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Welcome to Spacing Out with Boebe and
Jason this week covering Battlestar Galacticas season four

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episode thirteen, The Oath. Welcome
back, I'm Baby and I'm Jason,

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and this is Spacing Out where today
we will be discussing Battlestar Galactica. If

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you are new to the show,
welcome, and you should know we're gonna

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have a spoiler section at the end
of the podcast where we are free to

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discuss any future events in the series. Otherwise, we won't be spoiling anything

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past this episode, which is Battlestar
Galactica season four, episode thirteen, The

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Oath. This aired on January thirtieth, two thousand and nine. Written by

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Mark Verheyden, directed by John Dahl. The survivor count at the beginning of

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the episode is thirty nine thousand,
six hundred and forty three people, just

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down one from last time. I
don't remember oh. In this episode,

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Felix Gaeta springs Zerk from jail and
organizes a mutney aboard the Galactica with both

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civilians and officers. A Dama and
Ti are taking hostage but break free of

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their captors. Roslin uses Baltar's wireless
to address the fleet, and the two

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escape on a Raptor heading to the
Cylon bass Star, but Gaeta orders the

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raptor destroyed. Cut to be continued. Is to be continued, and there's

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a lot more action in there.
Vibe check. Did we like the episode

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overall? How does it stand the
test of time? This episode was awesome,

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Right. There was so much violence
and gore and like movements, and

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there was this one shot of fucking
Colonel Tie with a rifle in one hand

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and a handgun in the other and
he just looked fucking cool. I was

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like, what is going on,
old man making ass? Yeah, it

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was really fun. Like we've seen
Adama into like some action before, and

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we've seen them like I don't like, suit up and go down to the

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planet and like it's military garbs or
we've seen him such a couple of guys,

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and this is like we're going back
to all of our old military training,

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just like me and my buddy taking
on everyone. Yeah. So yeah,

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it's full of like adrenaline and kind
of an espionage thing with people like

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being undercover and choosing sides and yeah, lots of action, violence and kind

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of like I don't know, people
like I guess, making the decision to

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do stuff that they aren't gonna be
able to take back, like right,

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very very like we're nearing the end
of the series and people are really it's

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polarizing. I think they were.
They were making decisions that are going to

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change the trajectory of their characters in
this universe. And I think Adama even

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says like they're going to be a
reckoning. Yeah, so it's like,

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WHOA. But I really liked this
episode. I think this is one of

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my favorite episodes so far. Yeah, and even for like a part one

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cliffhanger, like it wasn't just like
all build up with no payoff, like

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it was engaging the whole time.
Yeah, trivia time. What facts could

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we uncover for the Oath? It's
a little bit of trivia. This episode

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was originally set to be directed by
Kevin Smith, who was an ardent fan

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of the series, but there were
some scheduling conflicts that prevented him from directing.

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Kind of glad, I don't think
it would have been as fast paced

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unfortunately. Yeah, I don't know
what Kevin smith Battlestow episode would have been.

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Does he ever guest start again?
I guess that's a spoiler. I

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don't know. No, maybe in
the new season, the one that's like

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in the works. Maybe it's also
like, well, so this episode directed

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by John Dall. I think that's
a new name for Battlestar as well.

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But at this point in the series
there's not a lot of new directors coming

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in, like they kind of need
people who know what's going on. Wait,

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so it's like Kevin Smith's working on
Jersey Girl or something like that.

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What's going on? Do we know? I'm just trying to look into it.

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Seems like there was some like miscommunication
going on and they ended up like

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thinking he couldn't do it, and
they scheduled someone else, and then like,

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I don't know, there was some
like apology letter. Wow, someone

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dropped the ball. Huh. Yeah, I don't know. This episode was

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written and shot before the episodes were
even conceived, which is the reason that

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there is no on screen display of
Gaeta and Hoshi's relationship or the potential conflicts

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that may have entailed, which is
an element that the showrunner, Ronaldymore,

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wished he could have included in the
episode. Oh yeah, because his boyfriend's

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like probably on the side of Galactica. Yeah, yeah, and they're communicating

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back and forth on the CIC.
Yeah, there could have been another element,

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just even like eyes, like like
longful looks. Yeah, but that's

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all I have for Trivia Deep Space
Dive. Let's break down some of our

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thoughts on the episode. You can
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So what do you want to talk
about because this episode's super juicy and has

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so many different things that are going
on. Well, okay, I want

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to talk about how we start at
six am in the morning and Admiral Adama

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is in his quarters having a gross
cup of coffee that's freshly brewed, and

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his bff, Colonel Tye, who
happens to be a Cylon, comes in

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and is like, good morning,
bestie, and then awkwardly, it feels

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like it's awkward for Tie. Laura
comes in in her head wrap, real

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cash like and be like, oh
baby, good morning, and a Colonel

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ties like Scorman and it was so
good. I really liked and Adama and

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her like kiss good morning, and
they have like a regular relationship. And

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I think it's really weird for Colonel
Tie to witness this. But I love

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how Adama just plays it off like, oh, yeah, this is just

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casual, everyday thing. Yeah,
this is a new normal. Yeah where

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you been. Roslin knows that it's
making him uncomfortable, and she's just rolling

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with it. Yeah, she's making
it even more awkward. And then like

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she sits down and opens a book, but she's totally listening to their conversation.

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Yeah, and they're talking about like
how you know there's still people who

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are not getting with the program to
change the cylon technology and they're like refusing

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to let cylons on their shipps and
they have zeric and custody still and a

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bunch of shit is happening. And
I love when they cut to Laura looking

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over at them big side eye,
and then when then she all of a

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sudden like looks back at her book
like, Oh, I wasn't paying attention,

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just playing. I'm not involved,
I'm not getting involved. Yeah.

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She keeps saying that she's not getting
pulled back in. She gets pulled back

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in. It was so funny.
I really love that that she's like,

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I'm not getting involved, but you
really need to get so and so on

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board or else it's not going to
work and you need to talk to this

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guy and you really need to do
this and that, but I'm not involved.

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And there was a look that current
Adama gave her before he left that

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was like, bitch, you getting
involved, and she's like, that's all

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I'm gonna say. And then their
whole little tid for tad like they're a

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little back and forth, but about
like having supper ready. That was so

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cute. I really enjoyed that conversation. I feel like their relationship is really

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blossoming. Yeah, Like it's adorable
and it's nice to see it after you

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know, all these years of build
up and quiet like looks and just like

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admiration and all that, and they
started like with so much friction between them.

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Yeah, so yeah, it's nice
to see that. But then later

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when when her boo gets in trouble, she's fully back in. Oh yeah,

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she had her wig on, she
had her book in the morning,

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she had her scarf on, her
pajamas, her robe. She was like,

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you know, real chill, and
then like shit was going down.

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I'm sure she heard like gunshots and
shit too, so she like got it

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together. She put on some blush, she threw on that wig and brushed

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her down. She's like, whatever
happens, I'm gonna look good. And

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so that's like Laura. She's like
her in Adama's quarters, basically waiting to

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see what's going to happen and ready
to do whatever happens next. It looks

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like, thankfully in the background there's
other people moving, so Gata he feels

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so like, I feel like,
what's going on, you know, like

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midlife crisis or something like like the
depression or the like denial or the like

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unprocessing of his like amputation is causing
him to just like act a fool and

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instead of like taking care of himself, he's like, no, fuck the

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cylons and fuck everyone who likes a
cylon, and he's like, I'm going

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to start a revolution. And he
we saw him doing that when he's stirring

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the pot, when he's like,
close that door, we're going to have

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a conversation. And then he goes
and talks to Zack, who I don't

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know if he's a sale. Honestly, I feel like Xeric is just using

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him as a pawn and he doesn't
realize how powerful of a pawn he's got

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because this guy controls the communications of
the warship that protects the whole fleet.

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Like, I didn't realize how much
Gata was like the head of communications until

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every time anybody try to call Galactica, it was him that was like,

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good afternoon, thank you for calling
Galactica. How can I help you.

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I'm sorry, he's busy right now, I can take a message. He

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is the administrative assistant, he's the
receptionist or the like, Yeah, he's

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basically like what is it called when
you do something with calls and screening?

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He's screening the calls and I had
no idea, Like everybody who calls Galactica

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or is trying to communicate with Galactica, here's Gata's voice. Yeah, so

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he is effectively the voice of Galactica
to other ships and two other crew members

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who call in and we're like,
hey, there's a fire here. Gata

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knows. Yeah, And he's in
such a unique position because of this.

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They're like he's really able to control
the CIC for quite some time and throw

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them off the trail, and anytime
something comes up, he has, you

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know, another solution in mind of
like, oh maybe this is the greatest

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ghost whatever that is. Yeah,
he's a great improviser because he knows the

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ship so well and he knows the
mechanics, and then the reactions that that

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Adama is going to have to it, like, oh it's probably this,

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Oh you're right, well, let's
just do Let's just evacuate everyone then,

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and as I as you evacuate everyone, then his goonies or no, what

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are they called goons? Goons They're
like cleaning out the artillery compartment, and

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you know, Starbuck calls the CIC
and it's like civilians are arming themselves,

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and Gata's like, I'm sorry,
he's busy right now. Can I take

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a message? And he makes it
so that Zeric can escape without any problems.

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And when Zak gets to Colonial one, which is the name of the

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ship that all the politics happens on, I guess everyone's confused because there was

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no message from Madama saying hey,
I'm sending him back. We're gonna like

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let him go because he didn't let
him go he escaped, yeah, And

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Lee calls Galactica and he's like,
hey, what the fuck is my dad

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doing? And Gata is like,
I'm sorry, he can't talk right now.

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You can leave a message, you
know how he is so it's like

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another instance where Gata is blocking effectively
blocking communication that is necessary for the ship

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to be in the know that something
is off. Yeah, And it's funny

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later when Gata is in control of
the CIC and he's giving orders like none

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of his guys know how to do
ship no, Yeah, he's like,

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why don't you just block the signal? And he's like, what do you

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mean, I don't know how to
do that, And it takes him forever

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to get from the table where everybody
does their little playbooks and all that,

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you know, where Captain Adama does
his orders to go up the stairs through

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that narrow passage behind all those chairs
to get to his seat, and then

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he was able to finally kill the
transmission, but it was too late.

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The message was out. But yeah, he's working with really like there,

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I feel like there are two types
of people working for data, like die

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hard Cylon Hayton motherfuckers, and then
people who aren't sure but they're like it

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feels right and I'm following orders.
It sounds right that this is treason,

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so I'm I'm going with the flow. And I think we saw that with

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the two guys that the two Marines
that we're taking Colonel Tie and General Ado

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or is it General Admiral Admiral Adama
to the brig The one in the front

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was such a dick, and then
the one in the back was like,

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hey, you know, we're just
doing what we can. You know,

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was his loyalty was divided because yeah, he served Adama for so long.

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Yeah, and he were yeah,
so, and I think that's kind of

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interesting. I think like that,
I feel like he doesn't have full control

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of everyone the way he wants to
have control of everyone. Because of that,

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and there's hesitation in a lot of
them. You saw the hesitation with

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Leadama coming on the board and race
Track watching everybody like almost killed Leadama.

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And she's like, wait what,
I didn't sign up for this? Yeah,

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because they like Leadama was almost shot
in the face. Yeah, we

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see you know a number of characters
that we we know and may become the

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like like taking sides against a mama. You know, you got race Track,

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you got Selick su distract Sanders so
he can be taken. Yeah,

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she was. I was like confused
why she was coming up to him and

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talking shit to him. I was
like, oh, is she trying to

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like flirt with him right now.
Yeah, I thought she was just like

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horny right there, like I know
your wife's back, but let's give us

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another shot. Like why didn't you
look at my tits last time we were

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out drinking. Well, it's because
you're a defective Cylon and I fucking hate

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you. And then they beat the
shit out of Vanders. I could not

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believe it. I was so upset. He had very little lines, and

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but his emotion and his like acting
in this was so good, Like you

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could tell like he is done,
he's like depressed. Yeah, so they're

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rounding up all the cylons. Oh
yeah. They go into Hilo's house and

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they're like big ben Ben bang and
the baby girls like what the fuck?

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And they grab her and then the
guy that was from Pegasus was reminding him

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how he killed that rapist. Yeah, and then he threatened to rape Sharon.

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I was like, that's horrifying that
that's a motivator to fight back.

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But he's in the brig now.
They I'm glad that they put them together

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so at least they're like in a
family unit. Still, was Heilo in

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there? Yeah? Yeah, they
threw him in their unconscious Remember that makes

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sense I guess I wouldn't just leave
him. Yeah, but I remember the

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last thing he said was like I'm
coming back for you, like he was

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going to come back and rape her. Later's scary. Yeah, So they

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got they got they already had number
six in there because she basically lives there

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and is pregnant with Ty's baby or
something. Yeah, you have Athena and

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they got Ander's. They were looking
for Todd. They thought they had time.

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They had time for a moment.
Chief Tarrell. He's like he was

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hanging out with he's hunkered down with
Guias and kind of helping. He's just

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out there doing good deeds. Basically, Yeah, he's doing he's doing the

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Lord's work. I didn't realize that
he was so invested in it until I

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saw him at Gaius's like camp and
like giving orders and telling people like we

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got to do this. Like he
figured out that communications weren't working and so

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he's like walkies and he's just so
smart. Like I really like him in

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this episode. I think because he's
so chill and not in that awful uniform.

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He was pretty chill and just like
managing the situation. Yeah, it's

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kind of weird to that right,
because he's normally just like a guy who

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follows orders or is really stressed about
one of his girlfriends. Now that he's

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single, he's like chill, he's
in command, he's in control, and

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he's like got this. But yeah, I really liked his role in this.

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I feel like he was like taking
up arms. He's like, we're

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we're gonna we already have an escape
plan for Guias because we know they're gonna

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come after him, because he's a
cylon lover, like to nobody knows what

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extent, but it's he's an extreme
cylon liver. Like he doesn't even have

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a cylon on his side, but
he imagines them in his mind. Like

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Tory wasn't in this episode. I
think she's on the the cylons. Yeah,

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but they did reference her when Gaius
Baltar and Laura Rosalind we're having their

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conversations about how they both didn't pick
good residential like aids, yeah, and

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she tells him like, you know, Felix, maybe you can talk to

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him, and he does try.
He calls Gayda and he's like, this

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isn't you man, what's going on? Yeah, And then he brings up

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something about a pen. Yeah,
so I believe he's referencing when Gada stabbed

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him with that pen. It was
after Baltard whispered in his ear, which

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we only know from the wepisodes,
that he was referring to how Gata was

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giving on a new kapper. He
was giving a list of names to that

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number eight. Oh yeah, he
was. He was reverse Schindler's list.

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Yeah. Yeah, So he's basically
saying like, hey, like, your

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hands have been dirty in all this
too. You're right, nobody's innocent in

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this war. We all have had
our difficulties, and I'm really glad that

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Laura talked about that in her broadcast. So the reason that they go to

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Gaias is because they know that their
safety there, but I think they also

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need that broadcast. Laura needs to
get a message out to the fleet.

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And they happened to see what's his
name? We just were talking about him,

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chief Chief, Yeah, Chief,
which, like I feel like running

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into him on accident was a godsend
because the other woman wasn't gonna let her

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in. Yeah, she was such
a bitch too well, because like the

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previous interactions that the group has had
with Rosalin as her trying to like shut

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down their to organize, Like Rosalind
likes to fuck around with people's human rights

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that's been established. She's like not, she's a complicated character. Like she

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took away the right to abortion,
let's not forget. Yeah, they predicted

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that Robie Babe would be overturned,
so that's scary, and yeah, I

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feel like she has There's just like
a lot of good dialogue back and forth

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between characters and this, and they're
usually pretty short scenes, but like Roslin

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and Baltar's kind of going back and
forth about like who is the worst president?

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You're not even on the throne anymore. It was good to see them

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together too, because they've had a
lot of like conflict before, like you

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know, they don't like each other
in the ways that they do, and

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so work them working together, them
are escaping together. Crazy. They've also

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saved each other's lives before. Yeah, yeah, herd unlikely ally the first

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portion she thought of when they're like
calms are down, Yeah, and so

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Chief is like, well, we
have a plan where if you can be

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at escape hatch number four at noon, we got an escape plan. Yeah.

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Chief already had it all set up
for Yeah, He's like we're already

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done, we're leaving. Yeah,
so we get like a big kind of

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reunion scene where Starbuck and Lee and
the President and the Panama and everyone kind

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of convened in that what was that
room was like an old something that got

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destroyed during some time something, and
Chief was like working on rebuilding just in

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case something. He's like, I
rebuilt it just in case something like this

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happened. Honestly, I don't know
what you guys have been doing, but

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I've been prepping. He's a prepper. He's got like buckets of food and

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stuff. Well, they had crates
of shit out with Baltar. He was

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probably helped them hoard. Yeah,
so President and the Admiral are making out

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what everyone's standing around watching them.
Yeah, it was weird, and it

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was kind of a long kiss too, But it might be their last kiss,

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right, That's kind of the understanding. There's it's like they haven't seen

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each other. There's been a lot
going on, and there's safeties at risk,

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and I think Adama at this point
already knows that he's staying behind,

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so he's going to make a count. Yeah, I mean you get the

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sense of, like, this is
our last stand yeah. Speaking of kisses,

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though, how about that Starbuck and
Leadama kiss That was random and just

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for the thrill of it. It
seemed like, Yeah, I mean Starbuck

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was just hyped up on adrenaline.
She was in the moment. It was

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like I finally have something fun to
do on the ship. He was so

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chaotic because I think she's been dealing
with like burying herself or burning herself up.

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Yeah, She's like, I need
an award to distract me. I

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need to shoot people. I need
a murder. She killed up. She

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straight up killed that man that was
about to shoot Leadama. Yeah, and

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then she shot another guy almost fatally, like in the chest, and she's

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like, I will fucking shoot all
of you motherfuckers. Try me. And

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she even told them before she when
she got Lee on her side and was

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like run, She's like please follow
me, like please, yeah, make

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my day. Wants a fight.
She doesn't want Adama taking hostages like no,

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yeah, She's like, these are
the enemies. That was scary and

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I wish they would have done a
little bit more with that, but it

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wasn't about her, so I was
like, that's fine. I don't know

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what they did with her, though, because she didn't look like she stayed

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behind with them in the escape patch. It looked like it was just because

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she was in the room with them
with Leadama and Rosalin and the other ones.

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But we don't know, Like the
only people we saw holding down the

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fort was Colonel Tye and General or
Admiral Ldama. Yeah, I honestly don't

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remember where where they want to Starbuck
ended up at the end. I don't

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think they're in that room with them, and I don't think they left on

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the Raptor either. Yeah, so
maybe they left before it got hot in

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there in that area. We don't
know. Yeah, so to be continued,

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that was oh my god. Yeah, so the Raptor is able to

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undock and leave with Laura and Gaius
heading probably to Colonial One so that she

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can like put out the fire,
that metaphorical fire that Felix started. I

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think they said they're heading to the
bay ship. Oh I don't know what

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that is. Okay, Well,
I don't know where they're going. Let

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me just be honest. They're leaving. And as they're leaving, we cut

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to the c C with Gata in
charge, and he's like, who's available,

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who's like in the air right now, and they're like, it's hot

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Dog and this other guy, and
he's like, well, get ahold of

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the other guy because he probably thinks
hot Dog will listen right hopefully. Maybe,

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I mean, I want hot Dog
to be on our side. So

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he gets along with Starbuck for the
most part, like they were giving razzine

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each other the earlier in the episode, talking about how she named him hot

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Dog and it was a good name
for him because he got a girl pregnant.

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But then she threw her cereal at
him, and I was confused.

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She can give it out, but
she can't take it, yeah, because

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she fucked half the fleet too.
She can't. But she's got nothing to

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show horror, And that's weird because
I think she does want a kid.

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Remember when she had that kid that
didn't belong to her. Yeah, But

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anyway, he doesn't choose hot Dog
to be the guy to seek destroy and

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kill or whatever. I don't remember
the exact line, because because that guy

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was like, what are your orders? Like? Once I get a hold

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of this other guy, and his
orders are to kill or destroy that raptor

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yep, And I feel like that
is the true turning point for him because

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he had a choice to let him
go, but he shows to like try

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to destroy them. And now it's
to be continued, and I'm so excited.

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I think we covered the whole episode. I mean, I'm sure there's

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we can keep picking a little moments
in there we love. But oh yeah,

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it was a good episode. There
was like the whole episode was Chef's

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kiss except for the kiss between Lee
and Starbuck. I could have lived without

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that. I could have had her
like doing some other like extreme physical like

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fists in the air, like shaking
up and being like, yeah, it's

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excited. That would have been funny, like picks him up and tosses him.

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Yeah. So yeah, that was
a lot of fun. But let's

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move on Astral Queen, who was
the standout character in the episode. How

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do you pick an astral queen in
this episode? Right? Oh my god,

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how do you pick an up an
astral queen in this episode? I

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guess let me talk through the narrow
it down. So you've got Colonel Tie

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looking badass. He looks so cool
with those guns. He had the coolest

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dance. You've got Roslin getting back
in the game. Given her speech,

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I'm kind of leaning towards Chief Tarroll
because he was like ready prepared. He

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was ready and cool about it,
just calm as a cucumber. Everyone else

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is like scrambling to figure it out, and they get to Chief Tarrell and

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he's got everything lined up. He's
like, yeah, I have some juice

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boxes in the back. Are you
hungry? Like, what's going on?

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Guys don't leave on an empty stomach. Yeah, I mean, who else

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is an option? Starbuck, she
like saved Liadama from being straight up murdered,

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and she like was one of the
one of the first to like notice

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something was off. That girl from
Gaius's temple went straight to the temple and

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was like, there's something for she
happening. We better like the redhead with

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the short hair when she was leaving
the hangar deck or whatever. Oh yeah,

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she's so like Starbuck was like,
citizens are arming themselves or civilians civilians

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and I don't know. Yeah,
I think I'm just gonna go with Chief

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Tarrell together. I'm gonna go with
Laura Rosalin because she was going to stay

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out of it, but she got
sucked back in. All right, I

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mean honorable mentions for everyone else basically, yeah, even Gayta, right,

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even Gata was like doing the most
gata for running the whole CiCe on his

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own right, like I'm doing all
of the jobs. He's like, get

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out of my way. God damn
it, who put these consoles so far

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apart? All right, well,
then, Chief Tyrell and Laura Roslin President

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Rosalin, her awards are going to
your last known address. So that does

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it. For the main part of
this episode, we're going to go into

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the spoiler section. If we have
any spoilers, we'll see when we get

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there, but we better I want
to know more. If you're not joining

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us for that part, then you
need to stop listening right about now and

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which will continue the events from this
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right, let's spoil something. What
happens to the ship? You don't remember?

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What do you mean, what happens
to it? I feel like Laura

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obviously gets away with it. She'll
like gonna get to her destination and fix

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everything, right, Yes, I
mean remembering specifically how events go down.

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Not too sure, I think.
So they retake the c S. I

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think she Carold does does a lot
more next time too. I think he's

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like crawling through the vowels of the
ship to get to where they need to

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go. And while he's down there, he notices that Galactica has got some

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major crack center and isn't going to
live much longer. Oh no, so

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then setting up for kind of the
rest of the episodes there. But yeah,

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we Gata and Zeric do not win
this, No, and they are

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executed. They execute Gata how in
the airlock? No wait, I think

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it's firing spot what damn. It's
intense and yep together, and I think

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there's a kind of nice heart to
heart between Baltar and Gata right before that.

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But yeah, it's the end of
a sad arc Regata. Yeah,

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I'm damn help the ar. Yeah, I think next episode is kind of

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continues the energy of this episode,
So it's very much satisfying in that way,

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I guess. So after that,
we kind of shift gears and we

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start learning a lot more about the
Cylons the final five, and we get

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Ellen back in the mix, and
I'm glad. It kind of feel like

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she has this chaotic energy about her
that really lines up the Cylon Crows and

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the lives of like Colonel Tie and
everyone else. I just keep anytime I

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think about Ellen, I think about
that time they had dinner and she was

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flirting so hard with Leodonna, so
hard. Oh well, I wanted to

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touch on how Adama is like very
clear about how there is no forgiveness,

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no amnesty for anyone who's taking sides
against him. That's not necessarily true because

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the end of the series, they
need everyone they can get to go attack

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the Cylon colony, and so we
see people like track back back in action.

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So there's some forgiveness for like white
women men, but if you're a

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gay brown man, you're fun well, if you're if you're leading the insurrection

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versus you know, just merely participating
in it. Oh, I was just

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caught up in the heat of the
moment, you know, then why was

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their duct tape and firearms in the
trunk at your car? Ma'am? I

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don't know. I don't know if
I buy it. How do they gauge,

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like how innocent somebody? Is there
a loyalty test? I don't know.

413
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I don't know either, and I
don't know what else to talk about.

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All right, Well, let's in
this episode, so next time there

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will be blood on the scales of
justice. Is that what it means?

416
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I don't know. Oh, it
means blood on the scales of a dragon.

417
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What if the show all of a
sudden just had dragons in it?

418
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No, there's an interview somewhere with
Edward James almost or he was like,

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if they bring aliens into the show, I'll give them like one scene where

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I take a heart attack and die
and then I'm out. He's not into

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Star Trek. No, he just
didn't want the series to go there.

422
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Oh well, and in the next
episode he's going to have a heart attack.

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All right, that's it. Something
about a mutiny and don't do that

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or do it depends? Yeah?
Would you do a mutiny? I feel

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like I would be like, I'm
open to technology. What if it's like

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the introduction of Wi Fi. You
know what I mean. We've been using

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these fucking calm systems, and all
of a sudden, now I can text

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people what I think. The Cylon
technology. Please, suddenly you can be

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like streaming and all this stuff.
Yeah, I want TikTok. I don't

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have to listen to these like twenty
four hour political talk shows they seem to

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have. It's either political talk or
the religious. Like radio station in the

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rural like Arkansas, I only have
two stations, yeah, I think.

433
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Yeah, sign me up network my
ship. Yeah, give me the Bylon

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technology please, Oh my god.
All right, Well, see y'all later,

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So say we all, So say
we all, thank you for spacing

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out with Bob and Jason. You
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four, episode fourteen, Blood on
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