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Yet. Hey, good afternoon, everybody.

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Welcome to I on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm

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Steve Rivera, He's jagin Zaalace and
with us today we have Kevin the recent

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graduate. Kevin, how are you, everybody. I'm good, I'm tired.

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I'm good, tired from what long
weekend? Good weekend, but long

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weekend? Oh good to be twenty
three exactly, invincible somewhat. Yes,

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Wait till you get arrange and you
just pop those mids. I hope you

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get to this age. Hey.
Hey, a lot of things going on.

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Uh, you know, I want
to revisit we have a pretty good

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show today. Uh, and I'm
gonna We're gonna ask Mike Candrea who's at

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the four to seventeen hour. I
think he's still in the ad kind of

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office, right. I think that's
check. Yeah, Yeah, I think

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it's yeah. Because I've seen a
lot of stuff today on the internet about

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the season that Arizona has had Arizona
athletics. We've talked about it often,

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about our eight point whatever. But
you saw my text I sent. No,

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you didn't see what I spent.
I sent eight point five. Yeah,

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and I think I think that could
be a fair Yeah, it's climbing

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for sure. I was going to
ask you what you thought, Why did

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you send that? Or right after
the right after the baseball game? Okay,

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Oh, but you hadn't waited for
the softball No, so this is

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before softball. So you're just gonna
stay at eight point five eight. It's

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my like eight point six now,
okay, because that can get a nice

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little bump if they get in the
College World Series. Yeah. So,

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I mean that's pretty good. Everyone
wants to know, over everyone. A

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lot of people who are posting want
to know, is this the best year

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in a while or ever or whatever. I still go back and I don't.

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I'm not a historian like that,
but ninety eight was pretty darn good.

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Ninety eight was done good. And
we'll talk about that with Crendrea because

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he's gonna say, you know,
we're a bunch of fools for rating it

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so low, because he's inside the
house. Yeah, but it has been

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a pretty good year overall. Well, but remember we're also throwing in the

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financial troubles that the that the department
is having the agent you know that you

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know, if you fired an a
d uh, you know there's a new

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one and it's that kind of balances
out. But you know, there's some

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off field issues that I think are
affecting the grade that we're giving. At

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least I am. Yeah, and
I even I don't know if I included

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that in my thing. I was
just more about sports, but they definitely

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it's an overall thing. So so
why not, right? Uh so I

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fight a five after the weekend and
everyone's still alive. Yeah, no,

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and uh you know, I mean
Arizona surprisingly goes in and wins. When's

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that regional in SEC country they've been
they played really well, they've been successful

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against SEC schools over the years.
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I still I still don't believe that
they've got And we can talk to Mike

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about this. The pitching staff that
they need to you know, to win

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a title, but the way they're
piecing it together, taking a one game

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at a time, they're giving themselves
a chance, right, you know,

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I mean they beat Arkansas two to
one at their place, and they use

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three pictures in that game, and
they're beastically using three pictures every game,

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and so each picture only has to
come in and throw a couple of nice

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innings, you know, and keep
them in a good spot. And they

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win that game two to one.
And then Arkansas went and got bludgeoned by

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Villanova. Then Arizona bludge in Villanova, and now they're in the Super Regional.

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So you know, most you know, champions have an ace, you

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know, a Jenny Finch and Alicia
Hallowell, a Terreon mo At somebody like

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that. Arizona doesn't have that.
And even the three pictures that they do

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use, none of them are ever
dominating. But they get outs and they've

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been getting outs, and there they
are where they are now. Yeah,

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so so here we are. That's
why I wanted to get him on and

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talk about his situation for the year, you know, as you can continue

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the job. But obviously softball,
you haven't heard people completingly about the coaches,

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no either of them Chip, you
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baseball, I mean, holy hell, that's that Saturday night. That was

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about as exciting as no, didn't
go Steve, I tried to stay away.

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Okay, thank you, because Friday. Friday was not a good another

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good day. Yeah. So we
I had an event I had to go

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to and we left there about six
fifteen and we were going home down Broadway

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and for a like a instant,
I thought, should I hang it right

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over here on Randolph Way and go
to the game, And they thought,

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nope, I'm going to leave it
as it is. And we got home

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and we watched it and you know, went nuts at the end, and

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it was so cool. You know, those are moments that I know you

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you said, look who's getting sentimental
on my comment on Twitter? But you

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know, Steve, as an Arizona
fan, we haven't had a ton of

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those. I mean, there's been
some championships, all the championships off sure,

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all the great things that you know, basketball has done, the handful

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of things football has done. But
you know we've gotten our hearts broken more

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than we've succeeded. Right, And
to see Arizona that you know, as

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I say a lot of times in
games, like I say, that's a

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game we never get to win the
game in Arizona never gets to win.

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Yeah, and it looked like they
were going to lose that one, and

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then they come back and do that, you know, in the night in

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the ninth inning. Well, and
here they are gonna play again. Well,

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they're playing in the tournament now,
right, their own tournament. Yeah,

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but to win the championship, you
know, forget the tournament. I

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don't care what happens in the tournament. I mean, you'd like to say

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if Fairs on the wins that maybe
they get to hold. That's the only

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thing that's at stake. They're packed
twelve champions and I saw some odds today

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that they were seventy five to one
to win it. The Cultural Series,

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which is you know what it is. There's a lot of teams eligible.

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I guess Tennessee and the Texas A
and M are the top two teams.

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Well See and Baseball is the opposite. I think they've got the pitching to

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make a long run. I mean, you know, that game was essentially

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one because they're their Day three starter, you know, went into the ninth

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innie and and put and and and
kept uh and and and kept them in

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the game. And so they've got
pitching. It didn't show Thursday and Friday

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last week. But they've got the
pitching, and then they've got the offense.

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Again, they don't have the one
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but they they're they're They're a team
that I think has a lot of pieces

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that they can make a nice little
run well, and they gotta get hot,

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lucky and all that good stuff.
The healthy you get to have some

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of the you know, they said
they've got the the guy who batted ninth

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on on Saturday night going into the
game, had five at bats the entire

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season, you know, and he's
struck I think he struck out three times.

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They're center fielder again, he's he's
a guy who hasn't played a ton.

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So they're they're hurting, but you
know they're they're they pulled it off

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on this weekend. Let's take this
call. Hi, you're on the air

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and I on the ball. How's
it going today? What's up, Brian?

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That was the most amazing thing Saturday
night to be there. Yeah,

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you guys go every game? What
uh give it? Give us the field,

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the fan support on both teams.
I get Warregon State fans a lot

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of credit too, because there was
a lot of them. There were a

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lot of them there. Yeah,
it was. It was electric. I

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mean it was no no one leaving
was shocking. Yeah, so people staying

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for the whole game, and people
stayed a lot after the game. Yeah,

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you know to watch the celebration on
the field. What was it crowd

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like about? I think it was
forty six hundred. I think forty nine

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for the it was forty nine for
Saturday, forty ninth Saturday or Saturday five

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thousand Friday, and forty six on
Thursday. Yeah, that's what I think.

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That's what it was. So give
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give us, give us the watch, give us the goose bumps on from

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Saturday night. Oh gosh it was. I mean when they scored that run

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in the ninth, I'm going,
oh my god, got to be kidding.

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It's like nothing can go right for
this team. Yeah, and then

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you know, explaying gets hit by
the pitch, you know, and then

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the next guy gets on. You
know, they can't bun. You know,

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it's kind of surprised that on the
bunt that Brandon Rodgers couldn't bun because

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he had bunted so well, right, you know the previous games. But

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when when Samuel hit that ball,
I thought every I think everybody thought it

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was it was out yeah yeah,
but it is based the deepest part of

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the ballpark. Yeah, but uh
it was. I mean the fan just

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I mean from utter disappointment ten minutes
earlier to just accel. I mean,

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it was just so exciting, cool, cool, cool what happened? Yeah?

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Good, good for them and good
for Chip, right, good for

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Chip. I mean, you know, I mean to what people got to

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realize that team had to live in
crap kick out of him for two days

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and for him actually bring those kids
back and to play the way they did

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on Saturday night, it was was
just incredible. He did it. He

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did an amazing job. And you
know what, you know, the fans

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should be proud of the way he
coached this team. Yeah that's considering they

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were picked up any ninth in the
conference. Right, Well, that's good.

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Yeah, thank you, Brian,
appreciate it got our men on the

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street, right, and you know, he and his family they sat on

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the third base side, so they
were on the side for all the Oregon

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State fans. There were a ton
of them on Thursday night, or a

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lot of them, because usually there's
like a handful behind the behind the dugout

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or next to the dugout, the
visiting dugout. They they they had a

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good amount of people over there,
and that's got to suck to go all

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the way home after losing that game
on Saturday. But they're fine. They're

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good. They're good. They're really
good. Right, So no, the

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next the job is to try to
win this and see what happens. Yeah,

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and you know, look for Oregon
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here too, because they're pretty damn
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they beat the hell out of Arizona
twice, right, and I mean just

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beat the hell out of them.
And then as he said, you know,

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and as Brian said, for Arizona
to come back and hang on and

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just win the one game that they
need to win. That was that was

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pretty cool. That's a fun weekend
cool. And then all you know,

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so again sot All goes over there
and takes care of business, right,

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and they're black where they're back where
we're kind of used to seeing them.

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And we'll talk about that with with
Kendrea and his thoughts on coaching right and

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the job she's doing right, all
right, And then at three fifteen,

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we've got ed Rosberg. He was
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freshman, playing with Francona in that
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Yeah, we'll talk to him about
all some of his thoughts on on

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you know, this time of the
year for those guys. You know what

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that was like, right, and
you know he's been in baseball, he

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watches him, he praises them,
and we'll see about the quality of team

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you have to have to get there, right to win it. Sometimes it

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just again Andy Lopes did it with
a couple of good teams. Yeah.

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Uh and got hot too. Yeah. I mean, you got to have

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the right pieces, right and and
you know one of those is you got

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to have some pitching. In Arizona's
got three starters, the air quality and

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you know, the longer they stay
in the game, the more effective the

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bullpen can be. I think you
only have to go two or three,

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you know, deep into the bullpen
and you know, sitting your guys pitching

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situation. So you know, you
see that they're you know, regardless whether

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they won the league championship, I
mean, they're gonna feel better about them

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so that they did. But they
you know, I think they're gonna have

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a shot to make a decent little
run. You really hope they get to

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host because that makes a huge yur
h. That'll be in two weeks probably,

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Yeah, yeah, after this.
Yeah, you've got this tournament starts

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tomorrow. Arizona doesn't play until Wednesday. Okay, when did they start tomorrow?

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Yeah, it starts tomorrow. I
think you said that. All right,

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anything else NBA Finals, You've got
part of you a lot of stuff

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for getting all that stuff. Definitely
a couple of Arizona players in the that's

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true, three of them. Three
of them, let me see, No,

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Yeah, you know who to Denver
had two more? Yeah, so

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you're you're obviously ghost Yeah, you're
obviously ghosting me when I sent you the

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text on that as well? Which
one that I said? Just just the

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fact that I thought I thought about
taking I thought about taking the two home

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teams. I didn't even do it, right, I didn't bet on the

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games. I just thought about it. They both got powerful. He can

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just move things around with his thoughts. That's crazy. How many how many

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times can the wolf tell me he's
gonna blow the house down and blows them?

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I get that text all the time
because moved out the neighborhood. Now

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I got to move away. See
that text, I've already to the text.

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Let's move on from this text.
Yeah, I mean, I said,

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I said, really, it was
about ten minutes before the who went

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first? The Pacers went first?
Right? Yeah, the Pacers? About

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ten minutes before the Pacers Nicks came. I was coming home from Low's because

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I was doing some some uh some
honey and and uh. I pull in

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the pull into the driveway and I
look at my phone. The games about

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to start room, and I looked
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was trying to debate do I go
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I thought, what are you doing? You're you're not even watch it.

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You're working in the yard. You're
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And even if you weren't working in
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right, So I didn't. I
thought, you're degenerate a few bits because

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you're not even gonna watch the game. And so I didn't. I didn't

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bet. And then they both got
their black kick the game last night.

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Holy cow, it was incredible.
Hunk on the road. Yeah, the

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NBA dough is you have a big
lead that doesn't really matter. But no,

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you're You're right. I think the
way I would have gotten, I

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would have lost because I would have
had Denver. But I really like Indiana

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or Indianapolis because I would have been
the opposite I would have I would have

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taken in New York. Yeah,
Indiana for some reason is very good,

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thick and score. They're not going
to be Boston though, I don't.

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I don't think, at least well, nobody thinks they are. So they're

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like uge under huge underdogs. Yeah. Yeah, but it's been pretty good

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to this point. I don't.
I don't haven't watched much of it because

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I have no really rooting interest,
although it's good to see and everybody kind

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of following t J McConnell get a
lot of run if you're not a U

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A ting a lot of money too. Do you got to go at the

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end? Yeah, he's getting he's
getting a ton of run. Did you

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say that he and JJ Redick are
pretty close, very close. In fact,

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JJ call him my brother, Yes, right, and said hey at

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the time when he saw him kissed
the court and all the how's he going

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to be a pro? How's this
guy going to be nine years later.

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He's one of the better guards out
there. Yeah and yeah, you know

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I didn't Hanson have the He's played
the most games of anybody from that group

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that was in that draft that he
didn't get drafted. Oh really of the

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yeah, well, oh no,
it was it was. It was a

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Pac twelve. It was the Pac
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games in the NBA than anybody else
that was on that Peck twelve conference.

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Well, who was the Yeah,
we gotta go, Well, who's the

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Pac ten Player of the Year?
Pack twelve Player the Year? Because at

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the time he was being considered for
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kind of a surprise that he didn't
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uh and uh and here he is, right, I wonder what the other

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guy does. We'll check. We'll
check Tyrone Wallace? Who who who kind

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of one your guard? Tyrone Wallace
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player of the week. We'll find
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Steve Riverta. He's Jiginsauce. Now
on the phone. We have ed brosperg

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Arizona Baseball nineteen eighty to eighty three
World Champion, World Series Champion. How

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you doing it. I'm doing great. How you guys, we're doing well?

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Thank you for coming on today.
We wanted to talk about the Cats

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and see what else is going on
with your life, But you must be

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pretty proud of what's going on with
you a baseball you know, it's exciting.

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I went to the middle game,
the game that was kind of a

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blowout. I wanted to see Clark
Candiotti pitch. I got an opportunity to

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meet him at the alumni event.
I was very impressed with how mature he

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is, you know, and it's
exciting. It reminds me a lot of

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men creating. When we had to
win one out of the last three games,

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and we lost the first two to
ASU, and then I don't know

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if you remember, we blew him
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But I got to tell you that
I was watching a third game on television,

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listening to Wes clements to the game, and I had to turn it

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off. I was got so nervous. Late the game we couldn't score,

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and then I had to follow that. We ended up winning on a walk

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off, so it was it was
very hard to watch. I just got

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a little nervous. And I'm not
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but yeah, you were probably like
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to I watched it, and I'm
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getting frustrated, you felt they had
some chances. Every time they did they

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hid into a double play or something. But you know, and again they

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score on the top of the ninth
that you go, this is what this

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is what always happens to Arizona unit. You get that close to taste it

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and then they don't get it.
But when you see this team you said

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they did, did they remind you
of anything? Did they look like any

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of the teams that you remember in
the past where it's one of the ones

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that you played, or they remind
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the Cardiac Cats, you know,
coming back and win, and how fitting

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for them to win and have to
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ninth. So there's a little days
out going on here. I tell you

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what, one of my happiest moments
in the last three or four years was

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when Chip was hired at the U
of A. Chip is a tremendous hire.

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He's a baseball U of a legend, and I'm just pulling for this

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guy that he can win a championship
and be part of a nineteen eighty six

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team that won and then and then
bring him home like coach Kindle did three

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times. Hopefully, hopefully they'll roll
into the Pac twelve tournament. But I'm

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very impressed with him, and they're
solid. I was very impressed with Oregon

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State. They got a great team
as well. I'm sure you've seen Kenya

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before other than the Friday game,
and you said you came away pretty impressed

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with his maturity. What else did
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last week. I just I'm I'm
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He's he's a physical specimen six with
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I was impressed with is how mature
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mature guy, very respectful. I'm
just impressed is Cam Walty. I mean,

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how could you not be impressed with
what he did that last game?

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I mean that was that was incredible. How how well he pitched, he

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kept him in the game. And
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You know, they got a good
balance of speed, they got a

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pretty solid bullpen. You know,
they just they're exciting to watch and I

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think they really it was exciting to
see all those people come out and watch

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that. I know they've been getting
really big, good crowds. But that

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was exciting to see how big the
crowds were this last weekend. When you're

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thinking back to that that nineteen eighty
team, what was one of the characteristics

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or a couple of the characteristics that
you think it had. As you know,

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you talked about some of these things
that this team has that you guys

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had that you that you thought put
you in a position to do what you

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did. There had to be something
two or three specific things about that team

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that stick out. Well. For
one, you know, I was a

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senior in high school and I watched
them go to Williamsport the year before,

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and I knew that they had a
lot of great talent coming back with Leopards

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and bus Clements and Clark Christ and
of course Frank come into leading the way.

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And then you have like a Jeff
Morris, and you had Greg Barger

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who started the season as a starter
and ended up being in the bullpens a

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great closer. I think that was
one of the real keys for that nineteen

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eighty team was you've got to have
a bullpen that is dependable and that'll bring

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it home for you. And Greg
Barger was phenomenal. Ron Sismondo, you

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know, pitched a great game in
the World Series as well, but just

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really great balance of veteran leadership like
Francona and Clark and West Clements. And

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then you know, myself, I
came in there as a freshman and it

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kind of reminded me a little bit
what Walt Cam Walsey had to do that

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last day was to win that game
to bring the Fact twelve title home.

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I was called on to pitch the
first game or second game of the World

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Series after we had lost to Saint
John's, and you know, thank god

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I was maybe a freshman. I
didn't get a chance to think about it

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too much, but you know,
that was a tall order for Cam and

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look what he did. He came
up big and pitched a phenomenal game and

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got them to right to the end
where they could walk it off. Last

408
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thing. So are you nervous back
then, if you're too young to know

409
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:07.880
any better, if you're a nervous
if you're nervous Friday night, Saturday night,

410
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you know, I think what really
helped me, steve my little league

411
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.720
background, pitch it in the World
Series as an eleven year old, I

412
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think, you know, and then
pitching at Southpoln High School, pitching in

413
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:23.240
some big games. But I think
you're always going to be nervous before you

414
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throw that first ball. But I
think once you throw that first pitch that

415
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:30.839
the jitters seem to go away,
and it's just you try to tell yourself

416
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:36.640
it's just another game. But I
think playing for some great coaches along the

417
00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:40.279
way, like I did with Ralph
Lannik with Cactus the League, you know,

418
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:44.039
I got a chance to pitch,
you know, in a big stage

419
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:45.559
as a young kid, and I
think that really helped me. When I

420
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went to the U of A.
So Arizona they've got finished the regular season,

421
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they go on to a tournament,
a conference tournament now before they in

422
00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:56.559
his place? Would you have liked
to have had a conference tournament back in

423
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the day. I don't really see
really what it benefits, especially if you

424
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win the title like they did.
I mean, I would love to see

425
00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:08.279
Arizona be able to host a regional. I mean, hopefully if they can

426
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:11.319
win the Pack twelve tournament, maybe
they can host the Reach. I don't

427
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:15.920
know how it works, but I
don't I think it benefits those teams that

428
00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:19.680
are not on top. They need
you know, to find some way to

429
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:23.359
get into the tournament, but I
don't It's like a team like Arizona.

430
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:26.440
I don't see how it can really
benefit them. They already won the Pack

431
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twelve championship. But again, I
think more baseball can necessarily help you because

432
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it gives you more confidence. You
know, they won that big game.

433
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But I don't know, I don't
know how you guys feel about it.

434
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:44.720
I think for college baseball it's dumb. I mean, you know, arms

435
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:45.960
are tired, you know, as
he said, I mean, what do

436
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:49.279
you you know, what are you
trying to prove? So I think I

437
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:52.839
think for college basketball they're great because
there's such a you know, spectator thing.

438
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:56.920
I'm not so sure about baseball.
You know, it just seems like

439
00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:00.440
this time of the year, the
probably the most important thing is rest,

440
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.559
you know, to get ready for
the for the for the playoffs. Right

441
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:08.599
That's that's that is a really great
point. And I think, especially as

442
00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:12.160
the starting pitcher, I think these
guys have lost some innings, but I'm

443
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:17.480
really impressed with, you know,
the way that new pitching coaches come in.

444
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:21.680
Mister Vance has done a phenomenal job
and turned them around. And kudos

445
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:25.519
to them ship for bringing him in
here. Because let's say that to be

446
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.920
successful in baseball, pitching is paramount, and you know, and you've got

447
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.240
to have starters. You've got to
have relievers, you know. And the

448
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.240
thing that we had, I think
at Arizona in nineteen eighty is we had

449
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:41.559
really good starting pitching. We had, like I said, Greg Barger in

450
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:44.599
the bullpen, and we played great
defense. Clark pressed up the middle,

451
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:48.240
Ronnie Quick played second base, Donny
Hyman was a great catcher. You had

452
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:52.680
Johnny Moses in center, and Dwight
played right, and then Frankcona played left.

453
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:59.279
We had really a great defense.
That was a really good team.

454
00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:03.559
Did you stay have you stayed close
with many of them? You know,

455
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:07.640
we talk, We talked once in
a while. I'll hear from donniy Hymen.

456
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:10.599
I was, you know, the
last time I saw Donnie Hyman was

457
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:15.720
at the reunion this past string,
and I just can't believe how great he

458
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.319
looks. He has his aged at
all. So we do we run into

459
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:23.880
each other. I know, Johnny, Johnny or Jeff Morris is still scouting

460
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:30.920
Clark. Scott Stanley's still scouting.
Clark is scouting. So those guys are

461
00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:33.720
still involved in the game. And
and I tell you what, I think

462
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:37.680
Wes Clements does a really good job
doing the play by play. I was

463
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:41.359
very impressed listening to him. So
let me ask you something about about pictures,

464
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.599
because you know you mentioned Clark Candiotti, and you know that throws in

465
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:49.200
the mid nineties. First, you
don't tell me how hard do you throw?

466
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:53.319
But how are you throw? But
how how do you think these guys

467
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:57.160
are throwing so hard these days?
I asked Tom Candiotti that, and you

468
00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:00.839
know, he went into you know, you know, leg strength and all

469
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.400
these other things. But it's just
that so many of these guys throw mid

470
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:07.960
to upper nineties anymore. How do
you think that's happened? I just think,

471
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.559
can you look at the size of
these guys. Look how big Clark

472
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:15.480
is. Clark is six foot four, But if you look at Cam Walsey,

473
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.519
he's not a huge guy. He's
I think he's six foot I'm not

474
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:22.000
sure about his velocity. I didn't
notice how hard he was throwing. But

475
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:26.359
you know the thing that I always
we always talked about the injuries and why

476
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.400
are people having injuries? And I
think the number one reason is that all

477
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.359
these guys are throwing max effort on
every pitch. And you know, if

478
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:38.400
you think about Greg Maddox watching him
pitch, he didn't put max velocity on

479
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:42.440
every pitch like these guys are.
And I think if I always equated to

480
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:47.240
like running your car at one hundred
miles an hour all the time, your

481
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:51.640
car is just not equipped to do
that. So your arm is not equipped

482
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:56.400
to throw the ball max effort on
every pitch. And that's why I think

483
00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:59.960
the change. I was watching that
pitcher on the second game of the City

484
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:02.799
who did a number on Arizona.
He had a great change up, he

485
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:07.039
had a good fastball. He mixed
up his pitches, and I think that's

486
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:12.559
the success, is mixing up your
pitches. And I think it's kind of

487
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:15.960
a dying art nowadays. You think
you look at all these guys that they

488
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:20.079
want to go max effort every pitch, But the guys that have had great

489
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:23.480
success over the years. Look at
Trevor Hoffon. He saved six hundred games

490
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:27.920
and he had a great change up
in his fastball at the end was not

491
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:31.559
spectacular, but he had that change
up that was bugs bunny. Yeah.

492
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:36.039
Well, and as you get older, you have to go to a craftier

493
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:37.440
type of thing. I think that's
who you were, right. You were

494
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:43.519
more crafty. I was crafty and
I did have the ability. Coach Wain,

495
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:46.319
I give him a tremendous amount of
credit. When I got to Arizona,

496
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:49.920
he taught me how to throw the
changeup. I never threw a change

497
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:52.720
up before I got to Arizona,
and I think the change up really helped

498
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:58.160
me. It helped my fastball because
you know, people that throw the good

499
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:01.039
change up, the fastball comes even
more of a weapon. So I was

500
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:06.799
I really had the ability to keep
the ball down, and I think that

501
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:12.119
was my success rate formula was keeping
the ball down and having a good change

502
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:15.119
up. I had a pretty good
slider, but I think keeping the ball

503
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:17.279
down and if you have a great
in feel like we did at Arizona,

504
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:21.920
you're gonna have a chance to win
some games. Again, those are some

505
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:23.839
great names that you mentioned that we're
on on that team, and you know,

506
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:27.599
they all come back to me when
you start running them down. You

507
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.359
know, Dwight Taylor, Johnny Moses, all those guys. That that was

508
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:34.480
a hell of a team and that
you guys were fun to watch. It

509
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.680
was a lot of fun and it
brought back a lot of memories watching,

510
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:40.079
Uh, you know, this team
this past weekend. I think they have,

511
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:45.680
you know, a lot of the
same you know, ideas and the

512
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:49.960
same talent, and you know,
it's the passion. They're very passionate guys.

513
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:52.319
They get excited. And that's why, you know, if you look

514
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:57.319
at college sports, it's fun to
watch because the guys they get excited.

515
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.079
They they're very passionate about it,
and you know, it's fun to watch

516
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.440
it. They're like little kids out
there. And that's kind of how I

517
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:06.799
felt like when I was talking there. Does it seem like forty some I

518
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:10.880
don't want to say all of it
forty or something years ago. No,

519
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.559
it doesn't. And I tell you
I, you know, like I was

520
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:16.360
telling you guys every time I come
on here. I have a great job

521
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:21.559
working at DBAT. It's an indoor
facility over by the Tucson Mall. I

522
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:25.320
get a chance to still throw the
ball around pretty much five days a week,

523
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:29.960
and it keeps me young. And
I really have some really great kids

524
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:34.280
that I get a chance to work
with. There's some really young talented kids

525
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.800
here in Tucson, and I'm hoping
that we'll go to the University of Arizona.

526
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:40.800
You know, we have a good, good nucleus of talent here in

527
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:45.519
this city, and I'm hoping that
they will realize how much fun it is

528
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:49.639
to play in your hometown, like
I was lucky enough to do. Yeah.

529
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:52.599
No, great, Well, thank
you, Ed, appreciate your time.

530
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:54.920
You got it, guys. Thank
you love your shoe. Great,

531
00:34:54.920 --> 00:35:00.480
thank you Rosberg former you Vegue Star
series champ, Little League Chance, a

532
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:04.639
fresh college champ. I mean he
you know, I think he downplayed a

533
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:06.360
little bit. He had a huge
role on that team. You know,

534
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:08.239
he came in as a freshman.
He was a starter all year long,

535
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:12.559
and he was good. You know, he was really good. Yeah.

536
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.719
It takes some Kohonas to do that, it really does, and he had

537
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.840
them and he you know, he
was and again he was the local guy,

538
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.960
right, he was. He was
very fun to watch. So google

539
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:25.639
Kohonas. Anybody to c A j
oh. Google might want to Google translate

540
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:31.000
it. C A j oh got
on it. Okay, let's go all,

541
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:34.079
let's take our break. We'll come
back. We'd love to take your

542
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.400
calls, your thoughts on both Arizona
softball and baseball over the weekend would love

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574
00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:00.840
I'm Steve, you're Jay. You
got Kevin with us today and he called

575
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you got him now? Fourteen minutes
left in this first hour five two zero

576
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:07.400
four, one, six seventy four
forty. That was good to talk to

577
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:10.280
Ed. Yep, yep, he's
always good. I was good. Yeah.

578
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:15.480
He never played the Chip graduate eighty
six right his year. Yeah,

579
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.400
so he was maybe a freshman.
Maybe he was a freshman, no trip

580
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:21.000
graduate eighty seven. So maybe he
was a player of the year in eighty

581
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:22.719
seven, eighty seven, eighty six, five eighty four. Maybe he would

582
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:27.440
not have played with Maybe he would
not have played because that was last year.

583
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:30.639
Was eighty three, eighty three,
Okay, I played eighty three,

584
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:34.760
eighty eighty one, eighty two,
eighty three. Yeah, Well, so

585
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.599
Chip would have come in right after
him. Let me let me say this.

586
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:43.960
I'll say this publicly even though it
doesn't matter. H congrats to Dave

587
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:46.719
he Key, I mean he was
involved in this. Uh, in unfortunate

588
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:51.360
situations with him getting released or or
let go or whatever word you want to

589
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:53.519
use. Uh. And because he
played a big part in this, he

590
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:57.599
hired these two coaches. Yeah,
I mean the coaches were his higher.

591
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:02.719
Tommy Lloyd was his higher, you
know. Uh, for what it's worth

592
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:06.760
of Jed Fish was sort of his
higher. And that it was his watch,

593
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:08.119
you know, I mean a lot
of people say that that was you

594
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:15.800
know, what's his name, Bobby
Robbins. You forget? What are you

595
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:20.079
talking about? Bobby? We haven't
forgotten you. I'm sorry, we know

596
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:23.880
you're still here. No, you
know again, you know, it's it's

597
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:29.400
it's a feel good it's a feel
good department right now with all these you

598
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:32.519
know, with with Clancy Shields,
with Jim Anderson, with with with Laura

599
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:37.239
Ianello, with you know, all
these coaches who were who are doing well.

600
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:40.320
You know, Jim Anderson and his
guys will start in the n cub

601
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:46.800
A tournament. Uh uh the championship
tournament this week. So no, it's

602
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:52.199
you know, it's it's yeah,
this this is all that I get it.

603
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.320
They butchered the finances of everything,
But what are you gonna do?

604
00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:00.679
You know? And again we said, not to minimize you importance of it,

605
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:04.039
but there's a lot of there's a
lot of athletic departments in this big

606
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:07.599
a trouble, if more sure than
Arizona. No. We talked about that

607
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:12.599
and asked Dr Robins the question that
says, how come it seemed like everybody's

608
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:15.360
in Not everybody, but a lot
of the schools already says, well they

609
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:17.920
are that you just haven't heard about
it. Yeah, so yeah, and

610
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.760
part of it was because Arizona's thing
was campus wide. It wasn't just the

611
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.639
athletic department that was that was having
issues, right, and it involved both,

612
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:29.519
with one borrowing money from the other, right right, right, So

613
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:31.199
you know, but yeah, you
know, give it up for Dave Hickey

614
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:36.559
for bringing these folks in. Chips
done a nice job. Look, Chips

615
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:38.480
thirty year in the league and he
won the league, won the champions Well,

616
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:42.559
now it's to your point of last
week, and I'll give you this

617
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:45.840
point. He could become the first
guy. Yeah, he would be the

618
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:50.960
first player of the year and coach
of the year in any sport in Pac

619
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:54.000
ten Pac twelve history, which is
crazy. I hope you get. If

620
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:57.840
he doesn't get it, we got
a problem, Yeah, of course,

621
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:00.960
right, pick to finish ninth,
win the league, yeah, uh,

622
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:02.960
and winning in the fashion that they
did. How do you not give him

623
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:06.159
coach? If you didn't vote for
him for Coach of the Year, then

624
00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:09.119
you're just a big, big giant
pud, big jump pudd. I don't

625
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:12.519
think that's ever been said on the
show. I don't think it's ever been

626
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:17.320
said anywhere. Mark that down.
I don't think you need to hit the

627
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:22.400
dumb so called webster. Yeah,
look it up, you'll find it.

628
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:24.119
I think that's not one of the
words for the dumb, but I don't

629
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:27.840
think. Well, it might be, but it's gone now. It's too

630
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.440
late. The button would be way
too late for that. Okay, if

631
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:31.639
you want to call us, please
do five two, four, one,

632
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:36.119
six, seventy four forty. We
had Brian Collen, right, he was

633
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:39.159
at the game. Yeah, at
the game in uh uh in Tucson here.

634
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:43.119
Yeah, anybody went to softball Give
us a call. Yeah, I'm

635
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.239
not sure. Who have you listened
to? Brian Jefferies' call on that was

636
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:51.679
cool? Yeah, you know,
just uh, you know again the best

637
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:54.119
there is out there, and that
that was also very cool. But you

638
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:57.639
know, It's funny because we you
know, we watched it live on you

639
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:02.079
know, on on on on TV, and then halfway through the celebration,

640
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:06.480
I had to run it back just
because we were yelling right when you hit

641
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:08.559
the ball, We're like yelling.
So I wanted to actually kind of watch

642
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:15.159
it without any disturbance going on.
How was the how was the voice on

643
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:16.280
the TV? It was a good
call. It it was a it was

644
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:20.840
a really great call. But you
know, like like Brian said, you

645
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:23.360
know, it came off his bat. You thought that ball's I'm laying on

646
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:27.880
I'm literally I'm laying down on the
couch and as soon as he hit it,

647
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.119
I'm off the couch and I'm up. I don't know the last time

648
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:35.800
I moved that fast. I was
out an eventimes kept my eyes on Twitter

649
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:38.840
here and I saw everybody. It
was crazy going on Twitter. There was

650
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:44.519
a spectacular moment. I mean,
you know, and baseball is like that,

651
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:46.360
right, It's it's like a it's
like a slam dunk to win a

652
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:50.239
game or whatever. You know,
he had, you know, the one

653
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:54.639
hit in a flash of an instant. He changed everything. It's not like

654
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:58.920
a you know, a drive in
football. You go down and it takes

655
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:00.599
you ten minutes to go down and
score a winning score. I mean,

656
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:05.039
it all happened in a flash.
And the you know, going from zero

657
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:09.559
to one hundred in excitement is what's
cool about that. And I mean it

658
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:12.840
was just a great, a great
moment. And like I said, you

659
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:15.280
know, I keep I just keep
saying, Arizona just never ever gets to

660
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:19.519
win that game. It's just not
you know, that's not how it happens.

661
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.000
And and and the fact that they
did it's cool. I think your

662
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:27.679
luck, I think your luck as
a fan at u of a will change

663
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:30.639
a lot. And in the next
couple a few years, Yeah, because

664
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:34.480
of the Big Twelve, right,
you'll have more success, right, and

665
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:37.920
more and more big moments. Well, Arizona will be a power in baseball,

666
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:45.800
okay, because the two baseball powers
from the Big twelve Oklahoma Texas,

667
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:51.000
and they're gone softball too. I
think it's the same thing for softball Texas

668
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:52.920
or leaving as well. And uh, you know, and then you get

669
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:58.559
to football and again the two powers
of the league are gone. And that's

670
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.239
not to say they aren't really good
teams. By I think Arizona is more

671
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:06.880
on a on a level in all
those sports with the teams that remained in

672
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.320
the league, and just from day
one in the Pac twelve pack ten Pac

673
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:19.840
twelve, Arizona was far behind,
you know, UCLA, USC, Washington

674
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:22.960
and then later Oregon. Let me
ask you this, I mean, you

675
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:30.599
were probably a kid in eighty twenty
impression, at what point did you think

676
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:36.440
that Arizona had caught up finally,
even though you beat them a time or

677
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:38.480
two, they were like number two
in the country. Well, early on,

678
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:43.480
I thought Arizona could compete. I
never thought in football that they caught

679
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:45.840
up. They never caught up.
In football, they just had a few

680
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:50.639
good years, beat those teams,
you know, a few times, but

681
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:55.920
Arizona never got up, got up
into the neighborhood on a consistent base football,

682
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:00.400
football wise, whatever. They never
did. Baseball, yeah, because

683
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:02.320
you know, baseball, Arizona was
as good as there was in you know,

684
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:06.119
in the six pack and so on. You know, they won they

685
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:09.159
won three national championships, you know, while in the Pac twelve. They

686
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:13.639
also won one while they were in
the whack. So I thought baseball and

687
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:16.880
obviously basketball, basketball, they just
lapped everybody, including U C. L

688
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:22.599
A. Yeah, they just lapped
everyone. But and then you know,

689
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:24.519
the same thing goes for softball.
You know, U C. L A

690
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:29.039
was the king of it all and
then Arizona came along. But Arizona never

691
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:35.280
never got to level ground in football. I feel like going in to the

692
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:37.599
Big Twelve, they're on level ground. Yeah. No, I agree with

693
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:40.519
the top of the league. But
now there's a whole bunch of them up

694
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:45.519
there who are the same. Right
Kansas State, Uh, you know,

695
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:52.480
Texas Tech for grabs is totally up
for grabs. And uh so that's to

696
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.440
me, that's gonna be one of
the most interesting things about being in the

697
00:45:55.480 --> 00:46:00.199
in the in the Big Twelve is
that you know, we'll go into each

698
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:04.480
season thinking Arizona's got a chance.
Yeah, I don't. I know a

699
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:06.719
couple of people, I won't say
a few, a couple of people who

700
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:10.000
have given up their basketball tickets,
and I'm saying to them, why would

701
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:14.280
you do? Yeah, this is
the best time to have those tickets.

702
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:17.599
Yeah, given the circumstances of I'm
not too sure. I'm not too sure.

703
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:21.360
I'm not sure they're soured on it. I'm not sure if they're way

704
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:25.039
more expensive, but they will be
more expensive given the prices for the you

705
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:29.039
know, trying to make up,
but I'm thinking, why would you do

706
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:31.320
that? This is the perfect time
to have those. It's kind of basketball

707
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:35.440
is going to be better than it's
ever been. Duke's coming in. The

708
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:40.320
Big twelve is coming coming in.
If I had the money, basketball is

709
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:45.360
going to be because from day from
day one in the in the Pack twelve,

710
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:50.039
Pack ten packed off. It was
very top heavy with Arizona and U

711
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:52.639
c l A. Occasionally Cal would
be good for a year, Stanford was

712
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:57.519
good for a few years. Oregon
got good for a few years, but

713
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:00.159
you know, three or four teams
d been to the league and then it

714
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:04.719
was crap after that. The whole
time, the whole right, you know,

715
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:08.119
the whole fifty forty five years.
You know, the back half of

716
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:12.320
the league was terrible. In the
Pack twelve, right in the Pac ten,

717
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.079
you know, the Washington State,
I mean, Washington State was awful.

718
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:19.400
Sometimes they were just awful, more
and more awful than not. Right

719
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:23.920
mostly, you know, Oregon State
was really bad a bunch of times.

720
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:28.880
ASU was bad the whole time.
I mean, once in a while they

721
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:34.760
had a good team, but overall
ASU's time in the Pac twelve and the

722
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:37.840
Pack ten was not good. By
the way, Let's go back to the

723
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:42.360
question I asked you about the McConnell
just to clarify things, twenty thirteen,

724
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:46.840
fourteen fifteen something, the MVP was
Young, right, twenty fifteen Joseph Young,

725
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:52.440
Joseph Young from Morgan and McConnell was
a close second, if that makes

726
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:55.639
no sense. And then that was
the two thousand and fourteen to fifteen year,

727
00:47:55.960 --> 00:48:00.519
right right. And then it was
twenty thirteen and four team that was

728
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:02.639
the Nick Johnson year. He won
Player of the Year, and that was

729
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:07.360
the team that lost in a very
close game in the Elite eight. The

730
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:10.880
twenty fifteen team got to the lead
eight as well, but they got manhandled

731
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:15.519
by Wisconsin in the Elite eight a
that one, so we look confusion as

732
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:20.679
to what teams, which teams were
which? Kay, Yeah, Well that

733
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:27.159
that McConnell had a handed. The
guy's got he's got to be thirty ish,

734
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:29.800
right, thirty, has got a
few more years left, he's got

735
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:34.880
these good contracts and he's doing well. Yeah, and they made a lot

736
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:37.880
of money. And in fact,
Jay, having covered the team, it's

737
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:43.239
gotta be like thirty two thirty is
thirty one, been in the league nine

738
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:45.480
years, so he red shirted a
year, remember that. So he left

739
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:49.800
here at probably twenty two, twenty
three years old. Gold star for you,

740
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:52.679
j thirty two years old. And
that's why I can do nineteen ninety

741
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:57.480
two. I can do some math, some math. And in fact,

742
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:00.119
I was just going to say that
of all the players all those teams,

743
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:06.840
he was the most uh not affable. But we we talked to him a

744
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:09.599
lot compared to him because Sean would
didn't make him avail. He was an

745
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:13.880
incredibly mature dude. Yeah right,
I mean he came here as an old

746
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:17.239
soul when he got here as a
transfer from de Kaye. He was you

747
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:20.679
kind of felt like he was an
old soul and he was. We talked

748
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:22.639
about you know, when you talk
you couldn't remember he had played with Stanley

749
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:27.159
Johnson and I couldn't have one game
in the I think it was it was

750
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:30.920
a Hawaii tournament. There was a
classic. Yeah, another Hawaii tournament where

751
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:34.639
you know he you heard him on
the on the court. Yeah it's Stanley

752
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.719
Johnson. To shut the hell up, you know, I remember, and

753
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:40.480
you just felt like, no matter
how good you think you are, Stanley,

754
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:44.360
you're not in charge on the court. Sure, it's it's it's TJ

755
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:47.920
McConnell. Sure. In fact,
you know Stanley, as good as as

756
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:52.119
he was, he wasn't that good
compared to the rest of them. The

757
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:59.920
funny thing about is when when when
TJ came here, I was with Louke

758
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:01.800
at one point and he says,
you know, hotly, the best guy

759
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.599
on the team's not even playing.
I don't even think he would be DJ.

760
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:07.000
Right, he's not even playing.
This is what are you talking about?

761
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:09.960
Yeah, he's just practicing with the
team right now. It's we'll call

762
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:15.360
a little guard. And I'm thinking, really, because they were pretty good

763
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:17.559
there, and then they he wasn't
the best guy. I mean, right,

764
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:21.000
he was the best guy, but
he couldn't play. Yeah, yeah,

765
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:22.920
no, And then you're thinking,
and then everybody has, you know,

766
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.480
hindsight twenty twenty. Oh, we
knew he'd be able to play.

767
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:30.960
Stop. There's nobody, nobody in
this town who thought TJ McConnell was going

768
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:34.480
to make it in the NBA.
Yeah. And if you if you say

769
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:37.920
you thought so, your your big
fat, only one dude. And he

770
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:40.440
was probably doing it because he was
his coach, right, yes, because

771
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:44.679
he's gonna say and we were all
thinking, what do you do think it?

772
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:46.719
Yeah, yeah, come on,
and he's outlasted all of them.

773
00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:55.719
Yeah, uh yeah, except for
except for Denver Denver, Oh yeah,

774
00:50:55.719 --> 00:51:00.199
because there were teammates and he left
the year before. Yeah yeah, but

775
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:01.960
yeah, I mean he's you know, it's just uh, you know,

776
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:07.880
he's he's I love I love that
story. I love the guys who do

777
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:13.159
that, right, the guys that
uh, you know, defy the perfect,

778
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:15.920
perfect way to put it, that
defy the odds. You know,

779
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:17.960
he's I mean, he didn't even
look like a great basketball Playnyon Walke.

780
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:22.760
He was not a good airport guy. You're right, because it's just sort

781
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:28.800
of a slow guy that didn't have
He had a terrible outside shot, very

782
00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:32.559
rarely made it. But he ran
the team and and and he had all

783
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:38.360
those other quote unquote intangibles, the
i Q, the intangibles, the leadership.

784
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:46.079
He feared nothing and still doesn't you
know all those things. Insert this

785
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:52.079
name for that name, Steve Kerr, right, right, insert this and

786
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:55.880
just who believed in himself exactly and
uh and and now here he isn't you

787
00:51:55.880 --> 00:52:00.280
know, nine years into the leagues
in the conference finals. Uh, you

788
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:01.440
know, you'd love to see him
get one. That would be so cool.

789
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:05.159
Yeah, which would be another upset. Yeah. Good, Well they

790
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:07.719
got the ceth Tics. Yeah,
Celtics are pretty good. I think they're

791
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:09.280
gonna win at least two. I
think they'd win two. I think the

792
00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:13.559
over under for games that that series
will go it's five and a half.

793
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:15.920
Yeah, I was. I was
actually just looking at the bracket and the

794
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:17.400
Celtics have won their last two series
four to one, and I was wondering,

795
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:21.159
what are the odds they get another
four to one, because they're they're

796
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:24.280
that much better? Yeah, they
could think, Yeah, they certainly could.

797
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:28.239
Okay, okay, let's take our
next break. We're gonna come back.

798
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:31.400
Kevin's gonna step up to the plate
with some breaking news and hear what

799
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:35.000
you got, and then we'll take
youre. Oh. Then after that,

800
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:37.800
we're gonna have Mike Andre will join
us and we'll talk some Arizona souft fall.

801
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:39.159
So be sure to stick around.

