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So how do we talk about the
break. We were just taking the summer

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off. I have a child who
finished school, and you have a job,

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had family over and stuff and different
things, and so we just decided

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to take the summer off because autumnus
mora vibes. Anyway, It honestly is.

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We drive between between the months of
like mid August to like mid December,

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We're like, fuck, yeah,
anyways, we're back. Me I'm

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Megan, welcome back to give us
morgue. You guys, did you miss

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us? I bet they wanted more? He hit it. I mean it

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to be fair, guys, I
was going to say we've gone a whole

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three years without using that, but
no, I think we've definitely said something

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along those lines before, probably when
we came back from a long break.

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To listen, we deserve breaks too, you know, life is for living,

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babes. We gotta do it.
I gotta do it. No,

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not that I'd be doing like a
whole lot of crazy shit. Like I'm

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like, they bullied me at work
the other day because I was like,

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oh, I love going to the
cinema. It's like it's an outing,

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it's an experience, and they're like, Megan, she needs to leave the

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house more. But the cinema isn't
outing you get your popcorn. Last time,

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I went to see the Barbie Movie, which was brilliant, by the

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way. Spoilers Okay, no,
no, I won't say anything, but

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I will tell you to wear waterproof
mascara. We haven't had a chance to

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go see it just because child and
all. That makes it difficult. But

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I'm really I really want to see
it. I was talking to somebody here

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and they were like, Oh,
I don't want to go see it because

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it's just about her, like trying
to get feeling back in her what did

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she call it, her new new
I was like, what, I hadn't

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even seen the movie at this point, and I was like, first of

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all, how is that different to
the Little Mermaid? Isn't a little Mermaid

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just trying to fuck? Isn't she
trying to get her legs and her to

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dance or to marry whatever? The
prince. I'm so confused by that statement.

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Yeah, where did you even get
that from? Okay, we've done

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a very brief catch up, but
I'm sure we'll catch up more as the

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show goes on. But the show
does have to go on. So today

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I have a case. Now.
One of the big reasons why I've taken

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such a long break, but like
we've taken such a long break is because

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true crime is getting It's just it's
very heavy, I think, as everybody

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knows, and we all need to
sometimes take a break from even listening to

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true crime. Yeah. I was
watching Bailey Sarrian the other day and even

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like she was like she was on
about Lori Valos finally being convicted, and

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she was like, there's a lot
happening in the true crime world right now,

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like present day, and I think
it's just made it like extra difficult

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to research and stuff. Yeah,
it definitely has. And then I think,

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I don't, are we all just
having the same anxiety this year?

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It's like the pandemic is Like I
never I was one of those teenagers and

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young adults. I was like,
what is anxiety? You know, Yeah,

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you felt maybe nervous before an interview, But now I will wake up

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and I'm like, oh, where's
that medication? Can't leave the house unless

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I take that little pink pills.
Companies to date met that day guy.

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Yeah, Yeah, I don't know
if it's like the effects of the pandemic

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and as we return back to like
it's almost like a new normal life.

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It's not fully normal as pre pandemic, but it's like more normal than during

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the pandemic. But now it's like, what keeps making that noise? What

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is the noise? I don't know. It sounds like it's coming from like

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a computer, but nothing is like
popping up on my computer. Oh my

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god, what if this show?
What if this episode gets cursed by the

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curse of Give us More? I
mean, like every other episode we've ever

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recorded, literally, we wouldn't be
one of our shows. Yeah, I

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almost anticipate what will go wrong today. I know. It's like it surprises

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us every time. It's always something
new. It's always something we don't know

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how to control, a void or
fix. And then it's like, oh,

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let I message you, and I'm
like, hey, so when don't

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you free? Because we got to
re record it so fun little update.

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I'll never forget the time. It
was like an hour and a half long

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episode. I think it was one
of the Golden State ones. And I

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got to the end and the whole
like last ten minutes was just aliens speak,

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like our microphone is completely scrambled.
It was what I don't I think.

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I actually shut the laptop and I
had to walk away from night.

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You were like, I can't do
it today. That's speak Jim Megan's problem.

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The reason why I mentioned that true
crime has been very heavy is because

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today we're just going to be dipping, dipping our toes back into the water,

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just a little, just a little
dip, dip test the waters,

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you know. Hold, is it
going to scare us for the rest of

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our lives? This case may actually
so it's a wild case, but it

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happened so long ago, and there's
a lot of discussion online over whether it's

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actually true or not. Now I
am fully convinced that this is true,

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but I do think there is quite
a lot of discrepancies in this case,

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which we will talk about as we
go through. But it's it's a wild

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one, so let's get started.
So originally, when I was looking for

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this case, I was looking for
something different. I was looking for cases

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of consensual homicide, which we will
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of just led me down this slow, this case and rabbit hole exactly.

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That's exactly what happened. I read
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you know, in one of those
lists, and I was like,

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Okay, I need to know more. I need to know everything actually about

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this. Okay, So to talk
about this, we first need to talk

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about something called the Lorber Society.
It all began when Acobloarber, a teacher

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born in Slovenia, started to hear
something he called an inner voice, and

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that inner voice just so happened to
be none other than Jesus. Ding ding

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ding ding ding ding ding. You
got it. It's always fucking Jesus.

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It's always told me to do it. Jesus told me to do it.

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No, Jesus told you nothing because
he's not real. Whoa whoa whoa whoa

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whoa whoa except when I can't find
something or No, that's Saint Anthony,

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isn't it. Yeah, it's saft
Anthony. But you know, and you're

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like, please, Jesus, if
you do this one thing for me,

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I'll start going to truth. I
promise I will. And so this guy,

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Jacob Larber, would transcribe everything that
Jesus spoke to him, which ended

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up being over ten thousand pages,
which resulted in multiple books. No one

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wants to read your fucking Kazilian,
long paged book on what Jesus quote unquote

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told you to do. You'd be
surprised this this guy's he got popular,

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but I personally found him actually quite
difficult to research. Like his wiki page

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is so long and so wordy that
I'm like, he definitely wrote it himself.

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This is like back in the eighteen
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wrote that himself. I think the
eighteen I don't know. It was a

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long ass time ago. Okay,
there's a picture. There's a photograph of

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him. It was basically well before
wiki as we know it. He like

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pre wrote it. He was like, if ever this thing called winky gets

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popular, but this is my information, that would be terrible fighting God Christ

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tell him to Yeah. Well.
In a direct quote from that wiki page,

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it says, quote oh amazing.
In the Great Gospel of John,

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Jesus explains that he is the creator
of the material universe, which was designed

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as both a confinement of Satan and
so we could take upon himself the position

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of man. He says he did
this to inspire his children, who could

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otherwise not perceive him in his primordial
form as a spirit. Oh, why

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can't we see him as a spirit. Why you hiden in the shadows,

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Jesus. Why hiden in the shadows? Yeah? Why you Hyden might hiden

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Jesus? Is it because after you
were done? She wasn't it was not

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so virgin Mary Jesus. Oh,
that's his mom, Jesus Christ. Well

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that tis in really well with the
story. Oh oh no. The Bible

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is fun to mock, and we
are allowed to say that because we grew

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up with it. So I'm allowed
to say that because I'm technically Christian Catholic

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or are they the same? Good
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I don't know anymore. Okay,
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not all Christians are Roman Catholic.
Okay, so I'm Catholic, but I

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am not Christian. But if you're
Christian, you're Catholic. No, you

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are a Catholic. So you are
a Christian and know is that what you

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just said? Yeah? No,
So I'm Catholic, so therefore I'm a

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Christian. But if you were a
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Yes, exactly. One of the
questions here on Google is do Catholics believe

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that Jesus that Jesus do Catholics believe
that that Jesus the greatest question of all

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time? So Jacob Larbert also wrote
about free will and the importance of free

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will, basically emphasizing how humans can
use their free will and choose if they

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would like to live in harmony or
contrary to God's will. I'm gonna live

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in country because I'm a rebel.
Whoa, whoa, Calm down. You

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know when the rapture comes, you're
going to be left here with the burning

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everything. Yeah, well I'll look
super cool at any tats. So yeah,

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I'll be hanging out with every fucking
thing. Arounmy is on fire.

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I'll just show everybody like my right
titty that says good vibes. Hey,

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guys, we've got some good vibes. It's okay. We're gonna be okay,

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like pure toxic positivity. He didn't
Laubert didn't want to leave the Catholic

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Church, but he wanted them to
adopt his writings, to take them on.

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Bro, what makes you think the
Catholic tricks? Have you met them?

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What they did to him was like
so much worse. In eighteen sixty

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nine, the Vatican cancel put his
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That it's a list of books that
are forbidden for Catholics tread. And it's

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a shame because I was really looking
forward to reading those ten thousand pages about

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what USU said to Jacob. Look
listen, I know I said earlier no

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one wants to read those, but
really I did. But now I can't

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because them Catholics. So sorry,
Yeah, shame oa, gosh darn.

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Now what will I do with my
spare time? It sins? Committing sins

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and treacherous accins. I mean,
I guess now all I'll have to do

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is commit sins. Although would that
mean then I get to read the book?

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Because then if that does mean I
get to read the book, I'll

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just follow the Catholics loophole loophole leaves
done it and then just go to it.

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Then just go to a church and
be like, forgive me Father,

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for I have sinned. Oh yeah, and then then you're forgiven and then

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you get into you get into heaven
anyway. Yeah, just like with like

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Jeffrey Dahmer and all of the other
petos and serial killers who accepted Christ.

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Did you just liken me to serial
killers and petos No at this point,

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though, I don't think laur were
cared too much because he was dead and

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he died in August of eighteen sixty
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His books were published after his death. So can you imagine how ship that

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would be if all of your like, if all your life's findings. Yeah,

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and then you die after you like
submit it to the church to be

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like, hey, follow you know, like guys, yeah, guys,

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I found a way to make the
Catholic religion better. And then you die

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and then the Catholic Church are like
for Bowden, shunned, shunned, shunned.

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That would be so fun. So
then does that mean that he's in

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heaven? And then the like heads
of the Catholic Church are like for Bowden.

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And then Jesus goes, oh,
oh you're oh, I just got

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word. Your books have been for
Boden. Hell imagine and Jesus is the

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one. Hey, hey, I
don't make the rules, buddy, I

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just enforced him. I'm sorry,
just came from the Big G. So

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so some people tried to posthumously diagnose
Lorber with mental illness, okay, just

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because he had like yeah, people
were like, he's clearly schizophrenic. I

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mean he might not be. He
might just be a like religious not you

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know, or maybe Jesus did come
to him or yeah, well that is

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also trimmy. You never know,
We just because we don't experience these things

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doesn't actually mean that the man was
schizophrenic. Yeah, literally, And that's

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what other others thought. They were
like, oh fuck, yeah, they

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loved his work and he actually gained
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Oh yeah, he wasn't alive to
see it, I know. So

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from my understanding, it's not like
there's like one big cult or compound.

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It's more people practicing this like privately
in their own home and like different sex,

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like the way that you would with
like religion, like with Christianity.

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And but there's no like a church. No, there's no church. There's

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no but like you just you know, you follow your beliefs at home,

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like this man's beliefs. Yeah,
you adapt as your own beliefs. So

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at this time, the followers of
this branch Catholicism or Christianity, whatever,

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they practiced a lot of self denial. So they're like, no, I

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can't like I cannot have that chocolate
pearer. That's that's made it alf denial.

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I could do with some of that
self denial of being completely honest.

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Yeah, that would be great.
Where do I find this Man's just a

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disclaimer. We're not mocking religion.
Well we are slightly, but like your

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beliefs, so you're believed these are
are beliefs. Yeah, that's why we're

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like mocking it. Like you're entitled
to your own belief system. I'm not

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going to like slate you for it. Each to their own, you know,

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each to their own. Like you
can have your beliefs. You can

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believe this man's shite if you want. Yeah, from what Megan's saying,

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please don't because it gets bad.
But you know, kids, it's kind

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Yeah, it's kind of bad as
long as you don't hurt anybody. WHOA

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did you hear that they're doing fireworks
outside? I could hear that through through

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my earphones. It's nuts. Malta
comment with the fireworks I know every single

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fucking day, like morning and midday
and at night. It's on the morning

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and midday, like the noise is
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I don't know. Okay, I
have Malta been reading this man's maybe so.

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Yeah. The people that believed this, they also believed that everyone outside

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of the society was with the devil, an impure or evil or bad news.

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So, oh my god, they
think I'm bad news. Yeah,

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yeah, I do. So they
wouldn't associate themselves with you. They would

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make as little contact with the public
as they possibly could. I mean since

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retweet, oh no, we have
to say reposting it because Twitter is X.

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Don't get me stud that made me
way too angry. I also hate

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it. I missed that. I
didn't tweet at all, but I missed

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the little tweetie burden. You know, I very rarely used the app,

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but I'm sure it's hell going to
use it less. It looks like I

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have a porn app on my phone. Oh my god, it really does.

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I really hate it so much,
like more than I should, because

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it's not that deep. Have you
seen those people that pay for the subscriptions

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and it comes up on their banking
apps, like a subscription to X dot

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com And like one guy's parents were
like, this is really inappropriate. We

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gave you this card for emergencies and
it's Twitter. Well, why are you

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paying for Twitter. Yeah, don't
don't do that, almost like paying for

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porn. Hope, why are you
doing that? What's worth it? Really?

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Okay, I have an admission to
make and I realized this, necesse,

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I can't pay for porn up.
No, I pay for YouTube.

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Meg it you know why it's so
worth it? Yeah? YouTube music as

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well. So like Paramore and fall
up Boy and a whole bunch of different

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bands. They have like a little
of demos that are not on Spotify or

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Apple Music. So no, I
was gonna say, but I have Spotify,

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but if you get stuff that's not
on Spotify, I guess that's a

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little bonus. Yeah, it is. I don't even know how much it

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is a month, and that's not
even it's like fifteen year old, I

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think, I know, I know, but like I don't watch television.

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I don't watch Netflix so much.
I watch YouTube. You know what I

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mean? Okay? Yeah? YouTube? Yeah, Well it's if it's you're

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like go to more so than Netflix
or that I can understand paying it because

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Netflix is that. So yeah,
that's where I was going with that.

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No, even when I'm going to
sleep on YouTube, I put on those

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like you know, the like you're
sitting by a fire and it's grapplings.

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I listened to those. Okay,
so guys, I'm twenty eight and I

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just passed my theory tests. Congratulations, which just means I'm a learner.

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I can't drive on a company,
but you know, baby steps, baby

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steps. The night before the test
I listened to I listened to guided meditations

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before bed to like help with my
sleep and my anxiety and stuff. And

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I listened to an anxiety free exam
one before bed. You gotta do what

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you gotta do. Bit you got
forty out of forty, so I got

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one hundred percent. Slide. You
killed it. I don't think I've ever

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got one hundred percent of tests before
ever in my life. I did once

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and I got bullied for it.
Rude. I probably did to be fair,

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But you know, I miss taking
tests. I miss feeling somewhat smart.

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No, I hate tests. Tests
give me anxiety. Like tests make

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my anxiety worse. I never was
somebody that suffered with anxiety, but I

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definitely have exam anxiety. Really mhmm, I can't remember if I had exam

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anxiety. No, I actually did
really bad my leaving shirt because I have

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such like severe exam anxiety. Really
that like it like stopped me from like

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answering questions because I like would be
like, oh god frozen. Yeah fuck

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yeah. I think with my leaving
sirt, I'd given up before I'd even

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walked in. So it's like,
yeah, it's it's gonna be what it's

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gonna be. I could know the
answer, like sitting here now, I

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could be like, yeah, this
is the answer, and then as soon

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as you put me in like an
exam situation, I'm like, how do

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I spell my name? I don't. I think I felt that for my

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oral for my Irish exam, the
oral part of it, I started speaking

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German and she stopped the tape and
she was like, do you want to

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start again? I was like,
you're an angel, because it was like

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as soon as I opened my mouth, so we hadn't even gotten fair and

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yeah no, Like in the theory
test, like I was answering the questions

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and like I was like, oh
my god, I know this and I

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know this and I know that.
But then I was like almost afraid to

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get cocky because yeah, I for
sure thought any goodles, let's go.

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Yeah. So the reason why that
is all relevant everything about Jacob Lorber.

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It's because of the absolute gorilla grip
that this branch of Christianity had on Harold

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Alexander Young. Harold was making a
living for himself and his family as a

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stonemason in Dresden in Germany. It
was here in Dresden that world met a

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man named George Real, and I
believe that's how he's how you pronounce his

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second name or I e hla,
it's either real or royal. Yeah,

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we'll call him George. He was
at the time the leader of the Laerber

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Society. They got close really fast
because Harold had always been religious, so

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when he kind of found us,
he was like, Oh, my fucking

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God, this is my ship,
this is my jam. So Harold actually

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moved with his wife Dagmar and his
daughter Marina to Hamburg, and I believe

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that was to be closer to George. Then George got sick, and it

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said that Harold went to his bedside
as he lay dying, and George appointed

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him as the next leader of the
Laerber Society. Now, from my research,

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nobody was actually here to witness this, so it could be a appointed

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thing. Harold does emerge and was
like, so, would you believe me

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if I said George appointed And then
someone was like yeah, probably. He

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was like, yes, George appointed
me. That's literally exactly what happened.

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He came out of there after George
died, and he was like, I

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I am the leader, and everybody
in this society pretty much just accepted it.

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They were like, okay, cool, sweet cool. So as the

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new leader, he adopted some new
beliefs, one of them being that the

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Prophet was coming back to Earth and
that he would know who the prophet was

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the second he laid eyes on him. Harold, shut your horror, lying

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now right now. Of course,
when Dagmar gave birth to their son,

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Frank Alexander in nineteen fifty four,
Harold immediately knew that he was the prophet

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and everyone was to obey his every
wish. Convenient it was your son,

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Harold, Yeah, how did that
one? In a middle chance? Now,

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I think we can all see how
giving a child this kind of power

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is gonna like, oh my god, yeah, it's not gonna end well

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at all. No, it's not, and it didn't. He would make

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you go mad even if you gave
me the slightest bit of power. So

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Yeah, the Alexander family had to
serve Frank's every demand, no matter how

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big and no matter how small.
Now, as Frank got older, what

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happens when you're when you're a teenager, what what becomes to you? Because

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I'm the prophet, Like Jesus told
me to sleep with you and you hit

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the nail on the head, Except
it's much worse than that. So yeah,

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he definitely became very interested in sex
and girls, but he would never

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even dream of polluting himself with the
impure and evil girls his own age,

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not within the society. So Frank
had a great idea. So he went

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to his dad and he was like, instead of me dirtying myself, what

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if I just have sex with my
mom and my sisters and that's a hard

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pass. Well, Harold was like, why didn't I think of that?

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That is a fantastic idea, Frank, Harold, They're like, fuck,

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I did say we all had to
obey you? Yeah, yeah, well

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no, he genuinely was on board
with this. He was like, this

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is a fucking fantastic idea. What
the hell is wrong with people? Just

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what? What? What is wrong
with people? So it was agreed that

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Frank was going to have relations with
his mother Dagmar and his sisters, as

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Dagmar had also given birth to two
twin girls at roughly fifteen to sixteen years

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previously, Petra and Sabine. Now, so it began, and sometimes Harold

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will even join in. So this
is like a big gross incest party.

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Yeah. Now these two girls else, the sisters, apart from Marina,

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I believe she was like eighteen,
Like Petro and Sabine are underage very much.

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They're only sixteen fifteen. Yeah,
so this is just straight up raping

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his sisters. So while I let
you digest that, let's take a short

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break. So we are back from
the break, and I hope you've had

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a little moment to just understand that
what is happening right now is that Frank

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is the son and the prophet and
he is now having sex with his mother

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and raping his sisters because he didn't
want to ruin the purity of himself.

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And although we were joking, it's
actually quite serious and quite disgusting, and

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oh it's absolutely and he'll most certainly
be rotting in hell. Frank would show

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more interest in his older sister Marina
and his mother Dagmar than he was to

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the two younger sisters, Petra and
Sabine. I mean in some sense,

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I don't mean this to be in
one sense, thank god, because like

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at least they're of age, but
it's still your sister and your mother still

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sick. Definitely. And one day
one of the twins was at school and

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I'm not sure if it was Petra
or Sabine, and she was just telling

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her friend as she felt a bit
jealous that she was not receiving the same

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amount of attention as her other female
family members did. I'm sure they were

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told, like, you don't tell
anybody what's going on outside of this house.

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But you know, I'm sure she's
like, oh, Frankie, just

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you know, seems to prefer my
mom and my older sister. Now.

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Of course, this starts a rumor
around the ancestual relationship of the family within

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the school, which then reached the
parents and eventually the police. And the

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police actually took this rumor really seriously, and they had either opened an investigation

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or were about to open when the
Alexander family heard of their interest. So

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they decided to get the allot a
Dodge and they moved to thirty seven Jesus

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Nazarino Street in the town of Santa
Cruz and ten A Reef, supposedly at

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the will of God, not at
the will of the family or in the

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dad being like, oh shit,
we're going to be put in prison.

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I'm sure, I'm sure. I
totally believe that they were able to afford

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the move thanks to inheritance given to
Dagmar from her parents. They may have

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left their home, but they settled
in pretty quickly in ten A Reef.

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Sabine, one of the twins,
got a job as a housemaid, and

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I believe Frank got a job as
a delivery man. The locals didn't know

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much about the family, but they
were known for having allowed organ music coming

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from the apartment. They continued to
practice their faith privately and for about ten

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months the incest relationship continued, or
should they say the sexual abuse, because

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that's what it actually is. And
that was until the morning of December twenty

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first, nineteen seventy. All of
the family except for Sabine, we're at

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home. Sabine was at her boss's
house working, so at one point during

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the day, Harold and Dagmar go
in to have a little mid day nap

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and Frank just heads on into the
room and he just sits on the side

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of the bed and it's just chilling. When apparently Dagmar turned and looked at

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Frank in a quote suggestive way.
I'm sure she did. It made Frank

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blind with rage. He was pissed
with this look. Frank announced that the

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killing hour was upon them. Oh, the killing hour was something that had

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actually been spoken about. Well,
the killing hour was something that had actually

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been spoken about within the family for
a while now. The family believed that

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women were evil, which okay,
and that the only way that women could

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go to heaven was by giving up
their physical body and sacrifice. Okay.

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So Harold and Frank were like,
sometimes we really want to murder you,

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So we're gonna do that sometime,
but we're gonna word it so that it's

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like you're sacrificing yourself for heaven.
Yeah. Cool. You don't really have

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a faith, so it's cool.
Okay, we laugh. It's not funny.

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It's really not funny because this happens
every single day. But okay,

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I did read something about Eve coming
from Adam's rib and that makes women just

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an imitation of man or something like
that. I don't know. It's all

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we are to you, isn't it
just a rib? Anyway, when the

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killing hour was announced, all of
the women in the family were to stop

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what they were doing and start to
prepare themselves, which is exactly what Dagmer

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did. Frank got a wooden clothes
hanger and started to beat her over the

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head with it. To make it
easier for her son, she turned lay

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on her stomach and put her arms
down by her side. No call nine

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one one. But can you imagine
the image of brainwashing that has had to

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have happened in this family for this, just for that act. Yeah,

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Harold at this point jumped out of
bed like the old man from Charlie and

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took the factory in excitement. This
motherfucker hopped his ass out of bed and

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Rand go start playing the organ while
his son is beating up his wife.

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All of the noise pulled Marina and
Petra from their rooms, and when they

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saw what was going on, the
two girls just sat in the middle of

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the living room floor with their arms
down by their sides, waiting for their

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brother, the chosen One, to
come and sacrifice them. So he does.

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Frank heads on into the living room
and killed his sisters the same way

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he had killed his mother. Now
this is something I really don't get,

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because what in the world was he
doing with that coat hanger that would have

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killed them? Like I can see
a wooden coat hanger being enough to knock

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somebody out, but to kill them, Like, I don't understand. How

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do you do that with a coat
hanger? Do you like break it?

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And I don't know, I'm not
Yeah, he either broke it and was

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using it as like to stab them. The amount of like physical force and

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the amount of beats it would take
to like beat someone to death with a

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wooden coat hanger, I imagine it
is quite a lot. No, it

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definitely would be. But this is
this is kind of what makes all of

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this worse when you hear what happens
next. It's very likely that these three

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women are just unconscious, all right. Once the girls were either dead or

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unconscious, Frank went into the kitchen
and he got a knife and I believe

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his par scissors, And then Frank
and Harold took turns in removing parts of

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the women's bodies, so parts of
a woman that are really sexualized. This

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sliced the breasts, off of each
woman, as well as parts of their

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vaginas, and then they nailed them
to the apartment wall. What the fuck.

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Not only that, but they went
in and broke Dagmar's chest in to

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retrieve her heart before wrapping it in
cord and also nailing it to the wall.

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I just want you to keep in
mind that the guys are like taking

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turns, so when one gets tired, they go play the organ while the

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other starts cutting the women's bodies.
Yeah, they're like taking it in turns

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to like regenerate their energy. Yeah, it's disgusting. Now. Once this

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is all done, the two men
apparently literally danced and saying around the apartment,

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rejoicing in what they've done, because
for them, they have just released

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their female family members, sold into
heaven. Right, So apparently that night

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they went and slept in another apartment
that they owned. The next morning,

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on December twenty second, the two
men go to knock on doctor Trenkler's door.

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Sabine, one of the twins,
the other one that wasn't in the

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home that morning, had stayed the
night to try and get a job done.

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So Harold and Frank are there at
the door and doctor Trenkler goes to

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get Sabine, who's in the kitchen
and preparing a meal. Sabine comes to

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the door and Harold tells her quote, Sabine, dear, we wanted you

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to know at once that Frank and
I have just finished killing your mother and

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your sisters. Sabine, as the
story goes, takes her father's hand and

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presses it against her cheek, and
she says, I'm sure you've done what

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was necessary. Now I have questions
about this. Would you not be like

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destroyed, Like I don't care how
brainwashed you were, Okay, you would

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be so upset that your mother and
your sisters are dead? You would you

435
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would have to be. The reason
we have this information is because the doctor

436
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actually went and he was standing behind
the door so he could hear everything.

437
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Now, my thing is, wouldn't
they have spoken German to each other?

438
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I never even thought of that.
The doctor may have also spoke German,

439
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.480
or they were speaking Spanish to each
other. I don't know, but yeah,

440
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there, I mean, there is
definitely like inconsistencies exactly. So the

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doctor immediately calls the police because he's
like, what the fuck. So the

442
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:30.039
story goes that he heard Harold and
Frank say this to Sabine, and he

443
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immediately went and locked himself in a
room and called the police from the room.

444
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:40.920
There's also another version of the story
where Harold sees the doctor and he

445
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:45.159
turns to him and he's like,
oh, yeah, we just you know,

446
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the killing hour happened, So we
killed my wife and my girls just

447
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so you know, you know usual. So when the police arrived, the

448
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:59.639
boys are still there. Harold and
Frank are still there, and they're like

449
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very open about what they've done.
They're like, yeah, yeah, the

450
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:06.000
killing Hour happened, and we killed
them, like we released their souls to

451
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heaven. So the police go to
the apartment and find the blood bat that

452
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:15.760
was left behind. Yeah. Again, they're not hiding anything. They fully

453
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:20.320
believed that they've done an amazing,
brilliant, good, honorable thing. They

454
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:24.079
genuinely don't see what's wrong with what
they've done. I have a quote here

455
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quote. I saw that mother was
looking at me, and I had the

456
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.199
feeling that it was not permitted for
her to look at me in this manner.

457
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:36.880
I therefore took the clothes hanger and
struck her over the head. After

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00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:40.559
I struck her several times, she
fell over and lost consciousness. Father had

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gone to the living room to play
the organ, and I also went there.

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00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:47.159
First I struck Marina on the head
with the hangar, and after she

461
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:52.840
lost consciousness, I struck Petra.
Father continued to play the organ and praise

462
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.639
Jesus, but when I began to
remove the offending parts, he came to

463
00:37:55.719 --> 00:38:00.719
help me the offending parts. The
men were arrested and were found unfit for

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00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:06.480
trial by reason of insanity. They
were sentenced to a psychiatric facility, and

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00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:09.760
although Sabine wanted so badly to go
and live there with them, she was

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00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:13.679
sent to go and live in a
convent and she has not been heard from

467
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:19.039
since the worst part. In nineteen
ninety, twenty years after they were both

468
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:24.400
sentenced, both Frank and Harold managed
to escape, and neither have been found

469
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:29.679
to this day. Harold would be
in his early nineties now, while Frank

470
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:32.360
would be about sixty seven. Okay, so there's a high chance that Harold

471
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:36.719
is dead. Yeah, and I
say Frank is still kicking about somewhere.

472
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:42.559
But yeah, that's just that's it. I wonder, like, does Sabine

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like since she was moved to the
convent and stuff. Did they kind of

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00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:51.119
like did she see sense then when
she was with the nuns, you know,

475
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:57.920
Like there is also a theory online
that when Frank and Harold escaped that

476
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:04.360
Sabine went and was like living with
them because she hasn't we don't know where

477
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:07.000
she is at all, Like,
yeah, she went to the convent and

478
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:10.199
then was never heard from again.
So like she could literally be anywhere in

479
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:15.239
the world. Could because they couldn't
really have gone back to Germany good day.

480
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:21.119
Well, having it been twenty years
and the fact that the crimes happened

481
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in ten a Reef, there is
like a high possibility that they could go

482
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:30.239
back to Germany because like, you
know, not many people would know them,

483
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:34.320
and they could just go to a
different part of Germany. Very true,

484
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:39.679
kind of like m there is possibilities. Yeah, it's all kinds of

485
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:46.119
fucked up. Not only did they
fall into this kind of sect or cult,

486
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:52.079
they closed themselves off from the outside
world as much as they possibly could.

487
00:39:52.880 --> 00:40:00.519
There was incests and then murder,
and then these incests murderers escape.

488
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:08.400
It's a wild story. Like I'm
genuinely shocked that like they were able to

489
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:15.360
like convince themselves so much of like
what they were doing was right. I

490
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:19.880
don't know. I guess it's it's
easy to happen when you really want to

491
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:23.400
believe in something. You can believe
anything that you that you really want,

492
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:28.760
like we see it happen with cults
and even in normal relationships. You know.

493
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:34.239
I feel like, though, like
deep down you'd know, like what

494
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:37.440
you're doing is wrong. They were
so like, yeah, so, like

495
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.840
we just killed your sisters and your
mother, and Sabine is like sweet,

496
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:45.679
yeah, and she's like cool,
cool, cool. But then also would

497
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:47.639
she not be thinking if she is
so, if she believes in it so

498
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:51.320
much, would she not also think, Okay, well, when's my turn.

499
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:53.239
That's what I mean. I just
struggle to believe that, Like,

500
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:58.480
no matter how brainwash you were,
I'm sure deep down a part of you

501
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:01.079
was like, but I don't want
to but she said, I'm sure you've

502
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:05.880
done what was necessary. I'm sure
she was devastated on the inside, but

503
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:09.840
at the same time she's believing that
Frank Okay is the project. Okay,

504
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:13.400
Well they just yeah, like they
just did what they had to do.

505
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:19.440
Mhmm. Like I don't know,
even you can even look at scientology and

506
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:24.440
think the same. I mean,
scientology is fucking nuts, though nuts,

507
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:30.800
Tom Cruise, your religion is weird. It's true, but yeah, that's

508
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:36.679
it's kind of it. That's wild. We're both tired now, we're both

509
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:38.719
like you, okay, yeah.
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510
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:45.360
that our website is actually up and
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To be honest, we had a

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minor freak out that someone actually bought
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This is something that we do as like

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a hobby, but obviously it's something
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though I know sometimes it mightn't seem
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It's just hard when you have so
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It. It's like another full time
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and then you have this job and
then you have also your like home life,

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it's a lot of balancing and sometimes
sometimes it's very unbalanced. And yeah,

553
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this is the easiest thing to let
slip because yeah, obviously I have

554
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to go to my actual job that
pays me. Got bills I gotta pay.

555
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I gotta pay, so anywhools.
We will see you hopefully next week.

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Yes, we will to lunch of
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