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All right, welcome to you.
Don't drop the tongs. I'm Bara boy.

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Got Kyle from You're Behind Barbecue soon
to be Birds and Bones. It

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sounds like quiet in here. Well, I mean, we don't worry.

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It'll get a lot of I got
headphones on. I'm hungry as sage,

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a savage, savage, savage.
You got Phil Johnson in the house as

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well today, so we gotta get
started. We got a guest joining us

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here in a little bit. Gonna
call us probably about fifteen minutes or so.

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Give us a little rundown, Kyle
on who our guest is. Today,

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we got a celebrity chef Ross Restaurant
Tour award winning recording artist Roger MOOKI.

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I think I said that right right
time to a lot of fire.

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Yeah, I saw this thing on
the cooking of fire. Bro. So

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he's from Canada. It looks like, yes, yes, there's a lot

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of West Indian uh heritage out in
Toronto. I was surprised. That's crazy.

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Surprised Toronto. Toronto's are awesome.
I was. I thought I thought

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New York had like the most like
West Indian population, but when I went

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to Toronto, Oh my goodness,
Bro, it was like Rodeo on every

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corner. But how we have taco
stands? There was like yer, did

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their airport freaky out at all?
Toronto? Well, yes, because I

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went there for work and I got
put in a little cubicle, yes,

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explaining where I had to go and
when I was coming back, I had

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to open up my reservations. But
customs, oh, I had to do

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the same thing when I went there. But the thing that blew me like

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I got all that, okay,
cool, let's do the whole thing.

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But then it's like, damn,
where's my bag? Because it's about an

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hour and a half, two hours, yes, going through all this.

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Then you look over this balcony and
there's all the all the better broll backs

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are just thrown places like there's no
organization. Yes, so I found my

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bag. It's got stickers on it. Boom. You go outside, you

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know how like normal normal airports.
Yeah, like you park. You can't

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park for like more than like a
couple of seconds, or cops on you

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and say, yeah, get going, bro, everybody's just parked hanging out.

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It is bad, bro, bad. That's all. I booked a

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I booked a hotel. I got
two double beds right, I get up

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there they went two twin beds.
Well that's kind of you're big too,

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bro, But you think what screwed
to the wall. I was like,

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gonna trying to push it together.
That's kind of common in some major cities.

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I mean, I've been in New
York before and stayed in some places

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where you go in and you're like, it wasn't a double it said double.

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Yeah. Where you walking here like
is this? You're like, oh,

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this is the whole room? Where's
the bathroom? The bathrooms and got

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some tiny rooms there. So we
need to talk about something before Roger calls

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us here. So there's a group
here between Phil, Kyle and myself,

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and things got a little. It
got fifteen minutes, it got a little

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got a little heated. So we're
gonna do it. We're gonna we're gonna

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have a quick little session here before
Roger joined us. He's a much more

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laid back dude. But things got
heated between the three of us. I

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don't think he did. Oh,
I think they got So what is what

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happened was is and I'm gonna summarize
it. Kyle was called out by Phil

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for copying recipes no, what for
stealing. Let's let's bring it back.

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Let's bring it back. I was
minding my business in the morning, and

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you poked a bear a couple of
times, like, oh, look at

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this little recipe right here. Poked
it. Why did I poke it?

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Though? I poked it? Because
I poked it. I poked it because

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you accused Kyle of stealing your recipes
and you said he wasn't original, and

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you poked it, and then you
got our boy summittee involved, and we're

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calling Kyle out on some stuff.
Correct. I did get called a very

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bad name. I'm sure you did. I will not say all this public

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you were, you were calling him
out, you were calling him out,

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and you were next to me that
and we were saying that there was no

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one being original and that everybody was
stealing recipes, and you were getting all

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been out of shape about this.
So what I knew that it was under

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your skin and it was getting a
rise out of you. Naturally, I'm

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going to do it because what I
have said to you, and I have

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said to everyone, is that everybody
steals everything and everybody copies everything in some

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regards, and your argument phil correct. What wrong is people don't give credit

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to the originators of it, right? Correct? Okay, So I go

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back to this conversation. I have
though, Phil, have you ever made

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a pulled pork sandwich? Yes?
Did you originate? And do you give

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credit to the originator of the pulled
pork sandwich? Do you even know who

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the person is? But here's the
do I took my It's my pull pork

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sandwich that I made originally. I
didn't go to somebody's page and look and

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did identical to what that person did. So that's my purse, that's my

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pull pork sandwich. So, my
polks, you've never made a pull pork

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sandwich. You've never made and you
you've never made a pull pork sandwich a

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traditional pull pork sandwich, pulled pork
between two pieces of bread. No,

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I would always flip it and do
something extra to it. Okay, if

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you ever now you you're one sandwich
that you made where you you talked about

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where the mac and cheese? Right? Can we bring me back that mac

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and cheese that you did? Right? I would research ball. That was

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make it cheese ball? Yeah?
Correct? That was made in nineteen thirteen

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by another woman. Did you give
her credit? No, you didn't eat.

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Look my my biggest get the nerve
already. Look because here's the deal,

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my biggest thing. I want to
know what I did. Yo,

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Look you know what, and you
know what. I'm past it. But

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I'm past it because it was more
of a big brother little brother. It

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was an Eli and Painting type deal. No, No, it was.

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It was. It was. It
was, it was. It was screw

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those it was, it was,
it was. It was definitely a big

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brother, little brother situation. David
Golia and and and the reason, the

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reason being is because we spend a
lot of time together and we talked so

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much in the truck to ourselves.
Right. But now if you talk to

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yourself with your brother and then he
comes out and then he says, oh

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I created this, and you're like
dang, so like we talked to him

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one example. No, no,
because because I don't want to go down

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that row. Here's the deal.
Here's my biggest deal. If you want

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to get creative, go to a
supermarket and get creative. Don't look at

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social media and get creative, because
that's not being creative. But how many

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recipes are born from going and restaurants
and see inspirations and making adjustments because because

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you get motivated motivated. No,
it's not just about corn, bro Okay,

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what about this? What about my
sliders? My slider? My what?

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What the hell was it my sausages
either, barrel sausages. No,

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And it wasn't just about that,
Kyle. That's why I'm saying it was.

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It was angry, a lot,
a lot of things you were having

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angry. I'm over it. My
big brother knows what it was about.

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Just what it was about. It
wasn't just a recipe, heard her exactly

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exactly. So can we share?
No? No, we're not gonna share

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because it's a it's a family quarrel, and I'm over it. But I'm

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just saying, like, look,
but okay, hold on, hold on,

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there's two sides to every story.
Yes it is okay, all right,

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So I just have one thing to
say that next time you make your

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mac and cheese bowl, will you
please? No, I'm not googling doing

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a favorite and will you get off? Elizabeth Raffald in eighteen twenty two credit

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for that, and because according to
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day, in that day with Barrel's
sausage. You made it seem like you

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were going because you even called no. No, I know, but you

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called my name out in that text
that morning he said, oh, Phil

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inspired me to make I was like, oh, here we go again,

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So yes, you did me or
him? No, he started you said,

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oh, Phil's gonna love tomorrow's recipe. Because I'm no, I was,

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I was inspired by sausage. I
was like, here we go again.

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I just did the I just did
the sausage. And what did you

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do? I know? I we
spoke about it on the last podcast.

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He was like, oh, what's
the barbecue? He did the sausage and

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pepper. His was I did that? He know? He yeah, that

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was his game day deal. He's
gonna love tomorrow. And he didn't,

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which was the barrel? He didn't
listen to the podcast and understand that I

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make the dish. Okay, got
it? So so can I. I'm

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sorry for that. I'm oh,
I'm I'm staggered, I'm stumbling. I'm

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you know what, I'm not as
we were using yours, You're not I

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created the barrel boy, I'm not. I've mixed it up a little bit.

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Now I have a question about the
barrel? Boy? Am I allowed

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to ask this question? Philm Am, I gonna get in trouble. I

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don't care. So you wrapped him
in bacon? I wrap everything about it?

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And I know you do. I
heard it, and I'm actually heard

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that ever run out of bacon,
and I'm actually gonna give you a little

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grief about that. I wrapped everything
in bacon. I know it's a little

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weird. No, it's not that
weird. It is bro there is everything

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in bacas. It's a little it's
it's wouldn't you grief? Phil? No,

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I'm not about I heard it.
You already heard already. How many

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things can I wrap a big when
you when my goal is to wrap everything,

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I can even think of bacon?
Okay, So my question about the

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things that you made, the passage
that you that you find inspiration in my

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sauce addressed me that I find inspiration
is somebody else on mine. I did

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feel I found inspiration, So okay, can you find it in the grocery

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store? Like go up and down
the island, be like, oh wow,

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I wonder what that would be like
if I use rap to bacon.

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How long? How long you cooking
for? When what're you cooking on?

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I cooked out the GM How long
is you cooking for till the sausage are

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actually till the bacon's done? Yo? Look, this is this is all

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I told my big brother. I
said, Look, if my little brother

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wants to borrow my clothes, just
ask me. Just ask me before you

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borrow them. Like ask me?
Like, Yo, can I borrow your

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clothes? Ye? Don't just wear
them? But can I bring them back?

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Can I talk about the corn though? No, I want to talk

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about the Okay, we're not going
to the corn. Thing feels feels all

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in this feelings still and nicotine feel
is still here. Wait? Hold,

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can we talk about how's that?
Can we talk? Can we have a

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little heart to heart? How's that
going? Or should we not talk about

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them? It's it's hard you still? Are you still doing it? No?

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I'm not, I'm not. I'm
not. I don't know what I

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mean. You're still on the program? You're month? Two months off?

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No, probably like a month?
And then if I if I do see

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somebody, I will take a couple
of pulls. What about a zinny bar?

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Forget that? We got a seven
hour drive to the Ventura. So

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so you guys get out. Okay, So we've we've established the fact that

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Phils. Okay, even though we
stole some recipes and you know, and

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here's the deal. I don't care
if people take the recipe, and I

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don't care if they don't give me
credit, but just don't act like it's

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yours. I not get it.
Let me hold on, we're gonna go,

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right, We're gonna start there.
Hold on, you go on any

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one of my videos. Okay,
it does not say hi, my name

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is Kyle, and I created this
bacon wrapped oreo stuffed with cream, cheese

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and bacon. Yo. You know
it had been a better It would have

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been a better thing, right,
Okay, why do you because now set

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it out? Is this not me? This is not this is not Kyle?

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All right, my little brother,
what's up y'all? Today we're doing

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deep fried corn? Wong Yo.
Shout out to the traphouse, Yo,

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shout out to my big brother Phil. I'm gonna do deep fried corn.

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But what's the backstory why I did
that? Yeah, because we can't get

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out of because because of a batter
from my Boyfidel, and I get that.

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But you could have shouted me out
too, bro, like, shout

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out you could you shall you shout
barrow out for his sausage. But pause,

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but but and any any of my
videos, none of them. I

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ever say, hello, my name
is Kyle. Today we're gonna do bacon.

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God, how you start? Don't? I don't start. I just

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go. I go up to the
camera. You say, I take,

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I say we're doing wing or what. I don't know, deep Fried Corn

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took a bite and that's it.
I don't say anything else than that.

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That's all my skills. I just
feel like you, you both, you

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both need to get a room to
each other, either fight or hug.

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One of the two needs to happen
here. I don't know what the deals

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you do you, but you guys
need to all right, So we got

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Roger should be calling us here in
just a second, come out. We

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done? Because you two, you
two, there's a lot, there's a

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lot of contentiousness. There's nothing,
no no, I gotta edit this sound

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good a little bit like what's still
on this spot. This is go to

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the bathroom, like this is roch
All right, So you guys, competition

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coming up, competition. So I
practice, I practice practice, and we

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have and we have. Uh I
got a royal American? I got a

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question. Wait, and that's another
thing. Bro. Hold on, see

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again, Bro, you just do
a lot of sneaky stuff. Now,

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you do a lot of sneaky stuff, bro, and then don't even include

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me like like like bro, like
remember when I said, Yo, I

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don't want to be the Bobby Boy
of this podcast. Yeah. I still

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haven't figured out he got it.
I'll google it. Yo. So all

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this time, all this time,
all this time, we've been saying,

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oh, yeah, I'm getting the
same spot. I'm getting the same spot

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at the Royal. I'm getting same
spot. What the same spot is?

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What at the Royal? I'm getting
the same spot at the Royal. I'm

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getting the same spot at the Royal? And how are you in? Smitty?

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Right next to no Idea? No
Idea? I called Coofeni right now.

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We signed up. We gave him
our spot number from the sign that

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we've had in previous years that we're
always up against the fence, and they

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put us right in Smitty's camp.
That's where we're at. I know,

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I guess where I'm at. I'm
at. I didn't even see where you're

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at. On the next generating I'm
always next to the general. You know

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what you know? I feel the
power. You know why I think they

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did that. I think because of
sun smoke. Uh sweet, who's the

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guy that's from Vegas, son of
sweet smoke? Yeah, yeah, sweet

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smoke. Sweet smoke que from Florida
is coming coming, yes, because he

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couldn't make it because of cancer.
You know, if I beat it to

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see him, so I got a
big fat kiss for him. So now

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they got them too together, Yes, and that's what they cooked together.

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I don't think so. Yeah.
I think they're cooking separate this year.

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All right. I think I don't
know why I got moved there. I

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have no fight, no clue.
Well, I hope you guys can yo,

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I'm still across the field. Why
am I always even that? Bro?

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I could throw a rock and I
can't throw with the crap, and

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I could hit your trailer. Guarantee
it, Phil, Phil again. We

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need to put you in a room
and let you hug everyone or fight everyone.

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No, there's a lot of animosity. Maybe a puff. I mean,

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I know I need to smoke.
You want to see any bar from

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I don't want you. There's some
the queue in this cabinet. You want

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something that too? I mean goodness, we're going to vent we had to

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do a cooking demos that the weekend
before the Royal. What you're doing on

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your cooking demo? So that's what
I'm gonna ask you. Oh, don't

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go oh no, I know.
If he goes up first, it does

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my runs beat. I got all
the ingredients to do my no. No,

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no, no, no, no
no, because when I'm doing I'm

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doing the anything avocado, right,
it's anything avocado, it's tacos. Are

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you doing baking wrapped avocado? Of
course? Course, of course are you

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really? No, he's doing I'm
not telling you what I'm doing because those

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people that are going there are listening. So baking wrapped, I'm gonna do

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deep fried avocado wrapped and bacon.
You know that's what you do. You

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know it, you know it.
You know deep frind avocado wrapped and bacon

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with green chili barbecue, rug seasoning
on the outside on the inside. Hello

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this, Kyle, don't drop the
tongues. Are you doing? What's up?

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Bro? Hey? Sorry, we're
on. We're having a hell of

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a day today. No, it's
not, it's just operator Era. You

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are live. You are live with
barrel boy filled the grill. Kyle,

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don't drop the tongs. What did
it do? Ro oh nice? What's

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not? What's up? You'll fill
the grey the Trinidad. What's going on?

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I follow you? Brother? No, Bro, I know, I

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know. We just was on two
different continents because you grew up in Toronto.

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I am born Tonia. At five
years old, I went to Edmonton.

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I grew up in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, and then when I

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was about seventeen, I moved Toronto. So most of my life. Yes,

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yes, that's what I know.
And you know, I went to

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Toronto for the first time and that
was just like New York. But I

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just didn't understand that the West Indian
population out there. I was just telling

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these guys. I was like,
it was like a roadie shop on every

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quarter. I was loving it.
Bro Toronto is one of my favorite thingies

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in the world, especially in the
summer. Bro Toronto in the summer,

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yeah, because the winter ain't no
good. I almost killed myself out there

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trying to go around the corner.
I can see that I could see Phil

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driving in the stand. No,
it wasn't driving, it was breathing.

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That cold are almost broze my brain. It was like twenty below. Bro.

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I was I was like, oh, I think I'm dying while I

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was walking. Man, Yo,
we glad to have you on man.

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What's going on with you? Respect
man? Man? Lots going on,

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Man, about to release another album
and a book coming out, all kinds

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of stuff going, all kinds of
stuff going, all though. All right,

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So Roger, Hey, so before
we jump into that, give us

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give our give our listeners a little
bit about you know, how'd you got

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started in all this? And I
honestly got to know, Like we'll get

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to this later too. It's like
how many people stop you and say times

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to a lot of fire. I'm
telling you, bro, because I ever

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met you in real life, ro
I'd be straight up to you. Just

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why, That's all I would say
to you, Just not hide nothing.

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Just hey man. You know it's
funny about that dog because a lot of

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people come up to me and they're
like, yo, I love your show

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Man on Fire. I'm like,
yeah, you love it that much?

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You love it that much? Job
yo, Yo. So I came up

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man like I'm like third generation food
and beverage person with my family. When

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I was like around sixteen, I
started working in restaurants and doing music.

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So I take all my money from
the restaurants and do music. And then

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for a while, like music just
dominated my calendar for like decade, all

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I did was music. Professionally.
I hate the music industry, but I

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love making music. So I went
back to culinary going to cooking school,

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did all that. Before long,
I started over the restaurants and doing TV

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shows and launching all that stuff,
and continue to release music throughout that period

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as well. And you know,
it's just been a ride ever since of

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balancing out making new things, you
know, like creating albums or most of

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I'm like, my fifth studio album
is coming out right now, independent solo

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album. Sorry, I've got this
book coming out that goes with it.

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It's like an art book. And
then I'm doing these shows and stuff.

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So it's like now it's just a
hot jumble love festival of all these different

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creative projects. You know. Yeah, that's awesome man. All Right,

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So you got Roger got a book
coming out in October as well as the

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album. Tell us about how the
two of those coincide and how does it

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bring in your cooking aspirations? Yeah, it brings in no cooking aspirations whatsoever.

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The only thing that's cooking related.
Is I always named my albums around

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some kind of food thing. So
my last couple of each your words.

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One of those edibles, the one
that I'm dropping now, is going to

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be called sound Bites, and it
kind of plays off of like the generation

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we're in right now. You know, we have a very short attention span.

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The averaging attention stand is shorter than
that of a goldfish, according to

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this study, righter than even that. Trust me, no, I'm doing

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much. I'm doing much rooms now
I'm trying to focus. Oh wow,

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you guys started gunn start talking to
focus. So I took this album called

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sound Bites, and it's basically like
no song on it is longer than one

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minute thirty seconds, and so it's
like really compresses this idea of short attention

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span and attention deficit. And I've
released a single right now called Stuck on

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Stupid because you know, there's just
so much stupidity out there right now.

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And see you on my Instagram,
you see I've been posting all kinds of

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stupid stuff and putting the song on
there, so you know that's they're fun.

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So that comes on in October,
and that relates to the book,

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because the book is sort of like
a movie in your hands. There's original

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artwork that I did. There are
stories that I wrote as well that are

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all of them are a hundred words
are shorter to kind of go with this

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form factor of press attention span.
And then there's an album a QR code

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to the album. You hit this
QR code and you listen to the music,

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see the visuals, read the stories. And then I brought in my

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sister, Francesca Ekoyas, this award
winning Nigerian author, and she wrote essays

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contextualizing all the artwork, all the
music, all the stories her life and

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my life and how we came to
creativity and just just bringing the whole story

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together, you know. So it's
really cool. That book is called Curious

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Sounds and the album is called sound
Bites. All that's dropping in October.

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YEA, what type of music is
it? What genre? The shipop?

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My brother hip hop music the world? So I heard a podcast where you

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were on and it just kind of
it kind of reminded me of my story

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as well as far as uh,
you know, just coming from like the

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hip hop community community and then you
know, going in to food, but

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hip hop being more of a culture
in our lifestyle, right, more than

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just a genre of music. Is
that not true? Yeah? One hundred

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percent. Like even when I was
doing this book with the artworks, so

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what I do is I would paint
the painting, all original artworks, right.

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What I do on some of them
is I paint the paintings, but

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I photographed just like a corner of
it, like twenty five percent of it.

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Zoom in on that, and I
built that as a as a collage

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piece, and then I'd layer that
with other things where I sampled my own

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artworks like that, and then create
these original artworks based off these sampled visuals.

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Essentially, I'm so like sampling myself
visually and creating these artworks. So

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so the culture and the legacy of
hip hop runs as a heavy thread through

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this this art book. You know, that's dope. That's dope. Very

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cool, all right, So you
got Man fire Food, you got stuff

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you've been doing with Food Network and
all that. How did you go?

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How'd you go from working restaurants open
restaurants to be in a TV star?

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What was that transition? Like?
How was the steps? I was running

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a very small restaurant in Toronto,
on the East End, and right around

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the corner was where they used to
shoot all the Food Network Canada shows.

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At the time, this was like, I don't know, sixteen years ago,

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fifteen years old, something like that, two thousand and four ish,

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right, so even long almost twenty
years ago. So they were filling stuff

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around the corner. And so because
they were just launching the channel at that

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time, they used to come in
all the time to the restaurant because they

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weren't about to be working eighteen hours
later. So I got to know them

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over a year. I just knew
their names. I didn't know. I

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don't ask people like what they do
for their jobs and stuff like that,

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you know. So after about a
year they said, hey, you know,

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we worked for the Food Network and
blah blah blah. And by that

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time I had done like so much
music and I just want I wanted to

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have a very anonymous lifestyle. So
I was like, you know, that's

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cool, nice to meet you,
you know again, you know, because

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they're regulars. Nice to see you, have a nice day. And then

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they're like, no, no,
we want to audition you for some stuff.

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I'm like, you know, I'm
not like super interested in that.

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I just want to work at the
home kind of thing. And then after

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a little while they kept kind of
coming around, and then I opened some

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restaurants and a few years later and
they showed up in the dining room again,

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and at that time I was a
little bit more amenable to kind of

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expanding my breath of what I do. So we dove in and reconnected,

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and a couple of years later we
launched my first show, every Day Exotic.

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That was in two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, and

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I dropped the album Soul Food with
Warner with that and then that was it

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man, and so it just kind
of kept on that trajectory. And then

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they did heat Seekers with our own
Sanchez and all the iron chefs, chop

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a penitor and show that show man
fried foods blah blah blah. You know,

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yo, going back right. So
one of my uh inspirations was actually

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from Canada. It was a licensed
to grille Robert Rainfort. Was he part

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of Yeah? Yeah, was he
part of that, like that Whole Food

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Network in the beginning, And because
I used to watch that in the States,

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like and I just loved the way
he would take a dish, and

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we just spoke about it earlier,
being creative right now and blending flavors together,

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you know, and and just you
know, like he would take like

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orange juice and like mix it and
use it as a marin it and you

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know, make just fresh ingredients to
make his own marin it. Yeah.

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No, Rob is definitely one of
the old jees who preceded me. You

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know, he opened that gateway for
sure, man back then. So just

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carrying that torch, my brother,
Yo, that's good. So okay,

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so on on this okay, so
man, fire food. Right. My

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dad is a massive fan anytime this
show's on, bro, he's on it

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now. We're getting ready to hope, we're getting ready to open up a

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US fright. And you know,
after watching this this your guys, the

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show, it's like some of this
stuff is crazy, bro. Like they're

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hanging whole what do you call whole
cows, They're doing all kinds of you

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guys are doing all kinds of ye. Yeah, yeah, they're wild.

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Yeah they're wild, bro, yea
wild. What's the wildest the wildest like

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episode or the wildest memory that you
have of doing this? You know,

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it's there's so many locations, man, it's mostly about the focuses around people.

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But I tell you, you know, we were gonna do alligator one

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day. Yeah, and then that
was like, no, that's too outside

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of for man fire food. That's
more like Andrew Zimberg type joint, you

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know. So, but I always
wanted to kind of dive in and try

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and do more interesting stuff, more
stuff from around the world, because you

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know, like if you travel around
the world, man, you go Argentina,

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Columbia, Korea, Yea, and
all these parts of the world.

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They love cooking over fire. They
have a long history of it. They

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00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:03.079
use lots of different wood, lots
of different flavors, spicing, yeah,

410
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.039
man. And I was always trying
to push that envelope, you know.

411
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:10.039
So I think we just kind of
press the surface on that joint, be

412
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:14.359
honest. Nice. So okay,
so working working in you know, working

413
00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:19.359
with the food. I don't know
where I was going with that. But

414
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:26.799
what I'm saying, every time you're
doing this these episodes, I mean,

415
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.599
do you learn Are you learning like
every time you're doing this or is it

416
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:34.640
just is it so wild you you
just kind of know what's going on the

417
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:38.720
whole time. I one, it
depends on the location. You know,

418
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:45.440
so like you can't go to two
hundred locations and everybody's operating at like mister

419
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:51.559
mia level, you know what I
mean. Right, So some people you

420
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:53.599
learn a lot more from and then
sometimes they don't want to let off the

421
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:57.559
secret secret on camera. So but
on the side they'll pull me. It's

422
00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:00.920
like, yo, we really honest
and we do this, we do that,

423
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.759
blah blah blah. I'm like,
oh, we lads, Look,

424
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.119
it's a little gangster little tricks and
tips that I picked up off camera that

425
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.000
they weren't ready willing to kind of
let off those secrets. I kind of

426
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:15.119
picked up those things. So those
are kind of the magic gems. But

427
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:18.480
you know, everybody got their little
twists and everybody got their little angle and

428
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:21.640
lead on it, and uh had
something to offer, you know. But

429
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.240
like I said, not everybody's listening, miyake. Some some people are like

430
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:30.640
you know, Danielle san is still
you know all right. So the stuff

431
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:36.920
you've learned doing Man Fire Food and
your other shows, how have you taken

432
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:41.480
those into the kitchen today? Oh? Man? You see. For me,

433
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:45.960
I'm always experimenting, Like I got
restaurant in Toronto Pearson Airport and so

434
00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:48.880
you know, when we're doing that
stuff for the restaurant, I'm always taking

435
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:55.039
all of these adventures and trying to
package them up into the format of what

436
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.480
my restaurant is, right, and
so those whole kind of live and do

437
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:00.920
their thing, and those recipes all
we see are exactly the same. So

438
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:03.680
if you come now or six months
later and it's still on the menu,

439
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.759
it's going to be exactly the same. For me personally, I'm always experimenting.

440
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.559
Man, I don't cook the same
thing twice at home. I'm always

441
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:14.920
tweaking little things, trying a little
things. You don't cook the same thing

442
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:18.839
twice at home. Yeah, So
I mean I might make curry chicken several

443
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.920
times, but I might use like
coconut oil in one time. I might

444
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.640
try it with a different oil.
I might try with g I might try

445
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:32.200
it with uh baking wrap. Yo. So we just got on Kyle because

446
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:36.519
he's baking wraps. That's his This
is his main ingredient for every recipe is

447
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:41.079
bacon. Who doesn't love bacon?
Everybody loves bacon. I don't know bacon.

448
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.160
I like bacon. I like bacon, but like you know, like

449
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:53.480
everything, yo. Yeah, that
I'll take a rap every yo. I

450
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:56.279
told him. I said, I
said, yo, listen, I said,

451
00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:02.799
bro, get your creativity in the
supermarket and not in on social media.

452
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:10.680
Yea yeah, don't get me started
by social media. That road.

453
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:14.400
I would love to go down that
road because because this is this is the

454
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:17.359
deal. I fight with Kyle all
the time. This is my little brother,

455
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:18.960
right, So I fight with him
all the time because I'm like,

456
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:23.599
Bro, don't feed into this bull
crap. All right. Being hip hop,

457
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:27.039
right, we used to have to
be original and have our own flare,

458
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:33.599
our own flavor who we are and
everybody nobody. And so I'm having

459
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:40.119
a hard time because in the beginning
before they were selling check marks right on

460
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:45.599
social media, they were always bouncing
me off because my name didn't match my

461
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.880
ID, right, But now they
want to sell me a check. But

462
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:53.039
now everybody has these checks because I'm
like, so, I'm like, I'm

463
00:31:53.079 --> 00:32:00.599
not buying a check just to prove
my exactly exactly. So I'm like,

464
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:07.400
so I'm gonna be the underground barbecue
chef so to speak, and make and

465
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.720
create my own recipes. And then
my boy Kyle over here, he's a

466
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:15.319
little bit upset because I keep calling
him out and he's like, well,

467
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:19.079
there's not barbecue because you know you
you you're not, You're being a chef

468
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.440
and blah blah blah. So give
me a little bit of your insight on

469
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:28.839
this whole internet scene. I mean, they are social media. I'll take

470
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:32.960
you a couple of steps. Right, I'm so flabbergasted by it. I

471
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:39.039
wrote a whole album called sound Bites
around it. You're making a whole album

472
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:43.200
about it, so you could check
that. But also, I go back

473
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:49.720
to you, just says Industry Rule
number four thousand DDV. Social media companies

474
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:52.680
are shady. Yes, yes,
yes, yes, yes, indeed,

475
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:57.640
indeed you just gotta flip that,
flip that for the new era. You

476
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.000
know, it's back to trial bro. All right, all right, that's

477
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:07.559
fine yo. All right, So
so let's let's talk about the induction to

478
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.160
the Hall of Fame. You're going
into the Hall of Fame, Barbecue hall

479
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:14.640
of Fame. Yeah, I'm inducted
into the Black Barbecue Hall of Fame.

480
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:20.839
I've been nominated into the American Royal
Hall of Fame twice. Yeah. Maybe

481
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:24.559
this year they still recognize you know
the baby yo. Look look, you

482
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:29.640
know you know who sits on that
seat right, our uncle, big big

483
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:34.359
Uncle calv Lexo, I know,
Uncle cav Man. That's the homie.

484
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:38.960
I love yo. So you know
we're all at the Royal Man, we

485
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:43.640
gotta we gotta catch up. If
you make it out there. Yeah,

486
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:47.559
well you tell them, tell them
to fix the thing, man, and

487
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:51.839
I'll pull up. I'll pull up. Can this year they fix the thing,

488
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.079
I'll pull up this year we have
there we go, there we go.

489
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:57.960
Nah. That's that's great, bro, that's great, you know.

490
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:02.920
And I know, look, coming
from New York and I'm sure coming from

491
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:08.599
Trinidad and then being in Edmund and
in Toronto, the inner cities, Bro,

492
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:12.880
we didn't have a whole lot,
you know. And I feel like

493
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:15.360
in the beginning because I heard you
speak on another podcast and I'm gonna shout

494
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.239
it out and I know Kyle and
my boy, Barret, boy's gonna get

495
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:23.199
a little blush right now. But
we were forced to do barbecue at the

496
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:27.960
beginning stages, right, These were
the scraps that was thrown to us,

497
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.039
and we had to dig a hole
in the ground and start this whole you

498
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:36.239
know, barbecue. So being able
to come back into this late and day

499
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:40.360
and age and then be recognized for
something that we kind of created on our

500
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:46.199
own is great, right because there's
bro I'm I'm a minority out there when

501
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:54.159
I'm competing. You know that,
right of course. But so that's that's

502
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:57.519
a good thing, man, And
that's why I keep doing what I do,

503
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.079
you know. And uh, I
just I just feel the whole barbecue

504
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:05.199
love from everybody, you know.
And it's the one competition that I tell

505
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:10.760
everybody that even though we're all competing
against each other, it doesn't matter.

506
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:14.920
We all want each other to do
our best. I mean there's been times

507
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.239
where I dropped my whole ribs on
the ground and somebody sayd hey, bro,

508
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:20.519
I got some more ribs. Hey
you get throw it on. You

509
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:24.480
still got everybody, you know,
Like what other competition you know, sport

510
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:29.400
like that is where everybody's going to
help the next person, you know.

511
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:34.480
And that's what I love about our
barbecue community. That's true. And most

512
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.920
of that barbecue community is like mad
love. You know. You have to

513
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:42.079
think about it like this, Right, You're sitting around a smoker for twelve

514
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:47.360
sixteen hours. All you could do
is talk and drink and that and that

515
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:51.440
and that. You know, you
get enough liquor and anybody that start talking,

516
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:57.960
all kinds find a kind of their
life. And and that's why we

517
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:01.119
came up with this show was because
of you know, don't drop the towns.

518
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:05.079
This is all the stuff that we
don't really talk about, you know,

519
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:07.280
on other podcasts, but we talk
about, you know, sitting behind

520
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:10.159
you know, a fire, sitting
in front of a fire, you're having

521
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:15.679
a couple of beers, you know, And there's nothing more primal than that,

522
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:19.599
you know, man man kinds supposed
to be invented fire about two million

523
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:27.639
years ago, and so we've been
having this ritual around fire for two million

524
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:31.039
years. It doesn't only feed us, it keeps us warm, It drives

525
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:36.719
our clothes, It nourishes the community, and it's done properly. It replenishes

526
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:39.639
the forest. Fire is a sacred
thing, you know what I mean.

527
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:45.039
So this is the we're carrying on
the legacy in a new way of something

528
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:50.840
that has been born from a two
million years ago. All right, So

529
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:53.199
very true with all that, now, Roger, the one question I have

530
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:58.400
though, so we're getting ready to
wrap up of you, where can people

531
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:02.679
sample the music? Where can people
follow you? How can we will see

532
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:07.119
the show and when's the new season
dropping for the show? Everything is at

533
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:14.559
Roger muking dot com or all of
my social media Facebook, the Twitter,

534
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.719
Instagram, TikTok is all at Roger
Mooking. So if you go there,

535
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:22.679
that'll be the portal for all the
music, all our the books, the

536
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:28.440
shows, whatever I'm up to,
whatever I'm bitching about, It's all there.

537
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:35.360
Dog. All right, Well,
congratulations on the induction into the Hall

538
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:37.440
of Fame. All that good stuff
coming your way, and hopefully fill in

539
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:42.599
Kyle, see you down the road
in the barbecue world. And don't worry

540
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:46.960
if you ever need any inspiration how
to wrap something in bacon, Kyle is

541
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:52.840
your man. If you ever look
at something you're like, wow, this

542
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:55.360
this Maybe I could wrap this in
bacon. He'd wrap it in bacon.

543
00:37:55.400 --> 00:38:07.840
Maybe you have a wrap you ever
a little person to make your duck and

544
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:16.840
wrapped in bacon. All right,
Roger, appreciate your brother. I apprecia.

545
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:21.960
All right, Well, thank you
to Roger for coming on and joining

546
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:24.280
us. Uh you know the one
that I took away from his story and

547
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:29.639
take away from everybody comes on these
podcast stories or are these celebrity chefs to

548
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:34.239
do it? People wonder why certain
people aren't getting People are famous on social

549
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:37.119
media, but they're not famous when
it comes to the TV world. It's

550
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:40.960
just social media. You can make
yourself famous no matter what you know.

551
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:44.760
With you we are, you buy
check marks, whatever. But I always

552
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:46.719
take away from everybody we've ever had
on who's ever been on the Food Network.

553
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:51.800
Their stories are that they start at
the very bottom and they have done

554
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:55.719
all aspects of cooking. They all
have an interesting story. It's always interesting

555
00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:59.920
to hear their different stories. I
mean to come from. Imagine being born

556
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:04.599
in Trinidad, Yeah, going to
Edmonton, then living in Toronto. Next.

557
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:07.159
See, you know you're a food
network start like who whatever thoughts?

558
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.199
So goes to show the hospital that
it takes to do that. So thank

559
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:14.639
you to him for coming on.
Uh, you guys are talking about the

560
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:17.119
American Royal coming up. That's not
gonna be here, it's gonna be here

561
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:21.239
soon. Yeah. Are you guys
ready? And how are you practicing for

562
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:24.280
that? I am home practicing.
I heard there's another film crew coming out.

563
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:28.360
Oh oh, but see, I
don't know if they're gonna want to

564
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:30.639
follow you not allowed? I don't
think so? Why not? Because I

565
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:34.679
can find my chicken. I was
gonna say, we saw what happened last

566
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.719
time. I wonder how many people
gonna throw a bacon grease in their in

567
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:40.320
their ribs. Oh, I'm already
getting dm Oh my mama used to do

568
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:44.000
that. I'm like, Yo,
your mom ain't do that till I did

569
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:46.400
that. Stop. See there we
go, Yo, stop stop. If

570
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:52.599
I see bag and grease, I'm
loading my trailer up with bacon grease.

571
00:39:53.159 --> 00:40:00.519
Bacon grease is gonna become the new
the new US play plans all over.

572
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:06.360
Look. Look, the the new
Rubs are gonna be showcase the royal Oh,

573
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:13.400
either be a big way hold big
go back. So they're gonna be

574
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.480
showcased there. What do you mean? That's all I'm using on my protein?

575
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:20.760
Really? But are they gonna be
released for sale there? Hopefully?

576
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.840
Hopefully? Oh, you're gonna have
a little filled the grill tense set up.

577
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:27.400
Now he's selling crap. You're gonna
have to go to the store and

578
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:30.760
get it, because I'm gonna have
my personals and I'm gonna tell you where

579
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:34.039
you could go online and order it. Look at this guy. Okay,

580
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:37.800
you can't even be an entrepreneur.
It might be better to have some to

581
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.000
sell right there? Tell you what
you pay for me. You put me

582
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:44.920
up in a five star hotel.
You find me. You got a nice

583
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:49.719
five star trailer for it, the
same trailer. No, but I'm not

584
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.599
staying there. I'm only cooking in
there. But YO, don't I can't

585
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:55.000
find him. I don't think he's
renting a trailer a nomore. You know,

586
00:40:55.480 --> 00:41:00.559
you know the hold on you.
You don't have a trailer. How

587
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:02.960
about trailer? He staying with you? Kyle? I have no room,

588
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:07.440
yo, Yo, where you putting
that big trailer. I'm not putting it

589
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.320
anywhere? Because I hired a dude
on RV Share. Yeah, he's bringing

590
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:13.559
it dropped. That's what I do. That's what I do all of the

591
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:16.079
time. But I don't see this
guy. This gets turned around that I

592
00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:21.119
now stole, yo, if trading. If my trailer isn't your camp,

593
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:28.960
I'm trailer. Yo. He stole
my RV guy trailer. And now he's

594
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:32.440
gonna put because hold on, because
you're not putting that big behind trailer you

595
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:37.519
had last year in that little space. You have paid for something, but

596
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:43.440
something by fifty something whatever, it's
thirty fifty, Okay. I want to

597
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:46.559
get back to real quick before we
jam out of here. So here's the

598
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:52.119
deal. It's avocado, taco and
two steaks, right, so you're gonna

599
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:54.559
do steak baking, rap steaks,
baking, rap tacos, and baker avocados

600
00:41:54.920 --> 00:42:00.039
with pork belly. So work bell. So my cookie demos starts an hour,

601
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:05.760
No starts forty five minutes before avocado
turning. Okay, okay, so

602
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.119
I want to compete in avocado too, So are you joining while you're doing

603
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:13.719
the That's what I'm thinking, bro, I'm thinking I'm gonna do that's actually

604
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:17.119
kind of cool. Time. I
think yours is right before taco turning.

605
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:22.840
Oh ta taro is gonna be So
I think whatever we demo, what I'm

606
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:28.480
doing anyways, I'm gonna demo something
with avocado, making, barbecue whatever,

607
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:30.559
wrapping and baking however you guys want
to do it. And then I'm gonna

608
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:32.920
feed that to the that's really cool. And then I'm gonna tell him all

609
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.159
right, so I'm really boxing this. They're gonna watch me box that's a

610
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:38.880
really cool. I'm gonna run this
upet. I think that of any of

611
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:42.719
the demos that you guys do,
I think that's one of the best things.

612
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:44.960
I think. That's awesome. That's
what I'm thinking, because the crowd

613
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:46.639
is gonna be like, yo,
so he's just cooking some you know bs,

614
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:50.320
blah blah blah, Like, no, this is actually what I'm actually

615
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.000
turning. That's a great idea.
I really like that nice chop though.

616
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.440
You know what I'm gonna steal.
I'm watch You're gonna steal his cooking ideas

617
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:58.559
I'm giving him. I'm just telling
him, like, hey, you should

618
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:00.159
probably do that if you're not on
time. I'm not. I'm not taking

619
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:04.320
the method. I'm gonna take one
of your recipes. I am going to

620
00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:08.039
actually wrap something in bacon wings.
I don't know. No, you can't

621
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:13.159
wrap a wing and bacon for a
turn in check my I gotta I gotta

622
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:15.360
wrap something in bacon. Well,
you're right before the so I'm gonna go

623
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:20.119
through your Instagram and see what I
could find and I'm gonna do a baker

624
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:24.159
wrap tweaky. But it's a joking, no idea, because he'll do that

625
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:30.920
next week. He'll be on there. This is something I'm Baker did probably

626
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:36.000
like damn, I'm telling you,
I'll wrap everything, bro. I mean

627
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:39.400
what you wrap everything. What I'm
what I'm telling you is you have we

628
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:44.760
we we are obligated to forty five
minutes on stage forty five. Let you

629
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:47.920
you're not gonna get forty five.
You're gonna get a hot fifteen. Okay,

630
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:51.519
Well I'm gonna be up there forty
five because I have to do an

631
00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:54.360
avocado turning. Whether there's a crowd
there or not, I'm gonna do my

632
00:43:54.440 --> 00:44:00.440
avocado turning on stage in front of
everybody and turn the sucker. So all

633
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:02.599
right, that's what you're planning,
is not? I have a question.

634
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:07.599
I'm I mean to ask both you
guys. So you have your your behind

635
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:13.840
barbecue competition team and you have Phil
the g Phil Grill. What was the

636
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:16.960
first trophy that your team ever got? I don't want to talk about this.

637
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:28.920
My my my first trophy was third
place chicken and fourth place pork or

638
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:31.280
sixth place pork. And it was
out of one hundred and twenty five.

639
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:36.039
And where was that competition? Lake
habits. So I'm just saying, like

640
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:38.840
you compete for trophies, is that
troph you have a special place? No?

641
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:44.639
No, really, why it broke? I don't know it was.

642
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:46.159
I would figure that would have been
a special place for you. No,

643
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:51.079
I'm not really big on trophies like
that. I don't but trophies or trophies,

644
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:53.280
I don't even have you always remember
the first trophy. I think I

645
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:57.920
do have a part of it.
I think, so I need to grill.

646
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:00.280
I wasn't one of them. I
was the last one to win a

647
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:06.719
trophy on your behind barbecue. How
you're the only one on the team exactly

648
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:13.440
beat itself. My dad and I
that's my dad and I are cooking when

649
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:17.280
we first started, right and we
got seventh place chicken at the Scottsdale.

650
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:22.760
The first contest, no trophies,
we didn't get a trophy, and I

651
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:23.880
was kind of pissed about that's,
yeah, what's the damn trup? No

652
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:29.280
trophy? Second contest, they had
a dessert contest, and I don't bake.

653
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:31.119
I don't know what. I ain't
doing that. And so I told

654
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:34.679
my sister. I was like,
Yo, can you come do the dessert

655
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.320
contest? Okay, She's like,
yeah, yeah, whatever, I'm gonna

656
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:42.679
do this no bake cheesecake thing.
Whoam? She takes first place? Wait,

657
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:45.519
your sister got the first trophy for
your team. I haven't even seen

658
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:52.880
your sister out at a barbecue and
first trophy and took the trophy. So

659
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:57.039
I mean so that was that?
Is that? Like? Okay? So

660
00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:00.119
we go to two, which is
Williams. Okay, Williams, there's something

661
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:02.880
I don't get one call at all? Barbecue. No, did your brother

662
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:06.960
get it? No? My dad
wins first place burger, he gets a

663
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:12.199
trophy. Wow, I think this
is my first you know what this should

664
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:15.960
be? Right here? You're behind
barbecue Asterix, Yes, Astrick below.

665
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:23.760
My sister and father get trophies.
I ride their coaches. Really wow.

666
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:28.920
Then my personal first trophy was first
place ribs. Okay, where was that?

667
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:30.840
But I still have that. I
think that was in Mesa, Mesa.

668
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:36.480
Mason, Yeah, Tommy Duncan,
Yo, we got a competitions in

669
00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:42.079
Arizona coming away. Yeah we got
Yeah. So there's a case of BS

670
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:47.280
contest and the BCS contest the same
damn weekend in November ones in Mesa and

671
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:52.400
the BC he said, it's that
weekend, that NASCAR weekend, Yeah,

672
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.360
November fourth, yea Nascar. Sorry, So so you're going up, I

673
00:46:55.480 --> 00:47:00.480
have to bro it's my yard and
the k CBS is here in mesa,

674
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:04.280
when are you going to any of
here's my things, Like, why can't

675
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:07.719
we we don't get zero contests here
in Arizona. Why can't we just work

676
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.199
something out where it's like, hey, bro, you do this weekend,

677
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:14.039
I'll do that weekend. Like how
about that? That way we all work

678
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:15.760
together, I would separate is that
I can at least come to one of

679
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:20.920
these, but that scar weken not
gonna go. Uh yeah, you're like,

680
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:22.960
bro, you know what you're starting
to be. I'm like the un

681
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:27.000
you know, make fun of me, about the damn unicorn that keeps dodging

682
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:30.960
me, doesn't want to come on
anyways. You're the unicorn of barbecue I

683
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:34.119
am. Because everybody's like, yo, where's Bryl? And I was like,

684
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:37.960
Bro, you wouldn't even recognize him
if you seen him coming there.

685
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.159
Cogny you can. That's what nobody
will know. We go, we go

686
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:45.800
pick up somebody from home depot and
say that's Barrel. Break up to the

687
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:47.119
next competition. I have a story. I have a story about that.

688
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:51.639
I'm a story about that. I
put a T shirt on be like,

689
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:58.920
yo, this is I'm Barrel.
I have an air. I have an

690
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:00.719
off fair story. To take you
guys about something about that. All right,

691
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:05.159
so let's wrap this up. We
learned a lot of things in this

692
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:08.800
episode. We learned that fills all
in his feelings. So Kyle, I'm

693
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:13.000
over it. Make sure that next
time you steal want of fills your recipes,

694
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.920
you at least tag him video for
him. I think just dedicate all

695
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:22.480
the memories come back. He'll get
mad about that. We learned about that

696
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.679
I'll do something wrong. Also,
we were very open, honest, we

697
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:30.039
do feud amongst the three of us
about things, and that I barrel him

698
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:34.639
quite the inscator. It just pokey. It's just pokey feel I was like

699
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.320
corded to six in the morning.
I was on my I was on my

700
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:39.599
flight. I was on my fight
and I was bored and I was like,

701
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:44.000
oh, I'm just with Jabs here
And I was like thirty thousand feet

702
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:45.519
in the air, just jabbing.
It was fun. It made that four

703
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:51.519
hour flight fly just fil just flying
off the top rope like I was the

704
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:53.280
dude who came out of the back
of the w W match hit him with

705
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:57.440
a chair and then it disappeared.
It was so much fun. I loved

706
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:00.679
it. We learned about that I
was thinking to our guests Roger for coming

707
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:06.199
on check out his album, his
book, his TV shows that dude is

708
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:12.000
a cornucopia of goodness right there.
Yes, yes, And we also learned

709
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:15.639
that Kyle's first trophy was won by
his dad and the sister. Yeah,

710
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:17.880
Megan good, I feel like you
should put that on your on your should

711
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:21.440
Yeah, he's be included on one
year. I know it should be in

712
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:25.880
his front window at the Birds.
I think it should be on the should

713
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:30.800
be on it, should be on
the should be on your label for your

714
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:37.840
seasonings competition winning seasonings by my dad
and sister. Exactly crazy. I love

715
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:40.320
it. Well, we appreciate you
for join us. Be back next week

716
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:45.800
with another episode and hopefully in the
next week we don't have another civil war.

717
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:49.280
That might be our last one for
a little bit, right Why we

718
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.599
we next the America Royal Week Like
I'm out of here on two? Oh

719
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:57.440
wait, so hold on, do
you talk about this? Okay, you

720
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.280
have life come up? He gives
you grief. I know, I know,

721
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:02.480
and he'll be like, man,
I got work, I got this,

722
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:05.519
I got I got a surgery I
got I'll be like, yo,

723
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:07.280
I got an open heart. Surgery. Oh, you ain't gonna be at

724
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:14.039
the podcast exactly, so har are
you work nineteen hours? I'm gonna recording

725
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:17.119
of the podcast. Kyle, I
got American Royal Week. I'm gonna take

726
00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:22.559
off three weeks or take off a
month, So Kyle, get ready for

727
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:28.000
a competition. I'm thinking, goodness
gracious, all right,

