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Welcome to Eye on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm

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Steve Rivera. He's Jenkins oh Us
with us again today, is said Jay,

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I want to test your trust level
today, Steve. All I can

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say is the sun came up today. I did it. I thought the

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same thing and I'm thinking, but
produce a lot of two sonans. Well,

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it's like it's always that way,
isn't it. I'm going to get

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it. You don't expect to lose
to Washington State. You don't expect to

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lose Washington State at home. You
don't expect to lose Washington State when you're

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playing for first place in the league. You don't expect to lose Washington State

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when you're acting umberform in the country
and they're looking at a number one seat.

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But they did. They found a
way. Sure, they found many

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ways to Yeah, you know so
many things right, so many things you

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could count to about four or five
different things, maybe even more why they

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lost the game. And it's funny
because you heard the press conference right how

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they were kind of breaking down in
every possession almost mattered. Uh, and

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it kind of did. But it
doesn't work that way in games. As

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Tommy pointed out. But the bumbled
free throw or lay up or whatever Love

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had the thing about, they don't
talk about. He came back on the

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next position hit a three pointer,
so he covered the difference. He covered

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it, So forget that. I
mean there's a lot of the foul in

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the corner, follow in the corner
that that's the one that sticks out because

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it happened at the end. You
can't do that. Can do that it

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ultimately cost him the game because if
it makes the free makes that shot and

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there's no free throw, you know
you're going down and you're taking the last

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shot. You know the game possible, win it right, right, A

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lot of a lot of So So
I text you, I texted you.

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I don't know if you saw my
text, because then you talked about the

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airport team. I thinking you I
saw your text, But then that's why

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you respond why I responded, I
took it off. I took it off

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the other thread. That other person
wasn't interesting. I don't want you to

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change your theory, because that's how
I wouldn't money for the football programs,

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because because they don't look like a
good team, but they play as well

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as a team can play well.
Isaac Jones is a beast that took over.

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Yeah, he's he's a beast.
And you know it's funny because when

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he got his fourth foul. Uh, and look, I hate it when

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coaches think that refs should ref differently
during games. Right, he committed his

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fourth foul and it was a foul, and Kyle Smith is yelling at the

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ref. You took the best player
out of the game. No, the

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best player took himself out of the
game by having four fouls. The ref

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didn't do that. It was a
call. It was a legit call.

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You know, we watched the replace
because we you know, we we have

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the we have the telecast on an
iPad there and it's behind. So was

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that a yes, it was a
foul, you know, and and so

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but I hate it when the coach
says and like, well, like Sean

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Miller did the other day, falls
in a row, Well, because you

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committed five falls in a row.
Right, the falls aren't even well,

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they're not supposed to be even you
call the files the foules. And he

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said that, none of my point
being that Isaac Jones is really damn good.

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You know, they won this game. I shouldn't they won this game

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with with with the kid, the
price or the kid. Yeah, he

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was fantastic too, even though he
had a bad game, but he had

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you know, he had five points. You know, he sat out,

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He sat out a whole bunch of
the game because he wasn't playing well.

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And they won that game because but
because Colin Boswell was was missing again.

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Right, how much trust do you
have in Kylon ball aswell? Not none,

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not much right now, because he's
just not playing well, Steve,

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and I don't know what he hasn't
both he's been in this rut, with

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the exception of a handful of small
handful of games, he's been in a

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rut for weeks now. And and
look, not not intending to put it

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all on him. It's not other
guys play well. Sure, guys got

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to make free throws. Guy's gotta
not fill three points shooters, Guys got

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to make a layup, right,
All those things. But you know he's

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got to play better. They're they're
going to be in big trouble. There's

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no question this team is uh is
it should be a better team because of

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all the parts, even if one
part is missing. Uh, there's too

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much to ask for Caleb to show
up and do his thing to And you

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know you have kJ who is very
good who can fill in a spot,

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and Bradley was was Bradley I guess, But but Boswell needs to be better,

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isn't that? But in that what
we were saying way at the at

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the at the beginning of the year
that this is the team that has so

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many pieces. One piece can be
missing and they're still really good. Right

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But for some reason, if that
piece is they're not really good. No,

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they need all the We've realized that
we have to change that tune or

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rewrite our story because everybody needs to
be playing well. And the thing about

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it is, and I've said this
before, Jay, that first game against

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Duke set expectations that were probably unrealistic. So you come home thinking that we're

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going to be gangbusters. They play
Alabama really well, Wisconsin really well,

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We're gonna be great. They're gonna
Purdue. They got to see a flaw

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in the first flaw we saw,
right, Kennedy fan the perimeter. But

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I think that was the lofty expectations. This team is gonna be great,

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and having talked to some national people, that's what they see. They're not

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seeing what we're They're not seeing the
pimples that we see, right, you

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know, they're seeing the games.
Wow, these guys look fantastic, but

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they're not watching lest night's game.
Stephen, Again, I remember, you

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know, going into the conference season, we were thinking, are these no?

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No, I wrote that to day. You wouldn't four games, six

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games total? Never? Right?
And here they are, and here they

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are, and yet who's better than
them to be a possible number one seed?

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Exactly right? I don't know exactly. It seems like I as seem

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that it hurt them, but it
didn't hurt them. They're good enough.

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And then the thing that I hate
the most, and you were a coach,

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all you have to do is play
your best, play well, and

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you're connat. Anybody doesn't work that
way, Yeah, somebody goes in place

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better better. No, And the
thing about Washington State is, as we

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say, you know, we talked
about the old Airport team. They do

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not look like a great team when
they walk on the court. You know,

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you look at their center for number
forty five. Yes, we knew

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Isaac Jones was good. We knew, we knew Rice was good. But

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you know they got beat by bye
by h twenty one. The guy hit

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all the three pointers. Oh yeah, you know he beat He's the one

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to beat him. He had twenty
seven points and get three in the corner.

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Well j Jacob Wells or something like
that. Yeah, it was a

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fantastic game if you had no no
skin in the game. One of my

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buddies turned to me says, I
can see why you know you're not a

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fan. You don't get hurt.
I just want to go the story.

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Yeah, because a lot of dealer
was it was. The crowd last night

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was electric. It was great.
It was great for a nine o'clock round.

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And they went home pissed. They
were mad. They were mad.

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They were throwing stuff on the court. They threw Yeah, they threw stuff

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on the court. Comb man,
But well, I don't know where that

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came from. Promets, you know. But uh, you know again,

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still so so plenty of basketball left
you playing. You and you go play

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and you let it play out.
I turn. I sit between Troy and

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Sheer. I turned and sure,
you know he's a fan, he's he's

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a big I said, Cheer.
Tell me the truth. Now, what

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level of trust you have or belief
you have in this team? And be

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realistic. I'm not he won't mind
me say this, And he said,

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uh, seven. I'm thinking,
hmm, that's pretty good. I figured

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eight in my mind because they're not
great. Yeah, but they're okay and

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things need to happen. But that's
that's not a whole lot of faith in

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a team that you really love.
Yeah, because it's uh, you just

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don't know, you know. I
that was last night was completely unexpected to

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me. Well, yeah, I
said before the game, I said,

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we're gonna win. Yeah, they're
not gonna cover, but they're gonna win.

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Yeah, Caleb Love, what do
you think are you? What about

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your trust? Well? Well,
the thing I still haven't have trusting.

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But part of it is that when
Colein Boswell's not playing well, it's like

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Caleb Loff feels he's got to do
more. He doesn't put the ball,

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he doesn't put the ball in Colin
Boswell's hands as much as you would think

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he should or needs to, he
takes it. He takes it on himself

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too. You know, play over
that, you know, and he takes

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some shots that you know that that
drive down the lane you know where he

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slipped and fell and you know,
and that was that, you know,

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the possession before I think with afterwards
when Love was going to the basket,

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bollow was wide open, wide open. All you had to do is slip

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a pass. But there's several occasions
where he was open on other drives as

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well. That's my issue with love. That's my only issue with love.

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Well. But but you know,
Jane Jayden Bradley does that. You've all

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talked about that, right, you
know, like kJ Lewis goes into the

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paint and once he goes into the
paint sometimes no, no, yes,

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he's going all the way with it. He's not. You know. Well,

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then now you have three guys like
that. That's too many guys to

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be like that. I wanted to
ask you guys, because it seems like

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a trend a little bit late in
games, say there's ten seconds left,

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Arizona's down one or two as this, I don't know, do you think

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Tommy has a good plan in place
or is it more Caleb go go.

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That's what makes it. That's what
it appears to be. No, wait,

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we've asked him that before, but
it was one of the triple overtime

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games. You have a thing,
you know, he did say and it

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didn't happen last night. Rethink about
calling a timeout before, and he didn't

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last night. Right, that's when
the slip came or whatever, and he

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and I thought, is he not
going to call a timeout? And he

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didn't and boom, to your point, apparently not. And it's like,

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I think it's I think it's one
of those field things where you know leuias

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to do that. Yeah, sure, but it's a field thing where you

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think, okay, is it you
know, I'm guessing he goes through that

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decision process every time, can I
call him out here or not? And

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if he's not calling time out,
he's trusting that his guys are going to

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do run their offense and do what
they're sure to do and get a bucket.

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And sometimes he thinks, you know, maybe we need to call time

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out because of what they've been doing
those defense I just think, you know,

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it's a little bit because he has
done that he has called time in

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the pasture set up a play.
So last year when we were at this

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time, what it was the what
was like the big mL of the team

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coming into late February early March.
Do you remember, I think I'll remind

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blowing big leads, blowing they did
to Washington State last year, blowing up.

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What's the overriding theme this year?
The last second failure that second because

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they haven't had many, but they've
lost all those games. I'll bet you

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two to one that they lose in
March on the last position. Game last

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night felt like a game, a
March game, didn't it come on?

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Why would you not be I I'm
willing to bet that because it's happened all

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year and it trends that way.
I caught the very beginning of David Kelly's

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post, you know, the talk
show app post came out after that,

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and he counted up and I don't
know if this is six number. They

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counted up six, six opportunities to
win a game on the last shot,

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and they haven't failed. They've gone
over six. Yeah, yeah, no,

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I heard that too, And actually
I think you have it on the

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on the on the press conmence Brian
asked him because it was four. He

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counted four and he wrote about it. Four last second failures. It probably

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all there were. There were two
just in the three and in the Utah

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two or three in the Utah game, two in the Utah alone. So

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that's that's what my prediction would be. Because here's the theme. And and

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remember at the beginning of year and
I wrote this, and I can't remember

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his phrase that Tommy wanted to avoid
or have a lot of wiggle room.

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He didn'tus wiggle room, but a
lot of He wanted to beat the crap

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out of teams, so just in
case they failed late, they'd be Okay,

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Well that's not the issue now,
it's getting your tone is really for

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the end. Yeah, they're not
winning the close games that were the one

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possession games at the end where there
may be plays there. But again last

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night, it seemed like whether the
play broke down or or what. But

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it seemed like Caleb was going to
they basically said, let's make a play

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right here. It's what it felt
like. The slip and they slipped and

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all that. And he had a
mediocre game. He had a lot of

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points, but he shot a lot. He took a lot of shots shots

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and took him to make a three. And do you like that? I

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trust him and takes your shots more
than anybody else on the team. Sure,

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when Boswell taking last night, Boswell
took a couple where you just kind

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of scratched your head as well,
early, very early in the shots.

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You know, they just they just
didn't play as well they needed to play

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to win the game. And that
it's as simple as that. Tommy Persher

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pretty much said that to your point, to your point though at the beginning,

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you don't expect this to happen here. Yeah, that's it, and

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that's the thing, and that's the
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to get swept. I watched him
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might be the conference champion. So
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I shouldn't State wins the conference championship, it's because they swept Arizona and they

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were good enough to do that,
right, you know. And so you

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know, your hats off to those
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really have to, you know,
take your hat off to those guys.

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Okay, so let's go. We
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We've got a good show today,
actually a very good show. We're not

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at the casino. That's right,
We're not at the casino. Don't come

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to the casino. They have some
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so we had to just go ahead
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Yeah. So here in the first
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we're gonna have Andy Bagnado. He
and I spent some time with the

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n Cuba people about twelve of us
voting and balloting and all this for the

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mock mock brocket for the upcoming tournament
in Phoenix, and we'll get more into

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that. You can ask the questions. And then in the second hour,

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Jim liven Good, Yeah, Jim
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him about because he was the head
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Things have changed, but just how
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Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, he's Jacobsauce and

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now on the phone, we have
and the BEG Model, one of the

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final four media consultants. I spent
some time with them over the last couple

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of days and we were part of
a big cool thing drawing up the mock

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bracket for this upcoming event. Andy, how are you? I'm doing good?

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And Jay, the company you keep
these days. I can't help it

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and I can. You know,
I keep trying to figure out what am

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I doing with my life and I
get to have any answer. He sold

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and sold to the devil. Baby
he seld and sold to the devil.

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I'm telling you, Jay, I
feel for you. But I'm glad I'm

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here and you're there. That's all
I'm gonna say. Yeah, for some

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reason, I keep showing up.
So why didn't you explain to the listener

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that we have, what we went
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of days ago. Oh yeah,
So it was. It was very cool,

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and thank you Steve for coming up
and making that tedious drive up here

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for that. But as part of
the ncaa sort of outreach for the upcoming

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twenty twenty four Men's Final four in
Glendale, UH, they are offering a

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mock selection committee for the media.
And you guys know, they've been doing

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this for years in Indianapolis back when, back when I was a writer,

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I never was able to get down
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even though I was just up the
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is to to sort of take the
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what goes on in the selection room, slection committee room on that week before

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uh the selections are announced. And
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to bring it to the local market
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And I'm really glad they did it. I thought we had a good

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turnout. There were a few people
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minute, being media members. They
had news come up. But I'd ask

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you, Steve, I mean,
what did did you get you? You

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know, you're the guy who's been
covering basketball literally your whole career. What

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did you learn the other day?
I mean, you know, it was

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fascinating. I did have some questions
for them, and and they're always there's

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always a contrarian in the room,
and Andy was one of those. And

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I'll get to that later. But
I was under the depression that I asked

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Woodward, right, is that who's
the warlock, David war Warlock? That

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I thought for years that it was
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the last ten games, or the
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lot of the recency bias stuff.
Well that's changed. It's the whole season.

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So that Duke game means, Man, it matters, it doesn't.

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You're not gonna forget that. So
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I don't know if you felt this
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with our computers that I felt a
little stress and who I was picking,

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oh, one hundred percent of you, even though to be clear to everybody

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listening or all three of you,
the uh, the this isn't this bracket

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doesn't go anywhere, right, So
but yeah, I was I was thinking.

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First thing is I didn't want to
look like an idiot, right,

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like somebody and David is very funny
and he's a super professional. But I

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didn't want somebody going who put the
College of Charleston in here or something like

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that. And you know, I
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think I might have told a couple
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if you want your dinner served,
you better have the cast in your

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field. But because we did have
a dinner, but but jokingly, but

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yeah, I did. Oh,
absolutely what I got a new respect for

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And I've always had respect for what
the committee goes through, just in terms

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of the scrutiny and everything else.
But really, you got to know what

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you're doing here, and I think
it's pretty clear that they do, you

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know, I mean I think they
do. Yeah. So, how close

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to the process, to the actual
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that what? It was? Tronical? You guys are trying to create that,

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right? It was identical. It
was identical. So essentially, Jay,

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all of the all of the steps
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the votes, the naming of you
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then the then you see the rest
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they go? Like, you know, why why does my school get sent

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to Providence when it's a bus ride
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Right, all of those things came
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process. Now, obviously we don't
know yet who's going to win the conference

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tournaments from the one did leagues,
right, So I think the assumption Steve,

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if I remember this right, I
don't want to misquote it. But

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wasn't it whoever's leading, didn't they
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Is that how? Yeah? The
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and then you can you can you
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Uh oh, yeah, you know
you can't play in conference whatever, you

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can't play near this stadium whatever,
or if you're in the same conference,

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you can't play before a certain round, right right, right, all that,

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and it was the travel well and
then well travel but then your next

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guest after me. Uh. He
remembers an episode with the b YU rule,

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right, which is that's not a
rule, that's the wrong way to

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put it, but the request that
they don't play on Sundays for the reasons

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that they stayed and so David went
over all that. But I thought it

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was fascinating when they're populating the bracket
with the teams and this is all now

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computerized. One of the eNCA officials
in the room, LJ. Wright,

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said that when he started the NCAA, there was no computer system. They

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had Velcrow and they would put a
team's name on the on you know,

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say Pittsburgh in the three seed,
and then oh wait, we can't do

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that for this reason, so they
pull it off the board and move them

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to somewhere else as a three seed. And he said, we killed Forest,

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right. Steve was at the line
that we killed Forest with all the

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printouts, because every time something would
change, you know, Duke would lose

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in a conference tournament or something,
they'd have to print out an entirely new

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team sheet. So no, it's
it's it's it's totally uh computerized. It's

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fascinating. And what we did we
only did for three hours. We kind

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of did a rush thing, but
it was everything that was identical. They'd

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take five days and one thing would
let's the super second last night's game with

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Washington State would happen late, right
late in that Saturday night thing. They'd

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have to throw a wrench into this
and kind of change things. Right.

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One of the guys I won't name
names who was in the room, fought

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fought for a fought or how thought
that there was only should be the number

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one overall seed and we're thinking,
no, that's not gonna happen, right,

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And then there's kind of a vote
of that stuff. In fact,

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you go ahead and say what you
thought. So I had I think,

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what did we do Steve? Was
it was due number one overall, so

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Houston over number one, Ukon number
two, right right. So the way

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it works, Jay, is that
once you have the seed line, so

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one, two, three, four, those are your top four seeds,

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did they go down? It's called
scrubbing, and so the the someone in

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00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:47.680
the committee can raise their hand and
say, I make a motion to move

409
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:53.920
Yukon from two to one, okay, and so is there a second yes?

410
00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:57.720
And then they take a vote and
it's a majority rule. So if

411
00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:00.920
a majority looked at it says yeah, Yukon should be two or should be

412
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:04.119
one, then they flip them and
they do that all the way through to

413
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sixty eight. So yeah, so
what now we didn't do that. We

414
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:11.279
didn't do that because of time contract. But yeah, I just wanted to

415
00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:15.599
see how it works. So I
raised my hand and I think Rivera was

416
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:19.839
the folks that voted me down,
but I'm not listening. My son in

417
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:23.160
law is a Yukon fan. But
but I just wanted to see how it

418
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:30.079
worked, and it was pretty cool. So I mean, coming out of

419
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.200
this, did you just learn that
this is a really complicated, detailed,

420
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:41.640
even tedious process. What would you
say, Steve? Yeah, and it's

421
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:44.799
just struck. I said, I
had no skin in the game, know

422
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:48.720
nothing, and I was stretched a
little. It's odd. It was odd

423
00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:52.559
because, like like Andy said,
no one's seen my screen except for the

424
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:56.039
people taking Italian and they don't.
They don't. It's not that they don't

425
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:57.880
care, they're not. They don't
care about the votes and it's our votes.

426
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.480
And I'm thinking, how how could
bias not be involved? One I

427
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:06.400
asked that question, right, and
two I guess there's no wrong answer.

428
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:11.440
Yeah, well, yeah, I
think, I think. And I used

429
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:15.640
to sit there on deadline as a
reporter for the Chicago Tribune and in a

430
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:19.599
sense critique their work in real time. Right, So we get the bracket

431
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:22.279
and I'd sit there and my first
thought would be, oh, my gosh,

432
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:26.000
look of Night in Indiana are playing
one of his assistants in the second

433
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:29.839
round. If they both win,
oh they must have set that up right.

434
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:33.400
Well, twenty years later, I
know what a ludicrous statement that was,

435
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:38.680
because I can see how they really
do get boxed into matchups because of

436
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:42.000
their principles, right, So yeah, you can't have conference teams played before

437
00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:45.359
a certain point. You can't have
what was it, Steve, If it's

438
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:49.519
a Thursday Saturday, they can't play. Or if it was a Friday Sunday,

439
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:52.920
you don't want to have tom played
Thursday. So it's it's and then

440
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.319
there's the MILEX thing, which they
didn't do. You used to do what

441
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:59.240
I was a reporter. They you
would just the East Region. It would

442
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:03.519
all be East team means or the
sub regionals. That's not the case anymore.

443
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:06.160
In one building, you could have
a West region game right and the

444
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:11.519
game right depending on the distance.
So I realized that some of the things

445
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:14.839
that I probably wrote back in the
day, maybe more than some, were

446
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:19.240
like totally uh you know, and
the conspiracy theories and all that stuff.

447
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:23.400
I mentioned that I make sure good
fan fodder, but I don't think that's

448
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:27.079
really what's going on. Because I
mentioned that because Tommy could play Gonzaga if

449
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:30.640
there and I'm thinking, you know, people are going to think about this

450
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.559
and this is no, we don't, we don't want to. I mean,

451
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.559
how how many did we how many
times did we hear they need to

452
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:38.960
get a loot and and uh and
Bobby Knight in the same brackets so they

453
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:44.240
can play each other and stuff like
that, you know, right. It

454
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.680
was a lot of fun though.
One of the things they talked about Maryland,

455
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:51.640
who was the tortoise in the hair? I can't remember who? Uh

456
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:56.559
gosh, who was? Who was
it was with be like North Dakota State

457
00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.079
or somebody Jack Rabbits or somebody somebody
like that. And someone someone called the

458
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.200
NC doublea like that Sunday night and
couldn't find him, called and harassed the

459
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:07.000
guy that we're talking about, the
Warlock. It says, we know what

460
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:08.039
you're doing, we know what you're
doing, and says, what are we

461
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:11.480
doing? You know? We didn't
respond, and it was you put the

462
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:18.720
tortoise, Marilyn against these guys because
it's the tortoise in the hair. Wow,

463
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:23.440
it got down to that. Yeah. See, And I think,

464
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:27.519
as you said Andy a minute ago, that that would be probably the more

465
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:33.599
telling thing than anything. How ludicrous. A lot of these theories and arguments

466
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.240
and assumptions and things like that have
been you know, over the years,

467
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.400
and no matter how often the committee
members come out and say, look,

468
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:47.240
we just put together the bracket that
we you know, and we weren't looking

469
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:52.640
at somebody playing somebody during X round
because their arrival or something, and and

470
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.279
you know, and nobody believes them. You know, I'm saying nobody,

471
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:59.799
but a lot of people don't believe
that that's actually the case. They have,

472
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:02.880
you know, they have doubts that
they really don't look at that.

473
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:06.880
Well, you know, it's funny
you say that. Jay I was standing

474
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:11.119
there watching as the bracket was populated
and the second round I think was it

475
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:15.799
Steve. As a writer, I
would always want to go to where the

476
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.240
great games were going to be,
right, so I would look on there

477
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:21.359
and I was fortunate at the Chicago
Tribune, I was the lead writer for

478
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:25.480
many years on the tournament, and
so I could basically pick my spot.

479
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:27.599
My first question was where was Arizona
going to be? Because I didn't want

480
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:32.400
to be with Rivera on Press Rose. I good, No, many times

481
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:36.279
I saw the Cats over the years, but I would look at matchups and

482
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:40.640
say, oh my gosh, look
what could be happening on Saturday in New

483
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:44.720
York or whatever. And the one
that one that jumped out of media other

484
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:49.440
night and our mock was South Carolina
versus North Carolina in Charlotte in the second

485
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:55.880
round. Yeah yeah, I mean
can you imagine what that would look like

486
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:59.920
in the real world, right,
I mean the former ACC team South Carolina

487
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:05.720
and North Carolina, the border rivalry
in Charlotte. I mean amazing. And

488
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:07.720
this just happened, right, And
nobody in the room was like, let's

489
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.200
do that. It just happened that
way, right, But the assumption would

490
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:14.559
be that you did that on purpose, sure, for sure? Correct?

491
00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:15.839
I would think, yeah, yeah, you're right. Well here's another thing,

492
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:19.119
and I think this is we can
talk about this because it's a mock.

493
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.559
We had the West East blah blah
blah. The East was loaded,

494
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.400
loaded, but it wasn't loaded because
the teams are good. It was it

495
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:29.599
was the top three of the top
four or four. We're all blue bloods,

496
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:32.440
were all blue bloods. This is
this never happens well because the blue

497
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:36.240
bloods aren't taken issue. A bunch
of mine aren't as good, right,

498
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:39.319
so they just hasn't been that good. Kentucky has been exactly North Carolina and

499
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:43.519
they were all in the same bracket
at the least. It was like,

500
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:45.480
well, and don't you know,
don't we always say, you know,

501
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:47.319
that the bracket comes out right,
and one of the first things that that

502
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:52.039
starts getting talked about is which is
the toughest bracket? Right, we went

503
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:54.799
through that too, go ahead and
explain that. And well, that was

504
00:32:54.880 --> 00:33:00.000
interesting because they the one of the
I think, as I remember Dave exploded

505
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:04.839
it, they want to make sure
that there we spend a certain range on

506
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:09.640
the six seeds, right, so
the overall seeds, and you don't want

507
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:13.920
to have you know, one heavier
than the other or you know, much

508
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:19.480
heavier. And like you said,
they don't publish that, I think,

509
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:23.799
but it's if you're really dialed into
where how how the seating goes, you

510
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:27.680
can some of the experts could figure
it out right. In other words,

511
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.880
they could look at it and say, oh, the East is much better

512
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.839
than the than the west, or
or you know, the West is very

513
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:36.920
weak this year or whatever. So
one of the things that they want to

514
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.200
do for equity is to just make
sure that those are as close as possible.

515
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:42.799
And that was another thing I think
we saw Steve, is how that

516
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:46.319
is tough because you have all these
other restrictions on you about you know,

517
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:53.359
the conference teams playing and another factors, and suddenly it becomes well, they

518
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:57.480
have you know, this team has
to fly from who was it? There

519
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.440
was somebody in the southeast that had
the fly to Spokane. I can't remember

520
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:02.319
who was. Steven Like, well, that's not going to go over all,

521
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:06.160
but that's where you're going, where
you're going. That's how the that's

522
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.079
how the bracket shook out. Well, regarding this balance thing, ours,

523
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:15.039
ours had one one area where it
was a little the number was too too

524
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:16.800
far, too too much, like
he was saying, there's a number,

525
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:22.000
and they looked at it and tried
to fix it, but it couldn't be

526
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.559
fixed. So either the the committee
says, okay, we can do this

527
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:28.800
to this or they just have to
leave it alone, right because it's not

528
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:31.519
possible. And what about the thought
or not the thought andy the process?

529
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:37.159
About how many teams from a conference
get in? Right, it's so often

530
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:39.280
you see that, Well, how
did you know nine big you know,

531
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:43.760
big ten teams get in and only
two PAC twelve teams get in. You

532
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:45.960
know, how does that happen?
Well, because the big ten has cloud

533
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.320
and they got money and you know, and so did the a CEC and

534
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:53.679
whatever. You know, I explain
sort of the conference affiliations if those even

535
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:58.840
come into play. Well, I
thought of Steve on this one, but

536
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:02.039
I don't think they did in the
play that they no, because it's all

537
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:07.000
voting. It's all voting. They
have this massive numbers of teams that are

538
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:10.639
are good enough to be in the
tournament, and then it's all the twelve

539
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:15.719
people voting for unless you're involved,
unless you're a commissioner involved in the right,

540
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:19.199
you're not allowed. So we could
have eleven voters, could have ten

541
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.360
voters, and it's the voting of
the teams to get in. So it's

542
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:25.719
not it's it's just if you're good
enough. And it's not eye test.

543
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:30.480
They said, do not it's not
an eye testing. This is a is

544
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:34.239
a head to head analytics, YadA
YadA. They have all those sheets on

545
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.639
the board. It's crazy, and
you can call and we did this.

546
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:42.320
Numerous people in the room did this. There's the NCAA staff who are there,

547
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:47.400
the championship staff, and you can
say, pull up Yukon and Purdue

548
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:52.480
and they put them up on the
board and you can look at all of

549
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:54.880
the metrics for both teams had to
head. And I think one very interesting

550
00:35:54.960 --> 00:36:00.199
common which was from LJ. Wright
was that if you are going to whatever

551
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:06.800
you're using as a as a metric
that you believe is most important or two

552
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:12.199
top things or whatever, be consistent
from your first vote until your last vote.

553
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:16.119
So let's just say your biggest metric
is the predictive. You know,

554
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:21.960
the predictive metrics. Okay, that's
so I'm going to judge the teams that

555
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:27.920
do that. If it's road wins, conference road wins, if it's a

556
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:31.840
bad losses, like I really hold
bad losses against a team, but be

557
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:37.480
consistent. Don't don't judge one team
against with that and then another team on

558
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:39.559
a different thing. And I thought
that was fascinating too, because there are

559
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:43.440
so many ways to judge. Right, Oh, that it was a terrible

560
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:45.400
loss, I'm going to hold that
against them, or a road it is

561
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:47.880
hard to win on the road,
even though they lost them maybe not a

562
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:52.639
quality opponent on the road. So
it's I just came away with. I

563
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:54.880
mean, the NCA Tournament to me
is the greatest sporting event in this country,

564
00:36:55.000 --> 00:37:00.639
and I came away with so much
more respect, even though I had

565
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:05.199
a ton to begin with. For
what the job facing the committee every year

566
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.320
is so real quick We got to
go. Last night Arizona lost. We

567
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:13.239
all know that they were the there
were a number one seed. Do you

568
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:15.039
think they we would be able to
hang on to a number one seed after

569
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:21.800
last night? That is beyond my
pay grade. I'm gonna defer that one

570
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:25.280
to the committee, right, So
we'll see. I mean, it was

571
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:30.159
a big loss, so we'll see
how it holds on in three weeks.

572
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:35.800
Andy, thanks a bunch, and
this was fow. This was very fun.

573
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:38.280
Thank you. We'll catch up down
the road and I'm looking forward to

574
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:44.400
seeing both of you here in Glendale
in about a month and what like forty

575
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:46.199
five days or forty three I've lost
track, so it will be there.

576
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:52.119
Yeah, thank you. You're buying
a beer. Thank you as always.

577
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:57.079
Thank you. That was mister Andy
McDonell. Was he in charge of this?

578
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:00.440
No, No, he's the pr
agent for the n C double that's

579
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:04.800
coming in right. They handle like
that's but he's participantly here, Yeah,

580
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:07.480
he participant right now. All right, that was very that was very informative

581
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.800
and fun. So we'll be right
back. We'll take your costs five to

582
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I mean, iHeartRadio WAFT. This
is I on the Ball with Steve

616
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:44.360
Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports
fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to

617
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:46.280
I on the Ball here Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, he's Jake.

618
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:51.239
You've got Sid doing his work for
us. We've got about eleven minutes.

619
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:53.760
We're going to try to reach George
Montis, who's at the casino.

620
00:40:54.239 --> 00:41:00.719
They start their big showtime cards of
festivities, these internet issues for his for

621
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:05.519
yeah. Yeah, but what he's
able to do, uh, because he's

622
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.679
a separate to the casino obviously use
hot spots and things like that. Yeah,

623
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:13.440
but it's a big deal going down
to the casino, you know.

624
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:15.760
I hope they hope they figure it
out. They figure it out. Yeah,

625
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:19.440
Okay, we're just gonna touch basement. He'll be like our man on

626
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.239
the scene. That's where we're supposed
to be today and we'll talk. We'll

627
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:25.880
talk to him just briefly about what's
going on, because I know we have

628
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.280
some of the athletes here the next
couple of days out there and uh,

629
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:34.159
and then we'll get to the get
to the Tommy Lloyd clips. Uh.

630
00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:37.920
So okay, so good. We're
gonna try to reach him out now and

631
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:40.920
then uh, let's see what happens. Uh and we'll talk more if you

632
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.039
want to give us a quick call
in the second hour, in the second

633
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:47.400
hour, and we can talk about
what happened last night. Your thoughts on

634
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:51.880
on what, you know, craziness
we saw there that was you know,

635
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:54.760
uh, that was a crazy game. I mean it just was, Yeah,

636
00:41:55.280 --> 00:42:00.519
it was. It was a crazy
game. Did you Was there a

637
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:02.840
point there where you thought the Arizona
was gonna win the game? There was

638
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:07.639
a point and I think Tommy alluded
to it in his in his press conference,

639
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:08.440
there was a time where you looked, I thought, Okay, this

640
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:12.199
is where they're gonna make the second
half. Yeah, you're saying, Okay,

641
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:13.960
they're gonna make the run, they're
gonna pull away, They're can get

642
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:17.599
up by ten big bus in there
in there, and that they that that

643
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:22.599
that would try again that that would
be this is it, this is where

644
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:24.280
we're gonna win the game. And
then then the next thing, you know

645
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:28.519
why, Washington State was on a
little run and they get the lead back

646
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:31.000
and Arizona just never, you know, never, uh, you know,

647
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:34.320
got it. You probably didn't read
me today, right, you're too busy.

648
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.679
But but I've seen this game a
number of times, especially against teams

649
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:43.280
like this that are kind of stilted, kind of herky jerky. They throw

650
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:47.280
defenses that you're not used to.
It's just kind of like different. Arizona

651
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:51.960
has long been troubled by these type
of teams. Yeah, they are,

652
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:55.239
they are, I mean they just
you know, uh, but you know

653
00:42:55.280 --> 00:43:00.840
what. The George was just good
Georgia there, Yeah, this is George.

654
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:02.960
This is Stephen Jay. Your guys, are you not in the desert

655
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:09.719
right? Yeah? Not yet?
How are things going over there? Oh

656
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:14.360
they're awesome, man, It's it's
just been busy. We just opened the

657
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:16.519
doors at three o'clock and it's been
a busy show so far. All right,

658
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:22.400
So what George mitis from showtime cards? You're at you're at You've got

659
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.320
a show set up over at the
Casino Del Soul. Okay, so what

660
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:29.760
exactly are people coming over there for? What do you got? What are

661
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:31.320
they what are they doing? Who
are they going to see? See?

662
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:36.400
It's exactly what you said, but
a little more. It's called the Showtime

663
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:39.800
Sports Spectacular because it's not just a
card show, your typical like you know

664
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:44.480
sports card show. You see,
uh, you're seeing memorabilia. We're having

665
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:47.960
athletes, we're having voice actors,
we're having meet and greets, we're doing

666
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:54.800
trade days with giveaways. So it's
it's basically an entire experience for anybody that's

667
00:43:54.960 --> 00:44:00.360
into sports, obviously the collector,
but just a sports fan and general you

668
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:07.400
know. So basically we're connecting the
average sports fan with the collectors and just

669
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:13.519
you know, really taking this mainstream
basically because there's I talked to a lot

670
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:16.280
of dealers in there, and they're
from all over Atlanta, Georgia, Alabama,

671
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:23.119
Oklahoma, Connecticut was the furthest one, but Santa Barbara, Orange count

672
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:27.400
like all over. So tell me
tonight that you're going to be there all

673
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.199
night. Who's going to be in
today, who's going to be in tomorrow?

674
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:34.599
And sad Sunday if you go Sunday. So tonight tonight is our big

675
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.239
one. It's Jacob Wilton. He's
with Oakland Aids. You may have not

676
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.519
heard of him, or you may
have. He was drafted at number six

677
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:45.199
overall in last year's draft. He's
with the Oakland Aids. He's their number

678
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:50.079
one prospect right now. He's a
shortstop, either short stop second baseman.

679
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:53.360
But he has a lot of games
where he gets four for four, like

680
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:59.239
he's a hitting machine. Year comparing
them to like Tony Gwynn or Jeters or

681
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:00.920
you know, which is so early. I hate when they do that,

682
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:07.480
but expectations. Yeah, he's coming
in tonight at seven thirty and he's a

683
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:10.719
great young man. Okay, then
tomorrow are you gonna have you a people,

684
00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:15.639
No, not tomorrow. Tomorrow they
play they have a game. That

685
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:17.599
know that that game yesterday. I'm
sure you guys were talking about it.

686
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.360
Yeah, in fact, in fact, we blamed the loss on you,

687
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:27.119
as I recall it. Yes,
said Jason, we needed them to win

688
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:31.280
this whole weekend, but it was
that's a tough one. The stomach one

689
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:35.079
point like that. So they're gonna
go visit you this weekend at all.

690
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:38.239
Yeah, they're gonna be there on
Sunday. On Sunday, at one o'clock.

691
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:43.960
Uh, they're gonna be there,
Umar bo Key, Shot Johnson is

692
00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:51.679
aka Showtime and Paley Larson. Okay, so people want to get autographs,

693
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:54.159
go there, Go there, yep, come there. It's a meet and

694
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:58.840
greet and you can get your photo, sign some autographs, get a basketball

695
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:01.039
sign, get photos signed free,
free, free, free to get in.

696
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:07.519
Uh No, there is an admission
use code CATS all capital letters CATS

697
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:13.239
fifty and you'll get fifty percent off
admission. Use that code. Kids are

698
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.480
always free. Sunday is Kids Day, so we're gonna have a lot of

699
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:21.960
events involving kids. Okay, super
thanks man, all right, you guys

700
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.400
always appreciate it. Okay, thank
you. Yeah, I might be headed

701
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:29.039
down there all right over because you're
going you're going to play poker, maybe

702
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:32.599
play cards, played baseball cards.
We got a time for a couple of

703
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:36.320
clips. Yeah. Let's let's uh, let let's go right at the top

704
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:40.079
with you know, just Tommy's first
introductory remarks after the lost he never sounds

705
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:43.719
as bad as you want as you
want to sound. And you know that's

706
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:45.199
a great point by you, because
I think the same thing. He's like

707
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:50.000
Dictomy almost to her. No,
it's the opposite. But he's not as

708
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:52.880
snarky. Yeah, he just never
sounds as he never sounds as upset as

709
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:55.719
you want to get the early part
because he says, hey guys, yeah,

710
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:59.320
hey guys, yeah, the very
at the very beginning. So here

711
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:04.719
was his initial comments after the post
game hard Fog game. I mean,

712
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:07.599
tip your hat to Washington State.
Uh, you know, obviously we had

713
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.599
opportunities, but you know, they
they've been really good in close games all

714
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:14.480
year, and you know they're a
team on a roll right now, and

715
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:15.840
you know they were able to find
a way. I mean, they made

716
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.519
a bunch of you know, kind
of clutch, big time plays down the

717
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.119
stretch, and you know, and
you know, obviously we still had opportunities

718
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:24.000
and you're up three, you get
him to miss a three, it's a

719
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:27.519
loose ball. You got to come
up with that ball, and then you

720
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:29.920
know they throw it to the corner
and it's just you know, you have

721
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.119
a senior who's a really good player
and a smart guy, key shot just

722
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:37.079
you know, probably got a little
over zealous in his clothes out and you

723
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:38.639
know, ends up found a three
point shooter and the and the kid just

724
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:42.800
was all net. You know.
So, uh, you know, you

725
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.960
got to tip your hat to Washington
State last night. It was a perfect

726
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:51.159
storm. It just was Yeah,
because t shot bless his hard try to

727
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:54.360
try to block it, didn't miss
it, missed it, found it flipped

728
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:59.320
him. Uh, the lamps that
were missed, the slips, the falls

729
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.079
something. Do you believe in destiny
to a degree? Have I asked you

730
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:07.079
that? To a degree? I
believe in it? Last night was one

731
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:09.599
of those destiny games. Like what
like last night was pre ordained to happen?

732
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:15.320
Yeah, yeah, well I can't
tell you why. Yeah, but

733
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:19.039
yeah, too many weird things happened
to make it happen. Yeah, and

734
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:21.440
they all happen, and they all, every one of them happened. Right.

735
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:23.239
We got another couple of minutes we're
talking. We were talking about the

736
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:28.639
one possession games that that that Arizona
has been in and there's one none of

737
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:31.039
them. Well I haven't they won
one, but they haven't hit those last

738
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:34.679
baskets. And you know, he
talked about this game, you know what

739
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:37.519
came down to the last possession.
So here's what he had to say about

740
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:42.599
these one possession games. There's a
lot of ways to win one possession games.

741
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:45.800
And you know when you're up three, you know there's there's too early

742
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:49.880
to file and they missed a shot. You know, you got to get

743
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:51.920
the rebound, and you got to
get the rebound. You come down,

744
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:53.119
you're in the double bonus, and
you know, you make one of two

745
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:57.519
free throws, the whole game changes. You know, you don't and they

746
00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:00.440
go out and make a three and
you foul it if lips on you,

747
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:01.599
I mean, it's that easy.
So you know you do know, yeah,

748
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:04.559
I don't. You don't need to
over complicate it more than that,

749
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:08.360
you know, So, Jay,
one of those things was a battle missing

750
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:13.800
free throws again, right, yeah, And I've always been no, no,

751
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:15.880
and that's why I'm going to go
with it. At some point though

752
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:22.800
specific to him and others, they
may not have been that important in December

753
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:27.599
and January, but now the importance
there are because you know everyone talks about

754
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:31.119
learning lessons and blah blah blah,
at some point they become important. Well,

755
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:34.000
we were seeing that, you know, I mean, we were tracking

756
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:37.559
that. You know, when when
when Larsen misses the free throw Keyshot misses

757
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.280
a couple Kai Kylin Baswa front rimmed
one. I mean, like you know,

758
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.679
Caleb Love missed one, and you're
going, what the hell is going

759
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:47.800
on? You know, And because
we have you know, I have my

760
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:51.760
screen where I and er to the
stats, but then we have three other

761
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:55.400
screen where we've got the stats that
you see on the staff broadcast program.

762
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:59.639
Yeah, and we're watching we're they're
ten for nineteen, you know that.

763
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:01.559
Whatever, And then we get to
this they missed ten free throws and lost

764
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:06.639
by three. You know, you
make one, you make five out of

765
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:08.360
ten, maybe you win the game. Not and and Tommy made the points.

766
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:12.000
If you make those free throws earlier
in the game, that's not how

767
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.079
the game is gonna end. Right, Just because you missed two free throws,

768
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:16.719
if you make those two and you
lost by one, doesn't mean you

769
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:21.400
would have won by one. But
you know, you get down to the

770
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:24.599
end, maybe instead of being down
up three, you're up five, you

771
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:30.199
know whatever. However it happens,
and you know, we and it's just

772
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:32.639
kind of like we were sitting there
going, this is gonna this is gonna

773
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:36.199
hurt, this is gonna cost them, and they're gonna need these, and

774
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:42.159
then still nothinking they were gonna lose, but then thinking they lost and and

775
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:45.920
we we tracked that the entire game, and you got you gotta make those

776
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:49.800
free throws. They wouldn't go away, they wouldn't go away. Yeah.

777
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:52.840
Yeah, Arizona I think was the
largest. Well, it was no more

778
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:54.639
than a couple of possession I think
I think Washington State went up by seven

779
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:57.960
one at one point, but it
was gonna cut it right up, and

780
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:00.480
after that it was no more than
the two possession games either on either side.

781
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:07.360
Who had pretty your uniforms last night? Those are ugly ass great exactly

782
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:12.119
exactly, I know. But it's
not about the ugliness of the uniform it's

783
00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:15.199
just that they wore those uniforms really
well, and that's why they won.

784
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:22.400
That's what they want. I'm gonna
I'm gonna say that the long sleeves that

785
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:24.280
that that the Rice kid was wearing, those are like you know, junior

786
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:29.000
high sleep. Yeah, our baggy. They were long. You know,

787
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:32.039
you don't see you don't see basketball
players wearing long sleeves very often. You

788
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:37.440
see it more like a T shirt. But the kid's pretty good here,

789
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:38.840
you know. I actually I think
he did not play very well last night.

790
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:44.840
No, he's in a long sleep. Another theory, all right,

791
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:45.840
let's take our break. We're coming
back to the top of the hour with

792
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:49.639
breaking news and then Jim Living Goood
coming up in the second hour, so

793
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:50.239
stick around.