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A good afternoon, Welcome behind the Ball

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here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
I'm your host, Jay Gonzalez. My

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partner, Steve Rivera has another day
off. He's off to Vegas for his

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sixtieth birthday, which kind of makes
me feel old because I've known him since

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he was a young man. But
he's he's taken a couple of days off.

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He will be back on Monday.
I've got one or intern wan and

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here to work the board for his
first time. We broke Ryan in yesterday

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one, we're breaking in today.
Then I've got one of my old friends,

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and I mean old, not in
a like year old, just that

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we've known each other for a really
long time. But Dave Silver, former

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keag On sportscaster, has been working
at the U of A, been a

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fundraise over there for a lot of
year. Has been in Tucson for forty

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some years, right, forty plus, yeah, forty plus here, So

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Dave here, uh, he and
I go way back. He's seen a

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lot of the things that I've seen
in u A athletics. Continue to just

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be involved, right, no stuff, be pitch titching to what's going on.

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So Dave, welcome, thank you
for being here today. It's great

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to be here. I'm glad.
Of course. I've known both you guys

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for a long time, so it's
good to be here to kind of fill

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in for Steve on his big birthday
weekend. I've had one of those myself.

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Yeah, a few years ago.
Yeah, so I know what that's

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like. Yeah, I'm you know, I'm headed for I'm signing up for

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Medicare this this exactly? I can
tell I give you some tips. But

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I was joking with Dave. He
sent me a photo of him for for

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our social media, and I said, there's no gray hair in this photo,

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so what the heck's going on now? I got to send that one

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out to you. So that was
back in the k Gun years. And

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guy Ashley, who I just saw
a couple of days ago, in fact,

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is a great photographer and near the
end of my time there, he

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took off. He took a lot
of pictures of us. Yeah, it

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was it was terrific. So that's
one I'm I really like, but I

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do have much more dark Yeah,
well you look good. You look good,

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and you know what, no no
reason we can't look young in our

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photos, right, no matter what. So but again, thanks Dave for

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being here. You know, we'll
we'll go through a lot of stuff,

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a lot of things happening. It's
been a busy day already here. Arizona

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baseball already played. They played at
ten o'clock this morning, so they're done.

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They they're at Utah. They unfortunately
got beat six to one. The

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Utah picture through a complete game and
it was a really fast game, barely

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lasted about two and a half hours, and but the Arizona got beat.

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It's a big series because Utah is
not one game behind them in the in

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the standing. So we're gonna get
chip on chip hail on sometime next week

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because then they got Oregon State coming
in for their last last series of the

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regular season. But you know,
Arizona baseball has been, you know,

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the way we described it, kind
of under the radar, got off to

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not a great start, they had
a losing record. Then when on this

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winning streak and now they're the first
place in the league. That's kind of

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how I've been viewing it too,
just as a as a fan. There

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was a moment in time where they
were really not playing well at all,

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right, having a big, long
losing streak, and then all of a

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sudden they turned it around and had
a big, long winning streak. So

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I'm happy for Chip, you know, you and I again, we've known

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him for a long time and have
him do well here is only good.

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And you know, it's really kind
of a fun time of year when those

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playoffs roll around. If they're at
high corvid Field, it's been a good

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advantage for them, So they're gonna
probably get a regional I would assume,

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really well, that was part one
of the conversations that they that they were

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having. That the that the the
announcmers were having was that somebody put out

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a mock bracket and had no PAC
twelve teams hosting. No, and really

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like and they're they're and they and
they're saying like, wait a minute,

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how do you not have even the
PAC twelve champion, yeah, hosting?

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How do you do that? And
there were like eight SEC teams or something

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like that, right, which is
per usual, and that that happens.

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It seems. It seems it happens
more in baseball and softball and anything else

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that somehow the SEC gets all this
love. I'm sorry, you know,

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you put Arizona in the SEC.
You know, they maybe they don't win

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it, maybe they're not the best
team in there, and they like as

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you said, they had struggle as
the beginning of the year. But they're

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a top two or three team over
there, and so you can't tell me

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that they shouldn't be hosting if they're
the champions. I mean, they're ranked

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in the top twenty five, and
so that's gonna be something that's gonna probably

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at least be you know, on
their resume. I can't imagine them at

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least not getting the first weekend of
games here, especially the way High Corbett

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Field can draw fans and the time
of year it's nice and warm and people

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it looks good on TV. So
I'd be surprised if they don't. Well,

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I wouldn't because really, because I'm
not because I don't think they deserve

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it, just because we've seen it. I mean, there was that one

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a few years ago, and this
is the one that blew my mind and

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I lost my mind on social media
when a five hundred team Florida got in

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and Arizona did not. When Arizona, you know, finished like fourth in

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the league or something like that and
they didn't get in, but a five

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hundred Florida team did, and it
was like, what what are we doing?

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But I'll wait to get pissed off
until it happens. They have to

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go to missisi Regional and then they
were super Regional the last time they were

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the last time they were in the
World Series, they they they they didn't

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host and then they had to go
play a Super Regional somewhere else and I

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think it was it was Mississippi State. Yeah, and that's they went to

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the They went to the College Road
Series that year. So anyways, good

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luck to Chuck Cecil. So anyways, a couple of great guests today,

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continuing the conversation that that my guest
host yesterday Adam Gonzalez my son talking about

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NBA players playing in the NFL,
NFL players playing in the NBA. When

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that guy then came up earlier in
the week with Austin Rivers saying he could

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put he could pick thirty guys from
the NBA who could play in the NFL

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right now, And then he said, but you can't find thirty guys in

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the NFL who could play in the
NBA. That's been a topic of conversation

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across all the talk shows and TV
shows and whatnot, and we've not been

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you know, we're one of them. We had the conversation yesterday. But

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first person I thought of when that
conversation came up was Calvin E. Font

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And you know as well know Calvin
came in as a basketball recruit, highly

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rated rap back. Well, all
of Loot's recruits were highly rated, right,

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but he came in to play for
Lout wound up playing on the football

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team. Was one of the best
players and a star on the ninety eight

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team, had everything to do with
that team that went twelve and one.

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So he did both. So I
invited him on the show. He couldn't

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come on until today, but he
will be on today in about in about

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ten minutes, ten to fifteen minutes. But we'll have that conversation. Yeah,

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it's a good subject. There's always
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oh, Lebron could be a great
tight end. You know, things

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right that I just don't know about
these NBA guys if they could really take

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the physical I hate the word physicality, but that word, right, and

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that part of football, I don't
know. I don't know how many hits

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they could take. Well, and
that's been that's the people who disagree with

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that, who don't think that could
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Say. Okay, whoever it is, whether it's Lebron any other big

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guy who comes in, and when
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you're talking guys who are tight ends
or received wide receivers, right, because

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as we were talking about yesterday,
guys in the NBA are all big.

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They're all big guys, they're sick, you know, and they're really good.

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Ones are six seven, six eight. Well that's huge for an NFL

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player, those guys. You know, they don't have six seven and six

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eight guys running around all over the
place. And but saying that, those

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guys they may be able to take
a few hits, but three four games

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into the season, they're the hell's
beat out of them there and they're on

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the sidelines. I mean, you
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good baseball basketball combinations. I mean, going back all way back to like

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Dave de Busher for the New York
Knicks. Right, he pitched, Yeah,

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and he played for the Knicks and
one couple NBA titles. Yeah,

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but the football basketball, I'm not
sure. Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates,

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Right, Antonio Gates played He didn't
even play college football. He played college

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basketball. Then, you know,
guys at the Hall of Fame tight end.

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But that's kind of it, right, Tony was great. Yeah,

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and Tony was I mean, he
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But he was a really good basketball
player. But again, what what

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what's tony six six, six sixty
seven? Right? You can't be much

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bigger than that and play in the
NFL. Right, I was gonna say,

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I think, you know, when
they're younger, maybe that happens a

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little more often, but when they
really do get to the higher levels,

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it's tough. It's tough. Mean
you you know you really want to get

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banged around like that. Yeah.
Well, the guy that I brought up

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yesterday, and you know, we
all kind of nodded our heads on and

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that was Remember Fendyanobun came here,
big guy, you know, he he

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you know, he was okay guy
in basketball? He wasn't you know,

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I don't think he even never was
a starter or anything. But I remember

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seeing him on the court for the
first time. He said, why is

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that guy here? And is he
not at Arizona Stadium? Why is he

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not playing football? He ended up
getting drafted by the Rams, six round

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pick of the Rams. Had a
cup of coffee with the Rams. But

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you know it didn't didn't last a
whole long time. But that's the one

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guy you know who from Arizona who
did both. Now Calvin didn't never,

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didn't play pro football, but you
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They didn't have fullbacks anymore. It's
not a position that exists exactly, and

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it really doesn't exist anymore today.
But you know, he was one guy.

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But you know, Fendy from a
physical standpoint, I mean, try

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and think of another guy who was
as physically imposing as him. By that,

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by that, I mean just thick, physical, looked like a guy

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that you wouldn't want to run into, right, because we talked about you

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know, DeAndre Ayton a physical specimen, but not physical specimen in from a

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football standpoint, right, just for
a seven footer, the guy was built

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like you know, you know,
brick. You know what, Fendy looked

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like a tight end when he walked
on the floor. Think about Zach Randolph

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when he was at Michigan State in
that infamous moment when Gilbert Arenez ran into

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him at the final four. Yeah, that was kind of a football move.

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And Zach is probably six eleven seventy
five pounds, right, So I

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don't know, I don't see him
being able to even get on a football

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field, right, too big,
too big, too tall, big,

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and he's not going to have the
feet for you know, to get by

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a cornerback or whatever. And then
the whole you know they talk about,

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you know, basketball players that you
know you can't put your hands on them,

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right, Well, that's that's what
they do in the NFL. And

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being able to figure that out.
A guest on Dan Patrick, and I

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still again cannot think of his name, but he's the guy that often fills

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in for for Danny. He played
football at Princeton. I don't know if

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you the guy that I'm talking about, and he does some he does some

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radio radio play by play, but
he said his comment was I could see

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an NFL guy playing in the NFL, but he's gonna need like two years

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to get ready for that. If
you're telling me you're gonna drop him in,

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you know, basketball season's gonna end
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camp, I'm gonna say, no, way, not one. There's not

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one guy in the NFL who could
deal with the physicality. And by that

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he meant, you know, the
hands and the grabbing and the and the

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movements and all the things that go
the techniques that go in with being a

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receiver or being a defensive lineman or
an offensive lineman or whatever. He say,

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None of those guys would know how
to do that. And there's some

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skill to that that you start learning
when you play Pop Warner. I can

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see. Maybe you know, Dion
was probably a good basketball player, probably

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in high school. I'm sure he
played everything. Kenny Lofton, you know,

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did the crossover to baseball from basketball. But okay, Kenny Lofton's good.

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He would have had to play running
back. Oh yeah, right.

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He was six two six one.
You know, he was five tens.

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He was five ten, he was
five eleven. I remember that we made

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a big deal about the fact he
could dunk and he wasn't six foot Okay,

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five eleven and you looked at him
and you thought, Okay, he's

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a good physical looking kid for basketball, but put a football uniform on him.

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You know, I don't know if
he could be a good running back

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because I just don't know that he'd
be powerful in that right, right,

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you know, it's it's a good
it's a good theory, and there just

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aren't that many people who've done it, like Kelvin would be a good,

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good person to talk to about how
he did it, right. I mean

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Bo Jackson, Okay, the ultimate
right incredible football player, but he had

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he played baseball. I don't know
that Bo Jackson can be a you know,

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a guard or forward in the NBA
one because he'll just knock people over

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and fall out in five minutes.
Right he was two, he's too,

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he was too he was what a
what a body he had on him when

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he was in his prime. Yeah. Anyways, all right, so we

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went went along waves with that conversation. Uh, our second guest today,

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we're bringing in a Kevin guy.
Uh. We know him in Tucson as

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a He and his wife Kathy owned
the Tucson Sugar Skulls. But on the

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other side of it. He's the
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The rat and the Sugar Sculls play
tomorrow here in Tucson. So I

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thought i'd bring him in and we'll
just talk about this game coming up tomorrow.

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Uh, they're trying to make this
a great rivalry. Arizona's beating him

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a couple of times, so I
know Kevin doesn't like that. I mean,

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he loves his team to win,
the team that he owns to win,

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but not when they're playing Rattlers.
It's an interesting comedy. You know,

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we made a lot of big you
know, there's a lot of stuff

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made about it when the team was
first formed. Right then, we're kind

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of past that. Now he's the
coach of the Rattlers. They're coming in

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and they've got they've got this game
coming up tomorrow. With that, neither

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neither team off to a great start. The Sugars calls are one and four.

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They're trying to get off the schneid
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an uncharacteristic three and three, so
that they're you know there, It's kind

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of like the league is caught up
right. The league has expanded they got

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a lot of new teams, and
some of those new teams are pretty good.

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Yeah, they're pretty good. So
we'll talk to Kevin about this game

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coming up, and then you and
I we're gonna have a conversation about Steve

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Kerr, who's in town for a
very special location today. But we'll get

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to that after the break. So
let's go and take our break. We're

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we can get calviny fun on the
phone. We'll kick this subject around a

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little bit more and then just get
some of his thoughts on he's a basketball

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coach, he's still a football guy. Calvin's got a lot of knowledge,

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so we'll pick his brain on a
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And a special guest on the phone,

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Calvin Ephon, former Arizona football and
basketball player and want to be part of

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the conversation that we've been having about
this. Guys who can plain in the

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NBA, in the NFL. But
Calvin, thanks for being here today.

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We do appreciate it. Oh Man, appreciate appreciate you guys having me off.

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All right, So Calvin, I'm
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I don't know if you saw the
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There's been a lot of commerce mender
Tusay, a lot of conversation about it

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this week on every talk show in
America, including ours. He said that

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you can put thirty he could put
thirty, pick thirty NBA players and put

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them in the NFL right now,
and they can play, but you can't

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say the same thing about putting NFL
players in the NBA. I immediately thought

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of you when I heard that,
because you did both at Arizona. You

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did both very well. You're part
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ever in ninety eight win twelve and
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first of all, just give me
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that. Well, I thought the
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that, because you know, I'm
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You know, the type of athletes
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the guys that have a little size
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The more are smaller guys, you
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on the skinny guys that have a
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the guys that are bill solid,
I think they'll be perfectly fine out

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there. A lot of people over
the years have talked about Lebron could have

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been a great tight end and the
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I mean that might be a little
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mean, what do you think about
let's say, let's use Lebron as the

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model for that. Mhmm, well, well, you know, the first

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thing I think about is Grunk,
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sixty six at least, so I
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it, maybe more of a tight
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man, I mean you just look
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Me and him was recruited real heavy
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both was thinking of coming here together, but he decided on Cow. But

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but you know, when I think
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I think he would have been the
perfect guy as well. You know,

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you know I was thinking about too. And I don't remember exactly how

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far he went in his career,
but Nick Foles was a very good basketball

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player. He used to around McHale
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and I don't think he ever played
maybe you know, in high school.

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I would assume he was a good
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was. I actually saw that Brandy
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saw this tall guy over there shooting
shots, and I'm like, they got

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a new recruiting And then I walked
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wait a minute, that's me.
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with like four or five little kids
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and I think he was like big
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he was over there man, swishing
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definitely could have played some college ball
somewhere. Remember Craig Bergman, right,

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that's a name from I don't know, it's probably before you was late eighties,

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all right, quarterback and you know, came off the bench, so

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there were there was a little of
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I got You know what I did, guys, I made the list of

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who I saw was some of the
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that could play basket basketball and from
football that could play uh basketball, that

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could play football. So I came
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That's because we played on the inn. When I went to football,

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we played on an Inner Mules team
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was the m v P of the
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was a ridiculous athlete. Jeremy McDaniel. What was what was his game?

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What was he a great shooter?
What? What did he what was he

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good at? Slasher? He was? He was a slasher man. I

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mean, I'm talking about ridiculous athlete. I mean, if you know anything

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about him, he jump out the
gym, just just a guy that got

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to the bucket, would dunk on
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just a total athlete and ridiculously competitive. Right, and I got Nick Foses

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on my list for sure. A
name you got. Guys might not remember.

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What about Peter Hansen? Oh yeah, he was like six eight right

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the exactly, but you know,
he was a walk onto the team and

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he found he found a role as
a field goal block, right field goal

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intimidator, I'll say exactly. He's
still coaching. I want to say,

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he's been coaching like at Stanford another
big programs through the years. He's had

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a nice long career. Oh in
the NFL, he's with the Denver Broncos

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linebacker coach. Oh wow, okay, good for him. You know you

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brought that up. I mean that
again that you know that Washington game up

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there, You know that you guys
came back and and and one. At

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the last second year, he he
he blocked one, and then I think

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he intimidated one, right exactly.
Man, huge, huge man that was.

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That was one of our sayings.
Man, every walk one got to

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feel like they a star player and
they can get it done. And he

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was a guy that got it done
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game, right right, Okay,
I got o j O j our team.

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Right well, he was he was
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with the ninety the He walked on
and played with the basketball team as a

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walk on for a while, right
exactly. He was there for a while.

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Right there. I think I think
he ends up, you know,

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Coach asked him to move on because
I think he was holding up Jason Terry

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a little bit, right. A
man can't let you disturb him, you

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know. But other guys I got
on the list. The name you guys

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may not know, Jeff Nado.
Okay, I remember the receiver. Yes,

408
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:33.960
yes, he was a receiver.
A world class high jumper. Okay,

409
00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.359
he high jumped for the track team. He was a seven foot high

410
00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:40.799
jumper. Wow. And when I
tell you he jumped, he was only

411
00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:44.880
about five ten, but he jumped
out the gym. Wow. Okay,

412
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:51.920
I'm telling you who else? Richard
Richard Dice. Okay, Richard Dice was

413
00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:55.359
a real good high school player and
we used to have some wars over there

414
00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:59.880
in the rec center after basketball season
when I was a football player, we

415
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.559
some wars with some of those guys, and Richard was a guy that sometimes

416
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:07.079
gave us problem. He would be
He would be a mean dude on the

417
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:08.440
court, is what I would think, because he was just sort of a

418
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:14.279
not take any crap from anybody kind
of guy. Yea intimidator. Yes,

419
00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:18.960
yes. My last guy is t
mac okay, Yeah, yeah, I

420
00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:22.440
mean you see the things that he
do with forfeit to throw that ball up

421
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:26.400
in there. You see what he
do. I mean, So, I

422
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:29.359
mean he longed like six' five, so he has the lens. He

423
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:33.200
kind of reminds me of Michael Dixon
as far as size is concerned and everything

424
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:37.039
like that. Have you seen him
play basketball? Yeah him, Yes,

425
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:41.440
I saw some of his high school
famis wow. Well, and I guess

426
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:44.680
like he's like a not I don't
want to say world class, but he's

427
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:48.680
like a top He would be a
top collegiate volleyball player if he was playing

428
00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:52.200
volleyball, right, yes, don't
surprise me at all. And I'm gonna

429
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:56.480
give you quick names. On basketball, I think Ben Davis could have been

430
00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:00.319
a great defensive tackle. Michael Dickson
bringing that name up again. I think

431
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.640
he could have been a world class
wide receiver because he's one of the strongest

432
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.640
guys to play at Arizona as far
as basketball is concerned, and he had

433
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.480
one of the highest repetitions in the
NBA as far as bench press concern of

434
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:19.759
one eighty All right, okay,
Danley Johnson linebacks DANLEYE. Johnson, Okay,

435
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:25.880
Jason Terry defensive back. He loved
football. He had a complete Arizona

436
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:32.000
uniform helmet, so I shouldn't be
telling that, but he had a complete

437
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:34.319
uniform and he used to word every
game when we played, he would be

438
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:41.039
full uniform like he was in the
game. And Ben Matherin wide receiver dB.

439
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:47.680
And Hassan Adams athlete, Oh Hassan
who could jump the gym? Yeah

440
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:49.839
yeah, yeah, man. You
know, we we had some great athletes

441
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:53.839
around Arizona that could could have played
both sports at any time. Okay,

442
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:59.559
Now the question around that is could
those guys and and tell me about your

443
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:04.480
first six bears with it? Could
those guys take ahead? Uh? All

444
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.960
the guys that I named, yes, sir, Yes, sir, yes

445
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:11.160
sir, and could give him out
all the games that I can name.

446
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:12.640
And you know, when I went
back out, I hadn't played football for

447
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.799
two and a half years. I
came you know, my basketball scot So

448
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.839
it was two years I couldn't play
football. And then when I finally got

449
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:25.920
out there, you know now,
the only big hit I remember taking with

450
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.240
chester Burn at Okay chester Burn that
he knocked He knocked me out one dad

451
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:33.559
practice. He got me, He
got me. Uh, you know when

452
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.400
I first got back out there from
football. But I needed that to get

453
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:38.839
back aclimated to you know how it
was. But no, I think all

454
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.680
the guys that I named, I
think they physical enough to get it done.

455
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:45.559
Yeah. Interesting. Interesting? How
about Lance Briggs? Would you think

456
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:49.480
he could have? Did he have
much of a basketball skill? Man?

457
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:53.599
Bridge just got so big so fast, he got so big. I can't

458
00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:56.839
I can't really give Briggs that when
I can't give him that he got.

459
00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.400
I'm gonna tell you some guy,
a guy that had some athleticism that you

460
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:06.440
wouldn't believe was a great dunker.
Frank Middleton. Oh wow, I get

461
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:11.799
in front of that. Wow three. Yeah. Yeah, but his arms

462
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.319
were his arms were really long.
And when I tell you, Frank would

463
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.200
almost turn the ram down. They
had to tell him to McHale in the

464
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:25.359
summertime, like no duncan and mchel
Yeah, Frank was a great athlete,

465
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:27.799
man, I can tell you from
personal experience, and you know, unfortunately

466
00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:32.279
he passed away a couple of years
ago. But Julius Holt was a heck

467
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:34.559
of a basketball player and a football
player. Yeah, from the UFA back

468
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:38.279
in the in the eighties. He
was a lefty and we would play with

469
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:42.279
him pickup games and he would plow
into you. But he was a really

470
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:45.839
good athlete. Well he was a
nose tackle, right, yeah, but

471
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:48.319
he could. He's like, I
see that. I remember seeing them when

472
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:51.400
he was younger. Yeah. We
he wasn't as big for sure when he

473
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:55.519
was younger in his football playing days. Yeah. Yeah, we're talking to

474
00:30:55.519 --> 00:31:00.359
Calviny fund form Arizona player. I'm
gonna call you an NBA, NFL expert,

475
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.279
Callvin, because that was some great
stuff for some of these guys.

476
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:07.440
But a great part of the conversation. You know, did you I mean,

477
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:10.759
did you feel like when you went
to football. I mean you said

478
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:12.440
a minute ago that it took you
some time to get used to it,

479
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:18.039
but you became one of the more
physical players on that ninety eighteen largely because

480
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:21.440
of the position you played. You
sort of got into it. I'm guessing,

481
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:25.720
yeah, yeah, no, I
you know, I was a football

482
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.000
player growing up. Middle school was
when I first actually started playing. I

483
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:32.240
played my seventh eight grade year.
I missed my ninth grade year. And

484
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:34.519
then because I was thought I was
gonna be a complete basketball player, and

485
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:37.839
a guy on the football team started
that I played against in middle school.

486
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:41.519
He started acting like he was a
better player, and I had to go

487
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.400
shut him up. But I had
to go shut him up. You know,

488
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.000
that's my boy, right, ended
up playing at New Mexico as well,

489
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:52.599
New Mexico State. My my,
my, my teammate in the backfield,

490
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.319
Keela McNeil. But anyway, no, you know, my I was

491
00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:00.680
always aggressive foot as far as basketball
was concerned. Was a defender. He

492
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:05.279
was a lot you know, was
into the defensive game, the physical game

493
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.200
of it. So when I went
to football, it won a real big

494
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.359
change for me. Honestly, Uh, you know, I was kind of

495
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:14.680
ready for it. I was excited
about the opportunity. Uh So chester Burnett

496
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:16.440
did give me a big hit,
but I was I was he he gave

497
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:21.440
me that hit because I had you
know, no disrespect to none of those

498
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:24.319
guys. But Coach Tomy put me
against the first defense on the scout team

499
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:30.119
and I ran four touchdowns in a
row against them on gold line, and

500
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:32.519
and so Coach Tomy send me back
down with the first string offense. And

501
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:37.079
then chester Burnett kind of had an
issue with me and he caught me in

502
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.279
a drill and you know, he
got me. That's great. Well,

503
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:43.519
Calvin, you were one of you
one of the great ones on that ninety

504
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:46.279
eight team that still stands out as
you know, one of the funnest times,

505
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:50.839
if not the funnest time as a
fan for for football. So we

506
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:52.920
had a couple of minutes. Let's
talk a little bit about the things that

507
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.359
are going on right now. Uh, transfer portal wise, guys getting recruited

508
00:32:55.359 --> 00:33:00.319
both football and basketball. You see
what's going on. Your thoughts on what

509
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:05.680
Tommy's doing basketball wise, the guys
that he's that he's lining up for this

510
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:09.000
team next year, waiting to see
what happens with Caleb Love. Yeah,

511
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:13.119
I love. I love the guys
that he's bringing in, mostly from mid

512
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:16.000
majors. Uh. Those guys seem
to be a little hungry and and and

513
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:20.839
want to prove themselves. So I
think those those two guys is a great

514
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:24.000
fit. Then the big guy from
Tennessee, I believe, just another big,

515
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:28.000
physical guy. You getting ready to
go into the Big twelve. You

516
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:30.519
gotta have guys that are ready to
be physical to play in that conference.

517
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:36.519
So I thought he did a good
job of mixing in some veterans with also

518
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.039
some physical guys that you were going
to need to add to the guys that

519
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:44.319
we have coming back. But I'm
excited about this group like I am every

520
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:47.440
year. I'm not a guy that
really worries about the NIL. I think

521
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:51.279
things are going to shake out the
way they shake out. And then as

522
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:52.599
a coach, you got to put
your team together. That's just what it

523
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.240
is. Yeah, and and and
you got to do it every year.

524
00:33:55.640 --> 00:34:00.599
Same thing on the football side,
right Brent Brennan's out there trying to gather

525
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:04.519
up some guys to fill in for
guys who have left, he's bringing some

526
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.640
guys in as well. Yeah,
and you know what, and what we're

527
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.400
gonna find out about all the coaches
in America that's coaching is can you coach?

528
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:15.159
And you coach? Because now you're
gonna get guys that gonna you're gonna

529
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:22.840
need for the immediate season. And
they're just coming in from transferring and they're

530
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:24.559
coming in at the spring ball,
they're coming in at the summer, and

531
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:28.199
you're gonna have to get those guys
up to speed for you to have a

532
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:31.039
successful season. So hey, it
comes down to having a great coaching staff.

533
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:35.880
I actually have faith in this coaching
staff. I know these guys.

534
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.239
I've had success with these guys in
the past. Before they left, you

535
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:42.760
of aane went off and had their
different successes. Now they're backs, they're

536
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:46.320
like family. I'm excited for them
to see what they can do with the

537
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:50.840
talent that they have coming back from
this team and the talent that they're bringing

538
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:53.239
in. And then we're gonna we'll
see t mac dunk on a few people

539
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:57.280
this season. Right, seems like
Brent has had pretty good success keeping the

540
00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:59.599
guys here. There was so much
talk about all these guys, Oh they're

541
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.159
gonna go with Jed Fish to Washington
and only just you know, a couple

542
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:05.840
of guys went, and that was
it. So good news, I guess

543
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.079
as far as keeping the roster together
and bringing in, you know, some

544
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:12.519
talent here and there from elsewhere,
well, you know what, that's great

545
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.880
news. But I'm gonna give more
credit to the guys that stayed the fefeedo

546
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:20.199
the t Max than my news.
Those guys are great leaders, guys want

547
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:22.159
to play with them, guys that
have had success with those guys, so

548
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.519
they're a little bit they're believing in
those guys because those guys stuck around,

549
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:30.440
and that that had something to do
also with Brennan because for some reason,

550
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.880
those guys feel a little faith in
him, and he has some history with

551
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:39.519
Polynesians, coming from Arizona and being
at San Jose State. He's a coach

552
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:45.719
Tony understudy, So I don't have
no problem with him with him taking over

553
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:47.920
here because one thing that I do
know is he's gonna love on those guys

554
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:52.440
and he's gonna be more concerned with
them becoming great men, which in turns

555
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:57.159
end up making them great football players. Well said, Well call Calvin,

556
00:35:57.239 --> 00:35:59.920
thank you so much. Appreciate you
doing this with us on a Friday.

557
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:05.639
Well, you'll will be able to
pick you up postgame shows when basketball rolls

558
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:08.840
around again. Or do you football
or basketball or both both? Okay,

559
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:14.679
So on that other station on twelve
ninety, don't mind mentioning those guys working

560
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:16.920
with David Kelly over there. So
you do some good work and we appreciate

561
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:21.800
you joining us today. Oh,
no problem, I appreciate you guy brought

562
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:23.960
all right, there you go.
Thank you. Calviny Fun one of the

563
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:27.360
great ones. You know. I've
told this. I know we got to

564
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.079
go to break. I've told the
story a million times going into that ninety

565
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:32.480
nine season. Right after the twelve
and one ninety eight season, preseason,

566
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:36.440
I was having a conversation with somebody
who you and I know really well,

567
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:38.440
but I'm not going to out him
on this, and I asked him the

568
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:42.920
week before these I said, how
are these guys gonna do? Because we

569
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.239
were all excited about this, saying
they were gonna play Penn State and over

570
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:47.719
he says, and you just looked
at me with a just a really serious

571
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:52.039
as he goes, this team needs
a leader. Calviny Fun is gone and

572
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:55.960
there's not another calvany fun on this
team. Dick Tomy loved him. Yeah,

573
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:59.800
I mean he called my warrior.
I always remember that from those ninety

574
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.719
ninety eight season that you know,
as you mentioned, you know, the

575
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:07.400
best year. It was amazing.
That whole team was just loaded with talents

576
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:09.519
and he was a big part in
that. And that team did not have

577
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:15.440
what he brought and that team went
six and six. Ultimately was the start

578
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:17.360
of Dick's downfall here. You know, a year later he was gone.

579
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:21.199
So unbelievable, Yeah, unfortunate.
Anyways, all right, let's take our

580
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:22.360
break word and come back. We'll
love to take your calls on any of

581
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:25.880
that. Five to two zero four
one six seventy four to forty again five

582
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two zero four one six seventy four, forty I've got Dave Silver in the

583
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:31.840
house, so we'll take u.
Well, listen to whatever you got to

584
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:35.079
say. And well, we've got
a couple of things else to cover,

585
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:37.039
so we'll be right back. Arizona
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Ball with Steve Rivera and Jacob Salez
on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Welcome back

614
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to Balling on Fox Sports fourteen fifty
Im Jacobszalez your host for the day.

615
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:57.760
Uh, Steve's out on a brief
vacation celebrating his birthday, but I've got

616
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a great guest's host sitting in with
me. David Silver, who's been been

617
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:08.000
in this time for forty some long
time, nineteen eighty three nineteen eighty three,

618
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:14.639
so forty one years, kag On
Sports sports director for pretty much all

619
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:19.480
of those years, pretty much eighty
five I think it started. So I

620
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:22.000
worked with Ed Sorenson for a couple
of years and that was a good learning

621
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:25.480
experience to learn from him. And
at the time we had the football contract,

622
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:30.039
so he was doing the color commentary
on the games. And then when

623
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:31.599
he left, I got to do
it for a couple of years and did

624
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:36.360
Larry Smith show, and then we
lost the contracts and that was the end

625
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.159
of that. But it was a
great way to break into Tucson. An

626
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:44.760
amazing time for the u of A
sports especially right a really an amazing growth

627
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.360
period for you know, when Arizona
Sports became, you know, got into

628
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:52.480
the mainstream and they got into the
Pac ten and it and it grew up

629
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:57.079
and you know with you know Larry
Smith and Loud Olsen, you know Dick

630
00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:00.199
Tomy, you know Jerry Kendall at
the time, you know one up in

631
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:04.920
National Baseball Championships and all that stuff. Yeah, you've seen all the stuff

632
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:08.400
that that Steve and I talk about
here all the time, and a lot

633
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:13.039
of history, some good, some
not so good, right, but you

634
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.719
know that's the way history is.
There's going to be some highlights and the

635
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.199
things that just didn't work out.
But you know, getting a chance to

636
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:22.320
cover those early early loot oles and
teams was unbelievable. And it's funny because

637
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:24.480
we've all I mean, I was. You know, when you're in the

638
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:28.719
media, you don't necessarily get super
close to these guys, you know,

639
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:32.159
but with the way social media evolved
and say the last ten years, you

640
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:36.079
sort of can reconnect and they,
oh yeah they do remember you, yes,

641
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:37.639
like like the Pete Williams of the
world, Nay Smith, and we

642
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:43.239
know we're like friends again exactly after
all these years ago. So some of

643
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.880
the guys I was able to stay
close with, you know, either just

644
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:49.760
because they would come back to town
for camps, like you know, the

645
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:52.760
Richard Jefferson's and Luke Walton would come
back and Jason Terry you just mentioned,

646
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.440
he would come back in and I
remember when Bill Walton was here. It

647
00:41:57.519 --> 00:41:59.559
was a real treat just to kind
of see him, you know, I'm

648
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:01.760
gonna want to help Luke with his
camp. Yeah. Well one of those

649
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:05.559
guys that you and I I think
we can both consider our close friends with

650
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:08.039
Steve Kerr, right, And you
mentioned that you were an event to where

651
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:13.840
he was getting an honorary doctor today, Todd tell us a little bit about

652
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:15.920
about reigning into Steve today. Yeah, it was great. So I went

653
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:21.280
back to campus about noon today and
we had a little ceremony at the student

654
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:27.840
union for Steve and his mother Anne, both getting honorary doctorates later tonight at

655
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:32.440
Arizona Stadium with the big graduation ceremonies, commencement ceremonies, and Steve was there,

656
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:37.920
his mother, his brother, his
niece, some family that was there

657
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:42.400
as well. And Steve was great. He had a chance to talk to

658
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.039
everybody. There are a couple of
players there, Reggie Geary showed up,

659
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:47.719
and Matt Mulbach was there. Scott
Thompson, the old assistant coach was there

660
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:52.400
as well, and a number of
faculty members, the deans from the different

661
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:57.119
colleges that are going to be doing
the award awards tonight. So Steve's is

662
00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:02.039
going to be in humanities, and
he was greeted by the Dean of Humanity's

663
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:07.159
ap durand he's from France and I
think Anne Kerr, his mom, can

664
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:12.400
speak French fluently. So they had
some good conversations. So Steve's gonna get

665
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.639
that. And he already has a
real degree from the UK that he got

666
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:20.519
an interdisciplinary Studies I believe they called
it in those years. He got that

667
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:23.880
when he left in nineteen eighty eight, I guess it was. And then

668
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:30.039
his mother, Anne has been a
scholar for years, still teaches. She's

669
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:34.320
about to turn ninety, wow,
and she's still teaching at UCLA a couple

670
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:38.199
classes and so her specialty is Middle
East and North African studies, which we

671
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:42.400
had in the college that I worked
with in the College of Social Behavioral Sciences.

672
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:45.960
So she had a chance to meet
with our dean, Lori Poloni Staddinger

673
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.440
and had some conversations. And then
tonight, like I said, they're going

674
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:53.199
to get there. I guess they
get hooded or some type that's getting hooded.

675
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:57.559
Yeah, So Steve will be doctor, they'll both be doctor Currz and

676
00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:04.239
then Steve heads to Las Vegas UH
in July to get the Olympic team put

677
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.760
together, which will be you know, an unbelievable team with Lebron and Kevin

678
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:12.239
Durant and Steph I'm sure headlining things. So it's gonna be it's gonna be

679
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:14.440
a fun summer for him too.
Well, you know, Steve, even

680
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:15.559
though you know he's he's always been, you know, he's known here as

681
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:21.039
the athlete and all those kinds of
things, always you know, the smart

682
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:23.960
guy, right oftentimes the smartest guy
in the room. And I think maybe

683
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:27.559
because he you know, was a
basketball player and all that kind of people

684
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.519
don't give him the credit for how
smart he is. We've seen him.

685
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:34.079
You know, he takes you know, stances in you know, political stances

686
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:37.119
and those kinds of things, particularly
as he relates to gun control, and

687
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:42.760
and he's always presenting those things in
a in a in a way what that

688
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.400
you know, articulately, that's not
the word I want to you, just

689
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:51.079
sort of in a way that you
kind of understand where he's coming from.

690
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:53.559
And he brings you into this and
says, this is what I'm thinking,

691
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:58.239
and I want you to know what
I'm thinking and what what this means to

692
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:00.960
you. Right He talks to you
in a that you go, Okay,

693
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:05.119
you know this guy's he's not trying
to be the smartest guy in the room,

694
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:07.880
but guess what he generally is.
There was a school shooting. I

695
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:12.800
can't remember what year, there's been
so many in the last five years,

696
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:15.280
and it was right in the middle
of a I believe the playoffs, right,

697
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:19.239
and he just sat down at the
podium and said, I'm not talking

698
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:22.280
about basketballah, and he went off
for like ten minutes yep, and memorable.

699
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:28.039
It was a memorable And that's really
where humanities comes into play. A

700
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:31.159
lot of people aren't really sure maybe
sometimes what humanities is. But when the

701
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:34.920
Dean went up today and spoke about
he laid it out clearly, and it

702
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:37.320
was like, that's Steve to a
t, right. So, I mean,

703
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:39.159
there's a lot of things, a
lot of elements in his personality that

704
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:42.400
are perfect for this, for this
on, you know. And then when

705
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:45.000
you think of Steve Current, you
think of Okay, if you think of

706
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.599
the University of Arizona. Let's say
you're not from here, but you know

707
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:51.800
the University of Arizona, He's probably
if you say, okay, name five

708
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:54.239
people affiliated with the University of Arizona, He's going to be in that five.

709
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:58.079
Yes, for pretty much anybody.
Yes, right, don't you think,

710
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:00.679
Oh for sure? And he's and
he's not afraid to mention it.

711
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:05.639
I mean he when they start talking
about who his biggest influences are, Loot's

712
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:07.920
always on that. You know,
there's Phil Jackson, and there's you know,

713
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:12.920
uh, Greg Popovich, and Loot's
right there, and Steve is you

714
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:15.400
know Steve. You know, Steve
is a legend here, There's no doubt

715
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:19.559
about it. And he's been very
generous to the school, to athletics and

716
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.639
uh, you know, he's who
knows what he's gonna do. He always

717
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:25.920
used to joke about replacing Loot,
but he's kind of he's done his own

718
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:30.199
things, right, I said,
Steve, next time I see you,

719
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:32.599
we'll we'll get together in Springfield,
Mass Is that coming? You know,

720
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:36.679
he'll be in the Hall of Fame
whenever he's done, whenever he feels like

721
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:39.320
going back to broadcasting or whatever he
wants to do. Once he got five

722
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:44.400
or six NBA championships as a player, three more as a coach, I

723
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:50.360
mean, you know, the there's
not many and then the category exactly exactly,

724
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:52.960
he's racked him up. And you
know, he's been part of some

725
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:58.800
unbelievable teams that those Bulls teams are
legendary, and playing with Jordan and playing

726
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:01.480
with David Robinson, the whole group, and through it all, Dave,

727
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:05.519
and this is what, you know, the appreciation you have through it all,

728
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:07.440
He's just been a regular guy exactly
right, don't. I mean,

729
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:09.599
just a regular guy. You can
go up, you could talk to him.

730
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:13.000
You know, I've seen him a
couple of times at events and we

731
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.960
stop and we talk and he chat. We've had him on the show and

732
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:19.760
you know, he'll come on the
show and and you just you're just having

733
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:22.199
a conversation with you know, the
guy that you're having a beer with.

734
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:25.639
And that's that's he's never gotten caught
up in who he is, because he's

735
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:29.000
a guy who could get caught up
in who he is. And he's you

736
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:31.039
know, he's he's a big timer
and a lot of respects. But yet

737
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:34.960
he walks in the room and you
can just chat with him. Very mature,

738
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:37.119
and he was mature when he was
eighteen. When he was here,

739
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:38.280
he was a kid, and he
was you could just tell he was he

740
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:43.559
was. He was poised and comfortable
talking with people. Even even today.

741
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:46.239
I mean, I know that that
the U of A has gone and worked.

742
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:51.000
I want to say it with the
Warriors in their facility in San Francisco,

743
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:53.239
because he and Tommy were talking today
at the at the events, so

744
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:58.599
you can tell there's a relationship there. And it was great, it really

745
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.960
was. It was funny. We
were outside and students were walking by,

746
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:07.159
and there's a lot of people on
campus obviously for commencements and all different ceremonies,

747
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:10.000
and I don't think anybody realized it
was Curve talking. He's talking talking.

748
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:15.119
People started walking by a bear down
about that for life and he's i

749
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:19.280
mean right in the middle of his
speech, which was totally impromptu. But

750
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:21.960
it was really cute how he handled
very cool, you know. Again,

751
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:24.119
took a lot of pictures, and
I'm sure as people open up their social

752
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:28.199
media tonight, right, you'll start
seeing some yeah one really good guys.

753
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:30.760
Well, I'm actually going to the
commencement. As it turns out, my

754
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:35.079
daughter Steve, who graduated in decend
I'll wave to him from the upper deck

755
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:37.440
right. And my daughter who graduated
in December, she decided she wants to

756
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:42.800
be a part of the big stadium
ceremony because they don't do that at admits

757
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:45.599
at midyear. So a friend of
hers is also graduating and say, oh,

758
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:47.599
let's go together. And then like, okay, now the parents got

759
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:51.920
to go, right. I was
going to a movie, so this is

760
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:53.039
a little more important. I was
going dinner in the movie, and I

761
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.239
had to put on the red shirt
what I got on now? And I

762
00:48:55.320 --> 00:49:00.519
got to go to the commencement.
You got some buddies going out to Yeah,

763
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:04.119
I got some friends and family over
there. Yea, our guy Adam,

764
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:06.159
I'm sure he was going to be
there. Yeah, he's going to

765
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:07.679
be there. Yeah, we've got
I think we've got three or four of

766
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:15.440
them, and Elise our interns.
Yeah, our interns who decided I'm gonna

767
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:17.760
graduate. I'm not coming back.
So we've been saying goodbye one by one

768
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:22.079
over the over the last couple of
weeks. But I mean I had one

769
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.800
son come here and graduate, and
I don't think he did well. I

770
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:29.079
know he did not go through the
big Arizona Stadium ceremony. He did the

771
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:32.320
smaller one with his college with I
mean, there's so many moments that they

772
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:36.320
can celebrate, that's the one he
picked. Yeah, well I had one.

773
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:38.320
Okay, my oldest Adam. We
did. The cool thing about is

774
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:43.199
again to my horn't tell in the
story, but you know, we catch

775
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:45.840
up with him after the ceremony.
We're over by McKay said, let's meet

776
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:47.920
by killing me by mckill and that's
Wing told he'd been hired full time by

777
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:52.000
the by the u of A,
which was a very cool thing for the

778
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:54.960
whole deal. But then my second
daughter got her degree, but it was

779
00:49:55.039 --> 00:50:00.079
during the COVID year, so her
you know, her her school, you

780
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:05.000
know, for her college was by
Zoom, and then there wasn't a stadium

781
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:07.239
one so she didn't even get one. And then I think I think that

782
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:09.920
had something to do with Rachel saying
I want I want to be a part

783
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:14.880
of this because her sister didn't get
to get to do it. And then,

784
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:16.199
like I said, she graduated in
December and they don't have one,

785
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:20.679
so she's decided I was gonna do
it. Was really lucky. As I

786
00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:25.639
was working for the College of Social
Behavioral Sciences the last know, maybe three

787
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:30.519
or four years, I got to
read names, which was that's got to

788
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:35.679
be nerve wracking, very nerve wrecking. I was proud of myself, honestly

789
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:39.599
to get through some of the names
because you seriously have about ten seconds to

790
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:43.960
look at the name and spit it
out right, and sometimes you're not quite

791
00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:47.800
sure. You'll give little eye contact
of the student to just go give me,

792
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:51.599
give me the name before it.
It was really a thrill, honestly,

793
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:53.599
what a cool thing. Was really
fun because it's such a big moment

794
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:55.960
for the kids, right and I
wanted to name the parents. I wanted

795
00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:00.119
to make sure that they didn't mess
it up. Yeah it's you, you

796
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:02.840
know, Yeah, have it for
posterity. I've sat through a couple of

797
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:06.400
those, and I'm pretty sure I
wouldn't want to do that because we will

798
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:07.760
come say, okay, I don't
know who you got that name right exactly

799
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.360
why they got that name right,
and you think, well, maybe was

800
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:15.679
it right or wasn't it right,
And when you get that dirty look after

801
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:17.760
they're walking by, Oh I just
messed that one for sure, for sure?

802
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.039
You know. Well, congratulations to
all the parents who have who have

803
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:28.599
sons and daughters and graduating from from
the u of A this weekend. It's

804
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:31.679
a big event. You can tell. The restaurants are full, the hotels

805
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:36.320
are full, the traffic is as
busy as it is all heck, but

806
00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:38.079
you know, it's a good time
and this is one of the great times

807
00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:42.800
for for Tucson to have to get
these kids out there and get them out

808
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:45.760
into the world. And then everybody
goes away and then they go home.

809
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:49.280
This weekend, it'll be empty.
It's great. Everybody goes home and we

810
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:52.760
can get back into the restaurants.
Okay, we're at the top of the

811
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:54.280
hour. We're gonna go ahead and
take our break. Juan is here to

812
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:58.719
go through breaking news. There's all
kinds of stuff going on as always,

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so we'll get to that, and
then we're gonna have Kevin Guy, the

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head coach of the Arizona Rattlers,
owner of the Tucson Sugar Skulls, and

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their two teams are meeting up tomorrow
at the arena, So stick around for

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all that. We'll be right back