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now, Billy Cunningham, the Great America, and welcome this Monday afternoon the
Tried State. The RNC is underway in Milwaukee, the home of the Brewers
and more plus Reds baseball off until Friday. Tomorrow night's the All Star Games
starting about eight oh five. Red here on the Big One, Ladella,
Cruise, Hunter, Green and Moore. But until then, there's so much
going on. Joining you and I are now live from Milwaukee is John Houston,
who's the like governor, the vice president, the lieutenant governor of the
state of Ohio, and Lieutenant Governor John Eustaed. Welcome again to the Bill
Cunningham Show. And first of all, this Monday afternoon, can you kind
of set the stage those living in the Tristate about the excitement in Milwaukee for
the RNC. Yeah, we were with the Ohio delegation last night. Obviously
there was a little bit of a somber mood because of the shooting and loss
of life with people at that studying and the near loss of President Trump and
one more inch and we would be having a completely different conversation. But also
a sense of resilience. They saw him stand up, get to his feet,
blood on his face, put his fist up and ask them to fight.
And you know what, this delegation is ready to go do that.
It was already at a fever pitch. I think now it's up to Butboni
plague pitch as far as the excitement. And I'd like to think that that
photo taken by the New York Times photographers already won one pulitzer. Imagine that
a second or two with blood on his face, the American flag furled in
the background against a blue sky, and there's Donald Trump with his hand in
the air saying fight, Fight Fight. Secret service on the left and right
reminded me of Ewa Jima in which the Marines were hoisting the flag after they
conquered the island and Ewo GiMA at a terrible price. And historically that's the
photo and I would imagine that it is something that's all over the Milwaukee convention.
Correct. Wow, yeah, it's everywhere. We just had it up
at our morning breakfast here. It is. It's iconic. And you know
what, Willie I, as soon as I saw I was like, that's
the defining iconic photo of the Trump era, and it really defines him.
He's a fighter, and it was an amazing thing, was instinctive to him.
He knew when he got to his feet that he had to show a
sign of strength, not just for himself, but to reassure that audience and
to reassure America and the world that no matter what happens to us, we
will fight forward for what we believe in the American way, and that will
define his presidency. When I watched some of the morning talk shows, fortunately
Joe Scarborough and Zeka Brazinski were taken off, and according to reporting, it's
because they couldn't trust them with the microphones and the camera to say something really
stupid, and they had substitute hosts. But the smart money said jad Vance's
moved up the ladder because of his posting and social media about what happened with
Donald Trump. And of course, you know JD Vance quite well came out
of nowhere in a sense. Eight years ago I was doing events with him
for Himbilly Elergy, and now he's a heartbeat away from the presidency. We
think, do you have any inside scoop? Sometime later today or tomorrow is
going to be announced. Is it your view that JD. Vance is at
the forefront of being the next vice president? Well, I don't know anything
more certain than anyone else does. But if I was a betting man,
Bill, I'd say JD. Vance is going to be the nominee for vice
president. That's what I believe based on the conversations I've had and the things
I've seen created. I think Donald Trump is really taking a liking to him
in the sense that JD is a great articulate spokesperson for the MAGA agenda and
that he is a great defender of Donald Trump. He's been willing to go
toe to toe with the national media and anybody else. And you know,
I know what it's like to be a wingman, Willie, I'm lieutenant governor.
I know you've got to look out for the guy who's leading. And
JD. JD understands what it takes to get that done. I think Donald
Trump recognizes that. I think he wants a smart, articulate spokesperson for the
MAGA agenda, and I see JD as being the leading contender for that role.
And John Houston I said, this can't be a four year movement because
at the end of four years. Who knows what the Democrats will do to
that, to Trump in his second term. But for this a mega movement
to be successful, it needs to be eight to twelve years. And Doug
Bergham looks like a nice guy. He's seventy years old, which is a
bit old, and he may not have the next eight to twelve years left
in him. But JD. Vance is not quite forty years old. And
when JD Vance posted the following after the assassination quote today is not an isolated
incident. The central premise of the Biden campaign is that President Donald Trump is
an authoritarian fascist who must be stopped at all costs. That rhetoric led directly
the President Trump's attempt at assassination quote unquote. Do you agree with JD Vance?
I think that's well said. I think when you vilify a person the
way that Donald Trump has been vilified, there is an attempt to encourage retribution.
And that's why that rhetoric across the board. We should never make it
personal, never make it at a person, never entry to cite violence.
And I think that JD's the way JD said that is spot on. And
the other thing I noticed on politico dot com about a week ago. Biden
was one of those big time tech fundraisers where the tech giants settle up and
spend one hundreds of million dollars houndings and millions of dollars on some sort of
get out the vote campaign that President Joe Biden said, Trump is the bull's
eye. Trump is the bull's eye. How's that language look today? And
this is from the president's own lifts Joe Biden. Yeah, well it looks.
It looks terrible, is how it looks. There's no I hope.
Look, I'm I really hope that that America is learning its lesson. You
can't vilify an individual like that. Look, you don't like what Donald Trump
believes in, then you go use your First Amendment rights to articulate why you
don't think so, But don't try to vilify the person to the extent that
you're truly trying to incite someone out there to take justice into their own hands.
And let there be no mistake, the rhetoric that's being used out there
was the target and personally, and it's led to these tragic events, and
so let's all tone it down. We do not need to resort to violence
to solve our problems in America. We know that there have been assassination attempts
in the past, assaults on the presidency and other elected officials in the country.
You know what, say what you want in terms of fighting against their
ideas, but don't escalate it to the point that you're encouraging violence. An
issue that I raised last night is that there's three branches of the federal government,
the legislative, the judicial, and the executive. The legislative branch was
attacked by a left wing activist named James Hoskinson on June fourteenth, twenty seventeen,
in which he stalked and specifically prepared for a political assassination eighteen members of
the Congress. You might recall in twenty seventeen, Don Hoskinson was an alcoholitte
of Rachel madiw MSNBC and of Bernie Trump's Bernie Sanders supporter, and he decided
to decapitate the leadership of the House of Representatives, and of course Steven Scalie
was shot. Five others were shot. Congressman brad Winstrip basically saved the life.
So rhetoric was of such a character that they tried to decapitate the leadership
of the legislature. And then a few years later you have a situation where
Senator Chuck Schumer is outside the US Supreme Court building saying to Kavanaugh and the
Gorsich, you'll never know what's going to hit you. And then about three
weeks later, a left wing activist with a loaded gun was found outside the
home of Justice Kavanaugh, and but for the intervention of the US Marshall Service,
you could have had an assassinated Supreme Court justice, encouraged by Senator Schumer.
And then Saturday night, the executive branch of government was attacked by another
deranged leftist who wanted to kill the president. So we have the legislative attacks,
the judicial attacks, and the executive branch attacks, all committed by left
wing activists listening to the rhetoric of the left is left the administrative state.
I'm not so sure, And so I see a pattern here of the legislature
attacked by left wing activists, violence and shooting of six people judicial in which
Chuck Schumer should have a little more common sense than stand in front of the
West Supreme Court and tell two justices if it won't rule the right way on
an abortion case to Dobs case, You'll never know what's going to hit you.
And then a few weeks later, the attempt at assassin shows up in
front of Kavanaugh, and then we have the rhetoric of the twenty year old.
He shows up and they can't quite get into his phone yet. I
guess at some point they will. And I bet you a dollar to a
donut. There's some application of the phone in which he was radicalized by left
wing activists. And I would ask you this, was this a mostly peaceful
assassination attempt? To use the words of CNN, was this mostly peaceful the
assassination attempt to Donald Trump? Because when cities burn, CNN will say,
well, it's mostly peaceful. Do you see a pattern here, John Eustad
as a pattern? You articulated it quite well. We can't have this.
You can't use rhetoric. First of all, what they try to do is
they try to intimidate you so that you don't make the policies that they want
to stop you from making. And then they try to use the intimidation of
the media and the courts and legal proceedings to get you. And then additionally,
the fiery rhetic literally is they're waiting for someone in our three hundred plus
million member society to take measures into their own hands. That's what it insights.
It's the politics of personal instruction. It is rhetoric that leads to extremism.
And the left wants to always accuse the right of doing this, but
they are completely guilty of the thing that they suggest that Donald Trump and others
are the ones inciting. They are the ones inciting it that have led to
the issues that you just articulated very well, Bill, and it's but let
me just say that it's on all of them. We got to lead by
example. I will say this right now. Nobody should ever attack another individual
with violence to solve their political disagreements. There's no way to do it.
It's not how we do it in America. But we should not be surprised
that things happen like this when essentially the rhetoric that they're doing using our encouraging
people when they say that Donald Trump will end democracy, He'll end our nation
as we know it, Well, what is that inviting someone to do take
to take justice into their own hands? And it's wrong. Well, the
New Republic, which is a left wing magazine and website has a photo of
Donald Trump on its cover with the Hitler mustache. And so I've said many
times, I've asked many priests this question. If you go back in time
to the nineteen late nineteen twenties and could put a bullet in Adolf Hitler's head,
would you do it, knowing what's coming into the future. And many
say yes, thinking about Adolf Hitler did. And when you compare Donald Trump,
who had a great, successful four year term as our president, and
compare him to Adolf Hitler, who massacred fifty million people, had the ovens
ready for the Jews, and say Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler, weak minded
individuals respond Now, lastly, about two hours ago, Judge Cannon and Florida
tossed the document's case against Donald Trump because Jack Smith's appointment was unconstitutional. And
clearly it was unconstitutional. But many times we allow on constitutional acts in this
country if it's directed against Donald Trump. What's your initial impression of the federal
cases against Donald Trump going up in smoke. Well, it means that it's
not going to proceed before the election, and we'll let the voters decide what
they think of what should be done. Because if they elect Donald Trump president,
this case goes away and the right though the judge was right about this,
it's the kangaroo court of injustice that happens at the federal level when they
try to criminalize political grievances, and this judge put a stop to it.
That's good. If Trump was not a candidate, none of us would be
happening. And if Trump was not leading in the polls, none of this
would have been happening. And sadly, I don't want it too many by
calling it a mostly peaceful assassination attempt, because there's a fire chief who's dead
because of the rhetoric of the left that compelled this mentally ill twenty year old
to be on a roof. Father, please, father tried to protect his
children dead because the rhetoric incited this, This powered to do a treacherous thing
by trying to take the life of the former president and the bystanders who were
there supporting him were killed and injured, traumatized. And there's no place for
this in American society, and they should stop it. They should stop this
attack on Trump and inciting the kinds of responses from the public that we saw
on Saturday night, and I think Saint Michael the Archangel was protecting the Trumpster
because he was looking forward, presenting the side of his head to the assassin.
And just as the bullet was being Firedy turned to the right and the
back of his head became the top of his right ear. And but for
the intervention of God Almighty, I think we would have a different issue.
I can't imagine this morning the RNC. I can't imagine what would happen.
Well, that's the scary thing to think about, is that one more inch
would have changed the course of the world. And today we would be sitting
here in chaos of this country. I mean, we would be an absolute
chaos. If that bullet had been an inch further towards Donald Trump's head,
we would be the country would be in civil war essentially from a political point
of view over what had happened. And thankfully, by the grace of God,
we're not having that conversation today and that we're hopefully and I will say
this, I prayerfully say this, Bill, Let's, you know, pull
it back. Let's we do not need to use the language that encourages violence.
For using treachery to settle our political differences. We are a civilized society,
or if we want to live in one, we've got to stop doing
that. John Houston, a Lieutenant governor, thank you very much, well
said, and we'll continue and once again have a great successful convention. I
can't imagine Thursday night when Trump appears on stage. I assume with bandages on
his head, there might be a thirty minute standing ovation. And reminds me
of Ronald Reagan getting shot by Michael Hinckley and how popular he was thereafter,
and I and I would think the same thing's going to happen Thursday night.
But I also want to point out that there's a go fundme page Donald Trump
is set up for the victims of this assassination attempt to help with their expenses.
None of them are rich people, and there's two still in the hospital
fighting for their lives and one dead, and we can't forget them go fund
me page, And John, maybe in the Ohio delegation this afternoon you could
pass that around to the delegate members to make some contribution financially to help the
victims of this assassination attempt in Butler County, Pennsylvania. But John Houstead,
we gotta go once again, thank you for coming on The Bill Cunningham Show.
Thank you, John, thank you, thank you very much. Right,
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