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It's not Tuesday. Welcome to BombCast
Revengeance eight fourteen for Thursday, November ninth,

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twenty twenty three. I'm your bad
host, Jeff Grubb. We're gonna

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we're gonna get through this together.
Everybody. Jan o'hoa is out, but

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we're still gonna do BombCast Revengeans because
we got a lot to talk about of

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a simpled crew of experts here.
Whether they're experts in fridges or handheld computers,

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it's for you to decide, that, concludes mister Dan Reiker, Dan,

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how are you doing? I'm doing
great playing all the newest, hottest,

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greatest games on my Steam deck.
O. Let here look at that,

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to look at the look at the
colors on that I got bright of

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this. Oh that's vibrant. That's
what I would say? Is that?

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Which one was that exactly? Which
game is that? Specific? Okay?

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Yeah, next block right now?
Oh yeah that looks nice. Tomorro,

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who's saying? Is here? Tom? How are you doing? I'm doing

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great? My Steam deck is behind
me, I'm very very excited to talk

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about it. And uh, the
oh, let's screen has been rocking myself

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slately. Yes, it's good stuff. And then Jeff Becklar, how's your

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steam deck go? Led Uh,
it's doing really well. I'm assuming it's

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just you know, out there somewhere, perhaps in production or maybe not even

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a figment of anyone's imagination yet,
but we'll see. I do need a

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new fridge though, because mine has
decided to start leaking into the ice maker.

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The ice maker is leaking and I'm
getting cubes that are stuck together.

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So if we have a fridge expert
in the house appreciation, the question is

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do you need do you need a
new fridge or are you doing boy in

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math and being like, well,
I have to get into this entire thing

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replace it with a brand new one. When it's like a little fix,

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if something breaks, you can't fix
it. I once moved because I wo

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a window in a house. You
have to get the whole thing replaced.

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If I was grubbing my water heater
broke, I would have moved. I

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replaced it myself, like you guys, Yes, you didn't want to explain

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that. You guys are like,
what are you gonna do with all the

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extra money. It's like, no, I did it because I don't have

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two thousands. Why that's why if
if I ever break a limb, I

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am potato immediately. Yeahs I don't
have a youth up here is because I

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didn't have money to get to They
could have fixed the tooth, but it

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was gonna cost like three hundred dollars
more, and I was like, I

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just take it out. I don't
need it, and they they told me,

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They're like, hey, you're probably
gonna want to as you get older

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have a tooth there. It's going
to fuck up your jaw and all sorts

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of stuff. You're in three hundred
bucks. I don't have that, and

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so now that's why I have to
get my whole fucking jaw fixed and stuff.

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So has the science improved on replacing
that tooth now, because I know

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for a while there there was like, no, we just actually can't put

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a tooth there anymore. I and
six to nine months when my bite is

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aligned, I can get a tooth
foot in there. But yeah, please

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please get a gold tooth. No, could it be funny chrome one?

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Yeah? Chrome one would be amazing. Yeah, it would be funny.

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Well that's not a can you get? Can you get replacement teeth that are

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also like Bluetooth enabled? I was
literally just sitting there waiting for an opportuny

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to make a bluetooth jokes. And
I don't even know if it's funny,

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Tam, but I'm glad that we're
on the same page. Like, if

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you could have like a wireless transmit
in your tooth walk around being bone conduct

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Yeah, it goes right to your
brain. What's the stupidest thing you could

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put in there, like instead of
you know, like cyanide capsules are like

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the horrible ones. That's something like
that concept, but a stupid funny thing.

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A little speaker, A little speaker
that is only a to play one

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sound. Yeah, Ryan carries Christmas
song? That yeah, very probably that

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only plays Mariah carries Christmas. No, I can play doom in my tooth?

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Yeah yeah, with my tooth.
Yeah No. Every time you like

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take a bite, is the taco
bell bong that would get buried enough water

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torture. That's just not gonna work. That sounds terrible. I think all

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the times you chew in a day
that that would be wrong. My Xbox

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made that sound every time I turned
it on, so I already heard that

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too much. Oh did you turn
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Or did you uh with that?
Either? You can. My Xbox one

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X was the Taco Bell one so
like everything, turn it on, dung

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dung. Sure I could get in
there and break the little speaker. I

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don't want to change it. No, no, no, no, so

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yeah steam deck. Oh lad you
guys want to just hop into it or

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be ready to go? Yeah?
All right, I want to hit the

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button then make a laugh for you
guys. I hear it's happening. Baby.

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I think the most important thing to
start with here is something I've had

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to think of eight million times in
the last two weeks. Is bezel or

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bezel Bezel. Yes, you guys
both said bezel if you like, you

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interchanged a little bit. By the
time you did the short, though,

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you said bezel. And I'm really
glad you had said on that turbo.

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Shawn would have fucking died when he
was editing there. He would have lost

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his mind, that you guys.
So I remember looking it up before I

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shot the TikTok thing. But when
we were in Seattle, I was just

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talking what the seans and Chow already
all caps bezelzel. You would have killed

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Bezel? Yeah, Bezel? Okay, okay, uh but yeah, that

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Bezel is smaller this time, so
you see more of the screen. It's

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uh we talked in the video a
little bit about uh oh, I wonder

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if it's gonna be a smaller form
factor and stuff like that. It's not,

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but the size of components has changed
in a way where it's like,

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Okay, the screen is actually bigger, and one of the batteries actually because

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because of the OLED technology it wasn't
taking up as much space with the oily

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was skinnier. The screen skinner because
it doesn't need back lights because it has

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its own light emitting diodes. That's
what they are, and so yeah,

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they could fit more battery in there
and it makes a huge difference. Yeah,

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So, like looking at it,
outside of like you know, the

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red power button, there's not a
lot of things just looking at it turned

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off team deck, LCD and an
O lead that you could tell right away

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like in a police lineup. But
uh yeah inside inside there are things that

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are shifted around in different sizes.
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and you had seen it by the
time I got it, and you

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were saying, oh led screen,
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of other cool stuff there. But
let's let's start with the screen though,

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and then we'll get in all those
little things. It really is impressive.

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I think that the screen that they
have here is it's the best OLED screen

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I've seen in a handheld gaming device
for sure, better than the switch,

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which is a good, really good
screen. Not to like put down the

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switch, but it's better than what
the switch has. That switch, Yeah,

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get in your place and then think
it's better than like my phone's HDR

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o LED screen and those things.
That's a thousand dollars and these things are

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getting up there in price, but
that's I got. It's pretty impressive that

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they're playing in that field. A
big part of that is they seem to

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be obsessive about the color accuracy and
making sure that they hit that one thousand

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knits of HDR brightness, which is
what you need to get to have really

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good HDR. And you got it. And it's impressive, and it's we

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go like that battery because the battery
I feel so much better. I don't

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mind using it on full HDR brightness. It's really impressive, I trust me.

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When I was at valb and like
the display experts were going into the

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nitty gritty and showing me like spectrograms
and stuff and saying knits and stuff a

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lot. It's a lot of me
going into the like oh oh yeah,

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yeah. It's like yeah, yeah, I know these words that you're saying.

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Yeah, I can tell with my
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exactly. Real world testing is the
thing I've just been doing. I'm not

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sitting there trying to do anything scientific. I'm just like I've used the steam

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Deck a lot, I've used the
roger Ally a lot. Now I'm using

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this a lot, and this one
it just feels really good. It looks

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really good, and a lot of
those anxiousness I would have about the battery,

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you know, running out too fast, most of that stuff's gone.

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And then yeah, I was okay
with the original steam Deck screen. I

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thought it looked pretty good. I
know a lot of people don't theyres a

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lot of people like, hey,
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and I'm going to try to mess
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Valve released and update so that people
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whatever, But seeing the difference,
it's like, wow, it really is

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night and day. This is a
much better screen. Yeah, I feel

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like I mean, they talk about
how impressive it is. They make a

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big deal of it being the first
like HDR enabled, like little screen or

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led screen that you can take out
about and it's when you start playing games

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I have HI enabled and seeing it
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okay, this is actually a pretty
big deal. And in most cases they

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say that they doesn't need to be
extra work done to games to make them

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function with HIO on the Steam deck. I feel like that is true for

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the most part of what I played, but there were some games that I

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think require a little bit of finessing, a bit more just like a little

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bit of performance noticeable hitches heir in
there, but nothing close to even like

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ruining the experience. It feels like
a very impressive but seamless upgrade that is

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enabling more features in a way that
you would expect would require way more like

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fiddling from from the user, but
it's more seamless. Yeah, seamless.

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I took the micro st out of
my LCD steam back and put it in

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and it just worked everything right away, no weirdness at all. So now

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I have terabout two terabytes of storage
in this thing now, because then they

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able one terabyte model. That's what
they sent me, and I think that's

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what they sent you guys as well. Ready the right, the one terabyte

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model, and so I put in
one terabyte SD card and it's great,

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And of course the SD card is
actually still pretty fast to load stuff,

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but you know, one terabyte SSD
built in very fast. Also, Yeah,

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we should probably, I mean it's
obvious, and I like it makes

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a lot of sense, but we
should probably just clarify that we were sent

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these Steam decks by Valve ahead of
time, correct, so you know,

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do without what you will. Our
impressures are based on them providing us the

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the hardware, which we appreciate both. Yep, honestly one of my favorites.

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Like there's a lot of like little
tiny things that add up to this

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being a bigger upgrade than something like
the switch to lead one that I think

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will make a serious difference for me
as I travel, because like this is

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a it's a great plane platform for
sure, but like this case, it's

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this outer case is the same size
as comes with the device. If this

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comes with the device, Uh,
this this new case comes with the one

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terabyte versus yes, yes, not
the lower ones, but the outer case

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is still super bulky and everything,
but for the audio listeners, I'm there's

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a belcrow thing here that actually I
don't think you have to even on zipp

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it you just yeah, yeah.
So there's like an inner sleeve that you

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can take out that is significantly skinnier. So if you're just like trying to

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pack light or just do like a
one bag situation or something, it makes

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it a ton easier. So that's
that's one of the upgrades. I really

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like a lot. I'm sat in
chat to EVO Shawn saying, what is

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this screen people keep talking about?
I can't find it anywhere and you can't

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hot swap, steam deck, LCD
and old led pots. So I interviewed

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spoke to Lawrence Young, one of
the key people behind this, the other

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day and asked him, like,
what is the deal with this screen?

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And apparently it's one of the reasons
that they couldn't have it in the original

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model, is like they had to
work with manufacturers to get this screen made.

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I asked. I asked him like, who did you work with?

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And he was like, we're not
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And he also indicated like there's a
bunch of manufacturers that they work with.

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You can once you have an old
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see what where your panel came from. But it's not something that he said

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at the time. When they first
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version, they wanted to do this, everyone that they worked with was basically

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like, what we've got these tablet
panels, you can put that in there,

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and that was not what they wanted. They needed something more bespoke.

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So the process of, according to
Lawrence, like getting this first steam Deck,

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like proving it to be a success, and then that helped them leverage

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that kind of experience and the market
share to go back and be like,

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we need this specific screen. So
it's not something that you will be able

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to easily find, I imagine.
But Valve also has kind of a good

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history of just making parts available for
repairs, and they're getting better at that

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all the time too. Yeah,
a screen seems like an expensive proposition and

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a tricky one from like manufacturing to
getting it available in a consumed to consumers

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in an easy way. But it's
not beyond the realm of possibility for them

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to be like, hey, if
you want to replace your screen, here

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it is, but I feel like
it's on paper feasible to do it with

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the LCD one because the power is
not all that different. But then you

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have to factor in, like the
battery size is an issue because the smaller

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screen means bigger battery and vice versa
could be a problem. Yes, So

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I don't know which one people were
sourcing before this was announced, that people

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were trying to put in their own
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an O LED screen or if it
was just a better LCD screen. No

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clue, but uh, I mean
the reality here now is that this is

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available, and this is probably your
best option. I know some people are

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already have their Steam decks there might
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about that maybe here at the end, where we're like, hey, is

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it worth upgrading if you already have
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as we're going through all these questions
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touch back on the HDR real quick. HDR on Windows is bad, It's

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real bad. Yeah, it's getting
it's broken. I had there was a

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hot key thing where I'm like,
oh, this is great, I'll do

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this hockey every time I'm about to
start an HDR game, turns HDR back

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on and everything, and that'll it's
still bad, but it will be less

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of a headache. And it's like
Nope, that hockey just stopped working.

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Windows. It's like, no,
that's not going to work anymore HDR.

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What are you talking about? And
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just makes it just unbelievably. And
you know, obviously we're we're a very

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specific case as well where we're doing
a lot of video work and we can't

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have HDR signals getting mixed in with
SDR signals whatever. But HDR in general

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on Windows is bad. This isn't
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Linux Day, but it's their version
of Linux Steam that they you know,

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baked in such a way to make
it just work. And so far,

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when I'm mooting up a game,
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it automatically boots into a mode where
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on inside the game. That's going
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even like fade the black real quick
it just like nope, just goes right

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into HDR. Yeah, and then
you can press the little you know,

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the three dot menu button, the
one that has all of your quick menus,

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and you can see on there on
the brightness and now just says that

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there's an HDR badge up there and
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percent, so that way, when
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really bright moments, those can actually
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wants to do more HDR gaming?
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Deck ever since the original came out, is that you know, at first,

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there's a lot more fiddling required,
what'stuff. And as time has gone

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on, there's so many more games
that are just like, okay, we're

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going to launch into that like twelve
eighty by eight hundred and you know it's

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it's just going to work. And
now this feels like like the I think

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they even described it as like this
is like the ideal first sagetive, first

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gen steam Deck. Yeah, yeah, it is not the seame deck too

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or anything like that. They're not
marketing it as such, but like there

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is enough there to where I do
think that like it might be worth an

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upgrade. I think about all those
little things like the first one Bluetooth,

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I played with my AirPods on the
plane, and you know, if I

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have to go to the bathroom or
something and I got to just put it

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in sleep mode per a second.
It's not a huge deal, but I

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would have to go into the settings
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And now the new Bluetooth driver on
this, it just connects. It's

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totally fine. I've tested that little
parks like it running cooler and quieter,

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things like that, Like it's not
just lip service, you know. I've

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spent a couple of weeks with them
now and it really is. And the

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battery life thing on the way out
there, I had I was playing Dave

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the Diver and I had to do
like a pit stop during my layover and

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like charge I just played for like
two hours day the Diver and I had

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to recharge it and then go on
the next leg. With this, with

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the battery life, I probably could
have just gone the whole way and not

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had a charge. It is a
little crazy to sit here almost two years

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after the release of the original steam
Deck and be like, well, finally

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the definitive steam Deck. Yeah,
that's the right. I think I agree

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with you, Like it's like,
then, what have we been using?

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But I think the original steam Deck
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It was better than that. But
it definitely felt like them proving to

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themselves that they could do this and
then people would care. And I think

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even they were a little surprised that
people cared enough that they're like, oh,

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had we known this thing was going
to sell like this, Had we

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known developers we're gonna get on board
the way that they have, we would

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have done this and this and that, and now this has all those extra

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things in there. Now if you
have, if you are someone who's already

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bought one and you're feeling burned,
yeah, I don't blame you. You

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gotta maybe yeah, go ahead.
I was gonna I was gonna say like,

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yeah, I can understand why you
might feel burned, but I and

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I would definitely feel have some element. But having played it, like I

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this is going to sound like I'm
talking shit, but like it doesn't at

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all diminish what the steam Deck is. Like. Sure the screen is like

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not as amazing, but in terms
of in its and power, it's the

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exact same thing. And yes,
the battery life is isn't as good,

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but the fundamental experience that you're having
with a steam Deck is the same.

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And for a lot of people,
I feel like that is the kind of

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like now that's the cheaper entry point, and I feel like that's important to

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kind of not like cast aside.
And because I know we have a hit,

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we have like a tendency to be
like new thing is better than old

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thing, thus old thing must be
thrown into sun. But like, no,

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this thing is one of those ones
where it's like it's the new one

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is good to have if you're about
to buy one for the first time.

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Amazing, But I've I would have
no issue having experienced a buff. I

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would have no issue just carrying on
with my current steam Deck because it is

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still very, very nice. And
they also promised that a lot of the

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up the software updates that they're learning
to do, because they're putting so much

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work into this, they're going to
bring as many of those to the original

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steam Deck as possible the Steam Deck
LCD as possible. Have you said something

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about, like, you know,
them testing the waters with the first one,

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And I can kind of understand that
too, because you look at their

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history with hardware. It was went
the Steam link, the Steam controller,

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things that are in the hardware Steam
issues. That's the thing, Like,

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none of that stuff took off,
and so I think when this got announced,

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it's like, all right, that
sounds great in theory, but let's

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see. And I feel like this
was the first piece of hardware from them

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where people were like, oh,
wait, that's actually like this kicks ass.

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And the reality is like the first
it's a PC, but they're treating

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like a console. And this is
something I talked to Laurren seeing about as

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well, and they're like, we
really like that it's both. We really

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like that it's open and you could
do whatever you want with it, but

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then we can make the experience as
as simple as possible. And and it

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started not not quite there, it
got there pretty quickly with updates, and

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now they're so far beyond that that
it's like, oh, they're making improvements

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to this thing that just improved the
quality of life so much that it's really

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noticeable, and it's like, oh, man, I this is almost the

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ideal consoleized experience that I want when
I'm picking up a device and it's for

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a PC, let's finish up on
the screen. It's not just HDR,

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it's not just a thousand nits,
it's not just OLED. It's also ninety

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hertz. And there's some benefits there. For one, you can run games

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at ninety frames per second, some
games that would be fine with the improved

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battery life. That's actually possible and
reasonable for some things. But also you

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can run games like I usually do
at forty five frames per second, and

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it just there's this one slider.
Now you move it down to forty five

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frames per second and it will run
the games at forty five frames per second,

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and then double the frames like they
do for the VR devices, to

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ninety hertz, so it actually smooths
it out even more. And then there's

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another option, go down to thirty
frames per second and use frame tripling to

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not get back to ninety hertz,
and it makes thirty frames per second look

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way smoother than it's ever really looked
for me. And I'm like, whoa,

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this is actually really impressive stuff.
So a lot of options to say

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battery and still get a really nice
image quality. That's awesome. Yeah,

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so we'll get some other stuff,
but so far, back Lar, do

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you have any questions that I have
some questions from people on Twitter. We

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maybe we get some questions from chat
if we need to, But anything that

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comes to mind that you want to
ask about Backlar, I think for me,

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I was curious more about Like it
sounds like I already know the answer

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to this question, but I always
found like the touch pad squares that flank

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the screen to just sort of be
like a little pointless in a lot of

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ways. And you're completely wrong about
that. But I understand why you say

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that, right, Like you know, I find myself using them by accident

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more than deliberately. Uh, maybe
you could change my opinion on their usefulness.

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Well, so they didn't prove the
haptics on there, right, Is

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that what you're going to mention,
Dan? Yeah, the actics better.

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Well, I was going to say
that, like if you're not doing a

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lot of like Linux and emulator stuff, like that's where it really comes in,

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like an ideal way to kind of
do that is like Bluetooth mouse and

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keyboard. But if I'm you know, on a plane or something and I

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just need to get into Linux and
like move a file into another fold or

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whatever, that's when you're using those
track pads and like for those like kind

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of short use, you know,
but it's like it's fine. It's not

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just a mouse though, Like you
can use the Steam So Steam is great

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because of Steam controller input, and
they basically can make these thumb thump pads

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do anything, and you could turn
them into radial menus for any game.

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You turn them into radial menus for
any emulator so that you don't have to

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like bring up a keyboard on your
virtual screen and hit this and do alt

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F four whatever to get out of
thing. You could just set that to

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a radial menu input. And it's
because it's Steam. It's like universal for

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all these games and not just that
you don't have to do it yourself.

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The community is doing these things and
you could just download the profile and apply

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it to a game, apply it
to emulators, and it just works.

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It's kind of it's magic stuff.
But the haptics are better, and yeah,

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that's noticeable as well. It's like
all a million tiny little things like

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that that are noticeable once you start
using it. I've also used those things

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for like games are point and click
adventure games for example, that are in

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early access that I haven't reached the
point yet where they optimize for Steam,

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and that's been like super helpful for
me as well. Like I don't use

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them a lot, but there have
been moments where I've been like, oh,

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I can just use mouse, great, fantastic and it does feel a

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little better now, yes, exactly. Yeah. I tried it with like

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Command and Conquer a Red Alert remastered
and like you can do the mouse,

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but with that just fine, let
me see im. Lets se if I

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get some of these questions. In
the meantime, I don't know any other

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big things about the Steam that you
doesn't want to mention some of these.

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The one thing I will mention,
like is they on paper? I believe

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the the like change in weight is
like like is it thirty grams or something

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like that. It's like they said, it's like five. I have to

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look at the press thirty longer battery
life and then it's like five. Yeah,

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it loses on paper if you get
if you can look at the exact

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number. On paper, it doesn't
look like a massive like drop in in

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like the weight, but when you
play it and hold it, I feel

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like it feels lighter, and over
time you get less of that fatigue that

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you often get with the original steam
deck. Yeah. So so I feel

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like the weight is a pretty good
good like change, an important one for

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me as someone who likes to do
long sessions. Yeah. On the video

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we did the YouTube video we did
with it, we did like the blind

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test where it's like I put on
a sleep mask and had Jan Handy.

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Both women like it was immediately noticeable. Yeah, uh yeah. The press

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kid says thirty longer battery life.
It does just say lighter. I wonder

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if it's it's like, okay,
you know what the hereo hereo reduction of

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five percent five percent, it's a
six hundred and forty grams down from six

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hundred and sixty nine grams sixteen And
that's right. Then you started by saying

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that doesn't sound like a lot.
You notice it, You notice it,

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Yeah, you feel it, especially
in those longer sessions. Like, especially

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in those longer sessions, there's like
a I feel like the weight the slight

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weight change also makes it feel more
like ergonomically better, Like I realized that

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because I was playing the rock ally, and the Rock ally is a less

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like it's more of a shop design, if you know what I mean.

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But I can felt like I play
it for way longer because it's lighter,

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and I can hold it for much
longer. And now that this is lighter,

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I feel like I'm able to play
it for much longer. I think

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it's in my hand. Yeah,
it's in the comfort zone now, even

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though like the physically it hasn't changed
too much. I always liked the shape

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of the steam deck. It really
just was there's something about the weight or

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the weight balance that made it slightly
more fatiguing than I was expecting. And

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now now I think that this is
on like yeah, the other side of

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that that comfort zone where it's now
safely in that green zone where it's like,

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okay, I can use this for
an extended period of time, and

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I am again because of the battery
life, all right, there's some questions

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here, how are the temperatures holding
it after hours of prolonged use literally one

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compared to the switch O led But
I think for me, I've noticed that

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it's much cooler, much cooler overall. Yeah, a contract, it's cooler

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overall, or if the heat is
distributed in a way where it's less noticeable,

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well it is. So they were
usually the seven nanimeter a die for

408
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,319
the original steam deck, and now
this uses a six nanimeter so, and

409
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,400
because they are keeping it on the
exact same performance profile, just physics means

410
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,200
they would be producing less heat to
get to the same performance with a small

411
00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:26,559
with a shrunk down die. So
and it's actually producing less heat improved thermal

412
00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:32,000
performance due to larger fangs. I
don't know about you guys, but like

413
00:25:32,079 --> 00:25:34,559
it doesn't the fan doesn't sound as
aggressive to me, maybe much because I

414
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:37,680
haven't I haven't like played a game
that forces it to kick into super high

415
00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:41,799
gear. But I remember when I
played the original was like, man,

416
00:25:41,839 --> 00:25:44,599
this is loud. I need to
put headphones in because it's drowning out the

417
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:45,839
audio coming out of this. But
now I'm just like, oh, this

418
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,079
is much quiet. So I had
the steam Deck that they originally sent me

419
00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:52,160
for a review, and that one
apparently had a different fan than what went

420
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,680
out to all the customers, and
so mine's always been relatively quiet. And

421
00:25:56,759 --> 00:25:59,799
yet this one is noticeably more quiet
now that. One of the best parts

422
00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:03,039
of the video Dan that you and
Jan put together was that moment where he

423
00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:07,079
had the shotgun Mike Pony pointed at
each one and you could hear the difference.

424
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,559
It was immediately noticeable how much quieter
the new the new ola was.

425
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,039
Yeah, yeah, all right,
let's see, uh would you guys?

426
00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:18,119
Okay, So, like, if
you do have a raj Ally Tam,

427
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,480
you're still gonna go back and play
that because it's more powerful or what.

428
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,839
I don't know. I feel like
I haven't had them long enough to really

429
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,880
define the thing about it is.
Steam is so good man like now It's

430
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,799
like sometimes I'll be like, I
use my roger Ally as my like in

431
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,359
bed device, where I'll keep it
by my bedside, whereas the Steam that

432
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:44,880
goes like with me. And because
like the way that cloud Save works,

433
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,359
it's so easy to move back and
forth between them, I do come back

434
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,799
to the the Roger Allies power is
is like still a bit of a advantage,

435
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,039
but I usually only use it when
I know that that power is gonna

436
00:26:56,079 --> 00:27:00,640
actually help. Same like Ball of
Gate three runs a bit better on the

437
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,519
Roger Ally. The problem with the
Roja ally is the armory crate thing is

438
00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:07,440
just annoying. I hate that it
boots. It's bad software. Yeah,

439
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,799
it's bad software. Whereas the steam
Deck has got like super nice, super

440
00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:17,200
easy to use and like esthetically pleasing
software. So if it's a game that

441
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:21,559
really won't benefit from a little bump
in power, I'll just default to the

442
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,519
steam Deck because it is lighter and
it feels like existing in that ecosystem is

443
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,680
more intuitive on the steam Deck than
it is on the Roger. Ally,

444
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,079
even though you can do it there. Crooked View chat says, have you

445
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:40,160
tried Bluetooth headphones at all? Does
it still have the bad audio delay?

446
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,880
Now, they always had apt x
apt X, which means if you would

447
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:48,240
have had a certain kind of wireless
head phones, you could get low latency

448
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,160
Bluetooth. But the chances are,
like the fact that if you were not

449
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,720
going in the setting to making sure
that everything was working right, you're probably

450
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,799
getting just that basic level of Bluetooth, which does have really bad audio delay.

451
00:27:57,799 --> 00:28:00,640
But the good news is they got
a new Bluetooth radio in here.

452
00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:06,440
Five point two that will probably help
a little bit. Three five point three,

453
00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:08,039
thank you, that will probably help
with Bluetooth audio a little bit.

454
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,559
What that's really gonna help with,
though, is if you want to dock

455
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,880
this thing to your TV and have
maybe up to eight controllers connected, it

456
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,960
might be able to support that.
It's definitely gonna better than the original Steam.

457
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,400
They said. It will support multiple
controllers and it will do it better

458
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,599
without the cross talk that the previous
Steel exactly. Oh yeah, I know

459
00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:30,559
that was a thing. I think
there's a test we're gonna need to do

460
00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:33,680
because Grub, you've got that bullshit
thing you say about how you can wake

461
00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:37,160
up your switch with a by shaking
your controller's yeah, that's true. There's

462
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,880
no way that's real. It says
here that it now supports wake via Bluetooth

463
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,640
controller. So the question is,
can you turn on your Steam deck by

464
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,200
shaking another controller? All right,
I'll get that connected and mobile, see

465
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,319
if we can make that happen of
it? Okay, yeah, yeah,

466
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:56,680
I wonder. I'm gonna assume that
is the case, because that's not like

467
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,599
an exclusive to the switch thing.
No, try and throw it against that

468
00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:07,319
closet mirror. If that it works, I feel like that's what it is,

469
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,359
right, Like, that's the wake
up gesture for that like the apid

470
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,519
doh thing, right, Like for
sure, that's how it wakes up my

471
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,079
then you connect to the switch bea
bluetooth. I would imagine that's how it

472
00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:18,519
works. Yeah, it seems just
to be its wake up signal with that

473
00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:25,000
a good set. Yes, let's
see. Uh, we all have the

474
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,640
one terribies, so that means we
all have the etched glass, little kind

475
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,119
of more reflective glass. I guess
I compared that to my ring one that's

476
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:34,799
the non reflective. I think it
looks pretty good in most situations I'm going

477
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:37,759
to be playing it in. It's
not going to be when it's daylight where

478
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,599
there's gonna be a lot of sun
kind of beating down on it. But

479
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,160
I would imagine with the one thousand
knits, this is probably actually going to

480
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,160
be a better experience outside. I
don't know, how do you guys feel

481
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,240
about that etched glass on the way. They did specifically say that they wanted

482
00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:55,400
to be more playable outside with the
brightness. I think it definitely is.

483
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,799
I've not played it outside because of
imboggos and confidentiality and don't play this outside,

484
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:07,000
yes exactly. Yeah, so yeah, so I can't say for that,

485
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:08,559
but I have played it in a
very well lit room, which is

486
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,720
the room that I'm in now,
and it's definitely not as much of an

487
00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:15,519
issue like the glare and not being
able to properly see stuff. It seems

488
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:18,240
fine. All right, two more
things. How do you feel about the

489
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,839
orange power button? I love it? Love it, I love it,

490
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:25,559
I love it. Yeah. Have
you seen the translucent one? The edition

491
00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:29,480
they're doing that last question? Dan, you got to see the translucent one

492
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,200
and you didn't get to take it
home though, right, No? No,

493
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,960
I told him I was a big
mark for the fantastic against sixty four

494
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,160
stuff, and yeah, a little
bit about that one. Yeah, yeah,

495
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,200
I'm moudeled my PS five to ye. I had the like translucent blades

496
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,599
and everything. I just love that
look. And so yeah, it's like

497
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,759
a limited one terabyte that they're putting
out. I don't know if they said

498
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:52,160
the specific amount that they're putting out, but there's more orange on that.

499
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,519
There's more like vents and things like
that where you see the orange poking through.

500
00:30:56,559 --> 00:31:00,720
But yeah, it seems sick.
Yeah, but they actually had to

501
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,920
like make it out of a different
material because they're like, oh yeah,

502
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,599
when you make something translucent. You
know, there are factors that you don't

503
00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:07,240
think about where it's like, oh
god, we're gonna have to do a

504
00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:10,160
whole different set of drop tests on
this and everything. So, uh,

505
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,559
they had to do all that just
for this limited dition. It. Originally

506
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,160
the translucent stuff they would get back
and like this looks shitty, this looks

507
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,720
bad. We got to like keep
going at this and see what materials are

508
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:22,799
actually going to work. So is
more money. It's a limited edition one,

509
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:26,480
so it's got yeah yeah, and
it's like but it's got a lot

510
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:30,880
of cool like accents on it.
The the orange power button they like behind

511
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,480
the fans, it's all orange and
stuff and they try to make that all

512
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:36,599
over the place and it's just orange. Is so back in such a big

513
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:40,240
big Yeah, it's big again,
Spice orange taking over the world. Like

514
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:45,200
originally got a transparent orange red.
Okay, let's I'm bad at colors,

515
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,200
so an orange. I think they
I think they said it was orange in

516
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,359
their in their video. Oh no, in the translucent one. When I

517
00:31:53,359 --> 00:31:57,160
looked at him, Oh there's the
translucent one. Yeah, I thought it

518
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,279
looked red, but they said it
was to mat the orange power button.

519
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:05,400
So I think they won't want it
to be orange an over video. Who

520
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,039
knows how that's always gonna play.
I mean orange, orange. Orange is

521
00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:10,079
the color of valve, isn't it. Yes, exact, yeah, and

522
00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:13,200
then that's exactly what they went for
it, yes, Freeman, but the

523
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:16,839
valve itself is red. Yeah.
Okay, whoa, everyone's mind is blowing

524
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:22,640
one of the portals orange, very
clearly clear one of the portals. Yeah.

525
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:25,839
Yeah. I've always been been on
the Orange train for years. Okay,

526
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,759
So last thing here, I've had
a spider Man Miles Morales on this

527
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,480
entire time. I've been trying to
keep the screen awake so it's as bright

528
00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:36,960
as possible. It's HDR. I
haven't set to eighty five percent brightness like

529
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,559
they say, And I mean the
battery thing, it's just not it's barely

530
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:45,240
moved. Uh So okay, you
know I started at eighty percent battery.

531
00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:49,240
It's down to sixty nine percent battery. And that's it's just been running.

532
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,319
You know, I don't have anything
special on it. I think I have

533
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:55,279
it at forty five frames per second. Yeah, it's it's it's real nice.

534
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,920
That's been the biggest thing for me. It's just feel more perfident using

535
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,279
it for longer periods of time.
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely quality

536
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:10,200
of life all around. And I
feel like I would probably no brainer if

537
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,000
I didn't own an original Steam Deck, I would be buying this one.

538
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:20,960
But you know, obviously, like
I said, more than a dozen things

539
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,200
where you're just like, man,
all these little parts add up to something

540
00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:31,079
greater that stead performance wise under the
hood, it's uh, it's it's not

541
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:35,759
going to really perform better, right. They wanted to be exactly the same

542
00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:38,240
as what they said, right,
So I think at a certain degree,

543
00:33:38,359 --> 00:33:43,200
like there is a bit of a
ceiling here, and I think that's probably,

544
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,720
like I said, for me,
the deciding factor about upgrading sort of

545
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,039
mid generation if you will. How
do you guys? How do you guys?

546
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,559
I think that's completely fair, right, Yeah, yeah, I said

547
00:33:53,599 --> 00:33:57,440
like that. They describe it as
the best version of the original Steam Deck.

548
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:00,319
Yeah, and you haven't very much, Yeah, I mean much.

549
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,880
I don't know. It depends on
who you are, because like I remember

550
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,279
when Nintendo made that switch, not
the O lead, just the model that

551
00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:09,960
I had better battery. I did
swap it out. I did buy the

552
00:34:10,039 --> 00:34:13,239
new ones. So it's like,
I don't know, if you were something

553
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,159
that always wants the newest model and
newest bells and whistles and stuff, like,

554
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:19,559
I would have bought this, you
know. I mean if I would,

555
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,079
if I would have spent my own
money on this, and I would

556
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:23,880
have sold the original steam Deck on
like a craiglist or something, I would

557
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,079
probably feel pretty good about this because
I I think I did some similar with

558
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:31,159
the with the switch where I had
a launch switch, I uh, I

559
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:35,119
think I actually gave that one away, and then I have a switch O

560
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,519
lead and I'm like, this is
just an O lead screen And the battery

561
00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:42,239
was improved, So that was that
improved there as well, because they did

562
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,639
the same thing. They shrunk the
dye. But it's like those two things

563
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,280
that was enough. I was.
I love my switch old and I used

564
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,480
it all the time in handhel mode
all the time. This having those same

565
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,639
two improvements and a kind of a
couple dozen other small things on top of

566
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:57,719
that, uh, it really makes
the case. Now. You know,

567
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,039
if you are looking at the price, Dan, are you looking at the

568
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:04,760
fact sheet? You have the private
Okay, yes, so the steam Deck

569
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,079
LCD, the previous model, the
two fifty six, isn't it go ahead?

570
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:09,199
Yeah, no, it's gonna say
the storage side, yes, but

571
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,199
you got it, go ahead.
Yeah, the two fifty six old model

572
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,599
LCD is three ninety nine now,
so that got a price cut. And

573
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:20,440
then the three models of the O
lead. So the five to twelve is

574
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,000
five hundred and forty nine dollars,
the one terabyte is six hundred and forty

575
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:28,119
nine dollars, and the limited one
is six seventy nine, also one terabyte.

576
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,480
They are they also they're going to
continue selling the LCD models or the

577
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,360
other versions until they sell out.
So like there's a five twelve, and

578
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,400
there's yeah two and fifty six,
and the five to twelve and then so

579
00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:40,599
and then also just the SD card
one, right, the one that has

580
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:45,760
the eMMC memory. They're going to
keep selling two of those until they sell

581
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,400
out, and then the two is
it the two hundred fifty six get gigabyte

582
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,000
model or the five to twelve that's
sticking around fifty six? Second round?

583
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:55,679
Okay? Okay? Cool? Yeah? Well, hey, I've been excited

584
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,960
about it. I've been using it
a ton. I'm someone who likes these

585
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,239
things a lot, but I forgot
my ally, even though I don't really

586
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,079
like using my ally because of Windows
and because of the software on there.

587
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,760
I just kind of like the faulted
to that because it was running things better.

588
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,360
And now I'm so happy to be
back on the steam deck because of

589
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:13,400
the experience, and the screen is
so good in the battery like so so

590
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,840
just it's it's just real nice.
Yeah, Okay, there's a bunch of

591
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,920
there's a bunch of like small things
as well that oh yeah, I always

592
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,320
say like there's it's I feel like
it's a on paper, it looks like

593
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,480
a bunch of like random bits and
pieces that changed it. You're like,

594
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,199
yeah, it's not that great,
but when you the experience of how it

595
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,599
comes together, you're like, Okay, I see why it's worth it.

596
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,360
Like even small things like the the
kind of texture on the thumbstick, like

597
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,519
the it's it just like grips a
bit better and it's less like the thumbsticks.

598
00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:45,800
That's right, feels like improve Yeah. My my original thumbstick was a

599
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,320
little it felt a little shop on
my fingers, if you know what.

600
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,280
Yeah, and this one feels just
a little more comfortable. So it's good.

601
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:55,679
Any aesthetic changes to underneath the thumbsticks
it's now black instead of kind of

602
00:36:55,679 --> 00:37:00,239
that white gray. And also the
the letters themselves on the face buttons are

603
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,199
more of a darker gray than more
of that white light gray before. So

604
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:07,280
some little aesthetic changes like that,
but it still looks like a Steam deck.

605
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,679
And I think they said like it's
its height is like one millimeter different

606
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,280
difference, a different than the labored
But basically what that means is it's such

607
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,159
a small difference in terms of form
factor that if you have any accessories that

608
00:37:20,199 --> 00:37:22,440
you bought for the original steam deck, it will just work. And all

609
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,400
the ones that have been manufactured in
are sitting on shelves. If this is

610
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,920
your first Steam deck, you could
just go pick from those and they will

611
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,880
all just like snap right on,
no problem. This inspired me to finally

612
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,559
buy a dock for it, and
obviously it was an old one since this

613
00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:35,880
sidn't been announced. Yea, and
it works totally fine. Yep, yep.

614
00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:37,000
I got my dock set up too, and I've been doing the same

615
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:42,079
thing. Okay, we're gonna take
a quick break when we get back to

616
00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:45,239
Inspired by this topic, Dan,
you wanted to talk about the best games

617
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,960
to play portably, right, The
best portable game of all time. Let's

618
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,800
figure it out. All right,
We're going to talk about that right after

619
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,760
this. All right, we're back
and we've got a top discussed. This

620
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,840
is what we do on a bomb
cast Revenge Gents, where we talk about

621
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,039
games we missed, embargoes we missed. But then we want to have a

622
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:07,960
conversation that might be a little bit
longer lasting because we did just get our

623
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,639
Steam decks, and by us I
mean me Tam and Dan Jeff Baslar.

624
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:15,880
Yes, we kick the non Steam
deck. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

625
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,079
the cool kids are here. Human
Trek has replaced him in Human Trek's not

626
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:22,159
gonna have much to say. Uh
Dan, what are you thinking here?

627
00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:25,519
How do we going to approach this? Let's just talk. We're all adults.

628
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:29,039
We're gonna have a conversation here.
We do this with Game of the

629
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:31,159
Year. We've determined many things in
categories. This is simple. This is

630
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,480
one category. What we wants the
best portable game of all time. And

631
00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:37,800
that's the goal to define the best
portable game of all time. Yeah,

632
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:43,000
okay, links Awakening settle, Let's
go No. One of the week of

633
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:45,199
sell the games. All right,
So here's another thing about why links Awakening

634
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,719
isn't the best ever are? To
me? The a portable game to me

635
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,679
is synonymous with like I want that
time travel aspect where it's like because I

636
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:57,559
think about it on planes all the
time, because that's generally where I've played

637
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,800
portable games. Or there was a
really arc period of my life. It

638
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:06,400
was my first semester of college where
I went into classes and sat there and

639
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,480
there were dudes standing at the front
trying to teach me things and it was

640
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:13,559
harrowing. It was just awful.
And it was the Game Boy Advance sp

641
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,159
that got me through that. So
I look at games like Final Fantasy Tactics

642
00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:21,440
Advance, which like made an hour
long class go buy in a blink or

643
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:24,440
a flight I think of Across three
D. I think of a shout out

644
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,679
to Lucy who wanted those to plash
for Vampire Survivors. Yes, games like

645
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,079
that that can take things that can
be a chore like a flight or school,

646
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,320
and you can make it go really
fast and make it there I say

647
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,719
fun. And so that's to me
when I think portable games, that's what

648
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,760
I think of. I Okay,
it's cool that you think of that.

649
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,320
I think of Links Awakening. Let's
go it's it. That's it, all

650
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,679
right, we got it. It's
a confusing, not grade zella game and

651
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,800
it's got that shitty olive the original
game Boy. Yeah my god, you

652
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,480
had to like figure out one puzzle
and you got scared by it and that

653
00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:58,599
explains it all. Now, okay, I you know what, I like

654
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,239
your definition there. Uh, you're
probably right, Like if we're talking about

655
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,880
the fact that it's portable, does
make it does make the difference there.

656
00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:10,480
I will say though, because of
the Steam Deck recently, my definition of

657
00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:14,599
like what makes time go by when
I'm playing at portable game has changed a

658
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:16,400
little bit. Uh. The one
that comes to my first is Elden Ring.

659
00:40:16,519 --> 00:40:19,320
Now I just want to throw it
out there, just maybe to get

660
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,480
out of the way. But that
was a very good portable game and it

661
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:25,280
really did just eat up time.
And I have camp battery too. It's

662
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:30,280
a battery that I think that's against
it portably by Alton Ring on the airplane.

663
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,800
What are you gonna fight? One
hundred and fifty hours on my Steam

664
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,039
Deck and like maybe like an hour
or two on my PC. Uh,

665
00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:40,719
So I was fine playing most of
it on my handheld device. Yeah,

666
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,920
I would like I don't think like
a battery life is a we're talking about

667
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,719
the best game. We're not talking
about best hardware impacted by you know,

668
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,400
a game. Every game on Steam
you're opening it up, They like,

669
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,159
that's just a game. I don't
think. I don't think every game on

670
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,639
Steam cuts it like I don't think
most games on Steam cut it next to

671
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,000
like a portable version of or a
portable game on a game by advance.

672
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:07,000
For me, like I want,
the question I have is like what makes

673
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:10,000
the best portable game? Is it
like a singular experience that you have that

674
00:41:10,159 --> 00:41:13,800
is like amazing and sticks with you, or is it the fact that this

675
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,639
game's got a longevity that means that
you can come back to it over and

676
00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:20,960
over Because Vampire Survivors is like the
forever game right like you can. I

677
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,559
wouldn't put it as my favorite.
But if I had to say, like,

678
00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:25,960
what's my one of my most memorable
portable game experiences, I'd say like

679
00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:31,440
maybe Metro Fusion or peace Walker or
something like that. So it's the criteria.

680
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:35,599
Hey, you know well, I
would think once that are benefited by

681
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,199
the portable nature, And I think
Nintendo is always on bout this, Like

682
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,000
what you're saying, I guess,
yeah, that ends right there in your

683
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:45,000
hands. Yes, I think it's
a game that you can pick up and

684
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,760
play for like five minutes or something. You could sit down and sink your

685
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,039
teeth in two for five hours,
and like, I think Nintendo really got

686
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:53,800
that right, especially during that like
DS three DS era there's lots of Animal

687
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:59,079
Crossings, or remember an early DS
where it's like Sidoku and brain Age and

688
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:00,639
all these games were like you could
pick up play for like, you know,

689
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,599
five minutes while you're waiting for a
doctor's appointment to start or something closing,

690
00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:06,559
and you're good to go play it
on a bus ride it's ten minutes

691
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:12,039
long, okay, or yeah with
that with that criteria in mind, because

692
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:14,679
you you were like, oh brain
Age, that kind of stuff. No,

693
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,400
those are not video games. Those
are stealth. I would I wouldn't

694
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,800
plush for those, but like they
were example, I'm submitting for discussion,

695
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:30,679
uh two games fire Emblem on Awakening. Yeah that's the one I would go

696
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:36,320
to. Yeah, Advance Wars,
I really like a danswer Wers. Both

697
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,840
are really good. Yes, those
are like those are like replayable games.

698
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:45,599
Yes, what about Warrior Ware?
I like Warrior where a whole bunch,

699
00:42:45,679 --> 00:42:50,559
dude. That's uh yeah, Warrior
Way is good, but like it has

700
00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:57,719
a limited Like I feel like shelf
life compared to something like, uh Fire

701
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,280
Emblem or Advance Wars to me,
but the thing is fire and I'm in

702
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,000
Advance Wars. I think I would
be hesitanting if I was on a bus

703
00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:06,079
ride that was going to be like
twenty minutes long, I'd be hesitant to

704
00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:08,679
start a fight because it's like some
of those go long and sometimes there's cut

705
00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:13,760
scenes afterwards and ship you gotta do
it in the town afterwards. Like it's

706
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,079
not like Warriorware. I know,
if I have five minutes, I can

707
00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:19,840
still get a full experience with the
Warriorware in there, you know. Or

708
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,320
with Awakening you just you know,
got the Clamp Show. Yeah, Awakening

709
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,760
was really fucking good. Yeah,
yeah, I don't make a big difference.

710
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,719
Yes, because the fact that you
could put things in these things in

711
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,239
the sleep mode, it kind of
brings a lot of these games many so

712
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,000
good to be in the middle of
the game and close that clamp Show,

713
00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:39,719
You're like, I'm just like I'm
locking up this world. Yeah myself,

714
00:43:40,519 --> 00:43:45,480
right back up. The second you
open it. Yeah, Fire and Bloom,

715
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,440
Fire and Bloom. I feel like
fire Milam Awakening is a fantastic,

716
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:52,480
fantastic one. Same with like peace
Walkers. While I love peace Walker came,

717
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:55,960
uh, I'm you guys are playing
into the Breach? Yeah, to

718
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,679
go into the Breach is a phenomenal
on. Yeah, that's a really good

719
00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:02,199
one. That realm, it's one
that boy, that that one is bite

720
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,800
sized levels. Uh, it is. You can so you can pick it

721
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,199
up and play and at the same
time, if you get it into like

722
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,039
a good run or you can get
in the zone, it can eat up

723
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:16,000
time and make it melt away.
And it's it's little and easy to understand,

724
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,559
but like has a ton of depth. So it's like it's just goes

725
00:44:20,639 --> 00:44:22,320
up and down and left and right
in terms of filling up a really good

726
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:30,360
portable experience. Hey, hey,
listen, I would like to submit Thevania

727
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:36,000
games. Yea, all three DS
ones, all three They all kick out

728
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:40,840
bangus like they are some of the
best gaming that you. Yes, they

729
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,559
are. If I had to pick
one and say, maybe Aria of Sorrow

730
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:53,199
or maybe Order Ecclesia is really good
too. Aria Sorrow is probably yeah,

731
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,440
yeah, yeah, Ari Aria is
probably the one that I would go for

732
00:44:57,559 --> 00:44:59,599
order of the case. It's pretty
good. I love Circle the Moon,

733
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:01,119
but I'm like, I'm not gonna
try to push because I know that's a

734
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:05,440
perversion of mine. So I would
go with our. Also, those games

735
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,440
are like repackaged and available on Switch
now. Yeah, they're so fucking good

736
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:16,920
collection advanced collection, which sting.
I don't know. I feel like Ario

737
00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:22,480
Sorrows Caslovania is a solid entry for
all right down. Yeah, as a

738
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:28,800
real contender, collecting all those souls
like formless I have. I have more

739
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,639
phone collecting all those souls than I've
ever had collecting any Pokemon in any Pokemon.

740
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,440
Yeah, for sure, feel like
a bone archer and take a soul

741
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,880
and then you can throw bones.
It's like, man, the collect of

742
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,559
like the little game Boy Advance effect
of this little sprite just popping out of

743
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:46,840
this guy because you hit them and
it's just like circling. Yeah, it's

744
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,679
good to be surrounded by other smart
people. This is nice. Yeah.

745
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,000
Anythings coming to life and trying to
kill you, yeah, God damn it.

746
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:59,280
I didn't even have it written down, but you're so right. Okay,

747
00:46:00,199 --> 00:46:01,440
here's the short list. I'm putting
together a little shortlist here, like

748
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,800
it's a game of the year deal. Here's what I have on here right

749
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,519
now, and tell me which ones
we can just straight up takeoff. I

750
00:46:07,639 --> 00:46:10,199
got Fire and Bloom, Awakening Into
the Breach, Ari of Sorrow, I

751
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:15,159
love the Cross, I love Warrior
Ware, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. Dare

752
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:20,360
I say Tetris, Yeah, Tetris
is good. Yeah, I think Tetris

753
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,239
is a good one. Yeah.
I mean we could put it on the

754
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,599
shortlist. Yeah, and then Vampire
Survivors. That's what I have here.

755
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,000
I feel like we should probably have
like Luminez on there or something that.

756
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:31,840
Luminis is a bang, as you
know, it is really great and definitely,

757
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:36,559
like I would say, potentially even
the best PSP game. But I

758
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:38,599
don't know if it hangs against these
other ones, you know, Okay,

759
00:46:38,639 --> 00:46:45,199
what about what about Hades? Yeah? Fuck, Hades is a good one.

760
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,039
It's really good. So again,
it's like so strong in so many

761
00:46:47,079 --> 00:46:51,800
ways. Now, It's it's not
exactly bite size, but you could,

762
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:53,920
you know, go in sleep mode
and come back and you're not gonna have

763
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,480
that hard of a time getting back
into it most of the time. No,

764
00:46:57,679 --> 00:47:01,280
but boy, just have in that
game up in your face and playing

765
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,960
it for long periods of time in
your own little world. Hades is real

766
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,079
good at that. Have you played
that on the old Steam deck? I

767
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:10,599
have not, but I downloaded because
you and Jam were telling me to do.

768
00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:15,800
It looks good. Yes, we
had a side by side with the

769
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:20,360
switch O lead version, and man
they look both of them look good.

770
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,159
But the the switch the Steam olid
one is is quite nice and just runs

771
00:47:25,159 --> 00:47:30,159
way better. Yeah. Yeah,
and the loading times are like snappyers.

772
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,320
It's just like such a good experience. Okay, we got to cut.

773
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:37,320
We got nine of them. Here
is I hate to say it, like

774
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,920
I hate to be this this kind
of person, but like the math games,

775
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,119
they're they're not They're not the ones
for me. I like the period

776
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:52,679
games Oh Cross as well. It's
like good, I understand, I understand.

777
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,719
I looked at my top under games
of all timeless I did, and

778
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,800
that is the highest ranked. Oh
no, no worry, where is my

779
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,400
number one? And then across three. It's just at a certain point.

780
00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:05,960
Here's the thing. I can play
Ario Sorrow or Fire Emblem for maybe four

781
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:09,440
or five hours continuous. After about
an hour of Picross it's homework, and

782
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:15,000
it's it's it starts to feel like
I've never been for us. Maybe I

783
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,039
feel like I feel like I want
a little more game in my game,

784
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:22,360
you know what I'm saying. My
god, I had one in mine and

785
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,480
we start talking about something else.
It's gonna bother me. But we could

786
00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:30,239
though. All right, Okay,
we got uh what what do we have

787
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,599
on there? The Okay, let's
cut Tetris. We're not We're not gonna

788
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:36,559
be basic bitches. Let's just cut
Tetris. Okay, yeah, yes,

789
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:38,800
Tetris effect better version. Yeah,
sure, yeah, you play that on

790
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,599
we can play it on switch.
But we don't need to put that back

791
00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:44,840
on the list. We were just
during this, I started downloading it on

792
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,360
my team. Yes, oh man, yeah, it's it's good on the

793
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,599
switch. Ole's it's gonna be real
good on there. I feel like,

794
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,079
surely we should have a Pokemon game
one here. I mean it's our list,

795
00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:55,880
and I mean, like, I
like Hot Gold and Soul Silver,

796
00:48:57,079 --> 00:49:00,400
I like Yellow, but I wouldn't
be like fighting for it to be the

797
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,760
best pull games all time. Well, tam, if you're positive on it,

798
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,079
and I don't give a shit about
Pokemon grub. Where do you land?

799
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,159
I mean, I I enjoy Pokemon. Fine, I don't need to

800
00:49:09,159 --> 00:49:12,079
put it on this list, but
we put on the short list. We

801
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:15,880
can put heart Gold on there and
then take it off. Yeah, just

802
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:22,199
what Jane was so extra life this
weekend. No one can see this as

803
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:24,400
the dock. But I just typed
in heart Gold and now I'm heading backspace.

804
00:49:24,639 --> 00:49:28,360
So we didn't put it on and
take it off, so it got

805
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,800
the honors. Ye. What about
called Goody Black Ops for the Nintendo DS?

806
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:37,599
Hell? Yeah, no, the
DS Modern Warfare Reflexive. No,

807
00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:40,880
that's the wee one, Yes,
the one that's completely different. We don't

808
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:47,000
have metro Fusion on the What about
zero Mission? Zero Mission? Zero Mission

809
00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:51,119
is fantastic, but there's something about
metro Fusion that I like the whole Like

810
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,239
survival horror, but you can come
back, come back around on fusion really

811
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:59,840
hard the last time. So it's
like it's like funnels. You we're supposed

812
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:00,800
to go and I just don't care
anymore. I'm like, that's fine,

813
00:50:01,079 --> 00:50:04,480
I expect that now. So when
I go in there and play, it's

814
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,519
like, oh no, it's just
a really good game. It turns out

815
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,360
when you're like more falling through like
a pipe, and then it freezes and

816
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,400
then like the the other version of
sim it's just like walks in. You're

817
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,559
like, please, God, don't
don't see me. No alien, It's

818
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:21,480
awesome, Yeah, incredible, it
is. Okay, what do we we

819
00:50:21,559 --> 00:50:23,239
have ten? Now? Or no? We took tetras up? We have

820
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:29,480
nine? Yeah, only one more
to make it ten Ghost Pebble, No,

821
00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:35,679
let's that. No compeled to put
mel gate. Let's do this.

822
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,800
Let's do this. Okay, we
got three of us on here, we

823
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,840
got nine games. Let's go through. Each of us gets to cut one.

824
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,239
No questions asked, Oh I know, can I just add this?

825
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,920
This is Grand Theft, Auto,
Chinatown Wars. It's pretty good, but

826
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,639
you know it's not gonna have so
good Okay it isname styles are fantastic.

827
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,920
Yes, okay, it's just like
really good way of shrinking down that experience

828
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,840
down to the portable level. But
fine, you're right, let's cut.

829
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,360
I'm going to read these nine and
then we will go around the horn and

830
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,840
each of us cuts one and nobody
can say shit. Okay, okay,

831
00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:10,920
all right. Across three D Warrior
Ware, the first one Final Fantasy Tactics

832
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:20,639
Advance, Vampire Survivors, Fire Emblem
Awakening into the breach Aria of Sorrow Hades,

833
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:23,679
and metrod Fusion tam cut one.
And we cannot argue with you,

834
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,960
say, say the FoST send me
a link to the dock. I'm gonna

835
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,480
put some on the screen for people. Let me just here. I've got

836
00:51:32,599 --> 00:51:39,199
terrible memories. I'm just going to
discord it to you, Grub. Those

837
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:44,920
are the games, okay, all
right, it's a Across Warrior where Final

838
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,159
Fantasy Tactics, Vampire Survivors, Fire
Emblem Awakening into the breach Aria of Sorrow

839
00:51:47,199 --> 00:51:52,440
Hades, and metro Fusion tam war
A way. I was gonna go Pick

840
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,239
Cross, but I left Pick Rock
because I know you love Pickcross. I

841
00:51:55,320 --> 00:52:01,960
just think more. Okay, well
you look it's gone. I took it

842
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:07,000
off. I'm just saying, like
like fifteen, you're probably done. Do

843
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,360
let me playing Warrior where this entire
time, like my entire life. It's

844
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,840
one of the never stocked. When
I stood on every device, I have

845
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:20,119
probably put three hundred hours onto the
first Yeah. Same, uh okay,

846
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,199
Grub, come on, Yeah,
this is tough because I want all these

847
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:28,880
games. This you know, what
I I do love it. But of

848
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,960
the ones I, if I had
to cut one, it would be Metroid

849
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,760
Fusion. Okay, I love Metroid
and yeah, but that's the one I

850
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,599
would cut. No, apparently,
apparently not enough. I'm going to cut

851
00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:43,039
Fire Emblem because it's a great game, but because of that, like it's

852
00:52:43,079 --> 00:52:45,760
not really one. I can get
a full session and in like five minutes

853
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,760
you can't stut it. Tam.
That was a great point, but I

854
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,960
still feel like you'd be cutting something
off in the middle where it's like,

855
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,920
I'm preferring a portable game that was
like, no, I had a full

856
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,199
experience with that, you know.
Okay, that's fair, that's fair.

857
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,360
All right? Then the verse six, the cross taxes the vampire survivors into

858
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,039
the breach. Are you of sorrow
and hades? All right? We're going

859
00:53:05,039 --> 00:53:07,800
back around. Is that how we're
doing this? Or should we do one

860
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,199
more round of cuts? And then
we debate the final three? Did you

861
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,400
put them up on screen? Show
I'm doing it right now? Yes,

862
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,559
I got it. There we go
actually put that behind there? Do you

863
00:53:17,639 --> 00:53:20,840
just have the six? I can't
see the program, I just have the

864
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,039
six. Yes, I'll cut them, Olky go, let's do another round

865
00:53:23,039 --> 00:53:25,719
of cuts, and then we'll debate
between the last three, and then we'll

866
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:30,719
have two runners up in one winter. I feel like this is it was

867
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:45,639
besides gone gone is it's evil science
is what what can I do? Oh?

868
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,800
God, damn it? All right, I said said, there's no

869
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:52,760
arguing, can't argue. Okay,
I'm I'm gonna do this because if I

870
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,360
do this, then it guarantees one
that I love. I mean, I

871
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,920
love this one. To be clear, I love this one. But if

872
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,679
I cut this one, the other
four that are left, I would be

873
00:54:00,679 --> 00:54:04,199
happy with any of them winning.
Ok I'm cutting. I'm cutting, and

874
00:54:04,199 --> 00:54:07,360
I'm sorry, Lucy James vs.
Okay, hate see it. I hate

875
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:12,400
to see it. That's right.
We're going to cut. Despite of being

876
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,119
a fantastic choice into the breach.
I understand. It's at this point I'm

877
00:54:16,119 --> 00:54:19,639
like, that might be my number
one choice. Looking at what we have

878
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,119
left here, it's great, but
I get it. I get all.

879
00:54:22,199 --> 00:54:25,960
These are three. These three are
amazing. Now, it's amazing. They're

880
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,719
all gonna they're all gonna medal here
audio listeners. We so we're left with

881
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:36,199
final Fantasy Tactics Advanced Cansylvania, Aria
of Sorrow, and Hades. All Right,

882
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,440
I think this is gonna be my
argument for Ari of Sorrow because it

883
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:44,159
does fit those criteria so well.
Of like, if I play it for

884
00:54:44,199 --> 00:54:49,000
a little bit and then I say
and quit, I still made progress.

885
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,800
It's not like a story thing.
It's like I could I could level up

886
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,000
a couple of times, I get
a few souls or whatever I am,

887
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,760
I find a new save room or
something that I'm done. That could be

888
00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:00,360
a five to ten minute session.
Or it's a fucking Castle Vane a game.

889
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,559
It's a great two D one.
I could play that game for five

890
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:06,480
hours and have a blast. Uh. Are you're saying that's your pick.

891
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:14,000
I think I'm leaning towards it.
Yeah, I'll back that. I think

892
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,519
that's my pick of those three games. Say it again, I was not

893
00:55:15,559 --> 00:55:19,880
paying attention. I was leaning towards
Casaveni Ario Sorrow. I have a very

894
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,079
strong feelings about Tactics Advance. But
my own logic of like, you know,

895
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,559
it's the same as the firing limp
thing, where it's like, well

896
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:30,199
they're longer, so it's like I
can't get a full tactics round in in

897
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,840
five minutes, So I think that
pushes me more towards Ario of Sorrow.

898
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,719
Using AI. Yeah, I use
Google's AI and I asked it, Hey,

899
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,159
Google, what is the best portable
game of all time? And it

900
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:46,320
said Final Fantasy Tactics. Advance have
been listening to number one up there right

901
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:51,039
now currently. Maybe it's like pulling
from that, or maybe it's just trying

902
00:55:51,039 --> 00:55:53,719
to tell us something, or maybe
we say fuck AI because I also want

903
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,199
to say Cassavani Ario Sorrow. If
that's what you've been saying this whole time,

904
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:04,639
should I should all let me GPT? They don't matter In some ways,

905
00:56:04,639 --> 00:56:07,000
they matter more than all of us
because it's just what we're thinking,

906
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:14,119
all right, old game of all
time? God fucking damn it. I

907
00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:15,960
just saw someone saying link between Worlds. Yeah, that was what I was

908
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,920
gonna bring that one up too,
but I didn't want to because you was

909
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,760
shot on links Awakening. I didn't
want to get enough fight about It is

910
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,480
the only ten I ever gave it
game, and four Between is a perfect

911
00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:32,039
video game. GPT has a number
of submissions. Uh. It's submissions are

912
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:37,519
links Awakening, Pokemon Red or Blue, Starting a Valley, or Hollow Night

913
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:42,880
thirty is I don't considered that a
portable game. Hollow night. It's not

914
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,880
good. So do you want to
throw all this out and just go with

915
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:51,559
Link between Worlds? I'm ready to
fucking like the Wise, Let's do it.

916
00:56:51,679 --> 00:56:53,719
No no, no, no no
no. At that Game of the

917
00:56:53,840 --> 00:57:00,559
Year, tam, I wasn't I
that matter? Wait what you're saying a

918
00:57:00,599 --> 00:57:05,119
link between worlds? Yeah, and
I'm not saying that the way that with

919
00:57:05,159 --> 00:57:07,559
the attitude you just said it with. I'm saying a link between worlds.

920
00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:12,320
Yeah, I'm trying to see it. And then Aria of Sorrow better than

921
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,760
any video game. It's so good. Come on, man, it's it's

922
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:22,840
a good game. But like fundamentally
it's is a spin on link to the

923
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,599
past, but it plays so much
better than anything. Okay, okay,

924
00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:31,800
single single play through Link between World's
done? Great? Was it like fifteen

925
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:36,280
hours? Something like that? Sorrow
is the game you keep coming back.

926
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,920
I find new ship. I played
Link between Worlds four times in a row,

927
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,960
once to beat it for review,
once to get every heart piece,

928
00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:47,119
once in that master mode, and
another time. This is all like back

929
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:50,519
to back to back to back,
which I've never done. Another time just

930
00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:53,559
because I hadn't got enough for yet
Sorrow. I fucking love but I just

931
00:57:53,559 --> 00:57:58,760
played through it that one time.
Chat in a poll and now Link between

932
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,599
Worlds was the only option in that
poll, but it did win. You

933
00:58:00,599 --> 00:58:05,039
know, Chat is smart, Chatto, Chat's important, you know, I

934
00:58:05,079 --> 00:58:07,400
think we got to go with Chat
the people. You know, this is

935
00:58:07,519 --> 00:58:13,400
unbelievable. You've added a new game
into this and like it completely invalidates the

936
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:21,440
cutting portion because like, now we
go put everything back in and like rules

937
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:30,480
this as well, it requires a
requires we did everything rather although hang on,

938
00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:34,079
I will throw this out there.
Me and Greb obviously feel very strongly

939
00:58:34,119 --> 00:58:37,320
about Link between Worlds, but this
is a three person thing. We are

940
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:43,039
deciding who and like we all feel
good about Aria Sorrow exactly. I don't

941
00:58:43,039 --> 00:58:45,599
want to just throw like I don't
want to just majority rules on me and

942
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:50,119
Grub two to one. We almost
like Sorrow would be like a very strong

943
00:58:50,199 --> 00:58:53,599
number two for me right now.
So uh yeah, yeah, my personal

944
00:58:53,719 --> 00:58:57,239
is like if it was a person
one, it would be like Link between

945
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,559
Worlds and Across and Warrior and everything, but it's not. I would say

946
00:59:00,599 --> 00:59:05,519
the official Giant Bomb Pick game of
all time. Yeah, there was the

947
00:59:05,559 --> 00:59:09,280
Giant Bomb emblem on Castlevania Aria sorrows
like box art and saying the best portable

948
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,960
game of all time. I think
that looks right to me. I think

949
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,639
that's correct. Yeah, I think
that objectively correct. All right, congratulations

950
00:59:16,639 --> 00:59:24,280
to Konami all these years later a
time. Sorry, I'm sorrow. Five

951
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:29,440
other games that are like almost that
good that game? Yeah, so yeah,

952
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,480
those games, everybody, I'm a
big fan of this. All right.

953
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,559
Cool. Hey, hey, thanks
for hanging out with Giant Bomb all

954
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:37,199
week. This week, everybody,
we're off tomorrow. If you're listening to

955
00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:40,000
this live, or if you're listening
this on Friday and you're wonder why there's

956
00:59:40,039 --> 00:59:43,960
nothing Giant Bomb, We're all for
Veterans Day. We will be back next

957
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,760
week. Be sure listening to BombCast. Be sure to check on Games Mornings,

958
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,039
Jeff Jeff's biz Our Adventure, A
whole bunch of great shows that you

959
00:59:51,039 --> 00:59:53,159
should be checking out. Extra Life, Extra Life, Yes, thank you

960
00:59:53,159 --> 00:59:57,199
Weekend extra Life. We had a
lot we had the community do Extra Life

961
00:59:57,239 --> 01:00:01,079
last weekend. This weekend, at
a nine am Eastern time, I will

962
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:05,199
begin playing some DDR and then I'll
probably play some other stuff maybe Allen.

963
01:00:05,199 --> 01:00:07,199
Wait, two or something. I'll
catch up on some more of that,

964
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,159
and then at three pm, the
West Coast crew is gonna be taking over

965
01:00:10,239 --> 01:00:13,599
tam You guys are you're you're part
of that, right? Yeah? I'm

966
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:16,320
trying to convince Johnny to doing a
secular race with me. Oh okay,

967
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,119
that would be fun. I haven't
played secular in a real long time,

968
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,039
but it might be trickle. So
what might do is Saturday play on this

969
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,920
game to play on the stream,
and I'll play on a Steam deck,

970
01:00:27,159 --> 01:00:29,800
and then once the time is up, we reveal how fall we've got.

971
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:34,320
Oh I like that. That's fine. I like that all right, And

972
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,119
so yeah that they will be going
three pm and on Saturday. If I

973
01:00:37,159 --> 01:00:40,400
said tomorrow Saturday, and then the
weekend after that the fall. So the

974
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:45,360
weekend after this one Minneapolis, Minnesota. The crew is coming together at Dan

975
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:51,400
Reicherts for an in person middle of
the country extra life. Dan, you

976
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,800
get things set up, it is
set. I have been spending the last

977
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,480
few weeks getting everything set up,
and I think I am in a good

978
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,400
spot. I have a lot of
fucking games. I have a lot of

979
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,000
systems that have four controllers. So
this is going to be a real local

980
01:01:04,239 --> 01:01:07,519
multiplayer. There's some party games involved
in it, and not just the obvious,

981
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:12,199
you know, Mario parties and stuff. I have plumbed the depths and

982
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,559
we got Dreamcast sixty four original Xbox
We all with four controllers, good to

983
01:01:16,599 --> 01:01:20,920
go. Maybe we'll make Robo Misplace, Deal Battalion or something. Who's going

984
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,480
to be there, Grub, Mike
Manatti, the wind Bag and some guests

985
01:01:25,519 --> 01:01:29,960
from the area, some somebodies I
got. Okay, So it's an extra

986
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,639
midlife crisis as well as yes,
oh oh yes, yes, yes,

987
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,000
I can't wait to meet Jesse Vantera
finally all right fun. Oh Jesse,

988
01:01:37,199 --> 01:01:42,079
you're watching, Please come by.
Look I've got weed. I'll give you

989
01:01:42,199 --> 01:01:46,960
weed, Jesse. Jesse. We
all fans of the movie of Brexas please

990
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:51,599
card you don't live that far for
me, Jesse. If anyone knows Jessevntera,

991
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,639
invite him to Extra life for me. Thank you for watching, Thank

992
01:01:54,679 --> 01:01:58,800
you for listening. That was the
BombCast Revenge. It's Dan tam think for

993
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:00,519
thanks for ringing out Jeff back Lark. Thank you for your work as well.

994
01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:04,000
Until next time, everybody, take
care of yourself, have a good

995
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:30,679
one and goodbye. That was a
very