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Thank you for listening to Depiction's Media
Radio. Welcome to Policy Rights to show

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about government policy and human rights.
All right, everybody, welcome back to

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policy and rights here in Depictions Media
Radio. I'm your host, Michael Clogs.

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UM. We're gonna hear some comments
about the Alberta election, Uh Daniel

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Smith. It came out to be
the victor. UM. The interesting part

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about this, as much as we
we broadcast please go vote, get your

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voice heard, and it's one of
the best ways if we want to see

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change in our world is to go
vote. The election UM had one of

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the lowest turnouts for Alberta UM in
in well in Alberta history, UM that

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did. The voter turnout was was
extremely low and UM Daniel Smith did come

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out to be the victor over UM
of course not only with the NDP and

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she gets to continue her what it
is is she was working on for her

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vision of what Alberta should look like. And congratulations to her on that,

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you know, coming up with the
victory. But we do need to need

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to stress that yes, we do
actually need to go vote. We can't

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be disheartened by we hear things about
the interference foreign interference into the electoral system.

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We can't be disheartened by that.
And we're actually going to hear jack

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Mee saying makes some comments about that
and that he is continuing to call for

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a public inquiry into the public interference
and what China has done and what what

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the ceases records and information actually has
inside of it, so that they can

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figure out how to improve the system
and make the system better. There were

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some comments and questions about would the
trigger a confidence vote and which case everybody

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goes into electrotion mode, and Jackie
See was adamant to death's not the ultimate

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goal of what he wants. What
he wants is to see the truth come

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out about what is happening inside of
the electoral process. So and we're also

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going to hear, of course Alberta
is still in a wildfire emergency, which

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well Daniel Smith gets to keep going
with that, which is a continued uphill

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battle. And now Nova Scotia is
seeing um the same thing with far as

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fires happening. We're going to also
hear comments about the opiate crisis, as

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Elizabeth May is joined by others uh
speaking for safe supply and to treat addiction

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as a mental illness and not to
treat it um just on a criminal basis,

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to maybe decriminalize drugs so that people
can get the help they need with

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mental illness and addiction. Along with
that, we're we're also going to hear

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some other comments about other issues that
happen across Canada as well. We listen

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to UM all of the segments today, So why don't we start off with

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Justin Trudeau as he is going to
make the first segment in ground Jeri Michelle

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Coti, the Parsidan and the Mellouisandi
deceny in the ferry in the play Masuvier

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la touche spirit so rolling crazy on
the premier film U some some rest committed

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on um oral parkams uh ka uh
sit there artist a universe culture, really

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mediatic artistic, Qua was the players
um. Michelle Couti was an extraordinary actor

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who um moved us all as Quebecers
in so many different ways and this one

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that those who don't know who she
he is would be good to view some

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of his films. I think his
abilities as an actor and comedian were legendary.

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Sing was the special actor to sit
down. May they are natist like

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Kwaiba means she told her what film
crazy, but who we accept la chance

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and immediately Okay, back about the
Alberta election, just your general thoughts.

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My thoughts are that all Burtons are
going to make their choice today. We'll

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see who the premier is tonight,
and I encourage everybody to go out and

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vote. Jean, I want to
ask you about what's what's your react?

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But we have to stay vigilant in
our own country, but we also have

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to raise our voices internationally when we
see our rights taken away from people and

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rights that were hard fought being scaled
back. Look, we don't have to

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go very far in our own country
to look at people that are trying to

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make sure that pride flags aren't flown. You don't have to go further than

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Oxford County to see that. Chill
rack BC has had issues with trans kids

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in school, and now we see
even in Atlantic provinces the rights of kids

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to be who they are in school
trying to be taken away. So we

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have to remain visioned on lgbtq I
S plus rights here in Canada and we

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have to stick up for them around
the world as well. A twelve how

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do you envision the federal dopment four
poment. Whoever is elected, an accident

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comes to you know, the challenge
is related to climate change or pathic emissions.

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Sure, as Minister wrote of my
job has been since day one to

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find common ground and to work on
files together. And whether it's been a

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Premier not L's group in my first
mandate or whether it was Premier Kenny's group

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in the second mandate, the job
is to represent all all Burtons. And

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I can tell you when I'm on
the doors talking with people, what they

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tell us is we elect municipal,
provincial and federal reps to get the work

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done. We expect you all to
work together and that's that will be my

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approach with whoever the new cabinet and
MLAs are after today's election. Thanks for

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well. I mean, this isn't
new money. It was announced in the

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budget and you know, I go
back. You know, the Prime Minister

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acknowledged what was happening around violence against
Indigenous women and girls as a genocide,

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yet they're not investing adequately in it. And I agree with the chair of

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the Family and Survivor's Circle, the
National Family and Survivor's Circle, that it

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needs to be accountable. It needs
to be you know, spent in a

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timely way, and it needs to
be measurable goals. You know, the

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federal government has a habit of making
these big announcements and then not spending the

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money. So we know about the
money in the twenty twenty three budget.

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We know they need to invest more
if they're serious about addressing this ongoing genocide,

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and they need to get that money
out the door, unlike pass Moneys

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that they've allocated, including from twenty
and we're still waiting for them to spend

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it. Pretty things are they're putting
well? I mean absolutely we need to

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look after everybody's health and wellbeing.
Uh and certainly the well being of men

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and boys. I absolutely think that's
necessary. You know, Indigenous women and

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girls and diverse gendered folks are not
perpetrating violence on ourselves. Often it's happening

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at the hands of men and boys. So we need to make sure that

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we look after men and boys as
well. We need to make sure that

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they're healthy. So I do support
that gender bouncer you want. Good morning,

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Thank you for coming to this press
conference, which is fully nonpartisan and

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focused on the crisis the opioid crisis, the importance of harm reduction, and

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policies that focus on safe supply and
decriminalization. I'm joined today and we're going

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to have a speaking order as follows. I'm really honored to be joined by

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a number of the real experts through
tragedy in this issue with Mom's Stop the

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Harm. First, we're going to
hear from Adam Vancouver Don, Parliamentary Secretary

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to Health that I'm going to invite
Leslie McBain for mom Stop the Harm,

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and Ruth Fox and Christine Taylor to
take the stage. Followed Up, the

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closing words will be from Mike Morris
MP for Kitchener's Center. So I'll just

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turn the microphone over to Adam.
Thank you, MP. May. It's

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a real pleasure to be here in
Elizabeth. Each other by our first names,

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because we're friends and colleagues. And
the reason that we're here today is

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because members of the Liberal Party,
the Green Party, the NDP, and

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the Blackibiqua are have become increasingly horrified
by the really fact free rhetoric coming from

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the Conservative Party as it relates to
safe supply and harm reduction in this country.

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We have to acknowledge that we have
an opioid crisis, in a poisoned

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drug crisis in Canada, and the
type of rhetoric that's coming from Pierre Polyev

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and the Conservatives right now is doing
more harm. It's spreading mistruth, it's

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creating more stigma, and it's not
doing anything to help people who actually need

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it. So I'm really glad to
be joined today by Leslie, Christine and

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Ruth, who have just met,
but who are familiar to everybody who really

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knows what they're talking about when it
comes to the opioid crisis in Canada.

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I want to acknowledge that I'm a
politician like Pierre Polyev and Elizabeth May and

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Mike Morris. I'm a politician,
not an expert in the opioid crisis or

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really very many other things. That's
why we rely on experts. We rely

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on experts for that academic approach for
an evidence based solution. And since Canada

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at large has been employing a safe
supply and harm reduction approach and an evidence

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based approach to solving for the epioid
opioid epidemic, there have been tens of

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thousands of overdose reversals. Lives are
being saved. This is not work that's

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complete, it's ongoing. But the
type of fact free nonsense that's been coming

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out of the conservative side on this
lately is harmful and it needs to stop.

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So with that I pass it over
moms to stop the harm. Whether

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that's Ruth, Christine or Leslie,
I'm not sure, but I'd just like

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to thank you for your time today, for coming here to Ottawa, and

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for sharing your lived and living experience
which is informing our government's action on how

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we support people through the toughest times
of their life. Thank you very much

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for being here. Thanks. We
are reluctant experts. We never wanted to

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be standing here, and we're standing
here because our children have died from drug

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harms. We are advocates for the
implementation right now other things as well,

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but the implementation of a safe,
regulated, legal supply of drugs for people

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who need them. We really want
to implore the public to understand what that

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means. It doesn't mean standing on
the corner and giving out drugs to kids,

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which has been sort of intimated by
the Conservatives. We want to set

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the records straight. This project will
be very highly regulated, highly documented.

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The research will be the research is
there, the statistics will be there as

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well. We know that the only
way to stop or reduce the horrendous number

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of deaths is to implement a regulated
supply. I mean people who are addicted

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tobacco, people who are addicted to
alcohol have a safe, regulated supply.

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They can use it unsafely, but
it's up to them. People who are

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addicted, and I'm hoping the public
understands addiction as we go along, need

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to have the drug they're addicted or
dependent on, and they have to go

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out into the black market, which
is run by the by gangs organized trying.

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So we are making people who are
addicted and dependent go out into that

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market to get the medicine they need. This isn't how we work in Canada.

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We help people who have health conditions. We actually can easily compare what

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happens with people who are addicted and
how they're treated with people who have heart

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attacks and how they're treated. They
are followed for life. They have the

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best medicines in the world, they
have the best doctors in the world here

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in Canada, but not so with
people who are addicted. So we are

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working so hard to show that you
know, drug use is a problem,

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but it shouldn't be deadly. It
should be treated. When people come into

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the er, they should be treated
with respect. They should be treated with

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ongoing care and support. They shouldn't
be just turfed out the door, which

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happens everywhere across the land. Our
kids died because they didn't have what we

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are advocating for. They didn't have
services, they didn't have harm reduction.

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They didn't they weren't able to get
into treatment when they needed it. The

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Conservatives say that they're building, They're
going to build this fantastic amount of treatment

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beds and evidence based and all of
those things, and we agree we need

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those, but dead people can't access
those services. So we're here to tell

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to tell the world, to tell
the world stop the deaths. And we

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will say that every single day for
the rest of our lives, because that's

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where our grief will be for the
rest of our lives. We're in grief

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because we lost our kids. Thanks, And I would like to hand it

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over to Christine Naylor valuation exactly.
So I've prepared something to say because I'm

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not as good as Leslie and when
I'm nervous, so i just want to

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say I'm here in Ottawa today to
stand united with advocates from across our province

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in country, to advocate in support
of safe supply and other harm reduction measures

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that meet people where they are and
help to keep them alive. Our country

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needs to move forward, not backwards
when it comes to measures to address the

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toxic drug supply. Measures taken to
date to address the toxic crisis have failed

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the results of these failures are heartbreaking
in the extreme. Since two thousand and

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sixteen, over thirty five thousand Canadians
have lost their lives due to our country's

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failed drug policies. My son was
one of them. Thirty five thousand.

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This is a number that is staggering
and it should outrage Canadians, and yet

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it doesn't and why because of stigma. Every drug death is a policy failure,

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and it's a policy choice. Every
life loss mattered, Every loss affects

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a family, and it leaves ripples
of grief, trauma, and heartbreak in

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communities across our country. In November
of two thousand and twenty, our worst

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nightmare came true. We lost our
son Ryan to a toxic drug poisoning.

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As much as I wanted it not
to be real, to wake up and

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it all to be a bad dream. It wasn't. On Ryan's thirty fifth

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birthday, instead of celebrating with our
son, we buried him. Ryan lived

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with concurrent disorders, having both bipolar
disorder and substance use disorder. The last

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eight years of his life were struggle. It didn't have to be that way,

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and I truly believe if society support
it instead of shame those living with

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mental illness and substance use issues,
Ryan's story would have had a different ending.

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Ryan is dead because he was denied
a safe supply of what for him

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was his medicine. It was a
drug he found that helped him to cope

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with his bipolar disorder. Since Ryan's
passing, my husband and I formed a

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nonprofit organization in Ryan's memory and honor. Our mission is to advocate for and

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support those living with mental illness and
substance use issues and experiencing homelessness. Our

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work brings us into contact with so
many people in our community that are struggling

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with substance use issues. We have
needlessly lost so many members of our communities.

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These deaths were preventable. Lose approximately
one member of our community a week,

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the toxic drug crisis continues to take
a tool on our community and on

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our country. As a co founder
and director of Bryan's Hope and as an

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advocate for Mom Stop the Harm,
I vocally advocate for decriminalization, safe supply,

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and other health based measures to support
people living with substance use issues.

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Public health experts, law enforcement,
frontline workers, and people with lived and

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living experience have long called for a
shift in Canada's approach to substance use,

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including decriminalization of simple, expungement of
convictions, universal access to treatment and recovery

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programs, but the access has to
be voluntary force treatment we know does not

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work. Yet, instead of moving
forward in a more health and evidence based

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approach this to address this public health
emergency, the Conservatives are calling for measures

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to reverse the small steps that we
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backwards with our country's drug policy.
This will have devastating effects and it will

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cost countless lives. This is why
advocates have come to Ottawa to stand unite

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it at Parliament. The cost of
us not standing up and speaking out is

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too high. Together, we will
change policy and stigma and save lives.

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Thank you now, I know,
but I had came good morning. I've

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jotted down some words as well.
In August twenty twenty, my world and

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my heart were forever shattered when my
youngest son, Trevor died from toxic jog

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poisoning. Trevor died in his home. He did not have a history of

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sub problematic substance use. He was
twenty five years old and had a full

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and promising life ahead of him.
I believe that if it wasn't for the

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stigma associated with substance use, criminalization
of people who use substances, and the

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toxic supply, Trevor would be with
us to day. As Trevor's death illustrates,

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it is not only those who struggle
with substance use disorder who are dying.

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Any One who uses substances is at
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We have a policy and social framework
which judges, shames, and punishes

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people who use drugs. We need
to criminalization of persons who use drugs and

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access to regulated substances often called safe
supply, within the framework of a compassionate

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public health care approach. An approach
that respects human rights meets people where they

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are and does not stigmatize or discriminate
on any basis. If there was safe

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supply, Trevor would be here today. Simply put, nobody has died from

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safer supply, while the toxic drunk
supply has killed almost thirty five thousand Canadians

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since twenty sixteen and continues to take
the lives of about twenty people across Canada

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every day. Every day, twenty
families are plunged into never ending grief.

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Thank you, thank you all for
coming. Really honored to be here with

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Senator Kim Paid to my right and
Victoria Person from a March of Dimes.

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March of Dimes Canada to continue to
call for the federal government to cut the

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delays on C. Twenty two,
to recognize that people with disabilities have been

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waiting far to long, that people
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across the country, that forty percent
of people living in poverty across the country

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are living with a disability, and
they could be acting right now. We're

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calling on them to first of all, prioritize C. Twenty two to bring

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C twenty two. This is the
Canada Disability Benefit Act that the Senate has

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now moved ahead with to bring it
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Comments. In doing so, to
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the good work that Senator Pate and
her colleagues have done to improve the bill,

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and while they're at it, to
budget the benefit, because nothing changes

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for people with disabilities until the Canada
Disability Benefit is funded. There have been

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five sitting days this week, five
different opportunities. The federal government had to

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reintroduce C twenty two National Accessibility Week. Is there a better time than that

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to be reintroducing C twenty two.
Disappointed they haven't yet, but we continue

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to call on them without delay to
move forward on reintroducing and giving C twenty

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two the Canada Disability Benefit Act the
priority it deserves and to act with the

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urgency that the disability community continues to
call for. I'll now turn to Senator

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Kim Pate right, Thank you very
much, mister Morris, and as member

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of Parliament who has championed this,
it's vitally important. The government took a

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very clear position that they were going
to support a disability benefit. They introduced

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it. It was that's fantastic.
The Minister has done incredible work. Has

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the level of support from the community
disability community that is unprecedented. The challenges

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that the bill we got as a
Senate was a framework, a piece of

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framework legislation that was virtually empty and
devoid of any substance. Now we think

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that what we sent back is not
the best it could be, but it

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certainly would mean some things like adequacy, help prevent clawbacks, help ensure that

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we actually see the benefits roll out
more expeditiously, and that the consultations start

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very quickly with disability groups. It's
vitally important that this go ahead. My

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understanding was this accessibility week, it
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It's a huge disappointment to see it
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We worked very hard in the Senate
to work through as many of the issues

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as quickly as possible to get it
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four sitting weeks in order for it
to be considered. The time is running

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out and disability people with disabilities can't
wait. They've been waiting already several years

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for this benefit since it was first
announced, so the time to act is

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now. I'm hoping that all of
the members of Parliament here will take it

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upon themselves to to support the Senate
amendment and get this benefit rolling out as

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quickly as possible to all people who
deserve it and who need to be lifted

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out of poverty. Not after our
summer break, not you know, sometime,

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you know, long into the future, but now, thank you,

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thank you very much. March Times
Canada is one of thirteen organizations that last

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week sent a letter to House leaders
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and our message was simple. We
need to return this legislation to the

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Order paper of the House of Commons
and pass it without any further delay,

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and it must receive royal assent before
Parliament adjourns for the summer. The time

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to act is now. Every day
that we wait for this bill is a

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day to people with disabilities in this
country must continue to live in poverty.

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Every day we wait delays the critical
next steps of this process. The community,

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Canada's disability community is ready. We
are ready to roll up our sleeves,

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to lean in and to partner in
the cocreation of the regulations that will

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establish the key details of this benefit. We are ready to partner in the

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implementation and roll out of the benefit
so that it can reach as many people

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with disabilities as possible and lift them
out of poverty, restoring independence and dignity.

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We are ready, but the next
steps are up to this House and

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so on behalf of people living with
disabilities in every corner of this country.

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We implore you, let's get this
done. Thank you, Victoria, thank

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you for those strong words. It's
always so encouraging to see the disability community,

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the disability community united from Disability without
Poverty to March of Dimes to Inclusion

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a Canada, every step of the
way calling for this benefit to be prioritized

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with the urgency it does. It
deserves. Thank you. Questions for Victoria's

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letters to the House, the House
and resolves. Have you any response to

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the House line? Probably about a
few weeks. We haven't had a formal

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response to our letter. We're encouraged
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here this week in Ottawa, but
we really need to see the evidence of

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this bill on the notice paper to
feel confident that this is going to get

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done in time for the adjournment.
And I think the best evidence of the

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answer to that question is whether C
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and again it hasn't been reintroduced.
As I said earlier, there were

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five different opportunities this week to see
it come up, and we need to

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continue to call for the governing party
to put to put it up. Thank

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you, thank you, was you
a good day. I'll have an opening

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and then I'll be ready for your
questions. I want to just start off

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by acknowledging that there are so many
forest fires across the country and our first

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responders, firefighters are fighting hard.
Communities are devastated, and I just want

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to acknowledge the work that's being done
and also the challenging times for a lot

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of Canadians right now. I also
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In our motion, we are calling
for the government to remove mister Johnston

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as a special rappertur. We know
that a lot of Canadians have left countries

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where they were oppressed. They fled
those countries and came to Canada seeking security,

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seeking safety, seeking freedom. Sadly, that same oppressionists followed them to

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Canada, and there are countless Canadians
that have shared their stories about how they

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are experiencing foreign interference in their lives, people of Iranian descent, Canadians that

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have come from India, Canadians that
have come from countries around the world have

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continued to face foreign interference in their
lives here in Canada, and we are

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worried about that. We also know
that there's clear allegations of foreign interference in

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our electoral system, and that's something
we take seriously. Unlike mister Trudeau,

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who wants ignore this, sweep it
on the rug, or unlike mister Paul

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Yeah, for whom this is just
a game, just playing a political game

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here, New Democrats are taking it
seriously. I'm going to be receiving the

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special briefing, confidential information regarding what
CSIS knows, because I think this is

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serious, and that's why we're calling
for mister Johnson this episide. We've been

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very careful that from the beginning,
we believe the public enquires right step,

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but we've never and I don't attack
mister Johnson personally, but I am concerned

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that there is a very clear apprehension
of bias that undermines the work that he

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can do. And so at this
point we are asking for mister Johnson to

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be removed, and that's where our
opposite emotion is about. In addition,

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we are reiterating our call for a
public inquiry because that is a process that

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has enough rigor to restore Canadians confidence
and electoral system. In addition to letting

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Canadians know that we take the serious
allegations against Canadians in general and against our

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parliament seriously, we also know that
there is an apathy around voting. Less

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and less Canadians are turning out to
vote, and I think that foreign interference

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and electoral system does nothing to assuage
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even contribute to it. So I
really believe it is important to take this

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seriously and that's why we're putting forward
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you see on a town book,
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have not received the date yet.
I've also written on when I work,

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will I'll be briefed on that confidential
information that ESUS has. I've also written

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a letter making it very clear that
I want to have the same ability as

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mister Johnson to provide my opinion on
the evidence that I see. My opinion

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on a public inquiry my opinion on
the government's actions, and we're waiting for

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the response to that letter. In
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Johnson to step down a special rapport. If you're not going to follow through

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with with pulling the plug on the
Confidence and Supply Agreement. What we're doing

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is we're forcing this government with a
vote. We're forcing Parliament to decide on

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whether or not mister Johnson should continue. I think that's a serious question.

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Given the clear appearance of bias,
we are putting before Canadians that it is

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no longer useful to have mister Johnson
in that position, given the clear appearance

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of bidence, it's not going to
restore confidence in electoral system. So we're

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going to push for that. But
I would question the approach of creating the

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conditions for an election or triggering an
election as not serious about protecting our democracy.

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If we want to protect our democracy, I would think the approach should

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be let's put in place new measures. What are the new steps to protect

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against foreign inference? What are the
new steps are going to be taken to

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ensure that nomination meetings aren't being influenced, that MP's aren't being influenced. I

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would like to see a series of
steps being taken, and that to me

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would show some real seriousness about protecting
our electoral system. If it's just about

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a game to trigger an election,
and then sure, mister Paulliams approaches tear

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it all down and have an election. I actually don't think this is a

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game. I think this is serious. I want to make sure that there

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are steps in place that their recommendation
is being followed that actually reinforce our democracy

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because for me, I don't want
to see people believe in voting. I

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want to see people confident in voting, and I want to restore Canadians confidence

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in that. It's not about a
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continue to fight for a public choir
because it's the right thing to do to

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give Canadians the answers to questions.
But I don't see how it's logical if

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the goal is to protector democracy to
then trigger an election when we're worried about

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foreign interference. That because Conference on
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really judge his work for yourself yet. So how can you then be so

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sure that he must step aside?
What we're our concern is about the appearance

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of bias, and the appearance of
bias is very important in our system when

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it comes to judges, when it
comes to independent decision makers. It's really

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clear right now when looking at the
work of the Johnson that the chief or

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the principal lawyer, the lawyer that
worked with mister Johnson in analyzing the documents

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and reviewing the evidence in meeting with
people. This was the lawyer that met

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with me as well. It is
very clear that her donation record since the

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early two thousands to present has been
to donate to the Liberal Party in every

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electoral or election year. That is
a clear appearance of bias that undermines the

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efforts of mister Johnson. And again
I don't believe it was appropriate for mister

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Pauli eff to be so personal an
attacked mister Johnson, someone who's shown to

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be a credible person. But the
appearance of bias is so strong at this

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point that it really does undermine the
efforts of restoring Canadians confidence. The appearance

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is what I'm talking about, and
the appearance is very important. It's the

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appearance of these impartiality or partiality,
biased or not biased that really impacts people's

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confidence in the decisions that are being
taken. And with such a bias that

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very obvious now, or the appearance
of such a bias, it makes it

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no longer tenable for mister Johnson to
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don't we gerver On continued fast let
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to add these ups. Do you
worry about your own credibility? You keep

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kind of threatening to act, but
you're not really acting. At what points

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do you become like the boy who
cried wolf. We are forcing this government

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to deliver. There's not a threat
here is there's a straight up agreement where

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we have forced this government to do
a number of things dental care and we

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want to make sure dental care is
delivered by the end of this year.

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I've spoken with seniors that are living
in pain because they can't afford to get

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their teeth fixed. In every province
of this country, there are stories of

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seniors who cannot look after their teeth
and are living in pain in their senior

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years where they should be living with
dignity in respect, those seniors are going

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to be able to get their teeth
looked after. If we look at what

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we're putting in place, it's going
to help millions of Canadians and I want

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to see that happen. That's what
we're doing. We're forcing this government to

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deliver for Canadians. Were in fact, the government's supporting our demands. That's

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what's happening here. We demanded that
there's dental care. The government's supporting us.

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We forced them to put in place
a legal framework for farmingcare. We're

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forcing them to support us. So
that's what we're doing. And along the

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way, we're also criticizing when they're
not doing what's necessary, and we're calling

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them to account when they're not doing
what they should be doing, and we're

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using our power to do that.
We're saying, mister Trudo, you're wrong

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not to declare a public inquiry.
You can't just sweep this under the rug.

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Mister Johnson's work is no longer able
to restore confidence because there's a clear

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appearance of bias. So we're critical
of the government and we're delivering for Canadians.

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That's what we're doing. Just on
the albert Out election results, should

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you have intervened more or do you
think your supply and confidence agreement with the

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Prime minister was a bit of a
poison pill for Alberton's and the nDEP brand.

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But I think what would happened in
Alberta. Of course, I'm disappointed

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that we didn't form a new Democrat
government. I think that's that's bad for

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Alberta, it's bad for Canada.
Burns would have been better off with a

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new Democrat government with a premier.
Nay, they would have been better off.

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But let's look at what happened here. This is a province where just

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a decade ago there was there was
a single party system in Alberta. There

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was a Conservative Party and that's it. That was the landscape of politics.

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Then there's three parties and in that
three party split, New Democrats were able

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to win and then change the landscape
of politics in Alberta in a phenomenal way.

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New Democrats won more seats the Conservatives
law seats. They won seats in

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Calgary. People that have voted Conservative
their entire lives and their families have voted

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Conservative their entire lives, voted New
Democrat. What Premier, what miss Naughtley

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did, former premier, but Miss
Notley, what she did and what the

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New Democrat Party did in Alberta is
changed the landscape of politics and created a

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two party system. Not too long
ago, the entire number of opposition MP's

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was barely ten, and now the
opposition in Alberta has firmly for two elections

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in a row. A significant new
Democrat presence. And uh, if you

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look at the results, thousands of
votes separated new Democrats from actually forming government.

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Just just in the thousands of votes, that shows the force of new

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Democrats, and it shows a seismic
land landscape shift in politics at Alberta.

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And I want to acknowledge the hard
work of all the new Democrats and Premier

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Notaly or former Premier Notaly and hopefully
future Premier Notaly in achieving that Acacia Japonel,

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be suque madame not laager and Alberta
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to depictions media radio and this has
been powers and rights. If we want

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to see real change in our world, we have to speak up for it.

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We have to go vote for it. We have to make sure that

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our opinion is heard and that we
do all the things that ensure that we

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get the world that we want.
We can't just lay back in and wait

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for it to happen to us.
We have to be proactive and we have

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to go and get what we want. So we want to thank you again

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