WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:26.199 Yo, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of My 2 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:29.839 Cannic Cast. I'm Canad Dave and I'm grooving And on today's episode, we 3 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:34.039 have special guests Stacey, founder of Cannabis Workers Resource. Thank you for joining 4 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:38.640 us today, Stacey, Thanks for having mee awesome and actually fun fact, 5 00:00:38.920 --> 00:00:42.960 Uh, Stacey came out to our bunch out at Plannet and everywhere, and 6 00:00:43.119 --> 00:00:45.439 that's how we met you. We've been meaning to set this up and I'm 7 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:48.320 glad I finally got you in the studio. So yeah, I'm serious. 8 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:51.439 Thanks for having me. Guys. Yeah, so we're definitely excited to hear 9 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:54.560 more about you know, everything you got going on. But like, first, 10 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:59.280 let's talk about a little bout who you are. Yeah, so what 11 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:00.679 what you know? Who are you? Like we brought you into cannabis. 12 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:06.519 Well, my name is Stacy O. Tropsky. I I was in hospitality 13 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:11.560 for a really long time during and after college, and uh, cannabis kind 14 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:14.680 of entered my life when I started having some back issues. I was in 15 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:18.040 my mid to late twenties, and not just some back issues, like it 16 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:21.760 was time where I couldn't walk wow, And it was kind of like they're 17 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:23.000 like, oh, yeah, well, you know, you could have surgery 18 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:30.159 or and I'm like what. And then I found cannabis and instead of going 19 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:34.120 down the route of opiates and pain pills and all that garbage, you know, 20 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:38.599 cannabis was It helped with my back exponentially. And since then, you 21 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:45.959 know, I've I've definitely improved my quality of living because of weed concentrates, 22 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:49.959 which came later on down the road. I was like, I was on 23 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:51.200 the fence. I was like, should I do it? I was like, 24 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:53.439 I don't know. I was waiting for you. He's like, come 25 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:56.079 on, come on, you know you want to. Yeah, I'm bad. 26 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:59.359 I always good. Yeah, yeah, no, it's all good. 27 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:02.280 So so at that point, you know, I started growing in twenty fifteen. 28 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:08.960 In twenty seventeen, I got raided and arrested. Seventeen years seventeen. 29 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:15.479 Yeah oh shit, two years after me. Yeah yeah, we're not there 30 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:17.560 yet. We'll have to talk about it. Say that you went through a 31 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:21.599 raid. That's tough, that's crazy. It fucked up. So it was 32 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:24.879 that personal or so? No? So it was no, it wasn't. 33 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:28.960 So was it just you? I wasn't. I mean, so I was 34 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:34.439 arrested along with or another worker that was with UH in the building at the 35 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:38.879 time. But it was just a small operation that we were told by our 36 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:42.879 investors that we were this close to being licensed because that's when they were giving 37 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:46.560 out licenses, so they just get it started now, and I was like, 38 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:53.599 okay, and it turns out that it's actually kind of dude. And 39 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:55.840 this was during the time, so it was in Detroit, so thank god, 40 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:59.680 it like wasn't the MSP. It was the Detroit police that came in 41 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:02.560 and rated. You know, I didn't sign anything. I was like, 42 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:07.560 no, fuck that. But long story long, like it was. It 43 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:10.120 was definitely a traumatic experience. It was. It was kind of wild and 44 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:14.479 it prevented me from being able to work, which I don't know if what 45 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:16.759 your experience was like, but I, you know, I couldn't even get 46 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:20.560 a job at Kroger and you know, I have a degree, but you 47 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:23.120 know, I literally couldn't. I couldn't get a job because you had it 48 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:27.000 on your record, you know, and they get that time cannabis was so 49 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:30.199 taboo still, you know, m hmm. It wasn't that long ago, 50 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:34.240 but it feels like centuries though, Like how different it was treated you know 51 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:37.879 what I mean, Like it's crazy, but no, it's just six years 52 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:40.960 ago. Really, yeah, geez yeah. And though that experience really kind 53 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:46.159 of it opened my eyes to Okay, like I am a white female, 54 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:50.879 right, like you know, any any black person in this situation would have 55 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.159 not gotten off the way that I gotten off, you know what I mean, 56 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:57.759 That's just how it's gone, right, And so if I'm struggling to 57 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:00.159 find work like then, I know it has to be so much harder for 58 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:03.120 so many other people that have gone through. And that really opened my eyes 59 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:08.360 to like, this is I can now see where this is a very big 60 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:12.560 problem. So I ended up moving over to the license side of things, 61 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:17.079 and literally the day that everything closed down for COVID, it was our first 62 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:20.240 day at New Standard Dispensary. So I was hired in as a bud tender 63 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:26.160 there. Wow, so you literally the day the day I worked my last 64 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:30.160 bartending shift. Okay, you finally get a you're getting you get a job. 65 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:31.879 You got a job in the industry you want And they're like, Okay, 66 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:36.519 the whole world's gonna shut but not for you because you're essential. That 67 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:41.319 was that was a crazy thing that cannabis is still with the stigma that is 68 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:45.160 placed on us the way to treat it. They're immediately like essential, motherfuckers 69 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:50.800 essential, but still not it's still candy schedule it though, right right, 70 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:55.639 exactly exactly, or it doesn't have medical purposes and that's why schedule one, 71 00:04:55.720 --> 00:05:00.199 like what but they already acknowledged that, thirty three states. It's hypocrisy. 72 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:02.839 It's hypocrisy. I say it all the time. I like, it makes 73 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:06.399 no sense. It's literally, like, what the whole point of scheduling drugs 74 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:11.639 is? It has no medical benefit? But thirty three states disagree, right 75 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:15.279 right, rent counting, you know, right anyway, that's crazy, that's 76 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:18.959 crazy. I didn't even realize, like not that people weren't going through raids 77 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:23.720 at that time, but it's I thought he was pretty late in it, 78 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:26.639 you know, because eight is when we like technically went medical, and they 79 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:30.800 were still treating the twenty seventeen's almost a decade later. You were one year 80 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:35.399 away from like because legal twenty eighteen. Yeah, yeah exactly, And so 81 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:39.800 from what I got, they did have the medical license though going through in 82 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:42.879 twenty seventeen. Oh yes, that's what you were going they told you had 83 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:46.600 yeah, oh yeah, for sure, for sure, MFLA came out because 84 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:48.079 they got rid of the m m MP I believe, and they switched it 85 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:51.439 to the m MFLA. Have the licenses because me, they didn't have the 86 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:55.680 m MFLA when I got raided. So technically at the time it was the 87 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.480 wildlog les. There's only supposed to be caregivers, right, I don't know 88 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:00.399 there was a license for the shop was at That's why I said, the 89 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:02.759 same things are so similar. You're like, oh, we're around to get 90 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:06.920 it. You're like, we got it. Yeah, it's like we're there, 91 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:13.000 you know. And dude, that is It's nuts because so in twenty 92 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:15.800 seventeen they kick in your house at all. So it wasn't it wasn't at 93 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:20.199 my house. It was we had a building in Detroit. It was not 94 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:26.759 far from the from the jail. And from what I gather is that during 95 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:30.920 that time, I think Donald Trump was doing something where he was like threatening 96 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:35.639 to take away some kind of funding for cities for like sanctuary cities, and 97 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:40.759 Detroit was still a sanctuary city, so I think there was like some kind 98 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:44.800 of like we need to go find money. Because the first thing that you 99 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:47.600 know, the cops set or the raid. The swat fucking team that came 100 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:49.360 in. They were like, where's the guns and where's the money, and 101 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:54.600 I'm like, neither are here. All they found was twenty so oh you 102 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:58.199 have here is twenty seven dollars and I'm like, yeah, because this is 103 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:00.160 a grow, I'm like where He's like, where's the guns? It was 104 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:02.079 like, there are no gun guns. This is illegal. Grow up. 105 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:05.600 I know they think it's like a trap house. Yeah, like and we 106 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:11.439 watched too many like fucking fake music videos. Du like right, straight up, 107 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:15.160 it's like you walked into someone's garden center. Okay, I'm sorry. 108 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:17.839 The only thing you found was a bunch of fucking soil and like some fucking 109 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:21.680 plants. But that's exactly what was here. We know the law. Like, 110 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:29.519 that's so crazy, but they went they they rated a gross that's even 111 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:32.240 crazier because his was at a disco front and like, so yours is just 112 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:35.360 the whole grow And they thought guns were gonna be there, like even though 113 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:42.639 you were illegal operating, well you know, okay, just about right, 114 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:47.000 but but your business wasn't technically or they weren't technically illegal right at the time. 115 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:50.800 Because new standard is around now, well this was totally different. Oh 116 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:55.480 my god, yeah no, never new standards, no standard. That is 117 00:07:55.560 --> 00:08:00.519 just a a I worked as a bunch okay, cool, this was and 118 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:03.480 people that I knew, this has nothing to do with anything on my copy, 119 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:09.879 just that was just yes, I got you. So this was just 120 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:11.920 a legal grow up that they were literally just thinking that it was like an 121 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:16.439 illegal yeah, because there was people that put money into it that I was 122 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:20.759 not. You know, I was just like working like working for you know, 123 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:24.839 growing for somebody and for our little crew. And we were told that, 124 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:28.120 oh, yeah, the licensing is about to go through, and or 125 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:31.839 at least that's what I was told. They were told that, and then 126 00:08:31.839 --> 00:08:35.679 the next thing, you know, it's me and and our other worker getting 127 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:39.240 arrested and all that stuff. He was an illegal immigrant, which sucked. 128 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:43.720 So he was stuck in jail for like several months and then was deported. 129 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:46.960 Thank god. He was not put in the ICE system though, because that 130 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:50.279 like, yeah, like a whole yes, we got an immigration wirire. 131 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:54.120 So that did not happen because that was during the time that they were like, 132 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:58.039 oh oh you're brown. There you go. You're going to fucking You're 133 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:00.799 going to federal prison. And he would have been. But yeah, he 134 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:03.879 made it back over and you know is doing well, but it was it 135 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.759 was super fucked up. That is crazy. Well it's got to be better. 136 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:13.080 And that's only six years that's six years ago, like six years ago, 137 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.039 that's not even that long ago, all right, So you definitely have 138 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:20.120 a reason to be in the cannons industry, right, So it makes you 139 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:24.919 feel very strong. And obviously this dude, the ability not being able to 140 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:26.720 able to work, obviously struck a chord with you. And I feel like 141 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:31.159 this kind of pushed you to be where you're at now. So I mean, 142 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:33.600 do we want I guess do I guess we could talk about this a 143 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:37.279 little bit. What is the mission statement about Cannabis Workers Resource? So we 144 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:39.320 like, this is your this is your passion project, this is it, 145 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:43.600 right, so let's talk about it a bit. So eventually I've made it 146 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:46.240 into a career, not a paid one yet, but we're getting there. 147 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:50.039 It's like, you know, if I'm going to be poor, like I 148 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:52.120 might as well like be poor and do something to make sure that other people, 149 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:56.360 hopefully will have a better opportunity than I did. Like that, So 150 00:09:56.600 --> 00:09:58.600 like, you know, I worked in hospitality for a long time, which 151 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:03.519 is a toxic, exploitative industry where you're paid very low, you don't really 152 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:07.039 have you know, there's no benefits. You know, there's nothing there. 153 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:09.759 So when I came over to the license side of cannabis at the very beginning 154 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:13.559 of the pandemic in twenty twenty, you know, it was like, well, 155 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:20.200 it's got to be better over here, right, and very quickly it 156 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:22.120 that kind of changed. Not just changed, but it was a lot of 157 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:26.799 lip service and very little follow through. Right. You're you know, they're 158 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:31.759 hiring people in with a lot of experience for twelve and thirteen dollars an hour. 159 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:35.919 I was hired in at fifteen bucks an hour with all of these million 160 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:39.440 promises that you can be anything in this industry where a brand new company. 161 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:43.519 Everybody here is you're gonna be able to create your own position and figure out 162 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:46.440 what you want to do because we're brand new and the you know, the 163 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:52.159 sky is the limit, and that was that sort of thing. So they 164 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:54.600 sold everything and you know that that wasn't the case, so you know, 165 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:58.000 we could get into that story. But the reason I started Cannabis Workers' Resources 166 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:03.879 is because over the past three years after talking to workers, cannabis workers specifically 167 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:07.480 all over the country and legal states, I realized that what we had going 168 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:11.919 on here isn't just something that's isolated to Michigan or isolated to the one dispenser. 169 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:16.639 Yeah, it's problems all over the country, in every legal state. 170 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:20.720 There are a lot of the same issues. Everybody's situation is uniquely fucked. 171 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:26.080 Yeah, I hear that, but there's a lot of same issues. It's 172 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:33.679 a great song title. Yeah, that's that's that's great anyway. But that's 173 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:35.720 so true though, because you know, we're you know, we've talked about 174 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:39.080 this before a lot of times in the cannabis space. People are like, 175 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:43.759 oh, it must be great and glamorous and fun, but it's like it's 176 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:46.320 hard work. There's a lot of uphill battles there is. It's a lot 177 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:50.000 of grind. Yeah, and its people don't talk about it and like, 178 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:52.879 especially like people, but I think they think you're just smoking weed all day 179 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:56.440 and hanging out. It's like, but it's like you've been to grow up. 180 00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:58.840 Like they're working their ass off and they have hundreds of pounds to get 181 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:01.240 through sometimes like depending on the grow up. So it's like, Okay, 182 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.960 you're literally like trimming. I don't know why. Yeah, it's it's plant 183 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:09.720 work. It's hard gardening work. I mean sometimes he's probably even it's difficult 184 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:13.720 when you're dealing with so many people. But that's why you like labor. 185 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:16.360 This type of stuff is so important because I feel like it's it's so early. 186 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:20.320 If you miss it now, it's gonna be harder later. And one 187 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:24.399 hundred million percent that is such an important thing to always walk away with. 188 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:28.159 Is like it is going to be so much harder, if not impossible, 189 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:33.200 to correct the wrongs that are happening right now. Like I was under the 190 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:37.200 impression when I voted that all of this stuff, as far as research and 191 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:39.639 health and safety and stuff was already taken care of, because why would you 192 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:45.600 why would you starten up the market if there's no guidance on how to make 193 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:50.600 things health healthy and safety and keep citizens and residents and workers safe, you 194 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:56.600 know. And turns out there was fucking none of that one million percent. 195 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:01.840 It couldn't be more obvious, like honestly, because nothing was really ready. 196 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:07.279 The fact that you two have both been your raid almost a decade after we 197 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:11.440 went medically legal is just just to show you how fuck everything was and how 198 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:15.799 gray area everything is. He still kind of is like on and off with 199 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:18.639 different times, different stage. You know, Michael two, we got rated 200 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:22.000 last year. I mean yeah, after what he went through. Right after 201 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:24.200 what he went through, we can still fuck with you. You know. 202 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.320 It's like it's shitty. But so with cannabis workers resource, the which is 203 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:33.960 still in development right now. The the point is to help bring these resources 204 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:43.080 that are not being uh presented to or or cared about or compiled to not 205 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:48.559 only just workers, but also businesses that are trying to navigate this very difficult 206 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:54.799 uh system that hasn't been written for anybody else to understand other than people with 207 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:58.320 a lot of money who are not you know, who aren't worried about compliance 208 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:01.720 and all that stuff. There. I got lawyers for that. They have 209 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:07.960 lawyers, And they also have a finite or an infinite amount of dollars in 210 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:11.720 a way that you can't understand. It's not finite, it's infinite almost because 211 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:13.080 they're bringing in a lot of times. These people are already have a lot 212 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:16.200 of money for me. They're different industries. Oh yes, yes, like 213 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:20.159 your loom you know my name is Bell Tire and a billionaire that yeah, 214 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:24.120 like if I need my tires balance, I got you. But like it's 215 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:26.440 like, you know, I don't need to buy your smoke too, you 216 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:30.759 know, So like I don't want to go get my tires changed by you. 217 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:37.159 I also don't want to buy your Well it's like you see some of 218 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:39.159 that. Like and again, I you know, when they come from a 219 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:43.799 different industry, it's not as much care. So I feel like they're looking 220 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:46.559 at things like, you know, especially when it comes down to like wages 221 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:48.279 and care for their industry. They're coming from whatever industry they came from. 222 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:50.919 Just give them whatever we can give them, you know. And it's like 223 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:54.840 right, but it's like, you know, especially now that i'm kind of 224 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:56.600 I get to know a little bit more about the unions and like trade unions, 225 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:01.840 like they protect their workers and there's not like a a cannabis union per 226 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:05.279 se, you know. But it's like we got to talk about these things 227 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:09.360 now, right, So there are unions that you would be familiar with. 228 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:11.480 Like, so there's the ufc W, which United Food and Commercial Workers. 229 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:16.679 There's the Teamsters. You probably heard of the Teamsters before. They've been around 230 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:22.919 for eighty something years. Teamsters does everything from uh god, Teamsters does all 231 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:28.200 kinds of ship, but UFCW represents the trades, tons of trade unions. 232 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:31.000 Right, It's like steel workers, right, so this is similar. So 233 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:35.519 you have you know, you have all these unions, but particularly the Teamsters 234 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:41.960 in UFCW have hemp and cannabis division. So when after I tried to unionize 235 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:45.440 the the dispensary that I worked at, which was new standard, like so 236 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:48.320 very quickly I realized that, oh this everything that they were telling us is 237 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:52.159 not they have no plan on following through and it's not true. And you 238 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.720 know, there it was. There was a lot of struggle with my my 239 00:15:56.799 --> 00:16:00.720 coworkers. Financially, people couldn't get to work, they didn't have the money. 240 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:03.399 It was just it was nuts. We got no hazard pay. They 241 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:07.559 didn't give a ship about us at all. And did you get like pay 242 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:10.919 time off? And all I gotta ask, we got no pay time when 243 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:12.600 I come from did you guys get to keep tips at all? Least? 244 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:17.240 So we got tips, but I mean that was like maybe ten twelve bucks 245 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:18.519 a day yea. But to me that's like this wrong, same thing that's 246 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:22.360 wrong with the restaurant in the street, because you're getting such a Look, 247 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:26.759 it's not a livable wage. They're expecting your their business to do so well 248 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:30.360 with the customer to pay for the person's wage, and that doesn't make sense. 249 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:33.080 It's the same thing with the how I mean there's a tip jar or 250 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:38.039 the spinning around the things. Now with the percent, it's bullshit because there's 251 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:41.039 no because there's not. It's hard these people, these companies are so used 252 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:45.720 to giving them a not liveble wage that they never prepared their business for that, 253 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:49.039 you know, so they just like, you know, you'll get tips, 254 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:52.159 oh, you will give you this perk you know, and all the 255 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:56.159 perks you know, and like and like that's that's cool if you're already living 256 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:59.399 a good wage. But it's not cooep, you're not on a good wage. 257 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:02.799 So I I think sometimes that's kind of like a you know when you 258 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:04.920 say that it's a good distraction almost you know, yeah, they're I mean, 259 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:11.759 because it's it's it's about pulling putting the the the wage or the responsibility 260 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:17.000 onto the consumer rather than on the business, which is not how being paid 261 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:19.960 for work goes. You know. It's literally so that's what they're trying to 262 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:23.440 do in cannabis is that you have people that came from other industries with a 263 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:27.079 lot of bad labor practices and they're bringing all those bad labor practices over to 264 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:30.599 cannabis, and not that they they have. It's it's like that that is 265 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:34.079 happening. It has happened, and they want to bring all that together to 266 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:41.839 have one super industry that is just low paying and very high yield and or 267 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:45.519 you know, a very high ROI. And you know, it is my 268 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:51.440 goal to fucking prevent that because you know, being in hospitality for so long 269 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:55.160 and literally having nothing to show for it, they're trying to do the same 270 00:17:55.200 --> 00:18:00.480 thing with cannabis. You know, it's the turnover in cannabis, like as 271 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:04.079 far as crazy how long you stay in it. So they I'm at this 272 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:08.000 week coming this weekend. It's like because the works need it. But I 273 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:11.839 don't know, it's either like this doesn't work or management doesn't get along with 274 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:17.119 someone. It's always something so right, Oh yeah, I couldn't hear now, 275 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:21.480 I can't hear you. Yeah, there's you know, there's a lot 276 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:23.720 of a lot of stuff that people are not informed about. Workers are not 277 00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:27.559 informed about, and businesses are not informed about. So it's not that all 278 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:30.960 cannabis businesses, all licensees are like the devil. That's not. I don't 279 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:36.559 believe that there's a lot of licensees that got into this saying all right, 280 00:18:36.599 --> 00:18:40.400 well we'll figure it out and then didn't realize that there are a lot of 281 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:45.920 people that don't want them to succeed either. And so the the goals of 282 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:51.440 you know, CWR and Cannabis Workers Resources to help the businesses that are having 283 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:56.640 a very difficult time navigating and help employees you know, know their rights in 284 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:02.759 the workplace and not only keep themselves safe but also be able to work with 285 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:07.400 their employer to make this the industry that we want to see like. And 286 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:10.599 you know, there's there's the option of unionization, you know, always that 287 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:14.640 is there. That is the you know, as every American has the right 288 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:18.000 to unionize or has the right to join a union or former union, and 289 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:22.160 there are a lot of companies that are very against having you know, a 290 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:26.599 union involved. Now, if you don't want a union involved, and your 291 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:30.720 employees want to want to change things at work, then I highly suggest you 292 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:33.960 fucking talk to your employees, you know what I mean, That is the 293 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:37.000 best time to be able like, hey, maybe we should make some changes 294 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:40.920 and listen to our workers, because you don't if you don't want, you 295 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:42.559 know, a union involved. I mean, you don't really have a choice 296 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:47.359 because it is the worker's choice after all. But you know, these companies 297 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:51.839 will spend a lot of time and a lot of money in telling their employees 298 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:55.200 that they don't need a union, yeah, because they almost it comes to 299 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:57.359 this mentality of that they feel like there's is like you're lucky to be working 300 00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:02.039 here. Oh yeah, it's like, excuse me, like privileged. I 301 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:04.119 could work a lot of other places. And I feel like, you know, 302 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:07.640 especially like not necessarily me per se, but like if I examined like 303 00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:11.279 how my mom and dad kind of looked at a job. Sorry mom and 304 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:15.440 dad, you're not listening. But but they always had this like, oh, 305 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:18.519 you know, you have a job. You should be lucky. And 306 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:21.240 I guess that makes sense, you know, from so you know, especially 307 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:22.839 coming from like the you know, post depression era, you need to get 308 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:26.559 these mentalities of like Okay, save everything, you know, be careful. 309 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:30.039 But like there's also this like what's wrong is wrong? And I feel like 310 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:33.400 sometimes like you just took the years of people just taking it for too long 311 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:36.960 where now we just think that's like, oh yeah, two sixty five plus 312 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:40.440 tips, that's great, Like what like you know what I mean, Like 313 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:44.400 right, it's the constant, you know, systemic feeding down. Yeah. 314 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:48.359 Yeah. That really you know gets us to the point of thinking that this 315 00:20:48.559 --> 00:20:52.119 is normal and it's not. It is not normal at all. Look at 316 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:56.319 any other civilized country in the world, and they take care of workers or 317 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:00.319 any successful company like if you like go look at like Google or even like 318 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.960 you know, like you know, like my day job. Like people, 319 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:07.400 there's companies that take care of their workers, like you good benefits. They 320 00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:11.000 will offer you snacks, like they give you pto. Like there's like, 321 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:14.400 you know, I can speak for my experience that they exist. It's just 322 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:18.359 that for some reason, when someone's like probably could make an extra half million 323 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:21.720 dollars or like whatever it is, oh yeah I've saved. Yeah yeah, 324 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:23.599 you're already making money. Like what's the right, I don't care about the 325 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:26.920 bottom line. Right, So, when it came to investing in cannabis, 326 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:30.640 you know, there's you generally have a business plan and you have you know 327 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:34.759 a list of the things that you invest in, and you know, labor 328 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:38.519 was not on anybody's list, and that was on purpose. Uh, you 329 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:41.680 know, it's pay them as low as possible, but keep them on par 330 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:48.160 so, like just to so everybody is kind of aware. The general wage 331 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:53.799 in cannabis is on par with, if not lower than fast food. It's 332 00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:59.039 a lot of the House of Dank pays twelve dollars an hour for bud tenders 333 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:03.119 twelve dollar crazy, like you get a megab I mean, I think I 334 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:07.640 just saw Wendy's is at fifteen height, Taco Bell seventeen and you can get 335 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:14.640 like, question reimburse h why. So it's like I understand why municipalities at 336 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:18.400 least from that respect. It's just like, do you I wouldn't want just 337 00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:22.400 another McDonald's, you know, in my town. But it's not just another 338 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:26.119 McDonald's because it's an access point for medication. And that is something that's so 339 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:30.240 important to understand too, that like you can't be paying people fast food wages 340 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:36.680 when the product that you're selling requires a lot of time and expertise. Okay, 341 00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:38.599 that like it's not like selling a sweatshirt. It's not like selling fucking 342 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:41.880 mcdouble. Yeah, when you're selling something that that's a dollar forty you're like, 343 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:44.960 all right, I guess you know it's a cheap product. But when 344 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:47.440 you're selling we and you're seeing all this money move and all this money move, 345 00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:48.880 and it's like I understand at the top, like they have a lot 346 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:52.400 of stuff issues every company's got you can't write off and stuff which is wrong, 347 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:56.720 right, But the thing is that doesn't give you the right to hire 348 00:22:56.279 --> 00:23:00.799 twenty five thirty, you know, bud tenders and not pay them. Right, 349 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:03.240 may we hire ten, may we hire fifteen, pay that educational that 350 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:06.720 can treat them, and they just slow the page down. They just oh, 351 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:07.920 we got to make all the money as quick as possible, Like right, 352 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:12.319 just just make There's a lot of different strategies in order to be able 353 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:18.519 to realign your your business that is more labor friendly, because if you are 354 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:22.559 paying attention and putting investing more into your workers and into your labor force, 355 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:26.720 you were going to have not only a better product, but you're going to 356 00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:30.160 have a more successful business for many different aspects. Because one of the things 357 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:34.920 I get asked a lot too from like friends and just people that asked me 358 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:41.400 about cannabis is stacey where who's good, who treats people well? Like all 359 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:44.119 these companies, I don't I don't like hearing about all this stuff. And 360 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:47.039 I want to shop and I want to buy product from a company that's like 361 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:49.519 good, who's good? Right, right? And that's so you know what 362 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:53.920 I mean, And like finding the good guys has been really hard, and 363 00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:59.480 you don't, you know, unless companies speak out about hey, like hey, 364 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:03.079 we're paying our bud tenders twenty dollars an hour, and you know we're 365 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:07.200 able to we offer them health ensure, it's anty paid fifty percent or whatever 366 00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:10.759 the fuck it might be. Yeah, you know, like those kind of 367 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:12.680 things. What if someone sets a standard eventually in the future with something like 368 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:15.519 that, because there's not many that are advertising twenty I don't see I don't 369 00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:19.960 No, I haven't seen any really touched there at all. There's and they 370 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:22.680 probably they probably what they do is they probably say you can get up to 371 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:29.160 that with yeah, and you never very rarely do you know. Management at 372 00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:34.319 dispensaries makes literally under twenty dollars an hour in a lot of places management okay, 373 00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:37.920 like it's just like it's a trickle down effects sort of like they like 374 00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:42.000 crazy word, Well, that's that's That's what I'm trying to say it is 375 00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:45.279 like they have this mentality that it's going to trickle down, but it's like 376 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:48.160 it does it unless you just start with that wage. It it's so hard 377 00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:51.000 to work your way up in a company financially, like you know, you 378 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:56.440 don't get like five dollars wages like raises good. You know that's a fair 379 00:24:56.480 --> 00:24:59.720 wage coming in. Otherwise it's gonna be very hard to keep surviving with inflation. 380 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:02.920 Oh yeah, And that's why unions are so important because you're like you're 381 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:07.079 getting you're getting your raisory. You negotiate a contract every three years, every 382 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:10.640 two years, I believe, and it's like that that's you know, the 383 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:15.000 union really brought the middle class to what it is in America. And we've 384 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:18.519 seen that wages have gone down, but CEO, you know, salaries have 385 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:22.799 gone up, profits have gone up, inflation have gone up, but wages 386 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:27.759 haven't. And but and the decline of unions over the years has really had 387 00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:32.440 to do with that. So now you know, it's it's really important and 388 00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:37.440 it's exciting to see that there's massive movements that are happening in a lot of 389 00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:42.039 other industries. Look at Starbucks, Amazon, U A, W healthcare workers, 390 00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:53.599 teachers are all going on strike your name, Vegas, yeah, everywhere, 391 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:56.680 and they deserve too. That is their right to do it. And 392 00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:02.880 if it wasn't for the businesses now following through what they're supposed to do. 393 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:06.960 As this is a mutual this needs to be a mutually beneficial agreement. I 394 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:10.799 work for you, you pay me, care about me. That's that you 395 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:14.279 care. Care. We can't force anybody to care. That's the main thing. 396 00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:18.119 That's that's one thing that's a hard pill to swallow. But you can't 397 00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:22.240 force anybody to give a shit about you, but you can force them to 398 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:26.240 do the things. I mean so to me, I mean, if you 399 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:29.559 care about your company, you want your employees to care the maximum amount you 400 00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:33.079 should treat them, and you should care about them because it's like you said, 401 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:36.759 it's a mutual American I'm not I'm not saying in the American ways, 402 00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:38.920 right, I'm just saying, if you don't do that, if you don't 403 00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:42.279 give that respect to that person, they already dread coming to work. Even 404 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:45.559 if they love what they do, they may hate the environment. The environment 405 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:52.319 is so so key to your workplace. Oh yeah, absolutely paid. Well, 406 00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:55.200 yeah, yeah, you get very toxic. So I mean, especially 407 00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:57.960 as like coming in the industry as a female, Like, I can't imagine 408 00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:03.160 how that perspective has been, you know, as far as toxicity. Yeah, 409 00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:06.960 yeah, there's you know, women are often what I noticed from my 410 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:11.359 perspective is at the beginning of you know, uh like COVID when I when 411 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:15.039 I kind of came into this and we an adult use came online and stuff, 412 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:18.880 it was like women were really put into positions of management and stuff very 413 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.559 quickly, and it was like they're like, look, look, there's so 414 00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:26.680 many women in the industry. And once the women that's like just selling like 415 00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:37.799 burn themselves out on fixing and trying to create a coherent or cohesive environment and 416 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.880 literally burned themselves out and got fired because that's usually how it goes. They 417 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:45.400 just replaced them with men after the women do all the work. Because women, 418 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:49.000 we know that we have to work harder in any situation, and especially 419 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.319 when we're told, hey, you know, if you work hard, you 420 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:55.039 can be anything in this. You know, in this bit, you're gonna 421 00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:56.599 you could be here for the rest of your life. This could be the 422 00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:00.720 job, this would be the company you've found, You've what you want, 423 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.920 and you're told it's gonna be something that you want. Yeah you know, 424 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:06.720 yeah, that it's going to be this thing, and it turns out not 425 00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:10.640 being that thing. And you know, it wasn't just my experience. It 426 00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:15.519 has been the experience of a lot of people and a lot of women which 427 00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:19.480 now seeing more of because there's you could only stay silent for so long. 428 00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:23.960 And it did take until you know, people that were making more money or 429 00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:30.240 were more in more like salaried positions, who you kind of think that you're 430 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.720 like invincible in those positions, but you're not. And it took women getting 431 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:38.279 just taken out back and shot like an old dog that were in these positions 432 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:41.799 to be like, oh fuck, this is a problem everywhere, Like it's 433 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.920 a real problem. It isn't just with one company, it's it's with the 434 00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:49.599 whole industry. Yeah, we've heard it time time again, right right, 435 00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:52.680 I mean with all these factors that we keep talking about, Like, was 436 00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.920 there any driving factor to make you start the c w R like any of 437 00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:02.119 these or is it just all these factors because every single topic you've been heating. 438 00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:07.680 I love it. I love it well because that's what you need to 439 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:08.759 really because it's not you know, it's not a heart industry. So that's 440 00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:11.640 why I love because like, is there anything any of these specific things that 441 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.240 drove you to start to see i w R any of these specifically or is 442 00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:18.799 it all of them? Like it's the fact that as an employee, I 443 00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:25.960 was not told that I had any options. So when you go and work 444 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:27.920 for someplace, they are very quick to tell you and train you on what 445 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:32.480 you're not allowed to do. However, they don't tell you what you can 446 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:36.599 do. How far. Yeah, and that comes to like you know what 447 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:42.400 where to go to file uh sexual harassment charge via your state, and and 448 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:48.279 you know at a national level where to go and file complaints when you think 449 00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.519 that, man, I'm working in this cultivation facility and all of a sudden, 450 00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:53.720 I have a breathing problem and I've talked to you know, and then 451 00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:56.799 health conditions are crazy and some of these places that's why I bad. So 452 00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.880 you can go to c w R to UH click on your state and you'll 453 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.759 be able to find exactly where to go to file these complaints. So I 454 00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:08.519 started it because I wanted to have a place where workers can go to access 455 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:15.319 the things that I wish that So I just pulled resources, but it just 456 00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.519 it literally just moved as you said it. But it wasn't there first second. 457 00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.640 I just pulled it up resources by job type, website right now, 458 00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:26.680 can see right, Yeah, I was looking earlier, so it's different person 459 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.319 So like every state, Oh that it took me, Like I was working 460 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.599 on that was like a spreadsheet of like every state, a lot of data 461 00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:38.000 web exactly. But I still have a lot of data to make it into 462 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:41.559 a user experience. So, like I said, that's why it's in development. 463 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:44.960 There is so much more that we have that we need to figure out 464 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:49.359 how to make it understandable and usable and workable for employees and in the employer. 465 00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:53.480 So you can also go on there like because I never experienced any training, 466 00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:59.240 I've worked for three licensed companies and two of them being MSOs. Right. 467 00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:02.000 I worked at to Grow, I worked at a Brass Ambassador, and 468 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:04.200 I worked as a bud tender. The most training I ever got was at 469 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.319 bud tending, but that still was nothing. I didn't know that. I 470 00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.960 didn't know what a batter and a butter was. I didn't I learned that 471 00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:15.640 from my colleagues who already have you're learning, yes, you're learning about how 472 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:19.519 to take money, how to stable bags closed, and how to try to 473 00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:25.079 mitigate keeping uh, the flow going. The real key of the industry right 474 00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:30.680 exactly make people money, so you know, not having any training or anything, 475 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.920 and then talking to workers around the country who say, I've never had 476 00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:37.799 a fucking lick of training. You can go to Cannabis Workers' Resource and go 477 00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:41.480 to our job journeys, and I think it's resources by job. So if 478 00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:44.759 you're like in retail or if you're in cultivation or whatever, or maybe you 479 00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.319 want to get into the industry, you can go there. You can click 480 00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:52.519 on cultivation and there's like a series of links that you can make your way 481 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.400 through almost like chapters, and it'll give you a better idea. And these 482 00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.000 so the links are just from stuff that already exists. It's already existing information 483 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:05.079 should because education shouldn't be gate kept right, especially growing weed and keeping yourself 484 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.640 safe. So you can go on here and you can click through there's fire 485 00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:12.440 safety, there's what are terpenes, there's you know, all those different things, 486 00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:15.519 and then you can also learn about organizing in the workplace and where you 487 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:20.079 can go to go file complaints and stuff like that. Yeah, I'm clicking 488 00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:22.119 through sort of Wow, you can just keep going. Yeah, this is 489 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:24.400 really really well built. It looks really good. It's clean, very clean. 490 00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:28.839 Yeah, thank you. Definitely, big shout out to to my friends. 491 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.079 I can't really she's works in another industry, but yeah, she's amazing 492 00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:37.079 team. And we're trying to spend our team because it's just so tough. 493 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:39.119 Yeah, you can't do it all. You can't do it all, right, 494 00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:43.440 And you guys do an incredible job. You know, the day jobs 495 00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:45.839 too, so we're working another forty hours a week and that's so much. 496 00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:49.839 It is so much, but you guys are doing a great job. And 497 00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:52.400 you know that's that's the only way that we can really make this the industry 498 00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:57.079 that we want is by being able to have these conversations. Yeah, put 499 00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:01.440 in that work and you know, shouting the right place. Yeah. Yeah, 500 00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:04.839 it's very Yeah, that's how we like having guests on like you. 501 00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.200 I mean, this is something we haven't dove into a lot, to be 502 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:10.319 honest, and I want to ask you about, uh, what has been 503 00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:15.680 one of the biggest issues you've heard about with unsafe working conditions in cannabis Because 504 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:17.880 you're talking about growth, but I mean I'm curious. You don't have to 505 00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:21.559 put the names if you want to, but if you want to, yeah, 506 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:24.559 I'll ship the tea, oh for sure. Right, well let's get 507 00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:30.559 something brewing then, right, I have a British accent. I'm craving tea 508 00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:36.599 so much. Yeah, I couldn't find a cue tip, so you gotta 509 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:38.880 went over there. I couldn't reach across you, so I was just like, 510 00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:42.599 well, I know I was gonna say, you gotta get something rolled 511 00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:47.119 up here. We smoked. Friar started samples. You guys can't see this, 512 00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:52.680 but he's just got like a bunch of samples from gems and genetics out 513 00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:58.680 here. Yeah, gems and actual ran into each other over there, looks 514 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:02.680 random samples. So this is like everything that was left over after I judged. 515 00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:08.159 There's thirteen after you judge was already been tapped into exactly so, but 516 00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:12.760 just a little bit because I was using my one hitter. And this is 517 00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:15.079 how was it being a judge? Did you like it? I've always wanted 518 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.840 to be a judge. How was it? It's so funny because they're blind 519 00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:21.079 testing too. I like that. Yeah, I like that they're blind. 520 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:25.599 It was awesome. It was my first time judging, and at least like 521 00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:29.320 in this aspect, it was given pre roles before and then you know, 522 00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:31.519 you fill it out online. But it was super cool. You know, 523 00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:36.440 you go to the judges tent and you just there is a strategy involved. 524 00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:39.599 Oh that doesn't look that good. Right at that time, I think I 525 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:44.960 cut the camera, so good cut. You know, there's a strategy involved 526 00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.440 that I didn't really realize was there, which was, uh, you know, 527 00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:52.119 kind of find some other people, to find some other judges and get 528 00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:55.360 together and like kind of create a rally group. And I did not do 529 00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:58.880 that. I had my one hitter, so I was one hitting every one 530 00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:01.079 of them and then going on and and then it was wow, this is 531 00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:04.639 taking a lot longer than I thought it was going to take. And I 532 00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:08.079 had to do edibles too, and it takes time to actually feel it right 533 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:14.239 right, so that the whole experience it was awesome. I highly recommend if 534 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:16.519 you're doing any kind of event, hit up the World three Judges. They 535 00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:20.159 had a very cool system, like you get a log in, you get 536 00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:24.440 to do it all online, and it was yeah, it made it system 537 00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:29.079 rather than because we've seen someone just like paper. Then they lose them right 538 00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:31.960 right right. No, this was like straight up so you could like walk 539 00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:37.480 around and hit your thing and you know, be able to judge it right 540 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:43.639 on there as soon as you taste good, is it? Like? What 541 00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:46.519 categories are there? So, like, as far as products goes, there 542 00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:52.679 was a lot of that. There's hybrid flower, indica, uh sativa, 543 00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:59.599 indoor outdoor, edibles, pre rolls and fuse pre rolls, all those different 544 00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:02.719 things. But then every person got to choose two, so you weren't doing 545 00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:05.960 all of them. You get like, bam, here's your ship, all 546 00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:08.960 right. So I chose edibles and hybrid. But then I also chose CBD 547 00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:13.679 because there was only one entry for CBD for CBD flower. And it was 548 00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:22.400 awesome too. It was well like, uh, well no, it's breaking 549 00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:25.280 rippy by their first and their last. I'm so comfort Yeah, they get 550 00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:30.519 the raspberry and the gold the gold medal at the same time. I mean, 551 00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:32.280 I don't know, that's kind of rad. That's cool. No, 552 00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:35.840 that's cool, so I no, no, So I mean that's cool, 553 00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:37.599 that's really cool. Yeah. It was a lot of fun, you know, 554 00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.800 because it's I know that I talk a lot, just a lot in 555 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:44.639 general, but definitely a lot about health and safety and stuff in this industry. 556 00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:47.719 And as you had asked, you know, what kind of issues have 557 00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.519 I heard about? What kind of issues are we seeing? And the issues 558 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:59.079 that are happening are very major as far as health effects go within cannabis cultivation 559 00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:05.079 facilities and uh specifically cultivation facilities, and then also in processing a little differently, 560 00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:09.159 we're seeing a lot of respiratory, ocular, and dermal diseases. Really, 561 00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:14.599 so respiratory being from so again, airflow, I mean, I feel 562 00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:16.639 like there should be a lot of airflow already. But yes, so this 563 00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:23.400 comes from not having people that are setting up buildings correctly, not having you 564 00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:30.280 know, there is no standardization for to build a cannabis cultivation facility. There's 565 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:34.679 nothing been set forth. So generally, how like a new industry goes is 566 00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.880 like, all right, we're going to set standards for this industry at you 567 00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.679 know, the federal level, and you have nonprofit organizations that create their own 568 00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.840 sets of standards. They hand them over to the government, and the government, 569 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.199 you know, for a bid, right, and the government says, 570 00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:52.559 all right, yeah, number B or whatever. The letter B is the 571 00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:58.400 best number B. It's the name of the company, right, is the 572 00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:00.079 set of standards that makes the most We're going to go with them. And 573 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:05.039 then that set of standards, and the federal government advises the states on how 574 00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:08.800 to advise businesses and how to go ahead and employ all these standards. Because 575 00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:15.440 cannabis is federally illegal, there's no standards there. So now the state, 576 00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:21.519 for the first time in the history of of ever now has to write standards 577 00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.800 which are create rules and regulations in a way that they've never had to do 578 00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:28.960 before, nor do they have anybody to do it well. And it's got 579 00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:35.119 to be so the area because so there was never any research done. Everything 580 00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:38.039 was pushed by by lobbyists that came from big money. This is all to 581 00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:45.400 make money and people are getting sick in the process. Oh yeah, there 582 00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:51.920 I I there definitely will be more. Hopefully there is more, because there's 583 00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:55.760 share for sure. But you know, the point is is that there are 584 00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:02.320 ocular, dermal and respiratory diseases that are being developed by young workers with no 585 00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:07.239 prior health conditions, okay, and it's from working in these facilities. And 586 00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:12.679 it's not like we have to reinvent the wheel. There are safety measures that 587 00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:16.280 already exist. I feel like there's way more dangerous industries. Like I mean, 588 00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:21.000 isn't there already tons of farming industries? Like can't we just take some 589 00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:23.079 of that? Like I mean again, I'm not I'm not asking the question. 590 00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:27.880 It's just crazy to me that these precautions aren't standardized in some way, 591 00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.440 at least by the state level, because like health, I know, but 592 00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:35.920 like people dying in your state doesn't look good. It's still a bad pr 593 00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:38.000 thing at least, like God sick too. I mean, I'm talking like 594 00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:40.360 these you should just care about people. But if you don't care about people, 595 00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:43.920 at least care about your pr like, at least care about something like 596 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:46.480 God. These people don't care. It's given right, right, So it's 597 00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:52.280 just like those issues are are detrimental, like I've heard so as far as 598 00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.119 yeah, restory right. The women that passed away in Massachusetts, her name 599 00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:59.360 is Laura McMurray. She was twenty seven years old. She passed away u 600 00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:07.480 twenty January of twenty twenty two. And uh, the story guy named Mike 601 00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:12.000 Crawford in Massachusetts, young jerks. Uh, he broke the story. And 602 00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:19.960 you know, since then, there's definitely been more talk about safety within the 603 00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:25.599 cannabis industry. But with that being said, nobody's doing anything about it, 604 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:31.519 right Moreognized still isn't doing anything about it. The company that, uh that 605 00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:35.679 Laurna worked for, Truly, which is a multi state operator, They are 606 00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:42.119 one of the worst. They their their model is go in bribe. What 607 00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:45.320 was the company in Truly Team? Oh yeah, I don't like it, 608 00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:46.960 truly. That's a whole different reason. But I don't like them for some 609 00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:51.840 reasons because tried the garbage and like the people, it was all garbage. 610 00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:55.519 The people awful. They they come in with an iron fist. There is 611 00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:59.880 if they come into your state, there is corruption there. This is how 612 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:04.079 they do business. It is not a conspiracy and it's not this is how 613 00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:10.519 they do their business, like quite literally. So after Lorna died, they 614 00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:15.920 were ordered by OSHA to pay It was something like fourteen thousand dollars. It 615 00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:20.440 was a joke number that Yeah, So that's the precedent for price on a 616 00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:22.039 human life in the cannabis industry, by the way, is around fourteen to 617 00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:25.719 five so a couple pounds nowadays. Uh huh yeah, straight up, yeah, 618 00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:30.480 and uh that's ridiculous. So they were also ordered to do something called 619 00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:37.880 the health hazard evaluation, and a health hazard evaluation is done through NIOSH, 620 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:42.400 which is the National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health, which is part of 621 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:49.239 the CDC. Yes, so what NIOSH does is like they're like the research 622 00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.800 branch of things. They're like, okay, we want to we want to 623 00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:57.760 do research and test it and discover like what's going on in facilities and figure 624 00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:00.880 out how to make them better. Right, so you can get something called 625 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:04.719 the health hazard evaluation, which is free, fucking free, by the way, 626 00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:07.920 and the results of that health hazard evaluation is non binding, so you 627 00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:12.599 don't have to do what they have fought like so anyway, pretty much like 628 00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.519 hey, well examy your shit to make sure it's healthy and like no choice 629 00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:20.239 and they and people still won't do it your recommendations that it is a very 630 00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:24.800 in depth process that takes months. Really yeah, So the fact that it's 631 00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:29.119 free, it just blows my mind because you figured like that would be the 632 00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:30.519 reason these people were getting held back. It's like, oh, it costs 633 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.239 money, right, He's like, well, right, no, this is 634 00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:38.679 far free. So the what is it? The Cannabis Control Commissioner Oosha Rather 635 00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:45.039 in Massachusetts ordered truly to have a health hazard evaluation as well as a stipulation 636 00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:50.840 of their uh whatever they're yeah, that settlement, whatever the you want to 637 00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:55.079 call it. And this week or like three days before they were supposed to 638 00:42:55.119 --> 00:43:01.039 have this health hazard evaluation begin because it takes months, they pulled all their 639 00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:06.719 employees together in the morning and released the statement saying that they were completely pulling 640 00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:09.400 out of the state of Massachusetts and closing all of their operations, cultivation, 641 00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:15.639 retail, you name it within thirty one. Because you knew they realized the 642 00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.159 pr on it, they'd be like they digging everywhere else they brew their brand. 643 00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:22.519 It would destroy their brand. Yeah, it would destroy their brain if 644 00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:25.000 they were honest. What's probably the issues because they are probably doing some show 645 00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:28.639 badly that they're hiding in. Yeah, that's what Mike, I mean, 646 00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:32.039 filled with oh oh god. Yeah. Well that's the thing you talk about, 647 00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:35.920 these respiratory issues. The only way you can have this bad issues is 648 00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:37.719 like, is there black mold? And no, I mean I understand that 649 00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:42.000 it happens. Mold happens, but are they not even looking to take care 650 00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.199 of it? Well, it's just mold, right, So there's a lot 651 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:49.639 of different situations that can occur as far as air quality and stuff get is 652 00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:53.440 concerned, right, So generally in a cultivation facility you also are like grinding 653 00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:58.119 up and doing pre rolls. At least that's how it was when I worked 654 00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:01.280 at Doghouse in Detroit. We would have one little area where you'd grind, 655 00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:06.000 have giant grinder and grind shit up and pack pre rolls and stuff all day. 656 00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:10.119 And so Laurna worked in that processing kind of area where they would do 657 00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:15.000 a lot of the grinding, which has now been to have been discovered as 658 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:19.760 the most or one of the most dangerous areas within a grow, especially because 659 00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:23.679 there is no proper ventilation, and we don't really I mean, I'm not 660 00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:29.000 sure. I'm sure there is a evaluation on what proper ventilation would look like, 661 00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.519 but it's not happening. It's not occurring. So in the truly case, 662 00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:40.119 the original Osha inspections that happened after she passed away showed that in the 663 00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:44.519 room where she was doing her work or she was working at where they were 664 00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:49.360 doing the grinding and processing, there was a shopvack hooked up to a vent 665 00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:54.760 and that was supposedly the ventilation. But here's the other catch is that a 666 00:44:55.000 --> 00:45:00.880 shopvac was hooked up backwards and it hadn't been turned on must and it was 667 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.920 covered in a layer of keith dust. Well, this is my point, 668 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:06.960 like you should there should be like, oh my god, so this okay, 669 00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:12.519 So this health hazard inspection is free. Evaluation is free, but we 670 00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.199 we don't do it. And then my thing is like that's crazy just to 671 00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:21.519 begin with, Like it's you know, it's free bio show, so niosorry, 672 00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:23.719 so it's free. So do that. Second off, like the fact 673 00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:29.039 that these people aren't even checking their own workspaces disgusting, like regardless of who's 674 00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:32.079 working there, like like you don't just clean up. It does matter though 675 00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:35.920 who's working there, because if you don't have somebody that's trained and what they 676 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:38.039 need to look for like that. That's why this is such a big problem 677 00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:44.119 because you have people that are put in management situations that don't even understand this. 678 00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:47.519 Owners that are there who did not come from this industry that do not 679 00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:52.360 understand nor have tried to take the time to understand the kind of hazards that 680 00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:58.039 are faced with an indoor grow that is also manufacturing. There are always going 681 00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:00.440 to be hazard and it's not a plant's fault. It has nothing to do 682 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.400 with the plant and has to do with people getting their hands on it and 683 00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:07.320 putting it in a controlled environment and not being able to control that environment right, 684 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:10.159 because essentially they they they're not focused on the health part. They're focused 685 00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:15.159 on just doing the job, just doing the pump out weed, and they're 686 00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:17.199 not like, you're gonna have a bad product and you're gonna have a lot 687 00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:21.920 of fucking problems that come along with that if you don't train people on what 688 00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:25.599 they need to look for. I worked at a grow in the License Grow 689 00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:30.400 in Detroit, Doghouse Medical Grow. They're one of the gals I worked with. 690 00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:35.400 She was there three months before I had come in and I had grown 691 00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:39.039 obviously prior she had none, and we were doing something in the garden together 692 00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:43.719 and she goes those two plants. She's like, they look different. Why 693 00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:45.800 did they look different? I was like, what do you mean. I 694 00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:47.280 was like, She's like, well, the leaves. One's like fat and 695 00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:52.000 one's like skinny. And I was like, oh, well, one is 696 00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:54.280 like an Indica leaning plant. One's a sativa leaning part. I was like, 697 00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:58.320 did you I'm like, did they like train you or anything in it? 698 00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:00.559 She's like, no, they just gave me a pair of scissors and 699 00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:02.599 tell me to start cutting and showed me where to cut on the plant. 700 00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:07.960 And that's it. So so comes to my first harvest. So we would 701 00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:14.320 harvest often, and it was my first harvest, my first week of work, 702 00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:16.920 my first harvest with the company. And in the room that we were 703 00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:21.199 harvesting, first of all, we're not like there were masks and stuff around, 704 00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:23.320 but there was no requirement to wear anything. Nobody was given any kind 705 00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:28.159 of protection, any any kind of protection, no ppe nothing. We were 706 00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:30.320 told to go on Amazon and buy arm coverings because we would get sticky. 707 00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:35.760 Other than that, right right, even by the farmer's defenses for you. 708 00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:40.000 That's but that's what the owners are telling us. It's like, wait a 709 00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:45.719 minute, you're the you're the company. Why are we having so lives are 710 00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:50.440 long? Right, So it's my first harvest. And I noticed emediately that 711 00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:55.280 this room, especially the back left corner, about pretty much thirty five percent 712 00:47:55.360 --> 00:48:00.679 of the whole room was covered in powdery mildew. I've never seen anything like 713 00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:07.360 it in my life because I've never been in a grow possibly like it was, 714 00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:10.960 never get like that. Dude, Okay, so here's here's the thing. 715 00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:15.880 How does it get that bag by? Because you have people that don't 716 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:21.079 know what they're looking for. I was like, this is powdery mildew, 717 00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:22.000 but yeah, I see it looks different. I was like, no, 718 00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:25.679 this is a problem. So I told my supervisor and then she went over 719 00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:30.360 and told the head guy who's like the owner owner because they're a multi state 720 00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:31.559 operator, and he comes over and he looks at it. He goes, 721 00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:36.599 oh, that's just dense trichromes. And I was like, it is absolute. 722 00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:40.519 I'm like, false, No, it's not. Yeah, it's just 723 00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:45.079 dense trichromes. I was like, this is powdery mildew. And meanwhile me 724 00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:46.519 and my coworkers are itching, and I was like please, I was like, 725 00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:52.599 put on masks, guys, like this is not right. That's yeah, 726 00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.719 it's like I mean, it was fucking like. It was just ridiculous, 727 00:48:55.880 --> 00:49:01.039 Like and then telling workers that it's dense richromes, you're literally giving them 728 00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:07.559 false information education and you're going to have problems. And literally the same thing 729 00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:14.920 happened a couple harvests later. They decided to pack as many plants in the 730 00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:17.519 room as possible to make it to the point where humans couldn't get back to 731 00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:22.760 a certain form things because those plants are going to get discover died and started 732 00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:29.960 getting and that's all you have to rod and because you can't fit humans back 733 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:37.239 there, it's just dumb, dumb ship that is completely unnecess crazy. So 734 00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:40.800 you just to make this much more money. But it dies anyways, right 735 00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.159 but right and and then takes out a bunch of and now you have Now 736 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:49.000 you've compromised your environment, right like we never got. So there's at least 737 00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:53.559 supposed to be one person and it should be every employee in a cannabis facility, 738 00:49:53.639 --> 00:50:00.840 but the Sierra only requires that one person within a and a management position 739 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:07.280 within a cultivation facility gets m DARD training, which is the Michigan Department of 740 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:14.320 Agriculture, and it doesn't. So employees are not being given the information that 741 00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:17.199 they need to even know what they're what to look out for and what their 742 00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:22.159 rights are or even what they're able to do if they know that if they 743 00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:25.480 feel like something's wrong, and that's what CWR also aims to do. So 744 00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:29.679 you can go on there, you can click on your OSHA site like you 745 00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:34.000 go to Michigan and it'll like a whole. A list of links will pop 746 00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:37.480 up and you can click on OSHA and you can so that'll take you directly 747 00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:39.440 to a complaint link, but you can go back and click around there on 748 00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:44.280 OSHA like you can also file complaints saying I don't know what I'm doing at 749 00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:47.559 work and I think that there's something wrong, like because we need people to 750 00:50:47.719 --> 00:50:52.159 speak up. If there are no receipts, then what I get told from 751 00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:59.199 from you know, uh leaders of you know are either representatives or you know, 752 00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:01.239 agencies, is stuff is well, you know, we don't see any 753 00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:06.039 reports. There's no reports coming in. If so many people are getting sick, 754 00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:08.239 then why are there no complaints about it? Why don't we see any 755 00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:13.199 reports? It's like, well, the CRA has never there's nothing on their 756 00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:17.840 website for employees at all. There's no education resource for workers on the CRA. 757 00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.480 So you can go to Cannabis Workers Resource. That's what this is also 758 00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:27.000 for, is for supplemental training because they're not getting it at work, and 759 00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:30.960 the CRA doesn't require it for every employee. It requires it for one employee 760 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:36.360 on site, and that employee is just supposedly like telling people like there's no 761 00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:42.800 there's no accountability for people getting I actually asked the CRA during their education session 762 00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:45.039 the other day, like, hey, what kind of like so if there 763 00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:52.159 is a complaint that went through the CRA, and part of the CRA's mediation 764 00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:55.480 of it is that they have to the company has to train employees, I 765 00:51:55.559 --> 00:52:00.400 asked, well, what kind of proof do you have to provide as a 766 00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:06.280 company when mitigating this via employee training? He said, Oh, I don't 767 00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:10.159 know, Like you turn in like a like an outline of a training or 768 00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:15.360 something. It's just like that's that's nothing Like anybody could literally type something up 769 00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:21.000 and doc it doesn't there's no accountability of actually right saying the worst done and 770 00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:23.599 saying it's saying it and saying it's being done to right, Because that's thing. 771 00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:27.599 Just because you say someone's going to know how it works and shove them 772 00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:30.079 in a facility, It's like does that doesn't mean anything about it's being done 773 00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:34.079 or anything matters past that? Right? You need to be able to execute 774 00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:36.679 the knowledge that you're receiving, almost like hey, we did our job that 775 00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:38.719 we told they needed to have a guy Like cool, Yeah, yeah, 776 00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:44.039 what what there? It is like the you know, straight up either regulation 777 00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:49.079 agency, Like what regulation, Yeah, but as far as Sierra said, 778 00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:51.719 well, that would be you know, that's that's not them, because they're 779 00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:57.800 there to regulate the the what the hell just the license Yeah, the licensees. 780 00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:00.079 And you know it's just like, well wait a minute, because it's 781 00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:06.280 kind of like been this game of kick the can, right, Well, 782 00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:08.039 that's just for this. You should talk to the Sierra about the CIRA is 783 00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:14.079 like, well, you should talk to it. It's like yeah, it's 784 00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:16.800 like meanwhile, like you know, my peers are getting sick, and our 785 00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:22.760 communities are are you know, are losing jobs as well, right because you 786 00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:27.360 have places that you know, in the middle of nowhere where they built these 787 00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:30.559 cultivation facilities and you know, well, we're going to lay off half the 788 00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:35.000 employees, and now you have half of a small town that you know didn't 789 00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:38.400 have a lot of opportunity to begin with, unemployed. At the same time, 790 00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:44.400 that's pretty bud, There's a lot. There's so much to talk about. 791 00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:46.159 No, no, no, you know it makes sense. I know. 792 00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:50.320 I mean just this how important that I love how much data is on 793 00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:53.000 your website, so all those resources by stay, resources, by job. 794 00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:55.400 You're in the cams industry, like you could do this the links to all 795 00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:59.840 the oceans stuff right there. I like that it's all organized because I think 796 00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:04.079 this is something that I mean, it does get overlooked because it's like not 797 00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:07.400 as much of a fun topic to discuss as much as the money is or 798 00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:10.320 look at the fucking weed, like yeah, it's tight, Like who is 799 00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:13.880 in like leg smoking weed. That's the whole point. But some of this 800 00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:15.559 is not fun stuff. I feel like it's brushed like under the rug. 801 00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:17.960 And like that's why it's great what you did with all those data, because 802 00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:22.559 it is important. You talk, you talk. Unions people all tend to 803 00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:30.679 shy away from all that. Yeah, I know you're so right, and 804 00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:35.800 it's not you know, the most happiest, cheeriest topic, but it can 805 00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:38.159 be because it's not about like, it's about what's happening. When it's done 806 00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:42.599 right, it's like you're like, yeah, you'd be very proudly, Oh 807 00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:45.440 my god, yeah, i'd be very highly of that company. You speak 808 00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:49.039 very highly of your word. It's like it's it's important, yes, absolutely, 809 00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:52.960 because it's we're trying to stop these things from happening and help the business, 810 00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:58.039 you know, mitigate those problems. Because You're gonna have fucking banging product 811 00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:00.599 if you have people that know what they're doing, and you know that, 812 00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:02.599 if you have people know what you're doing, you're gonna have a good product 813 00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:07.360 at the ed of the day. Know your surroundings, you know, have 814 00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:10.920 have that education, and you know that's that's only going to bring the standards 815 00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:15.320 and to like actual standards. That is what is going to be bring about 816 00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:20.039 standards willingly rather than legislatively. We can either have the state do it, 817 00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:22.360 which they're not, you know, and I mean still get to work on 818 00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:25.559 that for sure, but as a company, you know, if you really 819 00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:29.480 want to take your ship to the next level, this is this is the 820 00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:32.800 time to do it. You know, train your people, real training. 821 00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:38.760 You can hit me up. I do consulting. I just put your title. 822 00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:42.719 I actually didn't put your handle, but or how are what's the best 823 00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:45.519 way to get hold you whatever? I mean, there's several different ways. 824 00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:49.519 So you can find me on LinkedIn. You know, there's Stacy Watropsky on 825 00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:54.159 LinkedIn, on Instagram, I'm at stase of base Underscore eight five. You 826 00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:59.760 can go to Cannabis Workers Resource and there's a contact area and also in our 827 00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:04.039 US you can shoot me a message on there. I get all of that 828 00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:07.280 stuff. There's like nobody else looking at it or anything. So whichever one 829 00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:13.639 of those those platforms and stuff, I will definitely respond. And then Stacy 830 00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:15.840 at Cannabis Workers Resource dot com if you want to shoot me an email. 831 00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:20.320 Yeah, that website is clutch, like it looks very awesome, man looks 832 00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:23.559 see and all your contact information is there. So Cannabis Workers Resource dot Com 833 00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:28.199 right right. And our business aspect of the website as far as like four 834 00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:31.599 specifically four businesses hasn't even rolled out yet, So there is We're going to 835 00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:36.599 have a whole area where because what I hear from license holders is like I 836 00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:40.960 am, I've done everything in my power to make my facility as safe as 837 00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:46.679 possible, and somehow people are still getting sick or people or or you know, 838 00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:52.719 we're still finding issues with mold. What other resources are out there? 839 00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:54.719 Like, I don't know what else to do? Well there are? You 840 00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:59.000 know, what I pride myself in is I've built one hell of a network 841 00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:01.920 over over the U that is not just in cannabis, but far outside of 842 00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:07.639 cannabis, and you know, being able to put license holders, you know, 843 00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:10.960 in in a place or put them in touch with somebody that can help 844 00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:16.280 with their environmental quality within their facilities. That you know that that's the kind 845 00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:19.559 of things that you know, we want to be able to offer. And 846 00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:23.480 also where free resources are, like where you can go read about HHS and 847 00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:29.599 where there are like literal mobile there's like companies that do like mobile fit testing 848 00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:34.079 and stuff, so you could have actual masks and stuff that are fit tested 849 00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:38.920 specifically for your employees to mitigate any kind of you know issue respiratory issues that 850 00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:43.320 will come directly to the facility, so you don't have to send your employees 851 00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:45.880 all over the place. Like there are all kinds of stuff out there. 852 00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:49.880 And I know, being free are like the craziest thing ever because like you're 853 00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.880 getting like you're basically, hey, come in process all this to make sure 854 00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:54.760 we're being safe. And it's like I get that people are probably nervous about 855 00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:57.719 that, but it's like if they're not gonna they're pretty much saying, hey, 856 00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:00.280 we'll check it for free, fix the issues before you get you know, 857 00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:02.360 And that's dude. And they're really in depth too, so like they 858 00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:07.039 do like skin like they do like testing air quality testing over the court, 859 00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:09.760 not just like one day or anything like they come in over the course of 860 00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:16.440 months, they medically evaluate every worker in the facility. It's air quality, 861 00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:22.360 it's everything. Like it takes a while. And again the main thing is 862 00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:28.920 their findings are not binding to the business. You don't have to do anything 863 00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:31.679 that they say. All that information, though, is published on their website. 864 00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:36.039 So there's a whole area where you can go look up hgs and you 865 00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:40.199 can find cannabis cultivation hch's on there, like the results of those things too, 866 00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:44.360 So like they're like, hey, here's what you can do to make 867 00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:46.360 it better. You don't have to, but like here, and that's so 868 00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:51.440 great because if you're building a new facility and you're like, man, I 869 00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:52.719 don't want to get people sick, what do I do? I can just 870 00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:58.320 go and look up all those other health hazard evaluations and see what was told 871 00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:01.280 and said to these other you know, found to be like the most safest 872 00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:05.599 conditions for that particular build out. And I mean, I think that is 873 00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:10.280 invaluable information as somebody you know that is a cultivation license holder, you know, 874 00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:16.559 that would be crazy start No, because it's all circles back to if 875 00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:21.559 they care, if they care what they want making money, they have to, 876 00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:24.400 that's what That's what I'm saying. They really should take forefronts on some 877 00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:30.280 of these big country or country companies treating their people right because it's a it's 878 00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:32.480 it's a it's a cohesive relationship. At that point, you know, it's 879 00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:36.960 too one sided. I love what y'all are doing, So thanks, I 880 00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.760 appreciate you. Yeah, I'm super super pumped for you and when you're looking 881 00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:43.880 ahead for you in twenty twenty four with cannabis workers resource and what you're bringing 882 00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:45.599 to the industry, because I think it's something that we didn't even talk about. 883 00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:50.519 One thing we didn't ask her was the future question or the funny question. 884 00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:52.360 Yeah, we have two more questions, all right, because we think 885 00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:54.360 we could continue, we'll have to bring it back on stage. Yeah, 886 00:59:54.599 --> 01:00:00.159 a lot we can do this for. Yeah, it's a lot of there's 887 01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:01.360 a lot of injust things. And you know, even though we know we 888 01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:04.920 know about some of it, hearing from you, you're like, we didn't 889 01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:07.960 know some of it. You got the false right on the workers like heartbeat 890 01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:10.679 of the world. That's that's a lot about when you talk about the labor 891 01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:14.000 that's or the union. Excuse me, the union. That's kind of like 892 01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:15.559 what it was meant to do, you know, right, not righting up 893 01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:19.400 for the dollars, staying up for the people providing those dollars. Yes, 894 01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:22.880 yes, yes, you know there's there's you know, I'd love to come 895 01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:27.519 out again and talk about how workers can either form their own union or join 896 01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:30.400 a union. That's a whole other conversation that, you know, we could 897 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:32.400 have it another time exactly, also very very important. We always wanted to 898 01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:36.320 talk about unions and stuff too, Like, yeah, you don't that'd be 899 01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:38.559 good for us audience. So really, just like for the is there anything 900 01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:43.519 any events, anything that you want to like Horizon for twenty twenty four with 901 01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:46.480 seed CWR, like anything you want to discuss or anyone you want to shout 902 01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:50.239 out you know, I don't know, I just you know, well yeah, 903 01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:52.559 so yeah, yeah, no, I appreciate the question. As far 904 01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:57.000 as the future is concerned, a lot of things are happening now. There's 905 01:00:57.599 --> 01:01:01.519 finally this is finally getting a little a little bit of the attention that it 906 01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:06.280 deserves, and it's only going to get bigger from here. So I'm trying 907 01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:13.159 to I'm still taking sponsors to go out to kash Khan which is in Baltimore, 908 01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:17.800 Maryland, December fifth through the eighth, and it has a lot of 909 01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:27.039 training specifically in health and say these standards you know, within manufacturing and business 910 01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:30.679 here in America. So that is something that I would love and need to 911 01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:36.000 attend, you know, in order to bring that kind of knowledge over to 912 01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:38.440 the cannabis industry to really help businesses and workers, you know, take things 913 01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:43.880 to the next level. So definitely taking sponsorships for that and definitely going to 914 01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:51.159 Vegas County. CWR is going everywhere at the end of this year and in 915 01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:53.920 twenty twenty four, there's definitely a lot like I'm going to be in the 916 01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:58.480 places that you would not expect me to be. I'm going to be in 917 01:01:58.519 --> 01:02:01.480 the places that you expect me to be and everywhere in between. Hell yeah. 918 01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:06.760 Labor Notes there's a big Labor Notes convention in Chicago every year in April. 919 01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:10.079 It's around for twenty as well, so I would love to be going 920 01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:14.960 to that, plan on it. So there's there's a lot going on for 921 01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:17.119 for twenty twenty four and it's definitely going to be the Year of the Worker. 922 01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:21.880 I like that. I'm excited for you about time, right, right, 923 01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:24.800 it's been about the dollars for a while. We'll have the link up 924 01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:29.039 in Vegas. We'll be out there. Yeah, and you you got to 925 01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:30.559 ask the funny question this day. I got it. And it's not it 926 01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:35.159 isn't a funny answer. It's a funny way to look at it. Yeah, 927 01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:37.800 go ahead, all right. So we asked every guest this, everyone 928 01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:40.960 that's been on. So imagine you're about to You're opening up a package, 929 01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:45.760 grinding up some butd you tap the grinder and a Ganza genie pops out. 930 01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:49.559 You get one wish? Only one wish? We already have feel like, 931 01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:51.000 can I get multiple? Which is what they wish? No? No, 932 01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:53.960 get one wish? What would you do? What and you could change anything 933 01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:58.960 in the industry for cannabis, What would you do in an instant? Yeah, 934 01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:00.800 in an instant like that day? That second we always the reason why 935 01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:04.639 we do one than three because people with three, you could kind of make 936 01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:09.679 it all work, right, you could, like, right, I would 937 01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:17.679 UH because there's so many problems immediately implement UH standardization standards. I prefer UH 938 01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:23.199 Focused standards. Focused Standards is a nonprofit started by Leslie Ingleking and She specifically 939 01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:30.360 wrote standards for the entire cannabis industry across the board, assuming that companies would 940 01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:35.079 want to do everything correctly. And it's now at the point where she's like, 941 01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:37.599 they don't. Nobody wants to do anything correctly, and it doesn't even 942 01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:40.400 make any sense. So I would implement standards because it would it would do 943 01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:44.679 everything that we're talking about. It would make everything better. It would be 944 01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:49.280 overmediation. You don't need remediation if you have people that have been trained and 945 01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:52.840 if you have the proper environment and you have the right amount of workload. 946 01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:59.880 Yeah, exactly, remediation. So standardization whole day. Yeah, I like, 947 01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:01.719 get Actually that's it. I agree. There's a lot of things that 948 01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:06.159 like that type of stuff is is heat that could change like a massive amount. 949 01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:12.079 So again I'm gonna scream it till forever. Decriminalize it. Yeah, 950 01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:16.679 rescheduling it deschedule. Excuse me, don't reschedule because like the n they like, 951 01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:19.679 once that's descheduled, all this other stuff. It's like it has to 952 01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:23.239 be because then it's forced at that level, at that let you know, 953 01:04:23.320 --> 01:04:27.000 and then when it being illegal at the federal level, it sucks. I 954 01:04:27.199 --> 01:04:30.559 know, it's gonna be twenty twenty four is going to be interesting presidential election 955 01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:35.360 too, So it will. We won't bore you guys that right now because 956 01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:41.239 I'll be coming up. Thank you, yeah, thank you for coming on 957 01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:43.639 STA. This was a great time. This was a blast, was awesome, 958 01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:46.719 This was fun and as always Grewpy. We're here to advocate, educate, 959 01:04:46.880 --> 01:05:00.599 and inspire. It's next time. All peace, as