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Welcome to softcore History. What is
up? Guys? Welcome back to softcore

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History. I am your host,
Rob Fox, and we have a very

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special episode today. But before we
get into that, I'll introduce my co

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host, the dancing Dan Rejester.
What's up, you're dancing. It's been

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a long day. Yeah, it
has been an unlike I guess unfortunate.

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I'm really just tired. Yeah,
we're all tired. We didn't get hilarious,

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we didn't get our Chipotle today.
I haven't eaten all the day.

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Yeah, I've only had one like
knockoff. Yeah, it's not great.

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I'm gonna get home and uh yell
at Courtney until she puts a frozen pizza

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in the oven. Nice. Yeah, it's intermittent, you do it.

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That's what you're doing at this point
is just fasting. You're fasting. Yeah,

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yeah, it's iffing all the way. And another voice you hear is

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Jake Goldman. Hey, I'm not
intermittent fasting now, No, nor any

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other day lately. You're just having
a ranchwater, having a ranchwater, dude.

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You see the other day. Actually, somebody tagged us. I guess

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it was going viral, some guy. I think I had a heart attack

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because he dry scooped. Yes,
I did see that time. People are

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like, oh, Jake and Dan
did this like four years ago. Yeah,

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what is what? Well, we'll
get Oh we have one more voice

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are returning guests. I think you're
the most tenured guest on the show.

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Third time, third time, Veronica
Rock. Hey, guys, how's it

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going. It's going good. I
am really happy you're here today, Veronica,

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because I missed the last time you
were here. You did miss it?

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Where were you? I was on
my second year anniversary in a cabin

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out Nowhere's Ville, Texas. Yeah, huh, that makes sense for you

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guys. It was just him,
and it makes more sense for me.

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It was Jake and his wife and
his dog watching Jake and his wife bang.

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I was actually unfortunately I had gotten
the second vaccine and I was totally

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wiped out poorly. Time we went
to the Fredericksburg before that. Yeah,

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I actually met up with Jake and
his wife. Yes, yeah, we

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got. I was gonna say her
name, but I don't know if I

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when a docks her, Yeah,
I won't. I won't say her name.

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I mean said her name on the
show. Katie Katie Okay, my

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wife's name is Katie. How is
anyone going to find a white woman named

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Katie Haitie Goldman? Yeah? No, Um, I'm not too worried about

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my wife getting you know what,
I don't even want to say that because

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getting docks. Yeah, I don't
want to you never know. Yeah,

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who knows? But docs for what? Who knows? Yeah? No,

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just kiss me? Yeah, because
I exist. That's the last thing I

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want is my existence to lead to
someone's wife. Katy listen, uh me

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pimping out my girlfriend's practice in business
actually got her some some clientele. Really

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drinking bro went in. That's all
I can say. I don't really want

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to according to hit Wait, what
did he get fucking laser? We can't

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can't say because of hippo. Yeah
yeah, but but you know we don't

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get it off heir though, so
it would get her in a deep trouble.

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A listener went in and got let's
let's just continue. Okay, you

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do not get her fired? Okay, A right, right, we know

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what the practice? Well, I
guess like if you need a building built,

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yeah, my wife, Yeah,
my wife's an architect, so that's

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fair. Yeah, that's such a
cool job. You guys are like the

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reverse rom com right, Like you're
in media. She's an architect. It's

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reverse like it kind of is like
she's Tad Mosby and I'm yes, yeah,

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whatever, chick, Tad Mosby's being
Yeah, you're creative. Yeah,

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totally. I feel like every rom
com is like she works out of magazine

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and he's an archy. Yeah,
it is funny. He does math will

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it's crazy. I do. Yeah, they will always do well when there's

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about twenty minutes left in the movie, they will. It's funny. I

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do run in like really just flustered
into my office every day with like four

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Starbucks. I'm like, oh sorry, I'm like first dropping out my portfolio.

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God, you're goofy. You eat
sandwiches, You're just yeah, you

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love pizza. Oh man, it's
like my personality. Yes, yeah,

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that and I can play Xbox and
beer. I bet I drink beer.

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I've had a beer. Yeah,
well, you're the perfect woman. I

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mean I can also sip Scotch if
you let me. Okay, yeah there.

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You guys don't know this, but
We're going to make love to Jake

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when this episode's over. I'm turning
everyone on just with I'm a manic pixie

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dream boy. I think it's yes, I love it. But yeah,

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so speaking of me banging Jake,
we are we have Veronica here today because

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it's Pride month and we want to
Yeah, we want to do a little

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a little gay history today, gay
stuff, gay stuff, but here's history.

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We're we're also straight and we want
to chick on chick. You're straight?

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Yeah, yeah, I'm like so
straight, Like, yeah, girl,

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there's a lot of like, obviously
none of you are so straight.

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I think that's well argued. I've
actually argued before that all guys should be

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bisexual just to drive down the price
of pussy. You're definitely, it's pure

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market economics that all men should be
bisexual. Amen, are bisexual. Everyone's

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bisexual. I mean literally throughout history, we have so many options that we

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could have went with man on man, especially in a domination like type of

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Roman or Greek way. Right now, we couldn't do it. There's you

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know, my favorite thing, My
favorite gay joke is like liking if you're

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a man, liking women is gay, Like, oh, what do you

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she is so soft and she smells
like flowers. That's gay? Do you

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know that? That's the best dirty
rock joke of all times. There's a

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dirty rock quote that uh, Devin
Banks, it's Will Arnett, Yeah he's

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gay, and that's in that show
and he's talking to uh Jack Donneghy Alcoboldin's

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character and Jack like off handily mentions
he's gay, and he was like me,

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gay, you're the one who is
sex with women? What like,

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there's nothing there's nothing gayer than that
you win sex with a man that's as

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straight as it gets. Um,
that's maybe that is where I heard at

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first. It's just like been this
joke in my mind, and it's so

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it's so funny. I mean,
yeah, the bodybuilding community too. It's

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like guys don't live for other gay
don't live for other girls. I as

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a I guess I guess Barncas doesn't
buy. But as an actively cis gendered

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man. Um. Yeah, the
bodybuilding for him is just dudes, yeah,

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complimenting each other's pecks. And the
bigger you get, the more body

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just morpha you have, and yeah, and more insecure you get around other

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men. But actually, here's the
funny converse of that. The bigger you

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get, you actually get more gravity
for smaller dudes to come and ask you

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what you do. You're You're like
a big muscle planet, and smaller muscle

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planets come towards your you become a
neutron star. Yeah, you collapse and

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the way I was never like this. Instead of having sex with a pillow,

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like when I was a teenager,
I would in my bed, I

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would suck a piece of lumber.
Oh yeah, okay, or a rock.

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It is confusing they call it would
theater? Fucking yeah? Is so

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straight? Right? Like that?
I guess I always had a really good

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question. I'm in the same campus
Veronica where like I asked, dudes,

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it's like, okay, okay,
so you how many male friends do you

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have that you would deem like they're
they're ugly? You have ugly male friends?

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Right? You don't have anyone that
you would deem ugly. You're subconsciously

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ranking them at least two. Yeah, yeah, Like it's not few and

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far between. You're putting yourself in
an attractive this category with other people that

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you find similar. Like, so
you have some sort of objectiveness to what

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you think attractiveness is between male and
female. I'll say, right up,

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Brad Pitt and me, Joe Black
is goddamn outrageous, more attract I don't

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think any woman I see, I
don't think anyone disagrees with them. Yeahs

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death? I mean, yeah,
God, how attractive do you have to

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be in order to date somebody who
is death? Like who's death? Or

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how how old he's death? He
is death? He's death? I said

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death, Death's death? Death or
death is? Like I've been corrected on

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this one before. I've got it
right. I know I'm nailed death right,

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but no, Like, all right, if a girl is death,

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how attractive does she have to be
for you to in order for you to

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date her? Do I die if
I hook up with her? When the

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hooking up doesn't count? Like,
obviously you're gonna do you say death or

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death? Yeah? Which one?
Are you talking about? The Grim Reaper

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or not? Sure? Both?
Yeah? Now, actually we'll go with

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death well too. Similarly, is
gonna have to look like Brad Pitt,

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it's gonna be it's gonna be worth
before imagine, Yeah, he probably probably

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the Grim Reaper has to be mean. But uh, we're not talking about

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dude on dude today because one thing
I noticed while researching this, and I

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already knew this obviasally because I'm super
smart. Um was that like all the

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kind of gay history the men.
This is not a pun. Suck it

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up, you know what I mean? Like they all the male attention,

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it all goes to male attention.
And it's so different from today, right,

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come on, that is still a
common complaint amongst you say you say

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girls and gays. If you're a
gay girl, you're not included somehow like

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that. It's guys, you guys, you've heard you see this, these

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people saying like, all right,
ladies and gays that means straight women and

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gay man. If you're a lesbian
who is both girl and gay, like

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you're you don't count and it like
you're not greeted, but you are not.

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So you're engaged to a woman who
is a lesbian, who is a

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lesbian, but you do not identify
as lessian. I am not a lesbian,

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no, I Um, I dated
many boys, um, all the

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boys. But so there's a difference
though between like a guy who's like,

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yeah I did, but I'm actually
gay. Sure, yes, I am

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not the like a closeted, repressed
lesbian. That is not me. I

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was pretty old when I met Taylor
and my fiance, and I don't know.

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I just I was always like a
little curious. I guess, um,

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before that, you were a noted
big dick enthusiast. Yes, like

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size matter, size still matters.
I'll say, um, yeah, but

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you can get it on Amazon.
You can get it on Amazon. It's

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always the right sciences. Yeah,
yeah, so yes, I always eat

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a boys, always into a big
dick. That was me. Um.

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And but I was like curious,
right because I was like, I'm so

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sexual, I'm adventurous, I want
to do this one time. Um went

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on a date, a first date
with my now fiance, and I was

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like, it's just gonna be the
one day. I'm just gonna hook up

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one time, and then like oops, I fell in love. But I

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still like boys. My fiance.
You guys all know her. She is

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not. She is not girl like
I am girl. Um. The US

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Marine Corps, Yes, she's captain
the Marine Corps. She looks like a

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Captain the Marine Corps is ruby rosesque. Yeah, she's a bit ruby rosy.

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Uh. That's like maybe a dated
reference in twenty twenty one. But

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she is, like I could see
that though, Like she's a stud,

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you know, like she is,
and she's a bit of a bro.

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She's definitely a gun owner as well, and owns a big old jeep,

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big old jeep, like a big
old hard ass jeep, like like this

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thing will crush. Yeah, yeah
she yeah, but she's not. She's

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hot. Also, I feel like
we're describing this and it's maybe because people

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are and you have stereotypes. She's
hot. I thought Marine Corps captain encompass

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that put that in. Yeah,
yeah, looks good in a uniform.

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Yeah she is. She's a cutie. I would love to just go down

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a list of all these things and
like reverse of how we talked about them,

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just to see if like it just
pissed some people off or it's like

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Marine Corps like cheap fucking build ship, and then it's like most American person

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you can think of also lesbian.
Yeah, that would just like that would

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just make Mitch McConnell right right,
because they have to have a heart on

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until they're like what do I what
do I do with this heart on it?

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Right? Manti cheep, I'll say
it, Anti Jeep. Yeah,

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I hold their own little wave when
I drive the jeep. I am I

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missing pretty garbage. It's a marketing. I want. I'll never buy a

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cheep Okay, let me say something. They flipped too easy. When you

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see somebody driving your own car,
though, don't you kind of notice that

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I don't ultimotors? No, I
don't. Yeah. The Ford Edge,

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for edge is a thriving community of
soccer moms. I wave to every what

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about it? You see like a
Missouri license plate? You're like, hey,

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it's us no plate? So I
just think I'm a psycho. Yeah,

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right, I do not wave plates, but I noticed I do you

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notice Missouri place? For sure?
I'm like, and my wife is always

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like, just shut the fuck up, yeah, because I'm like, hey,

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and honestly, half the time is
probably a rental car. Make me

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so. I will see Gator fans
scream at each other out of the windows

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if they see each other in shirts
you, oh, I do every time,

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like go guys. Oh if I
see a Missou shirt for sure?

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Well, the fucking one of the
barisas downstairs at the cafe was wearing a

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Missoo shirt one day and I was
like, what the fuck? And I'd

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been like I know this guy because
I've been going there for so long,

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and I was like, what do
you did you go there? And he's

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he was like, I didn't go
there, but I'm from Colombia. And

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I was like, oh shit,
that's that's super rare. I feel like,

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I don't know, isn't this like
a place you come if you're from

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Missouri? From like I feel like
everybody from the Midwest. Yeah. At

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our old company, they were like
several sea Yeah, yeah, many many.

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There are a lot of Jersey.
I've met a lot of Jersey here

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in Austen. Actually that's more random
to me. It is more random.

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But I think Jersey just like New
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yeah, oh they there, Yeah, yeah, we are. Um,

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but I've met a plan. I
have plenty of friends here from Jersey,

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but I find them. I guess
I like that energy, Jersey energy.

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We like that Jersey energy. Nobody
from the Northeast here me besides us,

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I know a lot. I'm just
not kidding. Northeast people too. And

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the West Virginia guys and that's it. Oh yeah, what should I say?

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Westernia, West Vinia Northeast They went
to the school. Yeah, that's

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the only two. There's only four
I can think of. It's a really

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tough. I forget you. Oh
do you not? Well, I'm from

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the town where like the first Wawa. But um, it's okay, it's

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no state of Florida. Florida's now
the Wawa state, right and it has

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better wallwas too, because in Pennsylvania, at least as long as I live

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there, you could not buy beer
in o Wawa. You had to go

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to insane Laws or Yeah. So
like in Florida, it's your one stop

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shop. You get your sandwich,
you get your free ATMs, so you

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get money from the want to go
there. Right now, it's it's all.

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That's all public system. I liked
Wawa better than public so I'm just

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gonna say it. That's a completely
different comparison. That's I like flying ja

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truck stop versus lows like yeah,
sure, well whatever. Yeah, anyway,

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lets let's get into the topic.
We've had some good conversation here.

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Let's get let's get what we're talking
about. So, and I don't like

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keep pushing your gene. I am
pushing. I am an honor of Pride

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month and and and I wanted to
do even though you're not specifically identified as

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lesbian. I feel like we talked
about lesbian history kind of gets usbians.

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Yes, the sea to gay history
for sure, it's like, oh man,

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Greeks bangle to guys. But you
know, there is some interesting things

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about women being with women. Okay, through history. I love to learn

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some hilarious some try. I didn't
do much of the uh, I'll say

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up front, I didn't do much
of the like funny, like a funny

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some of the more fucked up like
trial stuff, because it's like my traffic

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in that. Really Yeah, okay, let's not let's not let's not profit

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from people's misery as much as we
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but to the most part is wanting
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it at the time. So that's
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So we start with ancient Egypt as
everything, because ancient Egypt is essentially

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the oldest civilization and history. People
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pre dates Summer, the Summarians.
It's it might have started during the Stone

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Age. Oh yeah, they didn't
writing then, but it was like civilization.

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It was probably the first civilization essentially. So his story don't actually know

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much about Egyptian homosexuality um, though
it should be noted or ancient Egyptian homosexuality.

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There should be noted that ancient Egypt
is kind of a nonsense term.

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It's a little bit catch all ancient
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now to one thousand BC, so
a bit of a long time. A

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lot can happen. So you know, like what was chill in the old

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kingdom might have been not so good
to the new kingdom or vice versa or

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whatever. But there is one passage
uh written in the dream book of the

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Carl Book carl Berg Papyrus, which
is like a medical book. Essentially,

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if a woman dreams that a woman
has intercourse with her, she will come

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to a bad end. Now,
I don't know if that means that lesbianism

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is man or if it's like I
actually like to take that as it's a

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bad sign that the flooding will be
terrible in the spring. This is just

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wetness. Um, okay, period
joke. But no, I'm not gonna

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period joke. What do you was
this amateur hour? We're just talking about

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wetness. Yeah, I'm really edgy
and on on on the coat. What

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is way more highbrow than period everyone
in the course of course. Yeah,

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but no they're so that's that is
legitimately about all there exists of ancient ancient

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Egyptian god. But there is a
pretty interesting take on ancient Egypt and lesbians

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from Jews Jewish. I've noticed it
got silent. I wasn't looking at you,

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and then I just see your beady
little Irish eyes staring at me with

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a big old shit eating grin.
We're just getting way more into ethnically hating

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each other here, we're the two
Irish guys. What do he calls potato

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monkeys like potato chucking monkeys? Yes, oh my god, that's pretty Who

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do I claim? I can either
way Italian like Irish order, I can

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like I could ally with either.
I'm Italian. I know, yeah,

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you would probably with Catholics or the
big nose. I just don't know,

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you know, tough either way,
that is tough. To be fair,

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I would just call you a spaghetti
chucking mucolini of sorts. So yeah,

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that's a little monkey though. Um
so there is one one writer who has

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some interesting things to say about uh, woman and woman love in Egypt.

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It's a medieval though. This is
it's a medieval uh Sephardic Jewish philosopher by

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the name of Mamonidas. You're getting
into medieval Sephardic Jewish philosophy, So Jewish

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people don't know he's from Spain essentially, Yeah, yeah, it's the very

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Mediterranean looking Jews. He was one. He's one of the most prolific and

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influential Torah scholars the Middle Ages.
He was actually also at one point,

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um well, he was also an
astronomer in a physician, because you did

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kind of one science back then,
you did all. He was actually solid

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Dean's physician for a while. He
was a doctor as well. Um uh

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memidadus or memidadus, whatever you one
call it. He referred to uh lesbianism

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as the acts of Egypt, right, because Jews don't like Egypt. Yeah,

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but they have to portray Egyptians as
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of favor of Yahweh or or God
or whatever you want to call it.

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Um. But really like he was
really actually more interested in portraying ancient Egyptian

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women as sluts because he said they
also practiced polyandry, which means multiple husbands.

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So essentially it was like Egyptian women, just like anyone couldn't get enough

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man women. And there is no
better way to keep some sluts down right

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than call them sluts. I gotta
say, though, it feels it feels

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like it backfire is currently Like I'm
I'm thinking the enslavers were cooler than the

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than the slaves in Asian Egypt.
Like everyone's just getting down all the time.

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Yeah, I don't know, man
um. Like if you go into

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like medieval philosophy from rabbetical and I
do all the time. Yeah, well,

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as we all do. Who doesn't
you know, we gotta follow the

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canonical philosophy of different scholars of the
Torah. But there's some pretty insane shit

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if you go far back enough too, like I mean you have you're talking

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about like the Lesser and Greater Keys
of Solomon at that point and stuff like

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that. What's funny about this guy
is he's not even writing the Torah.

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He's like four thousand years removed from
the writing of the Torah. That's what

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I'm That's what I'm saying. Like, if you go I mean the whole

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thought process of the I'm not gonna
try and like, oh he was just

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like obviously he's trying to can roll
and distort image right there. But um

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yeah, if you go through like
the rabbiitical teachings from the medieval period,

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there's a lot of just insane shit, Like I mean, you can get

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into magic spells, you can get
it really depends on who you're studying.

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Yeah, I feel like the medieval
period is where a lot of both current

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Jewish practice and also current Jewish um
hatred comes from. Oh absolutely, Like

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it's really all born from like that
era. How you want to interpret it?

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Sure, yeah, yeah, well
yeah, like what people from the

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inside that and then from the outside. Yeah, I mean that's why.

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That's why, like the most common
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because it's like most of this shit
sucks, like really weird. Will just

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not do the poor thing. But
what what what's funny to me, by

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the way about this What made me
laugh about that specifything? Always like Egypt

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is chicks took up with chicks.
Chicks, Yeah, they're selling it.

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Chicks have multiple husbands wherever. What's
the funniest about him doing that was they

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essentially they had already made another civilization
or two civilizations. They already put man

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on man sex on them, so
it'd be bad writing to do it twice.

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I see, right, So sodomy, these people are all all the

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men are fucking here, all the
women are y yeah yeah yeah. So

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in Sodom and Gomorrah and what was
I gotta look at the kingdom called Amalek,

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which is kind of in the lavant
as well, I believe, or

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nearby in the Middle East for sure. Uh, they were all gay,

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like men on man on man gay, homosexual. And then Egypt they were

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like, oh fuck, we need
something. What can we say about that?

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They're all slots, you know what
they have like a lot of or

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maybe there's just one like major queen, right Cleopatra? Is she the only

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one? Cleopatra nefertuity would be the
actual like legit Egyptian Egyptian queen. Uh.

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Cleopatra was during the Roman Era,
essentially she was and she was actually

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not even a what Yeah, by
that point the Greeks had run Egypt for

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years after Alexander the Great conquered dynasty. Okay, so then so whatever,

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by the way, you see anyone
being like I can't believe they're having like

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X I think there was a thing
about Galgado playing yeah, and it's like

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she's not African, and it's like, yeah, no, there was Clearpatrick,

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Wow Egypt by then, Okay,
but people don't know that. I

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actually saw quite a bit of black
Twitter being like, you guys are idiots?

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Oh really? Yeah, they were
like, come up, I don't

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think I learn your history. Not
knowing it shouldn't be an excuse to be

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upset about. That's the reason not
to be upset. Well, to me,

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what would be problematic is if the
writers of the film also don't know

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that, yes, you know what
I'm saying, yes, and I don't

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know what the facts are, and
I haven't heard anybody come out and be

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like, well, actually it's because
we wanted to represent the truth and she

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was great. You definitely couldn't reckon
on Elizabeth Taylor because they probably would have

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castled as the Taylor anyway. There
are as Matt Damon for everything. Yeah,

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he was. He was defending the
Great Wall. Yeah, as a

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European. They didn't cast him with
a Chinese guy. He was like a

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European. Really, she's dragons,
but she's she's Israeli, but she's European.

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To set okay, like she's not
like her. She can't trace is

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I don't think she could traces.
Why are you looking at me like I

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know what Galgado? Look you're talking, I don't think you could trace as

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Raeli. Galgado back like, well
she was in the Galdo And actually,

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now that you're saying this, I
didn't know what girl named Gallan high school

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who was Israeli? So it might
be a prep not good dough, that's

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more linguistic. Didn't she like correct
somebody and say it was not GOODO?

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What gat? Yeah? I think
it's like a hard tea. We just

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did it French. I think it
is like because I remember correcting somebody and

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then they showed me a video and
yeah, I think she corrected something on

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a late night show. Actually,
Getta is more the of the area of

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that region. There's a lot of
celebrities like that. Chrissy Tigan is like,

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it's really tig In actually, and
Ariana Grande Grande is definitely correct,

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but she pronounces it grandy And people
always say register and I'm like, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, so you are
also part. We're on the same

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level among the likes. I just
like I said, I never had I've

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never had my name miss pronounced folks. Yeahs Goldmain. Yeah, we both

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have very simple names. Yeah,
my name is pronounced a lot that h

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confuses people, but like it doesn't
like see it phonetically Rock. Yeah that's

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how it said. Choice. Well
I think really it was, or the

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thought is that it was because my
last name is German, and I feel

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like people forget this because I'm like
culturally very Italian and like seventy anyway,

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but Rock is German, and I
think the belief is that it like was

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Rockheimer and then they like cut it
off. They did it wrong. Yeah,

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they didn't know. So my last
name is actually the same. My

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family anglicized, which your family did
too, anglicized their names, and most

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families did that. A read around
World War One actually German names specifically,

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and so mine was Fox, but
just in German was which is Fuchs yeah

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Bucks, Yeah, No, it's
funny that happened to my family too.

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We were the christ Slayers before we
came over and they made it Goldman.

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It's so bush like that would have
been such a cooler name. It feels

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like a lateral move. Yeah,
I know, well nowadays with connotation,

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but yeah, yeah, very cop
but uh so in ancient eyshypt so that

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was what the Talmud did. Talma
slayers had slayers, fuck scholars. Scholars

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had to say. Still, though, women during the New Kingdom and Egypt

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actually enjoyed a pretty relaxed and intimate
atmosphere like uh, including with female slaves

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who were scantily clad or naked out
of the time. Uh take that as

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you will thousands of years ago.
Yeah, and also very warm. I

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do picture them though, like a
Game of Thrones, like naked slave girls

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not that off, I think.
I think it's not. I don't think

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it's like hot. I think they
probably wore these like like flowy linen fabrics.

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It makes sense. I don't know. In my Latin book there was

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in high school, like my like
Latin textbook, I think they had the

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like slave girls dressed of that.
What is it, Puella? Is that

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slave girl? Do you guys know
were uncula? I don't remember. I

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mean, Coop, can I get
some ranch waters? By the way,

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that's part of our show now we
just asked for ask Coop for ranch water.

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Well, the thing is rob rob
us to actually just go on drink

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or a piss mid show because he
couldn't hold it because you know, he's

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he's a baby, like crushing drinks's
pregnant, we are pregnant. It does,

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it does kind of give the audience, though, a brief break of

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him bourbon in to the mic.
Though yes, yes, yes, yeah,

404
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,759
it's the only thing he gets in
there. It's like talk. The

405
00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:11,720
only thing he actually talks into the
mic is when if I have to swallow,

406
00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:17,599
I'm like, uh, you're not
watching me. The people who are

407
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:25,519
listening. I move away the mic. Sorry, good radio. So we

408
00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:29,839
moved from ancient Egypt to ancient Greece, where getting gay was for dudes only.

409
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,680
Dudes only, Yeah, dudes only. Really? Uh. In classical

410
00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:41,079
Athens, the idea of homosexual women
is briefly mentioned in a speech by or

411
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:45,759
in the speech of Aristophanes, which
is part of like Plato's symposium, which

412
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,960
I don't know what the fun that
is really, but why not, thank

413
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:56,839
you, sir um. Later references
to female homosexuality in Greek literature include an

414
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:03,039
epigram by a clip be at Us, which describes two women who reject aphrodites

415
00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:10,799
rules but also do reject aphrodites rules, but instead get into other things which

416
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:17,319
are not seemly okay. So again, so it is like still bad news,

417
00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:21,079
like you're still it's not ideal,
and we'll kind of get into why

418
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,759
and a bit it. I kind
of like to go through it. I

419
00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:26,039
mean, meanwhile, there was another
work. Uh there's another guy who who

420
00:30:26,319 --> 00:30:30,200
um or the same guy. I'm
sorry, the same guy asked for Finney.

421
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,920
Who's who's talking about? Yeah,
it's not seemly or whatever. Meanwhile,

422
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,640
like women getting together not okay,
but he was like in that same

423
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,640
writing, was like, but yeah, I do. I do have a

424
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,160
couple of dudes though, and it's
really interesting. We should explore that in

425
00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:47,079
death. Oh so he admits like
I'm kind of a hypocrite. Well no,

426
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:52,839
he doesn't make he's a hypocrite.
Okay, he's just like that you

427
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,359
are the hypocrite. Yeah, son, men in Greece weren't really cool with

428
00:30:56,839 --> 00:31:00,720
women getting down. Yeah of course. Well here's the thing, right and

429
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:06,759
what I'm hearing you saying right now
is just like women being sexual is an

430
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:11,400
issue at all, and especially the
idea that it would like render a man

431
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:18,279
useless is like extra problematic, like
which is still that we don't do this

432
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:26,480
podcast. Okay, is it not
problematic of God, we need to do

433
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:32,319
whoever we want and women? Yeah, that's that sounds like it's yeah to

434
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:38,160
whoever we want, Yeah, and
we'll just throw this I think. I

435
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:47,319
mean, like it's still the case
where like men are threatened by because right,

436
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:52,039
a lot of guys can't bring a
girl to finish line a lot and

437
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:59,359
maybe one thing it's no her whatever, but like women care like it ladies

438
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,640
too, and this like threat of
like, oh, it's not that they

439
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,680
were never sexual or like never had
desire when they were with me. I

440
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:09,680
just wasn't good at it. Like
that is so that is so threatening to

441
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:15,079
the ego and like from the beginning
of time from what I'm hearing, isn't

442
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:19,319
like literally yeah, of course pretty
much. Also think that part of that

443
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,880
though, that people that like men
don't give enough credit to is that like

444
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:30,279
there's even if you're fucking awesome,
there's there's always going to be women that

445
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:37,759
you can't get or anything like for
the like, there are times where I've

446
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:44,079
hooked up with girls where it is
everyone's, yeah, do I've fucked at

447
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,599
least three times at least once?
You know that definitely I do have a

448
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:52,680
receipt? What about you virgins?
I have never seen none of us do

449
00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:00,599
have a recipe without the transaction?
Actually, yeah, you're getting charged with

450
00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:05,680
that. Yes, women where it's
been like no problem, where it's been

451
00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:07,559
like oh my god, we're so
sympatica oh, and it's like happening or

452
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:12,000
whatever. There's also been women where
it's like I don't know what I could

453
00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:19,759
possibly do, so I I don't
think this is necessarily like oh she just

454
00:33:20,079 --> 00:33:22,200
can't. It's like, oh,
we just can't. Yes, you know.

455
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:28,839
And I feel like there's a lot
of like emotional stuff going on there

456
00:33:29,079 --> 00:33:31,599
or like people are drunk or like
not comfortable yet, and like it is

457
00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:37,680
I think generally, well I can't
say for all women, but like for

458
00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:40,480
me, it's a lot harder for
me, I think than a lot of

459
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:46,599
other women, um is. And
like I also like it's it's not really

460
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,359
as much always about skill. It's
about the like give a shit, like

461
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:55,200
do you care? And like are
you not asking this question? Like I

462
00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:58,839
hate I want to do it.
It's like, well did you finish or

463
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,880
like no, probably not in the
room for you in the room, did

464
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,680
I did I finish? No?
Like yeah, give him his metal.

465
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:12,119
No, I never I did.
I never faked it. I never told

466
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:15,000
the guy asked if it was no, because I'm like, that's rewarding bad

467
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,199
behavior, even if he did make
him earn it, like further on,

468
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,920
be like now you gotta go,
gotta go harder. I'm never thinked it

469
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:27,039
ever weak. It is a waste
of time, and for what no one's

470
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:29,960
getting it. Say she actually does
make you get off, or if she

471
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:32,239
makes you get off, don't reward
her by saying she did or he did.

472
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,760
But it's not. I mean,
well, well that's that's I definitely

473
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,519
can't speak. You're not doing it. You want to make them always constantly

474
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:47,360
question themselves. That's basically I don't
think I could. Like it's easy to

475
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,199
like pretend you did if you didn't, which I have never done. But

476
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,480
I think it's hard to pretend you
didn't if you did. It's really hard

477
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:58,239
as he could just be like very
hard as a man unless you're staying.

478
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,719
But like I've actually faked it before. Now you can with a condom.

479
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,960
You can with a condom, yeah, I see that. Yeah, and

480
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,840
then you run away and throw it
out real quick. Oh I just fine.

481
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:13,760
I don't like to be there during
the throw out process even more so.

482
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,000
It's definitely they're like, let me
see the comp I just doesn't look

483
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,960
as messy as it should. I
always just keep rubber cement in my hands

484
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,920
at all times. I just throw
it. Just got a got a little

485
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,639
bottle of white out. He's shaken
up in the back. Just I think

486
00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:32,039
that is the thing I miss the
least. Come honestly, Oh, well,

487
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:38,679
yeah, semen, it's not it
seems like the worst part. It's

488
00:35:38,679 --> 00:35:45,840
the worst part. Some people like
it. Yeah, it's not every most

489
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,440
people don't. Like. There's a
lot of people I feel like we were

490
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,440
like, oh, Dick's a rasshole. It's the Well, there's a fitness

491
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:55,239
influencer that actually drinks semen in her
protein shake every morning. Oh that that

492
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:00,320
seems she's trying too hard. Yeah
that was really good. Figure. You're

493
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,599
laugh now. But when she lives
forever, it's fine, keep it.

494
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,480
I don't need to live forever.
If you could live forever by drinking,

495
00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:09,039
come, would you? Yes?
Yeah, you just mix it in with

496
00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:14,400
your we don't even taste it.
Essentially what you buy your own supply.

497
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:16,880
I think I think we don't need
to buy your own supply. Yeah,

498
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,719
you know if you had to get
it from someone else. Ye, I

499
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,719
feel I'm sorry you buy buy your
own supply. You mean like, do

500
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:28,599
you drink your own common? Yeah? Okay, every every dude, whether

501
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:30,320
they want to admit it or not, when they were like fifteen sixteen when

502
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,239
they're hitting people, You've drank your
own comm now, but they you need

503
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,880
to blow themselves. They not You
wouldn't try to blow yourself, but you

504
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,719
jerk off and you get like a
little extra in your hand. There's some

505
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,360
point in your life like where you
just kind of go like the quick lick

506
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:49,440
you did, quick lick you?
Yeah, everyone's done. It really freaks

507
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,039
really everyone's try like when you're when
you're a kid. Times, Yeah,

508
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:59,039
how was it? You gotta you
had to know and not enough to make

509
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:00,519
a difference, but enough to know. I didn't want to full load in

510
00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:07,199
my mouth. Honestly, maybe every
guy should do it for like sympathy purposes

511
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:12,320
empathy if someone actually suggests that there's
like a ryer who wrote a thing and

512
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,280
it's like every guy should get fucked
in the ass, and so it was.

513
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:19,519
Yeah, there was like I was
like a couple of years ago,

514
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:21,719
we were on Twitter blown up about
it. People were just like, no,

515
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,039
maybe what if the guy doesn't want
to too bad? Yeah, okay,

516
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:28,679
wait a minute, Yeah, we're
going down a different narrative here.

517
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,960
Yeah. Yeah, give it up
for gay guys. I guess that is

518
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:37,960
a lot of work. I would
not, not for me. Some people

519
00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:42,320
do like it, like not for
me. People like all kinds of stuff.

520
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,360
Yeah, that's really, that's all
kinds of stuff. Speaking of which,

521
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:51,679
despite the fact that the Greeks didn't
talk regularly, didn't talk about lesbian

522
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,119
sex too much, women using dildo's
pretty common. I know a little bit

523
00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:59,840
about that. It's in Greek vase
paintings. Um here, I do have

524
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,760
a thing for the class. Oh
wow, okay, is that going to

525
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:09,039
be up on our on your Yeah, she's that's a big boy to dude.

526
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,599
I know a little bit about this. I don't know if you're going

527
00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:17,119
to cover it, but I need
to share this. That thing Actually they're

528
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:24,679
attacked by another tribe original vibrators.
They like filled some kind of something with

529
00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:30,360
bees to like make it vibrate,
and like that was like the original vibrator.

530
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,000
So there's just like a insert bees
part. Yeah, I don't know

531
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:37,719
how it works. They removed the
same their honey bees, so you know

532
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:42,079
it must have been some kind of
thing that just closed. Yeah, and

533
00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:45,000
back when we had enough bees to
do that, Yeah, now we can't

534
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:50,760
do We can't be wasting our bees
on vibrators. Another loss for one minute

535
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,119
only. Yeah, yeah, that's
incredible. So one thing I read I

536
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:59,440
didn't included in this because it wasn't
queer specific, but it was dildos.

537
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,840
The bread dildos bread bread dildos,
like like a loaf of bread they would

538
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,920
use bread. Yeah, essentially,
my baggets are pretty hard. I was

539
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,719
gonna say, it's just a French
back get Yeah, they're a hard crust

540
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,719
Baggett style for sure. Yeah,
all puffle work on a dick loaf one

541
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,960
day. I really wish we had
it here today. I would love some

542
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,079
time someone should tell me that we're
gonna have a guess bread. Also,

543
00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:24,760
if you make a sour dough,
that's good. Probiotics there too, that's

544
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,239
actually great. All I'm saying is
there's zone there's not enough yeast here.

545
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:38,119
Okay, okay, first the one
joke joke, okay, uh, there

546
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:44,480
was one other thing interesting thing from
ancient grease in Sparta, there was like

547
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:47,559
it's well known thing where like men
would essentially groom boys. It was called

548
00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:55,119
Erastes wrote a romanos relationships that existed
with women as well. Oh I didn't

549
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:58,679
know that. Yeah, it was. It's pretty they're pretty certain about it

550
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,719
one hundred percent, but they're pretty. So that Spartan women essentially took up

551
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:07,920
the same sort of twenty to thirty
something on teenager relationship. They were just

552
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:13,639
drake, yes, yeah, but
like a lesbian drake is a lesbian,

553
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,639
isn't There was also like these choirs
and ancient Sparta that they were like it

554
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,400
was like all women and they're alone. They're like, yeah, like their

555
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:21,760
chicks were definitely hooking up in that. Well. I think any environment that's

556
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,719
like all women for an extended period
of time, there's probably some of them

557
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:31,719
that are hooking up. I think
any environment, yes, any any mono

558
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,880
sex, I guess, mono gendered, mono sexual, whatever you want to

559
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,920
call it. The society that's gonna
happen because people are gonna want to fuck

560
00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:44,719
no matter who's around. Right,
Like prison, everyone's get in prison,

561
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,000
which means everything I read from some
guy who was in prison, and he

562
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:51,280
was like, I don't know how
you could be in prison longer than five

563
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,079
years and not do something gay?
You can't. Yeah, that's Oh,

564
00:40:54,159 --> 00:41:00,599
this is a question I used to
ask before I was a gay. I'm

565
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:06,880
not again before by sextual Wall officially, um, but before those days,

566
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,559
I would always ask people like,
how long are you in prison before you're

567
00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:12,599
gay? Yeah? How long?
And for me, I was like,

568
00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:15,840
it depends what my sentences. If
I know I'm going to be there for

569
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,880
five years, I'm probably just giving
it up like day one, finding myself

570
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,880
a daddy and like going for it. Bronco's like one's booking done. Like

571
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:27,039
honestly, actually, this is the
question for all of you? How long?

572
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:32,199
How long before you're gay? For
sure? If I knew I was

573
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,000
there for more than a decade,
I'd probably just like yolo it from the

574
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:39,760
start, right years? Well,
and the thing is still am I still

575
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:45,199
married? Like I'm even though I'm
there my wife right fair? But like

576
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,920
if I knew I was there long
enough that I was like, there's no

577
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,480
way this marriage lasts, right,
Like if I got life, I would

578
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,559
for sure yellow at day just to
just start like why hold, I would

579
00:41:57,679 --> 00:42:04,159
interjects real quick. Yeah, I
don't know how different it is between men's

580
00:42:04,199 --> 00:42:07,360
and women's prisons. A lot of
times in these situations, you'll really get

581
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:13,559
a choice in the matter, right, Yeah, that's that's your have a

582
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:15,920
choice in the matter. I think
I'm gonna last. We're talking about a

583
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:22,119
really fun Sandals Max security. Yeah, sure, I'm gonna last ten at

584
00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:27,320
least ten minutes. Okay, Yeah, so you're you're going right away too.

585
00:42:28,159 --> 00:42:30,840
Yeah. I mean I think I'm
taking out in the showers, So

586
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,480
I don't think I get a choice
in the matter. Like unfortunately, Yeah,

587
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:40,199
I feel it. I'm gonna find
the lucky Pierre. You're gonna be

588
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:45,559
the lucky Pierre. I feel like
I've talked to Taylor about it, and

589
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:47,519
I'm like, if I'm in prison, I'm like, I'm gonna need to

590
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,519
sidle up next to somebody who can
protect me and you know that. And

591
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:55,360
she's like, fine, like,
yeah, you're right, or just go

592
00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:00,039
full human centipede. Well, we
don't, we can't. We can't.

593
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:04,679
I don't know why they can't.
I don't know why sow yourself to someone.

594
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,800
Yeah, that seems like a terrible
idea in prison. I mean what

595
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:13,000
else are you gonna do other than
yourself a lot of eating. I don't

596
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,679
know, man, there's ball courts
and stuff. They're like, you could

597
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:21,239
do a little sexual right, That's
just somebody's fucked up thought. Human centipede.

598
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,360
Yeah, that has not been happened. That has not happened in real

599
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,880
life to my knowledge. Okay,
it probably has since the movie. You

600
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,440
think, well, if anything,
it inspired it for sure. Yeah.

601
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:31,039
Like, also, I don't know
why anyone, first off, not a

602
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:36,920
centipede. There's still only like what
six legs limbs or eight eight limbs.

603
00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:40,920
The people on the on the back
end, they're dying for sure. They're

604
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:47,599
not gonna make it either, not
doing great. Front's doing fine, thriving,

605
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,880
front crushes, front crushes. If
you have to be in the human

606
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,800
centipede, pick the front. You
want. You want food, whatever you

607
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:05,880
want and a constant ring job.
Do you want pudding? The fishhead stud?

608
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:13,559
Oh God? Ancient Rome to move
ye? Their ancient Rome was a

609
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:19,800
little uh more documented with lesbians in
ancient Greece. There's a famous Greek writer

610
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:22,760
during the Roman Era, but at
this point that it was part of the

611
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:28,719
Roman empire Um named Lucian, who
wrote a famous work called Dialogues of the

612
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:34,159
Courtesans, and he had a couple
of interesting observations. He said, they

613
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,800
say this is where the term lesbian
comes from. They say there are women

614
00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:42,119
like that in Lesbos, masculine looking, but they don't want to give it

615
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,960
up for men. And I love
that. The Latin translation is give it

616
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:46,800
up. That's awesome. We've been
using that term for a while. Huh,

617
00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:50,880
that will give it up. It
won't put it out for men.

618
00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:54,960
Instead, they can sort with women
just like men. In another dialogue,

619
00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:00,559
that's me, Yeah, I'm doing
that. What is it? Who tell

620
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:09,639
me about the phrases? Lucian guy
would be a lesbian in this one because

621
00:45:09,679 --> 00:45:14,599
they're from Lesbos, wouldn't they The
Lesbos is an island in the Aegean And

622
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,800
weren't they lesbians at Lesbos? Yeah? Well no, it just wasn't all

623
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,280
women island and they called Lesbos.
And I think that is where the word

624
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:27,320
lesbian arrived, where maybe Amazonians were
inspired by as well. I didn't really

625
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:32,400
include Amazon have anything that great in
there that wasn't um, but yeah,

626
00:45:32,559 --> 00:45:39,800
enough South American history out there.
Um, that's me consort with a woman

627
00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:45,000
just like a man. Yeah,
well it's more well, oh, is

628
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,599
consorting with you like a man?
Oh? Like a man? Would I

629
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,840
got I was consorting with a woman
who's just like a man. No,

630
00:45:51,960 --> 00:46:00,239
no, you're lesbian. History that
I found doing soft core research on this,

631
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,119
because this is not in depth at
all, is essentially like a lot

632
00:46:04,159 --> 00:46:08,679
of times they'll just attribute one of
the women to being like mannish, yeah

633
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,559
so or whatever, and through history
essentially we'll get this later. There's a

634
00:46:13,559 --> 00:46:15,679
lot of people who are like,
yeah, it's not actually sex if there's

635
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:20,960
no penetration, and is also still
believed in it's so stupid. Yeah,

636
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:27,920
it means like you can only ah, well, they do believe that you

637
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,480
don't need a dick to do the
penetrating, but there just needs to be

638
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:37,400
some sort of phallic penetration. Okay, so fingering wouldn't be enough. Okay

639
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:43,239
wait really yeah, from what I
gathered, here's the thing. It was

640
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,880
phrased me so beautifully at one point, and like my perception of sex like

641
00:46:46,039 --> 00:46:52,159
obviously changed once I started sleeping with
women. But um, like you gotta

642
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:59,440
think of sex as a whole h
l e, not a whole hlle And

643
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,800
I think that's beautiful and correct.
So it's a journey, you know.

644
00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:05,599
Yeah, it's a whole journey.
Trust the process. Yeah, it is

645
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:09,719
the process because nobody likes it's not
the isolated act is like not what's fun

646
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,440
for anybody. It's the whole process
anyway, And like it when you think

647
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,639
about it like this philosophically, it
then makes the concept of virginity so stupid,

648
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:24,000
which it all it is famously is
like I don't know, I don't

649
00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:29,440
know, I do it makes sense
to me there's value to that threshold if

650
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:36,199
you're talking about heterosexual or or maybe
even like I don't know, like man

651
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,880
on man sex, Like there's a
difference between blow and someone and and take

652
00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:44,360
to me, And I've said this
before, and you know, I've said

653
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,960
this before, and I think it's
true for a lot of women that a

654
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:57,480
blow job is much more intimate to
me then than yeah, you're you're completely

655
00:47:57,559 --> 00:48:00,480
servicing someone in that scenario, it's
so much more vulnerable. It's so much

656
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:05,960
more like intimate. And like I
think, I'm sorry girls too, Like

657
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:08,400
yeah, I think, I think
And then like I guess in like you

658
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:13,920
know, Italian culture and like early
eighties nineties, going down on a woman

659
00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:15,199
was seen as like a sign of
weakness. It was. This is what

660
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:21,920
I'm saying. There was a thing
actually trending on two gay. Yeah,

661
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,960
yeah, there was a thing trending
on Twitter today. How DC. I

662
00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:29,519
guess it's point in some cartoon or
something or but like an adult cartoon,

663
00:48:30,159 --> 00:48:31,840
not adult like porn, but adult
like. It was made for adults.

664
00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:37,400
Batman Harley Quinn's pussy, and DC
asked to get have it removed because the

665
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:43,519
superhero wouldn't do that today. Yeah, I was look at my Twitter right

666
00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:51,639
now. I think Harley Quinn famously
bisexual. I don't famouslyzations, but it's

667
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,400
I think there's also like kind of
big and like the black community too.

668
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:55,840
It's just like it's seen as a
sign of weakness to go down. I'm

669
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,519
sorry Batman goes down on Catwoman.
That makes sense. DC asked the Harley

670
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:04,840
Quinn team to remove a scene in
season three where Batman goes down and cat

671
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,119
Woman because heroes don't do that.
That was today. Do you mean the

672
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:14,159
rich billionaire doesn't go now first out
the first thing. Yeah, I'm sure

673
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:17,880
he does whatever he wants. He's
a billionaire. Yeah. Um god,

674
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,400
this is so problematic and then here's
the other thing, like that's also true.

675
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:30,239
I'm pretty sure I've not checked off
on this. But a movie is

676
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:35,559
rated pg thirteen if a blowjob is
simulated, but are if oil sex and

677
00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:38,840
a woman is simulated, wow if
a blowjob because a movie also guests are

678
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:44,320
if you use the word fuck more
than ones more than once on pg.

679
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,599
Thirteen. Right, but like they
could like if there's a you know,

680
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,159
a girl on her knees and you
see a guy like you know, not

681
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,800
that you see too much, but
that's pg thirteen. Yeah, but if

682
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,920
it's for a girl, you see
the guy coming up from the under the

683
00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:00,960
covers, it's r and it's just
like this, like I don't know this

684
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:05,880
notion of like female pleasure being taboo
and it's just so so well, let

685
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,400
me get into that rope right here. There's another dialogue abscribed to Lucian where

686
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:17,119
two men debate over which is better, uh, guy on guy love or

687
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:23,760
heterosexuality man and woman, And they
were kind of I guess and a fucking

688
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,280
stand still. They're like, I
don't know, they're booked pretty great.

689
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,159
But the one guy finally kind of
I guess one the argument by being like,

690
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:36,800
well we can't fuck each other much
as we would like, because if

691
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:44,119
we started making like dude on dude
love is legit, then soon lesbianism would

692
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:47,599
be condoned as well, and that
can't happen. Ah, oh my god.

693
00:50:47,679 --> 00:50:52,440
I'm like, this is just like
me making you cringe for it's what

694
00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:59,199
happened as you didn't you didn't write
the history. It's just so like chicken

695
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:07,079
out just at actually a timelord.
It's actually every account you read is just

696
00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:09,519
robbed back in time. Also,
coo, can you read like four more

697
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:13,239
ranch waters? I'm just out all
right, d not give him more ranchwater?

698
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,519
Yeah, give me. It's just
it just bothers me so much because

699
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:23,000
all of these things are what like
give women like issues today, Like all

700
00:51:23,039 --> 00:51:28,119
of this stuff, like these mindsets
still hold and it's like that is a

701
00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:30,719
male insecurity, Like that is what
that is. And we're reaching about like

702
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,880
four thousand years into the past exactly, and it's like we still haven't gotten

703
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,719
over it, like grow up right, Like it's just I don't know,

704
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:45,519
and I feel like I am like
so passionate about like women being sexual and

705
00:51:46,119 --> 00:51:52,360
like always was and that's like the
funny thing that is too like it would

706
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:58,000
get dudes laid more if more chicks
were allowed to like it, allowed to

707
00:51:58,079 --> 00:52:01,000
express their sexuality. Exactly right.
But but let me ask you this.

708
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:05,719
I'm not disagreeing with you. I
totally do. Coop is the goat.

709
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,920
Thanks cute for giving rock booze and
oh okay, I'll take one. They're

710
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,840
not not for the table, but
they're one for me. But what I

711
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,320
will say is that what is it
you know it gets to it's laid more.

712
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,199
But I will say that in the
backwards ass like thought process. Now

713
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,239
it's not a big win because yeah, it's not. I earned this.

714
00:52:25,639 --> 00:52:34,079
I'm so special. Women need to
pretend they don't want sex so a guy

715
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,519
feels good about it. Yeah,
and what is that condition? Is that

716
00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:39,719
condition? What is that condition?
Though? It conditions people to not know

717
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:45,199
what no is? Right? Yeah, I mean was the thing in college

718
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:51,960
like which I is bad. It
is bad to do the playful know or

719
00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:55,880
to pretend you don't want to so
that we don't know what is Yeah,

720
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:00,440
it's bad, and I mean it's
bad for other women who want to say

721
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:07,920
yes or like, it's just it's
bad for everybody and like it's not I

722
00:53:07,039 --> 00:53:13,239
don't blame young like nineteen year old
girls for feeling like they need to do

723
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:19,159
it. But it's literally bad for
everybody that that's a thing. And who's

724
00:53:19,199 --> 00:53:22,679
who's also like the biggest perpetrator of
like slut shaming other girls females well,

725
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:30,159
and I have thoughts about this,
and I I feel like girls don't support

726
00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:36,320
other girls. I feel like girls
who slut shame other girls. It's like

727
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,599
this thing like they are shaming someone
for doing what they are afraid to do.

728
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,559
Yes, and it's like they think, in their mind, I'm playing

729
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:50,239
by the rules to make guys like
me, and she's she's cheating, she's

730
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,880
doing the easy thing to like make
them like her, and she's better at

731
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:58,239
it because yes, And they are
like so mad that like you took the

732
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,159
easy way when they like do it
right, and it's stupid, like just

733
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:06,519
fuck if you want to fuck,
or just don't if you want to down,

734
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,239
but like and really that's the lesson
you should take away. You have

735
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:13,159
to start. Fuck. That's that's
actually gonna be our next T shirt,

736
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,840
just as fuck just fuck. Yeah. Um, I think I mean that

737
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:21,440
can be extrapolated though any kind of
legislation against sexual morality to you I mean,

738
00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:25,000
like look at look at aside from
abortion, though those are relatively gone,

739
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,800
I don't know, you still have
people that can't like visit I mean

740
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,360
maybe not anymore now, but like
I know, like people can visit their

741
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:39,079
husbands and hospital that's probably gone now, but it just happened. It just

742
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,639
happened though, Like I mean,
but what I'm saying is though that pretty

743
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,639
much all that legislation at this point's
gone. Yeah, sure, But also,

744
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:52,280
like, for instance, how many
fucking people in certain states South Carolina

745
00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:57,599
do you think there are that are
trying to pass further legislation or get that

746
00:54:57,639 --> 00:55:01,119
back on the docket because you know, damn well they're into that ship.

747
00:55:01,159 --> 00:55:05,320
But they're playing they can't they legally
can. Oh no, they have to

748
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,719
reverse it in the Supreme Court,
right, yeah, they want all rules.

749
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:15,320
Also about gay people is also this
it is also what we're talking about

750
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:21,159
sexual like legislation and like morality based, like that is what it is.

751
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,320
And like people think, like,
oh, we have gay marriage, it's

752
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:28,039
over, like we did it,
Like it's not like there's still a lot

753
00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:31,559
of discriminatory laws against gay people and
that is all sexually based and morality based,

754
00:55:31,639 --> 00:55:36,760
and like Texas, like you can
still at well fire someone for being

755
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:46,079
gay and tease ye just passed.
Was the the what was it the there

756
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:49,360
was one guy. I forget which
judge it was. It was actually like

757
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:55,719
the funniest I brought it up to
the worst way possible. Yeah, yeah,

758
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,119
they'll actually it was so that did
get passed. So that's not a

759
00:55:59,199 --> 00:56:05,760
thing anymore. So it just happened
within you don't need a reason. Taylor

760
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,519
was deployed. Again, they're not
listening to the right works that you don't

761
00:56:09,519 --> 00:56:13,119
need any you don't need a reason. It's the thing in Texas that is

762
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,519
true. Yeah, so yes,
you could disguise it as something that was.

763
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:20,840
The lawyer was like, the lawyers
argus for your court assially like you

764
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:27,199
shouldn't discriminate against because the argument was
you could fire someone for being gay es

765
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,039
actually and and the lawyer was like, you shouldn't do that because it's wrong.

766
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,639
But can you think that The judge
was like, but since they were

767
00:56:34,679 --> 00:56:40,360
already anti sex as in gender discrimination
laws where it's like, you know,

768
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,880
you can't fire someone for doing something
like doing something womanly or being a woman

769
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,199
or whatever. The judge was like, well, that does anything to do.

770
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,760
What it has to do with it
is if I can't fire a woman

771
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,199
for blowing a guy, I can't
fire a man for blowing a guy.

772
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,360
Yeah no, it's like the lawyer, possible to do. The lawyer was

773
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,280
like, well, I get and
it's like, no, no, sec,

774
00:56:58,519 --> 00:57:00,639
it doesn't. Sexual orientation doesn't matter. Sex matters. He's like,

775
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:05,400
I can't, I can't. I
can't. I can't fire a man for

776
00:57:05,559 --> 00:57:09,000
doing something that a woman would do. Like if it was it was a

777
00:57:09,159 --> 00:57:14,880
very actually weirdly conservative argument, or
at least conservative based on the law that

778
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,800
was already written, right, the
general sentiment wouldn't necessarily be I guess it

779
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,800
was Trump pointy. He was the
first one. But it was just a

780
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,079
really funny situation convative. If you
read the text too, it's like,

781
00:57:25,199 --> 00:57:29,480
well, I'm a fucking judge,
first of all, Like he's he's actually

782
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,480
really good about putting his party behind
him, right, but like it's in

783
00:57:31,559 --> 00:57:36,000
a way he's almost like telling the
lawyer like, I'm winning your argument here

784
00:57:36,039 --> 00:57:39,639
for you, like very much made
the argument. The lawyer. It was

785
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:44,079
I was cracking up when I was
reading because like this happened. I would

786
00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:45,880
argue though the gays. They're on
quite a run right now. I don't

787
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:54,239
know, there's still some stuff out
Pretty recently, Um, within the last

788
00:57:54,280 --> 00:58:00,840
six months, I realized, like
Taylor will have to adopt our own children,

789
00:58:00,239 --> 00:58:06,320
like, which is insane and just
discriminatory. Like we can be married

790
00:58:06,599 --> 00:58:13,400
and like obviously cannot the old fashioned
way conceive a baby together, but we

791
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,400
will conceive of this child together,
like do every step of the way together,

792
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:22,760
and she will have to adopt our
children, even if her name is

793
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:27,679
on the birth certificate. Like that's
that's just fucking discrimination. State or is

794
00:58:27,719 --> 00:58:30,320
that federal state? Okay, So
there are some states where you, yes,

795
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,360
where that is not a situation.
Yes, you get to get a

796
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,360
lot of file like, um,
when you do when you go do you

797
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,199
shop for this? Do you get
to like what do you mean do you

798
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:44,000
get like do you get like stats
from the semen? There's a lot of

799
00:58:44,039 --> 00:58:49,800
different Um. No, sure,
I don't know. That's that's the decision.

800
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,760
She probably feels like a like really
super personal question that like we can

801
00:58:53,159 --> 00:58:58,000
talk about some other time. But
the point general, do you like if

802
00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:00,639
you do it, do you get
like kind of do they kind of give

803
00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:06,639
you a break time a kick?
Actually feel this one sure. Actually just

804
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,960
watched um the most recent season Master
of None. So there's a couple different

805
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,159
ways you can go about this.
You can go through a pre approved donor

806
00:59:13,239 --> 00:59:15,360
at a sperm bank, of course, And but if you want to pick

807
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,760
somebody, if you want to pick
somebody that you think would be a great

808
00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:22,119
say, like you're like I want
someone that was six three, You're like,

809
00:59:22,599 --> 00:59:24,519
Michael Phelps will get me his sperm. No, No, But like

810
00:59:24,599 --> 00:59:27,880
say you want to pick a close
friend that you think is a responsible person,

811
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:32,000
would be good father for your child, it costs more. It costs

812
00:59:32,119 --> 00:59:37,360
more money to pick your own donor
and then someone that's pre approved in a

813
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:38,960
bank, because then they have to
go through the screening process of that,

814
00:59:39,159 --> 00:59:45,119
Like if you're going through a clinic
situation too, which can actually be it's

815
00:59:45,159 --> 00:59:46,840
even more of a diversion tactic.
Really, I think it's like, oh,

816
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,960
well, it's gonna cost a lot
more money this way because we have

817
00:59:50,039 --> 00:59:52,079
to screen the sperm and we have
to do all this and that. It's

818
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:54,559
like, I mean, if you
want to do it through like a clinic

819
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,800
specifically, and you want them to
like help you out, but maybe I'm

820
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,880
totally wrong. You should probably take
this one over. I don't know all

821
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:07,840
of those facts, honestly, I
feel like there I imagine even if that's

822
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,960
true, I imagine the cost on
like the back end is like going to

823
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,400
be different because like I'm pretty sure
you have to like pay per sample for

824
01:00:15,559 --> 01:00:20,800
like through that bake and like right, and if you have someone you know,

825
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:25,280
it's kind of unlimited supply. And
also the someone you know stuff is

826
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,519
like, yeah, you don't have
to go through proper channels with that.

827
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:35,320
No, you don't have to.
But if you're will but um, yes,

828
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,719
well if you're going through IVF,
you do. Yeah, yeah,

829
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,800
yeah, that's another thing too.
Well, there's like, yeah, it

830
01:00:40,159 --> 01:00:44,760
depends anyway, we don't need to
talk about my birth plan. But point

831
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:49,880
being, yes, um, but
she'll has to adopt because motherhood is like

832
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,679
determined in a state by the carrier. So even if we use her egg

833
01:00:54,800 --> 01:01:00,719
and I carry, she will still
have to adopt the child that her egg.

834
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,280
Having watched a woman carry a child, I don't necessarily disagree with how

835
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:10,440
motherhood is determined. Fine. If
that's the case, though, do couples

836
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:14,960
that have a surrogate do they have
to also adopt their Okay, interesting.

837
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:21,159
Wow, that's also really so that
that goes for heterosexual couples. That's insane.

838
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,480
Yeah, that's that's fucking backwards.
I think they do it because they

839
01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:30,519
it makes it seem like less discriminatory, like the but yes, motherhood is

840
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:35,320
determined to through the carrier, and
like thankfully like it's now in the like

841
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,760
and gay people had a fight for
this too, that like both parents could

842
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:43,280
be on this birth certificate. And
I think once gay marriage was legalized,

843
01:01:43,559 --> 01:01:47,000
they retroactively were able to like add
people to the birth certificate. So as

844
01:01:47,079 --> 01:01:50,559
long as Taylor and I are married, both our names will be on the

845
01:01:50,599 --> 01:01:55,840
birth certificate of our children. But
she will still have to adopt the child

846
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:01,199
that she parented and is on the
birth certificate that doesn't prove parent How much

847
01:02:01,239 --> 01:02:05,880
does it cost to file for that? I don't know. Yeah, that's

848
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,079
something that's but it's not for me, right, yes, exactly, right,

849
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:16,960
exactly might actually help with I don't
know, every office in her dress

850
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:22,440
blues, so well please for the
troops, yeah exactly, Yeah, I

851
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:30,440
don't know. But yeah, so
Romans had some fun words for lesbian.

852
01:02:30,639 --> 01:02:34,519
Okay, lesbian wasn't the word yet. Yeah, so the first one is

853
01:02:34,559 --> 01:02:40,159
might sound familiar, tribuss oh like
tripping. Yes, And actually I had

854
01:02:40,199 --> 01:02:44,440
to click over to this to see
to make sure it was the right thing.

855
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,400
And Wikipedia had a great stock photo. God, I don't want to

856
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:53,199
see it. Oh that's fine.
I know. It was just mostly funny.

857
01:02:53,199 --> 01:02:58,360
I mean because they fully illustrated the
butthole on the chick on top shore.

858
01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:02,639
She's having a great I don't know, she's she's enjoying her That's the

859
01:03:02,719 --> 01:03:07,880
image for trips. Tris do people
do? The people know what? I

860
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:14,800
will explain this to you, um
one more time. Tribbing tribbing with bees.

861
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:21,039
It's basically like try humping but what
pretty much to just gin on gin

862
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,440
rubbing and so like people think that
scissoring scissoring is like very specifically that that

863
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:30,800
like corny position where yes, and
like scissoring is a subset of Yes,

864
01:03:31,079 --> 01:03:35,199
scissoring is a type of tribbing.
Yes, And I don't think it is

865
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:39,440
commonly practiced. Tripping I think is
more commonly to practiced, Um, the

866
01:03:39,519 --> 01:03:45,199
way fucking your stepmom on a balcony
is not commonly not commonly practiced right,

867
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:53,000
just like that just yes, So
tripping is just rubbing giants basically, right,

868
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,800
So true, bus was the first
one. Interesting, this is my

869
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,199
favorite, actually, my favorite fact
I learned throughout this whole thing. Okay,

870
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:09,840
another name was fricka Trix. So
tricks obviously you'll you'll know from Domina

871
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,719
Trix. Okay, stuff like that. So that's that's part of the etymology

872
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,159
of that. But it roughly translates
to frick it. Yes, you're right,

873
01:04:15,199 --> 01:04:20,079
friction it roughly translates to one who
rubs okay. So also we're talking

874
01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:23,920
about tripping again essentially, Yes,
yes, okay, it's more of a

875
01:04:24,039 --> 01:04:28,360
fun spin on it though, I
like a t yeah it with me.

876
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,599
Yes, I enjoyed that name the
most by fire. Maybe I kind of

877
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:39,480
being like a little emolo etymology,
like nerd or whatever. But I rabbit.

878
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,800
But yeah, I was about to
say, wait, tricks cereal its

879
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,880
spelled trix, isn't it. Sure? Yeah? Yeah, interesting? Not

880
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:50,480
for kids. Tricks are very much
not for kids. No, not for

881
01:04:50,599 --> 01:04:56,360
kid. So that rabbit pedophile we
did, we just can't the rabbit.

882
01:04:56,559 --> 01:05:01,000
The rabbit is not the pedophile.
It's everyone taking the tricks from them.

883
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:08,960
The rabbits really puritic, The rabbits
really puritanical. He's just like a very

884
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:14,199
like the rabbits, a Mormon actually
sit no normal yea. Tricks aren't for

885
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,119
kids. Yeah, and the kids
are like, no, we want It's

886
01:05:16,159 --> 01:05:19,559
like you're not ready. Yeah,
give it a couple of years learned about

887
01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:26,199
yourself, then you can see this
cereal not such a silly rabbit, very

888
01:05:26,239 --> 01:05:28,960
developed. Right. We opened a
lot of eyes on this podcast. The

889
01:05:29,079 --> 01:05:34,719
last one, which also cracknut was
virago, which translates roughly to a woman

890
01:05:35,039 --> 01:05:43,840
who demonstrates exemplary and heroic qualities.
The word comes from the Latin basically the

891
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:50,119
same thing meaning vigorous, and veer
means man or man like yeah, if

892
01:05:50,159 --> 01:05:54,719
you're a man, you're heroic of
course. Uh. And ago is is

893
01:05:54,880 --> 01:06:00,280
essentially the generization of the word okay, ended in all yeah, yeah,

894
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,199
oh my god, my little varrago. Yeah exactly, she's a little raga.

895
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,360
You should just start calling her that
and not explain it. Maybe I

896
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,719
will, Maybe I just will put
it in your vows. I just want

897
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,559
to have as big of an imprint
on your wedding as possible, all right,

898
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,360
be like, hey Varago, yes, Veronica and varrago, I made

899
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:23,480
him more about me that, yes, exactly. And then there was one

900
01:06:23,519 --> 01:06:28,519
other thing called back to an old
episode or Pompei graffiti episode. There was

901
01:06:28,719 --> 01:06:36,800
one piece of graffiti in POMPEII where
they found um uh typically like there's all

902
01:06:38,039 --> 01:06:42,199
I don't know if we talked about
this graffiti and Pompeii was other um reviews

903
01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:45,800
of like brothels or just random thought. It was like Twitter essentially. It

904
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:50,880
sounds like bathroom stong, like for
a good time city. All of Rome

905
01:06:51,079 --> 01:06:55,519
was like that, not just Pompei, but any city. The bathroom was

906
01:06:55,599 --> 01:06:59,800
essentially or another bathroom. The graffiti
was essentially Twitter, okay, and he

907
01:07:00,159 --> 01:07:03,119
random thought you had was drawn up
on it. You gotta think too.

908
01:07:03,199 --> 01:07:06,000
Everyone's pissing on walls half of the
time anyway, so it's kind of when

909
01:07:06,039 --> 01:07:09,920
they are using the best. Yeah, alright. So there was one that

910
01:07:10,079 --> 01:07:13,199
they found that they believe was a
woman to a woman love. They found

911
01:07:13,239 --> 01:07:15,639
lots like male to female or vice
versa. Yeah, but they found one

912
01:07:15,679 --> 01:07:19,360
that they believe was woman a woman
And this was so essentially like a love

913
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:28,360
tweet. But Roman graffiti. I
wish I could hold sorry, I wish

914
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,840
I could hold to my neck and
embrace the little arms and bear kisses on

915
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:36,840
the tender lips. Go on,
doll and trust your joys to the winds.

916
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:43,199
Believe me, light is the nature
of men. But they believe that

917
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,239
was a girl to girl love letter. Even the girl to girl love letter

918
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,360
has the word man in it.
I think that means I think men translates

919
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:55,320
to humans. Yeah, that at
that point humankind. Can I just say,

920
01:07:55,719 --> 01:07:59,559
I really think that we like got
it backwards and it should have been

921
01:08:00,079 --> 01:08:03,599
like men meant human and human was
a man and woman was a woman.

922
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:09,679
You know, like sorry, it
makes sense in my head, like the

923
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:15,440
general word could be like men and
then like we specify human like right for

924
01:08:15,559 --> 01:08:18,520
a man like this kind of man, woman, this kind of like it

925
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:24,600
is what it makes sense. It
makes more sense you just call it human

926
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,399
kind instead of man kind. Yeah, I think if you keep it,

927
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:31,600
But I know mine's right. I
mean human. I mean I just get

928
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,439
a slight, a slight like Latin
X vibe from that. I mean,

929
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:40,319
you know, I'm not gonna like
rewrite the English language. It's just what

930
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,640
I think like should have happened.
I think in a butterfly effect somewhere it

931
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,159
is the way I've just kind you
want to write that's probably the same situation

932
01:08:46,239 --> 01:08:50,079
that's going on with lesbian history here, where they're like yeah, guys,

933
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:59,279
yeah, dudes, yeah, anyway, that is it for the ancient times.

934
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:00,920
We have a little bit of Middle
Ages to go on though, Hilly

935
01:09:02,119 --> 01:09:04,880
oh oh yeah, I sho tripping. Actually it's probably terrible. Um,

936
01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:11,520
typically lesbianism was way less of a
concern in the Middle so kind I was

937
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:17,640
thinking considering like medieval picture a medieval
right now, like we're talking like these

938
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:28,279
like pub songs and like like knights
and the Crusades. I'm not that historical

939
01:09:28,399 --> 01:09:32,079
because I feel like also Victorian maybe
is what Victorian's not even close later Victorians

940
01:09:32,119 --> 01:09:36,439
way later. Yeah, it's basically
modern times Victorians like eighteen hundred. The

941
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:42,119
Victorian era ended in the twentieth century. Okay, Middle Ages bring out.

942
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:49,600
I would think like would be like
seven hundred to about fourteen hundred before the

943
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:55,079
Enlightenment, right before the Renaissance in
line. Okay, I'm okay, I

944
01:09:56,399 --> 01:10:01,119
feel like I have a picture medieval
is like basically I'm everyone's employed, everyone's

945
01:10:01,159 --> 01:10:04,920
poor, everyone's like in like some
random that's a bit of an anachronism.

946
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:10,199
It's not actually quite that way at
all, but like yeah, yeah,

947
01:10:10,199 --> 01:10:13,560
okay, what media purchase? Yes
exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah,

948
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,840
So it wasn't that big concerned because
most people were like, dude, why

949
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,119
would chicks want to get with each
other? Like, all our penises are

950
01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:24,239
rad, they don't need anything else, checks out, checks out for logic.

951
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,800
Yeah, like, of course we'd
want to fuck each other because our

952
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,800
penises are rad. That's all anyone
wants, because we've got rad dicks.

953
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,000
But like, why would chicks need
anything? Remember all the girls who like

954
01:10:33,239 --> 01:10:40,119
only can finish from like oral sex
and like not at all from penetration.

955
01:10:40,279 --> 01:10:43,239
Yeah, it's just like remember that, isn't that like a really high percent

956
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:48,960
high. It's like it's like I
feel like it's it's like most Yeah yeah,

957
01:10:49,079 --> 01:10:54,000
And I don't want to I don't
want to belittle your gender or anything

958
01:10:54,119 --> 01:11:00,760
like that, but biologically your orgasm
doesn't really matter. Sure, it doesn't

959
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:05,279
serve us, it doesn't serve a
purpose, but like neither does yours most

960
01:11:05,359 --> 01:11:09,640
of the time. Well, you're
served a part, you're served a purpose

961
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,800
for three months of your life while
you're trying to get pregnant. When I'm

962
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,640
tossing it into a cave, also, it doesn't usually matter either, So

963
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:21,079
what you call your toilet. Yeah, no, which is unfortunate actually though,

964
01:11:21,159 --> 01:11:26,680
because you would think there would be
some like gain to like I don't

965
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,479
know, you would be more prone
to getting pregnant if you were orgasming or

966
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:36,479
something. Yeah, I think that
you might. I would conversely though too,

967
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,960
maybe if you know the guy save
we go take it back a little

968
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,880
bit. The guy is known for
man, he makes everyone get off.

969
01:11:44,039 --> 01:11:51,680
He's probably gonna biologically spread a seed
more to travel great point, but especially

970
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:58,399
in the great community. And that's
that's very good, dent. We're just

971
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,479
sir on the board. In medieval
Europe, just to just to continue this

972
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:06,119
theme, lesbian sex that didn't use
a dildo or some other kind of penetraty

973
01:12:06,199 --> 01:12:11,760
thing like that's still not considered full
sex, which is a pretty difficul pretty

974
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,520
decent life act if you don't want
to get burned at the steak sure,

975
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:15,720
like no, no, no,
we just rubbed on each other. It's

976
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:20,079
fine, it's fine. Who us
Yeah what no, we just we just

977
01:12:20,159 --> 01:12:26,119
like had more orgasms than everyone in
the land. Like you'd have to keep

978
01:12:26,159 --> 01:12:31,520
that um. One of the funniest
parts though about people not caring about lesbianism

979
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,239
as much, or like women hung
out with women as much as as men

980
01:12:34,359 --> 01:12:40,880
hung out with men. Is that
the church even had a lesser punishment for

981
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:45,840
women who well, and I really
only learned it from gentleman Jack. I

982
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,720
don't know if you've heard of this
show that's on maybe Hulu. I don't

983
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:53,720
remember um, but I feel like
it was maybe like a more of like

984
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,560
a Victorian. It was like when
people are like passion Victorian. Yes,

985
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,119
it reminds me just like slopping in
the mud. Yeah, right, so

986
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,560
I think it's like kind of Victorian
or I don't know if there's others similar

987
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:11,560
to Victoria, right, but she
is like basically convincing gentleman Jack is.

988
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,880
I don't remember her name. She's
a real person though, and like a

989
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,760
big time lesbian who like landowner,
like she's wealthy or whatever, and she

990
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:24,560
like kind of convinces this like older
and I have that in quotes because she's

991
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:29,000
probably like what twenty three or something
like woman to be like, well,

992
01:13:29,079 --> 01:13:30,880
you haven't met anybody yet, and
like we're kind of in love, right,

993
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,079
and like it's fine, like you
could just like live with me,

994
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:38,239
and like they like did like a
fake marriage, like ceremony whatever. But

995
01:13:38,399 --> 01:13:42,479
like as she's convincing her, like
don't trust me, it's fine, she's

996
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:47,359
like it's not the same as two
men together trust like it is, it's

997
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:51,880
not the Bible doesn't condemn it,
Like there's no punishment for it. People

998
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:57,520
show up. There's a certain subset
that might be like whoa hold on,

999
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,760
it's a little hot. I don't
and you know who was also you know

1000
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:06,399
who's also working the church and like
pretty and everything just kind of makeing a

1001
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:13,279
little side, a little side money
the brothels so you had liked and the

1002
01:14:13,359 --> 01:14:17,239
Madam's probably had like the most control
of everybody, like it, like that

1003
01:14:17,319 --> 01:14:20,079
was probably the best job to have
as a female. And crazy to me

1004
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:27,720
how much we like condemn sex as
a society and like this purity culture when

1005
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,960
it's like that is the reason for
all of the issues, Like sex is

1006
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:33,720
like the most important thing. It
is so important, like we aside from

1007
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:38,079
poverty, yes, I would say, okay, yeah, it would go

1008
01:14:38,199 --> 01:14:43,079
poverty and sexual frustration one two yeah. Yeah. Imagine if everybody was a

1009
01:14:43,199 --> 01:14:46,880
sexual linked in a certain way,
because there's one nobody wants to fuck someone

1010
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:51,479
who rides the bus. Where would
society be if everyone was a sexual?

1011
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:58,000
Not very far? Oh a sexual? It would be really Yeah, I

1012
01:14:58,039 --> 01:15:00,600
guess I have to know it would
be and us so somebody would save us.

1013
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,119
Yeah, I don't think so.
You think Panis are just like up

1014
01:15:04,119 --> 01:15:10,279
to each other steak, there's no
orangutans. Like, my god, we

1015
01:15:10,359 --> 01:15:14,760
have to make these fu one of
the aliens in Interact. Finally. Uh,

1016
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:16,239
well, I you know, it's
not surprising to me though, to

1017
01:15:16,319 --> 01:15:20,640
hear about like the puritanical approach,
especially in this country, Like we are

1018
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,840
regardless of what we want to like
feel about ourselves, we were based in

1019
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:30,800
a lot of puritanical shit. You
know, though, Here's what I take

1020
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,640
up. What I get a little
not annoyed or anything about, but like

1021
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:39,479
what I take issue with is that, Yeah, shoot on the Puritans all

1022
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:43,119
you want, and you should,
but like that really lets Europe off the

1023
01:15:43,199 --> 01:15:47,159
hook, Oh totally, because they
weren't. They weren't any better fucking pan

1024
01:15:47,279 --> 01:15:53,319
sexual orgy that the Puritans were fleeing. I mean, what's the guy was

1025
01:15:53,399 --> 01:15:59,560
touring Yeah, the fiftiest. Yeah, sure of course Europe was not.

1026
01:16:00,079 --> 01:16:02,840
So I mean during this time,
I mean, it really to me and

1027
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,680
you might know more. I might
be wrong, but it seems like the

1028
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:13,560
rise of Christianity as the rise of
this because obviously you're like Rome and Greece

1029
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,880
and Egypt. I feel like they
were fucking more. Yeah, so from

1030
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,359
what I read now, they were
well, like I said, like what

1031
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:26,199
I read, Egypt and Greece and
Rome weren't into it, like they didn't

1032
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:30,079
want women to do it, and
they were definitely punishments like unofficial at least

1033
01:16:30,159 --> 01:16:34,439
we're fucking more. Yes, for
people were fucking more. And I mean

1034
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:39,399
the Catholic Church of the Vatican,
most popes had kids. Yeah. Really,

1035
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,720
Oh I didn't know that, man, I can't. I can't really

1036
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:46,720
comment on the fuck rates in general. What I can tell you though,

1037
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:53,319
is is that even in by the
time the Christianity had really taken hold of

1038
01:16:53,399 --> 01:16:59,880
Europe, there's only twelve confirmed cases
through the Middle Ages. We're talking centuries

1039
01:17:00,079 --> 01:17:05,399
upon centuries yea of women who were
uh there was more for men, but

1040
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:11,039
for women who were convicted of being
a lesbian. Essentially, Yeah, twelve

1041
01:17:11,119 --> 01:17:15,079
across we're talking about. And my
thought is they're like women have less power.

1042
01:17:15,239 --> 01:17:18,079
There's like really no point it just
it feels like right in my mind,

1043
01:17:18,159 --> 01:17:21,039
is handled that at home? Yes, and like there's just it's like

1044
01:17:21,039 --> 01:17:25,399
a lot of paperwork, like and
for what reason? For what payoff?

1045
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,239
Like she doesn't hold any power,
like who cares? Like who's trying to

1046
01:17:28,279 --> 01:17:32,880
get her? There's certainly oppressed,
but yeah, right, but there's no

1047
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,079
reason to like jail her, right, like who cares? But I really

1048
01:17:36,159 --> 01:17:42,760
don't know, it's really it really
would be some damage, okay, jonav

1049
01:17:43,159 --> 01:17:46,439
big time less, yeah, right, big time for sure. I don't

1050
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,239
know. Yeah, I think she's
a less for god, I don't know

1051
01:17:49,399 --> 01:17:54,159
that she she strikes me as as
I have heard things that where she like

1052
01:17:54,399 --> 01:18:00,760
maybe was trans and then so I
think, my right, there's a lot

1053
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,840
of different things, which I understand
because people like it's nice for me,

1054
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:11,159
like I can look back and be
like Julius Caesar or like nothing, but

1055
01:18:11,279 --> 01:18:15,439
I have a long history, like
transexual people are, they don't, and

1056
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:20,000
so they have to project. But
historians, even like gay histories, do

1057
01:18:20,199 --> 01:18:25,359
caution against like I mean, you
can take inspiration from them, but it's

1058
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,439
so yes, and it's hard to
saying it. And here's the thing,

1059
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,760
the same thing, like you can't
do it today. You cannot tell someone

1060
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,600
what they are right, and we
can't. We can't tell someone else what

1061
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:44,319
somebody was like, we don't know
my wrong? Could my parents pretty manly

1062
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:50,399
fucking wars on the front line?
I get less vibes from her. Sure

1063
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:54,560
that's just me. I mean,
what do I know? I don't.

1064
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:59,079
I don't think I don't. I
think it's pretty easy to figure out they're

1065
01:18:59,119 --> 01:19:01,399
there. They're definitely a difference between
like you being like, yes, the

1066
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:08,079
vibes I get and I'm going to
interpret that way versus Veronica's gaydar. It's

1067
01:19:08,119 --> 01:19:15,079
on point. She called Kylie Jenner
kend the same person. I don't appreciate

1068
01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:18,079
your race. Kendall has still not
come out, but she does a lot

1069
01:19:18,159 --> 01:19:23,079
of queer bating that that Kendle jenn
Remember when she came out as having acne,

1070
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,560
Did you guys see this huge huge
She like made a net like I

1071
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,319
have an announcement. There's something I've
been hiding from you guys, And then

1072
01:19:30,399 --> 01:19:35,399
she was like, accutane is this
before or after the pepsi commercial? After?

1073
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:40,840
Okay, I still think she's I
think she like, here's the thing

1074
01:19:41,039 --> 01:19:46,479
everybody who's like best friends with Karadelavian
for six months is like probably fucking fucked

1075
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:51,439
Elon Musk. Sure, but she's
also like fucked every woman in all.

1076
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:55,359
I want to call that a straight
move. I don't know what gender Elon

1077
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,520
Musk is, but it's probably like
robots. I actually was super straight,

1078
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,560
because you you gotta really want a
dick to fucking dick with that face on

1079
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,840
it. He's got a lot of
money attached too, but fuck it,

1080
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:12,840
well, that's true, is by
But I feel like she is more gay

1081
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,239
than straight. Yeah, you know, I would say, yeah, but

1082
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:19,600
Elon must healthy money. Was an
ugly, very fun He didn't have any

1083
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:24,279
hair. He wait, he has
plugs for sure, as plugs, dude,

1084
01:20:24,279 --> 01:20:26,960
I have no idea. I'm glad
I don't know that much about him,

1085
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,199
honestly, like I do before and
after, I don't need to.

1086
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,720
Yeah, I'll just think he was
a programmer. I'm gonna move on a

1087
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,960
little bit. By the way,
so we talked about we talked about lesbian

1088
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:40,199
isn't being less punished. There was
one, oh, one thing that was

1089
01:20:40,279 --> 01:20:44,039
more punished though, and that was
none on none oh. I could see

1090
01:20:44,039 --> 01:20:46,600
you know what, that's actually fair. You agree not to find you're breaking

1091
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,560
a vow you are cheating on a
man, You're cheating on God. You're

1092
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:53,840
cheating on God. That and like
that was on you. You just shouldn't

1093
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:59,680
have said like that. You're still
standing God. I do not standing with

1094
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:03,399
you, not stand God, but
I stand authenticity. And you said,

1095
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,760
like, I'm fine, I don't
need to fuck anyone. Just say I

1096
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:11,560
don't like dudes. Just admit it
as admit it. Talk about one of

1097
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:15,600
the most abusive people in history,
God, God, I mean that kind

1098
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:19,079
of that kind of track record.
You're gonna you're gonna step out on that

1099
01:21:19,199 --> 01:21:23,520
man, Old Testament, that body
count. I do want to reminder you

1100
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:30,000
Old Testament God killed like thirty kids
with a bear because he noted that at

1101
01:21:30,039 --> 01:21:34,399
one point in the New Testament,
Jesus a tree wouldn't give him fruit,

1102
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:39,960
and so he killed the tree.
No would they touched Like grim Raper was

1103
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,479
like fuck this tree. But yeah, the bear situation. But that actually

1104
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,560
makes me like Jesus more. But
actually too. God creates every single human

1105
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:50,119
being and then they die, so
he's he's killed everyone. We go to

1106
01:21:50,199 --> 01:21:55,920
heaven. No, no, not
all, not until you, but we

1107
01:21:56,439 --> 01:22:01,199
got well, we invented God,
so fuck you, all right, I

1108
01:22:01,399 --> 01:22:05,720
just don't really, I do not
stand God. Like from everything I hear

1109
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:11,399
like he's a bad guy. He's
controlling, he's jealous, like he's murderous,

1110
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:15,039
like he's not my guy. Don't
doubt be fair, biblical God,

1111
01:22:15,359 --> 01:22:18,680
it is not my guy. Which
one though, yawn, I think is

1112
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:24,000
actually el and then it turned into
l is Yeahwah's dad. Oh okay,

1113
01:22:24,199 --> 01:22:27,359
Yeah, it's really weird that,
like no one knows we pulled yeah away

1114
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:32,119
from like a very The reason why
the first rule, the first commandment is

1115
01:22:32,199 --> 01:22:34,640
I'm the Lord by God, you
shall have no other gods beside me is

1116
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:39,920
because Yahweh was jealous that people were
praying to his brothers. Comes before murder,

1117
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:44,600
Yeah, it's before murder, everything, before anything. He's jealous.

1118
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,479
He said, don't question me,
don't have faith in If there was no

1119
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,239
one else, you wouldn't have to
say, don't believe in anyone else.

1120
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:57,840
He stepped out, He's not.
From everything I hear, he doesn't telling

1121
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,680
a good guy. But that's just
me. Uh. But yeah, women

1122
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:05,680
got three years of penance. Girls
and widows were actually judged less harshly because

1123
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:10,079
the church leaders at least recognize that, like they didn't have like sex readily

1124
01:23:10,119 --> 01:23:13,760
available. Okay, so it was
like, well they need some times,

1125
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,560
you know, a little whippen like
everyone gotta eat. Um. This was

1126
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:21,159
all from Theodooras Tarsus, by the
way, who was old Teddy Yeah yeah,

1127
01:23:21,239 --> 01:23:26,159
yeah, yeah. But there are
records about a dozen medieval women,

1128
01:23:26,199 --> 01:23:29,640
like I said, who were involved
in lesbian sex, which is not good.

1129
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,359
Uh that there were records of them
only okay because if there's records of

1130
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:38,439
them, yeah, they come from
the courts, sure, and they were

1131
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:42,560
all either in prisoned or executed.
Yeah, so medievals that's the only execution.

1132
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:49,479
Then they went to prison. It's
basically like prison, not not America's

1133
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:53,319
prisons. What was it like then, Just like you're in a dungeon or

1134
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:56,520
you're in a cage, and if
you're having sex, it's non consentially with

1135
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:03,000
probably some guy that looks like yeah
yeah, guttural um. You know.

1136
01:24:03,119 --> 01:24:06,640
It's like that in Europe, though
there was This isn't This is more interesting

1137
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:13,479
to me. This is more actually
like the real lesbianism being like a real

1138
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,199
I don't know that, but it's
a girl and girl. It's it's women

1139
01:24:15,359 --> 01:24:20,279
hooking up with each other women.
Yeah, that's the term girl and girl

1140
01:24:20,359 --> 01:24:24,199
appreciate that. I'm a little rash
water deep right now, so I don't

1141
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,520
not great with the terms. Go
for it. But there were two medical

1142
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:31,640
situations linked to um woman women hung
out with women. One was basically that

1143
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:38,600
a woman started going bananas because she
wasn't getting laid as much because she didn't

1144
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:43,000
have a husband, and so her
seed was built up inside of her.

1145
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:47,880
And if you remember from our our
birth control episode, this is where a

1146
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:53,520
midwife would step in, okay,
because midwives were kind of catch all doctors

1147
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:59,159
for women. A midwife would come
in and place this is a direct quote

1148
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:02,960
hot on the woman and then bring
her to orgasm. I love that for

1149
01:25:03,079 --> 01:25:05,920
her. Yeah, so I think
they maybe put like a couple of heating

1150
01:25:06,039 --> 01:25:10,439
stones. She doesn't count as lesbianism, right, No, that was a

1151
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:17,680
medical tree. That's just a friend
helping another friend out. Yeah. Well,

1152
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,199
I mean, hey, buddy,
we mentioned that in the birth control

1153
01:25:20,199 --> 01:25:25,319
episode. I wasn't here, but
like, hysteria literally comes from like his

1154
01:25:27,239 --> 01:25:30,199
yeah right, yeah, yes,
so like that's the really, Oh we're

1155
01:25:30,239 --> 01:25:33,319
treating hysteria. This is medicine and
it's literally like hey, fine, your

1156
01:25:33,399 --> 01:25:38,279
husband's won't make you come. I'll
do it. Yeah, we got doctor.

1157
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:43,239
Yeah, it's like it can't be
my dick. She's crazy. This

1158
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:47,880
reminds me of I don't know if
you know about like pelvic florida's function at

1159
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:51,640
all, but what pelvic florida's function. It's like a thing that is like

1160
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:57,479
really underdiagnosed and like women today and
I think like a lot of times makes

1161
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:01,359
orgasm difficult or it can like if
your pelvic floor is like too tight or

1162
01:26:01,399 --> 01:26:06,760
too loose. It generally can be
too loose if um, like after childbirths,

1163
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:13,840
and like that's the reason like people
have leaky peas or whatever like um,

1164
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,800
but it could be too tight.
Actually, if you do key goals

1165
01:26:17,199 --> 01:26:20,279
and you have not been told by
a doctor that you should do key goals,

1166
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,439
they are bad for you, Like
it will make your shit too tight.

1167
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:30,960
It is like dan gets too swollen, just like that um. Anyway,

1168
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:34,319
So pelvic floors function, like you
can go to like a specialists and

1169
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:38,920
they pretty much like go in with
their fingers and like tap on the inside

1170
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:42,119
of you to like loosen up your
muscles. This is this fucking safe thing

1171
01:26:42,359 --> 01:26:48,720
still happening, but probably more medically
sound. Honestly, than yeah. Actually,

1172
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:54,920
and they still they prescribe like a
delto for you to like take home,

1173
01:26:55,720 --> 01:27:00,920
and I think they call them wands
and like child the medical term is

1174
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:04,680
wand you think that's what it is
right now, I don't know that wand

1175
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:09,560
right what Hitachi? You don't know
what that is? Now? What are

1176
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,119
you putting it? Read up,
bro, I got my wand from you

1177
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,600
it's Harry Potter World. So I
feel like katachi is like the most commonly

1178
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,439
you know, like whenever you're like, oh, it's a shoulder massager,

1179
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:26,479
but oh, hitachi, it's a
brandy. No. I don't think they're

1180
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:30,520
quiet as large as all that.
But there is something, yes that if

1181
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,840
your pelvic floor is too tight because
you did too many key goals because the

1182
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:36,960
patriarchy told you too uh, you
have to do that to like release those

1183
01:27:38,039 --> 01:27:42,800
muscles. It really is not really
mostly from keygals like the Patriarchy newsletter,

1184
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,119
by the way, where like there's
no such things too tight. Well it's

1185
01:27:45,159 --> 01:27:48,720
so problematic, but it really is. It's like you carry tend the way

1186
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,199
you can carry attention in your back, you can carry it in your a

1187
01:27:51,239 --> 01:27:56,680
pelvic floor also, and like those
muscles can't relax fully believe that next total

1188
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,880
sense. They're muscles. Yeah,
exactly, exactly, So some people carry

1189
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,800
their attention there and shoulders exactly,
and it makes a lot of things that

1190
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:11,600
it makes orgasm deffical, like lubrications. Yeah, um, but similar you

1191
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,720
have the s the doctor and somebody
just goes in there and like just does

1192
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,399
the ship. Yeah yeah yeah man, it's it's still happening, yeah,

1193
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,000
still to this day, to this
day. What is it? Shit,

1194
01:28:21,079 --> 01:28:27,800
don't change, don't change? Pussy? Do you hate that? My wife

1195
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,039
hates that word too. I hate
it colloquially. It just seems like it

1196
01:28:30,079 --> 01:28:34,279
should only be insects, it should
only be in sex. I actually prefer

1197
01:28:34,359 --> 01:28:38,560
it louds. Yeah, I prefer
out of sex. But don't be such

1198
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,720
a pussy. And I know that's
obviously so insects. You're just like,

1199
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:47,159
let me see your cunt. Yeah, that's like, pussy's gross in sex.

1200
01:28:47,239 --> 01:28:49,920
I say, cunt. I don't
think it's gross in sex, but

1201
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:54,000
I just like it's more effective outside. It's like to me, I don't

1202
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:58,359
know, I prefer a womb broom, okay, gross womb room, womb

1203
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:02,000
broom. I'm all ham wallet,
Okay, I hate all of these Vagina

1204
01:29:02,079 --> 01:29:06,920
words. I do enjoy twat.
I think it's I think it's I.

1205
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:12,239
We should bring twat into the repertoire
a little more, like I always mean

1206
01:29:12,319 --> 01:29:15,800
to call people a twat and I
forget, and it's very specific and useful.

1207
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:20,359
It's it's so good, it really
packs a punch. It's twas such

1208
01:29:20,359 --> 01:29:28,439
a good yea an annoying yeah,
stupid person. Yeah, it's so perfect,

1209
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:30,640
it's so illustrative. I love it. I love it. It's just

1210
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:34,279
non sequitur. But adult is something
I think we should also bring pick.

1211
01:29:36,159 --> 01:29:44,039
Yeah, what is it just means
very stupid adults and pratt. I don't

1212
01:29:44,039 --> 01:29:48,720
know. I don't know. Fucking
adult, fucking adult. None of them

1213
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:53,000
are TI, I'll hit out,
none of them are. So we have

1214
01:29:53,239 --> 01:29:59,880
one more little thing to get through. Okay, there is bozo. Hi,

1215
01:30:00,119 --> 01:30:02,840
I think boads, don't. I
think the people that use bozo run

1216
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:08,840
bozo. No calling somebody at Bozo's
I would be way more offended if somebody

1217
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:15,319
I love using like silly words for
this, like saying something is um Christina

1218
01:30:15,359 --> 01:30:16,800
actually says that. She's like,
oh, it was all caddie wampus.

1219
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:21,119
So I'm like your right. It
was Caddie Wampus, wasn't it. Like

1220
01:30:21,319 --> 01:30:26,520
I love using words like this,
so sign me up, co sign on

1221
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:31,159
Bozoo Buffoon. Buffoon's good sixteenth century
name for a black pirate. According to

1222
01:30:31,239 --> 01:30:35,439
thirty Rock, probably not accurate.
I can't imagine that. Yeah, don't

1223
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:40,279
don't send that out on your history
podcast. That's fact. Uh So there

1224
01:30:40,399 --> 01:30:44,279
was obviously European Middle I just felt
that there was also the air world had

1225
01:30:44,319 --> 01:30:54,640
some thoughts on lesbians the air I
sure they have some very Arab a really

1226
01:30:54,960 --> 01:31:02,039
in this the like hold on the
pioneer in lesbians. Probably this is weird

1227
01:31:02,079 --> 01:31:06,479
problem from twenty twenty. Huh okay, so we're going a little bit modern

1228
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:11,279
history here in the Arab world.
Well, I don't know how much has

1229
01:31:11,359 --> 01:31:15,880
changed, but lesbians in the Air
World Middle Ages interesting thoughts. And it's

1230
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:19,119
funny because Arabs Arabs at the time. By the way, I didn't include

1231
01:31:19,119 --> 01:31:23,319
the Chinese in this because I looked, I did research on it and there

1232
01:31:23,399 --> 01:31:28,880
was nothing, really nothing, because
you're a coward, John Cena, right,

1233
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:35,000
you don't. And it's just this
is how like subdued lesbian is basic

1234
01:31:35,119 --> 01:31:41,199
woman and woman history. Yet because
there's also like woman history as subdued,

1235
01:31:41,399 --> 01:31:45,760
right, Like, there's not like
there's much more history on men in general

1236
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:49,079
than women unless a woman is a
head of state or did something otherwise.

1237
01:31:49,159 --> 01:31:53,399
I pressed, like wildly impressed,
right, like you know you've got like

1238
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:57,520
Elizabeth the first Sure, yeah,
there are some famous ones in there,

1239
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:02,399
but like us. Yeah, so
the Arabs at this time, the Middle

1240
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:06,119
Ages were essentially the best at Madison
and everything, like they were it.

1241
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:10,600
They were one of the reasons they
were more effective a lot of times during

1242
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:14,960
the Crusades, where they were better
at dealing with battlefield injuries and stuff like,

1243
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:16,880
I mean, they were scientifically better. I want to say, actually,

1244
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:21,439
like someone else talked about this,
but the two worst events in human

1245
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:27,159
history in terms of like nuking knowledge
where the burning of the library Alexandria,

1246
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,359
which is actually kind of debated and
I don't think that's necessarily true, but

1247
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:33,600
then the sack of Baghdad, the
sack of bad where the streets ran red

1248
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:40,560
with blood. Yeah, yeah,
yes, and this affected like our knowledge

1249
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:46,359
because of like some kind of Yes, the bag Dad is like one of

1250
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:50,680
the oldest like institutions in the world
people, So it's it's always a funny

1251
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:54,560
thing. I'm not gonna get to
into this, but whatever people talk about,

1252
01:32:54,640 --> 01:33:00,640
like, you know, like European
colonialism or whatever being destructive, no

1253
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:04,960
one holds a candle to Asian I
guess colonial. I mean the Mongols were

1254
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:11,920
fucking wild. Yeah, that was
about three hundred years before. I mean

1255
01:33:12,119 --> 01:33:15,800
they think that the Mongolian invasion of
well, the sacking of Bagdad importu.

1256
01:33:15,079 --> 01:33:17,840
It was the equivalent of a nuclear
bomb being dropped on back right, ye

1257
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:24,279
say nuclear, yeah, pucular nuclear. Clear, come on, you're you're

1258
01:33:24,279 --> 01:33:30,600
a nuclear guy. I can't nuclear
nuclear anyway. Clear. Yeah, it's

1259
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:38,920
set like their development in science and
research back like fucking they never recovered from

1260
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,640
it, railed, that city,
never recovered from it. So yeah,

1261
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:46,640
Arabs believed that lesbianism was caused by
heat generated in a woman's labia, which

1262
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:54,199
could be alleviated by friction against another
woman's uh genitalia, and so like.

1263
01:33:54,600 --> 01:34:00,640
Essentially, there was a Muslim philosophers. Yeah, one needs one. There's

1264
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,039
a Muslim philosopher named al Kindy.
He has missing thoughts on this. He

1265
01:34:03,359 --> 01:34:06,800
came up with the hot labia theory, and he said the hot labia needed

1266
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:11,760
to be cooled with cold friction,
which I guess included another vagina. Sure

1267
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,920
as it does. The cold.
I don't know, rob, have he

1268
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,479
touched one? Are they cold?
Didn't feel didn't usually feel cold? Well

1269
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:23,079
mine do, but like I feel
like others I heard, yeah my girls.

1270
01:34:24,079 --> 01:34:29,319
Um. But al Kindy also said
when a woman ejaculates during lesbian sex,

1271
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:35,039
the ejaculate is cold. Makes I
don't know. I don't have the

1272
01:34:35,119 --> 01:34:41,520
answer. What I feel like what
happened was like a chick squirted. I've

1273
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:43,880
not squirted. I feel like what
happened as a chick squirted. And he

1274
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,479
ran into the room like two minutes
later. So it's freezy, right.

1275
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,960
I was like, well, that's
pretty cold. It's like me like an

1276
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:53,720
hour old cup of coffee and like, for sure not cold. But he

1277
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:57,000
is cold. I don't know if
it's on your if it's on your sheets,

1278
01:34:57,039 --> 01:35:00,000
and you know I have not,
I do not. So he said

1279
01:35:00,319 --> 01:35:04,199
that women female ejaculate is cold,
while male ejacculte is always hot, because

1280
01:35:04,199 --> 01:35:10,279
he was testing the jizz right away, like right right, sure it would

1281
01:35:10,319 --> 01:35:13,720
be a hot coming from inside of
a body. You would think they would

1282
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:17,439
both be about ninety eight degree or
whatever. The fuck something is temperatured when

1283
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:21,119
it yeah, the same temperature as
blood and breast milk, and it's probably

1284
01:35:21,159 --> 01:35:28,479
all the same. Yeah about that
about um? And then the last thing.

1285
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:34,000
The last thing was there was another
that was underappreciated. I've only been

1286
01:35:34,039 --> 01:35:36,840
doing it all podcast, Scott,
Damn, I'm walking off, get out

1287
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:43,960
of here. I acknowledged that Dan
now Dan quits. He likes to just

1288
01:35:44,199 --> 01:35:47,680
by Dan. Dan has walked away
for your listeners. It's sorry he does

1289
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:51,800
that sometimes it's really our guest.
M. The other theory was this is

1290
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:57,079
from al Kindy. It's not from
al Kindy's from another Christian Arab actually named

1291
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:02,279
Masso Wea. I busher that.
I'm sorry. Lesbianism results from when a

1292
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:10,239
nursing woman eats celery uh rocket whatever
that meant. Back at that point,

1293
01:36:10,319 --> 01:36:15,800
I assume it's not a rocket rocket
a rocket ship probably melantoe melo. I

1294
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:19,359
want to say rockets like a rugula, and then bitter flowers of a bitter

1295
01:36:19,399 --> 01:36:24,560
orange tree. I'll do it when
she eats these plants and suckle suckles her

1296
01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:28,760
child she gets kind of horny.
Yeah, that'll do it every time,

1297
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:32,560
for chicks only, for checks only. Yeah, is that that does do

1298
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:36,800
it for you? Yeah? Usually? Actually I'm gonna actually I'm gonna take

1299
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:42,479
all that when I get home.
Ye, like Taylor. Taylor has been

1300
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:45,680
getting home. Her work schedule right
now is twelve to nine, so it'll

1301
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:48,840
be about time for me to eat
my um what was it orange? And

1302
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:54,399
what you do take? Just do
a line of powdered orange leaves. Okay,

1303
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:57,159
yeah, and then just flood the
apartment. I will do it,

1304
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:00,239
you know what. I'll report back
next time. And for a good measure,

1305
01:37:00,359 --> 01:37:04,880
rocket is a rugula? Oh yeah, rugela an orange? Is that

1306
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:08,000
all I need? Do? I
need all of the ingredients, which just

1307
01:37:10,279 --> 01:37:14,319
celery? Dude. That explains whenever
I get wings. Uh, my wife

1308
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:15,840
eat the celery and then not want
to fuck me while I'm covered in wing

1309
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:19,840
sauce. She wants to me,
Yeah exactly, I knew it. I

1310
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:24,279
knew it wasn't my fault. It's
not your fault. It's not my fault.

1311
01:37:24,399 --> 01:37:27,239
She's not like, oh your gross
after wings, She's like, I

1312
01:37:27,359 --> 01:37:30,760
only wanted the touch of a woman. Yeah, I got it. Yeah,

1313
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:33,399
bitch, I just don't order celery. Bro, No, Celary,

1314
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:36,760
get the rugula off the pizza.
Next time I'm Yeah, next time,

1315
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:41,439
I'm I'm at the fucking sports bar
that my wife definitely wanted to go to

1316
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:46,039
and hang out with me at.
Yeah, it has sports bar celery because

1317
01:37:46,079 --> 01:37:50,600
I don't need my fucking wife wanted
to munchbox. She's gonna fuck me later

1318
01:37:51,359 --> 01:37:55,920
after I eat these wings. Yeah, has nothing to do with the lack

1319
01:37:55,960 --> 01:38:00,760
of attention she got for five hours, Like definitely this time A Yeah,

1320
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:08,079
I knew it was you knew you
were Okay, like, don't bring Clary

1321
01:38:08,119 --> 01:38:11,359
out? Yeah, Um, well
that's all I got. Anyway, Let's

1322
01:38:11,399 --> 01:38:14,000
get some final thoughts from around the
table. We'll go to you last,

1323
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:16,720
Okay, because I'm a woman,
I got it. Yeah, okay,

1324
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:20,600
Well, well we're a pre progressive
here. We don't open doors for you.

1325
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:27,439
You go last, you Yeah,
okay, So it's me. Yeah,

1326
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,680
I'm playing a reverse in card boom
back to you. No, what

1327
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:34,640
are your final thoughts? You don't
have a reverse, So it's you that's

1328
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:39,560
you. Didn't I'm uncomfy someone though, all right, I'll just say it.

1329
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:43,239
Uh was what I actually assumed was
going to happened. I was actually

1330
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:47,239
even still like hilariously surprised that it
was, like yeah, in this era

1331
01:38:47,359 --> 01:38:50,239
we don't get a lot of lesbians, and then then this era we also

1332
01:38:50,399 --> 01:38:54,680
don't really have much on lesbians,
and then this era we really don't have

1333
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:58,319
much of lesbias. The funniest thing
I found, by the way of the

1334
01:38:58,359 --> 01:39:01,079
whole thing, and it wasn't from
from beyond these eras, was they're like,

1335
01:39:01,199 --> 01:39:03,239
oh, we have this picture of
two women and I was like,

1336
01:39:03,319 --> 01:39:08,279
oh, that's sweet. And then
I like, not sweet, but I

1337
01:39:08,319 --> 01:39:10,720
was like, oh, that's interesting. They finally have it, like and

1338
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:14,000
it was from like the eighteen nineties, I guess you could say. And

1339
01:39:14,399 --> 01:39:17,000
and then I kept reading and they're
like, it's from the cover of a

1340
01:39:17,079 --> 01:39:26,680
Criminology textbook. Okay, this is
and it was like a very like there

1341
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:29,439
was dressed of the period, obviously, but it was like a very um

1342
01:39:30,239 --> 01:39:32,359
I guess, average looking lesbian couple. There was one more fam, one

1343
01:39:32,399 --> 01:39:35,119
more mask and everything. And I
was like, oh, that's very that's

1344
01:39:35,159 --> 01:39:38,479
interesting because someone even took their picture. And then it was like it was

1345
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:45,600
the cover of Criminology something though,
oh yeah, it's Dan just doing something

1346
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:49,479
that we're coming back to me.
Um. Probably most of it is not

1347
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:55,840
historically kept because for the longest time, there was this crazy thing that we

1348
01:39:56,000 --> 01:40:00,640
just didn't let women read or write. So they said that constantly in this

1349
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:03,520
they're like, well, we don't
know much in part because women weren't reading

1350
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:09,439
or writing. Yeah, and if
they were good, it wasn't on tablets.

1351
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:14,680
Yeah, and they probably weren't like
spreading their business like that as well.

1352
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,479
You shouldn't know, not when it's
a crime, YEA true of all

1353
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:21,000
the wreck of the alphabet community,
I think lesbians are the least gossipy.

1354
01:40:24,079 --> 01:40:30,800
Why why you fucked up? Dan? Well, of course the gay guys

1355
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:36,640
are obviously the most talkative, like
pointing to me no reason, wow,

1356
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:44,800
tv um. I read something interesting
about gossip and that like it was originally

1357
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:49,319
meant it to be like basically it
was only turned into like a bad thing

1358
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:54,520
like gossipy, like to be misogynistic, and that it's actually like originally the

1359
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:57,800
purpose of the of gossip was to
like get to know your community and like

1360
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:01,399
be close building, yes, and
like it was not like known to be

1361
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:05,840
like a negative quality until like much
more recently and I don't know years or

1362
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:09,920
anything. I read a Twitter threat
about it, but yeah, it was

1363
01:41:10,039 --> 01:41:13,239
like basically to be like yeah,
women suck, right, gossip, that's

1364
01:41:13,359 --> 01:41:15,800
bad, but it really was like
women are empathetic and care about the community

1365
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:19,920
and each other, like and right, yeah, that is the number one

1366
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:28,239
thing I think when I think about
how people go crazy about women's sports not

1367
01:41:28,319 --> 01:41:30,159
being in value like men's sports and
stuff like that, and like, well

1368
01:41:30,199 --> 01:41:33,000
look, just do it does a
word like No, the problem is not

1369
01:41:33,199 --> 01:41:36,840
that we don't value like women's athleticism. It's that we don't value like the

1370
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:42,560
things that women exceed at more than
men. That's exactly I talk about this.

1371
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:46,079
I think about this all the time, and like, literally society's ills

1372
01:41:46,159 --> 01:41:50,359
are like to me, it's like
we don't value things. It's not just

1373
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:54,520
that we don't value women. It's
that we don't value things that are deemed

1374
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:59,399
feminine. And so like you can't
have an empathy olympics, well exactly,

1375
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:03,399
but like empathy, you can't have
it. You can't measure empathy, I

1376
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:08,840
think, but you, like empathy
is not valued in society when like it

1377
01:42:09,279 --> 01:42:13,000
is one of the most valuable things
to society, and it is like viewed

1378
01:42:13,039 --> 01:42:17,720
as a bad thing because it's like
womanly honestly, and it's like it's not

1379
01:42:18,399 --> 01:42:23,760
I mean to me, I don't
think we should necessarily always promote like what

1380
01:42:24,039 --> 01:42:29,680
women should take on more masculine roles, and like, obviously I'm not saying

1381
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:33,039
that women can't, Like I am
marrying somebody who is very masculine and like

1382
01:42:33,159 --> 01:42:36,920
does all these things. But like, it's not that we should promote women

1383
01:42:38,039 --> 01:42:44,159
being more masculine necessarily unless they want
to. We shouldn't be like encouraging girls

1384
01:42:44,399 --> 01:42:47,800
if they're not interested in it.
It's just we should value things that are

1385
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:53,399
womanly. Like all these characters who
are like they're badass, it's like because

1386
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:58,479
they're like dudes, Like, why
aren't they badass? They're just more exactly

1387
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,880
like being girly. You should be
badass too, Like why is it not

1388
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:06,319
so? Anyway, what were we
talking about? I didn't even lesbians.

1389
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:12,279
What would you learn today, Jake? I learned some fun words learned freak

1390
01:43:12,319 --> 01:43:15,520
a trix is up there for me. Yeah, and don't try to spin

1391
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:19,279
that into an insult. I think
it's a fun word. Who would ever

1392
01:43:19,359 --> 01:43:28,560
spend that? It was a great
one? Um cat name Strange would have

1393
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:32,239
been a way cooler name than Harry
Potter. Trix is actually Latin, so

1394
01:43:32,399 --> 01:43:38,520
was she was trying to make belitricks
like belt is what's the Bella route Beautiful

1395
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:44,039
Dominatrix. Yeah, her beautiful tricks
wasn't hot. She was evil and dark

1396
01:43:44,119 --> 01:43:46,319
and mean. Yeah, but you
know some jock guys, like those goth

1397
01:43:46,399 --> 01:43:50,039
chicks, you know, like sure, yeah, I learned that from Juno.

1398
01:43:50,199 --> 01:43:56,079
Anyway, that's where the rap community
got it. What bitches ain't ship

1399
01:43:56,159 --> 01:44:00,239
at hosing tricks? Tricks? Trick
was from turning a trick. All we

1400
01:44:00,359 --> 01:44:02,039
really know from the trick thing.
You know, Rabbit was trying to save

1401
01:44:02,119 --> 01:44:06,600
children from sex, right, yeah, takeaway from But I also learned the

1402
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:11,880
same thing that you guys did.
He was the original Chris Hansen. Oh

1403
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:16,640
he's like reverse Chris, Like you
don't want to see where where the there's

1404
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:20,640
no rainbow. That's that's the Lucky
Charms guy. Anyway, Jake, what

1405
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:24,720
did you learn? Yeah? Thanks, uh, well now it's gone.

1406
01:44:25,119 --> 01:44:28,319
No, I learned a lot.
I learned that of course, women were

1407
01:44:29,159 --> 01:44:32,560
not written about. Like Dan said, it's just like or maybe Rob said

1408
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:35,760
it said it No, I think
I think that was kind I think it's

1409
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:39,520
kind of the key take. It's
like, oh, I think one thing

1410
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:43,079
that people need to learn is like, there's only twelve people documented in This

1411
01:44:43,159 --> 01:44:45,560
doesn't mean they're only twelve people doing
it. Yeah, I think it was

1412
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:50,520
rampant. I'm sure. Well,
our main theme is shit don't change.

1413
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:57,199
Yeah, no, people like the
fuck dude, women were fucking everyone fucks.

1414
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,399
That's what we need to learn.
People fu people and they should and

1415
01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:05,039
they should. You should fuck as
long as they're consenting, as the only

1416
01:45:05,159 --> 01:45:10,840
thing. And I guess they don't
know because they don't have like a comparison.

1417
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:14,119
I guess the only thing I feel
bad about for anyone, it's just

1418
01:45:14,239 --> 01:45:20,720
the general cleanliness situation of any time
before post World War two. Yeah.

1419
01:45:21,079 --> 01:45:26,439
Sure, but I think there were
less STDs back then, or were there

1420
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:30,199
not. I just mean like sweat
and smell, Well, you're used to

1421
01:45:30,319 --> 01:45:33,560
it. You don't have a reference
point. Yeah, everything's basic. Right,

1422
01:45:34,119 --> 01:45:38,880
Um, what did I learn today? I got angrier today than I

1423
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:43,000
expected. Oh, perfect, that's
what I wanted. I well, only

1424
01:45:43,079 --> 01:45:45,560
at these things that I'm like,
literally, shit don't change. I guess

1425
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:49,720
this is your catchphrase. But so
many of these things that I'm like,

1426
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:54,159
oh, that was a problem then, and like it's a problem still,

1427
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:58,640
Like we didn't even we didn't progress
from something that was an issue four thousand

1428
01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:02,199
years ago. We prograb, but
not enough. There's still a root problem.

1429
01:46:02,399 --> 01:46:09,840
I think we typically find that um
not endearing, one of which I

1430
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:18,960
anyway say reassuring. Why because you're
white man? Yes? No, because

1431
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:29,520
it means that it's not like,
it's not antagonism, do you know what

1432
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:33,119
I mean? Like someone's not out
to get you. It's just dumb nature.

1433
01:46:33,359 --> 01:46:35,520
And I feel like that. I
don't know, I like, I

1434
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:41,399
don't love that argument because then it
like I think that emboldens people to say,

1435
01:46:42,079 --> 01:46:45,439
well, it's nature that we're hateful
in these ways. Well no,

1436
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:47,640
not that. I just I don't
mean the hate part. I just mean

1437
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:55,600
the frightened part, because it means
that it means to me that you can

1438
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:59,279
show someone that, like if there's
four thousand years of evidence that you can

1439
01:46:59,399 --> 01:47:02,479
be like, oh see like they
were reacting stupidly. Yeah, like that

1440
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:06,319
to me shows like look at like
all like that's not natural. It's it's

1441
01:47:06,399 --> 01:47:11,399
like look at the dumb people reacting
dumbly. I don't know. To me,

1442
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:15,479
it's it's reassuring to know at least
the patterns of human behavior. Okay,

1443
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,800
I see what you're saying, see
me, I view it as like

1444
01:47:18,039 --> 01:47:23,199
a definitely a pattern, but it
like it's all learned and it was learned

1445
01:47:23,279 --> 01:47:28,840
so long ago, and it underlies
society so much in such negative ways,

1446
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:30,439
and it makes me so angry because
like it didn't have to be and if

1447
01:47:31,319 --> 01:47:35,039
if four thousand years ago it was
a different way, then it would be

1448
01:47:35,159 --> 01:47:40,760
a different way. And like it's
learned from one generation to the next and

1449
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,800
the next and next, and like
we still haven't corrected these things that are

1450
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:47,680
like wrong, and that is really, I don't know, disappointing to me.

1451
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:50,840
Yeah, and to kind of speak
to that, I think what you're

1452
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:58,159
talking about too is like evolutionarily speaking, it really benefited us to categorizings quickly

1453
01:47:58,199 --> 01:48:01,640
and make quick assumptions to not die. We're past that, right, past

1454
01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:10,359
that civilization wise, but not like
our individualizations caught up to where we are.

1455
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:15,479
And it's straining. It's so frustrating, I mean, especially like I

1456
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:20,840
mean to me, like my salience
as like being a woman is a more

1457
01:48:21,159 --> 01:48:30,279
salient part of my identity than being
bisexual. Like and when I'm hearing all

1458
01:48:30,359 --> 01:48:35,239
this, I'm like, I hear
it is very much more like discrimination against

1459
01:48:35,279 --> 01:48:42,520
women over centuries and centuries than it
was discrimination against homosexuality, and like that

1460
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:46,279
is still but I'm saying like the
discrimination was against women more than it was

1461
01:48:46,279 --> 01:48:53,560
against homosexuality, because it was women
homosexuality that was discriminating. So it's just

1462
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:57,119
like it's just so frustrating because I
feel like we still feel those effects today

1463
01:48:57,399 --> 01:49:01,119
and like, I don't know,
man, it's bucks like girls are great.

1464
01:49:01,279 --> 01:49:06,119
I think we should be great.
I agree. I love girls to

1465
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:10,239
girls. We're excited to go to
your wedding, my girl and girl wedding.

1466
01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:13,720
Yeah, my game excited to watch
me get gay married. Yeah,

1467
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:18,720
I'm gonna send it to my grandpa
and be like he's dead, but he'll

1468
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:23,039
be watching. Yeah, well post
photos on his grave side. I just

1469
01:49:23,079 --> 01:49:26,920
send it to the cloud. Yeah, he's the cloud that he's sitting on.

1470
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:31,319
Got it anyway? On that note, Well, that's it for softcore

1471
01:49:31,359 --> 01:49:35,119
history. Wait, what we're gonna
have merch? Yeah? D oh yeah

1472
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:40,920
yeah, so we want to merch
now, Um, if you go on

1473
01:49:41,199 --> 01:49:44,479
our website, which we have as
well, we might want to touch that

1474
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:45,600
up a little bit. It'll get
a littleaner looking. But if you want

1475
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:48,960
to go buy merch right now,
you can't rough draft, but yeah,

1476
01:49:49,039 --> 01:49:54,359
pretty much before we got some T
shirts. The hats look way worse online,

1477
01:49:54,399 --> 01:49:57,479
they are great in person. Yeah, we gotta get some product photography.

1478
01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:59,920
There's some mock ups now, but
we have some T shirts and hats

1479
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:02,680
black navy white for all of them, I think, except for the hats

1480
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:06,520
are great black white. Anyway,
go to software history dot com checks out

1481
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:10,039
you can find out if you want
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1482
01:50:10,119 --> 01:50:14,680
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1483
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:17,199
also a merged section to where you
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1484
01:50:17,239 --> 01:50:21,079
Spread the word good damn t shirt. Yeah. Every time you don't

1485
01:50:21,159 --> 01:50:27,000
buy something from there, I get
built. So it just by the stuff,

1486
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:31,840
but I want it for free.
Yeah, we'll talk about it's not

1487
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:35,319
tough. Yeah, but yes a
month um. Also, of course,

1488
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:41,960
leave reviews that'll help us charts.
We haven't got enough iron Dome definitions yet,

1489
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,720
but we will read them online.
Yeah, so hit us up with

1490
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,359
some reviews, tell a friend about
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1491
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:51,720
uh yeah, just thank you for
riding and listening to the podcast. Oh

1492
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:56,319
and also it should be note we
have a new exciting member of the podcast

1493
01:50:56,399 --> 01:51:00,279
coming on. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, I'm currently creating him as we

1494
01:51:00,359 --> 01:51:02,520
speak. Oh god, we have
a new exciting member of the pod.

1495
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:09,920
We have a mascott. I can't
reveal any more. Prise. It's a

1496
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:15,840
surprise, just like the listeners will
have to tune in. I am I

1497
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:18,960
am not as excited as you guys
are. Not well. I don't know.

1498
01:51:19,159 --> 01:51:21,680
That feels like he seems tound like
a problem with me for some reason.

1499
01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:26,840
No, he I don't think you. I think you can tell me

1500
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:30,880
who it is. I can't thank
you for listening. We'll catch you next

1501
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:34,640
week for Jake and Dan and Veronica, rock Um, Rob Fox and you

1502
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:35,760
just got soft served.