WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.679 It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:11.880 day. Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think we are 3 00:00:12.119 --> 00:00:15.960 get off our show, idiots. The kids are crying or turning off. 4 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:19.719 The countries are screwing it up. Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold 5 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:24.039 Play Inner Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. 6 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:28.480 Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? 7 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:46.079 Now? Here's Nick Coffee? All right, let's get it started here 8 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:50.200 on another beautiful day, Coffee and Company. We are fueled by Thornton's here 9 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:53.240 on Sports Talk seven ninety Nick Coffee. That is me the company man, 10 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:58.560 mister John Allen alongside today, as mentioned, a beautiful day, hot outside, 11 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:03.520 but I'm not complaining. Today's one of those days where if you're gonna 12 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:07.359 go out and have dinner tonight, and a lot of people try not to 13 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:08.120 eat out. Well, I don't know. Maybe people eat out every night. 14 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:11.120 I'm not sure, but you know we try not to do it. 15 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:12.879 I mean, we do it more than we should. But if we're gonna 16 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:15.159 get dinner tonight, I need to tell my wife we need a patio, 17 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:19.719 like it's a patio dinner kind of night, right, John, Absolutely, 18 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:22.359 I'm already thinking that. Yeah, I mean just read my mind, just 19 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:27.239 being outside cold beer, I mean, just enjoying the beautiful weather. And 20 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:32.159 it is hot right now, like literally it's not uncomfortably hot, but it's 21 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:34.959 like mid eighties I think it is. It's the perfect day for like you 22 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:38.159 mentioned, once it gets to six o'clock, seven o'clock, maybe even eight, 23 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:41.519 that's when it's gonna be the perfect temperature to hang out outside, no 24 00:01:41.599 --> 00:01:45.159 doubt about it. And because we are still you know, we're in April, 25 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:49.120 mid midway through April, it can be hot during the day, but 26 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:52.239 one there's no humidity, like the humidity hasn't really got here yet, right, 27 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:55.359 Yeah, it's about a month away, maybe maybe longer, but as 28 00:01:55.439 --> 00:02:00.239 mentioned right around the time, really probably closer to seven. It's just I 29 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:01.719 mean, perfect outside. I mean it's not bad before then, but yes, 30 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:06.400 a beautiful day here as we sit in dark caves for the next three 31 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:08.120 hours, which you know, you know it could be worse, right, 32 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:12.919 I can't complain, But today's one of those days where I'm walking from the 33 00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:15.080 parking garage in here to our four Street Live Studios, and I'm like, 34 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:17.960 man, I wish i'd I want to be outside, but it's okay, 35 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:21.240 you know, it's the sacrifices I make for, you know, for this 36 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:23.319 show. All right. Just know that if you are out and about enjoying 37 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:25.479 this beautiful day, you can take us with you wherever you go. Listen 38 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:30.439 live on the AHET Radio ap Listen live at seven ninety Louisville dot com. 39 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:31.960 We've got a couple of guests schedule to join us today, but that doesn't 40 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:34.680 mean you guys can't be a part of the show. So if you want 41 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:37.719 to give us a call, five W two five seven seventy nine hundred and 42 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:39.360 if you want a text in the Llen and Federal Credit Union text line is 43 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:44.120 five O two six five three zero seven ninety. So coming up at around 44 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:47.919 four thirty, we'll have our weekly chat with mister Kent Spencer from WHAS eleven, 45 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:52.199 and then at five thirty we're going to bring in mister Aaron Torres Fox 46 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:55.960 Sports Radio. So a lot to discuss with those two gentlemen. Certainly regulars 47 00:02:57.000 --> 00:03:00.240 of the show, so looking forward to that. But I wanted to art 48 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:04.159 was something that you know has nothing to do with sports. Honestly, it's 49 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:06.719 probably not anything you guys tuned into here, but I just wanted to share 50 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:08.800 with you, and yes, we will talk about the big visitors on campus. 51 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:14.639 Pat Kelsey actually spoke at an event earlier today here in Louisville, filling 52 00:03:14.639 --> 00:03:19.719 in for one John Calipari, who was supposed to be the speaker at the 53 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:23.080 Cost for Kids Child Abuse Prevention lunch in. So you know, anytime this 54 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:25.639 guy gets in front of a crowd with a microphone and a camera, I 55 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:30.319 think he does what he does well, and that's selling and just you know, 56 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:34.719 he's a great speaker. I think he's a pretty good coach too. 57 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:37.639 You know, will will he win games here? I believe so, But 58 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:39.560 only time will tell. But in the meantime, right in the first few 59 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:43.080 weeks he's spent on the job, I feel like any chance he gets to 60 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:46.680 meet and it's not just things you hear on the radio or you see on 61 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:50.000 TV. I'm talking about you know, when he gets out And I mean 62 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:52.439 I've had three or four people in the last few weeks reach out to me 63 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:55.319 that have come across Pat. Rather it be it's some kind of like a 64 00:03:55.400 --> 00:04:00.319 formal dinner with you know, business leaders, that kind of stuff. I 65 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:04.599 know Mayor Greenberg met him a couple of weeks ago and spoke really highly of 66 00:04:04.680 --> 00:04:09.120 him. So we'll get into that. And also they're not saying it, 67 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:15.079 but I do believe Kentucky fans those that are like super obsessed with recruiting and 68 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:18.839 super obsessed with basketball. I mean, those that are like following this roster 69 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:24.959 situation like no other. They won't say it, but they're gonna be bothered 70 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:30.480 by Cali Perry because even if he doesn't win in Arkansas, until he plays 71 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:33.519 games or coaches games, I should say. I mean, he's gonna generate 72 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:38.560 buzz for Arkansas and it's going to get so much attention and it's going to 73 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:41.319 annoy Kentucky fans, I'm telling you, and I'm sure it already has. 74 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:44.279 So there's a lot of other things we'll get into today. But John, 75 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:48.319 when you were on vacation at Disney a couple weeks ago, Austin was filling 76 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:53.879 in and I think it was one of these Reddit links that I found to 77 00:04:54.240 --> 00:05:00.920 discuss and it was breaking down like the it was breaking down the standards that 78 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:06.759 folks have when they get on an online dating app or website, and it 79 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:10.720 really I mean, the reason I brought it up is because it stood out 80 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:14.079 to me is if like this is crazy, like that's awful, like that 81 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:16.600 would suck to be single kind of thing. But then again, I've been 82 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:20.519 out of the game so long, like you know, but they laid out 83 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:26.399 this survey, laid out what people are seeing, like what the most realistic 84 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:30.759 normal I guess standard there is, like if you're a dude and you're looking 85 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:34.560 for somebody between the ages of twenty eight and thirty five that is not obese, 86 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:39.000 meaning they can be overweight, but obese is a different level of overweight, 87 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:46.000 has a career making like at least forty thousand dollars a year, doesn't 88 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:49.120 have kids, but would potentially want to have kids. To me, this 89 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:55.600 is pretty I mean that to me seems like a wide wide range of people 90 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:58.279 like that. I think there's a lot of people that would fall into that 91 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:03.600 category. But the percentage chances of you finding someone exactly like that, it 92 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:09.199 was like zero point zero percent. And I'm like, geez, so doesn't 93 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:12.439 mean that. You know, a lot of people probably don't meet somebody on 94 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:15.000 a dating app, But it just really stood out to me, so Austin 95 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:18.279 and I got to Chad because I believe he shared this during the during the 96 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:20.959 show, and if not, I guess I'm outing him here, but he 97 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:25.319 wouldn't mind. He met his current girlfriend that he's been seeing for a long 98 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:28.600 time. I believe they lived together on an app. I don't know which 99 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:30.360 one it was, but I just started thinking, like I wouldn't even know 100 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:34.639 what to say, like, hey, how are you like? I What 101 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:38.160 would I mean? I wouldn't even know where to start. I'll say this, 102 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:42.519 I'm glad that I found my wife before the dating app craze became a 103 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:44.920 thing. We met on an app. I guess it was on Twitter, 104 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.040 not a dating app. You met your wife on Twitter? That's cool kind 105 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:53.759 of on Twitter, but we Twitter was a big like Twitter was like when 106 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:56.279 I was in high school. Twitter was the thing to be on, which 107 00:06:56.319 --> 00:06:59.600 is crazy because now a lot of people like you and even me, like 108 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:00.560 Twitter and a thing when I was in high school, but becuruse that was 109 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:04.600 a long long time ago. We had MySpace, but I remember, like 110 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:10.600 it used to be. At one point, it wasn't just the platform for 111 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:12.879 you know, the people who use it now. It was for the younger 112 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:16.759 crowd. Now there are people on Twitter that you know that are used, 113 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:18.959 that probably gone on it when you did in high school, right, but 114 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:23.399 like no, no, like nobody like fresh out of high school is active 115 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:25.680 on Twitter. You know what I mean? I wouldn't think so. Yeah, 116 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:28.120 But so you all known each other before, but like maybe connected on 117 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:30.399 Twitter. We knew we had a mutual friend. That was how we kind 118 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:33.279 of connected, but we did. We also followed each other on Twitter as 119 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:35.720 well. But you shot your shot on Twitter. Yes, that's where That's 120 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:40.759 where the initiation happened. Nice. So anyways, just to be, you 121 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:44.839 know, an idiot, a goofball, like I can be for lack of 122 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:47.879 you know, maybe something you could say on the radio. I've started emailing 123 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:53.720 my wife every day before the show starts, as if I'm like messaging her 124 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:58.360 on a dating app, and you know, I don't think i've you know, 125 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:01.720 at first she is like, you're so stupid, which is true. 126 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:05.639 But now I'm kind of like running out of like because what it always turns 127 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:11.079 into is me essentially asking what we're doing for dinner. But like I'm like, 128 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:13.279 hey, I'm Nick. Just wanted to say hello, you know, 129 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:20.240 just super formal like brief, a very you know, generic, some form 130 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:24.279 of how you're doing, I'm so and so, but today I didn't really 131 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:26.439 know what to say, like, I didn't really know where to go from 132 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:30.879 there. So she really appreciates it, though she doesn't know it. But 133 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:35.399 I know she's been telling people she thinks it's like romantic. Oh she does, 134 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:37.159 now, Yeah, I mean I think what I think she sees here 135 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:41.639 is just some effort on my end to kind of, you know, I 136 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:43.799 don't know, have a little fun. Yeah, I have fun, like 137 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:46.279 because as much as we you know, we have a great life together, 138 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:52.679 you really get on autopilot a lot with kids and you know, our schedules 139 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:56.600 and work and that kind of stuff. But at one point I may read 140 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:58.919 some of the messages I sent her just to see if, like you guys 141 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:01.840 tell me like, hey, I think that's lame, Like I don't think 142 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:07.080 that would have worked. Man. But is it really what you say or 143 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:09.000 is it more of what you're like your picture show like it's probably that more 144 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:13.240 than anything. Right, That's a good question. Or maybe how it comes 145 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:16.360 across, how whatever the words you type out come across. I just in 146 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:24.200 my mind, I cannot imagine being like like sending an initial an initial message 147 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:30.759 to someone that isn't just very like anything that's not super generic, like hey, 148 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:35.480 how are you? I don't know. I mean again, I would 149 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:39.200 suck. Yeah, if I was doing it today and I hadn't let's just 150 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:41.240 say I hadn't had been in a relationship for like two or three years or 151 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:45.200 something that might be a long time. But I feel like I would just 152 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:48.000 yelop. Well, what I was gonna say is I feel like, if 153 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:54.080 you if you do something other than the very generic introduction just to see if 154 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:54.879 you get a bite, you know what I mean. I feel like, 155 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:58.320 if you do anything else and you try to be like funny or like, 156 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:03.679 I don't know, like like very forward, you're gonna sound like you're gonna 157 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:05.799 be a dork or you're gonna be a creep, right, yeah, And 158 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:11.279 I think that's not I have this opinion. I can't prove it, and 159 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:15.919 maybe I'm way off. There's a lot of things that men dudes would not 160 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:20.279 want to be known as right and there, and there's long long lists of 161 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:24.159 them. But I think the one that that would be that would one that 162 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:26.840 would make you feel like the worst, not as if like, you know, 163 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:31.399 you wanted to ruin your life. But like, no dude would ever 164 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:33.879 want a girl to think they're a creep, right especially this day and age. 165 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:35.919 Yeah, but yet, like I just feel like it would be hard 166 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:39.639 not to do that if you were, you know, unless you were going 167 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:41.960 to be like super boring. I guess, like you know, like like 168 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:46.519 I would be. But anyways, I was also I was scrambling before the 169 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.519 show started today because I'm like, you know what I got to I have 170 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:50.840 to wait maybe till four o'clock if you'll put something together to send her away. 171 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:54.159 And again, now it's just turned into her Like once we go back 172 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:56.039 and forth a little bit, then it just turns into, uh, we're 173 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:58.639 having this for dinner or you want to make me after your show here for 174 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:03.320 dinner like that. So anyways, we do have some updated news to start 175 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:09.159 the show with. And I don't know if this was something that happened actually 176 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:11.120 I guess it happened right at three o'clock as soon as we went on the 177 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:16.279 air. And that is that Dante Maddox Junior has committed to Savior. So 178 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:24.120 that's one of the visitors that Louisville has had on campus here recently that has 179 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:30.080 chosen another school. Good thing is you have many other visitors that'll be on 180 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:33.600 campus over these next few days, including some that are here right now, 181 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:39.480 and one of those is a top ten high school senior. But he's only 182 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:45.679 sixteen years old, Jaden acquaintance, and I still think there's value in having 183 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:48.120 this guy if you don't get him, just because I do think you've got 184 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:52.600 a new coach that really hasn't really he's not been in this situation before as 185 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:56.480 far as recruiting these caliber players or at least not you know, getting him 186 00:11:56.519 --> 00:12:00.720 on campus for an official visit. But I doubt we hear anything. I 187 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.840 think this guy is going to wait it out. I mean, he is 188 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.480 the caliber player that you will never see make a quick decision. Now. 189 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:09.919 I guess if he was going to make a quick decision, he would probably 190 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:13.960 be just to follow Caliperry to Kentucky because that's who he initially had committed to 191 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:18.840 and signed with. So we'll see. If there's any update about the visit, 192 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:20.600 I'll be sure to let you guys know. I mean, heck, 193 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:24.000 some of you guys may find the information sooner than I would, because again 194 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:28.200 I know there's some that are on the Trillie Donovan discord, and obviously there's 195 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:33.120 insiders that have some private information, so we shall see. And then another 196 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:39.840 visitor is Ali Khalifa, the big man from BYU. Who I mean, 197 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:41.159 it sounds like Louisville really wants him. I don't. I mean, I 198 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:43.600 have no reason to believe that they don't really want him if they're having him 199 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:48.360 on campus for a visit. Also, he is you know, you got 200 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:52.879 thirteen scholarships to fill. I mean technically now you have nine. But I 201 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:56.679 mean, this is the kind of transfer that if you end up like getting 202 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:00.799 him, you have to keep in mind if you're a louis A fan, 203 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:03.960 Like, it's not as if you had one spot you had to go get 204 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:05.559 a really good player. You got a bunch of roster spots that you need 205 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:07.919 to fill. This is a guy who I believe will be playing his fifth 206 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:15.039 year of college basketball, and he was a role player at best at BYU. 207 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:18.440 I wouldn't imagine he would expect to be anything different here. But I'm 208 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:22.240 also not going to be you know, I'm not going to talk out of 209 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:26.200 both sides of my mouth here. I mean, other than his his assist 210 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:31.080 statistics one of the strangest stat lines I've ever seen from a college basketball player. 211 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:37.399 We talked about it like four points or something, three rebounds, thirty 212 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:41.519 five shoots like thirty five percent from the field, and I'm just spitballing here. 213 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:43.559 I don't know the actual numbers, but we've talked about it throughout the 214 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:48.000 week. This guy in nineteen minutes average four and a half assistant game, 215 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:52.000 I think it was, which is very impressive. But as a seven foot 216 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:54.440 guy, it's two hundred and sixty pounds. All the other things on his 217 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:58.600 stat line are just head scratching. So we'll see if there's any updates on 218 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:03.240 those two visitors. I will say this, I know there was a tweet 219 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:09.799 from Jonathan Blue, I believe yesterday. For those who do know Jonathan Blue 220 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:13.799 is he is. I mean, if you're from Louisville and you've been around 221 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:16.159 Louisville for a good chunk of your life, then I'm sure you're familiar with 222 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:24.960 the successful Blue family business ventures. He currently is. Blue Equity is is, 223 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:28.519 you know, is the company that he runs now. But I mean 224 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:31.799 it's there's a lot of different I mean, liquor barn I think he's the 225 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:35.440 initial owner of that so very successful, big time Louisville fan. I believe 226 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:39.600 he was a ball boy for one of the nineteen eighty eighteen championship team. 227 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:45.200 I think it was eighty six championship team. And he's very, very very 228 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:46.799 rich. I mean, I don't think he'd be bothered by me saying that. 229 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:52.200 And he posted a picture yesterday with Pat Kelcey and it says I'm all 230 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:56.360 in at Pat Kelsey, and I'm just gonna mean, look, we all 231 00:14:56.360 --> 00:14:58.679 know what this is. This is somebody you know who has the ability and 232 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:03.480 has given a lot of money before the u of L that is letting everybody 233 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:07.120 know he's all in on Pat Kelsey. So uh, people will connect dots, 234 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:09.120 There's no doubt about that, and I'm not gonna stop them. But 235 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:13.080 I'm also not going to act as if I know if it means anything. 236 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:16.159 But you know there's some that are saying, well, maybe this could be 237 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:20.080 maybe maybe Jonathan Blue. Maybe he dropped the bag off to Pat Kelsey as 238 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:26.320 mister Jayden Quaintance makes his trip to town. So you know what that means, 239 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:30.120 John, What doesn't mean If Jonathan Blue is dropping the bag and Pat 240 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:35.399 Kelsey's got the bag to I guess pursue Jayden quaintance. That means Pat Kelsey's 241 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:41.120 standing on business correct that I'm not just that that's exactly what it was. 242 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:48.399 You just laid it out perfectly. So the Maddox News, I think, 243 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:52.559 is going to be a little bit of a test here for Louisville fans because 244 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:58.480 this is your first loss. But I mean you've already landed two guards. 245 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:00.799 And by the way, they are guards, just different types of guards. 246 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:07.080 Terrence Edwards junior fats He's obviously a kind of a do it all guard, 247 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:14.320 more of a primary guard, if that makes sense, whereas Javon Hadley is 248 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:17.759 somebody that is more of a you know, he's a six to six guard. 249 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:22.360 But honestly, he rebounds probably better than he does anything else, you 250 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:26.320 know, junk buckets. I mean, he's truly a He's a do it 251 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:30.559 all player in every facet, defense, rebounding, free throw, scoring. 252 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:33.480 I mean, he's to me, I don't know if he has a weakness, 253 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:34.519 but I'm not really sure what his true strength is. And I say 254 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:37.360 that as a compliment, like he's a guy that can do a little bit 255 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:40.279 of a little bit of everything. I mean, Fats is that as well, 256 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:42.039 but more so just in a guardbral right, Like he's not crashing the 257 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:45.039 glass. I mean he can rebound, I would assume with his size. 258 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.720 So maybe Maddox's decision is based off that. But some people are saying that 259 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:55.600 because things soured with with Penny Boone on his way out of Louisville, who 260 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:59.519 transferred from Toledo. Initially, well that's where Maddis Junior is transferring from, 261 00:16:59.559 --> 00:17:02.919 is Taledo. I mean, I think we're reaching to go there, but 262 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:06.319 I don't know. I mean, I think we did learn yesterday, at 263 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:07.519 least I did. A lot of you probably already knew what that meant. 264 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:17.119 But make no mistake about it. The since deleted Instagram story from one Penny 265 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:19.680 Boone was an indication that he doesn't the lorld doesn't have money. I mean, 266 00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:23.759 he didn't say that, but and I'm not even saying that it's true 267 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:27.119 because I mean, I think what I think happened here is that he probably 268 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:30.640 thought he would get a big chunk or maybe all of his money upfront, 269 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:34.519 which is just not how it works. And nobody, anybody that would do 270 00:17:34.559 --> 00:17:41.759 that is an idiot to be honest with you, But I don't know the 271 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:48.640 passion and crazy love that a lot of people like myself included have for these 272 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:53.680 college programs that we want so badly to achieve at a high level. It 273 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:56.440 may make somebody, you know, just do it. I mean, because 274 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:00.759 right now, again, the players have all the power. So maybe you 275 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:03.400 know, it wouldn't shock me if it turns out to where you know, 276 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:07.119 you've got one of the best players in the country and he'll commit to you, 277 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:10.519 but he's got to get his money up front, so and maybe it 278 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:12.519 does happen elsewhere, But it's just super foolish because again, at any point, 279 00:18:12.599 --> 00:18:18.440 that player could just leave and technically, like you weren't paying him to 280 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:21.880 do anything as far as a basketball player or football player, you were paying 281 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:23.960 him to just exist. Which again I say it every day, it's so 282 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:30.279 stupid. How how we have to you know, handle that? All right, 283 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:30.880 So what do I want to get you on the other side? Some 284 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:33.680 numbers I want to share with you. First of all, we'll let you 285 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:37.440 hear what Pat Kelsey had to say as he filled in for John Calipari today, 286 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:41.000 and I'm sure he was probably eager to do it, meaning like, 287 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:44.440 oh, Yeah, give me a chance to get out in front of you 288 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:47.119 know, the community of Louisville here, talk at the coz there for kids, 289 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:51.000 lunch in, and you know, own the room. Given what we 290 00:18:51.079 --> 00:18:53.200 saw and heard when he was introduced as the coach, it wouldn't shock me 291 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:57.279 if he looks for those kind of opportunities just to kind of build his brand 292 00:18:57.319 --> 00:19:02.480 and build you know, more and more love for him from not only Louisville 293 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:04.559 fans, but people, you know, influential people within the city of Louisville. 294 00:19:04.640 --> 00:19:08.279 So we'll let you guys hear that. We also have an interesting breakdown 295 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:18.599 that tells us the total revenue total revenue for all of the college athletic programs 296 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:22.279 around the country. Louisville, Kentucky, Indiana all kind of finished in similar 297 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:26.279 spots. But I just you know, this is where you really get a 298 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:30.559 chance to see how much money these schools generate from their athletic department. And 299 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:34.480 I'd say, for the most part, these numbers probably won't surprise you that 300 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:37.079 much. However, there are a few that are in like the top twenty, 301 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:41.279 that I would have never guessed. But we'll get to that. I 302 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:44.240 hate like teasing. We're gonna talk numbers. We're gonna have a math quiz, 303 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:45.359 you know what I mean. It's not like we're gonna you know, 304 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:49.359 we're not gonna be that lame. We might be lame today, but you 305 00:19:49.400 --> 00:19:52.559 know, not that lame. So anyway, stick with us again. We 306 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:55.480 got a loaded show. It is Coffee and Company. 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So again, 316 00:20:23.519 --> 00:20:27.480 go to Refreshment Awards dot com or download the app today. All right, 317 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:34.319 So, John Caliperry at Arkansas still feels kind of weird, but you're starting 318 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:37.640 to see. And this was something that Louisville fans, I mean, Tuckey 319 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:41.319 fans knew it from the beginning. Louisville fans had to just accept it. 320 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:45.319 Cal moves the needle, he does, and Rick Patino moved the needle as 321 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:51.599 well. And you know he's a phenomenal coach in his own right. But 322 00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:55.759 Cal, you know, he makes big moves, right, A lot of 323 00:20:55.799 --> 00:21:03.920 what Caliperry has kind of build his I think I guess his brand right, 324 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:07.559 because the brand of Caliperry at Kentucky was not the brand that he had at 325 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:11.400 Memphis or at UMass. In fact, Cow was always known as some cheater, 326 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:14.680 which I think it's for good reason, given the fact that you know 327 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:18.160 he had two final fours vacated. But you know, either way, like 328 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:22.960 you know, he he rebranded at Kentucky and that time then Louisville got in 329 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:27.680 some trouble for some nonsense. But nonetheless a lot of Cow's brand that he's 330 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:33.720 still I guess carrying with him to Arkansas. It's all sizzle and flash. 331 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.240 There's been some substance, but that substance has been lacking in recent years, 332 00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:41.640 and that's why he wins the off season every single year because flash substance and 333 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:47.079 he's a big name making big moves. That's what he does, and that's 334 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:52.440 how he has the ability to again lose to a fifteen seed or lose to 335 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:56.400 a fourteen seed. And in the off season he'll start reeling in big recruits, 336 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:02.000 he'll start talking his talk, and when there's no actual data to assess 337 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:07.279 in regards to wins and losses, seeds, that kind of stuff, it's 338 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:12.000 just him being this big figure that people just seem to believe and think is 339 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:15.519 great, meaning, you know, like his fan base. Well, now 340 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:18.960 Arkansas fans are doing it, and I'm just curious if this is going to 341 00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:22.480 Like I'm sure there's some Kentucky fans who claim, well, I don't give 342 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:26.240 a damn what he doesn't care if I ever hear his name again, and 343 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:30.000 maybe some of you mean that. But it's still gonna be weird, right, 344 00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:33.640 It's still gonna be weird because for fourteen years, it was your guy 345 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:38.240 making these moves with all this flash and sizzle, and now it's not. 346 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:42.000 And now the guy you have is no flash, no sizl and that is 347 00:22:42.039 --> 00:22:47.799 not a criticism to Mark Pope. That's just the difference in what you have. 348 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:52.759 And they liked the flash in sizzl Kentucky fans and most people do. 349 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:56.559 Most people would, but they also wanted results to kind of go along with 350 00:22:56.599 --> 00:23:00.519 that, to justify the hype that these teams get every year, and it 351 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:03.960 just started to kind of fade away, right, So, like nobody's at 352 00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:07.440 fault here, it needed to end. You know, Cal wasn't not been 353 00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:08.799 going to change much. But I still believe he would have in fact won 354 00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:11.720 the offseason, you know what I mean, Like, I still think he 355 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:15.680 would have been able to do what he does. Maybe I'm wrong, but 356 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:21.359 we'll never know. But right now he's doing that at Arkansas. He hasn't 357 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:26.160 landed any players yet other than Big Z who followed him, and he's going 358 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:33.079 to be apparently all in on the young man from Duke Jeremy Roach that transferred. 359 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:36.119 So we'll see, you know, that could be I mean, if 360 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:41.119 it comes down to Jeremy Roach picking in between Kentucky or Arkansas, and he 361 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:48.480 picks Arkansas, that'll be the first time you see at least a notable number 362 00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:52.240 of their fans, maybe not insulting Mark Pope or saying that they hired a 363 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:56.759 bum but kind of voicing that they're a little worried or maybe they're big worried. 364 00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:59.960 You think that's fair, John, Yeah, like, because that just 365 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:03.960 kind of shows that you don't have the power that you once had because Cow's 366 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:08.119 not with you anymore. I'd make a friendly wager with a Kentucky fan. 367 00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:12.319 I mean it's got to be something like, you know that that I would 368 00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:17.160 be able to fulfill if I lost said wager and dinner. Yeah, and 369 00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:18.119 no, I want to I want even more creative than that. Okay, 370 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:21.799 but like, if there's a Kentucky fan that wants to make a wager, 371 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:25.160 you know, you tell me what I would have to do if I lose. 372 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:26.839 And again, let's be like, you know, realistic here, and 373 00:24:27.240 --> 00:24:30.799 you know you hold I'd hold you to something too, I mean you could 374 00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:34.119 be you know, and actually you don't even have to be part of it. 375 00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:37.880 It can just be a me thing unless you want to, you know, 376 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:40.119 maybe put yourself through something that you wouldn't want to do because you may 377 00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:42.359 lose this wager. I don't think there's a chance in hell that Mark Pope 378 00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:48.079 would get Jeremy roach over Cali Perry. I don't and I don't think Kentucky 379 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:49.319 fans do either. They may not say it, but like that's just like 380 00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:52.599 that, think about it, say it out loud. Mark Pope beats out 381 00:24:52.680 --> 00:25:00.319 John Calipari for one of the top guards in the transfer portal. I mean, 382 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:02.720 it could happen, but like it would have to just be money, 383 00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:06.759 right, yeah, because it wouldn't be it wouldn't be the school. Because 384 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:10.400 we've talked about that that doesn't have the pull that it had fifteen, twenty 385 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:12.880 years ago and all not that. I mean, Kentucky is Kentucky. We 386 00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:19.599 always have to acknowledge that. Yeah, but the players these days, that 387 00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:23.279 doesn't resonate with them the way that, especially now in this era of nil, 388 00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:26.599 the money talks more than anything, and that's a bigger deal. That's 389 00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:30.440 a bigger factor in that than the you know, the age of them not 390 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:33.640 knowing when Kentucky was great, you know what I mean? Yeah, and 391 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:37.079 they had been to a Final four in nine years, which you know that's 392 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:40.759 a long time, right, especially for them, but nine years ago kids 393 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:42.480 that are in college right now, you know, we're eleven if you're twenty 394 00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:45.720 years old, so you know, I'm sure they remember it. Maybe, 395 00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:49.440 But I just also think Cow will negatively recruit against Pope and Kentucky. You 396 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:53.319 know he will, He's that's Cal. I don't think Pope would do that. 397 00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:56.960 And I'm not even being critical of him for not doing that, but 398 00:25:57.079 --> 00:26:02.440 like he's not going to be throat like cow Well because Cal wants to stick 399 00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:06.079 it to Kentucky in a major way. I don't think Pope really cares about 400 00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:07.279 Cali Perry. Maybe he does, I don't know. I mean, I 401 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:10.839 think some of the things he said at his press conference, I believe they 402 00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:15.960 were pointed towards Cal. But you know, I just can't see a scenario 403 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:18.680 where Pope is, you know, in a feud with somebody. He just 404 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:22.920 seems like too nice for got to be honest with you. But if you 405 00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:25.440 if you want to, if somebody wants to make a wager, like say, 406 00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:29.960 hey, Nick, if if it comes down to Kentucky and Arkansas and 407 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:36.440 Jeremy Roach picks Kentucky over Arkansas, you've gotta you know, I mean, 408 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:38.279 I don't even know. I'll let you guys get creative. In fact, 409 00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:41.880 there may be plenty of things that, like I know, I won't and 410 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:44.119 could not do. But you may throw it out there and I may say, 411 00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:45.880 Okay, you know, I won't do it. But that's at least 412 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:48.599 a good idea. Does that makes sense? Like we could get some entertainment 413 00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:53.039 from Kentucky fans wanting to potentially torture me if I lost this at this time 414 00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:59.720 hypothetical wager. But the reason I'll bring this up is because cal Perry is 415 00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:03.640 gonna have even more resources through NIL than we even knew. Right we heard 416 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:06.400 about the amount of money that was going to be there from the Chicken guy, 417 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:14.599 but now apparently Jerry Jones is reportedly offering double whatever the Kentucky commits were 418 00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:18.160 making to get them to come to Arkansas. And obviously Jerry Jones for those 419 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:22.440 who don't know, people know Jerry Jones for the Cowboys for obvious reasons. 420 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:26.480 But he is a big time Arkansas razorback. I believe he's given a lot 421 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.839 of money to Arkansas over the years. He's not been as closely tied and 422 00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:34.839 connected to their programs, at least that I know of. Like, I 423 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:37.640 don't think there's been any kind of a riff, but like you know, 424 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:40.759 I don't see him being shown at a bunch of games. But it's well 425 00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:45.000 known that he is an Arkansas guy. Well, a guy like John Cali 426 00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:48.720 Perry leaving Kentucky to come to Arkansas. It's going to get this rich fool 427 00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:52.680 like Jerry Jones to say, oh, you know what, that's there's sizzle, 428 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:55.759 there, there's flash. Let me be a part of it. Sign 429 00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:57.319 me up. I want in. Those are the kind of things that Cali 430 00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.759 Perry can do that most coaches can't. Now can he win? Can he 431 00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.400 can he get back to a Final four? I don't know that remains to 432 00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:10.400 be seen. But wow, and some you know, some of the some 433 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:14.319 of the responses to this, like my buddy reads who I like, he 434 00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:18.319 works for barstool. He's he was, He's the ultimate Caliperry fan. Like 435 00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:22.599 I know he went to UK, likes UK basketball. I'm pretty sure he 436 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:26.039 went there whenever Cal was there and whatnot. But like he's I mean, 437 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:30.079 he's trying to do the thing like he doesn't he's not mad that Cal's gone, 438 00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.039 and he's putting up blog posted Barstool Sports like every day that you know. 439 00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:36.960 It's just it's I guess it's just it's like him crying it out through 440 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:38.400 blog. Does that make sense? Like, just cry through it, man, 441 00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:42.119 get it out of your system, because you know, like it's like 442 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:49.279 I think Kentucky fans as we speak are still content and absolutely all in with 443 00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:53.319 Pope because it's new, it's fresh. He's really reminded them of what Kentucky 444 00:28:53.359 --> 00:29:00.680 basketball is not Cali Perry specifically. But he's a petitor. Now, make 445 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.240 no m's take about it. Like he in he'll probably pick a fight when 446 00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:07.279 there's one not there for a player or something because that's just how he's wired. 447 00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:10.559 And he was your coach for fourteen years. You know what I'm saying 448 00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:14.920 is true. So I may read some of these responses later in the show 449 00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:18.119 from Kentucky fans who either are you know, like this guy who works for 450 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.720 one of the TV stations Selects and Chris Beesmore. If what truly Donovan just 451 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:25.440 posted on Discord is true, then there needs to be a change to the 452 00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:30.920 NS DOUAA in the future. Now they're claiming Cal's cheating. Oh but he 453 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.119 wasn't cheating when he was there, But he's only he's cheating out Arkansas. 454 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.839 Well it's not really cheating, but like you think it should be cheating because 455 00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:41.400 you know, he has the power, which again, like the way I 456 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:44.559 laid it out, I don't know if it really was the way I wanted 457 00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:48.839 to. But Jerry Jones isn't getting involved for Musclman because I love Muss but 458 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:52.480 muscles not Kyl. As far as the figure and the hype machine that is 459 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:59.720 John Caliperry, and he's gonna buy all the players, and he's had really 460 00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:04.880 good pl before and they've underwhelmed. But maybe he does mix it up, 461 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:10.880 like maybe some things that he was maybe some things that he refused to change 462 00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:15.640 and adjust to when he was in Kentucky because he was fearful that it would 463 00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.759 be him kind of proving that he was wrong because he's so stubborn. Well 464 00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:22.680 now he can do it at Arkansas, and you know it's just him kind 465 00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:25.240 of you know, refreshing. He's not at that point. He's not proving 466 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:27.599 it. It's not a stubborn thing at that point. So anyways, all 467 00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:34.039 right, let's hear Pat Kelcey earlier today. This was an event that John 468 00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:38.599 cal Perry was actually supposed to be speaking at because you know, he was 469 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:42.720 the keynote speaker for this event. It's the coz Air for kids luncheon. 470 00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:47.039 So I don't know how it was arranged, but I love the fact that, 471 00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:49.640 Hey, he's gone, cal Perry's out of town. He left. 472 00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:52.440 Let's see what the Louisville's coach is up to. Let's see if he can 473 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.400 give us some time. And he did, and I expect there'll be more 474 00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:00.519 sound from this to play later. But this is maybe the dreaded This may 475 00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:04.000 be the dreaded uh video play that only comes out of one side, because 476 00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:07.000 if it does, then you know, I'm gonna have to do something to 477 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:12.039 the file before I can play it. Let's see Coach Cow who's a friend 478 00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:15.359 of mine, who I know really really well. It took a while, 479 00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:22.400 but all of the Cardinal fans out there, we finally achieved it. Coach 480 00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:36.000 Cow is finally wearing red. So what if Cal like saw that and quote 481 00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:41.119 tweeted it with a hey Pat, best of luck in Louisville. I mean 482 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:45.480 that that would melt Big Blue nation, would it not? It really was. 483 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:51.839 They would combust and Cal is so petty he would do it. I 484 00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:56.440 love it. This rivalry fun again, John, It's it's it's so fun 485 00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:00.200 to observe from the outside because nothing has happened, and nothing will happen been 486 00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:02.759 From a basketball standpoint, I mean, I guess we'll see who who gets 487 00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:06.720 what recruits in that kind of thing. But they won't get to settle this 488 00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:09.920 until next December, which is a while away. So I'm excited. One 489 00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:13.759 thing about Pat Kelsey, I have a comparison. I don't know if you'll 490 00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:15.559 agree with this or not. He is careful to talk about a man, 491 00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:19.960 right, Oh okay, he's starting to remind me a lot of PJ. 492 00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:22.720 Fleck at Minnesota. I don't know how familiar you are with him for football, 493 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.200 By the way, he's our football coach. I don't know enough about 494 00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:29.480 him. Okay, he's just very charismatic. Yeah, they kind of look 495 00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:32.720 like a dork though, but they're both kind of dorks. I mean PJ. 496 00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:36.279 Fleck does the whole row of the boat thing. PJ. Fleck has 497 00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:37.400 no style, though. I think Pat Kelsey at least, you know, 498 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:42.960 like looks like he's a ball coach. PJ. Fleck wears a tie it 499 00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:45.799 game like it's nineteen forty seven. I think of the right guy. Yeah, 500 00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.480 you're fa I don't think that comparison's maybe their charisma and you know, 501 00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:53.200 the way they it's mainly personality based. I mean, I think Pat Kelsey 502 00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:55.720 has pretty good style. Some would say maybe his glasses aren't a good look, 503 00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:59.480 but you know what, like it makes him stand out, and you 504 00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:01.039 know he could off I think. And just to be clear, like, 505 00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:06.319 I know there's probably some you know, BB and takeover going on in the 506 00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.559 text line right now, because I know pack Kelsey hadn't coached a game, 507 00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:12.480 like I'm aware, I'm not. We'll have to wait and see if either 508 00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.279 of these two guys that took over these programs can win at the level they 509 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:16.960 need to. But we won't know that for a while. So let's just 510 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:21.039 get into the weeds here, have fun, keep this rivalry stuff going on, 511 00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:24.759 and uh, you know, it's alive again and I'm enjoying it. 512 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:27.759 All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side. If 513 00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.359 you're on hold, we'll stick stick, stick around. We'll get to you 514 00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:32.079 and keep this thing rolling along. It is Coffee and Company. We are 515 00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:37.039 feel about Thortons right here. On Sports Talk seven ninety I ended up just 516 00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:39.880 sending a cheesy pickup line to my wife John. Oh yeah, yeah, 517 00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:44.720 I said, did the sun come out? Or did you just smile. 518 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:47.720 Did you spawn yet? No, not yet. She probably won't. She'll 519 00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:52.000 probably be questioning why she married me, but I'm sure she does that daily. 520 00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:54.839 All right. It is coffee and company. You appreciate you guys hanging 521 00:33:54.839 --> 00:34:01.319 out with us. I believe Louisville will soon get some news of a commitment. 522 00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:07.519 And it's not it's not the five star freshman phenom ivers freshman to be 523 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:08.480 who, by the way, is only sixteen years old. It's not Jaden 524 00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:15.000 quaintance. It is Ali Khalifa, who it sounds like is is potentially gonna 525 00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:17.159 commit to Louisville any minute now. He's on his visit. So again, 526 00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:22.000 we shall see, and I will say this really quickly and we can get 527 00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:23.800 into it later if in fact that does end up happening. Louiell's in a 528 00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:29.159 rare spot. They're not recruiting three or four guys to put them over the 529 00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.519 edge, right, They're recruiting an entire team, which every team needs role 530 00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:37.159 players. And given the production and the role that was there for Khalifa at 531 00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:42.880 Byu, I can't imagine that he would think he was going to be in 532 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.559 line for like a huge role with thirty something minutes a game or something. 533 00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:49.920 So don't know if that's gonna end up being what happens, but we shall 534 00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.760 see. All right, let's go to the phone line. Five two five 535 00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:54.239 seventy nine hundred is the number if you guys want to give us a call. 536 00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:58.639 Let's go to Let's go to Jerry. Jerry, you're on Sportstock seventy 537 00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.280 ninety. What's happening, hey, Nick? Uh? You know, I'll 538 00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:06.119 always give you credit. You know, you were the first one to jump 539 00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:09.119 out there on the ledge and say this Kenny Payne thing isn't working, you 540 00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:13.639 know. Yeah, so I didn't want to say I had to be honest. 541 00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:19.599 Hey, but here and while everybody set back and waited and waited and 542 00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.079 waited, you know, and it drove me nuts. But I always always 543 00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:24.599 took my hat off to you for that. Okay, But but here you 544 00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:30.599 go today, I've got to disagree with you with two things. Okay, 545 00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:37.960 got a got one hundred percent agree with John about PJ. Fleck and Pat 546 00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:45.599 Kelsey. Before before Kelsey was ever really seriously mentioned, but he was, 547 00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:49.159 you know, mentioned vaguely. I remember telling some of my buddies, say, 548 00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.400 man, guy rides you at PJ. Fleck right, and they do. 549 00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:57.679 And you know what's you know what the difference is Kelsey's ours now so 550 00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:01.159 we so we scoffed at Fleck. But they're they're they're twins, man, 551 00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:04.800 I mean they're twins. You mean as far you mean as far as like 552 00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:09.159 personality, looks, everything, the way they act. I it's not familiar 553 00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:12.800 with PJ. Flex, to be honest with you. Well he hit it. 554 00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:16.440 Oh yeah, so I just googled him. Yeah, if you if 555 00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:19.679 he walked into the room right now where I'm at, I would have not 556 00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:21.480 known that was PJ. Flex. I know of him. He was at 557 00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:25.440 Western Michigan now is at Minnesota. But yeah, they do look like I 558 00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:29.079 don't know what I was envisioning, but yeah, I can see it totally. 559 00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:32.400 Okay. And and and what did what did John say while go row 560 00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:37.119 the boat? That was PJ flex thing? What was Kelsey's thing? Our 561 00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:40.920 city he's running with a revival on social media? But yeah he didn't. 562 00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:45.079 We did do our city. You're right, Okay. The other thing I 563 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:50.079 gotta I gotta disagree with you one hundred percent about is you made a comment 564 00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:52.880 in a while ago I was driving. I'm not driving now about drove off 565 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:55.320 the road. I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. Okay, you 566 00:36:55.400 --> 00:37:00.920 said Pope was too nice a guy basically to get out in the dirt with 567 00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:05.760 Caliperry in so many words, right, yeah, I mean, I just 568 00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.480 I don't see him being as cutthroat as some other coaches. But again, 569 00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:12.320 I don't know. I don't know anything about Mark Pope other than what I 570 00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.800 heard when he was introduced as the coach on Sunday. Okay, well, 571 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:20.360 here's my take on the whole thing. I'm sixty three, you're a howl 572 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.199 thirty five, okay, and I've seen it all. Okay, I work 573 00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:30.280 for a large corporation here in Louisville, leave it unnamed. But I'm telling 574 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:35.440 you what guys would cut their mother's throat for another twenty grand a year and 575 00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:39.880 another promotion and a bigger office. So you don't My take on that kind 576 00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:45.320 of thing is always this, a guy that rises to the level of the 577 00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:51.360 Kentucky basketball coach would sell those four or five daughters he's got for a five 578 00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:55.000 star. Don't kid yourself. Okay, I think you're being naive. Well 579 00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:58.599 what about that? Well, what I was saying, what I was saying 580 00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:01.320 is if you if you're referring to what I said earlier in the show, 581 00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:07.039 I don't. I can't see. I can see Cali Perry for sure discrediting 582 00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:12.440 Pope and probably talking bad about Kentucky. I think maybe not, maybe not 583 00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.519 because of Pope's character. What could Pope say that would make him look like 584 00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:20.280 a better fit and a better recruiter, better coach than than cal Perry. 585 00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:22.440 Like, I think he would probably be quiet because he has no ammunition. 586 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:25.000 I mean, he could probably find something. But like, if you're just 587 00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:28.800 going to talk about, you know, why you shouldn't go to Kentucky, 588 00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:30.000 shoul why you should't go to Arkansas? You should come to Kentucky, play 589 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:34.000 for me. If he starts to go resume and just starts bringing up Cali 590 00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:37.280 Perry, he'd lose in every angle you'd look at it. That makes sense. 591 00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.480 But here's here's what I'm saying. I'm not saying publicly he will, 592 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:46.280 but but the behind closed doors would recruits let him get his teeth kicked in 593 00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:51.719 a couple times by Cow'll he'll he'll get down in the desperational kick in right 594 00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:57.079 to that level. You don't rise to that level without having some and you 595 00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.320 can you can throw out all the faith in religion and stuff that he's already 596 00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:04.679 thrown on the table publicly. When he gets his like I said, when 597 00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:07.800 he gets his teeth kicked in a couple of times, that whole thing will 598 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:12.039 change. Because again, I've watched it in the in the in the in 599 00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:16.039 the sector, the business sector, during my employment with the company i'm with. 600 00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:21.480 And let me tell you something, you get knocked down a couple of 601 00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:24.519 times. People do crazy things, and and they're not always what they say 602 00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:29.280 they are and and and it is what it is. And I think, 603 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:32.480 uh, like I said, behind closed doors, he's gonna talk trash to 604 00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:37.880 then recruits as much as cal is too. And you'll never convince me otherwise. 605 00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:42.320 Jerry, I appreciate the call. Yeah, I think you know you 606 00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.239 said something there that mentioned that reminded me. I'm sorry, that reminded me 607 00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:50.000 of of how he got there, right. You said you don't rise to 608 00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:52.920 that job. I mean, I think any even if you're a coach at 609 00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:54.400 a place like b y U. B y U is different because you know, 610 00:39:54.519 --> 00:40:00.119 the the situation for lack of a better uh, for lack of you 611 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.880 know, the Mormon stuff. I mean again, I just sound. I'll 612 00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.519 just deject from it. We all know b WHYU is a different school than 613 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:09.840 most because of the obvious reason. But my point is this, anybody that's 614 00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:14.480 at a high level job that's not Kentucky Lortville, I mean like coaching division 615 00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.880 and basketball, you're making millions of dollars. It's a high stakes business. 616 00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:20.719 So yeah, you're gonna get in the weeds, and you know you got 617 00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:22.920 to be competing. I mean, we learned Kenny didn't even try and that 618 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:27.079 was crazy. But you mentioned rise to that job at the University of Kentucky. 619 00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:29.880 He didn't rise to that job. Mitch Barnhardt hired him. That's what 620 00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:34.360 happened. Kenny Paynt didn't rise to the Louisville job. Josh Hurt hired him. 621 00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:37.599 Like this wasn't like climbing the ladder. Mark Pope was not going to 622 00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:40.599 be hired for any other job in the off season, but Kentucky opened up 623 00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:45.519 and Mitch Barnhardt wanted him for you know reasons that I think we all know 624 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:47.199 that he's safe, and he's an easy guy to work with, and he's 625 00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:52.599 a lot he's everything that Caliperry is not so you know, I'm sure there's 626 00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:57.440 it is a cutthroat world, but I just think when it comes to I 627 00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:04.000 mean it if the young man that's being recruited started hearing Mark Pope, you 628 00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:07.519 know, bad mouth Caliperi or his lack of ability to coach, I mean 629 00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.159 maybe a young kid would would eat it all up. But like I don't. 630 00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:12.719 I mean that would be like if it was me in that position, 631 00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:15.400 I would just talk about me and not bring up any other coach that you 632 00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:20.239 could you could you could in no way make a legitimate case has has done 633 00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:24.840 anything that It's it's a situation where there's no scenario you could you could claim 634 00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:30.360 that Mark Pope is better at Caliperry than anything in coaching. And what I 635 00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:32.400 mean by that is just accomplishments, right, getting guys to the NBA Final 636 00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:35.280 Fours, all that kind of stuff, and Mark Pope may do it at 637 00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:37.519 Kentucky, But you know, it's it's just a wait and see situation. 638 00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:42.760 And I think when you've got kids that are being recruited by the best schools 639 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:45.840 in the country and there's a lot of money involved everywhere, I think those 640 00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:51.280 those kids are more likely than not going to bypass a guy where it's a 641 00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:53.800 wait and see situation. So thank you for the call, Jerry, though 642 00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:58.960 I appreciate it, and I think I'm trying. I'm trying to find out 643 00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:00.880 because when you said PJ. Fleck, I had a vision in my mind. 644 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:04.400 Who that was? What you mean you described the whole suit thing he 645 00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:06.920 does do that. It's the face though, like I thought he had like 646 00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:08.559 long hair. Oh no, no, yeah, I knew they look very 647 00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:13.079 similar. Yeah yeah, And I'm sorry to just dismiss that because I don't, 648 00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.840 you know, I I'm trying to think of I'm trying to figure out 649 00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:20.960 who the cot like, what, what face and what hair was I picturing 650 00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:23.360 with PJ. Fleck because it's clearly not that I can't even think of who 651 00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:29.199 Minnesota's coach was it was before this is again this is another example of how 652 00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:32.639 you know, my brain's just not it's not great. I remember PJ. 653 00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:36.920 Fleck was at Western Michigan. I remembered he rode the boat and went uh 654 00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:39.599 and we ended up taking the Minnesota job. I remember that he wore a 655 00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:42.599 suit. I don't know if it's a suit, but he just wore like 656 00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.760 a like a tie. It really weird combination of clothes. Him and Al 657 00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:49.320 Golden, the old Miami coach, were the only two guys I can think 658 00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:52.519 of in my in my time as a college basketball or college football superfan that 659 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.360 like every game they're wearing a tie, which is just uncomfortable. Honestly, 660 00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:59.920 you look uncomfortable coaching, which means you're probably not coaching comfortably. But nonetheless, 661 00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:04.039 the face like everything about like you know from I guess tie up, 662 00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:07.239 I had a different visual of what that was. But anyways, we got 663 00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:09.360 two more hours to go in a lot to get into, so stick with 664 00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:14.559 us. We'll keep this thing rolling along. Coffee and Company. Feel about 665 00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:17.519 Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety