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What is up, fellow thermonuclear A
efforts. I am a dam valley coming

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at you with our pen ultimate NBA
look ahead for the twenty two twenty three

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season. We are onto the Memphis
Grizzlies. I am joined by the one,

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the only, the legendary Keith Parish. He is. He is the

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host of the Fast Break Breakfast podcast. Follow him and the podcast at Fast

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Love talking to Keith about the Grizzlies. I have many questions, but

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the first and most important question I
will ask, how the heck are you

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doing? I'm doing great, Dan, Thanks for having me, Thanks for

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the energy you're bringing to this.
It has lifted me, much like the

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wildness factor that Dylan Brooks brings to
my Grizzlies. I feel like you're elevating

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me just by your presence. I
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insult, though, so I'm gonna
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was meant totally as a compliment.
I sincerely defend Dylan Brooks and there's a

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certain I don't know, there's a
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that powers the Grizzlies. And that's
the energy you're given me, so full

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compliment. Please accept it as such. I will as such. And you're

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just you're always so good with drawing
parallels and comparisons, like the playoff one

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of Jaren Jackson Jr. You compare
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So the one that I forgot about
that, Yeah, one of my all

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time favorite moments on this pot.
I cut it off. Don't you gotta

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prep jar in every game? But
like, hey, man, don't get

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some dumb fouls. I got it. I got it. It's the same

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as my kid be like, hey, we're going to the Lego store,

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don't touch anything. I got it. And then once the ball drops,

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once we walk in that Lego store, it's limbs knocking over everything. Yeah,

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because one of the one of the
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way, I clipped that thing all
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or TikTok ever, but I threw
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was so so great. I will
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at all surprised against in support of
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for them over the off season because
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you let Kyle Anderson walk. You're
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and Jake la Rava, and you're
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bigger role. And we've heard a
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were you surprised that they weren't like
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upgrade with entrenched talent what was the
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year's regular season. In one sense, yes, I was surprised that this

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offseason did not represent an obvious step
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roster. Once something's happened, like
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the draft rights to David Roddy.
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it was like, Oh, they're
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development and I you said flex,
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an off season flex. It feels
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we keep hitting doubles, triples and
homers with our front office moves that

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we're just gonna say, you know
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sustain our title window. We can
extend possibly our title window by not bringing

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in established veteran talent. We're just
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have a superstar and John Morant.
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star in Desmond Bane. We have
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in Jared Jackson Jr. That's good
enough. We have enough pieces. Let's

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just try to hit an another double. And when I see now, I

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see something Aldama in preseason and in
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maybe we should just give this front
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need, because like last year,
Aldama looked bad and you're like, what

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are they doing? And now you're
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Maybe they know what they're they know
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general sense, yes, I was
surprised to go from last year where Danny

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LaRue wrote like an article before the
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be the sleeping Giant of the twenty
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to, they could have had cap
space, and they also had all these

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draft picks. They had the draft
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supposed to come from the Lakers that
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extra draft picks in this coming draft, and they had all their core under

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salary, and then they had the
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they turned all of that into losing
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just rookies. So you're like that, in the broad sense, that was

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surprising that they didn't go a little
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I was like, oh, this
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they're not going to trade for Jay
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to sign Gary Harris because they don't
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be better for us if we make
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be the path that they're gonna choose. I normally would be against the team

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being so conservative after having such a
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not spectacular or just not for them
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the biggest names that were traded.
None of those three guys made any sense

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for the Grizzlies and Mitchell Gobert or
Murray. And then it was the free

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agent market. I've had this conversation
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is not the same anymore. Maybe
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and with a cap coming up,
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to go after those mid end veterans, fine do it. But like the

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what they punted on, I guess
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would have just kept Kyle Anderson,
because that just seems like a good move

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to have done so that was like
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it was like, oh, David
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just gonna be ready immediately, Like
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can go over to minute like Minnesota, by the way, a conference rival

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who's trying to be good that he
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there is part of it where I
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why we lost Melton because he's very
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he's not an expiring free agent.
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The letting Kyle Anderson go to a
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And then added into that is oh, and by the way, not

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only is the fun office saying,
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move, we're only bringing in rookies, but hey, guess what, Jared

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got hurt and the off season,
like Jared secretly got hurt. He's gonna

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miss the start of the season.
We don't need the guy who filled in

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for him every time he missed a
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Anderson played tons of minutes for the
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here, and like, so letting
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a team projected to win a similar
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Melton go to a team that has
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to win more games in the East, like everyone's picking the Sixers to be

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good, and normally in the first
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good is oh, they got PJ. Tucker and Deanthony Melton, And so

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for a team minutes title window,
which I think the Grizzlies are, I

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mean the Grizzlies, they repeat it. I repeated a lot. Why I

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repeated a lot because these things are
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to them once the series are over. The Grizzlies had a lead in the

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fourth quarter of three of the four
losses to the Warriors, not to mention

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the fact that Jaw was hurt,
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Brooks was spending for two games Steven
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Desmond Baite had a hurt back look
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his field bull attempts in that series, and despite that, they had the

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lead of the final two minutes of
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were close. So I think their
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sense, it is strange to say
to maybe not make a go for it

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move, not to say they won't
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regular season to see how the season
plays out and like, oh, these

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teams were all tanking or this player
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our pieces to get something in here. But in the sense that you're one

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of maybe the eight teams that has
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the title, to not maybe push
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strange, and I'm not sure it
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will also say that Kyle Anderson one
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part of one of my favorite moments
last year where it was the video of

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I can't remember who was who did
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and Iyer Williams and someone did the
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after they hit a big shot.
It might have been Kyle, just was

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probably doing the Tickle Monster two Zayer
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this is just the two thousand,
twenty two Grizzlies in a nutshell and I

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love it. And so yeah,
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era. I loved him. Man, Yeah, yeah, I lost two.

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I lost my two favorite players.
I'm still in the market for my

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current favorite Grizzlies, so we'll see. I don't have any adjectives to describe

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John Moran anymore. I'm just out
of them. Uh. He was on

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the fringes of the MVP discussion already
that he is a superstar, already mentioned

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it. What does the next frontier
for him looks like? Is there even

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a next frontier? Like is the
focus still if he could just knock down

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threes? It is slightly higher clip? Where is there there's something else that

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you're watching? Because he doesn't I
don't want to say he's a player's ever

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finished, but he's just he's so
good that he's the type of he's so

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good it's hard to come up with
questions for John Moran, that's how good

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he is. Like you have to
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that matters, But I have no
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Well, you say, what's next. I mean he's he's young, like

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NBA players don't, they're not fully
done. And by your three and last

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year, ye three, I think
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vote if he didn't get hurt in
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He's still I think you know,
he was second team All NBA last

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year. I think what's next for
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keep going up. I think he's
gonna like he was thirty nine points per

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per one hundred possessions last year,
and like, I think he can repeat

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that and maybe play some more minutes. I think he has room to grow

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on making free throws, Like if
he could get up to become an eighty

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percent free throw shooter, that that
would be great. You know. The

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three point shooting, Yeah, it's
a it's a clearly a avenue for improvement.

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I don't know. I think like
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I hope he maintains that, but
his mid range shooting was pretty bad

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last year. It actually took a
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he was trying to add it in, you know, to have more and

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more of that. But I don't
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get better as he ages in the
NBA. Most NBA guys like they they

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add those things to their game.
So yeah, I think he's gonna have

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a huge year. And also clearly
defense, like just attention to detail on

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defense. He's probably never going to
be a plus defense, but he can

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do more on the defensive end.
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reason why the team just kind of, you know, sit still for lack

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of a better term, in the
off season. They know, like John's

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gonna carry us. Our job is
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perfectly fit with John Moran. He
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in a pinch. But I think
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what, let's build the prototypical player. Maybe Jake Clarevia is a better type

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of guy because of the beautiful three
point stroke, and once he gets comfortable

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with the NBA line, gets comfortable
with his NBA minutes, and that might

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be a year or two, but
Eventually that's going to be a better supporting

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piece that ideally fits the prototype that
goes around our MVP candidate of a point

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guard. The mid range shooting was
a really good point, not something that

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I gave a ton of consideration too. He shot when I was looking in

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preparation for this podcast over forty percent
I'm pull up threes after the All Star

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break and that I wouldn't expect that
to be the normal. But if his

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number on pull up threes is around
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I think it was at like thirty
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eight for the year, that's just
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too. He's just so and he
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like, the playoffs are over,
and then too many months passed, and

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I rank the Grizzlies like fifth on
my league, past Ryan Kings and then

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Jaws in the preseason, treating it
like the regular season. I'm like,

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how did not have these guys Number
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just like this highlight factory and he's
so just He's entertaining to watch even when

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he's not taking shots because of just
any decision he makes when he leaves his

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feet, whether it's like a pass
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just so polarizing in the best possible
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Well, Also, it's wild about
his three point shooting. Is that.

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Yeah, Like he got really hot
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Grizzlies made a ton of threes down
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it was playing teams that were kind
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and in the play in games,
he's made three pointers. Like he averages

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in his career, he averages two
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games, and like he hits them
in an okay percentage, and it's like,

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you know, he steps it up. And so if he can whatever

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that playoff juice, that that really
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up to you know, like usually
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And if he can add that and
then show some of that shooting that

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that he's demonstrated in the postseason in
the games that actually matter, like that

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is the next level I think that
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season. The next level for Jaren
Jackson Junior is starting five on five in

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a few weeks. I was reading, is like, what's a realistic timeline

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for his return at this point?
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announcement was four to six months.
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if you're student five on five,
two weeks from today, maybe he makes

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his debut, you know, three
to four weeks from today, that's on

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the that's on the timeline. That's
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So I don't think there's any reason
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that six month thing, which would
put which would put him returning like closer

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to Christmas. Them saying he's gonna
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we've been burned before, and we've
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returning when we thought he would.
But this just tracks with everything they've been

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saying. So to me, it
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he might miss fifteen games, and
it seems like he might miss fifteen games.

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Maybe he stretches to twenty five games, but you know, it seems

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like a return sometime in November is
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we'll have Jaren for hopefully you know, two thirds to three fourths of the

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Grizzlies games. How big of a
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the Grizzli He's not having him for
those let's say fifteen to twenty five games

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to start the year, gigantic Absolutely
huge. They Yeah, I mean he

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really tied the room together. He
plugged all the shots. He was great.

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You know, his his versatility on
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which makes is what makes him special. Like that combined with you know,

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the three point stroke which comes and
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But his you know, all defensive
team game last year is what made this

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team one of the better defensive teams
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they're gonna have a lot of trouble
protecting the rim. In addition, the

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pieces they elected to let go,
not having Kyle Anderson, not having d

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Anthony Mounton, and not having Jared
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I have it somewhere. I think
that's that's your first second and fifth and

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steals and first third and fifth in
blocks, and this team, the Grizzlies

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led the NBA in steals last year
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so like that was their identity.
Their identity was rebounding well, getting steals

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and blocks and getting out in transition
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And that's why they had a top
five offense. It wasn't because their half

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court was good. They were the
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to have a top five offensive rating
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Like they would not know that they
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year. I mean that was that
was the joke for me. Or it's

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like, man, what if the
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to like average, like they've never
lose, they never lose, and so

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but the formulas changed. I have
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you know, Kyle and Melson were
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then with no Jaren there, suddenly
I've been making the joke, like what's

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the fewest block shots you can get
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like this, like Brandon might get
one, Stephen might get one, it's

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like they don't have guys. I
honestly, I think Satio Dhama. He's

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a pretty solid help guy who who
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frame, he uses all of it, so he might get some blocks,

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but like they're gonna go from blocking
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strength to while jarn is out.
For me, it's a huge concern.

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I'm wondering how his absence in past, Like they were so good at generating

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turnovers last year, and if you're
not getting blocks, that could impact as

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well. But if you're also concerned
about what's happening on the back line of

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the defense, or you're just playing
people who are more inexperienced when you look

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at their options in the front court, that was a huge element of their

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defense, you lose Melton. He's
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And that's also when you're forcing turnovers
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year, for a team that can
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more of a benefit because they're gonna
enforce to take foul which should give you

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more free throw opportunities at that point. And so I'm wondering where even if

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he wasn't like the direct cause of
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think they forced more turnover statistically when
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was just annihilatory last season. Yeah, I'm just wondering if there's an impact

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there at all. And then you're
almost worrying about like two different forms of

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I don't want to say drop off, but reversion a little bit. No,

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I am worried, and like because
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You know, the second unit of
the last couple of seasons has feature

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Tias Jones, who's really good at
steals, also really good not turning the

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basketball over, So that helps your
your turnover merchant. Yeah, it's it's

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featured Tias Jones and D'Anthony Melton and
Kyle Anderson and Brandon Clark and like those

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guys are all great at defense,
just awesome at defense. And you know,

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Brandon Clark and Tias Jones are still
there, but the people they've replaced

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them with unproven, and so we
don't know if that forum is going to

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be there. And then you talk
about like the perimeter defense, you know,

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like they lost some of the good
perimeter defenders and then not having the

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back line to help you. It's
rough. The positive twist is Dylan Brooks

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is an excellent defender. He missed
most of the last year, Like yeah,

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it's what his games played was,
but it was like he played fewer

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than half of the Grizzlies games and
he's the best perimeter defender on the Grizzlies

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was last year as well, So
like, yeah, Dylan's gonna be there

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for more games. That will help
the defense. But still not having the

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rim protectors I think could be a
big issue. Not having the second unit.

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In my mind, it doesn't look
as good not having that be a

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backbone of your regular season success.
It is gonna mean that Grizzies are gonna

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have to find new new pathways to
victories. I think J J. Jear

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on offense last year saw as efficiency
dip. I do think when you look

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inside the arc, a lot of
it had more to do with like slightly

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more complicated usage. When you look
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Is there any like something just one
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like that you're watching for him this
season? Is it just you know,

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the three point volume is there,
but the officials he needs to come up.

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Is that just the biggest thing for
him. Jaron's offensive journey has been

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bizarre, and his first two years
it was like, this guy's trending to

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be maybe an eighteen to twenty point
per game score. This guy has unique

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offensive gifts. Not only can he
shoot, but he has sort of a

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handle in these weird long strides where
he goes past guys. He can beat

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most bigs off the dribble. And
when we project him to be, like,

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oh, is his eventual position.
His forever position will be center,

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and and you know like once once
he ages and fills out a little bit,

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he'll be a center who can beat
guys off the dribble. And then

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the last two seasons, like he
was healthy all of last year and the

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year before he you know, he
played like two hundred minutes or something.

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But his three point shot has always
looked strange. But it stopped going in,

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and you're like, oh, his
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That would be great if it improved. But also his like his steps

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got off, isn't like his gather
step. He got confused about it and

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he looks more awkward out there,
and you're like you used to be able

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to go pass guys, but now
you're shooting off the wrong foot and you're

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doing weird floaters. What happened?
And I don't I don't have the answer

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where it seemed like not just not
only did his three point shot, regrets

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his finishing in the paint and his
ability to beat guys off the dribble,

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like it really fell apart, like
at the start, at the start of

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the bubble season or the start of
the actual bubble. That's a Jared's second

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year. He I can't everybody average, but he was a much more proficient

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scorer than the first couple of games
before he got hurt, Like he was

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just we were thinking, can this
guy score twenty five a game? Because

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like, I don't see anyone who
stops him because he hits threes and then

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he beats guys off the dribble,
and then that kind of he really regressed

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the last couple of seasons. Last
year, though, all of a sudden

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he blossomed as the defender we all
dreamed of. So it's been like either

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or it's been either or this is
a this is a talented offensive advantage we

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haven't in this strange big and then
last year it's like, oh, he's

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our he's our demons a backbone.
He's an All NBA or defensive team level

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defender in the argument deeps a player
of the Year. If he ever marries

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the two, you get back in
the dreams that a lot of people had,

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like year two, where it's like, why can't this guy be Chris

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Bosh, Why can't this guy be
like a slightly different, maybe not Hall

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of Fame version of Kevin Garnett because
it was it was similar stats. If

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you compared like Bosh and Garnett's first
couple of years, you're like, if

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this guy could score eighteen the game
and be the defender we think he can

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be, you know, he's an
All Star. But for whatever reason,

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you know, we're now four years
in and it's been it's just been up

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and down on both sides. What
does a year three step forward look like

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for Desmond Bane after a monster leap
last season? Is it just like him

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handling more of the half court initiated. I can't even envision it because even

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after watching him Summer League in twenty
twenty one, I didn't see last year

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coming. I saw how they were
using him and I was like, oh,

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that probably won't translate to the regular
season, but it absolutely positively did.

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What could year three of Desmond Baine
be. Are you familiar with the

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works of a player named Klay Thompson? Are you familiar with the works of

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a player named Reggie Miller? Are
you familiar with Ray? No? H,

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No, I think it's gonna be
great. Yeah. No, I

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think he's gonna be great. I
think if you compare, if you look

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at what he did. He was
an older rookie. He slipped in the

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draft, I guess for concerns about
his wingspan and his age, even though

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he's not like super old or anything. And then he fully blossomed last year

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and became one of the better shooting
guards in the NBA. He was second

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in the three point percentage. He
shot ninety percent from the line. He's

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also a plus defender. He's the
perfect backcourt partner to John Moran. If

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he never gets any better, like
he may never gets any better, It's

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like, Okay, we now have
like Eric Gordon or something or something like

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like healthy Eric Gordon. But I
think he's gonna get better because, again,

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like I was saying, most guys
don't stop developing at twenty four or

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after after a couple of seasons.
So I do think, Yeah, he's

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gonna handle keep handling the ball more
and more. We saw that really developed

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last year where he was able to
handle a little bit of point guard,

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a little bit of playmaking. I
think he's gonna score, be able to

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beat guys off the dribble. He's
just learning more and more that I can

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shoot and score at all levels.
I think he's gonna probably average at least,

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maybe not at least, but around
twenty points per game. If he

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averages more than that, I'm not
going to be shocked. Like if he

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becomes Michael Red, I'm not going
to be shocked. This guy is an

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unbelievable scorer who just seems to be
like learning more and more, like,

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oh wait, I can do this, I could do this, and so

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as a plus defender and as that
shooter. Yeah, I think I think

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it's not unreasonable if the Grizzlies have
the team success the front office thinks are

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going to have, if they surprise
people a little bit again and find themselves

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as one of like the top four
seeds, like I think doesn't make could

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an astar this season. I would
agree with you, and I want to

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say that they need him too,
But when you look at their roster and

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the half court concerns that you laid
out offensively, he seems like the at

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least right now, the most important
non job player to like alleviating that I

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don't trust Dylan Brooks's shot creation.
And I just look at Desmond Bay last

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year and there are Eric Gordon was
a really good comparison. Sometimes it looks

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like what if Kyle Lowry was taller, and like that's just a really good

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player, yeah, like on offense. And so I think that he might

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be the single most important non job
player offensively for them because they do need

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like some more half court. I
don't know if that's a spicy take or

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like a hot like a cold take
at this point, Well, I think

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I think I think there's definitely a
lot of truth in that opinion. I

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think, you know, the semantics
of the of the term most important.

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I think I might go Dylan just
because that's the variable. I don't think

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there's a variable with desmon Bain.
I think doesn't mean is consistent, Like

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doesn't mean is going to give me
nineteen points on incredible true shooting percentages.

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But I do think desmon Baan has
a score. I was joking about this

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one on shows you know, well
my show, other shows last week.

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It's like, yeah, I think
desn'man is gonna score a lot because he

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has to score a lot because their
entire bench is now like extremely low usage

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guys, and like there there's basically
saying, hey, con Shar, we

407
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,599
need you to shoot more. You
know, like I don't see it necessarily,

408
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,880
So I think Bain is gonna have
all the opportunities to get all the

409
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shots he wants, and so yeah, he's incredibly important to their success.

410
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,799
But I might lean like, if
Dylan can make thirty four percent of his

411
00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:30,720
threes, again, that's maybe more
important than than than desmon Bain as far

412
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as the Grizzlies team success and their
offensive success and also like the creating a

413
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,160
shot thing that that is. This
is a question I come to and I

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00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,480
like, I pose to Dylan critics
where it's like, if you're a Grizzless

415
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,519
fan, you watch all the Grizzlis
games outside of John Morant. If someone

416
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,519
has to have the ball in their
hands with five second left, five seconds

417
00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:52,400
left on the shot clock, like
who are you going to I think Dylan

418
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,119
Brooks is better than Desmon Baind in
that situation. Like whatever you think of

419
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,720
Dylan Brooks mid range game, he
can get there. He can get it

420
00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:03,200
off no matter what's happening. And
so it's like in those in those like

421
00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:08,240
desperation the shot clock or the game
clock's running down and you have to get

422
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,440
a shot, I think Dylan is
probably your second best option. That's one

423
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,400
of the problems, honestly. I
mean that that is a problem with the

424
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,039
press half court offense, is there
aren't better shot creators. I hope we

425
00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:19,279
get to the point where I feel
like, you know what, Desmond Bane

426
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:26,039
he can create in that high pressure
thing where I can't just wait for the

427
00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:30,480
perfect shot. Another thing with Dylan
I'm with Desmond is you know, maybe

428
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,440
he does wait a little bit too
or he's not he's too picky with his

429
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,079
shot attempts. He shot this great
percentage. He needs to attempt more three

430
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,279
pointers for thirty six, So we
need to get him up to those whatever

431
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:45,279
it is, eleven three pointers per
thirty six that like Clay Thompson does like

432
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,279
eight or nine per thirty six.
No, no, des we need you

433
00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:53,039
to fire like you gotta shoot every
single time. Take a lesson from Dylan.

434
00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:56,039
Don't be bashful, just shoot.
It's okay. If you miss Steven,

435
00:26:56,079 --> 00:27:00,359
I'll probably get it. Dylan Brooks
his confidence, his aspiration and also

436
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,160
maybe that's a good way. Yeah, okay, out for Desmond Bane.

437
00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:08,279
What are you watching for most closely? Uh in Ziah Williamson's Zaire Williamson.

438
00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:11,640
That would be a heck of a
player. Zaire Williams is second year.

439
00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:17,200
It, you know, there's a
lot. I feel like there's a lot

440
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,480
has been put on his plate.
It's basically he's the hope. It feels

441
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,920
like of all Grizzy's fans to you
know, cover up the players that they

442
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,319
got rid of, and he's the
hope of all right, this guy was

443
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,039
the tenth pick. We hope he
develops. He's got that perfect size,

444
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:33,480
the perfect frame. Maybe one day
he will be better than Dylan Brooks and

445
00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:38,880
he can be our starter. And
our long term team is Jah and desman

446
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:45,160
In Zaire plus Brandon and Jared and
that's like our dominant dynasty run of that.

447
00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:48,799
But it's it's asking a lot of
a guy who in his rookie year

448
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,119
he shot some flashes. He started, he got to kind of a slow

449
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,000
start, and then he got hurt. He had health and sets to protocols.

450
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:57,240
When he came back, he was
much improved. I think he shot

451
00:27:57,279 --> 00:28:00,920
thirty four percent from three or final
two thirds of the season. He knocked

452
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,400
down some threes in the postseason.
What we're hoping front from him is,

453
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,799
I think a more consistent defensive presence. I would love to see him grab

454
00:28:08,839 --> 00:28:12,400
a rebound just every now and then, like you know, like we need

455
00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:18,319
help on the defensive glass. And
if he can raise his three point shooting

456
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,240
to be closer, not just thirty
four percent, Like I'm optimistic based on

457
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:23,920
what I've seen in preseason and in
summer league that he could be more like

458
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:29,359
a thirty seven percent thirty eight percent
three point shooter, because this team desperately

459
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,160
needs shooting. They desperately need three
point shooting. Like just the flat out

460
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,880
math of the NBA, it's a
lot easier to win basketball games when you're

461
00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:40,839
making twelve or more three pointers per
game, and the Grizzlies did not average

462
00:28:40,839 --> 00:28:44,119
twelve pint three pointers per game.
They won fifty six games despite not making

463
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,839
that many three pointers. But like
I've laid out, I think the formula

464
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,319
for winning is changing, and they're
not going to force as many turnovers,

465
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,839
and I'm worried about the defense not
being as good, so they need to

466
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:56,799
make up for that. I think
with improved three point shooting. They've said,

467
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,880
Zach Klemen has said, are our
folks this soft season was adding shooting

468
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:06,240
to the team, And you know
whether or not they've done that is a

469
00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:10,839
huge question mark. But internally,
you hope that Desire's the guy that he

470
00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:14,119
can get up more threes and make
him at a better percentage and hopefully fill

471
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,279
that gap from some of the missing
players and get them into that three point

472
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,799
volume and the three point made volume
that I think is going to lead them

473
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,119
to just make games easier. It's
just easier to you know, two in

474
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,119
basketball games if you're making twelve or
more, like the Grizzlies had a terrible

475
00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:32,799
winning percentage last year when they made
single digits. But also all NBA teams

476
00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:36,119
do, like the winning percentage the
team is making ten or few or three

477
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:37,799
pointers. It's like it's like thirty
percent or less. Like I don't rember

478
00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:41,319
the exact step, but it's it's
it's poor, and so they need Zaire.

479
00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:45,279
If I could pick one thing,
I think honestly it would just be,

480
00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:49,440
you know, increase that three percentage
by four percent and also let's kick

481
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,839
that volume up those three points attempted. If we can improve that as well,

482
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,359
that'd be awesome. They do seem
to trust him a lot defensively too,

483
00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:59,640
based off some of the assignments he
drew, and I wonder if that

484
00:29:59,799 --> 00:30:03,559
can attributed to the rebounding absence with
him, where he was just so laser

485
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:06,920
focused on why am I defending this
like star win, Like they were just

486
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,480
so confident that he's going to be
that guy. Yeah, I mean he

487
00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:12,720
had the opportunity, and you gotta
say, like in the positive category for

488
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:17,319
Zaire, I mean, the dude
started twenty something games for the team with

489
00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:19,680
the second best record in the NBA. Like, you know, he played

490
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,839
in the postseason. He had moments
guarding superstars in the postseas. He's guarding

491
00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:27,319
Anthony Edwards, he was guarding Steph
Curry at times. He's got the frame,

492
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,920
he's got the height, he's got
the perfect prototypical size. He's got

493
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,519
the hair that takes him all the
way up to seven feet when he lets

494
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:37,759
the throw out, So all these
things are good. Yeah, if he

495
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:40,519
could, if he can improve,
just like you assume me will. I

496
00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:42,640
mean he rookie the second year,
you assume he's gonna get better on the

497
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,519
defensive end. If he does,
then you're like, hey, nice,

498
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:48,759
we don't have this two way wing
that that's really helping us win ball games.

499
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:55,279
Do you buy Santi Aldama as an
impact player this year? Defined impact

500
00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:57,960
like he so when I go back
and watch some of the preseason, but

501
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,359
then some of the summer league,
he's just every like he's sort of just

502
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,000
everywhere in the game where it's like, oh, he had more offensive rebounds

503
00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:07,559
than I thought he did. Oh, like look at him like taking guys

504
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,440
off the dribble and getting by them
into the rim. Oh he hit like

505
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:15,160
threes on kickouts. Oh did he
just make this really wicked live dribble pass.

506
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:18,759
I'm just like, I don't know
whether to be smitten by him or

507
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:21,640
not. And I'm just curious.
I think they do, unless I'm wrong,

508
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,200
they need him to play a fairly
large role wall Jared Jackson Juniors out,

509
00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:26,519
and so I'm just wondering if you
buy what you've seen from him,

510
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:32,039
in summer league and the preseason.
I do. I believe in Santy.

511
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:37,319
It's funny. His summer league in
twenty twenty one, his summer league last

512
00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:40,839
summer, I remember being like,
this is one of the worst basketball players

513
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:47,640
I've ever seen. He shot something
like seven percent and he you know,

514
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,240
they were like, oh, he
just flew over from Spain. He hasn't

515
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,160
practiced. I'm like, all right, but wow, that that was rough.

516
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,480
And then you fast forward to this
summer league and in Vegas he was

517
00:31:56,519 --> 00:32:00,720
like second team All Summer League and
he's putting it together. He still makes

518
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,880
these goofy mistakes, And I think
this is one thing that I've noticed about

519
00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:08,359
you know, us as basketball fans, where like a goofy mistake registers a

520
00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:13,240
lot more than just like a bad
shot or a dribble off your foot or

521
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,519
just being inefficient, and so like
this is also like people who criticize our

522
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:22,440
guy Kyle Anderson. Kyle Anderson's mistakes
are loud because they're weird looking. You're

523
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,200
like, wow, that guy just
hit the side of the backboard on a

524
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,440
three point and it took him four
seconds to shoot it. But like,

525
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:31,359
it doesn't all mistakes are the same
if you if you have a beautiful look

526
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,559
at jump shot and you're Don Waiters, well guess what you know. I'd

527
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,680
rather have a guy making a lot
of bad mistas like or just very loud

528
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,880
and mistakes that are memorable, but
has actually helping you with basketball. It

529
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,160
was more. And I think Santel
Dahma is going to help his team win

530
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,200
basketball games. I think his year
of development last year is gonna pay huge

531
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,680
dividends. And like I think he's
gonna be a solid starter and when Jared

532
00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:57,000
returns, I think he's gonna still
be in the rotation. I don't see

533
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,519
any reason why you know, this
guy can't be like fifth on the team

534
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,680
in points per game, Like I
think he might average more points per game

535
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,400
than Zirah Williams or Brandon Clark.
Like, I just think his points come

536
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,000
easier. He gets those offensive rebounds. We're like, oh, yeah,

537
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,279
he's just tall and you got you
got the shot, you put it back

538
00:33:14,319 --> 00:33:17,559
in, And like his three punt
shot looks great now, admittedly none of

539
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:22,440
them went in last year. Like
literally, I think literally he made one

540
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,119
non fourth quarter three pointer last year
and it wasn't because he was making clutch

541
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,720
three pointers. He's because he was
making three pointers in garbage time, and

542
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:32,839
so hopefully the regular season is not
too big for him. The lights aren't

543
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:38,319
too bright. But I think this
guy is legit. He's a unique guy

544
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,640
where like he looks comfortable a little
bit with the ball in his hands.

545
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,920
He looks just like he's more athletic
than you assume. He honestly can catch

546
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,200
lobs better than maybe anybody on the
team. But but Brandon Clark in Zaire,

547
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,759
I think he might be a quicker
jumper than Jared Jackson junior, which

548
00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:59,160
is weird to think. So I
think, yeah, I believe in Santy,

549
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,240
and I think he is going to
be a positive contributor to this tim

550
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:06,400
in rotation even when Jaren comes back. Two players I know even less about

551
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,440
because I don't pay much attention to
college basketball and I don't really learn about

552
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:14,039
rookies till you get to the MBA
David Roddy and Jake la Ravia driven early

553
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:16,559
impressions of their games. And who
do you expect to play the bigger role,

554
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,840
if any role, for the for
the Grizzlies this season. It looks

555
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:27,199
like the opening that rotation is likely
to feature La Ravia and Jake La Ravia

556
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:32,559
when he's standing still, the three
pointer is beautiful. So far beyond that,

557
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:36,760
it's not beautiful. He hasn't made
them. He didn't make him summerly.

558
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,920
Outside of one game, he hasn't
made them in the preseason. He

559
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,440
looks exactly like, here's the thing. He looks exactly like old Mike Miller

560
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:51,320
as far as minus the tattoos.
He doesn't seem overly athletic. He looks

561
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,159
a little bit slow out there,
but like you know, you kind of

562
00:34:55,159 --> 00:35:00,280
get walks. It's like it's like
the way a lacroix. You know,

563
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,559
this is lime flavored. I can
see what you're talking about, Like there

564
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,000
is like a memory of a lime
insight here. Larravya is giving me a

565
00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:12,599
memory of old Mike Miller. I
don't I'm worried he's not ready at all.

566
00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:17,000
I think David Roddy is more ready. But just because of the draft

567
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,440
priority and because of the size a
few inches taller for Jake La Ravia that

568
00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:25,719
I think La Ravia gets first crack
at being like tenth in the rotation on

569
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,320
opening night. But like you,
I also don't watch college basketball, and

570
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:34,159
you know I don't want to judge
these guys too harshly based on just preseason

571
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,000
and summer league, because it's been
it's been up and down, and it's

572
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:43,960
been a like a little bit concerning
when you think about this Grizzlies team has

573
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,480
title aspirations, and if not title
aspirations, they have at the very least

574
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,639
progress further in the playoffs than they
did last year. And Ken Roddy and

575
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:59,159
La Ravia gets you there. Uh, I would bet no, But I

576
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:01,880
know the front office maybe they're they're
again doing a little flex and they feel

577
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,440
like, come come March April May, those guys are are going to be

578
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:10,760
ready to contribute. What's the over
under on the number of all NBA teams

579
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:16,840
that Kenny Lofton Junior makes for his
career? Man the Kenneth Lafton Junior not

580
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:22,280
playing more than one game in preseason
is a mystery. He played one preseason

581
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:29,239
game. He he beat Serge Ibaka
for an and one. He bullyballed Brook

582
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,719
Lopez under the basket for a layup. He scored seventeen points on eight field

583
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,119
goal attempts, and we were like, this guy can't be stopped. And

584
00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:39,840
then he didn't play in another preseason
gain and like they're playing Vince Williams junior

585
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,440
and Kennedy Chandler's playing constantly like why
can't we get Kenny Lofton back in.

586
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,280
I don't know, man, I
don't know what the ceiling is. I

587
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,280
had Chris Harrington, you know,
covers the Grizzlies. He was on Grits

588
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,480
and Grinds a couple of days ago
with me, and he was just like,

589
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,559
if we had to do the draft
over and I can only pick one

590
00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:59,840
guy out of this Grizzlies draft class, I'm taking Kenneth Lfton junior. Like

591
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,039
I think, wow, I would
project him to have a better nbiate career

592
00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:06,960
based on what I've seen than Roddy
or Laravia. And you know, I

593
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,679
don't know that's a hot take,
but like we haven't seen Lofton be bad

594
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:15,039
and right, I mean, he
committed a ton of fouls and a ton

595
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:19,840
of turnovers in Summer League. But
this is also a guy who like was

596
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,599
hooping on Victor within Yama two years
ago, you know, like like for

597
00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:28,039
this team USA under nineteen squad and
now fat for me, that's like the

598
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,320
last time I saw him. And
now fast forward two years and he's on

599
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,800
my summer league team, he's on
my preseason team, and I see him

600
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,239
play and I'm like, no one
can stop this guy on offense. I

601
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,320
want to see I need proof of
concept that it doesn't work. I need

602
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:45,119
him to be embarrassed. I needed
him on opening Night to be like totally

603
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,360
embarrassed by like Isaiah Hartenstein and Julius
Randall. She'd be like, oh,

604
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,599
okay, yeah, he's not ready
because like when he like folded up brook

605
00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:57,320
Lopez and put him in the locker
in a preseason game, I'm like,

606
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,320
whoa like the same thing he did. Guys hadn't know their names in summer

607
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,199
league. He did. The NBA
players I've heard of DBA players who are

608
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,679
known for being good defenders. Yeah, they're you know, maybe Surgeon brook

609
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,199
or at the end of their careers. But it's still like, all right,

610
00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:14,559
I need to see him kind of
a mountain to move. He's still

611
00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:17,119
a mountain. And the Bucks fans
are optimistic though brook Lopez is back,

612
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:20,920
will be better, we'll have a
better regular season, which I buy into.

613
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,159
I'm just saying I want to see
Junior, who's just like Zebo Microwave

614
00:38:25,199 --> 00:38:29,679
bench scorer I need to see him
get some burn man, because I'm excited.

615
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,960
So do you view the bench this
season as being as strong as it

616
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:38,239
was last season? No, I
mean I've already already basically said that,

617
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,440
Like, I don't. I don't
see anyway. I don't see the formula.

618
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:46,079
I don't even see the I don't
even see the optimistic take for how

619
00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:49,920
you get there. I think if
you're talking about the Grizzlies overall, the

620
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,599
optimistic take for the Grizzies being better, it is pretty simple. Jamrant gets

621
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:54,960
better, and your four Desmon Baying
gets better, and you're three dialing Brooks

622
00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:59,280
is actually healthy. By the way, last year that the Grizzlies were incredible

623
00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:02,679
when Desmond and Dylan played together.
They were unbelievably good when Dylan and Jaren

624
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,760
played together. Like like, there's
a there's a clear optimistic past for the

625
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,239
Grizzlies. But it's their top line
talent. It's the it's their starters plus

626
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:15,000
maybe a Brandon Clark plus Tyas Jones
the back line talent. I can't formulate

627
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:19,159
an argument that the six through ten
they're better, like Tyas Jones had a

628
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:22,800
career year last year. If you're
being optimistic about the Grizzlies. You hope

629
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,760
he plays less because that means John
Rent's playing more. Like I don't like

630
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,519
Tyas Jones shot a career high and
three point attempts three point percentage, and

631
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:32,960
like, you know, I don't
think he can increase that because I think

632
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,119
he's gonna play actually less. You
know, Zaire, that's the one where

633
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:38,320
you're like, all right, if
if you believe Zaire can make a huge

634
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,880
leap in from year one to year
two, okay, well then that's how

635
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,559
we get there. Well, like
Conshar, I don't think. I don't

636
00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:47,559
think a contart breakout's coming. What
did you say about him when what he

637
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:52,440
signed you were talking about you call
his like three pointers artists and all no,

638
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,760
no, I got, I got. I got upset that Chris Vernon

639
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,920
said that said the Conshart was a
better three point shter than Danthony Maunton,

640
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,880
And I was like, you can't
take his single use, artisanal, handcrafted

641
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,760
three point attempts. Man, that
guy shoots like two per game, like

642
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:14,199
in twenty minutes. Like, yeah, Conshart shot at better percentage than DNT

643
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,960
Melton last year, but he there's
no volume. It's it's these yeah,

644
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,519
individually numbered, handcrafted attempts and like, no, no, the dude's got

645
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:23,719
to put some shots up. And
also, Conschart played a lot of minutes.

646
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,400
Last year, he played seventy seven
games, played like nineteen minutes a

647
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,599
game, Like, are you he's
not gonna play more than that? Like

648
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:34,039
what are we projecting here? They
don't play bench guys twenty four minutes a

649
00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:37,199
game, So like, I don't
see how Conshar, I don't see how

650
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:40,880
his three pointers go up enough to
accommodate for the Melton threes you lost.

651
00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:45,599
I also don't see him being a
better overall player than Melton and Kyle Anderson.

652
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,480
And I don't see the rookies like
we already we already spelled out.

653
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:52,280
I don't see them being those positive
impact players like you know we get from

654
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,119
Brandon Clark. Brandon Clark was great
last year. We hope he's great again.

655
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,320
Tyas Jones was great last Yarf of
the bench. But these are the

656
00:40:57,639 --> 00:41:00,239
same players the guys you lost were
placing them with. If it is Roddy

657
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:07,239
or more contre minutes, I have
a hard time imagining Zire Williams improvements on

658
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,920
their own are going to compensate for
what you lost. Yeah, I guess

659
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:15,400
maybe once Jaren Jackson Junior is back
and you nudge all Doma to the bench,

660
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,440
that okay a little bit. But
yeah, I mean, look,

661
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,800
hey, I'm team should have kept
Kyle Anderson. So I'm with you.

662
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,239
Well, I mean, like,
I think Aldma can have similar averages,

663
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,920
think than like than like Kyle when
Kyle did when Kyle started. Like,

664
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,079
I think even in a bench role, you can get like, you know,

665
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:35,880
ten points, five rebounds, one
block from Santy and maybe the break

666
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,440
threes and so that's like he is, so so he is and so like

667
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:45,360
maybe the spacing works better. Maybe
the egalitarian nature of the Grizzlies second unit

668
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,079
where they just spread the ball around, maybe it'll flow a little bit better

669
00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:52,360
without Kyle there. But like you
you're telling me Sante you're two is gonna

670
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,159
be a better player than a proven
NBA vet and Kyle Anderson. I have

671
00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:58,719
a hard time getting there. That's
been Baine did it. Doesn't Baine proved?

672
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,920
Man prove me wrong. I mean, if you've given me an over

673
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,880
under for like eighteen points, I've
been like, no, what are you

674
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,480
kid? Nuts? But yeah,
no, I mean doesn't band was incredible,

675
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:09,159
and also any blind Grizzly's optimist who's
like yelling at me that like we're

676
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:12,920
better, man, you gotta trust
the phone office. Like if you throw

677
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:15,639
the dezn't ban argument, there's no
comeback, like, yeah, you're right,

678
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,800
Like doesn't Bain went from like he
can't get it over Grayson Allen,

679
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,800
which most of Christy fains we were
losing our minds about. And then all

680
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:23,559
of a sudden you're like, oh, yeah, Desn't band, there is

681
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:28,000
a fringe all star from your one
to year two. Okay, if Desire

682
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:30,880
Williams becomes a fringe All Star from
your one to year two, yeah,

683
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,719
yeah, Grissies are gonna be awesome. There will be someone on YouTube who's

684
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,000
angry that you call him an all
Star instead of all MBA because that has

685
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:43,800
happened. Oh yeah, YouTube,
commoners man, so so much optimism.

686
00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:47,840
Oh we know this team's like patented
strength, getting out in transition, betwing,

687
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,440
pressure on the rim, pitting the
glass. Do they have any underrated

688
00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:59,440
strengths that you don't think receive enough
attention? I mean, if you throw

689
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:05,039
in their strength being Jamaran is awesome. No. I think we've covered the

690
00:43:05,039 --> 00:43:12,400
basis the basis is uh, like
I I you know you all right?

691
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,679
So so this might be one speaking
to the blind optimism and the fact that

692
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:20,079
the Grizzlies kind of keep out performing
what people expect of them, at least

693
00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:23,519
nationally. Maybe there is maybe there
is a system here. Maybe we are

694
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:28,400
a system team. Maybe we are
the San Antonio Spurs of the of the

695
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:34,920
Popovich, Duncan Jenoble dynasty, where
it isn't a matter who played for the

696
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,519
Spurs on a night to night basis
they won, Like, yeah, they

697
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:43,039
needed Tim Duncan and Parker and Jenobley
to win titles, and the Grizzlies,

698
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:45,400
you know, they don't have those
guys yet. We hope we project in

699
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:51,599
our dreams that Jaw and Jaron and
Desmond can get there. But in the

700
00:43:51,639 --> 00:43:55,880
regular season, it seemed like for
twenty years, if it was Matt Barnard

701
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,400
Bonnard's night to start, it didn't
matter the Spurs won. They still won

702
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:04,599
seventy five percent of their games.
And I think there is some hope,

703
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:07,239
there's some dream that I have based
on last year, we saw it.

704
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,159
They were plug and play. John
Moray didn't play, we win. Dylan

705
00:44:12,159 --> 00:44:15,440
Brooks doesn't play. We still win. Jaren Jackson Junior doesn't play, we

706
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:20,880
still win Like there's no there's no
discernible difference when guys play are not.

707
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,119
The Grizzlies still are winning sixty five
percent of the game, sixty percent of

708
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:28,480
their games. So part of me
feels like this front office, this coaching

709
00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:34,559
staff, this organization has found something
and it's possible that they're they're like a

710
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:37,719
system don't for lack of a better
term, they're a system team. They're

711
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,320
plug and play, and they've unlocked
something about the regular season, if it

712
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,159
is just the pace, the forced
turnovers, the offensive rebounding, something about

713
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:51,599
their offensive and deepensive system where they're
not gonna miss you know, if you

714
00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:52,760
lose your seventh and eighth, guys, you're not gonna miss it because you're

715
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,079
just gonna it's next man up.
And that they have proven for a couple

716
00:44:57,079 --> 00:44:59,599
of years now, like yeah,
two years ago they weren't great, but

717
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:02,639
like it didn't matter who played.
Honestly, at least it's seemed that way

718
00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:09,840
at times that you know, maybe
this team has figured out something and they

719
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:15,039
will have this success regardless of basically
who suits up for him. That's a

720
00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:19,159
good point because I call it a
developmental flex without even like kind of mentioning

721
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:22,559
like what they've built over the years, and I would have they've they've hit

722
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:24,960
the over three straight years, I
think, or something like that comfortably,

723
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:28,960
like like not even just hit it, they've annihilated it. I mean,

724
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:31,800
yeah, two Jah's rookie year because
I don't watch college, so I'm an

725
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,119
ignorant, just pundit being like this
is the worst team in the West,

726
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:39,039
comfortably and everyone agreed, like at
like nationally, the Grizzlies were like,

727
00:45:39,199 --> 00:45:44,880
they're gonna be fifteenth, and they
would have made the playoffs if not for

728
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:50,679
the league changing the rules mid season
and instituting a play in like they were

729
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,440
comfortably the eighth seed, and then
like they're like, hey, let's have

730
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,679
an eight let's have an eight game
playoff, and if you're within five games

731
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,760
or whatever of the Grizzlies, you
get to force them to a playoff because

732
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,480
we're open. Zion Williamson makes it. It turns out it turns out the

733
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,280
Trailblazers, uh, you know,
like did it so like they would have

734
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,920
made the postseason Josh rookie year and
then his second year, people were like,

735
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,280
whoa man that was kind of out
of the blue. They're not gonna

736
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,199
make the playoffs. They got to
make the playoffs. They make the Warriors

737
00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:15,519
in the play in and then last
year they were like, oh man,

738
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:21,000
they're taking a step back their organizational
flex getting rid of two starters and Grayson

739
00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:25,400
Allen and Jonas found chunas. They
won fifty six games. So like they've

740
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:31,360
obliterated every every preseason over under for
the last three seasons, which is funny.

741
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,280
Again, this are things that are
thrown into my face because this is

742
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,119
the first year I haven't been on
board. Yeah, the rook Josh rookie

743
00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:38,119
year, I wasn't on board,
But like the last two years, I'm

744
00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:40,159
like, I like it. I
think the gds are gonna be good.

745
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:44,000
I'm I was on board for ever
remove. I was on board for the

746
00:46:44,039 --> 00:46:46,159
Justice Wislow trade, which is the
thing other people don't mention like that that

747
00:46:46,159 --> 00:46:49,840
didn't work out. It hasn't been
all home runs for the front office.

748
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,920
But like, I've been on board
with every move basically for the last three

749
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,880
seasons. This offseason is the first
one where I'm like, I have concerns

750
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,199
and then people are like, shut
up, So I not put your concerns,

751
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,880
We're good like we might be.
You're probably right, are the concerns

752
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,400
are expectations, So you have to
well, I mean, you know the

753
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,559
YouTube commenters, I'm like, I
think we I think we're going over.

754
00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:13,239
I think we're gonna win forty nine
fifty games, and they're like, dude,

755
00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:19,639
that's few games. So one of
my favorite things to do is look

756
00:47:19,639 --> 00:47:22,599
at teams what they'll be like at
full strength and trying discern who will be

757
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:24,199
like their top ten most to use
guys. And when I went through the

758
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:29,119
Grizzlies, it seems like they have
nine locks. When Jared's healthy, you

759
00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:32,519
have him, Marant Brooks, Bain, Steven Adams, Tias Jones, Zeer

760
00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:37,440
Williams, Brandon Clark, and then
I have Aldama, Pennsylton as a a

761
00:47:37,519 --> 00:47:39,960
lock. And so do you agree
that those are the nine locks? And

762
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,800
how would you flesh out like the
last person or the last two if you

763
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,760
don't think Santi's a lock? Yeah, you're tough. Your top eight is

764
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:52,320
unassailable. Those are Those are definitely
the Grizzes top eight players. I you

765
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,760
know, arguing whether or not conchar
Is or Aldama is locked in as your

766
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:04,000
ninth guy. I think Aldama because
of his positional versatility, like he's gonna

767
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,199
start at the four, but most
of his minutes last year they felt more

768
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,760
like a small forward. And he
is a guy that I think can be

769
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:15,960
on the perimeter like because of you
know, he moves okay, and because

770
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,360
of that size, all right,
he can guard three sometimes, but he

771
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,719
likes standing on the perimeter just fine, Like that's not gonna hurt the Grizzlies.

772
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,880
So I think because of that,
yeah, I would say right now

773
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,800
it does feel like Aldama is the
ninth man and then that tenth guy is

774
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:35,559
just gonna be probably Conchar but you
know if I think the Grizzlies might hope

775
00:48:35,679 --> 00:48:38,559
that Roddy passes him in the rotation. But it does feel safest to say

776
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:43,159
I think Aldama as your ninth guy
and con as the tenth guy. When

777
00:48:43,159 --> 00:48:46,400
you're locking in this timm In rotation. This is some extent matchup dependent and

778
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,039
the Grizzlies clude us in last year
and what they'll do. But if you're

779
00:48:50,119 --> 00:48:52,840
Taylor Jenkins, what's your go to
crunch timeline up this year? I mean

780
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,840
I am nuts for the Grizzlies,
you know, for lack of a better

781
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,920
term, it's overused. But like
the Grizzlies death line up, it's jaw

782
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:06,039
Desmond Dillon and then Brandon Clark and
Jaren Jackson Junior. And we didn't see

783
00:49:06,039 --> 00:49:07,960
hardly any of it last year because
of injuries. It just it didn't play

784
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,920
in there. I think it was
thirteen possessions played in the regular season and

785
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,840
we finally got a seat in the
postseason and guess what, Yeah, it

786
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,320
roasted people. I mean, it
just killed it like it's it's it's it's

787
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,920
one of the best five man lamps
you can make in the NBA. And

788
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,679
I'm not I don't I'm not being
I don't know, not exaggerating. It's

789
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,400
on par with like the best lineups
the Celtics and the Warriors and the Bucks.

790
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,599
Like maybe those guys can put together
better lims, maybe this Suns can

791
00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:35,960
put together better lamps. But like
it's basically it's a great five man unit

792
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,719
that I was frustrated it didn't get
used even more. And and the really

793
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:43,880
frustrating thing was it seemed like the
coaching staff recognized this was our best five

794
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,400
men unit because that's how they ended
games. But they took their sweet time

795
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,639
getting to that five man rotation in
the playoffs, like they started Zavin Chelman's

796
00:49:51,639 --> 00:49:54,119
sums, they always started Steven Adams
and because of you know, Jared's foul

797
00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:57,840
trouble that we've talked about, Like
you're like, oh, Jared's and foul

798
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,719
trouble, we can't use our our
best lineup. Cool, you know there's

799
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,920
a there's a solution to this.
You could maybe play them all together when

800
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,159
no one has any fouls, like
at the start of the night, Like

801
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,519
there's a solution to finding more minutes
for your best five man unit. But

802
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:15,760
they never did it, and so
that lineup I can't I don't have in

803
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,400
front of me. They were you
know, like they played something like eighty

804
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,039
possessions in the playoffs and their net
rating was plus thirty five, which like

805
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:22,800
I'm not gonna say it was a
called shop and I'm like, this our

806
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,239
best lineup. We're gonna crush people
with this. And then of course,

807
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,159
I guess in the Warrior series,
it only got to play in the first

808
00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:32,239
game because of Dylan's suspension, because
of Job getting hurt. It only played

809
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,079
five minutes in the first game,
so like we never even saw it against

810
00:50:36,119 --> 00:50:38,239
the Warriors. So like that is
I think clearly the Grizz's best five men

811
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,920
unit. It's why I am optimistic
about this Grizz's team despite my concerns of

812
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,519
losing my favorite players. Like these
five guys together are gonna crush people.

813
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,960
It's just how many minutes can we
get and can we optimize those minutes and

814
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,280
see that play a lot of minutes
together in the regular season. They played

815
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,960
eighty seven possessions in the postseason for
plus thirty five point six net rating,

816
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:01,760
which is high. And if you
care about the thirteen possessions, they had

817
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,920
a sixty seven point two defensive rating
during the regular season. That's clearly yeah,

818
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,800
I mean it's it's it's an ideal
front court pair, like like the

819
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:17,000
Jared and Brandon front court with with
Dylan and Desmond guarding folks. People can't

820
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,920
score on it like that, Like
it's I mean, I know, offense

821
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,559
beats defense, good offense beats good
defense, but like it's elite defensively and

822
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:29,920
then you have Jammerin and Desmond Paine
and just like these guys, it works.

823
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,519
It's good enough on offense. So
like, yeah, I'm extremely optimistic.

824
00:51:32,599 --> 00:51:36,639
Like that's for me. That's this, that's this Grizzly season. Like,

825
00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:37,880
I'm like, Jared needs to come
back because I want to watch those

826
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:43,280
five guys play together as much as
possible. Your Taylor Jenkins is they're a

827
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,679
weirdo, bonkers, quirky lineup that
you're trying this season? Is this?

828
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,679
Wait? Am I actually Taylor Jenkins? Or am I Keith Paris coach of

829
00:51:51,679 --> 00:51:54,480
the Grizzlies because those are very different
answers. You're right, that's that's you're

830
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,519
the first This is the twenty ninth
look ahead I've recorded, and no one's

831
00:51:58,519 --> 00:52:02,960
framed it like that. You're Parish. There's one Bonker's line up you're rolling

832
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,880
out. Oh wow, Well now
I don't have a good answer. I'm

833
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:17,880
uh, cover your ears, Grizzies
fans about here's the thing I want to

834
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:23,280
see. I want to see.
I want to see Dez with Dylan,

835
00:52:27,039 --> 00:52:36,280
with Zaire, with Jaron with Brandon. Oh, so it's like Desmond Banger

836
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,159
point guard. So jommer, it's
not on the court. Is that right?

837
00:52:38,679 --> 00:52:42,280
Is that? Is that bonkers?
Listen, there was a moment where

838
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,159
we thought that Grissies weren't gonna resigned. Tias Jones I feel like like the

839
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,800
kind of for a minute, the
mood shifted where where we we'd seen all

840
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,719
these Summer League games and stuff were
like the year before, like hey,

841
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,199
we have no point guard, and
then last year there were games where you're

842
00:52:55,039 --> 00:53:00,000
John Missile those games so when Thias
wasn't on the court, they were all

843
00:53:00,039 --> 00:53:02,239
LEAs non traditional point guard lineups.
And by the way, just like most

844
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,599
chriss Is line ups last year,
Chrissy smokes people and it was like,

845
00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:09,119
hey, we have no point guard. Do we need to pay a backup

846
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:12,480
point guard a lot of money?
Let's just see what happens. Like we're

847
00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:16,639
just like maybe point guards overrated.
Let's let's have anyway. So like so

848
00:53:16,679 --> 00:53:19,800
there was a time there where it's
like, you know what, I'm starting

849
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,199
to think maybe we could just you
know, like uh Dez and Dylan and

850
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:27,119
Zaire. That's that's good enough,
and then we have our best front corp

851
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:30,079
pairing and Brandon Jaren I'm interested in
that one. I mean, maybe that's

852
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:34,199
too weird, though I'm not like, I honestly I don't have a weirder

853
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,800
lineup because maybe I could argue the
thing I already told you for our best

854
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,639
possible five man unit that is the
weirder lineup. If it's only played one

855
00:53:40,679 --> 00:53:45,719
hundred possessions total together last year,
maybe that can qualify as being my weirdo

856
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,320
line up, the weirder lineup.
I do think Taylor Jacket is gonna try

857
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,480
is a tie Us Jaw, Dez, Dylan Zaire. Oh nope, right

858
00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:59,440
up my alley. I never would
have. Yeah, I think I My

859
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:01,880
my called shot is the Grizzlies are
gonna be when's this coming out? Do

860
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:07,079
you be telling you? Are you
telling me? When this is releasing before

861
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:09,960
Opening night? It'll be before the
Grizzlies play there, they're opening night game.

862
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,280
Yes, all right, all right, So my called shot is the

863
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,440
fourth quarter of the Grizzlies Knicks on
Opening Night. The grizzle are gonna be

864
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,480
down by eight, and it's going
to be ti Us and Jaw with Uh

865
00:54:20,679 --> 00:54:24,199
with with with at least Dylan and
Uh and Dez. That's ther one for

866
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,360
one through four. They into that
at all in the preseason. I thought

867
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,639
they would. I thought they would
try these super small ball lineups. I

868
00:54:29,679 --> 00:54:31,719
think they're gonna go super small ball
and then maybe with like something weird like

869
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,840
Santy at the five or something.
So I think we're gonna see a weird,

870
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,119
a weird, very small line up
from the Grizzies in the fourth quarter

871
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,400
of the preseason. Hopefully by calling
my shot, the Grizzles would in my

872
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,199
thirty five. And I will be
wrong. I fave that lineup. I

873
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,360
mine was a big lineup. And
I'm glad that you were Desmond at point

874
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,400
guard because I did too. I
have Desmond bainet Zaiyar, I'll die out,

875
00:54:52,519 --> 00:54:57,199
Jared Jackson Junior, and Brandon Clark. Let's just go super big with

876
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,760
Desmond Baine at the point work.
Well, that's that's part of it again.

877
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:01,760
When we started dreaming of like all
right, but they're moving on from

878
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:06,119
Tyas Jones because Zaire is gonna play
all two this year. It's just me

879
00:55:06,199 --> 00:55:08,400
a shooting guards and we're because we're
sizing up. We gotta get bigger.

880
00:55:08,679 --> 00:55:10,800
And I was, and I was
in I'm like, all right, I

881
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,639
think that works. Let's try it. Let's let's try to get bigger.

882
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,239
Of course, then no jaring.
Now everything is treated the other way where

883
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,639
it's like, oh, I guess
we're gonna play smaller now because we don't

884
00:55:20,679 --> 00:55:24,000
have enough players. To fill our
wing spots. You already alluded to this,

885
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:27,639
but they're over underset at forty eight
point five as we record this,

886
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,039
you're taking the over the under on
that man. So like a month ago,

887
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:35,519
I would I would have like been
like hard over. Maybe I've over

888
00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:38,280
analyzed it, and now I'm like, I'm like soft over a tiny over.

889
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,559
They do get, they get they
get the full compliment of games against

890
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:45,840
the Tankers. They get sixteen games
against the thunder Spurs, Jazz, and

891
00:55:46,039 --> 00:55:50,519
Rockets, And I am a little
wary of the Rockets, especially earlier in

892
00:55:50,519 --> 00:55:52,440
the year. They might be kind
of frisky, uh, not super fun

893
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,679
to play. But I think my
math is like, all right, what

894
00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:00,920
if we go thirteen and three against
those tanking teams, we only have to

895
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:06,159
go, like, what's that thirty
six and twenty nine against everybody else.

896
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,119
It's like, oh, we could
do that. Twenty nine seems easy.

897
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:13,000
So yeah, I think forty nine. If I had to bet, I

898
00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:15,840
would I would definitely take the Grizzlies
over, even though it's not as confident

899
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,880
as I once was. And the
whole thing about the Grizzlies too, is

900
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,199
like they have sort of made a
killing of just like we're just gonna beat

901
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,119
the teams that were supposed to beat. I think what they were twenty eight

902
00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:29,880
and eight against sub five hundred teams
last year. That feels right. Also,

903
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:35,320
like people still kind of discredit the
Grizzlies would understand like no one,

904
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,840
at no time last year did did
I think even I think, like the

905
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:42,239
Grizzlies are the second best team,
despite the fact that they were technically the

906
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:47,360
second best team. But like the
uh, the Grizzlies blue everyone out last

907
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:52,119
year. They had they had the
fourth most twenty and twenty five point wins

908
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:57,679
in NBA history first single season last
year, and like they just smokes teams

909
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:00,840
and like again, like we said, oh, John rants out, well,

910
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,559
how about we beat the seas by
forty John rans out? How about

911
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:07,559
we beat the thunder by seventy three? Like they they killed so many teams

912
00:57:07,639 --> 00:57:09,519
last year. Where I feel like
this team might just know something about the

913
00:57:09,559 --> 00:57:15,880
regular season. They might just have
this system in place where they understand,

914
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,760
hey man, you just plut pretty
solid, d push the pace. Have

915
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,599
a talented superstar guy, have perfect
role players, have these fringe I don't

916
00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:25,760
know if we want to call them
near all stars or Suball Stars and like

917
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:30,119
Baine and Jared Jackson junior, you
could beat teams. So we so like,

918
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:31,840
I think the regular season it's gonna
be all right. I think they're

919
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:36,079
gonna manage it fine. I think
Jared's coming back in like fifteen games and

920
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:38,079
so like telling me, you know, they're gonna be eight or nine games

921
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:43,039
worse. I know the West is
tougher, but I also think last year

922
00:57:43,079 --> 00:57:45,840
there weren't four teams in the West
who were actively trying to lose every game,

923
00:57:45,639 --> 00:57:50,599
you know, like the Lakers were
trying to win. Guys, they

924
00:57:50,599 --> 00:57:54,559
just could not win. Uh,
the Kings were desperately trying to make the

925
00:57:54,599 --> 00:57:58,199
play in. The Spurs weren't trying
to win, and they were winning.

926
00:57:58,239 --> 00:58:01,320
So it's like, yeah, I
do think there are regular Sason wins out

927
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,639
there to be had, and so
fourty eight and a half feels like,

928
00:58:04,679 --> 00:58:09,679
yeah, I'm again not overwhelmingly confident, but I can't imagine taking the under.

929
00:58:09,719 --> 00:58:14,800
So my final question is scaling ahead
to the playoffs, are there any

930
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,719
just specific teams that worry you the
most in the West, And if the

931
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:22,079
Grizzlies are actually in the thick again
of like the Upper echelon of the West.

932
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,960
I think the should they question is
yes, they should they, But

933
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:29,519
do you think they'd be willing to
actually make a mid season move that skews

934
00:58:29,559 --> 00:58:32,199
more win now than developmental flex.
Yeah, you gotta, you gotta think

935
00:58:32,239 --> 00:58:35,920
this is the year that they do
make him mid season move to bring in

936
00:58:36,039 --> 00:58:38,760
something. I mean, there's some
hope that like Dana Green will be healthy

937
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,800
in April, and honestly bringing in
bringing in if Danta Green is healthy for

938
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,679
the playoffs, if there was a
way to know that for sure. Suddenly

939
00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:47,920
that Melton trade I become like,
oh, okay, that seems fine.

940
00:58:49,039 --> 00:58:54,159
Like data Green's approven I mean,
he's Day Green. Hes like he's hits

941
00:58:54,199 --> 00:58:58,599
so many big time three pointers in
his career and he's still He's might he

942
00:58:58,719 --> 00:59:01,559
might be like one of the ten
best transition defensive guards like that the league

943
00:59:01,559 --> 00:59:05,480
has ever seen. He's a great
defensive guard. He's a great three indeed

944
00:59:05,559 --> 00:59:09,440
player, and he has the cause
seventy one percent career winning percentage like he

945
00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:14,480
has. He has a better career
winning percentage than Bill Russell. So,

946
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:16,639
like, I know, it's a
fun stat just to cherry pick, but

947
00:59:17,519 --> 00:59:20,760
uh, you know, I think
Danny green Is. He's a great player

948
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,000
to have, but I do think
it makes sense this year talking about those

949
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,239
no tis. I'm so backup point
guard lineups like Tias Jones has a big,

950
00:59:27,239 --> 00:59:30,159
old contract which could be used in
salary matching purposes. I would not

951
00:59:30,239 --> 00:59:35,360
be surprised at all if the Grizzlies
make a trade during this regular season just

952
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,039
to bring in something. I mean, like, I want some of these

953
00:59:39,079 --> 00:59:42,920
guys who didn't sign extensions, like
PJ. Washington would be a great fit

954
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,760
on this Grizzes team, not as
like A He's not like A. He's

955
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:50,719
maybe not even your closing lineup,
but he could be your eighth best player.

956
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,760
And he's He's an upgrade I think
over Jakla Ravia, and he fits

957
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,840
perfectly next to Jaron Dexon Junior.
He fits perfectly next to Brandon Clark.

958
00:59:57,119 --> 00:59:59,440
You know, I was surprised the
horness he didn't get something done with him

959
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:04,079
on extension. Maybe the Hornets would
want to kick it the caid further down

960
01:00:04,119 --> 01:00:07,639
the road for a rebuild. If
they decide, you know what, we're

961
01:00:07,639 --> 01:00:09,880
gonna be terrible. Maybe let's instead
of paying PJ. Washington, let's just

962
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,960
get a first round pick from the
Grizzlies, and you know, so something

963
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,480
like that. I could see them
also trading just for veteran help for guys

964
01:00:17,519 --> 01:00:23,519
on aging players who aren't necessarily helping
their their teams right now, or if

965
01:00:23,559 --> 01:00:29,400
you have a weird whatever it is, if Jalen Brown decides he wants out

966
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:34,280
of Boston, if something goes sideways, you're prepared. You're prepared to trade

967
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:38,199
the Danny Green salary plus a tiest
Joan's salary for and future first round picks.

968
01:00:38,199 --> 01:00:40,239
You have, you own all your
first round picks. You also have

969
01:00:40,679 --> 01:00:45,239
the Warriors twenty twenty four pick in
the bag. So like, it wouldn't

970
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,519
be surprising at all if the Grizzlies
make a move to bolster their roster as

971
01:00:49,679 --> 01:00:52,440
in a win now proposition this season, which is another reason, like I

972
01:00:53,159 --> 01:00:58,159
have a hard time imagining the under
because the thing is going pretty bad.

973
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,119
I think they still would be like, yeah, let's bring it, and

974
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,159
I don't know so and so let's
bring it. They might not even be

975
01:01:04,159 --> 01:01:07,559
first round picks. Let's bring in
Josh Richardson and while he's erbiac, you

976
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:09,400
know, for this team, actually, yeah, a great fit for the

977
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,159
team, especially if you've moved on
for Tias Jones, I like Tias,

978
01:01:13,199 --> 01:01:15,199
I'm not trying to I'm not trying
to get him out the door. Then

979
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,079
you just have no math works.
It's the way the salaries. We got

980
01:01:17,159 --> 01:01:20,280
a match salaries. That's the only
reason. But if that's the move,

981
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,400
you have no backup point guard after
that, Like Tias Jones, it's just

982
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:27,000
Desmond Bade, Well, Desmond Baine
and in this situation, Josh, we're

983
01:01:27,039 --> 01:01:30,599
just in. He could dribble,
you know, zi Zire could dribble a

984
01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:35,679
little bit. We know point guards
are overrated. John isn't John doesn't even

985
01:01:35,719 --> 01:01:38,400
bring the ball the court half the
time. This is get rebounds and they

986
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:43,280
just dribble, get a rebound,
dribble. Sante is actually pretty good at

987
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,039
grabbing a rebound. Just dribble off
the court. I honestly think like Steven

988
01:01:46,039 --> 01:01:50,039
Adams and Jaron are the worst at
it. Every everyone else is like,

989
01:01:50,079 --> 01:01:52,719
you get the rebound, you just
go like that's the job. That is

990
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,719
the job assignment for the Grizzlies.
You gotta deep. It's some rebound.

991
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:59,079
You don't look for your point guard. This is not college basketball, high

992
01:01:59,079 --> 01:02:02,920
school basketball, where like the point
the center chins the basketball and then hands

993
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,039
it off to the point ord of
the back court. No, you get

994
01:02:06,039 --> 01:02:08,239
that rebound. Your job as a
Memphis Grizzly is to get it across half

995
01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:10,800
court. Just get it and go. And so I think, you know,

996
01:02:12,039 --> 01:02:15,239
maybe it devalues the traditional position of
a point guard, but it does

997
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:16,920
give you options if if a trade
comes up and you feel like, you

998
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,519
know, maybe you need to trade
to one of your backups. Is there

999
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:23,599
anything I haven't asked you that you
think needs to be touched upon before let

1000
01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:28,719
you go? No, man,
I think we did. You mentioned the

1001
01:02:28,719 --> 01:02:30,519
Brandon Clark extension. There's a lot
to ask about with this team. I

1002
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:32,719
went over an hour. I apologize. I didn't want to take so much.

1003
01:02:32,719 --> 01:02:36,199
Oh, you're fine. I mean
the Brandon Clark extension, it makes

1004
01:02:36,239 --> 01:02:38,000
sense. I mean it's you know, Biggs don't make that much. I

1005
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,519
I you know, relatively, you
know you can you can lock in a

1006
01:02:40,519 --> 01:02:44,199
guy who can It is part of
my preferred closing lineup, a guy who's

1007
01:02:44,239 --> 01:02:47,360
a perfect fit with your near all
star front court guy and Jared Jackson Junior.

1008
01:02:47,519 --> 01:02:51,679
And you can get him for you
know, thirteen million year on average.

1009
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,599
Yeah, it seems like a no
brainer to not take that to free

1010
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:57,119
agency. Just go and get that
locked up. You already locked up Steven

1011
01:02:57,119 --> 01:03:00,039
Adams, so you probably weren't going
to be a free agent player. So

1012
01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:01,880
yeah, keep your good players.
I'm on board. It seemed like a

1013
01:03:02,119 --> 01:03:06,719
kind of a kind of a no
brainer, Keith. In case anyone's keep

1014
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:07,719
the intro. You're able to tell
our listeners where they can find you and

1015
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:13,079
all the fantastic work that you do. Yeah, listen to Fast Break Breakfast.

1016
01:03:13,199 --> 01:03:16,639
It's a NBA podcast for serious NBA
fans. It's a very much not

1017
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:21,360
serious listen to Gritz and Grinds if
you're a Gristmas fan. We go hardcore

1018
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,920
on the stats and explaining why it's
hard to replace two three pointers made per

1019
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:30,639
game just by increasing volume for the
guys who were already there. So you

1020
01:03:30,639 --> 01:03:32,760
know that kind of thing, that
nitty gritty, uh you find that enjoyable.

1021
01:03:34,039 --> 01:03:36,199
Check me out and you can follow
me on Twitter at Fast break Break.

1022
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,519
I echo the strongest of endorsements for
Keith. He's also at someone who's

1023
01:03:39,519 --> 01:03:43,280
had to do a lot of solo
podcasts over the beast few months. I

1024
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,119
know you've done them, and you
do a fantastic job of like on the

1025
01:03:45,159 --> 01:03:49,679
grits and grinds when those are when
those have been solo. So thank you

1026
01:03:49,719 --> 01:03:51,760
so much for coming, Thank you
so much for coming on. As you

1027
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,000
know by now, I will be
spamming your d ms in the future.

1028
01:03:53,719 --> 01:03:55,480
Sounds great, Dan, always a
play