WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:07.559 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez Son Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:14.279 fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions kt z 3 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:18.760 R two, SAG and iHeartRadio Station. Hey, good enough to doon everybody. 4 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:21.120 Welcome to Eye on the Ball. Here a Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 5 00:00:21.399 --> 00:00:26.559 I'm Steve Ribera, He's Jagin's awe. Now we have our guy Sammy with 6 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:30.039 us today on a Wednesday. Not that we didn't have to bail you out 7 00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:33.479 of anything. Yeah, you know, hey, everything was everything was fine. 8 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:37.600 It fine. Have you cleaned up the mighty clothes from Saturday? Yeah? 9 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:41.880 I washed, the washed the shoes. I washed, washed both pairs 10 00:00:41.880 --> 00:00:45.799 of shoes. Actually it was rainy out there, so it was not not 11 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:50.359 fun walking around. But didn't have to wash any of my shirts or my 12 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:54.759 or my pants from from doing anything for our listener, SA. Sammy does 13 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:58.359 some work for the PGA Tour and was at the Phoenix Open last week, 14 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:03.119 but was a spectator on Saturday when all the shenanigans were going on, and 15 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:07.719 he kind of not poo pooed or it was not as bad as we think 16 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:11.280 it was. No, I just I just think not to say that what 17 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:17.120 happened on Saturday was not over the line, but that's remotely close to what 18 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:19.519 it is every year. And I know the coverage of it, and the 19 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:23.280 twenty thousand people that quote unquote didn't have tickets were being let in this that 20 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:29.280 the other. But my whole thing was last year at the WM Phoenix Open. 21 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:32.959 It was a signature event, the first on the PGA, and the 22 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:37.079 super Bowl was in Phoenix that weekend, so you would think that that weekend 23 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:41.439 would have been the raw rah, oh my gosh, what's happening weekend as 24 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:46.159 opposed to this This year, it's a normal event on tour. It's just 25 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:49.560 another Saturday. Wait, what's the distinction there? Signature event is the top 26 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:55.040 eighty players on the PGA Tour are required to play. Oh and it's a 27 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:57.719 So last year was a twenty million dollar per and they had all the guys, 28 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:00.519 all the guys. So this year the field was still fine, right, 29 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:06.040 but last year it was a twenty million dollar purse compared to an eight 30 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:09.520 point six nion dollars purse this year. Yeah, so you're think what happens 31 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:13.639 hurts their chances for it to be a signature event. Again, No, 32 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:16.479 I think it's it's kind of like a cycle. So oh, I say, 33 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:23.120 okay, it's it's somewhat like this next week and that Riviera, the 34 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:25.919 Genesiss, it's a pristine event. It's it's it is a signature event this 35 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:30.840 year. But they they'll cycle through and I see eventually the waste management will 36 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:32.759 be a signature event. Okay, good, So I don't think this weekend 37 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:36.759 will hurt their chances of that happen. And look, we've been talking about 38 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:38.879 this, you know, the last couple of days, and I don't want 39 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:43.000 to rip on the Phoenix Open as as sure. Judy McDermott, we had 40 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:46.199 on here yesterday, said look, it's still a great event. They raised 41 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:47.960 a lot of money, it does a lot of good. It was unfortunate 42 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:52.919 what happened, and you know, there's probably plenty of blame to go around, 43 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:55.360 but you know, the Phoenix Thunderbirds up there obviously do a great job 44 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:59.560 and do a lot of good stuff. It's just unfortunate that this thing has 45 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:02.000 been hung on that golf tournament. Yeah, you know, over what happened, 46 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:06.560 and again and a lot look, as you said, it's probably not 47 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:08.919 so far over the top as other years. The thing was all the social 48 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:13.159 media that we see this time and you go, whoa. And I think 49 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:16.000 we were talking a little bit before the whole circumstance of what was happening at 50 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:23.439 the Tournament of the Rain, which which caused play to start early Saturday and 51 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:27.719 have there be a hiatus in the middle of the day right around where the 52 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:30.960 majority of people are showing up on Saturday. There wasn't really any golf being 53 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:36.599 played because they just finished the second round, so there's no golf. Granted, 54 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:38.840 not a lot of people go to watch golf anyway, but that helps 55 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:44.719 the product. And so it just the stars didn't the line this weekend for 56 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:49.800 it to be. But the thing is Sunday was a great golf watching day. 57 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:52.240 Yeah, if you enjoy watching golf, if you like that event, 58 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:57.280 the sun was out. Nick Taylor had three birdies in his last four holes, 59 00:03:57.319 --> 00:03:59.639 won in a playoff. It was a great event on Sunday, And 60 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:03.240 that will get blown blown by with yeah happy people just forgot about it. 61 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:08.639 I had fun, though, I'm sure you did early. Did you have 62 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:11.639 to get there to work about six in the morning. Uh So? On 63 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:15.039 Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, because I knew it was gonna rain. I 64 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:18.879 got there around like seven thirty eight, and then I got what I needed, 65 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:21.199 and then when it started to pour, it was I was like, 66 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:26.120 I don't need it was. It was miserable being out there when it was 67 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:30.439 coming down, Like as a fan, I would not have been there. 68 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:35.639 And then Friday and Saturday it was just muddy everywhere. So it was just 69 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:42.079 another weekend at the waste. You golfers aren't used to this madness. No 70 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:45.319 that they playing rain. They played, they played in rain at Tory, 71 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:48.439 they played at rain in uh Pebble, and then they played in rain and 72 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:54.399 waste management. Supposedly from what I've heard, it's sunny skies and beautiful at 73 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:58.240 Riviera. So hopefully we get a great week of good golf and Tiger's back. 74 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:04.360 Yeah I was playing this week. Okay, let's move on from the 75 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:08.279 state. We're putting Steve to sleep right now. But yeah, Sammy, 76 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:11.120 you and I right here, right here, right here, right you and 77 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:14.000 me. You still like sport a golf. Let's go onto whatever else we're 78 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:17.639 gonna talk about today. We have a different show today. Javio Morales is 79 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:20.959 coming in in the first hour, right all kinds of high school playoffs starting. 80 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:25.560 There's summer started, You've got state tournaments beginning. I know the state 81 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:30.160 wrestling tournament is up this weekend because my niece is in it. Actually she's 82 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:33.079 a grand niece, she's the niece. She's the daughter of my niece. 83 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:39.560 So she's a wrestler at Sunnyside. And then you know, I went and 84 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:43.839 saw my old Saint Gregory or the Gregory School Hawks last Thursday, and they're 85 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:48.199 opener in the state tournament and they're in the semi finals this weekend. They're 86 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:56.720 trying to win their fifth state championships since I think twenty two thousand and nine, 87 00:05:57.279 --> 00:06:00.759 and so you know, following them a little bit, and you know, 88 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:03.399 and then you just see the you know, the other tournaments gearing up. 89 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:08.399 State soccer is going on, So all kinds of stuff. So we'll 90 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:10.959 talk to have your morales from all sports too, Son, And then at 91 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:15.079 four fifteen we have Yeah, Brett, I was gonna say, I forgot 92 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:18.360 Brett Ferris, sports editor. There's on a Daily Star boy to they they 93 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:21.639 had a whole bunch of things to deal with, uh, you know, 94 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:27.279 hiring it or a coach leaving a coach being hired and that fleg director fired. 95 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:32.120 You know, there's on a basketball and it's ups and downs and so 96 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:35.199 uh, you know, Mike andre is stepping it. Because Brett was at 97 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:39.160 the Mike Andrea press conference last week. We got some of his thoughts on 98 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:43.759 that women's basketball, women's basketball and all that stuff that's been going on so 99 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:47.120 with a small staff, right, So yeah, so we'll we'll, you 100 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:50.800 know, we'll get a we'll get a performance evaluation on Justin Spears from from 101 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:54.959 Brett. Let's see what he says about Justin. Justin is a busy man, 102 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:58.160 yes, and and and Lev too, right, yeah, both everybody 103 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:00.639 is guy J. Brown old right, and that's it. You date them 104 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:04.120 all that, all of them pretty much pretty much. Come on, we 105 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:09.600 did it with the Citizen five dudes, no sleep. Yeah, you know 106 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:12.439 how it is, yep, but it is a good do, good good 107 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:17.480 job. In fact, Brett I think helped with the Naya my Naya Nag 108 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:23.759 story. So we'll talk about him about that too, because I'm sure he 109 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:26.519 had a big part in that. Okay, cool, cool? Anybody want 110 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:30.680 to call remember five two o four one, six, seventy four forty we'd 111 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:32.839 like to hear from you at any point that we're not using the phone, 112 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:39.160 the phone, the phone, the one phone. Yes, yes, but 113 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:43.560 okay, cool, uh but basketball Tommy has Tommy has press tomorrow tomorrow, 114 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:46.519 so we'll well, we'll get some clips from that. I'll you know, 115 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:50.879 it's too late for you can go, but it's too late to go and 116 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:54.959 then race over here and do so. I'll watch it from here, record 117 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:58.399 the press conference, and we'll have some clips leading into the SU game. 118 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.439 Yeah, okay, I was gonna. I was on a show earlier this 119 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:05.600 morning and they said, if you were in Arizona, would you want to 120 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:09.360 be having a game this week in addition to the Saturday game? Or do 121 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:13.279 you not mind the day the days off? They don't mind the days off. 122 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:16.680 I don't. I don't. It's late enough in the season that you 123 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:20.639 feel like any extra day of rest that you can get, you're you're happy 124 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:22.240 to have. Yeah. I don't either. Loot from time to time, 125 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:26.680 played the big game in February, traveled somewhere or they played. Yeah, 126 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:31.759 yeah, they played the SU game on Thursday or even Wednesday, and then 127 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:33.320 go play a weekend game. They had. They had a bunch of those. 128 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:37.120 They would do that all the time. Yeah, yeah, you know, 129 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:41.600 and you got a nice non non conference it's like a high, high 130 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:46.600 visibility game. Uh. You know. They would play Duke, They played 131 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:52.440 Illinois a couple of times. They played just a bunch of those gonz did 132 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:54.600 it this week and they helped them. They went to Kentucky and and won 133 00:08:54.639 --> 00:09:00.559 that game on the road. It's crazy. I was just talking about and 134 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:03.360 and they're playing really good basketball. Well they played they not in their conference 135 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:07.879 or they still they still are on the outside looking in, is what I 136 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:15.000 for the tournament. Yeah, they're like okay, they're like sixteen, and 137 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:18.279 I think they'll be okay. But you know there's gonna bell. They're not 138 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:22.759 in a strong league. That league's better than people give its credit. Correct, 139 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:28.200 but it's better than the Pac twelve. You know what we could go 140 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.279 get. We could go get like sixty guys in this town and be a 141 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:35.960 better league than the backlall I need true. But yeah, yeah, well 142 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:39.919 they might have as many teams. All I know is all I know is 143 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:43.799 if I'm you of a I would not want to play go Zaga in anything 144 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:50.159 in March. I think they're extremely well coached when it comes to few running 145 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:54.440 that system, and they're going to be playing their best basketball in a couple 146 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:56.200 of weeks. I wouldn't be surprised if they won their conference tournament. And 147 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:00.120 they win and they're in the second weekend in March. Did you go a 148 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:05.159 good Zachtor? No, I just think I just think their program is very 149 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:09.000 good and it's built for what is about to happen in college basketball. Could 150 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:13.000 be, could be. I won't fight you on that, Okay, Okay, 151 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:16.080 we'll see, we will, we'll join. You'll be part of our 152 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:20.519 little uh or picks thing that we do here. Let's go, you know, 153 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:24.159 make sure you have cash. I got cash? Okay, all right? 154 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:28.679 Taking money from a kid, Hey, that's fine, okay, okay, 155 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:31.440 Well anything else. Women's what's the women? What are the women's? 156 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:35.279 They're playing two games? Uh? They got let's see this week they've got 157 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:46.000 coming up? They are? They got Washington State on Friday and uh there 158 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:52.000 they're home against Washington State on Friday and then home again. Uh. I 159 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:58.000 guess I'm sending their home on on Sunday, Friday, Sunday, Friday Sunday. 160 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:01.919 Okay, I'm okay. Then what made you decide not to do it? 161 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:05.519 Just too too. It was too hot, too many games. I 162 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:09.919 was that Michael way way too much. Look, I enjoyed the games and 163 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:13.879 stuff, but one I'm you know, I was a volunteer too. I 164 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:18.960 wasn't getting other work done because and there's just a lot of time spent over 165 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:20.559 there. Yeah, that makes you know, I mean, you know, 166 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:22.879 for games at six, I'm you know, I'm there at five. You 167 00:11:22.919 --> 00:11:26.240 know that kind of start five fifteen or five thirty or whatever. It just 168 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:31.919 it just became too much for me. Hey, I had some good stuff. 169 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:35.679 If you haven't heard the podcast on with the Pete Williams, go ahead 170 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:41.039 and try to check that down. Good good stuff. Yesterday he was he 171 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:43.519 had fun with us, and he said it was good. He enjoyed it. 172 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:48.720 Yeah, he remembers the two thousand and three That's the one I was 173 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:52.039 thinking about that you took a joy but you didn't know we were here, 174 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:54.720 we were watching it here would have been painful given that they were a number 175 00:11:54.720 --> 00:12:00.840 one seed. And then the now when we went up at the that was 176 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:03.360 painful too. That was painful too. Yeah, okay, it was more 177 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:07.960 painful for some other day. You know. I think I've told the story 178 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:11.320 that you know, after they won on Friday, after they it was a 179 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:13.759 Friday, was it Thursday? Saturday? I think it was a Thursday Saturday. 180 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:16.639 After they won on Thursday. Yeah, I called my brother and said, 181 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.159 get your butt up. That was the two thousand and ninety eight. 182 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:24.000 They be Maryland on Friday or Thursday, and so I called my brother. 183 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:26.200 I said, get your butt up here. I said, there's tickets available. 184 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:31.679 He drives up, He drives up, gets with a friend, gets 185 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:37.600 two tickets, and then they bad and not in a pretty you tah came 186 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:41.519 and cracked the Yeah, cracked him pretty bad. Yeah. Yeah, Okay, 187 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:45.039 we only have a couple of minutes here, but let's uh, let's 188 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:46.480 go. We're already kind of right. Well, we got again have you 189 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:50.519 Morales? And we'll get him and go through the various you know, some 190 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:54.840 of the playoff scenarios. You know, Sunnyside Soccer twenty three and one. 191 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:58.519 They beat somebody ate the nothing last night. They're one of the best teams 192 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:01.559 in the country. Yeah, so we'll talk to how have you Morales? 193 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:07.240 Have you Morales? And we'll talk high school sports with him. So we'll 194 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:11.600 be right back Withhavia Marhala's Oll Sports Tison make the right choice for your home 195 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:15.759 when it comes to windows and doors. For more than twenty years, the 196 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:20.200 Window Depot has provided the best price and biggest inventory on in stock windows and 197 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.799 doors. 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I know 270 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:44.480 you're busy, you've gone any sleep and you're getting prepared for the high schools 271 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:51.240 playoffs this month. No, it's I've already gotten over sleep. Maybe when 272 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:52.599 I'm retired, someday, when I'm like eighty years old, I'll be able 273 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:56.839 to You're never retiring. Ho, you know that, You know that what 274 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:02.960 I got from that is going to look to eighty. Good luck to that 275 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:07.559 you ain't moving in with me. So have all kinds of stuff getting started 276 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:11.559 right? I know that some state playoffs underway, some are still in the 277 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:18.720 works. You know what's what's on your calendar right now? Well, yesterday 278 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:22.599 I went to the Sunnyside Boys soccer. Heard you guys talking about it towards 279 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:26.559 the break. There just an impressive team. If you if you love soccer 280 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:32.519 or if you want to, you know, watching a soccer team play like 281 00:19:32.759 --> 00:19:36.839 the way they should, you should go out already at two o'clock to see 282 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:41.279 Sunnyside play Mason the championship or not the championship, sorry, the quarterfinals of 283 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:45.519 the six A tournament. They're twenty three and twenty three h to one. 284 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:49.799 Their rank fifteen nationally by max Preps. They have some great talent that mostly 285 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:53.599 juniors, so they're going to be even better next year. Just just a 286 00:19:53.640 --> 00:19:56.119 pleasure to watch in Casey O'Brien. I know you guys have had him on 287 00:19:56.119 --> 00:20:02.519 your show. He's one of the top coach is in any sport in the 288 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:06.839 state. Just the way he prepares that team. What makes this team special 289 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:10.680 because we've seen them play and do very well over the last two or three 290 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:14.640 years, but they haven't been able to cross that hump. What's this one 291 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:18.720 doing. A lot of balance, you know, a lot of scoring, 292 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:23.319 a lot of defensive you know, top defensive players are in the state are 293 00:20:23.319 --> 00:20:29.240 on the team, and Miguel Lugo is a very good goal They've only allowed 294 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:33.920 thirteen goals in twenty four games this year. They had a shoutout yesterday against 295 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:37.680 Boulder Creek eight to zero. Game was stop twenty minutes early because of the 296 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:41.279 mercy role. You know, you have Sebastian Barrios on the defensive end and 297 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:48.000 then just on hell barcomntes balito and he has thirty six goals, which is 298 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:53.000 unheard of. Johan and n has had four goals yesterday and it looked like 299 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:57.359 he was just you know, having you know, like he was just scrimmaging 300 00:20:57.400 --> 00:21:02.359 against those guys. The way he was playing and going past them. They're 301 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:03.960 just the joy to watch. And I think what's different about this team, 302 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:08.880 like you were asking, is just a mental aspect. They they are working 303 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:12.799 towards the state championship, where before they would lose in their early rounds and 304 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:18.720 not be really ready. But Casey O'Brien said that they're watching more video, 305 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:22.799 they're spending more time on each opponent than he's done it any other time. 306 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:27.680 And they won the state championship but five years ago. So you know a 307 00:21:27.680 --> 00:21:32.599 school like Sunnyside by that, I mean, you know a school that's not 308 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:34.759 South Point that you're going to go mind players from all over town because it's 309 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:38.039 a private school or some of those other schools that do that. I mean, 310 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:41.440 these kids, these kids have to be coming from the neighborhood for the 311 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:45.319 most part. Right, how is this happening? Is that that you know 312 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:48.000 they've got athletes and then he's just coaching them up or what's going on over 313 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:52.880 there with that, Well, they are from the neighborhood. Mostly he has 314 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:59.039 an occasion got some players to come in from like out of area to to 315 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:03.680 play here and because they know how good the program is. But this year's 316 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:07.920 team is mostly from the Sunnyside School district and that's not all. And what 317 00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:12.640 the difference is is because he spends a whole year on soccer, not just 318 00:22:14.079 --> 00:22:18.519 the soccer season, and you know, club soccer is so huge. What 319 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:23.279 he does with these club teams is he spends more time with these players than 320 00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:27.000 they do on their club teams. So he tries to spend as much time 321 00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:32.799 with those guys as possible year around. They're playing in one hundred and eight 322 00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:38.119 degree temperatures like at a park somewhere during the summer. That's what he does. 323 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:42.119 It's a year round thing with them, so he can stay with them 324 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:47.839 and know what he expects out of them. Yeah, okay, so you 325 00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:52.000 got Sundayside. How are the cell Point the usual stories? Sell Point doing 326 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:57.079 boys and girls. Although the girls team is third seeded in the open division, 327 00:22:57.119 --> 00:23:03.400 the girls basketball team uh they went big yesterday in their game and they're 328 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:06.720 there. They can go all the way to the championship game this year. 329 00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:10.599 And all their top players are juniors. So that's another team that could really 330 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:14.680 uh you know, be a be a foce here that this year and next 331 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:18.880 uh you know, till everybody knows about the Leah Henderson, you have a 332 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:23.079 recruiting target. But they also have four other juniors that are really top notch. 333 00:23:25.359 --> 00:23:30.599 Yeah, I'm sorry, three other juniors Sidney Anderson, Panna Williams, 334 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:34.240 and Alison even four other juniors. I'm sorry they those those four right there 335 00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:41.160 can start for anybody, and they're just overpowering opponents. Why why are the 336 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:47.200 open tournaments already well underway while the other I know one A is underway. 337 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:49.880 I think two A also, But why are those being played so early? 338 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:55.160 Well, the one A, two A and three A they don't have they're 339 00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:57.640 not part of the Open Division. They're just no. Yeah, but why 340 00:23:57.720 --> 00:24:03.440 is open division started and the other six A, five four A haven't started? 341 00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:08.039 Because they have? The Open Division happened earlier because if you lose in 342 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:11.759 the first two rounds of the Open Division, then you go to your conference 343 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:15.799 state. Oh, Okay, instance, sunning Side lost last night, so 344 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:18.519 now they're going to be in the six A tournament. They'll probably be a 345 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:22.359 number one or two seed now in the six A even though there are number 346 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:26.759 twelve in the open division. So now they do have a really good chance 347 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:30.839 to win the state championship. That's six A. But of course if you're 348 00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:33.559 in the open division you want to win that. That's the most preceidious one. 349 00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:37.720 They lost yesterday, so you have two bites at Yeah, that's that's 350 00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:41.920 that's what football's done the last I think three years, they've done it three 351 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:45.880 or four years they've had it that way. But with football, that's it, 352 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:49.240 you're just top eight. But basketball, the last two years, if 353 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:55.200 you lose in the first two rounds, you go to your your conference tournament. 354 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:56.599 If you win the if you win in the first two rounds, that's 355 00:24:56.599 --> 00:25:00.720 it. You're you stay in the open division tournament, even if you lose 356 00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:04.440 the next round. Okay, so wait to go back to what about soccer 357 00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:11.519 you had with wolf Gang in with uh with Peers, they're they're still alive 358 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:15.240 in their in their their state tournaments. Maybe not as dominant as years passed, 359 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:19.400 but they're still they're still in there as high seats, I think a 360 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:22.440 lot. I think Sunnysides in Tucson High have gone a lot of attention this 361 00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:26.720 year because of the way they were ranked. And Tucson High unfortunately lost in 362 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:32.240 overtime yesterday the boys in the first round. That was a shocker because a 363 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:36.079 lot of people thought Tucson High would play Sunning Side in the championship game again. 364 00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:41.480 But uh, cell point and the girls and boys are still highly highly 365 00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:45.000 rated and they'll probably get to their respective state state semi finals at least in 366 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:51.079 state championship. And nothing's really nothing really changed with their with their you know, 367 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:56.599 their their dominance in their in their conference. Okay, what else is 368 00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:00.400 going on? What other sports? H Well, you wrestling with Sunnyside going 369 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:06.519 for the thirty seventh state championship is Saturday, and uh thirty seventh and then 370 00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:08.200 I think they won seventh in a row or they're won for their seventh in 371 00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:14.960 a row, just like a factory. There's the visional champions, including Audrey 372 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:18.839 Jimenez, the first female to win a boys sectional title and she won one 373 00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:22.480 hundred and six pounds. So it's just amazing what they do year in a 374 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:26.960 year out, so she's wrestling in the boys division. She's yeah, she 375 00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:33.400 they they enabled that to happen this year, where where she couldn't wrestle in 376 00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:37.680 the boys if she chose to, and she has chosen to do that. 377 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:42.440 Last three years she's wrestled in the girls division in state. Right, what 378 00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:45.519 did it take to do that? You know? Did they have to get 379 00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:51.160 some ruling or was it just she could decide to just go wrestle the boys? 380 00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:53.920 I mean what what? What was what? You know? How did 381 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:59.160 that come together? They? Well, first, AA had a rule in 382 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:02.759 place earlier, this towards the end of the last school year, according to 383 00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:07.400 this school year that the girl a girl couldn't compete in the boys sectional or 384 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:15.039 state. But they Sunnyside appealed it based on her background or wrestling and her 385 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.759 success, and the AA granted it. I think there was another girl in 386 00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:23.160 the Phoenix there Waho did the same thing and they granted that appeal just because 387 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:29.920 of their backgrounds and their ability to compete at that level. I think what 388 00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:34.279 AIA was concerned about is the you know, the competition might be skewed, 389 00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:40.680 but obviously ob can hold her own and it's her choice that she's doing it, 390 00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:44.640 So they granted that choice. So that's that's why she's allowed to do 391 00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:47.680 it. Each athlete has to has to do that appeal. It's not like 392 00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:51.240 a you know, any girl can decide she wants to wrestle in the boys 393 00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:53.359 and take a shot at it. Yeah, there has to be an a 394 00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:57.960 process and that's what they did a couple of months ago. Yeah, so 395 00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:02.519 that's that's going to something to watch this this week. She could be the 396 00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:11.000 first to win a boys state championship again competing against boys, and she wins 397 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:15.559 the title. What do you ask? I mean, do you ask the 398 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:23.519 guy how uncomfortable it was? But what's interesting is because the boys know how 399 00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:26.440 good she is. He's a world class wrestler. She's in the probably wrestling 400 00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.599 Olympics, not it's not this year than two four years from now, so 401 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:33.880 they know how good she is, so they they're kind of they're they're accepting 402 00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.200 of it. It's not like where they're questioning it or or against it. 403 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.000 If you go to the meets, they're they're all accepting of her because how 404 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:45.799 good she is, and she's and she's wrestled with them right against them, 405 00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:52.440 right exactly and she's had that background. Yeah, what's the record overall her 406 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:55.200 record? I think she's only lost maybe like three or four times. I 407 00:28:55.240 --> 00:29:00.559 don't know her exact record, but she's overwhelmingly drum the fifty to the four 408 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:06.559 range, fifty and four range around there. How would you feel? Well, 409 00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:07.720 I used to, you know, as a as you said, I 410 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:11.200 would get upset if I lost a race to a girl, and that that 411 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:14.119 that was you know, I mean I felt like I should be faster than 412 00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:15.720 any girl, and that just wasn't ever true, you know, because there's 413 00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:19.440 some great athletes out there male and four male. So but you know that's 414 00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:23.000 us. We grew up in that era where you differentiated that. I think, 415 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:26.359 you know, it seems like, haven't correct me if I'm wrong. 416 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.599 And this, you know this this student now, the high school kid now, 417 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.039 they don't give a crap. You know, they'll you know, they'll 418 00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:34.960 play baseball against girls. I remember when we were going up and somebody, 419 00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:37.599 you know, girls wanted to play Little league baseball with the boys, and 420 00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:40.720 they had to go to court, and you know, they had to be 421 00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:44.759 protected, and and there were there were dads and players who were you know, 422 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.119 totally against him, like it's just a different era, and I would 423 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:51.240 like to think that you know, we've gotten we've gotten past that. I 424 00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:55.799 don't know that I would even go as a reporter, right and have you 425 00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:56.680 you know you, I don't know how you would do it. I don't 426 00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:02.839 know if that i'd even go to the the let's she beats him? Boy, 427 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:04.519 I'm not even sure that I would go ask him that question, because 428 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:07.680 what are you doing there? You're saying, well, she shouldn't beat you 429 00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:10.599 because she's a girl, and no, no, no, no, I'm 430 00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:15.680 asking how comfortable it was to or uncomfortable it was to to do this. 431 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.759 But see, I'm not sure that that that I would even ask that. 432 00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:22.000 I would just say because because by not asking that, now you're saying this 433 00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:26.400 is normal and this is okay, right, it's more normal than you would 434 00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.160 think because of her background. And what what I would ask him is just 435 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:33.880 what what? What was it? Like? What? What? What? 436 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:36.960 What? What made her be the winner? What did she do? You 437 00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:41.279 know that kind of question? Right as her? Are you asking him? 438 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.119 Yeah, That's what I'm saying. I ask him like what what what was 439 00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.759 it that allowed her to win? What did she do? You know? 440 00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:51.400 What? Takeaways did you get from that? That's what I would ask her. 441 00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:55.279 That's caim. I'm sorry. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say 442 00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:57.920 was it was it different wrestling her because she was a girl. I'm not 443 00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:02.839 sure I would ask. I think I would. I would say I apologize 444 00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:06.960 with the question, but no, see, I would try and ignore it. 445 00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:10.559 I really would. Well, I would think maybe she's a senior, 446 00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:12.799 so this has happened before. She's she's wrestled against boys since she's been a 447 00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:18.200 freshman in different tournaments, so it's nothing new. The boys around here, 448 00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:21.960 the coaches around the state, they know her, so it's a little different. 449 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:23.599 But yeah, I can see here you're coming from Steve too. I 450 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:27.960 get that. I get it. But has that story been written? Uh, 451 00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:32.480 well, it has been as far as her competing against boys, Yeah, 452 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:37.039 and then her them accepting her. So Jay, Yeah, nineteen seventy 453 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:40.920 five, you're running against a girl and she and junior high track me or 454 00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:44.240 whatever. Jay, you just got to beat And this is sexist, this 455 00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.680 is a sexist question. But you lost. How'd you feel? I feel 456 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:51.000 like a weenie because I lost to a girl? Okay, okay, but 457 00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:55.319 this is different because this is fifty years later, and this is a physical 458 00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:56.480 thing, not a touch, not a running thing. I get it. 459 00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.359 This is that's the difference. But yeah, yeah, I think have to 460 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:05.000 have a level of understanding and respect. I don't know what you call it 461 00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:08.279 of the female athlete to say, you're just a good athlete and you beat 462 00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:10.880 and you won your state champion. You put that in there. I mean, 463 00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:15.799 that's part of the story too. It's part of the story about King 464 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:21.359 and Bobby Riggs, right, that whole thing. I think. I I'd 465 00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:23.880 like to just the way we don't talk about black quarterbacks anymore. I would 466 00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:29.440 like to think that we're of course that we would want to be past going 467 00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:31.440 to the guy and saying, how did you lose? To Sure? I 468 00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:34.920 get that. I get that, that's what I'm saying. I get that, 469 00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:38.039 and I understand what you get are saying. I just I don't think 470 00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:43.599 it's a wrong question. No, I mean no, And there were and 471 00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:46.480 there would be some people who would expect you to ask, right told me. 472 00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.079 Yeah, if I got told, I'm just not sure I would dwell 473 00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.680 on And I get it, I get it all right. Hey, I 474 00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:59.640 went and saw my old We got a few mores, my old uh Gregory 475 00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:04.200 School Hawks last week in their first round game. Man, they play with 476 00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.839 a lot of pressure. They were really you know, they look really good. 477 00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:10.920 They're in the state semis this week. One a basketball boys basketball Desert 478 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:15.079 Christian in them that those guys are amazing. You look at some of their 479 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:19.839 players and that what they're averaging scoring wise, I mean that those are some 480 00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.400 good teams. Yeah, but you know when I saw High is also really 481 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.640 good too. I'm sorry to They're twenty three and one. They're playing tonight. 482 00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:30.440 They had I don't know if you've ever heard this story of a of 483 00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:32.119 a team like this. They're twenty three and one, and they don't have 484 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:37.359 a guy who averages in double figure scoring. What nobody in double figures? 485 00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:42.720 Nobody averaging double figure scoring. They're their their their highest score is nine point 486 00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:45.519 seven points a game and they're twenty three and one. How many players do 487 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:49.519 they play? They have nine guys who average at least six points a game. 488 00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.759 So it's it's that's that's the definition of a team. I've never seen 489 00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:54.519 that before. And you guys are older than me, not not to date. 490 00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:59.920 You guys, you got nice shot. Nice shot. You question, 491 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:08.480 have you got beat my girl. Oh wow, co Man Hovey has been 492 00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:12.159 nice talking to you. Just to be the last time we talked to you. 493 00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:16.920 I feel like I just got slapped in the side of the head. 494 00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:20.960 But he is like a kid to you, I know he is. He 495 00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:23.119 is. Thank you, Hey, Hey, thanks a bunch man, and 496 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:27.280 we'll check in with you again later. All right, thanks for guys, 497 00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:30.960 Okay, bye bye. You know what, though I may be a lot 498 00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:34.119 older than him, I have way more hair. Yeah. Take that. 499 00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:40.400 If you're still listening, take that. You've never couldn HAREI exactly. All 500 00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:45.000 right, Oh god, okay, let's take our break. We'll be back. 501 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:45.800 We'll take your cause. Would love to hear from you. Five two 502 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:50.000 zero four one six, seventy four forty. If you're a neighbor's on a 503 00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.599 man's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly forty years. Now. 504 00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.760 Take a look back at the Ludelsen era in my new book, Lessons 505 00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:59.199 from Loot. 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A Team offers a fun and exciting opportunity to work in the sports 532 00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:57.719 and entertainment industry, with flexible schedules that are perfect for those looking for a 533 00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.320 part time job or a second income. Come a part of a winning team 534 00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:07.360 the A Team Apply online today at a Team security dot net. Extreamy Live, 535 00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:12.400 I Mean, iHeartRadio Act. This is I on the Ball with Steve 536 00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:17.320 Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to 537 00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:21.719 my in the baggaret Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Jak 538 00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:27.800 and Collis, two old dudes, as we found out. We know we're 539 00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.440 old UDEs. We just don't like to hear it, you know what, 540 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.039 And hobbs right around the corner again. Dude, I've got, I've got, 541 00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.679 I've got medicare coming up this year for you are old and who are 542 00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:42.239 old? Hey? Did you see this thing posted by I guess Joshua Rebholtz 543 00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:45.719 talking about Nils and I don't know who he's with, And they got a 544 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:50.719 lot of traction about nil. Opportunities for our student athletes aren't nice to have. 545 00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.920 They are must haves. The only way we can compete and win in 546 00:37:53.960 --> 00:38:00.239 the Big twelve or football is with healthy NIL program. Please invest in our 547 00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:02.440 student athletes. Blah blah blah. And then he's from you know, he's 548 00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:06.480 from somewhere. He's from, josh Rebolds. I'm not sure where he's from. 549 00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:10.280 But then one of the guys from Juve, the kid who's doing the 550 00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:15.440 jerseys, Quinn Magnuson, he came up with something that was pretty interesting, 551 00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:20.639 possible solutions for other things. You know, he's got you know he's selling 552 00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:23.159 this jersey and he's giving the proceeds to the kids to go to watch all 553 00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:29.360 right, Yes, he says possible solutions base nil for all players at ten 554 00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:31.880 to fifteen to twenty thousand dollars. Right, Okay, that's probably a year 555 00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:37.480 bonos, incentives for GPA levels, community service, on field, performance starts, 556 00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:42.000 all things that have a metric that you can kind of keep years with 557 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:45.159 the program are rewarded. Players get paid at each of the end of the 558 00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:51.480 semester for the thing. But in order to do those things, Okay, 559 00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:55.519 to do that, I believe that, you know, to be able to 560 00:38:55.559 --> 00:39:00.719 regulate and not even regulate it's not the right word, just to have some 561 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:05.800 sort of standards for compensation. Yeah, I think they have to be employees, 562 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:12.519 right, because if you're just if you're just an athlete and you're not, 563 00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:15.559 you know, an employee of the universe of the university. In order 564 00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:20.360 to be that athlete, right, then you should have the right to go 565 00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:23.079 get whatever you can get. Whereas if they require if they say, okay, 566 00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:27.039 if you want to play football at Arizona or anywhere, if you want 567 00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.880 to play college football, you want to play college sport and we're gonna pay 568 00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:32.719 you, and you're gonna get paid for it. You have to be an 569 00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:38.920 employee of that program or the university or whatever. And then you can because 570 00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:45.079 then you know, the market still bears what and you know what you're gonna 571 00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:46.199 pay. But you can say, Okay, we're gonna give you. We're 572 00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:50.320 gonna pay you X for this, X for that, X for that, 573 00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:54.360 and a school can have its pay grade just like you know, you know, 574 00:39:54.599 --> 00:40:00.320 employees of the University of Arizona don't make the same thing that employe of 575 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:04.000 the University of North Carolina. Right, So university is going to have its 576 00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:07.280 page scale and you know different pay grades. You know, the quarterback gets 577 00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:12.079 this or or you know, you get this much for playing your sport, 578 00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:15.840 you get this much for community service this much. The only way you can 579 00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:17.440 do that is by having those players be employees. I think, do you 580 00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:21.000 think eventually that's where we're gonna go? I think we are. Steve, 581 00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.360 I hate it, but I think I think because that's the only way they're 582 00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:27.639 gonna be able to rain this in. But that wasn't the initial goal. 583 00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:31.639 That was not the intent. So that's why that's because that's why they call 584 00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:36.920 it name, image, likeness. It's like you have those three things and 585 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:40.239 you get to benefit from those three things. What this is saying is in 586 00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:44.000 order to be an athlete, you have to be an employee, right, 587 00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:46.800 and that and like we just said, that wasn't the n's goal of doing 588 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:50.519 any of this. So I don't know if that will ever kind of come 589 00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:52.760 to fruition, though it might have. The courts may decide that though, 590 00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:58.559 right, But because they're they're you know, all these lawsuits that are happening 591 00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:04.519 are happening because the the intent of n I L the intent of it, 592 00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:07.360 Okay, what the what the n C double A envisioned of it is against 593 00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:14.320 the law basically by by putting parameters on it, you can't be parameters. 594 00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:15.639 And that was the intent, right, The intent was, Okay, let's 595 00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:20.320 let them make their money, but we got to have as they kept calling 596 00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:23.239 them, guardrails, and they're saying, you can't have guardrails in that kind 597 00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:27.159 of a system. So the only way they're ever going to fix that is 598 00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:30.119 if and the thing is, all the schools would have to agree. They 599 00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:32.480 would have to agree, but the U of A would have to say, 600 00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:35.800 Okay, you can only play for us if you're an employee, Well why 601 00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:38.480 if ayas U says it's wide open, you can come and you can make 602 00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:43.400 all the money you could ever want. What happens then you go? And 603 00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:46.719 then you go with schools like you of a who's a high profile school? 604 00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:51.599 What if you go to Grand Canyon University? Yeah? Like are they are 605 00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:55.559 those athletes going to be employed the same wages as an athlete here? Right? 606 00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.159 Right? And then then what happens? And what you know what one 607 00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.079 of the conversations here, let's say taking in the n C Double eight Tournament 608 00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:08.400 newcount Let's say Saint Peter's right, they're paying their their they're athletes are getting 609 00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:13.440 you know, five thousand dollars a year. Yeahday idea, and and uh, 610 00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:17.079 you know, Ohio States athletes are getting you know, fifty thousand dollars 611 00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:22.760 a year. Can you put them in the same tournament because they're they're completely 612 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:28.119 different classes of programs. I know that we have that now, but going 613 00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:30.840 forward, when you're talking about paying the athletes, you know, do they 614 00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:35.440 still get to do they still get to compete against the big boys? Well 615 00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.760 it's a big, big mess and we probably don't have a solution anytimes too 616 00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:42.079 one. We're not going to solve it in here, no, no, 617 00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:45.840 but yeah, yeah give it. Let let the three of us run this 618 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.360 damn show. Well it's I don't know if any of us wants. It's 619 00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:53.400 gonna be crazy. You continue to be crazy because they're getting paid even before 620 00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:59.000 showing up on the on campus exactly and seeing that and that. But if 621 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.079 you know, look, if you if you're looking at it, Let's say 622 00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:06.559 you're just applying for jobs and you see a job that fits your profile at 623 00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:08.079 the U of A, you see one at ASU, you see when at 624 00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:12.800 PEMA, you see when at NAU, and they all have their own payscale, 625 00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:15.239 and you're going to decide, Okay, I'll make a little less money 626 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:17.880 to work at a place that I think i'm gonna like more, or you're 627 00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:21.159 gonna say I want to make as much money as I possibly can, even 628 00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:22.760 if I hate it. You know, you make those decisions. Sure, 629 00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:28.119 and that that may be, But you know, again, if all the 630 00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:32.000 schools aren't doing that, you Let's say you have Ohio State saying okay, 631 00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:35.920 we have a we have a payscale for our athletes, and Michigan says, 632 00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:38.760 now it's nil and you get to make whatever you make. You know how 633 00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:43.280 you know, how does that work? Plus, let's say in Michigan you 634 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:45.400 say, okay, you're going to get the quarterback that wants to make two 635 00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:49.559 million dollars a year, but you're not going to get the volleyball player who 636 00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.480 knows they can make more by going to the school that has a payscale. 637 00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:55.440 Right, So how often are you with mkill in that area? Like? 638 00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:00.840 Yeah, I mean almost daily. I go to the every day. Okay, 639 00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:06.159 So do you notice do you notice there's a difference in I don't know 640 00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.039 what the kids are driving or are they're driving? Do you notice that there's 641 00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:14.360 money there now for the kids? Honestly? No, And even as someone 642 00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:19.280 that's been here for now five years kind of seeing quote and after yeah, 643 00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:22.960 quote kind of before the boom of nil to like what it was before, 644 00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:29.320 I haven't noticed, even in when I've met the people or in my interactions 645 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:32.280 or even just seeing them in passing whatever. Personally, the athletes here that 646 00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:35.719 have been here as long as I have, or at what I've seen, 647 00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:39.400 haven't they're not driving a different fronts. They're not They're not Yeah, they're 648 00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:46.639 not out on weekends or whatever's like paying for everything or like the the quote 649 00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:51.599 unquote wealth that some of these athletes may have is not I don't see it. 650 00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.280 No, it's not. It's not one bit. And I think maybe 651 00:44:55.280 --> 00:45:00.840 that speaks to the athletes as people like who they are, but maybe it's 652 00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:06.159 just how it is University of University like these kids. Not every single athlete 653 00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:10.360 or not even every single kind of high profile athlete is getting loads and loads 654 00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:15.599 of money. Sure, Like I'll use like Pelly Larson for example, it's 655 00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:19.039 just the conference player of the week. Like if you went and asked him 656 00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:22.360 how much actual money he's benefiting from this, it will be it would probably 657 00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:28.320 be less than you think. Probably I think he's a bad example in as 658 00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:31.679 much as he's an international guy. But okay, Caleb gets your point. 659 00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:37.119 Yeah, no, I hear you. I think the guys like Noah and 660 00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:42.559 Tam t Mac, those guys are benefiting both. If you're an athlete, 661 00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:45.480 and I said this to Jay when this all started, you're the quarterback and 662 00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:49.159 you're making x amount of money, a decent amount of money, and in 663 00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:52.480 the center that's giving you the ball isn't making a decent amount of money. 664 00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:57.000 And you're the center. How'd you feel, Yeah, I feel I feel 665 00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:01.440 like partially like because why they're so good is partially en route because of what 666 00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:06.119 I'm doing, Like he wouldn't be as good if I didn't protect as well 667 00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:08.719 as I can and so, but I also think there is some notion that 668 00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:14.480 like that's somewhat of an expectation, like if you're a center and you go 669 00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:20.400 to you of a, you know that you're gonna be protecting Fafita who's making 670 00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:24.800 an I own money. And I hope that like I'll make some do whatever, 671 00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:28.559 But like I didn't, I hope that a lot of these kids don't 672 00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:31.880 go to schools for just how much money they can make an io wise, 673 00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:37.320 and I talk like I talk like offensive linemen. I talk like tight ends 674 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:39.920 that may that aren't going to be getting an i ow money wherever you're talking 675 00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:43.679 like Jadfish, do you think, well, do you think that's past? 676 00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:47.280 Well? But but Steve, I did you know I did hear you know 677 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:53.360 one of those n Cuba business guys who said that actually that that that the 678 00:46:53.400 --> 00:47:00.519 way the market is developing that linemen, particularly often of linemen, just like 679 00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:06.800 in the NFL, are making a lot of money because the importance, right, 680 00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:09.920 because coaches know the importance of having those guys, so they are getting 681 00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:14.519 you know, we sit here and think the offensive lineman nobody knows who they 682 00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:19.880 are, so they can be. But offensive linemen are actually what I'm what 683 00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:23.639 I've heard in the nil market, are actually very valuable because if you're going 684 00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:28.119 to be giving a quarterback two million bucks or a million bucks a year, 685 00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:30.760 well you better make sure you've got guys who aren't going to let him get 686 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:34.239 killed. Yeah, well that's what that So that the market is kind of 687 00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:38.760 developing the way the NFL does is because we hear about the offensive lineman, 688 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:43.800 you know, the left tackle, right, the stud left tackle who's making 689 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:47.239 you know, ten million bucks a year because he's protecting their forty million dollars 690 00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:52.760 a year quarterback. So so that that they said, the common thinking is 691 00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:59.159 that the college linemen aren't getting that nil money, when that actually they say 692 00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:01.800 that they are. And there's another thing that we talked about when this all 693 00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:07.880 started. Would you rather go to a smaller school Tucson not soon say Shue, 694 00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:12.000 but smaller school or usc U c l A given that it's a college 695 00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:15.880 town, but the little resources are limited. But loyal or U c l 696 00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:21.960 A those bigger schools where you have a lot of opportunities, but you're tenth 697 00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:25.440 and the seventh in the total pole in terms of Rams, Chargers, Lakers, 698 00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:30.119 YadA, YadA, And the money is kind of not from as a 699 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:31.920 college athlete, right right, right, And look we're already hearing it for 700 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:36.079 U c l A. There's no money, no money, there's no money. 701 00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:38.639 I was gonna say, it depends how good you are, right because 702 00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:44.480 because Caleb Willis wasn't going to have a problem. Even guys that end up 703 00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.400 if you're a five star or you're a high level transfer. It's like those 704 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:52.199 guys probably aren't gonna have that big of an issue finding an an il deal 705 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:54.760 of some sort. Right, So it's it's again the haves and the have 706 00:48:54.960 --> 00:49:00.239 nuts, right Like, I don't know, it's a it's the wild West. 707 00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:02.679 No, and it's going to be that way for a while, you 708 00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:07.400 know, I don't I feel sorry for those smaller schools. Yeah, it's 709 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:13.320 true, but but but that's just the way it is. That is I 710 00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:16.559 mean it, I was thinking about it. It went from so before all 711 00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:21.159 nil came and even like the transfer portal, it was like Okay, where 712 00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:23.320 can A lot of it was where can I go and play? Or if 713 00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:28.320 you knew that you wanted to go to Notre Dame to play football, even 714 00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:30.880 if you were a four star, you would you would take not playing to 715 00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:35.079 go to Notre Dame. But or on the flip side, it's like, 716 00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:38.840 okay, I could go to East Carolina and start right away. That used 717 00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:42.760 to be what it was all about, where can I go play? And 718 00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:46.599 now there's where can I go play? Where can But now where can I 719 00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:50.719 go get money and play? And where can I go get money if I 720 00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:54.320 don't play? All there's so much more to this now than what it was 721 00:49:54.360 --> 00:50:00.199 of kids just should want to play football, And that's that's the reality of 722 00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:04.280 it. But it's a sad reality, that's true. That's a great point 723 00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:07.239 one hundred percent. I mean, you know, we're I was just having 724 00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:10.599 this conversation with somebody yesterday. It's like, you know, how many athletes 725 00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:16.519 you know are are going to stick around in college because they know that they're 726 00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:21.880 not going to make that money, you know, right like for like, 727 00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:23.559 for instance, I used the example of Zulis to ballots. Right, if 728 00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:28.320 you had been getting a decent amount of nil money, he probably would have 729 00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:31.119 stayed another year. Yeah. Right, But then but let's say you got 730 00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:35.360 you got somebody like, uh, I don't know, just you know, 731 00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:37.880 somebody who knows they're not going to probably they're gonna be a seventh round draft 732 00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:42.159 pick in the NF in the NFL, right, and they're they're you know, 733 00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:45.639 they've had their for they can they have one more year of eligibility left. 734 00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:49.639 They're really good on their college team, and so they're making two hundred 735 00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:52.679 thousand dollars. You think they're not going to stay another year and taking another 736 00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:54.920 two hundred thousand dollars instead of jump to the NFL. You know the best 737 00:50:54.960 --> 00:51:00.679 example of that is the w n Bay where they're making They're make more money 738 00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:04.960 now than the Kayalen Clark is going to make the road Man. Maybe she 739 00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:08.400 will, I mean salary wise, the endorsements, right, but but that's 740 00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:12.679 the case. You know, did Michael Wiley, you know, get a 741 00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:15.880 healthy, you know, amount of nil money to cause him to stick around 742 00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:21.199 one more year? And you know, with the understand knowing that, yeah, 743 00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:22.119 do I have a future in the NFL? I think I do, 744 00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:25.880 but it's not guaranteed. Yeah, And I'm not gonna I'm gonna have to 745 00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:29.599 go through the combine. I gotta go through the Senior Bowl, and I 746 00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.280 gotta hope somebody I get I get picked by a team that that I fit 747 00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:37.679 with all these unknowns. So he says, what I do know is if 748 00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:42.800 I stay here for another year, I get to make another six figures or 749 00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:45.239 something that will help me guaranteed. And that was I think that was an 750 00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:51.480 intention of making this happen. You wanted college kids to stay for their team, 751 00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:54.239 and now it's it's a combination of you want them to stay sure, 752 00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:59.079 but this transfer portal is everlasting. So now it's like they're staying in college, 753 00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:01.280 but they're playing for different teams in three years, right. So that's 754 00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:06.280 it's counterintuitive in a way of if the transfer portal was a little more limited, 755 00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:08.760 then you would actually get to know these guys who were playing for you 756 00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:14.159 of a year after year, and they're staying because they know they can make 757 00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:16.559 a little bit more money as opposed to being a six round draft pick or 758 00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:22.159 going undrafted for basketball. So there's the clash of those two things, which 759 00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:25.239 that they don't help each other. You got to go because you got to 760 00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:29.519 get to work yep, all right, coming, right, coming, right 761 00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:31.519 after the break breaking news with Sammy