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Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome

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to I on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve River

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He's jakin zawis got our guys sit
in at the booth, said the man.

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He's the man. This is first
go as. This is his first

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shot in the board. So if
anything screws up, it's its fault.

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Yeah, I apologize for smart move, smart move. You're you're a rookie,

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but not a rookie. Hey,
big show today. If everything holds

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up right right right? Well,
you know we we did try to get

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Rob waldrip yesterday. He all of
a sudden after the fact, I couldn't

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make it. So we got we
got him lined up today at three three

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thirty five. Pact show we do
and then we have our picks at the

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end of the show to right,
Yeah, all kinds of stuff like I'm

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sure you buddy, I haven't on
mine yet. I'm gonna do him.

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I'm doing it. The next break. Nope, I have not. I'm

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doing that now. I've been I've
been busy. Steve, I'm a busy

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No, it's me too, We
both are. I'm on deadline with you

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for a couple things. That's right. You still don't have your stuff in.

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You gave it to me yesterday.
Where's the ears on a bull story?

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Oh, that's almost done. That's
as old because because I'm waiting for

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stats. You want stats. You
want to see my text, I've been

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asking for statskay uh, the other
one that went to get him. Anyway,

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that's that's between you and me.
But Jake Fisher at three fifteen,

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Jake's always got some good stuff to
say. It's the day before the first

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game, So we'll see what we
say. You know, now that we're

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here, you know he's been saying
eight wins. He probably still say wins.

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But I just want to say how, you know, how they're how

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they're gonna get take wins. What
he's hoping to see tomorrow. Then,

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as we said at three thirty five, Rob Waldrop, we'll be coming in

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and we'll just kind of talk to
him about his his old day's desert swarm.

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He was sort of the anchor to
that Hall of Fame, and he's

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in the College Football Hall of Fame, and he's here to be a co

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captain and Unray captain for the game
tomorrow. And then we'll get Justin Spears

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uh Air's a daily Star beat writer, and get his analysis of what he

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thinks is gonna happen tomorrow. So
a lot of stuff going on, a

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lot of stuff going on pretty much
the whole show. You gotta give us

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a call when you have an opportunity
to. This is one of those opportunities

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because we're gonna be to to pretty
much fool for the whole time outside of

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this slot, from the beginning of
the breaking new slot right exactly. So

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if you guys want to call,
I got a call, Gotta text your

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you're you're tailgate is pretty much open, right anybody who anybody can swing by

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someone. I mean, you know, if you can't bring the whole family,

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unless you're gonna bring some food with
you because you know it's a pot

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luck, but you know, swing
by. We'll have some beer in the

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ice chest. People are asking me
earlier to you know, if you want

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to swing by, but you know, we it's you know, we don't.

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We're not gonna if you get there
and there's not a ton of food,

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it's because there's not a ton of
people that are tailgate generally, and

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so everybody tries to bring something.
So there'll be some snacks and some some

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chicken. Maybe you know, he
might be able to get a beer out

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of us or something like that.
But yeah, feel free to swing by

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look for us. I've told people
I've got a I've got a light blue

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uh kind of a smaller suv.
We have three of those Arizona red and

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blue Arizona Arizona tents that we put
up. There'll be a TV right there

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while we'll be watching games, and
we're gonna hopefully be lined up in that

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last row next to the Richard Jefferson
gym. That's what we shoot for every

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week. Okay, cool, Yeah, I feel free. I feel free

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to stop by and say hey,
And if you want to come and hang

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with us, you don't bring bring
a snack, bring some beer, bring

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something, and you can stay with
us as long as you want. Yeah,

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Okay, last night's games are pretty
interesting. I'm sure you cut one

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or two. I you know,
I I the game. I watched most

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of it because I was watching the
Dodgers Braves game, which was a great

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game. We can get to that
later. But I was watching that Florida

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Utah game and you know that guy. That game came on as we were

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leaving, so I had it on
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you know, Utah it's first play, throws a seventy yard bomb for a

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touchdown, and I thought Florida's season
is over. They're done, They're toes.

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He's not over. You know that. I say that week one,

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everyone kind of you yeah, so
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look and and and you're telling me
Utaugh made them look bad. Two things

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about that one. Utah is playing
with a bunch of backups and they beat

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the crap out of them. So
you know, Florida people are losing their

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minds. You know there. I
saw a lot of I saw a lot

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of social media of that. But
then, you know, you think about

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Utah. It's kind of been overlooked
as as uh, you know, somebody's

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one to think two years in a
row. It's always been overlooked. I

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mean, come on, Utah,
and you don't you don't think you would

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see you don't think Washington and and
their quarterback came rising was out and it

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doesn't really matter. And they played
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both quarterbacks had had scores rushing touchdowns. So watch out for Utah, you

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know, yeah, of course,
I mean you really do. I mean,

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because they didn't you know, it
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three ten for most of the game. I think it was twenty Yeah,

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so twenty four to ten, but
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let them up. I think Florida
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couple of times and got zero points
and stuff like that. So I think,

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uh, watch out for Utah.
I think they're gonna be uh somebody

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to be reckoned with. It's still
you know, they knew that, Yeah,

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of course, it's still. It's
gonna be their fourth, right there,

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pick fourth usc USC Oregon washed in
them, right and anybody any of

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those four could win It gets each
other anytime. Yeah, And I think

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that's what's gonna make make it tough
to get a team through and into the

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playoff because those four teams they mostly
play each other, and you know they

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I don't see anybody facing those three
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Yeah, okay, right, yeah, we'll talk more about that. And

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then there was the other one.
Nebraska's still Nebraska or that was that was

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college football at its peak right there. Yeah, walk off, walk off

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field goal to win the game Minnesota. You gotta imagine that Nebraska fans are

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losing their stuff again. I'm saying, this is the same old stuff that

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we've been dealt with the Scott Frost
right, And then you know, Southern

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Utah had a possession to win the
game. I didn't stay up. I

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gave up at ten thirty. Yeah. Still, I was still watching the

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best quarterbacks in the Pac twelve history
or whatever it was running backs, and

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I said, I'm not gonna stay
for this. Yeah, yeah, I

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didn't. I didn't didn't. I
mean it was still in a in a

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you know, in a delay when
I when I stopped trying and I just

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went to bed. But yeah,
touched damp Damn Demorro Tamorro, Doug Tamorro.

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He said at one thirty in the
morning, that's when the press conferences

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was going on. One thirty in
the morning. Oh man, there could

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have been anybody left in the stadium, though I don't think they made deadline.

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Yeah, well I'm guessing. I'm
guessing not, but uh, you

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know, twenty four twenty one,
and I guess I didn't go back and

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check it out, but I my
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I said, did Utah Southern Utah
have a chance to win? He said,

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yeah, they had a possession to
win the game, right, and

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they didn't, but they had it
chance. Actually they would have converted a

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first down to keep the drive going, but they dropped the pass. Oh

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man, Yeah, that's a that's
a tough thing again, warning signs right,

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yeah, and I don't think I
don't know how much it says.

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But when you have a tough time
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at home against Southern Utah, that's
that's gotta be a red flag. What

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are you talking about? We saw
a red flag. It was a flaming

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red flag two years ago. Oh, because they lost. But these guys

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they didn't lose, so they at
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But you got they got to be
thinking about it for sure. For

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sure. And then the Dodger game. I did say, I did watch

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the Dodging game. It was a
great game Dodgers felt. You know,

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I was telling telling Sid here that
you know, Ron Lucunha came up bases

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loaded second inning, and I thought
he's gonna hit a grand Slam, and

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then he did and it was away
far grand slam. Uh. They were

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up seven to one at one point. Dodgers fought back, got got it

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to eight seven. Uh, had
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of the ninth and couldn't get it, couldn't get the time run or the

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winning run across, and lost eight
to seven. But it was a great

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game. A lot of people talking
about what a great game it was and

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and hoping that that's what the that's
what the National Championship Series will be.

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We'll see, we'll see. That's
fun okay, okay. Uh so what

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else going on a good show today? Yeah? No, I think well,

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the ACC, Oh yeah, I
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a little early because of you know, so we can move everybody up and

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get rob waldropon. But uh uh, the ACC invited cal Stanford and SMU

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into their league, and and it's
funny because you know, they had to

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do something, but then they then
it gets done. Cal Stanford get in

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the league and SMU and people rip
on them doing that and saying that's terrible,

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it's terrible for the ACC. You
know, they got three bad teams.

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Why would three bad programs? Why
would you do that? You're you

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know, somebody said they that,
uh for football, that the ACC added

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three three Boston colleges, which that
they didn't mean that in a nice way.

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So but you know, here you
go, you got you know,

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two more teams on the West coast
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That's gonna that's gonna be a tough
gold, be a tough go.

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Yeah. But I don't know,
you know, I the whole thing's a

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mess, Steve. I think I
think everybody's in agreement. But all of

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college football, all of college athletics
is a mess because of what happened.

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And I don't know how they ever, ever ever fix it. Well,

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they're not gonna fix it. They're
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massive. It's just gonna be massive, right, twenty teams here, twenty

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teams there to make sixty four eighty
four whatever teams are gonna put in their

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separate divisions. But it's just gonna
suck for a while. Yeah, well

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change, you don't change. I
mean in the end, you know,

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Arizona being in the in the Big
twelve, while it's gonna be fun for

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basketball, it's it's not gonna be
as it's fun for football as it's been

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being in the Pactwell, no,
that's why I'm saying, there's no one

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sexy enough in the in the in
the league to worry about it. You

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know, as much as I complain
about USC, you know, being in

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the way of everything, not having
a USC and in the league, it

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is kind of like, well,
hell right, there's and there's not even

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one clothes No, there's nobody close. And then then you think about USC,

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what are they gonna be at a
nine and three team every year?

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You know, well, good they're
not going to be USC in Ohio State

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in Michigan, are they good?
Good for them, But you picked your

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poison, You picked your poison.
You decided to go. You know,

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hope the money is fun. I
hope the money is fine. Oh yeah,

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they'll they'll buy stuff. You're throwing
dice on the sidewalk in the corner.

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Get Reggie Miller's the husband Trophy back? What I say, Reggie Miller,

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Yeah, well he'll too. He
didn't even play at USC too.

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Well he needs one us. You
still, Reggie, Reggie, you know

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that, Reggie. They're gonna have
fun on the snow for sure, I

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think, yeah, yeah, but
what's this? But you know, smut,

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ThEC makes sense. At least they're
in the neighborhood, right, so

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to speak. You know, they're
kind of in the neighborhood. But man

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Stanford and Cal. I guess I
saw that they're doing something where they'll like

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meet in the middle for you know, some of the Olympic sports, you

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know, matches and stuff, you
know, play them in Dallas where neither

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team is all stuff like that.
I mean, how fun can that be

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for that athletes don't want that.
Well, it's very clear. I don't

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know if it's very clear, but
the minor sports were, or at least

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whatever international sports, whatever Olympic sports, we're not thought off. They just

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say there's a lot of money over
there, let's go get it and take

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care of the guy and then we'll
figure it out after that. There's the

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bag. There's the bag, as
you kids say, Yeah, I haven't

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seen the bag since McDonald's give me. But that's what it looks like.

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You know. So well again now
Oregon Stain Washington statement. Yeah, they

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have to just bok up with the
Mountain West, you know, and they're

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good. Orgon State's really good right
now, and wash and State it is

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pretty good to their credit. Old
Jay, it's not gonna be that bad.

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And let me hold hold on here. They're gonna be the crown jewels

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of the wherever they right, because
they're gonna be the better team, right

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at least you'd think that, right, right, because when they play them

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now, if they played them now, wouldn't you think Morgan State would be

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the favorite, Washington State would be
the favorite. It'll continue to be that

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way until it's not right. But
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I mean you're not with yeah the
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We have birthday boy Jack Fisher.
Hey, guys, doing good? How

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are you? How was your birthday? That was fine? We stayed in.

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It's my my football jersey year.
So you know we're getting up there.

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Well you are thirty three years o
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hurt, did you? We don't
want you injured. I'm getting hurt every

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day now. Getting old. You
have no idea what old is. I'm

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just gonna say that you have no
idea. I'm not looking forwards. Well,

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big games are this week. We've
been We've been waiting for it for

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a while. Now tell me your
excitement. Where? Yeah, where?

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Where? Where's your head on it
today? Batman level? Is that a

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ten? I really want to run
up to score against these guys, showing

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them that they're only gonna beat us
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I love the fact that we've got
a bunch of NFL players on there.

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We have very few players that understand
what it's like to lose against NAU.

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So I'm just happy that I want
Jets Fish to be kind of petty,

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like I want us to kind of
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but in our twos and keep taking
shots. I know he's a lot more

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classy than that, but that's what
I would do anyways. And I want

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to see what the defense is like
all these big times, you know,

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transfers. He had come into adjustin
Folk and just on those defensive linemen gets

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the pressure on the cornerback, they're
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quick stuff just because we I think
we are going to be able to get

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pressure on the ball and allow our
defensive backs to kind of settle in makes

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some plays on the ball. So
the fact that justin mister Flow is not

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starting, does that give you cause
or pause or whatever. Now, I

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think it's a new defense and it's
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as you can find a niche for
him, he's going to be effective because

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you know, as Jett Fitch,
he's the most explosive player on that defense.

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You know, he runs, he
knows that a tackle he's got a

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nose for the ball. He might
just not have the coverages down. But

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you know, I mean, shoot, you only got to see a few

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months to really prepare for a defense. We don't know how complex it is.

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new system, so we didn't get
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look like, you know, when
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So I don't know, we'll see. I think that it would be very

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wise to use them in past rushing
packages and maybe even if you have a

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mobile quarterback to use them, you
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he's gonna run down any quarterback if
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of one of the things that you
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at what Arizona is doing, who
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or what do you got your site
set on in terms of watching the

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game. Well, I think that
we're just gonna be able to overmatch them

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physically from all standpoint, So I
think they're going to keep it kind of

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Manilla. You know. I want
to make sure that you know, they

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don't show or tip their cap too
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So I think we're gonna stay in
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a basic defense for the most part, especially on you know, offense.

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I don't think we're gonna have to
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don't think we just have better players
than them. So I don't think we're

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going to see the whole playbook someone
on per se, but I think we

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are, you know, going to
see some powers. So let me ask

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you a question that I asked Lamont
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Gonzalez. Uh, did you and
well I want all to sour the question,

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did you get nervous every game?
Or did you kind of get nervous?

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And then that was it? Did
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I mean you're nervous, you know, right before the game, and

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you kind of want to get out
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as soon as you do that,
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kind of, you know, one
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being nervous, you hate having the
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get to hit somebody, all of
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It's just time to you know,
remember your assignments. You gonna play.

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Is that every game or just the
first game? No, that was every

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game. It's you know, one
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of folks that I knew that didn't
get nervous, and you know, it's

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one of those things where some of
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know a lot of folks that would
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up before games, which is not
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the tacticians or the guys that you
know, they were very technical, technically

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sound. I this is the best
way to put it. They remembered everything

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they had to do, and it's
almost like they put a little bit more

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of a burden on themselves to remember
what they had to do. A lot

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of the guys that were, you
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three years would get a little notice, but they wouldn't show it just because

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they knew exactly what they're doing.
They don't worry about it too much at

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all. You know, they know
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So it was a little bit blore
for me. I was kind of in

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the middle where were you on the
depth chart your freshman year, you know,

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going into the first game in terms
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anything like that. How much were
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I was starting on kickoff and kick
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return when we weren't in punt safe. And then I was in the I

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was in the two deep. I
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Xavier Kellery or Xavier Kelly. Remember
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I mean, we had a really
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you know, I was just happy
to be in the two deep. If

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they can move Corey all around,
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Sterlow around. They can move all
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don't mean that's crazy about knowing the
playbook, you know what I mean.

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So, I mean it was one
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going to see the field unless we
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six against you know, Washington State. But other than that, it was

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funding on special times. Well,
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were on the field then you know
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was that like? My very first
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aunt up that I ran down made
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crowd at all. And it was
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it was like, listen, you
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If you get blasted, who gives
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to hit somebody. Yeah. Cool. So it was a big deal.

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Yesterday? Was it? Yesterday?
Yesterday? I talked about the two deep,

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right, do you guys make a
lot of it about it. That's

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a dumb question because every athlete wants
to be starting. But how big was

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the depth chart to you? You
know, really happened to surprise because you're

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out there practice every day and you
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and yeah, who's getting the grass
of the concept. So I mean

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to be honest with you, it
didn't really it wasn't really a problem.

408
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The only time it was a problem
is when you know you have two guys

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that are kind of equally deserving of
it, and uh, you know the

410
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coaches say, eventually kind of come
to their senses, not come to their

411
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senses. But you know, in
order to get two of those guys on

412
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the field at the same time,
they kind of mix and match different schemes

413
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in order to get their best players
on the field at the same time.

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So, so is it u is
the last week of of prep? Is

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it? Is it fun? Is
it nerve racking? You know, you

416
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got to know all the stuff?
You know, I was looking at the

417
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schedule. You're seenior year you guys
opened with NAU, so you know that

418
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week, well, you know what
was that like in terms of making sure

419
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you were ready and and how much
school did you? Really? Do you

420
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have to you have to do your
schooling, But I mean you just instead

421
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of having all those all that time
that you're spending doing extra working out,

422
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et cetera, et cetera. Now
because you're kind of shifting focused and you're

423
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trying to keep your body healthy and
you're trying to get ready for your first

424
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opponent, you kind of shift some
of that time that you were spending doing

425
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that. So watching film and sometimes
it depends, you know, if you

426
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have a team that has a brand
new coach and a brand new philosophy,

427
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you have to kind of go back
to where their coaches were, you know,

428
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the year before, but even then
they might have you know, they

429
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might have different players. They might
come from the school that you know,

430
00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:30.960
they were a defensive backs coach at
a really high school, but then you

431
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know, they get a defensive coordinator
position at a smaller school, so you

432
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have different personnel. They might have
a heavier personnel, they might have a

433
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lot of athletes. It really just
depends. I mean, that's what the

434
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coaches get paid for, right,
they would all us kind of what they

435
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.640
look at, what the tendencies work, and then you just study it and

436
00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:48.240
if they come out doing something completely
different, you better know how to counter

437
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:51.359
it, right, yeah, right, yeah, no, I hear you.

438
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:56.640
So look again, you know,
we asked Lamont what he wanted to

439
00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:59.759
see tomorrow. He said he wanted
to see Arizona run the hell out of

440
00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:02.640
the said, just let those guys
run the ball, run them over,

441
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:06.519
just push them around. What do
you what do you want to see as

442
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:07.880
far as what the offense does,
I know you want to see him score

443
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.359
a lot of points. But in
terms of what it looks like, well,

444
00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:15.319
I'm on the same page. You
know, we have three, maybe

445
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.119
four guys that are going to eventually
be in the NFL. You know,

446
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:22.079
any of you doesn't have that,
So use your guys to your advantage.

447
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.160
You know, I think we outweigh
them on average about fifty plus pounds,

448
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:29.119
you know, from the offensive line
to the defensive line perspectives. So run

449
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:30.359
them over, you know, make
them, make them stack the box,

450
00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:33.920
and then you got NFL re seer
should throw it to. I mean,

451
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:37.559
we kind of hold uh, you
know what's going to happen in the game.

452
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:40.279
It's it's on us, you know, whether we run the ball at

453
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:42.240
pass the ball, I think we're
going to be successful. But it's always

454
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:47.039
good against an inferior opponent to kind
of establish a ground game because then you

455
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:48.119
can kind of toil with them from
there. I mean, you control the

456
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:51.920
pace as long as your offensive line
is doing what they need to do,

457
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and you control the clock, and
you know, that kind of dictates what

458
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:57.039
you do the rest of the game. The one thing though, that Jake,

459
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and we've probably talked to you about
this a lot, is that depends

460
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how good the defenses is going to
be, depending on how well Arizona does

461
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:10.000
overall. Well, yeah, and
again, you know, remember those Stanford

462
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:12.079
teams when they weren't back dead with
horrorball. They had a really good offensive

463
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:15.799
line that can kind of cant all
the clock, you know, instead of

464
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.759
having a third of Maine since that, you know, you're gonna have a

465
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:21.240
thirdain and two or a third and
three if it's manageable and you get that

466
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:25.160
first down and the defense doesn't,
you know, isn't what it's all cracked

467
00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:26.920
up to be. If we control
the clock and keep them off the field,

468
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then that's you know, I think
a good offense dictating the clock is

469
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:34.240
the best defense. As long as
we can do that, I think we'll

470
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:37.799
be Okay. We got about a
minute less if less than that. But

471
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.000
if the offense isn't what a dictating
offense, it's a scoring offense, right,

472
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:45.400
how does that change it? Well, it depends. I mean,

473
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.799
if the defense is just gas and
they're not doing what it needs to be

474
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:51.119
done, then you've got to control
the clocks to keep them off the field,

475
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right, so you have the hawses
up front to do it. So

476
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:56.920
you know, I mean jet Fish
comes from the NFL. If he knows

477
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:59.079
that, and you'll probably see it, you know, against a couple of

478
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:00.880
bigger opponents, but against any of
you. It'll be nice to establish a

479
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:03.400
run and you know, pop a
few long passes, but I want to

480
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:07.279
see a manham of those guys up
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Thank you guys. We will just

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552
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American, two time All American Rob
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553
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I'm good. Are you guys doing
We're doing fine. Excited to talk

554
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to you. It's a big weekend
for you guys, and you it is

555
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it is, you know what.
And I appreciate you, guys, Steve

556
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and Jay taking some time to get
me on there on your show. So

557
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this will be fun. Yeah,
should be. We'll let love having you

558
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rob. So you're in town,
Well you're not in town this moment,

559
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but you're gonna be back here.
You're going going to be back here tomorrows

560
00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:38.320
as a honorary captain. How's that? How cool is that for you?

561
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:40.800
You know you, I mean,
you've been gone a lot, a long

562
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:44.719
time, longer than when anybody wants
to admit, but you know, still

563
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.719
wanting to bring you back to be
a part of all this. Well,

564
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:51.760
first, don't remind me how long
it's been, because of that kind of

565
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:55.480
dates me. But yeah, it's
it's quite an honor to have them still

566
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:58.800
think of me that way. You
want to bring me back to be a

567
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.119
part of this and experience it,
especially in this new era with Coach Fish.

568
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:05.400
So it's uh, and I'm a
lot better kind of enjoying these things

569
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:07.599
and appreciating them as I got I've
gotten older. When I was a lot

570
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:10.199
younger and playing, you know,
I never really spent too much time on

571
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:15.800
the accolade. So it's it's it's
nice to enjoy this and be here with

572
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.599
some of my close friends. In
fact, I don't know if you remember

573
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:21.800
us too, but we covered you
guys back in the day, and you

574
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.000
were kind of a quiet guy,
as I remember, a tough dude,

575
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:27.519
a tough dude, but just kind
of quiet, kind of didn't say a

576
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:30.320
whole heck of a lot pretty much. Yeah, I just kind of trying

577
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:35.280
to play and let that speak for
who and what I was. And you

578
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:37.280
know, I was on a defense
with a bunch of great guys, So

579
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:39.559
it's it's it's uh, I didn't
want to take anything from anybody. Yeah.

580
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:44.480
So so that's a that's a team
that continues to be well. Those

581
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:47.440
teams in that era continue to be
talked about here. You know, people

582
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:52.679
you know, look back fondly on
the all the stuff, the Desert swarm

583
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:54.559
that continues to be sort of legendary
here what's it like been for you?

584
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:58.519
What's it been like for you to
kind of be a part of that group

585
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.199
that kind of set you know,
kind of set a standard here. I

586
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:08.360
guess you could say for a lot
of the program. Well for me personally

587
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:13.639
being it on those defenses with those
guys that I played with on those teams,

588
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:15.800
the bond that we all have and
what we did, it's been one

589
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:19.559
of the most amazing experiences of my
life. And you just tend to appreciate

590
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.400
that more and more as you get
older, because you just don't get something

591
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:27.480
special like that very often with a
group of guys. And so you know,

592
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:30.840
to see all everybody still committed to
Arizona and looking at the program and

593
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.719
wanting to see you know, none
of us would winding more than the cr

594
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.800
defense come and beat all of our
records and do exactly what it is that

595
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:39.599
we did. We would It would
just be the greatest thing ever. And

596
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:44.119
I think for the guys it would
plan a defense like that, the bonds

597
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.320
you build with the guys you're playing
with, it's something that they would always

598
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:50.920
remember forever too. Before you say, what made you guys so special on

599
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:53.039
the field, we were talking about
this yesterday, Jay, I can't remember

600
00:36:53.239 --> 00:37:01.320
you thought some games Bruski wardrobe to
finish those guys, and you talk about

601
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:06.639
dudes who just were tough dudes.
I don't even know what are the word

602
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:10.360
you could use besides tough. Would
you agree? I would agree we when

603
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:15.599
we played with a level of intensity
and aggression and a lot of violence,

604
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:19.960
and it was a simple, simple
defensive scheme. And so that's really what

605
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:24.480
kind of all you had to do. And you know, were we all

606
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:28.639
the highest recruited players or the blue
chips and on that, We really weren't.

607
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:30.000
So I think all of us always
had a chip on our shoulder anyways,

608
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:35.039
was something to try to prove,
and that's kind of I don't if

609
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:37.280
there was a way to say this
is what we did to make this defense,

610
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.199
I think everybody would be doing it. I don't know what the formula

611
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:43.199
is, but it just it was
what it was and it was great.

612
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:45.519
And how did it happen? I
mean we, you know, as fans,

613
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.639
we sit here and you know,
we think about, you know that

614
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:52.320
game at Miami. Would would people
say that's where it was kind of born?

615
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:57.440
But you guys had to have had
an attitude before that How did desert

616
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.639
swarm become desert Swarm in terms of
what you guys were doing on the field,

617
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:05.599
Well, we did. We did
have an attitude. I would agree

618
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:08.960
that that game in Miami that year
we had two frustrating kind of games that

619
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:13.360
we started with that we kind of
sputtered a little, but that was where

620
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:16.639
we really jelled. And I think
everybody walked away from that Miami game knowing

621
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:21.679
that we had something special and we
had more belief and confidence in ourselves.

622
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:23.800
After that point, we'd be able
to do it. I think in terms

623
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:29.000
of how, what what kind of
drove us together, I'm sure every player

624
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:30.840
would maybe have different opinions. What
I remember the most a lot is that

625
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:37.559
in the practices coming up in that
through spring and in that season, sometimes

626
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:39.360
we would scrimmage the offense and the
coach told me we would have something.

627
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:43.239
If you guys win, the defense
wins, you don't have to run win

628
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:45.039
sprints. If the offense wins,
they don't have to run win sprints.

629
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:50.079
Well, we would beat the offense
and he would keep changing the rules.

630
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.360
He would call a penalty and he'd
let him come back. He couldn't get

631
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.679
him to win. He said,
you got to run anyways, So we

632
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:00.320
got tortured and suffered, do it
all. And then when a few times

633
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:04.159
the offense might win one, even
after he gave a bunch of free palties,

634
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:09.039
guess who didn't run the offense.
So so you guys were just mad

635
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:14.840
mad, Yeah so so, but
you know, it taught us something about

636
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:19.239
adversity that it was like, uh
andy, whether that was intended on his

637
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.599
part or not, I don't know. But but when you're in tough games

638
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.760
that are tough scores close like we
had so many that year, and it's

639
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:29.320
like fourth and inchest and you know
you got to stop them, or it's

640
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:30.480
you know, hey, if we
get them in field goal range, they

641
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:35.719
could win this game because we're only
up by two points. Haven't been through

642
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:37.760
all that and understanding what you can
do. Just you just took it with

643
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:40.519
a It was like water off a
duck's back. It was just the next

644
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:44.039
play, didn't matter what it was. So Rob in the interview, and

645
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:46.119
a lot of basketball players because they
went to basketball and and a lot of

646
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:51.039
them played for them, played for
Loot. But they said to him,

647
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.480
man, you don't want to disappoint
Loot, So you you busted your butt.

648
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:57.239
You worked very hard and you didn't
want to disappoint. It's kind of

649
00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.360
playing for your grandfather. You don't
want to disappoint your grandfather. Was that

650
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:04.880
the same case for Dick Toomy,
Yeah, tell me it was a great

651
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.239
He was like a great father figure
and a mentor, and he definitely was

652
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:12.760
somebody that was hard, but he
was fair and you knew he cared about

653
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:15.239
you and you didn't want to let
him down. And the worst feeling in

654
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:17.679
the world is if you know,
depending on how you did in a particular

655
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:21.639
game, he didn't have to say
anything. You could just see in his

656
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:25.239
face dispointed. We've seen that face
a few times. Yeah, yeah,

657
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:30.559
everybody has. I think anybody's watched
Arizona football back on those days on TV.

658
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:32.639
You see that face, you know
what he says, yeah, without

659
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:37.079
saying it's funny. Something I've always
wondered because you know that that that game

660
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:40.199
in the fiest ball against Miami,
it was like, you know, as

661
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:44.639
an Arizona fan, you were just
you know, we all lost our minds

662
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:49.000
with with what happened that day.
But going into that game, what you

663
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:52.320
know, what was the sense around
around the team, Because I mean I

664
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:54.199
went to that game thinking, and
I'm with with all due respect, I

665
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:57.880
understand you guys are really good,
right that this is Miami. You know

666
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:02.800
that this is big boy football.
What was your mindset? And and when

667
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:06.199
did you guys know you were just
going to kick the crap out of them?

668
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:10.480
The minute that they got selected to
play us in the festival, I'll

669
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:14.480
tell you that there was a calmness
among the defense that we're going to go

670
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:17.519
out and stomp these guys, and
nobody ever doubted that for one second.

671
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:21.519
And I think if you look at
a lot of interviews with the players that

672
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:23.719
week, somebody just recently asked me
this. We told them all week,

673
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:28.280
this is what's going to happen like
and that's what we did. I don't

674
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:30.559
know if Miami believed it when they
listen to things people were saying, but

675
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:35.719
yeah, nobody had any doubt in
our mind that's what was going to happen.

676
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:38.639
So had you before you got here, Before you got here, would

677
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:42.880
you have ever imagined I know this
is a silly question, but the things

678
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:46.960
that would have happened to you the
way they turned out, No, I

679
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:52.280
couldn't imagine that. And one of
the things that was really great is when

680
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:57.440
one of the reasons I chose Arizona
was other programs are like promising me certain

681
00:41:57.480 --> 00:41:59.760
things. Oh, come here,
you know, we'll start. Dick told

682
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:00.840
me that ever said that. He
said, come here, and you work

683
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:04.960
hard and you'll get a fair opportunity
to play. But you've got to earn

684
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:08.719
everything you get. And that's appealed
to me a lot more than some of

685
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:12.639
the other programs that that seems to
kind of a little shifty that they would

686
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:15.199
We'll give you whatever number you want
to come here. You know you'll start

687
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:20.400
your first year. And so I
came in with that mindset and I'm just

688
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:22.519
gonna work hard and everything I can. I was always told that I was

689
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:25.199
shorter, so I always had that
chip on my shoulder to kind of prove

690
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:30.679
that that wasn't an impaedment to my
ability. But sure, so let me

691
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:32.159
ask you, Rob, because you've
mentioned it. You get all these dudes

692
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:38.079
they weren't highly recruited very good though, how come this stuff doesn't work for

693
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:44.079
normal teams? Because you got I'm
assuming it's special. You had something special.

694
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:46.440
But a lot of the guys in
Arizona have not been highly recruited.

695
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:50.519
They're coming here because they're the second
choice and the third choice, but they

696
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:55.159
haven't found that magic. Yeah,
well it depends on the coach. One

697
00:42:55.199 --> 00:43:00.960
of the famous coach tell Me's famous
sings sayings was it's not really about the

698
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:05.000
exes and os, It's about the
people and how do you get the most

699
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:07.840
out of the people and some of
that talent evaluation, being able to see

700
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:13.440
somebody for what they are capable of
as a player besides what they what they

701
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:15.760
look like on paper, and then
being able to get the best out of

702
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:21.119
that player. Wow. Yeah,
I mean there's so much of that that

703
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.559
we hear about about Dick and the
way he ran his program and you know

704
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:25.840
the guys that he got here,
and you know, to see guys like

705
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:30.239
you, Guys like Bruski in the
Hall of Fame, you know some of

706
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:31.760
the other guys you know, Brandon
Sanders, Tony Bowie, just guys that

707
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:36.880
were just killers out there. I
mean, I mean, just going to

708
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.559
practice every day, just had to
be I don't know, just a really

709
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:44.039
cool thing or or what I mean. What was that like for you guys?

710
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:51.960
Well, it was awesome because everybody
was playing for each other, right

711
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:55.039
and we always knew that we were
the underdogs, and you knew that the

712
00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:58.639
guys that you were around were given
their best efforts. That's why it was

713
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:00.480
the swarm. Everybody was swarming to
the ball, and there was just an

714
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:05.880
energy that carried through all the practices
that kept you working hard, you know

715
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:07.920
I mean, and I'll tell you
that, like I you know, Coach

716
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:12.639
Fish has got a lot of the
same stuff going on here. So I've

717
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:15.400
seen kind of a difference from the
time and you watch them with someone to

718
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:21.159
where the way they energy the team
plays right now and they believe in him

719
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:24.280
and a lot of the alumni,
we all believe in him, and they

720
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:29.480
fight now more and the mistakes that
they make are full speed mistakes and those

721
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.480
things get corrected over time. So
I'm excited about where the program's headed.

722
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:37.960
Now, let's talk about that for
a second. So you've seen what they're

723
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:42.679
doing the last couple of years as
you welcomed everybody back, but now you

724
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.760
know they're going on and playing the
games. What do you think of this

725
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:50.400
team right now? What they're doing. Well, we're gonna find out Saturday.

726
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:52.840
And one of the things I'm most
excited about is having an opportunity to

727
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:54.960
kind of see it up front.
Now, going into coach Fish's third year,

728
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:00.039
I've seen a lot of the other
stuff d through, like the media

729
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:04.119
stuff, and then my friends Heath
and the other guys that are here all

730
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.199
the time keep me in the loop
of what's going on. And one of

731
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:09.760
the guys one of my former roommates, Brian, and his sons on the

732
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:13.039
team. So I see a lot
of stuff. So we're gonna find out

733
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:15.800
Saturday. What what do you what'll
you be specifically watching for? Do you

734
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:20.079
when you watch a game? Do
you watch the defense and see what the

735
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:22.559
guys who played your position do?
Or how do you how do you watch

736
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:27.679
a game as somebody who played it? For me, what I watch is

737
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:31.440
how much effort and how violent are
they? And how do they pick themselves

738
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:35.960
up after a bad play or play
they get beat on? Do they quit?

739
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:38.800
You know? If as long as
you don't have any quit, all

740
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:43.880
these other things will fall in place. Are you you've mentioned the word violent

741
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:46.519
twice? Are you still look a
police officer? Weren't you? Now?

742
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:53.360
I'm retired. Do and that violent
stuff? They tell me? That's a

743
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:59.119
different world, and I have a
pretty calm demeanor. But football, to

744
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:00.760
me was a very nipple game.
It was like, I gotta beat this

745
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:05.039
guy in front of me. I
was gonna say a cuss word, but

746
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:09.079
I won't. That does it all
the time, don't do it? Yeah,

747
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:13.320
and until he quit. Yeah,
And that's how I looked at it.

748
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:15.039
Right. So, so you were
one of the baddest dudes up front,

749
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:19.119
and you had a lot of dudes
behind you. Who was the guy

750
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:22.159
that you didn't want to go up
against or he knew that he was gonna

751
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:28.239
get his butt kicked going against you. I don't understand who did I not

752
00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:31.360
want to play against in practice in
games? Who was like the dude that

753
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:37.800
you had to face. There wasn't
anybody that I faced. I stopped that

754
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:39.559
way. I mean, if you're
talking about my junior and senior years,

755
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:46.000
my freshman and sophomore years, there
was a few guys know well yeah,

756
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:49.159
because I mean you had a couple
of you You had a couple of really

757
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:53.559
tough games against the Washington as I
recall, Yes, yep, that was

758
00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:57.960
a Cunningham and Washington those first two
games when we lost by like one hundred

759
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:00.320
and ten points over two games.
I was hoble. I'm still traumatized.

760
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:06.119
From the siren to play time or
stadium, right right, right, Who

761
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:10.719
are you up to now? I'm
retired, living out in Virginia, doing

762
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:15.800
some consulting on the side for some
different things, and just trying to enjoy

763
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:19.920
life and stay in shape and beat
father time. Yeah, good luck with

764
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:22.920
Steve and I are having a tough
time with that. That's the guy that

765
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.360
we're looking across the line and saying
I don't want to face that guy.

766
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:30.480
We're under dugs and from that one
us. Okay, yeah, he is

767
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:35.440
undefeated by the way the time.
You can't get past him. So trying

768
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:37.840
to flow it down. Enjoy your
weekend here, Yeah, with your buddies

769
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:40.760
and all that. Thanks for joining
us, have fun, rock, Thank

770
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:44.840
you, thanks for joining us.
We appreciate it. Appreciate keep up the

771
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.480
good work. Yeah, thank you. Appreciate you. Rob and the dudes

772
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:52.039
you know he built, he will
he will still beat your ass. Well

773
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:55.320
he's a cop. Of course,
he's strong, dude, because I've seen

774
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:59.679
him a couple of times since he's
been back there and he looks wow,

775
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:02.599
yeah, well you get well one. You mostly have to be in shape,

776
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:06.000
yep. I know there's a lot
of cops who aren't. But you

777
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:07.199
know, when you're a guy who
played football and stuff like that, you're

778
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:10.639
gonna you're gonna stay in shape because
you know, you didn't get you didn't

779
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:15.079
play football because you sat around doing
You're gonna read something. You're gonna read

780
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:16.480
something. Okay, just it was
a great time. We covered the right

781
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:22.039
before that, right that era,
and just the Dana Wells and the Glenn

782
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:25.280
Parkers and the John Feenas and the
these guys. It's just a good group

783
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:28.440
too, good group of guys.
Are all a bunch of a bunch of

784
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:31.679
great guys. And again you knew
that Dick Tomy recruited character, right right,

785
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:35.199
No, it was Look, you
really did look at that whole time,

786
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:37.440
loot with the same thing. If
you hire, if you get bad

787
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:44.039
guys, you get bad guys.
Dick Tomy, uh baseball joy kill same

788
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:47.599
type of situation, yea, all
those guys? Yeah, yeah, okay,

789
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:51.119
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806
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807
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:05.719
we're probably gonna suck. It's been
tough. Now, Steve had a

808
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.679
great year two years ago seasons,
not last season. We know he had

809
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:12.760
a bad season because I beat him, and uh no, it was three

810
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:15.800
years ago, because we are you
beat me, we tied, then you

811
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:19.760
beat me the previous year. That's
what really. So it's been three three

812
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:22.599
years man, man oh man.
Anyways, all right, so yeah,

813
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:25.800
so we'll stick around for those picks. We have fun with him, and

814
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:30.400
uh sid's gonna tell us whether or
not he thinks our picks suck. Oh,

815
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:34.920
I'll give a harsh criticism here as
needed, as needed. But again,

816
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:37.079
getting excited, Steve, getting excited, you know, getting I kind

817
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:42.280
of finished this ud Utah by the
way, last you did not you don't

818
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:44.559
get that. You don't get that. You don't get to play that.

819
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:46.599
You had to play that and you
but okay, I'll give you Utah if

820
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:51.320
you take Nebraska too. Oh no, wait, Nebraska cover. They just

821
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:57.719
they just didn't win. Man.
I Nebraska fan just can't be having fun

822
00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:00.679
for the longest time now, no, ye, no, come on.

823
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:05.480
And then we talk about blue bloods
in basketball. They were a blue blood.

824
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:07.559
I'm not sure they're blue blood anymore. I don't know, because but

825
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:14.440
this is your definition of best.
Except while Arizona in basketball they've not been

826
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:16.920
really bad. You know, they've
not gotten the final fours and stuff.

827
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:20.719
They haven't been really bad. They've
still been a really good program. If

828
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:22.039
you look, there've been a bunch
of stats showing that they're like in the

829
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:28.320
last ten years, they're like the
second or Nebraska has been really bad,

830
00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:30.320
I mean awful bad. So you
tell me you lose that crowd once you

831
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:34.920
become bad. You can't finish under
five hundred a bunch of times and keep

832
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.320
it. I don't know, but
seek to me. From historical standpoint,

833
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:42.119
I still consider them. They're still
Nebraska. Don't see anybody his age or

834
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:47.239
doesn't know or or forty our age. We remember those. Nebraska has never

835
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:52.159
been good, and my son Adams
exactly right, exactly. It's a different

836
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:55.639
tune or at least not good the
way we knew that. Yeah, you

837
00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:59.480
know, we were good, they
were good. Yeah. So anyways,

838
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:02.239
right, we gotta check out.
We're gonna we're gonna be back sizzle.

839
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:07.800
I've been lining up breaking news all
day, so we'll have some breaking news,

840
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:09.480
and we're gonna have Justin Spears from
the airs of Day to start coming

841
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:13.360
on. We'll let him talk to
us about what he thinks we might see

842
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:15.440
tomorrow at the game. So stick
around.

