1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:11,480 This is the Art of Wrestling with professional wrestler Colt. Comeata All right, 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,679 Hi you doing, Come on in, Sit down, relax, You're about 3 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:19,920 to listen to the art of wrestling. A professional wrestling podcast. It's a 4 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,320 life podcast. It's a personal journal. It's an entreeway to the mind that 5 00:00:23,399 --> 00:00:26,800 solds the hearts and the lives of the people involved in the world of professional 6 00:00:26,839 --> 00:00:30,960 wrestling. I am your host. I am a whatnotter, I am a 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:36,479 podcaster, I'm a mental health advocate. Most importantly, though, I am 8 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:41,240 a pro wrestler. I swear I'm still a pro wrestler. And we are 9 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:47,880 coming to you live from my studio apartment in Chicago, Illinois. 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Everything's ad free Wrestling, anonymous pro wrestling Fringe, plus 20 00:01:30,599 --> 00:01:36,079 bonus wrestling, anonymous calls that I take with my friends. This month, 21 00:01:36,159 --> 00:01:40,319 two episodes with Hornswaggle, and a lot of great bonus stuff over on my 22 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:47,280 Patreon slash colt Cabana. Today's guest pretty Peter Avalon, and I am so 23 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,439 grateful to have Peter on my podcast. I said this to him privately, 24 00:01:51,599 --> 00:01:57,000 I will say it publicly. He is one of the most underrated and underappreciated 25 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:02,200 wrestlers on the scene to day. He's what you would call a wrestlers wrestler. 26 00:02:02,879 --> 00:02:07,719 Us the wrestlers in the back. We always love what Peter does, 27 00:02:07,959 --> 00:02:12,400 how he performs, and sometimes you know, it takes a classically trained pro 28 00:02:12,439 --> 00:02:16,680 wrestler to kind of understand the little things or the nuances, but we see 29 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:22,759 it and we appreciate it, and I appreciate Peter coming on the show. 30 00:02:23,719 --> 00:02:27,560 There's a couple of really key points or things that I'd like to point out 31 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,840 about this talk. So we did this podcast in August. We did it 32 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,199 in Cologne, Germany, when I went with a crew of wrestlers to promote 33 00:02:38,319 --> 00:02:40,840 AW Video Games. Actually, I'm gonna shout out the crew. It was 34 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:46,879 me Uno and Hellico, Peter, Chris Daniels, and referee Rick Knox, 35 00:02:47,319 --> 00:02:52,919 along with some like the business people of AW Games like THHQ and some the 36 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:59,560 AW marketing team, and well, a lot has happened since this podcast we 37 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:05,599 did in my life personally and professionally. Amazingly enough, at the start of 38 00:03:05,599 --> 00:03:08,719 the talk that I did with Peter, we kind of just started talking about 39 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:15,520 anxiety and mental health. And this episode was supposed to come out in early 40 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:20,879 September, and honestly, I just haven't been able to want to talk about 41 00:03:20,879 --> 00:03:27,360 anything, so I just kind of delayed everything and I told Peter and he 42 00:03:27,439 --> 00:03:31,199 was more than okay with it, obviously. And I didn't delay it because 43 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:36,599 the company that I worked for like told me not to talk about anything or 44 00:03:36,639 --> 00:03:38,960 what I could or could not do, just kind of where my brain was 45 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:44,560 at, you know. I started the podcast in two ten and we don't 46 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,680 go every week now, but I like to put out shows occasionally spot letting 47 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,719 my friends or people that I find super interesting. And from the beginning, 48 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,919 you know, I was so open, maybe even to a fault, about 49 00:03:58,039 --> 00:04:02,599 dealing with losing my dream job of THEWE or fighting to be an independent wrestler, 50 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:08,240 or how to make money in wrestling, or how to survive a lot 51 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,879 of things that I was very open about. And I knew I made fans 52 00:04:11,919 --> 00:04:15,279 for life, which is I assumed you people listening to the show right now 53 00:04:15,319 --> 00:04:21,000 because of my ability to be candid and real. And as I think about 54 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,040 it and as I did it, there was really two things that I just 55 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,959 kind of never touched. You know. It's a wall or a barrier, 56 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,680 or I'm good at compartmentalizing, which I know I am, but and I'm 57 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:38,639 not there yet, nor may I ever be. But a lot of you 58 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,519 probably notice I never really talked about significant others. I never really talked about 59 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:46,319 my relationships, which was kind of fun to hear people guess about my sexuality 60 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:51,800 over the years, or my lifestyle or how I conducted myself. But that 61 00:04:51,959 --> 00:04:56,759 side of life was just something I didn't want to talk about, nor do 62 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,839 I want to talk about, and maybe that's stuff to work on. And 63 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,480 the other one is well, you know, kind of what's been going on. 64 00:05:04,879 --> 00:05:09,800 I've been in the news, you know, whether it's now or for 65 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:14,800 the past whatever years it's been. I think the closest that you'll ever hear 66 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,399 me touch upon it was on an episode of the Art of Wrestling called The 67 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,639 Trial, which is where I documented all of my feelings while I was going 68 00:05:23,439 --> 00:05:29,439 through the trial in which the WWE doctors sued me in a court of law 69 00:05:29,519 --> 00:05:34,920 and lost. And so Peter talks about or brings up mental health and anxiety, 70 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,079 and looking back to the conversation with Peter, I noticed that I jumped 71 00:05:39,399 --> 00:05:45,199 right on it, and I feel that's desperation to connect with a wrestler on 72 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:51,000 a deeper level than ever before, especially at that time when I was feeling 73 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,160 a lot of feelings. I mean, I'm always feeling a lot of feelings, 74 00:05:54,199 --> 00:05:57,879 including now, but it was definitely prevalent at the time of this talk. 75 00:05:58,519 --> 00:06:00,839 And if you go back and you listen to the Trial episode, and 76 00:06:00,959 --> 00:06:05,959 I haven't, but I remember it very well, I recognized now the feelings 77 00:06:06,639 --> 00:06:13,040 that I had were the feelings of debilitating anxiety. At the time, I 78 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,759 said, it was like a sign that I was alive and I loved it 79 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,600 because I was feeling feelings that I had never felt befored and meant that I 80 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:23,199 was going through something and that's part of life. And I was feeling those 81 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:29,920 because the trial and everything was traumatic, more traumatic than anything I've ever been 82 00:06:29,959 --> 00:06:33,199 through, and I was in the eye of the hurricane. I was in 83 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:36,279 the middle of it. A couple of years ago, I seeked help. 84 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,959 I got help in many different ways. A while back, I started seeing 85 00:06:42,959 --> 00:06:47,360 a professional. Many of you have noted my silence publicly with all that's been 86 00:06:47,399 --> 00:06:56,199 going on with me, and that's because I'm working on myself privately, and 87 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,160 I'm not gonna say it's amazing or cured. It'll probably take years or decades. 88 00:07:00,639 --> 00:07:06,800 Maybe I'll never fully healed or understand what my head and heart and feelings 89 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:12,600 are going through. But like the great Cody Rhodes once said, do the 90 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,279 work. I'm doing the work, and I'm not here to bash anyone or 91 00:07:16,279 --> 00:07:20,360 take shots at anyone. And I've learned that there is no right or wrong. 92 00:07:21,319 --> 00:07:27,839 I can't control what I can't control. I'm trying to understand why I 93 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:33,399 do things that I do and how I can control my feelings and only my 94 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:40,360 feelings and try to become a better person. So I command Peter for talking 95 00:07:40,399 --> 00:07:44,079 with me about it. The whole thing isn't strictly about this, but it's 96 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,959 kind of the start of it. He didn't have to do it. I 97 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,079 appreciate his ability to be candid, and I appreciate you, the wrestling fan 98 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:56,720 who seem to understand. I mean, my Twitter has been a wild shit 99 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,639 show, and it's crazy how some people feel that their tweets towards you are 100 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,000 like an acceptable move in life, like you're allowed to do that. But 101 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,240 I've also been really good about not letting that affect me and also realizing that 102 00:08:11,319 --> 00:08:13,920 whoever is tweeting this there, you're not a real human being, Like I 103 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,920 guess you have a lot of work to do. And here's some good advice. 104 00:08:16,959 --> 00:08:22,079 If you ever have people going after you on Twitter, some more than 105 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,879 others, just go to that person's account and then look at their tweets and 106 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:33,159 you realize this is a them problem and not a you problem. So that 107 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,320 all goes into doing the work. And I don't know if that made any 108 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,360 clarity, but maybe you got a better idea of what I'm going through and 109 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,639 that I'm going through it, and also maybe when I'm at a convention, 110 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,679 you know, there's certain stuff you don't want to bring up. I think 111 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,639 I've said that forever. You know, I always love talking to people, 112 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,679 and I love talking wrestling, I love talking shop. But then once you 113 00:08:58,759 --> 00:09:03,240 bring up some stuff that has been traumatic for me over years, I shut 114 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:07,559 down. And then you read on a message board somewhere, how cool to 115 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:13,840 dick and again trying not to read that. But sometimes stuff takes over the 116 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,480 Internet, and then I mean, it's happening, It's happened, it will 117 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:24,600 continue to happen. Before all of this went down, you know, I 118 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,279 like a hustling businessman that I am. I was trying to set up my 119 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,840 future in case my contract didn't get rolled over. I had seen it almost 120 00:09:31,879 --> 00:09:35,799 happened to me before. And then, you know, I resigned a new 121 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,720 contract. But I was kind of unsure of my future, so I partnered 122 00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:43,080 with a company called Whatnot. And this is not an ad, This is 123 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,600 just something that I'm doing. The ads will come later. I'm assuming I'm 124 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,840 still going to have a job with my employer. But the great thing about 125 00:09:48,879 --> 00:09:54,080 AW is that we're allowed to work on ourselves and our businesses outside the company, 126 00:09:54,159 --> 00:09:58,120 so Pro Wrestling Teas and I are still doing Whatnot. I host it. 127 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:01,799 I bring some items on from my closet over the years, and then 128 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,039 PWT they also have so many things from the warehouse over the years. It's 129 00:10:05,039 --> 00:10:11,159 like kind of QVC meets eBay fast auction style shopping. And we're going to 130 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:16,120 do a live one from aew from the arena in Chicago in the building with 131 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:20,360 wrestlers selling their gear and exclusives. It's so much fun. Join us once 132 00:10:20,399 --> 00:10:24,240 a week. It's usually Wednesdays, sometimes it's Tuesdays if I end up going 133 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:30,679 to work on Wednesdays. It's on an app called Whatnot or Pwtlive dot com 134 00:10:30,879 --> 00:10:33,960 is a site that we may that will lead you to there. I wanted 135 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,399 to promote this Whatnot thing that we're doing. And I probably have so much 136 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,159 more to talk about, returning to Dynamite, doing the fringe, playing Fortnite 137 00:10:41,159 --> 00:10:46,279 with Kip on Twitch, all the fun stuff that I usually talk about before 138 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,679 the podcast, But we'll do that next week. I got an episode next 139 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:56,080 week coming to another Friend, another great talk, so stick around next week 140 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,840 for that one too. But I feel talking about my brain was enough for 141 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:03,720 you this week, and definitely enough for me. Before we get into the 142 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:07,799 talk with Peter, I do want to talk about sponsors this week, Manscaped 143 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:13,720 and the performance package four point oh. Manscaped is the leader in below the 144 00:11:13,759 --> 00:11:16,399 waste grooming, and they have asked me to say something about using the code 145 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:22,559 cult getting twenty percent off and free shipping when trimming your pumpkins, which I 146 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,559 guess can relate to both Halloween and Thanksgiving. But I'm going to stay away 147 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,399 from the ball humor. You get the idea. I definitely use Manscaped. 148 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,200 I've been man trimming ever since I got into wrestling. 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Just use my code 158 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,720 cult at manscaped dot com. That's twenty percent off and free shipping with the 159 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:18,600 code cult. Hit up manscaped dot com your balls. Well, thank you, 160 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,200 Hi. Let's talk about all your problems? All right? What are 161 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,799 you're in today? Have you been? Um? Have you been on all 162 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,919 this Britain? Okay, I'm here. Hello. We're in German first of 163 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,799 all, German rest first time? And have you been out of the country. 164 00:12:37,159 --> 00:12:39,720 Yeah, I'm into China. Yeah, and to China and Mexico. 165 00:12:39,799 --> 00:12:45,279 Those that's how the international has off going. What's your China Middle Kingdom Wrestling? 166 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,600 I was out there helping in produce the show and to produce the Battle 167 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,120 Royal that we had as the main event. It was me Zeta Zang Raylan. 168 00:12:56,159 --> 00:12:58,480 We were all out there together for about a week. Was this one 169 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,879 aid started and they went by China? I'm not sure it was not with 170 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,759 aw you just went separately. It was separately, Yeah, that he was 171 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,159 working with us through a championship rustling from Hollywood and then he was doing his 172 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,480 own separate thing. Okay. Yeah, it was pretty cool and then hold 173 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:16,120 on. So, so you went out to produce what to produce the show 174 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,559 and to produce a show or like they have a they have that's a name 175 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,840 I've heard of the Middle Kingdom. Yeah. Right, they've been trying to 176 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,159 make their their show in China. I think they were trying to do everything 177 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,720 monthly and it was just I guess my turn. They wanted me to help 178 00:13:28,919 --> 00:13:31,360 produce the show and try to you know, elevate it. Yeah, the 179 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:35,120 appearance of it like they did with Championship Rusting from Hollywood and and Championship Russ 180 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,519 of Arizona and you, and that's it. I'm a man, I'm the 181 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,200 man for your job. That was it. So it was nice. Did 182 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,360 you wrestle out there? I did. I also wrestled. I was featured 183 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:48,519 heavily in the Battle Royal. I came down to me and Zombie Dragon, 184 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,799 who's one of their main guys out there, and he beat me at the 185 00:13:50,879 --> 00:13:54,039 last two. You know, I especially for you as a Los Angeles person, 186 00:13:54,159 --> 00:14:00,360 you would think we had enough dragons. You'd think with Super and American. 187 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,639 I think that was a running joke for many years, right to the 188 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,399 point that there was a dragon Dragon in Chicara. Yeah, and uh, 189 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:09,039 we might as well add the zombie to it, might as well the dead 190 00:14:09,039 --> 00:14:13,320 one. And what was Mexico or you know, being friends with Rocky Romero 191 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:18,639 for so many years, you just learned that every Los Angeles wrestler that's good 192 00:14:18,759 --> 00:14:22,080 like wrestles in Mexico. Right, Yeah, it's nearby. Might as well? 193 00:14:22,279 --> 00:14:24,159 Is that a thing? So when you say Mexico, do you do 194 00:14:24,159 --> 00:14:30,000 you mean Tijuana Ja. That's one of time three hour drive maximum, I 195 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,080 think yeah. And then you work at the the TJ Arena down there, 196 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,480 it's Big Pact Arena, and uh it's me and Ray Ross against Yuma and 197 00:14:39,039 --> 00:14:41,960 at the time Johnny good Time. Now Kevin Martinson. So he has changed 198 00:14:41,039 --> 00:14:43,960 his name. Yep. Oh, so I didn't mean to out him. 199 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:50,360 I didn't know. If I don't keep up with the product. Well, 200 00:14:50,399 --> 00:14:52,559 good to have you here. It's been so we've been hanging out in Germany 201 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,360 being German goop balls. It's nice that like we just get sent here from 202 00:14:58,399 --> 00:15:01,480 a e W. Everything's kind of take can care of. I guess this 203 00:15:01,639 --> 00:15:03,919 is the better part of the job. Yeah, this has been my favorite 204 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,320 trip ever wrestling. Yeah, it's a good crew here. Yeah, it's 205 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,960 a great crew, good thing, and I want to touch on that thing. 206 00:15:11,039 --> 00:15:11,840 I'm going to edit this if you don't like it, though, But 207 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:16,639 you had talked about you've talked about that anxiety stuff. I don't know if 208 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:20,840 that was just for us or if that was for oh nah whatever. Yeah, 209 00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:24,440 yeah, you mentioned this morning and again, I you tell me if 210 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:26,240 you don't want anything in there, because that's how I run my show. 211 00:15:26,879 --> 00:15:30,320 That you were a little anxiety driven, and it's and I only bring that 212 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:35,440 up just because I think it's good to talk about because me berstally, when 213 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,759 you said that, I was like, oh what, you know, like 214 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,080 we're wrestlers, were out there, we're half naked, we're putting ourselves on 215 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,919 the line, and you were like, I got a little anxiety this morning. 216 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:48,720 Yeah, I could. I consider myself an introvert. I try to 217 00:15:48,759 --> 00:15:52,039 be extroverted a lot of stuff, but it's an introvert I end up, 218 00:15:52,039 --> 00:15:56,519 I kind of meet I will hit a threshold I guess of socialization. I 219 00:15:56,559 --> 00:16:00,200 guess sometimes and just being around just mass amounts of people and uh, doing 220 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,279 a lot of my own personal work over the over the past a few years, 221 00:16:04,399 --> 00:16:07,759 with like therapy and stuff like that, trying to I guess put a 222 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:12,039 put a term to stuff that I'm feeling, and it's like anxiety was a 223 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:17,600 big one of them. And uh, I am trying to also finally diagnosed 224 00:16:17,679 --> 00:16:22,840 ADHD, so I'm also I'm handling that I put my I'm on medication. 225 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,440 I was say I put myself on medication. I did not. I wrote 226 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,039 a script. Yeah, yeah exactly. Now I went to doctor and I'm 227 00:16:27,039 --> 00:16:33,799 on medication and everything now uh therapy and then uh healthy boundaries with with people 228 00:16:33,919 --> 00:16:37,879 and family and stuff like that and just leads to better mental health. Well, 229 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:44,279 I just I say, because we're wrestlers and we're out there and I'm 230 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:47,360 you know, and we could both talk about our things because you know I 231 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,080 have that too, and I'm I found myself and tell me what you think 232 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,519 about Like the I found myself a little like introverted getting into wrestling. And 233 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,919 then once when you're younger and you're starting wrestling, you're just like, you'll 234 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,240 do it for me personally, I'll do anything. Like it was the same. 235 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,440 I became very extroverted. And then now like years later, I'm reverting 236 00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:11,440 back to that same inch over. But when the when the light is on, 237 00:17:11,039 --> 00:17:15,359 I'll do anything, right. I'm a maniac, right, like you 238 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:19,039 put a spotlight on me. I there's something different about that too, because 239 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:22,240 like when you're in the ring up, you're surrounded by the imense amount of 240 00:17:22,279 --> 00:17:25,799 people there. They are watching you, but you're not having to like really 241 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:27,079 get to know each and every one of them. And then like when you 242 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,240 go into back into the back into the business setting, it's like, I 243 00:17:30,279 --> 00:17:33,920 guess the anxiety was also from having to meet a lot of new executives and 244 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,440 a lot of this and a lot of new stuff and just I guess all 245 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,759 the new amount of people that I'm having to meet and then also represent at 246 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:44,720 the same time, aw and all this it's just you know, a lot, 247 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,240 I guess when you because you've done a lot of extra work. And 248 00:17:48,599 --> 00:17:52,880 I so so lately I found myself under a lot of anxiety and so I 249 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,359 and I also have been, you know, seeking help for this. And 250 00:17:56,039 --> 00:18:00,119 I remember, because I've got this like shock of whatever it is through my 251 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:07,480 body that I I guess you learned that it's anxiety. But like I'm trying 252 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,079 to think of back to when I had that kind of anxiety, and it 253 00:18:10,279 --> 00:18:14,000 was when I would go to WWE and do extra work, right, So 254 00:18:14,279 --> 00:18:17,440 I got my question was like were you were you also in thats when you 255 00:18:17,519 --> 00:18:21,160 did that stuff? If by saying like meeting all these executives, because when 256 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,680 we're in our you know, we're trying to get a job in our young 257 00:18:22,799 --> 00:18:26,440 twenties or whatever it is, it's like those are all the like the undertaker 258 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:30,640 is the executive, right, Like everybody is the exact Like luckily you're in 259 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,319 a place now where you're friends with all the wrestlers, but because there's new 260 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,400 people, but then you're friends with nobody. It's so anxiety drive absolutely and 261 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,000 then like you're you're younger at that time, so so you don't really have 262 00:18:41,319 --> 00:18:44,000 you feel an anxiety, but you don't know how to manage it the right 263 00:18:44,079 --> 00:18:45,880 way. So you're just kind of panicking like, oh my god, don't 264 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,599 fuck it, and you're so. I for sure it was feeling that then, 265 00:18:48,839 --> 00:18:52,480 but I just didn't know how to manage it the best way. Now 266 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:56,119 it's like breathing techniques and grounding and blah blah blah. You know, yeah, 267 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,279 I just I just I don't know. I just it brought me back 268 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,960 to those days of just like how fucking crazy it was, and nobody And 269 00:19:06,079 --> 00:19:10,440 something I also I've realized is like nobody knows what you're going through, like 270 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,960 because someone else like said something to me and they were talking about like that 271 00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:15,799 kind of stuff for them, and I was like, oh, I had 272 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,960 no clue. The same case and poys, but like I'm a mess and 273 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,519 I feel the same with a lot of stuff out at hiding. I yes, 274 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,839 And I think that comes with just the job. You have to you 275 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,720 have to hide certain stuff because you can't you don't want people looking at you 276 00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:33,240 and thinking something, Yeah. I mean so I kind of comes with it, 277 00:19:33,319 --> 00:19:37,759 and I don't know. Yeah, um okay, So when when you 278 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,160 got into wrestling, were you a little scared little boy or were you? 279 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:47,440 Yeah? I was. I had a what's the word, like a helicopter 280 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:48,519 parents, overbearing parents, you know what I mean. So it's like I 281 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,880 was kind of kind of sheltered. I felt barry sheltered. I I went 282 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:53,640 out and I did stuff, I had friends, but it was a lot 283 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:59,599 of overbearing, overbearing and sheltered Barry sheltered. So then finally turn eighteen, 284 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,160 it's one of the things were like I'm gonna do whatever the hell I want 285 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,640 you know, Uh no, you can't join wrestling school when you're seventeen, 286 00:20:04,759 --> 00:20:07,880 and I'm eighteen, Like, well I'm gonna do it. So my eighteenth 287 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,920 birthday, I went in to join wrestling school and you know, tell me 288 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,759 about how not you're but like, what does that mean? So you're assume 289 00:20:15,799 --> 00:20:18,319 me from Los Angeles? I've yeah, born and raised in Los Angeles, 290 00:20:18,519 --> 00:20:21,599 and it was I commuted to school, to the wrestling school while I was 291 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,640 also full time at university, and they just they just thought I was wasting 292 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,160 my time. But it's wrestling. Really. That was I guess, my 293 00:20:29,279 --> 00:20:33,680 way to finally take over what is mine, you know what I mean. 294 00:20:33,759 --> 00:20:36,160 It's like instead of having someone else kind of guiding me, I was like, 295 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,160 I'm taking my own life into my hands. And and I mean better 296 00:20:40,279 --> 00:20:42,799 or for worse. I turned me into an outgoing, crazy adult man. 297 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,039 So where in La are you fling? I was born in Burbank. I 298 00:20:48,079 --> 00:20:52,200 grew up in Rancho Cucamonga, and then I lived back in Burbank now but 299 00:20:52,279 --> 00:20:56,960 k fab from Carson City, Nevada. Oh yes, you're from I was, 300 00:20:56,079 --> 00:20:59,839 yeah, I grew up in Rancho Cucamonga, the home of the Bucks. 301 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,839 Yeah, they were. I think we went to rival high schools. 302 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,279 They were Alta Loma High School graduates and I'm Los Olsos High School graduates. 303 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:08,039 I mean, I didn't think it was a real place until I met the 304 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,759 Bucks. And now all of a sudden, there's the Bucks, there's Cutler, 305 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,440 there's you there. It's like, wait, all these people are from 306 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,440 there. Who would have thought that Rachekukamuka, California as a wrestling town? 307 00:21:17,559 --> 00:21:19,480 Did you know about are you guys the same agesh Me and Nick Car? 308 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:25,039 Did you participate in their backyard wrestling? No? I don't. I think 309 00:21:25,079 --> 00:21:26,880 they weren't living in Rancho. Maybe at that time my parents wouldn't let you 310 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,200 know. They might have been in a high desert and my parents would not. 311 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,839 Yeah. Absolutely. Oh were you obsessed with wrestling? Once I learned 312 00:21:34,839 --> 00:21:40,519 about it in early elementary school, I immediately was obsessed with it. Yeah, 313 00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:45,279 I'm wondering why you didn't find this backyard group that was putting on like 314 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,000 look, I don't know, I don't know. Did you read their book 315 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,759 and did you like know there? I don't want to put your apother book, 316 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,359 but like, was that like a like was it like, was it. 317 00:21:53,599 --> 00:21:56,960 I don't. I think there was. It just their little bubble or 318 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,160 I think so. Yeah. But I also I think they were living in 319 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,680 the High Desert at the time Victorville. I don't know the difference. Victorville 320 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,440 is like an hour away from Kukamonga, so I think they might have moved 321 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,480 at the time, but I'm not one hundred percent sure. Okay, I 322 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,519 just met met a couple of friends in high school and when I had like 323 00:22:11,599 --> 00:22:12,480 Steve Austin shirts, and I was like, what is this? You know? 324 00:22:12,519 --> 00:22:15,119 And they started telling me and then I tried to watch and my folks 325 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,440 wouldn't let me watch it, and then uh, just flipping channels. I 326 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:23,519 think we were on like a vacation with some family friends and they had both 327 00:22:23,599 --> 00:22:26,200 they had some sons as well, and I would hang out with and we 328 00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:30,440 were flipping through channels and they came across Undertaker and Steve Auston fighting. I 329 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,359 said, hey, go back, and they laughed, were you like this 330 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,079 ship? And I said, yeah, let's turn it back. And I 331 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,720 watched Steve Austin and fight the Undertaker? Is that do you think? Is 332 00:22:37,759 --> 00:22:41,519 that religious? Or like your parents being like you can't watch wrestling. I 333 00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:45,279 don't know what it is. Like my mom as a kid was around it 334 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,960 with like her father and and and her family because they went to the Grand 335 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,799 Olympic. She remember she brought up the Destroyer to me like that and all 336 00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:56,599 the I love when older people bring up random like yeah, like in Chicago, 337 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:02,519 it's like I used to watch Go, used to watch Moose no exactly 338 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,240 that. I was like, oh shit, you know, but I don't 339 00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:07,519 know where the disconnect eventually was. My my dad grew up watching Luca Libre 340 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,640 and then he told me when he found out it was fake, it like 341 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:14,880 made him so angry and I'm sorry, I'm sorry. What what what? 342 00:23:15,559 --> 00:23:18,319 Huh what? It's what? It's what? It's what. I didn't hear. 343 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,359 You are both of your parents has fan just my dad Okay, yeah, 344 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:27,839 my mom's a white lady. Uh. And did your dad come from 345 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,279 Mexico? He came from Cuba? Oh shit, yeah, okay, from 346 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,839 about like during the Wars. He came in the seventies when they were letting 347 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,960 when Castor was letting people go, so him, my aunt Molly, and 348 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,839 my grandmother and my great grandmother, they all left with just the clothes on 349 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,759 their backs and came over here and then eventually ended up in California where my 350 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,039 grandmother, single mom from Cuba, was raising two children and helping with her 351 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,640 her mother to live in California. How did they turn it around? Just 352 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:03,440 hustling, hustling that my my my dad and my my aunt would work work 353 00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:06,319 from a young age to help help bring home stuff. My dad was telling 354 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,599 him all he's stories that he had as like a server at like the Bottom 355 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,039 Venture in downtown LA and stuff like that, and just how much hustling they 356 00:24:12,039 --> 00:24:17,119 would have to do. And then he eventually got himself into real estate and 357 00:24:17,599 --> 00:24:21,119 he became real good at real estate, and he was able to become a 358 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,240 very successful successful man. He owns properties. Yeah, he has a family, 359 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,640 you know, his wife and me a son, and I have a 360 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,519 sister m He now lived own a property into Mecca and there you could take 361 00:24:32,599 --> 00:24:36,000 very good care of themselves. He's really an American story, the American dream, 362 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,359 American dream, American story. Have you ever been back to Cuba? 363 00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:41,799 They have? I have not, are you? I don't know. My 364 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,200 ignorance is very high. But like we weren't allowed to go to Cuba for 365 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:45,960 a while. No, I don't know if we're still all. I don't 366 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,039 know if we're not allowed to either. I think he just still thought got 367 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,759 to go about it a certain way to get there. I also was like 368 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,839 when I was young, they I wasn't. They didn't have really have me 369 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,279 learned Spanish either. It was just like no everything. They didn't really want 370 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:03,359 to be be very cuban. Um and you don't know Spanish. I don't 371 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,160 know span. I now I know a lot better. I can understand it, 372 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,160 but speaking it is still difficult. Have you gone like in your older 373 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,839 years, have you gone and asked like the exact reason or uh, like 374 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,359 my grandmother has passed away, my great grandmother's passed away, uh, and 375 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,519 just whatever little vague explanation I've been to get able to get from my dad. 376 00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:22,680 But it's just more now he's like, no, go go learn I 377 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,240 I what the fuck? Like? Go whoops? So yeah, whoops? 378 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:30,759 My bad? Okay, So they love you there. Maybe there's probably something. 379 00:25:30,079 --> 00:25:33,400 There's there's something Cuban in there, I think so. I think it's 380 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,240 the they're holding on to you for eight seventeen point five. The options I 381 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,920 was given of a job career was like medicine, an attorney, you know, 382 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,160 or something business where you can make a lot. Less matter Jewish parents. 383 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,839 All right, so you you're eighteen. I did the same thing. 384 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,000 I said, Mom, I'm eighteen, I'm a grown up. I can 385 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,039 make my own descent. I'm going to wrestling school. She wanted me to 386 00:25:57,079 --> 00:26:00,160 go to college, and I did have to. But then I also went 387 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,000 to wresting school because I'm eighteen. Yeah, fine, I'll go to college. 388 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,720 But I'm a grown up. You can't tell me what to do. 389 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:07,599 But okay, you can also tell me what to do as long as you 390 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,200 let me go to wrestling school for my college. Okay, who do you 391 00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:15,440 find? Who do you find? And how do you find? Oh? 392 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:18,759 Okay, So I am I think at the time, I'm still seventeen. 393 00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:22,720 I'm not eighteen yet, and I'm at a I have this little job, 394 00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:25,599 my first job ever, at a at the mall, the Victoria Gardens, 395 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,599 And it's a little little kiosk outside that sell in their courtyard that sells T 396 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,279 shirts and it was your Skin Industries. Those a god awful bro T shirts 397 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,359 like the naked women and it's just so cringe bullshit. I sold all this 398 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:44,480 Inland Empire dog shit clothes. And then slow day I had the computer and 399 00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:47,960 I'm just on the Internet. I went on world famous socalen censor dot com 400 00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:52,319 and found Charles Mercury had posted something on the most message boards about wrestling school 401 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:56,039 in Anaheim. So when I turned eighteen, I went down there. Now, 402 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,599 were you a person that was going to sokael like every day? I 403 00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:04,160 was, Oh, so consensu. I never posted, So I was never 404 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,720 a board guy that posted, but I did. I would go to it 405 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,559 because I wanted to no events. I wanted to look up events, and 406 00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:11,920 then I also wanted to see, so you were you were going to indies 407 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,200 too? I started I was at this point going to indie's. My very 408 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:18,799 first show i'd gone to was PWG in Rosita, and then I went to 409 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:22,240 a couple more, and then I started going to uh E WF nearby Jesse 410 00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:26,839 Hernandez's. I went to a couple of Aws Spark Kapitski shows where I saw 411 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,519 Adam Pierce beat the shit out of a little cholo with the Induba title. 412 00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:34,039 You could have put anybody in that, anybody, anybody. Yeah, And 413 00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:38,319 I'll never forget that show because I don't know what it was, but Pierce, 414 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,599 he spat, he spat this loogie and it ended up right on my 415 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:47,359 friend Google's and I lost my mind because I saw he was He's this white 416 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,400 guy said the real pasty skin and his face just got red as a tomato. 417 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,279 And I'm just best show. And Pierce could not give a five up. 418 00:27:57,039 --> 00:28:00,799 Yeah, it was seen him beat up many audience members. Yes, 419 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,880 it was just nothing to laugh about it, right, I'm all was laughing 420 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,920 out of sadness. Yes, I feel he's changed his ways, but who 421 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,960 really knows at this point. I love at him one of our favorites, 422 00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:14,279 of course. Okay, yeah, because I don't know. I'm always curious. 423 00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:15,559 It's just like for me, it was a little bit of like oh 424 00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:19,400 the first like they say, do your research, but I'm just like a 425 00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:22,119 wrestling school near me, I gotta go. I did. I did do 426 00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:26,359 my research. EWF was too too much money for what I had at the 427 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,680 time. I was, you know, just that little job. And then 428 00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:33,359 uh, I don't know if you was PW might have been gone, and 429 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,920 then I don't know if there was any I don't think I found. Some 430 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,519 of the others that I found were too too far and in other states, 431 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:45,119 and then just Charles Mercury was running his academy up in junction with other academies, 432 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,119 so it was like you pay. It was sixty bucks a month and 433 00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:48,960 I could go to any one of these classes. The only trainer I knew 434 00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:52,119 of though, was Charles because he was on PWG and he was doing all 435 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,640 the stuff around in the area, so I did kind of do my research. 436 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:02,240 He also had Scorpio Sky and at the time Ronan and Mister Excitement, 437 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,119 and then uh, he would have a couple of others. I would come 438 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,319 through, like Scott Lost and Chris Hero was there my first day. Cannas 439 00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:11,720 Lerey taught me my roles. Yeah, it was great. The young Bucks 440 00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:15,279 came through a couple of times and like like rerolled around together. So he 441 00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:18,319 had schools at different places. He had just the one school in Anaheim, 442 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,640 but it was a part of another It was a part of a jiu jitsu 443 00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:23,480 gym that also had other wrestling schools that ran out of it. And it 444 00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:27,119 wasn't his ring. It was Food Dogs Ring, Rest in Peace, Okay, 445 00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:30,440 Yeah, it was just it was a local guy in the area and 446 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,079 Chris Hero was at your first day of wrestling training. He was at my 447 00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:36,599 first day of wrestling training and I was like, oh, this is cool, 448 00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:40,720 but I couldn't learn anything from him again because I don't know anything. 449 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,559 And Cannas Larey blessed her heart, was very sweet to us. And you 450 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,319 know, she took me and my friend Googles, who was training with me 451 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,319 at the time, took us away from the other students, showed us our 452 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,160 roles, and then threw us back in with the other students. Right, 453 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,240 have you ever told hero of that story? H Like, there's I mean, 454 00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:59,359 there's no way he remember. I don't think you'd remember. I haven't. 455 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,559 I don't have see I haven't run into him a long time. I 456 00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:03,960 don't talk to that man. I'm tell him when I see him next. 457 00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:07,480 Yeah, I was very upset that he didn't teach me. He was great 458 00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:08,480 man. He was he was great and having a lot of nice things to 459 00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:11,799 say, and he did help us, like with tweak our roles and stuff 460 00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:15,279 like that to fix him. So that was really cool. So Charles Murkley 461 00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:18,000 was your number one. But but there is something, I mean, I 462 00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:22,440 think PWG speaks for it, and there's this like there is like a family. 463 00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:29,079 Well, I don't know. I feel in Chicago everyone was fighting, 464 00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:30,880 uh you know, like don't go to this place, don't go to this 465 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,920 place, don't go to this place. But but but knowing that PWG started 466 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,599 with the six and you just saying that everyone would just kind of come in, 467 00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:41,279 it does seem like everyone was kind of like trying to help each There 468 00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:45,400 was a lot of people that did want that camaraderie because it's like why why 469 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,480 have this weird tension. A lot of schools did kind of have that energy, 470 00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:52,559 and there's still schools that do that are currently still having that energy where 471 00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:55,279 it's like, you know, gang gang kind of shit and it's uh, 472 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,799 it's corny, so corny bro. Yeah, but it's nice that you could 473 00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:03,880 have all of these people, did you would you recognize them because you would 474 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,200 go to local shows or the other wrestlers or yeah, like the yeah you 475 00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:10,440 know mister excitement. I mean if you don't know who he is, you 476 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,960 don't know who I knew all who all these guys, Yeah, all these 477 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,799 guys. I had a I had old old stuff, old footage too, 478 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,279 Like, uh, I went back and watched a lot of old like Rev 479 00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:21,720 Bro and stuff in the area, and I just I knew all who all 480 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,680 these guys were. It was great. So Top Talwar was kind of So 481 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,279 when I get released from the WWE in two thousand and nine, Dave Marquez 482 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:36,960 is starting up, uh, this new Adventure Championship Wrestling from Hollywood in what 483 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,079 was the beautiful arena, the Galaxy, the Galaxy Galaxy, which I think 484 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,920 up W used to run. Think so it's called the Observatory right now, 485 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:49,920 I think. Okay, Dave Meltzers, yeah, uh And so you and 486 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,599 I wrestle yep, yeah, and we I think maybe even the first match 487 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,319 we were We were the very first match of the entire program's existence. Yeah, 488 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,119 yeah, were with us? And where? And I mean I know 489 00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:05,759 you, I just remember you were I don't know green, you were a 490 00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:08,160 good ver, yeah, but you were young but good enough that like, 491 00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:13,759 I don't know, I feel like Dave, you know you had you couldn't 492 00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:15,599 be fresh out of wrestling school and doing that position, right, And then 493 00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:21,200 I remember Adam praising you, Um, but where were you at your career 494 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,200 in that point? It was twenty it was twenty ten when I think August 495 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:30,119 twenty ten when the show started. I had my debut technically is November two 496 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,559 thousand and um an eight. But I had like a single match and then 497 00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:37,519 I didn't have another match until like April two thousand and nine, so I 498 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,799 was like pretty much a rookie and a half. Okay, yeah, well 499 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,839 but but when you got that second match, then did you start putting? 500 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,599 Yes? Then I was consistent. I was consistently getting booked. I had 501 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,240 two, three, four or five and six followed pretty soon. You know 502 00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:51,759 what I mean? How does that? How does that work? On the 503 00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:54,119 scene like that? How do you I was This is when I started splitting 504 00:32:54,119 --> 00:33:01,279 myself between schools. When I came I had gotten December two thousand and seven, 505 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,359 June to December was I was training at the end of that. In 506 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,000 December, I broke my arm and I was out for eight months because I 507 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,920 also had surgery to put a plate in my arm and take the plate out. 508 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,720 When I came back to finally be able to roll around again, Charles 509 00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:17,839 School's gone, so I went to Aws School and EWF School and I was 510 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,519 just drive back and forth so I can get multiple days of training at once 511 00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:24,119 Barts twice a week, and then Jesse's once or twice a week, and 512 00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:28,920 then I just started excelling from there. And they're the promoters also yes, 513 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,759 and then I had a spot opened up on a San Berdandino show in November 514 00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:34,480 and they're like, hey, you want to wrestle, you have your stuff, 515 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,000 And I did have my stuff. I called up I called up Sky 516 00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:39,079 and put in a few of the other trainers and I had to see if 517 00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:42,200 I can get their blessing, and they said yes. I called Bart. 518 00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:43,839 I was like, hey, I know I've been training at your thing. 519 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,079 We'd say I debut there. It's a cool if I do it here, 520 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,039 go ahead, do your thing. And then I think my second third match 521 00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:52,279 were at with AWS. And then my sixth match ever I won the lightweight 522 00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:58,240 belt. I beat T J. Perkins. Yes, okay, and then 523 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,759 I mean, listen, aw he was obvious, Like the idea of like 524 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:07,000 starting up and getting it is obviously I'm going to assume the highlight of like 525 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,440 yes, right, yes, absolutely, but yes, but what were what 526 00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:15,679 were some of those milestones like how did you look at the t NA thing, 527 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,519 How did you look at like like when what were the big big things 528 00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:24,320 where you were like, oh this was this is a this was the next 529 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:30,400 step in my career. Uh, I've always wanted to be a TV wrestler, 530 00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:32,840 so uh, our our match was was a big deal for me because 531 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,679 I got to wrestle you and then I got to also take that was aw 532 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,960 Hollywood. Yes, yeah, so these are the milestones you just want. 533 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,320 Aw no, no, no no, I wanted before. Oh yo, 534 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,559 like yeah that, but I was like, we wrestled because you and I 535 00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:47,320 wrestled an aw it's probably my favorite AW match. I don't know. That 536 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,920 was so much fun. But that the our first match Chapionship Wrestling from Hollywood. 537 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,400 It was a big deal for me because like your Colcabana, I was 538 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,559 nothing and at the you know, at the fucking time. So I was 539 00:34:55,559 --> 00:35:00,360 like given that opportunity to wrestle a star in my first ever television match, 540 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,679 and like that was a big milestone for me. And then Impact was a 541 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,920 big one for me, even though it was a big one for me too 542 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,280 because I was also in awful mental health and in the worst physical shape of 543 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,079 my life. But it got me a job, which is odd to me, 544 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,480 you know, like to be absolutely the skinniest and in my end just 545 00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:20,559 unhappy and depressed and I got a job, so I was like, all 546 00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:22,480 right, let's do this and that was good. That was that was? 547 00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:25,639 That felt good? Uh? And what was it? Was like Furnam nor 548 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:31,599 Fernam and I just wrestled EC three a bunch and then the Romans once and 549 00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:37,800 then what was the story then? And I think it was EC three was 550 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,840 he was a Dixie Carter's nephew and they were gonna hype him in his debut 551 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,880 against like a superstar athlete or whatever, and then here comes my little scritty 552 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,199 ass out. But how did you? Why are you the one? Were 553 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,800 they in LA So they were coming out that way and they hit up a 554 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,920 wrestler in the area who started, uh, you started asking around, just 555 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,440 find somebody in the p that he was suggesting. He suggested Kevin Martinson. 556 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,320 He suggested, I think Yuma, Johnny Yuma. And they're like, like, 557 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,360 too, they look too much like wrestlers. We need a guy who 558 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,880 doesn't look like a wrestler. So they suggested it's good old skinny boy pretty 559 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,599 Pete and they said that's it. Yeah. But at that point, you 560 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,360 I feel you were doing had you done PWG at them? Yes? Yeah, 561 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,920 so like yes, you're accomplished wrestler, Yes, I do. I'd 562 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,280 also shrunk physically, like in the middle of my career, got even skinnier 563 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,880 than when I debuted and then I like came back and it's just it was, 564 00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:30,519 it was just a weird time in my life. Yeah, okay, 565 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,039 Yeah, Well, what you didn't say doing a PWG show in your milestones 566 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,559 P TOWG, I'm gonna call you, I don't know p to BG even 567 00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:40,239 as a milestone. It absolutely, but it's it's kind of it got very 568 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:45,840 bittersweet towards the end, kind of disappointing, um, because we we had 569 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:46,920 a lot of moment We had momentum going in and I think we had a 570 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,760 lot of good matches, um, But a lot of people didn't give the 571 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,360 same respect to the SOCO guys on those shows that they did to all these 572 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,559 other fucking guys. Yeah. Yeah, including like and behind the scenes, 573 00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:01,039 there's a lot of just you know, guys kind of trying to punk us 574 00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:05,320 and all that kind of shit. Super Dragon was kind of a dick too 575 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,760 when it came to a lot of us, and it's just like, yeah, 576 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,719 it is what it is. Yeah, Well, I mean but and 577 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,159 well I see your feelings now, and I shouldn't have asked, but I 578 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,239 have no ill will I think, I mean to think, I think are 579 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,480 cool. I've I've tried to I've reached out to him, you know, 580 00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:22,599 but it is what it is. Yeah, But I would imagine if you're 581 00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:25,920 a young especially in that error, well yeah, no, if you're a 582 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,239 young LA wrestler, Yeah, it's the mecca. I would say at the 583 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,679 time, I don't know about now. Well, but I honestly don't. 584 00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:35,639 I don't know anything about wrestling now either. I don't know the perspective of 585 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,039 certain indie wrestling like I know that I think it still exists because some guys 586 00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:42,760 that debut and haven't been there that long or like stoked about it. Yeah, 587 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,000 so I guess good for you. Yeah. And then did you do 588 00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:51,840 WW stuff or just the enhancement stuff. I did enhancement stuff, and I 589 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:57,199 had a tryout in front of producers at I think it was an Arizona one 590 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,960 that I was an extra at, and they lay loved it, and I 591 00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:05,280 was kept in mind for a job on two or five Live. And then 592 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,400 I got contract here yeah here in Germany added in Germany, yeah, aw, 593 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,840 yeah, And then any other like any other things that like when I 594 00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:17,800 say about milestones that pop up before you get that contract with AW, there's 595 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,920 a lot of TV stuff. China was a big one. And then becoming 596 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:28,760 uh either writer and headed charge at a Championship Press of Arizona, so having 597 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,320 like being in charge of an entire new show. It was a regional broadcast 598 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:36,559 to Arizona, just in with Aaron Phoenix, who Son and Yuma and just 599 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:37,760 to come in there. It was only three years old too. We came 600 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,800 in and we really we changed the scene. The first year of the show 601 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:47,159 was very difficult. So this Marquees had had a hand. Did he did 602 00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:52,960 he take over something that was three years old? Soo Marquees uh with Championship 603 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,039 Wrestling from Hollywood. He had then started becoming this United Wrestling thing where he 604 00:38:57,159 --> 00:39:01,679 was trying to start up different cast programs across the country and it's all become 605 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,480 like one big unit, one big loop, you know. Yeah, the 606 00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:08,719 United Wrestling in Memphis and LA and then Phoenix and uh the Arizona broadcast was 607 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,920 really the test for it. So we had this this promoter that we worked 608 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,079 with in Tucson and we ran out of the Desert Diamond Casino for about a 609 00:39:16,199 --> 00:39:20,519 year with this show, with this TV show, and then we moved to 610 00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:22,679 Phoenix in the last two years because we lost the relationship with the casino and 611 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:28,119 that promoter. So that's why me and my partner Mick Greenwood, we took 612 00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:31,920 over in charge of Arizona and we turned it around just you. That was 613 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,280 me and Mick green Mick Greenwood, Yeah, yeah, so the US too. 614 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,039 So we because I remember when Dave and the Championship Wrestling from Hollywood Crew, 615 00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:42,480 only because I was part of it for so long, like they would 616 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,639 start like taking the bus over the Arizona that so the very first show Marquez 617 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,719 went and then after that he never went. It was just me and Mick 618 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,079 ran the entire show. Uh. Mick would set up a lot of the 619 00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:54,920 stuff with the with the building, the Nile Theater, and I would set 620 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,599 up a lot of the stuff with the with the wrestlers, and we would 621 00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:00,400 write. We wrote the stories to Geather and we made this the entire show 622 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:05,519 happen just the two of us. Did this happen on purpose or did you 623 00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:08,639 seek this out? I don't on purpose or did you seek it out? 624 00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:12,719 It kind of it kind of fell on my lap. I've always been interested 625 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,159 in stuff, and I was already kind of producing at the Championship Russell from 626 00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:17,519 Hollywood Show, and then when the opportunity came up, David asked me, 627 00:40:17,639 --> 00:40:21,480 would you like to for you and Mick to be in charge? I say, 628 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,079 absolutely, let's do it. Is it an overtaken did you find was 629 00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:28,039 it overwhelming? It was at first. This is the reason why I do 630 00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:30,039 none of Like people are just like, do you want to produce? Well, 631 00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,840 I do produce for a w when I'm there, but or not for 632 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,960 Ring about Her. But like you know, people are like, do you 633 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,599 want a book? Would you want to promote? And it's just like, 634 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,760 like, I get paid nice money to wrestle. It's ten minutes, Like 635 00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:45,119 I it seems so hard to just overtake all of this stuff. I wanted 636 00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:50,320 to. I just I guess I wanted to have an over a complete resume. 637 00:40:50,559 --> 00:40:52,320 I want to know. It's like when people say I Could'm all in 638 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,559 compass you, I could do it all. I wanted to be not bullshit 639 00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:55,719 about it. I wanted it's like, oh, I've written, I promoted, 640 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,159 I've done this, I've done this, I've done this and it just 641 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,320 was a lot of fun. It was stressful, it don't get me wrong, 642 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,679 but it was a lot of fun. And I really believe that we 643 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:07,440 changed that the Phoenix scene like for the better. It got to the point 644 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,519 where the show would put itself together. We would pull up sometimes like an 645 00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:14,960 half hour late, and the entire ring crew is there setting up the ring, 646 00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:17,639 the doors wide open, and like the show is put together already because 647 00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:21,920 of like the relationship we built with everybody in the area. So it's like 648 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,840 it started becoming not stressful at all. It was it was like a walk 649 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,960 in the park. We all looked forward to going every month in this van 650 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:34,559 of Pylon's van to drive to Phoenix, just like a crew. It's five 651 00:41:34,679 --> 00:41:37,239 or six eight hours, eight hours, yeah, but it being it flew 652 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,239 by because we had the boys and it was a lot of fun. Yeah. 653 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:43,400 And saw you said, you saw the crew like grow wrestlers right immensely. 654 00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:46,000 Yeah. Man, everybody really got a hang of what it was to 655 00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:50,440 be a TV wrestler. And I noticed that big time when we did the 656 00:41:50,519 --> 00:41:54,559 extra work at the Phoenix WWE event, because all the other extras were my 657 00:41:54,719 --> 00:42:00,239 guys from from from the Arizona show except for two of them, and then 658 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,239 those two ended up being paired to do a match and the match was But 659 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:07,000 then all my guys in there had hell of TV matches that even the producers 660 00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:08,320 were like looking at him, like, good job, good job. And 661 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,719 of course I'm patting myself on the fucking back because me and Mick turned them 662 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,239 into TV wrestlers. You know, do you think do you think about schools 663 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,039 and that kind of stuff, like in your future? I had a school 664 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,519 I was. I guess that's another one, another another milestone moment because it 665 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,280 I got to train David Arquette from from the school hit Why are you not 666 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,360 telling me that? Yeah? That's the fucking It was awesome. This podcast 667 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,800 is old. Shout out to David. It was. I ran the United 668 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,079 Russells Center in Oxnard, and I would have classes twice a week. I 669 00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:43,800 had just an a bunch of people come through, and but then I would 670 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:49,440 start just taking private, private lessons. H David Laghana suggested me to David 671 00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:52,559 Arquette about training. He called me, left me a voicemail. I'll called 672 00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:53,880 them back when he set it up, and he ultimately he bought a ring 673 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,880 put it in his yard and I trained him at his house. Yeah, 674 00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:00,519 I mean, take that's so interesting. I don't know if there's like any 675 00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:05,679 more details of like was he just explaining Hey, I mean I guess he's 676 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,480 done enough interviews, right. Oh it was about his Uh it was this 677 00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:09,599 movie and everything he was trying to talk. He told me about what he 678 00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:13,440 had in mind and what he wants to do, and I said, yeah, 679 00:43:13,519 --> 00:43:15,719 let's do it. Did he have fun stuff that you were just like, 680 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,840 you can't do that or I don't you know. He was very respectful. 681 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:25,880 So he's respectful and he's cool, like he's funny, and he's he's 682 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,039 oddly athletic, like I don't know what. Like everyone was like is he 683 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,599 It was like, yes, yes, he's very oddly athletic. Like it 684 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,079 was awesome. It was a lot of fun. Did you guys ever end 685 00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:40,679 up wrestling? We did. We had we headlined a Championship Wrestling from Hollywood 686 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,760 show at the Urbine Improv. We sold it, sold it out. It 687 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,320 was a very I think, our very first show there. So I've had 688 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:51,400 line the Improv. But he his first match was RJ right on our broadcast 689 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,840 when we filmed it. An Ox start his match with first match on our 690 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,599 show? Was I just meant his first match in general or was it or 691 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,880 was it in I think it was J. I think it was r J. 692 00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:02,000 I think like I think like when they announced like David's wrestling, Yeah, 693 00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:05,599 I think it was would he come down and train with you guys or 694 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,199 are J? Yeah? I think what I mean, you know, like 695 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,119 to put this match to get right right? I think as we got closer 696 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,079 he came out here. I think we I don't remember. I think like 697 00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:17,559 the day of we did most of that stuff and we might have had a 698 00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:21,639 rehearse. I don't remember. And then so that makes me think of like 699 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:27,840 benefits of a Los Angeles wrestler in the entertainment industry. Yeah, um, 700 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,679 did you do family feud? I did? Yeah, So like and if 701 00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:35,079 it's just family feud, but I don't know if there's other There has to 702 00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:40,840 be so many because it's Hollywood. Yeah, and they're always asking like roles 703 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,199 of a wrestler, yeah, or just weirder opportunities that people wouldn't get. 704 00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:49,440 I don't know, if you have a list, did some extra work, 705 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,880 I've done some stunt work. I met David Arquette on a set of of 706 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,360 a film before I actually trained him. Um, anything, I wouldn't know. 707 00:44:58,119 --> 00:45:00,000 No, I never got completed. It's called Hank and the San Diego 708 00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:05,280 Twins and it never got fucking completed. Um. And then I was I 709 00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:07,840 joined the stunt crew for a little bit and we did a couple of movies. 710 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,920 It was one called I think it was called Pandemic and it was like 711 00:45:10,039 --> 00:45:15,320 first person zombie movie and like in in the trailer, I'm strapped to an 712 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:20,440 ambulance as a zombie just going. Uh. So that was cool. I 713 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,920 got to do. I got to fall off roofs with like a GoPro on 714 00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:25,119 my head and I got a shot with a shotgun. So squibs were popping 715 00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:30,280 off of me and getting thrown over cars and everyone thought I had been a 716 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,039 stuntman for years. I was like, this is my first day. It 717 00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:37,480 was easy and they're like what yeah. Yeah. And then to what was 718 00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:39,840 family? Few just uh, David's family. That was our family, and 719 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,280 it was just it was four wrestlers. It was me, RJ. Dalton, 720 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,400 Castle and Jungle Boy and then David and then we were against p Pee 721 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:51,199 wee Hermann's team. It was all people from that had been on involved in 722 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,760 his show for a long time, like Jack Harry was there, Drew Carey 723 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:59,639 jokes, Joe mag Magne, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Well any 724 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,679 even the idea of like we were talking before before, is that Tom Kenny 725 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,679 SpongeBob as announced your matt, you know, like even luchavavoom is I would 726 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,840 put in consideration of like this is a holly. I was gonna also say 727 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,440 that's another milestone too, because I got a job at Vavoom in the same 728 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,360 time I got a job at Tena because of how shitty I looked at the 729 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,840 matt. I did a match at Bavoom. I love avoom so much where 730 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,440 they they teamed me with Candice Larraine. She was like she was my little 731 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:28,039 girlfriend on the beach and on the on the card in the back it called 732 00:46:28,119 --> 00:46:30,280 me the ninety pound Weekling, So I was the ninety pound weekly to come 733 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:35,920 out with my little little blonde girlfriend. And then it was Cha Chay Caribrera 734 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,360 and SoCal under a mask and he came out all big and he was called 735 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:43,960 monta Quia mask or something like they know, butterface. And then he comes 736 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,280 over and he starts like kick sand in my face, starts flirting with my 737 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,320 girlfriend. Then his big old chingo and a girlfriend comes up. It's pointing 738 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,360 out, I'm what are you doing? Flirting? Flirting, flirting, and 739 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,519 then it turns into an inter gender mixed tag match, and then the finish 740 00:46:55,599 --> 00:47:00,039 of the match was my girlfriend turns on me to go joined up with Montequia 741 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:05,440 and then uh, we turned around and me and the big thick girl beat 742 00:47:05,519 --> 00:47:08,119 them up and then we go leave together. And that got you kind of 743 00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:10,000 a spot and it was a lot of fun. Yeah, I got it, 744 00:47:10,039 --> 00:47:14,599 got me a consistent spot on Bavoom. I'm in the Sexy Mexis now, 745 00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:16,000 and then I do a bunch of other bunch of other acts that she 746 00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:19,519 has me do. Right, I'm supposed to be on the one in October, 747 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,079 and I'm excited for that. But that's the cool thing about that is 748 00:47:22,119 --> 00:47:24,639 just like I remember, you know, I love friend wrestling. I love 749 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,800 the weirdness. I love that, you know, the wrestling at games kind 750 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,440 I think it is like, is uh just a just a crazy thing. 751 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,599 You look back at Tommy Dreamer wrestling at E three, you know, like 752 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,000 for easy w whatever, it is like we're in the record books of just 753 00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:44,280 weird wrestling stuff and I remember being like luch of them was coming Dichicago. 754 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,440 I was like, I gotta get on the show. And you know, 755 00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:49,159 I know that like my name held some value. I was in w but 756 00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:51,679 they didn't give a fuck. And when I pitched, like I was like, 757 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,519 oh, I also did this Matt classic character for a wrestling Society X. 758 00:47:54,599 --> 00:47:59,679 They're like, oh, what is that? The masked weirdness like let 759 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,840 score skies doing the Black President or whatever. That was amazing. I got 760 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,079 to be a secret services there on one of them. Yeah, and then 761 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,639 uh he was l presidental with a secret Service and we had a match against 762 00:48:09,039 --> 00:48:12,159 It was Halloween times. We had a match against like monsters, so we 763 00:48:12,199 --> 00:48:14,559 had a zombie, an alien, and a bunch of others. You wrestled 764 00:48:14,639 --> 00:48:17,519 as a secret I wrestled the President secret Service that's got black suit and glasses. 765 00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:21,199 Such a great show. I love creativity and it's great, man, 766 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,480 It's so good. Um okay, so then you know it leads you to 767 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,880 the aw starts. I guess we're are you. You know a lot of 768 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,199 people were just like I think I won't speak for you, but a lot 769 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,960 of people in wrestling until you know, I feel the young Bucks and Kenny 770 00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:39,960 like saved everybody. We're just like, well, I guess this is what 771 00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:44,880 it is, and we'll just do our thing until whatever. And next thing, 772 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,400 you know, you know, with a snap of the fingers, it's 773 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:51,199 like some some of all of our friends are on national television. Yeah, 774 00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:52,039 it was. It was insane. Is that? How do I mean? 775 00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:55,039 How does is that how it works out for? It's just your Yeah. 776 00:48:55,119 --> 00:48:58,639 But then's like then the two or five stuff came to me too, so 777 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,000 by that at the same time as the a W stuff, So I had 778 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,480 to come had to come sooner. I wouldn't have been in that and that 779 00:49:02,599 --> 00:49:06,039 brain, but I was kind of in that brain too. It's like but 780 00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:07,079 it was a positive mindset. We were. We were doing a lot of 781 00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:09,599 cool stuff in the area with like bar wrestling was still a thing at the 782 00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:14,840 time, and um I had started, I'd gone to like CZW and uh 783 00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:15,960 I had worked in the Midwest a couple of times, so I was like, 784 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,679 I think there's still potential here to do something make some money. And 785 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,599 then I'm I'm now the Championship Wrestling, I'm Hollywood producing there and riding Arizona. 786 00:49:22,639 --> 00:49:24,119 So I'm like, oh, there's potential there, you know, it's 787 00:49:24,119 --> 00:49:28,000 a real later and then uh and then when AW does start, it's like, 788 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,000 Wow, now there's this is real, this is some and you're, 789 00:49:31,639 --> 00:49:37,159 yeah, I don't know what you is it Tony's vision for a librarian? 790 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:43,880 Is that what it was? I was told that all of this stuff by 791 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,719 I think it was the Bucks and Cody. Cody had just slid in my 792 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:51,480 DMS at one point after working together and said, hey, keep may may 793 00:49:51,559 --> 00:49:53,000 open. I said, okay, and that's it. I just okay, 794 00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:58,239 and then um, I think CD and Sky and all them kind of told 795 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,960 me what this idea was about the librarian. It was Tony's idea, and 796 00:50:01,039 --> 00:50:04,920 then the Bucks had their own take on it as well, and then uh 797 00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:07,480 yeah, then it just hear a librarian. I kind of had to do 798 00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:09,880 my own research to kind of figure out what it was, because really it 799 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,559 was just like you say, shows and that's how you get heat. Tony 800 00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:15,280 had one one idea of it, the Bucks had one idea of it, 801 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:21,800 and then I tried to combine them into something where we're also telling two different 802 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,320 stories. We have one story on BT and then there's one story on the 803 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,519 air, and it got kind of it got it got confusing sometimes, but 804 00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:30,400 it was a nice challenge. Yeah, I mean, and like you're not 805 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,159 whatever you're You're the library and is no longer a thing, right, but 806 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,400 sometimes like my dream was of just like let's say, like when I went 807 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,639 to w B, like I was like, man, if they just told 808 00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:45,239 me to, like you're the butcher now, and you know, I was 809 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,719 in. I was in. I wanted to. I was trying my damnedest 810 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,559 to be a librarian. I but I was like Cracker and Jones, I'll 811 00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:54,719 just scoping people go to the school, go to school, become a librarian. 812 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,360 Like I was researching what it did. I was reading more, you 813 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,360 know, I went and bought specific clothes. I was trying to do it, 814 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:06,320 and I was I was gung ho, trying to be all in. 815 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,320 No pun intended, pun intended, Yeah, yeah, well intended. I 816 00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:13,840 wanted to be completely all in for this character. And I would have been 817 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,199 the like I would be if they wanted me to be library now up until 818 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,800 the end, I would have done it and I would have evolved it on 819 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:22,159 the way as you should, right, I am had I had maybe some 820 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,360 more help in developing what the character was or where it should have gone. 821 00:51:24,679 --> 00:51:30,039 Then you know, right, but then you have this crew now which I 822 00:51:30,119 --> 00:51:31,760 love, which is so fun, right, I love the Wingman. Yeah. 823 00:51:32,119 --> 00:51:36,239 And then Jacksonville, like you know, there's something about being like a 824 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,039 wrestlers wrestler. Uh, it's just when you when you're when you're popping the 825 00:51:40,159 --> 00:51:45,679 boys, I feel like you're that you're doing it right, you know, 826 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,199 like not like a secret like, but when the wrestlers are excited for people's 827 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,679 characters. Yeah, in my head, that's when you're doing the job correct. 828 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:58,239 I agree. And you know there was like always a buzz about in 829 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,920 Jacksonville is just like how much the wrestlers just love the Wingman. That makes 830 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,840 me happen. And you know it came from kind of just a hodgepodge of 831 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,440 dudes, and it's just like I think it was a hodgepadge of people that 832 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,880 everyone liked. Yeah, and like we're hoping something and then it was nice 833 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,320 when it all comes together and I'm sure you make some new friends and you 834 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,760 guys, we honestly the four of us really connected and it's it's it's it's 835 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,280 really funny watching like them into rat because it's like we have all been friends. 836 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,719 It seems like we've all been friends for years. At a point, 837 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,480 you know, Big says there Big, you know, Big j D, 838 00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:30,159 and then me and themith dumbasses, you know, yeah, and I don't 839 00:52:30,199 --> 00:52:34,840 know, like I you know, says there had some stuff with his family. 840 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,440 And then also, like you know, you think about like a man 841 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,199 who moves his whole first of all, a man who looks like that, 842 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:44,119 Yeah, it should be the champion of the war of the world. Yeah, 843 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,480 absolutely, And then he's got to move his family back, so like 844 00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:50,320 it's all it's cool that there was a spot. Yeah, and to really 845 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,079 get them to open up and learn about them, like I says, Our 846 00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:57,360 is one of the greatest humans, the sweetest dudes, and yeah, and 847 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,119 um and that's and here we are today in Germany, right and this is 848 00:53:01,199 --> 00:53:05,320 my favorite fucking trip man, Like I haven't. I've had a blast hanging 849 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,920 out with you, with Uno and yeah, everyone in Helico CD. It's 850 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:13,000 great. Knox. You know you you talked about going back a little bit. 851 00:53:13,039 --> 00:53:16,039 You talked about being you were in your worst place. You were booked 852 00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:19,760 as a ninety pound man. Yeah, I mean, but you turned it 853 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,639 like, yeah, you look like a wrestler, thank you. Yeah, 854 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,280 yeah, it was motivating that that all that stuff kind of you let it 855 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:30,800 motivate you instead of just you know, fuck up. How was that turnaround? 856 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,039 Was it just like I gotta go to the gym now, or I 857 00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:38,039 gotta start eating or yeah eat, you just started eating. And it's still 858 00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:40,239 the hardest thing for me to do. But it's just sucking down. And 859 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:45,239 you're, brother, yes I am, that's the fan imagine. Yeah, 860 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:50,840 I've always been overactive thyroid when I was a child. And yeah, though 861 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,079 you know, it's just about calories, right, it's just sucking about everything 862 00:53:53,199 --> 00:53:57,400 down. And then that's what I struggle on these trips because I just I 863 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,400 have to, I think, travel with like a ten pound bag of rice 864 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,840 on with me. You know. Yeah, I'm the complete opposite my friend. 865 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,239 I Yeah, everyone when we talk to when I talk weight to a 866 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,079 lot of people, they're like, all, I wish I had your problem, 867 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:13,960 Like right, please don't say you know, it's like it's sometimes I 868 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,000 feel like I look like a legitimate stick figure, you know, but I've 869 00:54:16,039 --> 00:54:22,519 had that. I'm I'm self aware enough where like I'm not always happy with 870 00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:25,800 it, but I but I do always see the other side of the other 871 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,079 side of the body type of was struggling that way too. It does make 872 00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:32,880 sense to me. You're self aware and you're smart. That's why, right, 873 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,440 Well a lot, right, a lot of people aren't. It could 874 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,079 drive into problems, right, that's true. But I'm everything's looking good for 875 00:54:38,159 --> 00:54:42,239 you. Thank you, man um, thanks for doing this, Thanks for 876 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,679 having me. Yeah, you you're okay with the mustache in real life. 877 00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:51,079 I have been now, yes I have. I've now tweaked it to how 878 00:54:51,079 --> 00:54:52,199 I like it. I didn't like it at first. It was a little 879 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,599 too long on the sides and it was like very I was like, did 880 00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:59,199 you grow out for sexiness or for librarians? So I had just a shit 881 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,679 beard, this shit beard at the time, and I was I had it 882 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,880 on Championship rustling from Hollywood, and I was like, I need a shave. 883 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,920 This looks like shit. So at the at the time, it was 884 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,480 at the Hollywood Towers, which was Marquez lived in the front house and then 885 00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:13,840 there was a backhouse on the property where I lived there. The director Billy 886 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,639 Trask lived there and some wrestlers lived there, and I was shaving and I 887 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,480 had to. I just had the mustache and I started laughing just how it 888 00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:22,400 looked. It was all long and kind of whispy, and like, all 889 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,519 right, I'm gonna show Dave. It was like huh, he goes keep 890 00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:27,239 it and I go, fuck you, and he goes, no, keep 891 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,199 it. I go all right, And it was like we were gonna go 892 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:31,880 to a New Year's party that night, so I was like, I was, 893 00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:35,559 let me go pop the goofs at the party. And then the reaction 894 00:55:35,639 --> 00:55:37,679 I was getting from everybody else I was drinking drinks. I was like, 895 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,480 hmm, yeah, I'll keep it around. And then I started just making 896 00:55:39,519 --> 00:55:43,679 it like that until I liked it. You know, I think the world 897 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,599 likes it. I think so I specifically thank you very much as I keep 898 00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:50,599 there, not into your eyes, but into your mustle, my beautiful stash. 899 00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:57,159 Thanks for being on, but thanks bro. 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