WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:20.719 Good morning, friends and friends, I am Julio Pérez and this is the 2 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:27.399 train of life, a radio adventure along the routes of the heart. I 3 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:32.719 want to invite you to travel with me and dream together in a better world, 4 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:38.119 a different world where men and women of good will can live in peace 5 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:45.439 and freedom. The train of life is a magaxin of good news and hope. 6 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:53.799 This is a radio time specially designed for people like you and as many 7 00:00:53.920 --> 00:01:00.159 seekers of truth, of the only truth that can truly make us. Come 8 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:07.200 free, I invite you to travel with us on the safest train of all, 9 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:17.359 which will definitely take you to safe harbour. This is the train of 10 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:55.239 life. Good question, very good morning Spain, good day, friends, 11 00:01:55.519 --> 00:02:00.120 from this corner of this Iberian site of zo Barcelona, to all the towns, 12 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:05.920 of brothers, of cities of Spain speaks Julio Pérez, this living parable. 13 00:02:07.240 --> 00:02:13.439 Thirty- two years later, untiringly, we are still on the train 14 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:17.439 of life. Sign up and travel with us and enjoy it. We also 15 00:02:17.439 --> 00:03:23.800 go there to believe or not to believe. That is the question of what 16 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:29.000 good it is to believe in God if God is nowhere. It exists only 17 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:34.479 in our imagination, in the imagination of the illusions or the weak of spirit. 18 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.319 Only those who have a fierce fear of death and even of life and 19 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:46.039 are terrified of facing the harsh human realities are the ones who want to take 20 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:52.120 refuge in this religious chimera. These are those who prefer to flee from present 21 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:57.360 reality and invent an unreal world that one day, according to them, will 22 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:02.479 become true, even if only in the imagination of naive believers who bet on 23 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:09.840 the credulity of a utopian imaginary god and, moreover, angered by the human 24 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:17.319 disaffection towards his person. It says this in some sane of the moment and 25 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:21.920 of the past. What kind of God is such a perfectionist and demanding one 26 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:28.639 who claims absolute obedience to his creatures. Why not admit once and for all 27 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:34.519 the absence of God and stay so calm. Therefore, friends, let us 28 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:42.160 eat and drink that tomorrow we will die and conclude with that popular saying that 29 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:45.920 the dead prays to the hole and the living to the buoy. If that 30 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:50.959 Christian Jewish God made us truly free to decide our personal destiny, why does 31 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:58.199 he so much care to bother us with so many claims and proclaims through his 32 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:02.240 representatives that, by the way, they are not always as exemplary as they 33 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:06.560 are supposed to be? Why not accept once and for all a world without 34 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:14.839 God, organized and administered only by this human species of ours that continues to 35 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:21.240 evolve until we reach the proto man who is overcoming his earlier stages evolutionaryly, 36 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:28.560 as it turns out some of the most advanced studies of the biological sciences, 37 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:34.519 reaching its climax in the not very distant future, going from being the homo 38 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:41.759 sapiens to the loin of ux, as this writer Israel says and so popular. 39 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:49.680 Some still wonder. Do we need that so- called God who seems 40 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:56.040 a little phantasmagorical. Where God is, if he is somewhere, how he 41 00:05:56.360 --> 00:06:01.360 is, it would be possible to know him truly, or it is much 42 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:06.839 to ask how, when and where that God can be known that someone explains 43 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:15.079 it to us for certain, how many go through life without knowing or worrying 44 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:19.480 at all about the existence of that good God who, according to some disbeliefs, 45 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:26.639 seems more absent than present from the various human circumstances and problems that are 46 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:32.319 not few and some thick and disturbing. Allow me suddenly to stop being a 47 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:39.480 stubborn atheist to become a simple believer in the God who created us right now 48 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:44.959 and who has also given us Jesus Christ, the god who became a Helloin 49 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:50.079 man, is in the environment around us, is in the echo of the 50 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:57.040 mountains, is in the immense seas, is in the heights and also in 51 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:03.040 the plains. The breath of the omnipotent is in all animated creation and even 52 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:12.839 latently, also in the inanimate. He is indelibly in our entire molecular structure 53 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:16.680 and, of course, in our human essence. Also, becoming a replica 54 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:24.040 of his divine, likeness without any doubt, we are like Adam and evacuate 55 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:30.639 God' s masterpiece. Absolutely Geloin has planted, or implanted rather in the 56 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:35.759 vital center of our souls. The awareness that alerts us to the dangers and 57 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:41.040 benefits of life is like the tree of science, good and evil in lost 58 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:45.680 paradise and has also planted in the nuclear center of human history, that other 59 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:49.199 tree of life that is the Cross of Christ, which can give salvation and 60 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:59.680 hope to a lost world. In his own mistakes, God has taken his 61 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:03.680 greatest you are human expression in Jesus. He' s unique. His words 62 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:09.920 completely transform us His unconditional love and his dramatic death on the Cross reconcile us 63 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:18.480 with God and also with ourselves. What a great power. Jesus, the 64 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:24.519 resurrected one who defeated the empire of death, is the way to the father, 65 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:31.200 the supreme truth, and eternal life personified. He and he alone is 66 00:08:31.200 --> 00:08:37.320 the light that illuminates our existence. So, friends, today my last advice 67 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:43.919 to you is to seek God while he may be found. Therefore, if 68 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:48.679 you hear his voice today in your consciousness through a human voice like mine, 69 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:54.919 do not be indifferent to his call, for today may be your great day, 70 00:08:54.240 --> 00:09:22.279 your day of salvation on the train of life, life, ladies and 71 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:46.120 gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, to all the pilgrims of the radio waves, 72 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:56.519 well, because welcome to this journeying train unstoppably I say because the train does 73 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:58.279 not tire, it can break down in the worst case, but it is 74 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:07.360 a machine no, and our life is like a motor machine. Think that 75 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:15.399 the configuration, molecular and biochemical structure of the human being is perfect in its 76 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:22.399 pure essence. The harmony that there is not only in all of our biochemical 77 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:26.679 engineering of our being but also, if we see the external, oxygen, 78 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:31.480 nitrogen, everything, the habitat, this is not a coincidence, this is 79 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:39.159 not. This is a mind intelligent design, it is a higher mind. 80 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:45.399 It' s hard to come to believe that because some say clearly the scarecrow 81 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:50.080 of the or scarecrow, but it' s also right, that' s 82 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:54.240 to say religion. He has told us that God is some sort of ghostly 83 00:10:54.320 --> 00:11:00.200 thing that is in the dark. God is a kind of being angered into 84 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:03.840 doing the wills, like the Greek gods, these of Greek mythology, who 85 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:09.960 were always enraged with one another. It doesn' t come that far. 86 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:16.679 No, but the Christian Jewish god more the Jew than the Christian. He 87 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:24.519 is an unknown God in his pure essence. He always speaks from far away. 88 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:31.120 That' s what they say. Some do not, but it is 89 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:35.480 the mystery of the God who created us. He is the one who determines 90 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:41.159 the guidelines of all the rules of human behavior. He has given us the 91 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:45.840 essence of the Book of Will. I was reading an article this week on 92 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:50.120 the subject of predestination and the Book of Will. The author was not very 93 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:56.639 convincing to me either, because in the end I think there was an interpretation 94 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:03.360 mess with this argument. The God. God knows the end from the beginning, 95 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:07.440 of course, he knows who is who and who will be in the 96 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:13.879 Eternal Kingdom and who is not, because they will say otherwise. But God 97 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:20.000 wants all men to proceed to repentance before it is too late. God' 98 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:24.679 s good will is that it is unconditional love. Only clear when we come 99 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:31.519 to him sincerely repentant. The condition is sincere repentance of our personal sins that 100 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:35.080 we all have to a greater or lesser extent, and this has separated us 101 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:41.279 from God. God is a humanly inaccessible holy being. But through Christ we 102 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:48.600 can draw close to God. He has made a pontiff, bridge means he 103 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:52.799 is not the Pope of Rome. Pontiff, it is Christ, the pontiff, 104 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:56.799 the vicar, He is not Vicar, He is the substitute, He 105 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:58.600 is not the Pope, That is the vicar of Christ on earth. At 106 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:03.519 present, the Holy Spirit was called, but the vicar of Christ of God 107 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:09.159 on earth was Christ who replaced us, those who have believed in him, 108 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:13.159 and believe in him sincerely and believe is to connect ourselves to the living web 109 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:18.120 of God and to be in his eternal project. God wants us back, 110 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:24.799 does nothing difficult, but we have to repent sincerely of our sins, of 111 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:28.720 our indifference, of our pride, of our evils, which each has his 112 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:35.600 own. Uh, and from there a new story begins with us. Here 113 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:39.080 ' s the thing. Not in such a way that God is mastered, 114 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:43.879 the God of God is the only true God. God so loved the world 115 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:46.799 that he gave Jesus his only son, that whoever believes in him should not 116 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:54.320 perish, but have everlasting life. For God did not send his son into 117 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:58.559 the world to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved by 118 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:03.879 him. In him was life and life was the light of men. Jesus 119 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:11.000 is the light the greatest light. Well, ladies and gentlemen, in this 120 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:16.679 start of the week, in this new Magaxing, we have Dr Pedro Tarquis. 121 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:22.919 Dr Pedro Tarquis is a doctor, now retired many years ago, a 122 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:30.600 doctor at the clinic of the Hospital Clílico de Madrid and very experienced in medicine, 123 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:35.120 but he is also a journalist. He is a man who has been 124 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:43.320 the creator and founder of Protestant Digital and all the holding of publications Evangelical Focus 125 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:52.840 Protestant Aeropod also Evangelical Digital in Latin America. He is the Director General today 126 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:56.159 and well, he was the driving force and he is a man to talk 127 00:14:56.200 --> 00:15:01.399 to is a pleasure, because we talk about current affairs and he knows very 128 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:07.840 well what he is talking about is an observer of today like us and we 129 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:11.559 want to talk to him about what is going on, which is not a 130 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:18.039 small thing that we have a problem there with him, our President, about 131 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:26.159 the international situation. Then today, it was confirmed precisely in the Congress of 132 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:28.960 Deputies, because in the Senate because it has not had, it has not 133 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:37.679 prospered, let us say in some way the refusal of the People' s 134 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:43.799 Party over that of Amnesty. All this sainete we' ve had on the 135 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:50.639 subject of Amnesty, and anyway, you know, there' s been a 136 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:52.440 lot of talk about that. Let' s talk to him about a little 137 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:54.200 bit of this, but let' s talk for him a little bit. 138 00:15:54.759 --> 00:16:04.679 The Spanish government is getting into a zulo, in a maze that is going 139 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:08.919 to come out badly. The President won' t be long, not because 140 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:11.799 of his wife' s issue that that will already be seen to see what 141 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:15.759 the judges say and that comes out of it if it' s left at 142 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:18.799 all, or there' s some truth. There seems to be signs, 143 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:23.279 and for the moment there are signs of traffic, of influence, clearly, 144 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:29.720 but of course, these things are not appropriate. After the performance made us 145 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:36.159 by the President of the victim of those days of grief, benefactor. And 146 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:41.840 then we have a lot of spotlights. We have no relationship with Ukraine. 147 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:51.840 President Celesquia has recently been to Spain. Spain' s firm commitment to Ukraine 148 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:56.840 until the end of this conflict, which we will see, still seems to 149 00:16:56.919 --> 00:17:00.399 be going for a long time. And then the subject of Israel, the 150 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:08.960 clumsiness of breaking almost relations with Israel. It is true that we do not 151 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:15.839 agree. I do not agree with Israel that it is making persistent and, 152 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:22.039 in many cases, indiscriminate attacks against all civilians in the Gaza Strip. Of 153 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:26.720 course, never are the absolute terrorists of never using the entire population, they 154 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:30.920 have it frightened. No one can say anything, because if they don' 155 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:33.960 t just kill them and they' re using them as human shields. But 156 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:41.119 with them or not, it does not justify mercilessly attacking the entire population. 157 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:47.599 That we disagree, I personally with Israel in that respect, but not in 158 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:52.720 everything else, because the one who started this whole mess was never but the 159 00:17:52.079 --> 00:18:00.720 savages and made the terrorists declared. But what to say how to solve this 160 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:04.079 in international politics. Well, we' ll be able to see where the 161 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:07.680 sun rises, whether by an antequera or by knowing. And well, there 162 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:14.359 are still domestic issues, and we' ll talk to Don Pedro de Archis 163 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:21.920 about it. Then we will have here among us a good friend of this 164 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:26.440 house, a personal friend, besides, a great friend, a person that 165 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:30.759 I have a lot of affection and is the Luis Argente. This man has 166 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:33.839 been a business director of a company for many years. He is retired, 167 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:41.640 a retired, jubilant and good, but he still continues to volunteer tasks, 168 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:47.119 including in the new evangelical hospital also in our community. He' s a 169 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:55.319 very proactive man developing a diaconia. And this man met Mr Radio. It 170 00:18:56.559 --> 00:19:03.400 was a vehicle that he was hearing and that approached us and the radial half. 171 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:07.920 But then in the campaign of the two thousand fifteen with Franklin Grahan in 172 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:12.480 Barcelona, that he made the decision to follow Christ giving his life to Jesus 173 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:18.680 and shortly afterwards, his wife, Maribel also met the lord and they are 174 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:25.319 a wonderful magnificent couple that we love very much to be here talking about the 175 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:29.160 personal transformation, change of life, how he understands life, how he lives 176 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:36.680 it, how he perceives it, from then until then until now in everything 177 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:41.039 that is ahead of him, for here will be in the Luis Argente study, 178 00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:52.279 the testimony of a man changed and transformed by the power of the Gospel, 179 00:19:52.200 --> 00:20:03.000 And we have wanted to capture the theme of this magnificent interview that my 180 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:08.880 companions and friends of Radio Television Vida have done to Rosa Burguera and Miguel Lara, 181 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:15.079 to the components the salt leaders one hundred fifty, and they the truth 182 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:22.119 is that, well, they are so always in our hearts for what they 183 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:30.680 suffered with the loss of little more than two years ago of their daughter Yakachiva 184 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:37.880 for three of their ana, in a regrettable and dramatic way, the young 185 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:45.559 girl and then also the little Joan, who stumbled such and drowned in a 186 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:55.680 swimming pool in an unimaginable way. But well this is what children do that 187 00:20:55.759 --> 00:21:00.759 they are able to do what you can' t even imagine the suffering that 188 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:06.240 has been for them. Knowing Psalm one hundred and fifty, Well we have 189 00:21:06.319 --> 00:21:11.319 taken this interview that speaks of their musical work, but it speaks of their 190 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:15.880 lives and this situation of them so dramatic, how they face it, how 191 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:19.799 they live it. Very nice interview we will reproduce and with the permission of 192 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:27.400 our friends who collaborate with each other, one and the other watch the evangelical 193 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:38.480 broadcasts Dinami Radio, Honda Paz, Radio Solidaria, also Radio Encuentro, Radio 194 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:48.599 Televisión Vida. Fundamentally these most remarkable stations, because we exchange programs, we 195 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:55.640 broadcast programs there, they here you listen daily here, on Monday to Friday, 196 00:21:56.279 --> 00:22:02.000 to our dear pastor Juancano, pastor of passion and director, also director 197 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:06.960 general of Dinami Radio, not to our dear Lucho Panduro, who is also 198 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:12.680 the technical director. And well, these things happen to each other on the 199 00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:18.160 radio stations. We work and interact, therefore, ladies and gentlemen, all 200 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:22.279 this before us and nothing at a moment' s notice. We' ll 201 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:51.759 get it. In the name of Jesus come with us, you can send 202 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:55.880 your message through our Facebook, through our Facebook, entering in three double month 203 00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:59.960 point the train of life, point is the train of life, point is 204 00:22:59.960 --> 00:23:03.839 Remember that in this way you collaborate with us, tell us your impressions, 205 00:23:04.519 --> 00:23:10.839 ask them and participate actively. We want to meet you, we want to 206 00:23:10.839 --> 00:23:15.960 meet you. Use our website. Three month double points the train of life, 207 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:37.359 point is and follow us, through Facebook, through defined. It hasn 208 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:41.519 ' t been easy days, that things haven' t turned out the way 209 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:45.960 you expected me to understand you. I can see that your tears are real, 210 00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:51.400 that it hurts you what has happened. And in that sense I can 211 00:23:51.480 --> 00:24:03.039 understand you, but you have to rise to be you are not only acquired 212 00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:11.960 to extend it by hand and forget about your face, which are of if 213 00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:21.119 you are worth seeing sanwhere you eat, get worth the truth, that there 214 00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:30.119 is a lot of life ahead, continue worth it, you are not here 215 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:40.480 by accident, continue worth the pear or uy uya to the front and throw 216 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:41.839 to the front that your sadness becomes joy and your best smile. Everyone can 217 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:52.680 see, you have to get up there or you' re alone here, 218 00:24:55.000 --> 00:25:03.440 this is going to extend your hand and forget about your fran home, which 219 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:10.680 sub- thessive experience to do has to be untied, still worth the pear 220 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:17.839 and there' s a lot of life ahead, still worth the vera, 221 00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:48.119 you' re not here by accident, still worth the pear gives you son 222 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:52.160 jo or God is with me comes back tre Bendin. Lord is not allowed 223 00:25:55.599 --> 00:26:03.960 to dream good and forget ask of your failure, although they are of series 224 00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:10.000 silva, be your tendes there stagnated. It' s still going on with 225 00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:17.039 the pears, there' s a lot of life ahead, still worth it, 226 00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:19.759 aren' t you here by accident? Going on is worth it and 227 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:26.319 forget about your pasts. Going on is worth the mistakes. You learn, 228 00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:33.200 it' s still worth it, you' re not here by accident, 229 00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:44.000 yeah, it' s worth it, there' s a lot of life 230 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:45.240 ahead, still worth it for your safety. Use the belt. We' 231 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:48.799 ve replaced this announcement of nine hundred and seventy- three because not wearing a 232 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.920 seatbelt looks like things of the past. Let' s look at the flaws 233 00:26:52.000 --> 00:27:00.000 and a collision fifty kilometers per hour inking, but it didn' t today. 234 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:04.720 One in four road deaths was not wearing a seat belt Put on a 235 00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:10.200 seat belt General Traffic Directorate, Ministry of the Interior, Government of Spain. 236 00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:15.359 They will see in the ultrasound signs in the effect that after birth they may 237 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:19.720 have problems of integration or difficulties in exercising professions of responsibility and even situations in 238 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.880 which their physical integrity or life is endangered. But what' s it about, 239 00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:26.039 doctor, you' re gonna have a little girl. Discrimination against women 240 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:30.359 in society results in abuse, injustice and ill- treatment. Don' t 241 00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:34.680 let him. They' re coming in. Act with Amnesty Org Amnesty International. 242 00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:40.319 My project to study in the United States and teach them how to play 243 00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:44.240 football are really Emilio and Raúl, and one of them has schizophrenia, but 244 00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:48.039 his dreams, like those of anyone, have no limits, let' s 245 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:51.720 not put them on us. Integration is always the best response for the social 246 00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:55.599 inclusion of people with mental health problems, Ministry of Health, social services and 247 00:27:55.720 --> 00:28:02.519 Equality Government of Spain. If you want to visit nut, the Www website, 248 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:40.680 the train of life, train of life. Just or, ladies and 249 00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:45.680 gentlemen, we are here in the master car of the train of life and 250 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:51.960 way to eria that this has already been naturalized for in all media do not 251 00:28:52.039 --> 00:29:00.799 believe that through Sky zoom other means we can have the closeness of our interlocutors. 252 00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:07.359 And in this case also today we have the pleasure and pleasure of having 253 00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.960 Doctor Pedro Tarquís, who is the Director General of Protestant aeropaid, a holding 254 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:18.440 of publications that he himself promoted and was not easy. The thing is already 255 00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:22.839 and we are over twenty years old, we are almost twenty- one and 256 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:30.279 it was unique in what is communication, in the Protestant media and it has 257 00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:37.440 set the tone. There have already appeared after others not so many, but 258 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:45.000 also, and it is to be appreciated because it is a window to the 259 00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:49.240 outside also where many people of public life and citizens of all backgrounds come to 260 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:55.960 digital Protestant and all their variables in Europe and in Latin America, etcetera, 261 00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:59.039 etcetera. Well, that' s where we' re going to talk about 262 00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:00.759 the other look of the day. I do not know if it will be 263 00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:06.519 the other different or the same as others, but at least it will be 264 00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:11.519 ours that we interpret with the best possible criteria and I welcome my friend, 265 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.200 Dr Pedro de Archis. Good morning, Pedro Good morning. You wanted Julio 266 00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:19.200 a pleasure to be with you. Before, if we were young, I 267 00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:21.799 ' d say you' re in the clouds and it was being clueless. 268 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.039 And now being in the cloud is being connected. That' s in the 269 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:32.559 cloud. It' s true. Yes, sir Yes, Mr Bueno Pedro, 270 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:37.039 the truth is that there is a general zafarrancho here in Spanish politics. 271 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:40.960 For example, today the Congress has definitively approved Amnesty, which definitively erases the 272 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:47.680 crimes of one October, that this constitutional insurrection, which was really very serious 273 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:53.599 and everything that took place, we believe that with the pardons we all thought 274 00:30:55.319 --> 00:31:02.559 and yet we understood that it was a sufficient response weapon to calm our spirits, 275 00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:06.640 but it has not gone a little further because of the sale of the 276 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:15.920 Government by seven votes that it wants to perpetuate itself in power. It is 277 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:22.119 nothing else, but it seems that this is the resolution for Spain. How 278 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:29.119 you interpret this Amnesty ceremony and all that is the sainete we have had so 279 00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:33.200 far you have defined it very well. It' s been sold for a 280 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:37.759 plate of lentils, which is a very serious thing. I agree with Felipe 281 00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:41.799 González the other day Well, in an interview in El Hormiguero and before in 282 00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.200 previous statements. I say this because there are people who take it that my 283 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.279 aunts, that you each socialist party, and it really is that I believe 284 00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:53.200 that the current Socialist Party has nothing to do with what was the socialist party 285 00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:59.359 before that was a dignified position, a serious opposition, an alternative and a 286 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:05.440 confrontation of ideas and programs. And right now he' s turned and amnesty 287 00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:09.720 is proof. It' s just staying in power, Felipe González didn' 288 00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:13.559 t say. Being in government is not the same as governing, and I 289 00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:19.880 believe it has now become. The current government simply wants to be in government, 290 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:25.119 but it is not governing exactly the definition of Felipe González. Being government 291 00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:32.920 does not necessarily mean governing, and it is true. But the thing is 292 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:39.920 that in clear sense now, Felipe González, compared to all these people, 293 00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:45.359 is a saint Come on, a Holy Man, a man who is the 294 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:49.799 Holy Good. Felipe González, Alfonso Guerra, Nicolás Redondo, the whole old 295 00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.519 guard. I am really saying that I believe that one of the problems that 296 00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:59.319 the current one has with Pedro Sánchez is that he has distorted the party and, 297 00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:01.720 in fact, he has done. I am very critical of Pedro Sanchez 298 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:06.519 and of the drift he has taken, but not of being against socialism. 299 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:08.960 I believe that there is a need for a socialist party, just as a 300 00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:15.039 popular party does in fact have a balance, a check on bullets, as 301 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:19.319 the Americans say, of balance of powers. But Pedro Sánchez has turned it 302 00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.519 into almost a totalitarianism that, in order to govern, is capable of anything, 303 00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:28.119 even contradicting it, because actually he, a few months ago was also 304 00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:35.079 against Amnesty. I was seeing this morning the hemeroteca that Susana Griso No was 305 00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:42.240 handing over and categorically a little before the elections last July 23rd, the refusal 306 00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:46.960 of him and all ministers categorically to this issue of the niche, that is, 307 00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:55.799 the magnified political hypocrisy. It' s but besides, it' s 308 00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:58.559 because of the consequences that this has, we' re going to see. 309 00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:02.599 I have thought of a scenario if this had been a national agreement to say 310 00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:07.880 look in a way without the pretension of those seven votes, which is the 311 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:15.000 issue of selling Homeland. If the question of saying look comes around, let 312 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:22.320 ' s look until the last one for the theme of the Catalan conflict, 313 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:25.280 good from a sector of Catalonia, because this represents half of the Catalans, 314 00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:32.800 only the other half. We are not going to try to prepare an amnesty 315 00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:37.719 to make a nesia of all this and clean slate and a table of dialogue 316 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.480 and work and background. But it' s not this. This hasn' 317 00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:43.679 t been like that, it' s been a trap. This has happened 318 00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:46.920 in July, not only with Amnesty, but also with many of the important 319 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:54.320 laws and we will say that highly sensitive have been implemented from the Government without 320 00:34:54.360 --> 00:35:00.960 taking into account at all a minimum consensus. I do not speak, for 321 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:06.559 example, of the law of Uthanasia passed with the contrary position of the medical 322 00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:10.199 organization of the school, of the schools of doctors, of the organizations of 323 00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:13.519 palliative care, of the law of the terrible CS. As for the consequences, 324 00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:17.559 it was seen that there were failures, there were positive things, but 325 00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:22.920 it was seen that there were great failures, that benefited the offenders, the 326 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:27.639 sexual abusers, and it was not corrected and it was carried out, also 327 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:31.559 with much of the society and the parties against it, when, unilaterally, 328 00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:37.880 Pedro Sanchez decided that the Sahara was from Morocco, it is that neither consulted 329 00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:39.199 with his party, he did in the Government. That is to say, 330 00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:46.920 it is a path that I see as a nefarious one in terms of how 331 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:52.400 to govern, because it is doing what interests me and sometimes for reasons that 332 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:58.079 are not even known as the subject of the Sahara, but totally changing principles, 333 00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.880 as Groucho said more. These are my principles. But if you don 334 00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:04.440 ' t like it, I have others. In the case of But Sanchez, 335 00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.639 these are my principles. If they don' t suit me, I 336 00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:12.079 can have others too. So I already say it' s not being against 337 00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:16.679 the Socialist Party that Pedro Sanchez makes it almost like attacking him. It is 338 00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:21.639 to attack the socialist party at all that is attacking socialist parties, Pedro Sanchez, 339 00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:24.400 from my point of view, because he has become as the Sun King 340 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:29.199 the Empire. It' s me, the Kingdom. It' s me 341 00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:32.119 then, I say. We have fallen into a drift in which I really 342 00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:39.239 do not recognize Spanish democracy from its origins and the magnificent trajectory that the first 343 00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:45.480 governments had in the democratic transition with Felipe González, Alfonso Guerra Fraga, that 344 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:50.639 there was a dialogue, a confrontation also and has been deriving, deriving, 345 00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:54.280 and we have come to something that is truly unrecognizable and that, moreover, 346 00:36:54.320 --> 00:37:00.599 raises a lack of confidence in n gens governs in this case. But Sanchez 347 00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:07.000 say what program he can have when he the next day or a few months 348 00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.440 can change completely. In fact, when he ran in the elections, he 349 00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:15.199 did not include the Amnesty law in his program, not even the pardon law, 350 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.679 but was protesting against it. Then, of course, I' m 351 00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:21.719 saying it' s a contradiction. I really believe that anyone with common sense 352 00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:24.800 who is not partisan, because you can be socialist and realize this, as 353 00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:32.519 we have talked about this more relevant. But it' s a situation that 354 00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:36.880 I don' t understand how there' s no one standing up there to 355 00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:42.599 hear. This is going very badly for Spain and for socialism. Well, 356 00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:49.920 if Pajel Amban and some men have risen up and obviously have raised their voices 357 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:58.599 and or have been practically excluded, but this is what has come of it 358 00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:02.800 in a deaf way and says Sanchez. In politics as in life, forgiveness 359 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:08.079 is stronger than resentment. We are very much in favour of that, but 360 00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:12.840 it does not. That is not the case and it is clear. For 361 00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:15.599 there to be forgiveness, there must be repentance and perdition of forgiveness from the 362 00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.559 clear person who has done the harm. Sure. Besides, if they' 363 00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:22.880 re telling you, then we' ll see about it, since they won 364 00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:23.920 ' t do it again. I tell you that I know the children and 365 00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:28.440 will not do it again, because prison is very bad and many more things. 366 00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:36.360 The state would be much more aggressive the answer and then this would be 367 00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:37.840 a decalabr They won' t do it, but this idea won' t. 368 00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:42.519 Do we not repent, will we and will we do what is necessary, 369 00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:45.400 just like the issue of the referendum? The issue of the referendum, 370 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:50.199 although constitutional traps can also be made, as has been done with Amnesty, 371 00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.639 which we will see what Europe says. Uh, the last verdict that can 372 00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:59.360 be overturned by this Amnesty law is still pending, because it has, it 373 00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:07.079 has, it has, it has, it has many holes in the issue 374 00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:08.239 legally speaking, but the issue of the referendum is not the referendum. From 375 00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:15.880 all points of view. A referendum on independence is impossible. It is impossible 376 00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:22.280 because two thirds of the House do not give and talk about whether we will 377 00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:25.360 not give, do not give in any way. Then it can no longer 378 00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:29.039 be done there. It happens to be good,' cause you say good. 379 00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:30.599 Now they' re saying no and then they might end up saying yes. 380 00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:36.760 I mean Sanchez and company. But it' s not about that anymore. 381 00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:39.840 It' s about me being a political sophie. It has left us 382 00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:45.519 a bad taste of mouth in this and then in Spanish politics we have the 383 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:51.880 issue of Koldo, we have the issue of suspicion. Yes, he does 384 00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:58.039 not suspect. There are well- founded data that there has been an exchange 385 00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:00.199 of influence on the part of the wife, the President of the Government, 386 00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:05.239 of the performance he made of those days of retirement and such and personal victimism. 387 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:08.920 So this ends badly, this ends one way or another. This is 388 00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:15.239 beta somewhere. If really good, the one who would have committed the crime 389 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:19.280 if it had been committed, would really be Pedro Sanchez. I don' 390 00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:22.760 t see your wife making a letter of recommendation. Possibly that' s not 391 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:27.519 illegal, it' s unethical. Because she' s the wife of the 392 00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:31.519 government. But the key is the question they ask Pedro Sanchez. You knew 393 00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:37.239 that letter had been sent before granting to the company that your wife recommended the 394 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:44.480 letter, because if he knew, obviously and gave you a generous subsidy, 395 00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:49.880 there is a traffic of influence, then, but it does not answer. 396 00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:52.840 He says you' re attacking me. You want me to boast to say 397 00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:59.119 good you, if it' s a lie, clear it up and tell 398 00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:00.679 the truth, tell it or your truth at least, but it doesn' 399 00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:01.320 t clear it up. He converts everything, I mean, I' m 400 00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:05.639 honest, but I don' t give explanations. Of course, that' 401 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:09.199 s a contradiction. If you are honest with explanations and clarify what has happened 402 00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:14.920 to that Charter, with that recommendation and with the granting of money to whom 403 00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:20.599 your wife recommended. Sure, there' s another thong with this theme, 404 00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:23.360 because this is the route you have. If not, it is not, 405 00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:28.239 but there are indications that the letters of recommendation are, which are proven. 406 00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:31.960 It is, of course, Recael' s responsibility to the President, because 407 00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:35.400 after he has finished, it would not work for the State. But what 408 00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:39.039 I think is that the President' s wife must move away from what is 409 00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:43.920 the practice of public life insofar as it is going to compromise him or whether 410 00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:47.559 it is purely about him or not to create problems. So, in fact, 411 00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:53.559 look at the Angela Amerkel, not that she was with President of President, 412 00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:58.639 not Chancellor of Germany, she wasn' t her husband, she was 413 00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.199 with her, etcetera, but she had no relevant role in anything. Angela 414 00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:06.119 ' s husband went to Merker. Why, because any performance is going to 415 00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:12.039 compromise your partner. And in that sense, I don' t think that 416 00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.480 ' s been taken care of. I mean, it' s not to 417 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:17.719 say that the woman doesn' t work, but to say that the woman 418 00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:22.840 in a high position, if you' re in business, is going to 419 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:25.159 compromise the husband or the print company. If the high office thing is going 420 00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:30.920 to compromise the husband, he' s going to compromise the wife. Listen 421 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:37.760 to merquel no de angel amer that the prototype of model politics integrates as there 422 00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:45.480 has not been in recent years. There has been no other or other life, 423 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.159 which is an example of Protestant ethics. She daughter of pastor and Protestant 424 00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:53.320 confesses look. There are anecdotes of, for example, when she invited him 425 00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:59.440 to an act as chancellor and went and went with her husband. She the 426 00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:01.719 husband paid off. The ticket didn' t allow him to get paid. 427 00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:07.519 She always lived her apartment with her husband, to say, it was an 428 00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:15.960 absolute ethic that contrasts totally with everything we are living here in Spain. Well, 429 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:20.719 if we still have Uncle Berni there, the Cooldo and company case, 430 00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:28.199 well here. Not this one way and another and of things and political unrest 431 00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:31.440 that is clear, the mud machine has it the other party and we are 432 00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:38.239 not the victims. The thing is, this hypochiety. It is true that, 433 00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:45.159 unfortunately, many lie and sometimes all to a greater or lesser extent. 434 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:51.159 While few are saved, you don' t have to grab them with tweezers, 435 00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:53.079 but there are some who lie a lot and then go to the facts. 436 00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:57.119 I think the matter of mud is not true, that is, there 437 00:43:57.199 --> 00:43:59.280 is always a complaint. It' s true that after that it' s 438 00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:02.599 magnified. In short, it becomes a monothema. And in that sense, 439 00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:07.599 you do emphasize yourself and sometimes you can fall into some manipulation. But the 440 00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:13.920 facts are the facts, that is as the saying goes, the truth, 441 00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:16.960 the truth tell the manon or tell your porter. You don' t have 442 00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:19.480 to go to the facts. I' m telling you the facts. Pedro 443 00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:22.880 Sánchez is not clarifying it at all, so he looks at it contrasts with 444 00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:25.360 Isabel Díaz. Ayus or with all the trouble he also has with his partner, 445 00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:30.639 but she has gone out to say what is real, because you may 446 00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:35.880 agree to criticize him to look better or worse, but he has responded to 447 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:37.760 the accusations. Instead, Sanchez doesn' t answer anymore. It seems serious 448 00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:45.000 to me that a charge so relevant with an accusation in front of it is 449 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:50.679 also creating a serious conflict, because it simply does not tell the answer to 450 00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:53.400 the key question that you are asking it. And what has happened with Isabel 451 00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:57.280 ten ludo, with her boyfriend, who is neither her husband, is her 452 00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:02.840 boyfriend, her partner, who can be a temporary and such the whole maneuver 453 00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:08.800 of the Attorney General of the State, with his emissaries and all that, 454 00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:15.079 this is another shameful thing that is going to be the recursado, clearly, 455 00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.199 because we are going to this. If I use it and leaked information, 456 00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:22.239 I think there are tithes It was wrong in the sense that it got carried 457 00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:27.039 away with feeling. It was not political and he wanted to depend on that 458 00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:30.639 person to whom it is already clear that he has a special affection and could 459 00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:32.679 perfectly have said. It' s an individual person' s problem. It 460 00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:36.880 has nothing to do with me or some personal relationship we have, but it 461 00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:38.119 ' s your problem and it' s not mine. Sure, and he 462 00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:40.800 came in to defend, and I think he was wrong there. But yes, 463 00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.760 it is true that it has nothing to do with either the Community of 464 00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:50.000 Madrid or anything that it has done. Díaz Ayuso has mentioned something that also 465 00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:54.920 seems very serious to me, and it is the infiltration of the counterweight charges 466 00:45:55.000 --> 00:46:00.480 of the Chekan Balas, which said before that he must always have a government, 467 00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:05.280 and it is the judicial counterweight. All fiscal positions, high tax offices 468 00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:07.360 that are, in theory, to oversee the Government, to prevent the Government 469 00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:15.079 from attributing actions above the law, are positions of trust of the Government. 470 00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:21.320 Many of them have been relevant charges within Pedro Sánchez' s soso, so 471 00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:24.480 whoever' s going to supervise you by a friend will tell you the one 472 00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:29.519 that you' ve put in place that his position depends on you and that, 473 00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:31.239 moreover, ideologically, he' s with you. It' s gonna 474 00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:36.960 be the one to set you straight when you' re making a public and 475 00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:40.599 clear mistake. The latest, the Ministry of the Interior telling the judges what 476 00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:45.760 to decide. In the case of Pedro Sánchez' s wife, you have 477 00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:50.159 to file the case. You publicly told the judge, man, please, 478 00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:55.480 you should be a minister who respects the judges to the fullest. He' 479 00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:59.320 s saying the judges have to do it. What you' re saying is 480 00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:01.960 that I think it' s so aberrant. They' re so crazy, 481 00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:07.440 this has no head. I don' t know if people realize it, 482 00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:13.519 but in the course we' re going is a course that no longer because 483 00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.519 of political partisanship, but because of the kind of action we' re building. 484 00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:22.960 We are removing all the columns that make a country stand up and that 485 00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:28.000 there is no totalitarianism and that governments have balances, that decisions are consensual within 486 00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:36.239 your party, but also with the other parties. And then we have to 487 00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:45.119 add to this the whole question of Israel. Spain, with an incredible political 488 00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:52.320 clumsiness, is not only true that it can make a protest about the situation, 489 00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:58.039 perhaps of the attacks that must be understood all that the background of what 490 00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:04.639 began is this violence, but macabre that were never and that have terrorized the 491 00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:10.519 whole population and have them kidnapped as human shields. And there' s the 492 00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:15.400 big problem. It is true that we must have mercy on the civilian population, 493 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:25.440 which is also exposed to attacks. But the reality is that the Spanish 494 00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:31.280 government aligns to make the declaration and recognition of the Palestinian state. This I 495 00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:37.400 believe that as few countries have formally made three countries out of the almost thirty 496 00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:42.480 countries of the European Union and either we are either not the dumbest in the 497 00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:45.960 class or because of political inopportunity. If this were to be discussed at another 498 00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:54.280 time and then that anti- Semitism that Pilar Rahola has dared to denounce very 499 00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:59.599 bravely. No, by the way, a woman. For me the weird 500 00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:02.159 situation. It' s like a bucket of Kubrick that I think only God 501 00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:07.679 is capable of recomposing and that I feel really incapable. Now what I am 502 00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:09.840 clear about are certain pieces that have to be taken into account. On the 503 00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:16.079 one hand, the only democratic country in the whole Middle East is Israel, 504 00:49:16.360 --> 00:49:22.639 that is, all these people who attack. Israel is a country that defends 505 00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:28.599 democracy, which gives a dignity role to women, which does not, of 506 00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:34.800 course, kill homosexuals as other Arab countries do. That' s why half 507 00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:37.880 the women can study, they don' t have to wear veils. I 508 00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:40.840 ' m sure if anyone' s going to live Middle Someone, they' 509 00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:44.239 re going to Israel before any other country. This entry not the second, 510 00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:52.639 it is clear that the terrible beastly attack that he has ever done and on 511 00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:57.920 Israel is a barbarity and must be condemned And it is never a terrorist group 512 00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:01.079 that never governs Palestine, by which to say that the State of Palestine must 513 00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:05.239 recognize it, that is, that you will never recognize it in the background, 514 00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:07.639 not and do it right now in the midst of a conflict, when 515 00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:12.119 in a marriage it is about to divorce, when there are people who say 516 00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:15.280 do not have a child and so you will unite badly, it will generate 517 00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:17.519 more problems still. If it is a solution, it is not the time 518 00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:22.880 to apply it. Of course, and on the other hand, it is 519 00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.800 true that what you are doing in the so- yeah net An yahuno Israel 520 00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:30.800 Netanyahu is a barbarity. I believe that a strong reaction is understandable at the 521 00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:35.440 outset, but the prolongation in time and the punishment of the civilian population. 522 00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:39.159 I really, I have to condemn him, say, there has to be 523 00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:43.880 another solution. The end does not justify the means. Then and Netanyahu does 524 00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:45.840 it in large part because he wants to stay in power, because he has 525 00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:50.760 behind him a series of allegations of corruption, etc, which, as long 526 00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:52.559 as he is President, will not be applied to him. Yeah, I 527 00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:54.639 mean, they' re pieces that all have to be taken into account. 528 00:50:55.159 --> 00:51:01.440 And then Yolanda Díaz' s statement saying that we had to get a free 529 00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:06.639 Palestine from the river to the sea, from Fordan to the Mediterranean, is 530 00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:09.159 the motto of never, that is, she said we have to end Israel, 531 00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:14.679 the declaration she had and then she wanted to explain it more or less, 532 00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.119 but she hasn' t really clarified it. So I think it' 533 00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:22.840 s a super complicated situation that the great United States, Germany, France, 534 00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:29.000 and so on. They' re there balancing, because they really don' 535 00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:30.599 t know how to find a way out. I believe that what you are 536 00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:36.280 doing in the Tanyahu must be condemned, and the war should be ended in 537 00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:39.840 any way possible. Yes, but not by attacking Israel as a nation, 538 00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:44.760 because it is a nation that deserves all the respect and so we go to 539 00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.119 the subject of our believing by carlo. Israel has a cultural background, a 540 00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:53.119 history and we are going to say a role in God' s plan so 541 00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:57.679 special that we can only have sympathy with that people who, moreover, have 542 00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.639 suffered, because the Nazi holocaust, which has no comparison with what is happening 543 00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:06.360 in Gaza. As much as you want to compare, not good and incomparable. 544 00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:14.320 It is not true and historically, the persecutions, atrocious and exterminations in 545 00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:22.960 different epochs of history. Or repeatedly this kind of assassination against Israel, always 546 00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:27.719 over and over again. But we' re not here when people hear us. 547 00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:34.400 We do not agree with the aggressive policy of net ayahun against the population 548 00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:38.039 at all. This has to stop. The innocent as they are dying, 549 00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:43.880 do not have to die in any way. But how much of it is 550 00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:49.039 confused one thing with the other and then we carry a curse as a country. 551 00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:54.679 And this is not easily believed by anyone, because historic Israel and Israel 552 00:52:54.800 --> 00:53:00.000 are the only country, the only millennial country that has been historically reconstituted the 553 00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:06.280 only one. There are countries that have been reconstituted, but they are not 554 00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:09.519 millennials three hundred, four hundred, five hundred, the longest, but the 555 00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:15.639 only millennial country that has been historically recomposed, according to biblical prophecies, is 556 00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:19.519 the Israel of God, the Israel that God used as his vehicle to bring 557 00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:22.719 the message to the world and from where our Savior also came. And there 558 00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:29.760 are words of God that love that people and so do we, because we 559 00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:32.000 have great ancestry over Israel. But we do not justify all the wrong things 560 00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:37.719 done by Israel politically speaking, but what the Spanish Government is doing, this 561 00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:42.559 is a mistake and hurts the country. That clear mistake is already greater. 562 00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:49.280 I believe that he is doing so to direct his gaze towards international issues, 563 00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:52.760 precisely to avoid all the issues that we are talking about the wife of Pedro 564 00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:58.800 Sánchez de Begoña, etc, and to distract in this way and give an 565 00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:01.559 appearance of great political leader. For me, apart from being really wrong, 566 00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:07.519 it' s a mario hour of distraction and good. For the rest, 567 00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:13.440 we have a good idea, because look at the background of the Ukraine war 568 00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:21.480 with Russia Ukraine we also had Hagleski here recently this week. This week we 569 00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:24.280 practically had it for Spain. The President, well, he' s engaged. 570 00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:30.079 We will see when this conflict also ends, because I suppose that at 571 00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:36.679 some point there will be an end to this unfortunate and painful history of the 572 00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:45.280 conflict between Russia and Ukraine. There are hot parts in the world now all 573 00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:52.800 focus on Israel and the Palestinian conflict on Israel and Palestine, but I mean 574 00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:55.000 that the spotlights sometimes go from one side to the other changes the scenario. 575 00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:01.079 Yes, there' s the topic of the media magnifying glass, which focuses 576 00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:08.400 on something because it generates interest and makes people read or see more or listen 577 00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:15.440 to certain programs. But there is even another war in Congo, there is 578 00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:20.199 a terrible war in Miseria. Thousands and thousands of Christians are being massacred because 579 00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:24.320 they are Christians and they are practically not in the media. I mean, 580 00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:29.679 there' s a certain selectivity. I don' t say it' s 581 00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:34.320 mean, at least always, but it' s very paradoxical. Not that 582 00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:38.480 you pay attention to certain situations, because at that moment they become those that 583 00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:44.159 are on the candlestick and then disappear, as sometimes happens with earthquakes tragedies, 584 00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:51.079 etcetera. And it changes when what had happened before has not yet been solved. 585 00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:59.320 So I think that the media are sadly following the public interest and not 586 00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:07.039 actually doing their job of reporting on everything that is happening. Yeah, going 587 00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:13.599 through. Page Peter. We have had the pleasure, both you and a 588 00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:20.400 servant, to be able to attend the Conference, to this International Conference of 589 00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:25.159 Parliament and Faith which to me has seemed a magnificent conference with the participants and 590 00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:30.440 with a delicacy on each of the issues that have been raised, very well 591 00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:37.760 focused. Right, yeah, I liked it Look. I would summarize it 592 00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:42.079 a little bit by Lui bon Garra, when he made his presentation of the 593 00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:46.920 general division, saying that politicians, the media already recognize us evangelicals that we 594 00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:52.360 are an entity that cares about the most disadvantaged, that we have the hand, 595 00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:55.960 that we arrive where it does not reach the state, that we do 596 00:56:57.039 --> 00:57:00.800 not distinguish people when it comes to giving help, but that it seems that 597 00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:04.039 we stay there. And yet the evangelical faith, the Protestant action, is 598 00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:07.880 much more than that. That is a branch, it is not an arm, 599 00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:10.159 but that we have a lot to say at the level of thought, 600 00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:14.840 at the level of politics, at the level of dialogue, because what we 601 00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:19.960 are talking about conflicts, we are used internally to having differences and solving them 602 00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:23.639 by talking or if we discuss them, we end up then giving ourselves a 603 00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:28.599 hug and moving on together. And I believe that Spain needs that contribution that 604 00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:32.280 we evangelicals have and on the issues of Parliament and faith that were discussed, 605 00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:37.039 because from artificial intelligence, the theme of Agenda two thousand thirty, the theme 606 00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:39.199 of the role of women in church and society, the issue of immigration. 607 00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:45.920 Anyway, there were contributions like you say that would be very interesting to develop. 608 00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:52.440 And the point is that we do not get believers, with true Christian 609 00:57:52.880 --> 00:58:00.280 values that apply that vision to the practical reality around us. There is a 610 00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:06.519 certain glass ceiling that makes us not reach decision- making positions to be able 611 00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:10.199 to influence in part, because there are people who say that anyone who is 612 00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:15.440 religious is already a problem, a danger no, that it is like saying 613 00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:17.119 that when there is an atheist it is a danger no. If he is 614 00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:21.440 a good professional and does it well, he will work well, even if 615 00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:24.119 he does not agree with his spiritual vision and, on the other hand, 616 00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:30.920 the traditional Catholic vision, which occupies certain spaces and occupies them, and there 617 00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:31.920 he does not give us any room for evangelicals. So we are there in 618 00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:37.880 a nobody' s field, where I believe that Spain, there has a 619 00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:43.440 deficit, because the rest of Europe, where Protestantism did reach an important social 620 00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:49.400 presence, because it has reached those places and has had a very positive influence. 621 00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:55.360 So it is, it is from what we hear and the lectures of 622 00:58:55.400 --> 00:59:00.760 the reflections were very interesting of people who are media, people who are some 623 00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:06.480 senior official of the or who, moreover, combined pastors and others that are 624 00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:10.159 related to the political class, also to public life directly or indirectly, with 625 00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:17.960 very very enriching topics. And, moreover, I liked very much the balance, 626 00:59:19.239 --> 00:59:23.000 the way to speak it from a sense, from a Christian worldview, 627 00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:29.719 of course, which is what we have, and with the essentially Christian values 628 00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:36.599 that are so valuable and so essential for human coexistence and for the balance of 629 00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:42.480 human life. But also, with a temperance and with some balance. I 630 00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:44.960 could say no, but does this always talk about the same thing, do 631 00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:45.280 they decorate over there or over here? Don' t you? Don' 632 00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:45.639 t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' 633 00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:50.800 t you? There we spoke in depth, with seriousness, with rigor, 634 00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:55.360 with data and, obviously, from a thing like each one has his way 635 00:59:55.480 --> 01:00:00.480 of understanding life and so do we. But there was no political position. 636 01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:07.880 It means everyone has what they have and it' s true in public life 637 01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:13.519 they have this new generation of ours and I don' t know if any 638 01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:19.960 of the new notes, which is more mature, should land at different levels 639 01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:23.119 to be voices, interveners in social mediation, in social intervention. And this 640 01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:28.840 is necessary because it is not like a prophetic voice to say. Gentlemen, 641 01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:35.760 this is not the way. Someone has to say it from a platform like 642 01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:43.119 Congress. But well said and have the necessary qualities to say. That' 643 01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:45.719 s what I think. What the evangelism says God is holy and light. 644 01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:51.400 It does not mean imposing anything or forcing people to have a certain vision, 645 01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:57.079 but to participate and in that contribution. The Gospel Jesus said that it is 646 01:00:57.199 --> 01:01:01.559 someone who is light, something that gives good flavor, that prevents corruption and 647 01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:05.960 at the same time it is light that removes darkness and gives clarity and transparency. 648 01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:08.719 We were talking before Angel to Merkel, which was an example as a 649 01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:13.960 politician. There are other politicians in the history of Europe who have been gyente 650 01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:19.119 geniuses. The founder of the Red Cross was also Evangelical Luther King, to 651 01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:23.079 say, someone so well known Wilverforce, who was the one who got slavery 652 01:01:23.199 --> 01:01:29.639 to be abolished in England. So I think we should be there, that 653 01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:35.079 is, and that the new generations must not be the only way, because 654 01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:39.679 but we must participate in all the ways in which society allows us to maintain, 655 01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:44.519 of course, social work, love, neighbor, the needy, but 656 01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:49.639 without letting that also be present in forums and forums where things are decided so 657 01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:57.079 that our voice is heard. Now we' re going to have a meeting 658 01:01:57.119 --> 01:02:00.000 at the end of June. I think it' s the two thousand twenty 659 01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:06.639 - one game in Cordoba where we' re going to have an act on 660 01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:08.440 Protestant memory and the Protestant Secretary of State for Memory is going to participate. 661 01:02:09.719 --> 01:02:15.519 We had a conversation at the Moncloa that we were Eva Sierra, Manuel Suárez, 662 01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:21.599 Antonio Simón and I, and talking to him, it turns out that 663 01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:27.840 in the origins of Spanish democracy. There are Protestant figures who are not known 664 01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:30.559 to be Protestants and talking to him, by naming her Sell Simoni, especially 665 01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:35.400 that he was a great connoisseur of history, he said that he was a 666 01:02:35.559 --> 01:02:40.280 pastor, a teacher and pastor of the people. Then we' ve been 667 01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:43.480 there. We haven' t been there. And I believe that, for 668 01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:45.360 example, this act serves to vindicate him. If an act is going to 669 01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:50.400 have a repercussion, it has a category, it has a high level, 670 01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:52.960 and I think we should, like being there, be in many places. 671 01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:58.039 We don' t always say Abenaban' s movie when the war ends, 672 01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:00.639 in which a friend of amuno' s tyrannical coconut appears. We have to 673 01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:05.239 rescue and let people know that we' ve been and that we' ve 674 01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:08.559 been contributing to society. We have been contributing common sense, We have been 675 01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:13.400 contributing in favor of freedom of conscience, of religious freedom, for example, 676 01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:16.000 the subject now so much debated, the subject of transsexuality and all gender ideology. 677 01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:20.800 We do not agree with her, but we respect that she thinks differently, 678 01:03:21.599 --> 01:03:25.119 but we bring common sense saying that science and scientific criteria must be applied, 679 01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:30.320 not simply ideology and, finally, so many aspects where if people do 680 01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:35.920 not radicalize, if people listen, I think we will have a lot to 681 01:03:35.960 --> 01:03:38.519 contribute to society. And if we are not heard, society is losing a 682 01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:45.320 very important value. Without a doubt, gentlemen and you cannot imagine that Pedro 683 01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:50.239 Tarquis is a multifaceted name, besides being the Director General of Aeropodo, Protestant 684 01:03:50.320 --> 01:04:01.079 and founder of digital Protestant and the different media that make it up. Look 685 01:04:01.440 --> 01:04:06.079 is poet Olivo truncated Israel is his latest prophecy. Yeah, and hey, 686 01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:12.559 I really liked it. Look says Olivo truncated Israeli grafted from strangers who drink 687 01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:16.480 from your sap, to root in your skin. Millennial olive tree with your 688 01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:20.000 being born of light and water, son of fire and bush, which lit 689 01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:25.719 without burning you sprout from the earth and from the eternal and together in your 690 01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:30.639 embrace at the time, white ties of peace and the flight of the black 691 01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:34.920 crow of the green. How will I not pray Olivo, this pilgrim walker 692 01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:40.199 from the far sefarat to take peace into the soul of your soil, in 693 01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:46.960 the beloved Jerusalem? Wawnito recited by you most beautiful still seems to me to 694 01:04:47.599 --> 01:04:53.760 hear here what a beautiful voice you have or the truth, yes, well, 695 01:04:54.079 --> 01:04:56.320 but this poetry is beautiful. Well from there you can see there in 696 01:04:57.159 --> 01:05:02.360 your section also Blue look, poems and poems. He goes out to write 697 01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:06.280 on a trip to Jerusalem, visiting Mount Olives, there near Jerusalem, and 698 01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:11.360 it was a feeling that you should know that Jesus was there, that Jesus 699 01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:16.320 wept, wept over Jerusalem before arriving there, that Jesus suffered, died and 700 01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:23.280 died at the hands of the Jewish people, though justified by the Romans. 701 01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:27.719 But he loved, loved Israel despite all eyesight. There we have the best 702 01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:31.039 example of how God, on the one hand, is just and I told 703 01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:35.280 the truth and sometimes corrected Israel, but I did not stop loving it. 704 01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:39.480 No, I think that' s a good example. Yeah, plus, 705 01:05:39.559 --> 01:05:43.679 it' s inspired by Romans. Chapter eleven, which speaks of the link 706 01:05:43.679 --> 01:05:46.079 Henry, which we have been grafted into the natural olive tree. How beautiful 707 01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:55.079 and this dedication, therefore, dear friend, Pedro Tarquís, director general of 708 01:05:55.159 --> 01:06:01.639 Protestant of aeropaid Protestant, the media, what matters the evangelical media and all 709 01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:08.039 these years, all the work that you have been doing, really magnificent Peter, 710 01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:15.960 who has also updated society many public authorities that come to the pages of 711 01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:18.960 digital Protestant, because it is a means afterwards some others have come out in 712 01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:24.519 this case of evangelical actuality also much later, but that is also like the 713 01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:31.280 informer of ferede, but already digital Protestant every day with a group of journalists 714 01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:39.079 of magnificent articles of first level at all levels of inspiration, of reflection, 715 01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:45.119 of debate and always, with a tone and moreover, of impartiality, because 716 01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:49.599 there are sometimes reports that things happen that are not of the most pleasant for 717 01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:54.840 us, but also autocritical credibility of a medium when you also count what does 718 01:06:55.440 --> 01:07:00.679 not suit you to what upsets you. As we said before politics, human 719 01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:05.239 mistakes must be recognized. As far as the media is concerned, I think 720 01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:10.760 we have made progress. Apart from Protestant and evangelical focus and digital evangelical, 721 01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:15.280 I believe that the evangelical media have made a very important leap forward. Of 722 01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:21.119 course, evangelical news, but it is also on the radio, for example, 723 01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:26.360 Apart from a vinami peace radio meeting time. I believe that we have 724 01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:30.199 a means of solidarity with television, a means of quality. Not really that 725 01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:34.719 we have impacted and specifically Protestant. Yes, it' s true that they 726 01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:38.880 read to us journalists, they read to us politicians. When there are elections, 727 01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:43.840 sometimes we do interviews with politicians and many of them are reading digital Protestant, 728 01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:47.519 not every day, but they follow it and it is also a way 729 01:07:47.559 --> 01:07:53.039 to get to society and get to know us. And I think that there 730 01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:57.119 we have taken an important step, although, of course, it makes a 731 01:07:57.239 --> 01:08:02.840 lot of progress, because happy to dare to push something that was not easy, 732 01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:05.679 it was not easy in the middle. There are so many mists, 733 01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:11.199 but it is a very important reality that is blessing all the Christian people and 734 01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:15.279 many more people from our surrounding environment, from public life as well, from 735 01:08:15.359 --> 01:08:19.399 social life. Peter, dear, friend, thank you for being with us 736 01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:24.640 on the train of life. Nothing' s been a pleasure going up wrong. 737 01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:28.479 Be worth getting me down, but well, they talk about taking the 738 01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:30.840 station to keep doing things. Yes, sir, a hug buddy, see 739 01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:57.800 you soon, a hug. Bye- bye. Or how many we' 740 01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:05.680 re all gonna be brar, what you can hear, what we' re 741 01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:12.760 partying, you can' t shut up, the intensity goes up, what 742 01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:29.039 a place it is. We' re all going to sing, all my 743 01:09:29.720 --> 01:09:41.880 two of us are going to mindate I' m going to and to taste, 744 01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:55.359 to sing without stopping what I' m going to watch, come enjoy 745 01:09:55.359 --> 01:10:10.399 without vei nar us the ladies our strength, or we' re going to 746 01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:25.680 celebrate that you don' t live save and I don' t want you 747 01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:41.680 to go back to stop from lying rational bone waiting all together we' re 748 01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:54.079 going to sing, we' re all ready, we' re going to 749 01:10:54.159 --> 01:11:08.079 shout, because that I' m going to give come sing, if for 750 01:11:08.359 --> 01:11:11.159 this poaching I' m going to devadad and enjoy without life, I' 751 01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:11.159 m going to pot to sing, is that I' m going to listen, 752 01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:15.119 to dance, to harass your thirst. Oh, thank you we' 753 01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:21.199 re with the Lord because he saved us when they say threats to see like 754 01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:31.720 this. Jesus catching us, releasing us what great love, Jesus, Jesus 755 01:11:31.880 --> 01:11:42.560 forgives us and we child how good I look, Jesus, we fell silent, 756 01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:51.399 we can see that in singing of the sea of jess Jesus forgives us 757 01:11:53.479 --> 01:12:38.119 they saw of God that good oya s or good opposite o o s o? 758 01:12:41.720 --> 01:12:45.439 Traffic and Road Safety Law has changed. We changed the rules, because 759 01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:47.880 the way we moved has also changed. Therefore, now the deadline to recover 760 01:12:47.960 --> 01:12:51.680 the starting balance of points is two years, without committing infringements that involve the 761 01:12:51.800 --> 01:12:59.039 loss of new times points, new rules. General Traffic Directorate, Ministry of 762 01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:01.520 the Interior. Leg of Spain. Sixty- eight percent of minors have consumed 763 01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:09.199 alcohol in the last month. Its continued consumption. It causes physical damage and 764 01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:15.880 generates family conflicts, but calm sure that your daughter does not drink really minor 765 01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:20.079 without alcohol, educate, inform, prevent. Government of Spain. Juan invests 766 01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:26.560 180 euros a month in suffering. Alberto invests 200 euros in extortion. Carlos 767 01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:30.279 invests 150 euros in kidnappings. Every time you pay, you' re investing 768 01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:35.800 in mobs, extortion, harassment, helping them out, don' t invest 769 01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:39.720 in suffering against trafficking in women. The Government of Spain is aware of this. 770 01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:45.960 If you want to visit our website wwwww. Stop the train of life. 771 01:13:45.640 --> 01:14:31.720 Stop the train of life. Or your ladies and gentlemen, here we 772 01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:40.079 are in good company. I had an open door and open doors you can 773 01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:45.239 ' t have. I' m in good company with my good friend Luis 774 01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:51.319 Argente. Welcome, Luis, to your house, well found and thank you 775 01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:55.520 very much. For me. It' s a good thing, because it 776 01:14:55.720 --> 01:14:57.159 ' s a pleasure to be here so much where you call me. You 777 01:14:57.239 --> 01:15:02.359 ' re a Barcelonaan who' s been your life in Barcelona, but you 778 01:15:02.479 --> 01:15:04.960 ' re going to run away from the city and live near the sea, 779 01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:13.640 but not too close. No yes, the veganova between sea and mountain, 780 01:15:13.720 --> 01:15:16.640 because the mountain is ten minutes away with cars, that is to say it 781 01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:19.760 will not go to YouTube, look not to see the jantru and to the 782 01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:23.600 beach Andalusian. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you scare off with your little 783 01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:27.960 dog for a little walk. My dog loves the mountain on my part and 784 01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:30.720 loves the beach on my wife' s part. Yes, he' s 785 01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:32.800 very happy. So one of them likes the beach and another likes the mountain 786 01:15:32.920 --> 01:15:36.880 and you give it away. When you walk out the dog, one goes 787 01:15:36.880 --> 01:15:41.159 for the bontaña and you look good on the beach. Well, you got 788 01:15:41.239 --> 01:15:45.079 the beach from your house. Nothing. A moment we know calmly walking is 789 01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:48.039 of descent and in a moment we are on the beaches. If these parties 790 01:15:48.399 --> 01:15:53.680 are making you jealous of those who have no sea. I' m sorry, 791 01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:56.560 no. Here we all have bad value is the barceloneta, you' 792 01:15:56.560 --> 01:15:59.079 re already things, but well, no, but I mean those who live 793 01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:03.600 more inside than listening. We are surrounded, We are a peninsula, we 794 01:16:03.680 --> 01:16:10.319 are surrounded by sea, the Cantabrian Sea, the Atlantic Ocean, the Mediterranean, 795 01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:13.199 Mediterranean, yes, yes, yes, yes, we are sailors, 796 01:16:13.399 --> 01:16:15.760 that is, yes, yes, yes. We have a marine vocation. 797 01:16:16.479 --> 01:16:23.880 Luis Luis Argenti, you were born in not in Barcelona. No. I 798 01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:28.880 ' m aragones. I am a mañico of the province of terbert to be 799 01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:30.960 exact of the teral province, of the province of Teruranga, and not far 800 01:16:31.039 --> 01:16:35.039 from a population that I suppose will collect many people called Calanda. Calanda, 801 01:16:35.159 --> 01:16:40.479 it does have canisters. It will be known to the athletes for cinemas I 802 01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:42.760 ' ve been to Calanda. Then comes Calanda, which are the themes, 803 01:16:42.840 --> 01:16:45.680 the covers, and then comes Alcoriso, exactly from there dream, yes, 804 01:16:46.239 --> 01:16:49.800 Alcañiz is a historic city, very beautiful. By the way, ton has 805 01:16:49.880 --> 01:16:55.439 a lot of history and Calanda. I think some of the movie producers have 806 01:16:55.479 --> 01:17:00.000 made films in Calanda. I remember some of them that beño is coming exactly 807 01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:04.720 buñel and company like this always movies as well as very very dramatic. No, 808 01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:09.960 I don' t. The bottom line, Spanish cinema is that one 809 01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:15.640 day yes, yes, very dramatic and good, and then you get to 810 01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:20.319 Barcelona when I eat bo a long time ago, I really do, yes, 811 01:17:20.359 --> 01:17:24.399 that I have memory, but I don' t remember well, but 812 01:17:24.520 --> 01:17:27.039 I was between eight and nine years old I set out with your parents. 813 01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:31.079 Yes, my parents migrated from there and came here. Evidently, I came 814 01:17:31.199 --> 01:17:34.239 with them, that is, I was talking about many years already, many 815 01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:40.920 years that I am living in Barcelona, man, the roots never forget badly 816 01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:44.439 grateful wounds, no, that is to say that I consider myself morning and 817 01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:46.520 I love that land, but at the same time I consider myself Catalan, 818 01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:49.720 that I have done it all my wife, my children, in my work, 819 01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:53.760 my development, everything has been Catalan, that is to say that I 820 01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:56.079 consider myself also Catalan. Sure, sure, Barcelona, the Barcelona of your 821 01:17:56.159 --> 01:18:01.640 loves, except for the colau ah on the ponytail that I put you, 822 01:18:01.720 --> 01:18:05.760 there of the house where I lived, the shot and a whole taqui a 823 01:18:05.760 --> 01:18:10.079 tinglado. I' m already forgetting her. Not because, fortunately, in 824 01:18:10.119 --> 01:18:12.920 the end maybe you have to thank each other thanks to you this well cystes 825 01:18:13.239 --> 01:18:17.439 not so that in the end it can almost be a thank you. Yes, 826 01:18:17.479 --> 01:18:23.079 for those years he lived them fatally in the place where he was living 827 01:18:23.079 --> 01:18:27.479 noises. And now, when I pass by, I no longer get angry, 828 01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:30.760 obviously, because my sister lives in that area and I go there from 829 01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:34.960 time to time to see him and I no longer get angry, but I 830 01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:44.159 get depressed, I see him and I continue to see him smells, very 831 01:18:44.680 --> 01:18:45.720 strange values of needs, pains such with how beautiful Barcelona is. Uh, 832 01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:49.760 and I think so, it' s a beautiful city, very, very, 833 01:18:50.039 --> 01:18:54.119 very pretty. Yeah, I' ve traveled a lot myself, but 834 01:18:54.159 --> 01:18:59.560 I haven' t traveled a little bit and the comparative I' ll always 835 01:18:59.760 --> 01:19:03.680 come back so those urban islets that we have where all the people were going 836 01:19:03.800 --> 01:19:08.079 to see and they' re going to scream and so and they' re 837 01:19:08.079 --> 01:19:08.079 going to give Hoy horros and then they wouldn' t let us sleep. 838 01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:12.479 First, he doesn' t let go, but second he was a little 839 01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:18.279 wild, not because people, because that middle of the ontainess started to urinate 840 01:19:18.319 --> 01:19:23.680 or to desiccate. Anyway, we' ve seen assaults. My daughter, 841 01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:29.159 who' s engaged in social issues like this, has had parallas there because 842 01:19:29.199 --> 01:19:30.640 they mess with a girl who was alone or so I' ve seen it. 843 01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:39.479 I' ve been dealing with drug dealers myself. Horrifying, my God. 844 01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:44.119 That' s the ugliest version. But the pretty version also exists. 845 01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:48.399 But yes, yes, there is a very pretty one that the midwives are 846 01:19:48.520 --> 01:19:51.399 there put to nin of this is beautiful. That' s because it' 847 01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:56.600 s like being in national geography, because you see rats like rabbits calling each 848 01:19:56.640 --> 01:19:59.760 other from one place to the next and getting underneath and in the end they 849 01:19:59.760 --> 01:20:01.600 were fast. They' re almost walking. It' s nice to see. 850 01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:06.439 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, there' 851 01:20:06.520 --> 01:20:09.119 s a thing to see, there' s a thing to see. I 852 01:20:09.119 --> 01:20:14.439 ' ve been looking at the face, the hidden face of Gran Barcelona, 853 01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:18.680 Bonita, pretty, so heis. Yes, total Now watch that the rambles 854 01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:26.560 are going to be reformed from Canaletas to the gothic, the laughing door part 855 01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:30.279 and a little bit over there. Boquería, Calle la Calleba alca, Reboquería 856 01:20:30.720 --> 01:20:33.159 and all that first part, which is going to be a long time, 857 01:20:33.439 --> 01:20:38.960 but the rambla needs to be reformed. It is one of the most beautiful 858 01:20:39.079 --> 01:20:44.359 and visited boulevards in the world. So, well, there you are late. 859 01:20:44.399 --> 01:20:45.680 Absolutely. Yeah, it' s a lot more. That has been 860 01:20:46.840 --> 01:20:50.439 one of the things I would say already, a bad punch given by someone 861 01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:56.640 who at the time was running the town hall of Barcelona and there, it 862 01:20:58.159 --> 01:21:02.439 didn' t go very well there. Nothing more in diverse teaching. Luis 863 01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:08.239 You have been a man also involved in the commercial world. He has been 864 01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:15.439 a commercial director, you have also had a business entrepreneur and you have spent 865 01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:20.159 a good half- life, professional life almost all in this world. I 866 01:21:20.239 --> 01:21:28.640 have, in fact, been in three different companies, all of them multinationals, 867 01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:32.840 and one of mine or pashamia that mounts it. Yeah, yeah, 868 01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:36.239 yeah, but it' s always been the same bouquet, the capillary bouquet. 869 01:21:36.279 --> 01:21:40.840 And all this last thing has to do with seeing. Basically, the 870 01:21:41.159 --> 01:21:45.159 vast majority was beauty, hairdressing. Let' s see. I was in 871 01:21:45.239 --> 01:21:55.399 high cosmetic, in an important American milling company. Then I was in hairdressing 872 01:21:55.439 --> 01:21:59.960 a lot related to cosmetics and beauty. And after the last two times it 873 01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:04.800 has been with laboratories that effectively take care of the health of skin and hair. 874 01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:12.720 Yes, then, well, the issue of capillary is that now people 875 01:22:12.800 --> 01:22:17.159 are being made between Turkey, which has become the paracea of those who have 876 01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:25.399 problems with baldness. Well, you think Don Alltran has capillary implantation. I 877 01:22:26.039 --> 01:22:27.840 ' m not saying. I' m telling you, the truth is, 878 01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:30.079 I haven' t noticed it. No, I' m not. In 879 01:22:30.119 --> 01:22:34.039 the shape of hair it has to be an exaggerated hair. I think it 880 01:22:34.039 --> 01:22:38.560 ' s good. Americans really like tups that bombard their hair a lot, 881 01:22:39.079 --> 01:22:45.600 and we find this a little bit much of a baralles. I sang it. 882 01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:49.439 Not because both men and women are very transacted. Uh, yeah, 883 01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:53.359 yeah, yeah, no, but I thought. This man must have made 884 01:22:53.399 --> 01:22:57.560 some capillary application. I think it' s one. I haven' t 885 01:22:57.680 --> 01:23:00.760 noticed well, now I' m going to notice, but I always think 886 01:23:00.800 --> 01:23:02.399 I' ve looked at it. I mean, what a wig you wear, 887 01:23:02.720 --> 01:23:04.399 I' ve always thought about it, but it' s his own. 888 01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:08.159 The pulo, apparently it' s yours. No, I mean, 889 01:23:09.640 --> 01:23:10.640 it doesn' t look like it. It doesn' t look like it. 890 01:23:10.840 --> 01:23:13.079 Yeah, it doesn' t look like it to the naked eye, 891 01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:15.239 okay, but now I' m gonna look at it and answer that. 892 01:23:15.560 --> 01:23:16.840 I' m going to look at it, but it gives me the feeling 893 01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:19.600 that it' s done that way you' re going to see an incipient 894 01:23:19.600 --> 01:23:24.520 vale. I' m going to ask a professional question. We take good 895 01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:29.199 care of our hair. Most people don' t, and but it' 896 01:23:29.279 --> 01:23:33.479 s relatively understandable. There' s a culture. That' s what you 897 01:23:34.199 --> 01:23:35.560 ' ve had a lot of fraud and it' s still going on. 898 01:23:35.640 --> 01:23:39.720 I' ve still had a lot of fraud, a lot of hair growing. 899 01:23:39.800 --> 01:23:44.479 No. When someone talks about the hair grower and so much and there 900 01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:49.279 is a lot of lighthouse, then people are very skeptical of those issues, 901 01:23:50.399 --> 01:23:51.279 very skeptical, so they don' t take care of it too much. 902 01:23:51.359 --> 01:23:56.399 Besides, men have a fantastic advantage and it' s that women say that 903 01:23:56.479 --> 01:24:00.640 hairless men are attractive, so now yes, it' s not now in 904 01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:05.199 the past. Now. Now balds are triumphant if they succeed altogether. And 905 01:24:05.279 --> 01:24:08.119 this tells you, so why should I take care of it? No, 906 01:24:08.239 --> 01:24:12.319 and he wants the bald ones to go bald is a totally rappy figure. 907 01:24:13.039 --> 01:24:15.720 No, yes, yes, then no, but the truth is that not 908 01:24:15.800 --> 01:24:19.680 only do they take too much care because in the end they come to the 909 01:24:19.720 --> 01:24:23.359 general conclusion that there are few things to do, but the truth is that 910 01:24:23.399 --> 01:24:25.960 if there are things to do here. This is my experience for the last 911 01:24:26.920 --> 01:24:30.159 fifteen years. I think it' s been ten or ten fifteen years. 912 01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:33.560 Maybe yes, because the subject of lopecia and all that you treated also If 913 01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:39.079 it was what I said, yes, of course, to see us, 914 01:24:39.399 --> 01:24:44.239 as therapy before the hair, we always said the same thing. I' 915 01:24:44.399 --> 01:24:46.239 m not gonna tell you, I' m not gonna promise you that I 916 01:24:46.239 --> 01:24:49.640 ' m gonna get your hair out. What I can assure you is to 917 01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:55.279 keep it with a better state, with a better view, with more strength, 918 01:24:55.640 --> 01:25:00.399 with more brilliance. But keep it. Pulling out hair makes it because 919 01:25:00.479 --> 01:25:02.640 if they' re good, we see a little technical. The papillae are 920 01:25:02.760 --> 01:25:05.439 scarred in nothing to do The only thing to do is a transplant. There 921 01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:10.399 ' s no other extra story, but if they' re not, however 922 01:25:10.399 --> 01:25:13.560 stunted they are, you can pull it out. Then I leave personally, 923 01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:16.680 speaking of my own experience, I have seen how they have recovered hair, 924 01:25:18.399 --> 01:25:21.600 even universal, that is, that they had no horse or eyebrows. We 925 01:25:21.720 --> 01:25:28.079 have recovered them after going through many clinics and they have recovered and others we 926 01:25:28.079 --> 01:25:30.359 tested. If I count a case, I have to be a thousand that 927 01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:32.399 is not possible, but keeping it is always possible. It happens that care 928 01:25:32.439 --> 01:25:35.399 is required and the transplants of these, for example, have already been long 929 01:25:35.479 --> 01:25:43.000 in Turkey and especially in Turkey. Not these capiles are successful. Now they 930 01:25:43.039 --> 01:25:45.560 start to be, but now you can start consecrating. You didn' t 931 01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:50.880 have to go to Turkey. It' s just that there were specialized clinics 932 01:25:51.039 --> 01:25:54.760 here before, but they were very expensive. I mean, they didn' 933 01:25:54.800 --> 01:25:58.000 t drop you from eight, nine zero euros, ten zero euros and of 934 01:25:58.000 --> 01:25:59.720 course you had to think about it. That' s why a lot of 935 01:26:00.279 --> 01:26:02.880 people went to Turkey because for three thousand, for two thousand. I remember 936 01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:09.239 that even for 1, 500 euros they could come with a transplant done, 937 01:26:09.600 --> 01:26:11.680 but of course they had to know how to choose very well. There are 938 01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:15.800 many many clinics that good did your transplants, but I knew clearly you know 939 01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:20.399 you once noticed these famous dolls that are as if they looked not to say 940 01:26:20.479 --> 01:26:27.640 oysters or not now. The technique has improved tremendously and the truth is that 941 01:26:27.760 --> 01:26:30.439 the results are good. They' re really good. I would no longer 942 01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:31.960 recommend people who are exclusive to go to Turkey, which is this way, 943 01:26:32.159 --> 01:26:36.319 in Spain, in Madrid, in Barcelona, there are very good clinics about 944 01:26:36.359 --> 01:26:41.680 it and well of Persia, Barbie' s famous dolls and all these that 945 01:26:41.800 --> 01:26:46.199 are hairstyles. These yes I do what I see sometimes that people with the 946 01:26:46.359 --> 01:26:51.119 theme of hair, there are some who want to half cover baldness and can 947 01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:57.600 go away in a way backwards and it remains ridiculous. Not that. I 948 01:26:58.479 --> 01:27:01.399 think that' s it. It' d be nice to jump into fashion. 949 01:27:02.359 --> 01:27:05.680 From my point of view, it' s a personal opinion and rapping 950 01:27:05.720 --> 01:27:10.479 it and it' s not because you make those siligreeks for some almost in 951 01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:12.800 filigree, it' s not that you put it in danger. True you 952 01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:19.479 have normal hair, you look shaved and so you imagine why you provoke me 953 01:27:19.520 --> 01:27:25.479 that I think the truth is that I' m happy with my hair leave 954 01:27:25.479 --> 01:27:29.319 it, even if it' s all white it is, okay, but 955 01:27:29.319 --> 01:27:31.640 it doesn' t see you shaved. Sometimes I get virulis that I say 956 01:27:31.720 --> 01:27:35.359 to do something to me, but not to cut it off. No, 957 01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:39.319 yes, yes, yes, I don' t say it, because when 958 01:27:39.439 --> 01:27:42.199 you' re a bunch of a certain thing, you want to do experiments. 959 01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:45.159 Sometimes I' ve had the same glass, sometimes I' ve got 960 01:27:45.159 --> 01:27:47.960 the rampoin. But I didn' t say, no, Luis, that 961 01:27:48.039 --> 01:27:49.600 you' re not. So to say, yes, yes, yes, 962 01:27:49.880 --> 01:27:56.680 I' m going to put it blue around here, Luis, you' 963 01:27:56.960 --> 01:28:00.520 re a restless name, and that restlessness has always led you to look for 964 01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:08.960 a little bit here, over there things of entrepreneurial life too, but also 965 01:28:09.239 --> 01:28:14.119 in the spiritual, that that' s the I call the spiritual, I 966 01:28:14.119 --> 01:28:17.680 blind of the human being, not that you don' t see, you 967 01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:21.239 don' t perceive, but it' s and it' s a very 968 01:28:21.239 --> 01:28:26.880 important area of human life. Not where that spiritual restlessness is awakened in you 969 01:28:27.079 --> 01:28:30.640 by something that transcends, say or by the meaning of life as you have 970 01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:36.199 told me sometimes, for it has been a process. I do not want 971 01:28:36.319 --> 01:28:45.560 to portray myself when I began to take divine contact with the Lord but to 972 01:28:45.640 --> 01:28:49.720 answer that question. It' s already advanced, the time is ripe. 973 01:28:51.199 --> 01:28:58.520 Yes, it is that when, when, when you understand, I do 974 01:28:59.159 --> 01:29:03.359 not know how they defend to go the full breadth the depth of what Jesus 975 01:29:04.079 --> 01:29:11.039 has done for us and such from a resting and mature point of view and 976 01:29:11.039 --> 01:29:15.680 everything that I do not know, your illusions, all these fade away, 977 01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:23.079 they are not so important and there is something in you that pushes you precisely 978 01:29:23.079 --> 01:29:29.760 to mature more, to want more and, above all, to stand before 979 01:29:29.760 --> 01:29:34.000 your referent who is Jesus, and to say, everything is fine, but 980 01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:39.760 I am here in my hands, my head, my heart are to serve 981 01:29:39.760 --> 01:29:42.760 that gives you the time, the time in maturity, the work, to 982 01:29:42.760 --> 01:29:46.720 be in contact with him. And when you' re like this in those 983 01:29:48.520 --> 01:29:51.880 situations, because really the dialogue is very broad. Dialogue is constant, but 984 01:29:53.520 --> 01:30:00.199 global. Where a certain moment begins, you say, I have, I 985 01:30:00.279 --> 01:30:05.560 have to know that God who has revealed himself in Jesus and how you begin 986 01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:10.319 to listen. But you say, when you listen. I knew Jesus and 987 01:30:10.439 --> 01:30:15.960 such a good saying, Jesus lived in the early Christian era. How to 988 01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:21.159 know Jesus is a very subjective thing. How is that and how do you 989 01:30:21.239 --> 01:30:27.239 get to that moment and from there, what happens to see? If I 990 01:30:27.399 --> 01:30:30.880 understand the question correctly, I thought I could answer you. It has been 991 01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:34.520 a process, because if my beginning, from the moment I had my encounter 992 01:30:34.640 --> 01:30:42.680 with Jesus and I started then, was very very, I will be regent, 993 01:30:43.079 --> 01:30:45.760 not very mental and things have been posing half that going, learning more, 994 01:30:45.960 --> 01:30:49.439 doing more look. I' m good. You know I' m 995 01:30:49.560 --> 01:30:56.920 not in a church called Bethany and she' s given me a formation. 996 01:30:57.079 --> 01:31:02.119 I have received a training, a very important knowledge. From when I started 997 01:31:02.119 --> 01:31:08.079 until now. Knowledge has been sesional. I don' t know if any 998 01:31:08.159 --> 01:31:11.279 other congregation will know to give you so much depth in this, this, 999 01:31:11.960 --> 01:31:16.000 this is important to gain knowledge, but I' ve always said that knowledge 1000 01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:18.359 is good, that is, it' s very bad. When you don 1001 01:31:18.479 --> 01:31:21.560 ' t have it, it' s being ignorant. In this it is 1002 01:31:21.640 --> 01:31:29.880 very bad, but you also have it a lot and it doesn' t 1003 01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:34.840 give out is even worse because then you self justifies and even serves to beat 1004 01:31:34.960 --> 01:31:38.720 others to tell you such. And besides, it immobilizes a lot And such 1005 01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:42.000 And I always whenever I have taken that knowledge is for me the word is 1006 01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:45.680 very important. The verb is action and then all I get is an internal 1007 01:31:45.840 --> 01:31:50.840 personal question. I want to print her action. If I at my word, 1008 01:31:51.000 --> 01:31:57.600 the word I receive, leave it by knowledge, by like a raft 1009 01:31:57.640 --> 01:32:00.560 there quiet, then I would be quiet. But everything I get I want 1010 01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:05.720 to take action and put it in front of me to say how I do 1011 01:32:05.720 --> 01:32:09.600 it, because the truth is, I get a lot of information. I 1012 01:32:10.279 --> 01:32:13.319 don' t know if that' s your question exactly or what you' 1013 01:32:13.439 --> 01:32:14.920 re looking for at the time I answer you. I don' t know 1014 01:32:14.920 --> 01:32:19.840 about that, but the truth is, I' m not. For me 1015 01:32:19.880 --> 01:32:23.960 words are very important and if I don' t say them and if I 1016 01:32:23.960 --> 01:32:26.640 say them, I swear to respect it. So, if I hear them, 1017 01:32:27.439 --> 01:32:30.760 I think I should do the same thing and put it into action. 1018 01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:33.319 I don' t understand a phrase without action. I just don' t 1019 01:32:33.319 --> 01:32:38.920 get it. This means for you the encounter with Jesus, a change of 1020 01:32:39.039 --> 01:32:43.560 life, a change of direction in life, a change of interests, a 1021 01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:51.880 change of priorities. And at first not because it was incomprehensible to your partner, 1022 01:32:53.279 --> 01:32:57.840 your wife, but soon after she also comes to faith. Yes, 1023 01:32:58.239 --> 01:33:01.399 we' ve been very privileged. I in the first person and my house, 1024 01:33:02.239 --> 01:33:05.319 my wife and my daughter have also given themselves, no, that is 1025 01:33:05.399 --> 01:33:11.880 to say that it has been and besides, in a very way I do 1026 01:33:11.880 --> 01:33:14.159 not know how to express it, very notorious, very palpable. It hasn 1027 01:33:14.279 --> 01:33:19.479 ' t been like the vast majority of us. It has been an explosive 1028 01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:27.000 and indeed, I have started with me and ended with it, that is 1029 01:33:27.000 --> 01:33:30.720 to say, And besides, it has been a very nice process, very 1030 01:33:30.720 --> 01:33:32.960 nice until reaching that one. I will never forget her when she said, 1031 01:33:34.319 --> 01:33:38.760 she accepted the lord, that is, it was for me an explosion of 1032 01:33:38.840 --> 01:33:44.079 joy, just because she had spent days praying, praying at the doors, 1033 01:33:45.039 --> 01:33:49.840 while she was sleeping, praying that she would not leave me alone and I 1034 01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:51.960 worked wonderfully, really Mariana horllosos. How nice? How nice? If we 1035 01:33:53.000 --> 01:33:59.680 know Mariver who is a really great woman and as she has also internalized this 1036 01:33:59.800 --> 01:34:06.159 alive- seen child then life already has other dynamics and one can work, 1037 01:34:06.359 --> 01:34:11.640 can do, study, can do what the things of life. But it 1038 01:34:11.800 --> 01:34:15.880 impregnates you to Jesus with a different vision. Now, for me, as 1039 01:34:15.960 --> 01:34:18.880 I always say, for me, sir, everything is fine, it is 1040 01:34:18.880 --> 01:34:21.439 correct. I, for me, life and what' s around me is 1041 01:34:21.600 --> 01:34:30.520 fine and what happens is fine. Then I have a prospect of great hope. 1042 01:34:30.640 --> 01:34:33.720 I have a hope, I have a final goal and I live it 1043 01:34:33.800 --> 01:34:39.159 without any anxiety. I live it with peace, patience and above all, 1044 01:34:39.279 --> 01:34:45.680 my priorities have changed. My priorities were dreams determined to get illusions determined to 1045 01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:51.119 get and fight for it and those have lost all their light, that is, 1046 01:34:51.680 --> 01:34:54.600 they are still there. I don' t feel like doing things. 1047 01:34:54.640 --> 01:34:57.800 And so, but it is no longer the priority. It' s not 1048 01:34:57.840 --> 01:35:00.800 the priority for me, it' s not the first thing for my house 1049 01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:03.920 or my wife. We have another life, for a much more patient life. 1050 01:35:04.960 --> 01:35:10.960 That' s interesting, Luis, and now that you say life. 1051 01:35:11.119 --> 01:35:16.039 Evidently, life goes on, but you have another worldview. And it all 1052 01:35:16.199 --> 01:35:21.399 started well, it started before, but there was a turning point and it 1053 01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:26.000 was the Festival of Hope, true, in the two thousand fifteen in Barcelona. 1054 01:35:26.439 --> 01:35:31.279 Yes, and just a month later I' d say we go, 1055 01:35:31.560 --> 01:35:36.039 because it was older, true May festival In the beginning and I have it 1056 01:35:36.119 --> 01:35:39.479 pointed out to you because I started writing the day I had that meeting. 1057 01:35:39.560 --> 01:35:44.000 It was June 15, just a month. I remember it was just a 1058 01:35:44.039 --> 01:35:48.560 month later. That' s where it all started, where it all really 1059 01:35:48.640 --> 01:35:57.800 started from a man and a family in danger and a man in distress until 1060 01:35:57.880 --> 01:36:00.239 he had lost everything. It is that we had lost everything and distressed to 1061 01:36:00.279 --> 01:36:05.800 the extreme, to the extreme of being, because that working, trying to 1062 01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:09.920 work that did not work and, at the same time, begging and saying 1063 01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:12.159 if you are there, if it is true, to make a terrible anguish. 1064 01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:15.159 Because, well, at the end of all that, I clearly saw 1065 01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:18.199 myself that if there was no solution, I was in the street, in 1066 01:36:18.760 --> 01:36:21.840 the very street and with my wife and children, and such in the very 1067 01:36:21.840 --> 01:36:28.199 size. Look, yes, and what moments, even in the most dramatic 1068 01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:36.800 moments of life. We began to experience changes gradually and not only comfort, 1069 01:36:38.600 --> 01:36:45.279 but recovery, overcoming those crises that apparently have no way out, that leave 1070 01:36:45.359 --> 01:36:54.000 you really morally ruined, yes, spiritually, physically and you say so far 1071 01:36:54.039 --> 01:36:57.439 I cannot believe it. I haven' t been a bad person, I 1072 01:36:57.560 --> 01:37:00.680 haven' t been a bad person, I haven' t done anything and, 1073 01:37:00.680 --> 01:37:01.520 without being in front of me. I have nothing but a mess. 1074 01:37:01.960 --> 01:37:06.199 Besides, it was a change of everything you know July in a change from 1075 01:37:06.319 --> 01:37:13.960 a very affluent situation, very quiet, to a sudden situation, of total 1076 01:37:14.079 --> 01:37:16.319 disaster that is, to say we had to sell everything at home total, 1077 01:37:17.319 --> 01:37:21.720 that is, we were on the sides. In those situations there are people 1078 01:37:21.920 --> 01:37:28.560 who can think of crazy things like I' m going to say this, 1079 01:37:29.399 --> 01:37:32.000 life doesn' t make sense to me it' s all gone and for 1080 01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:33.960 me it wasn' t like that. I' ve never really thought about 1081 01:37:34.159 --> 01:37:38.359 ending life or anything like that. That no, no, no, the 1082 01:37:38.399 --> 01:37:41.000 truth is that that never failed again. That' s in that sense. 1083 01:37:41.119 --> 01:37:44.079 No, God, thank God, that hasn' t happened in my head, 1084 01:37:44.199 --> 01:37:47.279 that has to be really hard. Fortunately, that part does not, 1085 01:37:47.680 --> 01:37:53.640 but everything else does, that is, everything of emptiness of loneliness, of 1086 01:37:54.600 --> 01:37:59.439 everything I have lost and I do not know where I will go from some 1087 01:37:59.640 --> 01:38:01.439 total despair such total, that is, of having me here on the floor 1088 01:38:01.479 --> 01:38:06.119 where we were and not knowing how to do it, that is to say 1089 01:38:06.119 --> 01:38:10.199 horrifying of ros hears. The radio also had its share. No, yeah, 1090 01:38:11.159 --> 01:38:16.560 like, casually, random, well, random, maybe not. The 1091 01:38:16.640 --> 01:38:21.039 question is that looking for it, because the word came out and so and 1092 01:38:21.119 --> 01:38:27.239 so clear, when a good determined people are, when you are in those 1093 01:38:27.319 --> 01:38:31.560 situations, anything that today is of hope, you apply yourself immediately and there 1094 01:38:31.680 --> 01:38:35.880 came out the announcements of the festival of hope. I say hope. If 1095 01:38:35.960 --> 01:38:40.760 I had hope and that was repetitive, but I also saw it, I 1096 01:38:40.760 --> 01:38:45.039 mean, I heard it on the radio and so it' s the one 1097 01:38:45.119 --> 01:38:47.399 who hung me and then I saw it on the posters, it' s 1098 01:38:47.399 --> 01:38:49.039 just that it went outside the amazing advertising, the buses. I remember, 1099 01:38:49.159 --> 01:38:53.239 the great life, I remember the grit that was all on billboards and so 1100 01:38:54.000 --> 01:39:00.920 that took me. And then he also agreed that a friend, because he 1101 01:39:00.960 --> 01:39:03.079 was also going to the festival and he told me listen if you want, 1102 01:39:03.479 --> 01:39:08.800 anyone had only one Catalan, a Catalan friend from Girona, from Girona, 1103 01:39:09.279 --> 01:39:11.920 José to Liuseh. Yeah, hey, well, if you want to see 1104 01:39:12.039 --> 01:39:14.279 us and Taría opened my door like that, I don' t have to 1105 01:39:14.279 --> 01:39:15.800 go alone anymore I don' t have to mask. There you go. 1106 01:39:15.880 --> 01:39:18.760 So, okay, I' m going and that' s where it all 1107 01:39:18.760 --> 01:39:23.760 started. It all started like this. That' s the communication from the 1108 01:39:23.880 --> 01:39:26.840 waves that made me talk about it is to see it out there and it 1109 01:39:26.880 --> 01:39:30.359 ' s a person and I said I' m good at it. We 1110 01:39:30.439 --> 01:39:35.079 must see how many things happen so that God manifests himself in us uses a 1111 01:39:35.840 --> 01:39:41.840 human medium. Someone took me, Jesus. Not someone caught me, but 1112 01:39:41.840 --> 01:39:45.800 not with bad arts. No, it didn' t catch me well and 1113 01:39:45.800 --> 01:39:46.960 really well. Besides, that' s what I was living at the time. 1114 01:39:47.279 --> 01:39:50.600 Now I can see it now, then I can' t, when 1115 01:39:50.680 --> 01:39:53.960 you' re with the water around your neck. But now I can live 1116 01:39:54.079 --> 01:39:58.319 it with I don' t know if with illusion, but with joy and 1117 01:39:58.319 --> 01:40:00.439 joy. Yes, because that change is my life, our life, my 1118 01:40:01.640 --> 01:40:06.279 precious wife of my children. And to give the change that he has given 1119 01:40:06.279 --> 01:40:10.680 is good, it has no parallel, that is to say, We live 1120 01:40:10.720 --> 01:40:13.399 much better for so much abundance that we could really have. I say, 1121 01:40:13.479 --> 01:40:17.159 uh, you live a lot better and you say Jorge what hope to find. 1122 01:40:17.159 --> 01:40:19.760 And it has given me something very important, that I think we want 1123 01:40:19.920 --> 01:40:25.039 it all those who are in the faith, not everyone. In other words, 1124 01:40:25.199 --> 01:40:28.520 it has given us, as I say to you, a discernment that 1125 01:40:28.560 --> 01:40:31.520 separates us from the world in a very clear way and gives us great joy 1126 01:40:31.720 --> 01:40:39.239 and it is I who am capable as a discernment of a brother, a 1127 01:40:39.439 --> 01:40:41.319 companion when we look at ourselves or look us in the eyes. If we 1128 01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:45.279 touch each other or hug each other, knowing that' s true. I 1129 01:40:45.319 --> 01:40:49.279 have that feeling of discernment, of saying oysters, this embrace, that which 1130 01:40:49.800 --> 01:40:54.439 we are saying is true. I' m not gonna hurt this person. 1131 01:40:55.239 --> 01:40:57.520 I am not going to hurt him and, if possible, I am going 1132 01:40:57.520 --> 01:41:01.159 to help myself against others too. And that separates you a little bit from 1133 01:41:01.199 --> 01:41:04.800 a world in which that has no importance, love, companionship and such is 1134 01:41:04.800 --> 01:41:12.560 something absolutely groped, mistreated, etcetera. And that discernment, I don' 1135 01:41:12.640 --> 01:41:15.399 t know if it' s the word of history, but that contact of 1136 01:41:15.479 --> 01:41:23.239 saying oysters, you and I form stones from the same building, it' 1137 01:41:23.239 --> 01:41:29.600 s also a treasure. How many things, how many happy good moments, 1138 01:41:30.880 --> 01:41:38.920 because it is to move from a situation of uncertainty to a situation of full 1139 01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:43.600 trust in a real god. I remembered Donald Hitower singing that song that I 1140 01:41:44.199 --> 01:41:46.960 had the privilege of having home a few years ago too. Yes, because 1141 01:41:47.119 --> 01:41:55.520 I was already a believer and we invited her to Cel Sadai festivals and sang 1142 01:41:55.600 --> 01:42:00.880 my god is real in me all look. I didn' t know she 1143 01:42:01.039 --> 01:42:06.760 was a very committed woman and attended the Sadai festivals we did in Barcelona. 1144 01:42:08.880 --> 01:42:15.760 Life and freedom. I also organized festivals to raise up for the homes we 1145 01:42:15.840 --> 01:42:21.279 have had in Latin America, specifically in Colombia, in Medellín, and also 1146 01:42:21.279 --> 01:42:26.520 today we have in San Pedro Sula, in Honduras of gag children, street 1147 01:42:26.560 --> 01:42:31.399 children, helpless mothers, battered women and all and good infinity of children who 1148 01:42:31.479 --> 01:42:35.880 are already men and families who have formed, because it is twenty- eight 1149 01:42:35.920 --> 01:42:43.520 years to rescue and she, because in front of this, I had a 1150 01:42:43.640 --> 01:42:46.680 heart of solidarity, I said I will be with you and clear gift to 1151 01:42:47.479 --> 01:42:51.439 he dougle, but my god is real, real in me has washed me 1152 01:42:51.920 --> 01:42:55.760 with his crimson blood and he told us. She told us so many things 1153 01:42:55.760 --> 01:43:00.159 just like that. Yes, then, dear Louis, Hey, thank you 1154 01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:05.680 for your openness, for your transparency and tell us your name as you, 1155 01:43:06.039 --> 01:43:14.199 a common man, as one of so many does not fully find Christ and 1156 01:43:14.199 --> 01:43:15.960 the Gospel of Jesus. The good news changes your life, and I' 1157 01:43:16.079 --> 01:43:25.119 ve certainly changed it. We testify to that. Who hears us if he 1158 01:43:25.159 --> 01:43:28.279 is in the faith, understands everything perfectly, If he is not or is 1159 01:43:28.399 --> 01:43:31.600 looking for something and such hearing we may say good people who have had me 1160 01:43:31.720 --> 01:43:35.880 who know something mystical and such I would tell him to force themselves a little, 1161 01:43:36.600 --> 01:43:41.720 to force themselves a little, to say oysters, because this is a 1162 01:43:41.720 --> 01:43:45.079 decision. It' s not lightning that melts you or a kick in the 1163 01:43:45.159 --> 01:43:48.279 ass that' s gone forward. It' s a decision, if you 1164 01:43:48.279 --> 01:43:55.520 make a decision, that you need to have your own corromonition, that you 1165 01:43:55.600 --> 01:43:59.720 really fill it up, that you see it coming and you' ll see 1166 01:43:59.720 --> 01:44:01.199 that from there all are inputs. Yeah, yeah. So, dear friend, 1167 01:44:01.560 --> 01:44:04.399 thank you for being on the train of life that is your train. 1168 01:44:04.960 --> 01:44:10.399 Also, uh, you' re part of this train. He knows about 1169 01:44:10.479 --> 01:44:14.039 the life of so many landscapes. Thank you for coming, Luis, Dear 1170 01:44:14.399 --> 01:44:16.159 One give fair the next, until the next to all, until then, 1171 01:44:29.840 --> 01:44:42.479 bye You, the train of life, life today can be a great day. 1172 01:44:43.479 --> 01:44:50.560 Your word didn' t say. I just believed and reacted today I 1173 01:44:50.760 --> 01:44:58.680 decided to be brave, even though in my mind my mistakes want me to 1174 01:44:58.680 --> 01:45:04.880 be kind. It' s a robe I didn' t give up and 1175 01:45:05.279 --> 01:45:14.199 come and I feel like the abe day came is calling walnut jan always sing. 1176 01:45:15.439 --> 01:45:24.960 I feel like the day has come is that I say is to sing 1177 01:45:25.720 --> 01:45:33.159 new songs, to be a day of life, to fight, to make 1178 01:45:33.479 --> 01:45:49.760 tell yourself, not to have my reasons and it is the dja to feel 1179 01:45:49.760 --> 01:45:53.560 that I can love well or give him pebe. Today can be a great 1180 01:45:53.760 --> 01:46:01.840 day. This heart was asleep, but you did it, but today I 1181 01:46:01.960 --> 01:46:08.479 ' m just looking ahead. I' m going to make a point and 1182 01:46:08.760 --> 01:46:16.680 apart for if I take resuscitation it' s the merchandise. I feel like 1183 01:46:16.800 --> 01:46:29.199 he' s here, I' d say it' s a day of 1184 01:46:29.560 --> 01:46:36.640 candour, new songs It' s a day of jealous anger. It' 1185 01:46:36.840 --> 01:46:46.720 s the way you feel that you can love. S bunga a day of 1186 01:46:46.880 --> 01:46:53.760 making good decisions, day of telling us if the truth, day of touching 1187 01:46:53.960 --> 01:46:59.800 our hearts, day of knowing how to forgive us and must return to the 1188 01:47:00.199 --> 01:47:05.439 source to stay in never day ever to tempt the strong way to distrust your 1189 01:47:05.560 --> 01:47:17.199 will. It' s the day of singing new things and actions. It 1190 01:47:17.439 --> 01:47:27.479 ' s life' s day you read it was mine not to have my 1191 01:47:27.479 --> 01:47:32.680 reasons. It' s the day I feel I can love. And this 1192 01:47:33.039 --> 01:47:42.640 day of not having my reasons is the day of feeling that cave more. 1193 01:47:44.119 --> 01:47:53.399 I' m glad you felt it was londonr to Valente. Feeling after mara 1194 01:47:57.600 --> 01:48:05.079 today is a great What you do walking down the bike lane like you don 1195 01:48:05.079 --> 01:48:09.079 ' t have wax. More and more people are encouraged to ride a bicycle 1196 01:48:09.159 --> 01:48:14.000 to move around the city. So, in many places where there was only 1197 01:48:14.079 --> 01:48:19.880 sidewalk before, now there is also bike lane all drivers, cyclists, bikers 1198 01:48:19.960 --> 01:48:26.159 and pedestrians share the street in the city if we respect each other. There 1199 01:48:26.319 --> 01:48:30.680 ' s room for everyone. Directorate- General for Traffic, Ministry of the 1200 01:48:30.079 --> 01:48:33.479 Interior, Government of Spain. Never leave me alone in the bathtub or places 1201 01:48:33.640 --> 01:48:38.159 with water. Don' t say they emit luis fingers and in an i 1202 01:48:38.159 --> 01:48:40.520 plug. Don' t tell me at the age of an open window. 1203 01:48:40.880 --> 01:48:46.319 I told him to use tonics or mycamintos, and you let me swallow small 1204 01:48:46.439 --> 01:48:50.319 specks of toys. If you neglect your blade, you can be dangerous to 1205 01:48:50.399 --> 01:48:54.359 your children. Don' t neglect, avoid accidents, so you want more 1206 01:48:54.439 --> 01:49:00.800 Ministry of Health and Consumer Affairs a Government of Spain. John be one hundred 1207 01:49:00.840 --> 01:49:03.920 and eighty euros a month in suffering. Alberto invests 200 euros in extortion, 1208 01:49:04.399 --> 01:49:10.359 Carlos invests 150 euros in kidnappings. Every time you pay you' re investing 1209 01:49:10.359 --> 01:49:15.760 in mobs, extortion quits. Help them out, don' t invest in 1210 01:49:15.840 --> 01:49:17.840 suffering against trafficking in women. The Government of Spain is aware of this. 1211 01:49:25.760 --> 01:49:45.680 You travel on the train of life hello. Friends. I' m Julio 1212 01:49:45.680 --> 01:49:53.520 Perez. You know that I am the director of the radio program the weekly 1213 01:49:54.039 --> 01:49:58.039 magaxin, the train of life, and it does nothing less than thirty- 1214 01:49:58.439 --> 01:50:03.720 two years that we travel through many human landscapes and many curiosities and things of 1215 01:50:03.760 --> 01:50:11.880 life, earthly life and heavenly life. I also have the joy of telling 1216 01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:15.239 you that I have published my book, a book that has to do with 1217 01:50:15.319 --> 01:50:24.640 the train of life. There are fifty selected articles written by me. There 1218 01:50:24.720 --> 01:50:30.800 are six seasons and in each season there is a section of eight reflections, 1219 01:50:31.560 --> 01:50:35.600 temporary reflections for an eternal destiny. These are the things I tell in this 1220 01:50:35.680 --> 01:50:46.840 book. They are perceptions, analysis, experiences, comments that are not curious 1221 01:50:47.680 --> 01:50:51.359 in those fifty reflections, in those six stations, until we arrive at the 1222 01:50:51.399 --> 01:50:56.319 station, a term that there is also a section, a very important block. 1223 01:50:57.880 --> 01:51:01.439 This book can already be found on Amazon on the editorial platform of Amazón. 1224 01:51:02.439 --> 01:51:05.840 Traveling on the train of life is called the book. It' s 1225 01:51:05.920 --> 01:51:12.479 the title of the book traveling on the train of life, Julio Pérez, 1226 01:51:13.319 --> 01:51:18.079 a server is the author, so there you can well know that the train 1227 01:51:18.880 --> 01:51:23.680 tells us about trips, trips through life. Life is a kind of living 1228 01:51:23.760 --> 01:51:29.439 parable, like a running train, that there are so many sensations and so 1229 01:51:29.560 --> 01:51:33.319 many experiences inside the train and what we are seeing inside and what we see 1230 01:51:33.399 --> 01:51:40.399 from the train out. Well, that' s where I suggest you get 1231 01:51:40.399 --> 01:51:42.119 access to this book, look at this book. I' ve done it 1232 01:51:42.159 --> 01:51:44.279 with a lot of love. I think there are things that are very affectionate, 1233 01:51:45.199 --> 01:51:50.199 very very intimate and others not so intimate, are very open, but 1234 01:51:50.439 --> 01:51:55.920 it is a book that I have done from the heart and with the heart 1235 01:51:56.439 --> 01:52:00.399 traveling on the train of life is the title a servant Julio Pérez on the 1236 01:52:00.479 --> 01:52:06.560 editorial platform of Amazon. You can find him. The book has a cost 1237 01:52:06.680 --> 01:52:13.520 of fifteen euros in about 180 pages and everything collected from that book is invested, 1238 01:52:14.800 --> 01:52:20.199 reinvested in the radio project of Onda Paz or Napu and in the train 1239 01:52:20.279 --> 01:52:26.880 of life. Of course it is part of the project so that this is 1240 01:52:27.159 --> 01:52:30.079 put on and kept going as long as it never stops So, I remind 1241 01:52:30.159 --> 01:52:34.239 you and I thank you in advance for buying my book on Amazon' s 1242 01:52:34.319 --> 01:52:41.479 platform. Traveling on the train of the life of a servant Julio Pérez, 1243 01:52:41.960 --> 01:53:00.439 Thank you always, the train of life, an exciting journey along the routes 1244 01:53:00.560 --> 01:53:15.680 of the heart, an unforgettable trip at the rhythm of trem as this is 1245 01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:24.000 the fifth n fifth studio album. Let' s say, no, let 1246 01:53:24.119 --> 01:53:33.640 ' s say we' ve done another simpler work, model type, but 1247 01:53:33.800 --> 01:53:38.439 this is let' s say in the fifth job with the name salt one 1248 01:53:38.439 --> 01:53:40.840 hundred and fifty thirty thirty years. Yeah, yeah, so we know each 1249 01:53:40.880 --> 01:53:47.920 other and we used to play together before, but they were more folk still 1250 01:53:48.039 --> 01:53:53.880 was dulcinea folk, but with the name is one hundred and fifty to thirty 1251 01:53:58.279 --> 01:54:02.520 years, middle job is look. It' s like when we write songs, 1252 01:54:02.840 --> 01:54:06.560 we do it together, too. No one has an idea, we 1253 01:54:06.640 --> 01:54:13.279 ' re working and when someone doesn' t agree with something, that' 1254 01:54:13.399 --> 01:54:15.159 s not because it was that. The signal has to be changed. For 1255 01:54:15.199 --> 01:54:18.000 that to be desired, it is that we all agree and this book, 1256 01:54:18.039 --> 01:54:28.159 as it has been said with a longer song. He started yes, he 1257 01:54:29.039 --> 01:54:35.159 started writing it, and at first I told him ufff clearly to put all 1258 01:54:35.319 --> 01:54:42.720 those complicated days back in writing, because it was hard. But we also 1259 01:54:42.920 --> 01:54:47.479 saw as we were writing, that it was good, that as we wrote 1260 01:54:47.560 --> 01:54:54.800 we didn' t cry so much. It was no other way to express, 1261 01:54:55.760 --> 01:55:00.520 to express sadness, or it was a more expression than then, as 1262 01:55:00.800 --> 01:55:14.479 it arises from living very surreal moments. Not when well, after the news 1263 01:55:14.560 --> 01:55:20.239 that our daughter had died, because in the middle of Shok, because he 1264 01:55:20.600 --> 01:55:30.720 is a jock not very strong, we see in one day making very hard 1265 01:55:31.640 --> 01:55:38.840 decisions to even as we were with such a strong blow, not making decisions 1266 01:55:38.920 --> 01:55:44.359 like, for example, what kind of coffin you are going to put your 1267 01:55:44.359 --> 01:55:46.159 daughter. No, if she' s going to be buried, if she 1268 01:55:46.159 --> 01:55:53.119 ' s going to be cremated, how she' s going to go she 1269 01:55:53.119 --> 01:55:54.399 wasn' t here too because she died in Barcelona. That' s what 1270 01:55:54.439 --> 01:55:59.760 we saw in Tarragona an hour to a hundred kilometers and those things that you 1271 01:56:00.079 --> 01:56:09.479 have that, that kind of surrealism that live at that moment, caused a 1272 01:56:09.680 --> 01:56:13.439 desire to translate it into a paper and then, well, I was going 1273 01:56:13.600 --> 01:56:15.159 to take my notes there for the truth that I didn' t sleep much. 1274 01:56:15.239 --> 01:56:19.000 I was very exposed to the normal. Not full, as it revealed 1275 01:56:19.119 --> 01:56:24.800 me and I felt like a need to describe, to point out the little 1276 01:56:24.880 --> 01:56:28.199 things, these things and taking little drawing. I like to draw also and 1277 01:56:29.199 --> 01:56:36.119 type notebook on board, a notebook so to take note and good, but 1278 01:56:36.119 --> 01:56:42.079 of course, being in the tanatorium, it is nice to make a little 1279 01:56:42.520 --> 01:56:45.039 spoiler of the book worth being in the tanatorium. The second day, because 1280 01:56:45.680 --> 01:56:51.000 some relatives, from Rosa' s family, come to the tanatorio and when 1281 01:56:51.239 --> 01:56:58.920 they got there, of course, the first thing they said was that' 1282 01:56:59.000 --> 01:57:05.039 s fucking Catalan shit, that' s a fucking way and we were at 1283 01:57:05.119 --> 01:57:10.439 a clear moment you' re like that says well, you don' t. 1284 01:57:10.479 --> 01:57:14.760 Case is normal. People express themselves and how to say oyster this is 1285 01:57:14.800 --> 01:57:17.159 like saying, this is not fair, it is not fair. And, 1286 01:57:17.439 --> 01:57:21.960 well, we received him, we had some time with them. But that 1287 01:57:23.319 --> 01:57:27.920 night, after having fired Ana' s funeral, our daughter' s, 1288 01:57:28.159 --> 01:57:31.640 from the funeral ceremony, that same night, because I had a dream dream 1289 01:57:32.720 --> 01:57:38.560 that I dreamt that we were at some kind of congress, as it seemed 1290 01:57:38.560 --> 01:57:44.840 to be what we' re here today with bookstores with people who put their 1291 01:57:45.279 --> 01:57:48.720 self- help books, very interesting books. And then we dreamt that we 1292 01:57:48.760 --> 01:57:54.479 had written a book and that book was in a corner. There, no 1293 01:57:54.560 --> 01:57:57.880 one listened to him. It was on a table, a black trap, 1294 01:57:59.159 --> 01:58:04.000 nobody sold it. It was like a little, like abandoned okay and there 1295 01:58:04.000 --> 01:58:06.279 wasn' t a price either. You could get there and in a hole 1296 01:58:06.319 --> 01:58:14.399 of these piggy mud, you would put the coin you wanted. And that 1297 01:58:15.039 --> 01:58:17.279 in the dream. Then, in the dream, I approached to see the 1298 01:58:17.319 --> 01:58:25.479 book. And the book was called a fucking piece of shit with the current 1299 01:58:25.479 --> 01:58:29.239 cover. In other words, the book has the cover quite similar to the 1300 01:58:29.680 --> 01:58:33.479 men are our experiences, as Miguel said at the time, especially in the 1301 01:58:34.279 --> 01:58:43.239 first part of the duel, that first Shok. Then also the mourning for 1302 01:58:43.479 --> 01:58:50.039 our son, little Yuan, who died about ten years ago. And then 1303 01:58:50.359 --> 01:58:57.520 these two duels. Well explained this first stage, in what you ask yourself 1304 01:58:57.600 --> 01:59:03.199 so many questions, in what it means to have faith does not remove the 1305 01:59:03.319 --> 01:59:10.880 pain nor do you have to pass it the same. But it makes a 1306 01:59:10.880 --> 01:59:15.000 difference. And so the book talks about this, about how we have experienced 1307 01:59:15.640 --> 01:59:23.720 this process. Of course we think at the same time that like us, 1308 01:59:23.920 --> 01:59:29.479 we explain how we have lived it and think that, within what fits, 1309 01:59:29.800 --> 01:59:32.079 it has been so far. Well, elaborate, because, because we can 1310 01:59:32.159 --> 01:59:38.880 move on, we can enjoy life, we can still have illusions to live, 1311 01:59:39.600 --> 01:59:46.359 because maybe it has some tool or some key for people who may also 1312 01:59:47.159 --> 02:00:03.560 go through similar or good duels, we think it can give some good tool 1313 02:00:03.560 --> 02:00:08.920 to us. It has served us much to bear in mind first not to 1314 02:00:09.000 --> 02:00:15.000 stay at that moment, not because it is easy to stay at that moment 1315 02:00:15.079 --> 02:00:15.119 and not to move forward, which is not bad. It' s normal 1316 02:00:15.199 --> 02:00:18.680 for the mind to go to that moment, not because the mind, like 1317 02:00:18.720 --> 02:00:21.840 it' s always looking for a culprit. No, and that has helped 1318 02:00:21.920 --> 02:00:27.000 us to move forward. Not too. One thing we have taken into account 1319 02:00:27.079 --> 02:00:32.680 is having a lot of patience between us and with ourselves, patience why, 1320 02:00:32.720 --> 02:00:36.640 because the mind has suffered a very strong blow and it is normal that things 1321 02:00:36.720 --> 02:00:41.560 happen to you, that you forget, things that are good, that you 1322 02:00:41.560 --> 02:00:45.680 are discouraged, that you are sad, that you cry you can cry you 1323 02:00:45.680 --> 02:00:47.520 can laugh the grief. It' s a process to go through and it 1324 02:00:47.560 --> 02:00:51.760 ' s very respectable in every person. Each person can be a different duration. 1325 02:00:53.920 --> 02:00:57.000 And another thing that has served us, because we have decided to be 1326 02:00:57.039 --> 02:01:02.520 together, not to be very close with each other and with friends, friends 1327 02:01:02.880 --> 02:01:06.920 who can really understand you, friends where you don' t have to put 1328 02:01:08.119 --> 02:01:11.760 on a mask, who can be you as you are and who understands you 1329 02:01:11.760 --> 02:01:15.000 and who are there. And maybe you' re going through a duel or 1330 02:01:15.319 --> 02:01:18.279 a person and maybe she doesn' t have a partner, you' re 1331 02:01:19.159 --> 02:01:24.319 not alone or alone, but find yourself a friend, find yourself a friend, 1332 02:01:25.359 --> 02:01:28.079 make up for people who love you and don' t sink, don 1333 02:01:28.079 --> 02:01:30.520 ' t just stay in your sadness. The sad one is deep, but 1334 02:01:30.800 --> 02:01:34.199 salt and other than good, which I think is the main one that has 1335 02:01:34.239 --> 02:01:39.760 helped us and is helping us in the process of being here today. It 1336 02:01:39.840 --> 02:01:45.479 is faith to have no faith, to have hope. We have hope in 1337 02:01:45.560 --> 02:01:49.800 what we have hope, that one day we will see our children again and 1338 02:01:49.800 --> 02:01:54.880 embrace them. And that gives us a lot of encouragement to be able to 1339 02:01:54.880 --> 02:02:01.159 wake up one more day and with some illusion, to continue dreaming, to 1340 02:02:01.159 --> 02:02:05.199 continue working, to continue loving us, to continue taking care of our son, 1341 02:02:06.880 --> 02:02:08.680 of Miquel, another son that I have been seventeen years old, and 1342 02:02:08.680 --> 02:02:14.159 to have hope. And that' s why we value him having been able 1343 02:02:14.159 --> 02:02:19.239 to believe, not, as I said pink believe, having faith doesn' 1344 02:02:19.359 --> 02:02:21.439 t take away the pain, because pain is pain and grief hurts. It 1345 02:02:21.560 --> 02:02:30.000 ' s pain, but it helps you overcome it and know that one day 1346 02:02:30.000 --> 02:02:33.199 that' s going to happen that pain, one day in that desert we 1347 02:02:33.199 --> 02:02:41.960 crossed. You' ll find a sign that puts the end of the desert 1348 02:02:41.960 --> 02:02:45.199 and our motive is Jesus. We do not believe in Jesus and Jesus because 1349 02:02:45.319 --> 02:02:49.479 we want him to overcome death. No, and we want him to be 1350 02:02:49.479 --> 02:02:56.359 resurrected. And by that fact, we know who our children are with. 1351 02:02:56.560 --> 02:03:00.000 That' s the key. We don' t see them hurt us, 1352 02:03:00.279 --> 02:03:04.720 not because we love them, but we know who they are with and we 1353 02:03:04.720 --> 02:03:08.319 know they' re okay. We know they have more peace than we do. 1354 02:03:08.399 --> 02:03:15.560 No. And the last thing I' d like to say is that 1355 02:03:15.600 --> 02:03:18.600 the time of mourning can be lived in another way. It' s not 1356 02:03:18.680 --> 02:03:25.479 easy for you to feel like a failed person, but you can also live 1357 02:03:25.600 --> 02:03:28.199 it as something to look for the pretty part, no, and the pretty 1358 02:03:28.199 --> 02:03:30.760 part can. If there can be a Hunite part within the duel, it 1359 02:03:31.079 --> 02:03:40.800 is that pain you suffer there is pain because you love and that is ours 1360 02:03:41.640 --> 02:03:47.359 that I can say that until there today has helped us. The truth is 1361 02:03:47.479 --> 02:03:55.760 that the desire to live, that is, we haven' t lost them 1362 02:03:55.880 --> 02:04:00.720 at all times. We said this is awesome, not because in the first 1363 02:04:00.920 --> 02:04:09.000 few days there is like a force that stretches you down, that almost prevents 1364 02:04:09.079 --> 02:04:13.199 you from getting out of bed. It' s not like a force stretching 1365 02:04:14.159 --> 02:04:16.359 you like it' s falling into a well. But the truth is that 1366 02:04:16.439 --> 02:04:23.720 we got up and almost from the beginning, because we wanted to move forward, 1367 02:04:24.760 --> 02:04:28.199 to live, to pull forward. But you do. I can say 1368 02:04:29.000 --> 02:04:34.720 that just last week here, here, in Congress, in the Globe, 1369 02:04:35.119 --> 02:04:41.760 well, God gave us some very special gifts very nice, that well, 1370 02:04:43.319 --> 02:04:51.960 it was several things, it was something that one person felt gave us a 1371 02:04:53.000 --> 02:04:58.199 lot of peace, they were very nice gifts and I said look. I 1372 02:04:58.359 --> 02:05:03.079 feel like we' ve gone through another stage, that we kind of noticed, 1373 02:05:03.279 --> 02:05:09.119 comfort, but the truth is that from almost the first few days, 1374 02:05:10.079 --> 02:05:13.760 the truth is, we had to ask him for strength goodbye. We explained 1375 02:05:13.800 --> 02:05:18.119 that in the book, but we noticed that he gave them to us, 1376 02:05:18.800 --> 02:05:23.199 that in the morning we had the need to go, to walk, to 1377 02:05:23.840 --> 02:05:30.039 go, to say we don' t understand anything God, we need you 1378 02:05:30.159 --> 02:05:32.239 to help us to live, to comfort us, to give us peace, 1379 02:05:34.079 --> 02:05:40.600 to help us to sleep, and we felt as if we were good, 1380 02:05:41.600 --> 02:05:43.399 because in the end look, because we are quite good. There are not 1381 02:05:43.520 --> 02:05:47.960 always times, but the truth is that from the first moment we have noticed 1382 02:05:47.960 --> 02:05:54.680 in fact, they had passed. We said it now, a year ago 1383 02:05:54.800 --> 02:06:01.560 we came to Congress and it had been almost three weeks and we came because 1384 02:06:01.640 --> 02:06:04.680 we wanted to come. It' s just that we said we want to 1385 02:06:06.720 --> 02:06:14.119 go, we want to sing. Well, that hasn' t stopped. 1386 02:06:14.720 --> 02:06:18.319 No, and we know that it is a miracle and that normally, as 1387 02:06:18.439 --> 02:06:23.600 Miguel said, especially in the case of parents, not because losing a child 1388 02:06:24.359 --> 02:06:31.359 is very hard. And in the case of parents, we know a lot 1389 02:06:31.439 --> 02:06:35.600 of people who have stayed as a stop at that moment and their life has 1390 02:06:35.640 --> 02:06:42.920 not progressed and they stay that as dead in life. But the truth is, 1391 02:06:43.720 --> 02:06:46.560 we were saying to see this. The truth is, what we' 1392 02:06:46.680 --> 02:06:51.800 re living is a miracle, so look. We don' t know why 1393 02:06:51.880 --> 02:06:56.520 our daughter' s gone. But what we are living is that it is 1394 02:06:56.640 --> 02:07:00.159 good that we want to live and keep moving forward, to keep improving, 1395 02:07:00.760 --> 02:07:08.199 from Mira, because with the book we said oysters. If the book can 1396 02:07:08.359 --> 02:07:17.319 help someone, perhaps there is already a small purpose. We see one for 1397 02:07:17.479 --> 02:07:26.039 what. We' ve been looking for a reason why this desperate and so 1398 02:07:26.600 --> 02:07:30.199 desperate situation you' re saying this I can' t find the reason anywhere. 1399 02:07:35.800 --> 02:07:40.319 This has been our first year, our first anniversary and perhaps not the 1400 02:07:40.399 --> 02:07:45.319 hardest. Maybe Christmas parties have been tougher, because it' s been a 1401 02:07:45.399 --> 02:07:51.479 party where it' s the first parties without her. It has also coincided 1402 02:07:51.560 --> 02:07:57.640 with my father' s death almost two months ago, almost three hours ago, 1403 02:07:58.119 --> 02:08:03.319 and well, a very beloved person has been needed. But there, 1404 02:08:03.560 --> 02:08:07.039 once again, we have had to embrace hope and although there have been moments 1405 02:08:07.279 --> 02:08:13.279 of sadness, but we have overcome them. We' ve been there, 1406 02:08:13.520 --> 02:08:15.239 we' ve been there, we' ve been there, we' ve 1407 02:08:15.239 --> 02:08:15.239 been there, we' ve been there, we' ve been there, 1408 02:08:15.239 --> 02:08:15.239 we' ve been there, we' ve been there, we' ve 1409 02:08:15.239 --> 02:08:15.239 been there, we' ve been there, we' ve been there, 1410 02:08:15.239 --> 02:08:15.239 we' ve been there, we' ve been there, we' ve 1411 02:08:15.239 --> 02:08:15.239 been there, we' ve been there, we' ve been there, 1412 02:08:15.239 --> 02:08:16.720 we' ve been there. It is not a taboo subject for us. 1413 02:08:16.840 --> 02:08:20.159 We always talked about it the way we were. It is very good to 1414 02:08:20.199 --> 02:08:24.279 express how you are, not either sad or cheerful. We laugh, we 1415 02:08:24.600 --> 02:08:28.399 cry whatever it takes. No, but on the day of her birthday, 1416 02:08:28.720 --> 02:08:33.560 well, of her anniversity, which was gone, it was not a particularly 1417 02:08:33.640 --> 02:08:37.199 sad day, but rather of reflection, Not to say, it has been 1418 02:08:37.279 --> 02:08:43.359 a year as we are and we came to the reflection that we were not 1419 02:08:43.399 --> 02:08:48.760 worse than when she was gone, we had advanced, not, of course, 1420 02:08:48.920 --> 02:08:52.760 we still missed her. We name her every day We remember her very 1421 02:08:52.760 --> 02:08:58.640 much everywhere. Not to joan our little son too, but when you have 1422 02:08:58.680 --> 02:09:03.000 hope, everything changes. There' s no pain, but it' s 1423 02:09:03.000 --> 02:09:05.279 a pain with hope. And you know that every day that goes by is 1424 02:09:05.359 --> 02:09:15.880 one more day, but it' s one less day, because that was 1425 02:09:16.000 --> 02:09:20.159 a very intentional thing to say. We are not going to fall into guilt, 1426 02:09:20.680 --> 02:09:26.399 although it is inevitable at first, especially in the case of our daughter 1427 02:09:26.680 --> 02:09:33.960 who was on top of it, for a suicide is not and it is 1428 02:09:35.880 --> 02:09:39.000 inevitable that guilt comes, but we said we cannot fall into this. No, 1429 02:09:39.520 --> 02:09:45.319 I don' t. Neither have we made mistakes as parents, but 1430 02:09:45.439 --> 02:09:50.079 we have not been bad parents. Then we have loved our children, we 1431 02:09:50.199 --> 02:10:01.199 have cared for them, they have not been mistreated and then we cannot face 1432 02:10:01.199 --> 02:10:07.359 guilt. Then it was very intentional to say no. We are not going 1433 02:10:07.680 --> 02:10:13.600 to command our feelings not to fall to them that, even though we sometimes 1434 02:10:13.600 --> 02:10:18.399 feel this, we command our minds not to, that we cannot and evidently 1435 02:10:18.479 --> 02:10:22.319 even less blame each other. That wouldn' t be a faga by now 1436 02:10:22.319 --> 02:10:28.119 and let' s go. Yes, at first, there was a lot 1437 02:10:28.119 --> 02:10:33.960 of anger, but it was the first days against her, against us, 1438 02:10:33.960 --> 02:10:39.640 against everything. There' s not much anger, but it' s that 1439 02:10:39.760 --> 02:10:46.880 ordering your mind certain things, not telling your mind enough for Yuan. Maybe 1440 02:10:46.880 --> 02:10:52.520 it was easier, because it had been an accident. Then maybe it was 1441 02:10:52.600 --> 02:10:58.680 easier. And I remember she had a moment that we told our mind to 1442 02:10:58.840 --> 02:11:05.399 stop eating your coconut. That' s how the phrase for being at home 1443 02:11:05.560 --> 02:11:11.000 was enough to eat the coconut. He' s not gone. God has 1444 02:11:11.039 --> 02:11:18.159 control of lives, because we believe so. Then that' s enough. 1445 02:11:18.439 --> 02:11:26.439 Now perhaps this process has been more difficult, it has been a little more 1446 02:11:26.439 --> 02:11:31.560 complicated. But we' ve also had to tell our mind no, there 1447 02:11:31.600 --> 02:11:35.880 ' s no culprit and it' s true. We have had to forgive 1448 02:11:35.920 --> 02:11:41.279 ourselves, forgive her, forgive people who would have hurt her at some point, 1449 02:11:41.680 --> 02:11:48.479 for forgiveness is a good weapon. But yes, but that was very 1450 02:11:48.840 --> 02:11:54.079 intentional to say. We' re not going to fall into that well. 1451 02:11:54.199 --> 02:12:01.239 Without background, Yes, and the truth that is what we noticed from the 1452 02:12:01.279 --> 02:12:07.279 beginning, that music, because in a certain way it did us how it 1453 02:12:07.279 --> 02:12:11.000 healed us, not to play, not to express, to sing. In 1454 02:12:11.079 --> 02:12:15.199 fact, we have not stopped doing so. We continue to do so and 1455 02:12:18.680 --> 02:12:24.960 because we are here that day he was going to master himself in a clear 1456 02:12:24.960 --> 02:12:26.359 study, obviously, he stopped. Not the group, we stopped everything, 1457 02:12:26.000 --> 02:12:30.920 but it was very curious. No and above all, the title does not 1458 02:12:30.920 --> 02:12:35.119 attract much attention, because it was a title that of a song, that 1459 02:12:35.199 --> 02:12:39.600 single of this album, which is precisely a song had been composed a year 1460 02:12:41.399 --> 02:12:43.880 earlier than we had lived with our daughter, and we call attention because it 1461 02:12:45.079 --> 02:12:50.079 is as if it were for now. Not because it' s called hidden 1462 02:12:50.199 --> 02:12:54.640 reasons and it speaks in the song. In addition, we asked for the 1463 02:12:54.720 --> 02:12:58.720 collaboration of Keila de Papel macheque who is there in that song. The truth 1464 02:12:58.720 --> 02:13:00.359 is, it' s lookin' great, it' s lookin' pretty. 1465 02:13:00.520 --> 02:13:03.720 Listen nice and talk about this desert song we cross, not that sometimes 1466 02:13:05.600 --> 02:13:09.840 we don' t understand why not, how many things happen to us. 1467 02:13:09.000 --> 02:13:11.520 We don' t know why not. We don' t control everything, 1468 02:13:13.039 --> 02:13:18.680 not a little bit, but it says that once you' ve passed it, 1469 02:13:18.520 --> 02:13:24.000 not if you' ve passed it with hope, you' ve spent 1470 02:13:24.000 --> 02:13:26.680 it with the good attitude, not to say, although I don' t 1471 02:13:26.680 --> 02:13:31.079 understand anything, but well the desert has to be crossed, because then you 1472 02:13:31.079 --> 02:13:31.560 find the reason to be hidden. That' s what this song talks about. 1473 02:13:31.640 --> 02:13:35.920 We are very struck by the fact that there was also a song on 1474 02:13:37.000 --> 02:13:39.479 that record entitled" We are not defeated". And it was a bit 1475 02:13:39.560 --> 02:13:46.000 composed of the pandemic issue. We' re not beat, come on, 1476 02:13:46.399 --> 02:13:48.680 we' re moving on. I will resist and so on, but what 1477 02:13:48.840 --> 02:13:50.960 we didn' t imagine that song was going to play a very important role 1478 02:13:52.039 --> 02:13:56.880 right now for us. We' re not beaten, we' re beaten, 1479 02:13:56.239 --> 02:13:58.760 we' re dusted, we' re knocked down. Rife of this 1480 02:14:00.159 --> 02:14:03.479 destroyed. Here' s bo and that' s why that record well, 1481 02:14:03.840 --> 02:14:11.000 because for us we have I don' t know, it has a lot 1482 02:14:11.000 --> 02:14:15.279 of value also to be able to finish it. Now all of us in 1483 02:14:15.520 --> 02:14:43.199 certain cos were able to always find reasons without fresh lived. It' s 1484 02:14:43.720 --> 02:14:52.079 a different day. We' ve gone back to it, we forgot the 1485 02:14:54.600 --> 02:15:01.600 iris, but I know it was tra good, because I don' t 1486 02:15:01.600 --> 02:15:09.840 know. We know honestly we don' t know in fact, I think 1487 02:15:09.840 --> 02:15:11.920 that' s good. For us. Yeah, we' ve never written 1488 02:15:11.920 --> 02:15:13.800 a book before. The truth never crossed my mind to write a book. 1489 02:15:16.520 --> 02:15:18.800 We don' t know and we don' t rule it out either. 1490 02:15:18.560 --> 02:15:24.039 I think so, well, if we feel the desire for the experience we 1491 02:15:24.039 --> 02:15:28.439 are living and there is a good second, I think you have to make 1492 02:15:28.560 --> 02:15:35.560 that wish to translate it. We wouldn' t do it because we' 1493 02:15:35.640 --> 02:15:37.680 re going to make another book, to do it. Otherwise, I think 1494 02:15:37.720 --> 02:15:43.039 we should be sorry. Really. We have nothing else to say about this 1495 02:15:43.119 --> 02:15:50.439 issue or another. No. I hope, well, it' s maybe 1496 02:15:50.439 --> 02:16:00.359 some music day or what we' re doing I don' t know anymore, 1497 02:16:11.439 --> 02:16:13.319 it' s really good. Well, well, yeah, yeah, 1498 02:16:13.520 --> 02:16:16.720 he' s in his duel, too, but he' s doing fine. 1499 02:16:18.920 --> 02:16:22.680 We talked a lot in our house. It is not a taboo issue 1500 02:16:22.680 --> 02:16:26.159 that we are living through. And even though he knows he' s left 1501 02:16:26.279 --> 02:16:30.159 alone because he had two brothers, they' re gone. But there he 1502 02:16:30.239 --> 02:16:33.159 has a very good attitude and he is facing everything with great courage, with 1503 02:16:33.239 --> 02:16:39.079 studies, with sport, the truth that he is giving a very, very 1504 02:16:39.079 --> 02:16:43.920 beautiful size, no and has his moments also of sadness, as everyone does 1505 02:16:43.000 --> 02:16:50.200 not, but he does not hide it neither is not beautiful. Yes, 1506 02:16:50.319 --> 02:16:56.639 before I wanted to say that sadness is also like a tribute, nothing, 1507 02:16:56.479 --> 02:17:03.360 then, that is, when we are sad, we are sad and well, 1508 02:17:03.600 --> 02:17:09.680 it is a clear tribute, we miss it, but we honor it 1509 02:17:09.799 --> 02:17:13.280 no, and the fact of sinking into misery. I don' t think 1510 02:17:13.360 --> 02:17:18.440 I' d honor her. You don' t honor those who have gone 1511 02:17:18.440 --> 02:17:24.319 down. But yes, be sad and pass that sadness, not because somehow 1512 02:17:24.399 --> 02:17:33.200 it' s clear we' re sad. We are therefore at the moment 1513 02:17:33.959 --> 02:17:39.600 in Amazon, it is self published and we hope that soon, because we 1514 02:17:39.600 --> 02:17:43.520 are working. Well, we just signed with an editorial that also works with 1515 02:17:45.680 --> 02:17:52.680 self- published books, called the Red Circle, and in about two months 1516 02:17:52.719 --> 02:17:56.040 we' ll be able to see it through the stores. Yeah, it 1517 02:17:56.120 --> 02:18:03.000 ' s going to distribute bookstores, good bookstores, so, putting the title 1518 02:18:03.120 --> 02:18:11.559 that subtitles, living the duel with hope, you can find good. Anne 1519 02:18:11.799 --> 02:18:22.760 were our twenty- two- year- old daughter, very talented, very 1520 02:18:22.239 --> 02:18:30.479 bright, extremely sensitive and good. There a great singer outnumbered us and we 1521 02:18:31.479 --> 02:18:39.159 know that maybe he' ll be in the choir there, heavenly with the 1522 02:18:39.159 --> 02:18:45.200 Angels. We decide sometimes she' ll be there and we' ll see 1523 02:18:45.200 --> 02:18:50.799 her again. So she had a big smile and we want to enjoy her 1524 02:18:50.319 --> 02:19:18.959 smile again. Thank you very much, thank you you travel on the train 1525 02:19:18.959 --> 02:19:39.719 of life. Evangelical churches are a place of peace and friendship. You can 1526 02:19:39.959 --> 02:19:45.879 freely attend the nearest evangelical church in your neighborhood or your population. You' 1527 02:19:46.079 --> 02:19:46.719 ll be very welcome.