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a little bit later in the show
to uh to look at some of the

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you know, likely selections tonight in
the second and third round of the NFL

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Draft. And trust me, we're
gonna get back into the little the Kentucky

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stuff because I do believe I've you
know, a lot of Kentucky fans are

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are you know, I guess seeing
this side of me for the first time

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or hearing this side of me for
the first time. You know, they

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you got to keep in mind for
if you're new to this show, like

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if you you know, you just
joined in the last couple of years or

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something, or maybe you were somebody
that joined the show when we made the

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move to afternoons. I mean,
I've never had you know, whenever I

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was talking about Cali Perry and you
know, rarely what I have a rivalry

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because Louisville's been pretty lifeless in this
basketball rivalry for the last couple of years,

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certainly during the Kenny Payne era.
So you you didn't hear me,

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you know, And I'm not even
really you know, it's trust me.

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It's not like I'm already saying louis
is going to beat Kentucky next year in

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the first ever Mark Pope versus Pat
Kelsey battle. But yeah, there's some

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life about the Louisville basketball fan base, and you know, I'm part of

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it, like I have life too, Like it's you know, it feels

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good to be excited, feels good
to look at the guys that he's brought

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in and know that they're still working
on some others and I have no clue

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of who they're going to be.
Nobody does, but I know it's not

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what we just had and that has
me excited. And when I would talk

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Kentucky and Poke fun at cal and
really highlight his shortfall or you know,

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his shortcomings and just the dynamic there
and how you know the fan base is

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over him. They're tired of him, you know, and it's it's a

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loveless marriage. You know, they're
stuck together because of the lifetime contract.

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And he's so like all if you
agreed, so like, there wasn't a

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whole lot of you know, I
mean, I think you all maybe not,

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you know, maybe there were some
that you know, agreed but didn't

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want to hear Louisville fans say it. But deep Dan, you agreed.

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Well, now that's a little bit
different. You know. I'm still gonna

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be fair like if. And that's
why whenever I started talking about, you

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know, the hilarious inability to acknowledge
that Mark Pope might miss on some guys.

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Yet if somebody doesn't end up going
to Kentucky, if somebody picks another

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school, somebody decides to stay at
BYU, if somebody decides to go to

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Louisville instead of going to Kentucky to
follow Mark Pope, like it's always something.

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There's no scenario that, like they
just lost a guy. It's hilarious

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to me. So when they do
get players, I'll acknowledge it. And

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they already have a good player,
you know, a Marii Williams I think

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it's his name, who transferre from
Drexel. Yes, I mean he's a

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good player. He's good. He's
certainly a good player. He'll probably be

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a guy that plays a lot of
minutes for him. And you know,

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he's top fifty ish, top forty
ish depending on where you look, and

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that was I mean that's but he's
the only guy they have right now that

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has ever played college basketball. So
you know, if they end up getting

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osor Bor or Osibor or the the
other guys that are you know, the

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kid from Saint Mary's, I mean, I don't think he's a guy that

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you feel like you're gonna make a
deep run with, but he's certainly a

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good piece. He's considering Yukon and
Kentucky, which those are. You know,

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if Hyukon wants him, then that
means everybody should want him. So

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you know they're gonna get good players
and they may end up having a roster

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that you know, at the end
of the summer we say, wow,

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you know, he did a pretty
good job. But you know, so

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far, they're off to a slow
start. Despite you know, Pope starting

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a little bit later than other coaches, including Kelsey, they're still off to

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a slow start, and they've lost
players and you know, guys they wanted

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that didn't want to go there,
and the inability to just acknowledge that as

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a rious to me. But again, I'll be fair, I always am.

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I'm a Louisville fan. I'm gonna
have fun with us. Was it

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two three weeks ago? But I
guess two weeks ago. Whenever, it

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feels like it was a year ago
when both these coaches were hired for some

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reason, doesn't it, John,
feels like it was so long ago,

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a totally different realm. Yeah,
so, you know, I'm always gonna

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be fair, but I now am
having fun with it more than I've been

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able to do in a long time. That's why, you know, when

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when once we knew that, you
know, first we knew Kelsey was in

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the mix, and then Pope,
despite nobody thinking it was possible, he

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ended up being the coach, and
he won the fan base over and again,

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it felt like there was life back
in his rivalry. And that's what

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Louisville fans are bringing to the you
know, to the table here and when

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we do you know, the rivalrying
for lack of a better word, I

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mean, so I think some people
are genuinely telling the truth when they say

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it's nice to see Louisville you know, back into it and you know,

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being you know, just trolling and
you know, talking back and just engaging

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in rivalry banter. But there's some
little like you know, like you know,

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offended by which you know that's the
case, you know, chill out,

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all right. So the NFL draft
last night, again we talked a

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lot about the obvious big reaction,
which is Michael Pennock Junior going to the

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Falcons when they just had signed Kirk
Cousins to a lucrative four year deal.

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The explanation that I heard from Schefter
was, I mean, it made sense,

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but it's you know, it still
just doesn't make sense though, to

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take him at eight. And what
Schefter said was they did let kirk Cousins

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know, like you know, I
guess a few minutes before they made the

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pick, and he was not you
know, not surprised. I'm sorry he

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was surprised, and was he bothered. I'm not sure. You know,

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he's not a guy that I think
you'd ever see publicly like you know,

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air out his team and you know
claim he's and he's not that kind of

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guy. In fact, Mark kirk
Cousins at one point kind of became like

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the punching back of the NFL,
I think because he got all that money

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from Washington and he never delivered in
the postseason. But he's a good quarterback.

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And that show on Netflix that I've
still not seen, called Quarterback,

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they profiled Patrick Mahomes Kirk Cousins,
and I believe was it Marcus Mariota,

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which is super random. It sounds
like kirk Cousins was like the most likable,

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relatable dude in the NFL. So
I think that won him some points

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where you know, people just won't
go out of their way to talk crap

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about him anymore. And he's a
good quarterback. He's not elite, but

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he's certainly better than a lot of
guys. Like whenever the Falcons signed him

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to that deal, I don't remember
there being like, Wow, you're giving

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kirk Cousins that I think people realize, look, you get what you pay

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for in the NFL. And he's
not you know, he's not Lamar Jackson,

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he's not Patrick Mahomes, he's not
Josh Allen, he's not Aaron Rodgers.

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But he's good and you can win
with him. So to see them

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make that pick, you know,
it just it's a head scratcher. But

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what Schefter said was that they had
gone through a really dysfunctional time with the

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quarterback position as soon as the Matt
Ryan era ended. And I guess when

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Matt Ryan, you know, was
there, you know, when he left

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and went to the Colts for a
while. I guess Matt Ryan's been gone

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with three years now, maybe from
from the Falcons. So you know,

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he was their guy forever, like
for what I mean fifteen years roughly,

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he was the guy in Atlanta,
took him to the Super Bowl, won

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an MVP. So life after Matt
Ryan was not great for them. They

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ended up drafting Desmond Ritter. No
offense to the local kid from Saint X,

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but like he ain't it. And
I think they wanted stability at quarterback

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to where whenever they do in fact
move on from a guy that is a

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veteran that did some good things.
And who knows if Kirk Cousins does that,

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but that at least made sense of
it. Like they don't just they

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never want to be in the position
they were in. I guess the last

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two years. I think that's the
best. Like, who was the quarterback

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for the Falcons as soon as as
soon as Matt Ryan left, because it

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wasn't Ritter, Ritter sat and was
was it Mariota? Now you know,

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see if you can't look that up
John, because it's somebody that like was

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a journeyman that probably just got the
gig, got the got the opportunity,

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and it wasn't He wasn't good.
So then they moved on to Ritter and

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those were failed experiments, so they
went. You know, they had two

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guys on their roster at quarterback and
both were bums essentially no offense. Again,

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I mean, hard to call somebody
a bum and not expecting them to

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be offended. But like Desmen,
Ridy wasn't was not good as their starter.

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And whoever that you know the guy
was, it was Mariota. Yeah,

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I mean he wasn't good either.
In fact, he and another fact,

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Mariota was kind of a. He
was kind of a problem for them,

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Like he once he realized he wasn't
going to be the guy anymore,

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you know, he started they claim, you know, saying he couldn't go

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and practice. And their coach,
who I think is already know he's already

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been replaced because they've got Rhee Morris
now believe is that who is Raheem Morris

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as their coach. Either way,
the coach at the time was pretty public

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about how like, you know,
he wasn't going to say that Mariota wasn't

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injured, but like clearly he was
just kind of poutent. So they had

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a very dysfunctional quarterback situation. So
then they signed Kirk Cousins, and I

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think they just want to know that
if they ever end up losing Cousins to

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an injury or maybe Cousin falls off
the that they can go to a guy

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like Pinnix, who whomever. Know, you never know how any of these

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guys are going to project in the
NFL, but he is somebody that they

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believe could step in if in whenever
Kirk Cousins is done. To do it

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at the eighth pick is wild,
but I think it means that then not

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only are they thinking about having some
long term stability. And I'm sure they

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watched what happened with Jordan Love this
year with the Packers. You know,

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he sat behind far forever or not
far Rogers, and when he did get

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to play, initially he didn't look
good. Well then you know, sure

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enough he became his team this year
this past season, I should say,

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and he was good, you know, blew out Dallas in the playoffs.

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And you know, I mean he
looks secific. He looks like he's a

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guy that will have a long future
and a successful future in Green Bay.

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So maybe they're just trying to mimic
that. But also what it tells you

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is that they love Michael Pennock stunor
Like, they don't do that unless they

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love that quarterback. So I guess
good on him. But like he can't

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be happy there, right, he
can't be happy to be I mean,

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Michael Pennox juer is twenty four years
old, doesn't mean that he's you know,

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actually people mention that, and I
just did too, Like that's not

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ideal. You'd rather have a guy
that you know, you feel like,

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can you know, can really grow, like he could be heck, he

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could be, you know, in
his third year as your starter and be

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thirty, which is just unusual.
But the way they protect quarterbacks now and

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the way quarterbacks take care of their
body, I mean, like Aaron Rodgers,

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there's no doubt in my mind that
once he's completely healed from his achilles

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injury, the way he plays and
the way that he's protected and should be

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protected, he could play forever.
I mean it would take probably like a

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show, some kind of an injury
to your arm to make it to where

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you can't or your shoulder to where
you can't. You can't, Like,

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no doubt in my mind, Tom
Brady could still play today. He's in

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phenomenal shape. I mean, he's
throwing the football. Guys, he's not

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you know, it's not he's not
there taking hits. He's not running the

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ball. So his age is not
as big of an issue. But I

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do understand why people bring it up. But what is in I mean,

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I'm not making fun here, John, but Indiana like they still claim him

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and it actually kind of think that's
cool. I mean yeah, because I

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mean, for the most part,
Indiana fans haven't had a lot to cheer

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about outside of the seasons where Michael
Pennix was doing good for the Hoosiers,

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and so when he went to Washington
and had success there, they kind of

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adopted Washington at least I did as
their team for that year. Yeah,

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and so now, at least for
me, if Pennix is able to do

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something with Atlanta or some other team
in the future, that's too. I'm

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going to form the NFL. He's
a pretty likable guy anyway. Yeah,

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it seems that way. So what
I think really is going to be the

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tell here is what Kirk Cousins does, because I actually have actually think that

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if he wanted, if he wanted
to force his way out, there are

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teams that don't feel good about their
quarterback position that would take him. Now,

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I don't know if I doubt the
Falcons would, would you know?

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I guess at this day and age, you can get what you want,

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right like if you hold out the
only the only position in the NFL.

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Unfortunately I shouldn't laugh when I say
it, because it is unfortunate for these

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guys. But the quarterbacks can hold
out and get what they want. They

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can running backs can receives usually can
I guess depends, you know? I

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still go back to Antonio Brown and
Le'Veon Bell with the Steelers because at the

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time that they held out and wanted
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and I think it was actually the
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just somebody having to really work hard
to manufacture this. This to be,

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you know, believable, it was. I think it was true. Leveon

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Bell and Antonio Brown were the two
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all that was going on, which
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they were in position to be the
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position and still didn't think it was
enough money. So the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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they didn't they didn't flinch. They
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they didn't pay them, and those
guys, I mean Leveon Bell sat for

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a year. I don't remember exactly
what happened with Brown, but we all

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know Bell and Brown their careers after
that. Nothing I mean, Brown did

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play for Was he on that Super
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was, but he still, you
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were in Pittsburgh and his his career
never was the same after that. So

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he ended up being a really wise
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also makes me appreciate Mike Tomlin because
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could kind of, you know,
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And I'm not even kidding you,
like this is kind of sad. You

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know what Le'Veon Bell does now to
make money only fans? Are you serious?

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I would have never guessed that he
does porn. I mean it's independently

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produced by himself. But like that
that tells you like he's he's I'm not

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laughing to make fun. I just
never would have guessed. I mean,

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you can make fun. I mean
that's I mean, that's Does he have

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a name? I wonder, like
a separate name? I mean, no,

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it's him, Like it's mean though, that's why people are signing up,

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Like you know, if people do
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well, I say separate name for
sometimes they have like a stage name.

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Yeah, I don't know what would
Le'Veon Bell's only fans stage name be.

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I'm gonna google Le'Veon Bell only fans
and I want it on the record.

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It is on the record here.
We're gonna make sure we keep this audio

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because if I ever get like flagged
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like it's part of the just part's
content. Yeah, yeh right now

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if you go to so it's just
Leveon bell and he has two hundred and

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forty four pieces of content. His
last post was two days ago, and

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yeah, I mean I can't see
it because but yeah, thirty five dollars

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per month and you can get I
guess you know, X rated content from

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free plug from from Leveon Bells.
It doesn't show me how many people have

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like are have paid for it.
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of content. I can't it is
you know, I gotta pay for it

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to see it, which I don't
want to. But two days ago he

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said, who trying to join me
a lot? You know? You know

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you can, you can let your
imagination maybe see what I mean. As

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soon as you get a dose of
me, I'm gonna keep you coming back.

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That's what one of the pieces of
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title, ooh, no workout today? So I got energy for that,

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he's insinuating he has the energy for
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like that's what a wild road we
just went down talking about not even

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sure what, but he's proven you
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it doesn't work out for you.
Who says the life after the NFL,

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you know, can't be fun and
lucrative. But I was just saying,

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guys like holding out, they they
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becomes a headache. Now, maybe
they don't end up where they want to

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go as far as a trade destination
all that kind of stuff. But Kirk

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Cousins, if he wanted out,
he could get out of Atlanta. But

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I'm not sure, you know,
to me, he seems like somebody that

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would you know, would probably handle
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not gonna, I mean, he's
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their guy. And and to be
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know, knowing that they're taking the
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signed you, it would make you, you know, raise your eyebrown and

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think like, what are you guys
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think you could trust the Falcons if
they told you this has nothing to do

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with what we think of you,
and we are we don't have any plans

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for you to not be our guy
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and then you go out there and
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then then you know, heck,
maybe if he kills it in Atlanta,

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maybe they trade Pinnix or something because
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a guy that can still play it
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quarterbacks, you know, especially guys
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just kind of lose your edge,
right, your arm is not as strong

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as it once was. But I
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I mean, look at look at
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came back last year for the Browns. He was phenomenal in that role.

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You know, he wasn't like the
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you know, I just I think
physical ability is going to be there when

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these guys get older. It's just
about, you know, no team's going

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to want to make you the franchise
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you're already the franchise quarterback and you're
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in age and you can keep performing, I think they will keep you around,

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all right. So real quick,
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I wanted to mention this, so
David Tepper, he is the owner of

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the of the Carolina Panthers, and
he's believed to be, you know,

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a real a hole and he's shown
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guy who last season was fined three
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he was in his his suite at
a home game I'm sorry it was.

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It was in the Jacksonville Stadium at
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He was in the you know,
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get when they travel, very nice. Obviously, there were fans below him,

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below the suite that knew he was
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were heckling him or whatever. And
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fan of Jacksonville fan of Carolina,
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As the owner of the of a
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from somebody who owns an NFL team. So that to me showed this guy

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was really thin skinned. Well check
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I'm surprised it's not become a bigger
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know what you know, I don't
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But David Tepper when he was either
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There was a restaurant in Charlotte that
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up to the draft that said,
let the coach and GM make the draft

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picks this year. It just said
that, like, you know, instead

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of happy Hour four to six or
you know wings, you know, fifty

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nine cents, they just said,
let the coach and GM make the picks

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this year, you know, kind
of having some fun because the Panthers don't

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feel like they've drafted well in recent
years meeting their fans, and Temper is

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one of those guys that gets in
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hires and pays a lot of money
to handle the football stuff. So this

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a hole showed up to the restaurant
who put the sign up and walked in

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and they ended up shaking hands as
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walked in, you know, like
the hostess standing there where like they've got

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like the where they write your name
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He's wearing Carolina Panthers hat and Tepper
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of the guy and you can't hear
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kind of like, you know,
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who works there. But he takes
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it down, and you know,
I guess it's just giving the guy a

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hard time for what has been said. A lot of a lot of layers

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here. One what a loser?
Like are you that thin skinned? Like

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that's you're the owner of the team, and that level of criticism, which

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again is kind of in fun.
It's not even I mean, I guess

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it is about you, but like
it it's nobody. It didn't say fire

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David Tepper, which again you can't
he owns the team, but he showed

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up, pulled his hat off his
head, and initially is you know,

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being you know, in alpha,
pretty aggressive, you know, probably just

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trying to intimidate this guy because you
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the Carolina Panthers, just walked into
his bar. But what a loser.

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I mean in another thing, I
feel like taking somebody's hat off there,

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taking another man's hat off his head
when you approach him to address something you're

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unhappy with, you can get punched
in the face. You're crossing the line

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that, yeah, taking another man's
hat off his head, Like I kind

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of you know, I've been watching
a lot of tiktoks where you know,

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like cop stuff. Have you ever
seen like the the you know, people

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getting arrested and you know, like
they love to like just antagonize police officers

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thinking that they know like what line
they can it can't cross, and then

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they do something to where like you
know, nope, yeah that's it.

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You're now you're getting arrested. Like
they just love to do it, and

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they video everything. Oh wan's your
badge number? Or like just you know

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the people who are you know,
just the worst and anytime like you make

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contact like that, like it's I
mean technically if I've got my phone out

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and i'm and I'm filming you John
because I'm you know, you're you're doing

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something you shouldn't be doing, and
you like grab my phone from me.

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Like people get arrested for that and
they call it some level of assault.

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I know nothing about you know,
charges or anything like that, but like

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if the dude knocked him out after
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Like I'm curious, would he be
facing charges or would it be seen as

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like you're defending yourself because the man
took his took your hat off your head.

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All right, don't go anywhere,
keep it locked right here. Coffee

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and Company Filbeth Thornon's on Sports Talk
seven to ninety. We're about halfway to,

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you know, getting out here for
the weekend. Halfway through. Maybe

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your weekend's already started. If so, cheers, maybe happy hour has started

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for you. Fridays have turned into
the most low key day of the week

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for us, and I really like
that, which is, you know,

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I guess it's a good thing,
but it's just so unusual. Every Friday,

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for you know, the majority of
my adult life, I have you

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know, not every time I've done
the same thing, but it's usually Okay,

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it's Friday, so let's go get
dinner somewhere, let's connect with some

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friends. Even when we had kids, we'd go meet up with other friends

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who have kids and just do something. And I'd say, in the last

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few months. More often than not, on a Friday, John, I

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get home from work, my wife
and the kids are already there, you

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know, they're and they used to
be waiting for me to like go somewhere,

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and now we just kind of hang
out at the house and it's kind

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of awesome. Awesome. Well,
I mean you're just saying that to be

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nice. I mean, that's what
I'm gonna do tonight. I'm I'm a

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loser though, what I'm a loser
for somebody my age? What would you

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say that if I had friends,
Like I'm more than if I had friends

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ask me to do something, I'm
more than likely to say no, especially

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last minute, and to go out
and do something on a Friday night.

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If I have something planned, it's
a different story. But if you need

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you need something planned right, like
you're not like you're not the guy that's

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like you know, like if you
don't know ahead of time, you don't

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want to be hit. You know, if if somebody asks you to do

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something with like you know, an
hour or two hours notice, like you

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don't feel bad about saying no because
they just told you, right, yeah,

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not at all. Yeah, So
we you know, when we don't

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have plans. We usually just like, you know, okay, let's go

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let's go to elm Apauling at dinner, Let's go to roosters. Uh,

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you know, let's you know,
let's go somewhere and just be out of

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the house. And you know,
now we kind of stay at home and

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I kind of like it. We
save money. You can start having fires

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in your backyard, so I did
last night. Yeah, I think,

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Uh, we don't have a fire
pit, but we do have a backyard

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we don't utilize. We've got a
nice back porch, you know, with

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you know, TV, and it's
covered, and we have a big enough

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backyard for the kids to run around
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We got a trampoline. Uh.
So yeah, I it's a good

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thing. But it's just different for
me. Like I feel a little underwhelmed

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knowing I don't have anything in the
works tonight. But I shouldn't feel that

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way, right, I Mean,
my day was made earlier whenever I had

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the first field trip experiences as a
parent. I talked about at the beginning

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of the show. I went to
the zoo with my my daughter Maya and

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her classmates, and it was I
mean that my weekend. I mean,

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my weekend is only going to go
down from there because that was that was

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a heck heck of an experience.
So tomorrow full day getting like this is,

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this is me getting older, John
right in front of your eyes.

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Fridays are now kind of nothing.
I mean not to say I want to

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enjoy being home with my family,
but like we don't do anything, we

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know, any plans. We just
kind of low key. I'll watch the

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draft at home and probably you know, go back and forth and troll Kentucky

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fans on Twitter. I mean that's
probably going to be the evening and then

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tomorrow full day of baseball. Maya's
got her game at the Miracle League Moose,

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He's got team pictures, so that's
another day at the ballpark that'll be

407
00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:51.160
later. So you know, that's
that's life now. Sunday, you know,

408
00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:52.759
we usually end up going to watch
my nephew play in his game.

409
00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:56.920
So I'm just an all around family
man, which you know, nothing better

410
00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:00.359
than that, right, you're in
your mid thirties, got too just the

411
00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:02.720
way to do it. Yeah,
I mean, I'm sure there's others that

412
00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:04.200
are listening that are older, maybe
my age, maybe younger They're like,

413
00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:07.880
man, this guy sounds boring as
hell. I'm gonna make sure it never

414
00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:11.640
get married and have kids because that
life is not fun. And it is

415
00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:15.319
fun, I promise you. All
right, let's go to the text line.

416
00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:18.920
Five O two six five three zero
seven ninety is the number if you

417
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:21.720
want to shoot us a text again. It's the llen N Federal Credit Union

418
00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:27.160
text line. This text says,
Nick, do you worry about the amount

419
00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:32.599
of transfers that come in it?
I think what you're trying to say is

420
00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:34.759
is it like will they work to
will they work well together? I mean,

421
00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:37.720
that's that's the risk. And then
the same person ended up texting a

422
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.759
little bit later on in the show
about like nil stuff, and I think

423
00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:44.480
what you're I think what you're putting
together here in the text line that I'm

424
00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:48.279
trying to interpret without reading the whole
thing. You know, is there a

425
00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:51.880
worry that all these guys from all
these different places that have never played together

426
00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:55.880
will will it all work? Will
they gell? Is there gonna be chemistry?

427
00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:59.920
And I think another part of that
question was about, like nil,

428
00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:03.640
are people going to get jealous over
somebody making more money than the other?

429
00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:07.759
I mean those are all legitimate questions
that you just there's no way to know

430
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:12.839
until until you know, right,
guys that come from the portal, and

431
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:18.359
then this may just this may sound
like me doing some mental gymnastics on my

432
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:22.160
end, kind of like Kentucky fans
are doing about players who just you know,

433
00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:23.880
And again doesn't mean anything's wrong with
Kentucky, but they will they just

434
00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:26.200
cannot accept that somebody just didn't want
to come there. They didn't want to

435
00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:29.799
go to Kentucky play for Mark Pope. Like it happens, it's normal.

436
00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.960
What you guys had with Caliperry for
fifteen years was not normal. But anyways,

437
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:37.200
this could be a reach here,
but I'm just gonna I'm just gonna

438
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:38.880
share it. And if you think
it's a reach and you want to clown

439
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:42.160
me and call me cardboy, that's
fine. His cardboy was gone for a

440
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:45.480
while. He's back now. I
mean, John, you can feel it

441
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:47.680
too, right, I can definitely
feel it. Am I ready to see

442
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:49.920
the full yeah evolution. I mean
you saw it with Brahm, but now

443
00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:52.559
with basketball. I mean it's it's
it's about to be back. For those

444
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:56.119
who don't know, I mean they
were for a couple of years when I

445
00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:57.880
was on in the mornings, you
know Kentucky fans that would call in or

446
00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:00.559
text in that you just want to
do, you know, call me a

447
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.960
homer. They just what I did
was I made a mistake. I read

448
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:07.359
one text where somebody called me cardboy, and that was just an invitation for

449
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:08.799
everybody to call me cardboy. So
you know, you live and you learn.

450
00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:11.160
And now I've just mentioned it again, but I'm fine with it.

451
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:15.480
I'll wear it for Pat Kelsey if
that's what he wants. But bringing in

452
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:23.240
three to four veterans in the portal
that are joining a nucleus that's already together

453
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:29.759
with returning players and a couple of
freshmen that can work. But I think

454
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:33.119
that actually may in fact be a
little bit of a different process. The

455
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:37.680
fact that everybody's new. You know, nobody's going to I mean, I

456
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:40.599
don't feel like there's going to be
a sense of entitlement from any of these

457
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:44.640
guys, right, I mean,
certainly some players are better than the others,

458
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:45.960
and certainly there's going to be a
couple guys. Who knows, maybe

459
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:49.200
there's ends up being a big time
edition that quite literally is the best player

460
00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:52.599
on this team and it's not even
a debate. We don't know, but

461
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:56.559
I think it being completely brand new
with a brand new coach that none of

462
00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:00.279
these guys have played for. Some
would say, well, that's just there's

463
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:03.000
no way that could work early on
because it's a working Why not. I

464
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:07.279
mean, I actually think there's not
a whole I mean there's there being an

465
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:11.200
adjustment for everybody involved. Making the
same level of adjustment. I think actually

466
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:15.559
gives it a better chance to work
out than when you have three to four

467
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:18.880
guys that are joining something that's already
in place. Everybody's having to adapt.

468
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:22.039
It's a collective thing here. Doesn't
mean that. I mean, I'm not

469
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:26.720
saying I'm not spinning it as that's
a positive, but I'm just saying like

470
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.079
that, you don't have to worry
about, you know, because there is

471
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:32.519
guy for example, I'll give you
a name. There's a guy who transferred

472
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:37.079
in that you know, he was
a I don't know if it as a

473
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:38.680
person, but you know, he
didn't really he didn't fit and he didn't

474
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:42.799
he couldn't really adjust to what was
going on at Louisville. And that was

475
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:45.920
Tony Hicks. If you remember that
name, transfer from Penn was I believe

476
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:51.359
on Rick Patino's last team, uh
here, maybe second to last team.

477
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:55.440
And he was a fine player at
Penn and occasionally he got in did some

478
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:59.839
things, but like he he went
from being the man at Penn and he'd

479
00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:02.640
all have been, you know,
kind of dismissed from Penn to where he

480
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:06.279
came to Louisville. And you know, it's Rip Patino different than whoever you

481
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:11.240
play for Penn and Donovan Mitchell's there
and Dgadel and Race Baulding and I mean

482
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:12.839
it was a different world and he
just didn't you know, that's an adjustment

483
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:17.599
period all these I mean, everybody's
adjusting now. And as far as the

484
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:19.839
NIL stuff, I mean, that
is something that I think will always be

485
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:23.440
there and you just have to manage
it, right. It's not I mean,

486
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:27.039
you can do everything, you know
you can. There are folks that

487
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:32.359
are working for the fundraising side of
you know, I mean folks that left

488
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:34.680
the fundraising side of UFL Athletics to
go work for the FABO two circle that

489
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:37.960
are talking to you know, people
at u of L to makes you know,

490
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:41.960
arranging what makes the most sense for
these guys to be paid, How

491
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:47.680
it's going to be divvied out and
covering themselves from guys getting paid and leaving.

492
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:52.200
So it's a it's a you know, it's a full process here.

493
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:59.039
But the worry about guys yapping about
what they're being paid, like bragging or

494
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:03.039
maybe lying to you know that you
just that that's probably gonna happen. In

495
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:04.920
fact, you know a lot of
those guys that left in the portal,

496
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:07.319
you know they were doing that.
You know, they I don't you know,

497
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.079
I don't know what their intent was, but they came here, they

498
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.400
got n I all money, and
they were creating trouble in the locker room.

499
00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:17.799
They were they were trying to for
whatever reason, maybe because they knew

500
00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:21.920
they were on their way out,
they were trying to damage the environment in

501
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:25.759
the locker room and in the camaraderie, the morale, and Jeff Bram is

502
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:27.880
not going to stand for that,
which is why he essentially told them to

503
00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:32.880
get out and you know, quite
literally like forced them to leave. Now

504
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:33.720
they were already gona leave anyway,
So it's not as if, you know,

505
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:36.759
he didn't want them on the team, but once he realized what was

506
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:40.640
going on, like they're out of
here, and what these guys don't realize

507
00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:48.160
is excuse me. If you're going
to be pursued in the portal after you've

508
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:51.960
left the school, they're going to
contact like, you know, unless the

509
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:56.799
coach feels like you've tampered. Coaches
talk so like there are dudes who've burned

510
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.759
bridges when they leave and they'll end
up elsewhere, but it's not where they

511
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:04.039
want it, not where they thought
they'd be. Because you bring in a

512
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:08.079
bad apple and he gets it.
You know, he has influence, meaning

513
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:12.440
he's a player that you know,
players you know kind of gravitate towards.

514
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:15.480
But if he's a bad apple,
he can ruin your locker room and that

515
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.440
can make a team that has a
lot of potential be bad. So those

516
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:22.160
are just things throughout this new world
of NIL that you wait and you see

517
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:26.559
right and and when if there is
something that that's that you know appears to

518
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:32.319
be funky, meaning like you know, somebody maybe being a bad apple and

519
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:36.839
trying to create drama for whatever reason, you know, lying about how much

520
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:38.480
money they're getting in NIL, and
then other players hear about that and they

521
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:41.759
believe it and they get jealous.
Like those are just things that are probably

522
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:44.680
gonna happen, and you know,
you got to deal with it. You

523
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:48.119
got to handle it. I mean, I would hope that that Kelsey you

524
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.200
know, knows the players he's bringing
in are high quality guys, but you

525
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.759
don't know. I mean, you
never know until you know you're actually they're

526
00:31:55.759 --> 00:32:00.359
actually here. So dates your question. I don't worry as much about that,

527
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:02.880
but not because I'm telling you that, like it won't be a bit.

528
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:06.599
It's just something you can't control until
it happens, and then you got

529
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:08.240
to you gotta nip it in the
bud, like like Jeff Brohm did.

530
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:13.640
But I'm curious. I wonder how, I mean, I wonder how much

531
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:16.960
like I'm weird like this, I
don't want to know what anybody makes.

532
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:21.720
I don't want anybody knowing what I
make, Like you know, I just

533
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:25.440
have always It's been my nature to
finances in every aspect. I just just

534
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:30.680
I think that should be private from
everybody, meaning like I you know,

535
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:35.119
I don't want my mom knowing my
finances. It's not because I'm hiding something

536
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.240
from her, and really it's not
her business and I think she knows that.

537
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:37.799
And I don't know why I'm bringing
up my mom. But like that's

538
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:42.160
somebody who's close to me that knows
probably everything about me more than anybody else

539
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:44.920
in the world. But like,
I've just always felt like, like salary

540
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:47.599
expenses. I mean, there's certain
things you can find out if you look

541
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:51.079
hard enough, because you know,
the Internet, but I've just always been

542
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.599
very private about that, and I've
learned that, like some are just like

543
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:58.400
me, but others are the opposite. Like I'll be having dinner with friends

544
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:01.720
and you know, acquaintances, and
they'll just start yapping about their salary.

545
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:06.400
And sometimes I think it's probably exaggerated
to brag. And sometimes I'm like,

546
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:08.240
damn, why would you tell people
that, Like, you know, I

547
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:12.920
just but it's just it's probably it's
just a difference in personalities, Like I've

548
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.880
I've worked with people here who and
what we do for the most part,

549
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.079
like it ranges as far as how
much you know, how much money you

550
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:21.359
make and all that kind of stuff. We're all on contracts and how we

551
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:22.839
make money and how we actually you
know, are able to do well for

552
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:28.440
ourselves depends upon which companies want to
work with us. But you know,

553
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:31.240
you never really know, like unless
you're somebody that works internally and you know,

554
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:34.559
puts that stuff together as far as
endorsement piece and all that. But

555
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.240
like nine out of ten people I've
worked with here, it's just a known

556
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:40.440
thing. Like it doesn't come up
because what happens. And I actually think

557
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:45.279
this is this is probably what would
happen. Like if I knew, you

558
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:49.759
know, what a guy down the
hall and I'm not talking about Terry Minors

559
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.119
because obviously you know he's he's a
legend, but just if I knew,

560
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:59.640
you know, sports radio Derek was
you know, on it on mid days

561
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:05.119
and he was making twice as much
as I was making. First of all,

562
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.280
I'd be pissed, right, but
it would also consume me, like

563
00:34:07.360 --> 00:34:08.760
it would it would? It would? It would? It would? It

564
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:12.320
would take it? Would it would
make me? Maybe it would. It

565
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:14.159
wouldn't be good for me. I
don't want to know, because you know,

566
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:16.119
first of all, I probably can't
control it, and also it would

567
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.000
it would mess with me. So
I've always just kept stuff private. I

568
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:22.199
feel like if you are a player, I guess it just depends on your

569
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.639
personality. But like I would assume
a lot of these guys aren't super public

570
00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:29.000
about what money they're making. But
maybe I'm wrong. Maybe maybe I'm the

571
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:31.400
one who's in the minority and everybody
talks about that kind of stuff. What

572
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:35.079
do you think, John, you
think in the Indiana locker room those players

573
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.559
are public about what money they're making. That's a good question because I mean

574
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:42.239
they're kids. I mean, they
may not really think much about trying not

575
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:46.159
to be abrasive and braggy about it. So that's a tough question. Yeah,

576
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:51.280
I just I mean even if you
had them sign like an NDA to

577
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:53.239
where they were not allowed to be
public, like they were not allowed to

578
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:58.119
disclose it, which those things exist
in you know, professional life. But

579
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:00.960
you know, they're college athletes,
like they'll probably they're gonna talk, you

580
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:04.280
know what I mean actually like roommates. I bet they known each other,

581
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:08.920
ye think. So that hasn't been
something I've thought about a whole lot because

582
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:13.599
this is still relatively brand new,
to be honest with you, meaning players

583
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:15.280
being able to get paid and all
that, but like how it all works

584
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:20.039
right, how it comes together,
how the money is dispersed and all that.

585
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:22.400
Like, I mean, I've never
once thought about, like, do

586
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:28.639
you think they all know what they
make? I would imagine that they probably

587
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:32.079
have. I mean, they've probably
heard something, but they're probably not showing

588
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:37.000
like their deposits, right, Like
I wouldn't think so are you do you

589
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.719
do you think people are more my
side of that or more the other way.

590
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:47.360
As far as just finances salary expenses, like I worth, like,

591
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:52.599
I just think that's always something that
it should be private. The unwritten rule

592
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:57.000
of when you're asking any man in
question is don't ask their salary. Yeah,

593
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:59.800
I mean, I just think it's
and that's not to say because you're

594
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.199
arist of what you make. It's
just because like it's just you know,

595
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:06.760
I don't think that's anybody's business.
Yeah, And it's something that I actually

596
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.679
think people will judge you on,
which you know, maybe I don't know.

597
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:13.480
There are certain jobs like that are
public government jobs, like you can

598
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:15.320
look it up and all that,
but I think even that shouldn't be allowed.

599
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:19.800
But I guess if it's you know, taxpayer money that's going towards it,

600
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:24.719
then I guess it makes a little
more sense. But anyways, as

601
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:27.880
I just said, it's still brand
news. So there may be some things

602
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.719
that arise from the Anile world in
a year or two or maybe in a

603
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:31.760
few months that like we never would
have thought of him. Were like,

604
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:35.519
oh yeah, I could see where
that that could be a problem paying these

605
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:40.000
college athletes. I mean, it's
it's that it's just a different world than

606
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:43.119
what we were used to. All
right, quick break, we'll come back

607
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:45.320
on the other side. Wrap up
the four o'clock hour right here on Sports

608
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Talk seven ninety. All right,
so Mark Pope landed a player. John

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did you see this? I didn't. Who do we got here, Lamont

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Butler? You ever heard of him? I don't think so. San Diego

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State. So he has committed to
Tucky. He looks like is he a

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cute little three star? He is
ranked as the seventy third best player in

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the portal, behind him Maury Williams. And he was a four year guyt

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San Diego State average nine points a
game last year and was played twenty six

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minutes per game for the San Diego
State team that played in the National Championship

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against Yukon. So a veteran guy, probably a good depth guy. I

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mean, maybe he ends up being
your starter. I mean again, I

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know he played for San Diego State
whenever they went all the way to the

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championship. But you know, San
Diego State's in the Mountain West. Kentucky's

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a different level. He never averaged
double figures in his time. But you

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know that's in all seriousness, and
I mean this, this is the kind

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of guy you need, like just
because if he's your third guard, like

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that's a good place to be in
because he's good means good enough. Now

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he's like your main guy, I
think you'd be in trouble. But I

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don't think he'll be Kentucky's main guy. I would imagine they'll have, you

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know, other players that would have
I guess more of a prominent role.

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But uh yeah, Lamont Butler,
a six to two combo guard, has

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committed to I was about to say
John Keller Perry committed to Bark Pope and

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Kentucky. And for those that didn't
get you know John John's reference to the

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you know, cute little three stars
because you know they're and this is something

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you should do as a fan,
like you should be excited when you get

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a player. You should, you
know, I mean that's what fans do,

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right, Like, there's no scenario
where you should you know. I

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mean, I guess if like your
roster's filled with dudes who you like,

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No aren't good then you know that's
not ideal. But honestly, it's your

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it would be your coach's fault,
not these players fault, right, it's

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I mean, he's the guy who
would won them. But you know the

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reaction when they would land you know, five McDonald's all Americans. You know,

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there was a level of like excitement
that was you know, justified.

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The same level of and I think
is there with some of these guys.

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And again, like what are you
gonna do like not be excited? Like

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and you need players like this is
a good sign. They landed one,

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they needed one. They now have
two guys that you know, have some

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experience. The other two that are
in the fold. One is a transfer

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from Byu who's never played, and
then obviously Travis Perry who's a true freshman.

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So you know it, this was
a good pickup for Mark Pope in

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every aspect. But seeing them celebrate
getting players that for fourteen years they would

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mock Louisville and other fan bases for
celebrating these players, it's just it's just

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so different, you know what I
mean, It's just different. But you

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know it'll be an adjustment. And
again they needed this, like they needed

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another guy just to give them a
little bit more of a foundation to kind

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of build with. And I think
the ideal for a lot of coaches here

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is you know, and again I
say a lot, not many are doing

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what Louis's doing here. I would
say Louisville, Kentucky, or I mean

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Louis l Kentucky. Louis Kentucky,
Arkansas and and USC actually think is the

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other example of a team that kind
of was starting completely over. And I

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think USC and Eric Musselman have done
a pretty good job. I think he's

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added quite a few transfers, and
I know he brought at least one or

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two freshmen that he had signed with
him at Arkansas. So it's rare to

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have this many open spots that you
got to go fill. So I think

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the idea in this spot would be
let's go, let's go lock in starters

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and then try to build depth.
But once you have to start adding guys

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who quite clearly can see that you
are that second tier, that second wave

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because they've already kind of got the
core together, that's where it becomes more

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difficult to land, you know,
players, because a lot of players don't

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want that. And I would imagine
Lamont Butler probably feels confident enough that he

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could have a big role there.
But also, you know, I wouldn't

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be shocked if they go get players
that are just better than him to where

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he's still gonna play. But maybe
he's not, you know, maybe he's

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your sixth man or seventh man or
something like that. But again, the

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kind of player he is, I
think is the guy that oftentimes in this

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situation I would assume would be harder
to get. But he's committed to Kentucky.

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Lamont Butler six to senior combo guard
from San Diego State. All right,

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let's take top of the hour break. We'll come back one more hour

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to go finish strong. Five o'clock
on a Friday. Let's party

