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This is a downbeat on ninety seven
to one The Freak. All right,

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it is the Boob Hour here nine
pm. I'm sorry, it's nine am.

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It's at PM and night hours.
What are you doing for that Houston

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trip? But we're back. What's
boob hour? The final hour of the

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show. I've never heard you say
that before. It's good thing, man,

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it's been taken off. It's all
over Blue Sky. I'm Kevin Turner

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with Danny Bayless, Mike Siroy,
JJ Jackson producing our show and we we're

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gonna have some map stuff. We're
the home of the Dallas Mavericks. We

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have MAVs and Spurs. Tonight eight
point thirty here on the Freak. Pregame

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begins at eight and it's a big
night for a lot of different reasons outside

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the fact that it's opening night.
And help get us prepared. As one

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of our good, good, good
good friends. You know him from many

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things. You might just know him
as the Machine Mike, the Machine Marshall

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live via the technology known as zoom. He is, oh, Mike,

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hello, Hello, do you have
me there? He is got you loud

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and clear, good shirt on,
some some hip art over his shoulder.

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I took all those You did take
those photos? Yeah, those are mine.

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That's my film photography in the background
for the radio listener, amateur photographer,

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and he took them from an I
stole him from a museum. Actually,

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Google Haim never heard of it.
Yeah, they're still looking for a

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six or three guy with a big
butt. Yeah, yeah, just just

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yeats on the back side. Machine's
pretty good at hoops. But we said,

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I don't know. You came up
earlier promoting at the six o'clock hour.

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I know you're listening. I know
your wall to wall. Yeah,

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I was up of course every day. And Machine's pretty good at hoops,

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but that's a different category. And
then we commented on your giant ass,

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and Danny said that what he could
have said that tonight, that Machine if

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inserted into the MAVs game as I
don't know, small forward, power forward,

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whatever you want, that he could
he could box out win Banyana and

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get at least three boards. Oh
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easy, like box him out to
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Well, that little stick man,
you know, I love you,

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But I said, Machine would never
touch the basketball much less rip three boards,

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three three boards in seven minutes.
Three boards. He was like seven

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four. That's so unfair. Yeah, but that booty man just muscling out

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there. It's an odd it's an
odd season for the MAVs in the in

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for the like season opener for tonight's
game, which we're stoked for and we're

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fired up from MAVs. It's weird
that, you know, Rangers are still

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playing with all these other sports that
still huh. It kind of did,

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but every other year it's like,
oh my god, it's maps season opener

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and the biggest commonation is someone on
the other team. So I'm gonna do

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it much like everyone else and start
with Wemby. I know you're probably excited

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to get your first look at this
dude too. So what are your I

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don't know thoughts expectations on what he
is tonight? What he is this season?

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I mean, are we about to
see the greatest one to one in

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twenty years? As it's also exactly
twenty years to the week that Lebron debuted

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in the NBA. Yeah, I
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All Star probably this year. I
think the raw numbers and the opportunities and

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unless he gets injured, right,
which for a big man, I think

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he's done a really good job of
staying on the floor and not getting those

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foot injuries that linger with big dudes. But I think all Star is the

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expectation for this season. I think
twenty and ten and some insane highlights every

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single night. Probably the most impactful
player or draft pick since Lebron James at

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the one one. So he's gonna
live up to the hype. I've no

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doubt about that. It's the health, it's the longevity of the it's eighty

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two games, like even you know, five years into Lucas career, he

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has some struggles having a balanced season, right or not getting that two to

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four week absence that comes with it. So it's it's a different game.

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It's a man's game, and it's
it's it is a marathon in every kind

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of way. But yeah, I
mean he's spectacular. There's no one in

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the league like that right now.
I mean it's it's a combination of you

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know, he needs to get some
touchdown there. But if it's like a

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Keem size at that generation of the
difference that he was from everyone, with

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that kind offensive skill with giving a
crap on defense, which is kind of

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different from a lot of the American
prospects that come out. And yeah,

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he's just he's one of one man
there. There's no one quite like Wimby

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in the league right now. You
know what, The only person I think

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of is Chet Holmgren, who's not
proven anything. But like, where are

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the hell are these people coming from? Yeah, yeah, he already Chet

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already broke his foot ones right,
Yeah, so that's he missed his entire

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rookie season, so he's eligible for
Rookie of the Year, which is interesting

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that he can go head to head
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But yeah, I mean at the
international big man is a different big man

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at this point. They just asked
them to do different things. I mean,

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we've got talked about this for years
with with Jokic and with i mean

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even back to Dirk. It's just
a different player. They asked them to

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do different things. They don't make
them play like you know, vikings in

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the post and like pound out offensive
rebounds and things like that. Is different

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style of game. And they played
different sports growing up as well. So

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it's it's the best. It's obviously
the best caliber of big man right now

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is the international big man. I
mean, it's Giannis, it's Embeid,

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it's Jokich, it's about to be
Wimby. So if you can get one,

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I think it opens up different layers
of your game, unlike the American

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big man right now, who kind
of gets ruined by AAU basketball in my

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opinion. So anyway, there's some
nerd talk for you. Will You mentioned

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Mike that he is no slouch on
defense, so no elephant, would you

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say that? Take a blame for
that. I drove down there last night

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off. Yeah, I don't want
to knock it's late. I'll just yeah.

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It was more like, what are
we gonna order for lunch on Friday?

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And everyone gets back. It was
like that, and then a little

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bit of like scouting report paperwork in
there, but everyone glommed onto that.

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But yeah, you don't need everyone's
Popeye's order for Friday. You talked about,

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you know, and obviously the the
evolution of the big euro that can

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shoot the hell out of the ball, But defensively at that size, I

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don't know a lot about this kid
defensively, but does he have the capacity

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in the upside to be able to
be like with with at seven four,

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to be among the lead leader leaguer, the league leaders in blocks. Oh,

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absolutely, yeah, he's as a
help defender. He will erase possessions.

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You won't see him coming, and
you'll you'll put the ball in a

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place where you think no one on
the court can get it, and then

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this giant, giant back comes flying
in and takes it from you. That's

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terrify, Absolutely, that's really yeah. Yeah, it's very scary. And

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I there was a there was a
part of me that died on on lottery

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night whenever the Spurs got that pick. I was like, Oh, of

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course it's the Spurs. Of course
it's the Spurs. What else do you

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need? I mean, you had
Tim Duncan, you had David Robinson,

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Like you're gonna have three of the
best, what like six big men in

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the history of the league. In
San Antonio at the Thompson Hotel with their

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unsecure and the emergency door just wedged
open with a fire hight. That would

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have never happened to a stay America. No, right, couldn't happen.

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They really were checking us in very
It took forever to get in our room

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at the extended stay. The guard
Dog would have kept the scouting report Burgers

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for god, Yes, from getting
access. So okay, this is by

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the way, this is Mike Marshall
from the Dallas works for the Dallas Mavericks.

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But he's there. Good for his
whole title. Dude, Digital VP

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of the Dallas Mavericks and more.
Is your title change? You're still digital

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VP. You got any cool new
titles you're making? No, not really,

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just VP of Content. I think
that kind of stands on its own,

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the VP of Content. I was
just wondering to see you in the

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Dallas Observer Awards, So you know, I'm sure you're doing fun. They're

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doing your best. I just wonder
that they give one away for that.

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I just wonder after years. I
just wonder, after years of being the

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vice president of digital. You know, if you ever have any intentions of

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running for president? Yeah, yeah, I got a big campaign launching next

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year. I'm gonna try and unseat
this uh this, this guy whoever that

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is. There's not a president.
You should tell her you're running for a

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president next year. Next season.
Yeah. Hosting stuff around the office like

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vote for me, like free lunches
in the cafeteria, that kind of cris

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machine. Cor No, I'm not
running with that guy. No, you're

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insane. Now can we can we
talk about what everybody wants to talk about

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though, Go ahead, So,
Mike, we we did it. We

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did it. We ranch sacked the
world series Machine has been on a quest

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of ranch sack things and he does
this arbitrarily, and someone's explain to them

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what explained to Danny at least the
ranch sacking. Yeah, so it stems

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from when people get to this is
uh, this stems from I think Jake's

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dad, Danny, Jake Kim's father
Chappie, who who uh subtly like turned

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his home into like a shrine to
turquoise and like cowsols and leather, like

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anyone who moves to Arizona or New
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you ranchsack yourself, it's self ranch
sacking, right for sure. Maybe some

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art, some barb wired art,
perhaps maybe a cow skull with some turquoise

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and you start wearing bolo ties and
like the joke was someone misheard ransacking one

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time and they thought it was ranch
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should go around and prank people and
take all the crap off their walls and

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their tables out of their homes and
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So show you know, like,
yeah, change your whole house into

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a Southwestern theme. But damn it, you're right. We did ranch sack

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the whole world series Texas Arizona,
and everybody seems to be worried about the

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Texas Versus Arizona aspect that no one's
gonna watch. But I'll tell you what.

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Those are the two places that Mike
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his life adult life, probably taking
the most poops. Uh So, if

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you don't like Mike Soroy, then
you're not gonna like this world series.

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But if you don't like Mike Siroy, you don't like great radio. Yeah,

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he's the best radio personality in the
world. I can't get behind that.

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If you don't like this world series, that is true. I hadn't

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thought of my my ties. Yeah, this is the Serroy world series I

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didn't see in the world. In
the Dallas Observer, Vin Talk Kevin pass

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Out put it won't take long that
I met Mike Marshall and Kevin Turner in

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the very same instant at the very
same time. Yeah, yeah, remember

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that and fort Worth at the Cooper's
Barbecue or whatever. Davis Love the Third,

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Love the Third credit card his credit
card and that cash goes, we

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should take it back to him,
Okay. I was like, I think

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we should maybe buy some barbecue with
it. I mean, it's just here.

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Just they're not gonna like ask for
ID anymore, just use it and

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then take it back to it.
I mean to see a big enough name

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where like you take his card up
somewhere and they got the counters like,

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you're not this person in the shadow
of colonial Probably you couldn't think so like

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twenty years ago. Yeah, yeah, when was this twenty ten? So

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is it like that? Ye?
Now, look there both of you in

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my coaching tree, just succeeding.
You got a little Andy Reid's tree going.

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Don't you can I ask you because
you said Jesus the Mic Story coaching

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tree that was his first insurn.
Yeah I know. Yeah. Now everyone

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makes more money than me, make
more money, So I don't care so

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much about the paper where I do. I do look at the art,

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look at those frames. Does the
team have like an app that they use

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for I don't. I don't.
I mean two things I think. Okay,

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does Jason Kidd have a group text
with every member of the team only?

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And does anyone have to mute it
because somebody's Dwight Pole's making heady jokes

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that nobody else understands. And then
and is there an app that the whole

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league uses where like just as your
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I don't know, NBA slack,
Yeah, they they do. I don't

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know. I mean, I'm sure
every team has group text messages and they

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kick out the guy that creates a
green bubble on the text message that fits

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is not invited. Yeah, I'm
sure every team. It's mainly for like,

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hey, the bus is going to
be here at this time, but

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stuff like that. So and then
they do have an app. I forget

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what it's called, but like we
had to use it in Madrid in Abu

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Dhabi for like, hey, content
team, y'all are gonna leave with the

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players at this time. So it
was kind of like put in there in

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the calendar. Yeah, but there's
an app. There's an app for that

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for sure. Okay, how concerned
are you that we still well, we

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have injury questions with Luca and Kyrie
already. Yeah, I'd rather not start

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the season with injury questions if I
had an option, but they didn't ask

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me. Kyrie injury is not very
concerning to me. I think if it

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was, you know, game forty
of the season, he would have played

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those two preseason games. He probably
just had something that didn't feel quite right.

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So I'm not worried about him at
all. Very healthy guy, by

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the way, like just overall throughout
his career, so I'm not not super

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concerned about his physical state. The
Luca thing, you know, the calf

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is the latest thing, and I
don't know, I don't think he quite

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knows if it's a side effect of
the quad of the thigh. But the

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quad and thigh thing is going to
be there for a while and they're still

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kind of figuring out a treatment solution
for that long term and what that looks

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like, you know, next month, is it gone or is it going

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to be a thing the entire year
that he just has to kind of like

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learn how to play with. But
I mean, that's one of the things

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that makes him special is his start
stopability in the force that he can put

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on his lower body. With whether
it be a step back or just a

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deceleration in the lane, and that's
a lot on your hips, on your

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thighs, and so one has been
nagging him for a while and hopefully they

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get a solution. I mean,
his trainers from I don't know if it's

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a guy that was at Real Madrid, but the guys that work with him

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overseas when he's over there are coming
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a treatment plan and figure out how
to get this right. So they're obviously

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addressing it in the best way they
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it requires rest, you know,
I don't know if they know quite yet

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how to solve it long term besides
just shutting him down and doing something like

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that, which is not an option
at this point. If you can play

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through it, you play through it. So that's concerning. And if it

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does, you know, if the
calf heels, but then he's compensating in

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a different way on that same leg
or the opposing leg because the thigh feels

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weird, or he can't do the
same movement that he's accustomed to doing,

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then do you hurt something else?
But I don't know they're doing everything they

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can for it, and hopefully there's
a solve pretty soon. That isn't you

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know, get some rest, That
is, hey, do this kind of

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treatment and it'll be fine in this
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I guess both of them you've had
now a chance to I don't know.

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Yeah, I wouldn't say you're best
friends, but get to know Kyrie

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a little bit. And he is
popolarizing dude in the league for a long

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time. And I thought last year
we all kind of sort of fell in

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love with Kyrie. We're like,
this guy seems very smart and incredibly nice,

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and he's great on the mic and
all these things. So and then

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he signs a big old deal.
So I guess you're I don't I wouldn't

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call him first impressions, but your
current impressions of Kyrie. And then I

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guess part two is sort of about
Luca. You know, he's been around

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long enough and you've done a lot
of work with him, and I don't

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know, I suppose how Luca's head
is going into what you're Brillian. So,

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yeah, his first year was my
first year, so this is sixth

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season that he's going into and so
I'll start with Kyrie because I think I've

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spent more time with him and his
management agents or I don't know a manager

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agent, didn't really getting involved that
much, but his representation in him over

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the last month or two than any
player on the team. I genuinely really

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liked the guy after getting to know
him. He's funny in a way that

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isn't like, doesn't cut you down, doesn't like he's always kind of laughing

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at stuff. We had a fifteen
or twenty minute interview on media Day that'll

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drop this week on MAVs YouTube and
across MAVs channels. That's just me and

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him, like I'm just throwing,
you know, not fastballs, but stuff

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like hey, you know, explain
yourself. You know, here's a fresh

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start, like try and you know, build whatever image you want to build

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a Kyrie to this fan, here's
an open platform, here's the space to

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do that. And it was awesome. It was really really good. I

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mean, you're supposed to Elyn get
ten minutes at media Day with each player,

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as you will know, Mikey and
he was in our room for nineteen

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minutes just wanting to talk about the
things I was trying to ask him about

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and so extremely thoughtful, been great
to us here. You know, the

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stuff in the past, I don't. He alluded to it a little bit

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in the interview of you know,
there is this kyrie like cosplay or this

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kyrie like painted on image that a
lot of people have, and that's just

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either him from a different scenario or
what people want to put on him.

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And so I get it. I
mean being teammate of Lebron, Like the

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second you walk into the league and
you're supposed to be on this level and

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you're a global icon at you know, eighteen nineteen years old and you get

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the biggest shoe deal ever, and
it's just there's a lot. But whenever

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you like actually get to talk to
a person that has that much with him,

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I don't know if it's mystique,
I don't know what it is,

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but he's got this this layer of
like you don't feel like you could ever

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really know him know him. But
that went away really quick. He opened

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up very quickly and was like,
Hey, let's talk about all this stuff

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you want to ask, Let's dive
into these different issues. And he's just

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a really smart, really well spoken, kind thoughtful person and his management has

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changed over the last year. He's
getting different kind of guidance. He's on

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a different kind of path than I
think he was in Brooklyn or even prior

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to that. So I'm not going
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he's almost thirty, I'm not gonna
say he's gonna be completely different, changed

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person. But man if I didn't
know anything of that previous stuff that had

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been reported, right and it's not
first hand account, Like I would love

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the guy like from moment one,
just per no interactions with him have been

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spectacular, Like he's great. He
would show up to things in Madrid and

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in Abu Zabi that no other player
was at. He would just come and

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want to hang out and meet the
people within the organization and just sit there

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and talk to you and like go
to breakfast with you and bring his kids.

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He's got a I think he's got
a one year old, and his

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other two kids were there, and
he would just like bring his kids to

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breakfast and come sit next to you. So I really really like the guy.

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I hope he's super successful here,
and I hope he uh turns into

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a leader for the younger, younger
guys in the team, because every single

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one of them said like, it's
really weird having that guy on the team

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because that's who I looked up to, that's who I wanted to be in

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this game, and then he's sitting
there on the bench. And as far

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as Luca, I mean, I
think what everyone's kind of outline and filled

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in picture that they paint for themselves
of Luca is is kind of accurate.

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I mean, he's just a He's
a big kid. He loves to have

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fun with the game. He loves
to have fun during practice. Like if

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it's not bringing him joy, like
he will eliminate it, whether it's in

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his life or in his routines.
But he is obviously obsessed with the game,

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loves playing basketball, has some other
interests, but I mean that's kind

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of been his life for geez what
the last like twelve thirteen years. Is

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growing as a leader, I think
in the organization and I'm the roster in

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a way that is organic, right, It's not forced. It's not hey

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get up there and say something in
front of the team and do the raw

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ra stuff. Like they don't ask
him to do things like that because it

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wouldn't be genuine for him. But
I think they're his dynamic with Grant Williams

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has been fun to watch because Grant
is the always talking guy and not always

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like calling you out for anything if
you're slow to get back on defense,

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if you didn't make their I read
or something like So Grant's bringing something out

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of him that I think is really
it's really funny to watch during practice and

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throughout games and stuff like that.
But I mean, Lucas just one of

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the most talented human beings on earth
physically, and all players reach this point

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in their career in which it is
like, my effort level right now and

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how many hours time, whatever it
is I want to put into this thing

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can make me one of the best
in the league right now? Do I

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want to go psycho mode and commit
even more time or more you know,

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diet things, or more treatment,
or more off season or more studying to

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become the absolute best to eliminate any
question of am I the best in the

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league? And some people physically can't
do that. Some people can't do that

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discipline wise, some people can't do
that for a lot of reasons. They're

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just you know, you could practice
every hour of every day with a certain

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kind of you know, body type
or something that's not going to matter.

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But he has that. I think
everyone knows that, and that's why people

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are predicting him for MVPs this year. Predictan the MAVs have a big bounce

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back season. We'll see how big
that is. It's largely not even contingent

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on him at some point, Like
he's gonna do what he does and he's

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going to be the offensive engine.
It's is the defense around him good enough?

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Can they make enough threes whenever he
does kick the ball out? But

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I think what you see of Luca
is him like he is looser around the

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teammates, He is goofier around the
teammates. He does like talking about anything

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but himself more than he likes talking
about himself. So I feel like you

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don't get the best version of him
in like media scrums. But he's you

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know, he's a basketball savant that's
extremely, extremely talented in one of the

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most unique players that's ever played the
game. So people criticize are quick to

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criticize him for everything, and it's
like, Okay, would you rather have

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somebody else? Like what's the what
do you what's the what's the knock there?

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Like imagine the team without him.
Imagine a play that's seventy five percent

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of him. So Dirk went through
it obviously where he had to go like

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start change his routine and just look
inward and be like, hey, maybe

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everything I'm doing isn't the exact correct
thing. And I think he did a

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lot of that this offseason. And
regards to Luca, in regards to his

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body, he looks great. I'm
bummed you'll haven't got to see a lot

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of him tonight because of the calf. Yeah, tonight, hopefully, hopefully.

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I think I think I'll be fine. That I hy Am Machine.

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We need to stay on the watch
for any developments with the missile situation,

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so we gotta go. My guy, I've been been on this watch for

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ten years now and I'm just waiting
for somebody to send me an update on

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that email. Thank you for the
time machine. Will talk to you soon

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hopefully and see you soon and tomorrow. Thanks to do the whole am I,

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the guests, guest picking games.
We haven't m uh if you want

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to be yeah, if Marlin,
if Marlin's man falls through, expect to

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call. Okay, I'll be out
there ready alongside the missile situation. I'll

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be on call for both. All
right, there he goes. It's Mike.

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Let's go soon, he'll never know. Let's get tacos soon, brom

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