Are you friends? Are they? Are you friends? Points are s s
are hello how about what? Welcome. I' m Luis Miguel Salgado.
This is a good question. I' m very happy today to be able
to greet you. Thanks for connecting, thanks for sharing. I am very
happy because, obviously, many of my guests have had direct contact with you
and for me it is a pleasure in privilege today to introduce you to an
exceptional woman, a woman who does a wonderful job, because she helps us
a lot to take care of us when suddenly we are getting sick, we
are ill, we are like this. He has a true vocation of service
and a vocation of love for others and believe me, believe me. It
really seems like something like ah very easy, but it' s not like
that. On the contrary, you must have a lot of patience, a
lot of care, a lot of empathy and to me it is truly a
bozo to receive Elisabeth Ribas today and how you are good how it is,
very well, a lot of grace for that presentation. I have done a
pleasure to be able to cast here I am very happy to be able to
greet you welcome. Elisabet Rivas is an auxiliary care technician, nursing technician,
pharmacy technician and is currently studying ol psychology That is why I tell you that
it is a very special vocation. Let' s talk to her about very
interesting things and if it' s okay with them, as I always say,
it' s okay with them, start it. And what a pleasure
he hears, because it seems a little simple this part of nursing auxiliary care
seems something like ay, not anyone can do it, but the truth is
that not everyone can do it. You have to study, you have to
prepare, but apart, you have to have certain gifts, not true.
I call it affective abilities. Not that, as you have said well before,
a good healthcare professional has to have empathy, dissertivity, a lot of
communication and with how patient we have to take care of and hear tell us.
Please, this is the first question I ask everyone, all my guests,
behind what you are studying, behind what you dedicate, who is Elizabeth
Tribas, because Elisabeth alive, apart from being a healthcare professional, is also
mother of two children, Aittoor, fourteen years old and soul of my little
eight- year- old soul, and my profession, because, as you
well said, it is my vocation. I am at the service of others
and always helping. As I always say with this which is the most important
thing, helping with the heart notice, that the role of mother, combined
with the role of helping others, must be particularly special, because at home
you have to continue to play that role because you call it care, care,
education. But when you' re also with people who need help,
you also have to educate us. Right. I mean, not everything is
to daddy, kisses and hugs, but there are also well- defined schedules
for medicine and there is no choice of no. Today I don' t
want to wait there is a discipline and you have to take it not how
you handle that duality. It' s not difficult for me, since I
like what I studied is my vocation and so on, but I do shake
it a lot, especially the balls. Not when I' ve ever had
more than another time than as you say re- educating them because they compare
it to my children. No, but at another stage, logically and if
it touches you many times I also exhered in a certain way as an educator
in the field of health, when they do not want to take the medication,
for example, not that I have to be a bit even psychologist.
In that sense. Not if you find some story that' s happened to
you. Funny, I think you have a lot not, but for example,
I don' t know that suddenly you go to room fourteen and you
accidentally got into the twenty- eight. No or that of those funny things
that suddenly you enter with all care and you stumble if you drop anything that
you remember so, as a nursing technician I don' t have an anecdote
in order to remember, but as a pharmacy technician we had a great time.
He brought us a lot with the clients and I remember once a lady
not to laugh and in fact we commented and so on, because I still
have a relationship with my partner, because it creates such a beautiful environment in
the sector and the sanitary guild that that is one of the things that I
have always taken and the lady to ask for an analgesic that I was taking
back then and did not remember the name. So she said" Girl Give
me the medication, that one for the knee that' s Galope? Al
Galope? Al Galope? I used to say Valga Lope, Galope. I
looked at my partner and said Laura, the Galope, the Galope? What
medicine you' re asking me for. The lady says ay Eli knows she
' s asking you for Artrotec. The medicine was called the trotec and she
of course, she does not know I like you exactly, because I want
that part of helping, too, to feel. I imagine that very proud
when you go out and see that person who was sick and that suddenly you
find her on the street and say," Oh, you' re okay
with medicine like that, but also for the care we give you. No,
and I imagine that' s a very nice feeling of pride. Not
him and I get excited, and all because for me, especially for the
elderly I believe and think that we are his feet and his hands you see
that they are so weak or that they are Mercedes, the caregivers, not
the nursing technicians. And when you help him, because they have a fall
and with passive gymnastics and a lot of willpower, that grandfather or that grandmother
does not thanks to your health work, start walking again or start eating because
you encourage him or incite him in a certain way look. There is no
greater satisfaction. That' s not paid for by a payroll and you'
re recognized for your work. That is not how we Spaniards and Andalusians say
here, because I am Andalusian. It' s or is not paid for
with anything. That' s not paid for anything. I have to tell
you something to me, the Spanish people, all Spanish and Spanish people,
how I like them. I think it' s a truly wonderful Spanish people.
It' s an amazing country, full of culture, just like Mexico,
and well, it' s wonderful. If I did it again,
believe me I' d say it' s okay God, but let me
be Spanish, not because the truth I feel they' re always happy It
' s a well- kept people, well- worked, well- fought
and very cheerful, very cheerful. And I love that. In fact,
Andalusia is one of those in the cities not that there is much, much
joy, much party. Then I love it. Hey. I want to
ask you something now. When you have to take care of young people or
adults or older adults and tell me a little while ago, I become her
as her psychologist, what is the greatest recidivism that tell you, for example,
young people or adults. There' s some particular issue. I don
' t know that they feel lonely, that they feel sad, that they
feel depressed. There' s something in particular you say, kids, if
it looks like all the young people are cut with the same scissors. Tell
us, please, because in the area of the elderly, because it is
usually with the sector of the population that with those with whom I have mostly
had more experience, they always agree that they feel very lonely, they do
not feel understood by relatives or there is not that feeling or that feeling of
loneliness. In that sense, they do all agree, hear, and what
causes that to you. How you try to combine your effort, because I
imagine you must also have a strong heart. No. I couldn' t
hear that because I got a little heart like you. Sometimes I have to
confess that it' s very difficult because I' m a very sensitive girl.
I had to do my internships in a residence and in fact one of
my favorite grandmothers died that thanks to me started to eat and they told me
at the residence, Elizabeth no nursing technician, got me to eat even when
you came is when she has done a power not to eat and you have
to have a little heart in that hardened sense. I didn' t make
it today, but I do have a bit of a bad time, because
I say I always visualize it as if it was someone in my family,
not like a grandfather, a close person, because being good health care has
to have that closeness, that deal. But sometimes it strikes you bad past
because when you internalize them so much you take it so personally that, honestly,
sometimes when they die and so on, I take my days like this
a little more matrix, because they are, as I say, gaps of
the sector and the healthcare trade. I can' t imagine that you and
your colleagues, as sanitary and the people around you, not just any other
profession, a lawyer, an accountant, a financial one, because they have
to think, because they are the people who take care of us. But
you really make her a psychologist, as we said earlier, you take care
of them, you feed them, you change them. There' s at
some point you' re not commenting on this part, that you make them
as your family. There is some moment when you, as a health worker,
feel undervalued, unrecognized society in general. I' m not talking about
Spanish society. I speak it because in Mexico it happens, in Latin America
it happens. Your efforts and your work are little recognized. Yeah, yeah,
I totally agree. Thank God, it doesn' t spread out or
it' s silk to leave. Currently there is less, but there was
a time when the compañeras were outraged. In fact, we held an assembly,
with workers' committees and so on, to be recognized for our work.
And it' s a kind of vulgar pressure. But we' ve
had to endure. They' re ass wipers. We' re just not
a cleaner, it' s a job as high as any other and as
you well say, we' re psychologists, nurses' assistants, we'
re the feet and hands of those people who need our service so much.
And it' s a sad reality because sometimes they don' t value each
other, not as properly as they should be as sanitary, because after all,
we' re a few more handymen, no or a neso more than
the health world is. Actually the nurses that I' m going to study
in nursing, I' m going to enroll in brief laboratory technicians and then
I' m going to study at the University of Nursing, because it'
s my passion. But I even had fellow nurses in my practice and demmel
and we said it. Without you we don' t work in the best
way either, without that, there are times when we are not valued.
Let me ask you something, because I also think it' s an interesting
topic for us to get a little bit of consciousness. You all of a
sudden accompany more in moments of vulnerability. When you' re sick, when
you feel bad physically, you also feel bad emotionally, psychologically, that'
s not a whole, and in one other way, it' s when
a person feels vulnerable and starts talking very sensitive things. It didn' t
touch you that all of a sudden the relatives arrive and you say there comes
the daughter, so the sick man told you, the grandfather told you.
No, and I' m telling you, my daughter assaults me, she
says to me, and suddenly the daughter comes to greet him well, very
hypocritical. I can' t imagine that you too have to do it,
as well as alas, how it is not good, Yes, the issue
of family members, especially when you work in residences and so on, because
the word I would use is neutrality, because in this sense you can'
t do much different, that there is abuse and so on. There we
are already talking about larger cloths, not as we say here, but in
that sense we try to be very professional and be a little neutral. Okay,
hey, and then you were telling us what' s next, what
' s next for you, you' re going to study, then you
' re going to keep getting ready. This is already a vocation your children
that also first, that follows for You, and then your children also,
because I imagine that they see it, listen to it and suddenly say Mommy,
but what do you have, no, because today a lord got worse
and I imagine that they too are as with that desire to serve people.
No, in fact, I' m still in continuing training. I finished
my studies and I' m still training. However, yesterday I examined myself
from a module of engineering in the hospital environment and nutritional coaching and so on,
because in the world of medicine and sanitation we never finished learning. We
' re always recycling, making a picture and so on. And what follows
for me, Luis mi, is, therefore, to register shortly, in
September I will do two years of training of technician, of laboratory that we
are in charge of analyzing all the human samples, including to detect diseases,
cancer, pathologies, digestive, etcetera. Because I am passionate and then,
then, get into college and curate my desire. I already visualize myself and
consider myself a nurse and my eldest son author, who is fourteen years old,
because he would also like to be a biologist and Alma, who is
the little eight- year- old. As she sees me in the service
of others, she sees me studying and sees that I have finished my studies
and she loves it. She says mom, I want to be a nurse
like you. So they' ve internalized it a little bit. Don'
t send your greetings from Mexico to Itúr. How nice not Alma also what
a nice name I greet the many And well, he has an example in
insumami truly important. Now I want to ask you. Let' s ask
you a few questions. They' re bringing us a warrant. There are
no good or bad answers. Then let' s start playing. What would
happen? Very well if there were elections in Spain and it turns out that
the next President of Spain is Elizabeth rivas ok and you are the next President.
The moment you take office, the moment you get your presidential band,
you' re already the president. What would you do, three decrees you
would do for your country, what would you change, what would you take
away, what would you say to see. Gentlemen, from this moment on,
I say that this is going to be done in Spain. Tell us,
then, first of all, as a good health care would give better
quality and health service, it would build much more outpatient hospitals. Then,
another thing I would love to do, because I want to do a volunteer,
with which I would set up a lot of food banks and a lot
of social eaters, because we tend to forget people who are going through a
situation that is not very pleasant in their life and, above all, as
good sanitary. They also provide much support and set up many home help companies
for what they need most. That would be, that would be my candidacy,
not so to speak incredible now he and tell us, please, what
do you think is needed in school call yourself, in elementary school or in
high school or in professional. You would remove some matter from the education system,
what debut to matter you would put tell us look, for I would
perhaps remove a certain voter, because I live it, for example, with
Aitor, who is my oldest, that the children are super unmotivated with some
electives. And I, who am a defender, have nothing to do with
the issue of mentality, conscience, emotional management. I' ve always said
that. The subject is a teacher. Many times it is like steps back
in the sense that it is somewhat archaic, since it is also obligatory in
a subject that is called emotional intelligence, such as because many times we do
not say the child does not approve, yes, but you do not deepen
in the students do not know the problem that, perhaps the baby brings in
his childhood, in the circle or family environment. So I think if we
taught kids a good emotional management, that everything really eradicates our childhood and our
minds. If we are not acts or we are not qualified to manage our
mind to learn that our emotions speak and how to make more resolution based on
that, because we can hardly get enrolled, not in mathematics, in history,
in language, in literature. My opinion, it' s fine.
Hey, do you remember any stories? When you' re your little girl,
you remember some story, that you keep it in mind, and that
maybe you' ve told it to your kids, you' ve shared it
with them. Yes, little Red Riding Hood post and they do already above
all Alma, Alma is very mother. I had to separate myself by circumstances
of life. Then I have a week myself because we have shared and a
week dad and when there' s Mom, Mom, Mom, I try
to enjoy as much time as possible with her and she loves these things that
we' re talking about movie stories and yes, in her day I told
her the story of Little Red Riding Hood that my grandmother told me in her
day. Yes, they repeat no and yes, they repeat, they repeat
hear and now tell us. Please remember the worst gift you' ve ever
been given. So you open it and you say what this is. I
don' t know I can' t have been Christmas, birthday on some
anniversary, something like that. You remember that worse one. Yeah, it
' s been done yet. I really remember my mother, my mother,
I' m very modern, as you can see, because I' ve
seen very much today. I always wear my color hairstyle and so on,
but my mother has never had much for that pa' s style of clothes
all that I like and I remember that Risa. I remember once my poor
little girl Elizabeth came, because I' m from January 2nd. Then I
always get double gifts for kings and birthdays. No, and I came to
her all excited. I' ve bought you a birthday present, very good
open what you' re going to love. Oh my God, Luis My
when I opened that good thing, but and he bought me some shoes that
I don' t think there was God who put it on. Come on.
They were super flat shoes that I' m never gonna be unless I
go to the gym and it was all filled with blessedness. I mean,
Mom, it' s really nice shoes, but I can' t imagine
your mom was all excited. No, or he' d call me"
hey," because I' d like to buy you the sea too,
the girl. It' s either red or shoe. I' d rather
see the money I made than buy it. I know yes, of course,
listen and see us remember. Please go evoke with us and with me
that moment when you said maybe in this city, that you didn' t
know in some city in some part of the world, that you said"
son" here. I like it a lot to come and live. It
' s happened to you, that you visit a place and say this is
my favorite place, where maybe you can rebuild, where maybe you can fill
yourself with peace, where maybe you can tell me how I want to live
here. You still have that longing and what city or what municipality or what
countries. Look, Luis, I have to confess to you that I'
m a typical sanitary, because I' m a sanitary. I like science,
biology, but I' m a spiritual being. I love spirituality,
I love meditating I love issues of consciousness too. And it was my turn
to work three months of summer in a town in Andalusia Huelva and I was
working three times of summer as a pharmacy technician in a small town that had
a beach that I know was called cartalla. What a beautiful town, what
a welcoming people. I was told the Sevillana, because of course I am
from the province of Seville and it is what you say a peace, a
tranquility that I, when I finished my contract at that time I came back
in the car crying because I did not want to come, it is not
wanted to come that I. I think we all live experiences of many kinds
and at the end of the way too in one way or another. It
' s not always a happy, happy, happy, full, focused mood.
Suddenly, we feel tired, we feel hungry, we feel angry,
we feel sad. Not because there are times when it seems that in this
case you sanitary, all sanitary, all should be happy and happy all the
time, not to inject that happiness, but the truth is that it is
not a life. They' re humans living on this planet. Therefore,
they also have problems. How you get up from a sadness, from one
of a slumber, how you do it, what you do, what you
eat you fall asleep, what you do. I' m a girl who
trains a lot. I' m going there and I would recommend it to
everyone, because we release hormones from happiness and that' s a wonder for
our body. And it' s true that many times they think that being
sanitary, you' re a robot and we' re not human people.
We also get sick, we also have our bad days. We also sometimes
have to deal with and control and manage our emotions, because my motivation is
king And many times, because when you get out of bed, because you
always have the mentality that there are always people who need your help. No
and I' m a lot of positive affirmations, of listening to joyful songs
and changes a little when you have a low, because it' s human
being to reprogram myself a little bit of mind not with this kind of test
or technique and jat and assimilate and assimilate and accept that a bad day,
because it' s part and course of life nothing happens for having a bad
day. Tomorrow will be a better one. But you cry, you vent,
maybe you stump. Then come and give it that life remains clear,
yes that and besides, they are sensitive chas, because I wind up in
the room many times I give myself when I baby it. Logically, they
don' t see me and that' s it and I get up as
a good warrior. If I' ve fought a lot in my life at
thirty- eight years and I' ve had a habit and I don'
t fall so easily anymore, Luis and I don' t fall so easily
anymore. But I' m trying to cope and deal with it the way
I' ve handled you before, because I have to tell you my dear
Elie that you' re thirty- eight, but I estimate you twenty-
eight, so you look very young and come because life I think you have
to live face to face and always until the end, until the last breath.
We' ll have a moment to rest and to be, but today
we have to take it forward. I congratulate you on everything you do.
I want to tell you something very special. We' re getting to the
final straight, but I want to tell you something very special. There are
few times that you are sure to be told and I share this with you
so that you can share it with your colleagues on behalf of all the people
who have helped, who help all the people who have accompanied in their moments
of loneliness, of sadness, those moments in which you believe you think and
feel that you are already delivering the equipment, that there is no turning back.
You guys are coming to hit it. You come to shine a sparkle
on people' s lives. You come to give people hope. And I
want to thank you deeply for all the effort, the dedication, the undisclosed
ones, because even if you are a mom, you leave your little ones
and give yourself up full, you don' t reserve anything. And that
is to be thanked and we stand in front of you, in front of
you. Thank you very much, thank you for everything you do. Many
times you are required more than even people can do for their families. Then,
in the name of all those sick people, in the name of all
those granny people, those who are present and those who are no longer present.
Saying eli, thank you for your time, for your effort, for
your dedication and for your real love is so many. Thank you very much
and I would love to say goodbye to you to tell us, please,
a message for the whole planet. Imagine that this message is going to be
broadcast by radio, television, the Internet, by smoke signals. Everyone will
understand, it will be translated into English, Spanish, German, French,
all languages, all languages, all dialects. What message would you give to
the planet at this time, my dear Ellie, for I would say that
it is very happy, which is what we have also been commenting on,
that they have a good emotional management, that life is the here and now
that we live in the present and that they enjoy, that they enjoy and
that they are happy and that they feel already abundant because we are already abundant
beings. No, and we have a lot of what you have, and
especially if we' re healthy, that' s more than blessed. No
thanks. Thanks to him. I hug you, I hug you. Tiagos
many blessings to Ithor and Alma and here you are open with a space from
Mexico to talk many times more. We' ll probably repeat in a lot
of interviews. In the meantime, he receives many blessings and you who see
the podcast, who listen to him, I invite you once again to share
and see what a good question. It' s about that, being able
to positively impact people. If someone probably needs to hear from your familiar family
friends, share this chapter. At the end of the road, we will
realize that, obviously, there are ways to live better and thanks to my
guests, in this case, to Eli. Therefore, we still see each
other and hear each other in a next chapter. Good morning, good afternoon,
good night wherever you meet Bye bye Chao n s