WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:04.519 This is a downbeat on ninety seven to one the freak. It is the 2 00:00:04.519 --> 00:00:10.759 Downbeat. Nine oh five is the time, Wednesday, October eighteenth. Appreciate 3 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:13.560 you listen. We've got an hour left in the show Hot Mop coming up 4 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:18.480 at nine to thirty. Your talkbacks via the iHeartRadio app. Here's a microphone 5 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:21.320 on the bottom right hand side. If you want to hit that and leave 6 00:00:21.399 --> 00:00:25.239 up to thirty seconds whatever you want to say, Kat compiles those. We 7 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:30.079 let you rate the program today or spill whatever it is that's on your mind 8 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:33.119 to us. We'll play those in about a half an hour or so. 9 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:37.119 So all eyes on Arlington, Texas this evening. We got Ranger baseball. 10 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:41.479 Max Sure's are taking the Mound Rangers leading to zip over the Astros unbelievable. 11 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:45.119 But the eyes of the world are also on the state of Texas because we 12 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:50.159 have Formula one racing down in Austin. It's the United States Grand Prix at 13 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:54.679 Circuit of the America's. The next four F one races are actually in the 14 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:58.719 Americas. We have Austin and Mexico City and then Brazil and then a week 15 00:00:58.759 --> 00:01:03.079 off and then the inaugural race in Las Vegas and I really hope this is 16 00:01:03.120 --> 00:01:07.359 gonna work. We will see in one second, because I would like to 17 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:10.959 welcome to the program a couple of guys who are joining us. They are 18 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:14.560 on the late breaking Formula one podcast. I believe they live in London. 19 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:18.480 I listen to their podcast religiously. I find them very funny, and they 20 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:21.719 have traveled all the way to Sweet Texas. They're in Austin, Texas right 21 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:23.959 now. I don't know if they can hear me, Sam Sage, Ben 22 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:27.120 Hawking, Hello, Hello, do you have us? I see them on 23 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:32.439 zoom and it does not appear they are hearing our voices. Hello, Testing 24 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:40.799 one? Two? No, Hey you hear us? Yeah? Yeah? 25 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:44.959 They don't have on headphones though, Can you guys hear us? Hello? 26 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:48.959 Hello? Let's just listen to BRIT's talk and get ready to dump them if 27 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:55.359 we need to. It's real cool. That's a whole podcast. They're wearing 28 00:01:55.400 --> 00:02:00.239 headphones earlier, because I don't think they can hear us headphones? Did it? 29 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:07.200 Don't anyone anyone? Hello? Hello? We should have we should have 30 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:14.919 dueling podcasts. Hey guys, Hey guys, can you hear us? Hello? 31 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:20.560 It's flood off? Try yelling louder and Kevio. Hey, guys, 32 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:22.560 give you hear that here? I just text him. So look, he's 33 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:29.080 pulling out his phone. He's looking at his phone. Okay, they're ready. 34 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:35.319 Okay, now we can't hear them. Hey do they need headphone? 35 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:39.319 Okay. He's turning things, checking settings. We can't see you audio on 36 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:47.840 checking check check check check. Hello, Hello, Hello. We decided we 37 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:51.759 just did a lovely introduction, by the way, and you missed the whole 38 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:55.639 thing. I'm not doing it again. I trust it was. It was 39 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:00.039 incredible. I had Statman references in there. It was per perfect. But 40 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:02.719 then we brought you up and you couldn't hear us, but we could hear 41 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:07.360 you discussing factor crap. So we're like, let's just listen to Britz che 42 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:12.039 Oh. Yeah, we're balancing the laptop on the board game or whatever gaming 43 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:14.919 is called fact or crap. We've never played. We think we might bring 44 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:15.960 it onto the podcast. There you go. Well, if you interview us 45 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:19.439 poorly, just open it up and pull some cards out and we'll play a 46 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:22.719 quick round of factor crap and we'll figure out if it works or not. 47 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:27.800 Great. How are you game? We're doing awesome? Sam again, Sam 48 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:32.120 Sage and Ben Hawking from the Late Breaking Formula one podcast, and we had 49 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:35.800 Sam on about a year ago. It was just this week to sort of 50 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:39.680 preview the United States Grand Prix down at CODA. And last year you're on 51 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:44.280 the phone from I believe London, England. But this year you guys are 52 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:49.240 sitting comfortably in an Airbnb in Austin, Texas. Correct. Correct, We 53 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:53.800 are in northern Austin at the moment we meet him McNeil and we are enjoying 54 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:57.960 the sunny rays of Texas has been really nice. Yeah, it's unnatural. 55 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:01.879 Our British skins can't code. Where's the rain? Yeah, we don't have 56 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:04.639 a camera in here, but we can see you. And Danny, my 57 00:04:04.680 --> 00:04:10.039 co host, was like, wow, look how British they look. Yeah, 58 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:13.080 yeah, pretty much the standard two guys you could think of that look 59 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:15.759 like English. Do the tea comes out of the face, you know? 60 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:20.279 We Yeah, you were a sweating tea. So I'm a big fan of 61 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:23.759 your podcast again, Late Breaking F one podcast. I think you guys are 62 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:26.120 hilarious. I listen to you every week. I really enjoy it. That's 63 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:28.000 why we wanted to have you on last year. And I'm like, screw 64 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:30.759 it. They're coming to Austin this year. Let me ask, do you 65 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:32.759 guys do an annual left one trip? Why Austin? Have you ever been 66 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:36.720 to Texas before? We don't. We've never done a proper F one trip, 67 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:40.519 have we. Yeah, so we decided the first one obviously go across 68 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:43.480 the whole Atlantic to do it. You know, start small and work up 69 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:46.560 from there. But yeah, this is a bit of a first time round 70 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:50.160 certainly something we're looking to do more often. The reason why we chose Austin 71 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:56.560 is because you lovely Texans are actually our largest demographic of listeners in the world, 72 00:04:56.839 --> 00:05:00.800 Bigger than England, bigger than Europe, and the highest percentage America makes 73 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:04.079 up o biggest population of listeners. Texas is number one. Holy crap, 74 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:08.040 And now what I wonder why that is? Yeah? Have you done the 75 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:10.800 analytics and figure that out? Is just because F one's blowing up here the 76 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:15.319 last few years or how does that work? Fascination of the accent? Yeah, 77 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:18.160 just silly crazy, and you Texans just seemed to get that. Yeah, 78 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:21.360 I mean that's why we have you on. Let's be honest, just 79 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:26.639 say funny stuff. Maybe our ratings will go up A silly voice. Yeah, 80 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:29.560 maybe we need to start using the British accent and our ratings will go 81 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:31.720 up. We know all of our works. It'll be great in London. 82 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:35.240 Did you do that? That'll be huge in London. I know Norm from 83 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:40.480 Texas is a regular discord user for you guys. So if you guys are 84 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:44.759 in town, you have a live podcast broadcast? Is that tomorrow? And 85 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:46.480 I don't know pub that because we do have a handful of Austin listeners. 86 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:51.160 Yeah, we'll do our normal preview episode for a Grand Prix, but it 87 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:56.920 will happen yeah, tomorrow with a live audience, which is equal parts exciting 88 00:05:57.160 --> 00:06:00.439 and absolutely terrifying. That's another first for us. But yeah, we've got 89 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:05.439 a good crowd coming along. We were absolutely baffled at how quickly it's sold 90 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:10.399 out, so twenty four hours. Yeah, massively excited for it. If 91 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:12.600 you turn up to listen, you know, if you want to go on 92 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:15.639 Spotify or iTunes or if you get your podcasts to have a listen. We 93 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:17.199 do all sorts of stuff, so we talk serious stuff about them, normal 94 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:21.240 topics, We do our race predictions, and then we also have a number 95 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:26.639 of very silly but factually correct formula one game. So if you're new to 96 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:29.439 the sport or want to learn or play along or have a laugh, then 97 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:31.199 we do loads of silly games like f one back and forth. We're making 98 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:34.600 a big appearance on the show this week that soundstanding here. Are you guys 99 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:40.279 are music fans? Of course? Obviously? Do you guys have some pretty 100 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:44.160 good entertainment this week? For the Arston Race they have The Killers Friday night 101 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:46.959 and then Queen is playing Saturday night. You're going to catch any of that 102 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:50.160 stuff? Yeah? Yeah, we're there for and we've got toi Esta on 103 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:54.439 the Sunday. They are three artists that I have always wanted to see and 104 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:56.959 never thought I would get to see you Now it's all rolled up into one 105 00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:00.480 big fat Texas Grand Prix. Yeah between us, I don't think you could 106 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:04.000 have put together a better lineup for us and we love it. Yeah yeah. 107 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:08.120 Any fans are the Killers? Yeah yeah, they crossed were young, 108 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:13.000 They crossed over really well Overseas secret show tonight at Emos. Tickets go on 109 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.319 selling about forty eight minutes. Just a pro tip if you want to see 110 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:20.480 them in an intimate venue tonight. We've only got to pick up Harry later, 111 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:23.720 so you know, there's nothing else to do because he turns up. 112 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:26.680 If he turns up. How long have you guys been in the state. 113 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:31.319 When did you arrive? So we arrived Monday afternoons, so not all that 114 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:35.360 long. We're very much over the chat lag now, so we've we've sorted 115 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:41.240 that out and we've settled them. Okay, so we're here till Wednesday morning, 116 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:44.759 Tuesday evenings when we kind of leave and we're we're we're glad we get 117 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:46.240 to spend so long here. Actually we didn't want to rush it. So 118 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:50.399 what did you do on your I guess you had maybe after recovering from jet 119 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:54.480 lag, you had yesterday to kind of goof around. Did you get in 120 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:58.959 anything? And what was your kind of your first impression of this ridiculous state 121 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:05.360 that we live in? Big cars? Big cars? That was just a 122 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:09.160 number one say. We actually went to we went to the circuit of the 123 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:13.480 America's yesterday and had had a look around. We were lucky enough to go 124 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:16.399 in the pit lane, take a trip around the track, do some do 125 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:20.480 some recording at turn one, which is just absolutely epic. It was. 126 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:26.040 It was basically two hours of pinch yourself. One Earth's going on. Yeah, 127 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:28.759 I'm pretty amazed that they let this stupid English cowboy stand in the starter 128 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:33.360 box and shout yeha across the start finish line. But it was great fun, 129 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:37.360 and then we got treated to a wonderful full plate of barbecue for lunchtime. 130 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:41.600 We had brisket, we had ribs, we had sausage. It was 131 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:45.080 some of the best, maybe the best meat I've ever just put us to 132 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:46.720 shape. It was so good. That's amazing because one of my I was 133 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:50.159 telling these guys yesterday when I found out that you that that Mikey had secured 134 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:56.360 this interview, that one of my favorite things to do is when these viral 135 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:01.159 videos on my Facebook feed come on and it's these group but she's like two 136 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:07.000 or three Brits, and it's them in America reviewing American food that they've never 137 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:11.120 had for the first time, and when they get to barbecue. It's incredible 138 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:16.039 to watch the orgasmic delight that they have when they stuff their mouths full of 139 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:18.519 these smoky, succulent meats and they're like, oh my god, I love 140 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:22.879 this country. We don't have anything back there like that kind of like your 141 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:28.240 experience, Well, we're so used to things like a pie, and no 142 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:31.720 disrespect to the pie. It's an amazing big of food. Don't When we 143 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:35.240 do barbecue, for example, we'll have like a burnt singular sausage in a 144 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:41.159 cold garden. I am back at home shivering over a single file while we 145 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:43.480 eat it. And you come here and you have this meat that just so 146 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:48.200 easily falls away from the bone with such flavor, no source needed, because 147 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:50.840 it's got so much richness to it. Immediately I was blown away. I 148 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:54.759 really thought I was gonna go. I don't get the hype, but I 149 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:56.840 get the hype. It was incredible. It was pretty much a case of 150 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:00.519 yeah, that'll do us for the week, pretty much, only any more 151 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:03.759 food now, that's great. Yeah, I give it a few more hours, 152 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:05.039 though, and you'll be back at it. When I went to London, 153 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:09.039 I try to check, you know, whatever trip advised, where should 154 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:11.240 I go? You know, there's no real great source. And I imagine 155 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:15.200 you guys did the same. So barbecue had to be one of the first 156 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:18.159 boxes you wanted to check on your Texas adventure, other than racing, which 157 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:22.000 we will get to in a second. What are their boxes need check in? 158 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:24.440 We're going to shoot guns out in the field somewhere, what else. 159 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:28.080 We have a little part of me that would love to would love to fire 160 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:33.120 off some rifles. But I'm also equally terrified coming so alien to asked for 161 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:35.960 being in the UK, like guns as a whole. So I actually haven't 162 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.759 seen one yet. I thought I would have seen a gun by Yeah. 163 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:43.200 The day that Sam the gun is the day I go back to the UK. 164 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:48.440 Yeah that's no, it's not maldly terrifying, that's utterly terrifying. Yeah. 165 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:50.679 Yeah, it's a coin flip. Let's for your ill. Yeah, 166 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:54.159 from from the crime shows that I binge on on Acorn and brit box. 167 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:58.879 Your cops don't even get to carry guns. No. The only only police 168 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:03.720 that get guns are around national landmarks like Buckingham Palace or if they are airport 169 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:07.320 security. They're the only times you get any kind of firearm in the UK. 170 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:11.639 All right, So that was Danny just talking and he just found out 171 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:16.159 on some website. No, my mom did our genealogy. I've gone my 172 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.159 entire life thinking I was like seventy five percent Irish, and it turns out 173 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:26.320 that I am almost entirely My grandparents derived from the UK, from Great Britain, 174 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:31.679 whole life. I'm fifty five years old and I find out what I'm 175 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:37.799 not Irish. I'm English, Holy crap and Fleetwood at every golf tournament and 176 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:41.120 he loves lambdo Norris. When it comes to car racing, all he does 177 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:46.240 is act British now and act well, we apologize for your history because it's 178 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:48.519 it's dull and cold. Well do you know where in we're in England? 179 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:54.480 Because we will judge you. No, not specifically. We're still We're furthering 180 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:58.279 our research to get more specific. Okay next year when we come back on 181 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:00.320 next year, you need to tell us and then we can give you. 182 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:03.799 Well, give you a roasting. I love it where you'm I love it. 183 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.679 I love it. But he is addicted to British crime television shows. 184 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:11.639 We're not doing this for more than ninety seconds, but fires a titler do 185 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:13.159 what is a top boy? He won't show. I mean top Boys my 186 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:18.639 number one, but Happy Valley's probably number two. I just started, Uh 187 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:22.559 let's see. I just finished Shetland and now I'm off to Sherwood, which 188 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:26.679 is incredible. But I have a friend that's a ridiculous Anglo file and I'm 189 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:28.960 a huge fan of Top Boy, and I was like, hey, can 190 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:31.480 you give me a list? She gave me a list of like fifteen things, 191 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:35.600 and I think I've binged them all. Subscribe to Acorn, subscribe to 192 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:39.120 brit Box, donated money to PBS so I can watch their content for free. 193 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:43.960 So it's basically all I do is watch baseball and and freaking British crime 194 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:54.000 dramas diagrama that. Yeah, it's a mess. It's filmed relatively Gear, 195 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:58.720 where I used to live, and it's surprisingly accurate. Actually it's kind of 196 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:01.440 terrifying Top Boy, but it is. It's a good show, really really 197 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:05.720 good show. You don't want to find yourself fair in real life? Right, 198 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:09.080 all right? This is Sam Sage and Ben Hawking of the F one 199 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:13.559 Late Breaking podcast. I'm a big fan of theirs. I listened to multiple 200 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:18.000 podcasts a week that they drop. And you're in town for the Formula one 201 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:20.120 race, so I got a nerd out with you for a few minutes. 202 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:22.960 I know you guys are good with that. I'll start with a real easy 203 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:24.039 one, and again, some of this is catered to listeners who, like 204 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:28.200 F one, aren't quite psychos about it, you know, maybe have never 205 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:31.320 been to a race. But we are in a season of pure dominance from 206 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:35.679 Red Bull and Max for Stapping and you guys are kind of experts on this. 207 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:39.919 I mean, is this Max for Stapping season the most dominant of all 208 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:45.240 time? And if not, we're how close is it? It's up there. 209 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.000 It's one of those where it becomes more difficult to compare it, certainly 210 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:52.320 year to year, but definitely decades to a decade, because you'll look back 211 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:56.360 at some of the late eighties years and look at those as some really dominant 212 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:58.919 years for the likes of for the likes of McLaren. But certainly what the 213 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:05.440 Stappen is doing here over the longest season of all time, it's just the 214 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:09.679 pure consistency race to race. You can go back to the fifties and sixties 215 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:13.279 and say, well, statistically, percentage wise, there might be a year 216 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:16.159 that it's more dominant, but also any raced eight times a year, whereas 217 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:20.240 the Stappens doing almost three times that this year. So it is it's not 218 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:24.639 necessarily unprecedented, I would say, but it's absolutely up there if you're going 219 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.440 to make a list. And what is also incredibly fascinating about what the Stapping 220 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:31.559 is doing is it's not just driver that's importantly forming one. Of course, 221 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:35.600 it's the car that makes the difference as well. And whilst there have been 222 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:39.960 more dominant cars historically in terms of wing percentage throughout the year, you look 223 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:43.519 at how McClaren back in the eighties, the MP four dash Forward is still 224 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.720 pretty much up there as the most successful car of all time over one season. 225 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:52.039 But for stapping is so much more dominant than it's teammates, then it 226 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:56.240 just shows that maybe the car itself was incredibly good in the wrong hands, 227 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:00.240 cannot pull out the results that that guy is able to pull out, can 228 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:03.759 we out? He's driving at a whole other level right now. It's incredibly 229 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:09.200 impressive. My lady friend is a massive Sergio Perez fan and she was going 230 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:11.360 to jump in here for the interview, but she's on the next show, 231 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:13.639 so she's prepping. But she will yell at me if I don't ask the 232 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:18.000 state of Checho Perez right now, because like you said, I mean, 233 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:22.919 he's got what should be the best car on the grid and he I think 234 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:26.440 I heard your most recent podcast has been in Q three less than fifty percent 235 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:31.519 of the times this year or something is checko in hot water for next year. 236 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:37.879 I mean he's crumbling. Right. In most instances, you'd say, 237 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:43.120 because he's got a contract secure for next year, there's no problems whatsoever. 238 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:46.720 But this is Red Bull, so I'm not quite sure. Yeah, if 239 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:48.960 they if they wanted him to go, he'd go. But yeah, he's 240 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:52.679 still second place in the championship, so in that respect, he's doing what 241 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:56.320 he needs to do. I think the problem for them is it's not anywhere 242 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:00.159 near as comfortable as they'd like it to be. The season started out well 243 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:03.240 enough for him. He won two of the first five races, and at 244 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:07.799 that point it was after Miami there was barely anything to choose between Perez and 245 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:11.799 the stap and points wise, but from then on out, the Stappan has 246 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:17.840 just been on another level, whereas Perez has constantly failed to delivering qualifying, 247 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:21.000 which is just leaving him too much to do on Sunday. Yeah, he 248 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:23.399 is, like we said, their great stat pool from fifty percent of Q 249 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:27.240 three, which in that car is a real shame. His mindset is clearly 250 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:30.039 crumbling as the season goes on, and the worst part is what he started 251 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:33.799 so well. You hope with that motivation behind him, I continue at least 252 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:37.960 that level of performance or what's stepped it up, and it is descended from 253 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:41.360 Miami pretty much to where we are now. And with Red Bull, they're 254 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:45.600 so historically ruthless that don't count out a change before the end of the season 255 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:48.600 come winter break time December, there might be an immediate cut. You don't 256 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:52.879 know. There's rumors floating around that he might be considering retirement at the end 257 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:55.639 of this year. It is all still up in the air despite him having 258 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:59.240 a contract. Are you were you saying I'm going to play f one fool 259 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:00.559 here for a second. Are you saying that when he's in trouble or at 260 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:04.680 risk that he could like get get relegated like you would in the EPL, 261 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:12.519 like maybe West brom I. I always saw Sergio Perez as the West Bromwich 262 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:18.319 Alba. He's a real bad things ever been saying about, No doubt that's 263 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:25.880 more insulting than anything I point. I mean relegated. Yeah, I think 264 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:29.240 I think he's too far don in his career for them to consider bringing him 265 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:32.720 down to Alpha TOWERI, which has been happening beforehand. Yeah, because they 266 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:34.559 did that with Pierre Gasli a few years back, where he was in Red 267 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:37.960 Bull. They put him back down to tour rosso as it was back then. 268 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:41.720 But Alpha Towers we know them now, you know that was that that 269 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:47.359 made sense. But he was much younger, he still had development, whereas 270 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:52.000 Perez is well into his thirties. I don't think that maybe three or four 271 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:55.799 drivers most who are older than it now. So yeah, it's tough to 272 00:17:55.839 --> 00:17:59.000 see him. It's something that could do, but I don't know what the 273 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:02.000 benefit would be at this point. All right, these are my boys from 274 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:03.759 the Late Breaking podcast. We only have two or three or four minutes left, 275 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:07.480 so I'm gonna kind of speed round. We'll go back in fourth. 276 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:11.039 First one I'll give to Ben long run of dominance for Mercedes with mainly Lewis 277 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:14.960 and then one incredibly close year and now it appears to be the era of 278 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:18.759 Red Bull. How long can this go for? And is this a bit 279 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:22.640 of a nightmare for f one for as new fans are still flooding in and 280 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:26.680 now you have just everyone getting smacked and they're racing for a second until the 281 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:30.480 new power unit regulations come in in twenty twenty six, you could definitely see 282 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:34.440 Red Bull being dominant next year and the year after that, it is troublesome 283 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:38.440 for F one. They brought in the cost cap for a reason, and 284 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:41.799 that was to bring more parity to the sport, which I'm you know, 285 00:18:42.359 --> 00:18:47.279 trying to get something closer to you know, the NBA or the NFL, 286 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:51.400 like something that is far more parity driven, and at the moment it's not 287 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:52.680 happening. So it is a bit of a headache for them, all right, 288 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:56.519 Sam McLaren heart right now. For whatever, If you had to pick 289 00:18:56.559 --> 00:19:00.839 the next team to win a Constructors Championship other than Red Bull, who's your 290 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:06.359 money on? And when I mean, if we're going on form base McLaren 291 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:08.799 other boys, I think their driver pairing is close to becoming one of the 292 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:12.200 best on form on the whole grid, but it's so hard to look behind 293 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:17.480 Mesagi's. Despite having a couple bad years with their technical know how, the 294 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:19.880 lineup that they've got I still think is the best overall lineup in Formula One, 295 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:22.480 and I do believe that the likes of Toto Wharf will be able to 296 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:26.440 bring back the overall team to the top level. Let's just hope that they 297 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:30.960 sacrifice the end of this year to maximize development. On twenty twenty four and 298 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:33.119 then they can actually bring back, hopefully a race winging car. So I 299 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:37.440 would go in mercees overall McLaren on current form all right for either of both 300 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:40.559 of you. We got the first American on the grid in like eight years 301 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:42.920 with Logan Sergeant. He's driving for Williams. I was kind of excited to 302 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:47.480 keep an eye on it, but I'm getting some Latifi vibes that scare me 303 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:51.160 quite a bit. Should I be worried about the young American? And then 304 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:55.400 bigger question, why aren't Americans very good at the F one? Apparently? 305 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:02.519 I'd say from Sergeant's perspective, he's clear of Latifi. I think it's better 306 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:07.680 than Latifi. But if that's the benchmark, that's not great. So you 307 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:11.680 know, he's Hopefully he gets a bit more time the rest of this season 308 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:14.599 to develop. Whether they give him a second season or not remain to be 309 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:17.519 seen. He had a pretty good junior career, so we know he can 310 00:20:17.640 --> 00:20:21.079 drive, but something just isn't clicking at the moment. The reason why we're 311 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:23.440 not getting so many great young American talents coming through to Formula one as well 312 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:29.039 is the junior programs aren't very well connected in motorsports. So if you're coming 313 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:32.480 up through the junior ranks in the US, you're more likely to get poached 314 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:36.039 by someone and going indie indie lights something like that, Whereas you need to 315 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:40.319 make a lot of sacrifice. You essentially come over to Europe and move into 316 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:41.599 F four, F three, F two, and then you get the right 317 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:45.160 super points on your license, because, as we've discussed on the show beforehand, 318 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:49.039 for some reason, IndyCar barely picks you up any supercar points to allowing 319 00:20:49.079 --> 00:20:52.839 you drive a Formula one car. It's pretty much what the same as F 320 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:56.480 two less than F two mybe less, which is really awful the way it's 321 00:20:56.480 --> 00:20:59.960 staying out. So that's why I'm not seeing lots of young American youngsters come 322 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:03.279 into Formula one. They cannot get the right licenses to drive in the top 323 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:08.359 level without sacrificing a sanctuary retired childhood to move to Europe. All right, 324 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:11.279 last question, we talked food earlier. I just have to ask, what's 325 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:17.079 what the mushy peas? Oh, come on, fish chips and mushy peas 326 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:22.720 is unreal. I hate mushy peas. I'm with you, America, honestly, 327 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:25.319 If any of you are all coming to London. I will take you 328 00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:27.000 out for fish, chips and mushy peas with a bit of curry sauce. 329 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:32.160 You will be It's like our barbecue. You will love it. It's so 330 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:38.400 so tasty. I didn't understand the mushy peas by themselves. I can see 331 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:41.880 where, like you said, with curry with fish and with fish and chips, 332 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:45.799 you could incorporate them into your your platter. I did make a trip 333 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:49.440 to London one time, and this was twenty some odd years ago, and 334 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:53.799 I used the Rick Steves Guide to London in search of the best fish and 335 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:59.359 chips in London. It sent me on a ridiculous train ride out to I 336 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:03.039 believe Marlin bone. Does that sounds? Is that HUD's pronounced? I guess? 337 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:07.079 And I ended up walking around this weird neighborhood, walked up to a 338 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:08.680 stand. It was served to me in a newspaper. I took one bite 339 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:12.400 and threw it in the trash. It was horrible, but the best bit 340 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:15.960 fish and chips I had was in the pubs for sure. But yeah, 341 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:18.839 this was like such a waste of day. You need to do is if 342 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:22.599 you ever come to the UK, you've got time to come down to where 343 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:26.119 Ben and I and Harry grew up in Cornwall, and you go get yourself 344 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:27.839 some proper fish and chips by the coast, by the beach, and that 345 00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:32.400 is where you'll get the best food. It's fresh, it's tasty, it's 346 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:37.880 well batted. The London stuff is a little little yeah. All right, 347 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:41.480 Well on my future Silverstone trip, I will hit you up and you can. 348 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:45.720 You can prance me around much like you guys are prancing around Austin. 349 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:48.119 I can't thank you enough. That is Sam Sage, Ben Hawking the Late 350 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:52.000 Breaking Formula one podcast. If you are a F one fan, jump on 351 00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:56.839 with these guys. 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