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mister John Allen alongside today, as mentioned, a beautiful day, hot outside,
but I'm not complaining. Today's one of those days where if you're gonna
go out and have dinner tonight, and a lot of people try not to
eat out. Well, I don't know. Maybe people eat out every night.
I'm not sure, but you know we try not to do it.
I mean, we do it more than we should. But if we're gonna
get dinner tonight, I need to tell my wife we need a patio,
like it's a patio dinner kind of night, right, John, Absolutely,
I'm already thinking that. Yeah, I mean just read my mind, just
being outside cold beer, I mean, just enjoying the beautiful weather. And
it is hot right now, like literally it's not uncomfortably hot, but it's
like mid eighties I think it is. It's the perfect day for like you
mentioned, once it gets to six o'clock, seven o'clock, maybe even eight,
that's when it's gonna be the perfect temperature to hang out outside, no
doubt about it. And because we are still you know, we're in April,
mid midway through April, it can be hot during the day, but
one there's no humidity, like the humidity hasn't really got here yet, right,
Yeah, it's about a month away, maybe maybe longer, but as
mentioned right around the time, really probably closer to seven. It's just I
mean, perfect outside. I mean it's not bad before then, but yes,
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of the show, so looking forward to that. But I wanted to art
was something that you know has nothing to do with sports. Honestly, it's
probably not anything you guys tuned into here, but I just wanted to share
with you, and yes, we will talk about the big visitors on campus.
Pat Kelsey actually spoke at an event earlier today here in Louisville, filling
in for one John Calipari, who was supposed to be the speaker at the
Cost for Kids Child Abuse Prevention lunch in. So you know, anytime this
guy gets in front of a crowd with a microphone and a camera, I
think he does what he does well, and that's selling and just you know,
he's a great speaker. I think he's a pretty good coach too.
You know, will will he win games here? I believe so, But
only time will tell. But in the meantime, right in the first few
weeks he's spent on the job, I feel like any chance he gets to
meet and it's not just things you hear on the radio or you see on
TV. I'm talking about you know, when he gets out And I mean
I've had three or four people in the last few weeks reach out to me
that have come across Pat. Rather it be it's some kind of like a
formal dinner with you know, business leaders, that kind of stuff. I
know Mayor Greenberg met him a couple of weeks ago and spoke really highly of
him. So we'll get into that. And also they're not saying it,
but I do believe Kentucky fans those that are like super obsessed with recruiting and
super obsessed with basketball. I mean, those that are like following this roster
situation like no other. They won't say it, but they're gonna be bothered
by Cali Perry because even if he doesn't win in Arkansas, until he plays
games or coaches games, I should say. I mean, he's gonna generate
buzz for Arkansas and it's going to get so much attention and it's going to
annoy Kentucky fans, I'm telling you, and I'm sure it already has.
So there's a lot of other things we'll get into today. But John,
when you were on vacation at Disney a couple weeks ago, Austin was filling
in and I think it was one of these Reddit links that I found to
discuss and it was breaking down like the it was breaking down the standards that
folks have when they get on an online dating app or website, and it
really I mean, the reason I brought it up is because it stood out
to me is if like this is crazy, like that's awful, like that
would suck to be single kind of thing. But then again, I've been
out of the game so long, like you know, but they laid out
this survey, laid out what people are seeing, like what the most realistic
normal I guess standard there is, like if you're a dude and you're looking
for somebody between the ages of twenty eight and thirty five that is not obese,
meaning they can be overweight, but obese is a different level of overweight,
has a career making like at least forty thousand dollars a year, doesn't
have kids, but would potentially want to have kids. To me, this
is pretty I mean that to me seems like a wide wide range of people
like that. I think there's a lot of people that would fall into that
category. But the percentage chances of you finding someone exactly like that, it
was like zero point zero percent. And I'm like, geez, so doesn't
mean that. You know, a lot of people probably don't meet somebody on
a dating app, But it just really stood out to me, so Austin
and I got to Chad because I believe he shared this during the during the
show, and if not, I guess I'm outing him here, but he
wouldn't mind. He met his current girlfriend that he's been seeing for a long
time. I believe they lived together on an app. I don't know which
one it was, but I just started thinking, like I wouldn't even know
what to say, like, hey, how are you like? I What
would I mean? I wouldn't even know where to start. I'll say this,
I'm glad that I found my wife before the dating app craze became a
thing. We met on an app. I guess it was on Twitter,
not a dating app. You met your wife on Twitter? That's cool kind
of on Twitter, but we Twitter was a big like Twitter was like when
I was in high school. Twitter was the thing to be on, which
is crazy because now a lot of people like you and even me, like
Twitter and a thing when I was in high school, but becuruse that was
a long long time ago. We had MySpace, but I remember, like
it used to be. At one point, it wasn't just the platform for
you know, the people who use it now. It was for the younger
crowd. Now there are people on Twitter that you know that are used,
that probably gone on it when you did in high school, right, but
like no, no, like nobody like fresh out of high school is active
on Twitter. You know what I mean? I wouldn't think so. Yeah,
But so you all known each other before, but like maybe connected on
Twitter. We knew we had a mutual friend. That was how we kind
of connected, but we did. We also followed each other on Twitter as
well. But you shot your shot on Twitter. Yes, that's where That's
where the initiation happened. Nice. So anyways, just to be, you
know, an idiot, a goofball, like I can be for lack of
you know, maybe something you could say on the radio. I've started emailing
my wife every day before the show starts, as if I'm like messaging her
on a dating app, and you know, I don't think i've you know,
at first she is like, you're so stupid, which is true.
But now I'm kind of like running out of like because what it always turns
into is me essentially asking what we're doing for dinner. But like I'm like,
hey, I'm Nick. Just wanted to say hello, you know,
just super formal like brief, a very you know, generic, some form
of how you're doing, I'm so and so, but today I didn't really
know what to say, like, I didn't really know where to go from
there. So she really appreciates it, though she doesn't know it. But
I know she's been telling people she thinks it's like romantic. Oh she does,
now, Yeah, I mean I think what I think she sees here
is just some effort on my end to kind of, you know, I
don't know, have a little fun. Yeah, I have fun, like
because as much as we you know, we have a great life together,
you really get on autopilot a lot with kids and you know, our schedules
and work and that kind of stuff. But at one point I may read
some of the messages I sent her just to see if, like you guys
tell me like, hey, I think that's lame, Like I don't think
that would have worked. Man. But is it really what you say or
is it more of what you're like your picture show like it's probably that more
than anything. Right, That's a good question. Or maybe how it comes
across, how whatever the words you type out come across. I just in
my mind, I cannot imagine being like like sending an initial an initial message
to someone that isn't just very like anything that's not super generic, like hey,
how are you? I don't know. I mean again, I would
suck. Yeah, if I was doing it today and I hadn't let's just
say I hadn't had been in a relationship for like two or three years or
something that might be a long time. But I feel like I would just
yelop. Well, what I was gonna say is I feel like, if
you if you do something other than the very generic introduction just to see if
you get a bite, you know what I mean. I feel like,
if you do anything else and you try to be like funny or like,
I don't know, like like very forward, you're gonna sound like you're gonna
be a dork or you're gonna be a creep, right, yeah, And
I think that's not I have this opinion. I can't prove it, and
maybe I'm way off. There's a lot of things that men dudes would not
want to be known as right and there, and there's long long lists of
them. But I think the one that that would be that would one that
would make you feel like the worst, not as if like, you know,
you wanted to ruin your life. But like, no dude would ever
want a girl to think they're a creep, right especially this day and age.
Yeah, but yet, like I just feel like it would be hard
not to do that if you were, you know, unless you were going
to be like super boring. I guess, like you know, like like
I would be. But anyways, I was also I was scrambling before the
show started today because I'm like, you know what I got to I have
to wait maybe till four o'clock if you'll put something together to send her away.
And again, now it's just turned into her Like once we go back
and forth a little bit, then it just turns into, uh, we're
having this for dinner or you want to make me after your show here for
dinner like that. So anyways, we do have some updated news to start
the show with. And I don't know if this was something that happened actually
I guess it happened right at three o'clock as soon as we went on the
air. And that is that Dante Maddox Junior has committed to Savior. So
that's one of the visitors that Louisville has had on campus here recently that has
chosen another school. Good thing is you have many other visitors that'll be on
campus over these next few days, including some that are here right now,
and one of those is a top ten high school senior. But he's only
sixteen years old, Jaden acquaintance, and I still think there's value in having
this guy if you don't get him, just because I do think you've got
a new coach that really hasn't really he's not been in this situation before as
far as recruiting these caliber players or at least not you know, getting him
on campus for an official visit. But I doubt we hear anything. I
think this guy is going to wait it out. I mean, he is
the caliber player that you will never see make a quick decision. Now.
I guess if he was going to make a quick decision, he would probably
be just to follow Caliperry to Kentucky because that's who he initially had committed to
and signed with. So we'll see. If there's any update about the visit,
I'll be sure to let you guys know. I mean, heck,
some of you guys may find the information sooner than I would, because again
I know there's some that are on the Trillie Donovan discord, and obviously there's
insiders that have some private information, so we shall see. And then another
visitor is Ali Khalifa, the big man from BYU. Who I mean,
it sounds like Louisville really wants him. I don't. I mean, I
have no reason to believe that they don't really want him if they're having him
on campus for a visit. Also, he is you know, you got
thirteen scholarships to fill. I mean technically now you have nine. But I
mean, this is the kind of transfer that if you end up like getting
him, you have to keep in mind if you're a louis A fan,
Like, it's not as if you had one spot you had to go get
a really good player. You got a bunch of roster spots that you need
to fill. This is a guy who I believe will be playing his fifth
year of college basketball, and he was a role player at best at BYU.
I wouldn't imagine he would expect to be anything different here. But I'm
also not going to be you know, I'm not going to talk out of
both sides of my mouth here. I mean, other than his his assist
statistics one of the strangest stat lines I've ever seen from a college basketball player.
We talked about it like four points or something, three rebounds, thirty
five shoots like thirty five percent from the field, and I'm just spitballing here.
I don't know the actual numbers, but we've talked about it throughout the
week. This guy in nineteen minutes average four and a half assistant game,
I think it was, which is very impressive. But as a seven foot
guy, it's two hundred and sixty pounds. All the other things on his
stat line are just head scratching. So we'll see if there's any updates on
those two visitors. I will say this, I know there was a tweet
from Jonathan Blue, I believe yesterday. For those who do know Jonathan Blue
is he is. I mean, if you're from Louisville and you've been around
Louisville for a good chunk of your life, then I'm sure you're familiar with
the successful Blue family business ventures. He currently is. Blue Equity is is,
you know, is the company that he runs now. But I mean
it's there's a lot of different I mean, liquor barn I think he's the
initial owner of that so very successful, big time Louisville fan. I believe
he was a ball boy for one of the nineteen eighty eighteen championship team.
I think it was eighty six championship team. And he's very, very very
rich. I mean, I don't think he'd be bothered by me saying that.
And he posted a picture yesterday with Pat Kelcey and it says I'm all
in at Pat Kelsey, and I'm just gonna mean, look, we all
know what this is. This is somebody you know who has the ability and
has given a lot of money before the u of L that is letting everybody
know he's all in on Pat Kelsey. So uh, people will connect dots,
There's no doubt about that, and I'm not gonna stop them. But
I'm also not going to act as if I know if it means anything.
But you know there's some that are saying, well, maybe this could be
maybe maybe Jonathan Blue. Maybe he dropped the bag off to Pat Kelsey as
mister Jayden Quaintance makes his trip to town. So you know what that means,
John, What doesn't mean If Jonathan Blue is dropping the bag and Pat
Kelsey's got the bag to I guess pursue Jayden quaintance. That means Pat Kelsey's
standing on business correct that I'm not just that that's exactly what it was.
You just laid it out perfectly. So the Maddox News, I think,
is going to be a little bit of a test here for Louisville fans because
this is your first loss. But I mean you've already landed two guards.
And by the way, they are guards, just different types of guards.
Terrence Edwards junior fats He's obviously a kind of a do it all guard,
more of a primary guard, if that makes sense, whereas Javon Hadley is
somebody that is more of a you know, he's a six to six guard.
But honestly, he rebounds probably better than he does anything else, you
know, junk buckets. I mean, he's truly a He's a do it
all player in every facet, defense, rebounding, free throw, scoring.
I mean, he's to me, I don't know if he has a weakness,
but I'm not really sure what his true strength is. And I say
that as a compliment, like he's a guy that can do a little bit
of a little bit of everything. I mean, Fats is that as well,
but more so just in a guardbral right, Like he's not crashing the
glass. I mean he can rebound, I would assume with his size.
So maybe Maddox's decision is based off that. But some people are saying that
because things soured with with Penny Boone on his way out of Louisville, who
transferred from Toledo. Initially, well that's where Maddis Junior is transferring from,
is Taledo. I mean, I think we're reaching to go there, but
I don't know. I mean, I think we did learn yesterday, at
least I did. A lot of you probably already knew what that meant.
But make no mistake about it. The since deleted Instagram story from one Penny
Boone was an indication that he doesn't the lorld doesn't have money. I mean,
he didn't say that, but and I'm not even saying that it's true
because I mean, I think what I think happened here is that he probably
thought he would get a big chunk or maybe all of his money upfront,
which is just not how it works. And nobody, anybody that would do
that is an idiot to be honest with you, But I don't know the
passion and crazy love that a lot of people like myself included have for these
college programs that we want so badly to achieve at a high level. It
may make somebody, you know, just do it. I mean, because
right now, again, the players have all the power. So maybe you
know, it wouldn't shock me if it turns out to where you know,
you've got one of the best players in the country and he'll commit to you,
but he's got to get his money up front, so and maybe it
does happen elsewhere, But it's just super foolish because again, at any point,
that player could just leave and technically, like you weren't paying him to
do anything as far as a basketball player or football player, you were paying
him to just exist. Which again I say it every day, it's so
stupid. How how we have to you know, handle that? All right,
So what do I want to get you on the other side? Some
numbers I want to share with you. First of all, we'll let you
hear what Pat Kelsey had to say as he filled in for John Calipari today,
and I'm sure he was probably eager to do it, meaning like,
oh, Yeah, give me a chance to get out in front of you
know, the community of Louisville here, talk at the coz there for kids,
lunch in, and you know, own the room. Given what we
saw and heard when he was introduced as the coach, it wouldn't shock me
if he looks for those kind of opportunities just to kind of build his brand
and build you know, more and more love for him from not only Louisville
fans, but people, you know, influential people within the city of Louisville.
So we'll let you guys hear that. We also have an interesting breakdown
that tells us the total revenue total revenue for all of the college athletic programs
around the country. Louisville, Kentucky, Indiana all kind of finished in similar
spots. But I just you know, this is where you really get a
chance to see how much money these schools generate from their athletic department. And
I'd say, for the most part, these numbers probably won't surprise you that
much. However, there are a few that are in like the top twenty,
that I would have never guessed. But we'll get to that. I
hate like teasing. We're gonna talk numbers. We're gonna have a math quiz,
you know what I mean. It's not like we're gonna you know,
we're not gonna be that lame. We might be lame today, but you
know, not that lame. So anyway, stick with us again. We
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So, John Caliperry at Arkansas still feels kind of weird, but you're starting
to see. And this was something that Louisville fans, I mean, Tuckey
fans knew it from the beginning. Louisville fans had to just accept it.
Cal moves the needle, he does, and Rick Patino moved the needle as
well. And you know he's a phenomenal coach in his own right. But
Cal, you know, he makes big moves, right, A lot of
what Caliperry has kind of build his I think I guess his brand right,
because the brand of Caliperry at Kentucky was not the brand that he had at
Memphis or at UMass. In fact, Cow was always known as some cheater,
which I think it's for good reason, given the fact that you know
he had two final fours vacated. But you know, either way, like
you know, he he rebranded at Kentucky and that time then Louisville got in
some trouble for some nonsense. But nonetheless a lot of Cow's brand that he's
still I guess carrying with him to Arkansas. It's all sizzle and flash.
There's been some substance, but that substance has been lacking in recent years,
and that's why he wins the off season every single year because flash substance and
he's a big name making big moves. That's what he does, and that's
how he has the ability to again lose to a fifteen seed or lose to
a fourteen seed. And in the off season he'll start reeling in big recruits,
he'll start talking his talk, and when there's no actual data to assess
in regards to wins and losses, seeds, that kind of stuff, it's
just him being this big figure that people just seem to believe and think is
great, meaning, you know, like his fan base. Well, now
Arkansas fans are doing it, and I'm just curious if this is going to
Like I'm sure there's some Kentucky fans who claim, well, I don't give
a damn what he doesn't care if I ever hear his name again, and
maybe some of you mean that. But it's still gonna be weird, right,
It's still gonna be weird because for fourteen years, it was your guy
making these moves with all this flash and sizzle, and now it's not.
And now the guy you have is no flash, no sizl and that is
not a criticism to Mark Pope. That's just the difference in what you have.
And they liked the flash in sizzl Kentucky fans and most people do.
Most people would, but they also wanted results to kind of go along with
that, to justify the hype that these teams get every year, and it
just started to kind of fade away, right, So, like nobody's at
fault here, it needed to end. You know, Cal wasn't not been
going to change much. But I still believe he would have in fact won
the offseason, you know what I mean, Like, I still think he
would have been able to do what he does. Maybe I'm wrong, but
we'll never know. But right now he's doing that at Arkansas. He hasn't
landed any players yet other than Big Z who followed him, and he's going
to be apparently all in on the young man from Duke Jeremy Roach that transferred.
So we'll see, you know, that could be I mean, if
it comes down to Jeremy Roach picking in between Kentucky or Arkansas, and he
picks Arkansas, that'll be the first time you see at least a notable number
of their fans, maybe not insulting Mark Pope or saying that they hired a
bum but kind of voicing that they're a little worried or maybe they're big worried.
You think that's fair, John, Yeah, like, because that just
kind of shows that you don't have the power that you once had because Cow's
not with you anymore. I'd make a friendly wager with a Kentucky fan.
I mean it's got to be something like, you know that that I would
be able to fulfill if I lost said wager and dinner. Yeah, and
no, I want to I want even more creative than that. Okay,
but like, if there's a Kentucky fan that wants to make a wager,
you know, you tell me what I would have to do if I lose.
And again, let's be like, you know, realistic here, and
you know you hold I'd hold you to something too, I mean you could
be you know, and actually you don't even have to be part of it.
It can just be a me thing unless you want to, you know,
maybe put yourself through something that you wouldn't want to do because you may
lose this wager. I don't think there's a chance in hell that Mark Pope
would get Jeremy roach over Cali Perry. I don't and I don't think Kentucky
fans do either. They may not say it, but like that's just like
that, think about it, say it out loud. Mark Pope beats out
John Calipari for one of the top guards in the transfer portal. I mean,
it could happen, but like it would have to just be money,
right, yeah, because it wouldn't be it wouldn't be the school. Because
we've talked about that that doesn't have the pull that it had fifteen, twenty
years ago and all not that. I mean, Kentucky is Kentucky. We
always have to acknowledge that. Yeah, but the players these days, that
doesn't resonate with them the way that, especially now in this era of nil,
the money talks more than anything, and that's a bigger deal. That's
a bigger factor in that than the you know, the age of them not
knowing when Kentucky was great, you know what I mean? Yeah, and
they had been to a Final four in nine years, which you know that's
a long time, right, especially for them, but nine years ago kids
that are in college right now, you know, we're eleven if you're twenty
years old, so you know, I'm sure they remember it. Maybe,
But I just also think Cow will negatively recruit against Pope and Kentucky. You
know he will, He's that's Cal. I don't think Pope would do that.
And I'm not even being critical of him for not doing that, but
like he's not going to be throat like cow Well because Cal wants to stick
it to Kentucky in a major way. I don't think Pope really cares about
Cali Perry. Maybe he does, I don't know. I mean, I
think some of the things he said at his press conference, I believe they
were pointed towards Cal. But you know, I just can't see a scenario
where Pope is, you know, in a feud with somebody. He just
seems like too nice for got to be honest with you. But if you
if you want to, if somebody wants to make a wager, like say,
hey, Nick, if if it comes down to Kentucky and Arkansas and
Jeremy Roach picks Kentucky over Arkansas, you've gotta you know, I mean,
I don't even know. I'll let you guys get creative. In fact,
there may be plenty of things that, like I know, I won't and
could not do. But you may throw it out there and I may say,
Okay, you know, I won't do it. But that's at least
a good idea. Does that makes sense? Like we could get some entertainment
from Kentucky fans wanting to potentially torture me if I lost this at this time
hypothetical wager. But the reason I'll bring this up is because cal Perry is
gonna have even more resources through NIL than we even knew. Right we heard
about the amount of money that was going to be there from the Chicken guy,
but now apparently Jerry Jones is reportedly offering double whatever the Kentucky commits were
making to get them to come to Arkansas. And obviously Jerry Jones for those
who don't know, people know Jerry Jones for the Cowboys for obvious reasons.
But he is a big time Arkansas razorback. I believe he's given a lot
of money to Arkansas over the years. He's not been as closely tied and
connected to their programs, at least that I know of. Like, I
don't think there's been any kind of a riff, but like you know,
I don't see him being shown at a bunch of games. But it's well
known that he is an Arkansas guy. Well, a guy like John Cali
Perry leaving Kentucky to come to Arkansas. It's going to get this rich fool
like Jerry Jones to say, oh, you know what, that's there's sizzle,
there, there's flash. Let me be a part of it. Sign
me up. I want in. Those are the kind of things that Cali
Perry can do that most coaches can't. Now can he win? Can he
can he get back to a Final four? I don't know that remains to
be seen. But wow, and some you know, some of the some
of the responses to this, like my buddy reads who I like, he
works for barstool. He's he was, He's the ultimate Caliperry fan. Like
I know he went to UK, likes UK basketball. I'm pretty sure he
went there whenever Cal was there and whatnot. But like he's I mean,
he's trying to do the thing like he doesn't he's not mad that Cal's gone,
and he's putting up blog posted Barstool Sports like every day that you know.
It's just it's I guess it's just it's like him crying it out through
blog. Does that make sense? Like, just cry through it, man,
get it out of your system, because you know, like it's like
I think Kentucky fans as we speak are still content and absolutely all in with
Pope because it's new, it's fresh. He's really reminded them of what Kentucky
basketball is not Cali Perry specifically. But he's a petitor. Now, make
no m's take about it. Like he in he'll probably pick a fight when
there's one not there for a player or something because that's just how he's wired.
And he was your coach for fourteen years. You know what I'm saying
is true. So I may read some of these responses later in the show
from Kentucky fans who either are you know, like this guy who works for
one of the TV stations Selects and Chris Beesmore. If what truly Donovan just
posted on Discord is true, then there needs to be a change to the
NS DOUAA in the future. Now they're claiming Cal's cheating. Oh but he
wasn't cheating when he was there, But he's only he's cheating out Arkansas.
Well it's not really cheating, but like you think it should be cheating because
you know, he has the power, which again, like the way I
laid it out, I don't know if it really was the way I wanted
to. But Jerry Jones isn't getting involved for Musclman because I love Muss but
muscles not Kyl. As far as the figure and the hype machine that is
John Caliperry, and he's gonna buy all the players, and he's had really
good pl before and they've underwhelmed. But maybe he does mix it up,
like maybe some things that he was maybe some things that he refused to change
and adjust to when he was in Kentucky because he was fearful that it would
be him kind of proving that he was wrong because he's so stubborn. Well
now he can do it at Arkansas, and you know it's just him kind
of you know, refreshing. He's not at that point. He's not proving
it. It's not a stubborn thing at that point. So anyways, all
right, let's hear Pat Kelcey earlier today. This was an event that John
cal Perry was actually supposed to be speaking at because you know, he was
the keynote speaker for this event. It's the coz Air for kids luncheon.
So I don't know how it was arranged, but I love the fact that,
Hey, he's gone, cal Perry's out of town. He left.
Let's see what the Louisville's coach is up to. Let's see if he can
give us some time. And he did, and I expect there'll be more
sound from this to play later. But this is maybe the dreaded This may
be the dreaded uh video play that only comes out of one side, because
if it does, then you know, I'm gonna have to do something to
the file before I can play it. Let's see Coach Cow who's a friend
of mine, who I know really really well. It took a while,
but all of the Cardinal fans out there, we finally achieved it. Coach
Cow is finally wearing red. So what if Cal like saw that and quote
tweeted it with a hey Pat, best of luck in Louisville. I mean
that that would melt Big Blue nation, would it not? It really was.
They would combust and Cal is so petty he would do it. I
love it. This rivalry fun again, John, It's it's it's so fun
to observe from the outside because nothing has happened, and nothing will happen been
From a basketball standpoint, I mean, I guess we'll see who who gets
what recruits in that kind of thing. But they won't get to settle this
until next December, which is a while away. So I'm excited. One
thing about Pat Kelsey, I have a comparison. I don't know if you'll
agree with this or not. He is careful to talk about a man,
right, Oh okay, he's starting to remind me a lot of PJ.
Fleck at Minnesota. I don't know how familiar you are with him for football,
By the way, he's our football coach. I don't know enough about
him. Okay, he's just very charismatic. Yeah, they kind of look
like a dork though, but they're both kind of dorks. I mean PJ.
Fleck does the whole row of the boat thing. PJ. Fleck has
no style, though. I think Pat Kelsey at least, you know,
like looks like he's a ball coach. PJ. Fleck wears a tie it
game like it's nineteen forty seven. I think of the right guy. Yeah,
you're fa I don't think that comparison's maybe their charisma and you know,
the way they it's mainly personality based. I mean, I think Pat Kelsey
has pretty good style. Some would say maybe his glasses aren't a good look,
but you know what, like it makes him stand out, and you
know he could off I think. And just to be clear, like,
I know there's probably some you know, BB and takeover going on in the
text line right now, because I know pack Kelsey hadn't coached a game,
like I'm aware, I'm not. We'll have to wait and see if either
of these two guys that took over these programs can win at the level they
need to. But we won't know that for a while. So let's just
get into the weeds here, have fun, keep this rivalry stuff going on,
and uh, you know, it's alive again and I'm enjoying it.
All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side. If
you're on hold, we'll stick stick, stick around. We'll get to you
and keep this thing rolling along. It is Coffee and Company. We are
feel about Thortons right here. On Sports Talk seven ninety I ended up just
sending a cheesy pickup line to my wife John. Oh yeah, yeah,
I said, did the sun come out? Or did you just smile.
Did you spawn yet? No, not yet. She probably won't. She'll
probably be questioning why she married me, but I'm sure she does that daily.
All right. It is coffee and company. You appreciate you guys hanging
out with us. I believe Louisville will soon get some news of a commitment.
And it's not it's not the five star freshman phenom ivers freshman to be
who, by the way, is only sixteen years old. It's not Jaden
quaintance. It is Ali Khalifa, who it sounds like is is potentially gonna
commit to Louisville any minute now. He's on his visit. So again,
we shall see, and I will say this really quickly and we can get
into it later if in fact that does end up happening. Louiell's in a
rare spot. They're not recruiting three or four guys to put them over the
edge, right, They're recruiting an entire team, which every team needs role
players. And given the production and the role that was there for Khalifa at
Byu, I can't imagine that he would think he was going to be in
line for like a huge role with thirty something minutes a game or something.
So don't know if that's gonna end up being what happens, but we shall
see. All right, let's go to the phone line. Five two five
seventy nine hundred is the number if you guys want to give us a call.
Let's go to Let's go to Jerry. Jerry, you're on Sportstock seventy
ninety. What's happening, hey, Nick? Uh? You know, I'll
always give you credit. You know, you were the first one to jump
out there on the ledge and say this Kenny Payne thing isn't working, you
know. Yeah, so I didn't want to say I had to be honest.
Hey, but here and while everybody set back and waited and waited and
waited, you know, and it drove me nuts. But I always always
took my hat off to you for that. Okay, But but here you
go today, I've got to disagree with you with two things. Okay,
got a got one hundred percent agree with John about PJ. Fleck and Pat
Kelsey. Before before Kelsey was ever really seriously mentioned, but he was,
you know, mentioned vaguely. I remember telling some of my buddies, say,
man, guy rides you at PJ. Fleck right, and they do.
And you know what's you know what the difference is Kelsey's ours now so
we so we scoffed at Fleck. But they're they're they're twins, man,
I mean they're twins. You mean as far you mean as far as like
personality, looks, everything, the way they act. I it's not familiar
with PJ. Flex, to be honest with you. Well he hit it.
Oh yeah, so I just googled him. Yeah, if you if
he walked into the room right now where I'm at, I would have not
known that was PJ. Flex. I know of him. He was at
Western Michigan now is at Minnesota. But yeah, they do look like I
don't know what I was envisioning, but yeah, I can see it totally.
Okay. And and and what did what did John say while go row
the boat? That was PJ flex thing? What was Kelsey's thing? Our
city he's running with a revival on social media? But yeah he didn't.
We did do our city. You're right, Okay. The other thing I
gotta I gotta disagree with you one hundred percent about is you made a comment
in a while ago I was driving. I'm not driving now about drove off
the road. I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. Okay, you
said Pope was too nice a guy basically to get out in the dirt with
Caliperry in so many words, right, yeah, I mean, I just
I don't see him being as cutthroat as some other coaches. But again,
I don't know. I don't know anything about Mark Pope other than what I
heard when he was introduced as the coach on Sunday. Okay, well,
here's my take on the whole thing. I'm sixty three, you're a howl
thirty five, okay, and I've seen it all. Okay, I work
for a large corporation here in Louisville, leave it unnamed. But I'm telling
you what guys would cut their mother's throat for another twenty grand a year and
another promotion and a bigger office. So you don't My take on that kind
of thing is always this, a guy that rises to the level of the
Kentucky basketball coach would sell those four or five daughters he's got for a five
star. Don't kid yourself. Okay, I think you're being naive. Well
what about that? Well, what I was saying, what I was saying
is if you if you're referring to what I said earlier in the show,
I don't. I can't see. I can see Cali Perry for sure discrediting
Pope and probably talking bad about Kentucky. I think maybe not, maybe not
because of Pope's character. What could Pope say that would make him look like
a better fit and a better recruiter, better coach than than cal Perry.
Like, I think he would probably be quiet because he has no ammunition.
I mean, he could probably find something. But like, if you're just
going to talk about, you know, why you shouldn't go to Kentucky,
shoul why you should't go to Arkansas? You should come to Kentucky, play
for me. If he starts to go resume and just starts bringing up Cali
Perry, he'd lose in every angle you'd look at it. That makes sense.
But here's here's what I'm saying. I'm not saying publicly he will,
but but the behind closed doors would recruits let him get his teeth kicked in
a couple times by Cow'll he'll he'll get down in the desperational kick in right
to that level. You don't rise to that level without having some and you
can you can throw out all the faith in religion and stuff that he's already
thrown on the table publicly. When he gets his like I said, when
he gets his teeth kicked in a couple of times, that whole thing will
change. Because again, I've watched it in the in the in the in
the sector, the business sector, during my employment with the company i'm with.
And let me tell you something, you get knocked down a couple of
times. People do crazy things, and and they're not always what they say
they are and and and it is what it is. And I think,
uh, like I said, behind closed doors, he's gonna talk trash to
then recruits as much as cal is too. And you'll never convince me otherwise.
Jerry, I appreciate the call. Yeah, I think you know you
said something there that mentioned that reminded me. I'm sorry, that reminded me
of of how he got there, right. You said you don't rise to
that job. I mean, I think any even if you're a coach at
a place like b y U. B y U is different because you know,
the the situation for lack of a better uh, for lack of you
know, the Mormon stuff. I mean again, I just sound. I'll
just deject from it. We all know b WHYU is a different school than
most because of the obvious reason. But my point is this, anybody that's
at a high level job that's not Kentucky Lortville, I mean like coaching division
and basketball, you're making millions of dollars. It's a high stakes business.
So yeah, you're gonna get in the weeds, and you know you got
to be competing. I mean, we learned Kenny didn't even try and that
was crazy. But you mentioned rise to that job at the University of Kentucky.
He didn't rise to that job. Mitch Barnhardt hired him. That's what
happened. Kenny Paynt didn't rise to the Louisville job. Josh Hurt hired him.
Like this wasn't like climbing the ladder. Mark Pope was not going to
be hired for any other job in the off season, but Kentucky opened up
and Mitch Barnhardt wanted him for you know reasons that I think we all know
that he's safe, and he's an easy guy to work with, and he's
a lot he's everything that Caliperry is not so you know, I'm sure there's
it is a cutthroat world, but I just think when it comes to I
mean it if the young man that's being recruited started hearing Mark Pope, you
know, bad mouth Caliperi or his lack of ability to coach, I mean
maybe a young kid would would eat it all up. But like I don't.
I mean that would be like if it was me in that position,
I would just talk about me and not bring up any other coach that you
could you could you could in no way make a legitimate case has has done
anything that It's it's a situation where there's no scenario you could you could claim
that Mark Pope is better at Caliperry than anything in coaching. And what I
mean by that is just accomplishments, right, getting guys to the NBA Final
Fours, all that kind of stuff, and Mark Pope may do it at
Kentucky, But you know, it's it's just a wait and see situation.
And I think when you've got kids that are being recruited by the best schools
in the country and there's a lot of money involved everywhere, I think those
those kids are more likely than not going to bypass a guy where it's a
wait and see situation. So thank you for the call, Jerry, though
I appreciate it, and I think I'm trying. I'm trying to find out
because when you said PJ. Fleck, I had a vision in my mind.
Who that was? What you mean you described the whole suit thing he
does do that. It's the face though, like I thought he had like
long hair. Oh no, no, yeah, I knew they look very
similar. Yeah yeah, And I'm sorry to just dismiss that because I don't,
you know, I I'm trying to think of I'm trying to figure out
who the cot like, what, what face and what hair was I picturing
with PJ. Fleck because it's clearly not that I can't even think of who
Minnesota's coach was it was before this is again this is another example of how
you know, my brain's just not it's not great. I remember PJ.
Fleck was at Western Michigan. I remembered he rode the boat and went uh
and we ended up taking the Minnesota job. I remember that he wore a
suit. I don't know if it's a suit, but he just wore like
a like a tie. It really weird combination of clothes. Him and Al
Golden, the old Miami coach, were the only two guys I can think
of in my in my time as a college basketball or college football superfan that
like every game they're wearing a tie, which is just uncomfortable. Honestly,
you look uncomfortable coaching, which means you're probably not coaching comfortably. But nonetheless,
the face like everything about like you know from I guess tie up,
I had a different visual of what that was. But anyways, we got
two more hours to go in a lot to get into, so stick with
us. We'll keep this thing rolling along. Coffee and Company. Feel about
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