WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:07.839 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.839 --> 00:00:14.560 fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions kat z 3 00:00:14.919 --> 00:00:22.120 R two SAG and iHeartRadio Station The Good Afternoon, everybody. Welcome to you. 4 00:00:22.160 --> 00:00:25.000 I on the Ball Hero Fox Sports forteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's 5 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:30.559 Jay. You got Kevin in the booth today, Man in the Ship and 6 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:34.439 we're sitting here looking at our computer screen going early on arely on? Is 7 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:37.520 this you hear me that? Can you hear me that we're on? Okay? 8 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:40.119 Good? This is great, great, great day. Welcome to Thursday 9 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:43.880 show. I think a pretty good show. Yeah, you know, yeah, 10 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:47.799 you know. We we always enjoy getting Mark Harlan, the Utah leg 11 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:51.679 director, comes on our show before the Arizona game, and he's doing that 12 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:54.880 again today. We've got some questions for him about, you know, how 13 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:58.719 his things are going over there. I got some questions Aboutkyle Whittingham that I 14 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:00.560 want to have and I want to ask him. But we did talk to 15 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:03.760 Jetfish today and his press conference, and I you know, we asked him 16 00:01:03.760 --> 00:01:07.680 a question about you know, where he thinks he is in terms of you 17 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:11.959 know, trying to catch up with Utah because we talked about that last year. 18 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:14.480 We'll get to more of that in a minute, and then Corey Williams 19 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:19.760 will join us ESPN college basketball analysts also form Arizona player back on that nineteen 20 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:23.920 ninety fourteen that went to the Final four. Yeah, so it gets good 21 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:27.879 he's been doing. He'll be doing his ESPN and basketball analysis here in about 22 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:30.760 two weeks or so, as you get back he do you know this is 23 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.680 in studio? Yeah stuff. Yeah, So so both Corey and Mark Harland 24 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:38.159 at three about three twenty, Corey Williams about four twenty, So be sure 25 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:41.959 to stick around for both those. They should be some good conversations. We'll 26 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:46.040 get Corey Williams thoughts on Arizona basketball so far. Yeah, yeah, I 27 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:48.519 seen. I think he should have been to a couple of games already. 28 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:49.879 So okay, cool, what else is going on? You were in the 29 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:55.560 press commerce today. I was with at the Jetfish press conference, you know, 30 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:57.959 getting ready for the for the Utah game. We uh, you know, 31 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:01.000 I kind of jumped out. I've been thinking about this question since yesterday 32 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:05.280 because I think I brought it up a little bit yesterday. But last year 33 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:08.159 about this time when Arizona played Utah, it was also in November. You 34 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:13.960 know, Jed made the comment or there was a discussion about the fact that, 35 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:20.120 you know, Utah is a program that Arizona aspires to be. There 36 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:22.919 were some fans who took exception to that, saying we should be better than 37 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:28.439 Utah. But right now, Utah is the gold standard in the league, 38 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:34.360 especially when you consider even USC and well USC Washington Organ. Utah's defending packed 39 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:37.240 had twelve chann two time defending pack twelve champion. Yeah, this is not 40 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:40.199 an exclusive to Arizona question. This is a question to everybody. Yeah, 41 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:43.960 in the league. Yeah, so I asked Jed Okay said, Jed, 42 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:47.400 here you are. You talked about that last year. Here you are. 43 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:51.960 You got the same same season record. Right now, you're ahead of your 44 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:55.159 ahead of Utah and the conference standings, You're ahead of them in the in 45 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:59.719 the College Football playoff, Frankins in your favorite to beat them tomorrow. Where 46 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:05.280 do you think you sit in terms of this discussion about wanting to be Utah. 47 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:10.599 I think we're still a lot of years behind them in regards to the 48 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:17.439 consistency of their program. They've been able to keep their defensive coordinator for eight 49 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:23.000 seasons in a row. They've been able to keep their offensive coordinator for six 50 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:28.319 seasons in a row. Coach Whittingham is going into his nineteenth season. The 51 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:35.919 formula for winning consistently has never changed in Salt Lake. From Urban Meyer to 52 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:40.280 Kyle Winningham, they've been able to consistently go out there every week and have 53 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:46.240 a brand that everybody nationally recognizes. At this point in time, we're at 54 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:51.599 the very infant stages of that. We're very new in that world. We're 55 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:57.360 trying to establish that brand. We're trying to establish a culture that can continue 56 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:01.039 on throughout. They've sell out one of their games. They had one of 57 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:06.039 the longest, if not the longest home winning streak in college football. So 58 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:11.759 that, to me is what we aspire to do. We're proud of the 59 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:15.840 fact that we're matching up head to head against the team that we have the 60 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:19.800 utmost of respect for. But in the end, it's can you consistently do 61 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:24.240 what they've done over the course of time. Yeah, No, I think 62 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:28.079 he's spot on. Yeah, It's funny how we always mentioned they got to 63 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:30.759 sell the place out. Yeah, which, of course if everyone of fans 64 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:36.079 bitch about the money that's not there or whatever talking about it, they could 65 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:39.480 play a part. Yeah, they can go to the game. They could, 66 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:43.199 they could. He did mention that they are about forty three forty eight, 67 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:46.959 also seven hundred or something. He said, they're about thirteen hundred short 68 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:49.839 of a selling I remember, it's not technically a sealot. They're giving a 69 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:54.240 bunch of tickets away, you know, a tall season ticket holders get a 70 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:57.240 pair. I got a pair of tickets, so you know, my daughter 71 00:04:57.240 --> 00:04:59.319 can go to the game and stuff like that. But you know, I 72 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:01.480 don't care how fifty thousand people get in the stadium. Get fifty thousand people 73 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:04.839 in the stadium, and that's that's more or less. You know where they're 74 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:08.079 at. So you know, it could be a fun game on Saturday. 75 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:11.360 He said they're going about fifteen hundred a day, so he thinks that it'll 76 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:14.639 be but it'll be declared to sell out by some time tomorrow. Yeah, 77 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:17.079 which is great, Which is great as long as there are buttz in the 78 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:19.560 seats. Yeah, you know, it should be a great atmosphere. I'm 79 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:23.800 looking I'm looking forward to this and we'll talk to Mark Carland about that from 80 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:29.040 Utah a little more so, you know, one of the reasons that Arizona 81 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:31.439 is where it is. Obviously, he's talked about the twenty twenty two class, 82 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:36.759 but there's some senior holdovers from who really stuck it out. And in 83 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:44.279 particular, the discussion was about Michael Wiley and Jordan Morgan, who won they 84 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:46.800 could have transferred or two they could have left after last year, their fifth 85 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:51.240 year seniors, who's stuck around and he really he talked about how important they've 86 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:58.959 been to the program by the fact that they stuck around. Yeah, both 87 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:02.680 of those guys, you know, they were here before we arrived. They 88 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:08.360 stayed committed and then they stay committed to our program. After a year of 89 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:11.959 one and eleven, they didn't go try to transfer. After a year of 90 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:16.120 five and seven, they didn't declare for the NFL draft. They both decided 91 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:20.800 to return for their fifth years and wanting to really make an impact in the 92 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:25.560 program and change the culture. And they did that. They are who our 93 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:29.399 team look up to, the way they act, the way they handle themselves. 94 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:32.879 They're grad their degrees that they have the fact that they're not just here 95 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:36.439 as an athlete, but as a student athlete, that they've managed to have 96 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:42.600 over three point zero GPAs, that they've managed to lead the team as a 97 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:46.560 captain, that they do things right in the training room, off the field, 98 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:49.920 on the field. Those guys have meant the world to this program, 99 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:53.839 and I hope that they get rewarded for it. I'm sure that they will 100 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:57.279 when it comes to the NFL Draft this year. But what you're also going 101 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:00.759 to see is you're going to see guys like that be able to be spokespeople 102 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.439 for Arizona football in the years to come. Yeah, you know, I 103 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:08.600 mean we talked about the twenty thwey two class. You know Frafeita, Manu 104 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:15.240 McMillan, you know Savonne, all those guys. But when you really think 105 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:18.360 about it, you know, those two guys sticking around, helped get other 106 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:25.000 guys and helped other guys stick around. And I'm thinking, can underestimate really 107 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:29.879 how important those two guys really end up being? No question, no question, 108 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:32.240 And then circumstances of the events that happened a minute, but there's no 109 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:38.240 question Fafina has helped this team tremendously, especially a guy like Jordan Morgan, 110 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:43.759 right, who you know, first round draft pick quality guy offensive line, 111 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:47.120 you know, keeping a guy like that around and showing other guys that you 112 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:50.519 can come here be a first round draft pick. That has to have a 113 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:54.720 lot to do with you know, who's decided to come. Why why Polito 114 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:58.319 came, and why Savonne can all those guys that said, okay, I 115 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:01.079 can go to Arizona. I don't have to go to USC to be that 116 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:05.439 guy, right, right, it's just understanding that that's the case. You 117 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:09.319 know, well, how was it back in nineteen eighty three, But in 118 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:11.040 nineteen eighty three eighty four when you got here, right, you knew of 119 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:15.079 his reputation, Those who paid attention knew of his reputation, right, good 120 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:18.040 coach, We didn't know what his est could be established. But you have 121 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:22.759 to start with one or two. He got Sean, he got shot. 122 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:24.399 Well, he got Craig McMillan. We go to that, well, right, 123 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:28.000 you got Craig crillen. I believe the first mc donald's. McDonald's all 124 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.920 American, right, And then he got Sean, and Steve was already here, 125 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:35.279 but he wasn't Steve Kurr right, So you need just guilt. You 126 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.840 guys get to build right, right, and and and you gotta win, 127 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:43.000 and you got and look and it. You know, Arizona basketball wasn't good 128 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:46.240 at that time and Luke made it, made it good and got you know, 129 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:50.919 and built that up. But historically Arizona Arizona football is harder to get, 130 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:54.200 yeah, you know, top level recruits because of the well, I 131 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:56.799 think that, I think that Rich Frod is the one that said it best. 132 00:08:56.240 --> 00:09:00.000 It's it's a tough place to get to. It's not a destination, 133 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:03.080 but once you get here, you think it's pretty good. Bad why did 134 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:07.200 you decide to come here? The weather in the campus and the sports isn't 135 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:13.879 that one bingo exactly exactly? And and a little ceiling for admissions, but 136 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:26.360 let's go past that even more so. Okay, interesting couple of questions from 137 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:33.159 Brian Peterson regarding n I L just how the NIL thing is working and what 138 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:37.360 it's been like to operate under that. Uh uh, you know, where 139 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:39.120 where donations are going and all that kind of stuff. Here's what Jed had 140 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:43.799 to say. Yeah, I mean, I think it's clear that that is 141 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:48.360 where college football, college athletics, whatever you want to say, has gone 142 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:54.679 in a lot of different ways. Football specifically, Uh, it's expensive to 143 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:58.440 run a football program. Uh, it's certainly expensive when it comes down to 144 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:05.840 you know, your player retention, player acquisition, how you're going to support 145 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:11.559 your players through name, image and likeness. And collectives are very involved in 146 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:16.200 that. Multimedia brands are involved in that. And if you want to have 147 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:22.159 a winning culture and a winning team, the supporters of University of Arizona have 148 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:26.600 to step up in that regard. It is the only way right now to 149 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:31.039 get it to where it has to go. We've seen other programs put in 150 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:37.679 millions upon millions of dollars into their player payroll. However, you want to 151 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:41.200 look at it, and you could say some of them have benefited greatly. 152 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:46.759 Some of them would say there's been some challenges with that. I think in 153 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:50.039 the end you have to find a nice balance and you have to be able 154 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:56.240 to recognize and reward players for what they have done. Certain players obviously are 155 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:01.320 going to bring more to the table than others financially the same token donors are 156 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:05.879 really the way most of these collectives are funded right now, and that those 157 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:13.200 donors could come from private entities, meaning their companies, their businesses, how 158 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:18.039 can they help a kid succeed or their personal investments into the collectives, but 159 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:24.399 all of it is necessary to be able to sustain winning and win more in 160 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:28.120 the future. And then a follow up question was, Okay, where do 161 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:33.480 you think Arizona sits in the hierarchy of the Pact twelve? From an NIL 162 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:37.960 standpoint, Yeah, I think the I mean I wouldn't know the answer to 163 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:43.639 that, because it's the most clandestine operations of all time. Nobody has any 164 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:50.320 idea what anybody's saying doing, and a lot of times what you hear and 165 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:56.240 what we read turns out to be false. A lot of times you hear 166 00:11:56.279 --> 00:12:01.480 about this kid got offered that, or this kid got or this player was 167 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:07.559 compensated in this regard, and then you find out from somebody else, or 168 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:11.480 somebody transfers into your program and tells you what was going on in the other 169 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:15.279 program, and it's nothing like what you thought you knew or read or saw. 170 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:18.879 So I believe that's why the NCAA right now is trying to find ways 171 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:26.279 to make people at least kind of tell people what they got right, you 172 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:31.360 know, give their contracts to one central location, make sure it's more open 173 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:33.639 to the public, make sure people have a better understanding, because right now 174 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:39.480 you're you don't know if you're negotiating against yourself or you're negotiating against another team, 175 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:43.200 because there's no open forum and there's no way to really know. That 176 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:46.720 makes sense. And let's let's use Texas A and M as an example, 177 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:54.519 right A wealthy, wealthy money coming in their mil deals are reportedly very good, 178 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:56.440 right, how they do it? That's a good. That's so it 179 00:12:56.440 --> 00:13:00.480 doesn't really that doesn't drawing money at a situation that doesn't really can wait? 180 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:03.039 Well, yeah, or you remember that that little tedt of tet between between 181 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:07.399 Jimbo Fisher and Alabama and Nick Saban, you know, accusing each other of 182 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:11.759 you know, buying players and paying millions that la YadA, YadA, YadA. 183 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:13.320 Well again, as you said, how's it been going for Texas A 184 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:16.919 and M? Right, you know, not so good? Still got to 185 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:20.039 coaching kids. Yeah, I mean you're you're hearing that Caleb Williams is getting 186 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:22.679 millions of dollars, but you're also hearing that, well, he's getting millions 187 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.759 of dollars, but he's not gonna play in his Bowl game, right you 188 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:28.799 know? And let me is there is there something that says, okay, 189 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:31.080 you awe with some money if you don't play well, let me say this, 190 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.320 what about what about the kids possibly being resentful that he's doing this, 191 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:37.120 yees this and they're not getting in, they're not getting any of it. 192 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:41.759 Exactly. That was my initial that's your Yeah, that was my initial thought. 193 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:45.000 You started talking about that day one. How's the center going to block 194 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:48.159 for this guy who's making millions? And I got ten thousand dollars in the 195 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:50.919 bucket? You know? You know what I'm saying exactly. All right, 196 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:54.399 We're gonna we'll chat somewhere about some of that stuff after the break. I 197 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:56.480 mean, after the next segment, we're gonna bring in Mark Carland, athletic 198 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:01.080 director in Utah, and old uh he was an Arizona guy for a long 199 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:03.879 time, so he's got some connections. Seri is a good friend of ours, 200 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:11.519 so we'll be back with Mark Harlan. 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Mark Harlan 281 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:04.000 the A d Utah via Arizona. Yes, we're gonna we have to make 282 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:07.839 sure that if we claim credit for where you where you are, Mark, 283 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:12.559 because you know it all started here. You know the plaque of both you 284 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:19.160 guys here in the giving giving you credit for reminding me stay out of the 285 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:25.519 media and going to administration. So smart man, Sure, I don't know 286 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:29.559 you guys are the ads these days have a tough life. This is n 287 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:33.279 I L budgets blah blah blah. Yeah you know, I mean you could 288 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:36.839 be at Arizona where they just figured out that they don't have two hundred and 289 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:41.720 forty million dollars that they thought they had. So hey, man, I've 290 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:47.440 been busy traveling and all that stuff. But I know doctor Robbins will figure 291 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:51.079 all that out. I have a lot of belief in that guy. He's 292 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:55.160 awesome. So so Mark, I always ask these people who are doing really 293 00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:57.079 well, what's in the water in Salt Lake. You guys are killing it, 294 00:20:57.160 --> 00:21:00.920 crushing it you have been for a while. That's nice. Yeah, 295 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:04.039 no, it's you know, I think just like like I felt when I 296 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:07.720 worked at the University of Arizona. You know, it's all about great people, 297 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:11.319 and we've got a great staff and that that really that just tries to 298 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:17.119 outwork to everybody and be really innovative. And but most importantly it's these coaches 299 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:21.920 and student athletes. A lot of continuation of really good coaches. Everyone likes 300 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:25.680 living here and being here, and and they go out and recruit to their 301 00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:27.240 kind of style. You know. Obviously football gets the headlines, but it's 302 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:30.279 kind of like that in many of our sports, and so a lot of 303 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:33.960 good people that have been here for a long time that that work really hard. 304 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:37.519 Well, you know, we we actually asked Jed Fish about that because 305 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:40.759 last year at this time he said, you know, Utah is a football 306 00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:42.559 program. We want to you know, we aspire to be that. And 307 00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:45.240 I said, okay, so this year, you know, you're getting closer, 308 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:48.240 but how far away? Do you still think you are? And so 309 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:51.000 we're still years away. And he had a lot of great things to say 310 00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:55.680 about about the programming, particularly about about Kyle Whittingham. So let me ask 311 00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:59.519 you about Kyle Whittingham, you know, the dean of the coaches. He's 312 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:03.039 been there long time. What's been the thing that you think has been sort 313 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:07.920 of a key to his success and why you know he continues to be there 314 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:10.599 and do the things that he's doing, you know, two rose bowls in 315 00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:14.119 a row, all that stuff. Well, first of all, you know, 316 00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:15.640 I do want to mention Jed's comments last year. It was it was 317 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:18.960 really noted and he was really gracious with his comments. This week, Kyle 318 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:23.960 and I both caught those chat with Kyle as we do every week about everything 319 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:29.519 going on, and we both noted that and really impressed with what Jed Jed 320 00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:33.880 has done and that whole group down there. When I saw Jed's media day 321 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:36.640 in Vegas, you know, we were chatting a little bit. I could 322 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:40.279 tell he was really excited about what might be coming. Of course, DUYNEA. 323 00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:41.759 A. Keen is one of my one of my greatest and dearest friends, 324 00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:45.279 and you know, it's just there's just a lot of really good people 325 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:48.799 on that staff, and so I'm to say I'm surprised would be a lie. 326 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:53.400 I'm not surprised. So so congratulations on everything he's done. You know, 327 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:59.000 Kyle is Kyle. Whitting him is just you know, he's got a 328 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:03.319 way of doing things. It's culture, and it's recruiting to that culture. 329 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:06.960 I mean, everybody wants five stars and four stars, we get all the 330 00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:10.240 star stuff, but he's got his staff. It's got an unbelievable way of 331 00:23:10.319 --> 00:23:14.799 just recruiting the right kind of people in here that believe in toughness. I 332 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:19.440 mean, it's a real physical program that you know, practices with our earspinned 333 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:23.680 back every day. And it's a family approach, which I grew up with 334 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:27.559 Dick Tomy. You know, it's a very close knit group and it's been 335 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:30.559 a joy to work with him. You know, it's it's it reminds me 336 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:33.359 a lot of the days with Coach Tomy. You know, he love folks, 337 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:37.160 and you take care of people and they work really hard for you. 338 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:38.519 And I think that's what we've seen. And to see the kind of success 339 00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:42.599 the programs had, particularly these last few years, it's just been really gratifying 340 00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:45.039 for all the work they do. He's terrific. You answered my own question 341 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:48.119 because I was going to go there with Dick Tomy because you were a ga 342 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:52.799 under him back in the day. But you know, the thing I think 343 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:56.519 about Williamham. He comes in driving in his motorcycle for game day, and 344 00:23:56.559 --> 00:23:59.480 I'm thinking, that's a dude I don't want to play for. He's just 345 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:02.960 a hard, tough dude. And that's exactly what you guys are. You 346 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:06.519 guys are hard ass tough dudes. Yeah. Yeah, he's tough. I 347 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:10.200 mean, he really is. I mean people forget he's sixty four and uh 348 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:12.920 and he is. He doesn't behave like a guy sixty four. I mean, 349 00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:17.240 you know this motorcycle thing. He and I get into some tips over 350 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:21.000 the motorcycle. You know, I said, I get these tasks when you're 351 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:22.759 not wearing that helmet cruising around town. You know, people text me. 352 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:27.440 But he's he's great. He and his wife Jamie, the family. You 353 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:32.759 know, their institutions here and and you know the coaches love working for him. 354 00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:33.920 He's got it, like I said, a great staff. You know, 355 00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:38.319 Morgan Scully are longtime defensive coordinator Andy Ludwig you know, been with Witt 356 00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:41.960 for for a long time on the offensive side of the ball. The three 357 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:45.799 of them just have a great synergy. But it starts with Kyle's leadership and 358 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.200 and the kind of students you want in here. And we've I think the 359 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:52.799 transfer portal, although it's always going to hurt you at times, it's been 360 00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:56.039 really that positive for us. We've had some great transfers come in and really 361 00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:59.559 contribute, so we know we got our hands full of this Saturday, I 362 00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:03.960 can assure that. Well, so you know, talking about about winning him 363 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:07.200 though, you know, I mean you must be able to put your head 364 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:08.400 on the pillow at nine and you know with a little smile on your face 365 00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:11.160 that you got a coach like that. But on the flip side of that, 366 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:15.160 you know, do you do you fret? Do you worry at all 367 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:18.960 that you know somebody's going to come along with an offer he can't refuse and 368 00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:22.160 you know, we know how things are, right, how much do you 369 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:26.799 worry about that? If at all? Well, I think you know, 370 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:30.279 when you've been doing this as long as I have in leadership roles ad almost 371 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.240 a decade now, you you understand that anything is possible. You know, 372 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:37.240 if we've learned anything in the last year. In particular, anything's possible when 373 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:38.680 you don't think it. I think you just always have to have your plans 374 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:44.200 and you know, your different routes mapped out for what might happen. But 375 00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:48.640 Kyle and I are we have a great communication rhythm about about all those types 376 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:52.200 of things. And I think you know, obviously he's proven on many times 377 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:56.480 that he wants to be here. A staff wants to be here as long 378 00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:59.519 as he knows, like any of of my coaches, you know, are 379 00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:02.440 we invest thing, are we making good decisions together? Or we at a 380 00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:07.839 high level of communication at least gives you a great opportunity to fight through those 381 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:11.799 things. But you know, control the controllables. I don't worry about it 382 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:14.480 because I think we've got a lot of good pending no matter what happens. 383 00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:18.519 So we know that you were here many years ago. Who was your I 384 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:22.559 don't think we've asked this question at least, I haven't your mentor down here 385 00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:26.720 in becoming who you become. M Well, it's hard because you're picking up 386 00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:30.440 you know, remember I worked there and there it was a you know, 387 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:34.720 kind of a mount rushmore of athletic administrators to talk about John Parrin and Rocky 388 00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:41.319 Lorose and Dick BArch and you know, said Dempsey was there my you know 389 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:44.920 when I was coming through, and then Jim Live and Good. I mean, 390 00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:47.000 you can go on and on. I mean, I'm not going to 391 00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:51.519 say Chris del Kanye in case because I don't want to give him any credit. 392 00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:55.279 I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that at all. So I 393 00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:59.400 won't say Chris, although I love Chris my mentor, and I could go 394 00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:02.839 on and on. There was just such it was such a time to be 395 00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:06.720 working there in the late eighties early nineties, and and you know, through 396 00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:11.880 that decade of just people that that that really worked together, the program really 397 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:14.720 grew. You know, it didn't mean we'd have great challenges, but we 398 00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:18.000 all worked together, saw what teamwork really look like. And incredible coaches, 399 00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:22.279 I mean, oh my gosh, Lout and Rick coach t and just on 400 00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:26.319 and on legendary coaches. So too many to name, but I will tell 401 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:30.279 you it's John Parrin and Rocky. The two of them in particular, I 402 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.839 spent a lot of time with and I think a lot like they do, 403 00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:37.960 which is always keeping a student athlete in mind. Well, well, yeah, 404 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:42.480 John just went in the into the Athletic Hall of Fame, I know, 405 00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:45.799 and I was supposed to be there. Del Connie and I were also 406 00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:49.039 to be there, and we both got these ridiculously early kickoff games and we 407 00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:52.920 had the Sun Devils and he had somebody else, and so we weren't able 408 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:55.079 to get there. And you can imagine JP had to go at us about 409 00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:59.519 that. But I'll see him this weekend. So so well, so, 410 00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.960 you know, talking about that then with all those people who you just mentioned, 411 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:06.200 you know, does your program over there look a little bit like what 412 00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:10.039 it looked like over here? Gosh? I hope so, because that's what 413 00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:14.200 she wanted to look like, right under said in Jim's leadership, where people 414 00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:18.279 have creativity and bringing things forward and without afraid of get you know, not 415 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:23.480 backwards if if something didn't work totally right, and and that culture is something 416 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:27.359 I always have wanted to create where I've gone, and I think we've been 417 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:30.799 able to do a lot of that, you know, put my own style 418 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:34.240 into things too, but being very collaborative and communicative with with your team. 419 00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:37.720 You know, we got two hundred plus people at work at Utah and and 420 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.960 so you can't see everybody every day. But if you can establish that culture 421 00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.680 that I learned there, you get you know, you give yourself a chance. 422 00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.000 So this game's not completely you know, this season is not completely over. 423 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:52.720 But I want you to know Mark uh Jay and I have anointed you 424 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:59.119 pack fwelve champions next year, big, big, big twelve champions next year. 425 00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:03.799 Big. Well, because you know, we haven't talked in a while. 426 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:10.319 Lots happened since we've talked. Yeah, a lots happened, I guess 427 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:11.839 all. I'd say, there's so much to say. Maybe we can, 428 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.319 you know, get on a show and talk about later. But the one 429 00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.279 thing that is given me a great comfort is that you know, we're going 430 00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:22.440 in there with Colorado and two Arizona's. I think there's really I know, 431 00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:26.720 from our fan base, the fact that, uh that those schools are going 432 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.640 with us, it just makes it all that all that better. You know, 433 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.240 we're I think we're all excited about some new cities and and some new 434 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:36.759 teams, and there's a little bit of juilt of energy about all that, 435 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:38.440 but going in with those schools, and I think you might have seen a 436 00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:44.519 little wink wink on that with the way the football schedules came out of this 437 00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:47.519 first four years that we're going to play each other on most years, and 438 00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:49.160 I think that's important not only for the programs, but also for the fan 439 00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:52.960 base. So we'll see what happens and then and then you're back in with 440 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:57.279 those guys in blue over there. H u yu. How fun is that? 441 00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:00.200 Or is like, damn, we we got away from them and now 442 00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.839 we're back. What the hell? Yeah, Well, the funny thing is 443 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:08.880 we we've taken a two year break in football because Tom the ad. They're 444 00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:11.880 a good friend and think they agreed to kind of step aside so we could 445 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.400 have this home and home that we just completed with Florida. We were scheduled 446 00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.839 to go back on another ten year football arrangement anyway, and we already played 447 00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.119 them home and home in every other sport. So really, to me, 448 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:27.079 like this just makes it matter even more, Like we're playing him anyway, 449 00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:33.079 let's let's let's have it. You know, meant something, And you know, 450 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:34.720 our students kind of a lot of our students up with them, and 451 00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:40.519 so you know they're excited about that piece. Well, well, you know, 452 00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:42.960 we did talk about the fact you are on the college Football PLAYFF Committee. 453 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.720 I know you can't talk about any of the stuff going on with it, 454 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:49.519 but can I ask you how much work is it? And are you 455 00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:53.559 having fun with it? Yeah? Well, yeah, it's it's a you 456 00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:56.960 know, I would argue, you know, basketball committee is up there too, 457 00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:00.720 But to be asked to serve on this committee is probably the greatest honors 458 00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:03.599 I've had since I've been in the in the business. And you know, 459 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:07.640 it's an interesting it's a one year term to represent the PAC twelve. As 460 00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.599 weish up. I got a Lake call on it because of a replacement. 461 00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:15.440 But yeah, I mean, it's it's a it's a tremendous amount of work, 462 00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:18.759 but it's it's a labor of love. You know. My wife jokes, 463 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.359 she said, what are you doing on that's a Sunday morning? You 464 00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:25.960 know what are you doing? I'm watching game films because you're watching college football. 465 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:26.720 You need to do other stuff. I said, no, this is 466 00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:30.720 this is the real deal now, and she she she laughs, But but 467 00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:33.720 yeah, you know, you gotta there's there's thirteen of us and you've got 468 00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:36.920 to go in there and you've got to be ready to roll. You've got 469 00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:40.559 to know stuff. You gotta see it film. They give me some really 470 00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:45.160 good They load up your iPads with with by eight am Mountain time, they've 471 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.200 got all the key games down to one hour and you can see the all 472 00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.000 twenty two or the television you can go in. We reach assigned the conferences 473 00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:56.160 and you really got to dig out on those conferences and also on the national 474 00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.279 level. I do. I go every Sunday for six weeks. We're in 475 00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:04.680 week three coming up. I go out to Dallas and then I'm there Monday 476 00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:08.039 and Tuesday five back Tuesday night, and we'll do that through the final poll. 477 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:14.519 But it's been a great experience. It's very very sophisticated. But yeah, 478 00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:17.240 it can be mind bending at times for sure. So we have a 479 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:20.319 couple of games that left, like I say, in the regular schedule, 480 00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:24.920 we might see this Saturday, but I'm looking forward to the Pac twelve basketball 481 00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:30.400 tournament in Vegas, the last hurroun for everybody. Yeah, yeah, no, 482 00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:35.640 it turn. It's been great. You know another former Arizona ALM, 483 00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:38.240 you know Dinette Late And at the time, right she she was the big 484 00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:43.599 driving force when she worked for Commissioner Scott to get that tournament moved. And 485 00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:46.240 boy, that was just a huge success. I mean, I think that 486 00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:50.839 and maybe the football move too, which she also did, was just a 487 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:54.119 gigantic success for the league. And you know, just like we filled it 488 00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:57.480 up for football last couple of years, you guys have filled it up for 489 00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.319 basketball every year. And I think I'll say I'm you know, learned a 490 00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:02.640 little bit. I don't know if you guys had talked Dave Ikey about this, 491 00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:07.359 but learned a little bit about the Kansas City piece of this in the 492 00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:13.200 Big twelve that apparently I've not been, but apparently it is off off the 493 00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:19.839 charts. Yeah, yeah, just just incredible all in approach to it. 494 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:22.519 You know, sold out, the moving the women there too, which is 495 00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:24.359 great. The arena, I guess is elite, so you know, I 496 00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:28.559 think there'll be some ol bummer we're leaving Vegas. But from what I'm told, 497 00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:31.200 the tournament, the Big TWL tournament is just unbelievable. We heard that 498 00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:35.839 because you know, immediately, you know, PAC twelve fans immediately starts saying, 499 00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:37.079 oh, you need to move your Big twelve tournament over to Vegas, 500 00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:40.720 and Big twelve fan was saying, you have no idea what it's like in 501 00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:46.079 Kansas City, and Yeah, it's just far so yeah, it's just it's 502 00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:49.839 not the drivable And I've heard it from our fans too. It's only six 503 00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:54.319 hours it like seven from remember, but it's a quick drive. But you 504 00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:58.480 know what it's it's all part of the change we're going through. And uh, 505 00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:00.559 you know it'll be another interesting step in it. But you know the 506 00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:04.480 heck of a basketball conference that we're heading to, that's for sure. Well, 507 00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.119 thank you, Mark. One thing is and you know you this already 508 00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:10.920 that Jay hate you because you've got into the Rose Bowl twice. Hate. 509 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.119 Hate is a strong hate is a strong word. Mark. But you know, 510 00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.639 let me tell Jay, let me tell you something. It's better than 511 00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:22.639 you could even that night. Baby, you know what, I was just 512 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:25.920 gonna invite you to our tailgate on Saturday morning. But that's hot. I 513 00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:30.360 always find you that's off there you go wait, wait, wait, well, 514 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:31.480 what do you guys think about the game? I mean, come on, 515 00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:36.840 look at where's gonna happen on Saturday. Everyone's gonna kick your ass. 516 00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:43.480 What do you think he's gonna say? Well, maybe I'll just stay outside. 517 00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:45.480 You might want to bring your own food. I think it's gonna be 518 00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:47.519 fun, maright, thing's gonna be a great game, I really do. 519 00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:52.119 You know, you know how Arizona fans are, right, we keep thinking 520 00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:55.159 that this thing is gonna, you know, crumble, and it hasn't yet, 521 00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:58.920 And I feel I think it's gonna be a really good game for both. 522 00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:00.119 You know, it's gonna be fun and I'm looking forward to it. 523 00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:05.400 I love the twelve thirty start, I do. Yeah, well, I 524 00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:07.760 echoed that it should be two you know, obviously, two highly ranked teams 525 00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:13.039 and Arizona gus Ever since that USC over time, I watched every play that 526 00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:15.960 and boy just been on a tear kind of you know, if you look 527 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:20.199 from an Arizona historical standpoint. I don't want to overstate it, but doesn't 528 00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.000 it remind you a little bit about that loss in Miami that's at eight to 529 00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:28.119 seven, the McLoughlin wide right, and then that team went on a tear 530 00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.039 after that. Has a little bit of that, a little bit of that 531 00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:34.960 feel as I watched them play. The confidence that Arizona's playing with, which 532 00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.000 is what our coaches have noted, that's why you tip your hat. Yeah, 533 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:40.360 I know, we uh, we'll be ready, though, I can 534 00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:45.119 assure you we'll be ready to come down and give everything we have. But 535 00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:49.199 it should be a great game. Yeah, I said exactly that a few 536 00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:52.440 little a little bit back. The problem with that season though, was they 537 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:53.960 didn't finish right. They lost their last three games. So I'm saying this, 538 00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:58.440 they got to finish this to keep Oh that's right and now, and 539 00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:00.159 you guys are in the way. You guys in the way, So we'll 540 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:05.519 see what happens too. Mark, to his point, he has n't been 541 00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:13.440 right at all his So there's that. Thanks, Well, we'll see what 542 00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:15.280 happens. Well. I appreciate you guys always reaching out and I look forward 543 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:19.440 to seeing you somewhere them all. Yeah, give us a yes, not 544 00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:21.639 buy a look for us. Well, we'll be there. Thanks Mark, 545 00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:25.599 Thanks, I appreciate you. Fday b Bye. Mark Carlin heyda Utah, 546 00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:30.320 longtime friend. Love that guy thirty some years. Still down to earth right, 547 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:34.199 Oh yeah, he's this big high falutin athletic director on the college football 548 00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:37.800 Playoff committee and he still like comes back in Jab. Here's not del Conte, 549 00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:40.920 He's not definitely county. That was funny. All right, we'll be 550 00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:44.519 right back and we'll take your casse five two zero four one, six, 551 00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:53.599 seventy four, forty better check around. 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Yeah, and you know 600 00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:22.159 always I will say he was really he played on that baseball team with a 601 00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:27.480 few times. He was really slow. Really what made him really I don't 602 00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:29.760 know, because he was not a big guy. He was not a small 603 00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:32.880 guy. He was just a dude. His legs didn't move. That's typically 604 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:39.480 why the slow guy is slow. I remember I remember watching him run down 605 00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:45.000 the first baseline. I'm like, you love he's joking. Oh, we 606 00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:47.519 should have had a lot of I should chick on it like that. He's 607 00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:51.760 gone, he's probably he's busy doing whatever. His next thing is that he's 608 00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.519 not even hearing this and we're ripping on or I'm ripping on fun guy. 609 00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:58.960 Love love the guy. But you know the program that Utah has and that's 610 00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:01.440 coming in one six Street and they went S Street. Yes, gus Arizona. 611 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:05.679 That's not by accident, no, no, they passed. They lapped 612 00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:08.920 Arizona because remember when when Arizona Colorado came in in the you know, into 613 00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:12.599 the pack pub, you thought, okay, fine, you know they're you 614 00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:15.599 know, it's gonna be tough for them to be competitive. And guess what, 615 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:17.480 Arizona pens still have that perception, is right, that that that's who 616 00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:21.400 Utah is. Yeah, yeah, Colorado you know, yes, they had 617 00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.599 one one Pack twelve South championship, but their team has sucked. Well guess 618 00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:30.880 what Arizona right, right, you know, and so you know the holier 619 00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.400 than now thing. But and you know, Utah, you know, a 620 00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:37.920 couple of rose bowls and snuck in there and stuff, and it's all lapped 621 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:43.039 Arizona and some other teams and it's all they play like their boss. Yeah. 622 00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:50.360 I mean they're in the conversation with Washington, Oregon and USC right as 623 00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:53.159 you know, as the standard in the PAC twelve. And guess what, 624 00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:57.239 every time I don't know about you, but every time they would play those 625 00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:00.559 teams, you just take there's no chance. Yeah, I guess what, 626 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:01.599 they beat them? Yeah, and they beat him and they and they got 627 00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:05.079 into it. Got you know, won the back to back. Then that 628 00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:07.800 two doesn't happen by it? No, first time, okay, second time, 629 00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:09.320 not so much. Now it's a thing. Yeah, now it's the 630 00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:15.079 thing. And Jed talks about that again. They're packed pack twelve champs coming 631 00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:17.320 in. We have to have to beat them. Yeah, well, let's 632 00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:21.360 let's play that clip because he does. He does mention that in his in 633 00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:27.719 his UH in his introduction about you know who they're facing this week. We've 634 00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:31.119 got a UH champions coming in here. PAC twelve champions two years in a 635 00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:36.719 row. So we know that that is an awesome challenge to bring in the 636 00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:40.519 Pac twelve champions UH into our place and see how well we can play against 637 00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:45.920 them. It's a UH certainly, it's a championship opportunity. It's a championship 638 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.280 game in so many different ways, and we've got to take advantage of this 639 00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:54.400 moment as a program. Sitting here at seven and three, proud of where 640 00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:58.719 we are these last ten games, proud of where we are these last four 641 00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:04.079 games, knowing that we have two more games to play at the opposite highest 642 00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:08.559 level prior to the postseason. We know the importance and significance of the following 643 00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:14.039 week, but all of our focus is on this championship game that we have 644 00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.599 on Saturday. This doesn't pertend to this clip or whatever. But I was 645 00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:21.639 coming in and I don't know why this can't struckt me. But but we 646 00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:23.440 talk about dogs, right, we talk about the UA being dogs, And 647 00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:28.960 I'm thinking this is a perfect example for me to talk about my uniforms analogy. 648 00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:32.599 You put those defenders in just just the uniforms, just the uniform just 649 00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:37.039 rag tag uniforms, they would look even more dog like because they would be 650 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:39.880 just dudes who wanted to beat the crap out of you. Does that make 651 00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:44.400 sense? But not all pretty don't I want pretty. I want dogs and 652 00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:47.880 their dogs. But when they look at they no, they don't want to 653 00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:54.280 get their uniforms even dirtier. See if I agree. I mean, you 654 00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:57.760 know they're they're you know, they're just wanting to go out. It's like 655 00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:00.960 when you think you see those the old NFL films from the sixties and you 656 00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:05.960 know, early seventies when they were all muddy and bloody and and stuff like 657 00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:07.599 that, that those guys just they didn't give a crap what they look like. 658 00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:12.320 They just played yea, and they were and they were mean and vicious, 659 00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:15.599 you know Dick but me and Joe Green, uh, you know, 660 00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:17.960 Mike Curls from the Colts, those guys John Madden. John Madden has a 661 00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:20.960 commercial. I don't know if I see it every now and again. It 662 00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:23.079 says, oh, it may on far and maybe he's on Facebook or Twitter 663 00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:27.199 or whatever. He says, Yeah, they say that we played dirty back. 664 00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:32.000 When what are you gonna do about it? Exactly exactly. So Jed 665 00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:35.880 was talking about, you know, a championship game and all that kind of 666 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:37.719 stuff in that in that clip a minute go. So he was asked, 667 00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:43.000 how much are you how much are you talking about the fact that you're still 668 00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:46.159 in the hunt to get into the PAC twelve Championship game. Here's what he 669 00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:58.360 had to say. Yeah, well, you know that was from the very 670 00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:00.800 beginning. We yeah, been very clear about that. If you want to 671 00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:04.760 play in the PAC Tworld Championship Game, you gotta win on Saturday, then 672 00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.440 you gotta win again on Saturday, and then you need Oregon State to beat 673 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:12.000 Oregon and that's what has to happen. So we don't shy away from it. 674 00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:15.800 That's just the bottom line. And that's why we all work this hard. 675 00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:20.199 And you know, we talked a little bit about the difference between sacrifice 676 00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:23.679 and investment, and everything that we've asked our team to do is invest in 677 00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:28.760 themselves to be able to put ourselves in position to have that conversation. So 678 00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:30.440 once we got into the conversation, I didn't want to shy away from it. 679 00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:37.440 Amazing that it's even the conversation though, Nonny, Yeah, stunny is 680 00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:42.760 that it's a conversation, no question, no question. The storylines of this 681 00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.159 year have been Arizona, even Colorado to a point because no one thought they'd 682 00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:51.000 win some Yeah, what us Oregon being this good? Or Washington? The 683 00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:54.199 quarterbacks? Yeah there's two now because there's only two quarterbacks here, right, 684 00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:59.639 the rest of kind of fallen with so two quarterbacks, Arizona, Colorado? 685 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:04.840 What else from those are the stories those? Well? US has been a 686 00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:08.000 storyline, but in a bad way. But it's bad way. So but 687 00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:10.480 yeah, no, you know, and that that's been the discussion, Pep. 688 00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:15.639 You see on social media that Arizona is like one of these stories of 689 00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:20.360 the PAC twelve. Uh yeah, because it was so unexpected and you know 690 00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:22.639 what, you know, what makes it even more impressive is the national guys 691 00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:25.840 like the herb Streets and the those dudes are talking about it, not just 692 00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:30.119 guys. Yeah, no, you know again, you know, the the 693 00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:34.960 the the the podcast I listened to with Dan Wetzel, Pat forty and and 694 00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:39.400 Ross Ross Dellinger. At the end of I think on their their Tuesday podcast 695 00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:43.360 or somewhere they're no, they're they're Sunday podcasts. They at the end they 696 00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:45.920 say, Okay, now, because we've said all these bad things about people, 697 00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.559 we've got to say something nice about somebody. And Arizona was the topic 698 00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.360 of Ross Dollinger, you know, saying nice thoughts. I'm talking about how 699 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.639 Jetfish has turned it around so fast, and not only are they good, 700 00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:59.880 but you know, they're they're physical, they're you know, they're they're hard 701 00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:02.000 to beat. They do all these things that they're hard on people. And 702 00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:06.960 talking about how this game with Utah is gonna be you know, you know, 703 00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:10.719 Utah's Utah. Yet you think Arizona can win that game? Do you 704 00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:15.840 think that they snuck up on teams and that's part of it. I think 705 00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:17.719 they snuck up on a couple. I think it snuck up on Washington. 706 00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:22.079 I think they stuck up on USC after that. I don't think they snuck 707 00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:24.840 up on anybody, you know, especially after what they did to Washington State. 708 00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:28.920 I thought, you know, Oregon, there was no reason for Oregon 709 00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:34.320 State to think Arizona wasn't you know, and it wasn't good enough to beat 710 00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:36.719 them, you know. And you see, like you know, I watched 711 00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:39.719 a little bit like the second half of the UCLA A SU game from Saturday, 712 00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:44.199 you know, on that sixty minute thing. They're awful. They were 713 00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:46.880 awful. Yeah, it's looked like it looked like there's something going It looked 714 00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:51.840 like there was the last place they wanted. There's something they're playing like in 715 00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:55.199 fact that they look there's something going on because they before the week started. 716 00:47:55.719 --> 00:48:00.119 Uh, he talked about his them not being together. How we have a 717 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:08.039 caller. Hey, you guys, I'm doing pretty good. Hey, let's 718 00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:13.440 talk about the elephant in the room. So I listened to you guys last 719 00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:19.639 night, and you guys talk about how there's still rumors about you say, 720 00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:29.920 potting ways with Chip Kelly, and so I kind of think that Jetfish still 721 00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:36.760 wants to be at Arizona because Arizona's going to the Big twelve there's easier way 722 00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:44.760 for Arizona to to compete and win championships in the Big twelve. And and 723 00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:50.719 there's not a Texas, Oklahoma or either Oregon, Washington or USC in the 724 00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:53.519 Big ten, I mean in the in the Big twelve. So there's an 725 00:48:53.519 --> 00:49:01.239 easy way to win to win in the Big Twelve compared to if Jetfish goes 726 00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:07.800 to UCLA or even Florida. In the Big Ten, there's Oregon, Washington, 727 00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:13.960 USC, Ohio State, and Michigan, and then in Florida there's obviously 728 00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:19.880 Georgia, Alabama, LSU, and Tennessee and you and it goes on and 729 00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:23.639 on, and I just kind of still think that Jetfish would be there's still 730 00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:34.000 want to be at Arizona compared to going to to those two schools where their 731 00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:38.159 fans are very want to win and a very high level, and compared to 732 00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:45.320 Arizona, we if we we love to win nine or ten games or even 733 00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:51.000 eleven games. But so that's why I kind of think and I kind of 734 00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:57.719 expect Jonathan Smith to be hired, but I hope Dave Peking a President Robbins 735 00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:01.559 have a working behind the scenes to give me Jetfish a huge, a huge 736 00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:09.840 contract extension and and and we and also pay raising paying the race for the 737 00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:17.280 for Jetfish's coaching stuff. We need to keep keep them compare high Water. 738 00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:22.880 Yeah, I agree with you, Gabe. And I think I don't see 739 00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:25.920 him. I think it's too early for him one from the standpoint of a 740 00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:30.679 school looking at him like at U C l A or whatever. But yeah, 741 00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:31.159 I could, I could see you see, like, you know, 742 00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:37.000 coming, you know, coming at him. And I don't know Jetfish other 743 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:39.280 than the fifteen or half hour that we get with him once once, you 744 00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:45.079 know, once a week. But I would think he'd want to do a 745 00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.440 little more here before he went off somewhere else. That's just my Yeah, 746 00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:52.880 that's what That's why I kind of saying, I'm totally fine if he's go 747 00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:59.400 to the NFL. By least Arizona needs to be finally relevant football. Why 748 00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:04.480 not airs Ona? Just like what Rich was Rich say, why not Arizona? 749 00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:07.159 Why can't Arizona just be good in football? Why can't Arizona just be 750 00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:13.400 like Utah? Is this right now is the perfect time for Arizona to be 751 00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:20.400 relevant in football finally? And just I'm just we us Arizona fans, we 752 00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:24.559 dealt through the Kevin Bumlin era and that was a sugar and Honey, I 753 00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:36.239 see show and just it's finally it's I'm happy that Jetfish finally cares about Arizona, 754 00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:40.039 not like a Kosha doesn't really much care. And and I just kind 755 00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:46.039 of irritated, why can't why can't Why can't Arizona just have something really nice? 756 00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:50.119 Yeah one, Okay, well good, we gotta go. We got 757 00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:53.159 good, good stuff, Gaye. But obviously you know we'll be watching, 758 00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:57.159 so we'll see what happens. Hey, thanks about have a great day. 759 00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:00.079 Yeah, so we have forty four seconds one that kind of expended. But 760 00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:04.960 there's always gonna be coaching openings. There are every year, you know, 761 00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:07.400 I mean, how how often does somebody come after call Waittingham? Right? 762 00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:10.719 You know, uh, probably all the time. Yeah. So and if 763 00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:14.280 you're good, that's gonna happen. You just deal with it. Sure, 764 00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:16.719 we'll get more, get more behind you on the resume, exactly exactly, 765 00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:21.559 you know, I mean, I'm not I wouldn't be shocked if you if 766 00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:24.199 you see l a fire Chip Kelli and they came after Jed. But you 767 00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:29.760 know, you just see what happens that you hope for the best. Good 768 00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:31.440 luck with that. Yeah, exactly all right, we're gonna take our break, 769 00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:37.760 we'll be back. Kevin will be here with breaking news.