WEBVTT 1 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:31.760 It's not Tuesday. Welcome to BombCast Revengeance eight fourteen for Thursday, November ninth, 2 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:36.079 twenty twenty three. I'm your bad host, Jeff Grubb. We're gonna 3 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:39.119 we're gonna get through this together. Everybody. Jan o'hoa is out, but 4 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:42.880 we're still gonna do BombCast Revengeans because we got a lot to talk about of 5 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:47.960 a simpled crew of experts here. Whether they're experts in fridges or handheld computers, 6 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:52.159 it's for you to decide, that, concludes mister Dan Reiker, Dan, 7 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:56.039 how are you doing? I'm doing great playing all the newest, hottest, 8 00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:58.799 greatest games on my Steam deck. O. Let here look at that, 9 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:02.000 to look at the look at the colors on that I got bright of 10 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:03.760 this. Oh that's vibrant. That's what I would say? Is that? 11 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:07.519 Which one was that exactly? Which game is that? Specific? Okay? 12 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:12.120 Yeah, next block right now? Oh yeah that looks nice. Tomorro, 13 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:15.680 who's saying? Is here? Tom? How are you doing? I'm doing 14 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:22.480 great? My Steam deck is behind me, I'm very very excited to talk 15 00:01:22.519 --> 00:01:26.280 about it. And uh, the oh, let's screen has been rocking myself 16 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:30.719 slately. Yes, it's good stuff. And then Jeff Becklar, how's your 17 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:36.159 steam deck go? Led Uh, it's doing really well. I'm assuming it's 18 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:40.439 just you know, out there somewhere, perhaps in production or maybe not even 19 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:44.799 a figment of anyone's imagination yet, but we'll see. I do need a 20 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:49.319 new fridge though, because mine has decided to start leaking into the ice maker. 21 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:53.519 The ice maker is leaking and I'm getting cubes that are stuck together. 22 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:57.000 So if we have a fridge expert in the house appreciation, the question is 23 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:02.599 do you need do you need a new fridge or are you doing boy in 24 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:05.959 math and being like, well, I have to get into this entire thing 25 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:08.680 replace it with a brand new one. When it's like a little fix, 26 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:17.400 if something breaks, you can't fix it. I once moved because I wo 27 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:23.000 a window in a house. You have to get the whole thing replaced. 28 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:28.560 If I was grubbing my water heater broke, I would have moved. I 29 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:30.800 replaced it myself, like you guys, Yes, you didn't want to explain 30 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:32.719 that. You guys are like, what are you gonna do with all the 31 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:35.680 extra money. It's like, no, I did it because I don't have 32 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:40.280 two thousands. Why that's why if if I ever break a limb, I 33 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:46.759 am potato immediately. Yeahs I don't have a youth up here is because I 34 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:49.000 didn't have money to get to They could have fixed the tooth, but it 35 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:51.120 was gonna cost like three hundred dollars more, and I was like, I 36 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:53.560 just take it out. I don't need it, and they they told me, 37 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:55.199 They're like, hey, you're probably gonna want to as you get older 38 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:59.360 have a tooth there. It's going to fuck up your jaw and all sorts 39 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:01.199 of stuff. You're in three hundred bucks. I don't have that, and 40 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:05.240 so now that's why I have to get my whole fucking jaw fixed and stuff. 41 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:07.360 So has the science improved on replacing that tooth now, because I know 42 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:09.800 for a while there there was like, no, we just actually can't put 43 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:14.560 a tooth there anymore. I and six to nine months when my bite is 44 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:17.800 aligned, I can get a tooth foot in there. But yeah, please 45 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:23.879 please get a gold tooth. No, could it be funny chrome one? 46 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:27.680 Yeah? Chrome one would be amazing. Yeah, it would be funny. 47 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:30.479 Well that's not a can you get? Can you get replacement teeth that are 48 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:35.400 also like Bluetooth enabled? I was literally just sitting there waiting for an opportuny 49 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:37.400 to make a bluetooth jokes. And I don't even know if it's funny, 50 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:38.199 Tam, but I'm glad that we're on the same page. Like, if 51 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:44.520 you could have like a wireless transmit in your tooth walk around being bone conduct 52 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:47.520 Yeah, it goes right to your brain. What's the stupidest thing you could 53 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:50.840 put in there, like instead of you know, like cyanide capsules are like 54 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:54.439 the horrible ones. That's something like that concept, but a stupid funny thing. 55 00:03:55.639 --> 00:04:00.879 A little speaker, A little speaker that is only a to play one 56 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:08.439 sound. Yeah, Ryan carries Christmas song? That yeah, very probably that 57 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:11.360 only plays Mariah carries Christmas. No, I can play doom in my tooth? 58 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:15.840 Yeah yeah, with my tooth. Yeah No. Every time you like 59 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:23.000 take a bite, is the taco bell bong that would get buried enough water 60 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:28.959 torture. That's just not gonna work. That sounds terrible. I think all 61 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.079 the times you chew in a day that that would be wrong. My Xbox 62 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:33.240 made that sound every time I turned it on, so I already heard that 63 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:35.839 too much. Oh did you turn that? Did you turn that off? 64 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:39.720 Or did you uh with that? Either? You can. My Xbox one 65 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:42.399 X was the Taco Bell one so like everything, turn it on, dung 66 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:46.839 dung. Sure I could get in there and break the little speaker. I 67 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:49.959 don't want to change it. No, no, no, no, so 68 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:54.160 yeah steam deck. Oh lad you guys want to just hop into it or 69 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:56.560 be ready to go? Yeah? All right, I want to hit the 70 00:04:56.560 --> 00:05:03.800 button then make a laugh for you guys. I hear it's happening. Baby. 71 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:09.319 I think the most important thing to start with here is something I've had 72 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:13.639 to think of eight million times in the last two weeks. Is bezel or 73 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:16.519 bezel Bezel. Yes, you guys both said bezel if you like, you 74 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:18.519 interchanged a little bit. By the time you did the short, though, 75 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:24.240 you said bezel. And I'm really glad you had said on that turbo. 76 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:27.439 Shawn would have fucking died when he was editing there. He would have lost 77 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:30.959 his mind, that you guys. So I remember looking it up before I 78 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:32.839 shot the TikTok thing. But when we were in Seattle, I was just 79 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:40.800 talking what the seans and Chow already all caps bezelzel. You would have killed 80 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:44.680 Bezel? Yeah, Bezel? Okay, okay, uh but yeah, that 81 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:46.199 Bezel is smaller this time, so you see more of the screen. It's 82 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.360 uh we talked in the video a little bit about uh oh, I wonder 83 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:51.759 if it's gonna be a smaller form factor and stuff like that. It's not, 84 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:56.160 but the size of components has changed in a way where it's like, 85 00:05:56.199 --> 00:06:00.480 Okay, the screen is actually bigger, and one of the batteries actually because 86 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:03.759 because of the OLED technology it wasn't taking up as much space with the oily 87 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:08.399 was skinnier. The screen skinner because it doesn't need back lights because it has 88 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:11.519 its own light emitting diodes. That's what they are, and so yeah, 89 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:15.279 they could fit more battery in there and it makes a huge difference. Yeah, 90 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:16.120 So, like looking at it, outside of like you know, the 91 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:19.879 red power button, there's not a lot of things just looking at it turned 92 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:23.879 off team deck, LCD and an O lead that you could tell right away 93 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:27.920 like in a police lineup. But uh yeah inside inside there are things that 94 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:31.759 are shifted around in different sizes. For sure. I so I got it, 95 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:34.279 and you had seen it by the time I got it, and you 96 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:38.600 were saying, oh led screen, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but lots 97 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:41.199 of other cool stuff there. But let's let's start with the screen though, 98 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:44.839 and then we'll get in all those little things. It really is impressive. 99 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:47.480 I think that the screen that they have here is it's the best OLED screen 100 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:51.279 I've seen in a handheld gaming device for sure, better than the switch, 101 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:54.399 which is a good, really good screen. Not to like put down the 102 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:57.639 switch, but it's better than what the switch has. That switch, Yeah, 103 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:01.759 get in your place and then think it's better than like my phone's HDR 104 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:05.720 o LED screen and those things. That's a thousand dollars and these things are 105 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:09.839 getting up there in price, but that's I got. It's pretty impressive that 106 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:13.240 they're playing in that field. A big part of that is they seem to 107 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:16.439 be obsessive about the color accuracy and making sure that they hit that one thousand 108 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:19.720 knits of HDR brightness, which is what you need to get to have really 109 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:23.759 good HDR. And you got it. And it's impressive, and it's we 110 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:26.680 go like that battery because the battery I feel so much better. I don't 111 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:30.639 mind using it on full HDR brightness. It's really impressive, I trust me. 112 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:32.600 When I was at valb and like the display experts were going into the 113 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:36.720 nitty gritty and showing me like spectrograms and stuff and saying knits and stuff a 114 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:40.199 lot. It's a lot of me going into the like oh oh yeah, 115 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:43.560 yeah. It's like yeah, yeah, I know these words that you're saying. 116 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:45.959 Yeah, I can tell with my eyes it doesn't look a lot better 117 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:47.560 exactly. Real world testing is the thing I've just been doing. I'm not 118 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:50.639 sitting there trying to do anything scientific. I'm just like I've used the steam 119 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:54.519 Deck a lot, I've used the roger Ally a lot. Now I'm using 120 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:58.160 this a lot, and this one it just feels really good. It looks 121 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:01.079 really good, and a lot of those anxiousness I would have about the battery, 122 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:05.720 you know, running out too fast, most of that stuff's gone. 123 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:09.680 And then yeah, I was okay with the original steam Deck screen. I 124 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:11.639 thought it looked pretty good. I know a lot of people don't theyres a 125 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:13.839 lot of people like, hey, I'm going to replace the screen myself, 126 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:18.519 and I'm going to try to mess around with the vibrancy settings. And steam 127 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:22.120 Valve released and update so that people could do that themselves. I was like 128 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:24.959 whatever, But seeing the difference, it's like, wow, it really is 129 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:30.319 night and day. This is a much better screen. Yeah, I feel 130 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:33.519 like I mean, they talk about how impressive it is. They make a 131 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.320 big deal of it being the first like HDR enabled, like little screen or 132 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:41.639 led screen that you can take out about and it's when you start playing games 133 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:43.120 I have HI enabled and seeing it on there, you're like, oh, 134 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:48.080 okay, this is actually a pretty big deal. And in most cases they 135 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:52.440 say that they doesn't need to be extra work done to games to make them 136 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:56.000 function with HIO on the Steam deck. I feel like that is true for 137 00:08:56.039 --> 00:08:58.759 the most part of what I played, but there were some games that I 138 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:01.799 think require a little bit of finessing, a bit more just like a little 139 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:07.159 bit of performance noticeable hitches heir in there, but nothing close to even like 140 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:13.600 ruining the experience. It feels like a very impressive but seamless upgrade that is 141 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:18.799 enabling more features in a way that you would expect would require way more like 142 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:22.960 fiddling from from the user, but it's more seamless. Yeah, seamless. 143 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:26.960 I took the micro st out of my LCD steam back and put it in 144 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:33.080 and it just worked everything right away, no weirdness at all. So now 145 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:35.320 I have terabout two terabytes of storage in this thing now, because then they 146 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:39.200 able one terabyte model. That's what they sent me, and I think that's 147 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:41.480 what they sent you guys as well. Ready the right, the one terabyte 148 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:43.559 model, and so I put in one terabyte SD card and it's great, 149 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:46.919 And of course the SD card is actually still pretty fast to load stuff, 150 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:52.159 but you know, one terabyte SSD built in very fast. Also, Yeah, 151 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:56.759 we should probably, I mean it's obvious, and I like it makes 152 00:09:56.799 --> 00:09:58.960 a lot of sense, but we should probably just clarify that we were sent 153 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:03.399 these Steam decks by Valve ahead of time, correct, so you know, 154 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:07.120 do without what you will. Our impressures are based on them providing us the 155 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.840 the hardware, which we appreciate both. Yep, honestly one of my favorites. 156 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:13.879 Like there's a lot of like little tiny things that add up to this 157 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:18.360 being a bigger upgrade than something like the switch to lead one that I think 158 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:20.440 will make a serious difference for me as I travel, because like this is 159 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:24.600 a it's a great plane platform for sure, but like this case, it's 160 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:28.159 this outer case is the same size as comes with the device. If this 161 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:31.679 comes with the device, Uh, this this new case comes with the one 162 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:37.480 terabyte versus yes, yes, not the lower ones, but the outer case 163 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:41.080 is still super bulky and everything, but for the audio listeners, I'm there's 164 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:43.879 a belcrow thing here that actually I don't think you have to even on zipp 165 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:48.159 it you just yeah, yeah. So there's like an inner sleeve that you 166 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:52.120 can take out that is significantly skinnier. So if you're just like trying to 167 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:56.039 pack light or just do like a one bag situation or something, it makes 168 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.879 it a ton easier. So that's that's one of the upgrades. I really 169 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:01.159 like a lot. I'm sat in chat to EVO Shawn saying, what is 170 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:05.840 this screen people keep talking about? I can't find it anywhere and you can't 171 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:09.320 hot swap, steam deck, LCD and old led pots. So I interviewed 172 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:13.759 spoke to Lawrence Young, one of the key people behind this, the other 173 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:15.840 day and asked him, like, what is the deal with this screen? 174 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:18.120 And apparently it's one of the reasons that they couldn't have it in the original 175 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:22.120 model, is like they had to work with manufacturers to get this screen made. 176 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:26.120 I asked. I asked him like, who did you work with? 177 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:28.320 And he was like, we're not quite ready to talk about that yet. 178 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:31.840 And he also indicated like there's a bunch of manufacturers that they work with. 179 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:35.320 You can once you have an old lead, you can go in there and 180 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:39.200 see what where your panel came from. But it's not something that he said 181 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:43.559 at the time. When they first made the first steam deck, the original 182 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:46.519 version, they wanted to do this, everyone that they worked with was basically 183 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:52.279 like, what we've got these tablet panels, you can put that in there, 184 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:54.919 and that was not what they wanted. They needed something more bespoke. 185 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:58.840 So the process of, according to Lawrence, like getting this first steam Deck, 186 00:12:00.679 --> 00:12:03.519 like proving it to be a success, and then that helped them leverage 187 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:09.000 that kind of experience and the market share to go back and be like, 188 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:13.200 we need this specific screen. So it's not something that you will be able 189 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:16.559 to easily find, I imagine. But Valve also has kind of a good 190 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.000 history of just making parts available for repairs, and they're getting better at that 191 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:24.840 all the time too. Yeah, a screen seems like an expensive proposition and 192 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.720 a tricky one from like manufacturing to getting it available in a consumed to consumers 193 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:33.080 in an easy way. But it's not beyond the realm of possibility for them 194 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:35.440 to be like, hey, if you want to replace your screen, here 195 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:39.960 it is, but I feel like it's on paper feasible to do it with 196 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:43.720 the LCD one because the power is not all that different. But then you 197 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:46.879 have to factor in, like the battery size is an issue because the smaller 198 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:50.879 screen means bigger battery and vice versa could be a problem. Yes, So 199 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:54.639 I don't know which one people were sourcing before this was announced, that people 200 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:56.399 were trying to put in their own screen. I don't know if it was 201 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:00.440 an O LED screen or if it was just a better LCD screen. No 202 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:03.440 clue, but uh, I mean the reality here now is that this is 203 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:07.279 available, and this is probably your best option. I know some people are 204 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:09.679 already have their Steam decks there might be hesitant about upgrading. We could talk 205 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:11.600 about that maybe here at the end, where we're like, hey, is 206 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:15.200 it worth upgrading if you already have one. So we'll keep that in mind 207 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:18.279 as we're going through all these questions and stuff. But like to kind of 208 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:22.639 touch back on the HDR real quick. HDR on Windows is bad, It's 209 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:26.559 real bad. Yeah, it's getting it's broken. I had there was a 210 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:28.360 hot key thing where I'm like, oh, this is great, I'll do 211 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:31.399 this hockey every time I'm about to start an HDR game, turns HDR back 212 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:33.799 on and everything, and that'll it's still bad, but it will be less 213 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:37.000 of a headache. And it's like Nope, that hockey just stopped working. 214 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:39.799 Windows. It's like, no, that's not going to work anymore HDR. 215 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:43.240 What are you talking about? And then when you have multiple monitors, it 216 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.759 just makes it just unbelievably. And you know, obviously we're we're a very 217 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:48.559 specific case as well where we're doing a lot of video work and we can't 218 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:54.240 have HDR signals getting mixed in with SDR signals whatever. But HDR in general 219 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:56.720 on Windows is bad. This isn't Windows, this is Steam OS. It's 220 00:13:56.799 --> 00:14:01.879 Linux Day, but it's their version of Linux Steam that they you know, 221 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:05.240 baked in such a way to make it just work. And so far, 222 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:09.279 when I'm mooting up a game, it either automatically boots into HDR mode or 223 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:11.399 it automatically boots into a mode where it's like it's ready to have HDR turned 224 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:13.960 on inside the game. That's going to be a game by game situation. 225 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:18.519 But all you gotta do is flip it on the screen instantly. It doesn't 226 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:20.000 even like fade the black real quick it just like nope, just goes right 227 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:22.519 into HDR. Yeah, and then you can press the little you know, 228 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:26.600 the three dot menu button, the one that has all of your quick menus, 229 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:28.840 and you can see on there on the brightness and now just says that 230 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:31.759 there's an HDR badge up there and says, hey, you have HDR. 231 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:33.799 It's working. It's great. They do recommend setting the brightness to eighty five 232 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:37.840 percent, so that way, when you get those really bright things at the 233 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:41.440 really bright moments, those can actually go above that eighty five percent brightness. 234 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:45.799 So it just works and that's been a real relief for me. So who 235 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:48.440 wants to do more HDR gaming? And that's something that's gotten better with steam 236 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:52.320 Deck ever since the original came out, is that you know, at first, 237 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:54.399 there's a lot more fiddling required, what'stuff. And as time has gone 238 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:56.320 on, there's so many more games that are just like, okay, we're 239 00:14:56.320 --> 00:15:00.120 going to launch into that like twelve eighty by eight hundred and you know it's 240 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:05.399 it's just going to work. And now this feels like like the I think 241 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:09.559 they even described it as like this is like the ideal first sagetive, first 242 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:11.399 gen steam Deck. Yeah, yeah, it is not the seame deck too 243 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:15.639 or anything like that. They're not marketing it as such, but like there 244 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.600 is enough there to where I do think that like it might be worth an 245 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:22.879 upgrade. I think about all those little things like the first one Bluetooth, 246 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:24.879 I played with my AirPods on the plane, and you know, if I 247 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:26.679 have to go to the bathroom or something and I got to just put it 248 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:30.159 in sleep mode per a second. It's not a huge deal, but I 249 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:33.919 would have to go into the settings into Bluetooth reconnect my AirPods every single time. 250 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:37.360 And now the new Bluetooth driver on this, it just connects. It's 251 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:41.440 totally fine. I've tested that little parks like it running cooler and quieter, 252 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:43.440 things like that, Like it's not just lip service, you know. I've 253 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:46.879 spent a couple of weeks with them now and it really is. And the 254 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:50.559 battery life thing on the way out there, I had I was playing Dave 255 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:52.120 the Diver and I had to do like a pit stop during my layover and 256 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.279 like charge I just played for like two hours day the Diver and I had 257 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:58.399 to recharge it and then go on the next leg. With this, with 258 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:00.519 the battery life, I probably could have just gone the whole way and not 259 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:07.440 had a charge. It is a little crazy to sit here almost two years 260 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:10.840 after the release of the original steam Deck and be like, well, finally 261 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:15.399 the definitive steam Deck. Yeah, that's the right. I think I agree 262 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:18.039 with you, Like it's like, then, what have we been using? 263 00:16:18.159 --> 00:16:23.200 But I think the original steam Deck wasn't It wasn't just a proof of concept. 264 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:26.519 It was better than that. But it definitely felt like them proving to 265 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:30.720 themselves that they could do this and then people would care. And I think 266 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:33.519 even they were a little surprised that people cared enough that they're like, oh, 267 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:36.000 had we known this thing was going to sell like this, Had we 268 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:38.679 known developers we're gonna get on board the way that they have, we would 269 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:41.440 have done this and this and that, and now this has all those extra 270 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:45.039 things in there. Now if you have, if you are someone who's already 271 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:48.840 bought one and you're feeling burned, yeah, I don't blame you. You 272 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:52.799 gotta maybe yeah, go ahead. I was gonna I was gonna say like, 273 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:56.519 yeah, I can understand why you might feel burned, but I and 274 00:16:56.919 --> 00:17:02.279 I would definitely feel have some element. But having played it, like I 275 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:04.559 this is going to sound like I'm talking shit, but like it doesn't at 276 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:10.000 all diminish what the steam Deck is. Like. Sure the screen is like 277 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:12.480 not as amazing, but in terms of in its and power, it's the 278 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:17.640 exact same thing. And yes, the battery life is isn't as good, 279 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:22.160 but the fundamental experience that you're having with a steam Deck is the same. 280 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:26.480 And for a lot of people, I feel like that is the kind of 281 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:30.960 like now that's the cheaper entry point, and I feel like that's important to 282 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:33.240 kind of not like cast aside. And because I know we have a hit, 283 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:36.559 we have like a tendency to be like new thing is better than old 284 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:38.440 thing, thus old thing must be thrown into sun. But like, no, 285 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:41.960 this thing is one of those ones where it's like it's the new one 286 00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:45.400 is good to have if you're about to buy one for the first time. 287 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:49.000 Amazing, But I've I would have no issue having experienced a buff. I 288 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:52.559 would have no issue just carrying on with my current steam Deck because it is 289 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:56.400 still very, very nice. And they also promised that a lot of the 290 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:00.880 up the software updates that they're learning to do, because they're putting so much 291 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.640 work into this, they're going to bring as many of those to the original 292 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:07.440 steam Deck as possible the Steam Deck LCD as possible. Have you said something 293 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.440 about, like, you know, them testing the waters with the first one, 294 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:11.319 And I can kind of understand that too, because you look at their 295 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:15.880 history with hardware. It was went the Steam link, the Steam controller, 296 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:18.359 things that are in the hardware Steam issues. That's the thing, Like, 297 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:22.480 none of that stuff took off, and so I think when this got announced, 298 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:25.079 it's like, all right, that sounds great in theory, but let's 299 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:26.880 see. And I feel like this was the first piece of hardware from them 300 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:30.319 where people were like, oh, wait, that's actually like this kicks ass. 301 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:33.519 And the reality is like the first it's a PC, but they're treating 302 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:36.039 like a console. And this is something I talked to Laurren seeing about as 303 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:38.759 well, and they're like, we really like that it's both. We really 304 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:41.240 like that it's open and you could do whatever you want with it, but 305 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:45.359 then we can make the experience as as simple as possible. And and it 306 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:51.079 started not not quite there, it got there pretty quickly with updates, and 307 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:53.039 now they're so far beyond that that it's like, oh, they're making improvements 308 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:57.160 to this thing that just improved the quality of life so much that it's really 309 00:18:57.200 --> 00:19:00.240 noticeable, and it's like, oh, man, I this is almost the 310 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:04.920 ideal consoleized experience that I want when I'm picking up a device and it's for 311 00:19:06.039 --> 00:19:10.480 a PC, let's finish up on the screen. It's not just HDR, 312 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:12.599 it's not just a thousand nits, it's not just OLED. It's also ninety 313 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:15.519 hertz. And there's some benefits there. For one, you can run games 314 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:18.880 at ninety frames per second, some games that would be fine with the improved 315 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:22.680 battery life. That's actually possible and reasonable for some things. But also you 316 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:26.799 can run games like I usually do at forty five frames per second, and 317 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:30.640 it just there's this one slider. Now you move it down to forty five 318 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:33.799 frames per second and it will run the games at forty five frames per second, 319 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:37.440 and then double the frames like they do for the VR devices, to 320 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:41.720 ninety hertz, so it actually smooths it out even more. And then there's 321 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:45.079 another option, go down to thirty frames per second and use frame tripling to 322 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:48.920 not get back to ninety hertz, and it makes thirty frames per second look 323 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:51.440 way smoother than it's ever really looked for me. And I'm like, whoa, 324 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:53.799 this is actually really impressive stuff. So a lot of options to say 325 00:19:53.799 --> 00:20:00.480 battery and still get a really nice image quality. That's awesome. Yeah, 326 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:03.319 so we'll get some other stuff, but so far, back Lar, do 327 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:04.960 you have any questions that I have some questions from people on Twitter. We 328 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:08.039 maybe we get some questions from chat if we need to, But anything that 329 00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:12.680 comes to mind that you want to ask about Backlar, I think for me, 330 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:18.720 I was curious more about Like it sounds like I already know the answer 331 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:23.240 to this question, but I always found like the touch pad squares that flank 332 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:27.559 the screen to just sort of be like a little pointless in a lot of 333 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:30.279 ways. And you're completely wrong about that. But I understand why you say 334 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:36.200 that, right, Like you know, I find myself using them by accident 335 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:41.960 more than deliberately. Uh, maybe you could change my opinion on their usefulness. 336 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:44.599 Well, so they didn't prove the haptics on there, right, Is 337 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:45.480 that what you're going to mention, Dan? Yeah, the actics better. 338 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:48.640 Well, I was going to say that, like if you're not doing a 339 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:51.920 lot of like Linux and emulator stuff, like that's where it really comes in, 340 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:53.960 like an ideal way to kind of do that is like Bluetooth mouse and 341 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:57.240 keyboard. But if I'm you know, on a plane or something and I 342 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:00.799 just need to get into Linux and like move a file into another fold or 343 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:03.720 whatever, that's when you're using those track pads and like for those like kind 344 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:06.720 of short use, you know, but it's like it's fine. It's not 345 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:08.920 just a mouse though, Like you can use the Steam So Steam is great 346 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:15.240 because of Steam controller input, and they basically can make these thumb thump pads 347 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:18.440 do anything, and you could turn them into radial menus for any game. 348 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:22.799 You turn them into radial menus for any emulator so that you don't have to 349 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:26.240 like bring up a keyboard on your virtual screen and hit this and do alt 350 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:29.400 F four whatever to get out of thing. You could just set that to 351 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:33.640 a radial menu input. And it's because it's Steam. It's like universal for 352 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:36.599 all these games and not just that you don't have to do it yourself. 353 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:40.240 The community is doing these things and you could just download the profile and apply 354 00:21:40.279 --> 00:21:42.079 it to a game, apply it to emulators, and it just works. 355 00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:45.839 It's kind of it's magic stuff. But the haptics are better, and yeah, 356 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:48.759 that's noticeable as well. It's like all a million tiny little things like 357 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:52.599 that that are noticeable once you start using it. I've also used those things 358 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:56.279 for like games are point and click adventure games for example, that are in 359 00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:00.519 early access that I haven't reached the point yet where they optimize for Steam, 360 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:03.920 and that's been like super helpful for me as well. Like I don't use 361 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:06.480 them a lot, but there have been moments where I've been like, oh, 362 00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:08.799 I can just use mouse, great, fantastic and it does feel a 363 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:12.559 little better now, yes, exactly. Yeah. I tried it with like 364 00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:15.720 Command and Conquer a Red Alert remastered and like you can do the mouse, 365 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:19.039 but with that just fine, let me see im. Lets se if I 366 00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:22.319 get some of these questions. In the meantime, I don't know any other 367 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:23.880 big things about the Steam that you doesn't want to mention some of these. 368 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:30.680 The one thing I will mention, like is they on paper? I believe 369 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:34.319 the the like change in weight is like like is it thirty grams or something 370 00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:37.680 like that. It's like they said, it's like five. I have to 371 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:47.359 look at the press thirty longer battery life and then it's like five. Yeah, 372 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:49.279 it loses on paper if you get if you can look at the exact 373 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:55.119 number. On paper, it doesn't look like a massive like drop in in 374 00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:59.200 like the weight, but when you play it and hold it, I feel 375 00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:03.240 like it feels lighter, and over time you get less of that fatigue that 376 00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:08.559 you often get with the original steam deck. Yeah. So so I feel 377 00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:14.680 like the weight is a pretty good good like change, an important one for 378 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:17.920 me as someone who likes to do long sessions. Yeah. On the video 379 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:21.160 we did the YouTube video we did with it, we did like the blind 380 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:23.160 test where it's like I put on a sleep mask and had Jan Handy. 381 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:27.079 Both women like it was immediately noticeable. Yeah, uh yeah. The press 382 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:30.960 kid says thirty longer battery life. It does just say lighter. I wonder 383 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:36.240 if it's it's like, okay, you know what the hereo hereo reduction of 384 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:40.160 five percent five percent, it's a six hundred and forty grams down from six 385 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:42.759 hundred and sixty nine grams sixteen And that's right. Then you started by saying 386 00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:45.519 that doesn't sound like a lot. You notice it, You notice it, 387 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:49.039 Yeah, you feel it, especially in those longer sessions. Like, especially 388 00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:53.759 in those longer sessions, there's like a I feel like the weight the slight 389 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:59.680 weight change also makes it feel more like ergonomically better, Like I realized that 390 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:03.279 because I was playing the rock ally, and the Rock ally is a less 391 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:07.680 like it's more of a shop design, if you know what I mean. 392 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:11.759 But I can felt like I play it for way longer because it's lighter, 393 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:15.559 and I can hold it for much longer. And now that this is lighter, 394 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:18.119 I feel like I'm able to play it for much longer. I think 395 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:22.640 it's in my hand. Yeah, it's in the comfort zone now, even 396 00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:26.640 though like the physically it hasn't changed too much. I always liked the shape 397 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:29.240 of the steam deck. It really just was there's something about the weight or 398 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:33.640 the weight balance that made it slightly more fatiguing than I was expecting. And 399 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:36.720 now now I think that this is on like yeah, the other side of 400 00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:40.720 that that comfort zone where it's now safely in that green zone where it's like, 401 00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:42.000 okay, I can use this for an extended period of time, and 402 00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:47.759 I am again because of the battery life, all right, there's some questions 403 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:52.720 here, how are the temperatures holding it after hours of prolonged use literally one 404 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:56.039 compared to the switch O led But I think for me, I've noticed that 405 00:24:56.119 --> 00:25:00.519 it's much cooler, much cooler overall. Yeah, a contract, it's cooler 406 00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:04.480 overall, or if the heat is distributed in a way where it's less noticeable, 407 00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:08.240 well it is. So they were usually the seven nanimeter a die for 408 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:12.319 the original steam deck, and now this uses a six nanimeter so, and 409 00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:17.400 because they are keeping it on the exact same performance profile, just physics means 410 00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:21.200 they would be producing less heat to get to the same performance with a small 411 00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:26.559 with a shrunk down die. So and it's actually producing less heat improved thermal 412 00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:32.000 performance due to larger fangs. I don't know about you guys, but like 413 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:34.559 it doesn't the fan doesn't sound as aggressive to me, maybe much because I 414 00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:37.680 haven't I haven't like played a game that forces it to kick into super high 415 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.799 gear. But I remember when I played the original was like, man, 416 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:44.599 this is loud. I need to put headphones in because it's drowning out the 417 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:45.839 audio coming out of this. But now I'm just like, oh, this 418 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:49.079 is much quiet. So I had the steam Deck that they originally sent me 419 00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:52.160 for a review, and that one apparently had a different fan than what went 420 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:56.680 out to all the customers, and so mine's always been relatively quiet. And 421 00:25:56.759 --> 00:25:59.799 yet this one is noticeably more quiet now that. One of the best parts 422 00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:03.039 of the video Dan that you and Jan put together was that moment where he 423 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:07.079 had the shotgun Mike Pony pointed at each one and you could hear the difference. 424 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:10.559 It was immediately noticeable how much quieter the new the new ola was. 425 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:15.039 Yeah, yeah, all right, let's see, uh would you guys? 426 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:18.119 Okay, So, like, if you do have a raj Ally Tam, 427 00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:22.480 you're still gonna go back and play that because it's more powerful or what. 428 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:27.839 I don't know. I feel like I haven't had them long enough to really 429 00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:32.880 define the thing about it is. Steam is so good man like now It's 430 00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:36.799 like sometimes I'll be like, I use my roger Ally as my like in 431 00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:41.359 bed device, where I'll keep it by my bedside, whereas the Steam that 432 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:44.880 goes like with me. And because like the way that cloud Save works, 433 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:48.359 it's so easy to move back and forth between them, I do come back 434 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:52.799 to the the Roger Allies power is is like still a bit of a advantage, 435 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.039 but I usually only use it when I know that that power is gonna 436 00:26:56.079 --> 00:27:00.640 actually help. Same like Ball of Gate three runs a bit better on the 437 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:04.519 Roger Ally. The problem with the Roja ally is the armory crate thing is 438 00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:07.440 just annoying. I hate that it boots. It's bad software. Yeah, 439 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.799 it's bad software. Whereas the steam Deck has got like super nice, super 440 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:17.200 easy to use and like esthetically pleasing software. So if it's a game that 441 00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:21.559 really won't benefit from a little bump in power, I'll just default to the 442 00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:26.519 steam Deck because it is lighter and it feels like existing in that ecosystem is 443 00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:30.680 more intuitive on the steam Deck than it is on the Roger. Ally, 444 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:34.079 even though you can do it there. Crooked View chat says, have you 445 00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:40.160 tried Bluetooth headphones at all? Does it still have the bad audio delay? 446 00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.880 Now, they always had apt x apt X, which means if you would 447 00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:48.240 have had a certain kind of wireless head phones, you could get low latency 448 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.160 Bluetooth. But the chances are, like the fact that if you were not 449 00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:53.720 going in the setting to making sure that everything was working right, you're probably 450 00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:57.799 getting just that basic level of Bluetooth, which does have really bad audio delay. 451 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:00.640 But the good news is they got a new Bluetooth radio in here. 452 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:06.440 Five point two that will probably help a little bit. Three five point three, 453 00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:08.039 thank you, that will probably help with Bluetooth audio a little bit. 454 00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:11.559 What that's really gonna help with, though, is if you want to dock 455 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.880 this thing to your TV and have maybe up to eight controllers connected, it 456 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.960 might be able to support that. It's definitely gonna better than the original Steam. 457 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:23.400 They said. It will support multiple controllers and it will do it better 458 00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:26.599 without the cross talk that the previous Steel exactly. Oh yeah, I know 459 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.559 that was a thing. I think there's a test we're gonna need to do 460 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.680 because Grub, you've got that bullshit thing you say about how you can wake 461 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.160 up your switch with a by shaking your controller's yeah, that's true. There's 462 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:41.880 no way that's real. It says here that it now supports wake via Bluetooth 463 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.640 controller. So the question is, can you turn on your Steam deck by 464 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:48.200 shaking another controller? All right, I'll get that connected and mobile, see 465 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:49.319 if we can make that happen of it? Okay, yeah, yeah, 466 00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:56.680 I wonder. I'm gonna assume that is the case, because that's not like 467 00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.599 an exclusive to the switch thing. No, try and throw it against that 468 00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:07.319 closet mirror. If that it works, I feel like that's what it is, 469 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.359 right, Like, that's the wake up gesture for that like the apid 470 00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:12.519 doh thing, right, Like for sure, that's how it wakes up my 471 00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:17.079 then you connect to the switch bea bluetooth. I would imagine that's how it 472 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:18.519 works. Yeah, it seems just to be its wake up signal with that 473 00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:25.000 a good set. Yes, let's see. Uh, we all have the 474 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:26.640 one terribies, so that means we all have the etched glass, little kind 475 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.119 of more reflective glass. I guess I compared that to my ring one that's 476 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:34.799 the non reflective. I think it looks pretty good in most situations I'm going 477 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:37.759 to be playing it in. It's not going to be when it's daylight where 478 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.599 there's gonna be a lot of sun kind of beating down on it. But 479 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.160 I would imagine with the one thousand knits, this is probably actually going to 480 00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:48.160 be a better experience outside. I don't know, how do you guys feel 481 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.240 about that etched glass on the way. They did specifically say that they wanted 482 00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:55.400 to be more playable outside with the brightness. I think it definitely is. 483 00:29:55.880 --> 00:30:00.799 I've not played it outside because of imboggos and confidentiality and don't play this outside, 484 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:07.000 yes exactly. Yeah, so yeah, so I can't say for that, 485 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:08.559 but I have played it in a very well lit room, which is 486 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:11.720 the room that I'm in now, and it's definitely not as much of an 487 00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:15.519 issue like the glare and not being able to properly see stuff. It seems 488 00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.240 fine. All right, two more things. How do you feel about the 489 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:21.839 orange power button? I love it? Love it, I love it, 490 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:25.559 I love it. Yeah. Have you seen the translucent one? The edition 491 00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:29.480 they're doing that last question? Dan, you got to see the translucent one 492 00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:33.200 and you didn't get to take it home though, right, No? No, 493 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.960 I told him I was a big mark for the fantastic against sixty four 494 00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:41.160 stuff, and yeah, a little bit about that one. Yeah, yeah, 495 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:44.200 I'm moudeled my PS five to ye. I had the like translucent blades 496 00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:45.599 and everything. I just love that look. And so yeah, it's like 497 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.759 a limited one terabyte that they're putting out. I don't know if they said 498 00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.160 the specific amount that they're putting out, but there's more orange on that. 499 00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:56.519 There's more like vents and things like that where you see the orange poking through. 500 00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.720 But yeah, it seems sick. Yeah, but they actually had to 501 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:02.920 like make it out of a different material because they're like, oh yeah, 502 00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:04.599 when you make something translucent. You know, there are factors that you don't 503 00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.240 think about where it's like, oh god, we're gonna have to do a 504 00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:10.160 whole different set of drop tests on this and everything. So, uh, 505 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:12.559 they had to do all that just for this limited dition. It. Originally 506 00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:17.160 the translucent stuff they would get back and like this looks shitty, this looks 507 00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:18.720 bad. We got to like keep going at this and see what materials are 508 00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.799 actually going to work. So is more money. It's a limited edition one, 509 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.480 so it's got yeah yeah, and it's like but it's got a lot 510 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.880 of cool like accents on it. The the orange power button they like behind 511 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:33.480 the fans, it's all orange and stuff and they try to make that all 512 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:36.599 over the place and it's just orange. Is so back in such a big 513 00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:40.240 big Yeah, it's big again, Spice orange taking over the world. Like 514 00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:45.200 originally got a transparent orange red. Okay, let's I'm bad at colors, 515 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:49.200 so an orange. I think they I think they said it was orange in 516 00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:53.359 their in their video. Oh no, in the translucent one. When I 517 00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:57.160 looked at him, Oh there's the translucent one. Yeah, I thought it 518 00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.279 looked red, but they said it was to mat the orange power button. 519 00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:05.400 So I think they won't want it to be orange an over video. Who 520 00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:08.039 knows how that's always gonna play. I mean orange, orange. Orange is 521 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:10.079 the color of valve, isn't it. Yes, exact, yeah, and 522 00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:13.200 then that's exactly what they went for it, yes, Freeman, but the 523 00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:16.839 valve itself is red. Yeah. Okay, whoa, everyone's mind is blowing 524 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:22.640 one of the portals orange, very clearly clear one of the portals. Yeah. 525 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:25.839 Yeah. I've always been been on the Orange train for years. Okay, 526 00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:30.759 So last thing here, I've had a spider Man Miles Morales on this 527 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.480 entire time. I've been trying to keep the screen awake so it's as bright 528 00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:36.960 as possible. It's HDR. I haven't set to eighty five percent brightness like 529 00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:40.559 they say, And I mean the battery thing, it's just not it's barely 530 00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:45.240 moved. Uh So okay, you know I started at eighty percent battery. 531 00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:49.240 It's down to sixty nine percent battery. And that's it's just been running. 532 00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.319 You know, I don't have anything special on it. I think I have 533 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:55.279 it at forty five frames per second. Yeah, it's it's it's real nice. 534 00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.920 That's been the biggest thing for me. It's just feel more perfident using 535 00:32:59.920 --> 00:33:02.279 it for longer periods of time. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely quality 536 00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:10.200 of life all around. And I feel like I would probably no brainer if 537 00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:15.000 I didn't own an original Steam Deck, I would be buying this one. 538 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:20.960 But you know, obviously, like I said, more than a dozen things 539 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:23.200 where you're just like, man, all these little parts add up to something 540 00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:31.079 greater that stead performance wise under the hood, it's uh, it's it's not 541 00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:35.759 going to really perform better, right. They wanted to be exactly the same 542 00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.240 as what they said, right, So I think at a certain degree, 543 00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:43.200 like there is a bit of a ceiling here, and I think that's probably, 544 00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:46.720 like I said, for me, the deciding factor about upgrading sort of 545 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:51.039 mid generation if you will. How do you guys? How do you guys? 546 00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.559 I think that's completely fair, right, Yeah, yeah, I said 547 00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:57.440 like that. They describe it as the best version of the original Steam Deck. 548 00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.319 Yeah, and you haven't very much, Yeah, I mean much. 549 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.880 I don't know. It depends on who you are, because like I remember 550 00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:07.279 when Nintendo made that switch, not the O lead, just the model that 551 00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:09.960 I had better battery. I did swap it out. I did buy the 552 00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:13.239 new ones. So it's like, I don't know, if you were something 553 00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:15.159 that always wants the newest model and newest bells and whistles and stuff, like, 554 00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:19.559 I would have bought this, you know. I mean if I would, 555 00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:22.079 if I would have spent my own money on this, and I would 556 00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:23.880 have sold the original steam Deck on like a craiglist or something, I would 557 00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:28.079 probably feel pretty good about this because I I think I did some similar with 558 00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:31.159 the with the switch where I had a launch switch, I uh, I 559 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:35.119 think I actually gave that one away, and then I have a switch O 560 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:38.519 lead and I'm like, this is just an O lead screen And the battery 561 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:42.239 was improved, So that was that improved there as well, because they did 562 00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:44.639 the same thing. They shrunk the dye. But it's like those two things 563 00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:46.280 that was enough. I was. I love my switch old and I used 564 00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:50.480 it all the time in handhel mode all the time. This having those same 565 00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:53.639 two improvements and a kind of a couple dozen other small things on top of 566 00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:57.719 that, uh, it really makes the case. Now. You know, 567 00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:00.039 if you are looking at the price, Dan, are you looking at the 568 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:04.760 fact sheet? You have the private Okay, yes, so the steam Deck 569 00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.079 LCD, the previous model, the two fifty six, isn't it go ahead? 570 00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:09.199 Yeah, no, it's gonna say the storage side, yes, but 571 00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:13.199 you got it, go ahead. Yeah, the two fifty six old model 572 00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:15.599 LCD is three ninety nine now, so that got a price cut. And 573 00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:20.440 then the three models of the O lead. So the five to twelve is 574 00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:23.000 five hundred and forty nine dollars, the one terabyte is six hundred and forty 575 00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:28.119 nine dollars, and the limited one is six seventy nine, also one terabyte. 576 00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:30.480 They are they also they're going to continue selling the LCD models or the 577 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:35.360 other versions until they sell out. So like there's a five twelve, and 578 00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.400 there's yeah two and fifty six, and the five to twelve and then so 579 00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:40.599 and then also just the SD card one, right, the one that has 580 00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:45.760 the eMMC memory. They're going to keep selling two of those until they sell 581 00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:47.400 out, and then the two is it the two hundred fifty six get gigabyte 582 00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:52.000 model or the five to twelve that's sticking around fifty six? Second round? 583 00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:55.679 Okay? Okay? Cool? Yeah? Well, hey, I've been excited 584 00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:58.960 about it. I've been using it a ton. I'm someone who likes these 585 00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:01.239 things a lot, but I forgot my ally, even though I don't really 586 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:05.079 like using my ally because of Windows and because of the software on there. 587 00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:07.760 I just kind of like the faulted to that because it was running things better. 588 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:09.360 And now I'm so happy to be back on the steam deck because of 589 00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:13.400 the experience, and the screen is so good in the battery like so so 590 00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:16.840 just it's it's just real nice. Yeah, Okay, there's a bunch of 591 00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:20.920 there's a bunch of like small things as well that oh yeah, I always 592 00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:23.320 say like there's it's I feel like it's a on paper, it looks like 593 00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:27.480 a bunch of like random bits and pieces that changed it. You're like, 594 00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:30.199 yeah, it's not that great, but when you the experience of how it 595 00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:32.599 comes together, you're like, Okay, I see why it's worth it. 596 00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:37.360 Like even small things like the the kind of texture on the thumbstick, like 597 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.519 the it's it just like grips a bit better and it's less like the thumbsticks. 598 00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:45.800 That's right, feels like improve Yeah. My my original thumbstick was a 599 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:47.320 little it felt a little shop on my fingers, if you know what. 600 00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:52.280 Yeah, and this one feels just a little more comfortable. So it's good. 601 00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.679 Any aesthetic changes to underneath the thumbsticks it's now black instead of kind of 602 00:36:55.679 --> 00:37:00.239 that white gray. And also the the letters themselves on the face buttons are 603 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.199 more of a darker gray than more of that white light gray before. So 604 00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.280 some little aesthetic changes like that, but it still looks like a Steam deck. 605 00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:10.679 And I think they said like it's its height is like one millimeter different 606 00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:15.280 difference, a different than the labored But basically what that means is it's such 607 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:20.159 a small difference in terms of form factor that if you have any accessories that 608 00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:22.440 you bought for the original steam deck, it will just work. And all 609 00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:24.400 the ones that have been manufactured in are sitting on shelves. If this is 610 00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:27.920 your first Steam deck, you could just go pick from those and they will 611 00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.880 all just like snap right on, no problem. This inspired me to finally 612 00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:32.559 buy a dock for it, and obviously it was an old one since this 613 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:35.880 sidn't been announced. Yea, and it works totally fine. Yep, yep. 614 00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:37.000 I got my dock set up too, and I've been doing the same 615 00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:42.079 thing. Okay, we're gonna take a quick break when we get back to 616 00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:45.239 Inspired by this topic, Dan, you wanted to talk about the best games 617 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:47.960 to play portably, right, The best portable game of all time. Let's 618 00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:51.800 figure it out. All right, We're going to talk about that right after 619 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:57.760 this. All right, we're back and we've got a top discussed. This 620 00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:00.840 is what we do on a bomb cast Revenge Gents, where we talk about 621 00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:04.039 games we missed, embargoes we missed. But then we want to have a 622 00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:07.960 conversation that might be a little bit longer lasting because we did just get our 623 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.639 Steam decks, and by us I mean me Tam and Dan Jeff Baslar. 624 00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.880 Yes, we kick the non Steam deck. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 625 00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:20.079 the cool kids are here. Human Trek has replaced him in Human Trek's not 626 00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:22.159 gonna have much to say. Uh Dan, what are you thinking here? 627 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:25.519 How do we going to approach this? Let's just talk. We're all adults. 628 00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:29.039 We're gonna have a conversation here. We do this with Game of the 629 00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:31.159 Year. We've determined many things in categories. This is simple. This is 630 00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:35.480 one category. What we wants the best portable game of all time. And 631 00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:37.800 that's the goal to define the best portable game of all time. Yeah, 632 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:43.000 okay, links Awakening settle, Let's go No. One of the week of 633 00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:45.199 sell the games. All right, So here's another thing about why links Awakening 634 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:50.719 isn't the best ever are? To me? The a portable game to me 635 00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:53.679 is synonymous with like I want that time travel aspect where it's like because I 636 00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:57.559 think about it on planes all the time, because that's generally where I've played 637 00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.800 portable games. Or there was a really arc period of my life. It 638 00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:06.400 was my first semester of college where I went into classes and sat there and 639 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.480 there were dudes standing at the front trying to teach me things and it was 640 00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:13.559 harrowing. It was just awful. And it was the Game Boy Advance sp 641 00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:16.159 that got me through that. So I look at games like Final Fantasy Tactics 642 00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:21.440 Advance, which like made an hour long class go buy in a blink or 643 00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:24.440 a flight I think of Across three D. I think of a shout out 644 00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:28.679 to Lucy who wanted those to plash for Vampire Survivors. Yes, games like 645 00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:32.079 that that can take things that can be a chore like a flight or school, 646 00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:36.320 and you can make it go really fast and make it there I say 647 00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.719 fun. And so that's to me when I think portable games, that's what 648 00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:42.760 I think of. I Okay, it's cool that you think of that. 649 00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.320 I think of Links Awakening. Let's go it's it. That's it, all 650 00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:47.679 right, we got it. It's a confusing, not grade zella game and 651 00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:52.800 it's got that shitty olive the original game Boy. Yeah my god, you 652 00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:54.480 had to like figure out one puzzle and you got scared by it and that 653 00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:58.599 explains it all. Now, okay, I you know what, I like 654 00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:01.239 your definition there. Uh, you're probably right, Like if we're talking about 655 00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:06.880 the fact that it's portable, does make it does make the difference there. 656 00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:10.480 I will say though, because of the Steam Deck recently, my definition of 657 00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:14.599 like what makes time go by when I'm playing at portable game has changed a 658 00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:16.400 little bit. Uh. The one that comes to my first is Elden Ring. 659 00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:19.320 Now I just want to throw it out there, just maybe to get 660 00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.480 out of the way. But that was a very good portable game and it 661 00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.280 really did just eat up time. And I have camp battery too. It's 662 00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:30.280 a battery that I think that's against it portably by Alton Ring on the airplane. 663 00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:32.800 What are you gonna fight? One hundred and fifty hours on my Steam 664 00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:37.039 Deck and like maybe like an hour or two on my PC. Uh, 665 00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:40.719 So I was fine playing most of it on my handheld device. Yeah, 666 00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:45.920 I would like I don't think like a battery life is a we're talking about 667 00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.719 the best game. We're not talking about best hardware impacted by you know, 668 00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:52.400 a game. Every game on Steam you're opening it up, They like, 669 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:57.159 that's just a game. I don't think. I don't think every game on 670 00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:00.639 Steam cuts it like I don't think most games on Steam cut it next to 671 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:05.000 like a portable version of or a portable game on a game by advance. 672 00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:07.000 For me, like I want, the question I have is like what makes 673 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:10.000 the best portable game? Is it like a singular experience that you have that 674 00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:13.800 is like amazing and sticks with you, or is it the fact that this 675 00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:15.639 game's got a longevity that means that you can come back to it over and 676 00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:20.960 over Because Vampire Survivors is like the forever game right like you can. I 677 00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:22.559 wouldn't put it as my favorite. But if I had to say, like, 678 00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:25.960 what's my one of my most memorable portable game experiences, I'd say like 679 00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:31.440 maybe Metro Fusion or peace Walker or something like that. So it's the criteria. 680 00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:35.599 Hey, you know well, I would think once that are benefited by 681 00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.199 the portable nature, And I think Nintendo is always on bout this, Like 682 00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:42.000 what you're saying, I guess, yeah, that ends right there in your 683 00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:45.000 hands. Yes, I think it's a game that you can pick up and 684 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:46.760 play for like five minutes or something. You could sit down and sink your 685 00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:51.039 teeth in two for five hours, and like, I think Nintendo really got 686 00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.800 that right, especially during that like DS three DS era there's lots of Animal 687 00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:59.079 Crossings, or remember an early DS where it's like Sidoku and brain Age and 688 00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:00.639 all these games were like you could pick up play for like, you know, 689 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:04.599 five minutes while you're waiting for a doctor's appointment to start or something closing, 690 00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:06.559 and you're good to go play it on a bus ride it's ten minutes 691 00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:12.039 long, okay, or yeah with that with that criteria in mind, because 692 00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:14.679 you you were like, oh brain Age, that kind of stuff. No, 693 00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.400 those are not video games. Those are stealth. I would I wouldn't 694 00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:21.800 plush for those, but like they were example, I'm submitting for discussion, 695 00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:30.679 uh two games fire Emblem on Awakening. Yeah that's the one I would go 696 00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:36.320 to. Yeah, Advance Wars, I really like a danswer Wers. Both 697 00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:38.840 are really good. Yes, those are like those are like replayable games. 698 00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:45.599 Yes, what about Warrior Ware? I like Warrior where a whole bunch, 699 00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:50.559 dude. That's uh yeah, Warrior Way is good, but like it has 700 00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:57.719 a limited Like I feel like shelf life compared to something like, uh Fire 701 00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:00.280 Emblem or Advance Wars to me, but the thing is fire and I'm in 702 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:02.000 Advance Wars. I think I would be hesitanting if I was on a bus 703 00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:06.079 ride that was going to be like twenty minutes long, I'd be hesitant to 704 00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.679 start a fight because it's like some of those go long and sometimes there's cut 705 00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:13.760 scenes afterwards and ship you gotta do it in the town afterwards. Like it's 706 00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.079 not like Warriorware. I know, if I have five minutes, I can 707 00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:19.840 still get a full experience with the Warriorware in there, you know. Or 708 00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:24.320 with Awakening you just you know, got the Clamp Show. Yeah, Awakening 709 00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:28.760 was really fucking good. Yeah, yeah, I don't make a big difference. 710 00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:30.719 Yes, because the fact that you could put things in these things in 711 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:34.239 the sleep mode, it kind of brings a lot of these games many so 712 00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:37.000 good to be in the middle of the game and close that clamp Show, 713 00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:39.719 You're like, I'm just like I'm locking up this world. Yeah myself, 714 00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:45.480 right back up. The second you open it. Yeah, Fire and Bloom, 715 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.440 Fire and Bloom. I feel like fire Milam Awakening is a fantastic, 716 00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:52.480 fantastic one. Same with like peace Walkers. While I love peace Walker came, 717 00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:55.960 uh, I'm you guys are playing into the Breach? Yeah, to 718 00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:59.679 go into the Breach is a phenomenal on. Yeah, that's a really good 719 00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:02.199 one. That realm, it's one that boy, that that one is bite 720 00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:06.800 sized levels. Uh, it is. You can so you can pick it 721 00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.199 up and play and at the same time, if you get it into like 722 00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:13.039 a good run or you can get in the zone, it can eat up 723 00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:16.000 time and make it melt away. And it's it's little and easy to understand, 724 00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:20.559 but like has a ton of depth. So it's like it's just goes 725 00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:22.320 up and down and left and right in terms of filling up a really good 726 00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:30.360 portable experience. Hey, hey, listen, I would like to submit Thevania 727 00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:36.000 games. Yea, all three DS ones, all three They all kick out 728 00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.840 bangus like they are some of the best gaming that you. Yes, they 729 00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:44.559 are. If I had to pick one and say, maybe Aria of Sorrow 730 00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:53.199 or maybe Order Ecclesia is really good too. Aria Sorrow is probably yeah, 731 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:57.440 yeah, yeah, Ari Aria is probably the one that I would go for 732 00:44:57.559 --> 00:44:59.599 order of the case. It's pretty good. I love Circle the Moon, 733 00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:01.119 but I'm like, I'm not gonna try to push because I know that's a 734 00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:05.440 perversion of mine. So I would go with our. Also, those games 735 00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:08.440 are like repackaged and available on Switch now. Yeah, they're so fucking good 736 00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:16.920 collection advanced collection, which sting. I don't know. I feel like Ario 737 00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:22.480 Sorrows Caslovania is a solid entry for all right down. Yeah, as a 738 00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:28.800 real contender, collecting all those souls like formless I have. I have more 739 00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:31.639 phone collecting all those souls than I've ever had collecting any Pokemon in any Pokemon. 740 00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:35.440 Yeah, for sure, feel like a bone archer and take a soul 741 00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:37.880 and then you can throw bones. It's like, man, the collect of 742 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:42.559 like the little game Boy Advance effect of this little sprite just popping out of 743 00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:46.840 this guy because you hit them and it's just like circling. Yeah, it's 744 00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:50.679 good to be surrounded by other smart people. This is nice. Yeah. 745 00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:53.000 Anythings coming to life and trying to kill you, yeah, God damn it. 746 00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:59.280 I didn't even have it written down, but you're so right. Okay, 747 00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:01.440 here's the short list. I'm putting together a little shortlist here, like 748 00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:04.800 it's a game of the year deal. Here's what I have on here right 749 00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:07.519 now, and tell me which ones we can just straight up takeoff. I 750 00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:10.199 got Fire and Bloom, Awakening Into the Breach, Ari of Sorrow, I 751 00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:15.159 love the Cross, I love Warrior Ware, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. Dare 752 00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:20.360 I say Tetris, Yeah, Tetris is good. Yeah, I think Tetris 753 00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:22.239 is a good one. Yeah. I mean we could put it on the 754 00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:25.599 shortlist. Yeah, and then Vampire Survivors. That's what I have here. 755 00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:30.000 I feel like we should probably have like Luminez on there or something that. 756 00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:31.840 Luminis is a bang, as you know, it is really great and definitely, 757 00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:36.559 like I would say, potentially even the best PSP game. But I 758 00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:38.599 don't know if it hangs against these other ones, you know, Okay, 759 00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:45.199 what about what about Hades? Yeah? Fuck, Hades is a good one. 760 00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:47.039 It's really good. So again, it's like so strong in so many 761 00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:51.800 ways. Now, It's it's not exactly bite size, but you could, 762 00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:53.920 you know, go in sleep mode and come back and you're not gonna have 763 00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:57.480 that hard of a time getting back into it most of the time. No, 764 00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:01.280 but boy, just have in that game up in your face and playing 765 00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:05.960 it for long periods of time in your own little world. Hades is real 766 00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:08.079 good at that. Have you played that on the old Steam deck? I 767 00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:10.599 have not, but I downloaded because you and Jam were telling me to do. 768 00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:15.800 It looks good. Yes, we had a side by side with the 769 00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:20.360 switch O lead version, and man they look both of them look good. 770 00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:25.159 But the the switch the Steam olid one is is quite nice and just runs 771 00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:30.159 way better. Yeah. Yeah, and the loading times are like snappyers. 772 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:32.320 It's just like such a good experience. Okay, we got to cut. 773 00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:37.320 We got nine of them. Here is I hate to say it, like 774 00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:40.920 I hate to be this this kind of person, but like the math games, 775 00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:45.119 they're they're not They're not the ones for me. I like the period 776 00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:52.679 games Oh Cross as well. It's like good, I understand, I understand. 777 00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:55.719 I looked at my top under games of all timeless I did, and 778 00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:58.800 that is the highest ranked. Oh no, no worry, where is my 779 00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:00.400 number one? And then across three. It's just at a certain point. 780 00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:05.960 Here's the thing. I can play Ario Sorrow or Fire Emblem for maybe four 781 00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:09.440 or five hours continuous. After about an hour of Picross it's homework, and 782 00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:15.000 it's it's it starts to feel like I've never been for us. Maybe I 783 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.039 feel like I feel like I want a little more game in my game, 784 00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.360 you know what I'm saying. My god, I had one in mine and 785 00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:25.480 we start talking about something else. It's gonna bother me. But we could 786 00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:30.239 though. All right, Okay, we got uh what what do we have 787 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:31.599 on there? The Okay, let's cut Tetris. We're not We're not gonna 788 00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:36.559 be basic bitches. Let's just cut Tetris. Okay, yeah, yes, 789 00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:38.800 Tetris effect better version. Yeah, sure, yeah, you play that on 790 00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:40.599 we can play it on switch. But we don't need to put that back 791 00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:44.840 on the list. We were just during this, I started downloading it on 792 00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:46.360 my team. Yes, oh man, yeah, it's it's good on the 793 00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:49.599 switch. Ole's it's gonna be real good on there. I feel like, 794 00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:53.079 surely we should have a Pokemon game one here. I mean it's our list, 795 00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:55.880 and I mean, like, I like Hot Gold and Soul Silver, 796 00:48:57.079 --> 00:49:00.400 I like Yellow, but I wouldn't be like fighting for it to be the 797 00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:04.760 best pull games all time. Well, tam, if you're positive on it, 798 00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.079 and I don't give a shit about Pokemon grub. Where do you land? 799 00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:09.159 I mean, I I enjoy Pokemon. Fine, I don't need to 800 00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:12.079 put it on this list, but we put on the short list. We 801 00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:15.880 can put heart Gold on there and then take it off. Yeah, just 802 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:22.199 what Jane was so extra life this weekend. No one can see this as 803 00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:24.400 the dock. But I just typed in heart Gold and now I'm heading backspace. 804 00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:28.360 So we didn't put it on and take it off, so it got 805 00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:31.800 the honors. Ye. What about called Goody Black Ops for the Nintendo DS? 806 00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:37.599 Hell? Yeah, no, the DS Modern Warfare Reflexive. No, 807 00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.880 that's the wee one, Yes, the one that's completely different. We don't 808 00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:47.000 have metro Fusion on the What about zero Mission? Zero Mission? Zero Mission 809 00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:51.119 is fantastic, but there's something about metro Fusion that I like the whole Like 810 00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:53.239 survival horror, but you can come back, come back around on fusion really 811 00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:59.840 hard the last time. So it's like it's like funnels. You we're supposed 812 00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:00.800 to go and I just don't care anymore. I'm like, that's fine, 813 00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:04.480 I expect that now. So when I go in there and play, it's 814 00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:06.519 like, oh no, it's just a really good game. It turns out 815 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.360 when you're like more falling through like a pipe, and then it freezes and 816 00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:13.400 then like the the other version of sim it's just like walks in. You're 817 00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:15.559 like, please, God, don't don't see me. No alien, It's 818 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:21.480 awesome, Yeah, incredible, it is. Okay, what do we we 819 00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:23.239 have ten? Now? Or no? We took tetras up? We have 820 00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:29.480 nine? Yeah, only one more to make it ten Ghost Pebble, No, 821 00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:35.679 let's that. No compeled to put mel gate. Let's do this. 822 00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:37.800 Let's do this. Okay, we got three of us on here, we 823 00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:39.840 got nine games. Let's go through. Each of us gets to cut one. 824 00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:44.239 No questions asked, Oh I know, can I just add this? 825 00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:46.920 This is Grand Theft, Auto, Chinatown Wars. It's pretty good, but 826 00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:52.639 you know it's not gonna have so good Okay it isname styles are fantastic. 827 00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:54.920 Yes, okay, it's just like really good way of shrinking down that experience 828 00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:58.840 down to the portable level. But fine, you're right, let's cut. 829 00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:01.360 I'm going to read these nine and then we will go around the horn and 830 00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:05.840 each of us cuts one and nobody can say shit. Okay, okay, 831 00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:10.920 all right. Across three D Warrior Ware, the first one Final Fantasy Tactics 832 00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:20.639 Advance, Vampire Survivors, Fire Emblem Awakening into the breach Aria of Sorrow Hades, 833 00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:23.679 and metrod Fusion tam cut one. And we cannot argue with you, 834 00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:29.960 say, say the FoST send me a link to the dock. I'm gonna 835 00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:32.480 put some on the screen for people. Let me just here. I've got 836 00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:39.199 terrible memories. I'm just going to discord it to you, Grub. Those 837 00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:44.920 are the games, okay, all right, it's a Across Warrior where Final 838 00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:47.159 Fantasy Tactics, Vampire Survivors, Fire Emblem Awakening into the breach Aria of Sorrow 839 00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:52.440 Hades, and metro Fusion tam war A way. I was gonna go Pick 840 00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:55.239 Cross, but I left Pick Rock because I know you love Pickcross. I 841 00:51:55.320 --> 00:52:01.960 just think more. Okay, well you look it's gone. I took it 842 00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:07.000 off. I'm just saying, like like fifteen, you're probably done. Do 843 00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:12.360 let me playing Warrior where this entire time, like my entire life. It's 844 00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:14.840 one of the never stocked. When I stood on every device, I have 845 00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:20.119 probably put three hundred hours onto the first Yeah. Same, uh okay, 846 00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:23.199 Grub, come on, Yeah, this is tough because I want all these 847 00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:28.880 games. This you know, what I I do love it. But of 848 00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:30.960 the ones I, if I had to cut one, it would be Metroid 849 00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:34.760 Fusion. Okay, I love Metroid and yeah, but that's the one I 850 00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:37.599 would cut. No, apparently, apparently not enough. I'm going to cut 851 00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:43.039 Fire Emblem because it's a great game, but because of that, like it's 852 00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.760 not really one. I can get a full session and in like five minutes 853 00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:47.760 you can't stut it. Tam. That was a great point, but I 854 00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:51.960 still feel like you'd be cutting something off in the middle where it's like, 855 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:53.920 I'm preferring a portable game that was like, no, I had a full 856 00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:57.199 experience with that, you know. Okay, that's fair, that's fair. 857 00:52:57.239 --> 00:53:00.360 All right? Then the verse six, the cross taxes the vampire survivors into 858 00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:05.039 the breach. Are you of sorrow and hades? All right? We're going 859 00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.800 back around. Is that how we're doing this? Or should we do one 860 00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.199 more round of cuts? And then we debate the final three? Did you 861 00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:13.400 put them up on screen? Show I'm doing it right now? Yes, 862 00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:17.559 I got it. There we go actually put that behind there? Do you 863 00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:20.840 just have the six? I can't see the program, I just have the 864 00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:23.039 six. Yes, I'll cut them, Olky go, let's do another round 865 00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:25.719 of cuts, and then we'll debate between the last three, and then we'll 866 00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:30.719 have two runners up in one winter. I feel like this is it was 867 00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:45.639 besides gone gone is it's evil science is what what can I do? Oh? 868 00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:47.800 God, damn it? All right, I said said, there's no 869 00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:52.760 arguing, can't argue. Okay, I'm I'm gonna do this because if I 870 00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:54.360 do this, then it guarantees one that I love. I mean, I 871 00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:57.920 love this one. To be clear, I love this one. But if 872 00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:00.679 I cut this one, the other four that are left, I would be 873 00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:04.199 happy with any of them winning. Ok I'm cutting. I'm cutting, and 874 00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:07.360 I'm sorry, Lucy James vs. Okay, hate see it. I hate 875 00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:12.400 to see it. That's right. We're going to cut. Despite of being 876 00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:16.119 a fantastic choice into the breach. I understand. It's at this point I'm 877 00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:19.639 like, that might be my number one choice. Looking at what we have 878 00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:22.119 left here, it's great, but I get it. I get all. 879 00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:25.960 These are three. These three are amazing. Now, it's amazing. They're 880 00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:30.719 all gonna they're all gonna medal here audio listeners. We so we're left with 881 00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:36.199 final Fantasy Tactics Advanced Cansylvania, Aria of Sorrow, and Hades. All Right, 882 00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:39.440 I think this is gonna be my argument for Ari of Sorrow because it 883 00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:44.159 does fit those criteria so well. Of like, if I play it for 884 00:54:44.199 --> 00:54:49.000 a little bit and then I say and quit, I still made progress. 885 00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:51.800 It's not like a story thing. It's like I could I could level up 886 00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:53.000 a couple of times, I get a few souls or whatever I am, 887 00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:55.760 I find a new save room or something that I'm done. That could be 888 00:54:55.760 --> 00:55:00.360 a five to ten minute session. Or it's a fucking Castle Vane a game. 889 00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:01.559 It's a great two D one. I could play that game for five 890 00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:06.480 hours and have a blast. Uh. Are you're saying that's your pick. 891 00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:14.000 I think I'm leaning towards it. Yeah, I'll back that. I think 892 00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:15.519 that's my pick of those three games. Say it again, I was not 893 00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:19.880 paying attention. I was leaning towards Casaveni Ario Sorrow. I have a very 894 00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:23.079 strong feelings about Tactics Advance. But my own logic of like, you know, 895 00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:25.559 it's the same as the firing limp thing, where it's like, well 896 00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:30.199 they're longer, so it's like I can't get a full tactics round in in 897 00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:32.840 five minutes, So I think that pushes me more towards Ario of Sorrow. 898 00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:37.719 Using AI. Yeah, I use Google's AI and I asked it, Hey, 899 00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:39.159 Google, what is the best portable game of all time? And it 900 00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:46.320 said Final Fantasy Tactics. Advance have been listening to number one up there right 901 00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:51.039 now currently. Maybe it's like pulling from that, or maybe it's just trying 902 00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.719 to tell us something, or maybe we say fuck AI because I also want 903 00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:57.199 to say Cassavani Ario Sorrow. If that's what you've been saying this whole time, 904 00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:04.639 should I should all let me GPT? They don't matter In some ways, 905 00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:07.000 they matter more than all of us because it's just what we're thinking, 906 00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:14.119 all right, old game of all time? God fucking damn it. I 907 00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:15.960 just saw someone saying link between Worlds. Yeah, that was what I was 908 00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:19.920 gonna bring that one up too, but I didn't want to because you was 909 00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:22.760 shot on links Awakening. I didn't want to get enough fight about It is 910 00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:25.480 the only ten I ever gave it game, and four Between is a perfect 911 00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:32.039 video game. GPT has a number of submissions. Uh. It's submissions are 912 00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:37.519 links Awakening, Pokemon Red or Blue, Starting a Valley, or Hollow Night 913 00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:42.880 thirty is I don't considered that a portable game. Hollow night. It's not 914 00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:45.880 good. So do you want to throw all this out and just go with 915 00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:51.559 Link between Worlds? I'm ready to fucking like the Wise, Let's do it. 916 00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:53.719 No no, no, no no no. At that Game of the 917 00:56:53.840 --> 00:57:00.559 Year, tam, I wasn't I that matter? Wait what you're saying a 918 00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:05.119 link between worlds? Yeah, and I'm not saying that the way that with 919 00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:07.559 the attitude you just said it with. I'm saying a link between worlds. 920 00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:12.320 Yeah, I'm trying to see it. And then Aria of Sorrow better than 921 00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:15.760 any video game. It's so good. Come on, man, it's it's 922 00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:22.840 a good game. But like fundamentally it's is a spin on link to the 923 00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:27.599 past, but it plays so much better than anything. Okay, okay, 924 00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:31.800 single single play through Link between World's done? Great? Was it like fifteen 925 00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:36.280 hours? Something like that? Sorrow is the game you keep coming back. 926 00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:39.920 I find new ship. I played Link between Worlds four times in a row, 927 00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:44.960 once to beat it for review, once to get every heart piece, 928 00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:47.119 once in that master mode, and another time. This is all like back 929 00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:50.519 to back to back to back, which I've never done. Another time just 930 00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.559 because I hadn't got enough for yet Sorrow. I fucking love but I just 931 00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:58.760 played through it that one time. Chat in a poll and now Link between 932 00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:00.599 Worlds was the only option in that poll, but it did win. You 933 00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:05.039 know, Chat is smart, Chatto, Chat's important, you know, I 934 00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:07.400 think we got to go with Chat the people. You know, this is 935 00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:13.400 unbelievable. You've added a new game into this and like it completely invalidates the 936 00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:21.440 cutting portion because like, now we go put everything back in and like rules 937 00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:30.480 this as well, it requires a requires we did everything rather although hang on, 938 00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:34.079 I will throw this out there. Me and Greb obviously feel very strongly 939 00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:37.320 about Link between Worlds, but this is a three person thing. We are 940 00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:43.039 deciding who and like we all feel good about Aria Sorrow exactly. I don't 941 00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:45.599 want to just throw like I don't want to just majority rules on me and 942 00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:50.119 Grub two to one. We almost like Sorrow would be like a very strong 943 00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:53.599 number two for me right now. So uh yeah, yeah, my personal 944 00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:57.239 is like if it was a person one, it would be like Link between 945 00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:00.559 Worlds and Across and Warrior and everything, but it's not. I would say 946 00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:05.519 the official Giant Bomb Pick game of all time. Yeah, there was the 947 00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:09.280 Giant Bomb emblem on Castlevania Aria sorrows like box art and saying the best portable 948 00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:12.960 game of all time. I think that looks right to me. I think 949 00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:16.639 that's correct. Yeah, I think that objectively correct. All right, congratulations 950 00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:24.280 to Konami all these years later a time. Sorry, I'm sorrow. Five 951 00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:29.440 other games that are like almost that good that game? Yeah, so yeah, 952 00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:31.480 those games, everybody, I'm a big fan of this. All right. 953 00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:35.559 Cool. Hey, hey, thanks for hanging out with Giant Bomb all 954 00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:37.199 week. This week, everybody, we're off tomorrow. If you're listening to 955 00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:40.000 this live, or if you're listening this on Friday and you're wonder why there's 956 00:59:40.039 --> 00:59:43.960 nothing Giant Bomb, We're all for Veterans Day. We will be back next 957 00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:46.760 week. Be sure listening to BombCast. Be sure to check on Games Mornings, 958 00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:51.039 Jeff Jeff's biz Our Adventure, A whole bunch of great shows that you 959 00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:53.159 should be checking out. Extra Life, Extra Life, Yes, thank you 960 00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:57.199 Weekend extra Life. We had a lot we had the community do Extra Life 961 00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:01.079 last weekend. This weekend, at a nine am Eastern time, I will 962 01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:05.199 begin playing some DDR and then I'll probably play some other stuff maybe Allen. 963 01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:07.199 Wait, two or something. I'll catch up on some more of that, 964 01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:10.159 and then at three pm, the West Coast crew is gonna be taking over 965 01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:13.599 tam You guys are you're you're part of that, right? Yeah? I'm 966 01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:16.320 trying to convince Johnny to doing a secular race with me. Oh okay, 967 01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:20.119 that would be fun. I haven't played secular in a real long time, 968 01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:23.039 but it might be trickle. So what might do is Saturday play on this 969 01:00:23.320 --> 01:00:25.920 game to play on the stream, and I'll play on a Steam deck, 970 01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:29.800 and then once the time is up, we reveal how fall we've got. 971 01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:34.320 Oh I like that. That's fine. I like that all right, And 972 01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:37.119 so yeah that they will be going three pm and on Saturday. If I 973 01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:40.400 said tomorrow Saturday, and then the weekend after that the fall. So the 974 01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:45.360 weekend after this one Minneapolis, Minnesota. The crew is coming together at Dan 975 01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:51.400 Reicherts for an in person middle of the country extra life. Dan, you 976 01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:53.800 get things set up, it is set. I have been spending the last 977 01:00:53.960 --> 01:00:57.480 few weeks getting everything set up, and I think I am in a good 978 01:00:57.480 --> 01:01:00.400 spot. I have a lot of fucking games. I have a lot of 979 01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:04.000 systems that have four controllers. So this is going to be a real local 980 01:01:04.239 --> 01:01:07.519 multiplayer. There's some party games involved in it, and not just the obvious, 981 01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:12.199 you know, Mario parties and stuff. I have plumbed the depths and 982 01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:16.559 we got Dreamcast sixty four original Xbox We all with four controllers, good to 983 01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:20.920 go. Maybe we'll make Robo Misplace, Deal Battalion or something. Who's going 984 01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:25.480 to be there, Grub, Mike Manatti, the wind Bag and some guests 985 01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:29.960 from the area, some somebodies I got. Okay, So it's an extra 986 01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:32.639 midlife crisis as well as yes, oh oh yes, yes, yes, 987 01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:37.000 I can't wait to meet Jesse Vantera finally all right fun. Oh Jesse, 988 01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:42.079 you're watching, Please come by. Look I've got weed. I'll give you 989 01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:46.960 weed, Jesse. Jesse. We all fans of the movie of Brexas please 990 01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:51.599 card you don't live that far for me, Jesse. If anyone knows Jessevntera, 991 01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:54.639 invite him to Extra life for me. Thank you for watching, Thank 992 01:01:54.679 --> 01:01:58.800 you for listening. That was the BombCast Revenge. It's Dan tam think for 993 01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:00.519 thanks for ringing out Jeff back Lark. Thank you for your work as well. 994 01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:04.000 Until next time, everybody, take care of yourself, have a good 995 01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:30.679 one and goodbye. That was a very