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Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez. They
have their eye on the ball on two

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Sons Sports stage yet Fox Sports fourteen
fifty streaming live. I mean I heard

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radio wam, Hey, welcome back
to wining the ball here. I'm fuck

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Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. I have Carrie Cecil with me today.

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Ja's out, got our guys sid
with breaking news. So this is

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how it works, Carrie said,
will bring us some topics if they're worthy

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of us to talk about it,
we'll talk about it. You're all like

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boxers are briefs. I've been.
Let's start with Arizona volleyball, so up

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to a rough start. They lost
last night three zero to Long Beach State

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in their first game of the Arizona
Classics. So tonight they played in Mexico

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State, trying to bounce back.
But the transition from Dave Rubio has been

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has been roughing has expected that thing
right right now, it has been rough.

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Dave. Dave got out at the
right time, and it's transitions are

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tough. Right. We've seen it
on an over different levels. Okay,

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and then Arizona Soccer travels to number
twenty one, good Zaga. They play

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tomorrow. Arizona is currently three one
of three. They have three ties,

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so if they can get out of
a win against rate team, I think

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things will be looking better for that. Have you met the coaches? Very

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fascinating, very bright, very very
very tough, very tough, but very

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bright. Yeah. It's it's like, you're gonna play for her. I

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love that. And I don't know
when you know, what do you say

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what you're gonna play for her?
Jans she loves wearing her Jordan Jordan's yes,

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yeah, but we had it on
the show the first time. It

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was like they're gonna play first,
She's a real deal. Yeah, I

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love that. And then for the
Red and Blue game for basketball, Richard

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Jefferson and Channing Fryer said to host
that, Yeah, what's that thing called

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the show of Forget you? What
is it? It's like the spring game,

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but for basketball, the Blue Red
Blue game. Okay, Richard Than

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and Channing they have this show on
the road or I can't, God,

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I should notice on the road and
they're bringing their show here for that night.

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It's two dudes talking crap. I
love it. It's like, you

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guys, yeah, I just kind
of just kind of like going back and

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forth, and people love them because
they're UA grads. But you know,

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Richard's a character and Channese very bright, so it's gonna should be a lot

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of fun. Would be fun.
Yeah, four star center Emmanuel Stephen has

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Arizona's final five who he's a shop
blocker, rib runner. He's number ninety

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five and the ESPN one hundred.
So if we can get another big to

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fill in after Balo leaves, which
this should be his last year, so

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he can get some good experience with
those European guys as well. Okay,

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who are the other four? Do
you know? No other schools? I

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think Kansas was one. USC is
rumored to be with us as kind of

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like Sue, Yeah, I think
it's USC. A couple of the schools.

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Yeah, so yeah, the big
damn. Oh, he's a shop

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I believe he's a local kid.
He's here, he's in Arizona. I

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believe he's got an academy here.
Oh maybe at Phoenix. Yeah. Well

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okay, okay, it's funny.
So with football, I remember one of

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my other coaches and the SEC is
telling me, you have to recruit your

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state first. Oh yeah, without
first hundred miles if you can't get the

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first hundred miles, you won't get
five hundred miles. No, that's true.

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Well we saw what happened with the
previous coach. Yeah, he rumped

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the ball many times on locals.
Yeah, whether they were going to get

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him or not, that's one thing. But you didn't even try. And

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I don't know why. We have
so many talented people in the state of

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Arizona and multiple sports without question.
Look, other schools are coming to Phoenix

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a lot of I agree. The
kid who's now the starting for some Justisco.

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Yeah, and he's just a normal
dude. And you know this carry

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I'll ask you you not including your
husband because he's he's like a walk on,

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but he was beyond a walk on
because he had something. Well that's

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those guys. It's okay, everybody
wants him. Now you like me,

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Now let me go there because they
have something special. Brock Party was not

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highly recruited, just a dude who
did his job. I love those dudes

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because no one thinks you can do
it. Yeah, and then they do

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it kind of chuck. You know
who who? Dana White, He's so

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great, right, he has like
bet against me, Go ahead. I

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love it bet against me Rogers did
that yes? Or did he have a

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prest conference today? I think he
was on Pat McFee I Love, and

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he was talking about that. He's
just watch me, I'll show me,

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show me. I mean, that's
the best thing you can do to Chuck

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c So it's like go ahead.
He's like super quiet, you know,

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and then you just go ahead and
just go ahead and try. Yeah,

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he is pretty quiet, very quiet. It didn't used to be. No,

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no, I mean he's he's got
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on social media that like show me, don't tell me, because he's always

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said the film doesn't have sound.
Now it does, but it didn't.

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It's like people who talk a lot. That makes sense. He hates he

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literally he doesn't hate anyone because he's
the nice person. But he like nothing

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can drive him more crazy. Well, if you are just talking and talking

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and talking, well that's coach stuff
too. Show me, don't show me,

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show me, don't tell me.
I mean you run into a lot

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of coaches. They're just like blah
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talking to hear themselves talking. Yeah. Yeah, I had a couple of

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classes with Brock. Actually in junior
high he was always a great older than

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me. But in art and Gilbert
he was always we always knew what he

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had. Yeah, it was just
he was under size, you know,

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kind of you know, a lot
of people don't respect his athletic ability,

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but yeah, I remember he had
something. Yeah, I mean his brother

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would just go back and forth throwing
footballs in the basketball hoop and it's awesome.

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Yeah, not the size of the
dog and the fight size of the

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fighting and you know a lot of
those people, yeah, I do,

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you know, just kind of guys
who just kind of showed up in a

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holy crap, look at what did
you guys turned into? You know,

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because of Steve Kerr, small little
white man. He's the poster child.

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Yeah, absolutely, chuck two.
Yeah, yeah, well if there's two

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posters, that's it. That awesome
school down south in the dirty Tea.

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So moving on into uh, some
Colorado Buffalo stuff. So I'm sure you

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guys have heard, you know,
the back and forth. So Dion actually

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he decided to give his entire team
sunglasses during their meeting today. So I

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mean he was on Pat McAfee as
well talking about that so much smacks yeah,

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I mean I listened to so,
so what do you make of this

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situation? I just don't think you
should talk about Colorado. I think people

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just talk so much smack about Colorado, meat included. Not like I didn't

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talk smack. Because if you know
Deon Sanders, he is the nicest human

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being that you will ever meet.
And this huge crazy persona like, yes,

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it's a part of him. And
and by the way, they needed

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it, I mean, Rick sort
of their Colorado. They needed some,

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right. But and everyone's like,
oh, it's all like, hey,

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this is this is the power five
man. This this isn't some you know,

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smaller school blah blah blah. And
he brought some dudes and and he

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coached them and and and people went, oh, my goodness. So this

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is not a surprise to you.
No, because you I'm not surprised.

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I'm gonna listen. I don't people
like Deon Sanders, You just don't count

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them out. Yeah, and so
and I and I don't think he has

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the you know, he has a
little bit of like I have it too.

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It's a little bit you get fifteen. I don't give a fe I

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don't give a f I don't give
it fe My husband doesn't curse. My

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mother hates it. When I cursed. It's like, I don't, I

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don't care. I don't carry on
because you reach a certain ages. All

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I see it this way, I'm
closer to death than to life. So

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what the other white care? Yeah, he's like I mean, Jack has

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it a little bit, but he's
not arrogant. He's like, listen,

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I don't I don't need to prove
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Look at the guys of coach.
You know he doesn't need to stand up

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there. So where do you fall
in? Both of you? Guess where

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do you fall in line? Because
I tucked to you what this yesterday?

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So you fall in line that like
Dion and other coaches who use that bulletin

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board material to get you guys riled, or guys go and just kick their

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ass. I mean, you don't
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worry about it. Just kind of
go beat the crap out of him.

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I think he used anything. Yeah, I think if it's out there,

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why not. They're college kids.
Sometimes it's hard for them to get up

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for games, especially when you start
off to oh, your ranks already number

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eighteen in the country. Give him
that Carroty, you know, but it

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didn't work out on ted Lasso ever. And the ted Lasso one when they

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show him that it's that other guy
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show him that, and then they
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absolutely insane and they have all those
penalties and everything in their oh red cards

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everywhere. I'm sorry. Ted Lazo
is like such a great show that it's

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over, but like and Ted's like, don't do it. So he's more

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like on the Steve like just go
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and the other coaches are like,
no, no, show him shown.

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Yeah, and it works against But
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would show him. I think you
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he does. He's done that twice
now, but it's worked for him.

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Yeah, no, I get it. Yeah. Yeah. So the Washington

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game coming up this family weekend.
It's near a sellout, so you're looking

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at back that it's gonna be against
Washington, which should be ranked in the

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top ten still, so that's gonna
be a big one for the game.

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I think they have a big game. They beat they have a big game.

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Yeah, State this weekend State yep, right right, and then that's

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a blue weekend as well, yep, Friday, and then the Saturday of

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the game, the football game.
Yeah. So everything's moving fast. I

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think we're gonna find out a lot
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games are are more of a getting
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Yeah. I think you're right.
You gotta get you gotta get ready.

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You gotta play well in these games
to feel good going into Listen,

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they play get well against Mississippi State
in start. I mean, I don't

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know if you guys ever been there. I've been there for a game.

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The cowbells, it's insane. They're
not so loud. I'm not gonna face

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anything worse. No, not not
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They don't have that, and you
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mean, it's just so crazy and
stark. Thought so and they and they,

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you know, they maintain composure.
And if Jaden can be consistent,

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you know, and stay consistent,
consistent, consistent, that's that's the whole

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thing. Listen, We're living and
dying by Jaden. I love him.

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I love that kid. I mean, he has matured so much emotionally,

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physically, as a team player.
He's gone through a lot of adversity,

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had a lot of people throw a
lot of stuff at him, and and

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he couldn't respond. And you know, I mean, you know they say

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the truth looks that you free.
But if you can't tell your truth,

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you go home every night and you
swallow it. So he's dealing. You

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know, he dealt with a lot
of personal stuff off the field, and

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he and thank God for Coach Fish
and his family Amber just they have been

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like his rock and supporting them and
just such a good family to them.

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But you know, he's got a
gift. I mean, like I got

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text during the first quarter. You
know, people text me like, why

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isn't he pulling him? Why is
he pulling him? I'm like, you

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don't pull him, No way,
he's gonna watch He's gonna come back.

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Look at that kid. He is
going to come back. And he never

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lost a composure. He came back
every single time, and you watch his

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face. And there's a whole book
on what drives winning. It's a book,

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it's a whole series. It's called
Woods Drives Winning, and it's about

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side there Becky Burley who was a
women's soccer coach at Florida who won a

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national championship, and she was on
it and she did a sideline cam to

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show that when that, when you
come off the field, you say a

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lot right about who you are to
your team and what you feel. What's

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his name who was a defensive coordinator
doctor heat at the Saints. Uh god,

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great Williams. Williams had a whole
principle about sideline behavior and just like

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you are, you are consistent,
you are non emotional and Jed it's perfect

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like he's not. And then yeah, I mean he's got the mother.

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There's things going on behind it.
It's a series of it's a series.

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It's a podcast series, but it's
a it's a video series. Oh yeah,

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but there's also a couple of books. But and Becky's on it and

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she's not at Florida. I know
you're gonna find for me some timers.

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Oh no, you'll find in you
win you sometime it you text me.

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Yeah, I'm interesting. What drives
winning? That's the kite title of it.

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Well, yeah, and it's a
video series. There's something called Google.

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I know how to use I like
that better than Chuck doesn't want to

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be on Google. I just forget
about what the heck that you just said?

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What drives winning? Drives winning?
Okay? Yeah, and I mean

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you see that something. What I
was saying thinking about Jaden is why you've

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seen the maturity last See it's right
here. Yeah, yeah, you see

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that maturity level on the sidelines.
You see it. You know, you

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guys see it a little bit in
the press room. He's getting a lot

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more open, you know. I
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how if he came off this year
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curled up in a ball or something
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I just saw him talk about it
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And now he's up there and he's
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I like what I'm saying. Okay, what else you so opposite situation in

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Alabama they've actually benched Jalen Morrow.
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it's just a different perspective on these
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do you trust him or are you
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the whole thing. And you mentioned
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you know whatever. I still think
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he would kind of regress. Yeah, I agree with you, Scott.

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Four guys that are five star recruits
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five quarterbacks. But I could be
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in himself. But still it's like
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Cur he might have lost him for
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that's the same with Jayden, but
you know what, you lose something.

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My coach doesn't trust me whatever.
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a psychologist. I just play one
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like it. I mean I don't. I don't dn't. I feel like

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he's just not going to ever give
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you saw him that last play.
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sacrifice everything to get us there to
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the last of those issues. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know,

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because that's who he is. He's
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He's a risk taker, he's a
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that's just the kind of player that
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and if you look at the film, there isn't anyone open in that last

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play, Like, it's not like
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saw in the beginning of the game
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reading his eyes right and he was
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pick by the tight end he I
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guy and and all of a sudden, you know, all of a sudden,

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Jaden's eyes start to go a different
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you know, what did Jed say
to him? Oh? Yeah, and

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then and he picks it up super
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recognizing while he's over there. Yes, yeah, it's huge. I think

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that it's that you see it.
He's maturing. I mean, I mean,

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we're going to get the best years
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I think you know, this year
in a year, I hope he sticks

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around. Yeah, I do,
I mean I think I am. I

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mean, he's getting better. Why
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be better? Right? And so
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him a lot. I think that
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better. Yes, guys like the
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Well, so having that that QB
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at it when someone was here,
and you look at it now and you've

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got three guys at some point and
yeah, I mean God forbidden, you

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know, someone gets hurt or something
like that. You're confident, you know,

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Okay, do you have anything else
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we'll go take the break and then
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Live, I mean my heart radio. Wa. This is I on the

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welcome back to Why on the Ball
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I'm Steve Rivera. Jay is out
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with me today. When the great
great women give me, give me a

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definition of your job like title probably
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know what I'm saying, give me, like, tell me what you do.

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counselor I'm not married anymore. No, I fixed she's you know, at

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the at the the highest level in
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Yeah, let me ask you,
and pardon me if I'm whatever with this

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question. How is it? How
is it you're I won't aid you because

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you're younger than me, much younger
than me. You're in this world of

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men. Yeah, how is that
being with that? Because a macho ego

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blah blah blah. How do you
survive in that? If? How would

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you survive in that? Sense of
humor? Big balls? I mean like,

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yeah, I mean I don't.
I grew up with an older brother,

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right, I mean actually two stepbrothers. Yeah, I mean in my

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family, you got you know,
you called the ball or you got beaned

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with it. There was no like
you're a girl, It's like and and

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so I don't I have I have
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I don't. I'm not offended easily
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times, a few times, uh, the coaches or whomever a whatever level

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tried to bully you or intimidate make
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it's happened. I mean, listen, I mean, I'm old enough

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that a lot of women, you
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of people like that broke the glass
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in my fifties, and and I
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I've been in lots of situations where
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I'll give you an example, right, and God rest his soul. So

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mister a head of a league,
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older man. UH had the championship, the big the big dinner for the

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league championship was in New York and
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two thousand and two, maybe two
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and they're smoking cigarettes and they're sitting
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I go in and wearing a fur
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in January, and I go into
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the king in the back, smoking
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my little shit too, its name
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so you know, you can imagine
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gotta make muff And I was like
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Soanzo and I just laughed because it
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five year old man, and I
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so he was just trying to be
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it's a different era. I think
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funny joke. I mean, it
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he's really not talking about my personal
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funny. And so that's funny,
right. But I said to him,

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you gotta be careful because people like
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gonna take your money if you stay
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we live in a world now where
you just can't do that anymore. Got

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a call, got a call.
You're on the air and behind in the

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ball Hey, it's Billy Bill.
I gotta tell you, this is one

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a weekly spot on here and come
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You know, it's really my brother
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Wildcat football player of all time.
Oh, I got a question for you.

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Yes, he said you were off
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which kind of surprised me. But
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You know where we're taking right.

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I want to know where you were
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I was. I was in a
stadium. Good question. Yeah, I

406
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:52.079
was there. I was there.
We you know I was there. And

407
00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:56.119
so I'm it's so amazing. So
many people come up to me and we

408
00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:59.880
were there. We were there,
and Jeff van raffahorse by the way,

409
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.599
I knew as well who was the
quarterback? And and so I mean,

410
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:07.519
I love I love Chuck, And
yeah I was. I was in the

411
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.880
South war zone and he picked it
off right in front of me and we

412
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:14.440
could see, you know, Chuck
was never known as a speedster. He's

413
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:18.319
so slow. We could see that
he had a clear path to the end

414
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:19.960
zone and we could not believe he
made it all the way. So,

415
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:23.440
I mean, one of great It's
a great memory for my whole family and

416
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:27.200
all my friends, and so thank
you. Thanks for coming to the show.

417
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:30.119
You're awesome. Oh I love first
of all, Bill, thank you

418
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:34.160
for remembering and thank you for following
the Wildcats and supporting them and saying such

419
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:37.079
nice things about my husband. And
it's a lot of the reason that he

420
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.359
chose to come back, and you
know why why we love chews On so

421
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:44.920
much. So thank you. Well, we were so excited when he came

422
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:47.039
back. We talked about it all
the time. So thank you so much.

423
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:52.519
Well, hopefully we won't get fired. Thanks appreciate right by. Bye.

424
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:55.480
Yeah, hey, if anybody wants
to call, we have some time

425
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here and and after this break.
So five to zero four, six seventy

426
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:07.000
four forty so people are paying attention. I love that's Bill's my one fan.

427
00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:10.079
He's probably one of the guys who
read my one book. That's funny.

428
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:11.400
I thought he was friendly with you. What was wrong with Chuck?

429
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:15.519
I thought I was smarter than that. Oh I love hearing that too,

430
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.240
right, yeah, someone said someone
one of another listener says, twenty thousand

431
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:22.160
people were at that game. Just
how's how it felt? It was pretty

432
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:23.680
pretty pretty loud, right, yeah? How called crazy it was? Let

433
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:26.279
me ask you a dumb question.
A dumb question. Oh, there's no

434
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.640
dumb question. This is an interesting
another call. Hi, you're on the

435
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:33.920
air. Are in the ball?
Go ahead and tuck color? Hey,

436
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:41.000
yeah, No, I'm the other
fan. No, go ahead, yeah

437
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:44.359
yeah. On the other go ahead
and turn. And I wanted to let

438
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:48.200
you know that I wouldn't wart with
you because I see how you wouldn't flirt

439
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:52.599
with somebody who has, you know, a significant other who got banned from

440
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:57.160
the NFL, like imagine that.
Like I just wanted to say, I'm

441
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:02.559
ther other fan. I love that. What's name? I can't even tell

442
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:06.200
you because I'm I don't want to
you. Okay, we'll just call you

443
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:08.960
John. We're gonna call you John. Okay, John. So I love

444
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:14.319
that? And are and do you
follow the WorldCat still? Yeah? Yeah?

445
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:15.480
Yeah? And I was there when
when he went his one hundred.

446
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:18.039
I wasn't used to have his thing
called the not whole section, yeah,

447
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:21.319
which is like a dollar. So
I was I was a kid. You

448
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.960
a dollar A game to go Chid
was pretty amazing and even after like the

449
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.319
coolest part of the whole expansion me
because I was a kid was afterwards,

450
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:30.799
like everyone worsh the field and they
didn't want us messing up the grasses.

451
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:37.880
Yes, so they put on the
sprinklers because I moved the sprinkler heads to

452
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.920
hit the chief feat. Yeah.
I mean, do you remember Larry Smith

453
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:47.359
by my mom being on the field. But that was one of my things.

454
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:49.160
I'll never forget my whole life.
And I love that your mom took

455
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:53.319
you. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that's every game that was

456
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:56.920
darklin. There was beeing the toilet
paper to the top row and up the

457
00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:00.880
hundreds and every pore touchdown and throw
the whole roll down to the bottom here.

458
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.319
That makes me happy. Well,
I appreciate you. Colin John with

459
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:08.400
air floats around your name, have
a good weekend. We say thanks,

460
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:11.759
thanks for calling. Hey, we
got some time. It looks like we

461
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:12.880
might get some more calls, so
five two, four, one, six,

462
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:17.160
seventy four, forty you're gonna stay
with us still five Yeah, maybe

463
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:18.680
we'll get more calls. That would
be amazing. Yeah, look at you

464
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:25.160
call on up moving on costs.
Give a chance to talk to Karry,

465
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:32.519
ask her some questions. And I
also not an expansion expansion. Do you

466
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:37.960
it's gone crazy? Do you think
it's gonna get any crazier in five years,

467
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:41.279
ten years. Yeah, I think
we're just moving. I think it's

468
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.920
all moving into probably big four,
Big four, big big four. Well

469
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:47.960
yeah, I mean here's the thing. I would have said, it's going

470
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.039
to be two super conferences, right, I think mister Sankey and and then

471
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.799
you know how Kevin Warren did USC
and UCLA at the Big ten and now

472
00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:02.279
he's at the Chicago Bears. And
from sure Petiti, who's wonderful man.

473
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:06.000
You know you're seeing them grow the
Big ten in the SEC. So I

474
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:07.119
would have said it was going to
be the Big two. Right. But

475
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:11.119
Brett, your mark at the Big
twelve. Man, does he have some

476
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.240
swagger? I mean he didn't.
He came in he came from I don't

477
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.839
know if you followed him at all, became you know from he came from

478
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:25.359
NASCAR, He was in you know, the NBA. He went down to

479
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:29.200
to Dallas to become the Big twelve. Hold on, hold on though,

480
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:34.160
talk about your mark, call us
back, call us back, mischief.

481
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.960
So your mark, right, commit
sure, your mark? And that's where

482
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.559
you have a is heading. He's
got so much swagger. I love the

483
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:42.960
Big twelve. You got the call
coming back? Are you on the air

484
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:48.079
and I on the ball. Hey
Steve, this is done. Hey Don,

485
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.359
what do you have? Hey?
I just want to ask Harry if

486
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:57.440
on one of her situations that she
had to clean up, did you come

487
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:02.039
in and were you just like utterly
disappointed in the person? You know,

488
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:07.119
like I thought this guy was better
than that. You have to you know

489
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:13.400
what, what's your name? Don? Sorry? I didn't I didn't remember

490
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:16.160
right out of my one brain cell. You know, it's such a great

491
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:22.119
question. And I've seen so many
people in situations where it's so easy to

492
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:28.680
judge them, and I have to
take a step back and say, wait

493
00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:32.680
a second, how much you know
poop? Have I done in my life?

494
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:37.839
What I wouldn't want a microscope on
me? Where I've said something stupid,

495
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:42.720
I've acted stupid, I've done something
detrimental to someone else. And I

496
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:45.920
always try to not be that judgy
person. And I say to them all

497
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:50.480
the time because a lot of these
people it is embarrassing. I mean,

498
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:52.519
read the headlines. I mean,
look at you know, the thing that's

499
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:55.400
going on with you know, Michigan
State and Meltucker. No one wants to

500
00:32:55.480 --> 00:33:00.319
name, you know, the word
masturbation associated in all with them, right,

501
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:05.279
But in the grand scheme of things, who hasn't done that? And

502
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:07.799
so I mean not on the phone
or whatever. So I try to have

503
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:12.759
grace and when I when I deal
with a client, unless it's I don't

504
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:16.599
take on clients as I said before, that are that kick dogs that hurt

505
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:20.960
people and things like that. If
it's an error in judgment, and it's

506
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:24.799
it's something that you know, you
could see an average person making that mistake,

507
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:30.319
but they're because they're so high profile. I believe that grace creates space,

508
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:37.599
and that space allows me to do
my job. Is that help?

509
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:42.519
Yeah? Fair enough? Yeah?
I always just thought it would it would

510
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:46.279
how difficult it would be, and
even nandall because that person is going through

511
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:52.839
such a hard situation where they know
they messed up and then they don't they

512
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:58.920
don't know what to do. Can
alleviate that situation for themselves? Yeah,

513
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:01.680
I mean listen there, they know
they missed up and they're embarrassed. Right,

514
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:07.079
it's all, it's all the same, right, we're humans. And

515
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.519
so they don't sleep, they don't
eat, they're probably losing their job,

516
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:14.719
they're losing their reputation, their neighbors
are looking at them. Their pastors are

517
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:16.639
looking at them, the rabbis are
looking at him, everybody's looking at them.

518
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:21.800
They know that, and they're living
with that their own shame or their

519
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:25.000
own disappointment, and I'm sure there
are levels of grief of which they go

520
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:30.760
through for their own behavior. And
so I try to be a person who's

521
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:37.480
supportive and a fixer than someone who's
piling on. Yeah. Yeah, but

522
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:40.079
I won't work with someone who's a
murder or rapist or you know, kicks

523
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:44.159
dogs. I just won't. I
don't, you know, I just won't

524
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:47.519
do it. Thanks, Don,
appreciate you. Bye. Don, keep

525
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:52.079
listening, bear down. Yep.
Don's one of our great listeners and callers

526
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:54.320
to hey, we got to take
the break. We're losing time right here,

527
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:58.960
and then come back for another about
twelve fifteen minutes. Cool, so

528
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Learn more at United Way Tucson dot
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exes at OS. It's Steve Rivera
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the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen Different. They welcome back to one of the

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ball here on Fox Sports fourteen.
Cookie. I'm Steve James out today,

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got our guys sid work on the
board and we have my special guests Carrie

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c Sir Cecil. Yes you're well, let's finish this conversation of what your

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humor, just your thoughts and help
savvy he is. He's got a swag.

601
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:30.239
He's got swagger. I love swagger. He's got a big personality and

602
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:35.440
he came out of the gate swing
and saying we're open for business. And

603
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:39.760
at a time when you know Bob, mister Bolsby who was a commissioner before,

604
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:43.559
he was so amazing, such a
nice man. But you know,

605
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:45.960
I mean it's grown into such a
big business, right, it's a billion

606
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dollar business. You need businessmen.
And the PAC twelve was like, oh

607
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:52.639
no, I mean the Big twelve
was like, oh no, we're on

608
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:57.360
our way down. You know what's
happening. Oklahoma and Texas left for the

609
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.239
SEC. It's like, you know, I mean, so you can see

610
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.280
you see that same thing. You
see Texas in Oklahoma go to the SEC

611
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:09.280
from the Big twelve. You see
the PAC twelve, USC and UCLA the

612
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:14.400
crown joils go to the PA,
to the Big ten. And so now

613
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:16.559
you have these two commissioners, George
and Brett, and look at how they

614
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:21.320
handle it differently. Let me let
me ask you so and you can get

615
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:23.119
into us as detailed as you like, because you're smart. I don't need

616
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:29.000
to tell you this to couch your
comments. Once USC and UCLA left,

617
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:31.719
yeah, I was sitting in my
garage. I didn't even tell my husband

618
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:36.920
when I knew. Well, okay, so did you how soon after or

619
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:42.920
did you think that the demise of
the PAC twelve was possible or not possible?

620
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:45.599
It isn't about the schools leaving.
It's about the media rights, right,

621
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:52.760
So the media companies Fox, ESPN, they'll pay a certain amount of

622
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:57.320
money for every forever, you know, every conference I gets, and I

623
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.039
gets divvy it up between the schools. And so when the media rights deals,

624
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:05.440
like the schools grant the rights their
media rights to that conference, and

625
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:08.800
then the big companies come in and
like Foxes the head is Air Shanks and

626
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:14.960
Mark Silverman, brilliant, amazing guys, and you know you have ESPN as

627
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:21.480
well. And so I think that
at that time, even after USC and

628
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:27.639
UCLA left, the PAC twelve had
the opportunity to do the same deal that

629
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:31.280
that right you are Mark renegotiated,
which was about thirty million per school.

630
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:37.559
But the PAC twelve overplayed the hand
I think they got. They got messy

631
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:40.480
with with the people who pay them. You never want to bite the hand

632
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:45.559
that pays you, and they made
them mad, and so they just said

633
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:47.559
okay bye. And so then it's
like, oh my gosh, I gotta

634
00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:51.199
there's not that many companies that can
pay that, and you know, ESPN

635
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:53.039
is Disney and they're laying off all
these people and all this stuff, and

636
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:55.480
the two biggest schools in the media
market. They should have taken that deal

637
00:42:55.559 --> 00:43:00.559
in ran and they didn't. Who
who dropped the ball on that. I

638
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:05.199
mean, that's that's a commissioner's job. Okay, that is the commissioner one

639
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:10.679
job. It's like that their job, and you are immediately came from MGM.

640
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:15.760
You have media experience. I mean, like your job is like to

641
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:22.320
ensure the sustainability of those institutions and
those tens of thousands of student athletes that

642
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:25.119
they can receive an education and play
their sports. And so I think,

643
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:29.840
you know, if you can end
listen, George is a nice, nice

644
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:32.960
man, and it was bad for
the PAC twelve would happen with UCLA and

645
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:37.000
USC And you know, I'm a
PAC twelve girl, but I worked for

646
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.199
the Big ten commissioner at that time, and I just feel like it just

647
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:46.639
got so messy with the hand that
they fed them. That was the demise.

648
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:51.440
It wasn't about the schools. And
I think any institution president, I

649
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:53.599
think whether and I can't speak for
the UA president, doctor Robbins, but

650
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:58.199
I think everyone wanted the PAC twelve
one hundred and eight years. You know,

651
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.039
I wanted everybody wanted it to stay
again. Other but at the end

652
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:04.679
of the day, when you're talking
about if your schools in debt, if

653
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.119
you. You know, whatever it
is you have to provide for, you

654
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:13.679
have to do what is best to
ensure that those student athletes, that the

655
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:16.880
divers, the track runners, the
golfers, they have an education. Sure,

656
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:22.440
that's what we forget. We are
higher learning. It's about education.

657
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:27.760
It's providing academic opportunities through sports.
And if you don't have the opportunity because

658
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:30.920
you can't pay for those things because
you're in the wrong conference, you've got

659
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.679
to get out. So let me
ask you. A lot of talk has

660
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:36.639
been made about, Okay, you've
taken care of the men's basketball programs,

661
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:39.239
you're taken care of the football programs, because that's the center of this universe.

662
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:45.760
What about the Olympic sports people?
It's it's that they're they're the ones

663
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:47.840
that are going to suffer in this
travel, all this stuff. What do

664
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:51.440
you feel? I mean, it
just just depends, right. I think

665
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:57.280
it's super complicated. I think there's
gonna be really complicated for for schools that

666
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:02.159
are out west, going you know
to they're you know, going to Rutgers,

667
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:06.880
you know, Rutgers or wherever.
I think that's going to be challenging.

668
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:10.880
I mean, you have revenue generating
sports like football and men's basketball where

669
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:17.679
they're on a charter where you have
you know, maybe uh softball or whatever,

670
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:21.000
they're on a commercial fight they're go
and get home till three four in

671
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:24.559
the morning. Right, So it
is up to these conferences and they're doing

672
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:30.000
a heck of a job of scheduling
and looking at these matchups. But you

673
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:32.960
have to understand these schools were already
playing out west once a year. So

674
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.159
you're adding one more game, right, they were already out of conference.

675
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:42.199
I'm talking about all of the sports
I'm talking. I'm talking about broadband sports,

676
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:46.079
which is Olympic sports, plays and
competes out of their conference and travels.

677
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:52.440
Yeah, so you're just adding one
more competition. Okay, I don't

678
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.119
know what to change challenge you with, so I won't no, no,

679
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:58.880
no, I mean, but now
you're doing it more often because you're playing.

680
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:00.960
Yeah, you're doing it more time. What in terms of travel,

681
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:05.360
Yeah, I mean, like if
you're if you're aren't you going like in

682
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:07.639
basketball, you're going to play here. You gotta go get there. It's

683
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:13.119
a eighteen team conference. Yeah yeah, I mean, you got god.

684
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:15.840
But it also depends on the scheduling, right, and and how you're going

685
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:19.679
to schedule those those teams and who
those teams are going to play? You

686
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.400
know what I would have loved too, I've seen and what I like about

687
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:25.960
you know, Oregon and Washington going
to the Big ten. It's you And

688
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:29.880
I know I know that they are
saying, there's oh, no divisions,

689
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:31.639
right, and I don't. I
don't know for sure. I think the

690
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:35.719
commissioner for a TV said that there
was no divisions. But I kind of

691
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:39.199
like the NFL model right where you
have the AFC and the NFC and then

692
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:42.760
you have you know, AFC West. Yeah, yeah, I like that

693
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.559
model, and maybe we end up
there. We don't know, right,

694
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:47.159
we don't know. Okay, anybody
want to call? We have some about

695
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:51.119
six minutes. Maybe you get a
last phone call in I've wanted to ask

696
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:53.239
you who who? I want to
ask you who the pain of the neck

697
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:55.960
is to work for? But who
the fun people are to work for?

698
00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:00.159
Who are the fun people to work? Yeah? Who are like who's the

699
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:01.920
you know, hey, he called
me and I get to do this?

700
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:07.280
Oh goodness, gracious, Uh,
there's so many. I mean, I

701
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:09.840
really like all of my clients,
you know, in the past and and

702
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:14.119
and now because you don't just kind
of bad. You handled a good time.

703
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:15.320
I handled a good two. I'm
a brand builder. I do a

704
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:22.159
ton of media trainings. I do
you know, podium protocols, public speaking,

705
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.199
you know, one of it.
You always know it's a good client

706
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:28.320
when you're like, hey, you
want to go get a drink when you

707
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:31.000
don't have to, rightially, yes, yeah, yeah, you want to

708
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:34.480
get dinner? What are you doing
tonight? I mean there's media people like

709
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:37.239
that, like I really really like
you know, like Adam written Burg at

710
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:39.119
ESPN, I think he was in
town. I was like, hey,

711
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:42.719
let's go to north you know,
I'll come up and get you, you

712
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:44.920
know, and normally you don't have
to do that, right, And so

713
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:49.800
there's a lot of I've been clearly
lucky. Yeah, right, okay,

714
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:52.000
Uh, there was another thing that
we wanted to talk about. To see,

715
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:57.400
we've gone the gamut of a lot
of different things. Oh so,

716
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:01.400
so I just read or recently that
you were like the top fifty one of

717
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:12.760
the behind the scenes people. You
know, I've been really really blessed by

718
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:19.880
some of the people. You know, Sports Business Journal was it was game

719
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:24.719
changers article, game changers. The
issue right of the most powerful women in

720
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:30.320
Sports and that was interesting and really
fun because they did a huge event in

721
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:34.320
New York and met Life Stadium.
It was killer. And then you know,

722
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:38.199
John Wilner, uh did the Top
twenty five people in sportsmen and women

723
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:42.880
behind the scenes sort of just like
you know, making stuff happen. And

724
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:45.599
I was very honored to be on
that list because I mean they're commissioners and

725
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:52.480
they're you know, women like Patty
Phillips who runs college, you know,

726
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:57.119
women's leaders, and Hillary and Karen
and Endeavor who make all the deals happen

727
00:48:57.199 --> 00:48:59.840
and all the money. I was, you know, and I was a

728
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:07.960
commissioner of the pact. Well you
know, so so I got it sucks

729
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:12.079
to get old, you know.
I have the same thing sometimes. Yeah,

730
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.519
subject, So I get a text
here, how much to fix my

731
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:20.000
marriage? Something this nummy? How
much I don't fix my marriage? Would

732
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:22.800
I make a mistake? That's how
much they're asking you. How much would

733
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:24.360
you charge them? But you don't
handle marriages. I don't do marriage.

734
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:28.079
Well, part of it is,
you know, I mean these relationships,

735
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:31.960
I don't. I don't fix marriages. But I would tell you to be

736
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:40.039
honest and open and put it on
the table and tell the truth. And

737
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:44.599
you're willing to work on it,
then that's great. And sometimes you aren't,

738
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:46.800
and but the truth is that you're
free. So there you have it.

739
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:50.360
That would be my that would be
my advice to you. Okay,

740
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:52.840
it's been so fun. Yeah,
so three minutes. We still have that

741
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:57.199
for maybe one more topic. Bowl
games we have a lot of them,

742
00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:00.559
right, Yeah. We have some
key ones for the playoffs. Your thoughts

743
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:04.079
on those. That's the New Year's
Eve six, so you know that's those

744
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:07.360
are the really big ones, right
the road to the championship. And I

745
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.559
mean I love the bowl games.
I mean you have the Fiesta Bowl here

746
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:15.199
in Arizona. They have a new
executive director, Eric Moses. He is

747
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:16.880
so really just new year for sure. Yeah, he's been there. I

748
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:21.480
think he's been there almost a year
maybe, And I mean he's super super

749
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:29.320
smart. And I love the bowl
games because they give opportunities to student athletes

750
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:30.840
when they're in town. But like
the Fiesta Bowl isn't just a bowl game,

751
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:35.679
right, They have multiple events.
They have the parade, they have

752
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:38.360
the Guarantee Ray Bowl, they have
all these different things, but they're these

753
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:43.000
bowls. All of them are about
giving money to their communities, right,

754
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:45.840
like the one here. Yeah,
well yeah yeah, they Arizonable and Fiesta

755
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:49.199
Bowl has which is for teachers and
all these things. They pour, you

756
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:52.840
know, millions of millions of dollars
into the community. And I like it

757
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:57.800
because no one knows how to do
a bowl game like I mean, like

758
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:00.639
the Fiesta Bowl or the Rose Bowl. Right, it's just so fun.

759
00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:07.519
You have thousands and thousands of volunteers
like that as well. They're Yellow Jackets

760
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:09.440
and the Red Jackets and you know, all these kinds of things. So

761
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:13.239
you know, I like to see
it. There's some talk in the CFP.

762
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:17.039
We have CFP meetings six week and
uh, we'll see what happens.

763
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:21.000
And I think the bulls are a
big thing. I think, you know,

764
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:23.760
if you move to a bigger playoff, more games. I think there's

765
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:27.719
some people that are saying, oh, we should put some of these playoff

766
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:32.119
games on the campuses. But I
can't imagine. I really can't imagine a

767
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:38.320
small city at having the amount of
bandwidth. Yeah, just I mean just

768
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:42.639
even like picking people up at the
airport, right or all of these things

769
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:45.719
that people don't understand. The thousands. Oh, it's a major thing,

770
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:50.960
and so I hope that never ever
goes away. I love the tradition of

771
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:52.760
the balls. Sure, but there
are people who don't want I mean,

772
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:57.360
they want fewer games, fewer Bowl
games. I used to say, well,

773
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:00.559
listen, I get that. I
think we're saturated. But if we're

774
00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:05.079
just talking about the New Year's Eve
six and how it acts the yeah,

775
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:08.400
the road to the playoffs, I
mean, I just think there's nobody who

776
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:10.159
does it better. I mean,
you look at the sitest bowl of the

777
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:14.519
Orange Bowl, you know, the
Cutton Bowl, Combo, Yeah, Rose

778
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:19.639
Bowl. Yes, I like the
other bulls. But yeah, I was

779
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:22.599
gonna say, we only have a
minute. Jay Harpson this all the time,

780
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:27.320
he's he's never got to the Rose
Bowl. Nobody, here, are

781
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.480
we done? We're gotting? This
is it Arizona never getting too the Rose

782
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:35.800
Bowl? What the hell? Yet? Yeah, look at you and there's

783
00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:37.880
always the same like in the Bible. But god, you know, you're

784
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:40.559
like, oh this is all this
is bad stuff happened. It's like yet

785
00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:44.679
but god, you know, I
mean, listen, we're on the up

786
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:47.760
swing. Yeah, I don't count
anything out yet, Okay the optimist,

787
00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:52.199
Yes, Kerry SISI thank you.
It's a lot of fun. Steve,

788
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:58.119
who's your best guest so far?
Like you've had all these like experience forever,

789
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:04.480
like what you got twenty seconds?
You better h carry cecil. It's

790
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:07.000
a charmer. Look at us going. Hey, thanks for callers. It's

791
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:09.360
fun. Yeah, thanks for calling
in. Everybody will see you tomorrow or

792
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:13.199
no Monday, gotta come back Monday. We should take it out with like

793
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:16.679
Baird. We gotta go and seek
it tomorrow. Thanks everybody. Yeah,