1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:45,399 Two. Wellcome everybody, here we go. It is that time again, 2 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,920 Matt Connerton unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H 3 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,799 ninety five point three FM in glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. A little 4 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,359 humid out there, but it is glorious. It's a bright sunny day. 5 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,640 Although now that I'm looking this, our clouds moving in. But maybe we'll 6 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,200 get a quick storm. Who knows, who knows. But yes, we 7 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:07,599 are of course at the studios of WMH ninety five point three and of course 8 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,519 on Comcast ninety seven if you are in Manchester, and hello to all of 9 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:15,560 our online listeners across the nation and around the globe. You can go to 10 00:01:15,599 --> 00:01:19,280 my website Matt Connerton dot com for all your live streaming options, social media 11 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,680 links, contact info, show archives, etcetera, etcetera. Today is Friday, 12 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,560 June twenty three, twenty twenty three. Friday is my favorite day of 13 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,159 the week here at WMNH. It's my long day because I get to do 14 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:34,760 double duty and I love it. Here of course until six pm for this 15 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,680 show, and then I'm back tonight from eight to eleven pm for Retro Spectrum 16 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,920 Radio with Paul ec Of course I'm one of Paul's co hosts on that show 17 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:47,799 along with DJ Steve and Mike from Queen City Cabinetry, and of course Queen 18 00:01:47,879 --> 00:01:52,159 City Cabinetry being one of our great sponsors here at WMNH, but also Mike 19 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,959 joins us from Queen City Cabinetry Friday nights for Retrospectrum Radio. So we have 20 00:01:56,959 --> 00:02:00,159 a great time. And this week's show I'm excited about it is part two 21 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:07,639 of Original Demos of Popular Songs, where Paul will be featuring the original demo 22 00:02:07,759 --> 00:02:13,599 versions of some of the songs that you've probably heard many times over the course 23 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,680 of your lifetime, but have you heard the original version that was demo recording 24 00:02:17,719 --> 00:02:23,639 in its infancy if you will, in its development, and so tonight is 25 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,960 part two of that. I really loved last week's last week's show. I 26 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,479 was looking forward to it and it did not let me down. Again. 27 00:02:30,479 --> 00:02:34,479 If you were listening to the last week's show, whether live or if you 28 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:39,800 happen to catch the replay or listen to the podcast, I think everybody in 29 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:45,520 the room was an agreement about the original demo version of Girls on Film by 30 00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:51,240 Duran. Duran just absolutely stupendous. Does anyone say that word anymore? I 31 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,039 can't remember the last time I actually heard somebody used the word stupendous, but 32 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,960 I will use it here. I think it is an apt superlative that I've 33 00:02:58,159 --> 00:03:00,280 presented. It's just so good. The the demo version, it had a 34 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:05,000 lot of guitar in it, which of course got did not make it into 35 00:03:05,039 --> 00:03:07,800 the final mix in the studio. But yeah, just really cool. So 36 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:13,560 I'm looking forward tonight. The other really interesting thing that just kind of stands 37 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,400 out in my mind about last week's show was Paul also played And of course 38 00:03:16,439 --> 00:03:21,439 this I had already heard as a as a Kiss fan, the original demo 39 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,319 version of the Kiss song God of Thunder, and on the demo version because 40 00:03:25,319 --> 00:03:30,319 it was actually written by Paul Stanley, even though Gene Simmons is the one 41 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:34,719 who sings the song and they still do that in their live set today. 42 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:40,000 But but on the original demo version, it's faster and it's Paul Stanley singing 43 00:03:40,039 --> 00:03:45,680 it, and it's just it's actually kind of funny. It might not be 44 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,240 funny if you don't know the original, or if you're just not a Kiss 45 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,599 fan, but if you know the original and then you hear the Paul Stanley 46 00:03:51,639 --> 00:03:55,039 demo. It's pretty funny. We were we were having a good hearty chuckle 47 00:03:55,080 --> 00:04:00,479 over it. Anyway, I have no idea what the demos are that Paul 48 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,879 plans to feature tonight, but I very very much look forward to to tonight's 49 00:04:03,919 --> 00:04:08,599 program, and I assume Granted state of Mind is still going to be running 50 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:14,000 immediately after this show. I did hear on the replay of the Morning Show, 51 00:04:14,039 --> 00:04:16,040 of course, the Morning Show with Peter White, which is weekdays from 52 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:19,839 seven to nine am here at WMNH with a replay from two to four pm. 53 00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:24,600 Right before this program, I heard Peter mentioning that Granted State of Mind 54 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:30,560 is actually moving to Thursdays at nine pm. It's been a well, it's 55 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,680 been Fridays at six pm for as long as I've been here, but apparently 56 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:38,040 it is moving to a new, a new day and time. Check your 57 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,319 local listings. But I assume there's still I assume there's still an episode airing 58 00:04:42,319 --> 00:04:46,879 tonight immediately after this program. So of course, during the warm half of 59 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,279 the year, Rob as a Veto and PAULI Stone they record all the shows 60 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:56,920 out at Pembroke City Limits and then they do a great job. I assume 61 00:04:56,959 --> 00:05:00,600 they'll be once the weather gets cold again, they'll will be back in the 62 00:05:00,639 --> 00:05:05,199 studio, but now on Thursday nights apparently, So congratulations to them. And 63 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,720 let's see what else is going on. Oh, just a couple other quick 64 00:05:08,759 --> 00:05:12,199 things to our amazing sponsor, the Hopknot right across the street at one thousand 65 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,879 Elm Street. They have an event going on tonight tonight, and I do 66 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:20,240 enjoy saying this. I think it's fun. 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And uh, 107 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,399 speaking of Rob as a veto, he's got a band I forget who 108 00:08:11,439 --> 00:08:15,759 it is, but he's got somebody performing tonight, so I assume they're going 109 00:08:15,839 --> 00:08:18,839 to be recording Granted State of Mind tonight at Pembroke City Limits, So if 110 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:22,439 you're up up that way, you can stop in there check it out. 111 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:24,720 So lots going on, always, always lots going on. And I'm sure 112 00:08:24,759 --> 00:08:28,959 there's many more things I could mention. Oh, actually, here's another thing 113 00:08:28,959 --> 00:08:31,120 I could mention. Trudy from The Hop Knot will be here with us on 114 00:08:31,159 --> 00:08:33,919 Monday. She hasn't been on the show in a long time, so that 115 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,360 will be that will be very very cool. We've got a lot to get 116 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,840 to today. I don't have any guests booked, but we have a lot 117 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:45,519 to get to. There's a lot that I want to cover today, so 118 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,919 that that kind of works out. Jenny's been doing a great job with the 119 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,240 booking, so most days we have guests. We have guests almost every day, 120 00:08:52,279 --> 00:08:54,639 but it is nice to have a day here and there where we don't 121 00:08:54,639 --> 00:08:56,399 have any guests and I can kind of get up, get caught up with 122 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:01,120 all of these news stories that have been sort of piling up during the week 123 00:09:01,159 --> 00:09:05,000 that we just haven't had time to get to. But if you'd like to 124 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,440 join us six zo three two five zero six ZO seven, the studio line 125 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:11,200 is open six zoo three two five zero six ZOO seven. You can also 126 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:16,159 text me at six one seven nine one seven four four seven six. I'm 127 00:09:16,159 --> 00:09:20,600 on social media at Matt Connerton. You can email me Matt at Matt Connerton 128 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,799 dot com. And of course you can interact Undo Pine in the Facebook live 129 00:09:24,879 --> 00:09:26,759 chat and we will say hello to everybody in there in just a moment. 130 00:09:26,919 --> 00:09:31,360 But the best thing to do so that we can hear and enjoy your dulcet 131 00:09:31,399 --> 00:09:35,159 tones is to give us a call at six three two five six zero seven. 132 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,919 But I do want to take a moment say hello everybody in the Facebook 133 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,799 live chat. Mike from Queen City Cabinetry is in the chat room and says 134 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:48,120 happy Friday, everyone, A happy Friday. Mike Scott Robinson in the chat 135 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,399 room says good afternoon, my fellow Connerton Nights. I always thought that the 136 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,240 State rep elect was a little hanky. After today, I guess we were 137 00:09:56,279 --> 00:10:01,840 all right about the person. Yes and st is speaking in code because the 138 00:10:01,919 --> 00:10:09,600 particular individual who is in yet again for the I don't know how many times 139 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:15,279 it is now they are in legal trouble, and the legal jeopardy in this 140 00:10:15,399 --> 00:10:20,120 particular instance is on a scale that I don't think we'll be hearing from that 141 00:10:20,159 --> 00:10:24,919 person for a while. But it's someone we don't for reasons that. You 142 00:10:24,919 --> 00:10:28,039 know, if you're a long time listener, you might have an idea, 143 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,720 but we don't talk about this individual on the show anymore. So I'm not 144 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,519 going to mention their name. But but if you are local in the area 145 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,440 and you pay attention, you can go to WMUAR dot com, for example 146 00:10:37,759 --> 00:10:43,600 channel nine, look at the news and you'll immediately see reference to what I'm 147 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:48,279 referring to and the particular individual and a partner of that individual who are in 148 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:54,000 terrible trouble for they are alleged to have done something really disgusting and disturbing. 149 00:10:54,600 --> 00:11:00,320 And I will leave that at that. We won't go any further with it. 150 00:11:00,399 --> 00:11:05,120 But but yeah, that's what's going on. I had last night when 151 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:11,080 the news broke, when Tony Shanella broke the news on Patch and Nashua, 152 00:11:11,159 --> 00:11:13,840 I had multiple people send me the story, like you know, Matt, 153 00:11:13,919 --> 00:11:18,000 Look who's in trouble? Uh? Pat Mills from the bonfire. We'll give 154 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,000 the bonfire a plug, great place. Pat was the first one on Facebook 155 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,120 to message me a link to the story, and then uh, and then 156 00:11:26,159 --> 00:11:28,639 several other people did as well. And it's like, yep, yep, 157 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:35,759 I'm I uh yeah, I don't want to I don't want to say exactly 158 00:11:35,759 --> 00:11:41,879 what I'm thinking, but you will just say. Um, let's just say 159 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,559 I I had a feeling we'd see this person's name in the news again, 160 00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:50,320 because it always, it always happens, and every time it's something a little 161 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:58,919 bit worse than the previous time. But anyway, best of luck. Isaac 162 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:01,600 Banks joins us in the Facebook live chat, of course, all the way 163 00:12:01,639 --> 00:12:07,159 from Greensboro, North Carolina. Isaacs says, good afternoon, hashtag Matt. 164 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:15,960 Today is my mom's birthday. Her name is SHELITHA Banks from Greensboro, North 165 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,960 Carolina. She's aged seventy. Good afternoon, hashtag Jenny. Well, you 166 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,559 know I saw on a coffee mug once at life begins at seventy. I'm 167 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,559 a little skeptical about that, but you know, it's good to be positive 168 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:33,519 and optimistic. Scott Robinson said in the chat room. If you don't know 169 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:39,000 what I'm referring to, look up wmure about the childcare establishment. Yeah. 170 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,399 Yeah, it's pretty bad, pretty bad. Isaac Banks says N Saturn. 171 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:48,679 We'll be watching the retro Spectrum Radio with PAULI c on Facebook Live. Excellent, 172 00:12:48,759 --> 00:12:52,559 excellent. We do love to see n. Saturn in there. Eric 173 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,720 Street joins us in the chat room and says, happy Friday. Just saw 174 00:12:54,759 --> 00:13:01,840 that mister Crabs article. Yes, just incredible, isn't it? All right? 175 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,240 Let me give the studio line again, and then I want to get 176 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:11,080 into something six three two five six seven six zo three two five six seven, 177 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:13,440 Um, something I've been wanting to get to on the program. And 178 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:22,840 again it's it's just it's been busy. But um, this uh ongoing story 179 00:13:24,799 --> 00:13:28,159 involving the Supreme Court. But in getting into this about the Supreme Court, 180 00:13:28,279 --> 00:13:33,600 and I have kind of an unpopular I don't want to say, an unpopular 181 00:13:33,639 --> 00:13:37,519 opinion necessarily. Oh, hello to Tony Petrello, who's in the Facebook live 182 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,600 chat and says, good afternoon, Matt, Good afternoon, Tony. Nice 183 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,200 to see you in there. Oh and also Texas Mike just joined us as 184 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:48,080 well. And says good afternoon. Yeehah, Texas Mike. Um, I 185 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,240 want to talk a little bit about the Supreme Court. But this doesn't relay 186 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:58,360 or relate I should say directly to I know right now there's a lot of 187 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,080 talk in the media about it's one year. Hard to believe it's been a 188 00:14:01,159 --> 00:14:05,759 year. Uh, it's um the one year anniversary of the overturning of Roe 189 00:14:05,799 --> 00:14:11,600 v. Wade and the Dab's decision. But that's that's not what I want 190 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,120 to focus on with this. But the thing that I'm going to say that's 191 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:20,080 a little unpopular is and I want to get I'd really like to get some 192 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,240 listener feedback on this, because it's just something you don't hear. I have 193 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:30,440 a perspective on this that you just don't really hear in mainstream media. But 194 00:14:30,679 --> 00:14:33,240 I have a suspicion I can't be the only one who has had this particular 195 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:37,399 thought regarding the Supreme Court, even though I don't hear anyone else actually saying 196 00:14:37,399 --> 00:14:41,039 what I'm what I'm going to say in a moment. But but just to 197 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:46,080 kind of get us going in the right direction and then we'll we'll get into 198 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,320 it. Um, there's a story Usnews dot Com as a story up pressure 199 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:56,039 mounts on Chief Justice John Roberts to adopt a code of ethics. A key 200 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:01,639 senator with oversight of the Judiciary Committee has called for ethics reform after he had 201 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:07,279 another bombshell report questioning the Justice's ability to self police. So, if you 202 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:15,480 haven't been following this, what this is about is and it it really started. 203 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:20,159 Uh, she's must have been a couple of months ago. Now, 204 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:26,279 Apparently Justice Clarence Thomas h you know, he goes on trips and eats at 205 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,679 fancy restaurants and so forth, on the dime of Harlan Crowe, who is 206 00:15:30,679 --> 00:15:35,799 a billionaire Republican donor, and so forth. And uh and wasn't you know, 207 00:15:35,919 --> 00:15:39,919 wasn't declaring that, you know, that he was accepting these lavish trips 208 00:15:39,919 --> 00:15:46,720 and so forth. And then another story just broke that m. Samuel Alito 209 00:15:46,799 --> 00:15:56,320 had been doing something similar. And the Supreme Court is really pretty autonomous in 210 00:15:56,399 --> 00:16:00,039 terms of ethics. Now, the other two branches of govern because obviously we 211 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:06,679 have three branches, the executive, the legislative, and the judicial executive of 212 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,919 course being the Presidency, and the legislative being Congress, and the judicial branch, 213 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:15,320 which is Supreme Court. But of the three branches, the Supreme Court 214 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:22,919 enjoys tremendous autonomy. The other two branches don't really make rules for the Supreme 215 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,240 Court. They confirm justices who then get a lifetime appointment who cannot be removed 216 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:30,919 unless impeached. I think there is one example in American history of a Supreme 217 00:16:30,919 --> 00:16:36,200 Court justice being impeached. I think I'm a little sketchy on the details of 218 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:37,600 that, but and not recently, of course, not in any of our 219 00:16:37,639 --> 00:16:42,000 lifetimes, long time ago. But I'm not sure if they were actually impeached, 220 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,399 or if they were going to be impeached and they resigned. I forget 221 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:51,799 now I should look that up. But so the Supreme Court enjoys tremendous autonomy, 222 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,759 and they have to kind of self police, or in theory, they 223 00:16:53,759 --> 00:16:59,759 would have to self police if there were if they were forced to, which 224 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:03,399 they or not. So they're really kind of on their own. So, 225 00:17:03,359 --> 00:17:07,519 you know, if someone wants to say, you're a Supreme Court justice and 226 00:17:07,759 --> 00:17:15,920 you want to accept lavish trips and other kinds of social events, if you 227 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:21,519 want to accept those gifts or those opportunities, oh hello to j fed in 228 00:17:21,519 --> 00:17:25,559 the chat room, if you want to accept that, even even if you 229 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:30,240 might be presiding over a case that in some ways might have an effect over 230 00:17:30,279 --> 00:17:37,119 the billionaire who's spending all this money on you or or or maybe you might 231 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,880 even as I believe is in the case of Justice Samuel Alito, and we 232 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,519 might look at look at that a little bit more closely, because he sort 233 00:17:45,559 --> 00:17:48,519 of did a pre bottle to this pro publica breaking the story. It's very 234 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:52,480 it's actually pretty strange, but I guess he kind of panicked and wanted to 235 00:17:52,519 --> 00:18:00,480 get out ahead of it. But I think in his case he was he 236 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:07,039 had to rule on a case that directly involved, or at least affected in 237 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:12,079 some some direct manner. Uh, the billionaire who was paying for him to 238 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:17,519 do to do, go wherever, go on trips, go on vacations, 239 00:18:17,559 --> 00:18:21,640 on a private jet, whatever it is. UM apparently if you go back 240 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:29,839 to um antonin Scalia, who died while I think on a on a hunting 241 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:34,799 trip or a golf expedition or something. Uh, he died while on vacation. 242 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:41,720 But with with one of these billionaires who UM spends money to, you 243 00:18:41,759 --> 00:18:45,319 know, I mean, let's be honest, why if if you're going to 244 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,680 if you're a billionaire and you're going to uh, spend a lot of money 245 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:56,359 on somebody like a Supreme Court justice or any other type of politician. And 246 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:02,000 by the way, yes I said that intentionally, any other type of politician. 247 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,319 So you're not supposed to say that. There's certain things that in polite 248 00:19:04,319 --> 00:19:08,599 company. And in this case, when I say polite company, what I 249 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:14,400 really mean is when you're having a political discussion, you're not supposed to refer 250 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,000 to Supreme Court justices as politicians. There, Supreme Court justices, they're above 251 00:19:18,079 --> 00:19:22,880 politics. Right. I'll have something to say about that, and it's something 252 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,640 that you know, people don't like to don't like to hear. But we'll 253 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:32,599 come back to that. But if you're if you're spending money on a politician, 254 00:19:33,599 --> 00:19:38,400 whether they be a president or a senator or a congressman or a Supreme 255 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:45,440 Court justice, you're not doing it because you want to be kind and generous. 256 00:19:45,839 --> 00:19:49,240 You're not doing it because you want to have a friend who wears a 257 00:19:49,279 --> 00:19:56,160 black robe and you think that'll be really cool. You're doing it because you 258 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,640 want something. Oh hello to a Melanie A law liberty from the grace State 259 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,599 of Vermont, who joins us in the chat. You're doing it because you 260 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,279 want something. It's a business expense, it is the cost of doing business, 261 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,400 and it appeals to well. It works for a couple of reasons. 262 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:17,839 One is I almost hate to almost hate to say it, because it's such 263 00:20:17,839 --> 00:20:22,880 an old and somewhat tired cliche. But the reason it withstands the test of 264 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,119 time it is repeated so much, is because it is so incredibly true. 265 00:20:27,319 --> 00:20:33,480 Is that absolute power corrupts absolutely And but the other thing is so, you 266 00:20:33,519 --> 00:20:37,160 know, so regardless of what someone's position is, you know, it's it's 267 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,559 easy to influence people by buying them stuff. But then again, it's easy 268 00:20:41,599 --> 00:20:45,400 to do that anyway, right, even if you're not a billionaire, and 269 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,680 even if you're not dealing with a Supreme Court justice or a senator or a 270 00:20:48,759 --> 00:20:52,920 congressman or a president or a presidential candidate or whomever. You know, if 271 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,599 you if you spend money on people, they tend to like you more. 272 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,440 If you do favors for people, they tend to like you more. And 273 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,880 that's a way that you can gain influence with people. There's a book Dale 274 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:10,400 Carnegie, how to Win friends and influence people. This it's human nature. 275 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:21,279 It doesn't only apply to the elite spending money on well the elite. While 276 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:26,440 this is all going on, what I see and I hear in the media, 277 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:32,119 there's a lot of pearl clutching about, well, how could this be? 278 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:41,160 Something has to be done because there's no one too. There's no code 279 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:48,319 of ethics there there isn't There are some rules apparently about what these justices are 280 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:55,240 supposed to disclose in terms of what is spent on them. There's rules, 281 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,599 but apparently there's no laws. You know, there's guidelines, but uh, 282 00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:04,200 but nothing firm. Uh, you know, and they can be selective about 283 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,680 it, like I think in the in the case of Clarence Thomas, I 284 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:14,119 was reading about there was there was something he disclosed because someone had bought him 285 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,079 a gift or something, and and he felt that, Um, he thought 286 00:22:18,079 --> 00:22:19,640 it would look bad if he didn't disclose it. So he disclosed it. 287 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,759 But then, um, and it was something there was only a few thousand 288 00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:26,640 dollars, but but he felt it. You know, it would be the 289 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,960 appropriate thing would be to disclose that. But then when Harlan Crow comes along 290 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:38,480 and spends uh exponentially more money on vacations, and rides on a private jet 291 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:45,599 for Justice Thomas. Apparently he felt no, yeah, no no qualms or 292 00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:49,279 compunctions about that. I guess he must have thought, well, he's he's 293 00:22:49,319 --> 00:22:52,319 not trying to get something from him, he's just being a nice guy. 294 00:22:53,599 --> 00:23:03,200 Um. But because we know that absolute power corrupts absolutely, I don't know 295 00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:12,960 how it would even be possible to be in that position and not be for 296 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,720 sale to some extent, right, Scott Robinson in the chat says, if 297 00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:23,920 anyone wants to give me some cash, my vote can be bought. Now. 298 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,680 I don't want anyone to misunderstand what I'm saying here when I say, 299 00:23:27,279 --> 00:23:32,079 well, if you're in that position and you have so much autonomy, because 300 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:37,680 again, the judicial branch as much more autonomy than the legislative or the executive 301 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,640 branches. I mean, those branches have you know, they have laws, 302 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:47,960 and you know there are ethics laws and campaign finance laws, and there's of 303 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,480 course a million ways around all of these laws, and they are circumvented all 304 00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:56,559 the time, but there are laws in place. But when you're a Supreme 305 00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:59,799 Court justice, you really, you know, you're on your own. You 306 00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:04,839 get to decide for yourself what you think is worth disclosing, or you know, 307 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:10,240 if you want to just be willfully obtuse and say, I don't know 308 00:24:10,279 --> 00:24:15,200 why this billionaire is spending all this money on me. I guess he's just 309 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,319 a nice guy wants me to be his friend. I'm flattered. You know. 310 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,440 You can do that. You have the freedom to do that. There's 311 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,759 no one to tell you you can't. Now the thing that, again, 312 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:30,680 I'm not I'm not excusing any of that, even though I do believe there's 313 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,359 a high degree of just basic human nature involved here. I don't want anyone 314 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:40,160 to misunderstand. But the thing that I would say is, and this is 315 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,039 the part that's kind of unpopular that you don't hear people in mainstream media say. 316 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,880 The reason part of why people are so upset and so shocked by all 317 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:55,519 of this is because we are taught in this country from a young age. 318 00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:56,839 When you first learn when you're a kid. Think about when you were a 319 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:03,440 kid and you first are learning about civics in school, and you're learning about 320 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:11,680 the three branches of government, and you learn about the Supreme Court, and 321 00:25:11,839 --> 00:25:22,319 we are taught that the Supreme Court these are lifetime appointments and the Supreme Court 322 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:27,000 is above it all. Not above the law, certainly. I mean they 323 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:33,279 rule on the law. But but they're above politics. You know. Now, 324 00:25:33,519 --> 00:25:37,240 the legislative branch and the executive branch, those are elected. Those people 325 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:42,160 are elected. They are accountable directly to the voters. But the Supreme Court, 326 00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:45,559 oh my goodness, the judicial branch of the Supreme Court, it's it's, 327 00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:51,599 it's it's. It's on this pedestal. And they are just above it 328 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:56,079 all. And that's why they're lifetime appointments. And they go and they do 329 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,799 their job, and and uh, you just you have to trust them. 330 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,279 That's why there's no code of ethics. They don't need a code of ethics. 331 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,960 They're above it all. They're beyond politics after all. How it's not 332 00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:14,680 like you can bribe them, right, you can bribe a senator, you 333 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,839 can bribe a candidate. How would you bribe a Supreme Court justice. They're 334 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,279 already in the job and it's a lifetime appointment. They don't need ethics. 335 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:30,799 They're above it all. We're sort of taught that that that they're on that 336 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:37,160 pedestal, that they're in their own sort of category, and they are exalted. 337 00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:41,559 And I have to tell you, and this is the part that's going 338 00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:48,000 to be a little unpopular but for whatever reason. And I'd be curiously get 339 00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:51,079 some feedback if there's anyone else who feels the way that I do, because 340 00:26:51,079 --> 00:26:53,559 the narrative in the media right now is, well, Chief Justice Sean Roberts 341 00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:56,759 has to do something because apparently there are some problems. But it's but we're 342 00:26:56,759 --> 00:27:00,880 also shocked that there's problems because who would ever expect who would ever expect this 343 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:06,599 kind of thing? Who would ever expect Harlan Crowe spending all this money on 344 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,079 Clarence Thomas. You would never you would never even expect that. Right, 345 00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:15,240 it's the Supreme Court. Listen, this whole idea of the Supreme Court being 346 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:18,119 on that pedestal, I can honestly say, and I became I always say 347 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:25,599 I became interested in politics at an unhealthily young age. I have not, 348 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:32,279 for a day in my life, ever bought into that idea. I have 349 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,279 always looked at the three branches of government. You know, we have three 350 00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:40,119 coequal branches, as we're taught, right, I've always looked at all three 351 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,640 of those branches as being political. Not well, you have two branches that 352 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,599 are highly political because you have people elected to those branches, and then you 353 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:56,440 have this other branch that is in its own world right and and and it's 354 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,400 it's it's on a pedestal. I've never bought into that. I have always 355 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:07,279 looked at the three branches as being absolutely political. And I've always looked at 356 00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:12,920 Supreme Court justices as being politicians, just like senators, just like congressmen, 357 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,559 just like the president, just like the vice president, just like the mayor 358 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,400 in your city, just like anybody. Just like your local sheriff who you 359 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,799 elect. If you some places, the sheriff is appointed, some elected, 360 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,759 Pick any example you want. I have never, for a day in my 361 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:36,960 life, viewed Supreme Court justices as any different. I get it, they're 362 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,640 not elected. They're appointed, but they're still voted on by a committee. 363 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,359 And they don't have to get reelected because they're not elected to begin with. 364 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,319 It's a lifetime appointment. So there are differences, obviously, but they're still 365 00:28:52,400 --> 00:29:00,680 politicians. Why do you think we have liberal justices and conservative justices. Look 366 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,960 at the process they have to go through to get onto the Supreme Court, 367 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,559 once they've been nominated, the process they have to go through to be confirmed. 368 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:18,519 It's extraordinarily politicized. Of course it is, because it's all political. 369 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:26,039 I was agast. Now, again, this is not about the Dobb's decision 370 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,759 overturning Roe v. Wade, but I'm going to bring that in as an 371 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:36,079 example of something that, again, the narrative in the media is so far 372 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,839 removed from how I've ever looked at this. It's actually bizarre to me, 373 00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:42,720 at least in the mainstream media. I'm sure somewhere on some podcast somewhere that 374 00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:48,319 somebody's saying all the same things I'm saying. But in the mainstream media, 375 00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:52,200 when Roe v. Wade was overturned, I heard a lot of things about 376 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,240 how well the Supreme Court. You know, yes, you have judges who 377 00:29:57,279 --> 00:30:00,160 you know are going to rule one way or the other, but it's become 378 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,960 totally politicized. Now. I actually heard, I don't remember who it was, 379 00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:08,680 I heard a political analyst on CNN at the time actually say, well, 380 00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:11,559 for the first time, for the first time in our history, we 381 00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:17,519 have instead of judges wearing black robes, it's like we have judges wearing some 382 00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:22,200 are wearing red robes and some are wearing blue robes. And I just was 383 00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:32,119 stunned. First of all do people. Again, the individual, whoever they 384 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:36,160 were, I'm sure they were old enough to remember a certain Supreme Court case 385 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,799 in the year two thousand called Bush v. Gore. Some of you might 386 00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:44,400 remember that, you young uns might not, but yeah, Bush v. 387 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,480 Gore, where the Supreme Court ultimately decided. There's different ways you can look 388 00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:52,759 at it. I would say they decided who the next president of the United 389 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:56,880 States would be, and that was so political, so politicized in terms of 390 00:30:57,039 --> 00:31:03,079 how Americans perceived it. They actually and I'd never seen this before, and 391 00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:08,240 I'm not sure I've seen this since when they announced, when the Supreme Court 392 00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:14,319 announced their decision in favor of Bush, effectively giving the election to Bush. 393 00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:19,680 Again, we can quibble over the you know, that's my characterization. You 394 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,920 know, you'll you'll hear people say while Bush was selected, not elected, 395 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,279 selected by the Supreme Court. That's my characterization. You might disagree with it. 396 00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:30,559 That's fine. I don't want to get bogged down in that. I 397 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,200 was angry at the time. Looking back, I'm still a little angry. 398 00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:38,079 Even my dad said to me, And my dad's a conservative, but back 399 00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:41,839 then I think he was still a Democrat, and I remember him saying to 400 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,880 me, Yeah, Maddie, it's like the Supreme Court. They just decided, 401 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,119 Oh no, you don't have to count those votes in Florida. Never 402 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:56,279 mind, We're good. But I would hear all the same things. Then 403 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,920 people have short memories for this stuff, I guess, but I would. 404 00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:02,880 I would hear all these things in and again it was so politicized. They 405 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,920 actually sent Clarence speaking of Clarence Thomas, when they announced a decision, they 406 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,759 sent Clarence Thomas out to talk to the media. And I don't think it 407 00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:15,519 was like an official press conference, but I think he just came out because 408 00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:19,559 there was a lot of media. I'm trying to I can kind of mentally 409 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,839 picture it, but I don't think he was standing at a podium or anything. 410 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,480 But I think it was sort of informal. But I think he came 411 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,319 out. He actually came out of chambers to address the media and just said 412 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,920 politics played no role in our decision. I don't think he talked for very 413 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,519 long. He from what I understand over the years, he doesn't even really 414 00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:42,279 talk that much in court. He doesn't ask a lot of questions. That's 415 00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:45,519 not a reflection on how he does his job or on him, He just 416 00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:50,319 you know, he just doesn't ask a lot of questions. It's fairly unusual. 417 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,720 But he actually came out and talked to the media and tried to reassure 418 00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:57,960 everybody. Politics politics, I did not play any role in this. See 419 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,359 I am still angry about it because I suddenly am having trouble speaking. But 420 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:07,279 um, so none of this is new. And when you look at major 421 00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:17,680 cases, as we're analyzing cases that are up before the Supreme Court, inevitably 422 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,960 we have conversations about, well, you know, what are the liberal justices 423 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,400 gonna how are they going to vote? How are the conservative justice justice is 424 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,880 going to vote? So none of this is new. So I just say 425 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:36,119 all that to say, and again it's not something you say in polite company. 426 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,799 When you're having a political conversation, there is an expectation that we're all 427 00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:45,039 supposed to go, Oh my goodness, it's so much worse than I ever 428 00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:52,440 imagined, with um, Harlan Crowe spending all this money on Justice Thomas for 429 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,480 example, or this this new story that's broken with Alito. I never I 430 00:33:55,559 --> 00:34:06,359 never imagined this was going on. Um maybe I'm more cynical than the average 431 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:12,000 person on this stuff. You know because politics. Obviously I love politics, 432 00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:19,559 but I'm also very cynical about politics. That might sound strange. How can 433 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:22,199 you love something but also be very cynical about it? But you know, 434 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,719 I'm not a sports fan, but I'm sure a lot of sports fans can 435 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,800 relate to that. You know, like if you have a team that you 436 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,320 love, but you're also very cynical about them. I've heard sports fans do 437 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,800 that. Oh I love such and such a team, but ah, they 438 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,639 never win. They're gonna have another bad season. They're gonna break my heart 439 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:37,679 again. I just know it. So it's certainly as possible. So I 440 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,760 love politics, but I'm very cynical about it. I've always been very cynical 441 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,159 about the Supreme Court. I don't see them as any different. I understand 442 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,840 the process of how they get there is different. Obviously, they're not elected 443 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:59,480 in an open election. They're they're nominated and then confirmed or not confirmed in 444 00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:07,480 rare ca like like Bork. Remember Bork. But none of this is shocking 445 00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:12,440 to me. Now I'm going to say something you're really not supposed to say 446 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:19,039 in polite company when you're having a political conversation. Not only am I not 447 00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:22,760 shocked, about any of this going on, but I don't believe there's any 448 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:29,320 appetite within the court itself to do anything about it. Let me be very 449 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:35,679 specific, and again, I'd be curious to get some listener feedback on this, 450 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,719 because I can't be the only one who feels this way. Oh, 451 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,719 Scott Robinson in the shot says, I love the Hulkster, but I'm mad 452 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,159 he's not coming back. Cynical even yes, well, well he does have 453 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:52,920 quite a few back surgeries and he's seventy. But but you'll always be a 454 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:57,039 hulkamaniac, Scott, and I respect that. So again, I look at 455 00:35:57,039 --> 00:36:01,159 this story from US news dot com. Pressure mounts on Chief Justice John Roberts 456 00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,480 to adopt a code of ethics. Okay, now that brings me to the 457 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,679 other part of this, And this is where I'm gonna say something that again, 458 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:14,199 nobody in the mainstream media says this, but I'll say it because the 459 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,119 narrative in the in the mainstream media is Justice John Roberts. Chief Justice John 460 00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:21,840 Roberts, he must be very troubled by all of this. He must be 461 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:29,199 very troubled by the public's lack of confidence, lack of trust in the Supreme 462 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,719 Court. And then it goes back to that, you know, they're exalted 463 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,760 because then you get into because you know, the general public, they must 464 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,400 be. So they must be so bothered by all of this because the one 465 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:45,519 branch of government they thought they could trust, you know, and turns out 466 00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:49,119 there's ethics problems there too, just like you see in the other branches. 467 00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:54,159 So there must be pressure. Justice John Roberts must be feeling the pressure. 468 00:36:54,519 --> 00:37:00,039 Here's what I'm gonna say about that. I'm sorry, I don't believe that 469 00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:10,679 Chief Justice John Roberts gives a damn about any of it. I don't And 470 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:17,199 I'll say this, why would he? Now this goes to this goes I 471 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,199 know, I'm really getting cynical here, but this goes to a broader concept 472 00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:22,239 that we talk about on the show. You know, we talk about on 473 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:29,800 the show, especially lately, while you know, we talk about the some 474 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,760 people like to especially lately it's in fashion to talk about a two tiered criminal 475 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,320 justice system where I guess, you know, we hold we hold Donald Trump 476 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,440 to one standard, which is so unfair, and everybody else to a different 477 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,000 standard, or however you want to twist it, right, But the truth 478 00:37:44,039 --> 00:37:45,280 is, yes, we do have a two tiered criminal justice system in this 479 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:50,199 country. You have the wealthy, the elite, the well connected, the 480 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,039 powerful. They have a different standard than the rest of us, than the 481 00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:57,800 middle class, than the poor. Right, that's what is really two standards 482 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,639 of government, I mean two standards of criminal us. It's the way most 483 00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:07,719 people think about it. Right. So the elite, they protect themselves, 484 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,440 They to a large degree police themselves. They to a large degree escape accountability, 485 00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:23,280 and they generally only care about accountability. And when I say the elite, 486 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:28,400 I mean billionaires, I mean or millionaires, I mean politicians, I 487 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,400 mean you know, whoever has a lot of power, you know, the 488 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:39,559 elite, you know what I mean, they care about accountability. And as 489 00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:45,320 much as they have to look like they're caring about accountability, they only care 490 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:50,320 about as much accountability as they have to. Beyond that, they don't care. 491 00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:53,199 Because if they actually did care, then none of this would be a 492 00:38:53,199 --> 00:38:58,280 problem to begin with. But they don't. So I see all this in 493 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,119 the media. Now, Oh, first you had the story about Harlan Crowe 494 00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:06,599 spending all this money on Clarence Thomas. Now you've got this story about Samuel 495 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:12,639 Samuel Elito. Justice John Roberts. Chief Justice John Roberts, he must be 496 00:39:12,639 --> 00:39:15,559 really troubled by all of this. I don't think he gives a damn. 497 00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:21,639 I think he's going to look I'm like, I'm like a twelve on the 498 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:27,199 one to ten cynicism meter today, I realize, but I don't think he 499 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,119 gives a damn about any of it. But he will. He will look 500 00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:35,159 like he will do the bare minimum, which is all you can expect from 501 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,440 him. He will do and say the bare minimum to try to make it 502 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:44,159 look like he does. But at the end of the day, why would 503 00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:49,679 he Why would any of them? Why would any of them? Because they 504 00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:54,119 are the elite. You don't get much more elite than a Supreme Court justice. 505 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,000 I'm not saying they're all rich. I don't know how much money they 506 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,880 make, but then again, who needs Who needs a big salary when you've 507 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:07,679 got billionaires spending a whole lot of money on you, You know, but 508 00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:14,920 you don't get much more elite than that. They don't care. I don't 509 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:20,800 believe for a second Justice John Roberts cares. Sorry I keep Chief Justice John 510 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:27,360 Roberts, I don't believe he cares. Why would he? Are you going 511 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:32,679 to tell me that he had no idea that Harlan Crowe was spending money on 512 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,400 Clarence Thomas. Are you going to tell me that he had no idea that 513 00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:42,400 whoever this other person, I don't remember that they were spending money on Samuel 514 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:49,719 Alito. Are you going to tell me that it's completely outside the realm of 515 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,679 possibility. I'm not making an accusation, I'm not inferring anything. I'm just 516 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:59,039 saying, just throwing it out there. Are you going to tell me that 517 00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:04,679 it is completely out side the realm of possibility that somebody right now it's paying 518 00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:08,320 for a very lavish vacation for Chief Justice John Roberts? Why not? This 519 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:15,039 is how the elite operate. There is no accountability unless there has to be. 520 00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:22,679 And so far Chief Justice John Roberts has been pretty quiet, hasn't He 521 00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:30,039 hasn't said much. Why should he? Why would he? It's the Supreme 522 00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:36,800 Court again. You don't get much more elite than that, and I mean, 523 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:42,119 hell you can. You can wipe out fifty years of precedent with one 524 00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:45,800 court decision, right. You don't get much more elite and powerful than the 525 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:52,440 Supreme Court. That's the upper echelon of the upper echelon, right, all 526 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,920 that power, I don't know. And again, please don't misunderstand. I'm 527 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,239 not making excuses or justifications. I'm just saying I don't know human nature being 528 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:08,800 what it is. I don't know if it's even psychologically possible for any normal 529 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:22,519 person at that level of elitism to even make themselves care about accountability, about 530 00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:28,760 ethics and so on. I don't know if the human brain can even manage 531 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:35,920 that. I don't know, but I don't expect that from these people. 532 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,800 Maybe maybe Katangi Brown Jackson is different because she's still kind of the new kid. 533 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,800 You know. Maybe I don't know. I haven't heard anything bad. 534 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:52,920 But then again, the Samuel Alito thing goes back to two thousand and eight. 535 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:59,440 We're just hearing about it now. You know, they don't care. 536 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:05,960 They don't care. Nobody's apologizing for anything. Oh, I said Samuel Alito. 537 00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:07,440 He did that pre battle, so he seemed to get a little nervous. 538 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:14,400 But he's like seventy years old. He does. Do you think he 539 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:22,280 actually cares now? And I guarantee you John Roberts doesn't care. Could be 540 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,000 wrong. I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to be wrong. Scott Robinson 541 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,639 in the Chareman says, old Trump thing is very true. It just depends 542 00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:32,960 on how you feel about him. That's why he's so polarizing. Let's look 543 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,760 at this. Wow, we're already almost at the top of the art, 544 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,880 but let's look at this so again. This is from Usnews dot Com. 545 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:45,719 Pressure mounts on Chief Justice John Roberts to adopt a code of ethics. It 546 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,599 says here and I didn't preread this, so I'll be learning too. This 547 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,079 just went up today, I think. Actually this one up yesterday, but 548 00:43:54,760 --> 00:44:00,719 still pretty fresh. Pressure is mounting on Chief Justice John Roberts to adopt a 549 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,840 code of ethics for the Supreme Court in the wake of yet another revelation of 550 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:10,000 a justice not disclosing a luxury trip paid for by a billionaire GOP donor with 551 00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:15,880 business before the court. Senator Dick Durbin, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, 552 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:22,400 told MSNBC quote, there's one person who could end it before the sun sets 553 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,199 today, and that's Chief Justice John Roberts. It's time for him to step 554 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,400 up and announce there will be a code of ethics for the Supreme Court and 555 00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:34,000 that the disclosure laws will apply and they will follow at least the same rules 556 00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:37,039 as every other federal judge in America, not doing so as really at the 557 00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:42,800 expense of the reputation of the Court Une. By the way, that's an 558 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:49,119 important point that he alludes to. There, any other federal judge, you 559 00:44:49,159 --> 00:44:52,480 do have a code of ethics. Code of ethics is a pretty standard thing. 560 00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:57,280 Oh, but the Supreme Court. Remember we're taught, we're taught when 561 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,719 we're children, when we first learned about civic in school as children were taught. 562 00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:06,239 Oh, the Supreme Court, that's different. That's different. Those Supreme 563 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,760 Court justices, they're they're different. You can't you can't put any chains on 564 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:15,760 them there. It's a Supreme Court. Anybody lower than the Supreme Court, 565 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:23,599 who's a federal judge, Yeah, they have ethics rules. Durban's remarks follow 566 00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:30,800 a bombshell report from Pro Publica that Conservative Justice Samuel Alito flew with billionaire Paul 567 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:35,920 Singer on his private jet to a remote fishing and hunting lodge in Alaska, 568 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,360 a luxury trip that went unreported in financial disclosure forms, despite the fact that 569 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:49,679 Singer had multiple orders of business before the Court. One of those cases, 570 00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:54,159 Singer versus Argentina, in which Aldo ruled in Singer's favor with the majority of 571 00:45:54,199 --> 00:46:00,360 the court, ensured a two point four billion dollars windfall for Singer's company. 572 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,960 Now, let's think about that for a minute. Now. Oh, hello, 573 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,519 by the way, to our Chris h from Edgewise, who's in the 574 00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:13,000 Facebook life chat. Let's think about that for a minute. Now. We 575 00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:17,639 don't know, We can't know. We cannot prove, No one can that 576 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:24,039 Aledo would not have ruled in Singer's favor regardless, right, We can't know 577 00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:32,760 that, So we can't know that that's the reason that because Singer took him 578 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,000 on this luxury trip on a private jet to a remote fishing and hunting lodge 579 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:44,119 in Alaska. We can't know that that's the reason Alito ruled that he did. 580 00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:49,360 And I'm open to the possibility that it's not that Aldo would have ruled 581 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:57,760 that way anyway he might have. He might have, but think about either 582 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:07,000 well, well, let me just put it this way, the arrogance of 583 00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:16,280 Samuel Alito to not care how it looked, unless you just assume no one 584 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:21,840 would ever find out. But I'm sure at the very least the other justices 585 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:22,960 had to know. I mean, I've always heard, you know, the 586 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,480 Supreme Court justices, even even the ones who you know, are very different, 587 00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:30,960 very polarized politically, that you know, it's very congenial, it's very 588 00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:35,039 you know, sort of it's a fraternity. It's a very elite club. 589 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,760 It's only nine of them. It's a very elite club, being a Supreme 590 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:45,119 Court justice. Of course they talk, of course, on Monday morning, 591 00:47:45,159 --> 00:47:49,639 they talk about talk about their weekend. Of course, Samuel Alito said, 592 00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:52,639 hey, yeah, wait, don't you hear what I did? Hear what 593 00:47:52,679 --> 00:48:04,760 I got to do? So he either. I mean, I've certainly met 594 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,639 people who just don't have the self awareness to realize that they're doing something that 595 00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:15,760 looks really bad. That's possible, but I assume you don't get to be 596 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:21,760 a Supreme Court justice being an idiot. So I have to assume that Samuel 597 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:29,320 Alito had the self awareness to know that to any normal person this might look 598 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:37,280 really bad. So giving him that benefit of the doubt, and assuming he's 599 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:43,679 not completely oblivious and does have a degree of self awareness, I have to 600 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,119 assume that he was just so arrogant that he just didn't care, just didn't 601 00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:54,519 care how it looks he might have convinced himself. He very well. Look, 602 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,760 we're all guilty of it. We've all done this, right. I 603 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,519 don't mean we've done what this, but we've all been in situations where we 604 00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:06,960 convince ourselves of things. Oh, I can trust myself in this particular scenario. 605 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,360 Right, We convince ourselves that we can trust ourselves with things that maybe 606 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,880 we shouldn't actually be trusting ourselves with, but we kind of use that as 607 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,039 an excuse to do something we probably shouldn't be doing. So in other words, 608 00:49:19,199 --> 00:49:25,079 he probably may have possibly convinced himself. You know what, this guy 609 00:49:25,559 --> 00:49:30,199 has a case coming up that I'm going to be ruling on. Some people 610 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,800 might think that looks really inappropriate for me to accept this luxury trip. But 611 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,840 you know what. You know what, though I'm cool, I trust myself, 612 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:45,039 I know me, and I know that I am an ethical person above 613 00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:51,360 reproach, and I would never allow something like this to influence me. So 614 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:57,239 hey, if Paul Singer wants to spend all this money on me, jokes 615 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:02,360 on him, it's not going to affect my decision in this case one iota. 616 00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:09,400 That's right. I'm say I'm alito, I'm I'm I'm ethical. I 617 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:15,920 am so confident in my own ethics that you can buy me a luxury trip 618 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:21,639 and I know it will not affect how I feel about you and your court 619 00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:24,840 case and how I'm going to rule. It won't affect anything. Oh, 620 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:30,559 you can try. You can try to bribe me. Oh, go ahead 621 00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:37,440 and try. That's how confident I am in my goodness, in my ethics, 622 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:44,239 in my honesty. No, seriously, go ahead, try to bribe 623 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,559 me. Go ahead. Yea sad we have a luxury trip. Oh good, 624 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,119 good. I mean you're wasting your time. It's not gonna get you 625 00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:51,360 anything. But yeah, go ahead, go ahead and try whatever I want. 626 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,760 I will try to stop you. I mean, people do again, 627 00:50:54,800 --> 00:51:00,880 and that's an element of human nature. People do, uh, people do 628 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:05,039 talk themselves into things thinking that I can trust myself and then oops, I 629 00:51:05,159 --> 00:51:07,159 let myself down. Oh but I can't admit to myself that I let myself 630 00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:15,639 down. Scott Robinson says, kind of like that Pepperonian pineapple pizza. It's 631 00:51:15,679 --> 00:51:19,400 nothing like that, Scott. That's a pineapple on pizzas in its own realm 632 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:30,400 of hell. Let's see Durban said quote, You're not talking about minor rulings. 633 00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:36,000 That is substantial unquote. Last month, Pro Publica published a similarly striking 634 00:51:36,039 --> 00:51:39,440 story about Justice Clarence Thomas, who was treated to lavish vacations for more than 635 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:46,440 two decades by billionaire and Republican megadonner Harlan Crowe, including on his yacht, 636 00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:52,719 private jet, and exclusive resorts. Crowe also bought the house where Thomas's mother 637 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:59,519 lives, provided most of the budget for a conservative political organization founded by Thomas's 638 00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:07,840 wife, j n The well I was gonna, I was gonna refer to 639 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:12,760 Jail, I was gonna editorialize and refer to Jenny as his insurrectionist wife. 640 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,280 But I don't think she actually stormed the capital. She just uh, but 641 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,880 she did try to subvert democracy by overturning the election, working behind the scenes 642 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,239 to overturn the election. Uh. Seditionist will go with that, Jinny the 643 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:42,559 seditionist wife of Clarence Thomas. Um and uh oh that's odd. Sorry, 644 00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:51,039 everybody, A little issue with my computer here? Um see did I fix 645 00:52:51,119 --> 00:53:00,280 it? I fixed it? Um? Yeah? So uh oh, and 646 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:05,960 Harlan Crowe covered the tab of the private school tuition for Thomas's grand nephew, 647 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,480 So Durban said, quote this is the bottom line. As far as I 648 00:53:09,519 --> 00:53:15,679 see it, the disclosures from Justice Alito strangely or sadly parallel the same disclosure 649 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:20,679 is about Justice Thomas. It appears that there's a feeling on the Supreme Court 650 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,760 that it's none of our business. No one needs to know when conflicts or 651 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,920 interests occur, and the Justices don't need to refuse themselves on critical decisions that 652 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,920 are worth billions of dollars from people who are briefs are befriending them on their 653 00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:37,079 vacations. By the way, part of the reason I think you do occasionally. 654 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,360 It's rare, though, or maybe it's not as rare as I think 655 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:45,119 it is. I mean, somebody who pays somebody who really watches the Supreme 656 00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:49,599 Court more closely than I do, might know better. But my impression is 657 00:53:49,639 --> 00:53:52,800 that it's relatively rare. But it does happen. Recusals do happen. They 658 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:57,199 have happened where somebody on the Supreme Court says I don't I don't think I 659 00:53:57,199 --> 00:54:04,880 should rule on this case for whatever reason. But my suspicion is that because 660 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:10,639 that happens every once in a while, that there is probably a thought in 661 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,800 the minds of these justices that, well, you know, people do recuse 662 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,559 themselves occasionally, so that should be good enough. So we look like we 663 00:54:17,639 --> 00:54:23,079 are recusing ourselves when appropriate. So if we don't recuse ourselves when we're being 664 00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:25,920 bought and paid for it, that's okay. As long as it happens once 665 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:31,920 in a while, no one will catch on it, says here. While 666 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:37,440 ethical transgressions among Supreme Court justices are not new, the frequency and depth of 667 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:44,280 the transgressions seems to have reached a crescendo, and legal and judicial ethics experts 668 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:49,679 agree that the Court is at a watershed moment standing on the precipice of public 669 00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:52,480 trust. See again, though, the public trust thing, this is something, 670 00:54:52,519 --> 00:54:54,000 This has become a narrative in the mainstream media. Well, the court 671 00:54:54,039 --> 00:54:58,280 is losing the public trust. I got news for you. I'm the only 672 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:05,159 one will say it. I don't think they care. I don't Why would 673 00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:08,760 they care. It's a lifetime appointment. They don't care about the public's trust. 674 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:15,559 Why would they what's gonna happen. They're gonna lose their next election. 675 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:21,760 Hoops, it's a lifetime appointment. Doesn't matter to them. I promise you 676 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,599 that's the last thing on the minds of any of these people public's trust. 677 00:55:28,519 --> 00:55:30,280 Scott says in the chat room, that's very cynical. Yeah, I know, 678 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,719 I know. See to me, it all seems obvious, but it's 679 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,679 actually too cynical for what you get in the mainstream media. So if I 680 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,079 have to be the guy who says, hey, let's just call this like 681 00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:47,239 it is, then I guess that's a I guess I'm the chosen one. 682 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:52,000 As a former president once said, A gallop hole taken last year showed that 683 00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:55,599 just twenty five percent of the public has faith in the Supreme Court, a 684 00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:00,360 new low and down from thirty one in twenty twenty one. The wake of 685 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:06,440 increasing perceptions of politicization and a widely unpopular ruling overturning the Roe v. Wade 686 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,639 precedent that guaranteed abortion access, The ethical controversies have done little to restore trust. 687 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,159 For his part, Alito has strongly denied any ethical wrongdoing, issuing a 688 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:22,079 legalistic defense to the Wall Street Journal that purses the terminology used to govern ethics 689 00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:29,119 transgressions, and has been criticized for selectively addressing the allegations against him. Thomas 690 00:56:29,199 --> 00:56:35,000 also has vehemently denied any conduct outside of current ethical guidelines, while the justice 691 00:56:35,079 --> 00:56:38,920 is wow, good enough for me, Okay, thanks guys. No, 692 00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:44,840 while the justices have reportedly been see, that's what they're counting on. Though 693 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,199 they count on that, well, we'll throw them. We'll just tell them 694 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,880 no, no, it's all good. Don't worry about it, and that'll 695 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,519 be good enough. And we don't care about the public trust anyway. So 696 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:57,920 whatever I got, I got a private I got a flight on a private 697 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,639 jet to catch. I don't have time to worry about public trust. I'm 698 00:57:00,679 --> 00:57:06,079 going to the Bahamas with one of my billionaire buddies. It's got a case 699 00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:09,079 coming before the court next month. It's gonna be great. Not that that 700 00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:13,000 has anything to do with the trip, but I gotta go catch to that 701 00:57:13,079 --> 00:57:19,559 plane. Can't keep a billionaire waiting. A billionaire is going to spend a 702 00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:25,920 lot of money on me. While these justices have reportedly been internally debating about 703 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,039 how to reform their code of ethics for the last four years, they failed 704 00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:35,719 to reach a consensus. Oh I have not committed to a timeline, and 705 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,199 Chief Justice Roberts has refused invitations to appear before a Congress who addressed the matter. 706 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,079 Oh yeah, he doesn't care. And now he's also in his seventies, 707 00:57:43,159 --> 00:57:45,800 right, Justice Roberts, Yeah, he's You think at this point he's 708 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,559 all of a sudden gonna say, you know what, maybe maybe this was 709 00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:52,840 maybe maybe this was a mistake accepting all the you know, maybe I should 710 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:57,199 go talk to Congress about and explain my side of things. He doesn't care. 711 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,960 He's gonna be a Supreme Court until the day he dies, and he 712 00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:08,400 knows it. He does not care. Democrats in both chambers have offered legislative 713 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:14,119 solutions, but even those with bipartisans support would be difficult to pass through the 714 00:58:14,159 --> 00:58:17,519 Republican controlled House, especially at a time when the Court's conservative majority is set 715 00:58:17,559 --> 00:58:22,920 to move on a slate of issues important to their voting base. Durban said, 716 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,960 quote, they failed to disclose the very basic things. It's got to 717 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:31,239 come to an end. Unquote all right, well, nothing will change. 718 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,159 Let's see, we are a little bit past stop they are. We do 719 00:58:37,239 --> 00:58:44,039 need to get to a break soon. But Jenny is on the line. 720 00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:49,719 Hello, Hello, Did I catch you in between topics? Uh no, 721 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,559 but that's okay, it's it's it's a good time. I was listening and 722 00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:57,440 trying. I wanted to call him and just say thank you to the people 723 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,159 that have been supporting me. I'm really excited only Sunday to go back to 724 00:59:00,239 --> 00:59:07,199 DC to attend the People's Action National Convention. Yes, and there's about forty 725 00:59:07,199 --> 00:59:09,800 different organizations that are going to be there. We're expecting thousand people are so 726 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:15,559 in attendance. I'm really excited to get to speak there about healthcare and that 727 00:59:15,719 --> 00:59:20,440 everybody deserves access to healthcare, no matter who they are. This in this 728 00:59:20,599 --> 00:59:22,360 nation, everybody should be able to access health care. And that's what I'm 729 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,679 going to be working on. And I will be coming back in late Tuesday 730 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:30,639 night after I go back to the Capitol and do some more lauding before I 731 00:59:30,639 --> 00:59:35,239 come home. Yes, yes, very good. And will any of that 732 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,519 be streaming? Do you know? I mean I would assume so, but 733 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:45,199 I think so. But I've been so we've all been doing so many things 734 00:59:45,199 --> 00:59:50,119 preparing for this. Thank you for getting to ask. Yeah, it's streams. 735 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,119 Yeah, I'm sure everything's going to be recorded and stuff. And I 736 00:59:52,159 --> 00:59:58,920 do know that there are some videos of me that well to be getting put 737 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,880 together. They may be coming soon. Very good, will be will be 738 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:09,639 more videos yes, yes, of course, all right, excellent, all 739 01:00:09,679 --> 01:00:13,599 right, Rady, I will let you go into the next topic because I 740 01:00:13,639 --> 01:00:15,440 was actually paying attention. I was trying to thank before you started. The 741 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:20,719 Wall Street Okay, I actually listened before I call it. It's this crazy 742 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,480 thing I have. Yeah, I'm kind of like figuring out what you're talking 743 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:27,199 about. I don't know. Not everyone does that. Who knows. It's 744 01:00:27,239 --> 01:00:30,920 It's good. It's a good habit. All right, Jenny, thank you? 745 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,840 All right, bye bye, all right, very good. Um, 746 01:00:36,239 --> 01:00:38,639 yeah, just quickly and then we will get a break. But um. 747 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:45,320 Wall Street Journal Editorial board defends Alito. All right, let's see what they 748 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:46,559 had to say. Now, this isn't directly from the Wall Street Journal. 749 01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:51,679 This is from Politico. Says here. The Wall Street Journals Editorial Board defended 750 01:00:51,679 --> 01:00:57,880 Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito and it's previously undisclosed fishing trip with the GOP donor 751 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:02,280 in an editorial Wednesday night, blasting Pro Publica's report as a non scandal built 752 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:09,400 on partisan's spin. Actually, oh never mind, Oh we had another call, 753 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:14,559 the board wrote, quote, the political assault on the Supreme Court continues, 754 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,320 and the latest justice in the grinder is Samuel Alito as usual. This 755 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:22,559 is a non scandal built on partisan spin intended to harm the Justice and the 756 01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:27,480 current court majority unquote. Aldo came under scrutiny after a Pro Publica investigation revealed 757 01:01:27,719 --> 01:01:31,559 that the Justice had taken an expensive and previously undisclosed luxury fishing trip with prominent 758 01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:35,679 conservative donor Paul Singer in two thousand and eight. He also stayed at a 759 01:01:35,719 --> 01:01:42,519 pricey in bank rolled by another major GOP donor. The report alleged Aledo penned 760 01:01:42,519 --> 01:01:46,360 a defensive op ed in the Journal before the report's a publication, denying any 761 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:52,199 wrongdoing, alleging in the headline that Pro Publica misleads its readers. Yeah. 762 01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:57,679 So the reason that happened is so Pro Publica reached out to Aledo for comment 763 01:01:57,719 --> 01:02:01,000 on the story, So he knew the story was coming, so um, 764 01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:06,960 he posted that op ad in the Wall Street Journal as kind of a pre 765 01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:10,000 bottle to get out ahead of the story. And Shannon's on the line. 766 01:02:10,039 --> 01:02:14,800 High, Shanna, good afternoon, How are you good? How are you? 767 01:02:15,239 --> 01:02:19,360 I know it's your favorite day? Yes, good tell policy and DJ 768 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,400 Stephen Mike. I said hello, yeah, absolutely tonight, Okay, we'll 769 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,559 do And I was gonna say, Um, the judge did when he went 770 01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:29,000 on his fishing trip, did he did he go over the limit on his 771 01:02:29,119 --> 01:02:34,039 catch? Is that divulged anywhere? I mean, really he probably did. 772 01:02:34,559 --> 01:02:38,199 Okay, good, who's gonna hold him accountable? Yeah, I mean there's 773 01:02:38,239 --> 01:02:42,360 limitations, you know, I think I don't know any more what they are. 774 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:49,119 But truthfully, you know, fishing wise, there's limitations. But yes, 775 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,199 that's neither here nor there. I was being smart, No I did. 776 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,400 Yeah, I know, I know, nerdy pants, you know it's 777 01:02:54,440 --> 01:03:00,320 allowed. Barney, all right, Shannon, have a good night. All 778 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:05,599 right, you two have a good weekend. You absolutely, she's listening. 779 01:03:05,679 --> 01:03:07,840 She heard you, all right, by bye. All right. That was 780 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,400 our friend, Shannon. I just want to finish up with this before we 781 01:03:09,639 --> 01:03:15,320 get to a break. Um, the editorial board lambassad pro Publica for it's 782 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,719 uh And by the way, pro Publica is a liberal site. That that 783 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,719 is, we should say that, but uh, lambassad pro Publica for it's 784 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:28,960 a typically slanted quote unquote reporting alleging that Alito had violated the Court's ethics policy 785 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,719 of disclosing gifts. Numerous lawmakers have called for reform on the court since the 786 01:03:31,719 --> 01:03:37,880 outlet revealed earlier this year, Justice Clarence Thomas's close eyes with GOP Megadon or 787 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,199 Harlan Crow. Let me stop there for a second, though, I don't 788 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,440 see here's the point of all this, of why why I'm talking about this 789 01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:50,639 today? Weather? Okay, So pro publica. So they're saying, The 790 01:03:50,639 --> 01:03:53,000 Wall Street Journal is saying, well, pro publica, pro pro that's hard 791 01:03:53,039 --> 01:04:00,840 to say pro public lah public Uh is uh? Pro public there, I 792 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:05,039 can do it. They're saying that, well, he violated, he violated 793 01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:09,800 the ethics rules. What a ridiculous thing to accuse him of. How dare 794 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,920 they? Well? To me, honestly, that's not even the point. 795 01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:15,840 The only point I'm trying to make, your guys, I don't you know, 796 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,239 I don't know how the ethics rules work. There doesn't seem to be 797 01:04:18,239 --> 01:04:23,679 a whole lot of ethics rules, or they don't seem to be enforced all 798 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,199 what. I'm just making the point that no one should be surprised, and 799 01:04:27,239 --> 01:04:30,480 we need to get over this idea of thinking as a supreme of the Supreme 800 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:36,000 Court is somehow being different. Those are politicians. They you know, there's 801 01:04:36,039 --> 01:04:40,519 a reason we have liberal and conservative justices and judges in this country. They're 802 01:04:40,559 --> 01:04:44,480 politicians. They are. We can pretend all we want to that they're not, 803 01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:48,199 but they are. And again, think of how highly politicized the entire 804 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:53,239 process it is to just go through confirmation to become a Supreme Court justice, 805 01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:58,880 and then you can accurately predict not all the time, but much of the 806 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,880 time which way each individual justice is going to rule based on what they're politics, 807 01:05:03,159 --> 01:05:09,960 their ideology. So I'm just saying we need to, you know, 808 01:05:10,039 --> 01:05:15,039 if we want anything to change here. I'm not worried particularly about what rule 809 01:05:15,159 --> 01:05:19,079 he broke or didn't break. What I'm worried about is that he had the 810 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:28,400 arrogance to not even care about There's this phrase that everybody should know the appearance 811 01:05:28,599 --> 01:05:34,400 of impropriety, not just impropriety, the appearance of impropriety. And if you're 812 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:40,760 in a position of power and you don't care about the appearance of impropriety, 813 01:05:41,159 --> 01:05:44,280 whether there is any actual impropriety or not, if you're not cared about the 814 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:50,320 appearance of it, then you're just arrogant. You know you don't have to 815 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,639 You're in a position where you know you don't have to care, so you 816 01:05:53,679 --> 01:05:58,880 don't care, So you engage in what is much impropriety or even things that 817 01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,400 might look like impropriety as you want to, because it just doesn't matter to 818 01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:05,039 you. It just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. To Samuel Alito. 819 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,840 I'm not there. They're saying, well, you know, they're they're 820 01:06:09,159 --> 01:06:12,599 claiming he violated the rules. It's not about whether or not he violated the 821 01:06:12,679 --> 01:06:15,679 rules. It's about the fact that he doesn't care. And I'm sure none 822 01:06:15,679 --> 01:06:17,519 of them care, and I'm sure John Roberts doesn't care, and I damn 823 01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:21,719 well know Clarence Thomas doesn't care. None of them care because they don't care 824 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:27,320 about us, because they don't care what we think. They are the elite, 825 01:06:28,199 --> 01:06:31,000 they know it, and they don't care about any of us, and 826 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,760 they don't care about our trust. Oh, trust in the Supreme Court is 827 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:39,280 at an all time low. I've not trusted the Supreme Court a day in 828 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,199 my life, just as I have not trusted senators, just as I'm not 829 01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:45,760 trusted Congressman, just as I've not trusted presidents, just as I would not 830 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:50,639 trust a king or a queen. You don't blindly just trust people in power. 831 01:06:54,119 --> 01:06:56,639 I mean, and by the way, if there's someone if there's a 832 01:06:56,639 --> 01:07:02,239 particularly powerful person who you do put your blind faith and trust and unquestioning faith 833 01:07:02,239 --> 01:07:10,559 and trust, well then you might be an occult. But anyway, the 834 01:07:11,159 --> 01:07:15,239 board added, the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board quote, Justice Elito is still 835 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,360 on the court, so he is the big fish that Pro Publica is attempting 836 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:24,360 to catch and filet We are defending the Court because someone has to. Someone 837 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,559 has to stand up for judicial independence and an institution that is part of the 838 01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:32,400 bedrock of our constitutional order. Unquote. I wish I'd worn some boots before 839 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,320 I read that. Wow, we are standing up for the court because someone 840 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:43,480 has to. Oh, the poor Supreme Court is being picked on. Let 841 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,119 me translate that for you. We at the Wall Street Journal editorial Board, 842 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,880 we are part of the elite. Someone else in the elite is being picked 843 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:56,639 on. The system protects itself, The elite protect themselves. That's what that 844 01:07:56,719 --> 01:08:00,360 really means. Trying to cast the Supreme Court as some sort of victim. 845 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:09,119 That's actually bizarre and pretty nuts, even for the Wall Street Journal. Stephen 846 01:08:09,199 --> 01:08:13,599 Engelberg, Pro public As editor in chief condemned the op ed's headline quote, 847 01:08:14,039 --> 01:08:17,640 which the piece declared without having without anyone having read the article and without asking 848 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:24,359 for our comment. We're curious to know whether the journal fact checked the essay 849 01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:28,319 before publication, unquote, he told The New York Times. Meanwhile, a 850 01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:32,079 new poll from Quinnipiac published Wednesday found that the Supreme Court's public approval rating singing 851 01:08:32,079 --> 01:08:36,600 to thirty percent among registered voters, the lowest and the poll began nearly two 852 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:43,000 decades ago. They don't care. I'm telling you all right, let's get 853 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,800 to a break. We're running late. I'm gonna play a little song for 854 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,239 you, little chemical distance I think on a Friday, and then we'll show 855 01:08:49,279 --> 01:08:51,800 some love to our amazing sponsors, and then we'll be back with the balance 856 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:56,199 of our show. There's plenty more to come on Matt Connerton Unleashed. Don't 857 01:08:56,199 --> 01:09:41,359 go away. Welcome back everybody as we cruise into our final segment today on 858 01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:45,560 Matt Connerton Unleashed. We are live from the studios of w m n H 859 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,840 ninety five point three FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on 860 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:54,479 Comcast ninety seven. If you're in Manchester and hello to all of our online 861 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,359 listeners across the nation and around the globe. You can go to my website 862 01:09:57,359 --> 01:10:00,399 Matt Connerton dot com for all of your live streaming options, social media links, 863 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:04,079 contact in folk show archives, etc. Etc. Today is Friday, 864 01:10:04,199 --> 01:10:08,840 June twenty three, twenty twenty three, so nice to have y'all with me. 865 01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,239 Friday, of course, my favorite day of the week here because it's 866 01:10:11,279 --> 01:10:13,880 my long day at WMH. I get to do double duty and I do 867 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,319 love it because immediately after this show, of course, we have granted State 868 01:10:16,359 --> 01:10:19,920 of Mind hosted by Rob as a Veto and Paul Stone, which by the 869 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:24,239 way, next week is moving to Thursdays at nine pm apparently, so I 870 01:10:24,359 --> 01:10:28,479 heard that announcement today on the morning show. But then I am back tonight 871 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:33,319 from eight to eleven pm for Retro Spectrum Radio with Paulyc and I'm very excited 872 01:10:33,359 --> 01:10:40,319 about that. Of course, along with Paul and myself and one of his 873 01:10:40,399 --> 01:10:43,880 co hosts, we have DJ Steve and Mike from Queen City Cabinetry. And 874 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:48,880 this week the subject is part two of original demo recordings of popular Songs. 875 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,960 Had a great time with that last week. That was a lot of fun. 876 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,359 I love the subject. I'm a nerd for that kind of thing, 877 01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:59,760 so I'm really looking forward to tonight's show as well Retro Spectrum Radio with Police 878 01:11:00,119 --> 01:11:03,760 beginning tonight from eight to eleven pm. Let's see what else is going on 879 01:11:04,039 --> 01:11:09,640 tonight at the hop Knot if you're out and about. Of course, they've 880 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:14,159 got those delicious scoremet pretzels. They have the ever burgeoning assortment of craft beer. 881 01:11:14,359 --> 01:11:17,560 They've also got a very special event tonight, Big Gay Bingo at the 882 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:23,760 hop Knot, hosted by Onyx Rains and glam Chowda beginning tonight at nine pm. 883 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:30,479 It's like bingo but gay, and uh looks like our friend, our 884 01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,479 friend Ron is on the line high run. Yeah. I met good show 885 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:40,760 tonight and I'm intrigued as to what Jenny is doing. I wish there was 886 01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:45,600 more info and um, I mean, I hope and surely obviously it's a 887 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:51,000 peaceful event, but I just, hands down, that's pretty courageous. So 888 01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:55,960 that's kind of what I'm saying. Yes, yes, I'm very proud of 889 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,439 her. And of course, uh, yep, she's going going for another 890 01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:03,119 event and in DC or a couple of things where she'll be speaking and it's 891 01:12:03,319 --> 01:12:06,880 it's fantastic. You know, she's really doing a lot to try to uh 892 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:12,279 you know, help people get healthcare. Yeah, well, thank god. 893 01:12:12,359 --> 01:12:15,359 I mean, you never hear about people standing up, and to know someone 894 01:12:15,399 --> 01:12:18,439 that does it, it's like, wow, that's awesome. So I I 895 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:21,960 wish you that totally the best. Uh. I can't wait to hear the 896 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,640 outcome. Yes, well, I would love to see it on the news, 897 01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:29,479 but that's not going to happen. Uh well, I mean maybe not 898 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:33,159 on local news here in Manchester, but uh, I wouldn't be I wouldn't 899 01:12:33,159 --> 01:12:39,159 be surprised if you see your pop up on the national news. Yeah. 900 01:12:39,239 --> 01:12:42,560 Well, any even anyway, that was it. It's gonna be a good 901 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,239 show tonight, I know. And Jenny, huh really kudos to you. 902 01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,880 I mean that's great. Yeah she said, everybody be safe, have a 903 01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,079 good weekend. All right, Ron, thank you for the call. I 904 01:12:51,079 --> 01:12:56,479 appreciate it. And yet Matt Matt, Matt, Matt, Yes still they 905 01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,520 met. I am, yes, I'm still here. Um. I guess 906 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:06,119 the other day that allegedly some food was left over, did anybody uh take 907 01:13:06,199 --> 01:13:11,399 pirate for it? It just get trashed a couple of hot dogs. I 908 01:13:12,119 --> 01:13:15,000 did not. I have no idea. I don't know anything about hot dogs 909 01:13:15,239 --> 01:13:18,560 being left Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have no no clue. I 910 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,399 couldn't tell you. Yeah, it don't matter. I've just it was curiosity, 911 01:13:21,399 --> 01:13:26,880 because you know, curiosity more than anything. That's all right, guys, 912 01:13:27,199 --> 01:13:30,000 all right, Ron, thank you for the call. Bye bye, 913 01:13:30,039 --> 01:13:31,439 all right, thank you, bye bye. All right. That was our 914 01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,520 friend Ron. Always nice here from him. I know nothing of the hot 915 01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:38,720 dogs, but uh, I mean, and even if I did get here 916 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,159 in the afternoon and there were hot dogs left over, that's not something. 917 01:13:41,199 --> 01:13:43,680 I think. It's one thing if there's like a muffin, like if somebody 918 01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:47,079 leaves a muffin, uh, you know, I uh, but I'll enjoy 919 01:13:47,159 --> 01:13:50,279 that. But if there were some hot dog, I do. I remember 920 01:13:50,319 --> 01:13:56,079 the time I came in and uh, there was a box of donuts left 921 01:13:56,079 --> 01:14:00,239 over from the morning show. And I opened the box of donuts and there's 922 01:14:00,359 --> 01:14:02,920 there's a few donuts, but there's also a hot dog in there. And 923 01:14:03,119 --> 01:14:06,159 uh, I couldn't touch those donuts after they'd been in the box with that 924 01:14:06,319 --> 01:14:14,640 hot dog, because something about that just seems so wrong. But Jenny is 925 01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:15,960 in the chat room, Ron, if you're still listening, she said, 926 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,279 thank you, Yes, absolutely absolutely, uh six three two five O six 927 01:14:20,319 --> 01:14:24,159 O seven is a number if you'd like to join us six zo three two 928 01:14:24,159 --> 01:14:27,399 five O six zo seven. You can also text me at six one seven 929 01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,319 nine one seven four four seven six. I'm on social media at Matt Connerton. 930 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,560 You can email me Matt at Matt Connerton dot com, and of course 931 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:38,039 you can interact endo Pine in the Facebook live chat. But the best thing 932 01:14:38,039 --> 01:14:41,159 to do so the weekend here and enjoy your dolcet tones is to give us 933 01:14:41,159 --> 01:14:44,640 a call at six zo three two five six seven six zo three two five 934 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,399 six seven. Oh, but I do want to finish talking about what's going 935 01:14:46,399 --> 01:14:51,920 on tonight with the big gay bingo at the Hopknot because this is actually for 936 01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:57,039 a very good cause. This is what Kenny put on social media. We'll 937 01:14:57,079 --> 01:14:59,920 get going at nine pm, so get there early to grab a good sea. 938 01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:02,800 The game is free to play, but we'd love it if you made 939 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:09,640 a five dollar donation to m v ap NHA, local organization that helps people 940 01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:14,479 living with HIV and AIDS maintain a high quality of life through education, support 941 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:18,199 and empowerment. So that will be uh so, yeah, that's an excellent 942 01:15:18,279 --> 01:15:21,119 cause, you know, and they do you know, we're very proud to 943 01:15:21,119 --> 01:15:24,680 have them as a sponsor for a number of reasons, but they do a 944 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,640 lot for the community at the Hopknot, and hey, the food's pretty good 945 01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,600 too and the craft beer and Trudy is going to be here with us on 946 01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:34,479 Monday in studio, so we look forward to that. But yes, it's 947 01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:39,760 like bingo but gay and of course appropriate for a Pride month. It is 948 01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,239 the twenty third, so we've got about another Yeah, we've got another week 949 01:15:42,319 --> 01:15:47,920 left, one more week of of Pride for twenty twenty three. So very 950 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,279 good, very good. Also going on tonight too. By the way, 951 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:56,560 DJ Reckless is in the main room at SOHO tonight if you want to go 952 01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,439 and see him DJ and support. He's been working very, very hard and 953 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,199 we're very proud of him, so I just want to mention that too. 954 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:13,199 Let's see a quick thing. This came up earlier in the week. I 955 01:16:13,279 --> 01:16:17,239 think it was Crystal, our friend from Illinois, I think who had originally 956 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:24,119 brought this up, and we didn't get to it that day. I haven't 957 01:16:24,119 --> 01:16:26,239 seen her in the chat room, so I don't know if she's listening today. 958 01:16:26,279 --> 01:16:31,600 But this story about Spotify. Bill Simmons at Spotify, he's a Spotify 959 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:41,560 executive and he called um he called Prince Harry and Megan Markle blanking grifters, 960 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:45,479 except to use the actual word, which starts with F and I do not 961 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:49,960 mean farfugnugan. And initially I was kind of like, oh, whatever, 962 01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,720 because I don't care about the royal family and I don't care about Prince Harry 963 01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:58,439 and Megan Markle. But it's not something I get into. I just don't 964 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,600 pay that much attention to them. But this did catch my interest actually upon 965 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,359 taking a second look, because I do care about media in all its forms, 966 01:17:05,359 --> 01:17:10,800 whether we're talking about more establishment media like cable news for example, or 967 01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:15,840 online media like Spotify and all their various podcasts and things. What goes on 968 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,199 in the world of media at any of the various levels that we have today 969 01:17:18,279 --> 01:17:24,119 is very interesting to me, especially when there's some sort of drama. So 970 01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:30,119 this is from Newsweek. Spotify exec has grenade like Prince Harry's story. So 971 01:17:30,159 --> 01:17:32,680 I did want to take a closer look at this because I'm very curious about 972 01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:36,319 what happened here, you know, and again, if you're a host or 973 01:17:36,319 --> 01:17:41,319 a content creator like myself, this type of thing might be interesting to you. 974 01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:45,680 Says here the collapse of the Spotify deal will not damage Megan Markle, 975 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:51,840 but an executive an executive's hint at a grenade like anecdote about Prince Harry could 976 01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:59,159 be crippling, a PR expert told Newsweek. The Duke and Duchess of sexis 977 01:17:59,279 --> 01:18:05,359 is multi year partnership with the streaming giant along with Netflix, was heralded as 978 01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:10,800 proof of their financial independence from the monarchy when it was announced in December of 979 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:15,560 twenty twenty Three years later, and the two sides have parted ways with only 980 01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:23,520 a twelve part podcast to show for it. Bill Simmons, host of podcast 981 01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:28,560 Innovation, Oh I'm sorry Bill Simmons, He's the head of podcast innovation and 982 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:35,319 monetization at Spotify, added insult to injury by calling the couple blanking grifters during 983 01:18:35,359 --> 01:18:41,520 his own podcast. The swipe captured headlines not only at the ordinarily hostile British 984 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:47,439 press, but also as far and wide a CNN Variety and Deadline. However, 985 01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:53,000 there was another remark by Simmons that caught the eye of PR consultant Eric 986 01:18:53,079 --> 01:18:57,960 Schiffer, head of Reputation Management Consultants. Simmons added quote, I got to 987 01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,600 get drunk one night and tell the story of the zoom call I had with 988 01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:05,560 Harry trying to help him with a podcast idea. It's one of my best 989 01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:13,279 stories unquote, Schiffer told Newsweek. Quote that is a crippling comment because it 990 01:19:13,359 --> 01:19:15,760 raises it at a critical time with the contract, and it suggests there's something 991 01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,279 there that could be a grenade like story to Harry. We'll have to see 992 01:19:19,279 --> 01:19:23,439 whether he chooses to release it. For a Spotify executive to attack Harry and 993 01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:28,199 broad Daylight and Spotify not condemn. It suggests there's some strong feelings within the 994 01:19:28,199 --> 01:19:32,439 executive team at Spotify against Harry and perhaps some dark feelings about the interactions unquote. 995 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:36,079 Simmons account is difficult for Harry because it highlights the fact that the Duke 996 01:19:36,159 --> 01:19:41,279 did attempt to produce a Spotify podcast that never got to the point it was 997 01:19:41,319 --> 01:19:45,800 considered fit for release. However, the Sussex camp may also note the phrase 998 01:19:46,319 --> 01:19:49,840 quote one of my best stories unquote, which suggests Simmons may have already told 999 01:19:49,880 --> 01:20:02,439 people what was discussed. Now I'm going to let's look at this other story 1000 01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:08,199 because I think this is related. This is from Bloomberg, and uh, 1001 01:20:08,319 --> 01:20:12,960 this is new so this I think this gets into Uh. Oh, hello 1002 01:20:13,039 --> 01:20:15,640 to Uh there's a new name in the Facebook live chat Brandon. Uh. 1003 01:20:16,079 --> 01:20:20,840 Curseo Cercio. I'm sorry for butchering your last name, but welcome to the 1004 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,840 program, Brandon. This is something. Uh, this is popped up, 1005 01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:29,000 so I think this is related. This is from Bloomberg. Prince Harry's podcast 1006 01:20:29,159 --> 01:20:34,640 Pitch interview Putin and Trump about their childhoods. During a nearly three year production 1007 01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:40,880 deal with Spotify, the Duke of Sussex explored several podcast ideas. None came 1008 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:44,720 to fruition. By the way, if anyone from Spotify is listening, if 1009 01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,800 you'd like to offer me a multi year deal with lots of money, I'd 1010 01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:50,439 be more than happy too. I've got lots of ideas. I've got tons 1011 01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:56,399 of ideas and uh and I'm not a grifter and uh, you know, 1012 01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:00,680 I mean feel free to uh you know, I know you back back to 1013 01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,640 the brinkstruck up to Joe Rogan's front door when you hired him. If you 1014 01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:10,720 want to do that for me, you certainly ken. Oh oh, I'm 1015 01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:14,079 sorry. I should have recognized the name, Jenny says, Brandon isn't one 1016 01:21:14,119 --> 01:21:15,560 of my favorite bands? After image? Yes, yes, all right, 1017 01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,680 welcome Brandon after Image of course has been on the show. Great great band. 1018 01:21:19,079 --> 01:21:21,479 Go back and check that episode in the archive if you didn't hear the 1019 01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:26,880 interview. Fantastic. Okay, So here's what it says here. Hey, 1020 01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:30,479 everyone, welcome back to SoundBite. It's another week of Spotify news, this 1021 01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:36,039 time with a royal family twist. Okay, what were Prince Harry's podcast ideas? 1022 01:21:38,359 --> 01:21:41,960 It says last week news broke that, like many of Spotify's high profile 1023 01:21:42,039 --> 01:21:45,159 podcast deals over the years, Megan Marco and Prince Harry's partnership with the Swedish 1024 01:21:45,199 --> 01:21:51,399 streamer is coming to an end. I didn't know Spotify was a Swedish company. 1025 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:56,159 My goodness. Are they in Nato yet or are we still trying to 1026 01:21:56,159 --> 01:22:00,800 make that happen? Are the ones where there's the issue? Where is at 1027 01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:05,720 Finland? Who's Turkey still mad at where they can't get in? I forget 1028 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:12,600 anyway. In a joint emailed statement, Spotify and Archwell Audio, marcol and 1029 01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:16,199 Harry's production company said they quote have mutually agreed to part ways and are proud 1030 01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:21,159 of the series we made together unquote Oh the twelve episode thing. It's not 1031 01:22:21,199 --> 01:22:25,359 a bad time to look back at the twenty twenty press release announcing the partnership, 1032 01:22:25,399 --> 01:22:30,960 which promised Marcol and Harry would produce and host podcasts and that the first 1033 01:22:30,119 --> 01:22:34,800 complete series was expected to debut in twenty twenty one. Ultimately, the relationship 1034 01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:41,000 only yielded one season of one show, arch of Types, which Marcol hosted 1035 01:22:41,079 --> 01:22:45,399 at, debuted in twenty twenty two. Hey listen, can I just throw 1036 01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:46,439 this out there? And I told you I have a lot of ideas. 1037 01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:51,640 I would like to hear Megan Markle to a podcast about her experience acting on 1038 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:57,600 the television series Suits. Megan Markle the only reason I ever knew who she 1039 01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:01,039 was before she married Prince Harry was because she played Rachel Zane on the show 1040 01:23:01,119 --> 01:23:04,560 Suits, which aired on the USA Network. I don't watch a lot of 1041 01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:08,520 television, but I was a big fan of that show. Beyond that, 1042 01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,279 I never really cared much about her, but a big fan of that show. 1043 01:23:11,319 --> 01:23:14,680 I think she should do a podcast about Suits. I think that'd be 1044 01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:16,920 fantastic. I mean, I don't think i'd actually bother to listen to it, 1045 01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,359 but it's just just an idea. But apparently the deal's already off, 1046 01:23:20,359 --> 01:23:26,000 so it says over the past week, more details have continued to emerge. 1047 01:23:26,399 --> 01:23:33,319 Fellow Spotify podcaster Bill Simmons took his eponymous show to call the couple grifters and 1048 01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:39,640 tease an absurd zoom call he once had with Harry about possible podcast ideas, 1049 01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:43,680 which he told listeners is one of his best stories, that said. Simmons 1050 01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:48,319 had previously criticized Harry in January twenty twenty three, saying he was so embarrassed 1051 01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:54,960 to be on Spotify with him. Wow, that'd be fascinating if you're in 1052 01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,760 that position. You know, you you're an executive at Spotify and you've you've 1053 01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,279 made a multimillion dollars deal with this person, and then you say you're so 1054 01:24:01,319 --> 01:24:05,560 embarrassed to be on the same platform as them. The dynamics of that are 1055 01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:14,319 fascinating to me. Yeah, Simmons at the time said, quote, what 1056 01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,000 does he do? It's one of those things where it's like, what's your 1057 01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,279 talent? Why are we listening to you? So you were born in a 1058 01:24:19,399 --> 01:24:24,880 royal family and then you left. You sell documentaries and podcasts and nobody cares 1059 01:24:25,199 --> 01:24:28,000 what you have to say about anything unless you talk about the royal family, 1060 01:24:28,119 --> 01:24:30,920 and you just complain about them unquote, although again, if his wife wants 1061 01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,399 to talk about suits, I would care about that, not enough to bother 1062 01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,359 to actually listen, though, so it probably doesn't count. Thanks to his 1063 01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:43,319 uncensored takes on the Prince's media skills or apparent lack thereof, Simmons has now 1064 01:24:43,399 --> 01:24:47,479 joined the upper ranks of Harry commentators to point that paparazzi, oh, I'm 1065 01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,880 sorry, to the point that paparazzi at the Daily Mail are snapping photos of 1066 01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:56,399 him walking in a parking garage. Really though, this got me wondering, 1067 01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:01,239 while there's been all this talk of Markle's podcast and what she did or didn't 1068 01:25:01,239 --> 01:25:05,439 produce, what happened to the potential Harry show. I spoke to people with 1069 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:11,319 knowledge of the situation about what idea, what ideas the Prince floated, and 1070 01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:15,079 why none of them ever came to fruition. They requested anonymity because they weren't 1071 01:25:15,119 --> 01:25:18,920 authorized to speak about his work. Spotify decline to comment. As at artwell 1072 01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:24,800 Audio, Harry spoke with multiple producers and production houses. These people said to 1073 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:29,560 discuss possible shows. Along the way, Harry listened to various ideas from others, 1074 01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,359 but mostly stuck to his own, including one about childhood trauma. The 1075 01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:40,239 concept Harry would interview a procession of controversial guests such as Vladimir Putin, Mark 1076 01:25:40,319 --> 01:25:45,600 Zuckerberg, and Donald Trump about their early formative years and how those experiences resulted 1077 01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:53,399 in the adults they are today. Not the worst idea. Harry also had 1078 01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:58,319 an idea. The people said, for a show centered on fatherhood. That 1079 01:25:58,399 --> 01:26:00,000 sounds boring, but I'm not a day. Maybe if I was a dad, 1080 01:26:00,039 --> 01:26:06,039 i'd like it. Another one would have tackled major societal conversations episode by 1081 01:26:06,079 --> 01:26:10,680 episode, ranging from climate change to religion. Oh my god, now that 1082 01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:15,479 would have been spectacular. What an original idea. Obviously I'm being sarcastic. 1083 01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:26,159 You know, there's literally a million other podcasts that do that. That's one 1084 01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:30,439 of the few statistics I actually have memorized. There's there's actually one million podcasts 1085 01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:34,960 it discuss that specifically. I mean, I'm rounding that number up a little 1086 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:39,359 bit. But for the latter, Harry hoped to have Pope Francis on as 1087 01:26:39,359 --> 01:26:44,680 a guest. Okay, so basically Harry's whole thing was he was gonna bring 1088 01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:49,720 on these really big and important guests. The practicality of these ideas struck some 1089 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:54,920 people in the Harry podcast cosmos as questionable at best, given that people like 1090 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:59,760 Putin and Zuckerberg rarely give wide ranging interviews about the topics they're passionate about, 1091 01:27:00,079 --> 01:27:06,239 let alone about their upbringings and personal childhood dramas. Yeah, I wouldn't even 1092 01:27:06,279 --> 01:27:11,880 want to be in a room with of Latimer Putin. Scott Robinson says, 1093 01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:15,199 Matt, you say sarcastic, I say cynical. In any case, no 1094 01:27:15,359 --> 01:27:20,039 podcast from Harry ever materialized. The difficulty of nailing down a workable idea and 1095 01:27:20,079 --> 01:27:25,680 actually recording a show over nearly three years of a production deal speaks to the 1096 01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:31,199 broader reckoning around celebrity driven content. Yeah, you know what's interesting. You 1097 01:27:31,199 --> 01:27:36,479 know what this reminds me of. So Spotify is one example where you see 1098 01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:42,760 this. Another is serious XM satellite radio, and I have satellite radio in 1099 01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,439 my car and I listen to Howard Stern something that I've heard Howard, and 1100 01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:49,079 I love my news channels. I love having access to news anytime I want 1101 01:27:49,079 --> 01:27:54,560 it, which is much of the time. But something Howard has complained about 1102 01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:59,680 over the years is the way that Sirius XM will give a celebrity, like, 1103 01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:01,960 Oh, he loves to complain about Oprah anyway, It's always been kind 1104 01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:04,680 of his thing. It's not like he hates her or anything. He likes 1105 01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:09,399 to complain about her, but just as an example. So, at one 1106 01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:15,279 point they made a deal with Oprah where they gave Oprah her own channel, 1107 01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,239 and they've they've done this with other celebrities too, But then the content on 1108 01:28:19,279 --> 01:28:26,399 the Oprah channel is barely any actual Oprah Oprah Winfrey. There's barely any of 1109 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:30,439 her on there, and it's just a lot of other content that people who 1110 01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:38,039 like Oprah might enjoy, but almost no actual Oprah. And Howard just is 1111 01:28:38,079 --> 01:28:44,119 amazed that that company would spend so much money to effectively license the name of 1112 01:28:44,159 --> 01:28:48,359 Oprah Winfrey without actually without her actually doing anything in terms of contributing content. 1113 01:28:49,239 --> 01:28:53,319 And on the rare occasion that she was going to do something, it was 1114 01:28:53,359 --> 01:28:56,560 a really big deal, but she was going to do like a thirty minute 1115 01:28:57,039 --> 01:29:00,359 This actually happened one time. In fact, this relates to childhood trauma. 1116 01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:04,680 She was going to be doing on the Oprah Channel, a thirty minute special 1117 01:29:05,119 --> 01:29:11,079 where she was going to be taking calls from listeners who would experienced childhood trauma 1118 01:29:11,159 --> 01:29:14,079 and talking with them and hearing their stories, and she's going to have a 1119 01:29:14,119 --> 01:29:18,239 psychologist, Sarah with her to help her for thirty minutes. Thirty minutes, 1120 01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,399 Like, who'd even bother to tune in for something that's only going to be 1121 01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:26,439 on for a half hour. And Howard was just a gast just could not 1122 01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:30,159 believe that that company spend all that money just to do something like that with 1123 01:29:30,199 --> 01:29:33,640 Oprah. And again there's other examples too, but but this is a thing 1124 01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:42,039 with these platforms, whether it's Spotify or sirius XM all right, a little 1125 01:29:42,039 --> 01:29:45,239 bit more to this article. It says the pandemic reduced work for movie stars 1126 01:29:45,239 --> 01:29:47,880 and others who typically fly around the world from project to project. Instead, 1127 01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:51,560 they were all stuck at home with plenty of time on their hands, which 1128 01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:57,239 is why for a while so many celebrities were signing podcast deals, even if 1129 01:29:57,279 --> 01:30:00,159 they didn't necessarily have a concrete, workable idea that could get made into a 1130 01:30:00,199 --> 01:30:06,720 show, let alone become a hit. These stars also maintained expectations for the 1131 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:13,359 kind of jumbo paychecks that were once reserved for movies, commercials and Las Vegas 1132 01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,399 club appearances. And we're not in any way typical of the podcast economy, 1133 01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:20,680 regardless, audio executives clamor to sign up a listers in the hopes they'd win 1134 01:30:21,119 --> 01:30:25,800 and secure a hit. The companies staffed up, and for a while it 1135 01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:29,199 felt like the momentum would never stop. But as we re emerge from that 1136 01:30:29,239 --> 01:30:34,479 time and both stars and norms go back to some semblance of their old routines, 1137 01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:39,840 we're seeing many of those earlier commitments fall by the wayside. In short, 1138 01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:45,479 the great celeb podcast boom is quickly going bust. Clearly, in retrospect, 1139 01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,800 many of these vastly expensive deals that never resulted in much of anything shouldn't 1140 01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:53,880 have been made, but the money was spent, and as cost cutting measures 1141 01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:58,800 continue to spread through the podcast industry, the ramifications of this misspending for everybody 1142 01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:02,920 else aren't entirely over yet. Just ask the many regular producers, editors, 1143 01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:08,359 and engineers who continue to lose their jobs. So that gives us a little 1144 01:31:08,359 --> 01:31:14,840 more insight into some of Prince Harry's ideas. It's I mean, it sounds 1145 01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:25,359 to me just obviously on the outside looking in, that you know, yeah, 1146 01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:29,720 ye had ideas. It's sometimes it's not a matter of you know, 1147 01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:34,000 I've fallen into this trap myself, and I think a lot of creative people 1148 01:31:34,039 --> 01:31:38,199 do. Sometimes it's not a matter of lacking ideas. Sometimes you can have 1149 01:31:38,239 --> 01:31:42,680 several ideas, but it's almost if you have too many ideas, it's hard 1150 01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:46,199 to commit to one. And if you don't commit to a single idea, 1151 01:31:46,279 --> 01:31:51,960 then you end up in this sort of paralyzed state where nothing happens because you 1152 01:31:53,039 --> 01:31:56,000 haven't you haven't chosen a path that you're going to go down, so you 1153 01:31:56,079 --> 01:31:58,520 end up just kind of standing there. You've got a bunch of ideas but 1154 01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:04,600 no action. Sometimes the hardest part is picking something, saying I'm going to 1155 01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:08,960 do that, this is my idea, this is the direction I'm going. 1156 01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:12,840 If you're spending you know, in business, they call it analysis paralysis, 1157 01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:15,880 where you don't make a decision because you're spending so much time trying to examine 1158 01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:20,319 all the options and perhaps second guessing yourself and over analyzing, and but you 1159 01:32:20,399 --> 01:32:26,600 end up just not deciding anything. It's like the line from that Rush song, 1160 01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:30,520 Uh, you know, I if you what is it? Even if 1161 01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:32,520 you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. I'm not 1162 01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:36,279 sure I said that right now. Whatever they're Canadian. If I'm gonna quote 1163 01:32:36,319 --> 01:32:43,399 somebody on the show, I should be quoting American bands, right America six 1164 01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:47,119 three two five six seven six three two five six Z seven. If you'd 1165 01:32:47,119 --> 01:32:53,199 like to get in with a very quick and terse call before we completely run 1166 01:32:53,239 --> 01:33:00,039 out of time on today's program, there was something, there was something very 1167 01:33:00,239 --> 01:33:11,159 brief that we could do. Let's do this. Governor, former governor of 1168 01:33:11,199 --> 01:33:15,920 New Jersey, Chris Christie, was in New Hampshire campaigning as he often. 1169 01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,479 I think he basically lives here now. Actually I think he's here a lot, 1170 01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:20,840 you know, at least until such time. I mean, I don't 1171 01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:27,960 think he has any kind of a chance. But one of the things about 1172 01:33:28,039 --> 01:33:30,439 Chris Christie, and you know, we've talked about this on the show with 1173 01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:32,079 our friend Eric Pilcher, who will be back soon by the way, if 1174 01:33:32,079 --> 01:33:35,199 you're wondering about his film reviews and everything, he's he's taking a little break 1175 01:33:35,239 --> 01:33:41,119 because he's got some family stuff to deal with. But he will be back, 1176 01:33:41,159 --> 01:33:45,359 I promise. But Eric Pilcher, my favorite Conservatives as I like to 1177 01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:50,960 talk, as I like to say about him, he um, he's actually 1178 01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:58,359 endorsed Chris Christie. I don't endorse candidates myself, except for Jerry Robinson, 1179 01:33:58,399 --> 01:34:01,079 of course, for Savior of real rock and roll music. That's an exception, 1180 01:34:01,079 --> 01:34:06,960 because Jerry Robinson is just extremely impressive. But there was something I've noticed 1181 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:10,880 about Chris Christie though, and Eric and I talked about this on the show 1182 01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:15,319 recently, is that. And I think I dare say I think our conversation 1183 01:34:15,359 --> 01:34:20,600 about this might have contributed in some way to him ultimately deciding to endorse Chris 1184 01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:27,439 Christie. You see a lot of well, you take Governor ron to Santis 1185 01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:30,640 for example, he's kind of the extreme of this. But if you ask 1186 01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,399 a Governor Ron to Santis in a media appearance, why is he running for 1187 01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:36,039 president? The first thing out of his mouth, literally the first thing out 1188 01:34:36,039 --> 01:34:40,159 of his mouth is he talks about how we have to defend I'm sorry, 1189 01:34:40,239 --> 01:34:44,560 not defend. We have to defeat wokeism. And it's very important to defend 1190 01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:50,840 defeat wokeism and leftism and the LGBTQ plus agenda and all of it is just 1191 01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:55,239 so terrible and we have to defeat it, you know, he'd And meanwhile, 1192 01:34:55,279 --> 01:34:58,680 of course, if you're maybe a moderate Republican sitting there staring at your 1193 01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:00,920 electric bill going, How am I going to? Hey this it's double what 1194 01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:02,520 it was last year at this time. That might not be the first thing 1195 01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:05,479 on your list of priorities, but it is the first thing on Rhoda Santis's 1196 01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:09,720 mind. And you have a lot of other Republican candidates who don't take it 1197 01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:13,000 to the extreme that DeSantis does, but they do talk about that stuff a 1198 01:35:13,039 --> 01:35:15,479 lot. They're very much into the culture war stuff. Nicki Haley certainly is, 1199 01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:19,159 and others. Chris Christie, interestingly, one of the ways that he's 1200 01:35:19,199 --> 01:35:23,800 distinguished himself, aside from the fact that he's not afraid of Donald Trump and 1201 01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:27,680 not afraid to directly take him on, is he also doesn't seem to be 1202 01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:33,199 particularly interested in the culture war stuff, and he's not interested in, you 1203 01:35:33,239 --> 01:35:41,640 know, attacking trans people and all of it. And in fact, and 1204 01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:47,000 this actually surprised me. So again, a lot of these uh Republican candidates, 1205 01:35:47,199 --> 01:35:50,840 uh, you know, they're they're always well again. DeSantis in Florida 1206 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:56,600 signed a bill no more gender affirming care, I think for anybody, right, 1207 01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:00,840 but Chris Christie, in my view, he's the want a Republican that 1208 01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:04,479 really stands out on this issue. He has asked about this very subject by 1209 01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:10,920 Brian Kilmeade on Fox News, and this is just only a minute, but 1210 01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:15,039 I just want to share with you Chris Christie's answer because I must tell you 1211 01:36:16,399 --> 01:36:19,239 this guy, in my view, knocks it out of the park with what 1212 01:36:19,279 --> 01:36:21,319 he has to say. And I love what he has to say here. 1213 01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:25,920 And if we had more time on the show today, we could really dig 1214 01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:28,680 in on this. But I'll just share this and maybe we'll pick this up 1215 01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:31,680 on Monday. But listen, here's the question and answer. Listen to this 1216 01:36:32,359 --> 01:36:36,680 where he's doing quite well, already making an impact. Governor, your thoughts 1217 01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:41,640 about the posh in Florida and Arkansas to make it illegal to do it for 1218 01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:45,560 kids under eighteen, Brian, you know, I just don't want to see 1219 01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:51,199 our government getting more more intrusive in everybody's life, getting bigger. I don't 1220 01:36:51,199 --> 01:36:56,520 think anything can replace parents when you're talking about major decisions that are need to 1221 01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:59,119 be made by our children. And I would say this, I want all 1222 01:36:59,159 --> 01:37:01,640 parents out there to think about something. How many other decisions do you want 1223 01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:08,560 the government making for you in your home regarding your kids. I don't want 1224 01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:11,920 any of those decisions made by the government. Parents are the ones who love 1225 01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:15,479 their children the most, who care about their children the most, who understand 1226 01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:17,680 their children the most, and parents should be the ones making these decisions. 1227 01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,319 So if a fourteen year old comes home and says, I really want to 1228 01:37:20,319 --> 01:37:28,880 start switching genders, that's the parent's decision. Absolutely, I'll tell you it's 1229 01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,199 more of a parent's decision than is a governor's decision. For goodness, Saints 1230 01:37:31,239 --> 01:37:36,279 Brian, you really think that Sarah Huckabee Sanders should be making this decision for 1231 01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:41,000 children in Arkansas. I love Sarah. I think she's a great person and 1232 01:37:41,079 --> 01:37:44,159 a really good governor. But I don't think she would ever allow the government 1233 01:37:44,199 --> 01:37:49,680 to substitute her judgment as a mother for their judgment. And that's what I'm 1234 01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:55,039 saying. I would want any government official coming in and telling me what decisions 1235 01:37:55,079 --> 01:37:58,319 I can help my child through and how I should do it, and I 1236 01:37:58,399 --> 01:38:00,960 want those decisions to be made by not by the government. All right, 1237 01:38:01,039 --> 01:38:05,439 let's switch in. I think that is a fantastic answer, And by the 1238 01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:11,000 way, it would seem to me, there is a conservative principle rooted in 1239 01:38:11,039 --> 01:38:14,399 that. Is there not the idea that, you know, keep the government 1240 01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:18,239 out of decisions that are being made in my family. Keep the government out 1241 01:38:18,279 --> 01:38:24,119 of decisions that I'm making with my kids or that I'm and my partner are 1242 01:38:24,119 --> 01:38:28,800 making with our kids. That's none of the government's business. And I think 1243 01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:31,439 he gave a very smart and sophisticated answer to that, and it really puts 1244 01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:38,439 him at odds in addition to, of course his willingness to take on Trump 1245 01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:44,359 and not cower like a supplicant like Mike Pence. Does you know, except 1246 01:38:44,359 --> 01:38:48,640 for those rare occasions when he can actually manage to uh find some cojones, 1247 01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:57,039 if I may use that term, it's Friday. So I just think that's 1248 01:38:57,079 --> 01:39:00,079 an excellent answer, and listen, I have a lot of Again, I 1249 01:39:00,079 --> 01:39:03,199 I'm not on the Chris Chris you know, Chris Christy bandwagon, but you 1250 01:39:03,279 --> 01:39:06,800 know I like the more moderate voices in the Republican Party. That's why. 1251 01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:10,000 You know, people ask me, why do you cling to Sinunu. That's 1252 01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:12,960 why, because I don't hear so Nunu. You know, if you talk 1253 01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,039 to Chris and Nunu, he's not you know, the first thing out of 1254 01:39:15,039 --> 01:39:16,640 his mouth is, well, we need to do something about these trans people, 1255 01:39:18,119 --> 01:39:21,600 you know, like does Santas just does Santa seems psychotic to me, 1256 01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:27,960 to be honest with you, Um, I don't even really know what Trump's 1257 01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,720 position is on any of that. I did think it was funny. H 1258 01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,720 You know, if you're a regular listener, you know I'm no fan of 1259 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,359 Trump, but I did think it was funny a couple of weeks ago when 1260 01:39:36,359 --> 01:39:40,000 Trump said, you know, de Santas, he's always talking about woke, 1261 01:39:40,079 --> 01:39:43,680 woke quoke quoke, like anybody even knows what that actually means. I don't 1262 01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:45,880 know what that means, and it was kind of funny. But anyway, 1263 01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:50,199 so we will end with that. Oh, Davids uh dismukes in the chat 1264 01:39:50,239 --> 01:39:54,840 ram says Chris CHRISTI collapsed I ninety five in Philly when he got out of 1265 01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:58,560 his car. Oh that's well, that's that's mean. That's kind of clever. 1266 01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:02,000 But but it's mean. But uh, it's sometimes we're sometimes we're mean. 1267 01:40:02,079 --> 01:40:06,960 I don't mind mean humor, but hey, you know, he could 1268 01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:09,760 be uh, he could be the No, I'm kidding, he's not going 1269 01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:13,920 to be the nominee. But but I'm ninety five. By the way, 1270 01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:18,000 just really quickly before we go, I can't believe what a triumph of infrastructure. 1271 01:40:18,079 --> 01:40:21,560 That is, they've already got it reopened. I don't know if it's 1272 01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:28,479 completely reopened. But when that collapse happened and the governor said we're gonna get 1273 01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:31,600 this opened in a couple of weeks, I said, that's no. Come 1274 01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:36,359 on, you know you wanna you wanna under promise and over deliver, not 1275 01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:41,720 the other way around. No, they it's open. It's open. It's 1276 01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:44,399 just incredible, very very impressive. All Right, we gotta go. We 1277 01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:46,960 are absolutely out of time. Please don't forget tonight. I will be back 1278 01:40:47,279 --> 01:40:53,199 for retro Spectrum Radio with Policy from eight to eleven PM tonight. Always look 1279 01:40:53,239 --> 01:40:57,880 forward to that. Don't forget tomorrow morning. Of course, from seven to 1280 01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:02,119 nine am you have the Morning Show with Peter White On Saturday's Peter runs usually 1281 01:41:02,159 --> 01:41:05,119 a classic episode of the Morning Show, or it might be something more recent, 1282 01:41:05,199 --> 01:41:09,960 just an episode that he selects it he really likes. And then immediately 1283 01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:13,479 after that, from nine to eleven am, you have the best of Matt 1284 01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:15,039 Connerton unleashed. I still need to produce some new ones of those. I 1285 01:41:15,039 --> 01:41:19,319 know. I say that every every day. I say that, Actually first 1286 01:41:19,319 --> 01:41:21,399 thing I say when I wake up in the morning. I need to produce 1287 01:41:21,399 --> 01:41:24,760 some more of those. No, I really do though, I really do. 1288 01:41:25,159 --> 01:41:30,000 But let's see tonight at the Hopknot. They've got big gay bingo it's 1289 01:41:30,039 --> 01:41:34,399 for a good cause and DJ Reckless is at the Soho tonight in the main 1290 01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:38,439 room. H And if you miss any part for today's show it we'll be 1291 01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,960 up in just a little bit at WMH radio dot organ at my website Matt 1292 01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:45,359 Connerton dot com. Trudy from the Hopknot will be here with us on Monday 1293 01:41:45,399 --> 01:41:47,920 and studio. That's it for us for now. Uh yeah, we are 1294 01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:50,359 out of time, but we'll leave you with a little bit of day to 1295 01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:55,840 attend great track from from that band, and I will talk to y'all a 1296 01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:56,960 little bit later. By everybody,