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I tried to do earlier. I just haven't had time. Even Oscars I
was going to and I meant to get to it at some point and I
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there. I just there wasn't much to I think maybe it's just because there
wasn't much to say. You know, they're like, there's a couple like
snubs, you know, the whole you know, I'm putting quotations because I
can't say they're snubs because I've not seen everything, you know. I was
surprised. Greta didn't get in, but I just want to subbed her for
Marty because I don't think hills Father was amazing. But same thing with Robbie
I've talked about before. So it was kind of par for the course,
which I think is a tough thing with a lot of the award shows and
nominations before happening, where there seems to be a rhythm, and I guess
maybe it's just because it's I'm pretty happy with what's going on. Maybe sometimes
that there's a dark horse, like really worried but pretty sure Oppenheimer's gonna win
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think it'll be a good time. So Supergirl this happened yesterday. Now,
I had shared my thoughts a couple of weeks ago on Geek First and then
again funny enough, just on Vodkas from because Dave ass like, oh hey,
what's the last two? And I was like, I'm like, it's
a million. It's like an obvious choice, especially when it was down to
the two. And I think I had said that on Geek First. But
if not, you know, hence why the show is called hashtag trast told
you it just seemed like the no DA thing. So I'm not gonna try
and repeat too much that I've said here or the discord, but it's just
or my Twitter. But I kind of have to just do in case you
don't listen every episode, which of course you don't. The Three Things won
the connections to Warner Brothers. She's already has a working relationship with them.
She was a big deal in the marketing campaign House a Dragon, and she
was a big deal on getting Game of Thrones back on order because after that
finale, many people like myself, I really had no interest. When Kirkland
terror We're gonna review at first, I said no, and I said,
okay, I'll check out the first episode and go from there, and it
was a great episode. And then I stayed on that show is great and
she's a big reason because that character over Nira, she killed it. She
give to the point where people are so disappointed, including myself, that man,
we're getting a time jump already, Like we just met this character as
actress. Let's stick with her for a little bit. So and that's kind
of Number two is one the Warner Brothers connections. I just thought they've already
worked with her. They can go around saying, hey, is she good?
What's it worth? Epic? Like Yeta da da, all those boxes
ready to check off what you want. And we see that all the time.
You know, Disney works with Disney people, Netflix, Netflix people,
Warner Brothers. That's the name of the game. I'm not saying people don't
spread around, but I think I can already see Warner Brothers. And they
even said like, oh, we may do a flashback episode and maybe that's
where we could get you know, this character so and so, Like I
feel like they look at her and she's young enough, and she's new and
she's that's the second point, very talented, that they probably got their hooks
in her same way as a a young Nolan now different as directing, right,
But there's many times studios do that where you grow up in that studio
where of course she might do stuff with other people, but you're almost home
bas is, Well, this is Warner Brothers. And I feel like million
Alcock is somebody that they want to invest in. It's someone that could be,
Hey, this could be a next big star. This could be an
excellent day at Timothy Shall might That's a lot to put on a person.
I'm not trying to do the whole m Night Shyamalan, the next Spielberg thing.
No, I'm not trying to do that. But I just feel like
she has the tools and you look at she's done a few other things,
but she went from House to Dragons pretty much to Supergirl, which could be
very big for Right, we don't know what comic movies are gonna do in
a few years. We don't know how the DCU is gonna do, Like
look at Madam Webb. I know that's a whole different case. But like
what's coming out to our guyle this week, which I don't I think I've
seen some of the people being like more positive of the review, like I
think reactions drop to moral, but there's been people hinting around, so I'm
excited. But our guy right now is tracking at a fifteen to twenty five
million dollar opening. Madam Webb is tracking twenty to thirty million dollar opening,
like of course Argall has a stack cast. But the fact that just this,
you know anything Marvel with Dakota Johnson Sidney Sweeney is tracking to be just
like ten million higher than Argyle. Yeh, So I want to be confident
that's gonna happen, right, I hope. I keep saying it's a break,
but it's not because we got Sony, but who knows where we will
be. But let's say they recover and it's a big, big hit.
That's great for her, and that's a big launching point right as spubs the
Manchuri says, the fans of the hit Disney's Ambie trilogies would have fled the
box officer magnonally, Yeah, maybe I hadn't heard she was from that,
And yeah, I forgot say that was the other choice because it had gone
down to there was a fourth one. I can't remember who that was,
and then there was the girl from Coda, which the rumor was she didn't
read. You don't know what that means. Either she didn't like it,
or she didn't want an addition, or she just maybe got the script or
like you the pross go oh, you know, this isn't for me,
Like I don't. I'm not gonna take that as a negative or positive.
It's just okay, she didn't read. That could be whatever situation, who
knows. And then it was down to Donnelly and that was down to Alcock
and I just again I thought from the star power as far as just hey,
it does help as far as she's the right type of star, because
who they got so far? Could you say that? I don't know?
Am I wrong in thinking that what's his name? Nicholas Holds is the one
that might be getting paid the most. Now maybe they even corn Sweat and
bought Bros and him might because they sound like a multi picture deal. But
to me, that Millie Alcock is someone where it's like she's a star on
the rise. That's a perfect time to get her. She's that oh I
remember from House of Dragons. But she's also not a household break the bank
sort of name right, and same thing as mcdonnelly. I don't think that
would have been the case either. So I've only seen zombie movie. They
think the second one has were walls, the third one has aliens. It's
no teen visually says as bumps. I never heard of it, and I
know she did the voice, but I just thought, you know, it
was just the easy pick. And then the third one was just that.
I've not read, uh Supergirl woman up to more. But everyone describes her
and this probably goes down to her acting talent, but and similar to how
dragons, but they describe like, oh, this isn't your mom Supergirl.
You know she has an edge and she swears and she gets drunk like like
those things is exactly what she dos to house a dragon. I'm not saying
that we're near and Supergirl or and car gonna be the exact same person,
No, But I'm just saying, like you saw her flexose muscles a little
bit to the point where James Gunn said in a threat today where he confirmed
me yesterday and then today, which I know some people might be like,
oh you feel a little bad for these actresses, Yes, but you don't
know till the end of the room, right, because he said that he
saw how the dragons and he went to Peter Saffron like, man, she'd
be right supergirl. So you could go like, why did you do all
these auditions? Now, there's a whole bunch of reasons, right. Sometimes
agents even have favors of like hey, I want my girl to test or
Mike got to test or whatever that happens all the time, or maybe even
Wanner. But it was like, hey, let's just see our options.
It was surprised, I would, you know, surprising that if was that
hard of a pick, you wouldn't start with her and then if she didn't
work, go somewhere else. But at the same time, who knows how
many they did audition If it was just the four, not a big deal
because maybe it was like, hey, this is James pick, because I
think that happens a lot too, and I was gonna throw example. But
it's kind of like the one for you one for me. There's many times
where it's like there's a list and this is who the director of the producers
like, and this is who like the studio likes, right, and sometimes
it's okay, I will take this guy, but we want this girl to
be one of these three, So it could easily in that too of like,
hey, we know you like Milly. We like Milly, but Cannie
also, you know, test these girls and see and plus I could just
be testing them for other stuff too. That's part of the room that when
we're all hope that whether it was he was in on it or it wasn't,
part of his testing was just to see chemistry wise and just also see
could he be lex And that's where I am again, is all known void
so far. If the Batman, if I don't get the Batman trilogy,
I turned on James gun quicker, I don't know, quicker than along In
at the Bash of the Beach, like I that's the one thing I need.
If he gives me that, I'm gravy with the rest of stuff.
As I've said before. If Batman Brave and Bold gets a Batman, where
I go, eh, I don't know about that likes for me, Jensen
ankles right where people just love that pick and I go, that's definitely not
it. If he gets cast I go, uh, not for me.
But I got my Batman over here, and I'll give this one a chance,
I will say, so. Taking the Batman stuff out of it.
There's a few things where as I've said many times, think all of us
are feel that geek for some most of our communities, like it should have
been you know, the keep trying to fix the ship or the clean reboot
after the fucking Box Office this year. You don't fix the ship, you
let it sink and you get a new ship. So as for that,
it's still you know, oh, you get Wall or you got Peacemaker.
I know, people go, oh, it's like j JSON's inspierment. Eh.
Yes, but it's not the exact same. It's not Apple's apples,
right, so I question that. And there's been you know, other than
casting Wi, it's been perfect, other than like, hey, his brother's
Maxwell Lord, you go all right, that's an odd one. But at
the end of the day, the overall stuff that has been happening I've been
happy with. And I guess it's just because, like every a next old
Lord, we did not know was getting cast. So I didn't be like,
here's my pick, this is where, and I shouldn't. It's it's
just a worry. Right when you're starting a universe, you're going that route,
and there's some things that gun can do where I go, Oh,
I don't know if I love that, but loved all the Guardians movie,
I like Squad, I like his other movies a lot, and so far
this is where I think with this one. Now, I'm really until the
Batman and is happening. I'm gonna try my best just to go. I'm
just gonna trust them no matter what, because Superman, Lois Lane, Lex
Luthor, and Supergirl, all the people that went that to me, is
the right pick, whether it be my liking of the person or business wise
a combination of them. James Gunn has picked that person. So for me,
it's like if I have the sensibilities of like I think these people line
up and he's picking those, I'm not trying to say like oh being gone
thing like no, it's just like I have no reason, Like he's using
all the ingredients. It's like if someone's making a piece of like what's on
and each ingredient is like oh, good good good good good right, and
even like uh, like the Sean Gun thing that might just be like oh
and you can dip it in this. It's like, ah, I don't
dip into that, Like I don't love that, but thanks for offering it
and we'll see. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. So it's
a fucking great cast. And there's other people right like Fillian in there and
stuff, so just the main core people. Great cast. Not confirmed if
she's in Superman, because Gun today was like, I never said she was
in this movie, which could be true, but he also didn't say.
He did not not say. I think they're just gonna try and keep that
a secret. I think that will be I don't know if it's an end
credit, which I actually thought about the other day. I kind of hope
that the DCU doesn't do end credits. I'd love them to like just really
sit his movies on their own. And you know that's not a thing we
do, if not, maybe every once in a while. But I still
think it's gonna be them talking about Krypton or something like that. And that's
where you see a flash of car right now. It led into and what
led into the main topic here is the director. The rumor is this is
shooting in the end of Fall or fall end of this year, fall,
whatever it may be, so this year, which is interesting because I don't
think that means it would come out next year, because you could jump to
that conclusion to say, oh, they could have enough time here year.
I think what that means is this could be like the big twenty twenty six,
which I know is a long way away. We're talking about now two
years, but that could be the big opening movie right in the we've talked
about before the season has gone back March April May whenever. That is,
because if they're filming and we don't know who it is and everything, right,
but and this we're gonna talk about. But if they're filming fall twoenty
twenty six, I think if they stick to the comic book even a little
bit, it's gonna be a bigger movie. So and it's gonna have lots
of post production time, so there's even a chance it also is summer next
year, right this summer of the year after. It would be interesting to
see if they're gonna stack the super People back to back like that. I
always thought it would be like Superman some movies, then Supergirl. So that's
interesting. But I think as long as Legacy hits, as far as just
people liking it, and then even the small appearance you get to see Kara,
and if they like that, then great. Then it's like, yeah,
give me more so, and it's gonna be very very different stories,
Like we don't know exactly what James guns ready, but based on the inspirations
of his story and then the inspirations of women to more, it's like these
couldn't be further right. So that is a good thing that has going for
it. So twenty twenty six, I think for sure. I don't think
like, I don't think we're gonna live in a world where it's like December,
even though December is a good slot for mees, I don't think that's
gonna happen. So we'll see, And I'm gonna bring up this question.
I'm gonna take our first ad break, but I'm gonna bring up a question
from our favorite God Loves Me sixty nine patron never not gonna smile and laugh
when I hear that. And then also just a list. I've seen people
thrown off who shouldrek Supergirl because you know, if it's fall and they're casting,
who knows. Maybe that's been My hope is that the director's been around
that they could put their input because it feels a little weird when Gun's like
it's gonna be a director driven studio, and the director of Supergirl does not
pick Supergirl. I get if she's in Legacy, but you would think maybe
like, hey, that's good director, and then have them sit on.
But that's where I still think he's gonna be more Kevin Foggy than he lets
on. And that could be fine because I like what Kem Faggy's done.
My joy of the Time Phase five some questions, but let's sake her first
ad break and then we'll be right back with some director choices and we're back.
So the great guy uh Wells he's sixty nine, says, do you
hope James Gun will direct Supergirl? Why? Or why not? Do I
do? I hope no, And not because I have anything against Gun.
It's just that to me, if he's directing more super stuff, it would
be legacy. Two. I don't want him to spread himself too thin.
I don't want him to do Hey, I'm gonna do Superman, then Peacemaker,
then Supergirl, and then super Legacy too, and then Supergirl's Like I
think you get, that becomes a lot of work for one person to do.
It's different if he was just directing. If it's just hey, he's
gonna direct these movies, that's fine, but he's not. He's a co
president of DC Studios, right, so that's a lot of other stuff to
do. If he wants that hands on again, this would be like,
Oh, if he's the president and hires a writing team and they do everything,
sure, but as far as we know the idea of how it works,
I would not want him on that. I think you could get some
really warrant here and that could turn like against the quality of it. That's
why I always appreciate Nolan and others, and it hasn't happened to James gunn
luckily because he's done Guardians and Squad all back to back. But I've said
this before. I liked Nolan taking the Batman one for him Batman one for
him because I think it just gave him space. It gave him two and
a half years away from Batman, and then when he got back to it,
he was refreshed, and I think that shows. Sure. I know
people might have problems with Dark Knight's Rises, but it's like quality of that
film is from a filmmaking point of view, spectacular at times, right,
So the hoping I think it's just that for his mentability. And two I
would love to see someone else take a crack at it. You know,
I don't want I love James Gunn, but I don't want it to just
be James Gunn. Presents a film by James Gunn every time, right,
So I think for some reason, if they said, hey, we're directing
Superman Legacy, he dies the end, or it's just gonna be just League,
I'm not doing a sequel, then maybe I could say, Okay,
sure have gun do it. But I think give it to someone else,
And especially with that schedule for it, right if it's shooting a fall next
year, not that even though gun said he's very hands on with the stuff,
not that they have to be there, but that would mean okay,
he's gonna shoot in March, that could take anywhere from you know, three
to four months, and then post production promotion, he's gonna an nd peacemaker.
He's not gonna direct it in that time. There's no way. So,
like I said, maybe if he wasn't directing Superman, I would be
fine that pick. I know it's probably gonna be a woman, and I
don't think it has to be. I think that is something that I'm completely
fine with. I think I just would have loved it if we would have
got a two and it's too late now, but if we would have just
got a one two punch of the announced the director of Supergirl and it's a
man, and people, oh my fucking god, it's a man. How
could they be directing? This is not good? And then you have to
Batman and it's a woman. I would love that. Like, that's where
I think we still need to change there, because I don't think it should
be a woman has directed Supergirl and a man has direct Batman. I'm sure
there's hundreds, at least dozens directors writers out there that you say, hey,
you got a good Batman story. Absolutely, and I'd love to see
that. I'd love to see. I would actually really love to see a
movie from a female's perspective about Bruce Wayne. You could have you know,
a female other character, but I just mean a take on that, right,
and maybe it's a completely same, but that's where for me, and
that's where if it goes well, like The First Wonder Woman, you can
see a different side of a character with somebody, right, if a man
direct that. I think there's certain things in there, we wouldn't have got
there, right. So Frank says MCU is a producer driven unsaved. I
think you'd have to clarify what that means because it is producer driven, yes,
but Figy's not. Also, if you mean this, fig he's not
also directing the movies though. That's the difference. Uh, the MSU is
a producer driver if that's what talking about. Yeah, that's that's the only
difference though, right is you could have the DCU being produced and that beat
them do everything, but it's not. No one's directing the MCU movies like
you know, uh, Figy, loose Estepoziito, you know, they're all
behind the scenes. So and then who I want Greta Gerwig's Batman? Fuck?
I would love I've said this before, and that's what Batman, Uh
what is it? Batman and Robin pretty much is. But I said I
would love someone to do a Batman sixty seven, a Batman movie, and
thank you superd Mike, and I would, I would would? I take
that right? That's tough because I love Greta Gerwig, loved Barbie, loved
Little Woman, I really liked Lady Bird. So I it's one of those
things that she is a talented director, so I couldn't say no, and
I would just fu love to see it. Out of my favorite female directors,
I would go to Emerald Thinnel wrote, just because I feel like she's
a bit better on the suspense side. But I would still take it.
And I would take that as like I want someone to do a Batman sixty
seven. I want them to do Today day and age on purpose, tongue
in cheek, jokey. I think there could be a good time. Doesn't
have to be a big budget. Obviously, look at those costumes, right,
Like that's where I think everyone's wanted John Hamm. Get John ham to
do that, but sure light the world on fucking fire. And again it's
any Muschetti, which you know, I'm happy with that choice. For the
most part. I would love to see grete kuwigs Barbie because talk about the
opposite of Matt Reeves, Right, You're definitely gonna get something. And I
do think Brave in the Bolt's gonna be somewhat more lighthearted. Now. Yes,
Damien is a character that just chops people says off. Sure, but
I feel like just that father son the Batman Robin stuff. There will be
some more lighthearted stuff in there. But so for directors, the big scuttle
butt today was Kate Heron, who directed season one of Lokian's done a few
other things that I know. She's diding Glass Office as well, coming up
that she liked a post of guns and liked to post a Millia alcoholics everything,
Like, Oh, she's the one. Sure I think I've said this
about I can't remember. We were talking about better than Narnie. Yeah,
I think she needs to get the fuck away from Narnia. In my opinion,
I like, I've only seen the movies. I like Narnia. I
do agree with people that that was a pre Barbie success signing, and I'm
not gonna say she could not return back to that. I just think there's
a lot of potential error. And I also just think because it's on Netflix,
if it was theatrical, maybe that Kate gred is gonna because some of
the production, the way it shot, as far as just like the world
of Barbie Land or whatever Dreamland, whatever the fuck it's called. I think
she could have the hood spat there. It's just what Netflix is like.
If that thing just gets tossed on Netflix and you don't get theatrical run.
It's like, man, that's like not the way you want to follow up
Barbie. So yeah, I would definitely prefer Batman or for Narnia in that
sense. I still think she could bring something to it, but I just
think it's just kind of I don't know. I kind of hope she disappears
into like a you know, like a producer executive producer on it, and
she brings it like this is someone that's really talented. I could do this,
you know. Frank says, I don't remember MC directors doing the actual
casting though we always want d C keem Fi you know, turning back now,
and I agree, and I'm all for it. I just spent in
a sense when he said this, all these films are director driven to me.
It's not like it's a full on oh now he's sitting over their shoulders
stuff. But that is something where I thought someone that's directing Supergirl would probably
want to pick that, right. I'm fine with him being the Figy of
it all. I've always said that that I didn't need a like Kevin Figi
to go to DC and run the exact same type of quality content. Now,
I'm fine with one or two guys, gals whatever that the buck stops
with them. And if you're doing a universe, which you could argue they
shouldn't, but if you are, you should have a couple of people that
are they make the final call. Right. You can't do that with a
bunch of directors. Right, it has to be Fie, it has to
be Gun or Saffron. Right. So I'm fine with it. But it's
just kind of like a little bit of a like when people kept trying to
tell them, like, no, it's not gonna be like Fie, You
not gonna be like that. Yeah, it's gonna be like that, Like
if you're doing it this way, now he might do in a different route.
That's fine. That's what we can talk about. I'm excited to talk
about that later, like in the years to come when we compare like the
Phase one and chapter one and stuff. But only time will tell, right,
let's see if Warner Brothers still leaving a float. So with Kate Herring,
I think this is what I talked about a Marvel Alliance too, where
I can't remember I thing. It was all in the game where somebody asked
about Benson a more head because they did Moonnight, they did Low Key season
two, they're working on Daredevil and then they asked like, oh, what
about them doing Secret Wars? And at the same answer I have for them,
as I do for Kate Herron, as I do for Bryce Ayles Howard
that's on this list. I just have like three lists of just like people
keep coming up, and there's one that's like the popper list. I want
to see them direct a movie first. That is just coming from a curious
fanboy. I have no right to say Bryce Stollers not good enough, You're
strict a movie. No, it just would make me more comfortable because we've
talked about this before. TV's different than movie, books are different than TV,
etcetera. Right, So it's just like a feature film. That's what
I'd like to see first from all three of those. If you're just saying,
hey, based on the TV stuff, yes, Bryce Dyules Howart that
gets the thumbs up. Yes. Kate Heron gets an absolute thumbs up because
I'm more in Loki Season one camp than I am too. Oh god,
who is the other one? Let me pull up the list here? Where
was it here? Because the biggest ones are Greta Gerwig. This is the
ones that keep coming up, right credit gerg Bryce dus Howard, Kate Heren,
Debra Chow and Chloe Shao Devera Chow. Same thing. That's the other
one. I loved her Mandalorian work Obi one. I don't know if direction
was a problem with that. I think it was writing. But if she
had something dude the writing, then that has some issue there. So same
thing. I'd like to see a full movie and if there is some one,
let me know and then I'd have to watch it, but just something
a bit more recent. And then the or Greta and Kloijaw. I don't
want Kloydjow anywhere near Supergirl. I will never say she's a bad director.
It is just a not my tempo, not for me, eternals god whatever
she want an oscar for Oh fuck, it's not like mud Land. That's
something else. No, Madland was not for me. I can appreciate.
It's like my Shri. I can appreciate it, but not not my bag
baby. And then Greta Gerwig, that's just the hot pick, right.
But I still think that she should like we're talking about with Mike, she
should get a Narnia and then go do like her dream project, like after
Barbie, that's the time, Like I'm sure it was still in motion,
but when the dart Knet hit as big as it did, you know,
Warren Brothers will absolutely do fucking inception and then after inception, but it was
like, do whatever the fuck you want, Like that's how you can have
it with Greta and Barbie. Right now, she's in that right zone where
even if she comes back to Narnie, it's like you can kind of do
whatever you want in this town. Right now, people will be throwing themselves
were if you go and make a Narnia movie, that's myth that was all
right? Is not watch as much considered a disappointment one way or the other.
That can kill your moment. And we talk about this time, this
fucking lucasfilm. You could be the greatest director in world, but you won't
direct one seven ad ten six at ten movie fucking drop you like a fly,
you know. So let's see, just as long as director has input
on the script, gives them more skin in the game compared to how Marvel
does it. And I agree with that, and that's where it could be
different. Right, that's the put up or shut up where right away I
go, okay, you're casting them for them, that's different. Like even
Gun he helped cast The Guardians, so he would probably know, like as
a director, I'd like to do this. But like you said, Mike,
if it comes down to really a different style, because the MCU does
have it, right, they have Peel that different style, but they always
have a similar tone, which I still think is a good thing to have
in the universe. But if it's like that, but it turn up a
little bit more where you really see the director, then absolutely so. But's
obviously again that's a waiting game, right, And then what about the directors
of the Bottoms. It's funny. I was gonna bring it up because I
was on on this list, so what was this their lists here? So
yeah, this is a bunch of people at Emma Selgaman. So for me
it's different because yeah, bottoms cheap, so bottoms is great. Next week,
next two, Yeah, next week. I think I'm finally gonna do
my because I know Maddie lask about I'm finally gonna do my twenty twenty three
rings. I know people go a month into it there's movie like Poor Things
that Iron Claw that I couldn't see in Colonna, Like there's things I had
to see first, right, So I'm hoping to do that, and I'm
hoping for the patrons to announce as like great the best actors in the world
tournament. I've been talkmbo this for a while. I want to select forty,
you know, forty actors. I'm gonna select the participants, but you
guys are gonna vote because I always have a problem like who are my top
to mail? Who are my top ten female? So I'm gonna let you
pick my top ten, even though I'll probably always say, like now,
I consider i'm's still on the best after four things, because wow, right,
I love bottoms this year. That's high mini sports in my top ten.
You can fill my letter box. And then she's a baby. Oh
my god, I had never seen it heard about to watch. She a
baby fantastic. I think with her, the tough thing is is always directors
looking to level up. Right, look good, Ryan Coogler Fruitville to create
a black panther that is three levels of It's not him staying in his lane.
So I'm not saying she couldn't see it do it. I just think
that is such a big especially Woman of Tomorrow's just described as this like soap
like soap opera, a space opera epic to me, with the world being
destroyed and all this stuff, that's a massive talent, Like a massive talent
has to take that on. I'm not saying she doesn't have that. It
would just be curious. And again it also depends that I'm gonna have I
should read the story soon enough. We want to bring back comic versions,
but it's just like the bandwidth and the time and just the support, right,
That's why head over Patron because we would love to do that, but
you know, when CPMs are down and you know, Downlands aren't a big
as usual, and especially for that show, it's tough. But I'd love
to see what it's like. So as far as like if it was announced,
it'd be like a hmm oh right, it's one that I have to
see. But I I love everything, Like everything she's done so far to
me is like a ten out of ten, so I couldn't push it away.
So that's one that I would approve and just be curious about. Angela
Roberts or Angela Robinson. So this is just b listened some random people that
have been like come up before her debut. Future was Deb's LGBTQ plus actually
called me romance, spy, spying training, falling in love with the super
villain. I'm not gonna add much on this because i don't know her,
So as I'm reading this, I'm like, why should I? I have
nothing to add here? But cool? I like that people think she's in
the running. Let's see here Adele Limbs. This is one that she directed.
She wrote the script for Riyah and Last Dragon. I like that,
she wrote the screenplay for Crazy che Asians Never Saw, and then she directed
Joy Ride. Okay, the scripts I really like, especially Rayah. That
to me is a huge like that sense of that has epic scale at time,
and it's different animated she'd in directed, but still just the idea of
some of the scope there. That's good. Joy Write I didn't love as
much as other people, but I still enjoyed it, So not a bad
one. Let's see Debs is amazing. Same thing on ray It's like gay
sky High pot with spies. Okay, I'll have to put it on my
watch list. I've never heard about this, so hey, maybe she gets
the gig. Here we go. Frank says, Woman of Tour is basically
a true grit in space. It's a hell will read awesome and that's all
I hear is great stuff. I'm oh, man, you think video games
are behind on Mike? I feel so bad, Mike. Comics is like
I'm in a neglected marriage. Who's gonna leave me? There's so many great
comic books of the past few years, and currently I want to read Ultimate
Spider Man, The Batman, thirty nine once coming out, or nineteen thirty
nine Detective Comics. Like Man, I just don't have the time. I'm
so excited at some point to like, I am excited for it to be
done editing the movie because we will be filming stuff. But then I'm somebody
that I had it a little bit. But I like to edit when I
have like at least seventy five percent the filming stuff done. I don't know
why, it's just like, because there's other stuff I'm usually writing that I'm
not like, well, break, I like to have majority of the footage
so I can really throw it all together and start cat a vibe for the
film. So after film there's lots of games I want to do. There's
lots of comics, and you know, Woman's mora is up there. Let's
see here, so dell lem yeah, I'd be fine with that. Let's
see Savannah Leaf before she was a filmmaker. She's a professional volleyball player.
Okay, what has she done? Let's see she's a talented filmmaker, athlete.
Let's see. Her debut feature is Earth Mama, a compelling human drama.
All right, don't know much there. Fia Sharrock two thousand, so
she directed twenty sixteens. Me Before You in twenty twenty is the one and
only Ivan. Her work on Ivan showed a comfort working with visual effects.
That's what the monkey gorilla right, ability to craft a sweet and touching story
with non human characters. All right, not as soul? Is that one
with me before? Like it doesn't scream that one, But again, people
can change and level upright and kind of go that way. Let's see here.
Yeah, no, I wouldn't go there. And then yeah, Greta
Gerwer gets the other one that pops up. So I don't have a personal
pick ye yet, really I don't. This was the one I'm waiting to
see it also, just because I don't know the story for sure, but
it's one that I still think we could get a director that is on the
newer side that maybe we've just heard them do one. I just hope it's
somebody that I've seen their work and I like it. That's all I'm hoping
for. But I'm also ready to be you know, impressed and find a
new favorite director and stuff. So yeah, we'll see. I think director
will be coming soon. Because if they're if they're planning on starting and fall
and they're casting Millie right now, they'll be a script which apparently has already
been written, they'll be starting to do pre production, they'll be casting all
that. The ball's gonna get moving on that, and that's really exciting.
So I'm happy to hear about that. Okay, let's talk about some Marvel
stuff. We got a couple just sort of spit spitfire, random fire,
I don't know whatever, what would it be? God, I used to
I didn't have a segment trushall I used to have to say, Right,
I had the box office breakdown and then I had what else did I have?
Rapid fire was at it? Yeah, the rapid fire. So last
week there was a rumor coming out that Kang now Marvel is considering our talking
with John David Washington some of a couple of minds here where one? Okay,
three? Yeah, I guess three, So I'm not a couple one.
I said this in the Marvel Predictions, So go check out Marvel Alliance.
I was on their last two weeks on their episode two hundred. Great
time with those guys. Always have a good fun time just catching up with
them talking Marvel because we're all friends. But we got good different opinions and
we stand very much on different sides, which is good, you know,
And I love those guys there. So and then again, congrats to two
hundred because I was I won't say a small part, but I was like
the first part to get it going with Chris. But now they've taken it
and you know, done great things with it. So sorry, I need
some water there. So on that episode on the Predictions one, I said
that we will not hear about a replacement for Kang in twenty twenty four.
So I don't think I said the gek ers and I'm standing by it.
I still think you could get like, let's say it is John Day Washington,
John David and Don Dawn. John David Washington cast in Avengers five right
where it just secret Wars, right, unknown role that doesn't count to me.
They're not going to physically or put an out there that. Okay,
he's playing Kang this year. I think they want to get some time in
between and if they do get out somebody, it'll be in an unknown role
as the villain or whatever it may be. Right, So that's one part
of me. Second part is John Day Washing is great. I feel like
he's still looking for I won't say his footing, but he's had a very
interesting career where he blows up because of oh gosh, what is the movie
Spike Leewan an Oscar for clans Man Black Clans been right, it seems like,
okay, he's gonna almost be more like his dad do the earlier stuff,
like some more oscar Indie sort of route. And now it's like,
okay, well, he did The Creator and there was set and he did
Tenant, which tennants Nolan, SOI really can't pass it up. But like,
I feel like he's been in a lot of big stuff, but he's
not exactly blown up yet right, he's not to that top Eschel movie where
I think people are gonna go out to see a movie. This could help
him. And I think he's a great actor. I think he's I think
he's good. I don't know. I don't know what his take would be,
and I would be curious to see it. I do think Major's when
he had the role, was like a higher quality actor than him from what
we've seen so far, So I do think it would be good. But
it wasn't like a right away like oh my god, yes, but tons
of people have been suggested it, right, and maybe maybe it's just one
of those that's like a fan cast that for me, it's there's certain fancasts,
like when Rosari Dawson was being fancast as Soka, I was on board
for that, so I was like, oh, absolutely, that sounds great,
where when John Krasinski is getting at for Reed, I was like,
no, I don't like this, and I'm just I don't see it the
same way other people do. Right, So maybe that's it for me where
it's just like the fan cast has happened so much and it hasn't been like
an automatic oh my god, this would be amazing for me to be like,
yeah, okay, that works. He's a good actor, and maybe
I'd be completely wrong. Maybe when he does the role, he knocks a
home run. Right. I think it is the other thing that it's not
so much a fan cast. It's just that that other idea got put in
my head. And yes, super mind, Mike says, right there,
hashtag team Coleman Domingo. That's really tough because for me, just from what
I've seen based on Majors and Washington so far, I think Washington could at
best match him. I don't think he could be better than him, and
I think it would almost be a similar version. I think with Domingo he
could one like even do a better king than Majors did. And I think
with him as King, it would be a very different take in a whole
different vibe where Johnny Washington just doesn't have that yet. He's good, but
he just doesn't have that game changing vibe. Coleman would fucking just like he
would kill it and I would love like. I just think that's something that
he would bring so much gratass to that role and you would pay attention to
him anytime he's on screen. I feel he'd be chewing the sceni or in
a good way. So and I think you need that with a king,
especially now. So that's the thing where I think this could be just that
they're early on or it's bullshit rumors, right, But it could just be
that's early on. They're putting out feelers. Coleman Domingo, I'm kind of
worried about because he's in that Michael Jackson movie and then he's directing a movie
where he's starring as that gingk Cole. I feel like a less Avengers getting
delayed quite a while. His Bengal card is kind of filled out for a
bit. You're especially directing movie be Different. He was starring as that gang
gole, but he's gonna be directing that. That's a lot of work.
So I've kind of given up on that when that's not going to go that
route. So if it's Washington, fine, If it's not, hopefully just
another great actor, ah shit, fucking with them Maltiverse, My god,
I told you not to, didn't I? But you fucked around and found
out, didn't you miss the stock? That's my best. As I've said
before, I need to watch you for you and watch Ali because we met
Kirkland did the four review. I had it down Pat pretty good. I've
lost it because I haven't seen you for you in about two years, but
uh yeah, we'll see. And then two things on the Disney Plus side.
Uh One, there's a rumor going around that Iron Fist is Uh you've
been working. I've been trying. I've been trying because now it was the
idea of him coming back or being in one of the franchisees we talked about.
But hey, when you for season three gets here, I'll be ready.
I can't wait for those reviews. So there's rumor going around that Iron
Fist is coming back, but not what you think. Iron Fist is rumored
to be getting. And it's gonna this is gonna go into the second topic
too, But it's rumored to be getting a Disney Plus show, but it
would be a female Iron Fist. Gee, I wonder who got could be.
I think it's just gonna I said, I think Marvel Alliance. We
were on the same wavelength. I've been saying this for a while. It's
not gonna be Danny Ran, It's gonna be Clean Wing. And Jessica Henwick
has gone bigger since then, she was in Knives Out, she was in
Matrix, and she's in that uh that road trip when we come up,
which I don't know's gonna blow up, but I'm excited. It's Jennifer Garner.
I think you're Julia Gardner. Yeah, that's the one. Her star
is rising. Where I was saying that me and my wife were talking just
said like, no one, that's not really happened with anyone from Netflix,
right, Like I'm not saying they haven't been other things. Bertha was already
a star, so he doesn't count. But Mike Colter, sure, he's
in the play, mood Jar Butler, and Charlie Cox was in a Netflix
show, but none of them like really got bigger. Where Jessica Henwick to
me, did she started to work with these like big directors, right,
So for me, that's the easy play they made Marvel, Netflix, Cannon,
it's an easy route to go. And also the street level stuff,
which we're gonna talk about, that's the also the route to go. I
think street level would the occasional bigger show, like we've heard rumors about a
young Avengers. Fine, that's okay, take the risk every once in a
while, but money wise, exposure wise, and I just think what they
can do. I think Marvel Netflix had that right as far as the characters
that were picking were the more street level, and maybe that's what Disney Plus
should do now too. I think we've kind of capped. I we got
a couple other shows. I'm not saying you can't do big ones, but
maybe we've seen what the limit is, right and we're gonna talk about echoes
budget in a second. And you know, for me, it sucks because
if you go back to geek first, and I was telling them all this
because I feel like I don't talk about them as much because I feel like
it's with Moonnight and iron Fist, because I love those both. I don't
know if there are my top Moon Night's and my top ten characters. I
don't think iron Fist is top ten Marvel maybe. And Danny Ran specifically,
I think I talk about them less on the cast when interpretation comes out and
it's just kind of mid and then I have to move on because before it's
always like, oh, fucking moon and now Ran to Ran or fucking Danny
Ran after Netflix. It just sucks that, Like I wish they would just
recast Danny Wran and we could get iron Fist back. I love iron Fist,
and he's gone that terrible situation where bad movie, bad TV show,
bad kombook storyline and he gets put in character jail for a while. Right,
It's like, I don't know when we're gonna see Danny Rand, and
I love Danny Ran. I think there was bright spots iron Fists and Defenders,
but we didn't get the Danny that I knew in love. So that's
such a bummer. I'm fine with this. I'm not gonna be red.
I thumb now, Oh my god, there's a woman I worst didn't know.
It's like, cool, let's get iron Fist. Hopefully one day we
will see Danny Rand. But I worre it's gonna be like the way we
got Scott or we got Hank Pam where it's like, oh, I'm in
my retired years now, you know. And who knows, Cuz I've said
this before. I'm curious with the first Marvel Netflix rest is gonna be right,
and people might be like, oh well Vanessa, no, no,
no, don't count Vanessa, because Vanessa that was before everything was cannon.
Right, Everything's supposedly canon now, so I'm curious to see Luke Cage Iron
Fist, maybe even one of the villains. Who's gonna get that official recast
or they not. And that's where we won't learn that Iron Fists because if
they're bringing a female version, you don't got to talk about Danny Ran,
you don't gotta you don't got a recast, you don't gotta stay alive,
dead, missing, whatever, it doesn't matter, it's a different Iron Fists.
I'm sure they'd mentioned him. I hope they don't kill him, but
you can kind of just go whatever route you want, right Supermke says would
be awesome if they could full moona in Netflix stuff, but feels like they
went too big for him, too fast for that. Now, I agree
with you. That's I have many complaints with Moonight, and I always say
this too. Where Moonnight that is definitely a case where there's stuff like secret
Invasion and you know Ami Kwanmania Echo even eternals to extent where there's stuff in
there writing and story wise, where I go, this is not good.
This is why it's so low on my MCU. Moonnight definitely has that.
I think it has portions and you go back to our reviews, it has
portions where it's rushed, poorly written, we're lacking some character stuff, not
the performance and the personality, which is like even some more development. And
then I can fully emit my bias where and then the other part of it
is not that it's like, oh, you have to do what I want.
I've of course won more the street level Graham Moon Night. It's just
okay, you're not doing that's fine, what's the counter? What are you
doing? And how good is it? And then to me when you do
the different version and it's just kind of fine. That's where I fully emit
my disappointment comes in there. And I do think that they got that.
That's just like MCU phase four. They were obsessed with fucking universe like world
ending threats after Endgame. I don't get it. I don't know why that
happened, why it was their big alligator in Egypt, But I digress,
right, They they, to me, just should have went with the character
suffering from the personality disorder in the street eats, keep and you know why
as well, keep it simpler, because storyline wise, I don't think they
really had it. So I agree let's see Franks's I mean Sung She is
a street level character too. Just give him a show where Isy it's too
late. It's like Moonlight. Moonnight to me is the or Sung She's the
difference, because at least to me, that's universally loved Moonnight. I don't
know. I feel like i'd I have to start asking more like general audience
people how they feel her if they watch Moonnight, because I feel like in
my camp it's like a mix. I feel like people really like it,
like I know Chris, I think I know Brent, Like do I feel
like Chris liked a lot more than me? But then there's a lot of
other people that are more on my side. Where man, what a do
like start really good? But what a disappointment? Like there's this wrong with
it, this wrong with it? So Moonight. I don't have a gauge
of where the ga is Sung She. I got to gauge there. I
think Sung She is overrated. I don't think it's one of the best MSU
projects. I think people are way too high on it, and for people
that so many people and not the Marvel fans, which is people in general
that are if you're Marvel like people when I go on the locker stream right
with with like, they'll talk about Sungshi and when I bring up the issues
it has, and I'm like, well, that's just like every other Marvel
film, so like why do you shoot on this one so much? But
this like I never get it. But what I can say is I'm in
the minority. I can say everyone fucking loves Sungshi. You can't and also
went too big like Moonnight, but you can't do a TV show now like
it it has that audience. So we'll see. And then what came out
today is I think it's just still like a rumor, but it's a higher
tier now. I do have to say, as I take a drink of
water here, I don't know the exact sourcing, but I saw enough people
with my peers us talking about that it's a good scuttle but that higher tier
sourcing. Right, So there is a report that Echo costs forty million to
make good and bad here good fucking Secret of Major costs five million more than
Avengers, and that was a complete waste to sink or just waste of money,
sinkhole, money laundering, skiing. Perhaps I don't know their shows have
been outrageous for what their return is supposed to get at the subscribers are not
They're not worth it that much, right the numbers they have, so that
is good. That it's not this one fifty two hundred million everything like that.
That is really good. So at first when I saw, I went,
man, they're figuring out that's what you gotta do. Then I kind
of sat back and thought, and I googled what does Gamer Thrones cost per
episode? Now there's like varying reports, but I went with the one that
I found came up with the most and even like it's kind of closest to
the average. Last season costs. I think it was ninety millions, So
that meant that each episode was eleven point five million dollars. I did the
math for Echo and for that. So Game of Thrones final season that's eight
episodes, So eight episodes point seventy five or eleven point five biggest show in
the world, show that has multiple characters, that actors have razor stock,
actors that are coming back from multiple seasons, so you know, their contracts
go up, and huge set pieces cgi drainings of the Yin Yang. It's
a theatrical like theatrical experience on television eleven point five Echo is eight million dollars
per episode. Now, I was talking about this in the GA and Brent
brought up a fantastic point. So this could be to me some of it
of reshoots and new COVID prodigals Prodigals protocols. Absolutely right, COVID that's all
you know, it's still a factor, and just the protocols, that's still
a thing, right, especially sometimes some countries get new strains and you go,
okay, fuck is it starting again? So that's one. And reshoots
because they did do reshoots. We heard about that, right, Marvel always
does reshoots, So you could say that's the balloooning of it. I still
think that is way too much for a go. It'd be different if you
were to tell me secret invasions for me, I go, man, they
did a great job Echo, other than some of those shots of them in
the fucking like at the beginning, where's the ancestries and is the blue like
forest garden whatever you know? And all the echoes. Where's all that money
going if it's not on the protocol if it's because I agree with Brent that
reshoots and protocols would get there. I don't think protocols alone would get it
to eight million. That seems a lot, so maybe just the reshoots.
But still it's just like it's practical sets. There's really no superpowers. None
of these people are big stars. It's all okay, like that's still where
I go. I know that they might feel no, when we put out
a movie has to be something big. If you spend the forty million Disney
Plus and I guess it's on Hulu, I don't think it brought anybody in.
Now. There were stats a couple of weeks ago that showed like Hawkeye
season is Daredevil's other shows went up because people want to go check those out,
like after I goo right or before Do that make sense? But that
could also just be a subscriber base. Like I've said this before, Kirkland
and Taylor have Disney Plus. They've never watched Daredevil, so at a lot
of those could still be Disney Plus people that oh, we're gonna watch this
now. I don't think Echo like dreve a massive like subscription base to it.
And that's fine. Neither The Secret Invasion neither did Miss Marvel, you
know, so I'm not saying, oh, what's Echo's fall. I'm just
saying, when you're spending forty million, I guarantees a strong ward, but
I'm gonna go with it. I guarantee you the forty million five episode show
versus the forty million small, lower budget Daredevil movie, You're gonna make way
more profit on the Daredevil movie. I guarantee that can at least break even,
and then you're gonna put on Disney Plus merchandise. Like I think if
you make it like John Wick style, you could get at least one hundred
million. That's great. That's like doubling it, and so that might cover
advertising and then twenty million on top. Like, I just don't think the
forty million is stuff that that does like it's better. It's definitely better.
No Disney plusure, especially now, should be costing that. But I feel
like even now when they go and say, okay, if we say,
hey, we've lowered the budgets, we've got it down. When we're not
in the eight nine digits, forty million, okay, that's great. What
did it get us? Though? You know, and I do get it
as well. As we've talked about many times, this was in the era
where Chappick was there and FIGI got the edict to hey, content, content,
content, get as much stuff out there as possible. Right. Some
people downplay that, and sure you can say that that's not excuse, bake
the content better. Fine, but that's what was the cars that were dealt.
So I'm interested in going forward, not iron Heart or God didn't they
shoot another Agatha because those could be outrageous too. For me, it's Daredevil,
and even Daredevil that's a bad one too, right because they they're reshooting
a lot of it, so that's gonna be a balloten budget. And again,
even though as much as I love Daredeve, I go, is it
worth it the dual whole show and do the reshoot stuff like that? Or
maybe you just made a banger movie, you know, so we'll see,
look at this one here, just keep coming back to get me. We'll
see. But I still think those budgets are insane, especially to me.
That is only three and a half. Let's round up four million lesson Game
of Thrones. Like I said, Game of Thrones at all these actors,
massive set pieces, and also was the biggest show in the world. When
people talk about Game of Thrones, and when it was like it's getting this
big budget, everyone kind of accepted it because it was like, oh yeah,
it's getting that because it is the culture phenomenon right now. A show
getting three million lesson that like per episode. I know the reporters there happened.
Number is great. I still have not met any one of my personal
life that as meant, we were talking about this last time with my sister
and boyfriend had no fucking clue what echo was because we're talking about what are
you watching? What are you watching? I was trying to get them watch
Jury Duty because we're watching the bear watch Jerry Duty don't recommend that great show,
So I don't know. We'll see. We'll be right back. Some
trailers and then it's wrestling and we're back. So let's talk about these trailers.
So I'll list them off here. We got Ghostbusters, Frozen Empire,
The Ministry of Ungentle Ungentlemen to the Warfare, Terrible Tighter, Ricky sa Nikki
Macolate, and Monkey Men. So I'm going to answer Maddie's question, and
that's what you knew. When you're on Patreon at any tier, you get
to sending questions to the newscast to this episode or anything of reviews on there
and say, hey, talk about this, you know, and I will
happily talk about it and we will as well too. So any tier do
that we really appreciate it? He asked. Out of those ones that I
listed, what is the ranking from like highest to lowest as far as my
projects or the projects that I'm interested in, my high levels. So I
will give it to here. All these trailers, but one I think we're
great. I think one was good, but it's it was good for me,
great for the world world. So I'm going for the bottom. It's
Ricky Syiniky at the bottom. We'll get there, Ghostbusters, We'll get there
immaculate. Uh uh. And then the Ministry of a un that fucking title
man is gonna get me. The Ministry of Ungentlely Warfare. I'm just gonna
call it the ministry from now on. I'm not gonna fucking butcher that war
embarrass myself every single time. I have enough problems with how I speak.
You want me to try and say ungentlemanly five times in an episode? No,
the Ministry We're going with that, The Ministry of Warfare that second,
and then monkey Man's number one. All these trailers other than Stannikki and Immaculate,
I had not seen Till's cast because I was putting them off just because
I want to watch them fucking monkey man man uh that I'd I'd heard people
going nuts for this, and it's tough because everyone likes dev Pattel. I
think as an actor and a person, and I think people when they like
a person and it's like, oh, they're directing something, people get really
giddy because they're like, fuck, I love everything this person does. They're
gonna be a movie, TV show. I mean to love this too.
There's many people I love Sean Benn. He ain't great director. There's many
actors directors out there that are great or sorty, many actors that are great
at that, but they can't do the other thing right. So for me,
it was like, I always take it with a grain of salt when
it's their first project, not the other projects. Like Jordan, people would't
improve himself the first one because like, oh, people just want to be
excited for them, right, And that's fine, great, But then I
watched a trailer. Now here's the thing. This Depotel's first movie, of
course, right, he's been in the industry since he was a fucking young
and he's worked with some of the best. He has like I'm not gonna
say an unfair advantage, he has a trained advantage where even something like myself
as a director, like I've you know, studied film stuff like that,
I can never achieve with Deppatel could because one, I'll say budget, but
two just because he's been the game for song, right. But what I
like about this trailer looks like he's been the game and he's soaked it up.
This does not look like a first time director to me as far as
is this scope, the scale, and what's so interesting about this is there
is definitely the John Wig vibes, but there's also this like aura of almost
what I wish echo was. There's this like this ancestry like living up to
expectations almost not not supernatural would be the bad word, but spiritual, spiritual
thing. And it doesn't look like there's any gonna be any supernatural power stuff
like that, but it feels very much like, Okay, there's things in
this culture, whether it be his family, his friends, his religion,
around certain myths and man, that action looked great. That's John Wick's part
they take times to make some jokes that actually hit that. Nickidi Minajmal was
all right, but for me it was like, Okay, I thought he's
just meaning just a John Wick movie, but this looks so much more than
that. Then the humor is of course, like I said, I wasn't
even expecting that. For the most part, it was good. But to
me it was some of these shots, some of this it looked very very
personal. Where that's some of my issues with John Wick. Where one four
I think do that two and three get too much into the world building and
the continental and the fights. I love it when it's a personal story,
same thing as Mission Impossible three. That's why it's my favorite. It's a
personal Ethan Hunt story. This looks like kay, it is a hit man,
assassin whatever, going out killing people, cool action, seeing some high
jinks, but it is a personal venture. It is close to home for
this character. This thing fucking sold me. Man. I was like,
like I said, I was thinking, people are over hyping this just because
everyone loves Dev and Dev is good. I'm not trying to downplay him.
Does fucking amazing. Many watch Amazings right, of course, like some dog
everything, But go watch Green Night Man. That guy he is, I
would say, maybe he'll be on the actor tournament we're gonna do here for
trust told you. I think he's definitely one of the most underrated lists right
now. People do not give him enough credit. And what I do like
and here's the pros and cons, because same thing for us over here a
geek. First, we know, kay, what is the like? What
can we do good? What can we not do bad? Or what can
we do bad? And how can we do that with him? With it
looking like he could be a great director now or on his way to become
one. He also already knows his strengths and weaknesses as an actor, and
it just seems like this trip is nothing but his strengths. So he looks
like a fucking million bucks. This thing man, this whole monkey man aspect.
Some of the visuals reminded me, and not just because of the culture,
but it reminded me of r R. Some of the slow motions,
some of the fight scenes, which I appreciate. So yeah, I'm all
for this. Yeah, I could see Charlotte Cooper hopefully back. You haven't
seen him in a bit there, Uh yeah, this looks Yeah, this
is looking real good, better than I would have thought from what I had
heard, And I love the story that it was going to Netflix, and
I think it was because of some culture aspects in the movie that Netflix didn't
want to release it, because they didn't want to Fencer and Peel Yet Da
Da Jordan Peele heard this thought he's either seen the either seen the movie,
or seen enough to know this should be on the big screen. He got
his company April fifth. At first, it's like, oh, I'll see
because like we got so many that's what I thought could be right. I
have to see The Beekeeper this week because it's on vod and I said I
would watch for the boys there. I was on the review. They just
don't me, Oh you gotta watch, so I will get to it.
But I just thought, oh, could this just be a cool action with
Dev Patel and I would watch that because I like Dev Paateel and if it's
a cool revenge flick, I'm in. But this looks much more. This
looks more like when people say john Wick. Yes, but it looks like
more like john Wick four where it is an action epic. So I'm gonna
be there. I'm seeing this in the theaters. For sure, there'll be
a review. I think of some point where it's on trash Told You,
or if the group wants to, or if it's a mini review, whatever
it may be. Yeah, this looks fantastic. So that's number one.
With the bullet number two, let's go to the ministry. So I'm love
Guy Ritchie, love his early career. I've said this before where I don't
know where the stopping point was. Maybe it was Man from Uncle, I
don't know. There's just a point where, other than Aladdin, I stopped
watching Guy Ritchie movies, and I don't know why. I think it's just
that he is putting so many out and there was enough that looked like fine
to me. This does look a little bit at times where Okay, we've
seen certain aspects of this before in his other movies, so it's not like,
oh, it's completely new. And even then he's only putting out movies
like every two years. Yeah, oh Rock and Roller, Man, I
think I stopped. I never saw King Arthur, saw lad, I never
saw a Gentleman Rathaman, Operation Fortune Covenant. I've never seen any of these.
Uh, but there's I think with me, it was definitely the actors.
But it was also a great seeing calvil a role like this. He's
like he stretched his comedy chops a little bit, but not to this extent
and to this extent where it's like, oh he can do it. There's
other times where people do it and you go, ah, just stick to
the jokes here and there, but don't don't make this your new wheelhouse thing.
Calvill was looking on Hinge in this. I was like, this is
what I want to see. Richardson is in this? Who else? There's
another good actor in there, maybe a female, let's see. But it
did it and I like the aspect, just like, okay, it's what
is the fucking synops? Here? A British military recruits a small group of
high skilled soldiers to strike against Nazis forces behind Emeny linees during World War Two?
Great? Perfect, Oh, Damian Lewis is in there. That's great.
Isaac Gonzalez, there was some Henry Golding's in here. It's fucking stat
cast. I thought there was somebody else in here that doesn't look like they're
showing it here, but uh yeah, the Cavils performed, like that's what
how he said? Six movies in five years is that true, because I
thought I just counted out that he had two every year. Let's see here.
And that's the thing. I like Sherlock Holmes, Love Snatched, Love,
rock and roller lockstock dolls. Try to say that ten times fast,
lockstock and loaded barrels. Like I liked Doll's work. I really liked Man
from Uncle. I just like it fell behind. So let's see King Arthur
twenty seventeen, Aladdin twenty nineteen, The Gentleman nineteen twenty twenty one, Wrath
of Man, Operation Fortune, and The Covenant. That's seven. Yeah,
that's and that's so that is a lot. Yeah, I guess you're right,
Spo. That's a lot of movies. And that's why, just like
they kept coming out, and for me they did. Some of the other
ones looked like lesser versions of his great stuff, but kind of. And
the other thing that helps with those old ones was like some of the cast
was fantastic like this. So I think I've said this before where I'm gonna
make it a mission too. I want to rewatch Man from Uncle. So
I think I'm gonna start there. I'm gonna skip a lad and then I'm
gonna do a rewatch or a first time watching of some of this other stuff.
Superad Mike says, uh, you gotta watch The Gentleman Traps. Okay,
I will. What is that is that one looking like Statham? And
I love Statham too, like I was a big like it just felt like
Stathum guy Ritchie. It's like I left them in whenever what rock and roll
like in the twenty in the aughts, right, It's like, Okay,
that's good. Fucking loved crank Man. Crank was my jam transfer. I
see anything with Stathan in it, So yeah, I think it's some that
I catch up watch. Maybe i'll e've vntur in the King arthur Man.
But this trainer look great, looked like tons of fun. And for me,
the cast in general's good. But Cavill's what's making me really get back
on this guy Richie training, Like, Okay, I want to see this
where before it's like, okay, maybe a little Vincent repeat. I'll get
back to it. May I'll do you ranking, but we'll see. That's
the plan. I also plan to watch every Martin SCORSESEI movie rewatch. And
there's a couple I haven't seen before Killers and that did not happen because podcasting
life in general, but maybe I'll get to it. So that's number two.
Number three, A maculate. I have it here because a maculate could
be my favorite of this. I just don't know where it's gonna go.
So it's Sidney Sweeney playing a nun and she's pregnant, and so they're doing
the whole Mary, you know, virgin Mary thing, which I appreciate.
I'm not a religious guy, but I do like plays on religion and those
biblical classic epics stories. Right, So I think this is smart in a
horror movie in this day and age. Okay, I think it's a day
and age we I'm wrong, but I don't think it matters too much.
This girl says she's pregnant, where there's enough jokes right even about Mary,
I like, hey, was she a virgin? Did she do something?
If that happens, you know, we all heard it? Right with this,
This to me looks like it could go not two ways. I don't
think it's gonna be bad. I just think that this could be a horror
movie that at the end you were all talking about, could be a top
tier on or it might just be a eh that was all right, Uh,
but there are some good imagery. There's that one moment where I'm guessing
because they're thing might be a second coming of Jesus or whatever, it would
be clearly maybe she's going to labor having some labor issues. There's like blood
or bed she's had, like a spotted bed, and then someone's just fucking
in the bed, like smelling and like sucking up the blood because probably it's
like, you know, the blood of Christ or whatever like. And then
there's one moment where she's asleep and then there's somebody with a knife and that's
the same thing. It's like, is this gonna be supernatural stuff? Is
this gonna be just psychological as far as like people are fucking with her?
Because that could just be somebody trying to kill this kid, whether it's someone
that's like a Satanist, whether this is somebody that believes she's lying, because
maybe she is. We don't know what this could be. It looks like
it has lots of potential. And this is the Sydney swinging that I want
to see. This is one because I remember just before I watch it for
you, I started watching it for you, like, uh, episode three,
it was episode two whatever or episode one whenever. It's the bathroom meme
right of her against the door and her bang it. I saw that all
over my timeline and everybody was saying a variation of it. But it's like
she needs to be an ariast, she needs to be in a horror movie.
This looks like whoever heard that? Or so I was like, yeah,
we should do that? Is scratching it it because it looks like she's
doing a lot of acting in here, and not the fucking Madame Web anyone
but you where it looks like this like Sydney Sweeny the Star, And that's
what I I'm curious how her career is gonna go because I feel like she
could be a female version of Matthew McConaughey, where McConaughey when he was younger,
did things like if you do a few to kill, all time to
kill that were more serious, and then he got pulled away in the more
mainstream stuff and it made him seem not as a good an actor. I
have not seen that Web yet. I've not seen anyone but you from people
I trust, Like, that's what it feels like that almost those acting seals
like go away in those movies. Right, I'll judge amount of web and
i'll judge anyone but you and I see it. But from the trailers from
people I talk about, they're like, that's not the same person we thought
she could be. So I am worried. But her and this, I'm
looking very forward. So I could see this as the movie ranking the number
one out of these five. But the trailer also seems like I could get
B level schlocky and we'll see how it goes. Let's see Ghostbusters for a
was an empire. To me, this was a good trailer. I've said
this before. I'm not a Ghostbusters fan, but it was a good trailer.
It feels very much like the Force Awakens again. I the way they
did the last Ghostbusters where they didn't show the ogs, and this time they're
showing all over. This is exactly myitch of why when we hear the rumors
of Sony wanting to do another Knowing Home movie with the three of the Spider
Man, that's why, because the same thing of this. You get to
all the trailers and setting up you know, oh, Bill Murray and Dan
Aykroy, like it's all coming like, oh, I can help well,
what about this. I haven't hung out the suit yet. You're getting all
these one liners where they didn't get to do that the first time because they're
keeping it a secret, right or you know, as a tease. Same
thing with Knowing Home. So when I saw this, I was like,
oh, yeah, this is what the Knowing Home you know sequel trailer is
going to be if we ever get the three Spidermen together, and you know,
they probably should pull that trigger at some point. I don't know if
before the ground level, but I digress. We talked about it last week.
For me, this looked good. Some of the cg's like a little
splotty as far as like I'm finally being splotty. But it's just it.
If some ghosts look good and some don't, that's gonna fuck with my brain
a little bit. Like I said, I don't love Ghostbusters, but I
think this was a great trailer for if you do love Ghostbusters. I think
I'll be seeing this open we I think before when there was multiple stuff,
I think it was like Mickey seventeen, I was like more med about it.
But now I'm like, Okay, I think I'm more open to it.
So I think it was really good trailer. I think there were some
jokes that land here. Paul rudds, I'm liking that it's gonna be more
a part of the team going around this time. Even the team's more a
part of the team. So yeah, it looked like a good time.
It looked almost more like Ghostbusters three than any of them, right, because
you had the reboot with Kristen Wigg I'll say that wasn't it. And then
this last one where it was a sequel, but it was like in the
world of the World where this is the whole gangs together. I'm not saying
the og character is gonna be there starting to finish, but they're gonna be
in a lot more than the other one. So interesting. Oh and then
finally, oh god, what the fuck is the movie called Ricky Staniki no
comment? No, uh, this dropped. There's a preview. It's John
Cena on Zach Gaffron. It's Zach Effron with a couple other actors and they
use this guy named Ricky Sticky as their best friend. They say it gets
cancer stuff like that, and go out and get ship face go to Vegas.
So they make up a best friend for like twenty years to get out
of stuff right, and then something happens where someone calls them on it and
they realize, hey, we got to get some proof here. So they
go to hire an actor, and that actor, John Cena, he looks
like he's some male strip or something like that. If you have seen Vacation
Friends, he is playing that exact same character where he is not cognizant that
he is rude or over the top. For some reason, people really like
him, but the main characters don't. Even the stuff in Vacation Friends where
it's like he talks like it's like you gotta be careful with my boss is
like okay, okay, and then you know he does some stuff to screw
up, some stuff to be better. I think maybe in Vacation Friends,
I think there's a segment with the boss, but it's also like the Parents.
It's that stuff you've seen before. I'm not saying I'm gonna hate it.
There was some stuff that looked like it'd be alright. I think Efron
and Sina could have some good chemistry. I will watch this, even though
it was in theaters. I don't know if I would have saw it,
but I would have saw it when it came to streaming. I like the
people in here. It's more just a disappointment. I'm fine with Sena because
Sina this makes sense. This is the stuff he should be doing. For
the most part, he can do some action, but calmedy think where he
fries, he fries, he thrives. Efron, though we'll get to it
next week when I talk about the Iron Claw, but a mini spoiler easily
the best performance of his career by far. I'd have to see, like,
who I didn't do an Oscar's thing, right, let's see Oscars.
Oh, I don't care. Fuck. I didn't say that because I always
say I don't say something's snubble unless I can take someone out, or I've
seen the performances. I've seen my show, and I know Cooper got nominated,
and I would easily swap out Cooper for Efron in a fucking heartbeat,
great soul crushing, heart beating, breaking whenever you want to, I perbly
call it. He's phenomenal in iron Claw. And I have said this for
years, I think since the start of Geek first, because then we just
talked about Efron where he goes to and from we saw a Bundy movie,
though, Oh, this could be a he has a terrible agent or he
picks terrible things, and I thought after Iron Call that might change. Now
this is different at least because this was filmed before or you know, before
it came out. So maybe the hope is now, hey, people really
responded me in Iron Claw, let's go that route. But this is not
what I wanted to see. I was hoping that Iron Claw was the changing
of the career. I was hoping he was gonna pull McConaughey and go,
you know what, I'm done with this type of shit, like, get
me in some better stuff. Might get a chuckler too, But this is
not what he should be doing in my opinion, and I think his his
agent is just out to fucking ruin. I'll say it ruined his career because
I think Zach Efron, for how talented he actually is, he is like
Bizarro Pattison passes starting Twilight. Oh he's a Twilight guy. Efron's oh the
high school musical guy. Efron. He changed people's mind the sense that he
did raunchy Calmed. He's like, oh, oh yeah, he is funny.
But I don't think he gets credit for being a great actor where passed
and has gone around where that guy could win an Oscar one year. Right,
I don't think Efron's there. I don't think he's taking that seriously and
I don't think the roles he's getting could do that for him. So it's
time for a change, Zach. If you're out there, dump your team.
You like to go to Johnston who she saw the Madam Ab trailer and
went, fuck, this was a mistake. Fuck they lied to me.
This is on the MCU. I'm done with this. I'm done with this
Asian, Zach, you gotta do the best, you gotta do, you
gotta do it's right. Because even Ted Bundy I was like, Okay,
maybe he doesn't got it, maybe it's not a project thing, maybe it's
just him. But the iron claud to me showed like no, he he
has it and he could have more of it, but he They just gotta
gotta make that change, you know. So we'll see, Oh, okay,
we're gonna take our last ad break and this is the wrestling portion.
So if you have no interest in wrestling, you can bow out. Uh.
If you do, it's gonna be a fucking wild one. So buckle
up. And even if you don't like wrestling, maybe you should because hey,
if you watch Netflix, heard Vince mc man, it's worth it's hold
right back. Oh and we're back. So fuck I don't even know where
to start. This was another reason why we last week and I almost did
just an Oscar this fucking hair. I almost did just an Oscar wrestling cast.
I just didn't get around to. It's tough. It's it's one of
those things where as I said, life's busy, the filming is busy,
and as we've said anytimes, I have no problemmitting it. We hadn't you
know, CPMs and downloads and stuffer down episodes don't you know make as much
as they used to, especially So it's just one of those things where it's
like before I could have the time, and then you know, say,
okay, well I can make this time because I can make this amount.
If I don't make the same amount, it's hard for me to set that
time aside. Right, So that's why I always do a trast told you
love doing it, but you know it goes and ebbs and flows depending on
viewership and CPMs and CPM's brutal for the past few months. I'm hoping super
Bowl kicks that up and everything. Hunter Iggy, you can go back to
the beginning I talked about Supergirl. I don't care about any of the backlash.
It's I get why people liked Kaye, but it's new universe and you
move along. It's I don't know, it's it's it's just like a geek
controversy thing. It's nothing that's to me actually serious. I put energy into
actual controversies, like the one're gona talk about with Vince, not with oh
Sasha's out and bubblah. It's like, I don't you know it. I
know people might make the opinion like, oh, well they cast Latina actress.
It should be that way. If you feel that way, great,
I don't the same way. I can feel Supergirl could be black or Pakistan
or Australia and like isious now, but like, this character to me doesn't
matter. I don't think they're staking a step back for it. So anyways,
big man, is that where I started? I started the banned,
I started rumbled, I started punk. I feel like I'm gonna have to
rapid fire this stuff. Netflix still happened last week. Interesting to see how
that plays out very with the deal, having that like at five years we
could cut you, but then at ten years we can hold you on for
ten years. I'm very curious to see Netflix is the big fish, that's
the way to go. But I'm very curious to see what does a streaming
What is a show like RAW that's been on the air for thirty years at
the same age as me, that's usually at least had around two million people.
I'll say two million because people watching out for the fact, but at
least two million, sometimes you know multiple million. The attitude air, I
think they're close up in the tens and stuff. You know, like wrestling,
whatever you think about it, tons of people watch it. What happens
when you take a show like that that's been consistently there and take it off
the air for even half a decade, Yes, the wrestling audiences will follow,
But do you get less of exposure? Do you get less of the
random LOOKI loo coming in and tuning in? I don't know. For me,
it's great because we're gonna get in Canada. Raw smacked down on the
pay per views and I think even next see perfect deal For me, like
that's great. I'm very curious how it's gonna go smack down still on TV
and know they're probably gonna make up some mumbo jumper like the mousewatch sports thing
or live content on Netflix that the who knows that I'm watching with open eyes.
Uh, they span it as like I know if people tried to spin
as like they doubled their deal. They didn't double the deal. They went
up like twenty or thirty percent, which is still good, but they tried
to spin it as you can see stock going down multiple times. People snuffed
that out. Stocks going down for all the reasons too. And I guess
I'll wait to that part at the end because if there's any people that don't
want to listen to stuff about sexual assault or anything like that, that's your
time to tune out. So I'll let you know, of course. So
that's your trigger warning. Excuse me. So that's interesting. The Netflix part,
rumble, I thought it was a good show. They're not a great
show. I don't and that's fine. They don't need to have great shows
right now. I'm not saying you can't, but like it's it was not
bad enough for one. Oh my god, to me, aw is a
situation where okay, ratings are a little Ratings go back and forth with aw,
they are not having a million things, but they're sitting at that like
eight fifty to nine hundred, right, but they're tenants. They gotta build
some better shows booking wise, excitement. Why so that's where I say,
hey, peer review, you gotta kill it, right. You're in a
stage where you gotta kill it and make good decisions. WW could afford some
fumbles, and this wasn't even a fumble. This was just a solid,
overall good show. The Women's Rumble I think was great from nineteen and on.
I think the beginning had a lot of sloppiness, whether it was miss
spots or just there's certain people that are maybe like Maxine Dupre, where it's
like, ah, you you're just not at this level and it sticks out
when you're in the Rumble and you gotta do these type of spots. Jordan
Grace I purposely got off Twitter for the wrestling side, I think the day
before because I started to see the whole like, this is who's backstage,
this is who's there. There's so little surprises in wrestling. I like to
be surprised. So Jordan Grace, the TEENA Champion coming in and being in
that that was really fun. And she looked fucking great. She looks so
great that I promise you WWE will sign her win her contracts up next summer.
She looked better that she had a great showing, and she looked better
than I wouldn't say majority, but at least half of the talent that WW
had, And she has an impressive look. Yeah, I've not seen a
bunch of wrestle. I've seen enough to know that she's good, but there's
just something now where it's like, man, she feels like she's just fully
put together. So I'd love to see that in the future. But yeah,
from nineteen on, I thought they had a lot of good memorable spots.
I thought they had a lot of clever spots. I thought they had
a good lot intensity moment things. Jade Cargill, they fucking hit a home
run. You know, she is already a star. Whatever people like weird
Alays want to say, oh AW fumbled her. They made her into a
big star. She was like fifty into Like, if AW didn't book her
the way she was, she wouldn't begin that big highlight in WWE. But
she rose to the ability she looked a little nervous when she came in,
but when she got that ring, she fucking snapped out of it and delivered.
And I hope that her training and stuff goes well because I think she
could be a big star and she's great on the mic. She has such
a presence. But they hit a home run. They hit a home run
so much to the point where I thought they were actually gonna maybe give her
the win for a split second, like, man, they might, because
what a fun stat that would be, right first of a TV match,
you win the rumble. I don't think that's ever happened. So yeah,
no, it didn't happen. I was gonna say Rondo, but I guess
she just came out after, So yeah, it's uh. The women's one
was really good. That felt like if the whole rumbles like that, that
could have been an all timer. But to me, it was just the
ending. Lots of great spots, lots of dynamics, you know, live
being back is great Bailly and the wind very well deserved. I don't know
if she's gonna get the main event WrestleMania. We'll talk about that. I
think she should because obviously, again we'll get there Rollins and Punk is off.
That was gonna be the main event night one. I know that.
I'm of two minds where we and Becky was supposedly this was the train of
thought, right or the rumor real fuck rumor mill It was gonna be Rham
Becky right, and then it was okay, Punk's here, so we're gonna
do Sef and Punk because that's the big money match, right for many reasons.
And then you know, Punk gets hurt, which we'll get into.
But then you gave it to Bailey. So I feel like they gave Bailey
the Rumble win because like, well, the women aren't gonna wrestle any so
let's give Bayle this winning and she can go on like second last or something
like that. Right. I bet that's just me speculating. If they knew
Rawlins and Punk wasn't happening, they would have done, uh, Becky winning
the Rumble. I really do, because then you can say, well,
that's the main event. Because I am old school, I talked about the
discord s pubs. I like least titles possible. I still wish there was
just one world champion. I know they did the whole because all they needed
seth to have a title so people are there weekly because Roman doesn't work weekly.
No, you know what they should have done, fucking made them lose
last year and then Cody would have been here the whole time. I like
the one. I like the traditional unless there is a major match like Shawn
Michaels versus Undertaker, Streak versus career, something so big rock for Cusina,
you have the rumble person go on last. That's why I'm hoping Bailey gets
it. She deserves it. I think Ria will do the main event at
some point. They've still not really done a main feud program on the main
roster with Riha and Becka Bianca. To me, that is like the Rock
and stone Cold of this generation for the women. They should have multiple wrestmating
matches, so I think you could main event wrestling with them easily. So
Ria, I think we'll get her chance. So that's why I say give
it to Bailey, and it's like a feel good people love Bailey the same
way as last year. The tag team titles won't last. I think with
Night one they can do that. It's not like a really Bailey, it's
like people fucking love Bailey and guess what her and EO can fucking go.
So it's like, I have all the faith in the world that I really
hope they get it last. But I think they'll go to Rie because like
real hat right now many ways right, yes, she's always still the thirst
being, but just like in all of wrestling, not just WW in all
of wrestling for New Japan aww B, I can at least say she's I
think top five for over maybe even top three those reactions, so I'm hoping
she gets it. But either way, Bailey well deserved h fantastic. She's
been one of the best. She's held it down for years with the XTA,
with its pandemic era. She deserves that win. So uh, TK
stocks going up again Bailly Mania is a draw. So yeah, well I
didn't see that the stocks are going up again. So what they yesterday they
took like what was a massive dive and then what they're going Well, I
guess they would go up though, right because I remember that chart in the
discord it was like they're up here and then it was like a big one,
So I guess it would go up. Maybe getting rid of Vince and
stuff will start to help, But uh, I would have loved to see
Tiffany hit her moon silt because it's amazing. But the Swanton is great,
says s Bubbs. Yeah, even then, though, I still think Tiffany
got a really great showing. I'm less familiar with the new NXT kids.
I was a Black and Gold and then also with the Black and Gold,
Kevin Owens, Finn Balor like knocking More. These are people I saw on
wrestle them roh. I knew them before they got there. Where now there's
a lot of people where I don't know or they're just PC hires, right.
But I think she had a great showing. I think she proved like,
yeah, she's gonna be a future player. I'm not gonna talk about
any of the other stuff like Kevin Owens and long Pol's fine. I've actually
liked the DQ finish though. That was creative. The Roman stuff I'm over.
Even the crowd felt like they were pretty much over it, like they
popped for some stuff, but it were We're wave. I know they always
talk about like, oh we're not on the ninth inning, yet we're way
past the ninth inning. We're overdue, We're an overtime for this story.
For me, I'm I'm personally done with it. The Roman Reigns match now
with like that, that became my bathroom. I'm gonna get some food match
because I just know what's gonna happen. And I thought the match was like
good enough and it picked up a little more towards the end, but then
they do the fucking solo spot and it's just like, I wouldn't be mad
at the solo spot if they did it every once in a while, but
it's just every match, it's just so uncreative. It's just so fascinating that
you have Hall of Famers, people that have worked in the Attitude era,
and just the every like every ending is lol solo Sokoa. You know,
it's like cool and that's where hopefully that happens got Mania and then Cody gets
the win. But yeah, it's just it's lost as juice. It really
has from think about last year when they man invented the show because it had
to and they turned on Sammington. Now they've made way too many errors.
I still think him keeping the title was an error because half of his no,
not even half for what he was hearing. Majority of the storylines were
about family not the titles, so the title is almost like an afterthought.
And then what he has la named this this Fatal four Way, which I
didn't watch all Speck now watch here and there. I agree with you all
that the lead it was kind of a little disappointing, but I just think
it's like stuff with the Rock, stuff, with the USO stuff, with
Solo, you don't need the title, and I think that gets it more
juicier too. So I think I'm not gonna say everyone's done, because I
know pe love Roman, but I just feel like more than ever, people
are starting to like, okay, let's let's wrap it up here. So
and I'm definitely at that point again. Cody should have won this year.
Cody won the Men's Rumble. I thought the men Who's Rumble was all right.
I thought it was It was a lot of spots of a guy would
run in, hit one big move, and then they just go in a
corner and punch of people. There's people like Carmela Haesa came and did great
stuff, but there's just a few. And even then I remember he did
a couple of great moves and he was on fire, and then he got
clothesline. They win the corner. They did a lot of throwing guys into
the corner. I felt like and I don't think it was the Brock thing
like him not being there because they just get Bron the spot. There's one
where Braun had a fantastic showing, so it wasn't without its showing. There
wasn't a bad rumble. We've trust me. Twenty fifteen, twenty fourteen,
we've seen. We've seen fucking bad rumbles. They can. A bad rumble
is the is the worst. It's not like when I make the joke about
popcorn or pizza and sex. It's like, well, you know, bad
sex is still good sex. No, a bad rumble fucking stings. It
is awful. It sits with you for years, you know. So I
supposed the shin guy was in there for twenty minutes and I don't remember anything
he did. Well, Bron was in there for five minutes. I remember
all. And that's exactly to the point. I don't share this same sentiment.
But online there's a lot of Jay Whoso's the Iron Man, but I
don't remember much he did, And then people go, well that's the Iron
Man, you staying there. I'm of two minds where yes, if you
stay in there the whole time, like the longest you are the Iron Man.
But to me, the classic Ironman performances are the lots of character arcs
in the middle and lots of they eliminate or just get like they just almost
eliminated and they're looking fucking exhausted. S pubs. Go watch Shawn's rumble when
he won it. One, go watch raise rumble when he won it.
Two, go watch there's one good rumble. I'd have to find the year
for you. But Ziggler where it's just like it's that like, oh my
God, like I'm fucking I'm done, I'm done, even gun through that
gun through last year. That's an iron Man one where Jay he was the
Iron Man, lived Morgan last year iron Woman. Like that's where's just like
you they look like they're fucking dead where Jay Uso was in there a lot,
but like I unfortunately remember Jimmy Moore, which that was a great spot
when he got their slaps Jimmy or Jay and then us other USO wants a
high five and Gun there just fucking pancakes. I'm so good. But anyways,
it just felt like they did not have as much mimorable spots and key
moments as the women's did, and even the women's was I think lacking some
in the beginning. So for me, it's not the surprise entrance. I
know some people get disappointed by that. I'm fine with surprise entrances. I
don't need the legends to me legends. I'm like, I'm fine with one
in there. There was years where there was like five to six. It's
like, hey, I don't need to see these sixty seven year old guys
come in here, do a couple moves, get thrown out, like you
know, and the padma you think, Like, I know, people didn't
enjoy that. I didn't care so much. I don't think you need to
do that. You could throw someone in. But at the same time,
it's not like somebody was going to win. It has spot right, so
but it comes down to Cody and Punk, and Cody gets the big win
for the second year in a row. So I do like that stat of
hey, you know, no one's sense and stolen cold. It's been over
twenty five years. I thought they had like even though that was my issue.
It went in Final six and then a Final four, and then the
final two and that's rest. But I'm not sure because some people said that
too, where it was just maybe the crowd, some of the people just
were tired or whatnot. It just felt like the hype was not there.
Seeing Punk doing a pedigree to Cody Rhodes that should have been a fucking huge
pop, and it got like a yeah, you know, like it was
did not feel like the finals of Royal rumbelefore what they were doing in the
match, and it just felt like somebody they were just together and they're just
fighting, and it's like, hey, where's like the drama here? You
know. I feel like Cody and Hunk tried to do that, but he
was a little gassed and he was also injured. So now in retrospect to
go, they did the best they could. I liked the pedigree spot.
I like them not losing of Dusty's kid and then you get tossed out like
that's good. I miss that. We probably could have got like the heels
see him Punk, but we'll get there. As far as thank goodness,
he didn't win for multiple reasons, but yes, Cody wins. The dome
stadiums so tall that the sound doesn't carry a TV base. From what I
saw, that is true that the sound doesn't ricochet off the roofs, but
I'll give you multiple stadium WrestleMania's where there's fucking massive pops and you can hear
it. So it's like the crowds thing was still like even when you like
had the seam punk entrance and like on TV, it didn't really come into
like it's clobbering time felt off. So I just think that people were maybe
tired, And I think it was also just that the final four and six
wasn't the exactly right way the true back and tire punk spot I really liked.
But yes, Cody gets to win, And Frank says, I still
think Cody losing last year is the right call. Cody is an overall big
star now it worked, I don't think so. I think he is the
same, Like I don't think the loss made him a bigger star. I
know people also do this idea of like, well do they want to take
the title off Roman because WWE is having their their biggest year yet Rome's barely
fucking been there. Guy, Like, if you also look at them,
like, fucking our truth is moving the most murdered right now, like,
I don't. I think Rome reigns the bloodline has death last year. I
think you make that argument, it's definitely helped. I think this year from
restumating out of then I think that's like a lamp shading argument of like,
well, you can't take the title of Roman, and I don't think Cody's
big. That's like a and again, I don't have that answer right because
it's it's me playing a what F game? But I I don't think so.
I think the problem with this is the pop and the reaction is gonna
be less because I was talking about those Chris Evans on Twitter. The two
examples I will use is uh HBK and Michaels one and Rock and Sena one.
When the Rock won, I don't think nobody people definitely thought the Rock
could win, but I think everyone thought, okay, resume twenty eight.
The first match is seen in Rock once in a lifetime, right, Well,
Scena has to win, he's the future passing the torch. So when
the Rock won, it was a fucking shock and a huge pop. HBK
and Undertaker. I don't think I thought Michaels would break the streak, but
the match was so good it convinced you jump to the pre The next years
for both of them, it was a four. It was Undertaker and HBK
again Career versus Streak. Everyone just knew Sean's losing, and you can watch
that match. The crowd is not there like the first year Rock versus Scena
two for the title sena loss. The last year, everyone knows he's not
losing again for the title. The crowd was not there like they were the
year before. So that's where I'm saying that you can maybe are he's like
a bigger star, But I don't think it's to tenfold. I really don't.
People are still singing song, people still buying his merch. Even the
past two weeks he's not even been in the top ten for merch cellars.
It's been like Punk and Archers, So it's not like man like he sold
a bunch of merch before and after. I don't think there is a sign
where you could do that, where at least if he gets the title and
he becomes the guy, the full guy, you can go Okay, he's
really a bigger start. Now to me, that is the test. I
think the only test that if they wanted to see worked was hey, let's
give him a loss, which, again, as was talked about this week
with all the Vince shit, the word is that he was going over and
Vince stroll up that week it's a nah, let's keep it Roman. So
to me, this is the thing where I know people like the bigger star
argument when it's coming from the idea of Vince and that the rumor was that
Cody was gonna go over and Vince kind of changed it. Same thing as
like many people said that Monday night Row after that he ripped up all the
fucking scripts and said let's do this, Let's do this. I'm not gonna
trust a Vince McMahon idea. We've seen the much past decade where that can
go right. And I do believe that narrative because it's just they None of
the story they had for Roman had anything to do with the title. Well,
Cody's squats squandered around. You could easily made Brock a title contender,
knock am More a title contender. You could have done a bunch of shit.
You had Cody both brands. So that's why I don't believe, and
I don't think it did make a bigger Star. I feel like it showed
that he could sustain it, which is good, but I'm not on that
case. And I think that's my problem with this year. Is he's gonna
get the win. They'll make it special, just like Sean retiring, just
like seeing a beating rock. But I don't think it's gonna have that same
oop. Now. It's not the same like last year where it's like,
hey, we want Cody to win, but they still might go with Roman
and they did a mistake in my opinion, that was like that win.
Listen to that fucking crowd. I think if Cody wins, that's one of,
if not the best. May restume that crowd when Cody and Sammy make
their Cody, Cody, Sammy and Koe make the save and everyone thinks he's
about to get the win, that crowd was fucking rocking. I don't know
if they can get there again to that level. I could be wrong,
and that's where I want to be wrong, because I want that for Cody.
I don't want the like one, two, three, yeah, yeah,
call you deserve it like I don't want that. I want that fucking
raw emotion, like this guy fucking did it finally, and he did that.
But it's kind of like watching a movie where you know the ending,
right. So that's my thing where I just feel like we kind of wasted
a year. In my opinion, I feel like you could have Cody have
a whole year run and we get Cody and Punk next year. I will
I'll leave that. I'll always have the opinion that they should have took him
the title off of him, because I think both Cody's stories would have been
better at the title and Roman stories would have been the same or better without
the title. I don't think you could go either way the pop. I
will reserve judgment, but as somebody that was in the law, I was
live there for seen and taker both of them, and I was sorry take
her and Michael's both of them and seen a rock for both them. I
know what the crowds are like, we'll see, Uh it would be a
huge pop if Solo turns on Roman at maybe I feel like it's leading to
that. I really hope not. Fuck, that'd be awful. I don't
want Cody unless it's like to equal something else out like last year where it's
like the USO's come out and then Sammy and Ko come out. That's fine.
If it's a one on one match and Solo decides this is the time
to turn on Roman, that's where you'll fucking make Cody dea in the water.
Cody beating Roman by like cheating in a sense. No, man,
that's bad shit right there. So I hope that doesn't happen. I suppose
as well, codering to Seth rawlins on Monday. Roman's not the guy.
I'm the guy. Yeah, Seth's just always gonna be the brides made unfortunate,
right, And I don't think that, oh we already know Roman is
catching a rock bottom from special guest referee the rock Again. I'm fine with
it if other people are cheating, but if it's just like how people suggested,
well, oh Cody could win money in the bank, It's like no,
no, no, no, we needs to beat him as clean as
possible. Even then, I still think that he should still beat him clean
and that should be the end of that story. Finish the story, right,
But that's the way. But yeah, Seth is unfortious. The bride's
made, never the bride. In my opinion, I love Seth. He's
definitely would be in my top ten of current guys just that. I well,
maybe he wouldn't because I fucking hate the gimmick. I like the past
few weeks that he's been toning it down, but I don't like joke or
Seth. But it's a put on. It doesn't feel natural, and I
think, you know, it's I didn't used to believe this, but I
believe sometimes it's just hey, people like to sing a song, you know,
the old school Seth roles. That's where that shit's at. So Cody
wins it, Hopefully we get Cody and Roman. Cody wins, let's fucking
move on and let's like start this new era up. And I'm very excited
for hopefully Cody get his moment. Now the guy, he's the fucking guy.
He's been the guy for a while. He was the guy. I'm
not saying I say he was the guy before he left WWE, but there's
signs of him being the guy, and they fucked that up. Like he
is the guy to lead. I know, people go, oh, well,
then when he wins, they're gonna turn him like Sina. Maybe,
But one, I think he's smart enough to do some change up things.
And two we don't know that because I think Cody's a very different type of
baby fait. In that universe where Cody got popular how he is right now,
Sina got popular for being an edgy rapper that's almost radar, and then
when he won the title, he became a PG act very different, right,
I get the punk torn triceps, Fuck, that sucks. I don't
have much to add there. It's just like, I'm not gonna be the
assholes. Let's say it's karma. Yeah, it's one of these things that
he did a bunch of in adv and people say, well, look what
goes around. I'm not gonna say that because I don't want to wish injury
and stuff on people. You know that that's not great. It sucks.
It's one of these things. I do believe that he needs to get better.
He needs to heal that take as much time, and you know,
people's bodies are their boys, So I'm not gonna tell what to do.
But like, in two years, he's been injured three times required surgery.
He's had been injured forty one percent of his return run. That's a sign
of his days are very numbered, and it fucking sucks. You could see
the two times he's cried that much that I've se seeing him is like in
the public, I'm sure when people passed away and stuff, but in wrestling,
when, uh, what was I gonna say when he came back for
AW, not even when he won the title w when he came back to
AW like debut for the first time there, and when he was leaving roh,
he was crying like a baby here and good for him, And that
was almost a little good for me too, because it showed like, okay,
good, it's not maybe just all both the money, this is something
meaningful towards him, which I still thought so, but you never know,
because I still agree with some people like dies Chica, like sometimes it does
look like he's just not into this, and to me, I think that's
they give him a bunch of bolt points and old Punk will be like,
now, fucked, I'm not doing that. But he's playing balls like Okay,
I'll do this, and I just feel like sometimes you can just see
that was my problem with the Cody Punk promo last week, that people love
it, just like at times it was still I got hit this and hit
this, and you can tell there was like some stuttering and some awkward space
in between the time. But either way it sucks for a multitude reasons.
Him and Rawlins I think would have been great if they weren't one hundred percent
the story wise getting there, the story in the match, I think they
would have really delivered that could have easily been matched the weekend just on a
story wise they put in their minds together would have been great. So huge
bummer, and I really hope it happens next year. I agree with the
narrative of have punk when the rumble next year him and Cody, that's a
fucking huge match. Make punk turn on that heel shit. You know you
got your moment. I didn't get mine. Whatever you beat me in the
rumble, I was this close. But yeah, it's a bummer. I'm
always gonna be a punk fan. But barring nothing really bad happens. And
again, as I said, whatever side you're on, you can't no emit
that like the shit and aw some stuff was bad there, right, You
don't go around like get in fights, especially this age. It's like come
on, now, there's some stuff where it's like ah, but this guy
made me, like, you know, fall in love with wrestling. Always
gonna support me. He's one of my favorites, So that was a bummer.
I really want him to get that, even though, like again,
I'm gonna be that guy. If you're not the main event of Night two,
I don't think you're fully the main event WrestleMania because that's still the last
match they decide to go and last. Sure, there's Night one, but
I'm an old school guy where last match that's the real main event. But
then I would kind of, you know, break a rule and say,
oh, if you're look at the main event Sasha and Bianca, that might
be the best main event of all time. And that was Night one,
right, so just sucks. And then what do you do with everybody?
And maybe some people are asking questions here subs, who do you think is
beating Gunther? Drew retains against someone at someone saying the by God seeing Punk's
music, Drew McIntire, whole ship made him on the way out, that's
good business. Yeah, Drew's on fire, and I have to think that
she has a new contract. That's been the rumor that he doesn't. But
like the setup there, like they should keep true. He's on doing some
of his best stuff. I really don't know what they do here to me,
if it's I know, people go with Seth Gunther Seth Gunther. I
think the only way you do Seth Gumph is if Gunther is going over,
and I don't think he would go over in my opinion, he has to
lose the Icy title and then you have him go over because I just think
the double champion's weird. I think if he's icing world champion, I don't
want to see him unify the titles. I don't want to see him lose
the Icy title wall he has a World championship, because the person would be
like, why can't I have the world title either? Right? So I
don't know. As Punstrue doesn't have a contract like MGF doesn't have a contract.
Mgf's is different. Drew's legitimate. People have said that last week,
like he's not signed as far as they no MGFS, that fucker is definitely
signed. So we'll see. But Gunther, I don't want him in the
world title scene until he gets like he gets the fucking Mega Monster run,
you know, and then he doesn't lose till he lose the title like what
Roman's getting now. So I don't think it is Gunther. I'm not one
hundred percent on that though I don't think it is, and who do you
think would beat him? I think Zammi Ziy is always a good option because
people love Sammy. I think, fuck strap the rocket to Braun and give
it to him. You know, that's the thing where I get the value.
But with Brock, I am just over it, where like, oh
that was Brock spot. It's like, even without those allegations and stuff,
I would have much rather had Braun doing that because he shine AND's like good
new star. You know, how fucking Carmelo do it? Like that's where
I am Carmelo Braun Sammy. I thought Jay was a good pick too,
but I think people are right where Gunther or Jay's gonna, you know versus
Brother and everything. So I thought Jay worked, So I think there's lots
of options on there. But I just don't want him to have both titles
unless they unify them. But I don't also want them to unify them.
But at the same time, they have a lot of titles, so maybe
I don't know. ESBB says Night is beating Logan at MAINI unless things really
change, as people are saying, yeah, I don't, I don't see.
I know people jump to like la versus Seth. I just don't see
that, and I don't and I don't think that's good for Seth unless they're
planning to do at a heel turn, which I think he'll Seth is better
as a heel I think for the most I'm even crowd wise. I think
the times that he was a babyface, they fucked up so royally that people
are hard to find fall in love with Seth. And again I feel like
they're they're in love with this character of Seth and not so much like Seth
Rawlin's the guy, which you still have to be a little bit right,
So yeah, I wouldn't be I wouldn't be opposed. I don't want to
see the story. I want to see how we get there first and even
gun through too. Like the idea is right that they're gonna do the chamber
and that's who verse. Seth isn't there, like he has uh visa issues
with going there with Perth. So like, I don't think he is the
guy. And Ellie Knight, I'm potentially I like Ellen and l A Knight
a lot. Maybe Seth needs a break. I guess it could just be
no matter what it's Damien, but uh, I don't know. I still
wonder if Damien's gonna try to cash and to lose like Our Truth is gonna
I suppos just asked that. I think there's a chance Archer like fucks him
up or something. But at the same time, like Damien, I think
you could do one thing where someone beats set. It depends on Sev's timetal
right, if he needs time off, I think you have Seth go in
there. He gets beat in the people that beats himmits a vase, Damien
cashes it, and Damian gets like a mini run. So I think I'm
fifty to fifty on him being successful, but I don't think it's a long
run. I think Luckily Good Judgment Day has the heat, so that's good.
But I just don't think Priests has the heat. So yeah, they
got lots of options, and I don't think it's like losing Brock and Punk,
which sucks. Will never get Punk or Brock and gun therap, But
that happens, it definitely hurts it. It hurts the WrestleMania thing from being
an even bigger It could have been like a It still could be an all
time right, but this could have been like Night Run Rawlins and Punk and
Knights to Rowan Cody. That's a fucking that could be one of the greatest
night one Night two's ever. You know. That's that's all timer and now
you can't pounce up to the match quality make it Alzheimer, right, I
supposed says my famous fantasy booking is a Damien and gets told that money bank
twent before he has until the end of the night. He cashes it and
the new want Bank contract cashes it on him. That'd be really cool.
I like that, that'd be fun. They've never done that, They've never
done the night of they've never done they haven't done an announcement a while,
Like I'm challenging at this date, So I would love that. That'd be
a really fun idea. So yeah, it marked me down. Sucks for
Damian, But I just don't And this is why, like I don't know,
I don't think I've talked about this on these episodes, but I suppose
this is why I just don't like two titles Because for me, when I
look at Priests and I go, oh, yeah, he could have like
a run with the world title, but the w t oh no, he
couldn't run with that. That's why I like one title because to me,
the people that should win the one like that title should not be like,
oh, he could win a night and lose it, you know, and
not get it back to me. One title is very important. So we'll
see that also has has the briefcase gone for a whole year if it happened
yet? Yeah? Know it has, And I can't remember what the furthest
is. It might have been. It might have been Edge who wonted that
mania and then cashed it in in January like the year after. So I
think he was the closest people could fact check me, but I think he
was the longest. Sorry, So yeah, we'll see, but they'll figure
out. That's the good thing about having a stacked roster is you got lots
of options and then Evin stuff. I don't know. I don't got lots
to add here because there's not there's not anything to add, Like, it's
just as long. Like, I guess if you thought I was a shit
person, maybe you'd think I might have had some hot take to come here
and be like, oh Vince is in. It's like it's all alleged and
it's all gonna either go to court or probably be settled out of court,
So it's not gonna happen. That sounds like the word on the street right
now is, hey, does this woman decide to go to court and drudge
this out or does she maybe take some money in a payout or a settlement
or does Arimandel do that? Right? Ari Emanuel, that's the name who
knows for me is all speaking in the alleged term. If this was true,
it's not surprising. There had been like Milly Peop a couple of years
before, where hey, Vince has me an open marriage, not with Linda,
but like some of the stories we've heard could air on the side where
ah seems not great, right, and it sucked that he came back the
first time. I was purely for years just one of him gone for a
creative or reason. But this trump's this in so many reasons, as far
as like who gives a shit about creative and TV? Right? This is
someone's like and multiple other people's likely there's I can't remember the stat it's like
a he is twelve to fifteen million of other NDAs, So it's like there's
one NDA in two thousand and four, or two thousand and five to eighty
paid for, which was seven million now eleven point five million with inflation bigger
than some towns. Making the whole career that's fucked up. Like if you
know what this NDA is about, and then the other stuff there's, it's
all bad stuff. It's nothing good. The dynamics aren't good the way.
And again I'm not here to kink shame. You can read those and if
there's some stuff you're into there, that's completely fine. But it's all about
one consent and two the dynamics of the relationship and being an employer, and
even stuff like the alled showing stuff even though it's not true, like just
saying that, like right there, those texts are really bad, and that's
a good thing. In this day and age. You can prove if texts
are faked or not faked, like all that will come out, and that's
why I think it'll probably just be a settlement. But it is such a
it's a tough thing for me, luckily and not luckily, I shouldn't say
that. Unfortunately, with the stuff that came out last year, I've had
some more time to reconcile my fandom, and there's so many people involved and
so much of grown that it didn't like push me away from ww It is
harder in the sense of like vincement Mann definitely was that someone I looked up
to at times as far as like, man, look what this guy's done.
What a powerhouse. You know, even the shape he keeps himself.
And even though probably as I got older, larn hey, there's some there's
some chemicals there, but this is the god that created one the thing I
love the most, you know, like wrestling is up there with comic books
like when Batman. Like I've been watching wrestling since I was six months old.
I grew up with it. My family is from Calgary. I love
Stampede. They showed me w B I had fucking rock birthday cakes when I
was a little kid like that. This so much of the things I love
in my life are based on wrestling, and he created that. And not
all people are all bad, and they're not all good, but at the
same point, this is stuff where it's like it can't get the layers.
It's so bad, it's tough to watch, but at least with him,
for me, it's like he's on the background of it. It's tough to
like. I think Vince's performer was amazing, but now it's like I don't
think I can watch that stuff the same way, right, especially with some
of the stuff that character does very similar to alleged things this guy has done,
or just the mannerisms. Right, So, and then the stuff with
Brock that's not good. And again I was ready for Brock to be gone
creatively, but this is more than that. So you know, if this
stuff is true, you know, fuck him, get him out of there.
And you know they did the right thing, I honestly, and at
the end of the day, they're not doing the right thing. They're doing
the thing that's caused by money. Right. They still didn't act until sponsors
start pulling out, So don't get wrong. Like, same thing happen with
the Jericho stuff a couple of weeks and TK and then this, Like as
much as we want to love these people, there's still like that's why you
can't pull the more high ground you can pull the hey, they should have
did this better, this better, But like, hey, for the past
whatever year, if you were paying for the W network or Peacock, some
of the money was going into Vincent Man's pocket. And now all the stuff
we know and we knew some stuff beforehand. Does that feel good? No?
But do you want to watch the stuff you do? That's tough,
right, we talk about all the time. Are in the artist, same
thing you know Ben Wall talk about many times I can't really watch Ben Wall
matches. That was one that hit like And that's where this is at least
older as an adult. So much of this stuff, like Harvey Weinstein stuff
has happened that you're more prepared for it and not that I'm like, oh
whatever, I can watch wrestling now. No, it definitely is like a
like even some of the Sauty radio stuff that was like oh like like sometimes
there was times like can I watch this? But there's other people that you
hope that are not even if they knew some knowledge to know the vast how
bad it was. And there are other people that didn't know for sure,
didn't know right, So you don't want everyone just to go down and lose
their jobs and stuff. So it's not a black and white situation, none
of it. Like I know people want Triple A just head after that press
conference. Did he bungle it up? Absolutely? You don't open up with
saying Oh, it's been amazing, Like no one has a man like this
Like this puts such a black mark on the industry, the way that if
mcmhon's gonna be like Ben Wall, but they're already moving from the website and
like stuff like that, Like the fact that the name McMahon you could say
that and it's having black cloud over it for a very long time. That's
not good because that's the guy that crazed ww made wrestling as big as it
is. Not saying wrestling wouldn't be around, but he took it to another
level. That's not good. It's not a good week. He should have
been prepared. They should prepared him. And that's where I will say,
not that going Afterleh's head, but with people saying that he kind of is
nonchalant about it, that is a bad thing for whether it's just the vibe
back there or if he knew anything, because people say, hey, in
these reports I talk about how like the culture and the vibe and the way
trip by Jack was very much like that. And it's tough because he's grown
up. He's been in that for so many years, right, But it's
like I also can't I'm not gonna say, oh, he knew everything.
Yeah again he said dumb stuff like I haven't read the lawsuit, But that
does it. Either one, you're lying and that doesn't make sense because look
at the position you're in, you'd half free lawsuit. Or two, if
you've not read the lawsuit and you're in the position in how the fuck am
I supposed to trust you? Like it just it was so mishandled, especially
when Cody Road's given a better answer, that doesn't make sense right. But
at the same time, I'm gonna wait for more details, more investigation,
more study, because at the point of if they didn't know, or if
they just thought, hey, he's fucking around on Linda, or they have
an only relationship, whatever, it's not just a business thing. For Ori
am Manuel it is. But like for in Frame brings up like Stephanie leaving
makes a whole lot more sense. This is why, and Shane too,
This is why. For me, I'm not ready to cast them out of
like I can cast out Triple A, not casting, but I can go
to back ritribly John's comments and say, yeah, dude, like you gotta
be more cognizant of the situation. You gotta be better about this. Everybody
has to be better about this, even taking the rout of it's a legal
legal issue. I can't mention it. Multiple times Stephanie, Nick Cohn triple
Ah voted against Vince coming back. They voted him the first time, the
vote second time, he just came back. Stephanie left, came back,
left again when her father got back. To me, that tells you.
And I'm not saying like Tinfoil had the narrative of family king information. I
don't think that's out of the round possibility. Even Nick con like, I
really don't think that is. We've seen shit like that happen all the time.
We'll never know, but them voting against him and then Steph leaving,
coming, leaving coming, that shows that either they did know and they just
won't to matter there, which you can argue all day about the morality of
that, and that's like a whole different conversation, or just even know that
something was up and they didn't know the vast degree, but just knew someone's
up, they want to get a fuck out of there. To me,
that at least shows some way they were trying to push back. It's a
multi billion dollar corporation, people's jobs are online. Your career. I get
that they couldn't just maybe do something, make a move, right, you
have to do stuff like this, perhaps go behind the scenes. But to
me, the public displays of leaving and voting against them, to me,
that's I'm like, there's signs of like they're not like endorsing this. They
were just standing by the guy the whole time. At least that's what I'm
hoping for. Right It's a shitty situation. Man, You're fucking like even
if about half of this is true, this is your dad, this is
the guy who is the grandfather or kids like like fuck man, Like that's
I recommend this movie all the time. If you have never seen it,
go watch. We need to talk about Kevin. It's Till Swims. That's
when I fall in love with their career at time, and not so much
now. But I thought this actor, they got it. It's and it's
like minors spoilers, but I think it says in the synopsis, I think
it's just the way they showed in the movie you might not know right away.
Till Swinen plays the mother of a child who does like a school shooting,
and it is about how the fuck do you go on like you got
the scarlet letter everyone, like you're the mother of the kid that took a
bunch of people away from us. Now this is not that same amount of
it, right, and it's not the same as noun as ben wah.
But like, if this stuff is true and more stuff comes out, or
if it's proven true, or even if it settles, it's like and there's
been enough of it now to come up where just people are gonna resort to
this is true. You physic man would need the biggest smoke of his gun
to prove this not being true. So if it is true, it's just
like you got that last name and now it's just like hopefully people look past
and just go and they will time. I hate to say this, the
sooner Vince dies, people will move on. The more Vince is alive,
stick it around, that cloud will stay around and it will remind hey,
you're Vince's daughter, you're Vince's son, or you're Vince's grandson granddaughter. When
he's dead, people tend to move on. So it's not good. Luckily
again for them, they got lots of money, lots of them can hide
Their kids aren't gonna have the same type of schooling that our kids would have,
and stuff where it's like they had to go to school. They probably
did, but at the same time, they could have skipped a day or
go to private school. Not saying that's ideal. Your grandfather should not put
you in that situation, but yeah, it's just it's not good. They
made this smart move, but it was a business move. I don't know
if they would have made it if people didn't pull out. But and now
he has really no way to get back in. Never say never, because
it's a crazy fucking place, right and maybe something goes his way. But
I hope it's just moving on time. I hope there is an investigation,
and I hope there's more done, and I hope even if it is so
as a triple h and Stephanie, as far as hey, even if it's
a mistake, even if it's like, hey, I learned this, I
didn't know what to do. I knew it was going on. I didn't
know what to do because it look at this is my last point, and
this is where again where I go. It can't be black and white.
Where Tarantino, it's the same thing with Winstein, where he didn't know one
hundred percent, but he knew enough that he feels like a piece of shit
and Warrantley is a piece of shit for not doing anything to help those women.
Right. But at the same time, the dude has said, I
didn't know how bad was and I have so much regret for that. I
should do this, this and this, but I didn't, and I was
a coward, And he said that many times, like I just I don't
know if he's a coward, but he's pretty much the equivalent that, right.
Tarantino's different in these directories, oh man, And I would understand if
anybody triple a Stephanie Shane, Right, even wrestlers knew some of this,
and they'd say, hey, this happened, I knew it, didn't know
what to do. Fully regretful. Do you accept paulogy do you accept forgive
this? Maybe that comes up to the I beholder think it depends the situation.
But at the same time, if they also went, hey we investigated
this, you did this. You put an employee in a danger spot,
especially with Vince saying he knows somebody that makes problems and people go away in
the supposed text, if they got to let them go. They got them
go, and WW is a big enough brand that I think it will.
It would survive an initial firing of Triple H Stephanie and no, you know,
Bruce Richard, no previous people social adabute. I think they would survive
at the start as it went on. I don't know. That's a that's
a whole different conversation. So but I hope that the right amount of circumstances
and consequences are done. And it's a that situation, it's just shitty.
It's not a good place to be, especially as a wrestling fan, as
somebody that grew up with his product grow Vinzgman on my TV weekly for many
years and loved his character, loved the performance. It sucks, you know,
it does suck if majority of this is true, if any of it's
true, actually, because there's a lot of bad stuff in there. So
yeah, not a positive note. It's going to change the landscape for a
while. Tripleation is work on that pr and uh, yeah, that's what
I has told you went longer than I thought it was gonna go. But
thank you very much for tuning in. When you hear from you next,
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