1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:05,160 How are you doing? No, dare, It's me Tigger am dark Wing 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:10,960 Duck It's me Bunkers. Keep babcat a right ya did agree your favorite fibly 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,199 you design? Hold? Oh no go. My name is Jim Cummings and 4 00:00:15,279 --> 00:00:21,039 welcome to tune Jim. Welcome to tune in with Jim Cummings. I'm Brennan, 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,079 dad of the four Finger Discount Network, joined right now by producer Chris. 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,839 How you doing, sir, good? How's everybody doing today? We're 7 00:00:26,879 --> 00:00:29,960 doing fantastic and of course we're joined by the terror that flaps in the night 8 00:00:30,079 --> 00:00:32,799 himself. He is, of course dark with no No Jim Cummings, Jim, 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,840 how are you so superb Thank you for asking my friend stay dangerous out 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,079 there? Oh wow, is here already? Chris? How exciting he is? 11 00:00:41,399 --> 00:00:45,960 Yes he is. So I'm doing fantastic. Of course Dark Wings here 12 00:00:46,359 --> 00:00:48,799 to discuss bonkers today. Oh wait, no, not Bunkers, We're here 13 00:00:48,799 --> 00:00:53,200 to talk about Dark Ring Dark Yes, I'm not gonna lie. I think 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,479 people have been more excited for this episode than anything we've done in the past. 15 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,840 They just really they love themselves some Dark Wing and for good reason. 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,079 You've said in the past that. I know it's a big statement because you've 17 00:01:03,159 --> 00:01:06,840 voiced so many characters in the past. The pooh Is is just an absolutely 18 00:01:07,079 --> 00:01:11,040 icon pop culture. But it's dark Wing your favorite. He's way up there. 19 00:01:11,239 --> 00:01:15,079 Yeah. You know people say they always say, well, what is 20 00:01:15,079 --> 00:01:17,959 your favorite character? Like, you know, and the problem is it's a 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,560 good problem. But I've got a few, you know, so uh, 22 00:01:22,799 --> 00:01:26,439 Poo and Tigger or if I've said this before, I forgive me, but 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,799 they're way up there. And then you know, I go kind of from 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,519 there right to dark Wing and uh, you know, Taz is in there, 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:40,040 Hondo Onnaka from Star Wars, Clone Wars, and Ray from Princess and 26 00:01:40,079 --> 00:01:42,000 the Frog. So I've got like five or six, you know, top 27 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:47,120 top dogs there. But you know, there's no doubt about it. I 28 00:01:47,159 --> 00:01:51,719 mean dark Wing is he is the terror the flaps in the night. Yeah. 29 00:01:51,719 --> 00:01:53,519 What is it about him that makes him one of your favorite characters? 30 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:00,040 Well, you know, he's the Uh I'm either sorry or happy to say 31 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,319 he's the most like me. You know, he's very sarcastic, he's a 32 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:07,159 he's a Wisenheimer. You know, he's not the biggest guy in the world, 33 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,759 but you know, he could talk the biggest guy in the world, 34 00:02:12,479 --> 00:02:16,520 and uh, he was just an enormous amount of fun and and I think 35 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:23,479 it was directly related to just how much freedom they gave me, you know, 36 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:30,199 to just improvise and and play and drag everybody along for the ride. 37 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,319 You know. Jenny McSwain, the great Jenny McSwain, she was our voice 38 00:02:34,319 --> 00:02:38,520 director and to her, I mean, bless her heart, we should get 39 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,520 here on here too. But she said she goes, doing a dark wing 40 00:02:42,599 --> 00:02:47,400 session is like riding a horse that you're you found out in the prairie and 41 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,759 you're trying to attain it. And Cummings has just gone out of his mind 42 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,000 and he's losing it. He's he's just you know, doing all this stuff 43 00:02:55,039 --> 00:03:00,400 and carrying carrying on in a thousand different ways, and it was just like, 44 00:03:00,159 --> 00:03:02,759 there's no telling what he's gonna say next. So everybody had to be 45 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:07,759 on this on their toes and and I think it came came across and I'm 46 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:14,520 really pleased because of Disney Plus now and it's one of their top shows and 47 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:20,199 you know, it's thirty years twenty five years old something maybe more so I'm 48 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,280 very proud. Yeah, I'm very proud of that. With all the improvising, 49 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,280 it wasn't from the get go. That wasn't I've seen the interviews where 50 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,080 you said you were like three or four episodes in and they realize, oh 51 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,400 wait, Jim's just gonna make up the catchphrase every episode. Yeah before and 52 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,120 then there's an iconic story tell it again, the iconic story about the spot. 53 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,919 Oh well, you know, there comes a point in in every script 54 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,560 when there's sort of a call to arms, if you will, and dark 55 00:03:46,639 --> 00:03:52,360 Wings ready to go in and do some battle with the bad guy. And 56 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,639 uh, and he'll show up in a back alley or a balcony of an 57 00:03:55,639 --> 00:04:01,280 old, abandoned movie theater and very well let on his end anyway, don't. 58 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,039 I have no idea where the lighting came from, but you know, 59 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,719 hepe you stay. I am the terror that flaps in the night. And 60 00:04:08,759 --> 00:04:12,240 then there would always be a line in the middle, and the third line 61 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:17,639 would always be I am duck, weak duck, and it would be we 62 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,160 probably about five or six shows in and we only did like one hundred and 63 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:29,360 however many it it said, I am the terror that flaps in the night. 64 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,240 It doesn't matter what I'm right here, Jim's gonna say something else anyway, 65 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:40,759 I am duck, wake duck, and sou that was true when you 66 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,360 sold that script. How prow were you when knowing that the rot Isn't they 67 00:04:44,399 --> 00:04:47,120 trust you to come up with something? Yeah? Well, the thing is 68 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:53,360 I always did their their line as written. I always always did. That 69 00:04:53,439 --> 00:04:56,040 was the first take, and I'd say, can we do another take? 70 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,439 Do I just do another day? Sure? And you know Jenny, Jenny 71 00:04:59,439 --> 00:05:02,439 would let us do another take, and inevitably they would they would choose the 72 00:05:02,439 --> 00:05:08,959 second one. It would be, you know, and it was I don't 73 00:05:08,959 --> 00:05:13,800 I don't want to tell this again. But the one that was rejected was 74 00:05:14,399 --> 00:05:18,600 really disgusting, and so I won't say it here. How Doc, it's 75 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,560 not the urine story, is it. It's not that one, Yeah, 76 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:27,639 that is. It's okay. Actually the floaty had something to do with the 77 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,399 floating. Okay, Oh, we don't know that one. Have you ever? 78 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:36,720 Have you ever told that one before? Maybe you know it's it's you 79 00:05:36,759 --> 00:05:41,279 know, I have the floaty that will not flush in the toilet bowl of 80 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,759 crime. You know. I was like, wait, what what did I 81 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,439 just say? And I said, okay, cancel that and then I made 82 00:05:46,519 --> 00:05:48,800 up something else because I was like, wait a minute, I just called 83 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:55,279 myself anyway a piece of food something like that. Yeah, and that's a 84 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,600 and without the H. Who is you really need the H? You really 85 00:06:00,959 --> 00:06:03,720 have the age? I really do? Do you want to know something? 86 00:06:03,759 --> 00:06:06,480 It's a bit freaky. And I didn't plan this and only dawned on me 87 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:12,680 yesterday that we're recording this on the sixth of September your time, twenty twenty 88 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,560 three, thirty two years to the day that Darkwing Duck premiered. Get out, 89 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,480 yep to the da Let's get dangerous. Let's do it, shall we? 90 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,160 That's crazy. I didn't not know that. Today, thanks for that. 91 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,839 On Disney Channel, Darkling Dawns the Duck Part one and two premiered for 92 00:06:32,879 --> 00:06:39,000 the first time, like a movie length premiered and rightly so, and rightly 93 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,199 so. Yeah, thirty two years ago today. There you go, two 94 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,639 years ago today. But let's let's just start off. Let's just start off 95 00:06:44,639 --> 00:06:48,800 those so Darkwing duck. Right, those two words darkwing duck. What immediately 96 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,560 springs to Jim Cummings mind when you hear those words dark wing duck, what 97 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:58,920 do you think of? Oh gosh, great times, fantastic times. You 98 00:06:58,959 --> 00:07:00,959 know, it was a golden in my life, that whole. I mean, 99 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,879 I had a couple of decades of golden moments in my life throughout the 100 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,759 Disney Afternoon. Uh. And and it started, I think, I want 101 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:18,680 to say, Dark Wings started as a ABC show, No became it started 102 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:24,680 on Disney. It was on the channel or you know, in the in 103 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,120 the Disney Afternoon lineup, this is what they used to call it. And 104 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,319 and then ABC said because they didn't even own Disney yet or Disney didn't known 105 00:07:33,319 --> 00:07:36,800 them, or however that goes, but they said, you know, those 106 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,800 are doing really well. Can we have a bunch? So we made a 107 00:07:40,879 --> 00:07:46,079 bunch for Saturday morning? And I remember thinking, that is so cool that 108 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,560 we're doing the show. We're loving it, we're having great time, everybody's 109 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:56,279 having a great time. And somebody else noticed it, noticed that this big 110 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,560 DV network said can we have some of those? And early around Okay, 111 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,160 sure, you know so the answer is always yes when they want more shows. 112 00:08:03,959 --> 00:08:09,680 Yeah. So I just remember I read that apparently has started off, 113 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,959 and it's sort of some people are saying it is and some people saying it 114 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,560 wasn't. It was meant to be a spinoff of duck Tails. Do you 115 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:16,920 know the truth blind it was it a spinoff of duck Tails or not? 116 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:20,040 Because I had launch paid on there, but I believe tad Stones is coming 117 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,600 and said, nah, that wasn't really it was. It was its own 118 00:08:22,759 --> 00:08:26,439 idea. But when he first would pitched the idea, it wasn't pitched to 119 00:08:26,439 --> 00:08:30,879 you as a spinoff of duck Tails in anyway. No. No, in 120 00:08:30,959 --> 00:08:35,159 fact, it wasn't even mentioned. It really wasn't even mentioned. Yeah, 121 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,559 it was you know tad Stone, Tad is readies Dark Wings Dad. I 122 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,519 always say tad Stones is Dark Wings father, and Jenny McSwain is is his 123 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:48,960 mother, and uh, you know, the voice director, and so no, 124 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,559 I don't know that it was at all. I just think, you 125 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,559 know, the only commonality was they were ducks. Yeah, okay, you 126 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:01,399 know, and they occupied you know, they occupied this name airspace. But 127 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:07,039 say can it wasn't the same as you know where the hu we do in 128 00:09:07,159 --> 00:09:11,159 Louie lived yea scrugeously so you know, yeah different, yeah, absolutely, 129 00:09:11,759 --> 00:09:16,960 yeah. So I don't think so you're touching on earlier that it's one of 130 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,600 your most beloved roles, one of your favorites. I saw an interview recently 131 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,759 where you said this is about seven eight years ago that you said it. 132 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:26,000 One of the reasons for that is that you feel like it was the first 133 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,759 character where you were able to create your own voice for it. Because you've 134 00:09:28,799 --> 00:09:33,240 been winning, You've done Tigo and things like that and Taz, but this 135 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:37,039 is one of the first roles where you felt like this was you creating something. 136 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,559 Yes, no, that's one hundred percent rate. You know I when 137 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,639 I first, I mean even in Dumbo Circus when I was lying on the 138 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:50,120 lion, he was a takeoff on Timothy the Mouse from the movie Dumbo, 139 00:09:50,799 --> 00:09:54,320 And so by the time Dark Wing rolled around, he was a signature character. 140 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,879 He was there was there were no characters excuse me, there were no 141 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:05,960 dark Wings before MOI and there never will be another one after me. Thank 142 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,360 you. I just wanted to get that in anyway. Uh So, uh, 143 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,320 yeah, he's my guy. Yeah, and I'm very very proud of 144 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,799 that. Yeah, and I love the guy. Did you have any input 145 00:10:16,879 --> 00:10:20,120 into the capital Was he already creating, fully fleshed out and established before you 146 00:10:20,159 --> 00:10:24,399 were given the role. Well, you know, you you do have input 147 00:10:24,759 --> 00:10:31,879 because with Gosh I'm a notorious ad libber. Not only with the intro. 148 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,799 I'm the tear of the flaps in the night Winged Scurgee, you know, 149 00:10:35,759 --> 00:10:41,399 but just throughout the show, I would I would throw quick little asides in 150 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,519 and and they kept them all and it all went toward, uh, you 151 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:52,240 know, establishing the personality that everybody came to kind of like. And so 152 00:10:52,759 --> 00:10:54,799 you know, I mean it wasn't it was it official? No? But 153 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,639 was it definite and palpable? Yes, because you're a big fan and it's 154 00:11:00,759 --> 00:11:03,159 very very comic centric this character, isn't it. Yeah? I think so. 155 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,879 Well, I've got all the comic books. I've got them here somewhere, 156 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,799 but can't let you see them because I don't want to bend the cover. 157 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,720 You understand, everybody out there is going, yeah that's true. Yeah, 158 00:11:16,759 --> 00:11:22,320 okay, I feel you. They're behind glass. Yeah, they're behind 159 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,320 glass. Yeah, hermetically sealed. There is no air in this room, 160 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:31,120 in that room. If you're enjoying everything we do, hear it tuned in 161 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,679 and want access to even more Gym Cummings podcasts, you can support the show 162 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,519 today on Patreon. 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So I grew up in 172 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:15,080 Canada and we didn't have the Disney Channel. Growing up, there was no 173 00:12:15,279 --> 00:12:18,440 Disney Channel in Canada. We just had it on like a free to air 174 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,559 station. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was called it was called the 175 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,519 Family Channel in Canada. And now they have the Disney Channel in Canada, 176 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,240 but that was just a couple of years ago they got it, and so 177 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,559 yeah, it was a different schedule and it wasn't as you know, like 178 00:12:33,919 --> 00:12:37,679 routine, but definitely anytime dark Wing came on, I was definitely tune in. 179 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,919 I just felt like Darkwing was the cool one, wasn't It was like 180 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:46,559 the cool Disney show. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, I have to agree, 181 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:50,080 even if a superhero aspect to it, the super the superheroes and supervillain 182 00:12:50,159 --> 00:12:54,039 just made it feel cool when you're a kid and it's an adult god. 183 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,200 Yeah yeah, yeah. Well it was like, you know, I was 184 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:01,799 always a big still am comic book, and this was a comic book. 185 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,720 It was an animated comic book. To me, I was like, okay, 186 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:11,720 oh, absolutely full speed ahead. And I think because of so many 187 00:13:11,759 --> 00:13:15,360 comic references, with whether it be the names of the characters, all the 188 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,000 villains and things like that, when you're watching it, don't really feel like 189 00:13:18,039 --> 00:13:20,840 you're watching just a kid's Disney show. You feel like you're watching a show 190 00:13:20,879 --> 00:13:24,039 that all ages can enjoy, as opposed to like Tailspin. You know, 191 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,279 it's it's got some adult humor in it, but you feel like you're watching 192 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,879 a kids show or you know, Bonkers. You know it's got adult humor 193 00:13:30,879 --> 00:13:31,759 in it, but it still feels like a bit of a kid show, 194 00:13:31,919 --> 00:13:37,720 where the comic aspect and the dark sort of nature of Dark Ring Duck makes 195 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,919 it feel more adult than usual Disney animated show. Yeah, well I agree, 196 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,600 I absolutely agree, you know, and I think that was by design. 197 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,759 I think it was you know, I know, the tad Stones and 198 00:13:48,799 --> 00:13:52,559 all the great writers that we worked with, they all had that sly sense 199 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,279 of humor, you know, and they always you know, it was like 200 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,600 the kids in the back of the room. We wanted to get something over 201 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,759 on the teacher, and so I think that's what they were doing. Like 202 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,440 you know, uh, Taras Bulba was a character and it was I'm going 203 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,320 to forget the name of it, but it was a movie with George Chakiris 204 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:16,480 and gosh Yule Brenner, and that character came from that, I mean, 205 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,320 and it was Taras Balba or something like that, and it was this big, 206 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,600 giant bad guy. But it was played by Tim Curry and I really 207 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:28,360 really enjoyed. I mean, I have great admiration for him. He's a 208 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,000 a great guy, a great actor. I hope he's feeling good at this 209 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:39,279 point. And you know, it was just I remember they would bring in 210 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:45,960 these people that you couldn't believe, you know, for guest roles, you 211 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,960 know, like Carol Channing and Tim Curry and all these people excuse me, 212 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:56,720 and and it was just a joy. Everybody kind of wanted to. You 213 00:14:56,759 --> 00:15:01,320 know, Rita Marino I think was in one that might have been bonkers, 214 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:05,279 but you know, all these incredible actors they just kind of like enjoyed moonlighting 215 00:15:05,799 --> 00:15:11,039 coming over and dipping their toe into animation and hanging out in this weird little 216 00:15:11,039 --> 00:15:16,360 world of ours, and you know, it was great. And A Dark 217 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:22,759 Wing was a magnet for that because it kind of had an overall appeal. 218 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,720 It wasn't just for I mean, it was well written because it wasn't for 219 00:15:26,759 --> 00:15:31,080 first graders, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and then then it's 220 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,200 for college kids also at the same time. Now, that was a good 221 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,600 trick, and I think that was one of the keys. I think it's 222 00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:41,759 one of the cases of the longevity as well, because now kids on Disney, 223 00:15:41,799 --> 00:15:46,320 plus everyone like myself who grew up watching it, we can still enjoy 224 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,200 it now as adults not feel like we're watching a corny kids show. And 225 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,279 my son, like my son who's five, and my daughter who's just about 226 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,159 to turn three, they can watch it and enjoy it for different reasons. 227 00:15:54,159 --> 00:15:56,679 You know, it's just it's just funny, being silly, but I'm enjoying 228 00:15:56,679 --> 00:16:00,360 the humor. I'm like, ah, I'm pretty sure Jim, we made 229 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,120 that lineup because I don't think of what it would have been. Yeah. 230 00:16:03,159 --> 00:16:06,720 Well, every time you think that you're right, just for the record, 231 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,279 every time you think that you're right, that was a little too knowing that 232 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,159 was a little two inside. Yeah he made that up. Yeah, you 233 00:16:12,279 --> 00:16:17,559 know. So, Yeah, it's just back to your point about just dark 234 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,200 Wing being like a comic book, you know, kind of feel show. 235 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,399 And Jim you mentioned, you know, he would have been one of the 236 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,559 guys sitting in the back of the class. One of the reasons I enjoyed 237 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,720 it growing up was just like he had the same kind of like energy to 238 00:16:27,759 --> 00:16:30,679 me as like a Deadpool or like a Spider Man, you know how they're 239 00:16:30,679 --> 00:16:34,399 so they have the quips and you know, they're little asides, and I 240 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,960 think that's what really made me gravitate towards it, because I just loved your 241 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,120 you know, I'm now learning you know that they're all made up by you. 242 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,320 But yeah, but that sense of humor kind of in the middle of 243 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:53,679 action is just such a It's so appealing to me and I think many other 244 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:59,159 people too. Oh. Thanks, yeah, yeah, I could remember one. 245 00:16:59,559 --> 00:17:03,080 Gosh, I can't see I can't remember the name of the episode, 246 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,319 but it was there was this lady that was going on and on about fashion 247 00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:11,920 or something, and Darker was trying to, uh save them from being ripped 248 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,079 off by Taurus Bulba or something or you know, you know, bush rude 249 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,680 or whoever it was, and uh, it's just going and another thing and 250 00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:22,000 another well, thank you for sharing. And and then he just dove through 251 00:17:22,039 --> 00:17:26,559 there and and it was just and I've gotten letters and people at the time 252 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:30,880 they're going, was that written thank you for sharing? Because that was kind 253 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,880 of a thing at the day in the in the late eighties, early nineties, 254 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,759 thank you for sharing. It was real touchy feely, and everybody got 255 00:17:40,799 --> 00:17:45,839 that I was being sarcastic, so that made me thank you for sharing. 256 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,079 Shut up, okay, goodbye. You know. I think an element that 257 00:17:49,079 --> 00:17:52,640 you bring to a lot of your characters too, like Chris was touching in 258 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,200 there with with the humor, is that you'd like to break the fourth wall. 259 00:17:55,559 --> 00:17:59,640 Bonkers did a lot as well. You'd like to address the audience a 260 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,200 lot with your humor. I think, yeah, it's true. Yeah, 261 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,440 well, you know it draws them in. It's fun for me, it's 262 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:11,720 fun for everybody. And you know, I've always enjoyed doing that, and 263 00:18:11,759 --> 00:18:17,440 you can't do it with every character like Winnie the Pooh and Tigger Will will 264 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,920 never what wall? They didn't even know there was the first wall? Yeah, 265 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,880 you know, much less the fourth wall. So yeah, I appreciate 266 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:30,200 that, except at the coronation. What's that? Except when Poo's at the 267 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,799 coronation. I feel like that breaks in a little bit. Okay, yeah, 268 00:18:33,839 --> 00:18:37,559 fair enough, Yeah busted. Yeah did you guys see that? Everybody 269 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:44,119 on YouTube? Okay? Good? Yeah, yeah, I think they're breaking 270 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:48,799 the fourth wall. To breaking that fourth wall also creates this sense of inclusiveness 271 00:18:48,839 --> 00:18:51,759 with with the kids watching as well. It feels like you're it's like you're 272 00:18:51,759 --> 00:18:53,680 you're acknowledging that they're watching. It's like I know you're they're watching. Come 273 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,039 along for the ride? Yeah, well said, yeah, I agree. 274 00:18:57,559 --> 00:19:02,960 Yeah, it's very true because it's it's inclusive. As we say no, 275 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:07,960 and it's gonna be said just like that as well. I'm pretty sure that's 276 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:14,240 how you have to say. It's inclusive. So you're welcome to be included 277 00:19:14,839 --> 00:19:18,279 if you include me I'll include you. How's that that's fair? Right? 278 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,799 Exactly right. So let's get to how you became dark Wing, right, 279 00:19:22,839 --> 00:19:26,880 So is it similar to what would discuss last week with with leather Head and 280 00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:30,359 all in Turtles rolls? Was Was this just something that your agent pitched you 281 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,480 because you were already working on Tailspin and Chip and Dale at this point or 282 00:19:33,519 --> 00:19:36,119 is it a case of, you know, if Jim wants a role, 283 00:19:36,559 --> 00:19:37,680 he's going he's probably going to get it. Or did you still have to 284 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:42,400 go through the same genuine audition process to get dark Wing Duck. No, 285 00:19:42,519 --> 00:19:45,319 I just told them to the hell up and hire me. That's what I 286 00:19:45,319 --> 00:19:48,599 thought would happen. Yeah, actually, oh no, wait no, wait 287 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,480 I didn't say that. Wait let me let me recalibrate. Yeah, any 288 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,480 I was saying. I didn't say anything like that at all. No, 289 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,079 So what did what did your first here about? Doc? We had had 290 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,240 it come back? Well, I remember, you know, the audition went 291 00:20:03,279 --> 00:20:11,000 out to me and every everybody else in town, and it was They actually, 292 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:17,599 oddly enough, based it a little bit off of a Daffy Duck uh 293 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:25,359 Warner Brothers episode in which he took on the roll of the Scarlet Pimpernel and 294 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:30,839 it was a one off. It was in one one Bugs Bunny short, 295 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,559 you know, one seven minute cartoon. But but he he dressed he the 296 00:20:34,759 --> 00:20:38,599 outfit looked like dark Wing, but it was red. You know. He 297 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:44,920 had the big flowing hat and sort of a you know, slightly musketeer ish 298 00:20:45,799 --> 00:20:48,240 and it had a little bit of the shadow in it, which was an 299 00:20:48,279 --> 00:20:55,079 old I guess forties pulp uh, you know, a pulp fiction character. 300 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,960 And so they put it together and they said, well, we can't make 301 00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:02,880 it red. We can't you know this and that, and this guy's white 302 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,880 and Daffy was black, and so they kind of you know, massaged it 303 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,319 a little bit and came up with that outfit that he's got on. Uh. 304 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,519 In fact, I think you can see it right back there. There's 305 00:21:15,559 --> 00:21:22,559 a few. I'm never far from a few dark Wing everywhere, dark ways 306 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:26,640 everywhere. I mean, in case he's I feel like someone's watching me anyway. 307 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,880 So yeah, they just put that all together, and you know, 308 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,200 they they certainly didn't want it to sound you know like at that point, 309 00:21:37,319 --> 00:21:45,240 Donald and Daffy Duck were the two famous ducks if you will, you know, 310 00:21:45,799 --> 00:21:48,880 and Donald nobody can understand what the hell he's saying. So we couldn't 311 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:55,160 have that, could we. And then Daffy fluffer and fuck attack, you 312 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,839 know, with all the spitting and the this and the that, we can't 313 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:03,880 do that. So I honestly I thought, gosh, I don't think I've 314 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,960 ever said this before. Okay, so nobody, everybody cover your ears, 315 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:14,759 because this is stuff that nobody's ever heard before, unless I've said it before. 316 00:22:15,559 --> 00:22:19,480 And and I was thinking that it would be nice to have a little 317 00:22:19,519 --> 00:22:29,079 bit of the looniness of Gaffy Daffy Duck in there, but without the spit, 318 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,759 and you can understand what the hell he's saying, you know, because 319 00:22:33,079 --> 00:22:37,480 that's always a plus when you when you're when you're doing voice over, to 320 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,319 let them actually know what you're saying. And and uh, you know, 321 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:47,119 because Daffy Duck and sort of like this, and dark Wink Duck is sort 322 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:52,599 of like that, and I'm sure there was no similarity in that, maybe 323 00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:56,759 a little bit, but I just thought I just thought, well, let's 324 00:22:56,799 --> 00:23:00,640 try that, you know, and let's see and you know, and then 325 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,960 see it's not just a voice I've always said. You know, people will 326 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,599 say, well, how do I become a voice actor. Now, it's 327 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,599 not that you're becoming a voice actor, you're becoming an actor who who uses 328 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,799 your voice? You know, it's uh, Jess Harnell said it. Uh 329 00:23:17,079 --> 00:23:19,400 when when you're a voice actor, it's a small V, but it's a 330 00:23:19,519 --> 00:23:26,200 capital A and uh. And that's that's the key. You know, you're 331 00:23:26,279 --> 00:23:30,079 you're you're acting in character, and that's just the voice that they have. 332 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:36,519 And you know, you know, I apparently worked. It definitely worked. 333 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,039 You were just landing so many roles with Disney at that point in time. 334 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,599 Can you remember anyone else who auditioned for Dark Wing? Like, because I 335 00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:45,440 don't remember with a bonk because you said, Jim Carry, Can you remember 336 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,920 anybody notable that went for Dark Wing? Oh? Yeah, gosh, you 337 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:56,799 know, I don't know that I was privy to it. Uh, yeah, 338 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:02,279 I'm pretty sure, Sir Lawrence Olivier, Richard Burton, who else? 339 00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:07,400 Tell me? Bruce Willis definitely Bruce, Anthony Hopkins. Anthony Anthony Hopkins was 340 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:15,519 your Brenner? Your Brenner? Yeah? Oh and Meryl Street really she wouldn't. 341 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,720 Yeah, I kicked her ass. Yeah, so there so was it? 342 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,279 Was it a different process to Boggers thinks. I know with Boker's he 343 00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:26,799 said, I think you're brought back maybe five times. I think five times. 344 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:32,039 So with this one, you auditioned and was it a case of what 345 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,319 we found out man? Or did you did you have to come back a 346 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,079 few times? How was the duck duck process? Yeah? I want to 347 00:24:37,079 --> 00:24:40,720 say it was like three, two or three times. Yeah, because they 348 00:24:40,759 --> 00:24:44,519 didn't know, you know, they were they were going back and forth to 349 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,720 weather and not. He would have a certain you know, and I just 350 00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:51,039 thought, oh god, I'm not going to do that really, So with 351 00:24:51,079 --> 00:24:53,240 the idea of giving him that lisp kind of where they yeah a little bit. 352 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,000 But the most important thing with him was attitude. You know. I 353 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:03,039 mean he's he has no superpowers, he's a pretty good detective. He's got 354 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:08,359 lots of gadgets. So it was more Batman than anything else, you know, 355 00:25:08,839 --> 00:25:11,480 Batman with a little shadow in there. I mean, he had the 356 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:15,599 thunder Quack, he had the the you know, all the motorcycle, the 357 00:25:17,079 --> 00:25:21,680 you know, the gas gun, suck gass, evil doers. And one 358 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,599 of my favorite things was when I don't know if I told you, but 359 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,480 I remember when because it went to ABC, it was very, very, 360 00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:32,799 very popular, and they went, oh, jeez, can let's put this 361 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,920 on on on network on on Saturday, not just you know, five days 362 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,559 a week. And so they put it on there and a couple episodes in 363 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:48,880 I guess ABC called me in and you know, at the at the beginning 364 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,559 of a recording session and they go, now, we just want to make 365 00:25:52,680 --> 00:26:02,319 sure you are saying suck gas evil doors, right, yeah, yeah, 366 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,680 yeah. I mean he's got a gas gun. It's like one of his 367 00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:07,519 It's kind of a passive weapon, and that was part of the the idea. 368 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,400 You know, you throw you throw a rope and it wraps around them 369 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,839 and knocks them down. Well, they're not going to blow up and die, 370 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,880 right, so a gas gun knocks him out. They're not going to 371 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:21,559 be shot in the head. So they were the sort of PC you know, 372 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,160 user friendly weaponry, and so the gas gun was a part of it. 373 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,839 And they go, okay, so he's saying suck gas evil doers. 374 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,559 Yes, that's that's absolutely what he's saying. And they go and then they 375 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,079 go quiet, and they go, okay, well, do me a favorite 376 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:47,559 really hit the g on gas because suck ass evil doers just it's not the 377 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,559 same, And I went, all right, all right, thank you suck 378 00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:55,160 ass evil, got it, got it? Got it? Ding ding ding 379 00:26:55,279 --> 00:27:00,599 ding ding? Yeah, help how it sounds. It's not my fault. 380 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:07,359 Yeah, yeah, I know you have a problem with Geez apparently, so 381 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,640 touching back, So you said that was twenty with the idea of given dark 382 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,559 wing duck a lisp all the spitting like like Daffy and Donald. What is 383 00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:18,799 it about duck characters? Why do they have to give them that that speech 384 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:22,599 impediment? What? What is something about that design duck? What is it 385 00:27:22,759 --> 00:27:26,079 why? I don't know, it's it's not It wasn't my idea and it 386 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,319 lasted for ten seconds. Okay, well, no that sucks. Why do 387 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,960 you think they gave Daffy and Donald like both ducks the same speeching like, 388 00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:38,279 what do you think that was the case? I don't know. I think 389 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,519 first of all, ducks don't talk, Brandon, I don't know if you 390 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:48,920 knew that that's that's Yeah, you see now that there's a there's a problem 391 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:56,000 inherent in the system. But you know, I don't know. I think 392 00:27:56,079 --> 00:28:00,920 it's it's partly you know, giving it's part of giving a cartoon character a 393 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:07,599 goofy sounding voice, and it's built into the model. You know, bubba 394 00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:11,440 blub bla blah bo. You know, certain characters just have to sound a 395 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:17,279 little little dim or a little too undim or whatever, and you know, 396 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,119 you just have to mold it to to to fit. And I just think 397 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,880 that that's you know, up until that point, all the all the different 398 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:33,759 characters had speech impediment. And you know, so I gave him Tigger and 399 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,640 said, that's all you get with you having so many lead roles. He 400 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,039 had Winnie the Pooh, and you had Dark Wing and you got Bunkers. 401 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,240 Was ever a point where everyone else in the Disney community were like, well, 402 00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:48,279 Jim's going for it. Why am I bothering? He's going to get 403 00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:52,359 it. Anyway, when you're for to this day, no one will audition 404 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,319 for anything that I'm if If he Jim's going for it's like, well, 405 00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:57,680 why waste my time? You know he's going to get it? So true? 406 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,319 Exactly right, Yeah, it's it's a well known fact. I can't 407 00:29:02,359 --> 00:29:07,359 believe you you knew that. Yeah, it's so true. Yeah. Well 408 00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:14,000 yeah, I'm by the way, I'm going next year all three powerpuff Girls, 409 00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:18,519 right wow? Really? Yeah, no, I just made that, 410 00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:22,599 but but it sounds good if we can get that going on. They clarified 411 00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:25,519 because that would have been a big headline on comicbook dot com. Okay, 412 00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:30,119 okay, yeah, yeah, all three powerpuff Girls. Yeah, yes, 413 00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:40,759 Beware Beware Ted before Dark Wing. Oh gosh, that's a good question. 414 00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:44,119 Would he Would he have been aware of your work when creating dcs. I'm 415 00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:45,960 just interested to wonder luck with a Do you think he had you when he 416 00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:49,079 better? But do you think he had you in mind when he created the 417 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,880 dark Green dark character? Well? Do you think he had anyone? You 418 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,880 know? I can't I can't think that. I can't flatter myself that much. 419 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,440 But you know, it's very I mean I've known him for a hundred 420 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,920 years. You know, all the all the guys over there at Disney, 421 00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:10,359 Disney Character voices and Disney TV Animation, you know, Jim Meghan, Mark 422 00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:14,640 Zaslov, you know at Wexler. I could go down the list and I'm 423 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,440 gonna stop, Toby, I'm gonna stop because if I keep going, I'll 424 00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:22,799 leave somebody out and that won't be right. But yeah, I mean we 425 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,000 were all it was interesting. I mean, we were all kind of in 426 00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:33,440 our prime, in our thirties or you know, and uh, you know, 427 00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:40,160 cable television was exploding. You know, people nowadays think it was there 428 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,839 forever. But when I was a little boy, there were four stations, 429 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:52,240 ABC, NBC, CBS and whatever. You know, public television was back 430 00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:56,440 then, uhf and that was it. And then all of a sudden, 431 00:30:56,519 --> 00:31:03,119 boom, all these cable channels opened up and they needed programming, They really 432 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,240 really needed programming. So Disney started cranking out you know, tail Spend, 433 00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:11,519 Dark Wing, you know, Bunkers, just on and on and on, 434 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:18,839 Gummy Bears. So yeah, oh yeah, absolutely, And so you know, 435 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,920 I think I was a little bit of it was being at a good 436 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,440 place at a good time, ray placed at a ray time whatever the expression. 437 00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:30,119 Also right people at the right time as well, you know, because 438 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,839 it wasn't just the ideas. They had to have the right people behind the 439 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,039 voice as well, you know, to make it work. Oh yeah, 440 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,720 yeah, and Raiders and the Raiders producers, animators. Yeah, no doubt 441 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,759 about it. You know, I've read online apparently apparently Darkwing Dark the Show 442 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,680 was a last minute replacement for was originally going to be a proposed reboot of 443 00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:53,160 the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show. But apparently Disney didn't have the rights to the 444 00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:56,599 characters. They only had the home video rights. So they went, okay, 445 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,279 scrap that plan. It's something different. That's where the idea for dark 446 00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:07,359 Green Duck was actually born. Wow that I didn't know. Yeah, well, 447 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,559 Rocky and ballwinkl were there were no Disney, no no, but because 448 00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:15,039 Disney owned the rights of the home video the home video, so they just 449 00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:19,160 assumed they owned the rights to the characters, but they didn't once they did 450 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,119 some research and wait a minute, we own the home video rights for Rocky 451 00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:23,880 and Bullwinkle, but not the rights to go and make new episodes of the 452 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:30,279 of the show. Gee, Ruggy, Okay, well I don't know what 453 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,039 to say. Yeah, but we bull a rebbit out of my head. 454 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,519 I could do a terrible Bullwinkle for you. Yeah, but I blessed Jude 455 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,920 And you're saying you're saying it early about the inspiration for the dark Green character. 456 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,039 Apparently it was also inspired by There was two episodes of Duck Tales and 457 00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:51,720 it was called Double O Duck starring launched Pad mcquack as a secret agent, 458 00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:55,359 and an episode called them the Mass Mellard with Scrooge McDuck became a mass vigilante 459 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,279 superhero wearing a purple uniform and a cape, and they kind of cane the 460 00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:02,359 two aliments together. That's sort of another idea of where the dark Wing Duck 461 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:07,559 was. Where Tagg the inspiration for dark Win Duck as well. M Oh 462 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,440 yeah, yeah, definitely the scarlet pimpernel was in there. And I don't 463 00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:17,400 know that launch Pad was ever going to be the hero. I mean, 464 00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:21,640 I think he's born to be a sidekick. Well, in the original idea, 465 00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:23,680 he actually was. So the original premise was going to be called it 466 00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:27,680 was going to be called Double Low Duck, where he would be like a 467 00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:31,920 James Bond esque hero agent to be launched Pad mcquack, and he was going 468 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,680 to be that, but it turns out again due to copyright, they didn't 469 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:42,720 own the rights to the term double that. Yeah, I didn't know that. 470 00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:46,200 I didn't know the product that it was designed for, launch Pad launch 471 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,480 Pad was going to be Double Low Duck that was going to be launched Pad 472 00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:52,400 mcquack. And then when when that failed, Tad was then tasked with the 473 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,400 idea right come up with a new hero, Dark Wing Duck was born and 474 00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:00,400 that's where it all happened, and he thought launched. I was still going 475 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,640 to include launch Pad, but we'll include him as the sidekick for dark Wing, 476 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,159 and that's duck Wing. Duck was borne. Wow you heard it here, 477 00:34:07,199 --> 00:34:09,639 folks. So it just sounds like back in the day, Disney just 478 00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:14,800 didn't know what they owned and what they didn't. Yeah. Yeah, well 479 00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:19,159 I remember double o Duck. I remember that coming up. Yeah, that 480 00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:25,400 did not fly. And Robot Duck was another one, Robot Duck. Okay, 481 00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:34,880 yeah, and that was robot not robot Duck. Oh gosh, it 482 00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:40,719 was Hamilton's. It was his character, that Robot Duck when he and he 483 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,719 had a wheel and he was Gizmo Duck. What's it? Yeah, yeah, 484 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,880 gizmo. Yeah. They had the same problem, I guess. So 485 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,920 it was going to be originally called like a robot Duck kind of thing. 486 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,719 Okay, that robot Duck. Yeah wow, Okay, there you go. 487 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,360 Here. At the fourthing of this SCAT Network, we produced over twenty hours 488 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,480 of podcasts each month, covering the greatest shows of the nineties, including The 489 00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:08,599 Simpsons, South Park, King of the Hill, Cyfeld Friends, Futurama, 490 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,280 and so much more so. If you're in the mood for a good old 491 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,079 dose nostalgia in your ears each week, check out all the shows available right 492 00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:19,599 now on the four Finger Discount Network. Links are in the description of this 493 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,880 podcast with the dark Wing name though, Do you ever know what the inspiration 494 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,960 for the name Darkwing came from? Just because it sounds like a cool superhero, 495 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,280 is it? No? I was never Privy Diner, so it was 496 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,320 already called Darkwing, but I thought it was pretty cool. Yeah, oh 497 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,519 yeah, yeah, and I thought it was a damn fine name. King 498 00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:45,719 Duck absolutely, yeah, you know, anything dark is good. How was 499 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,599 he originally pitched to you? So when you're creating the voice, what did 500 00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:51,559 they say to you? What did they say they wanted? Then? What 501 00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:54,679 did you bring yourself as well? Well, you know it was it always 502 00:35:54,719 --> 00:36:00,079 had a slate batman aspect to it, a slate scarlet peppernel aspect to it, 503 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:06,800 and you know, then they threw into single Dad, you know, 504 00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:14,480 which kind of gave him a whole new dimension and uh great, yeah, 505 00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:19,480 oh I know, and uh and of course she she eventually you know, 506 00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:23,920 Goslin, Uh, Chrissy Kavanaugh got rest her soul and eg Daily took over 507 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:30,159 the role of the Great eg Daily magnificently. But she was quiver Wing Quack 508 00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:36,039 and she you know, had her little bow and arrow with suction cup arrows 509 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,440 on it, and it was great and and it was a really cool addition. 510 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,239 And she would show up on Dark Wings missions and it was like, 511 00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:47,159 oh God, no, I have to protect my daughter and get the bad 512 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,800 guy. You know. So it was crazy. So she she was a 513 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:57,280 real interesting curveball. It was kind of brilliant. You know, Okay, 514 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,400 your daughter is going to show up. Wait what I'm fighting crime? No, 515 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,960 get home and do your homework. Oh do the dishes too, you 516 00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:10,400 know. So it was it was really interesting and I think it added a 517 00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:15,960 whole new layer. It was wonderful because a lot of those shows they had 518 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,480 that buddy aspect, didn't they Like we touched on Tailspin during our commentary recently, 519 00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:22,760 where you know, Blue and Kick Cloud Kicking and things like that, 520 00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:25,440 and Mowgli and Blue as well. But others thought was so interesting to have 521 00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:30,360 this this superhero being a single father of a daughter. It was very It 522 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,639 was just I don't think it had really been done before I had it. 523 00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:37,599 Uh on a Disney show anyway. Yeah, no, no, has it 524 00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:42,559 been done since? I can't think of another one? It probably has, 525 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,639 but nothing springs to mind. But look, was that was that element to 526 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,800 his character? Was that? Were you aware of that when you first went 527 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,840 for the role? Was that something they added in later on? Were you 528 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,320 where he was going to be a single father? Well? Yeah, yeah 529 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,400 from day one? Yeah, because such an interesting you know, I had 530 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,239 two daughters, Yeah, and I my daughter, Olivia is the oldest, 531 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:10,239 and she got called Goslin at school. Really and you would that, yeah, 532 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,239 you would think. So I said, come on, is that that 533 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,840 patch? Because it's a busy dad. I said, no, it's not 534 00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:23,760 you. You're wondering your dad's dark wink duck. Shut up. You're welcome, 535 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,440 you know. I mean, it's like you know, and I can 536 00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:35,719 remember, you know, answering the phone, answering the door for Halloween and 537 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,960 the little kids were there trick or treat and I put the stuff in there, 538 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,199 you know, the candy in there in their little bags there and these 539 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,400 I remember these two little boys that were like seven and nine, and they're 540 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:52,559 sitting there looking around the house, and I said, is there anything else 541 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:58,519 I can do for you? Well? Does dark Wink Duck live here for 542 00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:02,239 reels. I said, yes he does, but he's out. He's out 543 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:07,719 now protecting, protecting, you know, the Santa Rosa Valley from uh, 544 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,320 you know, bad guys. And he goes and the little guy goes up 545 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,280 to his brother goes, I told you, you, stupid booger. I 546 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:19,960 told you he lived here, you know, and I would just bust it 547 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:24,280 up. And we gave him like all the candy and thanks, and I 548 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:31,039 said stay dangerous and then went, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, 549 00:39:31,199 --> 00:39:35,320 I hate dark ring. Yeah. Oh man, did you ever dress 550 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,400 up for Halloween as the characters you voiced? Are you a Halloween kind of 551 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,960 guy? I am a Halloween kind of guy, but no, No. 552 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,480 Peggy and I had the closest. Peggy and I did an amazing It was 553 00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:54,320 a wedding of of what skeletons like maybe five or six years ago, remember 554 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,800 that. It was awesome. And we put it all over the lawn and 555 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,360 we went all out. She went and got all these these sort of purple 556 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:07,559 uh lights that that kind of day glow and everything. It was a wedding 557 00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:13,360 complete with white chairs, people sitting in the audience, Grandpa sitting there sleep 558 00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:17,440 and they're all skeletons, and it was awesome. And Jim having that Jim 559 00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:21,960 had like a speaker system set up so he would do voices as trick or 560 00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:25,039 treaters were coming up, Yes, and he would do like some spooky voices 561 00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:28,920 or character voices or whatever. And people got such a kick out of it. 562 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,199 I swear there was a line like halfway around the block. Yeah, 563 00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:35,800 yeah, just to come up and get some M and m's from us. 564 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,599 They Jim's house. So then it was Jim doing the voice. I don't 565 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:43,000 I don't know. I don't know that some people might have known some somewhere, 566 00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:46,599 yeah, yeah, but I mean it was it was not your your 567 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:52,559 your uncle's Halloween house, that's for sure. What are some of you Halloween 568 00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:57,039 movies or specials or things like that, because you're if you're a Halloween guy, 569 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,880 I love a good Halloween TV special. Look, do you have anything? 570 00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:04,119 And it springs to borrow boy, So do I you know? The 571 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:09,119 original Halloween was interesting? Yeah, you know, Jamie Lee and the gang 572 00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:15,039 there. And I'm not a big fan of just slasher splasher, you know, 573 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:20,719 blah blah blah. You know, I really like it's like when it 574 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,039 comes to movies like that. I mean, the Exorcist is way up there, 575 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,760 and it was all cerebral. It was all you know in your head, 576 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,800 and and it wasn't like boo you know, the boogey Man jumps out 577 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:37,119 of the closet or what have you. But you know, I those the 578 00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:42,039 kind of the kind of movies that I like. What about The Nightmare Before 579 00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:45,719 Christmas? That's one of my favorites, Like that was a hell of a 580 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,760 good movie. I like that movie because you can watch it twice. You 581 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,519 can watch it for Halloween and Christmas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're 582 00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:54,000 right, that's double up on it. Or if you like me, I 583 00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:58,920 just watch them up at Christmas Carol whenever I feel like it. So yeah, 584 00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:05,719 that's you're a Halloween guy, which means that we can do a tuned 585 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,360 in Halloween special in a month or so. Oh, I'm sure I'll do 586 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:19,320 some homework and see see what I've gotten my memory voices. Yes, beware 587 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:25,519 of he chhaking strangers. You mentioned, you mentioned Christine. You mentioned Christine 588 00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:29,400 before Goslin. Let's get back to Goslin. Christine. Well, let's talk 589 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,800 about working with Christine because she, you know, for those underwhere She also 590 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,000 played like Chucky Kinster and Ruggrass. She was Babe, she was Dexter and 591 00:42:36,039 --> 00:42:38,400 Dexter's Labatory, but she was Goslin in the show. So let's talk about 592 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,360 your favorite memories of working with Christine. Oh my god, she was. 593 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,199 She was just a gem. She was I'm trying to think she might have 594 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,440 been from Utah. She was from a small town, small town girl. 595 00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:58,639 She brought all of that. Yeah, she Christine Kavanaugh. She brought all 596 00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:01,039 of that sort of wide I had innocence to it, and I think it 597 00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:05,920 sparkled through in the character, and I, you know, it was she 598 00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:10,519 was just a doll. I was crazy about her, and you know, 599 00:43:10,639 --> 00:43:15,719 we were we were all just so lucky to have her. And she was 600 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,960 just a bright, shining light. And she, you know, she would 601 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:25,039 occasionally, you know, sneak something by Jenny, our director, and we 602 00:43:25,199 --> 00:43:28,679 thought she was doing it on purpose, and then Jenny Wine here it and 603 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,960 she goes, no, that's that's She said, Uh, well, I 604 00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:35,599 could tell you one thing. I'm not going to be going after some guy 605 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:40,719 with a maniacal laugh and and I guess the preferred pronunciation is maniacal laugh. 606 00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:45,679 But she said maniacal and we all just died, you know. And and 607 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,000 it was it was just perfect. And she had that kind of pure sense 608 00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:53,480 of putting it out there. And she she had no she wasn't worried about 609 00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:58,119 looking oops, like I mispronounced something. Nope, Nope, it was it 610 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,159 was It was her instinct. And you know, I've got an expression instincts, 611 00:44:01,159 --> 00:44:07,000 so the best thinks. And and she was just pure and she was 612 00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:13,440 And I think that's what really came across in Babe too, you know, 613 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:19,639 it was that sweet heart of hers that came through what character she played? 614 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,320 What's that? Which one? We were just trying to confirm which characters she 615 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,760 played? I got her IMDb up here. Where is she from? Utah? 616 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,559 Christine? Oh, where is she from? I thought there was like 617 00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:36,719 Wyoming she was? Where was she from? Chris is looking up now for 618 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:42,559 us? It just says she wasn't just says American. Yeah. We unfortunately 619 00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:45,400 lost her several years ago, which is just a tragedy. Such a young 620 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:52,280 a. Yeah from Layton, Utah, Utah. There you go, there 621 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,800 you go. But yeah, I love that. I love that, you 622 00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:59,440 know, she would deliberately mispronounce words because that just made it so much more 623 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,599 relatables a kid because it you'd watch her and when she's playing a kid, 624 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,599 you felt like you were watching a kid playing the role because the kid would 625 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,079 a kid would pronounce words incorrectly, you know, by accident. She just 626 00:45:10,199 --> 00:45:13,719 knew to do that. That's that's just It's genius, really, isn't it. 627 00:45:14,559 --> 00:45:17,360 Yeah? Right, it wasn't a fox pass. It was you know, 628 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,840 it was it was true it Did anyone else improvise? Or was it? 629 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,280 That? Is that mainly your stick? You know? But I guess 630 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,400 that is improvising in a different way. It's it's reading words differently. But 631 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,320 did anyone else improvise on the shows that you worked, like, particularly Dark 632 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,440 Wing Duck? Did anyone else improvise? Was it okay and improvise off? 633 00:45:32,559 --> 00:45:36,079 Or was it just let Jim do his thing and we'll work around it. 634 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,400 Yeah? While I was the worst or best depending on your opinion, Uh, 635 00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:46,599 you know, and gosh, I don't know, eighty eight percent seventy 636 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:52,639 percent of the time we didn't have everybody there, like for instance, I 637 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,280 can I can tell you this. You know, Darkwing Duck and launch Pad 638 00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:01,360 mcquack. Yeah, that's the team, right, We did one show at 639 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:07,280 the same time. Wow, you and Terry did a show. Terry and 640 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:13,039 a we did a show. Out of one hundred and nine I don't even 641 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,000 know how many there are the interweb, the interwebs, ninety two episodes I 642 00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:19,519 believe of the show. Yeah, is that what it was? Yeah, 643 00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:24,039 Well, we did a show together, that's it. I wonder if, 644 00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:27,639 knowing that, because you know, we've discussed bonkers in the past, how 645 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,440 you know you were able to sort of create this real life conversation because you 646 00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:36,039 were in the same with yourself essentially right where and you've always myself, You're 647 00:46:36,119 --> 00:46:39,519 always you know, the conversations when the people in the room always feel more 648 00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:43,760 natural because you can bounce off of the energy. I wonder, knowing that 649 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,719 you weren't in the same room of Terry, if you go back and watch 650 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,840 the show now, whether you can sense a difference in the chemistry compared to 651 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,000 that of a bonker's. I wonder if you can. I'm not sure you 652 00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:57,599 don't reckon And no I don't because I have thought that you know, and 653 00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:01,039 and you know, I'll occasionally, you know, late night, I'll be 654 00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:02,840 sitting there and I go, all right, I don't want to dark Wing, 655 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,320 you know, just because it's on Disney. Plus it's an easy evil 656 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,880 and and it's like a nice It's like revisiting an old friend, you know, 657 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,280 stop by something, stopping by somebody's house that you haven't seen in a 658 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,119 while. And uh, and I get a kick out of it. I 659 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,039 do. I mean, it's like, like I say, visiting an old 660 00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:25,719 friend. So I don't. It doesn't it. It doesn't bother me. 661 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,760 It doesn't. It's not like, oh man, I should have this or 662 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,559 should have that, should have you know, because I believe I don't leave 663 00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:39,280 anything in the locker room. I bring it all, you know, I 664 00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:47,840 I treat everything. Every single session is the super Bowl for me. I 665 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:52,639 don't know any other way. Yeah, I mean, regardless, Yeah, 666 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,440 it just doesn't matter. It has to be that way. So when you 667 00:47:57,519 --> 00:47:59,800 go back and watch those old shows, like I said, Late Night you 668 00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:01,159 on a dark Queen, does it make you want to pick up the phone 669 00:48:01,159 --> 00:48:05,159 and just give Terry a cole? Did you get nostalgic like that for it? 670 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,519 Uh? Yeah, Well I haven't seen him in a couple of years, 671 00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:13,840 but it's always great to see him, you know. And you know, 672 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,079 we have a pretty good Bond, you know, he and Katie Lee 673 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:22,719 and you know the various people that are you know, God blessed still Yeah, 674 00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:28,000 sure, yeah, yeah, I haven't seen Dan in a few years. 675 00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:30,599 But but yeah, obviously, so he played your psychic So yeah, 676 00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:34,519 that's that's incredible to think that. So why was that? Was it just 677 00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:37,440 he lived in different cities? Like why was Terry not around to be in 678 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,679 the studio? Yeah, he actually had a radio show and Rancisco, so 679 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:46,679 he couldn't morning I think it was Morning Drive, And it was literally kind 680 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,599 of impossible to get him here. You know, We're doing a show at 681 00:48:51,639 --> 00:48:55,559 two in the afternoon and he gets off the air at one you know something, 682 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,840 you know, you know what I mean, something like that, and 683 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,440 it just it was n We just couldn't didn't work. So was it a 684 00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:07,800 case of you're a voice actor? Right first and foremost? Was Terry Moore 685 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:13,000 a radio guy who did some voice acting. That sounds about right. Yeah, 686 00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:15,760 that's saying it's a bad thing, but you know, like your your 687 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,920 job was voice actor. No, no, no, no, there was 688 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:22,239 certainly nothing bad about it, that's that's for sure. But yeah, that 689 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,840 I would buy that. That sounds about right for people who may not know 690 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,000 who Terry is. Besides launch Pad for me, I was remember who as 691 00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:32,960 the guy who yells at Robin Williams at the beginning of Missus Doubt Fire. 692 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,639 Have you seen Missus Doubtfire? Oh you're sure? Yeah? So in the 693 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,920 opening scene, Chris, you've seen Missus Doubt for I'm assuming Chris, yeah, 694 00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:45,000 yeah. In the opening scene where Daniel play with Robin Williams is improvising 695 00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:49,679 the bird coughing on the cigarette and he's saying we can't have a children's cartoon 696 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,639 promoting smoking, blah blah blah, and the director says, Daniel, you 697 00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:54,079 know what are you doing? You've got to say what's on the in the 698 00:49:54,159 --> 00:49:58,800 script? Well, that's Terry MC. That's Terry telling off Robin Williams in 699 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,480 the opening scene. Now Missus Doubt Fire. M well, someone had to 700 00:50:01,519 --> 00:50:05,440 straighten him marked. Did you have moments like that? Though, like he 701 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,119 Missus Doubtfight, there he's he's not unimpressed with what the character is doing for 702 00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:14,119 a kids show. Did you ever have moments where you went this character wouldn't 703 00:50:14,119 --> 00:50:16,159 do this or b should we really be doing this on a kids show? 704 00:50:16,199 --> 00:50:20,159 Did you have a moment where you sort of questioned what was being put out 705 00:50:20,159 --> 00:50:23,440 the what you're being what was being asked of you? Well, I told 706 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:28,519 you the sucker ass evil doer line, right, I mean we've covered that, 707 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,159 right, so yeah, yeah, okay, no, but this thing 708 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,000 between like like trying to sneak in a little naughty weight here and there, 709 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,400 but like, you know, promoting smoking, for example, like things like 710 00:50:37,519 --> 00:50:40,400 that, where's the line for you? You know? No, while there 711 00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:46,559 was certainly nothing even remotely close to smoking when you have Disney over you, 712 00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:50,679 I have every cigarette I've ever smoked in my life. It may yeah, 713 00:50:51,199 --> 00:50:54,960 yeah, that's that's how many I've smoked. And you know, because I 714 00:50:55,079 --> 00:51:00,519 always knew, and it's not that I'm particularly virtuous. I just thought it 715 00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:04,840 stunk. Yeah, I just thought my dad smoke, God rest his soul. 716 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,400 And I know, okay, that stinks. Why are you doing that 717 00:51:07,519 --> 00:51:10,840 again? You know, how much fun could it be? It stinks, 718 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:17,920 you know, so very childish, but I'm sure better for my health overall. 719 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,079 But what was the question, Sorry, it was just about did you 720 00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:25,760 have did you have a moment where you went I'm not so sure about this 721 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,199 being in a kid's show, but obviously Disney, Disney as your overseers. 722 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,840 I'm pretty sure Disney would have made sure nothing that they got through anyway, 723 00:51:34,039 --> 00:51:38,400 Yeah, yeah, you know. I Uh. In fact, I I 724 00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:42,440 have to say there were there were certain certain little shorts that I've done for 725 00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:49,039 Disney over the years. And don't tell anybody this, but there were there 726 00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:54,079 was a thing called, oh Gosh to Disney blah blah blah. Anyway, 727 00:51:54,119 --> 00:52:00,920 it was these two coyotes or whatever, and they there was they were trying 728 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:06,920 to just discover who's who's who dropped this box or who who wasn't And oh, 729 00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:08,000 we went back, wait did you drop this early? And no, 730 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:13,239 and I said, well it ain't mine. It must be Urine. The 731 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:19,599 your story, Yeah, the Urine story. And and and they they they 732 00:52:19,679 --> 00:52:23,079 went to production, they went, they went all the way through and it 733 00:52:23,199 --> 00:52:27,760 was this close to airing and they go, wait a minute, did you 734 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:32,119 say urine? And I said I might, did you know? And uh 735 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,679 And they go, well, you can't say urine. And I said, 736 00:52:36,679 --> 00:52:39,599 well, it was kind of like saying yours, but he's a hillbilly. 737 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,440 And they go, okay, well then say yours. And I'm going all 738 00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:46,920 right, fine, So I went all right, it ain't mine, it 739 00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:52,880 must be yours, and so they won. You know, I tried to 740 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:59,119 get Urine in America. Sorry, Canada, we we all you know, 741 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,320 what can I say? Jesus? I want to talk about the villains of 742 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,639 Dark Quen Duck because there are a lot of them, A lot of people 743 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,679 have. It's kind of like Ninja Turtles now Ninja Turtles. We discussed last 744 00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:10,480 week how they've got all these villains that might appear one or two episodes or 745 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,320 people just they hang on to them, but they just they love the villains 746 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,239 of Dark Quen duckfot is so memorable. But the key ones were like Mega 747 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,519 volt. Let's talk about Mega Voult. Dan Castellanetta, right, oh yeah. 748 00:53:21,679 --> 00:53:23,440 Obviously he was working on The Simpsons at the same time, because the 749 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,480 Simpsons started an eighty nine. Yeah I think they had started yeah yeah, 750 00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:30,760 yeah, so when I understand they did well with it. Yeah yeah, 751 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,519 I think it's still going. Actually I think it sims to maybe so yeah, 752 00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:37,519 a little bit. So when Dan comes in, So did you work 753 00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:40,960 in the studio with Dan or was he remote as well? No, No, 754 00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:45,719 we're there. You know, everybody that lived around Eli, you know, 755 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,000 we don't come into the studio. So what tell us about this? 756 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,880 Obviously I'm a huge Simpsons fan. You know, I'll meet up this podcast. 757 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,719 So what's it like? I'm a huge dand fan. He's a great 758 00:53:54,800 --> 00:54:00,679 guy, funny as hell, you know, and we did Tears Me Together 759 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:05,760 too, and Earth were in gym together too. Uh So he's uh, 760 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,639 you know, I mean he's so gifted, he's Ah. It was interesting 761 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:17,800 because he did Mega Volt was a combination of Gene Wilder and a little bit 762 00:54:19,079 --> 00:54:22,880 of God, I can't I can't really put my finger on it, but 763 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:29,360 Charles Nelson Riley maybe, but it was, Oh, that is so like 764 00:54:29,679 --> 00:54:36,039 you you know he uh, it was just a takeoff on mostly Gene Wilder, 765 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,880 and I thought it was brilliant because he was so frustrated. Like if 766 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:45,000 you saw the producers, the original producers was Zero Mastelle and Jeane Wilder. 767 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:50,840 You know. He uh, Jean's character needed his blanket and he had to 768 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,400 have a blanket, you know, And and Dan kind of brought that urgency, 769 00:54:55,559 --> 00:55:00,039 that need neediness to the character and it was really cool as hell. 770 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:07,440 It was funny as hell, and you know, the two personalities played off 771 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,800 against each other, so well, you know, and he's he's the man, 772 00:55:12,679 --> 00:55:15,000 but the talented that has brought such an energy to these to these Disney 773 00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:19,480 shows. Like we were discussing Ninja Turtles last week, could you sense the 774 00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:22,599 difference between making a Ninja Turtle show and these Disney shows? Because Ninja Turtles 775 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:27,000 like that, you know, it was a hit, but you know you're 776 00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:30,840 saying bonga and things like that, where this one felt like you were making 777 00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:35,119 a show for adults right when you're making Dark when Duck. Yeah, no, 778 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,199 I agree, Yeah, it was very much so. You know, 779 00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:42,840 in fact, we prided ourselves on that, on being able to entertain mom 780 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,719 and dad and the kids. Yep, you know that that had that was 781 00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:52,320 literally in the Bible, you know, so you know, I'm glad it 782 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:58,360 worked. Is that Where is that where the desire to improvise stemmed from wanting 783 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,480 to make sure that's or is it just is it just who you are? 784 00:56:01,519 --> 00:56:05,400 Yeah? It's just who I am? Yeah, because Dan Dan's very is 785 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,840 great improvising as well, isn't it. Oh god, yeah, yeah, 786 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:13,719 he was great and he was on you know the Tasmania show. He was 787 00:56:14,679 --> 00:56:17,800 you know, he played any number of characters in that show. And uh, 788 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,000 he's just a karmic genius, you know, and a voice artist, 789 00:56:23,679 --> 00:56:28,320 so you know, more power to him. Need to getting hooked up on 790 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,119 some seasons gigs. Yeah, yeah, I did a Simpsons. Yeah you 791 00:56:32,199 --> 00:56:36,920 did that. You are a horse. I was a horse. That's where 792 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:42,039 we originally, you know, that's where it all started talking about. But 793 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:46,639 also Michael Bell he played quacker Jack and Tino he played bush Root. Already 794 00:56:46,639 --> 00:56:50,400 discussed bush Root when we did that commentary. But you know, you know, 795 00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:53,599 Jack Angel and Tim carry already covered. It's just incredible, an incredible 796 00:56:53,679 --> 00:56:58,840 roster of talent. Oh god. Yeah. Yeah, Well Michael's a good 797 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,599 buddy and I'll see him every now and then it conventions. Yeah and uh 798 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:07,239 and he's still going strong and yeah, very very true. Quacker Jack was 799 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,800 one of my favorites. Yeah, because he was going to ask you what 800 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,559 were some of your favorite what was some of your favorite villains? Like can 801 00:57:12,599 --> 00:57:15,639 you remember the sides of the villains? Sure? Yeah, I mean well 802 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:22,000 Tim Curry very much, so Taras Bulba, and you know, I have 803 00:57:22,039 --> 00:57:27,159 a soft soft spot for Tino and Sanna. You know, he was kind 804 00:57:27,199 --> 00:57:30,639 of had a John Candy vibe to him, you know, which is a 805 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,280 beautiful guy, and I mean, gosh, bush Root, you know. 806 00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:39,480 Uh, And and don't forget I was my worst enemy. Yes, I 807 00:57:39,639 --> 00:57:45,960 was Nega Duck. Yeah, so yeah, Nega Duck. You know. 808 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:51,760 It was kind of like dark Wing with a bass amplifier on his on his 809 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,440 voice. I guess at a lot of talks played a bit how you played 810 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,360 the two main roles in Bonkers, but you know you were the hero and 811 00:57:58,679 --> 00:58:05,599 the villain in dark Wing Duck as well, Yeah, that's the hero. 812 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,679 How fun was that a lot of fun? Because I could play well, 813 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:15,559 I always knew what I was going to say as the other guy, and 814 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:21,239 so I could pre pre established what how pissed off I was going to be 815 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,639 or how righteous I was going to be, And you know it was great. 816 00:58:25,679 --> 00:58:29,800 You know I knew what was coming because it was coming from me. 817 00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:35,119 Did you used to say, is what you did with with Lucky and Bonkers? 818 00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:37,559 You would pre record it and then talk over the top. No, 819 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:42,360 actually no, on that one, I didn't. And uh, dark Wing 820 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,119 came before, I believe, so yeah, you know, it hadn't even 821 00:58:45,519 --> 00:58:50,079 hadn't even occurred to me to do that. And it's not like they were 822 00:58:50,639 --> 00:58:54,039 partners, you know, the way Lucky and Bonkers were, you know they 823 00:58:54,119 --> 00:59:04,119 were occasionally you know, Nega Duck was occasionally in there and so and if 824 00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:13,840 anybody could tell me which cartoon comic book character Negaduc's color scheme for his uniform 825 00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:19,400 was, I think they should send it in and tell us, yes, 826 00:59:19,719 --> 00:59:27,320 who where have you seen this color scheme before? In which comic book character? 827 00:59:28,719 --> 00:59:30,840 The first person ads correctly, Jim, we'll give you a shout out 828 00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:34,840 on the next podcast. What do you recommend that? How about that? 829 00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:37,599 Yeah, Jim Cummings Podcast, your listeners. The first person to send it 830 00:59:37,679 --> 00:59:42,000 incorrectly, we'll get their name right out on the next week's podcast by Jim 831 00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:45,719 himself. Yes, that's right now, speaking of very famous. It's a 832 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,719 good segue. Jim. You just thank you for setting me up there. 833 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,559 You've got some names on the paper in front of you. Because we've got 834 00:59:51,639 --> 00:59:54,880 some amazing supporters on the tune the Patreon channel, and these guys they can 835 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,519 they contribute to the Patreon and they get accessed early and add free access to 836 00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:04,960 this show plus also access to our bonus podcast called Cummings Commentaries, where each 837 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,800 month we go back and we do an audio commentary on a classic Disney animated 838 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:12,159 series, whether it be Tailspin or Bonkers or Dark Green Duck, and even 839 01:00:12,239 --> 01:00:15,199 the characters themselves make a guest appearance if Jim voice them, of course, 840 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,159 But Jim, let's do some shout outs to people who have been so generous 841 01:00:17,159 --> 01:00:21,599 to support us on Patreon so far? Are right? Are you ready? 842 01:00:22,519 --> 01:00:28,480 Are you ready? Will Gunt, Amy O'Neill, Michael King, Mark, 843 01:00:28,679 --> 01:00:36,400 Matt Ooh, how about Matt Cartelly and Gregory Montoya and the world famous cossover. 844 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:44,440 Oh, sounds like a villain, Dante m Nicky Bloom, Nico Tunes, 845 01:00:45,199 --> 01:00:51,199 Vince b Yvon Paradise. Oh, that's a nice name, Gaudy, 846 01:00:51,920 --> 01:01:00,760 Damon Damon, Yes, Damon t Chuck t chow mm the sorry about that 847 01:01:01,239 --> 01:01:07,239 pronouncing it correctly? The squank? How about Disney Captain thirty? How about 848 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:14,360 Andrew Brady, Jesse Locke, Jordan Haley, Dane, Martin, Michael Natally, 849 01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:21,719 Nick Dane m mc dyne. There we go, Tim English, Thank 850 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:27,000 you Tim for having a really easily pronounceable name. John schaff and let's not 851 01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:35,079 forget Bry. How about Kat's Katie gee mm and Nazarene Ooh, Nazarnin. 852 01:01:35,239 --> 01:01:37,239 How about Nazaar Nin. There you go, Jed, thank you for an 853 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:45,039 easy name, Jed and Nancy Foote e j Paladin Ooh sounds like a villain. 854 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,400 There you go. Guys. So, if you want to get your 855 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,800 name it out on the show by Jim, you're just gonna be a supporter 856 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,199 of ours on Patreon. You can find a link for that in the description 857 01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:55,119 of either of this video. If you're watching us on YouTube or this podcast 858 01:01:55,320 --> 01:02:00,400 is just patreon dot com slash Jim Cummings Podcast and yes, for five dollars 859 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:04,199 or more per month to get access to the bonus podcast, get access to 860 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,119 prize draws where you can win a sign photo from Jim or a video message 861 01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:09,840 from Jim, and so much more. So Yeah, support us now on 862 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:14,679 Patreon and help this little podcast empire grow. But yes, thank you for 863 01:02:14,719 --> 01:02:15,519 reading out that names. It's funny, Chris. I was looking at you 864 01:02:15,559 --> 01:02:17,960 when Jim was renee the names, and I'm thinking, when I was putting 865 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,960 this list together for him, I like, do I write this that phonetically 866 01:02:21,039 --> 01:02:24,800 or do I do I create a challenge for him? Yes, the challenge. 867 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,960 It was a challenge and I did it with that I did it without 868 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,039 most spectacles. Yeah, you did it great, Probably did not did not 869 01:02:32,239 --> 01:02:35,719 help. It's what's funny is the ones I thought you would mess up, 870 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,760 you didn't, and the easy ones some of them you did. I was 871 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:42,280 like, okay, whatever, ye like, who is this Joe Smith Smith? 872 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:47,239 No, that can't be raped, genuine Jed. No one's name Jed. 873 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:52,360 Oh wait, mister Claimpett Sorry yes, yeah, Well, thank you 874 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,639 everybody, God bless Yeah, thank you so much for all of your support 875 01:02:54,719 --> 01:02:58,519 so far. Now, we've had a lot of questions come through on a 876 01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:00,800 social media so what we did with thought of an idea rather than just taggle 877 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,920 a bunch of questions. At the end of this podcast, we're going to 878 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,960 do a special Dark Queen Duck specific mailbag podcast because there's so many questions coming 879 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,800 through, over two hundred questions coming through, so we have to go through 880 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:15,320 them all and pick out the best ones and I make sure there's no repeats, 881 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,920 and we'll be the answering that on the next podcasts Bonus Extra podcast I've 882 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,800 tuned in this week, so make sure you look out for that in your 883 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,599 feeds. If you do post a question on the social media before we go, 884 01:03:23,679 --> 01:03:25,320 though, Jim, A couple of things I want to touch on. 885 01:03:25,559 --> 01:03:31,239 So people did ask about about They wanted your thoughts on the Duck Tails reboot 886 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:37,039 that included Darkwing Duck, which you weren't the voice of right, So what 887 01:03:37,159 --> 01:03:38,800 were your thoughts on Did you see it? Did you see dark Queen Duck 888 01:03:39,199 --> 01:03:42,760 reappearing on? Well? I wasn't. I wasn't I was. I think 889 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,320 it was Greg Mallard. Yeah, you know, people have asked me about 890 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:52,320 that before. My problem was I couldn't quite the storyline didn't really work for 891 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:58,360 me. I hope no one heard that. Just kidding, I help everyone 892 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:03,239 heard that, But no, it was interesting. You know, it's I 893 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:12,079 don't know how you how you do a reboot that doesn't reboot. It's pretty 894 01:04:12,159 --> 01:04:15,159 much that simple. Although I guess that's not really a reboot. It was 895 01:04:15,239 --> 01:04:19,639 an homage. It was a I'm not a hundred percent sure a new audience, 896 01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:25,760 Yeah, for a new audience. And you know what's interesting is, 897 01:04:27,639 --> 01:04:30,360 you know, I think I might have said this before, h With certain 898 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:40,599 of my characters Darkwing, uh first among them, I improvised so much that 899 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:48,360 I'm not a hundred percent sure that you know, writing for a character that 900 01:04:48,519 --> 01:04:54,760 no one has written for except the guy doing it is all that easy, 901 01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:00,159 you know, so you know the writer what you do. Yeah, yeah, 902 01:05:00,559 --> 01:05:04,239 well, you know, a lot of the writers, they they were 903 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:08,679 grateful. They were like, oh man, I didn't know I wrote that 904 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:13,960 well, and it was just because I always do everything is written and like 905 01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:15,639 I said before, and then I'll just do one as as a lark. 906 01:05:16,239 --> 01:05:19,400 And a lot of times they used the lark because it's a little more whimsical. 907 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:23,800 That's in the moment, and you know, and I'm very grateful, 908 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,039 you know, I don't I don't make bones about it. I'm not you 909 01:05:28,119 --> 01:05:31,400 know, saying I'm Shakespeare, that's for sure. But Christmas, I don't 910 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,800 know. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, there you go. That's 911 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:40,639 right. Yeah. But a lot of people as rumors everywhere online. It's 912 01:05:40,639 --> 01:05:43,360 been gone for a long time to have they're getting more and more hated lately. 913 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,480 A Dark Green Duck reboot. Apparently you got any news on that? 914 01:05:50,239 --> 01:05:59,480 Stay tuned two ohs, I didn't hear any. Yeah that kind of yeah, 915 01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:02,440 you know, if it happens, I will be there, I really 916 01:06:02,519 --> 01:06:08,400 hope. Unless they get you know, Joe Smith to do it. Can 917 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:13,360 you imagine they still Dark Quen Duck reboot and didn't include the original dark Quen 918 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:18,119 Duck. I'm pretty sure the hashtag Twitter fanfare would not be impressed. Yeah, 919 01:06:18,599 --> 01:06:23,639 yeah, oh yeah, yeah, public outcry to bring Jim back. 920 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,599 That this is the thing, you know, the character has been so beloved 921 01:06:27,679 --> 01:06:32,159 for thirty years as one person. Why change it? Why? Why would 922 01:06:32,199 --> 01:06:36,880 you change it? Now? You wouldn't be madness. Yeah. And if 923 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:41,280 you're going said and if you're going to continue the show on, I hope 924 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:45,320 it's not a reimagining, you know what they want to reboot, continue the 925 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,960 show on. But the show is now readily available on Disney Plus. Just 926 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,360 just continue the show on as it was, don't change it, just keep 927 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:55,320 it going. That's that's what people want. If people are enjoying Dark Quen, 928 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,119 that's the point where you think it's worth doing more, then just do 929 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,920 more. Remake it. Yeah, No, I agree with you. I 930 01:07:03,039 --> 01:07:08,840 agree with you. Yeah. And we're all still around, We're all we're 931 01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:13,119 still here, live and kicking, you know, Katie Lee E. G. 932 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,000 Daley, who I'm going to be speaking with in in a few minutes. 933 01:07:16,679 --> 01:07:23,000 Terry mcgoverns and ready to kick but let's make it happen. All the 934 01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:25,559 people behind that show. You know who you are, we know you're listening. 935 01:07:25,719 --> 01:07:28,519 Make it who you are now. Of course, there's plenty of other 936 01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:30,199 things we could cover here with dark En Duck, whether it be the video 937 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,639 games, which I know you love talking about, Jim, the comic books 938 01:07:33,639 --> 01:07:36,519 as well, we're not gonna be having we haven't got aten time to talk 939 01:07:36,559 --> 01:07:39,760 about those today. We're gonna be doing those on a future show. But 940 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,639 the reason we're saving those for a future show, particularly the comics, is 941 01:07:42,679 --> 01:07:45,880 we're going to be getting several of the writers and animators from the comics on 942 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,840 the show, the artist to talk about the comics themselves as well with Jim, 943 01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:53,039 Chris and myself. So it's very very exciting a future episode as well. 944 01:07:53,079 --> 01:07:55,159 They've contact us all on Twitter and we're going to make that happen. 945 01:07:55,159 --> 01:07:57,599 It's going to be very exciting. But before we go, one more thing, 946 01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,679 Chris, you're usually on top of all this, so I'm shimming you 947 01:08:00,719 --> 01:08:03,679 already know. Did you know that there was actually a band episode of dark 948 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:10,039 Ring Duck. I did? I did know that, And do you want 949 01:08:10,079 --> 01:08:12,800 it? I'll let you take it away to explain what what's going on here? 950 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,279 What episode is that? Because it's still actually banned on Disney Plus you're 951 01:08:15,319 --> 01:08:18,600 still that's right, Yeah, yep, yep, yep, it is so. 952 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,880 I believe it was in the third season, an episode called Hot Spells. 953 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,800 Yeah. Yeah, if if my research is correct, it was taken 954 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:33,960 off the air because it kind of conflicted with Christianity and it featured featured the 955 01:08:34,239 --> 01:08:43,119 devil? Is that sent into Haydes? Yeah, yes, so the devil 956 01:08:43,119 --> 01:08:45,880 had appeared on a previous episode, but in this one here he gets Goslin 957 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,279 to perform dark magic, which was very no, no, apparently right right 958 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:54,000 right right. I can't agree more as her father. And do you remember 959 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:59,239 anything about that, Jim, Yeah, yeah I do. And and it 960 01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:01,039 was very sting at the time when we're recording it, and I was going, 961 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:08,479 oh, okay, well this will play well and you know Amish Town 962 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:14,399 or you know the at the Vatican, uh, and so uh, we'll 963 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,880 see what happens here, and you know it was it was. It was 964 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:24,439 a time of innovation and adventure and and skating along the edge, skating on 965 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:29,840 thin ice. I guess and uh, I remember, and I've seen it. 966 01:09:30,319 --> 01:09:34,199 Gosh, it's been years. But it looks good. You know, 967 01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:42,960 Satan looked good. Uh nice, nice red tones, had beautiful horns, 968 01:09:45,239 --> 01:09:47,720 yeah, Marty Ingles, so right, yeah, and well see I think 969 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:54,319 that's part part of the problem because Marty Ingles was Satan, so you know, 970 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:58,520 God rest his soul. But yeah, I'd forgotten that and it was 971 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,720 and the think of it, it's so silly, is that. My thought 972 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:10,079 at the time was that it was so silly that you had to work to 973 01:10:10,199 --> 01:10:13,399 take offense at it. You couldn't take it seriously. Yeah, yeah, 974 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,520 you couldn't. Yeah, it's like you can't really really you're taking this offense 975 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,239 at this because yeah, and one of the fascinating things to me about like 976 01:10:21,359 --> 01:10:26,479 especially about band episodes and things of that nature, is how it's still banned. 977 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,880 And you know, I've seen a few other cartoons on Disney Plus and 978 01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,399 I'm a big fan of you know, sometimes you see a little disclaimer, 979 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:39,279 you know, like times change, cultures change, you know, especially when 980 01:10:39,359 --> 01:10:43,720 we're going back thirty forty years, and I think it's better like for the 981 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,520 culture and for an educational purpose, just to like, you know, have 982 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,920 that little disclaimer. You know, things have changed, attitudes have changed. 983 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:55,680 This is how originally was. But we're not necessarily endorsing this anymore. But 984 01:10:55,800 --> 01:11:00,319 here see it in his original format, rather than just censoring it and acting 985 01:11:00,359 --> 01:11:02,279 like it never existed. That's my person, don't you. Yeah, don't 986 01:11:02,359 --> 01:11:05,760 delete history, just acknowledge history is different to what it is now. Yeah. 987 01:11:06,319 --> 01:11:10,479 Yeah, no, I agree. I think that's a perfect position. 988 01:11:11,319 --> 01:11:15,880 I because it happens when I agree with the book in the Jungle Book has 989 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,840 got the disclaimer at the start, or Aladdin's got the disclaimer at the start, 990 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,920 which you can't skip over. You have to watch it for like ten 991 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,960 seconds or whatever, which is fine. I understand why it's there, but 992 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,079 because we did what was it was a book? Because that had some band 993 01:11:26,119 --> 01:11:29,000 episodes about that. It was terrorism, wasn't it. Yeah, but they're 994 01:11:29,039 --> 01:11:31,520 still available on Disney Plus. But this one here, no, still not 995 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,479 available. Yeah, good and believe it. But if you're a bit of 996 01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:41,439 a pirate like myself, you can go on YouTube and source it. Yes, 997 01:11:42,239 --> 01:11:45,279 excellent, Yes, well please do in that case. So if you 998 01:11:45,319 --> 01:11:47,520 do want to watch Hot Spells the Dark Green Duck Band episode that is available 999 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,399 right now on YouTube, you'll I might put them, actually I won't put 1000 01:11:50,399 --> 01:11:53,479 link might get in trouble, but you can find it. Just just look 1001 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,640 for it on YouTube. It's out. Go ahead, throw it up. 1002 01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,159 I don't think anybody's going to care. Maybe we'll do an audio commentary on 1003 01:11:59,239 --> 01:12:02,640 it for Patriot if it's available. It's available. Alrighty, al right, 1004 01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:04,319 Well, is there anything else, Chris you want to do? You want 1005 01:12:04,359 --> 01:12:09,399 to discuss before we let Jim go and dark Wing Duck go. There's one 1006 01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:13,439 last really short thing and it was just more about a commentary on the fandom 1007 01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,920 of dark Wing Duck and every convention I go to, I swear the fans 1008 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:21,279 of dark Wing has the absolute best cause plays. Like I've seen some of 1009 01:12:21,359 --> 01:12:26,279 the best costumes, whether it be dark Wing like mixed with Batman, one 1010 01:12:26,319 --> 01:12:29,840 of my favorites. I saw a dark Wing Mandalorian and I have a picture 1011 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,479 of that. You know, we can put this stuff in the video. 1012 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:36,119 They mentioned it too, and it's so good and they Yeah, dark Wing, 1013 01:12:36,199 --> 01:12:40,119 by far, of all your characters, they have the best cause plays. 1014 01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:44,520 The poo is a lot of what do they call it bounding? Bounding 1015 01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,960 when they just kind of dress in the colors, Yeah, where it's the 1016 01:12:47,079 --> 01:12:50,119 colors and they not have two little ears. Yeah, but dark Wing, 1017 01:12:50,319 --> 01:12:55,720 Like, I've seen some super elaborate costumes and every time it's always to me 1018 01:12:55,840 --> 01:13:00,800 the best. Yeah, dark Wing Alorean was the Mandel you know that was 1019 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,079 like, are you kidding me? This is great? Yeah, I'm a 1020 01:13:04,159 --> 01:13:08,039 picture of it. We can throw it up on Yeah. So if you 1021 01:13:08,119 --> 01:13:10,439 are a Cause player right there, who's done that sending your pitches, well, 1022 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,920 we'll get Jim to post on the social media because I'm excited to see 1023 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:17,000 these Mandalorian and dark Wing that sounds mood too or anything or just dark Wing 1024 01:13:17,079 --> 01:13:20,199 and dark Wing any dark Wing duck yeah cause plays. Send it all through. 1025 01:13:20,239 --> 01:13:24,039 We'll put a big collash together and we'll wack it up on our social 1026 01:13:24,079 --> 01:13:26,760 media. If you want to be Jim Cummings social media famous, send it 1027 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,920 through Gim Cumings Podcasts at gmail dot com. Right. Well, you know, 1028 01:13:30,319 --> 01:13:33,039 The Road del Dorado was one of my movies. I always liked it 1029 01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:40,119 and I had these guys coming I played Cortez and the Road del Doorrado and 1030 01:13:42,199 --> 01:13:44,319 you know, you know, o god, I'm gonna forget the names of 1031 01:13:44,399 --> 01:13:51,520 the two guys that's that started it, but they it was Tulio and Julio, 1032 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:57,039 not tu Leo and Julio. Anyway, it was Kevin Klein and kind 1033 01:13:57,119 --> 01:14:02,800 of kind of Kevin Brenner, and these two guys were incredible. They came 1034 01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:08,399 up and they acted like I was Cortez, you know, because I was 1035 01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:15,159 the sort of Orson Wells bad guy in that show. And we put it 1036 01:14:15,239 --> 01:14:19,119 out there and it was a sensation, mini sensation, just like years ago 1037 01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:25,199 on YouTube. I'm sure it's dead now, but it's fun to be the 1038 01:14:25,279 --> 01:14:30,760 bad guy, you know, every now and then. So, hey, 1039 01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:33,520 did dark Wing always have Were you always going to be naked Duck on the 1040 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:38,600 show or was that something that you are still peaceful? No? No, 1041 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,159 they just said, you know, we want him to sound like dark Wing 1042 01:14:42,359 --> 01:14:46,960 only if he went to the dark side. Yeah. So when you auditioned 1043 01:14:47,039 --> 01:14:51,279 for the role, you were auditioning for both essentially. Yeah, well, 1044 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,960 Naga Duck wasn't there yet. It was Darkwing only. Yeah. Yeah. 1045 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,239 And then like a year later they said, well let's do the it yeah 1046 01:15:00,399 --> 01:15:04,720 of of you know, whatever whatever that would be. You know, so 1047 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:09,640 he was negga Duck. So there we go. This has been fun, 1048 01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,520 isn't it. Chris going I feel like dark Ring Duck is the besides, 1049 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,079 what do I feel like Dark Ring Duck is like the pinnacle for Jim. 1050 01:15:15,119 --> 01:15:16,680 Don't you think it's the one that everyone that seems to the most right. 1051 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,640 Yeah, this definitely created the most buzz on social media. So don't forget, 1052 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,680 guys, We've got plenty more Dark Ring Duck episodes of the podcast coming 1053 01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:29,279 up. And also don't forget you can't support the show on Patreon to get 1054 01:15:29,319 --> 01:15:31,279 early and add free access to the show. All supporters get a shout out 1055 01:15:31,319 --> 01:15:34,399 by Jim, as well as entry into a prise draw for a special video 1056 01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:39,319 message and signed photo. You also got access to exclusive podcasts such as our 1057 01:15:39,359 --> 01:15:43,479 comings commentaries, whereas I said earlier, we go back and record audio commentaries 1058 01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,720 of classic Disney shows with special appearances from the characters that Jim voices himself. 1059 01:15:47,319 --> 01:15:50,000 So far, we've done Duck, Wing, Dark Bonkers, and tail Spin, 1060 01:15:50,159 --> 01:15:53,239 and I'm hoping the next one we're going to be the patrons get the 1061 01:15:53,319 --> 01:15:55,319 vote. It's going to be goof Trips. I'm looking forward to going back 1062 01:15:55,319 --> 01:15:59,560 and revisiting goof Troop as well Troupe. Yeah, make sure goof Troop. 1063 01:16:00,119 --> 01:16:02,039 I really want to hear some more Pete please. I wanted to. Will 1064 01:16:02,199 --> 01:16:05,359 dare you go? And if you want to get in touch, like I 1065 01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,960 said, contact us Jim Cummings Podcast at gmail dot com. Thank you all 1066 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:13,319 again for listening, Absolute Champions, Thank you, Chris for joining us once 1067 01:16:13,319 --> 01:16:16,439 again. Thank you, thank you, thank you Jim And of course one 1068 01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:20,159 more final question, does Duck Win Duck have any final words for all those 1069 01:16:20,199 --> 01:16:26,600 amazing listeners out there. Yes, let's get toterous, but do it safely