1 00:00:15,279 --> 00:00:21,679 What is kraklacin fellow Thermonuclear A efforts. I am a thoroughly hungry Dan Favalley, 2 00:00:21,679 --> 00:00:24,199 and we'll probably be saying that a lot over the next month around these 3 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:31,640 parts. Joined by, as always, my certified fantabulous Thermonuclear AF podcast hosts 4 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:37,679 mister Grant Hughes, we are here to talk about every NBA team's holiday wish 5 00:00:37,679 --> 00:00:42,240 list in advance of or because we're in the midst of the holiday season. 6 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,960 Very quick reminders, please subscribe if you have not already, hit the sub 7 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,359 button on YouTube, like, comment on our videos, share our content. 8 00:00:49,759 --> 00:00:54,280 You can subscribe to us on Apple and Spotify. We beg you to juice 9 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,960 up our ratings on both platforms. Five star ratings. 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Even when Grant 19 00:01:30,599 --> 00:01:33,840 and I aren't responding to as many messages as we typically do, it does 20 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,879 mean the world that you're rocking with us here, which quietly I didn't mention 21 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,560 this because I didn't have time to do something special. Hardware knocks and they're 22 00:01:41,599 --> 00:01:44,519 not all up because of where it started, like there might be some deep 23 00:01:44,879 --> 00:01:48,439 like there might be some deep state episodes buried, like at the beginning that 24 00:01:48,439 --> 00:01:51,840 we're only on YouTube. Hardward Knox is more than one thousand episodes old. 25 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,680 Oh my god, that's so many episodes, and it's very bad that we 26 00:01:56,719 --> 00:02:00,879 only have three thousand YouTube subscribers, one thousand episodes with three thousand you tube 27 00:02:00,879 --> 00:02:04,959 subscribers. But we're here. We love you all. Thank you for being 28 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,959 with us. Grant, how the heck are you doing? I'm just blown 29 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,639 away that. I mean, I don't know how many I've been on, 30 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:15,479 probably not one hundred, but oh you've been on you think maybe it's pertundred, 31 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,039 but a thousand episodes. That's you've been on the best hundred. Yeah, 32 00:02:20,159 --> 00:02:23,039 right, well that I knew, Uh yeah, all the top one 33 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:28,479 if we ranked them, just I'm on every last month, just one through 34 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,479 ninety nine. Uh, and then Adam might be on one in there. 35 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,639 Maybe I don't know, somewhere in the eighties. Maybe the ones that will 36 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,240 be at the bottom will be the ones I record by myself, those are 37 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,759 my least favorite episodes every single time. I mean, that's true. You 38 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,400 do you do juice the juice the total numbers by doing the occasional twenty two 39 00:02:46,439 --> 00:02:51,080 minute Draymond Green soliloquy. So but I mean, hey, you're gonna say 40 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,039 you do juice the numbers by doing the team look aheads every year. I'm 41 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:58,400 gonna flip you off for saying that. No, that is that is a 42 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,599 the only thing that's I'm trying to think how to frame that. That's the 43 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,080 only thing that's juicing is your path to an early grave. Because of the 44 00:03:05,439 --> 00:03:08,599 stress and the difficulty of doing those. Yeah, I mean, we got 45 00:03:08,599 --> 00:03:12,000 to get rid of those. If we're still about like, I got to 46 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,879 get rid of those because I just don't do anything for us. We should 47 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,240 do them in the format we're gonna undertake today and that we did last week 48 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,080 lightning round it. We're lightning rounding this thing, which is just you know, 49 00:03:24,439 --> 00:03:29,599 really is a testament to well, you know, it's really an indictment 50 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:36,120 of our long windedness and our other because they're not really that much less informative 51 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,800 than when we spend like twenty minutes per teen doesn't seem like to me. 52 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,919 I even do an like the eight to nine minute deep dives per team, 53 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,520 But those will come back because just you and I have worked on some stuff 54 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,280 and we might as well collab on it for the podcast as well. Look, 55 00:03:50,319 --> 00:03:53,520 this is topical. Christmas is right around the corner. Yeah, I 56 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,680 before we do, we'll do two minutes per team on average, so I 57 00:03:55,719 --> 00:04:00,240 have the timer here to keep us paced. How did you approach this as 58 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,080 because I wanted to do and I know you wanted to differentiate from when we 59 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:08,319 talked about every team's biggest need heading into the trade deadline. I kind of 60 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:13,680 try to approach it from a fans perspective of like what they should wish for, 61 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,240 but also the team should wish for, and there's definitely overlap, like 62 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,959 some of the stuff you did for the trade deadline because I had so I 63 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,120 spearheaded the West, you spearheaded the east. We we like, that's what 64 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,839 we're doing for this podcast. We flip flop for the previous one. I 65 00:04:25,879 --> 00:04:28,319 try to approach it that way, and if there was an instance where I 66 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,800 was like, it should probably be the same thing, but I'm not going 67 00:04:30,879 --> 00:04:33,439 to make it the same thing. I switched it up. I'll pull back 68 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:39,600 the curtain. I think basically my approach to stuff like this a lot of 69 00:04:39,639 --> 00:04:46,480 the time is how do I package an overarching thought about this team that I 70 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:50,759 have that I maybe haven't articulated to fit the conceit of the assignment. So 71 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:56,079 like, yeah, these are wish lists, So I'm gonna frame it as 72 00:04:56,879 --> 00:05:00,040 the maybe maybe maybe the thing I want to talk about is how the this 73 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,000 team should be wishing for a three and D forward or whatever. That's the 74 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:08,519 case sometimes, but other times it's like the Bulls need clarity or something like 75 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,240 that. I'd like to talk about that, so it still like fits into 76 00:05:11,319 --> 00:05:14,560 the this is what I guess the fan base perspective is a good way to 77 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,800 think about it, Like what should you what? What do you hope your 78 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,600 team is like? Seeking or what what does your team? What should your 79 00:05:20,639 --> 00:05:25,240 team want to get? You know, under this this sort of setup. 80 00:05:25,519 --> 00:05:29,720 But we're also authoritarians and so we're we're approaching it as this is what you 81 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,000 should want. We're not trying to guess what you actually want. Yeah. 82 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,560 Really, this podcast, all thousand episodes have been leading up to us just 83 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:41,560 admitting our affinity for fascism and just wanting to tell people what they should want. 84 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,800 So that might get I don't know, that might gain us some good 85 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,600 Facebook right now. Yeah, we could. We could definitely trend the algorithm 86 00:05:47,639 --> 00:05:51,639 does. Maybe that's a problem. We haven't had enough authoritarian talk to really 87 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,959 catch the attention of the algorithm. That's very quickly. You want to where 88 00:05:55,959 --> 00:05:58,399 I thought you were going with your explainer when you said I'll pull back the 89 00:05:58,439 --> 00:06:00,839 curtain. I tried to figure out how to get every team and I thought 90 00:06:00,879 --> 00:06:08,040 you were gonna say, O, that would be a fun Uh we should 91 00:06:08,079 --> 00:06:12,759 just at some point would you listen to let us know in the comments or 92 00:06:12,759 --> 00:06:15,279 just would you listen to a podcast where we pick one trade target and what 93 00:06:15,319 --> 00:06:19,079 would every NBA team give up the trade for Oganobi? You know what, 94 00:06:19,319 --> 00:06:24,839 we just really stepped on what should be the April first episode of this podcast. 95 00:06:25,079 --> 00:06:28,800 Like just in April Fools, it's like, Hey, we're gonna do 96 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,800 a deep dive on every team's trade needs, and then we just do all 97 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:35,680 thirty teams need ogob April first is so weird. I guess some team seasons 98 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,000 are like kind of over by that point, but the regular season is still 99 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,639 going on and the trade deadlines passed, so I think they catch on. 100 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,920 Maybe I don't know. We can frame it as free agency every team's top 101 00:06:45,959 --> 00:06:49,639 free agent target. Yeah, we should start thinking now about what our April 102 00:06:49,639 --> 00:06:54,319 Fools pod will be, although well we should probably we should cut this, 103 00:06:54,439 --> 00:06:58,120 cut this. We don't want anyone to know what we're gonna do. Uh, 104 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,360 So we'll start Grant and I will just be doing the teams that we 105 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,319 were tasked with handling. We're gooda because we're we're trying to live on the 106 00:07:03,439 --> 00:07:08,040 edge here. We're gonna go in reverse alphabetical order. How exciting is that? 107 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,199 But we also have our slideshow to go off of, so we hopefully 108 00:07:12,199 --> 00:07:15,560 won't screw it up. I'm actually just gonna read my first couple of paragraphs 109 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,600 because I was happy with them for the Washington Wizards. What they're the top. 110 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,399 It's not the top of their wish list. Their wishless item is more 111 00:07:23,399 --> 00:07:27,199 fireworks. The Bradley Beal trade, which triggered abroad and long overdue tear down. 112 00:07:27,199 --> 00:07:30,079 I'm not gonna do this for everyone, meant the Washington Wizards. We're 113 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,000 gonna lose a ton of games this season. Failure wasn't just the expectation. 114 00:07:32,079 --> 00:07:35,240 It was the draft pick focused, rebuild juicing goal. It would have been 115 00:07:35,279 --> 00:07:39,759 nice if Washington could have racked up l's in an entertaining way, though that 116 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,399 has just not been the case. This team is not good. They're not 117 00:07:42,439 --> 00:07:45,839 good in a super fun way. Jordan Poole's falling down a lot. That's 118 00:07:45,839 --> 00:07:48,560 interesting. Sometimes they throw alliups to each other, him and Kyle Kuzma off 119 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:54,199 the backboard. That's cool too. But outside of bilaal Kolabali, who we 120 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,240 are both firmly in the bag for, this has just not been like an 121 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:03,319 exciting Oh, Kuzma has got forty and Pool's got forty and the Wizards are 122 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,720 still down by forty. Like, it hasn't been that kind of season. 123 00:08:07,279 --> 00:08:11,600 So whatever form that takes, I just wish that the rebuild great needed to 124 00:08:11,639 --> 00:08:16,720 do it. I thought maybe that this season would be kind of fun in 125 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,160 a like nobody cares, we're doing the right thing. We can lose badly 126 00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:22,759 and still have some entertaining basketball be played. It just hasn't been that. 127 00:08:22,879 --> 00:08:26,399 So they need some fireworks. They need Jordan Poole to kind of find his 128 00:08:26,519 --> 00:08:30,680 form of a couple of years ago. They need Coolibalay to just play a 129 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,639 ton and keep doing amazing athletic stuff every so often to just make the product 130 00:08:35,639 --> 00:08:39,960 a little more exciting. Because the the Els have been coming and will continue 131 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,759 to come. Will they come at Pistons level though? Is the real real 132 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,840 question. I will say, because we have like thirty seconds left on them, 133 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:50,720 we are going to do every team's biggest regret from the last calendar years 134 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,279 we get into the new year, is there's trading for Like you don't want 135 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,480 to undo the restart of the rebuild, but is trading for Jordan Pool up 136 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,799 there? Like wouldn't you have rather even if you had to buy out CP 137 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:03,159 three or try to keep him for like part of the season and flip him 138 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,120 to a contender. Yeah, I mean I thought that that was gonna be 139 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:11,919 one. I maybe I'm trying to think, like I still haven't done all 140 00:09:11,919 --> 00:09:15,120 the research, Like, did they do the Beal extension in twenty twenty three? 141 00:09:15,159 --> 00:09:18,840 I don't think so, I think twenty two. Yeah. Okay, 142 00:09:18,879 --> 00:09:22,480 So, like I said, haven't done all the research. But yeah, 143 00:09:22,519 --> 00:09:26,960 it might be. It might be just not handling the Chris Paul acquisition slash 144 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,840 slash flip quite the right way. But that's that's gonna be another podcast to 145 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:35,240 pull back the curtain a little more. Let's see Utah Jazz for you. 146 00:09:35,919 --> 00:09:39,200 Yes, so I have veteran floor general. I think you could probably also 147 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,759 go a little bit with clarity here because you have all these names in the 148 00:09:43,759 --> 00:09:46,759 trade rumor mill, and I think having veterans around is fine, but the 149 00:09:46,799 --> 00:09:48,799 lowry market and stuff, specifically, if you're actually thinking about trading him or 150 00:09:48,799 --> 00:09:52,919 don't want to pay him, let's move on and it actually start. But 151 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,879 I don't think they want to move on from him, so that's why I 152 00:09:54,879 --> 00:09:58,080 didn't pick that. I think Kiante George is going to be really good. 153 00:09:58,279 --> 00:10:01,559 He's injured right now, but he showed no talked about his passing and just 154 00:10:01,919 --> 00:10:05,320 game management like the way that he's displayed it in the NBA when he was 155 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,159 coming out of the draft. Clearly there's still bottom five offense, though they've 156 00:10:09,159 --> 00:10:13,639 had some right moments with him. Jordan Clarson is your second best passer. 157 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,679 That is, he's actually made some leaps when he's been healthy. Dealing with 158 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,279 a th issue right now, and we've gotten these electric performances sometimes from Tylon 159 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,000 Horton, Tucker or Colin Sexton. Go out there, get a veteran. 160 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,000 I'm not saying it needs to be someone who's a long term piece, but 161 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,080 I'm not opposed to this team. We talked about this previously with them. 162 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,559 Why don't you look at Jean Deay Murray or if you really want to like 163 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,279 Tias Jones as just some sort of a step stop gap. I think that 164 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,440 their offense needs it because it helps streamline the development of Okay, we know 165 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:43,200 what Larry market it is, but we could, you know, pull some 166 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,240 of the weight off Caante's shoulders, pull some of the weight off if Clarson's 167 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,759 still around, make life easier on Walker Tesler, maybe someone who does a 168 00:10:50,759 --> 00:10:54,519 better job sorting through our front court rotation. And also I have to presume 169 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,519 Taylor Hendrix is going to get more playing time at some point, and so 170 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:01,440 I just want to see them get a more veteran offensive steward and unlike a 171 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,879 team where if it's the Spurs, I know they have Wemby, I wouldn't 172 00:11:03,879 --> 00:11:05,919 be like, go trade for well, they already had to Jean say Murray, 173 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,039 but don't go trade for this veteran point guard. I'm okay because the 174 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,200 Jazz have so many extra First, if someone becomes available that isn't really on 175 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:18,879 their timeline but helps optimize their young talent. I'm all for them just getting 176 00:11:18,879 --> 00:11:22,799 after it. Yeah, I agree, just the the underlying things don't get 177 00:11:22,799 --> 00:11:24,600 in the way of George. You know, it doesn't have to be a 178 00:11:24,639 --> 00:11:28,120 long term it's just yeah, I agree. I think it's just someone to 179 00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:31,720 just organize it because like to be Tray young, like that type of ball 180 00:11:31,759 --> 00:11:33,480 dominant, not at all, not at all, just you know, I 181 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:37,879 mean like Mike Conley, Like I mean, Mike Conley's even a higher end 182 00:11:37,879 --> 00:11:41,200 guy than they need. I'm joking because he was there. What about someone 183 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,000 I don't know why he's on Maybe one of the best based off the way 184 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,639 he's playing. Like Kobe White, Oh my god. Maybe Kobe White's just 185 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,879 kind of might is he just a keeper now for the bulls. That's what 186 00:11:50,879 --> 00:11:54,799 I'm saying. It's just like that's maybe unrealistic, so like it could they 187 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,600 could literally run the gamut of point guard targets. Yeah, so I got 188 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:03,200 the Toronto Raptors next. It's kind of the same position essentially, So you 189 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,399 could go a couple different ways. I think the emergence of Scottie Barnes as 190 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,799 someone that you feel a little bit you know, increasingly good, increasingly I 191 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:18,759 guess confident in as someone who can have the ball make some decisions with it. 192 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:20,600 It gives you this leeway. This is kind of a sort of loose 193 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:24,399 relationship with what the Magic have with Benkaro and Wagner. Is like you're gonna 194 00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:28,000 get a lot of your shock creation there, so that opens up opportunities at 195 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,399 the point so you don't need like a pick and roll spammer at that spot. 196 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,360 Dennis Shruder has been a good acquisition, I think, but I would 197 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,519 like someone that, in addition to being able to guard, you know, 198 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,960 maybe more than just the point guard spot, is gonna get threes up without 199 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:46,919 hesitation and scare the defense. Maybe run a second side pick and roll attack 200 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,840 weeks that you don't need just like the the Jazz need a floor general the 201 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,039 Raptors, that's not what they should be after because I think you can get 202 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,039 some playmaking from other positions. So like again, de Jontay Murray, this 203 00:12:58,159 --> 00:13:01,440 version of Johntay Murray that's like an offense first player. Now I think makes 204 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,960 sense there. But you could just give me, give me anyone that can 205 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,960 play the combo guard spot that isn't necessarily a top option like facilitator, but 206 00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:13,159 can do that a little bit. But I think as much as anything will 207 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:18,559 be like a high volume you know, three point shooter that can spread the 208 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,960 floor around like this weird or forwards? Are the playmakers kind of set up? 209 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,080 Would you be willing to give up stuff to get that player or do 210 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,720 you want it as part of the what we just traded Siakam or og and 211 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:33,840 this is yeah, I mean that's the thing, like if you because some 212 00:13:33,919 --> 00:13:39,200 of some of what the wish list item depends on is the sort of odd 213 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:41,919 forward heavy construction of the rest of the roster. So it's like, if 214 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,200 you're going for de Jontay Murray, that's probably gonna have to be Siakam right, 215 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,840 or I mean I would assume something like that Anonobe is the easier fit, 216 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,279 But I don't know. I don't know how have we ever settled on, 217 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,519 like what Siakam's market is. If you say, hey, he hey, 218 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:01,080 Hawks, give us Murray in a package Foram, Like, is that 219 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,840 just not gonna happen? That shouldn't be a deal breaker for them, because 220 00:14:03,879 --> 00:14:07,000 how many ball dominant players do you do you want? Yeah? Right, 221 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,320 No, I don't know. I just think I'm trying to think who else. 222 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,559 I had a couple other lower end options, like Malcolm Brogden would be 223 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,679 someone I don't know if you get the three point volume there, but the 224 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,159 combo guard size Terry Rogier or Spencer Dinwiddie so you just got here would be 225 00:14:20,159 --> 00:14:24,480 a really good one. That that's like a stop gappy a little bit, 226 00:14:24,519 --> 00:14:26,360 I guess, but that you know, that type of player you don't need. 227 00:14:26,919 --> 00:14:30,960 I'm trying to think of who's likely to they don't even really exist anymore. 228 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,639 Is the pick and roll spamming point guard you don't need, like twenty 229 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:35,840 fourteen Chris Paul, Like, you don't need that kind of type of player. 230 00:14:37,639 --> 00:14:41,279 We are odd to the San Antonio Spurs and I have I don't know 231 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:46,559 if you've seen this already, but Trey Jones starts or or the acquisition of 232 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,000 a primary initiator, I don't. I understand what the Spurs are trying to 233 00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:54,039 do with experimenting, and there's value in that, but I think you need 234 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,399 to focus on optimizing your most important player, especially when you know that Devin 235 00:14:56,399 --> 00:15:01,639 Missell is just gonna get and make his tough shots. The lineup you're running 236 00:15:01,639 --> 00:15:05,799 out now with Malachi Brandham in the starting five and Wemby is your center, 237 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,960 I like the idea of Wemby is your starting center, Like you still just 238 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,240 don't have enough from scratch creation in the half court. And just also I'm 239 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:16,600 not saying it needs to be Trey Jones, but like Victor Wembenyama's effective field 240 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,799 goal percentage improves by about ten points with Trey Jones on the court, and 241 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,799 he's shooting like sixty percent on twos versus forty six percent on twos. Like 242 00:15:24,879 --> 00:15:30,879 that's the discrepancy there, that's fucking wild. So start Trey Jones, or 243 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:35,000 go out there and trade for for Tias Jones. Don't reacquire Jente Murray, 244 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,240 but like, go get another just someone who could kind of sort of organize 245 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,039 your offense, Like it needs to be someone better than a Javon Carter who's 246 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,879 like more of a playmaker there. But like let's just get a name in 247 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,840 there, and it doesn't have to be like I don't think if you need 248 00:15:50,919 --> 00:15:54,200 to give up a like maybe you have to go that fake Charlotte first to 249 00:15:54,279 --> 00:15:56,200 get them. They will be someone out there. But I think you can 250 00:15:56,279 --> 00:16:00,080 look at in that realm and the Spurs need it to optimize their most important 251 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,559 player. Again, if they're just against for some reason, like why not 252 00:16:04,679 --> 00:16:07,879 just take a shot then on Killian Hayes, Like just at least prove to 253 00:16:07,919 --> 00:16:12,600 me that you're trying to put someone who plays the point guard spot in there. 254 00:16:12,759 --> 00:16:17,039 And even like if Montey Morris gets healthy in Detroit, I'd like to 255 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,840 see them do something like that. The point guard thing with the Spurs, 256 00:16:21,519 --> 00:16:23,759 Like I think we were both pretty on board with like let's what the hell, 257 00:16:23,879 --> 00:16:27,519 let's try Jeremy Son at the point what you got to lose And then 258 00:16:27,639 --> 00:16:33,480 like while acknowledging people that were saying, yeah, but it's kind of getting 259 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,799 in the way of the development of like literally everyone else that is on the 260 00:16:36,799 --> 00:16:41,279 floor at the same time. Right now, it feels almost like like what 261 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:44,960 is the thinking, Like why, well, like why why mess around to 262 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,759 this degree with with especially with respect to wimbin Yama, who, like you've 263 00:16:48,879 --> 00:16:52,240 you've cited the numbers, like it's not just like a theoretical thing that life 264 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:53,919 gets easier for him than others when you have a real point guard on the 265 00:16:53,919 --> 00:16:59,320 floor. It's getting strange. I don't have a great explanation for it. 266 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,360 Our next team up is the Sacramento Kings, which is also me, wow, 267 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,759 we need to pace it up here, really screwing up already, Shaker 268 00:17:06,039 --> 00:17:10,279 all right, it's wing defense or at least no Zach Lavine trade. I 269 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,680 saw it. Kings fans gave pushback to the wing defense argument because you have 270 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:17,400 Keegan Murray. That's fine. You need someone else other than Keegan Murray, 271 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,559 even someone else other than the Aaron Fox who's defended well this year. I 272 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:23,599 think that this is we've talked about the og Anobi team, but they could 273 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:27,680 go after a A. J. Shawn Taate, like that type of player 274 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:33,640 where it doesn't need to be a Capslock star or someone who's star adjacent, 275 00:17:33,759 --> 00:17:36,400 Like you can look at that and I think they would make a meaningful difference. 276 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,039 Maybe if it's even someone who maybe don't you're not closing games with them, 277 00:17:40,079 --> 00:17:44,119 which is someone you're using situationally, situationally to improve your first forty three 278 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,319 minutes of basketball, you go thermonuclear with your offense to close. I will 279 00:17:48,319 --> 00:17:49,559 say, though, if you're not going to go out and acquire a wing 280 00:17:49,599 --> 00:17:52,640 defender, do not go out and acquire Zach Lvine or even passcal Siakam. 281 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,720 I don't want to see someone who doesn't stretch the floor consistently in the front 282 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,480 court with some bonus. And I also don't want to see you give up 283 00:17:59,519 --> 00:18:03,839 assets for someone like Zack Lavine doesn't address your biggest need, and then it 284 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,680 cost you stuff that you could have then used to try and address that biggest 285 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,359 need later on. Yeah, Zach Lavine, Ain't it not for this team? 286 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,640 Heavy? You've got so many West teams in a row here. Yeah, 287 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,400 time stamping, this is gonna be a bear. Try to just have 288 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,839 to work off memory. The Portland Trailblazers, so for them, this one's 289 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,279 kind of tough, But I think they need to clear the runway for the 290 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:32,519 kids now that they're sort of healthier. I think we're seeing that there's going 291 00:18:32,599 --> 00:18:34,200 to be times where I don't know if it's an issue of, well, 292 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,480 this is how Joe Cronin built the roster, or Chauncey Billups just isn't getting 293 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,839 the message from the front office, like we shouldn't see Malcolm Brogden playing more 294 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,839 minutes than Scoot Henderson maybe ever, and when you are playing Malcolm Brogden, 295 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:52,359 we've seen kind of Shadan Sharp's usage and utility and offensive role fluctuate. I'm 296 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:55,319 Jeremy Grant has played really well for them, and I'm mostly fine with what 297 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,359 he's doing. But when you have the sum of it being well, Jeremy 298 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:02,119 Grant is getting minutes and we're still gonna DeAndre Ay and since Robert Williams the 299 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,000 third is injured, we don't really have a long term center to evaluate unless 300 00:19:04,039 --> 00:19:07,880 you think Dwop Wreath is that kind of answer. I just need to see 301 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,960 you clear the deck more specifically for Scoot Henderson and Shadon Sharp. That comes 302 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,920 back to Brogden, but could also involve Jeremy Grant a little bit if you're 303 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:21,000 not going to move Brogden. And so I don't know who to blame for 304 00:19:21,079 --> 00:19:23,920 this, but I do think that that fourth quarter we saw against Golden State 305 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:30,000 on December seventeenth typifies the problem where Brogden's playing the entire corner and too much 306 00:19:30,079 --> 00:19:33,480 is just running sort of through him, and he again even Grant on certain 307 00:19:33,559 --> 00:19:37,599 nights. I'd like to see them just clear the runway more for Scoot and 308 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:44,640 Sharp specifically nothing. I think you're right, it's always great when you're when 309 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,480 you're in agreement. Our next team up is the Phoenix Suns. Actual Big 310 00:19:49,519 --> 00:19:53,160 three minutes would be nice, and maybe a few fewer turnovers because they are 311 00:19:53,519 --> 00:19:57,200 twenty fourth in turnover rate and only the Utah Jazz turn the ball over more 312 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,200 in fourth quarters. Now, I think this it comes back to two issues. 313 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:03,720 Do they have an offensive organizer that you trust to bring that turnover rate 314 00:20:03,759 --> 00:20:07,519 down? Yes, the answer is Devin Booker, even if he's not having 315 00:20:07,519 --> 00:20:11,240 some of his best performances. I also think just getting Bradley Beal back having 316 00:20:11,319 --> 00:20:14,799 the Big three simplifies your decision making tree when you look at some of the 317 00:20:14,799 --> 00:20:18,200 turnovers that have been committed by their big men their lower usage wings, just 318 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,960 having Bradley Beal available takes the ball out of their hands for certain amounts of 319 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,079 time or possessions. And we've already mentioned this. The Big Three is played 320 00:20:27,079 --> 00:20:32,640 twenty four minutes together across two appearances. That's not going to change before twenty 321 00:20:32,759 --> 00:20:37,559 twenty four because the Bradley Beal back injury. And I still have confidence in 322 00:20:37,599 --> 00:20:40,119 this team when you get into their lineup data and just based off kind of 323 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,759 what we've seen in the very sparing minutes with all three on the court, 324 00:20:44,279 --> 00:20:48,319 they will be fine. You need them all to be healthy, and that's 325 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,960 not really a guarantee at this point. So you need to wish that it 326 00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:55,440 will be come playoff time because you don't honestly, you don't have the trade 327 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,400 ammo to go out there and make a meaningful acquisition. Could you get a 328 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,240 backup big? Could you get another wing? I like the fact that Suns 329 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,720 fans are just lusting after Sadik Bay and it's kind of like, all right, 330 00:21:04,759 --> 00:21:07,240 so Debay's not it, guys, Like it's just it's not, you 331 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,839 know, like the deep Bays. Not if you think he's an upgrade over 332 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,839 nas or Josha koge I get it, Like, it's not. He's not 333 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:17,079 the answer. All right, I'm gonna power us through to the six or 334 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,920 se of some time to go back in timestamp. If you need to actually 335 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,759 have kind of two items one I one I actually wrote about and one I 336 00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:27,759 thought of more recently. Uh when I heard the so the the afterthought is 337 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:33,039 they need more double agents. Because I heard someone explain, I'm sorry, 338 00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:38,200 I forget who it was. This idea that Nick Nurse's raptors relentlessly double joyl 339 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,920 Embiid and gave him just hell he was, you know, turned it over. 340 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,559 That was always regarded as the weakest part of his game. And now 341 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:47,640 that Nick Nurse is the head coach of the Philadelphia seventy six ers, for 342 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:52,000 whom Joel Embid plays, he's handling double teams exceptionally well relative to how he 343 00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:53,720 used to, and he's averaging your career high and assists. So like they 344 00:21:53,759 --> 00:21:57,039 brought over the coach that gave him the hardest time, and they just it's 345 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,799 like, well, so, uh, here's that's what I used to do. 346 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,279 Here's how you can combat that, And it's sort of like they fixed 347 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,319 Joel Andbiad's biggest weakness. Counterpoint. They did try doing that once with Al 348 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,440 Horford, and it didn't go so well, that's true, so you gotta 349 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,640 be careful which double agents you pick. But the other the broader thing is 350 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,559 they just they're they're wishless. Should have better market conditions on it, because 351 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,599 this is a team, Darryl Morey said, and I'm quoting. What we're 352 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,599 attempting to do is have the best team possible this year, but also have 353 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,000 the ability that if we get into next season situation to be very unique, 354 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,279 to be a very unique team with the most cap space of a team that's 355 00:22:30,319 --> 00:22:33,599 as good as us. That was comments game like over the summer talking about 356 00:22:33,599 --> 00:22:36,599 the James Harden trade. This is a team with fifty five million in cap 357 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,359 space, legitimate trade assets, and like Zach Lavine's available, so cool, 358 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,640 and you know you could go for og and and Obi, Pascal Siakam, 359 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,000 all the usual suspects, or you could just sign those raptors double agents. 360 00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:49,960 Though, like, don't you kind of want to say it might be too 361 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,000 many double agents? That's true if you like, is it like negative numbers 362 00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:56,799 where they cancel each other out or become poled. Oh I've been just like, 363 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,519 if you want all these double agents, should they come from separate teams 364 00:22:59,519 --> 00:23:03,119 so that you have different intel. I see broaden the broaden the this this 365 00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:07,720 scope of your double agents that you know what. That's why that's why I'm 366 00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:10,319 glad I podcast with you, because you come up with things I don't think 367 00:23:10,319 --> 00:23:15,559 of. Uh, Basically, it's tricky now because the Sixers have like all 368 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:21,359 of the various avenues to improvement that Darryl Morey wanted and like kind of miraculously 369 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,279 was able to accumulate. And it's like the guys that they could go get 370 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,240 right now just don't feel like a big enough difference maker to justify the effort 371 00:23:29,319 --> 00:23:33,319 or the expenditure. And they also don't want to compromise long term cap space. 372 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,920 They don't want to have to give up a bunch. So I just 373 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:40,079 wish they should wish that there were more options on the market to go get 374 00:23:40,079 --> 00:23:44,319 that third star or to make the move that could really put the Sixers from 375 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,559 like the one A tier of contenders into just the full on, you know, 376 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,119 upper level. I'm with you. I think that's a great need for 377 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,000 them. It's just I don't know who the player is. If I even 378 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,319 said I wish this player was available for them, that's the thing I want 379 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,960 to see them I want to see them get with like Kawhi and Paul George 380 00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:03,359 over the summer. Would be really funny. If those two don't sign an 381 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,440 extension, that's right, I'd just say it should be og Anobi and move 382 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,000 on, since that's always the answer. So I have the Orlando Magic next 383 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,480 three point shooting. This is this team We've I talked a little bit about 384 00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:18,119 them in the context of the Raptors, Like the fours do a lot of 385 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,599 the playmaking, which means your guards really kind of a lot of time just 386 00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:26,160 need to space the floor and be threats. They're dead last as a team 387 00:24:26,319 --> 00:24:30,119 in percentage of shots that come from three, and they make them at a 388 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,160 clip that ranks twenty six. So they don't get up enough threes the Magic 389 00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:37,559 and they don't make enough threes, and that's with like Joe Ingles is over 390 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,960 forty percent, Cole Anthony, Jalen Suggs, and Ban Carol all over thirty 391 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,960 seven percent. None of them get up more than five threes a game. 392 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,000 So like, I guess if you scale up those guys volume, maybe your 393 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,920 percentage goes down, and that's not so super helpful. I think I would 394 00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:56,519 honestly, like I would just prefer we just see what happens if Jalen Suggs 395 00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:00,359 took eight threes a game or something like that before you go out look for 396 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,920 someone because I like so much of what the guys I just mentioned. You 397 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,279 really come full circle on Jael and Suggs. Look, if he's gonna make 398 00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:10,759 threes at like high volume, I I mean, I'm always he's not a 399 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:14,680 good passer, he's not a conventional point guard. That's that's just what it's 400 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,559 gonna be. But like he is useful if he's gonna make threes. But 401 00:25:18,839 --> 00:25:22,480 again, the Magic don't shoot. They shoot fewer than anybody in the league 402 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,920 in terms of percentage of their freed goal attempts. Like that's just you're leaving 403 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,200 money on the table when you have forwards that can just you know, be 404 00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:33,559 your primary initiators, get to the basket, playmake that kind of thing. 405 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,400 So this is like maybe one of the most basic wishless items we can have 406 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,440 because the need is so obvious. Uh, they should look at in free 407 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,039 agency and aer on the trademarket, what does it cost to get them a 408 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,000 manual quickly eleven point two to three point attempts per one hundred possession and he's 409 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:52,440 hitting them at a thirty seven percent Cluich. Yet them up and we are 410 00:25:52,519 --> 00:25:56,440 on too. The Oklahoma City Thunder. Now there's a bunch of different ways 411 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,039 I could have gone here. I think a lot of fans will wish that 412 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,079 Josh Getty will play better. I have flip flopped on Gidey, but that 413 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,920 just emboldens me to believe that on the court he is basically his like their 414 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,799 version of RJ. Barrett, where there's just gonna be these ups and downs, 415 00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:15,640 flickers and flashes of promise. Is it ever gonna sustain? It's not 416 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,759 gonna probably work out unless you tailor the roster perfectly to his skill set. 417 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,160 So I just didn't feel like, I just don't he might have good stretches. 418 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,440 I didn't want to waste my wish on that thunderfan. The other thing 419 00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:30,599 is can you acquire shooting or some front court hefter bounce my issue? There 420 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,240 is absolutely wish for that, But recognize that because you have Dort, because 421 00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:38,079 you have SGA, because you have Check, because you have Jaylen Williams, 422 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,200 that's top four of your spots gone, and it's like what we have Isaiah 423 00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:45,160 Joe and ken Rich Williams, and so now you start getting into this fact 424 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,519 like, well, we need someone who's gonna crack the top six or seven. 425 00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:52,319 That's a pretty tall order from a team that has been pretty big trade 426 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:56,200 averse, other than to tear it down or when they made the Paul George 427 00:26:56,559 --> 00:27:00,680 acquisition. So I settled on maybe some more victories. Again, good teams. 428 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,480 They did have that overtime win over the Nuggets. I think that was 429 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,240 on what was that Saturday or Sunday. I was watching that they have that 430 00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:12,519 level. But they're four and six against teams in the West with a winning 431 00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:17,240 record, and so it's just you're there, You're contending for a top two 432 00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:19,279 seed. You are one of the best teams in the league by your vitals, 433 00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:23,319 top five point differential, Like, let's rack up more of those victories 434 00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:27,440 so that you can make your arrival come beyond a shadow of a doubt. 435 00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:32,960 And I'm saying this mostly because I don't expect their core to make a material 436 00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:36,799 change that would account for the other wishes that I could have just outlined. 437 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,400 I mean, it's just it's nice at least that we have a knock to 438 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:47,640 level to level against the thunder can't say bad thing about the thunder on the 439 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,279 court. It just gets very ard. Yeah, it's like their starting lineups 440 00:27:51,319 --> 00:27:53,400 offense can be a little squishy, But that goes back to Gudey. I 441 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,480 think, well, yeah, three years ahead of schedule, we gotta find 442 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,160 a knit to pick. So for the Knicks, I I mean, now 443 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,079 you might say they need some centers because they're all hurt, but that I 444 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:11,519 know a guy you get it. Where's why haven't you programmed the Chris Bouchet 445 00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:14,720 button like you could even in the video like make his face pop? Oh? 446 00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:17,119 Did you? I was thought about Noah? I know a guy, 447 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:25,839 Noah who von Leah? A guy you think he's coming back? Timms went 448 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,000 to the Taj Gibson, Well why not? So for the Knicks, I 449 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,599 think I think their wishless should include an upgrade button for RJ. Barrett, 450 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,279 or maybe a button that allows him to be playable in fourth quarters, because 451 00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:41,400 that's not happening very much anymore. That's a little bit distressing. You have 452 00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:49,319 spoken many times and with great knowledge and passion about how like his whole developmental 453 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,960 arc is just so confounding talking about Barrett because sometimes the three point shootings there 454 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,839 sometimes the defense looks like it's there. Sometimes it's just impossible to imagine him 455 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,960 fitting on a good team because he's such a weird, niche player. So 456 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,759 I'm just gonna press that the Meme upgrade button and make him into a big 457 00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:11,720 wing slash combo forward who can defend opposing top options at multiple positions and can 458 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,599 consistently make a bunch of threes and threatened defenses from out there. I am 459 00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:19,920 describing Og and Andobi. I feel like, and if so, drink everybody. 460 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:26,519 I guess is the game I know about Chris Bouchet for what it's well, 461 00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:29,720 you always think that it's all you hear when when anyone talks, is 462 00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:33,640 Chris Bouchet's name being repeated over and over. We have a few seconds. 463 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,319 I imagine, where are you on the RJ. Barrett experience right now today? 464 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,799 I mean, if I have to pick out or if it always seemed 465 00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:45,720 like it was gonna come down to a choice between him or Randall, and 466 00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:48,440 at this point, like I am ready to choose Julius Randall, and I've 467 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,240 been on the probably choose RJ. Og would be perfect for them. It 468 00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:56,400 just seems like they need to set their sights on someone else, because I 469 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,039 don't know that they would have the best offer if he does. Yeah. 470 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:00,720 But the other thing we always have to talk about, and this is the 471 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,599 point you raised and I repeat it all the time. They still kind of 472 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,079 need someone who's better than everyone they have, Right, if you really want 473 00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:10,960 to get down to it, like or at least as good as Jalen Brunson, 474 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,519 maybe you've downgraded to that, right, I think you know who might 475 00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:17,440 be interesting and his pay grade is just so bad and I can't be done 476 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,079 to the office like Jalen Brown, Oh yeah, do anything for you. 477 00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:22,960 He's someone that's like, well, I don't know that he's as good as 478 00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:27,720 Jalen Brunson. I think he doesn't meet the credits comparable though he's close, 479 00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:32,920 like you simplify his offense like Julius Randall and Jalen Brunton. Would they be 480 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,480 the two of the three best passers on the Celtics, Probably, right, 481 00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:41,319 I guess. I mean I think so, I don't know who's who is 482 00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:45,440 the best passer on the Celtics. It's Drew Holliday or Tatum. I mean, 483 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,160 I guess prettured, how do you but he's not playing like huge minutes. 484 00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:53,119 White. Yeah, Derek White can do anything as far as I'm concerned. 485 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:59,279 Uh oh my next up, My bad, the New Orleans Pelicans. 486 00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:03,440 I have more threes, please, And I'm pretty disappointed because Trey Murphy's jacking 487 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,839 them up and they are still twenty They were twenty seventh and three point in 488 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,720 tenth rate when Trey Murphy the third came back. They are twenty seventh and 489 00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:15,440 three point in tenph rate since he returned. That's disappointing to me. They 490 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,119 are there are three point in temp rate increases by like seven percent when he's 491 00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:22,839 on the court. But like, they need to take more threes, I 492 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,000 think, especially because the way that they've just been inconsistent with how they use 493 00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:30,920 zion And if you're not always going to be a good rim protecting or defensive 494 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,119 team on a given night, like you need to kind of just give yourself 495 00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:37,200 a larger cushion for error getting up more threes and making them could do that. 496 00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:40,680 Now here's the issue. They run into the same thing as the thunder. 497 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,720 If you're saying go acquire this guy, and also if you want to 498 00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:48,039 a rim protector who also spaces the floor either with his screens or actually shoots. 499 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,279 It has to be a player who is going to be better then like 500 00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:56,519 being there, even being in their top seven is hard because they have like 501 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,200 the Jonah Allen Chunas is good. You have Zion, you have seen Yay, 502 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,440 you have brandon Ingram, you have Herb Jones, you have Trey Murphy. 503 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,240 So it's like, at minimum you need their next gut to be better 504 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:09,880 than Jose Alvarado, Dyson, Daniel Dyson Daniels, a healthy Larry Nance Junior. 505 00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:15,039 I'm looking at the roster and this is probably just a roundabout way of 506 00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:20,319 me calling out brandon Ingram just because Jonas is not going to take more threes. 507 00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:22,799 He's hitting them. But even if he takes more, I don't think 508 00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:25,759 defense has taken them seriously. Zion is a non shooter. I could probably 509 00:32:25,799 --> 00:32:30,480 be talked into Herb Jones juicing up his volume, but like CJ and Trey 510 00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:37,559 are already over ten attempts per one hundred posessions, brandon Ingram is at basically 511 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:43,559 six per one hundred. That ranks seventy fifth out of one hundred and five 512 00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:46,680 players who are having usage rate above twenty. And so the fact that he's 513 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,680 taking under six attempts per thirty per one hundred possessions. It just needs to 514 00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:55,759 change. And take this Pelicans fans, if you're angry about it as me 515 00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,680 nitpicking, because I think this team went healthy, has the potential to be 516 00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:02,839 so good. Like we all know that I ride or die with the Pelicans. 517 00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:06,720 I did come close to dying earlier this season, or at least jumping 518 00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:09,200 off the bandwagon, but I held on and I'm happy I did. I 519 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:15,920 just I think their offense needs that different volume level of scoring. Yeah, 520 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,640 I think that's right. It's just like, I don't know what the explanation 521 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,640 for Ingram not taking more threes is, Like he just his first, second 522 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,440 and third thought are always just like get to the elbow and rise up more 523 00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:30,079 or less, and it's just like that that can't be it. Especially if 524 00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:34,319 you're playing with Zion. That can't be it. Oh my godness, it's 525 00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:36,839 still me. I'm really just not paying attention to the alphabet right now. 526 00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:40,400 The Minnesota Timberwolves, speaking of nitpicking, because there's just not much to say 527 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,880 about this team. Maybe better off court decision making from Anthony Edwards, that's 528 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,359 fair game, But I think they need backup point guard type who preferably will 529 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,720 juice up their three point volume. We've seen them be shaky on offense at 530 00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:58,519 times. The non at minutes are disaster. Even when Mike Conley's on the 531 00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:00,839 floor. Can they get some even if they're not a facilitator, because I 532 00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:04,039 think you can get the points where it's well, we have the ability to 533 00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:07,319 stagger Conley. We can put Kyle Anderson on the court. He's a good 534 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,840 passer. So just get someone who's gonna come in, get up threes and 535 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,519 can maybe handle the ball a little bit. I've cited Javon Carter. A 536 00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:16,280 bunch Alec Burks would make a lot of sense for this team. And you 537 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,719 can, in theory get to the money for either of those guys that I 538 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,400 just mentioned without giving up. I'll call it your core seven. Where you're 539 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,320 looking at Nasreed Anderson coming off the bench. You have Troy Brown Junior's money. 540 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,800 You have Shake Milton. That gets you to about eight millions. You 541 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,880 can take it back a little bit more than that. I don't know if 542 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,440 that quite gets you to Burkes, but that's enough for Javon Carter, right. 543 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,639 I think you actually only need you might need Shake and a smaller salary 544 00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:44,639 for Javon Carter, you have some seconds that you could give up that type 545 00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:46,599 of acquisition. I don't know if it makes you if you're out on the 546 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,840 Timberwolves as a contender because of the dual big setup and you don't think it'll 547 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,440 fare well and playoff matchups, there's nothing that could be done for them on 548 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,519 the trade market because they're not breaking up. This court's been so good, 549 00:34:57,519 --> 00:35:00,519 and I happen to believe in them their playoff stock. So I just think 550 00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:02,079 this type of tweak and even if it's not going to be a backup point 551 00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:05,239 guard, if it's someone who can come in and be in the top seven 552 00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:07,760 eight of your rotation and get up threes, I think that really opens up 553 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,760 your offense. Yeah, we've I don't know if we coined it, but 554 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,920 we've definitely had a few. I have no notes teams over the years. 555 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,599 You know, it used to be the Bucks, might be the Celtics right 556 00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:22,039 now. I think as far as the regular season goes, I think I 557 00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,280 have no notes for the Timberwolves other than like, well, if Mike Conley 558 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,480 gets hurt, they're they're in trouble there. But like, I don't know, 559 00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:30,440 is that a note like, oh if some if a starter gets hurt, 560 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,639 Like, yeah, of course that's true for every team, So right, 561 00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:36,920 I was very curious to see what you have the correct item here. 562 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,559 I think they're weird in the sense that if you, I know, they 563 00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:42,559 have depth, but it feels like a lot of regular season depth, and 564 00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:45,679 so they're weird in the sense like if you take away any one of their 565 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,400 starters, almost like if you took away go Bear, if you took away 566 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,880 Calmly, if you took away Edwards, and I think long term, if 567 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,360 you like took away Jane McDaniels from it, and I know he's missed timely. 568 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,440 Ye're like, it feels like they're almost fucked. I do know which 569 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,840 is a weird thing say about what's been the best team in the league and 570 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,880 which feels deep on paper? Maybe I went one player too far, but 571 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,320 certainly losing Calmly or Gobert feels like it would verge on dire. Yeah. 572 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,639 Right, it changes everything about what they're doing. And I'm not showing Karl 573 00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:16,360 Anthony Towns, which is that they have nos reed and so it's just you're 574 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,599 fine, Yeah, I mean that is the spot where NAS reed is like 575 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,719 very much. I don't know if you I guess you have to say, 576 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,880 is the poor man's cat, but like he does a lot of the same 577 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,639 stuff. I have. The Milwaukee bock Bucks coming up next. Their wish 578 00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:36,119 list includes a head start and this is all in reference to their transition defense 579 00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:40,880 being like inexplicably confoundedly terrible. So my theory for them, or my suggestion 580 00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:45,159 is just like, if you think it's time to run back, it's already 581 00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:51,039 too late, So just like dial that back like three seconds before you think 582 00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:52,840 it's time to run back. On defense, Like, it's so bizarre to 583 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,559 that this team does not offensive rebounds, so it's not like they're throwing all 584 00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:00,719 their bodies at the glass and that's why they're not getting back. The stat 585 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:06,000 that blew me away opponents get transition opportunities on forty point seven percent of live 586 00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:09,719 rebounds. For some context, the second most generous team in that stat is 587 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,079 the seventy six Ers. They allow runouts on thirty four point nine percent of 588 00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:16,679 live rebounds. That's closer to the middle of the pack than it is to 589 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,519 the Bucks. So it's like the gap between Milwaukee and everyone else in this 590 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,400 on on just like how often teams get out on the break on a live 591 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,280 rebound is like, it's just it's staggering. And it's not like this is 592 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,440 a young team. It's not like this is a lazy team. Like Giannis 593 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,679 plays really hard and that sets the tone for them. It's not. It 594 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,639 can't just be Dame. Like if it were one guy, we would have 595 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,239 isolated it and said like, hey, Dame, just stay at the logo, 596 00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:45,840 like and just start the you know, if you shoot it from there, 597 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,400 just stay there and then backpedal a little bit. So I don't have 598 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,920 an answer. I just it's such a glaring weakness that it could only be 599 00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:59,440 this for their wishless item. Just the ability to get back if you want 600 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,519 to not be like quite as cute about it. Two things on that though, 601 00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:04,599 And I don't I'm not sure the numbers have changed. They've actually been 602 00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:07,159 an above average transition defense when you look at points a lot per possession. 603 00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:12,239 But because opponents get out so frequently, I just, how do you I 604 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,239 think playing Andre Jackson Junior Moore is a good thing. Play marj On Bouchamp 605 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,679 Moore, the fans that are lusting after Alex Caruso. I don't even think 606 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,159 if you did Connatant and Bouchamp in seconds, that's going to be anywhere close 607 00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:25,360 to the best offer for Caruso. No, I don't. And it's and 608 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,519 like the bulls guard you probably could get is a reunion with Javon, Carter 609 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:35,559 or Io. Assume it would still be interesting on this team. Yeah, 610 00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:38,639 just let's pluck all the bulls. I just like, I just get picked 611 00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:42,679 one. What if you just said bulls, give us like one of them. 612 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,000 Just don't tell us which we'll give you. Marj On Beauchamp, just 613 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:50,079 just surprise us and you help me up Boachamp for Carter or Disuno. I 614 00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:54,639 don't think, No, probably not. I just like I don't understand how 615 00:38:54,679 --> 00:38:59,679 a veteran team like I want to put it on Adrian Griffin somehow like this 616 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:00,920 must be your fault. I don't know how. I don't know why, 617 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,239 but it's just because I don't have a better explanation, you know what. 618 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,320 Honestly this is, this is so divergent and it's gonna be longer, and 619 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,519 this should probably be their biggest regret. I know, I think we're giving 620 00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:16,239 you the East. They should have told and informed Drew Holliday about the Damian 621 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:21,920 Lillard trade, because then they could have probably controlled where he went and it 622 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,800 wouldn't have been Boston. Yeah right, And like that's kind of impacted their 623 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,480 transition defense just as much as not having like their championship, just as much 624 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,760 as not having Drew Holiday. You send him to your biggest threat or didn't 625 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,800 send him, but he ended up on the biggest threat to your conference. 626 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,679 Yeah right, there's it's like a compounding error, basically, It's like what 627 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,679 it's it's it just makes the one thing even worse than it would have been 628 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,679 had you just lost him. For not like if you just sent Drew Holiday 629 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,039 like into the ether, that's bad, but it's like doubly bad that he's 630 00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:57,119 on the team that's probably gonna beat you in a playoff series. I have 631 00:39:57,199 --> 00:40:01,119 the Heat next, so just this as evidence that this will just not always 632 00:40:01,159 --> 00:40:05,920 be a we need a three and D wing our point guard. The Heat's 633 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,320 wishless item is New City edition jerseys, because these Heat culture jerseys are trash 634 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,679 and I hate them. Uh, and worse than that, because this isn't 635 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,639 just a fashion podcast. Uh, it like the idea that you're putting culture 636 00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:23,079 underneath heat on these jerseys. I'm sure everybody's seen these, and it's bigger 637 00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:28,920 than the word heat. It's so antithetical to like what heat culture sort of 638 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,719 is supposed to be, which is like, you know, they used to 639 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,480 have the hype video during the heatles era, which is like the most anti 640 00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:38,880 heat culture thing ever, but where it's like there's flames and they're all training 641 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:44,719 and they're like hitting tires with sledgehammers and like they're carrying big links of chain 642 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,280 while they do like push the sled and they're working harder than everybody. And 643 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,480 Jimmy Butler now is in the gym at four am and all this stuff, 644 00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:55,920 like we concoct role players out of nothing because we just like beat them senseless 645 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,719 at workouts and all that. You know, we were more professional, we 646 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,079 work hard or we treat all this stuff. And it's like and now we're 647 00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:07,440 advertising it now, it's branding now. It's like so cheapened and sullied by 648 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,280 this stupid heat culture jersey. And they have like the mantra that they put 649 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,400 in the lane on their on their nd season tournament court, Like I just 650 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,599 hate it. It feels like you're the heat are great, like they do 651 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:22,920 do all this stuff. I just hate that in a world where everyone is 652 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,239 marketing their brand like the heat of taken this thing that's really awesome about themselves 653 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,480 and cheapened it by just being like, here's our here's our brand identity. 654 00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:34,280 Check it out. Don't like it. Get New City jerseys that don't say 655 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,519 culture on it. That's all go off. I'm not gonna add anything to 656 00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:40,320 that. We're just gonna go to the Memphis Grizzlies h full strength availability, 657 00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:45,000 or I should say fullish strength, because you're not gonna get Steven Adams or 658 00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:47,760 Brand and Clark back this season in all likelihood. John Moran is already back. 659 00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:52,400 That's great. Marcus Smart's apparently coming back from a footage injury soon. 660 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,440 Lukenard's missed a bunch of time most of the season. Actually, he's still 661 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,480 dealing with that bone bruise in his knee and he's dealt with like knee both 662 00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:02,480 like ten knights in both his knees. I believe that's something to watch. 663 00:42:02,559 --> 00:42:07,079 You're just I still tend to believe what they did to the Pelicans on Tuesday 664 00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:08,840 Night. That was a fun game. I know Pelicans stands are really ticked 665 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:14,360 off at the refs. You're just grant. They're like six games out of 666 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,920 the play in in the lost column right now. That's just so many to 667 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,039 make up even this point of the season, and it's like, well, 668 00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:22,519 which team are you leap frogging. I guess the Rockets could fall off a 669 00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:28,519 bunch, but the Warriors probably won't continue to plunge, So this season feels 670 00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:30,360 gone. I'm more about like, hey, let's see, can you get 671 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:36,320 a sample off which to judge Triple J Marcus Smart, John Morant, and 672 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,960 Desmond Main together to see what you have, Because what you really want to 673 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,679 wish for is you still need the wing of the future unless you think it's 674 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,679 the He's been great, but he's undersized Vince Williams, and it's not Zyier 675 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,639 Williams as much as we want it to be or wanted it to be. 676 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,639 So I just you want to get healthier to see without us doing anything, 677 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,239 can we make the play in make a run or can we at least know 678 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,360 whether this works or not? Because if you get like so, let's say 679 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,559 Smart is back by January, now, you feel like a month if you 680 00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:06,840 need this. If you decide, hey, this really isn't working. You 681 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,599 can still move Smart around the deadline and see if you can get back any 682 00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:14,639 of the value that you gave up to get him. I caught myself in 683 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,920 the exuberance of John Rant's game winner, thinking like, all right, maybe 684 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,119 Memphis is gonna get up to something. And then I saw the stat or 685 00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:24,480 the explanation that, like, to get to forty one and forty one, 686 00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:29,440 they need to play at a fifty win pace immediately and for the rest of 687 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,559 the season. And it's like, no, Adam, no clerk, not 688 00:43:31,639 --> 00:43:36,400 impossible, but it's impossible. That's a tall order, Like I mean, 689 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,840 especially if you assume Smart is you know, gonna be this not quite the 690 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,840 same, or we'll continue to decline or get hurt again. I think I'm 691 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,119 just very interesting what he was bad on offense, just turning them. He 692 00:43:46,159 --> 00:43:51,159 can't be like even your second ball handler. And so now that he's your 693 00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:54,119 third, maybe that changes things. Uh. We are on to the Los 694 00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:59,320 Angeles Lakers. This is gonna surprise no one. They need another offensive outlet. 695 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,559 I fall short of saying a star just because I like Zack Lavine for 696 00:44:02,599 --> 00:44:06,280 this team I think more than their fans do. But I think their fans 697 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,960 are also married to Ruy hot Chimore and it basically your offer has to be 698 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:13,239 Dlo, Ruby and stuff to get this done. The non Lebron minutes are 699 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,679 bad, and there are just moments even when he's on the court where they 700 00:44:15,679 --> 00:44:19,840 look clumpy inside the half court and you need more three point volume. They're 701 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,320 hovering around the bottom five of both three point attempt rate and efficiency grant. 702 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:29,159 That is not good and so like you're too dependent on Lebron being superhuman? 703 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,039 Will Anthony Davis go off even if it's not his jumper? Like is he 704 00:44:31,039 --> 00:44:36,360 gonna finish as frequently as he has been at certain points? I liked what 705 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,559 I saw a lot from d Lo during this like two to three week stretch, 706 00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:42,400 and I'm not out on him, but it's okay. I understand why 707 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,239 his contract is structured the way it is. Again, I did this last 708 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,639 year, by the way, I won't learn I really killed the Wolves for 709 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,639 the comedy traitsuse I thought Dlo was it, and so I like to own 710 00:44:51,679 --> 00:44:53,719 up to my mistakes. That was one of my more egregious ones. But 711 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,159 it doesn't have to I like Zack Levine, but it can be. Uh, 712 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,159 I don't I'm not talking tomar Derozen he doesn't nudge up your three point 713 00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:02,280 volume enough. I know they're obsessed with getting back Alice Caruso. He doesn't 714 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:07,360 nudge up your three point volume enough. Bogdan Bodonovich, Bollyon Bogdanovich, or 715 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,800 am I out of Bogdanovic's What else is there you're not gonna have for Larry 716 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,960 marketIn? Would you have a I don't think Kyle Kuzma gives you enough of 717 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,880 the volume, but like, and it needs to probably come at that position. 718 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,239 I guess they can be a guard. You have a lot of you 719 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,320 have a lot of size, so it can be like it can come probably 720 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:29,000 at the like anywhere between the one or the four. Yeah, I guess 721 00:45:29,039 --> 00:45:30,679 if you wanted a four spacing five a good defend next to Davis. But 722 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:36,400 I just described like who like nobody in the league right now, So I 723 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,000 think that's what they need. It couldn't even be as simple as like do 724 00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:40,800 they take a flyer on Gary Trent Junior who's not been good this year? 725 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,079 And does getting off of Russell's money? Dude, I don't think they give 726 00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:50,000 up Ruy for uh Gary Trent Junior. Fi I'm not crazy about that contract, 727 00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:52,639 but they just need to increase their you know, it doesn't have to 728 00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:57,159 be an offensive lifeline. There needs to be another offensive outlet here. Yeah, 729 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,119 I mean, I think they missed the boat on him. But Buddy 730 00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:04,559 Heal does the exact player type that Emily from Buddy Heeld requests trade to his 731 00:46:04,639 --> 00:46:07,639 Buddy Heeld not is he gonna resign Indiana at this point? Like what now? 732 00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:12,800 It's fun to be a pacer, so nobody wants to leave. Oh 733 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,880 my god, it's still sorry, it's still me the Clippers. They exactly 734 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,079 what's happening now. I'm not adding anything to the equation. The stuff that 735 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,960 they could do on the trade market, or maybe they should lower certain players 736 00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:27,000 is playing time or certain units? Is playing time? No? This what 737 00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:31,400 we're watching right now. The Clippers have basically just never lost since they won 738 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,599 lost those immediate five games. Since the James Harden sweepstakes, they are actually 739 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,480 during that time, they've won nine of their I think one nine straight and 740 00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:45,159 fourteen of their last seventeen. Their top five in offensive defense during that span. 741 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:50,639 Kawhi Leonard looks like an MVP candidate. James Harden is meshing Gelling working 742 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,840 off the ball, has great chemistry with each a Zubos Zubox has been great 743 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:58,480 for them, by the way, Norman Powell has been great to sort of 744 00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:02,280 amplify the stars. Terrence Man is still good. I love this team as 745 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,800 it is healthy. But we mentioned this on our News and Update podcast Paul 746 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,840 Georgia Whiletter missed a combined one game that seems to suggest, based off the 747 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,360 previous track record, they are operating on borrowed time. I hope, if 748 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,039 you're a fan, hope that they're not, because this team, exact team 749 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,480 right now, if they're healthy, they don't have to win fourteen of seventeen 750 00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:23,960 all the time. They are one of the most dangerous contenders in the league. 751 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,199 That is what they look like right now. The only thing that could 752 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,039 derail them. It's not even James Harden's playoff track record, because this is 753 00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:34,480 insulation unlike he's never had, never had it in Brooklyn, just because they 754 00:47:34,519 --> 00:47:38,480 weren't available, This exact team right here, right now, as healthy as 755 00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:43,440 they aren't, I don't even need Mason Plumb me back Whish for exactly more 756 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,000 of what you're seeing. I mean, this is proof of concept in a 757 00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:51,320 lot of ways, like and it's not and it's also not surprising. I 758 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,519 mean, what's surprising is that everybody has stayed healthy enough for this to work. 759 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,519 But this was the theory of the team. We just have. We 760 00:47:57,599 --> 00:47:59,719 get these two guys, we've put the right pieces around them, and then 761 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,400 this is we're gonna be great, and they are great. This is a 762 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:06,239 we've talked about this before in a different way. This is also still a 763 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,000 wake me up in April team, but in like a different way, like, 764 00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:13,360 let's just this is cool to see how many if everybody's still standing by 765 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,920 the time we get there. I do hope that our comments post trade align 766 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,400 with what you just said. I don't think we were one of the podcasts 767 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,239 that dumped all over it. We probably recognized that. I hope we recognized 768 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,320 there was risk but understood it. I'd be curious to know what we said 769 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,719 already forgot. But chances are I probably should all over the hard and trade, 770 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,679 But I don't know. Maybe I maybe I some shade it Jae and 771 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,159 Suggs and Magic fans. While you're probably I hope I equivocated. I do 772 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:38,960 tend to do that. I'm going to give you a break because we're onto 773 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,440 an Eastern Conference scene. But just for a second, I hope you're ramping 774 00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:44,519 up. You have a marathon to close this part. I know, I'm 775 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:49,000 it's good on a big run here to close it. So the Indiana Pacers 776 00:48:49,039 --> 00:48:53,199 wish list a moment to reflect and just appreciate that you have what I think 777 00:48:53,840 --> 00:49:00,960 is a generational offensive like culture set or floor whatever, floor raiser, whatever 778 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,079 you want to call it, in Tyrese Haliburton, and granted, like things 779 00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:08,000 have not been so great since the n season tournament. I'm definitely riding the 780 00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:13,440 high of how the Pacers played leading into the tournament and during it. But 781 00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:16,519 it's also just a you know, Haliburton is not It's not like he's just 782 00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:20,280 had like a hot couple of weeks, like this is what he's done this 783 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,159 season, this is what he was hinting at the year before. I think, 784 00:49:23,559 --> 00:49:29,159 you know, you try to go through and think about guys who completely 785 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:35,199 change, like how an organization is viewed, how it plays that make everybody 786 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,559 better, Like you you know, there's you could talk about the stats like 787 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,840 Pacers offense is nine per one hundred better when he's on the floor. This 788 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,199 year, it was seven point one better last year. Those are both ninetieth 789 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:50,039 percentile. You know on off split impacts, he's elite. The stats show 790 00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:52,760 it as an offensive like again tonesetter, floor raiser or what do you want 791 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:57,000 to call it, But like guys like this are super rare, and so 792 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,440 Pacers fans just like, yeah, your team can't defend. Yeah, you're 793 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,440 several pieces away from really being a legit, like we're gonna win some playoff 794 00:50:04,519 --> 00:50:09,320 rounds. But like the guys that do what Haliburton has done, you can 795 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,239 count him on one hand, Like there just aren't like this is Nash in 796 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,119 Phoenix, this is Jokic, now, this is Curry a few like years 797 00:50:16,159 --> 00:50:20,480 ago in a different way because he's not like a past first player per se. 798 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,199 But like there's just something special. We should all just enjoy it. 799 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:29,440 Like I just think if you're not seeing the parallels between Haliburton and like past 800 00:50:30,039 --> 00:50:34,039 you know, culture changing offensive grades, like you're missing it because I think 801 00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:37,400 he just does have that like hard to quantify it, even though I just 802 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,199 give you numbers that kind of quantify what he does offensively. Here's the problem 803 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:45,079 in the one hundred and twenty seconds you just took to talk about that the 804 00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:50,280 Pacers just allowed another team to get to the rim or knocked out a shot 805 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,719 from Florida range. And so that's why you can't think a moment to reflect 806 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:57,239 because your defense doesn't have any time, not a defensive culture center. To 807 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:05,639 be clear, the Rockets they need Jalen Green to not suck basically, and 808 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:07,840 we've seen some numbers. I don't want to go through them here, it'll 809 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,840 take too long, and you can go read the piece for more of them. 810 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,800 But just like his efficiency inside and beyond the arc is down, this 811 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,440 is not someone he is gone. I disagree that Jalen Green can't be better 812 00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:22,079 because we've seen him go basically in each of his first two years in the 813 00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:25,599 league. There's that latter half of the season he just goes on these scorchers 814 00:51:25,639 --> 00:51:30,079 where he is super efficient on these off the dribble jumpers. So there's that 815 00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:32,480 element of he can be better, but he seems displaced from this offense. 816 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,320 They've taken out a lot of the two man stuff he ran without prinching gun 817 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,599 in favor of Okay, now Fred van Fleet is there, Like Fred van 818 00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:45,159 Fleet isn't someone who conventionally infringes upon what others are doing, and Jalen Green 819 00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:49,199 has been unable to assimilate properly. The efficiency's not there. He's not giving 820 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,440 it to you on defense. I think in part by the way because he 821 00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:53,440 is small, like he's six' four, and a lot of people forget 822 00:51:53,519 --> 00:51:58,199 that. I think just when I look at him, I feel like there 823 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,079 should be a complimentary player there, someone who's not sort of has to be 824 00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:05,199 the bones of your entire offense. But even if he is that player needs 825 00:52:05,199 --> 00:52:07,880 to be the bones of your entire offense, he's not good enough. And 826 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:12,599 so if you're a Rockets fan, you're wishing for him to be better, 827 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,920 more complimentary, or for the Rockets to reach a revelation of some sort very 828 00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:22,800 soon so that you could potentially still capitalize on his trade value. Because right 829 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,360 now, when you look at the for all the options the Rockets have, 830 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:31,599 if I ask you, who are the foundational can't move have to keep pieces 831 00:52:31,679 --> 00:52:37,199 for this team, there's Alprin Shang Gun. That might be. It might 832 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,000 be, and that's maybe you just haven't seen Aman Thompson. So the draft 833 00:52:40,039 --> 00:52:45,159 equity implies, no, you can't get rid of him or Green or Jabari 834 00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:49,119 Smith Junior. But now that shit's starting to add up and compound upon each 835 00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:52,159 other, and so you need more answers from Jalen Green. I actually do 836 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,480 believe he could be better. I just don't know if he needs to have 837 00:52:54,599 --> 00:52:59,239 more agency over the offense to be better. I don't necessarily think that's going 838 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:04,079 to be his best role. I do see someone who could not doesn't have 839 00:53:04,119 --> 00:53:07,880 the same level of athleticism, but like someone who could be a zach Lavine 840 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,920 like Theo's some of the best elements of zack Lavine on offense. I could 841 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,679 see him being that. I think that's right. I wonder sometimes if he 842 00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:19,599 if Green is like, hey, here's what happens when your first two years 843 00:53:19,639 --> 00:53:22,880 in the league are in like a lawless, unstructured environment where it's like the 844 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:27,119 Rockets, they just got to do whatever they wanted, turn it over, 845 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,920 you know, thirty times a game. Cool, that's what you know? 846 00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:32,800 That that I want. And he's kind of he's not the last holdover from 847 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,920 that, but like he's definitely representative of how guys just were not developing because 848 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:42,719 there was no structure or like accountability at all, and he just hasn't. 849 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,239 Like he's still young, he's twenty one still, which is crazy, but 850 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:50,119 like this is year three. You can't be having your points per shot attempt 851 00:53:50,159 --> 00:53:52,960 declining every year since you were a rookie and your usage rate going up. 852 00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:58,280 Like that's just like this isn't isn't gonna cut it. Let's see Golden State 853 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,719 Warriors better play at the time, which could technically be inaccurate if you consider 854 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:06,239 that Trace Jackson Davis is now their second best player, Like you don't really 855 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,400 need any better play for him. But aside from Steph Curry, the starting 856 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:14,039 lineup guys have been should be starting lineup guys. I know there's been changes, 857 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,320 have been a disaster. Klayt Thompson is shooting better, but he can 858 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,400 still look like he's pressing on offense. He's never gonna be the same on 859 00:54:20,519 --> 00:54:22,679 defense. I don't think he's like an atrocity. I actually think a lot 860 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,519 of this season you've watched more of the Warriors than I have, Like Andrew 861 00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:31,039 Wiggins has probably been more detrimental to them. Thompson, no question, it's 862 00:54:31,079 --> 00:54:35,360 not clothes speaking of which, so when you look at Draymond Green, I 863 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,719 think he's still transformative on defense and he's hitting threes this year. I can't 864 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:43,719 I can't explain it. They're above the breakthrees too. However, he needs 865 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,119 to stay on the court. But it's just we're already working through. He's 866 00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:50,119 gonna be suspended. There's a chance that he ends up being suspended for more 867 00:54:50,159 --> 00:54:52,039 games than John Morant this year. Like that is on the table. So 868 00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:58,000 those two. So with Draymond, it's okay if he comes back, he 869 00:54:58,079 --> 00:55:01,360 should be better as long as he's playing Klay Thompson thirty three, just like 870 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,480 Draymond and his game is just like what you need him to do on defense, 871 00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:07,519 never going to be the same. Andrew Wiggins, he's twenty seven, 872 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:13,239 twenty eight around there. Yeah, he's not in the back end of his 873 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,000 prime. But we actually have basically a decade's worth of evidence that he is 874 00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:20,320 not the guy that the Warriors thought that they resigned. So that's a problem. 875 00:55:20,519 --> 00:55:22,800 Cavon Looney looks like he's tending to a cinder block garden this year. 876 00:55:23,079 --> 00:55:28,960 Just I don't know what's up with him. And then like that's those are 877 00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:30,679 big issues because this was supposed to be or it was one of the most 878 00:55:30,679 --> 00:55:34,559 effective five man units in the league last year. Yes, you can make 879 00:55:34,679 --> 00:55:37,920 changes to the starting five, but now you're taking away from a bench that 880 00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:42,360 has been your bright spot there And so the Warriors have to ask themselves, 881 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:49,960 are these age related declines, orge related declines or aggressions in Andrew Wiggins's case 882 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,840 to the normal that can't be reversed or will they be reversed? And if 883 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,840 the answer is no, they can't be reversed, do you have the guts 884 00:55:57,159 --> 00:56:00,719 the gall to go out there and make a trade for someone who will give 885 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:05,159 you better play at the top of your rotation. Because that's going to require 886 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,639 not just giving up assets, but probably it's going to require making one, 887 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,199 if not too awkward decisions. And I think a lot of people will be 888 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,559 well, they won't have a problem moving Andrew Wiggins or Chris Paul. You 889 00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:17,079 can make the case that they're gonna be a lot worse if they move Chris 890 00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:20,840 Paul. When you're looking at someone you want to manage the game. So 891 00:56:21,639 --> 00:56:24,119 I hope, because I love Steph Curry and he is still a transformative player, 892 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,480 that they do go out and make a trade, because I don't think 893 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,519 this could be reversed. I understand the emotional complexities of getting into Klay Thompson 894 00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:36,360 and Draymond Green trade scenarios at this point, but like you should absolutely have 895 00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:39,360 Andrew Wiggins then and stuff on the table to go out and improve the top 896 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:44,800 of your roster. Yeah. I would just say the one thing that was 897 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:51,679 not a foreseeable or within the organization like issue for the team this year was 898 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,000 the starting five not being good and like and that as well, all of 899 00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:59,159 them just all separate stuff just sort of imploding. Yeah, like that And 900 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:05,000 in hindsight, like maybe that's irrational because like Looney is someone like he had, 901 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,079 He's got the longest active games played streak after Jack. When I watch 902 00:57:08,159 --> 00:57:10,079 him, I'm just like, because he used to be injured all the time 903 00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:13,280 and then he just became his iron man. I'm like that dude, looks 904 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,840 like he needed some time off. He needs a couple weeks off. I 905 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,599 think that's right. And then yeah, like Clay of course was gonna regress. 906 00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:21,559 Like maybe this should have been a little more foreseeable. You're not going 907 00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:24,719 to change your off season roster construction plans around it. But this was not 908 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:29,039 the thing that they thought would uh would be an issue. I have the 909 00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:30,840 Detroit Pistons, Dan, do you want to guess what their wish list item 910 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,000 is. It's the simplest one on the board. They need a win. 911 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,519 There's a decent chance that this sounds ridiculous because they might beat the Jazz in 912 00:57:38,599 --> 00:57:42,840 their next game and you might hear this podcast after that happens. I'm banking 913 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,960 on multiple wins. How about let's mean more specific, what are they right 914 00:57:46,039 --> 00:57:50,639 now? What's their record? Two in something, two in a shitload of 915 00:57:50,719 --> 00:57:53,079 losses? You want them to get to You want them to get nine or 916 00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:55,639 ten more wins, just so you're not the worst team in NBA history. 917 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,400 Sure, I mean let's start with one. Though maybe that would be cool, 918 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:07,199 and that doesn't that's not going to change any of the Like, I 919 00:58:07,239 --> 00:58:12,440 don't know, mounting signs that this is a grossly mismanaged organization that has a 920 00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:15,599 coach that is maybe not the right coach, and they paid a million paid 921 00:58:15,719 --> 00:58:17,920 paid, you know, seventy eight millions for him. I was gonna say 922 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,599 paid a million dollars, Like when I say this guy scored a million points 923 00:58:21,639 --> 00:58:25,280 to be hyperbolic, non, No, seventy eight millions, seventy and a 924 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,719 half. I mean, who's counting? That's an ND season tournament, the 925 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,800 victory fee right there, that half million, it's not going to change. 926 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,119 You know, Kid Cunningham maybe isn't a top option, which isn't great. 927 00:58:37,159 --> 00:58:42,039 It's not going to change that. Jade and Ivy remains marginalized. Is not 928 00:58:42,119 --> 00:58:44,920 going to change that. Killian Hayes looks like a miss even though they continue 929 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,960 to plan. It's not going to change all this other structural stuff, all 930 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:51,239 this ideological stuff, like it's not going to change the fact that you've been 931 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,559 rebuilding for the better part of a half decade and you might just need to 932 00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:59,000 start all the way over again. That's but you got to get a win, 933 00:58:59,199 --> 00:59:01,159 Like, get a win. Let's start there, Maybe get a couple 934 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,960 more, and we can if nothing else, if they get a win, 935 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,639 at least we're not just constantly talking about them as like how long is it 936 00:59:09,719 --> 00:59:13,159 gonna go on? Because then we can lump them back in with the San 937 00:59:13,199 --> 00:59:16,599 Antonios and Washington's and whoever else really slides the rest of the way, because 938 00:59:16,639 --> 00:59:21,079 right now it's like Detroit is just singularly bad and you just don't want to 939 00:59:21,159 --> 00:59:25,119 be that the Denver Nuggets. So since we already talked about this, I'll 940 00:59:25,159 --> 00:59:29,400 go a different way. But I think you want Aaron Gordon to continue hitting 941 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,519 his free throws and his threes. You'd like him to. I'd wish for 942 00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:36,280 him to nudge up that three point volume, basically under two attempts per thirty 943 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,760 six minutes while he's been hitting them over his past five games. I would 944 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:43,199 also say it'd be nice if they could get sort of a different backup big 945 00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:46,320 option from what Kaziknagy we know, is not it DeAndre Jordan. You can't 946 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:51,679 rely on for big minutes anyway. Playing small isn't necessarily an option with the 947 00:59:51,719 --> 00:59:53,719 way that this team is built. We mentioned a lot about you know, 948 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,480 Bismock Biamba was doing nothing. This should have been a team that probably looked 949 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,000 at Bismock byumb but we know he's not huge. I know he doesn't necessary 950 01:00:00,119 --> 01:00:04,440 play their play their style. Can they get if Memphis decides to kind of 951 01:00:04,719 --> 01:00:07,519 sell Xavier Tillman not really their style anyway, but just someone who could eat 952 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,440 some regular season innings. That's what I would wish for, because I'm very 953 01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:15,119 much we mentioned this in a previous probable I'm so unconcerned about the Nuggets not 954 01:00:15,199 --> 01:00:17,239 being the best team in the West, but I'm just like, to me, 955 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,039 they are my title pick. They remade my team to be. I've 956 01:00:21,039 --> 01:00:22,519 seen nothing from them that makes me think that they just won't be there at 957 01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:27,559 the forefront of everything when it matters most. And a lot of the issues 958 01:00:27,559 --> 01:00:29,639 that we're gonna harp on the same from last season. But they apply to 959 01:00:29,719 --> 01:00:30,960 so many teams where it's like, well, they're really relying on their five 960 01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:35,400 best players. Yeah, no fucking shit. I guess who's gonna be on 961 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,079 the floor when they're trying to win a title. Those guys, they should 962 01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:42,239 rely on them. Peyton Watson's not gonna be closing games for them over kN 963 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,559 Davis, call of Pope or Michael Porter June. I guess maybe. But 964 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,960 Peyton Watson did get a TV commercial with NICOLEA. Jokis. Did you see 965 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:52,000 this? They're walking a pony through A definitely negotiated that for him. Oh 966 01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:55,719 yeah, great, great agent by Peyton Watson's Asian. Good job. Uh, 967 01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:00,119 this is the Dallas Mavericks they need or should wish for. Excuse me 968 01:01:00,639 --> 01:01:06,719 more two way supporting cast members. And I would say maybe the answer could 969 01:01:06,719 --> 01:01:08,000 be on the roster. We just haven't seen a lot of MAXI Kleiba, 970 01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:10,440 but I feel like we say that every season. We haven't seen a lot 971 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:15,679 of Maxi Kleiba. Grant Williams has stopped titting threes, and I think MAVs 972 01:01:15,719 --> 01:01:17,360 fans are now finding out that, oh, he's not a wing stopper on 973 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,159 defense, even though that's how the free agency signing was. He's just someone 974 01:01:21,199 --> 01:01:24,280 who can switch. Awesome, you have Derek Jones Junior. He is starting 975 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,519 to come back to solid ground when you look at his three point shooting. 976 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,519 We talked about Dante Exen previously. He has been a mega mega bright spot. 977 01:01:30,719 --> 01:01:34,920 The driving kicks are good, he can attack in space, his threes 978 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,639 are falling. Defenses don't give a shit, and you need you need defense. 979 01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:40,719 You need someone a two way. So basically, you need someone who 980 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:45,000 defenses give a shit about on offense, who will nudge up your own defense 981 01:01:45,039 --> 01:01:46,559 perfectly. You can defend the point of attack, or at least some wing 982 01:01:46,679 --> 01:01:52,159 guys. It's tough for them because they can only trade one tan like one 983 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,559 real first round pick U. They're not going to be in an og at 984 01:01:54,559 --> 01:01:59,960 Anobie sweepstakes. Could they be in a Jay Shawn Tate sweepstakes? As someone 985 01:02:00,119 --> 01:02:02,079 on that level. Perhaps does that even like, could they get like a 986 01:02:02,159 --> 01:02:06,960 Naji Marshall? Is that even what is that? Even someone who fixes what 987 01:02:07,159 --> 01:02:10,440 ails them? You just want to find more two way supporting cast members for 988 01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:14,760 this team. Uh, they're also just like injuries again have skewed some of 989 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:19,039 it and Kyrie Irving has missed a bunch of time. Lucas playing spectacular right 990 01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:22,840 now, but you're almost like threatening to run him aground with how much you're 991 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,679 leaning on him. So this could be Look, it doesn't need to be 992 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,440 like a megasplash, but like, this is a team that should be calling 993 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,920 about Marcus Smart. They should be calling about Jeremy Grant. I don't know 994 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:37,360 if Kyle cou I did mention Kyle Kuzma for them on another podcast like that, 995 01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:38,960 they they probably have the amo to get that done. If those teams 996 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:43,280 are looking for one first round pick in return, Yeah, I like it 997 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,679 all right, are you ready? It's just gonna be a dead So this 998 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:50,320 is this is what it wants to me because the alphabet for some reason exkews 999 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,079 Eastern Conference towards the beginning of it. The alphabetical list of teams the Cleveland 1000 01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:59,480 Cavaliers need a break and not like a break as in Darius Carland's jaw, 1001 01:02:59,559 --> 01:03:00,960 which as part of the reason he's going to be out at least a month 1002 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:06,119 Evan Mobley surgery. We talked about this on previous POT sixty eight weeks on 1003 01:03:06,239 --> 01:03:09,480 his left knee. This starting lineup that we love so much, with the 1004 01:03:09,519 --> 01:03:15,880 addition of Max Strus just right smack in there between the Mitchell mobile, Mitchell, 1005 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,159 Garland backcourt mobile, Allen front court made all a sense in the world. 1006 01:03:19,159 --> 01:03:21,519 Three hundred and four possessions for those guys, and that number will not 1007 01:03:21,639 --> 01:03:25,400 be climbing for a considerable amount of time. I was looking for this report 1008 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:30,599 on when we were talking earlier. This is from Shams and Joe Varden of 1009 01:03:30,639 --> 01:03:32,360 the Athletic. If the Cavs season is to be derailed by these two lengths 1010 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,159 the injuries to key players, the rest of the league will immediately turn towards 1011 01:03:36,159 --> 01:03:38,519 the shores of Lake Arie to see if Mitchell is available even earlier. That's 1012 01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:42,280 like a bump, bump, bum, You know. I didn't see that. 1013 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,199 When did they tweet that? I was, I don't know, long 1014 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,880 enough ago that I put it in our piece, and so I was wondering 1015 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:52,480 I missed that because I was wondering why you were talking about Donovan Mitchell trades 1016 01:03:52,519 --> 01:03:53,400 on our last pot. I was like, I didn't think Grant was gonna 1017 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,760 be the one that went this route. But no, no, you know 1018 01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,280 me, I don't want to start talking about trades unless we absolutely have to 1019 01:04:00,159 --> 01:04:02,199 planning podcast. You just want to do trades, it's all you want to 1020 01:04:02,239 --> 01:04:06,280 talk about. It's just my life. Uh So it feels to me like 1021 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:10,920 the vultures are circling and like, yeah, it's just because some team, 1022 01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:15,320 you know, or several teams come in with like these predatory Hey you know 1023 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,320 it. And I know that Donovan Mitchell doesn't want to be there. Everyone's 1024 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,000 been clear on that from the moment you traded for him. Let me take 1025 01:04:20,039 --> 01:04:24,440 them off your hands now for you know, sixty cents on the dollar for 1026 01:04:24,519 --> 01:04:27,400 what you gave up to get him. Like, just because that may happen 1027 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,199 doesn't mean the Calves have to just acquiesce and do it. But like it 1028 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:35,360 sucks that that's where we are already, and it's because injuries have like raised 1029 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:40,599 this like aura of like vulnerability around this team all of a sudden. It 1030 01:04:40,679 --> 01:04:44,119 didn't help them. Man, you're turning some nice phrases to me and late 1031 01:04:44,199 --> 01:04:48,719 Dan, I think I'm saf dummy brained right now. But it doesn't help 1032 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,039 that, Like the team itself just wasn't performing well regardless of who's on the 1033 01:04:53,079 --> 01:04:56,920 floor for most of this year. But the Cavs just need some better luck. 1034 01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,239 Maybe that's a faster recovery timeline. Maybe that's Donovan Mitchell come out out 1035 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,000 and saying like I'm committed even though nobody will believe him, but just something 1036 01:05:03,719 --> 01:05:08,239 that there's been no indicasion that he wants out. It's all assumptions, but 1037 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,519 it's like it's been loud and consistent enough for as far as the speculation goes 1038 01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:14,920 that it's like it's not nothing that he wants to be in New York, 1039 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,840 right, Like there's some foundation to that. I think he doesn't go to 1040 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,679 Villanova, so he has no chance of ending up in New York. He 1041 01:05:21,719 --> 01:05:27,519 should get like a like a like an honorary masters or something, or get 1042 01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:30,119 like a graduate degree so that he can fit in with the nick there's Kaggo 1043 01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:34,559 Bulls. Their wish list is headed by the need for a clarity of purpose, 1044 01:05:34,639 --> 01:05:38,760 which is just to say, like do the right thing, fellas, 1045 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:44,800 like see acknowledge where you are, create all your veterans. Stop this nonsense 1046 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,719 about like, well, we're interested in, you know, guys that can 1047 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,599 help us win now and if we get picks that are useful down the road 1048 01:05:50,639 --> 01:05:53,639 for Zach Lavine, all the better. It's like no, no, no, 1049 01:05:54,639 --> 01:05:57,760 you know you could. Good job. Kobe White's deal looks good. 1050 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,480 Dis Soon Moves deal looks good. Javon Carter looks good. Alex Truso, 1051 01:06:01,519 --> 01:06:04,519 he's valuable. Like if you want to keep White, you want to keep 1052 01:06:04,519 --> 01:06:08,639 the Soon Move. That's cool. They can be role players, maybe fringy 1053 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:13,639 starters in White's case going forward, everybody else like Droz and Vucevic, Cruzo, 1054 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,000 Levine, they got to go. You can't like you can't. This 1055 01:06:16,159 --> 01:06:20,360 is not a core that you supplement to see like how many more wins can 1056 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:24,760 we squeeze out of it this year? That's been the mo for going on 1057 01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:29,079 like three years with this iteration of the team this is this does not work 1058 01:06:29,239 --> 01:06:33,280 like that. There needs to be just a sober analysis of where this team 1059 01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:38,559 is and where it can go and where it can go if they have all 1060 01:06:38,599 --> 01:06:42,599 their guys healthy. Is like forty three wins, forty four wins, what 1061 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,559 like that pace? Whatever? Like we've said this from I mean, it 1062 01:06:45,599 --> 01:06:48,000 feels like we've only said one thing about this team for like the last two 1063 01:06:48,119 --> 01:06:51,519 years. And I know that gets annoying. But if the narrative doesn't change, 1064 01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:54,920 like our analysis of what's happening is not going to change, and the 1065 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:59,599 Bulls just need to look at the situation rationally, move off all these veterans 1066 01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:03,960 and just started over. And the way they're talking consistently just feels like they're 1067 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:08,400 not ready to acknowledge that. And so a little clarity is what they need 1068 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:12,400 here. And it doesn't help that they're winning, right, because you don't 1069 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,920 know which way that cuts. It should tell you that we don't need Levine 1070 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,679 and we should trade him, but it might tell it might make them think 1071 01:07:17,159 --> 01:07:19,920 what happens when Levine comes back will just be better. Look at all these 1072 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:24,960 wins we got, Now now we're really rolling, not not the correct lesson 1073 01:07:25,239 --> 01:07:30,280 from this story. The Charlotte Hornets are next a healthy Lamello ball, that'd 1074 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:34,320 be nice. We've talked about this before. It's it's when it's someone like 1075 01:07:34,519 --> 01:07:39,239 him on a team like this, which is to say you know we like 1076 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,440 Brandon Miller. I think I'm not ready to say I was dead wrong on 1077 01:07:42,559 --> 01:07:45,280 Brandon Miller. He's been better than I thought he was. Ball is still 1078 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,320 just like the only surefire. This is a cornerstone type guy. They've already 1079 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:55,239 maxed him out. He's hurt. This team doesn't have much of anything else 1080 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:59,039 in terms of its like long you know, big picture outlook to judge. 1081 01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:03,679 But if he's not available, like you can't really gauge you know, which 1082 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,960 center fits best or which wing? What types of wings do we need? 1083 01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:11,559 What's the best type of player type for the other guard with him? Like 1084 01:08:11,639 --> 01:08:14,920 what things do we need? You know what works, what doesn't work? 1085 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:16,600 You have some information on that. It's not like he's a rookie. You 1086 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,560 know, you won forty three games with him as arguably your best player not 1087 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:24,960 that long ago. But if he's not there, it just delays a lot 1088 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,079 of the decisions that a team like this needs to make, and it just 1089 01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:31,199 withholds information that you need to make those decisions. So we didn't do too 1090 01:08:31,239 --> 01:08:33,640 many of these, like a healthy so and so, But I think this 1091 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:39,119 is kind of the right one for the wish list. So they need a 1092 01:08:39,159 --> 01:08:44,119 healthy LaMelo ball badly. Yeah, rapid firing to the Brooklyn nets. This 1093 01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:46,720 is one of my favorite ones because it still just baffles me. They need 1094 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,359 a little chaos. That is the wish list item that they should be hoping 1095 01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:55,520 for. This is a roster with like just you could stop whenever. But 1096 01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,920 it's like mckail bridge is, Dorian Finney, Smith, Royce so O'Neil, 1097 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,279 Nick Claxton, Ben Simmons, Dennis Smith Junior. Now, several of those 1098 01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:03,960 guys have missed time, but the through line for all of them is these 1099 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:12,039 guys are disruptive, rangy active defensive players. Cam Johnson even ninety fifth percentile 1100 01:09:12,079 --> 01:09:15,960 and steel rate in twenty five games with Brooklyn last year nowhere close to that 1101 01:09:15,039 --> 01:09:18,560 this year. And so Brooklyn now is dead last in steals and opponent turnover 1102 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:25,000 percentage despite this collection of players. I don't know. This is another just 1103 01:09:25,079 --> 01:09:28,359 like the Milwaukee transition defense thing. I don't understand it. I don't get 1104 01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,840 how you have these guys and you get this result. Defensively, they they're 1105 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:38,760 bottom ten in deflections twentieth and loose balls recovered. They're twenty first in defensive 1106 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:43,319 efficiency as of a couple days ago. Like that's you know, the overall 1107 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,600 defensive rating. Like I get at Claxton missed some time. He's important, 1108 01:09:46,399 --> 01:09:51,439 But like the fact that they just don't like cause problems for the opposing offense 1109 01:09:53,199 --> 01:09:56,680 is like mystifying to me. So I don't know, I guess like try 1110 01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:01,640 harder, guys, Like maybe is that it sorry harder? Remember all of 1111 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:06,520 you guys have like seven foot three wingspans and are agile and just go get 1112 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:11,119 some steals. Anything to add on that before we blaze through to the Celtics. 1113 01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:15,119 Nope, got nothing, And so I segued myself, the Celtics need 1114 01:10:15,199 --> 01:10:19,680 to blaze through this season. Their wishlessteum as a fast forward button. It's 1115 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:26,239 not quite as easy to say this after watching them just decide that the way 1116 01:10:26,319 --> 01:10:30,239 forward against the Warriors the other night is to shoot almost sixty threes and just 1117 01:10:30,399 --> 01:10:32,520 not go to the basket and not get Steph Curry fouled out when he had 1118 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,600 five fouls, you know, midway through the third. The knock on the 1119 01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:41,239 Celtics for a long time has been not that they're a jump shooting team, 1120 01:10:41,279 --> 01:10:44,760 but that like they kind of bail you out as a defense if they're you 1121 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,720 know, Jason Tatum in particular, just wants to shoot threes over mismatches a 1122 01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:54,760 little too often. Sometimes. That said, they need a fast forward button 1123 01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,680 because they just need to get to the playoffs because this top six is absurd. 1124 01:10:59,119 --> 01:11:02,760 Sam Hauser is like, I can't get behind being worried that he's your 1125 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:08,439 seventh guy. That's good enough to me upgrade the eighth player if you don't 1126 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:12,319 like Peyton Pritchard or I can't even think about who I'm forgetting to mention there. 1127 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,159 Maybe you need a bulky third big, but like, let's just move 1128 01:11:15,239 --> 01:11:18,239 on. The Celtics are good enough as they are. We don't need to 1129 01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:23,279 play this regular season. Let's fast forward. I do think they need to 1130 01:11:23,279 --> 01:11:26,279 do something about the crunch time. Offense is still too sticky. That might 1131 01:11:26,359 --> 01:11:30,560 come back to their willing to settle and bail out defenses, but something just 1132 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,079 to increase and they have this base to really increase their room pressure too, 1133 01:11:33,319 --> 01:11:36,119 But that would be I'd probably wish for that. You'd think, like with 1134 01:11:36,279 --> 01:11:40,720 Porzingis out there, it's a full five out and even really with Horford, 1135 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,079 all their best lineups are just straight up five out lineup. For some reason, 1136 01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:46,479 defenses just don't treat Al Horford the same way just because he's old until 1137 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,039 maybe that's part of it. Yeah, I think that's fair, all right, 1138 01:11:49,119 --> 01:11:53,000 last one we were zooming through just because I don't want to. I 1139 01:11:53,239 --> 01:11:56,800 can't believe I'm talking about six East teams in a row. The Atlanta Hawks 1140 01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,399 could go a couple of ways here. I think they need to defensively dominant 1141 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:04,199 forward and like maybe that was supposed to be DeAndre Hunter, maybe it could 1142 01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:10,960 be Jalen Johnson once he's healthy. But we've talked about it ad nauseum. 1143 01:12:12,239 --> 01:12:15,960 This team is, you know, routinely a bottom ten defensive team. They're 1144 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,840 twenty fifth this year. I think last check they were twenty first a year 1145 01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:21,560 ago. This offense is legit, like it's a top five offense. I 1146 01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:26,920 think that has real staying power. They just don't have someone that. Like, 1147 01:12:27,199 --> 01:12:29,760 there are a lot of fires to put out with Trey Young and and 1148 01:12:30,119 --> 01:12:32,319 Clint Capella who can't really switch anymore. So you're asking a lot of your 1149 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:36,119 three or or four. And de Jontay Murray's not the same defender he was. 1150 01:12:36,199 --> 01:12:40,920 He's a better offensive player than he's ever been. But you just so 1151 01:12:41,079 --> 01:12:45,279 that just by default that means you need a versatile wing slash forward that can 1152 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,800 you know, cover multiple positions, guard the point of attack, be a 1153 01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:54,000 decent rotator, and help situations down near the basket. Like. That's a 1154 01:12:54,039 --> 01:12:56,279 lot to ask. It's kind of supposed to be hunter and it's not. 1155 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,199 So that's you know, it's a positional wish list item. But I think 1156 01:12:59,199 --> 01:13:09,800 it's a pretty glare one for them. Back to stat padding as we hope 1157 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:14,359 that Dan's weird ass microphone issues are gonna hold up for it. Do you 1158 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,640 wanna you wanna start us off? Yeah, I have a rapid fire one. 1159 01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:20,479 It's not really statistically involved for you, and I hope I didn't. 1160 01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:25,119 I didn't prep you that I was gonna do this, so I I'm gonna 1161 01:13:25,119 --> 01:13:28,119 put you on the spot like a lot, so just be prepared for that. 1162 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,840 This is called trade destinations, and I'm gonna give you a player, 1163 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,760 and I'm gonna give you two teams or other. You just have to real 1164 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,399 quickly say where you want where you want this player to go, and if 1165 01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:41,239 it's other, very quickly. I won't do this now. I had the 1166 01:13:41,359 --> 01:13:45,279 same thing for you, except it was just pick your favorite destination for these 1167 01:13:45,319 --> 01:13:46,840 guys, which I will now not do because that just steps on it too 1168 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,760 much. But better you than me, because you'll be better at this than 1169 01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:55,720 I would have been, all right, uh Dan Pascal Siakam, Trade Destination 1170 01:13:56,039 --> 01:14:00,359 Pacers, Hawks or other other? Oh? Should I give the Should I 1171 01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,880 give you if you got one? Or you could just say those two you 1172 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,479 suggested are terrible, grant get rid of them. No, I mean the 1173 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:10,680 the Pacers at me at least at least makes some semblance of sense. I 1174 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:15,039 just don't think he's the player that they need. Finding a fit for him 1175 01:14:15,199 --> 01:14:20,560 is like incredibly difficult. Here's what Here's what I'm gonna do going forward. 1176 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:25,119 I'm gonna remove other and you just have to choose one of the two teams 1177 01:14:25,159 --> 01:14:27,840 I love, give me other. I'll probably have designations from him. I'll 1178 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:35,199 say, for Siakam, that's Chicago, zach Way off the board, uh 1179 01:14:35,279 --> 01:14:42,319 og Ananobi King's Thunder or other other Knicks, zach Lavine Lakers, Knicks or 1180 01:14:42,359 --> 01:14:48,039 other zach Lavine Lakers. Yeah, DeMar Deroz and Heat Lakers or other other. 1181 01:14:48,279 --> 01:14:50,439 And I don't have a team for him. It needs to be one 1182 01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:56,039 that's just gonna generate the space necessary. Around him and could preferably insulate him 1183 01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:00,520 defensively. I don't know who that is, and his money is so big 1184 01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:03,720 that you just can't like come in and get DeMar de rose in. Uh. 1185 01:15:05,039 --> 01:15:08,720 I'm trying to think of teams that would have like the expiring contracts and 1186 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:13,239 like he's a rental two yeah, which makes it like double tough. Yeah, 1187 01:15:13,279 --> 01:15:18,119 I got I do not have a yo what utah? Oh that's fun, 1188 01:15:18,359 --> 01:15:21,399 I said, get a veteran for general, all right, A couple 1189 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:30,760 more Alex Caruso, MAVs, Thunder other other give me him on the Kings. 1190 01:15:32,399 --> 01:15:40,239 Oh that's fine. I like that buddy healed magic sixers other magic Kelly 1191 01:15:40,399 --> 01:15:45,079 Linnok, we're digging deep now heat rockets or other other Pelicans. Okay, 1192 01:15:46,039 --> 01:15:50,880 let's see we got the steph'spreak broken real quick, hey, Dan. Rank 1193 01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:57,079 these players by age Anthony Edwards, Tyrese, Haliburton, Chet Holmgren, Alprin 1194 01:15:57,159 --> 01:15:59,840 Shangoon. You can start youngest if you want, and move to oldest. 1195 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:11,600 The youngest is Anthony Edwards incorrect. The youngest is Albert Shangun correct. The 1196 01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:18,399 second youngest is Anthony Edwards incorrect. He's so old, is he No, 1197 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:26,199 he's twenty two. What was the so halle Anthony Edwards and who uh chet? 1198 01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:31,680 Oh? So the second youngest is Haliburton. Nope, Cat's the second 1199 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:35,600 youngest. Edwards is the third youngest. Haliburton's the oldest. Alberton's the oldest 1200 01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:41,479 by like a lot. He's a full year so Chet and sh Shangoon are 1201 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,960 both twenty one. Shangoon's like, I don't know, a few months younger. 1202 01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:50,960 Edwards is twenty two. He's basically a little almost a year older than 1203 01:16:51,039 --> 01:16:57,279 Shangoon, and Halliburton is over a full year older than Edwards, almost a 1204 01:16:57,359 --> 01:17:00,039 year and a half. I should have known he was the oldest, and 1205 01:17:00,119 --> 01:17:01,520 I kind of did, but I was all turned around because I was getting 1206 01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,960 everything wrong. I didn't get a single spot right. Those are always the 1207 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,319 hardest ones, because once you mess up one of the ranks, you're just 1208 01:17:08,399 --> 01:17:13,000 like on till afterwards. I have some more just random stuff, unless you 1209 01:17:13,039 --> 01:17:15,920 want to throw me some No, I keep going through yours and then I'll 1210 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,960 get to mind. All right. So we're talking about players that have a 1211 01:17:20,039 --> 01:17:25,800 lot of games with ten or more assists and zero turnovers, and we're only 1212 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:32,640 doing active players. Okay, so there are six players that are active right 1213 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:39,560 now that have at least ten career games with ten or more assists and zero 1214 01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:45,520 turnovers. I'll give you three strikes. Can you name all six? No, 1215 01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:49,520 but give a shot. Chris Paul correct number one by a mile. 1216 01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:58,640 Tyres Halburton correct number three. Is Demart Rosen on this list, He's not. 1217 01:17:59,079 --> 01:18:00,000 That's a good guess. I think he had he didn't have ten, 1218 01:18:00,079 --> 01:18:04,000 but he was on there. He had some active players with that. You 1219 01:18:04,079 --> 01:18:06,680 said they have at least ten games of this or they just have the most. 1220 01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,600 All these guys have at least. I cut it off at ten, 1221 01:18:11,199 --> 01:18:13,760 but I do have them listed as like, Chris Paul's the most. He 1222 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,880 has fifty eight. Tyrese Haliburtn has thirteen, and he's in third on this 1223 01:18:17,039 --> 01:18:24,439 list active players. Is Tias Jones on here? No, he's he's He 1224 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:30,880 was also on the list, but he didn't he wasn't over ten. Trey 1225 01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,920 Young, No, a couple of ways to strike three. I only got 1226 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:39,079 two. That's bad, all right. I'll give you a couple of hints. 1227 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,479 The longevity aspect is like a factor here, So think guys that have 1228 01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:48,680 played like, say twenty years Lebron, Yeah, he's got eleven. And 1229 01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:55,720 then just I mean, like two of the most veteran point guards that are 1230 01:18:55,800 --> 01:19:03,760 still like actually playing, uh dame, No one of them plays for the 1231 01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:08,760 best team in the West. Oh my god. Mike Conley, Yeah, 1232 01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:13,399 he's second with fourteen. And then I'll just give you so Kyle Lowry has 1233 01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:17,039 eleven. Oh, and then Jokic has ten. He's the he's got the 1234 01:19:17,359 --> 01:19:19,319 he's the other guy with ten. So can you read them off for me 1235 01:19:19,399 --> 01:19:25,920 in case I cut them up? Chris Paul fifty eight, Mike Conley fourteen, 1236 01:19:26,319 --> 01:19:30,920 Tyres Halbert in thirteen, Kyle Lowry eleven, Lebron James eleven, Nicolea. 1237 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:36,640 Jokic ten. Wow, I should have gotten more of those. We're 1238 01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:43,479 gonna go completely the other way now. Most career games with zero assists and 1239 01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,960 at least five turnovers, Okay, I just want to see if you can 1240 01:19:48,039 --> 01:19:51,560 get like a few of them. All these guys have at least six. 1241 01:19:53,399 --> 01:20:00,680 The leader among active players has ten such games. Fucking know. Zach Vian 1242 01:20:01,279 --> 01:20:08,119 No, I think big guys for a couple of them at least five turnovers 1243 01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:11,399 and Zeros Clin Capella, Oh no, that's a good guess, though I'm 1244 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:16,720 surprised he's not on here. Rudy Gobayer, Nope, James Wiseman. It 1245 01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:20,520 wouldn't it be funny if it was Chance Wiseman. Most career games, I'll 1246 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:26,000 give you one. Number one is Andre Drummond with ten such games. He's 1247 01:20:26,039 --> 01:20:29,359 had ten games in his career with zero sists and at least five turnovers. 1248 01:20:30,319 --> 01:20:34,159 Who's another center. No, but you're really on You're on the right track, 1249 01:20:34,279 --> 01:20:45,640 like another center that is maybe infamous for making mistakes. And Shaq has 1250 01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:50,600 a whole bit about Yeah, he's got eight of these games. Let's see. 1251 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:56,279 I can't give you any more clues. Kevin Durant has eight such games. 1252 01:20:56,439 --> 01:21:00,359 Believe wow, crazy Rudy Rudy game, Eric Gordon brook Lopez, and 1253 01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:05,399 Jonas Valanciunas each have six such games. Why don't you take a breather and 1254 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:09,800 give me some This was not a good category I came up. Those are 1255 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,560 too hard to just come up with off the top. Oh my, yeah, 1256 01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,439 that was so hard. I'm a little bit annoyed with you. No, 1257 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,520 I'm just kidding. I'm not actually annoyed, but okay, So, 1258 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:26,760 which NBA player has more triple doubles with at least ten blocks. You got 1259 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:31,079 that a triple double with at least ten blocks? I correct, I've got 1260 01:21:31,159 --> 01:21:39,079 it, Okay, Paquimo LaJuan or David Robinson. David Robinson, Nope, 1261 01:21:39,119 --> 01:21:42,920 Pakima LaJuan. Ten to nine, I knew it. Kareem Abdul Jabbar or 1262 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:48,000 to ken Ba Mtumbo. I'll say Matumbo because maybe they didn't keep blocks for 1263 01:21:48,119 --> 01:21:53,279 all of Kareem's career. Ten to seven in favor of Matumbo, you are 1264 01:21:53,359 --> 01:22:00,119 correct. Shaquille O'Neill or Marcus Camby, Ooh, I don't think cam you 1265 01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:02,960 ever got oh did he? Do you need the rebab? I'll say Camby 1266 01:22:03,359 --> 01:22:11,079 sneaky yes, three to one on Shack Bam, Matdebaio or Anthony Davis Davis 1267 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:15,800 that is correct. One to zero. Ma Newt Bowl or Hassan Whiteside. 1268 01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,760 I'll save a new Bowl. No Hassan white Side, four to one. 1269 01:22:21,199 --> 01:22:30,199 Wow, Raymond Green or Andre Carolinko Kierlenko correct one to zero. Sean Bradley 1270 01:22:30,279 --> 01:22:36,319 or Tree Rollins, Tree Rollins, No, Sean Bradley six to four. 1271 01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:46,039 Dwight Howard or Ben Wallace Ben Wallace correct two to one. Al Horford or 1272 01:22:46,119 --> 01:22:51,960 Javal McGee, McGee correct one to zero, Mark Eaton or Robert Parrish Mark 1273 01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,760 Eaton, Yeah, not even close. Six to one. Larry Nance Junior 1274 01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:00,520 or Larry Nance Senior. Oh, Larry Nance Senior correct one to zero. 1275 01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:08,399 Clint Capella or Rudy Gobert Gobert No, Clint Capella one to zero. Wow. 1276 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:15,560 So this one sort of related. Which NBA player has multiple triple doubles 1277 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:23,920 with at least ten steals? Okay, Clyde Drexler, Michael Jordan, Draymond 1278 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:30,079 Green or Fat Lever. I have to say fat Lever because otherwise why is 1279 01:23:30,119 --> 01:23:34,760 he in here? It's not Fat Lever. He had one, Draymond Green 1280 01:23:35,159 --> 01:23:40,720 had one, Michael Jordan had zero, Clyd Drexler had two. Wow. 1281 01:23:41,119 --> 01:23:44,880 Good for good for Clyde. Okay, I just want to back up and 1282 01:23:45,039 --> 01:23:48,680 note that you've put Tree Rollins in a in a either or and it wasn't 1283 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,760 Tree Ron's. I don't know if I'm ever gonna forgive you for that that 1284 01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:55,279 in Fat Lever, I'm just always gonna pick the like, why is Dan 1285 01:23:55,359 --> 01:23:58,319 putting this person in this? It has to be there that Leaver shows up 1286 01:23:58,359 --> 01:24:02,199 in like all the wild statistical like assortments, and so I get why you 1287 01:24:02,239 --> 01:24:06,199 would pick him. I had to. I'll do it again. Here's here's 1288 01:24:06,239 --> 01:24:11,840 an open ended one for you. There is never there's never been a quadruple 1289 01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:16,920 double in NBA history on record. At least pick one active player who would 1290 01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:21,119 be most likely to get a quadruple double. Oh, that's a great. 1291 01:24:21,239 --> 01:24:27,680 Let's see. So obviously the blocks and steel, well, I mean it's 1292 01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,840 got to be Wimby. I think I think I have to say Wemby just 1293 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:34,680 because I could see him getting the blocks or the steals really at some point 1294 01:24:35,399 --> 01:24:39,000 may not happen this year, but I think that's that has to be the 1295 01:24:39,039 --> 01:24:43,159 pick. I don't know who else do you have. I would go with 1296 01:24:43,279 --> 01:24:48,399 Jokic just because you know he'll get the rebounds, assists and points, and 1297 01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:53,119 then he's kind of sneaky with his hands when it comes to steals, and 1298 01:24:53,199 --> 01:24:56,760 he's big enough to get the blocks, and I don't think Wemby's just like 1299 01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:01,000 he's gonna have to check rebound, steals, locks and points and it's infinitely 1300 01:25:01,079 --> 01:25:04,640 harder to have to do steals and blocks than it would be to do one 1301 01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:09,359 of those categories. I'll bet you he'll get some ten assist games though he's 1302 01:25:09,399 --> 01:25:12,199 a good I mean, he's flashes of being a good passer. I like 1303 01:25:12,239 --> 01:25:15,640 Wimby because he has you get more cracks at it, because he might do 1304 01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,039 it in any of five categories. I guess Jokich is kind of that way 1305 01:25:18,119 --> 01:25:24,439 too. Surprise Dream did well. Draymond had it without points that one time. 1306 01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:28,079 Remember that? Yeah, I mean, what a missed opportunity there? 1307 01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,680 Really got it? I just his career span is gonna be so short from 1308 01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,960 here on. It's just got to play the odds. That's true. I 1309 01:25:35,039 --> 01:25:39,800 can't pick him now. You got any more? I do have more? 1310 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,479 But did you want to wrap up yours? I'm trying to think, like, 1311 01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:46,359 how if these are all just too cruel based on the the assistant turnovers 1312 01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:53,159 thing? All right, how about this Dan who has the most career games 1313 01:25:53,239 --> 01:25:58,600 with at least thirty points and zero assists, Rudy Gay, Klay Thompson, 1314 01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:06,560 Kristaps Porzingis or Anthony Davis. I'm gonna say Klay Thompson close, He's second. 1315 01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:11,960 It's Anthony Davis has sixteen games with at least thirty points and zero assists. 1316 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,039 Clay has ten porzingis nine, Rudy Gay eight. That was a good 1317 01:26:15,079 --> 01:26:20,359 one. I have another one. Most thirty point games with zero assists DeMar 1318 01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:28,560 DeRozan, Carl Anthony Towns, Kevin Durant or Kelly Ubre. I'm gonna say 1319 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,800 Kevin Durant close again, he has seven, DeMar Derozen has eight, Cat 1320 01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:42,199 has five, Oubre three. That's wild. Let's see here, I think 1321 01:26:42,279 --> 01:26:45,319 I had one more. I just need to make sure. All right, 1322 01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,479 Okay, we're gonna we're gonna ratchet it up a little bit here. So 1323 01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:57,359 one of these, one of these four players has a game with fifty plus 1324 01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:01,880 points and zero assists. Who is it? Kevin Durant, Klay Thompson, 1325 01:27:02,159 --> 01:27:10,960 Steph Curry, Jannis, Kevin Durant, Klay Thompson, Steph Curry, Jannis, 1326 01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:15,000 Kevin Rant, Klay Thompson, Steph Curry. All right, so I've 1327 01:27:15,039 --> 01:27:18,840 narrowed it down to two. I'm gonna say, Klay Thompson, you are 1328 01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:26,039 correct, same question. Fifty points or fifty plus points no assists, Kevin 1329 01:27:26,079 --> 01:27:33,439 Love, Kyrie Irving, Buddy Healed, Joel Embiid fifty plus points no assists, 1330 01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:38,960 No Buddy Heal, Joel Embiid who are the other to? Uh, 1331 01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:46,199 Kyrie Kevin Love? Is it Kyrie? It's Kevin Love. I'm like twenty 1332 01:27:46,319 --> 01:27:50,000 eleven, going way back. Wow, I don't remember that. Kyrie just 1333 01:27:50,039 --> 01:27:53,239 felt like he couldn't be the answer, so I was like, it's gotta 1334 01:27:53,239 --> 01:27:57,399 be here. Last one, same question. Fifty points or more? No 1335 01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:01,800 assists, Demart Rosen, Brandon Jenning, Zach Lavine, Nikola Vucevich. Apparently 1336 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,920 this is the Bulls edition because three of the four are bulls. Yeah, 1337 01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:12,920 who is the non bull Jennings? You know he had fifty five in a 1338 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,680 game. Did he have an assist in that game? I'm gonna say, 1339 01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,359 Demarta Rozen it is Levine, Zacklyvin. I think Levine might have done it 1340 01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:24,319 this year. I can't remember. I was surprised you didn have mellow on 1341 01:28:24,359 --> 01:28:26,399 there? Didn't he drop like sixty without? And I said, would you? 1342 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:28,880 Did you know? I was gonna know that one unless you happened I 1343 01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:30,439 didn't come across. I don't think he did that. I was sorted for 1344 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,439 fifty plus with no assists unless I blew it on the research. No, 1345 01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,640 you might be right. Maybe he did have an assist that game by accident. 1346 01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:43,760 Probably anything else I want to That's that's all I got. Okay, 1347 01:28:45,119 --> 01:28:51,680 Which NBA player has never recorded a fifty point triple double? Kareem Abdul Jabbar, 1348 01:28:53,279 --> 01:29:00,359 Elgin Baylor, James Harden or Michael Jordan never recorded a fifty point triple 1349 01:29:00,399 --> 01:29:05,319 double? Correct. I'm I'm gonna go completely counter to all logic and say 1350 01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:10,880 Michael Jordan has never registered a fifty point triple double. That is correct. 1351 01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,920 Sometimes you gotta play the question. Which NBA player has never recorded a fifty 1352 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:21,479 point triple double? Wilt Chamberlain, Luka, Doncic, Lebron James or Russell 1353 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:29,880 Westbrook. I'm gonna say Lebron that is correct. Again, nice shot figured 1354 01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:34,960 these out? Okay, Which NBA player never had a forty point triple double? 1355 01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:45,600 Larry Bird, Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan or Lebron James. I'm gonna 1356 01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:49,239 say Larry Bird that is incorrect. He had two. Lebron and Michael Jordan 1357 01:29:49,279 --> 01:29:53,199 each had five. Kobe had zero. Wow, Okay, that was the 1358 01:29:53,279 --> 01:29:55,119 one I thought you were gonna get. By the way, isn't that weird? 1359 01:29:55,399 --> 01:29:59,520 Well? I just I galaxy brain that one. I think. Okay, 1360 01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:01,960 ready, ready, this is the is this my last. Yeah, 1361 01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:06,000 it's a long block though. There's fifteen of which of these players? So 1362 01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:10,279 do you need to like take a breath? Nope, I'm just diving in 1363 01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:16,479 which NBA player has more forty point triple doubles for their career? Oscar Robinson 1364 01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:21,640 or James Harden. I gotta say Oscar Robertson that is correct? Is not 1365 01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:29,600 even close? Twenty two to sixteen. Wilt Chamberlain or Russell Westbrook. I 1366 01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,279 have to say Wilt, but I'm worried that they didn't track all the stats 1367 01:30:33,079 --> 01:30:38,800 right on record. It's Russell Westbrook thirteen to seven. Okay, Luka Doncic 1368 01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:45,560 or Lebron James forty point triple doubles? Lebron no Luca eight to five. 1369 01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:54,000 Wow. Michael Jordan or Isaiah Thomas of the Detroit Pistons. It's gotta be 1370 01:30:54,079 --> 01:30:56,960 Michael Jordan that is correct three to one. I just wanted to tie those 1371 01:30:56,960 --> 01:31:01,920 two together. It's only three. Nicole j Okid or Jerry west Jokich that 1372 01:31:02,079 --> 01:31:11,720 is correct five to one. DeMarcus Cousins or David Robinson. I wanna say 1373 01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:15,399 Cousins no, David Robinson two to one. Damn it. Joel Embiid or 1374 01:31:15,399 --> 01:31:24,319 bam Adebayo Embiid correct one to zero. Bradby Beale or Damian Lillard. Oh, 1375 01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,800 I'll say Beal that is correct, two to zero. He just Brady 1376 01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:30,920 Beale turns up on all these scoring ones. It's amazing. Yeah, those 1377 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:34,359 couple of years in Washington, he really got up to some things. Larry 1378 01:31:34,399 --> 01:31:39,760 Bird or Magic Johnson Magic. No, Larry Bird two to one. Oh. 1379 01:31:41,159 --> 01:31:46,520 Paul George or Kawhi Leonard. I'll say Kawhi Nope, Paul George one 1380 01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:54,079 to zero. Jason Kidd or Pete Maravich. I'll say Maravich, he scored 1381 01:31:54,119 --> 01:31:59,760 more yep, three to zero. Karl Malone or Chris Webber, I'll say 1382 01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:02,560 Chris, that's correct. You know I'd never picked terrible human being car alone 1383 01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:09,399 as an answer anyway. DeMar de Rosen or Tracy McGrady. McGrady that is 1384 01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:14,319 correct. One to zero, Elgin Baylor or Bernard King. Bernard King, 1385 01:32:15,159 --> 01:32:17,479 No, Elgin Baylor three to one. Ouch, you did really well. 1386 01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:19,359 I'd have to go back out of the fifteen, but I think you got 1387 01:32:19,399 --> 01:32:23,359 more than half. I feel like I got like maybe eight or nine of 1388 01:32:23,399 --> 01:32:26,159 them. Feel good about that. Yeah, some of those were tough. 1389 01:32:26,319 --> 01:32:29,600 A lot of forty point trip although, like I say, a lot of 1390 01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:31,239 them, but like this, three to one, two to one, one 1391 01:32:31,319 --> 01:32:33,760 to zero, with all those names, it's kind of amazing. There were 1392 01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:38,439 so so few. Were you mad? I sprinkled in some players that had 1393 01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,840 none in there? No, it's all fair. I just gave you. 1394 01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,479 I just asked what did I ask you? The guys with zero system five 1395 01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:49,079 turnover? I mean, if anybody's mad, it can't be me. Did 1396 01:32:49,119 --> 01:32:53,479 you want to do the trade exercise on your end? Hell movie, I'm 1397 01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:57,439 terrible at these. I'll never come up with a good team. There was, 1398 01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:00,039 though, one player that you didn't mention that I could give you. 1399 01:33:00,039 --> 01:33:03,880 You know what, give me give me your three favorite ones. Let's do 1400 01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:08,680 it that way, Okay, give me the best trade destination for these top 1401 01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:14,760 NBA trade targets. Og had Anobi. I think I've said like five different 1402 01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:18,359 teams for him. I want most for Og and Anobe to be on the 1403 01:33:18,399 --> 01:33:27,439 Sacramento Kings Lowry marketing. Can we get him on the Thunder even if that's 1404 01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,479 not necessarily what they need. That's a lot of fun. Pascal Siakam, 1405 01:33:31,319 --> 01:33:34,239 this is a we've said it several times. I don't know where you send 1406 01:33:34,319 --> 01:33:39,960 him. Let's put him on the Pacers. How about that? I think 1407 01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,600 he at least functionally can fit there. He's so he's so good, but 1408 01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:45,720 he's so tough to fit. Yeah, yeah, you wouldn't. Would you 1409 01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:50,399 want him in San Antonio with Wemby? Not really? I mean, like, 1410 01:33:51,239 --> 01:33:55,800 I think I don't know what he does for your He's certainly not like 1411 01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:59,159 a long term fit there. You know, it's not I don't know what 1412 01:33:59,239 --> 01:34:01,039 he I don't know how he like, what does he do that helps Wemby 1413 01:34:01,279 --> 01:34:05,520 like be the best Wemby? You know, knowing that they have a couple 1414 01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:10,239 of their ball handlers entering free agency and they have a big contract they could 1415 01:34:10,239 --> 01:34:13,640 send back attached to stuff. What do you think about Siakam in Brooklyn? 1416 01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:18,520 Brooklyn is low key, a like a sensible trade destination for so many guys. 1417 01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:24,520 I do, I do think he would fill in need there. How 1418 01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:28,960 do you like him as the four with Claxton at the five? Do you? 1419 01:34:29,079 --> 01:34:31,680 I don't. It's better than Ben Simmons in Quaeston. That's yeah, 1420 01:34:32,039 --> 01:34:34,439 there's a lot of things that be better than Ben Simmons. Yeah, you 1421 01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:39,600 get more spacing with Siakam, but I mean this year, Sakra's three point 1422 01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:44,800 shot has kind of abandoned him. I keep thinking of them as because I 1423 01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:48,600 forget where I heard it, but like as a Donovan Mitchell destination in Brooklyn. 1424 01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:50,880 You know what, Oh, here's what I can't believe we didn't talk 1425 01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:55,560 about this already. If you send Mitchell to Brooklyn, which is like, 1426 01:34:55,760 --> 01:35:00,359 okay, that's fine, but you send back like you probably can can't get 1427 01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:03,520 bridges, but if you could get Bridges to Cleveland, I feel like that 1428 01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:10,319 just fits so perfectly. Now. I think you'd probably be willing to trade 1429 01:35:10,319 --> 01:35:13,720 Evan Mobley to make that happen. You think you don't think Mitchell and stuff 1430 01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:17,840 gets you bridges? No, well what is the stuff? They don't have 1431 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:25,039 stuff? Uh, you get Mitchell and wait? Are you trading Mitchell with 1432 01:35:25,319 --> 01:35:29,079 picks to get bridges? That feels like that feels bizarre to me. Well, 1433 01:35:29,239 --> 01:35:31,640 you said Mitchell and stuff. Well because that's because you didn't like Mitchell 1434 01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:35,199 for Bridges as a starting point. Well, because it's like, if you're 1435 01:35:35,239 --> 01:35:39,039 the Nets, it's so different. You have to augment what you have, 1436 01:35:39,199 --> 01:35:42,720 and so you're basically saying, like Donovan Mitchell and then it's okay, I 1437 01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:46,640 guess we keep Nick Claxton and we roll forward. Well, it's it's wild 1438 01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:51,840 that we live in a world now where Michel Bridges is theoretically a more valuable 1439 01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:55,119 asset than Donovan Mitchell. But I guess part of that is, like, 1440 01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:59,319 if you're the Nets, you're just hoping that Mitchell's like, well, it's 1441 01:35:59,399 --> 01:36:01,640 New York. That's cool. At least it's not the Knicks. But yeah, 1442 01:36:02,079 --> 01:36:05,439 I think I don't know. I can't get past the idea that like 1443 01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:10,560 you'd have to give up Mitchell with something to get Bridges. I guess maybe 1444 01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:14,479 that's true, but I don't know. We should crowdsource this somehow, we 1445 01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:16,199 have to, Well we could, we should do an entire episode where we 1446 01:36:16,319 --> 01:36:20,000 just go through the list of mega trade targets and pick our favorite destonation for 1447 01:36:20,079 --> 01:36:23,560 them. But he do a couple more that weren't on your list, just 1448 01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:26,479 to see where you are. You obviously had O G and Pascal on yours. 1449 01:36:27,319 --> 01:36:35,079 Yes, Bogdan Bogdanovich, Oh, who needs like a stretchy for I 1450 01:36:35,119 --> 01:36:39,000 feel like we've talked about where he should go and I can't remember what. 1451 01:36:39,079 --> 01:36:43,000 I think you have a favorite one. I don't know if it's like on 1452 01:36:43,279 --> 01:36:45,359 course with what they would do, but I would love him on the Lakers. 1453 01:36:46,319 --> 01:36:48,960 Yeah, I think that that could work. I mean, like Dallas 1454 01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:53,880 would be one. I wouldn't mind. Just do you think Dallas could be 1455 01:36:53,880 --> 01:37:00,680 a sneaky Pascal Siakham destination hmm yeah, I'm I mean, like if you 1456 01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:03,840 knew that Kleibo was gonna be back and healthy and Grant Williams was gonna, 1457 01:37:04,079 --> 01:37:08,680 you know, be more like the first four weeks of the season, Grant 1458 01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:11,359 Williams, you might not go after it, but Dallas, like, I 1459 01:37:11,399 --> 01:37:14,159 mean, they went and got Kyrie, so like anything's on the table. 1460 01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:18,079 I if that's But if you do that, you have to keep Siakam, 1461 01:37:18,079 --> 01:37:20,960 and so now your core is Luca, Kyrie and Siakam. I'm not sure 1462 01:37:21,079 --> 01:37:25,399 like that, actually I don't. I don't hate that fit. But Sakam 1463 01:37:25,399 --> 01:37:28,359 would just need to make more threes because he's just his role will be different. 1464 01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:30,439 Yeah, more screen and rolling for sure, But then then he's gonna 1465 01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:32,560 play Derek Lively. I don't know if he's going out in that trade. 1466 01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,760 That's true, Yeah, I mean yeah, because maybe the optimal version of 1467 01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:40,079 Siakam is he plays like a fair amount of center and if you really believe 1468 01:37:40,159 --> 01:37:43,880 in Lively, like maybe he was closed with Siakam at center. Some I 1469 01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:46,239 could see that in like a playoff scenario, but I don't know if I 1470 01:37:46,279 --> 01:37:49,960 love it. I so the teams I have listed for Bogdan and you can 1471 01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:53,600 tell me if you don't like any of them. I have New Orleans. 1472 01:37:54,479 --> 01:38:00,399 Yeah that's like okay, Oklahoma City just in the giddy spot basically someone that 1473 01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:03,239 can get giddy out of there. Yeah, he's coming off the beat or 1474 01:38:03,359 --> 01:38:06,840 just bog Don in the closing like that closing five. I guess you're still 1475 01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:14,840 small but the offensive juice. Yeah, Orlando, I do like Orlando. 1476 01:38:15,079 --> 01:38:17,760 I thought about that as like as just saying that for for his my favorite 1477 01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:24,840 destination. It's just like, how are you fitting him with Bankro and Franz, 1478 01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:29,399 Like is he playing is he playing three? Is he playing the two? 1479 01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:31,680 Like he's just well just because those two can run your offense, like 1480 01:38:32,399 --> 01:38:38,079 you could play Suggs, bog Dying, Palo Franz and Wendell Carter Jr. 1481 01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:42,479 Yeah, that's true. You that's kind of a what a big I mean 1482 01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:45,680 that defense would be fine, like you have no problems there. Uh yeah, 1483 01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:51,079 that's a big lineup too, biggest Philadelphia. Yeah, Philadelphia makes a 1484 01:38:51,119 --> 01:38:56,840 lot of sense, just as like, although is he is he just in 1485 01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:00,319 the Tobias hair spot? Basically I think he's. I mean, I can 1486 01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:02,239 do a lot of mixing and matching depending on do you want to play smaller 1487 01:39:02,359 --> 01:39:08,439 with Melton than Maxi on the court, and then you have Bogdanovich with Joel 1488 01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:11,159 indeed, and you can still have to Buias Harris on the court or is 1489 01:39:11,239 --> 01:39:13,600 Nicholas Patoum on the floor. A lot of different stuff you can do. 1490 01:39:14,199 --> 01:39:16,920 Man, they suddenly would just be loaded with with wings and forwards because you 1491 01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:21,159 still got oubre right like, and you got Covington's kicking around there still I 1492 01:39:21,279 --> 01:39:25,119 have I have three more teams because I think he fits in so many places. 1493 01:39:25,399 --> 01:39:29,600 Okay, let's hear it. So just if they're not gonna pivot into 1494 01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:31,960 starting over, he makes a lot of sense Toronto, if they decidedly want 1495 01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:36,039 to move forward with this corps. I mean he's if only because he's so 1496 01:39:36,359 --> 01:39:40,520 different from like all of the players that they already have. He's like a 1497 01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:45,000 skill based like shooter, slasher, passer like that just they just don't have 1498 01:39:45,119 --> 01:39:48,920 that guy. Uh. And then the other one was I know he doesn't 1499 01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:55,119 necessarily fit with their timeline, but san Antonio just as like in a like 1500 01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:59,960 a pressure relief valve basically like on offense. Well, they're not gonna play 1501 01:40:00,119 --> 01:40:02,079 Start trade Jones anyway, Start Budonovich and have him run point for all I 1502 01:40:02,199 --> 01:40:09,720 care. Yeah, that works any either Bogdanovich. Really it's funny like anywhere 1503 01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:15,479 strangely, if bogged on fits, Boon fits, and it's I don't know 1504 01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,000 why they're different players at different positions, but if you like one, you 1505 01:40:18,159 --> 01:40:21,199 like the other at that spot I think. Uh. And then the final 1506 01:40:21,279 --> 01:40:27,840 player that I'll stop with that wasn't on your list a Manuel quickly man, 1507 01:40:28,279 --> 01:40:31,319 I just like, well, okay, so who I mean Toronto, just 1508 01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:35,960 go be the lead guard? Maybe would they pay him? So now you're 1509 01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:41,319 gonna pay well guy, we could lose, probably be part of the O 1510 01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:46,279 G trade. But he definitely works with Barnes. Trying to think where else 1511 01:40:46,279 --> 01:40:50,960 I would like him. I have I probably have three actual did you mention 1512 01:40:51,079 --> 01:40:56,920 Minnesota already? No? I just don't think they have the asset glitz to 1513 01:40:56,960 --> 01:41:00,279 get them. Probably not. Yeah, what are your which one do you 1514 01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:05,920 like? Utah, he can play with sorry I'm naming wines. Play with 1515 01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:12,399 Bordeaux. You can he can play with Bordeaux. Bugdanovitch, that's the third 1516 01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:15,680 Bogdanovich. Uh, san Antonio, they just have. This was tip to 1517 01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:19,960 I was talking about this with mort from the NBA pod. Uh like an 1518 01:41:20,039 --> 01:41:23,520 interesting trade. I don't know if the Knicks would do it, but if 1519 01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:29,119 you gave up that Raptors first for Manual quickly, and then just like you're 1520 01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:31,800 he's just this is our guy probably, which is like not the craziest thing 1521 01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:34,760 to do if you're if you're the Spurs, as just keep him around. 1522 01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:40,960 I think it's absurd by Spurs standards right to give up a first that might 1523 01:41:41,079 --> 01:41:44,680 be like the number seven pick because it's top not even that, but just 1524 01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:45,800 like, oh, we're gonna trade for this guy who we immediately have to 1525 01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:48,399 pay a bunch of money. Well, right, yeah, they always they 1526 01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:51,720 tend to operate from like we want to have guys that we have leverage over. 1527 01:41:54,359 --> 01:41:58,239 I mean, what I thought you were gonna get? Actually I probably 1528 01:41:58,279 --> 01:42:00,880 have two more. We'll just name them for everybody. But like he makes 1529 01:42:01,319 --> 01:42:06,279 some sense in the giddy spot. You know who wouldn't At this point, 1530 01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:10,439 he gets up threes, he defends, he can pass a little bit, 1531 01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:12,680 does more. He's gonna be more of a threat for me in between. 1532 01:42:13,079 --> 01:42:18,720 Finally, I think this might be my favorite one. Orlando. Yeah yeah, 1533 01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:21,479 I mean, like, would you say he's getting up eleven threes per 1534 01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:26,279 thirty six or something like that, or eleven per one hundred per one hundred, 1535 01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:31,720 Yeah, just like if on the thinking that just get someone in there 1536 01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:36,079 in the back court that like as soon as he touches it, the defense 1537 01:42:36,199 --> 01:42:39,479 is like, oh shit, it's going up like that. That is the 1538 01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:42,439 type of player I think that could really unlock some things for them. I 1539 01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:45,600 like that a lot. I'm gonna do This isn't really a spoiler because you 1540 01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:49,239 won't know the order. I'm gonna do one where it's a whole bunch of 1541 01:42:49,319 --> 01:42:54,520 trade targets and you have to pick your favorite destination, but you can't reuse 1542 01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:57,600 it. So once you pick the team, if a better one comes up, 1543 01:42:58,079 --> 01:43:00,560 you can't pick them. Yea't burn it. I feel like that's like 1544 01:43:00,319 --> 01:43:04,520 you need to strategize that maybe that entire podcast, we just pick our top 1545 01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:09,520 thirty trade targets, organize them. Maybe one of us organized that. You 1546 01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:12,239 could do that to me, reorganize them, or I can do it to 1547 01:43:12,279 --> 01:43:15,039 you and then but you can't reuse it. So it's just like without knowing 1548 01:43:15,079 --> 01:43:19,720 who comes next. So so at some point it'll be like, yeah, 1549 01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:24,199 I think, uh, I don't know, Gordon Hayward has to go to 1550 01:43:26,199 --> 01:43:30,760 the Pistons, Like there's some That was a bad hypothetical. I was trying 1551 01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,319 to think of the wrong team and I came with a good one. This 1552 01:43:33,359 --> 01:43:36,359 is why I'm not good at the trade stuff. Honestly, name a team 1553 01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:40,720 at Gordon Hayward just because you're on expiring contract, just like wouldn't make it. 1554 01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:44,600 I guess the Celtics because oh they have to give up Chris Stops to 1555 01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:47,680 get a basic right yere somewhere where you just because of the salaries, you 1556 01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:50,600 would just be worse for having him. But yeah, they're like the player 1557 01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:55,319 type fits everywhere, just a big forward or combo forward. They can pass 1558 01:43:55,439 --> 01:44:00,119 basically. God, I love staff heading so much fun, except for when 1559 01:44:00,159 --> 01:44:03,359 I give you a ten assistants zero turnover. Oh that was it was. 1560 01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:06,319 It was a fun kind of frustrating because it makes me feel so shitty about 1561 01:44:06,319 --> 01:44:10,279 myself. Oh so that's the goal. I mean, that's the whole point, 1562 01:44:10,319 --> 01:44:13,960 is that adding? Uh we good? You want to take us out 1563 01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:15,319 here? Yeah, we just get it. Look, we just dropped like 1564 01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:19,880 four hours of content me too with the interview I did on top of Alex 1565 01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:24,960 Squadron. Like, we we got content up, so much pod content for 1566 01:44:25,039 --> 01:44:28,720 everyone's holiday enjoyment. This is our gift to you. I hope it was 1567 01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:31,000 on your wish list to just circle all the way back. Wow, way 1568 01:44:31,039 --> 01:44:34,279 to be topical. 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