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I gotta pulp on my notes here because there's lots stuff here. So what
I'm gonna do is because each kind of I feel like there's like other than
I guess Star Wars, but better for like the movie TV stuff. We
got a little Marvel, we got a little warm Ros DC, we got
Sony Marble, and then just the general oh, trailers and news stuff like
that. So I have put it into sections, and what I'm gonna do
is, I'm just gonna wrap what I've been doing a little bit lately,
when we got so much to talk about in one thing. I'm gonna give
you all the topics and then we're just gonna go whatever you want to talk
about, whatever you don't want to talk about what's everyone mind. So we're
gonna start with marvel Our bread Butter. You know, check out Patren always
bread Butter. So there's a few things going on this week. Hollywood Reporter
dropped a report, and then there's been other rumors and whatnot. So I'm
gonna just give it all to you right here that right now, Kang Dynasty.
We've kind of heard rumblings of this. Sounds like Kang's being dropped from
the title. I don't think it's just gonna be called the Avengers Dynasty,
but that's what's happening. And again it seems like they're still in the back
and forth because his latest report is that they've actually decided now to fully move
away from Kang. I don't know if that's gonna happen. There's variance like
the Beyond or that they might recast, but that's something that's come out.
Javio Bardem is rumored to be the voice of Galactus. The Midnight Sun is
rumored to have no Avengers roster members, so that means no Doctor Strange supposedly
in this lineup. And the other thing is that, apparently due to the
great reception from Figgy and the team, which we should be getting a new
Deadpoll Wolverine trailer soon because a new one just got rated by the trailer uh.
I can't remember their name. It's Trailer Associate, the Trailer Trailer Association
Board, something like that. But they're the ones that like rain. Okay,
this trailer is PG this radarpparently once coming out soon. But apparently with
the reaction the Deadpool and Wolverine, like what they've seen internally, there is
maybe some workings we've already heard about, like the Kang stuff of reworking and
putting Deadpool and Wolverine and Avengers five. And I don't know if this is
gonna be just these two characters with our modern day stuff, or if it's
what we've theorized that maybe the whole Kang dynasty our Avengers seems just gonna get
dropped completely and it's just secret war. It's just kind of part one and
part two. So let me start with you. I threw a lot of
you Galactus, Avengers, Kang stuff or what do you want to talk about
first, sir? I want to talk about Galactus. Oh my god,
I'm fixing my camera. Chill. Here's nine years professional podcaster, and you
can't. She's a weez always catches me off guard, and its just like
screen. This is Taylor. The most Mia is inconvenience and he So let's
go still from So I think, uh, yeah, just Galactus. I
mean, my my experience with Galactus as a character, I can't really picture
him outside of just a few video games really because the only other thing cinematically
speaking that I've been able to see him is just as the giant planet eating
cloud. But he doesn't have a voice in that, or does he?
Ah, really is the first one? Yeah, sure, Yeah, it's
been a good minute. Yeah. So to kind of give a voice to
such a I'm sorry, it's very distracting, especially these frozen shots. So
I just think, yeah, just have a this kind of a voice paired
up with with this Galactus. Because the Galactus character, he's he's more or
less like a celestial that we've seen in Eternals, Right, I think that's
kind of like the am I correct on that. Yeah, I mean,
I don't know if there's actually a relation there, but I think, you
know, thematically quite similar. Quite definitely. The scale, it feels like
that level of scale. Yeah, the scale and the voice attached to it.
Okayye even bigger. So he eats planets, right, I don't know
if those celestials could quite eat a planet. That's wrong if you chop it
up like a meal. And they're born out of planets, but they don't
eat them. I guess right. So I feel like they could though,
because they're like they're massive, smaller planets, moon planets, Like, yeah,
yeah, it means like meat balls to them. It's on their fork.
I I personally, I do think that heavier, Like, let's he's
not been in the MC, so let's get his voice. His voice is
really really awesome. I really think he is a would do a good job
at being able to bring that character to life. I would definitely support that
the Kang title transitioning. I feel like that's that was bound to happen.
I feel like Loki has pretty much wrapped up that character in a way that
we don't need to really revisit that character. I feel like they just they
got the character on Watch, but aside from that ant Man scene post credits
scene, there's really nothing pulling us into that character. I don't think anyone's
gonna be questioning where Kang is anymore than Kang is pretty much ancient history at
this point. So for them to kind of change that title into something else,
I think it'll work because Kang Dynasty was first, and then it was
Secret War was after that, right, yes, yeah, so I mean
it depends. I mean the Secret War titles is not to change, but
it depends too, like how much of Secret War is going to be influenced
by Kang Dynasty? If really was it going to be a lot of Kang
stuff kind of bleeding over into that. The rumor was always well, well
no, Ridge, like if they do that now, The rumored plot was
always Kane Dynasty was our MCU Sacred Timeline heroes, and then Secret Wars was
multiverse heroes and they all come together. It sounds very similar to Infinity War
endgame, where it was gonna be Kang yeah, or like variants whatever they
be. But yeah, it sounds like how in Infinity War a lot of
our main characters like Cap and Iron Man were in the backseat. Which that
was another part of that report too from the Hollywood, which I hate.
They're just like they're having a hard time struggling. They really want characters that
are gonna replace. They're actively seeking characters to replace Iron Man and Captain America
as like the leaders. It's like, well, I think they're all there,
it just doesn't matter, Like I just don't think. I hope they're
just not well, we need Rolverine and Read Richards because those are big comic
book characters. So I am already a little concerned about stuff in that realm
where all we need to introduce some bigger things because we haven't replaced our Men
of cap you know. But that was the rumored plot where I don't think
whatever rumors we heard about that plot of the Avengers films, other than it'll
have multiverse, I don't think any of that's almost true anymore. Now.
I think it's all gonna switch up. And that's why it's just like I
think it's just I'm in a difficult spot because I love Wolverine and Dead Bull.
I think the movie's gonna be great, and I'll take as much as
I Canadam, because why not, right because eventually they'll both be recast,
especially Wolverine, imagine sooner rather than later. Maybe Reynolds can stick around for
quite a while. But I just feel like if the Avengers five film,
Like what I just wonder, is it like already multiverse stuff or is it
like, Okay, we have our team of Avengers and Wolverine and Deadpool dropped
there, and they're like, well Sam and Bree and like doctor Strange,
they weren't big enough, so we also need to make sure like Hugh Jackman
and Ryan Reynolds are there, right, Like I just don't see a win
scenario here other than them, just like we need big stars. But and
then what is the Avengers five we just already multiverse movie? We really never
get an established team Like then, I feel like they're just like killing the
Avengers concept really terribly lately, and this would kill you more. I feel
like it's like it it's not like it's got a lot of hype right now,
eh, Like it's been a long time since we've had Avengers stuff or
I'm not gonna say the main leader, but like a big core member being
our new Captain America has just kind of been on the back burner since Falcon
Winter Soldier. So like is that a strange concept? Like is losing Kang?
I don't know, it's I guess I'll just go now, like I
I felt like this was just an inevitable thing. I always kind of figured
that they're going to be changing the name for that, and I mean transitioning
to maybe more galactus focus thing, Like, it doesn't feel even though we've
had a lot of maybe cliffhangers from what was it Quantumnia with the whole King
Council and stuff. Maybe it's just because it's I was gonna say, it's
been a while. Quantumnia was a year two days ago. Yeah, maybe
just because the hype is diminished throughout whatever reason. Maybe it is just outside
of the the cinemasphere as well, like just many different factors. Maybe it
has brought down my overall excitement. I guesss like four having that Avengers Big
moment with Avengers five, I don't know, Like I think it is just
a multiple of different factors that kind of make me feel this way. It's
it's not so much like damn, it's such a bummer. It's more so
of just okay, it's it's good to kind of know somewhat of a direction
that they could be going good. So does Deadpool Wolverine being add to Avengers
five? Would that get you back in? Like, is that the Kicker
where it's like absolutely, it's not bad news by any means. Like,
I don't think having like there is projects that I could use without, like
the Deadpool thing, because you almost always expect a certain type of humor and
I don't want every single movie, Like if every movie has Deadpool in it,
I feel like the whole the specialty of it would would go down,
at least for myself, Like the humor wouldn't always be hitting if that's just
the standard. But for a big moment like that, especially if you're talking
like Hugh Jackman, like this would be the last chance right to have Hugh
Jackman in like an Avengers team up situation, So I would absolutely take that.
Yeah, it's second personally, last chances, you know. I think
personally I would rather them with maybe the second part, like if it is
still the big Secret Wars event, just just for the possibility of having like
those interactions with many different characters, I would definitely take that over the first
part. But yeah, if you're gonna ask me, would I take them
or not, I would definitely take them in that roster. Yeah, question,
uh, have we we still don't have a writer for Avengers five,
right, uh no, Michael Waldron is writing it. So he he was
writing the Secret Wars but now he's doing both. We don't have a director,
but word is we're supposed to get a director soon. Director dropped out
of Yeah, he dropped out. What's his name? Similarly confirmed he's come
back for two at least like some she too. So you got that going
on. But the rumor is we're supposed to be getting a director for Asperiment
four and Avengers pretty soon. Here. That was the the source saying that.
So and the Spider Man four things still up in air because I guess
there's kind of like a narrative. I guess behind the scenes that if John
Watts is coming back, that means they're going multiverse, and if he's not,
that means they're going street level. So that director coming back could be
pretty five. He wants to change up Sony wants to go with Watts again,
So that could be another telling point where it's It's like to me,
it's like if Wolverine and Deadpool are gonna be Avengers five, I just feel
like they're gonna go the multiverse route, even Spider Man two, right,
because I just feel like that's like you need more of it to make all
sense of this. So it's true, Yeah, it's it's just really tricky
to envision jumping into Avengers five and it being already into the multiverse stuff.
I just feel like we need some set up time, know who our team
is, and we're just looking at the other projects that we have on the
calendar prior to those movies, like we just don't I don't foresee the setup
making a whole lot of sense. How maybe he doesn't need to if it's
just more cheap fan service type of movie, but like, that's not really
what I want. I want there to be some depth there as well.
Obviously it does excite me to hear Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman being on board
for that kind of thing. And maybe if the plot was something like our
Avengers are fighting off against these other it's the classic thing, right, like
the part one is like the Avengers facing off against like Deadpool and these other
multiverse characters that they want to bring in, but then they team up to
fight some bigger thing, you know, like Bat Members, Superman, but
yeah, grander scale with all these characters, and so I don't know that
does seem messy and hard to pull off, but at the same time,
on paper, a lot of the crossover, all the things that we even
saw in Infinney War and Endgame seemed like, how do you pull that off?
And they nailed it, And it was a very different time in Marvel
and different directors and writers and stuff. So we'll see if they could pull
it off. But I feel like that that could work. I'm just trying
to think of, like, what would be the story that makes a whole
lot of sense for five that includes those two multiverse characters on particular, And
I don't know, maybe just even after Deadpool three, it'll makes sense.
I should call it dead Pull the Wolverine. Now that we know the title,
maybe it'll just make sense because if we see how they get dropped off
in the MCU, and maybe it makes a whole lot more sense. And
maybe that's even just something they did later on as a post credit scene,
prior than what the original vision of what that movie was. But they're like
now trying to expedite them into the MCU in a bigger way, and they
can just do that with some post credit scene where they drop them off with
Doctor Stranger whoever it is and boom, then it kind of makes a lot
more sense. But yeah, I we've brought up many times, but like,
I still want to see a lot of these characters that we've been building
and having the origin movies for in the last phase have a chance to interact
with each other in a big way, and ideally before we get to also
throwing Toby and Hugh Jackman in there and all these iconic characters, Like,
give these characters some time to shine, because you're not gonna find someone to
replace Iron Man and Captain America if you don't give anyone the chance, or
you don't try, and if you just shunk sheet, maybe he's maybe he
could be the guy to fill it role, but we've only given him one
movie and no crossovers, Like, it's gonna be hard for him to fill
that if you don't give them the four or five or six projects of setup
and meaningful setup that we got for those other guys who they are trying to
replace currently. Well, that's my worry is I think that's my hope is
that yeah, they find story beats and whatnot, But my worry is that,
you know, Iger recently said, like, oh yeah, we're gonna
be focused on bigger Marvel franchises, you know, stuff in that realm.
That's my worry that they're almost just gonna skip this class of heroes because we're
already gonna have four. The rumors we're getting X Men earlier than we were
going to, so I just and I don't know if we're getting the main
X Men because obviusly we're getting, which we got some Patreon questions about that,
but I just feel that they might just our heroes that we followed,
other than a few of them might end up being like the supporting characters that
were in Finney War and then they all get killed off. An endgame is
just which I guess that was made the rumor, but I did like the
split of Okay our class and then like the Multiverse class. But if it
is just, well, no one's gonna pay to see Sam's Captain America,
which we don't even know because again his movie's not out. But that's just
my worry that I feel like Avengers now that term is just gonna be known
as a crossover term. And to me what I want is, when let's
say, when this phase is done, right, I want there to be
a fantastic forward team, an X Men team, and an Avengers team.
But I feel like they're gonna, like bat, they're gonna bench the Avengers
for a while, and that's not gonna be a thing. It's just gonna
be F four and X Men, which is great because like, yeah,
X Men is fantastic. I love it. But at the same time,
I feel like for years we've been like, oh, man, wouldn't it
be great if we could have them both? Like that's the bummer it is
right now, right, like, oh, it sucks that Wolverine's not around
when Downy and Evans were around. Right, well, you can do that
again where okay, it's not Downy Evans, but whoever the new Wolverine Scatt
and Jean Gray are. You can have the new Evan, you know,
the new Captain America Ironman, you can you have all the toys now,
And I just worry they're gonna like, ah, these toys are a little
old, let's put them away. Or it's just almost like, oh,
we got the real main characters now, even though like the Avengers weren't the
main teams, but they brought them up. But I just feel like they're
like it's a confirmation bias. We're like, oh yeah, they just like
no one kne who the fuck the Guardians of Galaxy were. So it's like
to me, they have like a leg up starting with someone already like Sam
who's established, or like doctor Strange or thor you know. It's like,
I think it's an easier path than it was Phase one to phase three.
I think it's just like quality and what we've talked about before the output.
But I feel that if these rumors are true, I want to see them.
But I almost feel like it's it's like a in case of emergency,
just go get Jackman and Reynolds because everyone loves them, you know, which
fair enough, you know, I can't if you're running a business. I
get it, But I feel like it's kind of a backwards way of thinking.
So right, it's stuff moving forward with that mindset, right, like
trying to recreate that same thing, or just realizing in their perspective maybe they
won't and then panicky. Now, if I had to make a guess,
I'll say that Kang dynasty, they'd changed that name Kang. I just think
if that's truly gonna happen, I just think Kang's gone, there's not even
gonna try, and so that they're just going to abandon it and they can
revisit it in seventeen years. They're really running out of villains at that point.
But I feel like maybe they'll just do what they didn't do with Infinney
War and Game, where they just call it Secret Wars Part one and Part
two. It's kind of boring, but also that is a very iconic com
book run, and just the idea of two posters back to back, of
all these big characters on it and this name, like maybe that could be
the iconic thing. And like, I don't know, I can't really see
them taking the Avengers name out, even if the Avengers aren't really irrelevant part
of it, like the actual team of it. Yeah, I just feel
like that could be the thing rather than us talking about all these iconic Avengers
movies. We just talked about these iconic Secret Wars movies, and that's where
these two movies back to back that get established. So I don't know,
maybe they go wild with it and just drop the Avengers name. It's called
Secret Wars one, two and three into whole trilogy of it. I think
try and ride off some of that Avengers hype still and like use that name,
even if that name with every passing year is losing some of its luster.
Perhaps, yeah, but I don't know. We just did one good
showing and then people are people are gonna be back, So I think they
would still have two different like subtitles, though it's just like maybe the first
part just Secret Wars. Second one is like something about closing it off,
or it's just called Avengers Assemble or something like that, or Wars more Discrete
Wars something like that, non truth Wars. I guess it's Liar Wars.
It's a whole different thing. But I was thinking, like, I don't
do they Are they scared of Secret Wars a name because of secret Invasion,
But like, I don't think they care. I don't think people are going
to make that association. Actually, three or four years when we finally yeah
these movies, I think people are gonna I mean, we already forget about
it, and we talk about this stuff all the time, so I think
the general public will totally forget Secret existence. I think they just go easy.
I think they still do Avengers because I say, I think Avengers is
just like code for crossover movie. Now for them, I think it's of
Ander Secret Wars one and they can do the stupid like the end credits and
then it's like Part one. It's like, well, we all know you're
doing part one, you know, like how Doon did that or it?
But like those were different because we didn't know no where this is. They're
gonna try and make it seem like, oh my god, there's another punt
coming that you guys have been filming for a year. I mean a lot
of the people in the theater might not know that's true. That could be
the surprise angle of it. Yeah, with Hobby Er, because we're gonna
go on to Maddie's question, I think it's I think it's good. I'm
all for the Galactus being a villain and F four because I'm always on the
approach that you can't have to me, you can't build Galactus as like a
phase saga villain. You can do some build up in a couple of films
say oh, something's coming, but he can't be like fan. Also,
what King is gonna be? Like he's a dude that eats planets, you
know, Like I just feel like there's not that much there. He has
interesting things about him, but I think with his size and just some of
the things around him, I just don't think it you can do that.
So I'm find that being an F four, there's rumors that are gonna be
asking two other villains. I don't know who they are. I know Doom
is probably one of them, but I think that's where I am because Maddie's
question says, besides, how were Javier who you guys personally cast as Galactus?
For me, I almost didn't want that because with Pedro being read,
Javier to me was always a great contender for Doom. Now it's tough because
I feel like it's much like Mad's Michelson or Christoph Waltz. The second he
did no Counchy ruled and then we got so much as Javier as a bad
guy, right. We got him in Skyfall, we got him on Pirates,
we got him in I feel like there's another one I'm missing somewhere along
the way. But he kind of got type cast. So he's got a
big, powerful voice, and that's I think. Really all you need is
just a guy or gal whoever with a powerful voice, Like for me,
it could have been like Brian Krantz and Boom done you like Glactas. I
think is kind of like the thing where, of course you need someone.
I'm not saying to someone to come and sit down the booth and phone it
in, but I think that as long as you got someone that gives a
damn and it's getting paid well enough and could be like Bradley Cooper ish you
know. So that's why I'd say it's like, let's go Brian Korantz because
I don't see him doing anything E S MC or DCU. Uh So,
yeah, that would have been it. And Javier that makes sense, even
though like I said, I would have preferred him in the Doom world.
I think he would have been especially if we got to cast someone that is
kind of supposed to be I don't know, has some sort of relationship with
re Like I want a really good pairing with the read pairing. I think
I said that twice, but I want someone with Paige Row that I'm like,
oh yeah, the same way with kirbyan Pager where I'm excited to see
the romantic chemistry. I want someone with Page where it's like, oh,
I could have seen them as friends then falling out I could have seen that
with Javier and pair Pedro. I thought, oh, that could have been
a really fun dynamic. So we'll see. But yeah, I would have
gone on Grantston, and Javier is a good choice. So if it which
it sounds like it's gonna happen, sounds like he's the first choice, so
nice. Yeah, I'm I'm excited to see it because Galactas is a character
that I really don't know that well. He's obviously got the iconic look and
all, but I don't know much about the character. I don't even know,
like what his voice should sound like, so it's hard for me to
pick too much there. I imagine whoever they pick, though, there's gonna
be some like reverb on there, and it's gonna be a bit more grandiose
than just like the regular performance. I don't know, Yeah, kind of
honestly, just like the voice half voice half like filter over top. Yeah,
make some weird amalgam that could be the way to do it. But
I have two picks. One, they've done this before in the MCU,
where they take someone who's already played role and they play someone else. Give
me Mad's Michelson as Galactis. Yes, he was cascilious, but that was
like one hundred years ago and it's a different weird character. I just think
his voice would be pretty iconic. And you know with Galactus, it's like
it's all about the bottom half of the face. You gotta have a really
and whatnot. And Mad's Michaelson has got that in Spade, so he's one
of my picks. So do you think it's actually they will be the actor's
chin that they get will be the chin in the mask? Do you think?
So what else did they do? Would they put some like like I
guess it'd be Cgi. I think he'd be just all Cgi. That's what
I think he would be, kind of like Juggernaut. I think. I
think, no matter what, it has to be some seed. I just
afraid, of course quite literally work, you know, but I think they
would. I think they would want you to see the actor's face and then
to some extent, I think they would try their best. So you mentioned
it though, it's like, yeah, how do they how do they do
that? I'll hit you with this one because this is something that came up,
and this was about a month ago. I think I talked about on
a trust told you that it became a big debate because it became like,
oh, Poplar fan cast, everyone's wanted, but we've already done this,
let's not do it. The three rumors, and I actually don't think any
of these three are going to get it. But the three rumors for Doom
right now are Killian Murphy. I think just because he's hot off Oppenheimer.
It's like, Okay, let's talk to Killian. And he's even talked about
where he said, oh, I'd like to see the script, so we'll
see. Ryan Gosling is the other one that's been talked about. Again,
I think just the hot Barbie stuff, you know, and everything. The
other one that did come up last month was Matt's Michelson as a rumor,
and it's like a Cetier rumor. But and that was a um at another
point too, for like playing some other character, maybe because Silius was coming
back or something. I just I feel like he was some in small rumor
at some point. I can't or was it got off like Sony Marble,
he was rumored at one point It could have been that I could have been.
I could have seen them been like oh he could play talks and even
yeah something in that. Yeah, sure, but you could totally do it.
So that's so if I if he sits you down and says, would
you rather have Mads as Doom or Mads Galalactus? What you pick him?
Oh? Oh boy pedro on Mads, you know, I mean, I
God, damn, that's actually really hard. Yeah, I think I'd go
Doom. I mean because because there's more acting to be done there in my
opinion. But I just feel a lot of people could could pull off a
Galactus. But I don't think a lot of people could pull off well,
a lot of people could, but no one could nail it quite in a
level that I think he could. That one might be a bit too human
like though, and or it becomes like, okay, well we've seen this
guy namc before, so that I don't know that grind the gears too much.
Whereas Galactus is pretty out of this world, right. Guess it depends
how much he wears that mask, right, like when he's Doomed, because
Doom in the comics always wears it all the time. But I feel like,
if you're an actor, but it's almost similar to Galactus, where maybe
he's covered up all the time, but yeah, I'm doom as well,
not just because Cassilias. I remember we're gonna redo it. But when we
did our Fox X Men draft, like fan cast, I think all of
us were like, oh, we would have drafted Mads as Doom, but
he was always Cassilias like that he had. It feels very much like Rosaria
Dawson as Ahsoka or even fucking Krazinskia's read where I just feel like everyone's talked
about Mads for so many years, where maybe that's just inspiration or like,
well, you know, and they've done it now a few times, so
I don't think they'll go that far because, like you said, I feel
like there is a bit too similar. And as much as I love mad
As, I do get the argument of like, hey, there's a lot
of great actors out there, like you can definitely find someone for him,
but Galactus you could definitely, you could definitely do. But if you ask
me, it's still say I just just do just have him be Victor,
you know, m M. My other quick one is co genderbent version on
this and going Jessica Chess Team. Why'd you saying I just don't think of
her a distinct voice. I think she's pretty distinctvoice. I think she's very
she's very intimidating to me. And I've mentioned this before she's on the podcast,
but in my when I see her on screen, she just looks huge
to me, like she's just like she's like seven and a half feet tall.
She's like brawne. She just seems like you see g I R.
She could have been like the double for Shee Hulk or something like that.
She just seems massive to me for some reason, so that I could just
picture her in that role as Galactus. So I don't know. I feel
like maybe I haven't seen her too many movies, but I feel like she's
pretty stoic. She she can pretty be pretty intense intimidating. So, uh,
the three she's five three, I know. I swear this came up
before and we looked it up and I was like, wow, that is
shocking to me. It's always whenever you see any actor, it's like,
oh, they look so tall, and then in real life, yeah,
they're like five feet tall or something, but the screen they just look taller
and they look like adults, and I still feel like a child or something.
I don't know what it is, but Redemption after's Dark Phoenix. She
could pull it off because she's she's just a beast. Yeah that's my that's
my perspective. She played beast. Yeah, she's the villain. You reviewed
that movie, Yeah, we watched. I do not remember most of that
movie. Jessica Chastain is the villain in Dark Phoenix. She plays Remember they
were supposed to be the Scrawls, but then they got bought, so they're
like, they're not gonna be the Scrawls anymore. She's like white hair or
something, right, Yeah, yeah, right, like something up there.
Yeah, because she the scene she she gets to make Charles walk but he
can't walk. No, it was like it was a disturbing scene. She's
the context of that movie. It played off as funny. So I'm trying
to picture like the X Men animated Charles, like that voice trying to say,
put me down right now? Those hurts, Kirk take any good galactous
voice of pulls out. I'm not doing this. I I I saw a
secret Invasion amount. I hope he doesn't because that would be my number one.
Like I I love Javier, love his love him as a villain.
I watched No Country fold Men again, like not too long ago, over
the Christmas break and fuck, he's terrifying that. And he's just got that
voice, you know, like I don't love the latest Pirates movie, but
I still think he's got like a good villain voice. Yeah, and put
some reverb on there. I feel like I could take his face, you
know, like take what Dylan was saying, just the same chin as Galacti
is. Like his voice is almost so powerful though he almost could he could
reverb it himself. You know. He just has such a deep voice.
It's like, oh man, you know he pulls up two versions of himself
in Streamyard. He has like the sinister echo effect like that Kevin I did
it myself. So yeah, I love that. I hope it's stays true.
But for if he pulls out one, fuck this Kevin him out.
Yeah, it was as fuck you, Kevin, Faggy and Marvel. I'm
going going to James Gunn. I'm going to voices over there. I'm gonna
play Craven's uncle. He talks, and eight really want that talks. I
saw a mad script and it was pretty good, so it's gonna be mine.
It's a good hobber voice. Yeah, I gave made a bit to
Cuban and whatnot. But for for other voices, though, first one that
came to mind was Michael Shannon. I love Shannon. I feel like he's
got an alien voice to him, and he would need, you know,
a little bit of reverb, I think to make a truly feel I know
that's what I mean. Like he feels steel though. I think when he
when he when you guys have to turn it on. I think he can
turn on the that. It's been a while since I've watched he locks it
in. You know you're just thinking, mister Green, you know you think
of that as glass. Yeah, ship pop, thanks, he said Michael.
I thought you're gonna say, Michael Clarke Duncan. I had to give
you the Unfortunately it passed away. So you know, Michael Clark duncan is
come on, I'll you would know. Yeah, I'm tired boss. He
was Kingpin and dared all, Oh okay, yeah, that would be a
good voice. R Ip I had ving Raims. I hope that's what you
say. Was down the fifth Yeah, just great, powerful voice, been
top for any Marvel DC or so anything. Even if this movie mission impossible,
he's still doing those. He's always in those. He's like a supporting
role in the last movie. Yeah, but he's been a supporting character.
And like all where we got six? Seven? Now seven? Right,
I think seven? We're at seven, but it feels low. But yeah,
so I have ving Raiams. I don't know why I just said Clancy
Brown popping in my head. I don't think his voice would like work.
I'm just thinking of Venison and though he can't do that again, you know
that would be that's like good deep cut trivia there. Yeah. Yeah,
he was back in What If I when we taught and we just did it
recently. Yeah, okay, uh see, that's like my three mains.
And then when Dylan brought in the great idea for the Gender Bender, my
mind just goes to Lady Gladiol Kate Blanchet. I know she's already you know,
Hella in there, but like that's a powerful voice for me. That's
it for now. Okay. You know Anthony Hopkins if he wasn't out,
and he'd be a good voice. You know, he highlighted Real Moon,
right, Kirkling, he was great. It's Jimmy the Robot. We want
more of them. Oh my God, it's like five lines. I was
about to say, who was he? And that could Yeah, he's literally
all five lines a Guardians of the Aleaxy volume two, Right, he is
in there. Everybody's in the MC Charlie twenty seven. Yeah he's Yeah,
he's a Ravager that used to be Yonder's crew. And at the ends the
loans like just got back together to do one more Renderer and they're like,
yeah for Yonder and my Cyrus was there? What d Cyrus? Michelle Ow?
Yeah, my Sarrus is in a postcrit of Guardians too. She's a
voice you're lying earlier right now? Yeah, she's gonna that's my gender bet
pick for Galactus by the way, to Slass, I want to star Wars.
Droid in there just giving us the business. So all right, who
you got? I feel like it? But I think mother, you got
in here. No. I feel like you could see a good Morgan Freeman
voice playing Galactus. He's got the voice for that. Or Jack working these
days, that guy he just oh he's always working. Jack Nicholson, I
think could happen. Jack Nicholson, what did you just watch? A bucket
list? You want more? I'd love to see that voice. No,
Jack, he's retired, Yeah, because he can't remember lines. But I
guess he's just a voice. So, but give your voices, Glactus.
You don't even remember your lines. You just say some menacing ship. Jack,
take an eight ball of coke and say some medicine ship. All right,
Like I just think, I just think your voices are so distinct that
it would take me out. I'd hear the same way as I remember when
those rumors that Jim Carrey was gonna be MODOK, and I was like,
yes, can't happen, because I especially what we got with MODOC. Imagine
if that was Jim Carrey, I would have liked the movie more than he
was. The job. Well, there's always always be bad. Actually I
like better than the other two, to be honest, I was if I
was gonna jump onto the uh, the other gender there, I'd probably go
Kate Beck and sale. That would be a pretty Yeah, that'd interesting Galactus.
The last time we talked about the second movie, so Travis said,
I'm like, I don't think that's scene happened, but it did. Maybe
want to rewatch those movies. It was deep. All right, let's take
an ad break. We'll be right back with them other question and we're back.
So Joshua Wright asked a two part or one part we're not gonna do
because we as we announced just recently on a cast that we will be recasting
some of the X Men. We're gonna do a cast like a draft of
the ninety seven villains and heroes and whatnot. So where is it here?
He did ask, how soon do you think we'll start getting new X Men
immune movies with Deadpool at mc or at Dead Pull Wolverine now in the MCU,
Which characters would you want to see and who would you want to play
them? So we'll say who we see, but not the play and we're
gonna say that because we're, like I said, we're gonna do a cast
there, which you'll hear very soon. So any like what, I still
feel like it's not till after Secret Wars or whatever the finale here, till
we get more of them. I know they're here, and I know they've
hired they're hiring writers for X Men pitches. I'm just hoping that that just
means they want to have it really planned out and scoped out. But I
think that it's still a bit off and I think it's just X Men.
I know lots of people, and I think that's a line people have.
I know lots of people have seen the pitch again we're oh, do a
Cyclops movie in a Gene movie and rogue. It's I don't think that works
for me, I guess, and I don't think that works for the X
Men. To me, the Avengers, it's great seeing them together, but
they are separate characters. Not that the X Men can't be separate characters,
but to me, the bread and butter is when they're together. There are
specific characters you can spin off and do things. But for me, it's
like I want to see the band back together. It's like the Beatles.
It's like, okay, sure, Paul, you know, Paul and John
did some great sing Georgia too, But just like when they're the Beatles,
that's when they're the Mecca. So I feel like you almost reverse it where
you do X Men verse and then you spin off and you know for who
I want. It's like it's it's like an easy question because like I almost
take any X Men. It'd be harder for you to find the X Men
that I don't want, right, Like, maybe like like Banshee from the
animated series, you know how he got his ask kicked by Cable like something
like that, but like the core X Men, Like, if you tell
me there's a Beast movie coming, sure, I'll be excited. You tell
me there's a Gambuit movie, be a Rogue movie, sure, Like there's
most of my enjoy a Magneto movie. Whatever. So yeah, I mean
I agree on the timeline part of it, I don't. I don't see
anything prior to just X Men movie itself, and so therefore I think we're
pretty far down the road. I think at most. I mean I think
before that you would definitely see other characters pop up, either as smaller roles
or leading into their roles. That's kind of separate from what the questions asking
there, But I think we could definitely see some of that stuff. If
i'd pick one, my pick would be a Rogue movie. I would love
to see Rogue get the spotlight, get her own solo adventures, kills Yeah,
I mean, I think that could be an interesting angle. I mean,
you wouldn't actually kill her, but it could be if it is like
a separate universe and she gets brought into six one six I don't know,
but like there's a lot of interesting stuff where that could be really fun actually,
especially I mean, it would be a lot for her to kill Captain
Marvel, that would be crazy. But if it was a separate universe but
it was still pre Larsome like that would be intense. That would be really
cool and fun. And it could also not be malicious. It could just
be like her going through this thing and then however to deal with the repercussions
of that, that could be interesting. You know, there is elements where
like maybe the X Men exist at this point when this movie is happening,
so she could interact with the X Mansion or something, but it could still
be a focus on her. Of course, there's a Gambit angle. It
could be like a duo thing where Gamut's a big part of it. But
like with a mystique being a mother Nightcrawler over there as a sibling ish half
sibling, whatever it is going on there. I just like there's a good
amount of other characters you could bring in there with her still being the focus
and without it being I don't know, with it bringing in characters you've known,
recognize and love, but still being a distinctive thing, and yeah,
I just feel like there's enough you can do with her powers in terms of
the trauma that that causes on a backstory for an origin element of it.
I think there's a lot of things that could work there. So I'm not
going to cast her at this moment, of course, as I was just
said, but that's if I had to pick one character, I was going
through the main squad, and I think that was the one. To me,
that's the most of the one I would most like to see. Yeah,
I like, I like what you're saying there, especially about Rope,
because I feel like the Fox movies they have a lot more focus on that
character, but it's a much different version than what we see in like the
animated series. And I would love them to to really, since they're re
reimagining or rebirthing I guess, like the X Men, I think it would
be great if they go for a completely different direction than what was already done
in the past. And yeah, there's a lot a lot of stories to
tell with that a's for timeline. I mean, like we did get Beast
already right in. But I agree with you guys, Yeah, I agree
with you guys. I think it'll be after the big Avengers moments because those
are usually like the the gateway into a new era or a new new phase
for the mc U and eing and ting and ting geez, lord of the
Rings. In my mind entering the the Mutant saga, I feel like that
would have to be after the adventures because then there's just maybe too many moving
pieces. Who knows. Maybe they work it into the main crew at least
like one member, but I think it could be overwhelming, uh, just
trying to do everyone all at once, if it isn't just the Mutants movie,
and yeah, like for other characters or sorry, like a solo project
for some of the other characters on the Ants. Let's let's bring the Ants
in these friends. I know. It's like like he is like kind of
the main headhun Shoo of the X Men in many different spheres, especially in
the New X Men ninety seven, like Scott Summers Charles, I'm like,
we don't need another, no, after all those first class movies, Let's
let's take a break from Charles. Like Scott obviously has a lot of a
lot of stories to tell, which is the other characters that he does interact
with, like obviously he's the leader of the X Men for many many periods
of time, but also just like his family members that are X Men,
like what's his father's name, Cross Corsair, I don't, I don't like,
maybe do a different like just I don't know. I feel like there's
a lot of stories to tell just with that one character. So I think
I would actually like a solo project other than just a main Avengers thing,
because I do know that he would be, of course a part of Avengers
X Men thing. My gosh, I'm all over the place right now,
but yeah, I think that would be exciting because Scott, like even just
going through the anime series, like we've seen all of it up until this
point, I'm still a one hundred percent sold on this guy, Like I
I like him to an extent, but like I don't ever put him on
like my top x Men list by any means, and I'm to reason around
your hop list. That's a better question of just X Men, like,
like, what is your top Is it a top ten, top five?
Yeah, I guess it's the top my top ten X Men characters. I
don't think so for me, maybe after ninety seven seems like it could be
his time to shine. I've never thought of it, because he's much better
in the comics, so I think he would be for me taking in the
comics. Other media, No, but even then, the X Men have
like a lot of it's it's tough when you branch out from like are we
just talking of people that have been on the X Men team or just like
mute characters overall, because they need to get mune characters overall. That's when
it gets tough for me because there's tons of munes out there, like easier.
Yeah, X Men for sure, things in my top ten, wellhen
you bring im mune, so that's tough. And you got villains and the
Starjammers and Alpha Flight like there's they got a wide world over there. The
Nasty Boys a Nasty Boy or bone Breaker? You know? Whiz Kid?
Is that the sad guy and wiz Kid? No, they're different. Wasn't
wiz Kid the techno Canesis? I thought he turned into bout no answer?
Yeah? Anyways, well you Taylor, Well, I was thinking about the
heroes that we have, and I thought maybe it would be cool to do
a different approach, and I was thinking maybe a mister Sinister origin story would
be kind of neat because you could have the character. First of all,
I know, but you have the character kind of you don't know, he's
going to be a villain, is not going to mister sinister what do they
call the movie, Taylor, You can't call mister sinister. If you want
to hide that he's the you could go sinister origins or something like that.
If I was like, oh, you don't know about Tai Field, he
has some sinister origins right away, they're gonna think, oh, he's a
fucking bad guy, you know, but title right there, Oh yeah,
for sure, this is a Sony lead. Yeah. So I just think
you can have this origin story of this guy and he's trying to whip up
whatever ship that was he was doing the animated series, and then h you
could you could have it where the end of the movie ends and like kind
of openly where he spots Scott's Summers and Geen Gray and he's just like,
oh fuck, yeah, I smell that Nasty boys, that plasma something like
that. That you can get Charles's ancestor in there too, So I cannot
what was the detective Xavier or whatever he was? Inspector and Xavier. I'm
very scared and excited for when we do the part two of the X Men
Van cast and who you cast as mister Sinister Taylor. That's gonna be a
scary eight. We're gonna get there. March and April's like our x Men
months. We got lots of content that's scary. Who you're gonna pick for
that? So yeah, well, let's move on from that, and let's
talk about a little Let's talk about Sony Marvel quickly. It's been made enough
jokes about them, so we'll do that right now. Uh So again a
rapid fire Madam Webb lois box office opening for a Marvel film ever, the
first comic book film since Fan for Stick to not open at number one.
I am mean comic book, I guess with Marvel and DC. So there
you go. But even you know, we've had low ones, even the
marvels Aukaman, Shazamtu, Blue Beetle, all of open one. But Madam
One. What'd you say, Morbus, Yeah, Morbius, Yeah, but
Bob Marley kicked the three Madam Webs ass or I guess it's just one Madame
Web with all our friends. But so yeah, I made like made like
twenty six million, and it's like, I don't know. It's like I
think I have like an eighty percent drop from Thursday Thursday. No not,
It's doing exactly what we thought it would. I don't know what the predictions
are. I got to pull those out for I kind of have an idea
at the end of the year to get all our predictions together and so look
out for that. But so you got that in positive news. You have
Nick Cages, apparently in talks for the Spiderman Noir live action show. I
don't they have not clarified if he would be starting as Spiderman Noir, if
you just be a character who knows remember as of right now, even though
in Spider Verse he does play like Peter Parker and he has his uncle Benjamin,
the rumor is this would not be Peter Parker. Again, leaning towards
the theory of can they not use Peter Parker because why not? Like people
understand if it's a black and white show said in the fucking nineteen twenties,
I think they're gonna understand that it's not Paul like almost call him Paul Hall
and Paul Paul Hall, Tom Holland Tobaguire are like pretty easy. And then
the other thing was so Silk the show that at Amazon, they've been working
well for a little bit. Uh, they've decided they got rid of all
the writers, the showrunners saying, but they're doing a massive overhaul and the
idea is that they want to appeal more to the male demographic. Now tell
you one reason why this could be a concern is it could just be,
Hey, lots of males watch comm books, so more action, more fighting
stuff like that. Okay, but Silk has a very controversial story. We've
talked about this where her and Peter are bidden by the same spider and whenever
they get close to each other, they just they fuck. They just and
there's lots of panels of them doing stuff, lots of did peeing Taylor,
you know, stuff like that. But that's the thing where people are kind
of worried because that was looked at it as like an art that it's kind
of like that comic book cringe of like, uh, this is a couple
of boys with toys that had some tents like, oh, let's just have
Peter just like And people also didn't like it because it like an Asian character.
So it's like kind of the classic like sexualizing Asian kind of taking some
like anime aspects like why is it just the Asian Spider woman that's like has
to get it on with Peter. So that storyline in retrospect now has up
and looked good at it. So we don't know what they mean by they
want a male audience. But right away when people heard that and they know
where silk comes from, I don't think it would be Peter Parker, but
I think the is they would get like another Spider person and maybe do that.
I don't know. I think it is all concerning stuff. So mister
Mussel'll start with you. It seems like Sony other than maybe getting hey cool,
they might get in a cage. And again there's been still concert rumors
that Sony and five years still they're not on the same page for what they
want to do aspiermen for so it sounds like from TV even the animation we
talked about a couple months ago. Hell, those animators had a trouble.
So TV animation live action just sounds like it's a mess. And my last
point too that there was a report that came out this week about the Matama
Web box office. The executives got really concerned because they could see in live
time that tickets were being refunded on the Friday before, So that was getting
them worried, and apparently they've lost a lot of faith in these films.
There's a lot of glue. The quote was, there's a lot of gloom
in the Sony offices right now, because if you've looked at the films other
than Venom two, it's been going down. Like Venom two is a ninety,
Venom one was eighty, but Morbus was like forty three is twenty six.
So it's kind of other than the odd Venom bu a decline. So
lots there, But what do you think about just it seems like Sony in
general is just kind of having a mess, having a tough time right now.
Yeah, it's not too surprising, I guess. I mean, if
you go back to our predictions for Madam Webb, I was by far the
most optimistic about it. I don't know if I really had a good reason
for that. It was purely vibes, and clearly my vibes were just wrong,
you know, sometimes that happens. I was just I was off the
pulse on that one. I'm not on social media much. Maybe that's why
I just don't know what people are talking about other than what the discord is.
Not that our discord was very popular or it was very much intrigued for
madam, but it's not popular. Don't don't go in there during the discord.
But to your point, I don't know many people. I'll pull my
letter box. I don't know many people that have. I think April's seen
it. Yeah, there's not been a lot of discussion about it, that's
for sure. It's just April and Aaron Brain when our patron producers, so
like, I don't think anyone else in the discord scene it's like and give
it. I think he gave it a star. He gave a star.
Oh no, he half, just a half and April get fourth us.
But she did say it was like cause so bad. It's so good.
But it's not been seen by a lot of people. And I do know
actively a few people like Kyle messaged me and they said, like, I'm
not seeing this movie ever, but I'll listen to your guys' review. So
I feel like people are taking that approach with this movie. So yeah,
no, I mean, I feel like April watches so many movies that she's
like in the matrix or something where she's just like seen she sees movies by
like the code or something like underline. I don't know, maybe maybe there's
something going on there, but yeah, half a star there for the air,
and that's not the It's not very good, but I mean it's not
even though it's optimistic on the predictions, it's not shocking to me that the
movie is doing really poorly. I kind of I kind of thought that they
would get a good bump from Valentine's. Maybe that hurt it because it was
coming out and people were seeing and canceling their weekend plans to go see it
or something. I don't know if I would really make much of a difference.
But yeah, that's too too bad. But you know, you make
a bad movie and everyone the word of mouth is that it's bad and people
are not gonna go see it. So that's not not too shocking. And
then what else was there? I don't know why I'm not really excited about
that right now. I like that character in Spider Verse. Maybe I just
haven't rewatched that movie in a while. Maybe it's the TV show element of
it. Maybe it's some of the details you were sharing there. I'm sure
that's one of the things, like show me one trailer and maybe that would
change my opinion. But I don't know why just not calling out to me
for whatever reason. And then Silk, Yeah, I don't know. Just
if you just told me the news of like okay, Silk's you know,
restarting, and then you gave this other context, it's like, okay,
maybe if that's the route they're going down and they're trying to target it to
a different demograph, which is my demographic personally, yeah, it could work
for me. There is gonna be some weird like fetishization thing. Then it's
like I don't really want And again that was a material. Yeah again that
wasn't a report. But it's just that it's the idea that it's we're planning
focusing the show on a male audience. It's like, well, I felt
like, if you're already doing Spierman Noir, wouldn't you sell quant you know,
like, oh, let's hit the other audience, you know. But
yeah, I mean it's a character that I'm curious about strictly because she's a
cool card in Marvel Snap, and I want to see what's up with her
when I play the card. I want to know her story when I'm going
into my battles there. So that's really the only thing I got going for
that character. So hopefully it works out. But I don't know. It
just seems like if you're gonna cut anything to put money behind the things that
are working, I don't know if you're gonna put it behind that kind of
show. I think you're just gonna double down a venom and yeah, I
don't know whatever else bringing Tom Holland back, get more, give more money
Tom Holland to get him in your universe. I'm not sure. So yeah,
that does not sound like very good news in general, which I don't
know. It seems like they're setting up for it, so it makes sense
to me they're just hoping it beyond out, So then get all this good
press away from that, you know, because Beyond Spier Verse will come out,
then everyone will be But I I know, were you kirkling all this
spider You know, you're a Spider Guy, Spider Boy, Spider ant.
Where to start, Madam Webb not surprising. I chat with a lot of
coworkers that are into you know, they're probably listening to this. I actually
got word that apparently my boss's wife likes to listen to a lot of stuff.
So I'm like, wow, I gotta I gotta be careful of what
I say, because apparently I was just ripping on some fourty year old viewers
at the theater one time, and I guess that's the age demographic of some
of the listeners. So I apologize out there means doughnut plating bad way people
are eating donuts, That's what it is. What it is is that the
same person that said there's no bad which I it's almost a good bread bread
that bread and butter, that there's no bad fuck there's no bad villains in
a great movie. Is that person listening? Oh? Probably yeah, shouts
out to Brennan. Wait, we don't dump the name. Kirkly. A
couple of weeks ago asked us because was a heel on the post? Question
you because, yeah, because you said the thing with comic book movies is
that you can't have a good comic book movie with a bad villain. And
then I'm like, I don't think that's true. But I also couldn't really
just think of it. I think it is true because I think there's yeah,
there's ones like my example is like Logan where you have like Boyd Holebrook
and you have Richard your Grant and they're smaller villains and they're not like the
best, but they're not like bad. So that's the thing where it's I
feel like all great movies even if they don't have a great like comic movies,
if they don't have a great villain, I wouldn't consider that great.
Thead Man one. That depends on what you're considering. Well, it was
good, it was a good comic movie. Is he saying good or great?
Kirkland, what was the quote? He said? Great? Yeah?
Great? To me, that's like a a S tier. So that to
me, it's like, I think, usually give me thirty minutes. I
think I could come up with an answer. But yeah, it's weird.
I should be able to snap. We'll circle back. Maybe, like I
said, that would be a good bread and Butter where we pull up some
movies and just say, hey, what what is great and what are some
villains? So well dark Man, we'll circle back. We're not circling back
to dark Man the COVID era. Oh boy, little weird era. Back
to the topic at hand, though, Madam Webb, Yeah, I'm not
too surprised about that. Oh yeah, That's why I wrote that up.
I like that a lot of them actually like these Sony movies enough and like
they still just had no interest in seeing this, And it's like maybe when
it comes to like I almost said, po v v O D Madam Webb
from today, I wonder what it is with this movie, because I thought
this one could have a very chancing with Sidney Sweetey, people like to Got
Johnson, but I think it's just like I don't know, we saw it
with the Marvels last year, because people are more picky. I'm very I'm
not curious about Craven because I think it's just gonna eat shit. Venom three
is what I'm most curious about because those last two movies have been successful.
But like we said before, Aucaman won and Captain Marvel very successful, and
those eight shit like Ackman, I'm actually doing. Aucaman's the biggest DC movie
since Aucaman, if you don't count The Batman, which is just kind of
funny, like so it's like taking the crown from each other. So it
it ended up with like four fifty, so it didn't completely crashing ball.
It did better than the Marvels, but the same thing as Venom. But
people like Tom Hardy so but I really don't know. I don't know what
people pick anymore. To be honest, I feel like vandom is just such
a like side thing though, like it's something almost bigger than Sony. Like
a lot of people that are like, yeah, I know, I don't
really care about the Sony projects, but Venom is my guy, so like
I'll play to you there for Vendom three. I hear a lot of that.
What about the Iron Man movies like Whiplash, justin Hammer, those are
not the best villains, but great great movies, right, No, degree,
I already pitched they're not great movies. I rejected iron Man two,
iron Man one? Is that a great villain? Open Ice stays a good
villain? But Jeff Bridges, Yeah, personal, okay, I'll keep looking.
I'll keep that Sidney momohere else was I going, Oh, yeah,
Sidney Moon, Now this is a character not because of the weird origin stuff
between her and Peter And he's like, oh no, I don't know.
I mean you're dirty travels. Why would you read such smut? No,
I actually think Silk is an interesting character. I was I was reading a
bit of this amazing Spider Man. I don't know which one it is,
but just crossover with her character. Interesting stuff there. She also has like
a couple couple of collaborations with some of the other Spider women. Like an
interesting character. I read this comment from Peter's point of view, My god,
it was crazy. Just digging my graving further. I feel like I'm
a visual person as well, and she is probably probably one of the coolest
designs for an outfit like comic book character. Like, look at that look.
I feel like, just like the bandana mask too, is something very
different. It looks like me face, looks like your face. I drew
myself actually for this cast. I just feel like not having like a full
on mass like most Spider people have. Like it's just really interesting look very
Ninja like, and this the color patterns are sweet. And we know they
got plans for her. We've talked about this carcle different casts in context,
like they are planning to have Sidney Moon be a bigger character. So I
don't think the show's gonna die. But I was even gonna say, if
you've I don't know how fur the far you are in Spider Man two,
but her name definitely comes up. I feel like I did a great job
of not dropping these I don't know, probably got the Spider Man two,
but she's sucking in there. He's been up for so long. Yeah,
it's but she's definitely alluded to, and it's like, Okay, clearly,
I think Sony has the idea of, like, we want to do things
with this character. So she's actually in the MCU already. She's gonna be
in Dimple three Catalon with Tom Hollands Peter Parker, which is kind of funny.
Well is she the name? Do they just named Sidney Moon? I
remember, yeah, that's I remember that was around that time. Right now
everyone's like, oh man, they're gonna do it. They're gonna fuck First
Radar. But yeah, back to the topic of the HND, I keep
doing these little sidetracks. I This news worries me. I feel like,
especially coming off of Madam Webb, so interested in like getting Julia Carpenter on
live action, so pumped to have like Sidney Sweeney pairing up with it.
And like that's what I get, and now going forward, I don't think
I think it's gonna be a hot minute if even then I see another version
of Julia Carpeter on live action after that, I really don't want that to
be the same route. With Silk, I think she's a little bit different
because she's she's a character that's growing just kind of traction, like she's becoming
a lot more popular obviously, you know, Travis and I were talking in
a secret meeting that where she's popping up in the future just regarding what I
said previously and just become like she just seems like a newer character, kind
of like how Miles kind of went that route. Yeah, like she is
a minority to being an Asian character. So I feel like that just has
a little bit faith that like we will be able to see a good story
being told for and not just limited to one series. I think. I
don't know. I just think like the team that was initially doing it was
a little bit worrisome just the fact that, like you know, the Sony
stuff isn't great and like they do they do have a history of being great,
like the Spider Verse. I know that is something because of Yeah,
because like you also got Phil Lord Miller, which, like, again there's
some stuff around them. Maybe they overwork some anime or stuff which is not
great, but like, creatively, those guys have proven to be a great
track record, and I'm hoping that there's some stuff that maybe they could end
up doing some live action world. But like the live action stuff, even
the venom stuff, it's like it's always we're I think the most of us,
we say it's fine or kind of fun, but there's like what they've
been without the MCU. And what's the last great movie they had two thousand
and four was Tota Macguild. Oh my god, this depends how you feel
it's amazing. I don't think back to the Great conversation, I don't think
any amazing movies are great. I like the first one, but I wouldn't
consider that great. Yeah, i'd agree, So I think I already had
like somewhat concerns with that. But then like what you just said, like
that's just such a strange statement. I'm so used to it being like,
yeah, we're gonna try and cater more to like the female audiences, like
like comic book movies. I feel like across. I might be entirely wrong
with this, but I just think in the past, especially in the past,
they've been a lot more just focus for male audiences, so it's like,
why do you have to bring in more of that attention? And then
of course you just you go with the memes about the love makings. It's
just bizarre, especially when you paired up with that that line. I think
it's just a straight up weird line overall. So yeah, it's it's definitely
not good news, but I'm excited to see more of Sydney Moon and Silk.
I am in some context, but maybe not, maybe not here.
I don't know. I don't have any faith in anything they do now,
Like with Nick Cage, I like the idea of Spiderman Noir, but I
don't like the idea of Nick Cage because I don't want. I think there's
something really cool, dramatic and stylized you can do there. But I think
if you just get him in an a Spierman Noir sense, I just know
I think that's gonna be a more comedic side or more tongue in cheek,
which I'm fine that in Spider verse, but I don't need to hear,
but I get if you're trying to sell a show on Amazon. Hey,
Spider Man, is Nick Cage? Okay? That could be fun saying that
the action scenes like is he gonna be I guess he just got a stunt
double, but it's like he's gonna be flipping around. But now I guess
he's in a mass so you're you're okay, So that's fine. But yeah,
Silk I have. It sucks that I was really excited by the Amazon
announcements because Amazon's been putting out some really good stuff, so it's like,
oh, this could actually be a corner of the Sony world. That's good.
And I have to hold my breath because, yeah, I'm hoping that
the Silk stuff is just they want more action oriented et cetera. But I
don't know. I can't trust the record, Madam Webb. That's that's a
no surprise for me. I'm just more curious again, not just sense of
ven them three, just also we don't have any new movies annown, so
I'm really wondering if they're not gonna announce anything till after this year. And
I'm really I just want to see what they do because I feel like before,
they're always like, hey, they got Venom, and then there's gonna
venom too, and then more like we always knew there was something coming.
And obviously el Moretto has supposed to be in production, but like, I
don't think that's ever happening. So I just that's what I'm waiting for to
see. If we go like a year and they haven't announced anything that's not
MCU spider Man, I might be like, oh, they might have learned
their lesson and maybe they're gonna slow down. I'm not saying stop the sony
mus I guess I would say stop, but clearly they're not gonna write.
They have to do one every five years so they can keep the rights.
So just all I'm asking for is don't get the people that directed fifty Shades
or don't get the people that wrote Gods of Egypt, you know. And
I don't muddel so much. So that's why I hope have some faith in
But uh, mister Field, I mean I think Nick he's coming back into
the folds here would be wonderful. I'd love to see him. I mean,
if you were to play Spider Noir, I'm all for that. I
think I just I love that character in Spider Verse so very much, so
to kind of be reimmersed with that character and have the portray again, it
would be great if that is what he would be portraying. Madam Webb disastrous
box office, Yeah, I was. My plan was to go and see
it a few weekends ago, but it didn't end up panning out, And
now I guess I'm just gonna wait and see it at home whenever it drops.
So yeah, yeah, definitely I'm a POV at home. So like
it's funny because people have been meaning like Twitter is full of like three minute
clips, like a probably piece to go to the whole movie by now,
because I've just been watching these clips and yeah, there's there's some very questionable
pieces of dialogue in that film, as I'm sure you guys know. As
for Silk, this Cindy Moon character, I let's get her her own movie,
let's get her in here. I want to see this character. I
want to see more of her, what she's doing. I think we could
have some fun Like I'm there, uh back cells Asian, but you can
tell me if I'm wrong. I don't know. I don't think she is,
but I do think that's what they should do, Taylor, is focus
on a male audience. I mean, see right out Underworld too nice.
The nice thing about this is, you know you can create a cinematic universe
where there's something for everyone. You got Madame Went for the ladies, and
you can have a Cindy Moon movie for the men. Like this is awful.
Not to cut you off til tired, Taylor is gonna get himself canceled.
I also think there's a chance we just never see Silk. So that's
unfortunately. Is it Sydney or Cindy Cindy Moon? Like yeah, yeah,
all right, ta know that break, We'll be right back. All right.
Now, let's jump over to the Warner Brothers DDE. So this came
out from an article this week, and it's funny because this was a few
things we're talking about with Mickey seventeen. So there's like a bunch of stuff
here. But the main point of this argument or this article was showing a
bunch of their financials and things they've been up too recently, and the theory
was are they doing this to create a nice, pretty package? And some
of the stuff I don't know why, like Yoger's two budget that doesn't necessarily
have pertaining to it, but the working theory that the reason Hollywood Report was
putting in these articles because other insights in the business think this might be happening
where they just signed a first look deal with Marco Margaret Margot, Robbie's company
which obviously Barbie Bike hit but still with her. We talked about a couple
of weeks ago where Cruise now doesn't have like a first look because he's still
working with Paramount, but he has like, uh, he's gonna do movies
with Warner Brothers, which we'll talk about in a second, and there's other
things right they're trying to get that also came to this report that they're trying
to get Tarantino's last movie, and that makes sense with how we've heard these
Cruise rumors right where we heard he might be in here and now he's working
with Warmer Brothers. So they're doing all this and supposely there's lots of people
that think that either they're doing this because they're either gonna sell or there's gonna
be a merger, and the biggest one is Comcast NBC Universal is kind of
like pegged, is like the person that they've been talking with because there's a
certain thing that when you buy a company, you can't sell for a certain
amount of time. Well, come April, that time is up and they
can now sell or merge if they want to. So that's why all these
moves people have been theorizing that they're not trying to do to make war and
where they're stronger. They're doing it in a way to make the package look
prettier, to make more appealing. And then also coming out in this report
was Joker has gone from the first movie being a sixty million budget to now
two hundred million dollar budget. A lot of that is like Philps and Walking
are both getting paid twenty million, Gaga's getting paid twelve. They have the
musical sets, but still massive increase. Mickey seventeen is coming out January thirty
first next year. And we were this way joined the discord because we were
going back and forth of like does that mean they don't have faith or does
that mean, oh, they're gonna do like a limited awards released in December,
which does the movies do and then release wider later on the reason from
this report that that's getting that really stateous because Warrener Brothers is apparently disappointed with
it. And I'm not taking that as that means a bad movie, but
that just means that they're probably not gonna give it a campaign. They're probably
not gonna market that much. They might just put it. We've talked about
this before. January movies are the ones that go out to die, so
it sounds like they don't really have much faith in that movie. And then
the last point of this is to double on the Tom Cruise thing. He
joined because the purport was that he wants to start working with tours again and
do that type of stuff. He's gonna be working with Alejandro in Urito.
He did Birdman, he did Revenant, so he's doing a film with him
at Warner Brothers. So if you already see now, I know there's another
mission possible. But he's working with Tarantino, rumor to be he's working with
in Uri too. It does seem like we're getting a path of him maybe
not doing these action stuff and trying to make a sort of a pivot.
So and I guess the only thing I'll say before I hand it off is
this is why I'm very excited, because it's very cool. J gun is
posting the cast for Superman and we're getting the logo and all this stuff.
But this is why I've said on vodka and even Tress told you where I'm
in a sense now where I need to take this one film of time.
I want to get to legacy. Because the guy that's like the guy that
hired you know, zazof I got hired James Gunn saying yeah, go do
this stuff literally in a year, could not be that guy anymore. So
that's the same thing like maybe they get this new person, universal gets DCU
and they like, oh, we love James Gunn's plan, let's do this,
or they look in this and go, oh, this is dumb.
Why do you have two Batman movies? Why didn't you just do this?
And stuff. So that's the context in the geek world too, that all
this kind of all the DC has this you know, five year plan that
could be kind of refuffled again. So taire Field, what do you think
about uh, all that? Oh, I mean that's a lot of information.
Mickey seventeen though I do have it in the notes, so if you
click, if you click on that, it's all there. H Mickey seventeen
being shoved over to the like the death zone. M hm. That's that's
unfortunate because I was curious about this movie. But that zone going to be
bad. No, that's where movie is going to die though, Travis says
they do. But that that just means, like what we're telling the discord
word, that just means Warner release window of Poor Things to me, which
you ask me top notch. No, but Poor Things came out limited in
December. That's that's the thing. That's why, because to get those No,
no, no, we don't know that. But as of right now
it's not. It's just we don't know it's not. But as of right
now, it's just a full on January thirty. First, you're coming out
the same weekend as like Night Swim, you know, like that sort of
ship Yeah, dead movie. Ah what Nights will make Warner Brothers to be
sold again, that's just uh yeah, that'd be like three times. And
I think it's like five or six years because it was Warner bus An eight
and t bought them, then zazz Off and Discovery bought them, and and
this would be them being bought by someone else in the life span of the
podcast. Yes, absolutely, the entire podcast. They've been bought three times.
If this happens, yeah, that's just that's absolutely bonkers. Just to
think this big, huge, like conglomerate company just being like passed around and
just used and abused and then passed around again, like just brutal. So
Night Swim made a nice forty nine million at the box office, crushed Madam
Webb like crazy. I won't say that yet, but that's who would who
would pick up Warner Brothers. I don't know, like it would be.
It would be interesting to see if a single man does it or like,
you know, I gave you, I know, I give you a lot
of information. The pegged person is universal, right now? Oh? Universal?
Yeah? Right? Okay, yeah, I think you know. I
mean that portfolio we got et, Jaws, Jurassic Park, are those all
universal? Yeah, you're just throwing those all out, and I don't think
you know that's for sure. The granches universal, I'm pretty sure as well.
Okay, I'm pretty sure that they're universal. You can get Drastic World
with DC characters now, Drastic World yeah yeah, yeah, Fast and Furious
with Batman. Yeah, you never know. Transformers. I don't know if
those are Universe. Yeah, it was listed at this point. Uh,
then we got yeah, Joker Too is a two hundred million budget. And
I was just joking about the one sixty go into Lady Gaga because it was
forty million for Joker one. But obviously this is going to be I'm assuming
a much more of a spectacle with the extra millions that in there, because
it is a goal, So we're going to be getting a little bit more
of a I mean, it's gonna be like more practical effects. Are they
going to do something more like a Poor Things vibe? I feel like the
Poor Things world and aesthetic would actually work pretty good for this, this folly
idea Joker film. I think, oh, for sure, get some scenes.
I think people are just very I get why it's budget, I get
why it's blown up. It won a bunch of Oscars, became a billion
dollar movie. You got them back for a sequel, and they said,
oh, it's just a one off. But it is very interesting that it's
still like ten to fifteen dollars more expensive than Dune. Like that's that's crazy
when you look at the Dune and trade of fifteen dollars ten to fifteen million
Okay, yeah pretty much tho when we're talking those number thirty five million budget
so crazy. Yeah, so this is purely like like, this is a
lot of the back end, a lot of like, well we gotta get
walking back for the So it's like who knows how this does. But it's
not like the first one where it's like, oh, small budget, but
even if it does just a small amount, you made a profit. Now
you're getting into like the bit and you know the marketing campaigns can be huge
too, So now you're getting into like it's like an Avendors movie. Now
I hate it. I hate it. Oh, I hate it. I
shouldn't care. It's not my money. I just I hate it. I
don't know something it's bad vibe. Something stinks, Yeah, bad vibes.
I had good vibes on mate webs So what do I know? But something
about it it's just ain't right. Mm hmm. You can go down,
You can go Kirk. Did you address all your points that you were gonna
it was the three? The three Tom Cruise? No Tom Cruise too.
What do you think about him maybe stopping doing some uh some action stuff?
Oh you know, I mean the action is a name as far as I'm
concerned, he's just landing these action roles like no tomorrow, so let's put
them in another action role. Now, this was a Tarantino project, no
casulating that wouldn't be a huge deal that he just kept going, And I'm
like, oh no, making uh pulp fiction to Taylor, We're moving coming
back Tom Cruise, dealing a Kirkland save us? Where was I gonna go?
What we just talked before? Then? You know, oh the Joker
thing? Yeah, Like for me, the budget increase, it does make
sense just because like it's so much more valuable the Joker being with with Joaquin
as well as like the director, like and we got Lady Gauga now and
it's just those three. It's the budget of the first movie just to get
them, you know. So for that reason, it does make sense.
And I just think so many more people are like, yeah, the Joker
is a major character, but just like what this is is so much different,
so much more different than that. And people that have just been affected
by that first movie, Like I know a lot of people that have seen
that. They're like, that movie just made me feel awful, and it's
like, man, like that's that's like the telling of a good story because
the story is awful and like, if it makes you feel that way,
like it, it leaves a powerful impression, and I think a lot of
people just kind of have that, so knowing that the second one obviously including
Lady Gaga and more of a musical, but it's still it's still the Joker,
Like, it still is going to be a fucked up movie, I
guarantee, just interesting, and so I think the budget makes sense for that.
For my notes here Mickey seventeen, I don't know, like I'm I
don't think like, yeah, you can bring up examples of movies that have
gone to die in that slot, but that doesn't really affect me too much.
I don't know, really superstitious individual. Maybe a little stitious, but
not that much. So I don't think too much about that. Sucks as
being delayed because I was really interested in just the whole pairing, especially having
Pattinson in there with them, because it's the same lad that did Parasite,
right whatever, Yeah, Patterson, Tony Collette, Mark Ruffalo, and I
think there's someone else really good in there too, some great names right there,
so exciting Warner Brothers stuff. I don't really I don't know. I
don't. I feel like I'm just not never qualified enough to like speak on
the whole business thing. It is strange just seeing a major company like that
just swapping hands, and especially even just knowing that, like the runners right
now are possibly just just i don't know, beautifying the overall property to make
it look more appealing. Like to me, that's just such a strange way
to run a business. I know, business is all about just making those
margins and like last year or sorry, this year has to be so much
better than last year for profits and stuff. It's just it's a weird world
to live in, I guess, especially when it's like an entertainment thing.
It's just it's just weird to me. I don't know, I don't understand
it. I'm not gonna try and understand it, So I don't really have
much to speak up on that one. What was the other one? I
think that's everything actually Tom Cruise, Oh, Tom Cruise, Yeah, with
Tarantino going back to his action roots. I love Tom Cruise in action roles,
like it's I know what to expect when I see these action movies with
Tom Cruise. So if that's just taking a back burner to try something different.
Part of me is definitely like it's a bit of a bummer, But
who knows, Maybe it's gonna be like a different of Tom Cruise's career.
I know he's done more serious roles in the past. You know, I
just want to shut It's definitely not an action movie. That's how he started.
He was not an action guy, and that was the biggest knock because
the guy I'm not gonna be that guy, but because like he is shorter,
that was the biggest knock, Like, oh, how's this guy gonna
be an action guy? Right? He doesn't have the body of the physique
and stuff. So that was his career. And then he became top gun.
Uh well not really top I don't get, but he came Mission Impossible
all those type of things, you know for sure, And like I I
don't think it's a like if he pivots to a more dramatic role situation and
like it it just it's amazing like that that that would be cool to just
see that side of his career expand. But at the same time, I'd
be a little bit disappointed if I'm missing out on these action roles. Doesn't
necessarily say he's he's never gonna do him again. But yeah, it's I'm
I'm interested, but I would definitely be a little bit remiss. He think
he's about to be six. True, he can't be jumping off buildings and
planes forever, you know, flying in the air strapped to airplanes. Yeah,
like he he also does action in these action movies. So yeah,
you're right, Yeah, leave it there. Okay, let's see Mickey.
It's a tricky one, right, It's like tricky Mickey, Tricky Mickey.
Parasite one of the best movies of all time, one of my favorite movies
of all time. And it's like, I don't know, if you do
a movie like that, the pressure must be so fucking high to follow it
up with something else, and especially switching over to like huge famous Hollywood actors,
Like there's a lot of weight on his shoulder to get this movie right,
and so I don't know, there could be some validity to it not
being meeting their expectations. Oh yeah, sure that could. I mean for
me, I guess it's like I would be shocked if this movie is better
than Parasite for me. But obviously it's like an incredibly high bar. So
I'm not I don't need that. I'm not gonna be disappointed if it's half
as good as Paris, Like that's just how good that movie is. Go
back to our retro check out our our thoughts on that. So I'm I'm
bummed that it got moved, even not even for the draft part, and
I had it on my list. Yeah whatever, I'm gonna lose somebody.
You didn't. You didn't remember. I gave you the heads up that there
was no I don't think and we have this conversation in the discord that you
said he still picked it. I warned him, No, I thought I
was saying good thing. I warned you. Maybe maybe I'm wrong. Oh
shit, I'll bring that up. Hmm. Go check it out. I
thought I still picked it, but I could. Oh you did at number
four. Yeah, no, I was wrong about that. Okay, hard
enough drives. It's all your face, your boasts. I tried, and
he stayed. Yeah. I'm I'm more bummed about the delay, just because
it's a delay and now it's gonna take even longer for his next movie and
all this stuff. So that's where I'm more in for sure, because that
was like earlier in the year originally, and now it's now it's getting there's
supposed to be summer, it was supposed to be like three months from now,
and then now it's and then there was rumors, Oh, they're doing
it for the festival season, and then it's just now January. It's like
cool, Yeah, so we'll see what's what's gonna happen there and hopefully,
uh, hopefully it's good. Yeah. And then I think the only one
that I would want to touch on is the the WB the merger, that
kind of idea them selling again. It's it's not shocking to me just seeing
how everything's going. Zaslov is a complete jackass, so it's not surprising me
to just see how this goes. And honestly, like maybe his revisionist history,
but I feel like I just always had some fear about this new era
of DC ever since the beginning, just because it felt like it was built
on such a weak foundation, not because of James Gunn and I always forget
the other guy. I don't forget about it, Peter Saffron. Yeah,
I always forget about Saffron's name. Sorry, but it you know, it's
not that they're we foundation, but just it's the fucking those execs that are
the ones who are ultimately have to say over everything over the top, and
they're just really stupid. So kind like, you'll probably still get some of
these movies, but the rest of it is just in limbo. And for
me it doesn't feel like a huge loss because I just never really felt too
solid about all of it happening anyway, just because of Zaslov. Even if
those first two movies, even if they're good and they just didn't do superwl
the box office, that just seems like, Okay, we're gonna cut at
least half these projects. Yeah, cut all the TV shows, just do
maybe the James Gunn movies or something. So I don't know, I always
felt in limbo. And hopefully for the DC fans that you get a lot
of that slate that was announced. I hope for your sake you do.
But it just it just seems it just seems bad. Even even if this
merger doesn't happen, it's still like you should be worried that you're not gonna
or you should at least consider the fact that you're that stuff. While it
was mentioned and was put on a slate, does not mean that it's actually
gonna happen. That's I wonder. I'm not saying that we've heard reports like
oh gun is Russian production, not that I think it's all been working.
Like he that was like a year ago they announced that tons of time to
work on the film. But I feel like there must been something back of
his mind, like I gotta get to Superman Legacy because like they're going production
next week, so they're good, They're gonna film, that movie's gonna come
out. That's gold. But like I feel like I wonder if at any
point if that's why his movie was first too, of like I gotta make
sure I make this because I might not get a chance to. And you
know that's and that's smart because I do think it's, you know, a
good swing of the bat. I think that it has a chance to be
successful. And the good thing is hopefully it comes out year next year does
well. So then if a new person does get it, they go,
oh, let's not change just because this is the guy the plan. He
directed the movie and it did really well. You know, it's a question
of if it's like underwhelming or it's not like a huge like if it's a
hip but not a huge hit. That's when you worry, like, uh,
does someone come and be like, well, you know, like that's
what happened last time with BBS, Like it didn't hit a billion and then
after that it was just a down thing of like new exact, new exec
right. So yeah, I mean like the back Girl situation too, like
not too slight. The creators of that movie, and maybe that movie was
great. We will never really know, but imagine if a I don't know,
if James Gunn movie gets backgirled in that way, they can't anymore.
They can't. It was it was a movie. No, when there's a
Bioto, it's like that where there's a certain amount of time where there's projects
that you inherited that if you think our bad will hurt your business, you
can write off. So now, technically, I guess if someone were to
buy Universal could do that, so technically, but if it was a merger,
then no, If if they just merge with the company, James Gunn
is good and I think that it's Superman, So I think and like I
think, I I'm not I'm not saying this because I'm sure in thirty years
from now, when we're dead. There'll be another Superman. But I feel
like this is the real tester to find it, Like it's dead in thirty
years. Thirty years Jesus Christ, the way the planet is going. Honestly,
I mean, we might be lucky to get ten exactly so terror by
then. But my whole thing is like, it's much like F four.
I feel like legacy is gonna be the true test, like k does the
audience anymore care about Superman? Right? And then if it's a hit,
I think, oh, then you get a bunch more Superman films in the
next decades. But if it's another night, I feel like, Okay,
maybe people are just outgrowing Superman and it's time to move on, you know,
hopefully, but hopefully it's not just like, oh that was successful,
that's green light a bunch more, but then quadruple the budget like Joker,
like that just seems really unsustainable. They go down that road. Yeah,
WB doesn't have that kind of money to throw around. That's where the Joker
thing also gets really wild to me, where we could they could make four
Jokers for that for that they could have yeah, quite that simple, but
with different actors, just make a different just Get Anthology. Yeah with the
different get the Key Stand film there. Yeah, yeah, I touched upon
that already. The Tom Cruise stuff. I'm just excited because we talk about
in Top Gun, where for me, I'm the reverse. I got enough
action Tom Cruise. I want the actor back and a Top Gun. You
have to see him slightly do that again. I want him to work with
Tarantino and fucking and you read too, and like, uh, Paul Thomas
Anderson like all these names that were rumored, Like I really want him to
pop up in some good I want him do a fucking eight twenty four movie
like Tom Cruise Weird Cat, but actor wise can be one of the best.
And I'm telling you this as a Travis told you the second he's in
a movie and he gets Oscar, he gets nominated for an Oscar. I
say this, Mike, He's fucking winning that because they want to thank him
so hard. They want to give him Oscar, Top Gun, save the
box Office during COVID all this shit, like they like, they want to
praise this guy. So I'm telling you he will when Oscar he wants to.
And I think it is just interesting. He can't just be he can't
be Ethan Hunt forever, you know, like it's like there is a time
and also almost like the Superman thing, that last Mission Possible movie didn't do
that well, and maybe he's reading the tea leaves of like, well,
maybe people aren't they don't want another mission, you know, like maybe the
missions are over. So that's why I feel like, do the one they're
filming right now leave it often like a good way that hey, if it's
a Maya Hitch shirt, you can come back, or if it's not,
We've told our story. And I think that's maybe him reading the tea leaves
of maybe people aren't into the actions, which is weird because the two year
before Top Come was the biggest movie of the year, right so I think
that's just like the box office is unpredictable right now. So and yeah,
joker, yeah, I already spoke about that. So all right, last
ad break and then we'll get to some trailers, some other news, taylorfin
I can talk about July twenty fifth, and then we'll be right back and
we're back. So let's start with that news right there before we get to
the trailers, and I'll just combine them for you. Uh, we got
Gareth Edwards, director of Row One, the Creator and that Godzilla. It
just was called Godzell, right, they didn't have a Godzell, just Godzill.
Okay. Uh. He is now directing Jurassic World whatever. We don't
really have a title for this, but Durstic something and that still supposedly has
the date. And then also The Ballerina has been delayed out of this year.
Speaking of people losing movies, KIRKLM. Patser, you've also lost the
movie this week in The Ballerina. Supposedly they are David uh or sat Heelski
is gonna go in and shoot some additional scenes. To me, what reads
is the action is not good enough in my opinion, if you're getting the
John Wick guy to come in and shoot some stuff. I don't know.
I'm just reading into that of saying you have a different director and the director
of the Jon movies is coming in being like, oh, I'm just gonna
shoot some stuff here, so the camera yeah, very much. What happened
with Garrett Edwards and Roguante where someone just came to like, ah, like,
yeah, we're just gonna shoot some stuff and you can just hang out.
But what do you think about those two. Also, sorry, I'm
not sure if anyone's a Crow fan, but the Crow has taken the Ballerina
slot that's starting Bill Scarsgard, and that's a reboot of a prop popular cult
film. So well, with Ballerina shifting, I feel like the competition is
getting much more heated down our draft. But that's a shame that they're kind
of like nudging that over doing some more circle back back you, why do
you feel that we're only a month in and we barely have any movies?
Why do you think it's heated up because there's two day delays for Donan Kirkland.
I mean, that's that's money in the bank right there that they're not
going to be getting. That's that can That could be the difference that cooling
down for me. Yeah, I think it's it's not he you doing next
week, Kirkland, You gotta do next week? Yeah, I I was
looking forward to Ballerina. Well, I haven't seen the show that they did,
the John Wick series yet. Eventually I'll get around to it because I'm
I'm curious. But uh, yeah, the them doing reshoots for the Ballerina,
that's uh, I mean, you gotta do what you gotta do to
make a good movie. So now it's next summer, I think at sometimes
so mm hmmm mm hmm, that's quite a ways away, at least a
year. Then over a year. Now if it's next summer, woh,
calendar. Man, what do you think about Tarantino doing Drafts movie? It's
just kind of I want to see if I would get him. You just
man, well, with Gareth Edwards popping and I was not expecting that at
all. That just kind of especially after the like previous director Bullet Train and
Deadpool two, I just felt like they're very different directors. Of course,
if they're just looking for someone to do point and shoot work, then I
guess it doesn't matter who they get. But still what they've done is very
different portfolios when you compare their films. So I feel like with Garret Edwards,
didn't they run into this kind of an issue with Rogue one? Or
was that the previous director? No, Garrett, Well, you mean no,
no, no, that was a different issue. That's a whole different
issue. Gre Edwards made Rogue one and they're like, yeah, let's not
we don't want to show this movie. So I got Tony Gilroy he came
in reshot a bunch of stuff, and Edwards is still the credit director.
But a lot of stuff got changed in that movie that wasn't Edwards, so
that's why people give them a lot of credit, which I understand. But
also there's a lot of stuff so that that's it's the same situation. Do
you well, couldn't that still ply in summer here where like he wants to
do certain things with this Drassic World movie and universes be like, no,
no, no, just fucking put your brakes on. I don't think.
I think if he went through that already, he might know the system better
and it might just be, hey, I want to paycheck, because I
don't think the creator did that well. I liked the I liked the creator
a lot more than other people because I didn't get to see in theaters,
and I remember everyone kind of I just felt like everyone in our community was
a bit disappointed with it with the hype, but I remember seeing it.
I gave like a four out of five on letter box. But yeah,
budget eighty million bocks off one hundred and four, so it didn't really do
too much there, Like it definitely lost him some money, so maybe it's
just that I'm just like, he does a bigger film to fund whatever,
because that film is shot on like a five thousand dollars camera, Like it's
gorgeous. So that's what it's like. If you're looking for a pointer shooter
guy, if those rumors are true, it's like it's a guy that does
at least like Rogue One looks great, you know, like visually looks great,
Godzilla One. Thing that's with Rogue one, Godzilla and the Creator.
He has a great sense of scale. He's great making things that seem very
big and otherworldly. So I think if you're looking for visual wise, he's
like he's a great go to. So it's that's why I like though at
least it's not like a go to and it's like we hear that with Marvel
and then it's like, oh, here's some guy that directed two episodes of
a show. You're like, great for him. I'm happy he's getting a
paycheck, but it's like, we don't have any sense of his style.
They might not work with a budget. This guy, at least is he's
done a fucking Star Wars movie, so I don't think he's gonna be like,
what's the Green Ball do and what does this happen? Like he has
some cred going on, So where's time? I think I think you said
at the scale, That's what I'm definitely most excited for. It's just crazy
to think if we got someone that's worked on a Godzilla film and that's also
gonna be working on a Jurassic World film. That's just it gets me super
super juiced. I am just excited to see, uh, what's that with
Tarantino? He's writing, Yeah, Tom Cruise, I'm just really excited to
see what happens with this film. And the fact that this is so quick
too, it makes me wonder if they were already in talks with him before.
Oh yeah, we get this news delayed all the time. So so
yeah, it just makes me think too, Dave, Like we're David and
Gareth talking to each other. No, maybe they're agents or they're playing each
other off each other, right of Like maybe that that hole in talks thing
was for somebody to get more money. Was he just trying to like Gareth
is trying to lean David off the project? You know, Oh, David,
if I was doing this, I wouldn't It's not worth my time.
Or effort or money, and so David leaves the project and then they're like,
oh, Gareth, we'll get you in. Maybe maybe I want to
see Yeah, maybe that sounds like a good movie. I talked, this
is all good. I'm happy to draw much better. Like to me,
Colin Travarro, Gareth, thatwards massive upgrade. Like I said, I really
like great or saw him fine with that. It wasn't like the greatest sci
fi movie that I think we were all hoping for, but still to me,
it delivered. And then Ballerina I already said on that I'm excited to
see The Crow because I'm not like the biggest Crow fan. But the fact
that it's coming this year is interesting because we're gonna talk about but Bill scars
Cards having a nice little summer here now, so and I'm just very curious
how they're going to adapt that movie and do that movie. And it's it's
very big cult classics. I think they're walking a lot of eggshells there.
So sounds like a Edgar Allan Poe tail, is it? So there's some
inspiration there? Okay, uh yeah, I have no no, uh I
get I was gonna say relation that doesn't make sense. No, I don't
even know what I'm looking for. Pro does nothing for me. So you
know, when we're casting this lake is Kirkland to go watch Out Bender,
you know, me and dinner, they're fucking crashing. What's going on?
You're crashing? Garret that this actually like rogue? That's cool? Fast pass
pass after that? Don't you think past there? You go? All right,
let's go into the trailer being a boy Scout Christ Bill Scar, no
question, Boy Kills World. This is a movie that is produces a Barbarian
and Sam Raimi. I can't remember who's direct, you have to look it
up. It's Bill Scar's guard Jessica Roth from The God. What are those
films Happy Murdered, Deaf Day or whatever it is? Right? I think
the one where she's happy Deaf Day, Yeah, when she's over over again
and stuff. So yeah, what are you guys thinking about this one?
This is a guy, I don't know, a guy. It's a revenge
tale, but it's definitely a very different, very over the top, very
tongue in cheek, very high octane type of other worldly one. I was
surprised by this. I think the title is just so close to boy Meets
World. I was expecting something entirely different, and then Bill Scar's Guard.
I feel like I haven't seen him in much, but everything i've I have
seen him in I've really liked like Barbarian as well well, of course it
it's terrifying and john Wick tale John Wick. Yeah, the marquise so very
keep going, just a very different role that he's done. He looks absolutely
shredded and make me think of another scars Guard, you know, a Northman
type Scars Guard character. I want to see these characters. Boy, I
like the idea that he's he's he's mute and deaf right and like the narrator
is a completely different voice. I think it's I think it's actually Archer right
from that show doing the voice. No one knows. I don't think they've
publicly or is it. It sounds like it sounds like, Oh, I
think you might be right. I think they did release the name. But
yeah, it's because I'm like, I know what Bill scars Guard sounds like.
And then obviously this is not him, so having another individual do the
voice for him a change their voice that much, though, I would believe
it could be him. Yeah, he's he goes for it. He's a
committed actor, very transformative. I liked everything in here. I like the
high octane action. Yeah, I just I don't know. This is really
different than what I was expecting, and good different. So yeah, definitely
on my reader, I think I'm I think I'm the opposite. I found
this trailer to be I was just mentally exhausted when it was done. It
was too much stimulus. It wasn't funny to me. I see the angle
they're going for, but it's not an angle I'm particularly curious to venture down.
And then the action seemed uh tad underwhelming for me, So this is
not gonna be for me at all. And I also, Kirkland, I
just was thinking of Boy Meets World because I've been hearing this name for the
last few months. I don't know what I thought it would be in relation
to that property, and never thought about it more. I just saw the
odd person in our discord talking about it, so I don't know what I
expected. It was definitely not this, but yeah, I will I will
be skipping this review. You can cool, you can guarantee that you're right
about the Archer thing, Kirkland, So there you go. Nice job.
He's a weak Yeah, this should have everything I think it does. I
think what I was disappointed to learn is I was liking it was like everything
I was seeing not hearing, I was not if I don't like that the
narrator is also in the movie. I was hoping that it was just a
trailer thing, and it was like, Okay, we don't know how to
market this. This character doesn't speak. Let's have a funny trailer voice.
Guy do stuff. And then it seems like that's gonna be the movie and
it's gonna be his head. None of that stuff was landing for me.
I liked the world. I liked the cast, like fem Ga Jensen,
come on, that's great. I love Happy Death Day. I think Jessica
Roth should be in like a bunch more things. She's very charismatic. She's
kind of one of those actresses where I go, how come people aren't putting
her more stuff? Like it's kind of like a hidden secret. And Scar's
guard He's like, this is like penny Wise all over where he's great at
the visuals with his face right, he's great at this. He's Tom Hardy,
I work everything, so it's like he's the right guy to get who's
gonna play a mute, which is funny because his brother played a mute in
a Netflix movie a couple of years ago, so they're just competing against each
other. So this is like a movie that and I'm not saying I wouldn't
be on the review. I don't know if we do a Soul overview,
it might just be like a like a topic or a cutout or something like
that, but I I I'm definitely gonna see it. There's just aspects where
I worried, and even some of the jokes I think in the true were
like a fifty to fifty. But I think it's something that if you're into
all what I think, this is gonna be like a rocking good time.
Like I know espubs has been looking forward to it, and I feel like
when I'm watching, like, Okay, this is exactly this is like an
s Bub's movie. So it's like if you like s Bub's taste and like
how he really enjoys camp. I enjoy camp. I won't say to a
point, but I guess it has to be the right type of camp,
and with this one, I guess just I'm not finding much of it funny,
and I don't watch Archer, so I'm not like, oh I was
because everyone was like wait till he is doing the voice, and I was
like, Okay, it's just it's that guy cool. So for me,
it's just the narrator that part I think is gonna I really hope in the
movie it's small percentiles. And but by my worry is there's that one scene
where the guy gets killed because like, I'm gonna help you, and then
they drop somebody's like, oh, you know, he wasn't gonna help us,
and then the narrators like, oh, I think he kind of was
going to help us. If it's that the whole movie, that's something that
could get grading on me. Maybe the trailer is having not the jokes that
I would prefer, but that's where I was where take away the narration.
I might be way more higher on this, so I have to wait till
I see that movie. But the actual movie, I was the opposite.
I thought the action was looking good. I was liking the multiple different characters,
easy setup of revenge family flicks, So I like what I saw,
not what I heard. Oh, this has like a ton of action,
which I'm always down for. And yeah, scars guards just looking absolutely just
fucking ripped hotly shit, just sweat glistening off his body. I don't it
looks it looks quirky, it looks, it looks fun. I don't.
I don't know if I would necessarily go and see this by myself. But
if you know, we're going on the west side, I mean, that's
my neck of the woods. Come over soon and I might be to make
that drive. I think it'd be this. This seems like it'd be a
kind of fun movie to enjoy with with like a few folks nearby to laugh,
maybe just us like poor things style. We're we're in one rowing,
two guys are in the back rowing specific Yeah, when does this? And
I think it comes on April. I was just showing you the exact date
there, but yeah, we'll see. If it was a group it was
a group viewing, i'd be more inclined to because then leaves if it's not
great whatever. But so it's April twenty six, okay, because I know
Petrunkla has a question about that second Godzilla and Klung. This is my Garret
Edwards Broque one topic. I got nothing at here, None of this is
looking good. This is looking like a looking like a nightmare movie. I
got a good laugh and like, but we've been handsome and they got the
fucking glove and everything. So yeah, at least I guess they've given you
the plot of what to expect. But I feel like that's what we expect.
It's not like a, oh shit, this is the reveal, so
no, I will well, I'll catch just one on streaming. I'm happy
they're letting Dan Stevens use his natural accent. Good for him. But uh
no, this is especially after Mius one, this is looking like. This
is like you've gone to a new relationship and you you think about your acts.
You're like, oh, I wonder what happened there, and then you
meet up with them five years there you seem like, oh, thank god,
this is I did not end up staying there. Minus one's a new
relationship and God's X Kong is like, no, I can't, I can't
go back. So yeah, nothing from here. Yeah. I thought this
was a better trailer than the last trailer, but I also think that it
showed a lot of the same trailer with a little bit of extra scenes.
Like you said, it showed us a lot of the plot. I thought,
it showed us a lot of the fight scenes as well, like it
like, I don't know how much, really I don't. I really don't
know what else they're hiding from us, because they showed the antagonist Ape fight
Kong underground as well as on the surface. So that's like multiple fights of
like two clashing characters all at the same time. Imagine Kong is or sorry
gods there in the second fight, and it just showed like a lot that
I wasn't really uh anticipating them to show. And Baby Kong you got to
see that. How big is Baby Kong's biggest tailor? As big as Jessica
Chastain in Dylan's mind, though in Dylan's mind so like much bigger character because
I thought after the first trailer that Baby Kong was like, you know,
besides like a human, But now after this trailer, I think in Baby
Kong is still like the size of like a r V or something, at
least the one building. I think, yeah, okay, yeah, the
perspective's way off with these shots. I'm very very confused. I guess,
like that makes sense, but yeah, I was going the last few months
under the impression that he was a small, little, small little guy,
so the babies could probably still pick up the humans too, which is dangerous,
right mm hmm, oh yeah, there's lots of monkeys in that island
too. Like I don't remember Congress, which one comes out first, this
or plenty of the apes? I think this Unfortunately, Yeah, no,
everyone's gonna be burnt out on the apes. They're getting usurped by this film.
They show Godzilla running again, Taylor, is that getting more out to
me? Am I wrong? I think it looked the exact same. I
think it looks the exact same. I don't think I'm probably wrong, was
your question, Kirkle, I don't know. Oh, is there outrage more
because I heard on the first one people are pissed off that Godzilla was running.
Uh, it's just it's he gets progressively faster in every single movie.
I guess from the godsill sucks forums. I hear you like now that was
that was those sucks forms. I'd prefer the slow Godzilla from Gareth Edwards film
over fast, and I agree. I heard a thing about the director of
Minus one got to see Godzilla x Kong and he says he liked it masterpiece,
he said. That's all he had to say. I liked it.
No, he's lying through his teeth. There's nothing he's lying. I just
feel like a guy that makes Godzill minus one is no way he's fucking liking
Godzill X go like this movie about and his ass off, like the Guy
and Goodfellas. Probably he probably likes it because he's gonna realize that everyone's gonna
like his movie more. Yeah, yes, Dylan, you're seeing this movie,
so you you he I'm seeing it, But I didn't. I thought
this was a weaker trailer for me. I also, I mean to curve
the point like it was more most. I feel like at least half the
shots were the same as that first trailer, so it wasn't a whole lot
different, But it just sound was bugging me. Maybe I just watched all
these trailers directly after watching the latest Halo episode, so maybe my mind was
just and I didn't have the band with for it. But it just felt
very loud. There was these portal things going on, and it just felt
like too much. And I know it's God's God Silver's calling. There's a
huge scale all sorts of crazy shit going on, but it just seemed like
maybe too much. But I'm I I made a promise, like, for
example, Taylor promised me that he's gonna see Wonka. I hold my promises,
my promises, So I'll be there for Godzilla times calm and I always
read the subtitle, but I'll be there. I thought you the New Empire.
I thought you were revealing it was that type of promise there. It's
like a walk of promise. Oh yeah, I'll be there and come time.
But no, no, no, I'm gonna fulfill. I'm gonna fulfill
my oath. Is that gonna be a soul of view? Or are you
gonna drag MUDs to this? Solo reviews in all viewing? If Taylor's not
reviewing Taylor Wonker, is you again? There you go? That's that's the
minus one director's comment. You want to say it. The audience lists the
Big Movie early. I was able to watch the Big Movie early. It
is super fun and gorgeous. Be sure to watch it the big screen.
That sounds like a big yeah. That sounds like the popcorn guy before the
Colonna trailers, like big movie? Really yeah? What's he gonna say?
Absolutely not seeing the movie zero chance I'll be alone for those three hours.
The Minus one director says he wants to make a Star Wars film. You
think he's gonna come out here and just start shint on Hollywood projects, like
first thing he's out here, Like, no, he's gonna play ball like
I saw it fucking sucked. So you just just lie in Hollywood, isn't
that's what? Yes? Oh? Yes, an industry losers and brown nosers
many, Yeah, like what do you like? What do you like?
Say? What movie do you not like this year? Like? What's the
movie? Okay, no, Halo? Right, so let's say, you
know, we release Adrenochrome, goes well, you come to a festival and
Pablo's he's like, oh I am Poblo, you can walk back. I
fucking hate Halo. Man, you gonnae through teeth. You're on the big
screen. We're at a film festival playing Adrenochrome and Pablo comes to this,
Oh I saw a movie. I really liked it. Yeah, have you
seen my show Halo? I have this vein. It's it's it's genetic through
all my all my my family members. Add this vein inside of my head
and it'll fucking pop and I'll just fucking bleed out and has planning to handled
Pablo. You can bleed out the generations if you have this. It happens
all the time though, like when they suited like slooped out. Margot always
letter box, she like deleted out and Alon Vlawn he's delete Marvel on anything
like failed Captain Marvel or But it was like, I'm getting ready. I've
actually thought about going through my Twitter and deleting all my Letterbox post. I'm
pretty sure it's like a three out of it was a very low score.
I'd have to find it. She at least said Bree Larsen can do no
wrong. So it was great there, but the rest of the movie she
was not seeing a fan of. But I thought about going to elite my
links to letterbox so people can't find what I write movies only the people I
want, like the patrons and the GIV people. But I can't do that,
you hated, Travis. I love all movies. Movies are hard to
make, you know, sounds guy, He's already Hollywood smoothly. I said,
I'd be in the are're gonna be more positive? I don't want Guard's
gonna the director of Gunzillax coongs and to come to the Jennericorn premiere, like,
Oh, I really love your movie, Travis. When you see what
the Big Movie? Can you put what it was? The quote again?
Can you pull it out there? I deleted it out because I'm talking about
it. I really enjoyed the Big Movie, super the big screen. Oh,
I got to see the Big Movie early, super fun and gorgeous.
Go see on the big screen. You haven't no, you know what you
do? You just do what Kevin Smith does this wedding. It's Oh,
I've been baking my film. I haven't got a chance to see it.
But the second I can, I can't wait. That's what I'll say.
Just not answer no. If if I see a movie once again, these
Hollywood systems and I don't like it, tras off keepers, You'll never hear
a review from Travis ever again. Taylor, what do you think of the
trailer? I mean, it's very simple, simple, it's very similar to
the other trailer. I don't think there's anything really extravagant going on with it.
I'm excited to see the scar king villain against Catina wrote that, Yeah,
my highlight is everything, my my excitement is to see this, this
the other kaiju that's teaming up with scar King, this like Godzilla, like
Arch Nemesis, which they were alluding to in the trailer on the So his
name is Shimo and fun fact again that so my brother, this kaiju is
definitely not like a one that was created by like Total Monsters, and this
is one that legendary pictures is created. But of course if they first alluded
to Shimo and Call of Duty during the Godzilla event because in the you guys
remember the map we're playing and I can't remember what it was called. But
no, I can't wait. They had Yeah, well you you played it.
No, I haven't a chance to be making my movie. See just
like that that was you know, I can't wait, Taylor doesn't. I
don't get it though, because I know the truth. I just yes,
I remember that we we we we shot Godzilla or we shot King Kong,
and I remember you can't do that with that in one guard if I'm in
the room, because I'll be looking at you like, what do you mean?
Travis? Of course I've never I've never heard this man in my life.
But yeah, apparently there are cave depictions in the call duty map where
you could see Shimo fighting Godzilla. So here we go. We got Shimo
popping off, we got popping off with uh you know, I'm I'm not.
I can't wait for the interview. Jaguar. You could have been could
have been a lie, just like your Wonka line. I would have eaten
up every second. There might be a scene where scar King, there might
be a scene where scar King is riding on the back of Shimu going into
battles. I get some real epic ship going on. I'm gonna pull the
Man of Web. I won't see the movie right away, but I can't
wait. List of this review, just five minutes straight of just lore and
I'm just like, yeah, in Japanese it means frost, white or cold
when ship one of three things going back to the ice age. Yeah,
So I'm I just think that after seeing the Monarch TV show, I feel
like this this tuler makes a little bit more sense in terms of just like
the portals and stuff they're showing off going to the center of the Earth.
And I would definitely say that the Monarch show is probably going to is much
more well received and this movie will be. But as long as this movie
doesn't have any of that cheesy kind of humor that Godzilla Versus Kong had,
but I feel like it's ultimately going to have something some stuff like that.
I just wish they would go back to the simpler times of King of the
Monsters and Godzilla. Those two were just fantastic films. And but that being
said, I'm happy to be getting getting more things added to the universe.
Will Scar King and Shimo are interesting. I personally would have preferred those more
like well known villains like Destroyer ar Angiris. Yeah, Jed Jaguar, he
wasn't gonna give mear No, I'll give you a Jaguar, those those like
those classic monsters. Just bring them in. I think they would be super
super cool. Just Jaguar, classic them, like, I know, we
love them. You know he's a classic for sure. Yeah, he's a
classic. Yeah, There's there's some real fantastic crazy monsters they could put in
there, but they keep creating new ones and it is what it is.
Yeah, Civil War got a second trip for that, thinks the last one.
Don't have much to say here? Then I think this was like we've
heard that this is a twenty four's biggest production, and this to me felt
like this was the action trailer. This is like, Okay, we got
to try and get in people that want to see action. Now I think
you don't want those people because they feel like they're gonna go in expecting one
movie and they're gonna get something else. Like I just feel like this is
gonna be a movie that I could see like the cinema score and stuff being
really low because oh yeah, war in America. But it's just gonna be
like heavy political lots of speech, a good or bad whether you decide for
it. But I'm I'm getting really excited for this movie. It's like we
talked about before. I think they're hitting the nail and have a lot of
stuff Garland. Even if all this stuff's not great, it's interesting. So
again, I don't know if it'll be like a Gever Soul review, but
I'm sure we'll talk about it. But I'm excited to experience this and I
think it's one that also if it hits, could come up in like Golden
Geeks and stuff like that. But just a question of how it does.
But yeah, I keep liking what I'm seeing, so I'm very I'm very
interested in this movie, it's I think it's gonna be a really big kind
of hot button, water cooler type of movie. I noticed that too,
and that definitely really just pulling out any of the character or political angle that
the first trailer was really going in on it. So this is a movie
that I've been less stoked on, especially just after seeing Men. I was
like, man, I can't wait to see what that director does next,
even though I don't love that movie, but it was just so weird and
different and interesting, and I was not super stoked on just the general feel
of this. But I gotta say when I finally I think it was before
Madam Webb, when I finally saw it on the big screen that trailer,
I was like, Okay, Like I think I could be into this now,
But then I got this trailer. I'm like, ah, I don't
know, I don't I think I see what they're doing here, like try
to Okay, you have one trailer with that political side of things to get
that sort of crowd, and then you have this one for that more action
crowd. I guess that's maybe the strategy they're going for here. But this
wasn't necessarily the thing that I needed as like the tipping point to get me
to go see it. So I'm still on the fence. Yeah, I
don't know. I just feel like the characters too, Like I was maybe
wanting a bit more of like, Okay, which character am I gonna be
going in rooting for, but like none of them really spoke or did anything
in here. It was kind of a weird choice. So I don't know,
a bit more of an artsy trailer, I suppose, but it didn't
really work for me unfortunately. Yeah, they're asleep. I just realized I
actually never saw the first trailer so earlier. I just watched the first trailer
and didn't see the second one, so as as we were going along there,
I kind of skimmed it. Well. I'm very excited though for this
movie. I think it's a terrifying concept because it's just like I don't want
to say it's reality, but like it seems like America's never been united.
We're talking about it the other day YouTube or talbot. I had no opinions
on it. Very freaky concept and I just I really like everything that I've
seen about this. When I first heard about it, I thought it was
interesting and it's it's still on that route for me. So yeah, I'm
very very looking forward to this movie. Yeah, it's as you said,
it's a scary concept. We are in, uh, we're in uncharted waters
now these days, and it's movies are great at serving as platforms of messaging
and capturing that emotion and delivering those crazy narratives, whether it's just fictional or
non fiction, unless, of course, you are what the fuck is his
name, Bob Eiger and you don't believe movies should be having these types of
messages in them. So there's that. So I think that this trailer was
it was I yeah, the action and it was just intense and crazy,
and I'm excited to immerse myself in this dystopian alternate future that could or could
not have happened, but I get to immerse myself in it nonetheless, and
finally you can lead us off Borlance anticipated movie. This movie has been delayed
a couple of times. Elijah or Elijah would Eli were off directed it,
but it's one of these that he left the sat and then somebody directed it
about like he left the set to go do Thanksgiving and someone did the rest
and they did reshoots and has a bunch of writers, so lots of messy
stuff with this movie. But the trailer came out, the creator says it's
gonna be the start of the Borlands cinematic universe. So that's good. Yeah.
The the only Borlines game that I've played is Borlands. I played and
beaten Borlands two. I played a tiny bit of Borelines one, but I
didn't get into it. Borlands two is where I hit it home with my
friends. Just really really enjoyed that game. So the characters in that,
well, they're they're they're in the movie, but you're playing and you're affiliating
with more or less different characters. So these characters, I don't don't have
a huge realm of knowledge on their backstories and everything with them, but I
know that they're primarily the Borlands one character. So I'm excited for this movie.
I think the trailer definitely looks like it's gonna be just a wild time.
Is it gonna be a great movie and a perfect movie? No,
I don't think so. I don't know if they're gonna pull off that cinematic
universe like they're wanting to, but I'm still excited to to enjoy it.
And to just take it for what it is. I'm curious mostly to see
how the Borderlands fans are reacting to this, because I feel like Borlands fans
are very passionate about that franchise and that series, so I haven't looked at
comments or anything those forums. Yeah, I'll make my way there after another
round in the Halo Ones tonight. But yeah, we'll have to just one
second. Yeah, you're right, this show does suck. There you go.
Yeah, I'll go because I'm probably less positive. Yeah, I've never
had many interests in Borlands and interest in tanking Tina or scrab mcdiddle like all
these people and everything, Like I just scrabb. This trailer is like you
like those Sora videos or whatever, if you said, make me a Borlands
movie, but rip off Guards of Galaxy. This literally looks like they wanted
James gonna do it. Looked like he like I'm not saying look like he
did it, because I think he would look like a better version. But
the editing of it, the pacing, My worry is, and not that
I mean I don't know if Actu'll ever see this movie. It's not like
certain things where I've never played on charter, but I wanted to see that.
I don't think I'll even at home get around to it. But my
worry is like the movie's actually not gonna be like that, and it's very
Suicide Squadish where they just cut the trailer that way and then they had like
a trailer company end up cutting Suicide Squad. So, uh, Clay did
ask, is this the worst trailer ever? I don't think so. I
think it's a fine thing. It just feels like a very obvious ripoff of
other things, right, it feels even less even Dungeons and Dragons, which
I said that is Guardian's galax a byt Medieval Times still felt like it had
its own kind of personality in those trailers, where this does not, like
I said, just feels like an AI version of that. It sucks because
I like a lot of people and well, actually just like Kate blen Schett.
I don't know, I'm saying that, like the girl that younga moron
and Barbie Hey, her agent's killing it. She's in a lot of stuff
there. My favorite was I think it was last year when Kevin Harder whenever
two years ago now, when he got cast and everyone was pushing back,
like all the fans I remember weren't happy about it, the borlandin sucks forums
and they're like, oh, he can't play scrap box, you know,
Uh, he's not a great actor. And then the creator's like, Oh,
don't worry, he's gonna be the best Mountain Lodge guy ever. And
then when you see the trailer, he's just Kevin Hart like doing kind of
a different voice. So yeah, this to me does look good. So
I won't say it's the worst trailer ever, because I think worst shore ever
is stuff like BBS trailer too, where it's they give you the entire twist
movie. Everything like that for me is more of those, because you can
make a bad movie still look good. But yeah, I don't think this
is gonna do well. I don't think that universe is gonna happen. I
don't think it's gonna review well. I just think overall this is not gonna
go well. And I think it's gonna be very similar to early video game
adaptions and uh, yeah, I can't remember when it's out, but it's
not. Yeah, not not. This didn't change my tune before I was
not had no interest. It still remains even less so now, So yeah,
I'm pretty similar. I I feel like I didn't have major interests.
I'm not really attached to the franchise. When the trailer came out, was
a little bit intrigued. I feel like I feel like some of the aesthetic
is actually working for me. Like I've played, I've played a little bit
of Borderlands to at least get an idea of just kind of what's going on
with with the overall vibes and just the insanity that the Borderlands can bring.
And but this trailer just it reminded me of something that I'd seen before and
not something that I loved. So I probably will not be seen this,
but we'll see what happens. Uh Yeah, Borderlands. For me, it's
it's kind of a weird series where I love that first game so much,
one of my favorite games of all time. I played so much, like
played every character to like the max level, pretty much like all the DLC
all this stuff. One of my one of my favorite games played with friends
or solo. Just just a huge game for me back in the three sixty
era. But it was one of those games it was like so good,
like I never really needed more, Like I played a bit of two,
played a little bit of pre Squel but then didn't didn't play three, didn't
play Tales of or any other spinoffs that have happened since then, or Tiny
Tina's Wonderlands and didn't check that out. So it's just like every year,
I care a little bit less about it, just because it's been so long
since I've been in that world. And even then, like I did like
the world. I like the post apocalypt upsetting and the weapons and the like
vehicles and stuff, but mostly I was there for the gameplay and the combat
and not there for the story or these characters. Necessarily. I couldn't even
tell you what the plot is of that that first game, even though I
played through it over and over and over again. Uh So, I don't
know when we come to this like this is this is a bad trailer.
This doesn't look good. I don't think it's the worst trailer ever. In
fact, I would for me, Boy Meets Boy Kills World is a worst
trailer. So answer Clay's question, like, not the worst trailer, because
I've seen a worst trailer today than than this one, personally, because what
I got over this was every fucking Jack Black scene I was dying laughing.
I thought he was so good When he falls in that hole, He's like,
step aside, bitches. That line just got me. I don't know.
I just of course I'm in the bag for Jack Black stuff. Put
Jack Black in front of me. I'm simple man, I'm a fan.
Uh So that that stuff did work for me, which is funny going back
to like I feel like years and years ago is when we got the got
that cast stand, so to finally see it in action is uh is pretty
good for me. I definitely see the The Guardians of the Galaxy knock off
element to it, even with like Elo being the song in there, and
then you Elo, and I forget if it's Guardians one or two, but
one of them rock rocking some Elo in there. So yeah, with mister
Bluesky right, so very fitting. I just felt like all the jokes in
here are very like a low hanging fruit sort of things like that they're driving
through like a a piss field, and like piss goes in and she's like,
oh I can taste it like that. Yeah, that's like bottom tier
humor right there. So yeah, I don't know if any of the characters
particularly grabbed onto me here. Uh, pretty pretty weak trailer, I guess
it does, you know, like pretty good to Borderlands as far as I'm
concerned. Now, all the Borderlands fans are probably gonna hate me for saying
that. But in terms of like my from my opinion, like the the
jokes in that game are also very low hanging fruit, very like immature,
like teenage boys sort of humor, so like it, it seems pretty fitting,
uh for for what's going on here. So I don't I don't know.
I don't really think this is gonna find much of an audience and try
to think you make it a point there. It just feels like a call
or not a video game movie from like five years ago, like that kind
of ilk and not some of the better stuff that we're getting these days.
So yeah, not too uh, not too stoked for this one. But
you know what, I think I'm gonna love claptrapping Jack Black. So there's
one thing that I can latch onto. Yeah, tough release day too,
Like two weeks before it's dead Pool Wuverine, and then a week after it's
Alien, week after that's Craven the Hunter. So I feel like there's some
people will feel like saving their money for so uh. Finally, to end
off this cast, it's two questions, but I will put them together for
s Pub's asked since they're both releasing in April and similar genres, how do
you think Monkey Man and boy Kiells the World will do at the box office?
And then Maddie also asks to rank these projects based on your anticipation?
Right, I raised them from my list like an idiot, even though I
knew this. If you hit if you hit the edit button on the stream,
that's the comments are up there, like the notes right edit button on
the stream. Yeah, if you go up you hit that, then you'll
see all the the projects there. But the edit button on the stream,
Yeah, beside the logo. Yeah, it's all there. Yeah. I
think monkey Man's gonna do better because I feel like if you I don't know
why, Like, am I wrong to think if you were to put them
side by side? Dev but tells a bigger star than Bill Scarscard? Like?
Am I wrong in thinking of that? Like Scarscard has been an IT
and stuff. I just feel like people like Dev Moore and I just feel
like if you, if you put them beside, I think people go I'd
rather go see dev I think also with you if you start see marketing anytime
you throw on produce by Jordan Peele, I think that helps. And I
feel like Boy Kills World is the movie that people could see a trailer and
be annoyed from where Monkey Man looks like, oh, this looks like a
fucking John Wick movie. So and I would personally definitely go see Monkey Man
first because I'm very excited to see what Deav's doing as a director. I
love that whole thing, so I think Monkey Man will do better. I
think they will probably do pretty similar. Let me just do a quick look
in April to see what's coming out. But I could also see Boy Kills
World being a complete just bomb where people don't care about. But end of
the month or beginning obviously, godzill in March is again you got Civil War,
Abigail, Boy Kills World, Monkey So it's a lot of the smaller
it's a lot of the smaller ones. So I'm still thinking Monkey Man would
take it. And then as far as the projects, God, for first
it's Civil War and then it's boy Kills World. And it's really tough for
me to decide between Kong and Borderlands. I think I'd go Godzill and Kong
just because I think I might have more laugh it's so bad, it's so
good, where Borlands might just be the annoying it's so bad. So that's
where I'd say Borlands, Godzill x Kong, boy Kills World Civil War.
So it's my answers for you, s Bubs and Maddie. Yeah, I
think I think Monkey Man. I think that's gonna do better by not a
lot. But I feel like even just between when it because I hadn't seen
that trailer until today either, so I watched that one as well. I
think between those two, I feel like people could see boy Kills a role.
I don't know why that name is so hard for me to say,
yeah, but it is. People could see that, and just like I'll
watch that on streaming. It just it schemes. I'm gonna watch that on
streaming at home where the other one, Yeah, Whereas I think Munkey Man
might just be something worth seeing on the on the big screen. So I
don't know, I'm curious to see what that like, if like the Indian
demographic will step up to really get belind that movie and the way that we
talk about like Black Panther and the way that kind of inspired this this audience
to go see this movie in a big way. I don't know how that's
gonna work for like an American sort of movie like this. I don't know.
I'm curious to see what it does. I mean, maybe able to
huge numbers in India or something like that. I'm sure like I would.
It seems like there might be like a version with I guess Indian subtitles or
something like this over there, which could be pretty cool, and that there's
a lot of people in India, so it could be could be big numbers
over there. I don't know. For my ranking, Oh my god,
what is my ranking for these? I guess I'll go Civil War number one,
followed by Kong, then Borderlines, then Boy Kills World. This is
this is not a great This is not a strong group for me personally,
though, I say all these are fairly low on the list. Yeah,
I would say Monkey Man is going to do better than Boy Meets World,
I think. Although I disagree with what Travis said about Dev Battel being bigger
star than Bill scars Guard, I feel like Bill scars Guard has been in
the much much bigger project, like it's I know it's he's hit with some
makeups, but those eyes sure aren't. And uh, the name sure isn't
on the posters, So I don't know. I don't have a powerful like
backing for my argument there, but that's just the feel for it. Do
you think, though the majority people has seen it? If you ask them
who plays penny Wise, could they name them? I don't think so.
I would like to think yes, but I'm probably wrong. Ask for people
work tomorrow, Just go around and start ask, Hey, well, just
say who plays penny Wise? The morning meaning, I'm gonna just ask everyone
before we go out at it. You got Citney Moon comics too? Everyone
wants to hit me up? Oh man, Yeah, I don't know.
Like Monkey Man, it seems like the Stranger film. They're both very weird
films, but Monkey Man it feels like the more interesting one amongst the two.
And then for my rankings, I bring up the list here. Let's
go Civil War number one, Boy Kills World number two, God's than Borderlands.
That's my final offer, all right, Taylor, and this aw that's
Tarantine number one. Gods the x Kong It's number one, most anticipated uh,
number two, I'd probably go Civil War. I'm very I'm just very
intrigued and curious on this one. I would then go Borderlins, and then
I would go boy Kills World and the other part is spoken. Sorry,
what was the other part again? What do you think is gonna do better
at the box office? Monkey Man and Boy Kills World? Oh? My
goodness, I mean yeah, Patel and h Scars, Guard, Tarantino,
some cruise, Yeah, Sydney Moon a banger guy. I don't have like
a proper position where I can say, like what I think is gonna do
better? But I mean, if I had to just we're not, we're
not. I need ten reasons why. I need a thought provoking reason.
If I was if I was gambling, i'd probably say Monkey Man. It
seems like it's a general consensus. So no, no no no no no
no no no no no no no no, you're saying general consensus. What
do you think? What do you think? Not the general good violation?
Yeah, I think that there is some more interest with the Monkey Man.
I think that the fight scenes in the choreography seem a lot more John Wick
clean than that Boy Kills World, Boy Kills the World seems like it's a
it's a fucking implosion. He's like, fucking sucks. That sounds like a
line from Civil War. Seems like a fucking implosion. Yeah, what type
of American are you implode? Alright, ladies, gentlemen, that is it.
We're done, very long newscast because we had to catch up on a
couple of lots of trails news. Thank you very much. When you hear
from A Staxton, I'll be boring and like I said, next first episode
will be Dune. See you then, m I didn't have energy to do the chance