how

446
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:15.759
does you get more tired? Or
you still got the same energy. I

447
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.519
still get the same energy, you
know, I still train as hard as

448
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:21.640
I used to. You know,
I'm not as fast as you used to,

449
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:25.400
but I still have the endurers and
I still love running, you know,

450
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:29.319
but at the end of the day, I and the reality is sometimes

451
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:32.039
you have to realize you're not as
good as you used to be. You

452
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:34.960
just that's just a fact. And
I know I'm not as good as I

453
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.839
used to be, but I still
can compete a high level more than average

454
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:42.680
people. So does that push you
harder or if you can't. If you

455
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:45.920
know that you're not as good as
you're as your past, but you're still

456
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.920
competitive, how do you how do
you kind of cross that line? How

457
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:53.359
do you try to get more out
of yourself, more about myself? You

458
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.640
know, I just listened to my
coach, I listened to my friends,

459
00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:59.519
you know, just at the end
of the day. And that's why they

460
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:03.720
say, it's just surround yourself with
good people, people who believe in you

461
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.880
and let you know and just give
you the truth about yourself. Because sometimes

462
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:12.720
as an athlete with stubborn like that's
why they why they have the nbas.

463
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:17.240
Sometimes a lot of people don't don't
want to retire, but they the team

464
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:19.839
just tell them have to retire the
team, tell them they're not good enough

465
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:23.000
because they always think you as good
as you are. Because you look at

466
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:26.960
Lebran James. Now he's he's almost
close to forty years all but and he's

467
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:30.359
playing a high level. There's the
same athlete who have it, and some

468
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:37.759
athlete just don't like Tom Brady plays
he's early late forties, almost forty five,

469
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:41.680
you know, just and I just
look at those athletes and then inspiration

470
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.039
to me and just trying to do
the same thing that they do. So

471
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:49.599
as as these athletes that are coming
into a different time for college athletics,

472
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.759
and and you know, maybe you
know we we know track and field and

473
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:59.039
some of those sports are different from
football and basketball as far as things like

474
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:00.559
NAL, transfer, portal, all
that kind of stuff. What kind of

475
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:04.480
advice would you have for somebody who
says coming out of high school in terms

476
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:07.359
of, you know, what they
should be looking for if they're looking to

477
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:11.920
go to the next level. Uh, you know, what they should look

478
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:14.599
for in a coach, what they
should look for in a program. What

479
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:21.119
would you advise some an athlete on
that, you know, my just to

480
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:22.440
be honest athlete, it's just it's
just what do you want to do?

481
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:25.599
What you want to do with your
life? You know, just like at

482
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:29.920
the end of the day, like
like as an athlete, we're not all

483
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.720
we're not all going to go to
a pro as a professionals as a professional

484
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:37.960
like an athlete or play sports,
we're going to go. We're going to

485
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.200
go. We've become we're going to
become a professional people. We'll go like

486
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.599
maybe become a professional accountant. So
you need to figure out what do you

487
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.079
want to do with your life?
What's you good at it? And what's

488
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:52.759
your chance are what's your chance are
like making to the league or making like

489
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:57.000
becoming an Olympian. Not everybody become
an Olympia or not everybody go to the

490
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:01.559
league. So just a true wisely, just make sure you what do you

491
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:04.799
want to do with your love?
They have a good program and also like

492
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.799
you know, just someone that you
trust, you know, just also coaches

493
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:09.079
a big part of it. You
know, just make sure the people who

494
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:14.720
who you're going to go play for
it knows about the sports and also we

495
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:20.559
will build give you like fundamentally physically
and mentally. So what are you up

496
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:24.079
to these days? You know,
these days I'm still I'm still competing.

497
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:27.440
I said, I think this is
going to be my last say as a

498
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:30.400
competition as a professional business runner.
You know, I just I just gotta

499
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:34.240
I just got in back to the
Sports Hall of Fame. And also you

500
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.599
know, there's that's a lot of
things that I want to do. I

501
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:38.839
want to you know, I was
living in blagsup most of the time,

502
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:43.960
so now I want to permanently move
back to Tucson to start a road race

503
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:49.319
and hopefully Tank you the meter to
to fund my foundation, the Right Hoop

504
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.440
Hope Foundation, which I'm which I
started already like in the process, so

505
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:55.880
we already filled the papers everything,
and so I just you have to just

506
00:32:55.920 --> 00:33:00.359
start the race and do start doing
the fund race and make peece and give

507
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:02.319
people hope. What's the name again? It tell us a little bit more

508
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:07.559
about that the right to help on
right, right to have hope, right

509
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:13.039
to have hope, you know,
yep, Okay, go ahead, Yeah,

510
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:15.559
And the reason behind that for me, someone give me, you know,

511
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:20.519
like someone like Coach Milky, Dave
Murray, Nick Partner, those people

512
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:22.440
who give me hope. You know, I don't know what I want to

513
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:23.799
do left at the end of the
day, just like I know I want

514
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:28.960
the sports, but you know,
someone give me the hope and make my

515
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:30.519
dream come through. Like that's what
I want to do with the kids.

516
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:35.000
Like there's some kids who are like
A who are athletes, but they're not

517
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:37.519
the best athlete. They don't get
recruited. We want to give them the

518
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:42.720
opportunity for them to have their dream
come through. Hopefully send them to the

519
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.319
schools that they want to go and
tell the coaches, you know what,

520
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:49.720
we will take this kid to scholarship
about all you have to do for us

521
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.920
and let him compete with this team. Just be a walk on and he's

522
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:58.240
not going to take you a scholarship. Very nice. That's that's an incredible

523
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:00.759
view that you would want that you
would do that, and too that you

524
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:04.440
would come back to Tucson and do
that. Yeah, that's what I want

525
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.440
to reap. And also it's going
to be to be from her in the

526
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:10.360
state of Arizona and not only two
some but you know, just want to

527
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:14.960
give all the all the kids instead
of Arizona the hoop. So, with

528
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:17.719
one year left that you in your
pro is there something that you definitely want

529
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:23.519
to chase before you call it a
day? I just to be honest,

530
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:28.039
I was chasing to make the Olympic
team this year, but unfortunately I just

531
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.559
get into out the trials and it
didn't go my way. And I know

532
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.159
that just, you know, just
I think age have to do with because

533
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.280
I put a lot of work in
it. So that was my dream.

534
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:40.519
But there's nothing else I need to
chase. You know, the people always

535
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:44.000
want to make one Olympic team.
I have made it five of them,

536
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:47.400
and I'm so thankful. Now time
for me to be on the other side

537
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:52.320
and help people. Very nice,
Abdy, You've always been a good guy.

538
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:54.679
Abdy, thank you very much.
Appreciate you, thank you, thank

539
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:59.039
you being well. Congrats again on
the Hall of Fame. All right,

540
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:01.559
thank you, have a great day
to thank you. I couldn't run to

541
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:07.280
the refrigerator. I tried to run
down the hall yesterday chasing, chasing my

542
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:10.960
grandkid. He he ran me.
He's fifteen months, he's got I wasn't

543
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:19.239
catching him. His strides are like
I had to pull up a little handy

544
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.440
there. We didn't go. Well, well, that's great, OBD.

545
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:28.360
You know again, a great guy. A treasure for Tucsonde to have a

546
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:30.159
guy like that who not only came
here from somewhere else again, one of

547
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:35.519
those guys came here from somewhere else
with a great story and his continue to

548
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:38.000
make Tucson, you know, his
home, and it's appointed him all these

549
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:40.760
guys, a lot of those Yeah, Okay, all right, we're gonna

550
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:44.000
take our break. We're gonna come
back. Don't forget. We've got Steve

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Tucson Roadrunners, coming up next hour.

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guy Kevin in with us today.
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h. I remember the number had
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You guys want to call, give
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for a while. Yewh. We
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we've got anything on the on the
horizon for the rest to be out.

598
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Yeah, for for for a while
now, okay, cool? Anybody want

599
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to call talk about the transfers.
What's going on in the world today today?

600
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.719
Is what time is the breaking news
your stuff with with the w n

601
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B A, oh, the draft
that that's seven o'clock to night Eastern,

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So I think four four four,
okay, so in the second during your

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breaking news stuff? Okay, cool? Anything else? I guess maybe there's

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a chance maybe a U A or
two players might go to the w n

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B A. I don't know.
Well, uh as Mary Martinez and and

606
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Helena fail, but I don't see
either one of them getting I I've not

607
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looked at any w n B A
Mark drafts, even if there are any

608
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left. No, And but I
you know, obviously the interest is you

609
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know, the top of the draft
where you know it's Kaitlin Clark going to

610
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:52.880
be the number one pick? Is
somebody else gonna did somebody else have something

611
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:54.360
else in mind? Where is Angel? He's gonna go all that kind of

612
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:59.599
stuff? You know? Uh?
But no, did you see that Kate

613
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:04.559
and Clark thing on Saturday night Night? Good? And she she just by,

614
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:07.519
you know, just all over the
place, right. I mean,

615
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.519
you talk about a person that's just
you know, got all the bells and

616
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:15.199
whistles. And do you think do
you think and know we're talking about a

617
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:19.880
sport that we have no idea what
we're talking about, but that she'll have

618
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:24.719
a tough at the next level.
I think that's what they're saying. Yeah,

619
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:30.079
I think and and and look the
players already in the NBA. Yeah,

620
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:32.400
you're they're saying, well, you
know what about us, They're gonna

621
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:35.519
make it tough on her, you
know, And that's what they do,

622
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.360
That's what they do with rookies.
Right, We're gonna show you that you're

623
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:43.199
not all that right and and so
yeah, yeah, I whether she will

624
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:45.639
have a tough time, I don't
know. But are they going to try

625
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:47.880
and give her a tough time?
I think so. I think she'll do

626
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.679
fine, but she won't achieve the
things that we think she's going to achieve

627
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:55.840
immediately. I think it also depends
on the team around her, because they're

628
00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:00.280
mocked. They're projected to also pick
up Leah Edwards as well. I'm sorry

629
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.400
they already have a center on that
team. But the point is she was

630
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:07.639
scoring crazy numbers at Iowa because she
had to. That team did not have

631
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:10.519
the talent around her to make it
all the way without doing that. But

632
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:14.159
I think she will be able to
show off for passing and her playmaking ability

633
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:17.440
and her facilitation at ST level.
So will she be the scoring superstar Dynamo.

634
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:21.559
Maybe not. She would be one
of the best point guards, like,

635
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:23.960
not immediately, but maybe well.
And there's been some good ones plumb

636
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:30.840
maya more more, there's been some
great ones. Has been you know,

637
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:36.199
the shooter that she's she's still the
shooter that she was in college, right

638
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:39.159
right, And and I'm sure the
team that drafts her Indiana for likely will

639
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:44.320
protect her obviously, and she'll buddy
get grief by her teammates too. You

640
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:47.480
know. That is it's it's an
unsung how much money she's gonna make?

641
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:52.360
Well that well there and guess what
she's she's already making tons of money now,

642
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:55.639
and that is that's gonna follow her. Yeah, that was gonna stop

643
00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:59.199
because she's not playing for Iowa.
Yeah, and that that was one of

644
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:01.679
the dumb comments with me towards the
end of the season, saying, you

645
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:05.039
know, she's got another year of
college. Why she would she just stay

646
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:07.119
because she's going to lose all her
money. No, she's not. That

647
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:10.800
money's going with her. She's she's
on Farmers commercials. I mean, that's

648
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.079
national stuff that she's gonna you continue
to have to continue to make the most

649
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:16.920
of that. I heard the same
thing, and I thought the same thing.

650
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:21.119
That money travels, baby, it
does. It sure does what it's

651
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:25.679
going to Yeah, now you know
I'll probably keep like, you know,

652
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:29.880
a little side eye out on you
know, and how she's doing. Uh,

653
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:31.800
just out of you know, general
interest in sports, right. I

654
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:35.679
mean like when Lebron got into the
into the league, you know, there

655
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:37.000
were guys out there who are saying
we're gonna make it a shirt out of

656
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:39.880
course. Let's take this call.
Hi, you're on there and eye on

657
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:44.800
the ball. Hey you guys,
this is Gabe. How are you guys

658
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.719
doing, Gabe? Welcome back,
We're here, We're fine. Okay,

659
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:52.679
that's good. Do you want to
talk about so? Do you? Guy?

660
00:42:52.920 --> 00:43:00.000
I know that Bill Norton transfer out
of Arizona, so that kind of

661
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:05.280
it sucks. But it's college football
right now in twenty twenty four, and

662
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:10.239
I bet Brent Brennan and the whole
coaching staff are have a couple of contingency

663
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:16.280
plans on who they're going to get
the transfer potals. So so let's just

664
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:22.079
be prepared for Arizona fence. Let's
just don't worry about this. This is

665
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:30.800
gonna happen every single college college fan
base from from Alabama to Washington or so

666
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:36.679
on so forth, so I wouldn't
worry about it. Wow, Gabriel with

667
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:40.880
a rational dude, what's going on? That's good to Gabriel. Let me

668
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:44.360
ask you a quick question, just
to maybe get the old Gabriel back.

669
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:49.280
How long did it take you to
get over the loss in the Sweet sixteen?

670
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:55.000
It took me a couple like two
days, and then you said,

671
00:43:55.039 --> 00:44:01.000
okay, enough already we're moving on. Yeah, and and then and so

672
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:07.880
I just thought, well, Tommy
Lloyd is gonna get players in the transfer

673
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:12.840
portal and get ready for the Big
twelve, and they're not. I don't

674
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:17.119
think tom and Lloyd is gonna get
get those soft ass to Europinion players because

675
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:23.719
we need we need players from the
transfer portal are gonna basically are big ol

676
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:30.719
bigel grizzly bears who are basically tough
and not take jiguani iced tea from anyone.

677
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:34.920
Yeah. So let me ask you, Gabriel. You said you're like

678
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:38.639
twenty seven, right, twenty six? What the Holaday seven? Twenty seven?

679
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:44.400
When at what age will you be
when Arizona gets to the Final four.

680
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:52.440
I don't know, hopefully soon,
yeah, say twenty eight. Yeah.

681
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:57.199
Hey, I'm still looking for the
fountain the youth, and and I

682
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:01.039
don't want to get older. Another
question I have is in regards to Arizona

683
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:07.639
Athletics and Arizona and Arizona and the
president of Arizona. I just thought about

684
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:15.880
the idea about if if Arizona wants
to stay, it has every single college

685
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:21.639
that has a lot of il money. Should Arizona just cut to the chase

686
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:29.599
and be the first college to have
their student athletes to be employees of the

687
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:35.039
university and that will start a chain
reaction. Well that's what talked about.

688
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.440
Yeah, that's a that's a tough
one because whatever they do, it's got

689
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:43.320
to be within n C double A
rules, right, So uh, and

690
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:46.159
so the NC double A kind of
has to decide that, or the courts

691
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:49.960
have to decide that for the n
C double A and then they become employees

692
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:54.679
of the school. Yeah, or
Arizona could just leave then nca I mean

693
00:45:54.760 --> 00:46:00.000
it's a matter of when all the
all the schools in the SEC and the

694
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:05.360
big ten will leave to will leave
that n c A. So why why

695
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:10.320
not Arizona just leaves the NCAA and
just start a change change reaction. Well

696
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:20.599
also, and also Arizona leaves from
the Arizona leads the border regions because in

697
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:27.480
the SEC, all those SEC SEC
schools don't have any border regions. I

698
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:32.679
just still find that that's so eediotic
because because I live in California and all,

699
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:37.800
and we basically have the same scene
the California border regions. I just

700
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:45.280
find that really pretty pretty eadiotic.
No, the state schools like University of

701
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:50.119
Alabama. I don't know if Auburn
is a state school, but they're they're

702
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:53.559
governed by state boards of some sort, whether you call a border regions board

703
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:59.679
of trustees or whatever. They're they're
state government funded schools. So so Alabama

704
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:04.639
does have a board of trustees of
some sort, and all the all the

705
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.360
other state schools like you know,
even well, you know the California set

706
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:15.000
up because there's two there's two uh
uh state university agencies, but in Arizona

707
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.320
just has one. But no,
all all those you well, you know

708
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:22.679
when you see University of Michigan,
Michigan State, all those have they have

709
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.239
trustees like or boards of regents or
whatever you want to call them. They've

710
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:29.719
all got them. Okay, well, yeah, all right, thank you

711
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:35.880
for asking my question. I didn't
say the word dumb as we just assumed

712
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:43.760
that we call the morons on North
they have pretty disgusting colors and dumb ass

713
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:46.079
college. Oh yeah, well that's
the game, we know, Thank you,

714
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:50.239
getting all right, thanks a bunch, You're welcome. Beard his own

715
00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:52.000
cap. You know, we almost
got out of there, and then we

716
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:55.239
got not one, but two,
I think that's what he calls. Anyway

717
00:47:55.280 --> 00:48:00.800
you wants to see those ways a
game? Yeah? Anybody else want to

718
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:01.719
call police? Do five? Two, oho, four one, six,

719
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:05.960
seventy four forty? What's on your
mind? What did you do? I

720
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:07.719
won't ask you because I was asked
about the Suns. You can tell you

721
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:12.960
about their playoffs next, because I
didn't know where they fell in terms of

722
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:15.920
and Golden State thinks in the playoff
or whatever. So that's gonna happen.

723
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:20.000
Class you can start watching the NBA. Yeah, we can start watching NBA

724
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:22.880
and the playoffs are on, and
the NHL playoffs are on as well.

725
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:24.719
Yeah, I don't know anybody.
Well, you probably do because your son's

726
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:29.400
probably involved watching them, But I
don't know very many people who watch the

727
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:31.920
regular season outside of maybe a favorite
teen or now there's this guys, guys

728
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:36.079
who like watching the players, you
know, and now now the players are

729
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:38.800
here, people start paying there about
the teams and all that kind of stuff.

730
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:43.119
No, absolutely right, you know, and even you know. I

731
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.320
mean, yeah, I guess I'll
follow even the early early rounds. I

732
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:49.519
won't sit down and watch an NBA
game until they get further than the plasts,

733
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:52.079
but I'll be paying attention who's in, who's out, who's loses.

734
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:57.280
There's gonna be some great matchups in
the first round because Golden State plays Sacramento

735
00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:00.800
I think it is, and there's
some other Lakers and whoever. They play

736
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:04.880
like Pelicans and they just played them. A lot of great matchups that could

737
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:08.079
happen and upsets that could happen.
Yeah, yeah, well you got yeah,

738
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:12.119
you got the Kings and the Warriors
at the Pelicans Lakers. We'll let

739
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.599
we'll let Kevin break that down for
us. We got to break in news

740
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:17.559
bad. You know, they get
going today. And I love the play

741
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:21.400
in format. I think it's very
cool the way the way they do that,

742
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:25.840
where you know there's based on your
seed and you know you don't have

743
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:30.320
to win as many games or whatever. You're like, you're like if you're

744
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:32.159
the last one in. Man,
it's a hard road. It's a lot

745
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:36.519
more excitement with the plan. It's
a really hard road. Now, that's

746
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:39.199
fine. I'm fascinated by the fact
that the Warriors have gotten so bad that

747
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:42.760
they're in the play in Yeah.
Well, they were in the play like

748
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.440
two three years ago, I think
it was, and they got beat in

749
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.039
the first in the first round here
they had like a gazillion injuries and stuff.

750
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.159
Yeah, but they were there.
I mean they're still good enough.

751
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:57.800
Think they've been playing kind of better
than Yeah, and and Thompson's coming around.

752
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:00.880
Now. I'm looking at the bracket. If you would ask me who

753
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:04.039
is the number one seed in the
West, I know you want to you

754
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:07.320
want to find out Oklahoma? Yeah, Oklahoma. Right, they've done a

755
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:12.199
fantastic job with you, with with
your guy, with your guys chid homeroun

756
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:15.840
Yeah, well you know, I
say that's our guest, you know,

757
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:21.159
seven five and forty five pounds,
you know, I remember those days,

758
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.159
forty five pounds at least. Yeah. No, and then and they played

759
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:27.480
out of their mind. And then
the East. Uh. In the East

760
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:30.639
it was Boston, right, which
no surprise, they've been locked up for

761
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:34.360
six games. The surprise team was
Milwaukee. Had they fell the three?

762
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:37.599
Yeah, and who's the two?
Oh? The next? Quitch? Nick?

763
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:42.079
What what? Yeah? What we
have asked me about the next?

764
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:44.119
I had said, well, when
was the last time they were in the

765
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:46.280
player? I was just gonna say, we were like caveman who fell asleep

766
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:50.280
and didn't wake up for a few
years. This kind of like it feels

767
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.079
like you woke up from like a
long nap and you're like the sun's gone

768
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.840
down and dinner's over and gone.
Right, what happened here? So we'll

769
00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:59.960
see what happens with that, and
we'll obviously continue to talk about that party.

770
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:01.880
Give a phoenix or guy or two
to come on and see, you

771
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:07.239
know, see what happens, See
what happens. Maybe we can see Could

772
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:12.079
you look up how DeAndre Aiden finished
his season, because I mean they moved

773
00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:14.199
him for a reason. Yeah,
I went to Portland. I went to

774
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:16.559
Portland. Did you hear much about
him outside of him not making a game

775
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:22.599
because of a snowstorm? Oh?
Yeah, there was that. This season,

776
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:29.639
DeAndre Aiden averaged sixteen eleven and one
assist sixteen a mediocre Portland team.

777
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:32.519
Yeah, with the same same identity
that he's always had. Ironically, it's

778
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:37.519
actually his exact average like for his
career is sixteen point seven, and he

779
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:40.679
averaged sixteen point seven this season.
He had one extra rebound in the same

780
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:45.679
amount of assists. DeAndre is who
he is no matter where you put him,

781
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:50.280
no question. Good days and bad
days, Yeah, more bad days

782
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:52.320
and good days probably Okay, hey, are you ready? All right,

783
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.239
let's let's go in. Let's go
and hit and hit it. Kevin's gonna

784
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:59.920
be back, got breaking news,
more stuff coming out of the NBA player

785
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:02.920
smare transfer portal stuff, and who
knows what the heck else. So you

786
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:07.440
all good for that, ready?
Right about? Lots of good stuff,

787
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:09.039
all right, So let's go and
take our break. We'll be back break

788
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:12.039
your news at the top of the
hour, and then at the in the

789
00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:15.760
second segment, we're gonna have Dennis
Potman. Did I say that right?

790
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:19.559
Steve Potkin, Steve Potchkin, the
head coach of the two Suon roadrunners.

791
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:20.079
We're right back