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Soul ladies and gentlemen. We're gonna
do a non spoilers view. We're gonna

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give you recommendation, some pros and
cons what we thought. And when I

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asked Kirkland, I'm gonna go three
two one, he's gonna say geek versussembled.

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Don't worry doing I know when it
gets on it one day, it'll

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be me. I know, I
already know. I haven't planned out.

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Yeah, so last time I heard
someone do it, it was Briggs and

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it was kind of scary like his
a. It took me off guard.

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I just expecting him to speak like
a normal person like my ears didn't were

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prepared for that. Yeah, No, I'm excited. So I will say

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three two one geek versussemble and that's
when or no, I'll say three to

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one, will say geek for sussemble, and that's when we jump into swell.

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So you'll know who wants to start
us off with a dark Phoenix twenty

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nineteen, the closing chapter of the
Fox X Men movies. I'll start off

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because you guys are the X Men
boys, and I better just get my

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boys, the X boys. Yeah. So, because I wasn't on any

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of the retros. I guess my
quick history of X Men. I don't

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think I've seen the first X Men
X one. I've seen probably half of

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X two, and then I've seen
all the other ones after that, and

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there's definitely some some misses in there, but there's also a lot of hits.

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I've had a lot of fun with
the X Men movies over the years.

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X three you knew you guys are
gonna trashed on it, and it's

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like such a special place in my
heart. So all the criticisms fair,

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and I haven't watched it in years, and maybe i'd feel the same way,

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but I love that movie so much. Just don't watch it then keep

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it in your niceness, Solis.
Yeah, so yeah, I'm definitely definitely

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an X Men fan. Now,
obviously we were coming off an interesting timeline

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like Apocalypse. Apocalypse came out I
don't know, a year or two ago

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and two years yeah, and it
was it wasn't awful. It definitely had

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some problems, but it just wasn't
as good as Days of Future Past or

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even First Class for that matter.
And then obviously just this movie getting delayed

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and then delayed again, and then
New Mutant's just getting kicked back like three

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hundred years and it get delayed again, like it it's just been There's been

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a lot of red flags before this
movie came out, So I think I

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went in with I mean, even
the trailers like gave away a lot,

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and then even I had some stuff
spoiled, like what actually like some of

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the stuff in the trailers that I'm
not going to say now, but definitely

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something spoiled before well because someone asked
a director like, oh, that looks

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like that character dies in the trailer, goes yeah, that character's dead.

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there's definitely a lack of tech when
it came to the marketing department on

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this movie, and I mean a
lot of this movie in general. So

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I went in with pretty low expectations, and I guess it really fit those

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expectations. This movie is overall pretty
disappointing. I think the music, the

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soundtrack's fantastic. Oh yeah, absolutely
amazing. Nim yeah, oh yeah,

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I forgot it was Zimmer until like
the last five minutes. I'm like,

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oh, yeah, that's why this
music is. I didn't realize till the

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credits, but I was like Okay, yeah that makes sense. That was

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excellent. Yeah, it really does
stand out like different characters, themes,

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and even just like in the background
of scenes. It's he's just such a

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great composer. He just has like
really dynamic, interesting music that really just

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I mean, tons of emotion right
that he can convey. So it really

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helped build up scenes that maybe the
dialogue was lacking, but the music can

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help kind of supplement some of those
feelings that you lose. And then I

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thought the action and CG the two
going together. It was actually pretty good

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for the most part. In this
movie. There's a lot of crazy stuff

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all over the place, and it
really worked for me for the most part.

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There's just there's a lot of action, too much for me personally,

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But everything I thought looked good at
least, So that's good considering that you

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know, they potentially reshot the whole
ending sequence and who knows what else,

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so I don't know what kind of
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re editing, but honestly, to
me, it all looked really good.

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However, my list of pros kind
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the biggest problem this movie has is
the dialogue I think between Geen Gray and

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Professor Xavier, like they have some
good good stuff between the two of them,

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but honestly, other than that,
there's really not much to look in

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on. Like it's just some of
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And for me, the most heartbreaking
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Benders Magneto, because he's just he's
done so good with that character. He's

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really just brought so much layers of
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and was it in first class or
like I guess, in both of them.

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Really well, he's been in three
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family but the dust yeah, yeah, and so yeah, even in Apocalypse,

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which was a pretty like a letdown
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Yeah, and that scene with his
family was so so well done. Yeah,

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because he's just he just has such
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that character and he has fun with
the role. You Like, those things

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are really really obvious on screen.
However, there's just nothing to work with

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here, Like the script for every
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or incredibly boring or blend or just
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for me. That's like the most
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Yeah, it's not the best movie
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movie for Macavoy's Xavier. But at
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Magneto, I can't think of a
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it's not Fastbender's fault, Whereas in
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Covenant, like I was kind of
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like, okay, I think acting
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me, And yeah, I mean
there's always things like the directing and editing,

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the script, like it all,
it's not never just the actor's fault.

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There's always multiple things at play.
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like, no way, Fastpender's fault
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content there for him to play with
this cool action stuff. I'll say that

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he did. You know there's some
fun stuff they do make powers in this

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movie. Yeah, that's that's all
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action scenes and how they're they're well
done for the most part, and it

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all, it all works. It
just sucks that everything he says just makes

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me roll my eyes, especially from
a character who's supposed to be so so

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intense and has been and has been
so successful and like consistent throughout these movies

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as well. Yeah, when we
get Dispose, I got two scenes I

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can show that maybe like they're not
like his best in the series, but

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something that was like salvageable. But
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up Magnane, know, just because
that's the biggest example, but even even

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Beast, he's kind of the same
boat, where he doesn't really have any

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lines that are that are interesting or
worthy of note. And there's like there's

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other characters as well, Like it's
just across the board. The dialogue is

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really really really letdown. And I
don't know, maybe there's some bias because

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as Travis mentioned, we're doing the
Tarantino retro and when we did a retro

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in Glorious Pasters just two days ago, and that movie has amazing dialogue from

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start to finish, So maybe maybe
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I just watched some of the best
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this like a couple of days later. I don't know if that has something

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to do with it. Perhaps it
did, but oh yeah, overall this

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movie is a major letdown. It
sucks that this is the end of these

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X Men and these characters because even
though a lot of them were introduced just

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one movie ago, there has been
a few that were around for quite a

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bit longer, and and they were
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Pass is a fantastic movie, and
I even I really like First Class as

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well. So yeah, I'm disappointed, but it kind of met my expectations,

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so I'm not too let down.
Grand scheme of things. Yeah,

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yeah, all right, I'll go
unless you're deep deep in hell there,

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Okay. Kind of riding the same
wavelength as Dylan going into this one,

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probably just due to like the setbacks
that this movie had and a lot of

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red flags going like just before it
even came out right, which doesn't do

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well at any point. But so
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I was like, oh man,
I have to go see this,

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Like it was like, oh man, I was on the retro so I'm

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I'm pretty committed. It wasn't really
the case there, but so having like

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that in the back of my mind
where I was just so like not looking

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forward to it, there was actually
like some some bright patches that I can

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take from it. Like I was
telling Travis before the cast, Sophie Turner

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like her overall, Like the acting
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Like there's some emotional scenes kind of
it's basically her movie, but I feel

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like, like the first act,
I really really liked what was happening with

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that character, Like when she's first
kind of like freaking out, Uh,

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can't really control herself, Like I
don't know, she's just selling it really

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well. Like those scenes that she
has with Scott and stuff. I really

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like that stuff. But totally the
dialogue was so brutal sometimes, Like I

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liked her acting on what she was
doing, but like for the stuff she

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was saying, it was just like, oh man, like so like corny

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and cheese and like you said,
just cookie cutter, like just so basic.

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And for a movie of this like
Triple A title, you expect so

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much more, but unfortunately that's not
what we got. And like I already

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said, I had such low expectations, so it's not like I was expecting

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that in Glorious Bastard's dialogue. And
yeah, it's funny going from, like

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you mentioned, going from a movie
like that to this. It's just like,

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oh man, But yeah, like
the bright patches that I was thinking

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of, like a lot of it
was in like probably like the first half

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of the movie. Like I guess
I'll say that for spoilers and stuff,

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but right, yeah, but no, like like visually, I liked a

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lot of like the CG and like
core choreography that they had for like the

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fight scenes. I do agree with
you, like it was getting a little

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bit too much action for me.
But overall, like before, I guess

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I would say, like before it
got to near the end when there was

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just so much action going on,
I really appreciate like the fights that they

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had or just like seeing them use
their powers. The special effects just look

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really neat. They kind of changed, like the baffing that they had for

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Nightcrawl compared to what they had.
And like the original, I think I

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prefer the original more just because I
probably grew up with that, but like

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this one just seems more colorful,
Like when you baffs. It just leaves

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this kind of like pastel looking color, whereas before just like a really dark

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I don't know, I don't know
how to explain it, but okay,

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but but yeah, just stuff like
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Like visually it was it was good
looking, but when you go down

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to like the bare bones of like
what makes a good movie, it is

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that dialogue and what carries it,
and it is big let down, especially

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seeing like Fastbender on the screen,
one of my favorite actors and I love

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seeing him on there. But he
was jack this movie. Yeah, I

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guess he's ever been you don't know
what. He looked really good. He

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was on his island. He's just
getting jack Man lift. Yeah. But

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yeah, like I'm kind of like
Dylan, like I'm kind of scratching my

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head for some pros in here.
Yeah, it's tough, It's okay,

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you know, it happens. Yeah, it's uh So, I don't know

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if if you don't have really high
expectations going into this, because following the

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path that Apocalypse left like that was
kind of a disappointing movie as well,

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so it's kind of on that same
same path, I guess. But it's

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like, uh, because we just
did the retro go back and check it

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out. It's like X three and
Origins back to back. They love doing

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like not good movies back like the
one too. Yeah, this one's apocalyps

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not the Grace, and then we
hit you with the Origins this like oh,

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or yeah, no X three not
the Grace, we hit you with

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the Origins the same thing, Oh, Apocalypse. It's just fine that like

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comm of Dark Phoenix and just like
not yeah exactly, and like, it

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is unfortunate that it is how they
ended off, like this whole series,

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the whole X Men from what we've
known since like two thousands I guess right

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in that same one. So it
is kind of unfortunate. But at the

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same time, it's like, well, at least it's kind of over now,

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right, we can we can see
what Disney does with X Men logan.

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Yeah, at least we got logan. Yeah, that's the right.

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I guess I forgot to say this
too, but would you theaters, would

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you recommend it for fans who would
you recommend it for it's or would you

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say it's not worth to go in
theater. It's funny that you mentioned that

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because I saw it. I know
viewers might not know this, but on

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the Extreme Theater on the West Side, and they just recently readd their audio.

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I at certain points I thought it
was like too loud. I was

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like getting nervous, like with there's
just some like intense things going on.

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I could like feel it like in
my chest. I'm like, man,

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I feel like someone's gonna go complain
with how loud this is because this is

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insane. You're getting old man.
Just the audio. There's the red Well

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speak. No, they have like
speakers on the roof now like literally like

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above above you, so it's like
on the sides and above, so you're

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just in a fucking subwhiffer. Like
it's insane audio. Yeah. Yeah,

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theater just one or two. It's
just the extreme theater, I believe.

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theater. Yeah, like you Taylor
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there's one theater screen in that called
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but there's technically one screen that is
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you say the extreme theater, I'm
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that's fair, But I don't know
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actually did say extreme screen read it
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know why I'm asking. It really
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that's that's right, that's what you
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It's a mess, just like how
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overall, i'd say if you're a
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be on Netflix or digital, say
a cheap Tuesday, just because of the

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sound and the effects, Like it's
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like I'm doing someone a disservice.
Disservice. Yeah, you don't want to

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rub them up the wrong tree,
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up the wrong tree. Uh yeah, I'll go into more of the specifics

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on the spoilers, So I'll just
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the difference of Dylan and I think
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fan, you got to see it. But even Taylor, who's not,

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It's just so here's the best way
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That's a great thing. I love
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years because now before you have to
just believe me. Now there's record proofs.

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So ever since this movie was announced, I said, this is a

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bad idea all round. It was, and we'll get in this some spoilers,

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but introducing Jean Gray the way he
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solo screen time and then being like, we're gonna do Phoenix next was always

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a bad idea. So it was
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was one Apocalypse, not the Grace, and I'm some of that still likes

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that movie, not as much as
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it. There's still merrit in it. So it was one that's not the

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greatest movie. Two you have Simon
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all, he's written some X Men, he's produced, but he's never directed

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a movie. So we're got some
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like I said, the third one
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storyline right away, and we're just
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I could describe this movie is a
blind date. Now, the thing is,

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and let's say you don't like blind
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what I told you, And that's
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little nervous, I don't want to
go on this blind date and everything like

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that. And then you go on
a date and you're like, oh,

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this is actually going well, this
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then midway through the date she's like, oh, I'm in this cult or

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like I hate dogs, and you're
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downhill. And that's what this movie
was. Where I was I was not

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looking forward going into for many many
reasons. The reviews come out, people

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were kind of bashing and saying okay, and I already not had it much

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hype for all those reasons. And
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I was really enjoying. I was
liking the characters. I was like in

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sud their motivations. Other than some
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was enjoying it a lot, and
it felt this when they did say,

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oh, it's Jean's movie, it
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felt like it was like a nice
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and I felt like it was.
It was good, but it was as

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good as it could get because of
the setup before. I still think,

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oh, this would have been the
perfect Phoenix movie. No, it's just

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it was good and I had some
great moments in it, and there's it's

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not like there's one big twist or
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like this changes the whole movie.
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get worse and worse and worse,
and I like, I think I'm a

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little on the minority. I like
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action scenes I like, and I
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characters that are flip flopping with character
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a pro I would say that lots
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great in this movie. I agree, but I also think other people are

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good too. I think this is
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really liked what they had going on
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who I feel bad because I've been
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trashing, just like I really don't
want him as Batman. He's a good

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actor. I want his feet.
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Dylan and Kurt Will talking about writing
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great, but I think he did
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particular, and I really liked they
were doing something different. They had some

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James mcfoy play a different type of
Charles Xavier, but they didn't really dive

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into that. And that's where it's
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had all these things of you had
the Cure, you had Magneto, you

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had Jean, you had Dark Phoenix, you had Scott going on a bike

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somewhere you had all this stuff and
it was all about like the bike,

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it was all about random things.
All the stuff in this movie is centering

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around Jean, but it's still a
bunch of different storylines breaking off from that

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don't really that are all in there
by themselves like good ideas, but they

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don't take a deep dive into any
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what really sucks is they say it's
Jean's movie, and it kind of is,

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but it's really not because there's lots
where it's just there's so many other

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characters talking about this, so that
and the villain in this movie is not

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good. It's it's really lame.
It's really like two thousand's bad comic book

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movie stuff. And it's really disappointing
because that woman has an oscar on a

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shelf and she's a great actress.
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of a villain at all. So
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I think the actors tried their best. I don't think there's any really bad

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acting in here. They try their
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said, it just just win downhill
really quickly. And it's very disappointing that

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this is the end. I'll just
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I kind of count that as my
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And even them don't trash it.
People go, oh, of course,

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it's another ax Men movie by FOXX. They gave us great movies.

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Logan and Deadpool, Disney would have
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so they really have created won the
greatest franchises of all time. Unfortunately,

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they got a lot of black marks
on it, and that's this is

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one of them. And Kirk will
ask you, because I made you predict

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this on the rankings episode, where
would you actually rank this in the non

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splayers for the movies? I think
I, oh, geez, Because while

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I was watching it, I was
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felt like it was kind of on
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like I already mentioned, like the
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the movie starts pretty good, but
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is kind of promising, like what
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gonna be a good movie exactly.
I had those thoughts and I'm like,

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I'm comparing it to. Yeah,
it's definitely better than like Origins. Oh,

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I think I personally like it more
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just so much random shit going on. But uh, for like Apocalypse though,

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thinking of like iconic scenes like the
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like that's just such a like like
well done scene and like how he

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like he sold it emotionally, like
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from that one scene alone raised it
above this movie for me. So i'd

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say icon like, we're not gonna
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couldn't name you a scene where I
walked with and oh there's one scene in

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this movie that was great, you
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like kind of like a like a
sequence of kind of what happens like that's

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my preferred for the movie, but
totally like I could not think of an

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iconic scene like like kind of with
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and then for me personally, I
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really really like the quick silver scene
in the Mansions. So yeah, like

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some iconic scenes right from that,
whereas this one I can't. So I

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definitely put it probably I can't remember
specifically. Three was Origins X three and

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then A Yeah, I think that
was like across the board. Wasn't that

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all three of you? Yeah,
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pretty yeah, and I think you
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but yeah, so it's definitely worse
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I feel like it's it's almost tied
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originally watch it might be a Dylan
effect, like I was like, oh,

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this is a pretty cool movie,
but then when we re watched it,

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it's just like, man, I
can't like I must have just been

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young and dumb or something. Just
a lot of like big mess going on.

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there. Okay, Yeah, so

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if you're a diehard. You didn't
answer the question, Kirkling giftive answer,

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did I said, like tied with
the last? Or is that okay?

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I'll put it. It's important looking
back, especially with the Red sho Okay,

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I was gonna say something comes to
you and says you have to watch

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one of these movies, which one
would you pick? That's always the way

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I say it. I'd say this
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I was because of the action scenes
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take over. And and that's why
if you're die hard, it might spoil

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the score. I think it's almost
identical X three, but I would put

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it below X three because even though
I love Fastbender, they don't kind of

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allude his magneto is not the greatest
in this movie. And X three you

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still got Hugh Jackman and Hugh Jackman's
fucking gret Fair. And that's where X

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three I think has more rewatchability as
like it's bad good, where this is

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not a bad good, it's just
that depressing where it's like, oh,

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we're doing this, we're doing this. It's like they feel like this is

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gonna be big, an epic,
but it's like, no, it's not.

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It's just like it's then it's not
fan forstic where it does get bad

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in but it's not like a disaster. It's just like, oh, this

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is a boring choice and all this
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like that just fair points. But
I also feel like what they did

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with uh, last Stan, it
was just they tried to throw so much

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in like on the in the same
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like they had some like especially like
the villains that they had in there.

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It like it wasn't a big I
don't know what you'd call it, kind

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of like when you go to go
to seven to eleven you get a slurp

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and you get all the flavors.
Like I feel like that's what Last Stan

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was. It was just a big
mess, right like oh, like I

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kind of regret that it just tastes
like swamp. But this to me is

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like you went to go get one
flavor and it was all watery and mush

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and you're like, oh, like
maybe I should have took that swamp water

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least it's a full slush like this
is like the maybe that's like a it's

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like a personal thing though maybe some
people do like or prefer that watery thing

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as opposed to the swamp water.
Maybe you prefer the swamp water or a

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mix of I've had that similar situation
where I went there to get a certain

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flavor and they only had like just
all these random fruity flavors and stuff.

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Yeah on was you never hear explosion? You know what I did? I

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just fucking left. I just left. No, Like, you brought up

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some good points having Hugh Jackman in
there, but I don't know, like

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when I compare like the Magnetos,
for example, Magneto and Last Stand,

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I really wasn't a fan of his. Oh yeah, fair enough, but

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I feel like I can when we
get into sports, he's almost like Last

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and again, where he's doing stuff
that easily Last Stand. You know,

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last time I saw it was Yeah, probably maybe spoilers because I feel like

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we're starting, Yeah, we're stalling. We're so okay, So this is

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it three to one geek versus symbol, So let's get a spoiled. So

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my whole thing is, let's start
with Magneto, because it's brought up anything

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like that. He's to me,
he's always been the MVP since they took

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over. I legitimately think if we
because I don't know if we'll do the

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logistics of it, but I want
to because next year is twenty twenty.

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I want to do a Golden Geeks
the past decade, and I think he's

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an automatic for one movie of like
a Golden Geek film of like the past

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ten right from twenty ten tow I
can see. It's such a hard question

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to answer because if I have to
take this movie into account, then that

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sucks for him. No, no, we pick one specific movie. Yeah,

406
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,759
yeah, no, no, Yeah, we're going days Peach Pass first.

407
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,759
Yeah, we're not saying like as
a career. Well. Once again,

408
00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:44,519
that's tricky though, because such it's
an ensemble cast. So I don't

409
00:23:44,519 --> 00:23:47,000
know if I could just I don't
know if he has like enough content any

410
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,400
particular movie, but for one one
is like when we have our best villain

411
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,440
category, I mean, yeah,
yeah, I think he's worthy. I

412
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,279
think he is. But that's what
we'll talk about. Man, that's a

413
00:23:55,279 --> 00:23:56,960
big discussion, right. Yeah.
I don't know if I can just say,

414
00:23:57,079 --> 00:24:00,160
like, you clearly thought about it
already, as I haven't thought about

415
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,200
the whole decade, So I can't
just say, anybody anywhere, I think

416
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,359
you got Day's feu pass and first
class one of those I think he is

417
00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:11,160
these past few years. And I
think next to Ledger's Joker, we got

418
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,839
Thanos up there and for me,
kill Monger, Loki. I think he's

419
00:24:12,839 --> 00:24:18,200
easily in that top five top three
is great villains. He's so passed Ian.

420
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:19,839
My problem is so like an X
three, he talked about how he's

421
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,920
kind of not himself. I was
liking how they introduced him of Oh,

422
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,920
I think he's gonna be like this, like peaceful, like well he's even

423
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,000
talking about that. When Gene goes
up to him, it's just like,

424
00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:33,720
yeah, I don't kill anymore.
Yeah right. But that's the problem where

425
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,039
I'm like, oh, this is
cool. It's like because every X Men

426
00:24:37,079 --> 00:24:38,240
we always do get a different Magnetu. I'm like, oh, we're gonna

427
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,839
get like this peaceful Magneto. And
we've seen him, of course fighting the

428
00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:44,480
trailers, but I thought it was
gonna be always backs against the wall and

429
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,119
he has to fight, and so
he gives this whole speech. Yeah okay,

430
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,640
we said, was right, So
this is your last chance. He

431
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,160
gives this whole speech to Gene,
which I liked. I think I don't

432
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,559
know if Dylan's fan the dialogue.
I think some of the dialogue is pretty

433
00:24:56,599 --> 00:25:00,240
generic and they're just like, oh, I stopped killing and it hell and

434
00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:02,160
it's like okay, so it's just
like what we kind of heard, like

435
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,240
Dexter said this before. I think, like, yeah, I know,

436
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,880
it just feels like a like a
Comico move from like early two thousands of

437
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,680
coming right, where it's just they
just have like generic action movie lines.

438
00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:11,799
Yeah, but either way, I
like the way he's acting it, the

439
00:25:11,799 --> 00:25:15,160
way he's portraying it does seem that
he has evolved and he's not that man

440
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,599
anymore. And then what happens is
five ten minutes later, be shows up,

441
00:25:19,599 --> 00:25:23,559
Oh he killed Raven uh and then
Hank just drops a line like I

442
00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:26,640
need you to find her. Well, if I find her, I'll kill

443
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,680
her in the hankles I know.
So literally we had this whole big speech

444
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,799
and moment where he's like, I'm
not that man anymore, and because he

445
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,079
literally says killing didn't help me,
so I stopped. And then what does

446
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,200
he do five minutes later, Well, we gotta kill we gotta kill Gene,

447
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,039
don't we. So to me,
he has that same thing at three

448
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:45,720
where it's like what is uh,
what is he like at the end of

449
00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:49,119
Apocalypse, like what kind of magneto
do we get there? He is?

450
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,240
So the whole thing is he has
his family, right, he retired,

451
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:55,200
his family gets killed, and that's
where he's like, yeah, fuck the

452
00:25:55,279 --> 00:26:00,039
human So it goes with Apocalypse and
at the end he turns into a hero

453
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,480
of Apocalypse kind of has the upper
hand and he takes these metal and he

454
00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:07,359
throws a big giant X and he
says, I'm like I need to Yeah,

455
00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:10,400
I need to choose my family.
So it ended with and he was

456
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,319
at the Manchu with Charles being like, you know, like good luck everything.

457
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,319
So he had already turned like fully
good guy and we went back to

458
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,039
like you can argue he's like a
good guy trying to do good, but

459
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,799
he just that's what I hate that
he turned that corner. And I thought

460
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:25,519
they should have done They should have
never and we'll get into they should have

461
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,640
never done the whole X men versus
X men thing, because that was end

462
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,559
up being pointless. It should have
been them all as a unit together.

463
00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:34,559
They gotta have their differences, but
all as a unit trying to take Gene

464
00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:37,480
down. So I hated that he
was this new Magneto and then five minutes

465
00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:41,519
later, No, they just killed
that. There's no point to it.

466
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:44,279
Don't have him say any of that
stuff about I don't kill anymore. Yeah,

467
00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:45,079
well, like the two teams that
were trying to get Gene, I

468
00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:49,039
feel like it was the angry team, which was like Hank and Magneto,

469
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,960
and then it was like the people
that were trying to help her, right,

470
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,519
So like that, Yeah, I
would have agreed if or sorry,

471
00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:57,319
I would have appreciated more if they
could have just you know, we need

472
00:26:57,319 --> 00:27:00,000
to help Gene, we need to
like stop her off sleep from harming anyone

473
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,640
else. But it was just Magneto
was totally flipped a switch, just full

474
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,319
angry. And then and that's the
problem again because then he flips the switch

475
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,680
at the end and she's like,
you're Protector, I've had a change of

476
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,720
herror. Why then, why like
it just definitely RADI why it could have

477
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,160
been simply fixed if they had that
the situation where he's up against Phoenix and

478
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,440
maybe he like has the upprehend and
he has the opportunity to kill her,

479
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,720
but then he doesn't because he just
said earlier, like, oh, that's

480
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:26,599
not the kind of person I am. I don't want to do this right,

481
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,920
And then and then that she can
like kind of break out, and

482
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,240
then you can have the thing where
she's still trucking around like he's trying to

483
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,160
be like, yeah, I could
be that old Magneto. I could kill

484
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,880
her, and then he's like,
no, what's the point, But he

485
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,599
does. He just like for some
reason, Scott has this line of just

486
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,559
like that's what a raven would have
wanted, and it's just like, really,

487
00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:47,160
that's like your whole thing that changes
Beasts and Magneto and all of them,

488
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:52,079
Like that's the so frustrating that they
change their motivations like three times within

489
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,559
one movie, and it's like,
what are we doing here? I don't

490
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,839
I don't get it, don't get
it. Yeah, it seemed very unnecessary

491
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,000
and I don't know. I would
say that that that fight scene as well,

492
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,160
like between the two X teams,
this is probably my least favorite of

493
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,279
the action. I agree, I
did think it was I thought it was

494
00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:12,559
fine, but you have like multiple
cuts of Cyclops shooting Magneto and him holding

495
00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:15,039
like a piece of metal, and
it keeps cutting back to it though,

496
00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:18,000
and he shows it like four times
and exager holds that girl there for quite

497
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,519
a while. Oh yeah, yeah, it's a it's a weird scene.

498
00:28:21,519 --> 00:28:25,119
And then you have like that Medusa
guy with like the whip hair. We've

499
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,160
never never met him before, but
he reminded me of a fucking grip hook

500
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,319
or that's exactly what I'm like,
Oh no, that was DC. Can't

501
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:37,000
be the same guy. I know
he had like the same style and everything.

502
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,319
I'm gonna see who played him,
because you never know, you never

503
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,279
know. He's the kind of guy
to get in the superhero draft. All

504
00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:44,119
right, I'm an X Men.
Now here we go and it's like,

505
00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:48,720
oh, I'm playing this guy,
but you no, I totally agree with

506
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,799
what you're saying on Magneto there,
right, it just makes him feel like

507
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:56,000
a flat character, like even though
he technically has like I don't know,

508
00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:59,759
a dynamic story there, it's just
so poorly written and so rushed. And

509
00:28:59,799 --> 00:29:03,640
that's that's kind of the problem with
a lot of the motivation like Phoenix Dark

510
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,000
Phoenix across the board Jean Gray.
I should say like her story is pretty

511
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:10,240
good, but I just think like
a lot of it feels rushed right where

512
00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:14,599
there's like increments of like how much
she's turned kind of evil and how much

513
00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:17,559
he's not. And I don't know, I think pacing issues are all over

514
00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:18,799
the place. But yeah, that's
for Magneta Like it sucks, but I

515
00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:22,680
don't think I have like anything else
to sound him like there there isn't really

516
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,279
any scenes. I guess. The
one thing that I really just liked as

517
00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:29,240
well was his ending scene with Xavier
where he like goes to sit down and

518
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,880
play chess, because that could have
been such a nice scene, but to

519
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,480
me, the dialogue was just so
lame that I didn't it didn't have like

520
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:38,200
a satisfying like button on the end
of it. No, I totally agree.

521
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,559
It's like it could have been such
a idea of that scene, such

522
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:45,519
a beautiful execution, especially like they've
done that back with Geez I'm blanking E

523
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,880
McKellen and Patrick Stewart. Yeah,
every movie, like they always have that,

524
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,640
so especially if they're ending the series
with those two guys, like those

525
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,599
two characters not necessarily actors, but
they've been a part of this whole thing.

526
00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:59,839
Like I feel like they just tripped
on the delivery though, And it

527
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:03,000
definitely sketchy dialogue. It isn't It
has to do with what Trav's is saying

528
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,720
too, where he's like gonna kill
Phoenix and he's he's evil again, but

529
00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:10,359
then he's just not. And in
that scene they're just like Palace right.

530
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,759
It's just none of it really fit
together well. And you have to wonder

531
00:30:12,759 --> 00:30:15,920
if there's like more scenes that were
meant to be in the middle of those

532
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,839
two that either got cut or just
didn't work reshoots. Who knows what happened

533
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:25,200
there, but overall just made Magneto
a really lame character. Yeah, it

534
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:27,200
might not be the greatest, but
I like that that's where the movie ends,

535
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,079
if this is the last one such
thing where I don't mind it,

536
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,279
and I do like him being like, oh, well, you know,

537
00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:36,559
he helped me out once in life
and kind of calling back to even their

538
00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:41,920
meeting, not even the McKellen's Stewart
one. So I didn't mind it.

539
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,480
The scenes that I liked it because
the dialogue wasn't the greatest. Place.

540
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,079
I liked the scene with him and
Jane. I thought at that point,

541
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,400
oh, we're getting different type Magneto. I liked that scene him and a

542
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,599
hankk had By the campfire of talking
about Rave and how they both like loved

543
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,039
her differently, and even the scene
where he finds out that mystique is dead

544
00:30:56,119 --> 00:31:02,640
Fastbender he told he's I think he's
the Hollywood of like selling that someone important

545
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,519
has died to him, and you
just feel it because just he just walks

546
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:08,240
away and he's just holding that airplane, and any other movie would have him

547
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,839
like throw something or be really mad, but it's just like and that's where

548
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:14,319
no shot endgame. But like you
look at Hallky just throws a bench right

549
00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:17,440
like it's just a subtle moment.
He's just standing there. The camera's on

550
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:19,000
him for a while, tears dropping, and then he turns around. He's

551
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,680
like cycle killer. But yeah,
those are like the scenes I liked of

552
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,079
his But that for me, I
don't understand why we took the detour into

553
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:32,839
civil war route because also his beasts. I get that he's angry. I

554
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,599
did not buy that he would just
want to flat out murder Raven or murder

555
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:40,079
sorry, murder Gene. In my
opinion, I just has never been set

556
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,759
up because his anger is not that
kind of character. No, and his

557
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:45,960
anger in this movie is at Charles. It's not at her. So if

558
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,960
anything, it's like I wouldn't buy
it either. But if you're like,

559
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,720
I'm gonna try to kill Charles and
okay, maybe I guess, but it's

560
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:56,400
not like I felt like he perfectly
understood that Gina can't control this and with

561
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,240
Charles kind of fault. But then
no, let's he just resources to straight

562
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:01,960
up murder. I don't do you
think? Do you guys feel like he

563
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,480
got a power upgrade in this movie? Like, I don't know. I

564
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:07,319
haven't watched the pocalyps recently. I
don't think so. I think he just

565
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:10,759
didn't have many actions scenes. That's
the problem in any of them. Yeah,

566
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:13,799
so it's just like we've never seen
we just felt like, well,

567
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:16,599
he was just whipping a think about
like he was angry, right, So

568
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,400
I feel like I feel like you
get just more adrenaline if you're if you're

569
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,079
angry, especially if you're a beast. But does that power him up?

570
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:25,839
Like in the comics, it's just
it powers you up as a human,

571
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,440
right, yeah, adrenaline? Any? Yeah, I guess. So,

572
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,960
Yeah, I just curious since we're
I mean, do we have anything else?

573
00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:36,079
Sam Fastbender? Really No, I
was gonna beast? Yeah, well,

574
00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:38,119
okay, that's exactly perfect. I'm
in the right in the right class

575
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:45,680
war going to hank uh if you
tune into our retro. I'm a notorious

576
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:47,799
hater of this guy. What's his
name again, Nicholas. Yeah, like

577
00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:51,720
not the actor, not the actor
in general, just like what he does

578
00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:55,160
with this character. I actually I
think this is I know it like he's

579
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,440
really bad in this, but I
feel like this is where I like him

580
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:00,599
kind of the most, honestly,
because I don't think he's really bad or

581
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:05,279
do you mean the characters really bad? Well, like what they did with

582
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:07,680
him. Okay, I'm not a
fan. I'm making sure he wasn't taking

583
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,559
shots at Holt again. No,
no, no, Like like I saw

584
00:33:09,599 --> 00:33:13,480
him recently in the this Tolkien movie. He plays Tolkien, and I'm a

585
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,440
big fan of his. Now is
a good movie. He's good. Yeah,

586
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,279
it's a really good movie. I'll
check it out. I thought it

587
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:20,440
would be just kind of like some
bland biopic, but it actually was very

588
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,599
emotional, well done. Awesome to
check it out. But I also feel

589
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,519
just like the look in general,
like this is definitely the best he's looked

590
00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:29,559
like. I remember I was just
shitting on the way he was talking,

591
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:31,359
like he just looked like he was
so like plastic y. It was almost

592
00:33:31,359 --> 00:33:35,000
like he just had so much botox, Like when he would talk, you

593
00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:37,480
like couldn't even see his lips move
or is this one it seemed like they

594
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:40,039
just did like more of like uh
like makeup as opposed to him wearing like

595
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:43,240
a big mask. So I don't
know, Like for me, it just

596
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:46,440
it looked a lot better when he
was talking in like the beast form,

597
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,799
so like that was a plus on
that or sorry, that was like that

598
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,720
was a plus on that character.
But I feel like once once we got

599
00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:57,519
into those later acts, it's just
following the theme of this movie, Like

600
00:33:57,519 --> 00:33:59,799
once we got later on, it
just was going to shit. Like when

601
00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:04,759
he is obviously everyone's pretty choked up
about Raven, I feel like Charles would

602
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:07,440
almost be like the most choked up
about anyone, because like he's known her

603
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:12,159
the longest, but like beasts just
full on just like this is your fault.

604
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:15,360
I'm so mad. I like that
scene. I like that in the

605
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,320
kitchen, Yeah, yeah, because
I like that he's like, oh this

606
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,079
is where I first met callback,
Yeah, And I think that's where a

607
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:22,880
whole showed he was a good actor, Like I like, it wasn't the

608
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,159
same thing. He was doing the
angry yelling cry kind of like the reverse

609
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:29,679
of Fastpenner. But I didn't come
off as cheesey in that moment. I

610
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,760
love they just like smashes the ball
and everything. So I liked him in

611
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,119
that moment. I really liked to
when Raven did die. I think he

612
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:37,239
sold that really well, which impressive
for those two because they are a next

613
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,280
couple, so you gotta be that
yeah in real life, so to be

614
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:45,360
up close you know X couple good
Yeah yeah, but uh yeah. Me

615
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,960
personally, I like, I like
the setup of the scene and I like

616
00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:52,639
the acting of it, but the
dialogue it just struck down from me,

617
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:54,480
Like I didn't like just what he
was saying to Charles, like this is

618
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:57,480
all your fault, Like it just
didn't make sense. But She's like,

619
00:34:57,519 --> 00:34:59,920
he's a pretty smart guy. Maybe
I don't know. Maybe you can argue

620
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,239
that it's just the emotions blinding him, right, But I don't know.

621
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,360
For me personally, I just wasn't
don't think that it makes sense for him

622
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,639
to think it's Exavier's fault. M
No, Well, this is the this

623
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:16,199
is the problem. That they've they've
muddled it because Apocalypse ended with her destroying

624
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:22,039
blips upon say that three tons fast
Apocalypse by her starting to turn into the

625
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:25,360
Phoenix Force, and like I was
supposed to and that's not the way it

626
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,480
happens to comics, but sort of
hinting that, Okay, she has something

627
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:32,960
inside her. So to me,
if they just went with that and it

628
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:36,679
was, oh, Charles locked this
power away and it came out, then

629
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,920
to me, I'd be like,
oh, it is his it's fully his

630
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:42,440
fault. But this wasn't his fault
that some I guess made the space mission,

631
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,840
but he didn't know there's gonna be
a fucking they just thought was solar

632
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,519
shit. They didn't. He didn't
know it was gonna be some alien life,

633
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,920
so it was gonna take her over. So that's why I wish they

634
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,000
didn't even do any of that,
But that's why they had to interest the

635
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:52,800
villain, which we'll get into.
But so that's what I mean, Like,

636
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,440
I think he has like fifty percent
his fault, but really it's like,

637
00:35:55,679 --> 00:36:00,679
if Jeane didn't get attached by this
alien force she was probably wouldn't have

638
00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:02,119
been fine, and her life would
have continued So that's why I don't get

639
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:07,880
why Classic X Men they just like
they literally, well it's so sloppy.

640
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,719
They literally did something to end their
movie and they just ignored it. They

641
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:15,239
just ignored it. I don't I
didn't take it that Feast was upset that

642
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,679
or he wasn't blaming Xavier for like
giving her that power. He was blaming

643
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,039
him for like bottling up those emotional
things that he that like at some point

644
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:28,280
would come out and then just make
her really angry. Yeah, but was

645
00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:30,639
that even like why she killed Raven. I feel like it was one hundred

646
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:35,599
percent because she absorbed all that power
though from space like like bodily up those

647
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:39,199
memories obviously, like it kind of
had an effect with just the amount of

648
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,360
power that she had from like the
dark Phoenix force, Like would you even

649
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,400
call it, Like do they even
mention that it's the Phoenix that she absorbs

650
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,239
or she already had the Phoenix in
her? I don't know if they.

651
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,039
Well they did say the alien lady
said it was attracted to her and that's

652
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,280
why it was there because it was
like and she's powering towards her, So

653
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,880
clearly she had something inside of her
already, like a part of it.

654
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,840
Who knows how much, but I
mean that was probably what was giving her

655
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,880
power in the first place. It
made her like a mutant, yes,

656
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,880
but she clearly obviously could turned to
a flaming bird. I don't think so

657
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,480
in this movie. I think they're
trying to say that she's just a regular

658
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,679
mutant that got this power and it
was just attractor because she's a powerful mutant.

659
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,920
I'm not saying you and I are
right, because they don't explain it

660
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,800
at all. And that's my other
they do it. They just explain it

661
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,920
very, very like quickly. Oh
yeah, even Vogue or Vague who get

662
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,199
that's her name is she does like
the whole ego from Guardians two explanation this

663
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,360
is the plan and we can make
a better world, and it's just like,

664
00:37:32,639 --> 00:37:37,000
oh boy, here we go.
And the other thing is because I

665
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:39,599
know we're gonna done the villa when
you're talking about Hank's motivations and with Gene

666
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:44,840
and we don't we're not clear if
like this would have made her become psycho

667
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,599
or whatnot. For me, it
didn't. But the other thing is I

668
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:49,679
felt you want to say whatever you
want about X three, and I don't

669
00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:52,480
think it's done the greatest. But
you can see when she's Gene and you

670
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:55,360
see when she's Phoenix. There's times
in this movie I didn't feel that I

671
00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,440
could understand if Gene like it felt
like it was Gene and join this power,

672
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:01,920
not the Phoenix taking over. That
was a big call for me,

673
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,000
because sometimes it did feel like full
in Phoenix on Evil, But other times

674
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:08,400
she's talking as Gene and then she
just slowly turns to Evil and they could

675
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,119
try and say, oh, we're
trying to go for the subtle approach.

676
00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:14,199
I don't think. I think it
just was wishy washed. You're like,

677
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,280
I don't understand as she enjoying this? Is she not? I felt the

678
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:21,480
whole relationship with the Phoenix was really
muddled and I didn't understand a lot of

679
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,760
it. I didn't understand, who
is this character that I'm watching? Is

680
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,199
she like when she makes Charles walk
up those stairs, like, I don't

681
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,039
know, is this Gene just feeling
evil? Is this the Phoenix? I

682
00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:34,079
know, I think Phoenix, I
know, but it was it's just straight

683
00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:36,760
line. The line was very like
Gray. I guess, yeah, I

684
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,320
just feel that when they're talking.
I don't know, it just it.

685
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:42,440
I don't think they did a good
job of portraying the phoenix powers. Yeah,

686
00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:46,239
like I feel like a lot of
it's kind of left for interpretation because

687
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:51,239
I feel like like there's certain moments. I mean, it's like there are

688
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,119
moments that it is very obvious,
like when she goes full I don't know

689
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:57,440
what you'd call it, just like
glowy veines, like her eyes get all

690
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,519
intense and she's just all pissed,
like that's obviously the Phoenix. But then

691
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:04,320
there's scenes like when she goes to
meet her your father and uh, like

692
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,760
she's all friendly because she hasn't seen
her dad for whatever, and then she's

693
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,559
just looking at the images and just
her tone kind of changes and the way

694
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:12,960
she talks it's just very like flat. It's like why is there no photos?

695
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,639
And yeah, so like that,
it's like, Okay, I feel

696
00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:19,039
like she's the Phoenix right now,
but it's really not clear like whatsoever,

697
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:22,440
because she still looks the same,
whereas, like you mentioned in last stand,

698
00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:24,119
she totally looks different when she's the
Phoenix, Like her eyes go like

699
00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:28,480
basy black and she just looks all
all intense and like, yeah, I

700
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:30,159
understood that when she's bringing Charles up. That is the Phoenix. It's just

701
00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:34,239
I feel that the switches in between, and maybe that's what they're going for.

702
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,960
It was very subtle. She can
any second become Phoenix. But I

703
00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:39,760
don't think they didn't make the personalities
too different. That was the problem.

704
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,039
It still felt like Gene was talking
through the Phoenix. I guess it was

705
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:46,079
because not done well. I mean, I can't remember back to like when

706
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:50,159
in is it in X two that
you get introduced to the dark Phoenix?

707
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,199
Uh, just at the very end
it's hinted at because that's it's not the

708
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,119
dark Phoenix, that's just the Phoenix
dead or is there a difference? So

709
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,079
by the time I guess you're in
X three, like she's potentially had that

710
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:01,800
Dark Phoenix in her for some time. They take the approach that she's had

711
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,320
that since a child, and they
do the same thing where child blocked her

712
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,920
memory and took stuff out and put
some walls up, and she's had it

713
00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:13,280
with her and maybe that's why they
changed it to be like this alien force.

714
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,320
But they still that's what I mean, I don't know, they still

715
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,840
insinuate that's maybe with her, maybe
not, but so an extray. It's

716
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,480
been with her whole life and it
just woke up. Yeah. Yeah,

717
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,599
I agree with what you said earlier
that it's like just kind of ambiguous,

718
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:27,880
like they don't really you don't really
know for sure, And that's kind of

719
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,679
how I feel about the beast thing
as well. Like maybe I'm just wrong,

720
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,559
but I just I took that scene
of why he's mad at exaviera like

721
00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:36,519
completely differently, and I think a
way to fix that was like almost in

722
00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:40,320
this movie where you have that scene
with Raven when she's talking to Xavier about

723
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:45,519
like what he's doing, like how
he's risking their people in like in favor

724
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:47,519
of the humans. And I feel
like if there's maybe a scene where Raven

725
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,800
and beasts talk and she expresses her
frustration with like that conversation with beasts,

726
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,800
like maybe that would have like fully
explained why he was mad at him.

727
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:01,039
Yeah, she does just attack he's
not the same Charles that used to be

728
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:05,199
and then kind away Yeah, but
like maybe she I mean, maybe it's

729
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,519
not entertained for the viewer to just
see that scene like spoken again, but

730
00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:10,079
obviously you can be creative with it. But if they just like if she

731
00:41:10,159 --> 00:41:13,880
goes more in depth there, then
maybe it gives more reason for Beasts to

732
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:17,599
just yeah, be mad at Xavier
and and I mean because it's not that's

733
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:21,280
not just the implication. The implication
is that he's also down to just kill

734
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,519
her. Right, So it shows
there's clearly a big shift has happened,

735
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,599
and we just kind of see like
a quarter or made like half of it.

736
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,400
So the ambiguous the ambiguity between like
with Dark Phoenix and g Gray,

737
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:35,400
is also kind of with like Beasts
and his motivations, and I guess it's

738
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,000
kind of it's just like all the
characters, Like the only people that don't

739
00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:43,159
have that is Cyclops and Storm,
but they're like Scott is just I love

740
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,199
you. He has a very simple
story. Yeah, and Storm is just

741
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,800
there to do badass. She just
looks cool. Yeah, and that's it.

742
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,320
I am glad she is the voice
though kill What was I saying?

743
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:59,639
Sorry I threw you off with that, I don't remember. I guess to

744
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,119
just talk talk more on things.
I pretty much I pretty much agree with

745
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:06,840
you guys. I like you said
in your sport of the Free section,

746
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,320
Like I think for the most part, she does have like a maybe not

747
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,360
in the most part, but she
does have a lot of really good lines

748
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,599
in there, and there is like
a development to it. It just kind

749
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:16,679
of gets murky in the last like
half of the movie or something like that.

750
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,320
I don't know when exactly, but
I don't know. There is like

751
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,639
a progression to it where it's like
taking more control of her, and it

752
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,239
just maybe if they made that a
little more clear, like when she's in

753
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,880
it and when she's not, and
like I guess they kind of show like

754
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,719
some of the triggers, Like one
of them is like the campfire triggers it,

755
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,199
and then one of them is like
when she's in her dad's house and

756
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,639
like there's no pictures of her,
and it's I don't know, those are

757
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,639
like two very different things. And
I don't know, is do you have

758
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:43,559
any other examples off the top of
your head of things that like turn her

759
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:45,719
into it, because near the end
of the movie it kind of just happens.

760
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,480
Well, I feel like I feel
like it's when she thinks about like

761
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:52,400
Charles kind of controlling her and like
putting up those walls because I don't know,

762
00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:54,800
she feels like they're just like toning
down her power where it's like this

763
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,119
is me, this is the way
should be anytime police or military show up.

764
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:02,679
Yeah, so those are very like, very very different things that that

765
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,719
change like turn her into that mode. So maybe it is just like,

766
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,039
oh, it's just she's losing control. Every once in a while she goes

767
00:43:09,079 --> 00:43:12,039
into it. But I don't know. Maybe there's like a meaningful reason for

768
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:14,440
it that could be a little more
interesting. But then maybe that's hard to

769
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,679
do if if it's supposed to happen
like that, change is supposed to happen

770
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:20,559
multiple times. Well, and that's
why it's a personal thing. When you're

771
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:22,400
saying, oh, mystique, talking
to beast wouldn't been exciting to me.

772
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:25,480
One of the things I liked the
most was Dick had Charles at the beginning.

773
00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:29,559
I liked seeing this new Charles of
like they're on a roll. He's

774
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:31,960
cock, he's pompous, and yeah, they only explains like I'm not a

775
00:43:32,039 --> 00:43:35,679
fanist, but I'm doing it because
I want us to survive. And I

776
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,400
do love the line of you know, one bad thing and we can go

777
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,320
back to where we were years ago. So I liked like and Charles has

778
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:45,000
always been kind of he's a very
nice, folly figure, but at times

779
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:49,159
he's kind of a little doe she
especially in OGI like when the x mccomics

780
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:52,960
first started, he was he's an
asshole, like more an Ashley. He's

781
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,880
gotten nicer over the year. So
I like that idea of just he was

782
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,639
more about the mission and like he
was getting past him. And in this

783
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,360
movie they spend very local the second
mystique dies, that storyline's done with like

784
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,639
beasts like carries on, but they
don't. They have one convo when he

785
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,519
yells at him. That's it.
But I like that idea of and that's

786
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:10,679
the thing where to me, the
tying of like I think they should have

787
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,920
chose either to do the alien villains
or to make the whole movie a problem

788
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,159
with X Men versus X men,
because to me, you don't do the

789
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:22,400
Civil War stuff if you got alien
villains running around, because that's too much.

790
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,840
But if they would have done a
whole like I know it could be

791
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,400
similar Civil War, but if you
do a different spin about a moral tail

792
00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:30,039
of hey you've been doing this and
look at yourself, kind of like what

793
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:32,920
Tony Stark was in Civil War,
right, Like he's going too far.

794
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,639
He thinks this is best for the
group, but locking everyone up, is

795
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,400
like he can't see that. You're
becoming so bad. You're locking your friends

796
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,119
up, You're putting them in prison, Like what are you doing? You're

797
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:45,679
destroying this team. And they literally
set that up and they and yeah,

798
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,719
Charles like he apologized for it,
but it's all stuff we don't see.

799
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,360
It's like, it's what we talk
about with Tarantino when he does it,

800
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,519
well, the you know, tell
don't or show, don't tell. Tarantino

801
00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:57,159
can do that. Well, this
doesn't do that anytime. At the end,

802
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,679
Charles just I'm sorry for this,
and I should have done this.

803
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,599
I should have done this, and
I should have done that. But it's

804
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:04,239
like who cares, because it's just
we didn't get to see any of that.

805
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,599
It was a few combos. But
I liked that idea of ascl Charles

806
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:10,880
work with the president accepting awards,
and I liked that it's it's you get

807
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,840
that, and then you also get
some of the backstory scenes, the flashbacks

808
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,440
of him with Gene as a kid, and I liked all those scenes.

809
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,440
I thought they were really good and
it was like you, I don't know,

810
00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:22,639
you saw different sides to it,
and I like that that's part of

811
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:24,639
the reason why she comes back to
like the good side near the end is

812
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,920
those conversations because they kind of set
that up from the beginning. And yeah,

813
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,719
like you're right, Like I guess
I didn't really think about it before

814
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:35,039
starting, you know, hitting record
today, but really that character has gone

815
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:37,800
through like so many different arc changes
of personality, like entirely. Yeah,

816
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,239
oh exactly, Like even thinking back
to when we first got introduced to that

817
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,519
character and he was just you know, in the mansion by himself, just

818
00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:47,400
get drunk and his hero and stuff. Yeah it's cure heroin. Yeah,

819
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,360
Like we've come a long way with
that character, so it was fun to

820
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,239
see a different perspective of him.
And we didn't really I mean I haven't

821
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,440
seen X one or x x two
so much like we don't. We don't

822
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,079
get that kind of Charles and those
movies do. No, he's the father

823
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,039
figure, like I'm leading the team
a nice guy. X three is when

824
00:46:05,079 --> 00:46:07,239
you get it like a little bit
hinted because he like was doing so a

825
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,800
gene but same thing, they kill
him all it's different in this movie.

826
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,880
He just goes way, but next
year they kill him off. The better

827
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,840
answer like oh he was Yeah,
I was like, Oh well, they

828
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,039
even like tribute that in this movie, she like picks him up and is

829
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:22,760
doing exactly honestly thought he was gonna
die. I know, like, are

830
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,559
we kidding me? We're gonna do
exact same turns to dust, which is

831
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:29,800
strange to a tribute that movie.
But since we're talking about Charles, though,

832
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,519
I feel like because he does,
he definitely goes through like different phases

833
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:37,239
in this movie, like he's the
alcoholic, he's the charismatic guy shaking hands

834
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,719
with the president, and then he
goes back to being like the father figure,

835
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,280
like he kind of brings back Gene. I just felt like they did

836
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,599
so much stuff with him, like
he was just like instead of just diving

837
00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:49,760
into the like one thing that they
wanted to do with him, it just

838
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,960
felt like he kept like dipping his
toes and something. Oh no, and

839
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,360
then they're switching it up in a
different direction. And for me, I

840
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,960
didn't really I don't know, like
I didn't get time to like get fully

841
00:46:58,079 --> 00:47:00,079
like invest in what they were doing
with him. So for me, I

842
00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:02,920
wasn't really a big fan. Like
this is definitely I think the lowest movie

843
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,800
for Macvoy's Charles. For me,
personally out of all the ones that he's

844
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,320
been in. Yeah, Like,
I don't know, it's probably just a

845
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:15,159
writing thing because I think, yeah, good. I mean, even what

846
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,119
should be a potentially really emotional scene
when you know, they have the funeral

847
00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:22,039
for Raven and he's giving the speech
and it just feels like he's reading off

848
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,320
a script and not like he's not
emotional at it at all. And yeah,

849
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,880
they've had a lot of problems.
But yeah, even when she dies,

850
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,119
like as you mentioned earlier, he
he doesn't really emote a whole lot

851
00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:35,599
from that and that really should affect
him. And then after that the funeral

852
00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:37,960
scene, like does he bring it
up again? I don't even know if

853
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,400
it's because I guess Beast and him
have that conversation, yeah, because he's

854
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,880
like, how dare you? She's
my childhood friend? Because that's what I

855
00:47:44,159 --> 00:47:46,360
agree through that he felt cold in
that funeral scene. But I thought they

856
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,039
were gonna go through that the whole
movie that he's just really cold now,

857
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:52,800
But then he was. He was
cold. But then that scene with Hanky

858
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,559
is pretty emotional about it, so
you could say, oh, maybe he's

859
00:47:54,559 --> 00:47:58,000
trying to stay strong for the team, but he doesn't have to. It's

860
00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:00,440
just the X man, Like I
don't know it was. It was very

861
00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:04,280
strange pacing and what they chose to
do with him, which it sucks that.

862
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,599
I think he did everything same.
I think all the actors did good

863
00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:09,559
with what they had. I liked, I agree with Like when he was

864
00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:13,960
emotionally did that good When he was
being like a like kind of asshole charge.

865
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,000
I thought he pulled that off well
and I would like to see that

866
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:17,639
more. And like, don't talk
about the scene the flashbacks with Gene.

867
00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:21,280
I feel like old Charles. You
know. It's like the acting is definitely

868
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:22,280
not the problem in this movie,
which is a shame because you got all

869
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,159
these talented people, you know,
the one that I just comedic thing on

870
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,360
shows. You can tell that he
filmed some stuff around split because this is

871
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,079
like the most jacked Xavier has ever
been. Like sometimes yeah, it's like

872
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,880
you don't want to He was at
the cafe at the end. He's wearing

873
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,679
like a tight shirt and like he's
been mentioned, he's bigger than the beast

874
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,559
is coming. Yeah no, yeah, he looked he looked pretty jacked.

875
00:48:45,039 --> 00:48:46,760
It's funny coming off of sitting there, coming off of glass, like that

876
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,280
scene where he has to kind of
dementedly walk up the stairs, and like

877
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,800
macfull could definitely do that. That
wasn't a stun double like hen like he

878
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:59,079
practiced that in his own staircase at
home. Very disturbing scene. It was

879
00:48:59,159 --> 00:49:00,679
such a disturbing this this movie has
some of those dark moments in it,

880
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,400
and they take me out of it
because the whole movie like it's darker,

881
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,320
but it just because it's bad writing. I never really into it. But

882
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,039
when that happens, like it is
a big moment, but it just comes

883
00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:12,599
off as like this is just really
dark. I don't even know if we

884
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:15,159
need it. She could just picked
them up, but it like worked and

885
00:49:15,199 --> 00:49:16,199
didn't work for me. I don't
know. I'm still really uneasy about that

886
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:22,320
scene. I don't know. And
also Magneto just like puts a train through

887
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,840
the wall for absolutely no reason.
The block was the block block the door

888
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,559
there was the block cyclobes, Like
it wasn't the door there because he put

889
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:30,639
a train through the wall, Like, no, there was the door,

890
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,440
the regular door. We walked through
them put the train by. But I

891
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:37,079
still find that he could have just
like put the train in front of the

892
00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:39,199
door, like he didn't, you
know, he like put it through the

893
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:43,159
building, like just trash it through
the building. Oh well, yeah,

894
00:49:43,159 --> 00:49:45,320
he just he wanted to make a
statement. He wanted to make an entrance.

895
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:49,519
But like it didn't make much sense
because like Cyclops also told me,

896
00:49:49,639 --> 00:49:52,599
like before the movie or just in
the group chat or something that like they

897
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,039
changed the finale in the train.
I was like, it better not be

898
00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:57,880
that fucking train. There was a
lot of trains I felt like in this

899
00:49:58,039 --> 00:49:59,880
movie. So I was like,
oh, this is the last scene on

900
00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:02,320
okay, different train, Oh this
is the last okay okay, and I

901
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:07,360
will say too another They're like just
very lazy plot writing and plot armor for

902
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,079
Magneto. They do this big bill
about how Magneto is, you know.

903
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,760
Now he's like and I do like
it. The score anytime Ignido's on screen.

904
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:15,840
The score. I love. When
he was getting his old helmet out,

905
00:50:16,159 --> 00:50:21,159
that was I was expecting that the
helmet from fuck. I can't even

906
00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:25,719
remember the movie. Now they're all
intertwined from first class Sebastian Shaw first class,

907
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,440
yeah, ok yeah, first class. But when he's got like the

908
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,280
red helmet with like the no this
was the Apocalypse, I was like,

909
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,960
I was like, I want to
see it on, but I like that,

910
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:35,559
and I liked that scene. Again, I didn't like the context,

911
00:50:35,679 --> 00:50:37,559
but I like just him putting on
and just like that idea of I'm becoming

912
00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:42,400
that person again. But they I
like, well, no, I don't

913
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,639
like it. This is where we're
getting to. He makes this big deal

914
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:46,719
about how he's just his ultimate killer
and he's talking to Gene and Volk up

915
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:51,480
there and everything like that, and
then she stops him and she just makes

916
00:50:51,519 --> 00:50:52,760
him crack. But I'm oh,
you're a killer, he You're doing such

917
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,960
a poor job. And then she's
like, let me show you. Yeah,

918
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:00,760
and he doesn't. When later on
she does a bad braids people and

919
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,599
everything like that, she throws some
pieces of metal through him and like in

920
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,639
his shoulder and nothing happened. So
that was so lame because I thought,

921
00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:08,880
I agree. I thought, oh, they're gonna kill him off right here.

922
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,719
This is where it's going, because
I'm like, okay, because to

923
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,280
me, that would make sense of
he made this whole spiel about killing wasn't

924
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,719
the way. If he goes back
to killing and you kill him off,

925
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,239
it shows yeah, he was right, killing wasn't the way because look where

926
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:23,639
it led him six feet under.
No, he's fine. He gets out

927
00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:28,639
of the Scott free. He's off
in France with Charles doing chess or like.

928
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,320
But that was so lame that she
didn't kill him right there. I

929
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,440
feel like they, yeah, one
hundred percent agree with that. Like I

930
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:37,199
feel like he should have died there
and then even when I know it would

931
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,480
have been kind of lame because we've
already seen it, but I feel like

932
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,880
she also could have killed Charles there
because I don't know, like, although

933
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,119
Charles does kind of get through her
and like bring her back in, I

934
00:51:45,159 --> 00:51:47,559
don't know. I just feel like
it would have been a better sent off

935
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:51,159
for those two carecter instead of just
playing chess at the end. I think

936
00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:53,440
the I think they needed I think
they needed him alive because that's the only

937
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,199
way they could bring her back,
because that's a problem with her inside clubs,

938
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,039
just dating in this movie, like
he can bring her back, but

939
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,880
really he tried and he's like,
you said you'd always come back to me,

940
00:52:02,199 --> 00:52:04,920
and that didn't work. So it's
like, well, Scott, you

941
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,360
got nothing that is fair. I
guess I have some plot holes in my

942
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,960
theory. Yeah, well, I
don't think it's I think it's just they

943
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,400
got bad writing, and at the
end of the day, I think you're

944
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:15,400
right. But I'm still happy that
it ended with them playing chess. Not

945
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:16,719
the great scene, but I still
like that that's the last thing. I

946
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,960
agree. I hate that we get
some phoenix teas in the sky. It

947
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:23,079
was just like that's an annoying thing
too, that it's not like it's a

948
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,719
last movie. But it's not because
they do all this like setting up for

949
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,639
future movies. It's just like,
I thought, you guys had time to

950
00:52:29,679 --> 00:52:32,280
reshoot this. Why couldn't you just
do anything to not do like, oh,

951
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,840
look the phoenix still out there and
Hanks the teacher. Now. The

952
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,000
thing with that is I didn't mind
it because when she like lost her body

953
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,559
in space, I like, in
the back of my mind I knew that

954
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:44,840
she would be dying. Maybe maybe
I just know some know something about that

955
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,760
character, like it's the phoenix,
Like she just keeps reincarnie right, So

956
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,239
it's like, how is she supposed
to die there? So I don't know.

957
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,159
For me, although it is cheesy, I didn't mind it really.

958
00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:54,400
I was like, Okay, yeah, it's her movie. Let her fly

959
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:59,679
with the Phoenix Fly one last time, one last ride? Can we talk?

960
00:53:00,039 --> 00:53:01,679
Did anyone want to go anywhere?
Specifically? It sounds like YouTube.

961
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,199
I wanted to say something about Gene, but I lost it, so might

962
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,079
come back to me. I will
say, I gotta show this up because

963
00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:09,320
I'm so mad I didn't end the
non spoilers. I thought she was great

964
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,280
as Gene at the beginning of stuff
with Charles because I was not a fan

965
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,000
of her in Apocalypse. I was
fan when they cast her, and then

966
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:17,280
in Apocalypse, I think it's just
writing. We didn't spend much time in

967
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,400
there. I was again, I
don't know how I feel about Sophie Turners

968
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,840
Jean Gray. I really liked her
as she and great. I think she

969
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,920
did the Phoenix stuff good enough,
like it's you know, I've never been

970
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,960
a crazy person with the demon in
my mind, but a lot of CGI,

971
00:53:29,159 --> 00:53:31,079
yeah, she just kind of has
to you know, a lot of

972
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:37,119
floating, a lot of joint movements
and stuff. But her Gene stuff was

973
00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:38,920
really good and I like, even
loved Dazzler was in this movie. That

974
00:53:39,039 --> 00:53:43,159
was great. But I loved like
the party at the fire Pit. I

975
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,719
love seeing the X Man. That
was a better party than we did a

976
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,719
first class where they're just like hitting
each other with chairs and stuff like that.

977
00:53:49,039 --> 00:53:52,599
But I like that she's going around, she's having drinks like everything she

978
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,880
was in another like a shame that
you know, it's not a good movie

979
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,639
so whatever, but that we won't
see more of her. I really liked

980
00:53:58,679 --> 00:54:00,599
her as Gene, and she really
sold because in the Apocalypse I was not,

981
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,599
so I just wanted to shut that
out before I forgot that good.

982
00:54:02,679 --> 00:54:05,880
Yeah. I really was a big
fan of Sophie Turner in this year.

983
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,159
Yeah, I've already mentioned the non
spoilers. I feel like she was definitely

984
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:13,960
like a high point in this movie
just her acting wise, and I liked

985
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,440
it just a lot more in the
first bit, like when she is just

986
00:54:15,639 --> 00:54:19,960
full on Gene or I guess,
I guess after she gets the powers,

987
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,840
because then she's kind of breaking down
and then like you do see some of

988
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,159
that good acting like emotional wise.
Although I am watching Game of Thrones right

989
00:54:27,199 --> 00:54:30,039
now, so maybe it's just bias. I'm really liking that actress, so

990
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,360
uh, but I remember what I
was gonna say for her, just going

991
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,440
back to how we were talking about
how like blocking the memories and stuff,

992
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,320
and like how Hank was just full
on like this is the reason why she

993
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:45,800
killed Raven. I feel like like
because he did block those memories, Like

994
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:50,760
they are very dramatic and very I
don't know, like just just a mixed

995
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,159
bag of emotions. Like she she's
sad because she lost her mom, not

996
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,320
her full family, but or I
guess she she thought it was her full

997
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,280
family. But also like the anger
that they hid it from her, also

998
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,840
the anger that her dad didn't even
want her, right, Like that was

999
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:07,199
pretty harsh. But then you just
combine that with like this super overly power

1000
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,960
like dark Phoenix. I feel like
it just kind of like intertweed, intertweened,

1001
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,519
intertwined with like with each other.
Yeah, and it just like it

1002
00:55:15,639 --> 00:55:19,159
just fed off both those sides,
and like that's what really just made her

1003
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,039
like her bubble burst, right,
and that's how it killed Ravens. So

1004
00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:24,760
yeah, exactly, you see the
emotion on her face after she killed Raven

1005
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:29,639
realizes what she Yeah exactly, what
what can she do? Yeah? Her

1006
00:55:29,679 --> 00:55:31,119
friends are right there, they also
she just has to fly away. Yeah,

1007
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:36,800
is it true that Jean killed Those
people were going to help her.

1008
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:42,639
Those kids were kind of annoying on
the stairs, always on the side.

1009
00:55:43,159 --> 00:55:45,039
Yeah, there was a cute like
the veins, but I feel like there

1010
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:47,800
was a lack of weird looking mutants
at the school. Yeah, there should

1011
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:53,920
be more fish people like the spikes
his body like last Yeah, multiple men,

1012
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,639
just have like three kids that all
look the same. Yeah. Also

1013
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,679
just something hadn't been But uh,
when they like when they do the mission

1014
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,320
and then they come back and the
whole school is cheering, and Charlie was

1015
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,400
just like, all right, guys, it's like classes cancer for the rest

1016
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,320
of the day. It's like,
oh, man, like I'm learning to

1017
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,360
become a mutant. I feel like
I want to go to school. You're

1018
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,159
not always doing that though. A
lot of boring. Yeah, okay,

1019
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,280
I didn't know that. I've never
gone to a mutant school history and stuff

1020
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:22,840
like that. Okay, fair enough, logan my bad. Yeah, I

1021
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,760
just before I forget it because I
knew I had heard it before. Lots

1022
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,800
of people had a problem with the
F bombs. I didn't have prom the

1023
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,800
F bomb. I liked that I
kill you because to me, he's young,

1024
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,960
he's in love. That seemed like
an idea because some people like it

1025
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,880
seems so out of character. It
seems it's just like to me, it's

1026
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,840
just like young emotional. I get
maybe it's just a character drop and f

1027
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:44,000
bomb, but I thought it was
just funny. Yeah, I think I

1028
00:56:44,159 --> 00:56:46,000
liked it. It was fine.
The thing that stood out to me in

1029
00:56:46,119 --> 00:56:51,000
that particular sequences, I feel like
they recorded they filmed some of those scenes

1030
00:56:51,079 --> 00:56:52,559
with like when only one person was
on set. Yeah, and they like

1031
00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:55,320
had cuts like and I got that
from him, especially because he's alone in

1032
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,000
that shot. So I could just
picture him like showing up on set one

1033
00:56:59,039 --> 00:57:01,079
day and like fast s Bender's you
know, off recording Assassin's Creek. Can

1034
00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:04,320
you do this line today? He's
like, lissense Creek, fucking do it.

1035
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,199
Assassin's Crew was almost five years ago. I guess that's what probably start.

1036
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,639
We've been doing this for like almost
four years, and we recorded that.

1037
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,599
We didn't review of that twenty sixteen, though we did a review of

1038
00:57:15,679 --> 00:57:17,039
it. I know twenty he wasn't, but he wasn't filming that all this.

1039
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:22,159
That's what we're almost a joke.
I know he wasn't filming Assassin's Creed.

1040
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,119
I just want to forget about it, you know, like I want

1041
00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:28,559
to talk about the villains and these
ana. Yeah, let's do it.

1042
00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:31,480
Let's do it. So this was
just awful just from start finish. I

1043
00:57:31,519 --> 00:57:36,519
have nothing pausitive to say about it. I must say when they first got

1044
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:38,199
introduced at the party, it was
kind of freaky, just like seeing them

1045
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:43,639
through the world. Yeah, I
like that cut, That's exactly what I

1046
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,920
do. Yeah, so you got
the Dbari kicking around. You got Vok,

1047
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,320
who is a male in the comics, so they gender swapped her.

1048
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,639
So that's fine, she could still
be a man. There's definitely a few

1049
00:57:52,199 --> 00:57:53,840
lines in this movie that you know, kind of go along with that.

1050
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:59,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So
it shouldn't be called the ex Women Raven

1051
00:57:59,519 --> 00:58:06,000
that was so I'm all for equality, I'm all for whatever. Like that

1052
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,800
line was very bad, just like, oh, you know, the women

1053
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:13,199
keep saving the men around here.
It seemed forced, right, it was

1054
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,159
we should call the X women.
And it's just like there's already this debate

1055
00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:19,000
because there's rumors going around. This
is a side note, but there's rumors

1056
00:58:19,039 --> 00:58:22,320
going around that the MCU is not
gonna call the movie X men. They're

1057
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:27,639
gonna call X Factor, which people
I get XO, but I just never

1058
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,599
took it that way because like X
Men is like, like the word man

1059
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:37,079
is in human, the word men
is in woman. I've never just tooken

1060
00:58:37,159 --> 00:58:38,840
that as like this is men,
like like I just feel like it's just

1061
00:58:39,079 --> 00:58:43,079
people being like, oh, we
gotta change, and maybe MCU will,

1062
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:45,840
but I'm never gonna be a fan
that I don't get from a branding point

1063
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,719
of view too, where my mom's
gonna be like, what's X factor,

1064
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,800
Like if you see X Men with
spix factor like a talent like a talent

1065
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:57,519
show. Yeah. So it's just
so that line just remind me. I

1066
00:58:57,559 --> 00:58:59,599
did not like that line, not
for the fact that like, oh I'm

1067
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:00,559
all about a man, it can't
be X woman. It just was a

1068
00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:06,559
bad line. One day when we
have Jessica on the cast, miss cheez

1069
00:59:07,159 --> 00:59:09,960
free white dudes was the word I
was, miss, miss jove, miss

1070
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:14,000
jovial. I don't actually know what
word you're looking. You're looking for the

1071
00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:20,159
other word of white, right,
misogynists. That's not I'm all for that.

1072
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,280
It just that did feel really forced. That did feel really forced in

1073
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,519
the way of because you got to
think about that. Maybe it's happened in

1074
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:30,159
the other movies, but we just
had that one scene where it happens.

1075
00:59:30,159 --> 00:59:31,199
It would be different if it happened
in the middle of the movie. We

1076
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,760
saw women save them a bunch.
It was just a It was not the

1077
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,000
greatest and it's just because it is
these rumors go around the X factors.

1078
00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:40,639
I'm not a fan of that name. I'm not a fan. I don't

1079
00:59:40,679 --> 00:59:43,960
know what to call. But just
call X men because that's just the way

1080
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,800
it is. That's a fanboy thing. If you just agree with me,

1081
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:51,320
then that's what it's great. Yeah, it's just I don't know. I

1082
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,360
feel like it's just a little too
far. It's just I feel like people

1083
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,119
have read too much into the word
men there. But what do you think

1084
00:59:57,119 --> 01:00:00,239
of the villains? Not great?
I hated I said this to Dyl last

1085
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,559
night. So I'm a broken record
for the fans, but I think it

1086
01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:07,800
makes sense here. I've always said
was Civil War my second fair MC movie

1087
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:08,599
now because of the endgame, because
the endgame is just, you know,

1088
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:13,039
pretty good movie. It's just the
chef's kiss, you know. So I've

1089
01:00:13,159 --> 01:00:15,440
always said I said that our very
first review that I did with Liam Kyle

1090
01:00:15,519 --> 01:00:19,639
and Dillon that my biggest fear when
Civil War was happening. They set up

1091
01:00:19,679 --> 01:00:22,559
the subplot. There's a bunch of
Winter Soldiers and the whole movie is about

1092
01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:25,360
how Cap and his team have to
get there. And they get to this

1093
01:00:25,719 --> 01:00:29,880
facility and you see all these tanks. I'm like, oh man, we're

1094
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,440
gonna fight all these Winter Soldiers are
gonna be so boring. And then again

1095
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,760
there and Zeals kill them all and
it's like, oh, this is great.

1096
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,679
And then there's like the triple threat
with buck Yardmancap, and then it's

1097
01:00:37,719 --> 01:00:42,639
like orgasmic. This is literally there's
a bunch of aliens and know what happens,

1098
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,079
and a bunch of faceless no name
aliens. All we know is Chas

1099
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:49,840
Stains character who just walks around going
like you don't know things. They don't

1100
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,559
know things. Men have control this
for too long. The world is more

1101
01:00:52,599 --> 01:00:55,119
powerful than you just saying just generic
com book shit. All you have is

1102
01:00:55,159 --> 01:00:59,239
her who sits out the final fight, who's just staring at the train the

1103
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,039
whole time. You just have the
X Men versus a bunch of fucking people

1104
01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:07,199
from I AM Legend running around like
being crazy aliens. The rules don't apply.

1105
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:12,000
Because Dylan and I were talking about
this, they show one alien on

1106
01:01:12,079 --> 01:01:15,599
the train and this helicopter machine gun
takes it out and it dies, and

1107
01:01:15,679 --> 01:01:17,239
then all these other ones get shot. But I do remember at one point

1108
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,280
they are back on the cop on
the top and coppers are shooting them again,

1109
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:22,800
and those ones are fine, So
I don't think they established And maybe

1110
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,400
I'm wrong, but I just felt
like it's just like after you hit them

1111
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:30,599
with fifty bullets. They yeah,
but then you have like certain bullets,

1112
01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:35,119
only the special bullets from this gun, but not Fastbenders. That gun Fastbender,

1113
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:37,519
who had all the guns of World
War two, unload a clip on

1114
01:01:37,639 --> 01:01:40,280
Valk and it just was the rules
were lame and it was just lames.

1115
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:45,360
I mean, Vaka does have some
dark phoenix in true she's got some more

1116
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:50,400
power. And I think I'm saying
right because they they because Dabari I had

1117
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,599
to look up today, Vauk,
I don't know. I did. Bari's

1118
01:01:52,639 --> 01:01:57,280
the Race of Aliens. Okay,
yeah, they say that, I think

1119
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,800
in the movie. Yeah, maybe
it was tough. It was a mine

1120
01:02:00,039 --> 01:02:01,599
experience, so yeah, I just
hate it. The end was just them

1121
01:02:01,639 --> 01:02:06,239
versus a bunch of CGI people.
We don't care. I liked That's where

1122
01:02:06,239 --> 01:02:07,679
I actually liked lots of Magneto stuff. At one point he like that guy

1123
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,320
punched the metal and he like broke
his hand with the metal. Like that

1124
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:15,000
was cool stuff. But it was
just And there's one moment me and Dylan

1125
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:17,280
laughed big time where Magneto took out
a bunch of people. And I can't

1126
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,519
remember because I've been trying to look
at what mune it was. I don't

1127
01:02:20,519 --> 01:02:22,800
even think they said their name.
She's the ball once you can tell that

1128
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,880
she had the knife. And at
one point they take out some people and

1129
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:29,639
he like looks at her, and
she looks at him, and and then

1130
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,320
that Dabari just sticks his hand like
so okay, I gotta sat because it's

1131
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,920
her. She's standing right by an
entrance of the train. The train's being

1132
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,559
really quick, and they're staring at
each other. It's almost like they're insinuating

1133
01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:42,000
there a couple or something like they're
or they're good friends. She's standing there

1134
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,920
and they're kind of like smiling,
Yeah, we took out these people.

1135
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,519
Dabari's hand just comes up by the
head grass and pulls around and he goes

1136
01:02:49,039 --> 01:02:52,239
and she's dead. She's gone.
That's it. That's the character. She's

1137
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,480
gone, and it felt like a
parody movie. And that's what happened at

1138
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:59,039
the ending was just a complete mess. And it just was and that character

1139
01:02:59,079 --> 01:03:01,119
what a mess. She spends one
scene and like maybe you know this camp

1140
01:03:01,159 --> 01:03:06,960
where she's like, yeah, just
doing some weird like fucking what's enchantress and

1141
01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:09,519
doing some weird enchantress stuff and then
Charles holds her. Yeah, she's like

1142
01:03:09,719 --> 01:03:13,360
that whole sights and she's just standing
there and then she just gets him in

1143
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,559
the next X Men movie and your
family's just watching. You're just doing this

1144
01:03:15,719 --> 01:03:17,239
the whole time, and like you
know, it would suck. It was

1145
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,119
just not take your family too.
It was just yeah, it was just

1146
01:03:21,199 --> 01:03:22,599
a mess. And that's why I
said it was literally mind numbing when we

1147
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,840
got that, and just the transition
of the CGI look good, but just

1148
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:30,360
these like holding to each other with
Valkan stare downs and like feeding stuff going

1149
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:35,280
back and forth. It was just
it was very poor. It was just

1150
01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:38,239
uninspiring. It was lazy, and
I hated it. I would be inclined

1151
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:42,480
to agree hated it. And and
it sucks because, as as Kirkle mentioned

1152
01:03:42,519 --> 01:03:45,639
earlier, the intro for it is
fantastic, like it really sets this kind

1153
01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:50,079
of mysterious. It sets like mysterious
but also kind of horror vibes, and

1154
01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:52,039
it's it's really well done. And
then she like goes back into the house

1155
01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:55,679
and like crunches that guy's something like
it's pretty intense stuff. But then that's

1156
01:03:55,760 --> 01:04:00,800
kind of it. Like her character
unfortunately ninety percent or or her dialogue is

1157
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,559
just straight exposition, right, She's
just explaining what the dark Phoenix thing is,

1158
01:04:03,719 --> 01:04:06,719
why it, you know, is
where it is, why her planet

1159
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:13,000
got blew up. So yeah,
unfortunate dialogue there for her. And then

1160
01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:15,760
the other thing, Yeah, that's
a word for sure. Yeah. The

1161
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,320
other thing is just like the style
they went for with these aliens. So

1162
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:23,039
obviously they take the form of humans
and stuff, but then they also went

1163
01:04:23,079 --> 01:04:25,920
with like the kind of I guess
one take you can do with aliens where

1164
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,360
they're just like these emotionless beings,
right, and it's like, yeah,

1165
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,559
that can make sense, Like maybe
they don't experience emotion the same way we

1166
01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:34,119
do. But you know, you
look at like Captain Marvel, a lot

1167
01:04:34,159 --> 01:04:35,840
of people shit on that movie,
but you look like what they did with

1168
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,199
the scrolls, right, and after
that, it's like, okay, they

1169
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,039
made this like Alien Race, like
really really fun when it could have just

1170
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:44,280
been really generic. Yeah, and
after that movie, it's like a lot

1171
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:45,079
of people have problems with the movie. But I think a lot of people

1172
01:04:45,079 --> 01:04:47,280
are still in the camp, like
I want to see these guys again.

1173
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,320
I want to see them come back. I'd love to see more of their

1174
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:54,480
homeworld or more of their people.
You can't say the same for these aliens.

1175
01:04:54,559 --> 01:04:58,239
They're just nothing compared to that.
I don't know where you're going where

1176
01:04:58,239 --> 01:05:01,079
people are shot on Captain Marvel.
There's a lot of people that should in

1177
01:05:01,119 --> 01:05:03,880
that movie, or maybe her in
particular. Do you not see that?

1178
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,000
Do you not see that on like
Twitter and stuff? Yeah, it's always

1179
01:05:08,039 --> 01:05:10,880
trash. It's just her because she's
a she's a big time I don't know

1180
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,320
I would extend that to like the
movie then, I guess, But I

1181
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,440
feel like it's to do with her
political stuff, not her acting. It

1182
01:05:16,519 --> 01:05:20,079
has to do with like she's an
s j W warrior and like she doesn't

1183
01:05:20,079 --> 01:05:23,719
I don't really. Yeah, I
don't give these people really light to day.

1184
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,880
I don't go reading through their reply. Yeah, so I think more

1185
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,199
just I do see that movie,
I feel like for mc u stuff gets

1186
01:05:29,199 --> 01:05:33,440
a lot more fifty to fifty opinions
on. I think there's some some it

1187
01:05:33,639 --> 01:05:36,159
well actually kind of I think Briggs
was kind of trash in that movie,

1188
01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:41,079
but we still he pass, Yeah, a clean pass. The point is

1189
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,039
the point is that the scrolls are
interesting even if you only have like one

1190
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,800
or I guess really two character two
scrolls in that movie that kind of give

1191
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:54,480
they kind of exemplify like a lot
more about that race and make it seem

1192
01:05:54,559 --> 01:05:57,039
a lot more interesting. Those those
aliens. You want to see more of

1193
01:05:57,079 --> 01:05:59,400
them. You want to see the
other tribes of that race, you want

1194
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,519
to see what they're like. But
yeah, this movie, like there's only

1195
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,480
like Chastain's really the only character that
has I don't know, she doesn't really

1196
01:06:05,519 --> 01:06:09,360
get anything at all, Like she
gets more than anyone else, but she

1197
01:06:09,559 --> 01:06:12,559
just gets more speaking, she's just
the exposition machine and she's supposed to be

1198
01:06:12,599 --> 01:06:15,239
scary because she has like the power
in her. But then you have the

1199
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,599
one other guy that who knows what
his name is, and he's like kind

1200
01:06:17,639 --> 01:06:21,159
of the leader I guess, I
suppose, but that's pretty much it.

1201
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:26,039
I think they're like the co leads. I guess. Yeah, so really

1202
01:06:26,159 --> 01:06:30,599
unfortunately, there's just there's just nothing
to it. That's all there is to

1203
01:06:30,639 --> 01:06:32,639
say. I was trying to think
at all X Men villains, I think

1204
01:06:32,719 --> 01:06:38,159
easily my least favorite, even origins
Striker, who is not great. This

1205
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,480
is just it's just fodder. It's
just a bunch of cannon fought. It

1206
01:06:41,559 --> 01:06:45,559
was so bland and there's literally nothing
to it. And that's what you're saying

1207
01:06:45,679 --> 01:06:48,920
earlier. Obviously there's like some comparisons
here to Civil War, not you know,

1208
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,679
in quality, not even close,
but just in terms of concept.

1209
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:56,199
And yeah, in a movie like
that, you have you have Zemo,

1210
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,880
but I don't know, there's still
like enough presence of opposition just around and

1211
01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:01,639
and you have that with with Phoenix
in this movie. And then you kind

1212
01:07:01,639 --> 01:07:04,880
of have them X Men fight each
other for two minutes, which is not

1213
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:09,639
really necessary. But I don't know. They did they really need this this

1214
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:13,239
alien race. Maybe they needed something
I don't know, but certainly the path

1215
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,840
theory they went with it is just
as Travis said, very uninspired is the

1216
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:20,000
best way to very uninspired. Yeah, I really don't have much to say.

1217
01:07:20,119 --> 01:07:26,320
Yeah, I didn't give a vach
about that character. She was just

1218
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:30,960
so like everything that you just said, She's only there for exposition, right,

1219
01:07:30,039 --> 01:07:36,440
Like she did not my favorite character. Yeah, it was just position

1220
01:07:36,519 --> 01:07:39,400
aliens. I don't know. I
kind of feel bad for Jessica Chess.

1221
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,960
Thanks. She is such a good
actress, right, but I feel like,

1222
01:07:42,199 --> 01:07:44,800
fucking they're like, don't make a
motion this entire movie. I feel

1223
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,039
like directors like could have done this. Yeah, it's just like she was

1224
01:07:48,159 --> 01:07:51,840
playing face the entire time. She
showed no motion. Like it was just

1225
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,880
it was they really should have got
a no name to do it. Yeah,

1226
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,599
that's the thing, and then made
people people would have shot on them.

1227
01:07:59,679 --> 01:08:02,159
But like whatever, it doesn't really
like it doesn't come off. She's

1228
01:08:02,159 --> 01:08:05,239
an award winning actress. Yeah,
Like I know her from a better things,

1229
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,960
So luckily for me, it's like, okay, I know she's better

1230
01:08:09,079 --> 01:08:11,960
quality than this, but yeah,
it was. It was pretty unfortunate for

1231
01:08:12,119 --> 01:08:15,000
like that race in general, specifically
about like that end like train fight scene.

1232
01:08:15,239 --> 01:08:17,479
There was a lot of stuff that
happened in there that I did really

1233
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,880
like. Actually, like I liked
when night Crawler kind of had time to

1234
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,399
shine. He like grabbed a knife
and was kind of popping off a mass

1235
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,399
murder and when you go face off
against walk he's just like stabbing her constantly.

1236
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,479
Like I get it, we are
trying to kill her, but it

1237
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,760
just felt like he's gonna turn into
a serial killer. Yeah, it's full

1238
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:36,279
rage mode. I'm gonna defit in
his like transition to just becoming fucking a

1239
01:08:36,399 --> 01:08:40,239
full on psychopath. But I don't
know. I just like seeing like his

1240
01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:43,680
his banffing around and I don't know, I like that stuff like that.

1241
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,319
Yeah, and then I had fun
with it. I do think it's a

1242
01:08:45,319 --> 01:08:48,560
little strange that, Like I get
it, psychlops. You need him to

1243
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,960
like bust through the walls, but
like, shouldn't they got once again night

1244
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:57,600
Crawler like teleport? Yes, yeah, I mean yes, he can't like

1245
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,800
teleport through with something he can't see. Yeah. I think maybe the idea

1246
01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:02,800
I'm not trying to make sense this
terrible movie, but maybe the idea is

1247
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,840
Nightcrawlers. He can go outside quicker, He can move around a lot quicker

1248
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:12,680
than Scott, where Scott can easily
protect Xavier with his optic blast. Where

1249
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,279
if there's like a few carts down, nightcrawl can get there like that to

1250
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:19,039
help out an X Men, where
Scott has to hope he doesn't hit Magneto

1251
01:09:19,079 --> 01:09:21,800
accidentally. Yeah, yeah, I
guess so. It just it's weird because

1252
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:26,880
they it's actually, you know,
Kirkla was saying earlier, like the choreography

1253
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,359
between like the X Men was was
actually really good in a lot of the

1254
01:09:29,399 --> 01:09:31,560
fight scenes, and they established that, like just ten minutes earlier that like,

1255
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,319
oh yeah they're a good team,
like Nightcrawler teleports, yeah, uh,

1256
01:09:35,159 --> 01:09:38,279
Xavier around it works really well.
But then they just kind of forgot

1257
01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:41,199
about that that idea for the train, which I guess like they already did

1258
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:43,399
it, but I don't know,
I just didn't real remember saying yeah,

1259
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,840
maybe maybe they didn't. There's an
argument there that maybe they just didn't want

1260
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:47,439
to redo it. Then hey,
there's there's a lot of questions that happened

1261
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,960
in this movie. Oh yeah,
it's like the tiniest of nitpicks. So

1262
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:57,520
problems. Yeah, just going to
like Magneto in this like fight sequence,

1263
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,279
I feel like majority of everything that
was going on with him, I really

1264
01:10:00,319 --> 01:10:02,239
really liked, like like you already
mentioned, like when you pulled out all

1265
01:10:02,239 --> 01:10:05,199
the guns like that, that just
looked really cool, Like when he was

1266
01:10:05,279 --> 01:10:09,039
fighting the co lead. I don't
I don't know what the hell his name

1267
01:10:09,119 --> 01:10:10,840
was. I think he was like
an FBI guy. I think that's what

1268
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,439
like the body that he took over
of. Yeah, but I couldn't tell

1269
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:18,920
you his name to save my life. His name was Jones. But uh

1270
01:10:19,079 --> 01:10:23,119
yeah, so Jones when he like
punches him and he like has that piece

1271
01:10:23,159 --> 01:10:25,800
of metal and it kind of like
bends his wrists. And then even when

1272
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,159
he like first comes into the room
and Magneto just like forces him into the

1273
01:10:29,199 --> 01:10:30,239
corner with all that metal, like
it was just like, oh man,

1274
01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:34,399
at one point when a bunch of
them are on the same like trolley and

1275
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,840
he just like I was gonna mention
that, Yeah, it looks it looks

1276
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:42,319
so sick, oh man. I
I just I'm a big fan of like

1277
01:10:42,399 --> 01:10:45,560
that superhero like Magneia with his powers, because it's just like the creative ways

1278
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,680
that they use metal, going back
to first class, like when he uses

1279
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:53,680
the coin to just like go through
show is it shaw ye Okay. For

1280
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,880
some reason, I thought it was
like shock or something shot But yes,

1281
01:10:58,399 --> 01:11:00,880
I'm here, guys, just just
the way they they show, like how

1282
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:05,439
he manipulates his powers, it's just
it's so like artistic almost in a way

1283
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:10,239
right, and uh yeah, just
seeing him like just bend it like a

1284
01:11:10,319 --> 01:11:13,359
frickin' pop can, Like it just
looks so sick, just seeing his power.

1285
01:11:13,399 --> 01:11:15,479
And then Fastbender just sells it so
well, like I'm kind of jumping,

1286
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,239
but like when he's with Gene and
like the Copter and like he's just

1287
01:11:19,319 --> 01:11:23,720
like trying to like keep that copter. I don't know why I started saying

1288
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:28,359
copter cop but he's got the Chopper
and he's just like trying to keep it

1289
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,119
up. Like just the way that
he's selling it, like with his body,

1290
01:11:30,199 --> 01:11:33,640
like he just he's such a good
actor and the way that he sells

1291
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:38,199
like Magneto's powers. Obviously it's cgi
so it's not actually happening, but like

1292
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,640
I believe that he's like doing it
right and he just executes that. So

1293
01:11:42,279 --> 01:11:45,960
and yeah, so like majority of
the fight stuff that happened on the train

1294
01:11:45,119 --> 01:11:50,199
with uh what do they call it
again? I was called Dabari's. Yeah,

1295
01:11:50,279 --> 01:11:54,439
majority of like the fight scenes I'd
say with the X Men, like

1296
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,319
not really with the guys in the
Choppers that are just like, oh yeah,

1297
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:00,399
X Factor, Yeah, we'll go
with that. It's say, but

1298
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,199
like when they're like mowing them down
on the roof. I do agree with

1299
01:12:03,239 --> 01:12:06,840
Travis, like it is almost just
like I am Legend like villains where it's

1300
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:11,039
just like there's so many Like I
don't know what it is a great movie.

1301
01:12:11,079 --> 01:12:13,439
We're not sitting on it is a
great I'm not. I just felt

1302
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,880
like they just took like they I
don't know, I don't know if what,

1303
01:12:16,159 --> 01:12:17,840
No, it's a Warren Brothers movie, but I just feel like it's

1304
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,359
the same studio, like, oh, we still have some animations from my

1305
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:24,800
Legend left outs. Yeah, like
like they're just swarming the train like there's

1306
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:30,640
really nothing going on World War Z
for another compared exactly run An exactly mindless

1307
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,479
that they almost seem like and those
characters are lame. They're always lame,

1308
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:38,239
you know, like they apparently don't
have personality. They are. Yeah,

1309
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:45,079
and then Jones Jones, Jones in
for a good character here just on the

1310
01:12:45,119 --> 01:12:49,439
same top of that scene like when
uh Jane finally geez, I'm kind of

1311
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:53,439
drawing a blank. But when she
like bursts out of like her chains or

1312
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,560
whatever, it's like she it's like
a dream sequence sort of right. I

1313
01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:00,000
think she's talking to the very end
when she turns good, like when she's

1314
01:13:00,039 --> 01:13:03,359
in the train. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's kind of a dream

1315
01:13:03,399 --> 01:13:08,600
sequence, right yeah, oh no, no, the talking right walk shows

1316
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:14,279
up. Yeah, So I really
like the transition into that from when she

1317
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:15,760
just like wakes up and it just
like bursts off the like. I don't

1318
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,279
know, it's pretty cheesy, but
for me, it's just it's aesthetically pleasing

1319
01:13:19,359 --> 01:13:23,319
for me. So I did like
that stuff. And then uh, I

1320
01:13:23,359 --> 01:13:27,039
don't know, man, I am
jumping all over the place. But when

1321
01:13:27,079 --> 01:13:30,880
she when she finally like gets rid
of Voch, it just takes her off

1322
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,199
into space. I don't know.
For me, I wasn't I don't know.

1323
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,640
I wasn't that satisfied with how they
ended that character. Obviously, it's

1324
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:41,239
not like a super villain that I
wanted to see an epic send off for

1325
01:13:41,319 --> 01:13:45,039
that character. But guess what guys
MCU first announcement were bringing over Falk.

1326
01:13:45,399 --> 01:13:49,159
Yeah, but uh, like that
I wasn't a big fan of. But

1327
01:13:49,279 --> 01:13:54,880
like when she does turn good and
she is just like decimating the the shitty

1328
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:59,840
scrawls I keep forgetting their names.
Just thank you everyone, but I don't

1329
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,319
know, to make sure we're pro
announcing vak right, I find it out,

1330
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,560
yeah, folk because they don't actually
call her that. They call her

1331
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:10,000
that, but it's subtitles. We
never hear someone say the word, right.

1332
01:14:10,359 --> 01:14:14,239
Yeah, But like it's kind of
like slow mo and she's just like

1333
01:14:14,399 --> 01:14:16,439
decimating these people. I thought that
was a pretty cool just sequence, Like

1334
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,600
it's pretty quick, it's doesn't last
long. But I don't know. I

1335
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:25,399
just from from the start of like
the train sequence action with the foot soldier,

1336
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,279
that was a big fan of.
But once the X Men got involved

1337
01:14:27,359 --> 01:14:30,640
and you got to kind of see
them shine with their powers, I started

1338
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,279
liking it more. Yeah, I
guess we'll touch on a couple of other

1339
01:14:33,319 --> 01:14:38,720
action scenes, like the initial one
where the X Men go up into space.

1340
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,800
Yeah, I wanted to. I
forgot about that scene because I wanted

1341
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,159
to talk about it too. I
like it. It's fun. It's a

1342
01:14:43,239 --> 01:14:45,239
fun way that they use everyone's powers
in like a unique way, and it

1343
01:14:45,279 --> 01:14:48,680
really shows that they're a team.
And I thought it worked really well.

1344
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:54,960
And it was like the classic superhero
movie that has a action set piece in

1345
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,680
the first like fifteen minutes, like
they always seem to have them, and

1346
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,960
it was it was an effective one. It was fun. It was good.

1347
01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:02,439
Did like it was a good reminder
because I haven't watched Apocalypse. Actually,

1348
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,760
I don't think i've seen it since
theater, so it's been a while

1349
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:06,680
for me. So it's fun to
re establish, like, okay, which

1350
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:11,359
characters are we playing with again and
and show like all their powers and working

1351
01:15:11,359 --> 01:15:14,479
together. It was really fun.
Her name is pronounced buk by the way,

1352
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,439
Yeah, I don't give a sorry. Sorry, I didn't know the

1353
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,880
classic X Men character name. I
knew the name, but it's been Encounterfear

1354
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,840
in a comic before. No,
I don't think so, but it's one

1355
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,000
of it's one of those that,
like I was happy when the movie came

1356
01:15:28,079 --> 01:15:30,600
out because some people thought because I
always called them Magneto and some people thought

1357
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,600
it was Magneto and I was always
like, no, it's not. And

1358
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,000
then it's like, yeah, fuck
yeah, it's like the same people in

1359
01:15:36,119 --> 01:15:42,760
like, uh aside that Ray rash
all Gool, no one calls him raise

1360
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:46,600
a ras all Ghoul and Batman.
I've always liked that. Yeah it's Rash.

1361
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,760
It's like Ray know it's race and
I'm like, I don't like that.

1362
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:53,000
And when we said like seven different
names there, which one is it

1363
01:15:53,039 --> 01:15:56,800
actually so, it's supposedly most comic
fans say it's rage, but then no

1364
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,039
one came out. I was like, now I'm calling ras race. Sounds

1365
01:15:59,039 --> 01:16:05,239
stupid that I like the Nolan method. Yeah, yeah, just on like

1366
01:16:05,319 --> 01:16:10,119
the space scene, I I that
was probably like my favorite like scene or

1367
01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:15,039
like, yeah, the scene of
the entire movie probably it's uh, I

1368
01:16:15,079 --> 01:16:16,000
don't know. You just get to
see them like kind of in action.

1369
01:16:16,199 --> 01:16:18,640
They're pretty structured. They seem like
they kind of know what they're doing,

1370
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,920
Like it seems like Ravens kind of
calling the shots. And then uh,

1371
01:16:23,239 --> 01:16:26,640
just the dynamics and like the synergies
that they use each other's powers. I

1372
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,720
really liked it when they go back
to the ship and then they're gonna go

1373
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:34,680
sorry to let me draw the picture
here, when they go to the the

1374
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:38,600
NASA Space Shuttle and then they jump
back to like the X Wing. Is

1375
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,680
that what it's called the X Wing? That's a Star Wars thing, isn't

1376
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,279
it X Wing? Yeah, that's
not the X ship. What's it called

1377
01:16:45,319 --> 01:16:47,479
their ship yet? X jet?
Okay, I felt like I was close.

1378
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,760
I had the first part right.
But anyways, they jump back and

1379
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:57,479
then they're sending uh, Quicksilver and
Nightcrawler back to get the captain, and

1380
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,479
then Quicksilver just super fast just like
him up with like a like a like

1381
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:04,479
almost like a mysterial orbs so like
surviving space. It's just like hilarious that

1382
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,159
he did with the duc dates the
Blackbird, Yeah, the Blackbird, Blackbird,

1383
01:17:08,199 --> 01:17:10,840
Okay, And I don't know,
just like the way that they did

1384
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,279
that stuff, I really appreciated.
Me. I'm a really big fan of

1385
01:17:13,359 --> 01:17:16,239
this type of Quicksilver. It's funny
that we haven't even mentioned in this entire

1386
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,640
next topic. Yeah, yeah,
but uh, I guess we can transition

1387
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,520
then. Yeah, I got enough
to day in the space scene. I

1388
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,880
liked it enough, and only I
liked the z I felt there's some moments

1389
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,720
where I didn't understand some people without
helmets were just kind of willing to Well,

1390
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:35,439
when Jean goes and she's like you
because she goes to keep the ship

1391
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,399
like intact, right, But when
they first go there, it's just open

1392
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,279
space and she's just chilling. I'm
like, well, even she has like

1393
01:17:42,319 --> 01:17:44,960
a bubble around her, doesn't but
even I don't they show it, but

1394
01:17:45,079 --> 01:17:46,600
like she has been known to bubble
things if you leave it for interpretation,

1395
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,279
I'll buy it in that's but even
night Girl the first time he goes over

1396
01:17:49,359 --> 01:17:54,880
doesn't have anything, and he goes
back and Quicksilver doesn't either. So and

1397
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,159
then when I probably goes back,
he like, I guess there is still

1398
01:17:57,199 --> 01:17:59,600
oxygen going on in that ship.
Yeah, I guess that's what I did

1399
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:00,439
that to me out of it.
To be honest, maybe when I watched

1400
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,319
the second time, I might enjoy
it, but that was like, I

1401
01:18:02,359 --> 01:18:06,159
don't understand the laws here, and
then I was just getting salty because I

1402
01:18:06,239 --> 01:18:09,560
knew it's like, Oh, we're
just ret conning Apocalypse, aren't we,

1403
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,159
And like, oh, yeah,
that's what we're doing. Five minutes in

1404
01:18:11,199 --> 01:18:14,520
your movie. You retcon your first
movie. So I don't also talk about

1405
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,560
that because that is to go into
Quicksilver, because that just shows again sometimes

1406
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,279
they've given them some great movies,
but man, sometimes they just don't give

1407
01:18:20,319 --> 01:18:24,640
a fucking And that's why I'm so
excited for fighting you get the X Men.

1408
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:28,600
I am disappointed in some aspects that
we might not get unique films.

1409
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:30,960
I got Logan or a Deadpool,
but hopefully we still do. Yeah,

1410
01:18:31,079 --> 01:18:35,000
Quicksilver, so this is a character
he set ups and stays a future pass.

1411
01:18:35,399 --> 01:18:40,039
He meets Magneto and he makes jokes
about oh my dad. His whole

1412
01:18:40,119 --> 01:18:43,960
motivation for Apocalypse is he's trying to
find his dad and he wants to talk

1413
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,600
to him and you can go back. I've always hated that in Apocalypse,

1414
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,640
where at the end of we we
can talk to him. Nah, I'll

1415
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:53,319
get to it. Two things.
One again, who's ever doing this is

1416
01:18:53,399 --> 01:18:56,479
just lazy writing, because you know
what, you should just fucking killed Quicksilver

1417
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:00,319
too in that scene, because they
clearly don't know how to handle a character

1418
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:02,439
is powerful, so they just wrote
him out in the laziest way ever.

1419
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,119
They just see him on a gurney
and he's gone. Whole movie. He's

1420
01:19:05,119 --> 01:19:09,439
in this for about five minutes.
That's it, which is very frustrating because

1421
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:13,000
he's been a highlight of the past
two movies. He's a great actor that

1422
01:19:13,159 --> 01:19:15,680
is popular. And Two, the
biggest thing is Magneto, who's my favorite

1423
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,279
villain of all time, and to
me, that's a fun relationship and you

1424
01:19:18,359 --> 01:19:21,119
can't do that. No matter what's
gonna happen with the X Men or the

1425
01:19:21,319 --> 01:19:27,119
X Factor in the MCU, you
can't do the Quicksilver, Magneto father dad

1426
01:19:27,159 --> 01:19:30,840
thin because guess what Quicksilver is fucking
den So Kobia somewhere. So it's like

1427
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,880
you had a unique relationship where you
can do and selling. It would have

1428
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:36,359
been so cool seeing Magneto with a
other I mute child. They've been setting

1429
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:40,000
this up and setting this up,
and now we've never gone to see that,

1430
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,880
you know what, just like,
fuck you. That's just like the

1431
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,199
biggest Like I wish they never even
teas that. Then it was just he

1432
01:19:45,319 --> 01:19:49,039
was just Quicksilver because it's just why
even introduce that at all? And I

1433
01:19:49,119 --> 01:19:53,199
know it's a different director, but
it's not a different writerer because Simon Kmberg

1434
01:19:53,199 --> 01:19:56,199
has been producing these movies. So
just to me shows I'm not excited for

1435
01:19:56,319 --> 01:19:58,960
him as a director going forward,
because to me, it shows that I

1436
01:19:59,159 --> 01:20:01,000
get it. That wasn't your movie
you directed, but still you got a

1437
01:20:01,159 --> 01:20:03,359
tone to some of that stuff.
You can't just throw it out, and

1438
01:20:03,399 --> 01:20:05,720
if you do, he has a
shit movie. So yeah, I was

1439
01:20:06,199 --> 01:20:10,840
beyond especially if like, if you're
making this movie and you're trying, you

1440
01:20:11,079 --> 01:20:13,159
know, you have all your characters
lying down piece of paper, What am

1441
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:15,760
I gonna do with all of them? And your answer with Quicksilver as you're

1442
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,560
saying a popular character who has like
the most memorable scene in Apocalypse, probably

1443
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,600
the most memorable scene in the future
past as well, and uh, yeah,

1444
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:25,560
we're just gonna not do anything with
him, and like like you're saying,

1445
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,680
like he's a powerful character, how
do you deal with that? Well,

1446
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,840
they already dealt with that in this
movie. Phoenix was able, you

1447
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,840
know, she's able to slow down
time or like know what he's doing.

1448
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,279
Then she dealt with and knocked him
out. You can do that throughout the

1449
01:20:35,279 --> 01:20:39,840
movie. You can have Vuk doing
that because she has those powers as well.

1450
01:20:40,279 --> 01:20:43,159
Or you know, you can just
make Magne to bring up a piece

1451
01:20:43,199 --> 01:20:45,319
of metal, knocks him out and
there he's gone for five minutes. Now

1452
01:20:45,359 --> 01:20:48,239
you don't have this super powerful character. But instead like, yeah, yes,

1453
01:20:48,319 --> 01:20:50,520
we didn't get one of those like
slow most scenes of him walking like

1454
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,600
going around. Yeah, maybe they
did that twice. They don't need to

1455
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:58,000
do it again, but I would
have loved they kind of have one in

1456
01:20:58,079 --> 01:21:00,359
like the start of the movie with
like the space sne because he's like he's

1457
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:05,199
grabbing all the astronauts I guess round
them up, bringing them over to Nightcrawler,

1458
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:08,920
So they kind of did it,
but I did more. Yeah,

1459
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,239
when I was watching that scene in
the moment, I didn't think that that

1460
01:21:11,319 --> 01:21:12,920
was the only time we were going
to see that, And I don't think

1461
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,800
that was the only time we were
going to see Quicksilver. One hundred percent

1462
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,680
agree with you because, like I
think why, Like, obviously I'm pretty

1463
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:23,479
biased because those two scenes from Day's
Future Past an Apocalypse, like they're probably

1464
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,000
one of my favorites just because I
don't know, maybe I'm just big fanboying

1465
01:21:26,079 --> 01:21:29,560
for that character. Well, there's
such well done scenes and time in a

1466
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,520
bottle. What is the other song
that they use, sweet Dreams? Yeah,

1467
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:35,000
so so so good, right,
and then like when they're on the

1468
01:21:35,079 --> 01:21:38,399
ship, obviously they don't have music
going on with it, but like I

1469
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,640
just love like the way that they
like they use him, Like you just

1470
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,560
see him like like get everyone out, like he unbuckles them, and then

1471
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:48,880
like he grabs a Nightcrawler. He
grabs Nightcrawler and then makes them like touch

1472
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,760
it, toutch them. Also,
it's just super easy and it's just super

1473
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,520
like artsy in a way, And
I just I don't know, I was

1474
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,680
hoped, like I agree with you. Maybe they would have just been like

1475
01:21:59,119 --> 01:22:03,359
diluting like the like the fun factor
of those SlowMo scenes if they just kept

1476
01:22:03,399 --> 01:22:05,439
repeating it, and then they would
have done it the third time. But

1477
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,800
I would have eaten it up,
man, And I'm sure other like if

1478
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,239
i'm I'm sure I'm not the only
one, like you said, that's there's

1479
01:22:11,239 --> 01:22:14,760
two to three people in this room. Like if that were the case,

1480
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,600
Okay, there'd be a big possibility
that this movie would have, you know,

1481
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:21,600
some sort of connection with like the
best scenes category in Golden Geeks in

1482
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,720
twenty nineteen. It's not gonna be
the case now. I don't know,

1483
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:26,680
but they could have. If they
could have, I think, I know,

1484
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,239
it probably would have been like my
favorite scene this entire movie. And

1485
01:22:30,359 --> 01:22:32,119
like I know that's not saying much, but like it probably would have jumped

1486
01:22:32,119 --> 01:22:34,680
at a point in my rage.
I'll give you this to me if I

1487
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,079
knew and I had the idea,
you can go in the X Men ranking,

1488
01:22:38,119 --> 01:22:40,920
because I just had a feeling like
we're not seeing Quicksilver in any of

1489
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,000
these trailers really so, and I
thought they were gonna kill him with mystique,

1490
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,359
And I guess I wish they did
that, now I would have still

1491
01:22:45,399 --> 01:22:49,680
been bummed and give them the same
uh cons. But this to me against

1492
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:53,600
even more cons of just like you
kept him alive just to hang out of

1493
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,439
the school and we never see him
again. He's never asking what's going on,

1494
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,199
and then he just has like some
really lame joke at like the very

1495
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,039
lame yeah and then and so that's
why if I knew that, I would

1496
01:23:03,079 --> 01:23:05,880
have taken a scene like that.
But what I really want is more just

1497
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:11,960
Quicksilver. So if he was just
like had lines and was talking yeah and

1498
01:23:12,079 --> 01:23:14,199
like Dylan brought up and like,
oh yeah, mag Neo take him out.

1499
01:23:14,199 --> 01:23:16,720
They're trying to do this whole like, oh, ideologies versus each other,

1500
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,600
like I said, a civil war
thing friends against friend. You could

1501
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:24,199
have something that MC doesn't have.
You could have a father and a son

1502
01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:28,520
who have different ideologies squaring off and
think about how emotional you couldn't no on

1503
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,800
this movie, they wouldn't handle it
well. But think about the concept of

1504
01:23:31,239 --> 01:23:34,159
Quicksilver believes no, we can save
Gene, Magneo goes, no, we

1505
01:23:34,239 --> 01:23:36,960
can kill her, and they know
that their father and son. Just the

1506
01:23:38,079 --> 01:23:42,000
dynamic there of maybe that would have
Magneto not be so violent or something like

1507
01:23:42,079 --> 01:23:44,720
that. But no, they just
don't bring into the battle scene at all.

1508
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:46,079
Like it's just he could have even
been perfect with the train scene,

1509
01:23:46,119 --> 01:23:49,119
right because he could just run at
the same all. Yeah, exactly,

1510
01:23:49,239 --> 01:23:54,560
he could have been whipping those It's
just it's just I don't get it,

1511
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,680
and it's it's like the last fight. It's just like and maybe that's my

1512
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,199
overall for this movie just uninspiring.
I'm just yeah, let's just take him

1513
01:24:00,199 --> 01:24:04,640
out and just like it's why why, it's just other than they don't deserve

1514
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:10,399
these characters. Other than losing like
Fastbender in as Magneto in a character I

1515
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:13,359
think like the biggest loss for me
for like not having this top of X

1516
01:24:13,399 --> 01:24:15,920
Men is that quick Silver character.
Like I just feel like it was such

1517
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,239
good casting for him. He was
so late, just unique for that character

1518
01:24:18,319 --> 01:24:23,000
and just really like really humorous.
Yeah, especially that you said, yeah,

1519
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,199
he's dead in the MCU, so
we're not gonna see you care And

1520
01:24:25,319 --> 01:24:30,600
we had him on screen for like
what fifteen Maybe maybe mysterials alternate inventions are

1521
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:34,319
gonna help us out. Oh I
found this fast fast spender bringing I forget

1522
01:24:34,359 --> 01:24:38,479
the actor's name for quick Fillan Peters, Oh do it like bringing just like

1523
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,680
the best of best and even fine
if they brought them in and they had

1524
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,800
no memory of those movies, they
just start them off off just like fresh

1525
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:45,960
and just like, oh yeah,
you're the exact same, right care.

1526
01:24:46,039 --> 01:24:49,119
And the thing is you could play
out the father storyline is guess what they

1527
01:24:49,199 --> 01:24:54,079
did it for fucking three movies since
twenty fourteen and didn't even didn't even do

1528
01:24:54,159 --> 01:24:58,079
it. Just makes no sense.
It's frustrating. Yeah, there's a lot

1529
01:24:58,079 --> 01:25:00,760
of bad things happening to me,
but that was probably like, going going

1530
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:02,600
into this, I was like,
well, at least I'm gonna figure out

1531
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,439
what they do with Quicksilver, and
oh, I mean I didn't really dissect

1532
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,760
the trailers like you did, so
I wasn't like, well, Quicksilver's not

1533
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,119
really gonna be it would at least
be resolved, I thought. And this

1534
01:25:11,239 --> 01:25:13,439
is the way it could have solved
them and touch it. This is this

1535
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,760
is the way it could have solved
it for me is let's say they do

1536
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,920
this whole bullshit thing of take Quicksilver
out Magnetos clearly again at the end of

1537
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:23,319
Good Guy, just for him to
maybe go to the X mansion and one

1538
01:25:23,399 --> 01:25:26,119
I wanted to see the reveal in
the movies of hey, I'm your son.

1539
01:25:26,399 --> 01:25:29,319
But let's say, okay, between
Apocalypse and now he's told them they

1540
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:30,920
know each other or father and son, just for him to even go the

1541
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,800
mansion just to be checking it on
because he was hurt, just like them

1542
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:39,399
have some dialogue blah blah blah,
just anything to acknowledge their relationship. But

1543
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,760
no, it's just like all I
wanted was one scene, one two three

1544
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,880
minute scene of just you know,
oh yeah Jean, really, like you

1545
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:49,239
could imagine if Beast goes there and
like he killed Raven, he really hurt,

1546
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:53,399
uh Peter, you know, like
it just adding upon it, and

1547
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,760
then he goes to the mansion to
check on him. Like there's just easy.

1548
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,439
It's easy easy, that's the problem. It's easy stuff. And the

1549
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:01,840
fact that I missed that is mind
boggle. Or if they did kill off

1550
01:26:02,359 --> 01:26:05,680
Quicksilver and like he did know was
his son, we've already mentioned like fast

1551
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:10,199
bet it's probably the best at like
selling that he lost somebody lost, right,

1552
01:26:10,279 --> 01:26:13,239
Like there's we could go on and
off about like the positivisty they could

1553
01:26:13,239 --> 01:26:15,560
have done with it, and it's
just I can't believe they didn't even try

1554
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:16,960
at it, right, They're just
like just erase it. And I still

1555
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,880
want to like the son switch of
not killing but if it was, hey,

1556
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,680
he killed Raven, oh and she
killed your son as well, then

1557
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,079
it's like I can even buy it
a little bit more. But no,

1558
01:26:26,319 --> 01:26:28,880
it's just no, I don't know. But that's why to me, this

1559
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:30,000
still felt like they were trying to
set up for more movies, because like,

1560
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,920
oh, we don't want to kill
him off because you know, I

1561
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,760
know what, maybe he was just
not available for filming. I don't know,

1562
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:39,720
but this movie was over multiple times
and there's no no one can tell

1563
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,880
me at all. You couldn't have
found a fucking day to get fast better

1564
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,039
in him together for a scene.
That's complete bullshit, so especially how many

1565
01:26:46,119 --> 01:26:49,600
times they've pushed it back, So
I don't believe you at all. So

1566
01:26:50,119 --> 01:26:54,680
just that's triggered me into high heaven
totally. No, I totally agree.

1567
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,039
I remember walking out and I'm just
like, I can't believe they didn't even

1568
01:26:57,239 --> 01:26:59,319
I didn't like, they just didn't
even try to do anything with it.

1569
01:26:59,399 --> 01:27:01,880
There's like it's easier just to ignore
it. Yeah, there's so many other

1570
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,880
characters they could have just got rid
of that didn't really do anything, Like

1571
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,640
Storm didn't really do anything in this
movie. No, I still know she

1572
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:11,960
has some cool effects. She z
apped some guys. I liked her look

1573
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,399
and I liked her voice. But
other than that, I like to progress.

1574
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:15,920
Like when she goes to help Fastbender, he like looks up and like

1575
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:20,760
sees her through the train like that
was kind of coold Storm. Yeah,

1576
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,600
and they acknowledge each other. But
I mean I would have round out of

1577
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:29,239
Quicksilver right unknown, especially like like
we've already we've been going on and off

1578
01:27:29,239 --> 01:27:30,239
of like what they could have done
with it. But just man, like

1579
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,399
you haven't even that train scene like
just running like with it right, Oh,

1580
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:38,279
so many you can have him with
his dad doing combo moves together,

1581
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:42,319
Like it's just it's ridiculous that movie
would have been so much. Or even

1582
01:27:42,359 --> 01:27:45,000
if you just go full on with
the Civil War and then you have this

1583
01:27:45,159 --> 01:27:46,920
dynamic where like Silver's part of the
X Men but like his father, oh

1584
01:27:47,199 --> 01:27:51,920
yeah, and it's just like even
if the movie storyline still sucked, it's

1585
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:56,079
like, just make the cool moment. Imagine, yeah, imagine Fastbender,

1586
01:27:56,359 --> 01:28:00,479
like you know how uh oh my
god, Quick Silver got bumped by that

1587
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,119
shrapnel. He was climbing the shrapnel
to get to her, and she just

1588
01:28:02,159 --> 01:28:06,960
like moved it. Imagine like Fastbenders
making like that staircase catches them as impossible

1589
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,880
possibility as we come with, and
they just didn't even do one. See.

1590
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:15,000
And that's why I love the MCU
because when I just think about end

1591
01:28:15,039 --> 01:28:16,479
game thing about man, they do
all that stuff and you're like, oh,

1592
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:19,119
I wish they do this, they
just do it and it's like stuck

1593
01:28:19,159 --> 01:28:21,279
in the early thing. No,
we're not gonna do that. Let's just

1594
01:28:21,399 --> 01:28:26,279
do this boring stuff. And it's
just like why, Like this is the

1595
01:28:26,399 --> 01:28:30,079
time. It's like the implications too
right because like we never see him again.

1596
01:28:30,319 --> 01:28:33,279
No, that this is like your
last chance. Like if you're the

1597
01:28:33,319 --> 01:28:36,239
director for this, Like I'm directing
my first movie, give me Quicksilver,

1598
01:28:36,319 --> 01:28:40,920
I'll do something fun with it.
So I'll have them run for seven minutes

1599
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,319
straight. I don't give his ship, but that I would totally do that,

1600
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,079
or even just make the end credits
seeing him, yeah, run through

1601
01:28:46,119 --> 01:28:49,399
the crad but that but that's around. That to me just gives me not

1602
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:53,960
fate for his future movies because to
me, he just looked at that characters

1603
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,399
just like I got nothing. I
don't know, and just like what like

1604
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,640
And then I said, if it's
a filming thing, then fine, but

1605
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:01,960
there's ways you could find some cool
things for him doing. If you still

1606
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,520
want to take him out, he
could come at the end and help out.

1607
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:08,680
It's just it's just ridiculous. And
that's why I'm very excited for even

1608
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,760
though Quicksilver is now dead, which
sucks in the MCU and I was a

1609
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,439
big fan of that quick Silver,
but still I'm just excited for Fi.

1610
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:18,479
You get the rest of these people, you know, because all right,

1611
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,560
my notes, but I think I
am are we h, we gotta talk

1612
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:26,520
about mystique No, yeah, kill. All I have to say is,

1613
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,720
like I said, my nonsports,
I thought she was doing a good job.

1614
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:31,279
I like the lines and the storyline
they gave her that they killed off

1615
01:29:31,319 --> 01:29:34,600
really quick. I feel like putting
her in uh Jeane Gray is really fun.

1616
01:29:35,319 --> 01:29:40,760
Yeah, I'll disagree because I hate
that they try to like inforce this

1617
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:44,399
like really mentor mentee relationship, but
we've not seen it. I feel at

1618
01:29:44,399 --> 01:29:45,840
all. Well, I feel like
Mysti's kind of been that for like most

1619
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,920
of the X Men, right,
Like she's been like Charles is like the

1620
01:29:49,039 --> 01:29:53,079
head guy, and then she's just
kind of like the realist that kind of

1621
01:29:53,119 --> 01:29:57,399
filters out some of the things and
like because like was like the guy behind

1622
01:29:57,399 --> 01:29:59,279
them. But this is her kids
on the front line. But this is

1623
01:29:59,319 --> 01:30:01,720
her first movie in the team though, because that was the first class.

1624
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,520
Days. I'm not colling first class
because all those fuckers are dead. Okay,

1625
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:08,039
Day's future past. She's a criminal, Apocalypse, She's a criminal,

1626
01:30:08,079 --> 01:30:10,399
and then the end she's like I
am an X Man. So this is

1627
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,359
the first time she's like being nice
and with them. And that's why I

1628
01:30:13,399 --> 01:30:15,479
still feel we needed more time with
all these characters for me to because I

1629
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:19,399
don't feel that emotional when she dies
other than I know this character, because

1630
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:21,680
like Geene, they try and play
it up like it's like a big sister

1631
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:25,039
tour, but it's like I've not
seen that. I've just seen a mystique

1632
01:30:25,079 --> 01:30:28,359
look out to the plane like okay, you're right, Okay, I just

1633
01:30:28,399 --> 01:30:30,439
want to make sure, and then
walks away there Okay, I mean you're

1634
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:33,399
not wrong. For me. It
worked though, like I bought their relationship

1635
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,920
even if there wasn't Like I don't
know, I wasn't super fresh on what

1636
01:30:38,039 --> 01:30:41,039
exactly happened in Apocalypse, so for
all I knew they could have been friends

1637
01:30:41,079 --> 01:30:43,039
there in your Same Boat. I
don't think i've seen it since in the

1638
01:30:43,039 --> 01:30:45,399
theaters and then we reviewed it.
Maybe I'm I'm sure at some point fired

1639
01:30:45,399 --> 01:30:48,479
it up and watched like ten minutes, was like, I'm gonna go read

1640
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:53,319
a book. I'll go YouTube the
quick Siller scene. But I will say

1641
01:30:53,319 --> 01:30:55,439
the reason I thought he'll definitely do
that when I get home tonight. I

1642
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,880
think her performance was good because I
think I have somebody if you didn't tune

1643
01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:01,840
the I thought she was great in
First Class, but then Day's beach Pass

1644
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:04,760
pock Ups kind of phoned in.
I think she was good in this movie.

1645
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:08,439
I think it's just because she knew
that she didn't have that much screen

1646
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:10,920
time this movie. She's in it
for about fifteen twenty minutes. I like

1647
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,920
that she's mostly in raven form in
this movie and not Jennifer Lawrence warm.

1648
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:15,920
Yeah, Lawrence beautiful. I'm not
saying anything against her, it's just I

1649
01:31:16,079 --> 01:31:19,560
like the Blue Well, especially like
the blueliness. It made no sense why

1650
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:24,119
she changed back after the mission.
That was really why. It was like,

1651
01:31:24,199 --> 01:31:26,880
oh so this that's like more work
too, from like a filming point

1652
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:28,840
of view, Yeah, it's just
like all this day she didn't want to

1653
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,640
sit in the chair right like,
but she was still in she like showed

1654
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:35,359
up with I know, but that
makes maybe makes me think they shot those

1655
01:31:35,399 --> 01:31:40,359
scenes differently, like when we're talking
about that that uh Scott Magneto stuff,

1656
01:31:40,359 --> 01:31:42,800
you know, because who knows who
knows that? And we need a documentary

1657
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,520
for this. I honestly would I
would be down. Yeah, my first

1658
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,560
question, why do you do quicksilver
during? My first question is why?

1659
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:58,840
Why? Yeah? For me personally, I this is probably like my She's

1660
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:00,800
not in it a lot. May
that adds to why I think this is

1661
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:06,000
Jennifer Lawrence like best movie as Mystique. I was actually getting little emotional when

1662
01:32:06,039 --> 01:32:10,279
she died, which is funny because
I actually really did not like her in

1663
01:32:10,399 --> 01:32:15,880
like the the first two adaptations of
like First Class and Days of Future Past.

1664
01:32:16,199 --> 01:32:19,000
I don't know what it was.
Maybe it's just like I've seen like

1665
01:32:19,079 --> 01:32:24,000
this character like mystique not necessary jennif
Lawrences mystique. But maybe she's just been

1666
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,560
she's been on the ride, right, like the All X Men, she's

1667
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,960
been in it. She's been.
That character has been same thing as Charles

1668
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:33,840
and you know since uh X one, yeah, you know g trilogy,

1669
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:38,479
Like she's been like that character is
not even like you said, Jenner Lawrence,

1670
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,079
that character has been around the beginning
as well, exactly. So like

1671
01:32:41,279 --> 01:32:44,560
seeing her killed off, And also
I wasn't really expecting her to die the

1672
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:46,479
way she did. Maybe I'm just
a little blind. I mean, like

1673
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,000
in that scene or just in that
scene, I know she was gonna die

1674
01:32:49,119 --> 01:32:51,039
like in the movie. I think
we kind of figured that out from the

1675
01:32:51,079 --> 01:32:55,359
trailers. The director told us yea, yeah, yeah exactly. She didn't

1676
01:32:55,359 --> 01:32:58,520
tell me someone And the weird thing
is Quick Silver he's not in the movie.

1677
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:00,279
The weird thing is they asked him
why. He said that. He's

1678
01:33:00,279 --> 01:33:02,640
like, well, we wanted to
show everyone like the steak's a really big

1679
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:08,479
and anyone's life is at risk,
but then no one else dies. Anyone

1680
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:10,760
can die. I don't want to
it only the one I said. I

1681
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:15,199
will not call him f in idiot, but the sentiment is there because it's

1682
01:33:15,359 --> 01:33:18,199
like I feel like he sounds like
he's like nineteen years older. I was

1683
01:33:18,279 --> 01:33:25,199
just young, doesn't really know what
he's doing. That he wrote to Holland

1684
01:33:25,279 --> 01:33:28,520
just giving away, like all this
stuff he wrote, Day's Future Past.

1685
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:31,479
It's been all of these movies.
But like that scene maybe because uh,

1686
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:39,119
like it kind of shows like maybe
I'm with Dylan's and Dylan's both though,

1687
01:33:39,119 --> 01:33:42,039
where it's like I did buy like
the dynamic that she had with the rest

1688
01:33:42,039 --> 01:33:43,960
of the mutants, Like I felt
like she was kind of like a sister

1689
01:33:44,079 --> 01:33:46,119
to them, not just like how
Charles is like their father figure. She's

1690
01:33:46,239 --> 01:33:49,359
she's more of like a sister,
right, like part of them. She's

1691
01:33:49,399 --> 01:33:53,359
in the trenches. Yeah, exactly. That's a good Uh, it's a

1692
01:33:53,359 --> 01:33:56,720
good way to say it. And
so when she had that moment Jean and

1693
01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:00,399
then like the burst just comes and
she's just like you don't even see the

1694
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:04,439
the what was it was like wood
spike or something that just punctured breh.

1695
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:10,039
It was a classic picket. Yeah, but like you don't see it at

1696
01:34:10,079 --> 01:34:12,600
first, but just on the like
their faces, you can you can kind

1697
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,920
of tell what happened, and just
like just the atmosphere that was going on.

1698
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:17,079
It was like wow, like this
is kind of heavy, and for

1699
01:34:17,199 --> 01:34:20,920
me personally, I kind of took
that emotionally, but I wasn't fall out

1700
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:26,359
balling like like Infinity War Endgame style, but it was definitely like wow.

1701
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:30,239
I think for me, just because
it was spoiled in the trailers and just

1702
01:34:30,279 --> 01:34:31,840
confirmed by the director that like I
knew it was coming, I think that

1703
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,560
took away the emotional impact for me, even though I have really liked that

1704
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:39,359
care I've liked her in all the
movies Apocalypse, Apocalypse, I'm a little

1705
01:34:39,399 --> 01:34:42,319
fuzzy on just haven't seen it super
recently, but I've always been a fan

1706
01:34:42,359 --> 01:34:45,680
of her. But also as soon
as she like it was it was shown

1707
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:47,600
that she died, someone in our
theater just had the most massive gasp of

1708
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:50,960
all time and was like, oh
my god, really no. They were

1709
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:55,199
very, very loud. I think
there were one hundred percent young girls like

1710
01:34:55,399 --> 01:35:00,560
when they're just like games. Fans
had no idea She's I die in the

1711
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:03,720
first twenty minutes and yeah, so
that's that definitely took away from me too,

1712
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:06,520
where I was like yeah, seriously, Also, like, because this

1713
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:10,159
movie has been pushed back so much, I feel like the first trailer I

1714
01:35:10,279 --> 01:35:14,079
saw was like fucking years ago,
so I really don't remember much what happened.

1715
01:35:14,079 --> 01:35:17,680
And I feel like when when we
first watched that trailer too, it

1716
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:23,399
was like you can kind of see
like mystique. Again, I haven't seen

1717
01:35:23,399 --> 01:35:25,359
a long time, so maybe I'm
totally wrong here, but I felt like

1718
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:29,800
she was kind of like like under
like distress, like we thought that was

1719
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:31,760
her death scene, so I felt
like that might have just been happening later

1720
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,560
when they're like trying to take her
out, not just like trying to talk

1721
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:39,000
her down. And then the Phoenix
is just like confusing that with Apocalps because

1722
01:35:39,039 --> 01:35:41,960
Apocalypse they really stressed one point,
she's like getting choked in that truck.

1723
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,479
Okay, yeah, probably then,
because like I said, I have not

1724
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:45,800
seen that trailer a long time,
I'm pretty sure the Dark Phoenix one literally

1725
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:49,359
shows her getting thrown like it shows
the death scene without like the penetration.

1726
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:55,279
Oh okay. See. That definitely
helped me a lot though, because it

1727
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:58,319
did make me feel like more emotional
for that scene where if I watched the

1728
01:35:58,359 --> 01:36:00,800
trailer, listen to the director say
that she dies, I don't know if

1729
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,560
you said the first toy is but
she basically confirmed that she dies. So

1730
01:36:04,039 --> 01:36:08,359
maybe me not like having that knowledge, for we just have a heart and

1731
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:11,039
me and Travis don't that is true. Who's to say that is true?

1732
01:36:11,079 --> 01:36:13,840
No one can really say. But
I agree with you. I don't know

1733
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:15,119
if i'd say this is her best
movie. That's a pretty bold claim.

1734
01:36:15,399 --> 01:36:18,640
But I thought it was. I
thought it was like astique man, Yeah,

1735
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:24,000
I know, I okay, yeah, I'm still yeah, just because

1736
01:36:24,239 --> 01:36:27,279
I mean, Laura's best movie in
her career. Obviously, you guys just

1737
01:36:27,319 --> 01:36:29,760
did a retro and I have been
watching and analyzing all of them, whereas

1738
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:32,520
I'm I watched The Future Pass recently, like not like probably. I think

1739
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,000
I watched it on one of my
flights in and around of Paul, so

1740
01:36:35,239 --> 01:36:39,960
it's pretty recent that I watched it. Uh, But I like the the

1741
01:36:40,039 --> 01:36:43,680
interest scene where she's kind of commanding
the team. I took it as like

1742
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:45,520
they cared about her, right,
there wasn't just like some annoying boss till

1743
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,880
they want to do like they they
cared about her opinion. They valued it,

1744
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,279
and even if they want to do
some different strategy, they're like,

1745
01:36:50,319 --> 01:36:54,520
yeah, we're gonna trust her.
And obviously you get some scenes with her

1746
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:58,680
and beast you get you get the
like I guess you really don't get a

1747
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,680
scene of her and Genie like talking. It's more just kind of a couple

1748
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:05,520
of little lines here or there.
But yeah, I guess I bought her

1749
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:09,239
relationship. I think she fit in
with the team well, so the emotional

1750
01:37:09,279 --> 01:37:12,479
impact like should have been there.
I think it was just honestly, I

1751
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:15,000
think it was just like the spoiler
of it. It's like I knew she's

1752
01:37:15,039 --> 01:37:17,279
dying right now. That's big,
and especially the director just tells you.

1753
01:37:18,319 --> 01:37:23,359
So I'm not sure why it wasn't
as emotional for me, but heartless.

1754
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:27,920
Yeah, I clearly don't have a
heart like someone else, like someone else

1755
01:37:28,359 --> 01:37:31,960
all right, else any other notes, No, I'm trying to think.

1756
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:35,600
I just want to say again the
music is amazing because it really deserves to

1757
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:39,439
be said, and really good soundtrack. Like if anything, if this movie

1758
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:42,199
is shown up anywhere in the Golden
Geeks, it's for soundtrack, and there's

1759
01:37:42,239 --> 01:37:45,319
there's a chance it's it's at least
on the table of the look. I

1760
01:37:45,359 --> 01:37:47,920
don't know if there's ever been a
Golden Geeks soundtrack nomination that's just been the

1761
01:37:48,079 --> 01:37:51,640
soundtracked alone. And nothing else.
You know. I think thor Ragnarok might

1762
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:56,079
be the only one which ended up
winning Best Score that year. So M

1763
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,760
yeah, yeah, I got nothing
else able this movie. My little,

1764
01:38:00,239 --> 01:38:03,439
my fun little trivia that I mentioned. I don't want to tell Travis before

1765
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:06,880
the cast because I wanted to be
a shock at everyone. The yes it

1766
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,479
is, you know, following the
theme of the retro. You know,

1767
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:14,000
we have triviaan retros and I don't
know if you'd call us a retro parts

1768
01:38:14,039 --> 01:38:16,800
assume that I don't know this though, right, I am, okay,

1769
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:20,439
but I probably don't know. I'm
I'm at trivia to someone. I feel

1770
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:24,680
like I'm ninety two percent sure you
don't know this. And then since you

1771
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:27,680
just said that, the percentage kind
of went down. But I'm still like

1772
01:38:28,039 --> 01:38:30,520
seventy listeners, like some of them
aren't going to oh some of them probably

1773
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:34,399
do because what let me like some
listeners who don't know what this movie is

1774
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:38,000
and they're just listening because they're fans
of us, and I respect you a

1775
01:38:38,079 --> 01:38:45,800
lotbscribed Okay, so the when they're
in Paris, Charles and Fastbender Magneto,

1776
01:38:46,039 --> 01:38:54,199
I did, but then you didn't. So Fastbender and McAvoy. They when

1777
01:38:54,199 --> 01:38:57,000
they when they're in the Paris playing
chess, and you know, it's kind

1778
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:00,119
of a send off because we've those
two they have like an inch risin friendship

1779
01:39:00,199 --> 01:39:04,119
dynamic. But when it's kind of
panning out and then it's going up to

1780
01:39:04,159 --> 01:39:09,399
the Phoenix, uh, the phoenix
scene up in the sky, it shows

1781
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:12,239
the name of the cafe, and
obviously it's in French, so people that

1782
01:39:12,359 --> 01:39:15,760
don't know French probably didn't know this, but it actually translates to the cafe

1783
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,319
of old Friends, which I thought
was kind of funny because obviously they're old

1784
01:39:18,319 --> 01:39:21,039
friends and like they kind of played
on that throughout the entire X Men series.

1785
01:39:21,199 --> 01:39:24,119
That's cool, so I thought it
was I thought it was cool.

1786
01:39:24,239 --> 01:39:26,840
I do know French, and I
did not notice that. Okay, did

1787
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:29,840
you know? No? I didn't, Okay, perfect, thank you nice.

1788
01:39:30,079 --> 01:39:31,399
I was just waiting for Alfred to
pop up from dark Knight Rise.

1789
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:35,279
When the child sat down, it
was like the exact same scenery. Christian

1790
01:39:35,319 --> 01:39:39,720
bal So, let me ask you
on this one piece of trivia, and

1791
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:42,439
only this piece, because I was
watching it and it was in French.

1792
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:45,119
It said that cafe to patron Villa. He speaks French. I learned that

1793
01:39:45,279 --> 01:39:48,600
next me retro. Oh it was
in the subtitles. It he is the

1794
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:53,880
title of the the title the name
of the cafe. So when it was

1795
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,840
panning up, like it was obviously
written in French to Paris. So you

1796
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:59,439
know how when you go to a
restaurant sometimes that's above the doors, there's

1797
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:02,000
the star Buck. I understand that. What I'm saying is what I I

1798
01:40:02,039 --> 01:40:06,359
I saw you like saw this trivia
like online like oh yeah, there was

1799
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:09,640
like sorry, it's like on the
I m dB pages, Like that's a

1800
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:11,920
pretty bold thing for them to put
on there. Like day one, I

1801
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,479
did a bad job at like pre
fixing what I was about to say.

1802
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:17,520
It's your first trivia and it is. There's only two things on IMV.

1803
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:29,680
Wore that and no mystique dies quote
director Simon quick Silver hoo oh yeah right

1804
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:32,680
now I don't have any more trivia. Yeah, well, Phil Overalls,

1805
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:35,880
I'm pretty sure I might be wrong. I think I gay X Men Last

1806
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:40,399
Stand a four, and I think
I maybe like dwindled, But if it's

1807
01:40:40,399 --> 01:40:43,279
a four, I'd give it the
exact same score because I think there's like

1808
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:45,640
similar problems but then very different problems, but like I said, if I

1809
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:48,079
had to rank them, I put
this one below. So for me,

1810
01:40:48,119 --> 01:40:51,239
it's the second worst. X Men
Origins is still down there. But this

1811
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:55,279
had a very good start, like
I said, but X three just has

1812
01:40:55,359 --> 01:40:58,199
that jack enough and that thing.
We're fast beenners in this, but that

1813
01:40:58,399 --> 01:41:00,720
the advantage we have an X three's
the main character. We mostly fall in

1814
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:04,119
the whole movie where Fastbender is either
poorly written or he's out of it a

1815
01:41:04,159 --> 01:41:06,680
lot of the movie. So that's
where that's where it just gives me that

1816
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:11,920
little uh slight And honestly, when
we talk more about the quick Silver stuff

1817
01:41:12,079 --> 01:41:14,600
and things like that, just things
that were grinding my gears. There's things

1818
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:16,960
that made me more mad in this
where to me, X three they did

1819
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:20,640
stuff and they just execute poorly,
where this was just instead of executing it,

1820
01:41:21,079 --> 01:41:24,439
they're like, oh, we might
do it poorly, let's not even

1821
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:26,600
try, and they just didn't even
try, like the quick Silver stuff like

1822
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:30,359
villain stuff. So uh yeah,
just lazy, uninspiring. I've said this

1823
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:32,319
before, but the last half was
just not my numbing. I was just

1824
01:41:32,399 --> 01:41:35,439
sitting there and I could just feel
brain cells deteriorating, and yeah, that

1825
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:39,920
sounds very hyperbolic, but that that's
what it felt like to me. It's

1826
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:43,960
just like, Eh, this sucks. This is just she did. Yeah

1827
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:46,840
really, this is just comic book
movies of old and uh yeah. Like

1828
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:50,920
I said, I'm disappointed because I've
always wanted the X Men in the mc

1829
01:41:51,119 --> 01:41:54,319
kind of like Spider Man where they
share. But at the end of the

1830
01:41:54,359 --> 01:41:56,680
day, I already got Deadpool,
I got Logan, I got Day's Future

1831
01:41:56,680 --> 01:42:00,239
Past, which I feel is greater
than many MCU movies. So if even

1832
01:42:00,359 --> 01:42:02,359
MS comes out and it's X Factor
and it's super lame and I'm not a

1833
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:04,840
fan and they say, oh,
we're not gonna do mag Neil and Charles

1834
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:08,640
because it's been done so much.
I have these things of movies, and

1835
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:11,239
yeah, it leaves a sour taste
in my mouth for the legacy a little

1836
01:42:11,279 --> 01:42:13,199
bit. But at the end of
the day, I'm gonna go back and

1837
01:42:13,279 --> 01:42:16,079
watch those classic ones because they did
give us some great, fantastic X Men

1838
01:42:16,199 --> 01:42:18,880
movies and it sucks that this is
not one of them. I really even

1839
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:23,520
just a decent one. I could
have like Taken, but we didn't get

1840
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:27,439
that. But yeah, so I
four at ten for me. Second worst

1841
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:30,039
x ME Movie of all Time.
Yeah, it's it's too bad what this

1842
01:42:30,159 --> 01:42:33,000
movie is because there's, as we
mentioned, like there's a lot of like

1843
01:42:33,119 --> 01:42:38,119
inklings or the buddings of it could
be really fun ideas if they just changed

1844
01:42:38,159 --> 01:42:40,600
like one or two things, or
if they decided one scene between these two

1845
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:44,720
characters here or just took this one
thing out. So there's I don't know,

1846
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:47,239
there's like some you know, perfect
there's like some master cut perhaps where

1847
01:42:47,279 --> 01:42:50,880
this movie is like more interesting and
uh, you know from start to finish.

1848
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:55,000
But the finale wasn't space. The
finale wasn't space at one point in

1849
01:42:55,039 --> 01:42:57,920
time, so it changed it clearly
because of Captain Marble. I mean,

1850
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,319
the finale still kind of ends in
space at some point technically, So I

1851
01:43:00,399 --> 01:43:05,159
wonder what I wonder if everyone is
in space original I think she probably fought

1852
01:43:05,319 --> 01:43:10,760
in space very similar to Captain Marvel
when she's especially because Captain Marvel, what

1853
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:13,359
does she say, like, you
know, like the whole thing is about

1854
01:43:13,359 --> 01:43:15,479
how her emotions actually make her stronger? Oh, same thing as Phoenix.

1855
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:19,239
It's like verbatim yea, yeah,
so I think that's why they did change

1856
01:43:19,279 --> 01:43:24,800
it, right, So overall,
just disappoint an end to what have been

1857
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:29,800
not just ballpark movies across the board, but there's been a lot of fun

1858
01:43:30,079 --> 01:43:32,279
things. There's been amazing characters,
and so it kind of sucks that this

1859
01:43:32,399 --> 01:43:35,319
is the way it goes out.
But I think one tip for you know,

1860
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:39,720
young filmmakers out there is if you're
gonna make a bad movie, or

1861
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:43,119
if you realize midway through project that
you're making a bad movie, get Hans

1862
01:43:43,239 --> 01:43:46,079
Zimmer to do your soundtrack and I'll
still give it a thumbs up. So,

1863
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:49,399
yeah, am I giving this movie
thumbs up? Maybe not, but

1864
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:54,239
it's pretty close, like sounds like
wavering. It's a good sound. Yeah,

1865
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:57,159
it wants to, it wants to. It was nice to listen to.

1866
01:43:57,399 --> 01:43:59,520
It was nice to listen too,
Like this is a movie you could

1867
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:01,840
watch with your eyes closed, so
you probably could. Yeah, you wouldn't

1868
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:05,840
miss much. Oh that's fire.
Yeah, you wouldn't miss over at all.

1869
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:10,479
That. I really want a gift
of that Magneto girl train scene where

1870
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:14,159
she just got to get in my
mind. I feel like it didn't happen

1871
01:44:14,199 --> 01:44:15,239
this way, but I feel like
he just grabbed her by the face,

1872
01:44:15,359 --> 01:44:18,680
like I can't remember, but yeah
you might, we should. Yeah,

1873
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:24,000
we should definitely photoshop like that being
quick silver and then like the hand says,

1874
01:44:24,199 --> 01:44:27,960
just like X men the director's name
on it. That's a me maker

1875
01:44:28,039 --> 01:44:30,039
moment. Make it right there,
there you go. You can whoever make

1876
01:44:30,119 --> 01:44:32,640
you know, whoever makes that one
of the listeners out there, you know,

1877
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,000
tag us say hello, like you
can have all credit for it,

1878
01:44:35,119 --> 01:44:38,760
but definitely like show us because I
want to see it. The little GV

1879
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:43,000
logo in the bottom, just the
tiniest of we won't take credit for a

1880
01:44:43,079 --> 01:44:47,880
cirkle and put the logo. Yeah, okay, but talking about this movie

1881
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:54,039
though, these two fine gentlemen next
to me probably hit the hit the nail

1882
01:44:54,079 --> 01:45:00,319
on the head here basically said everything
really good soundtrack into the Pikes, really

1883
01:45:00,359 --> 01:45:04,479
good soundtrack. Like it's funny that
when you go out of a movie like

1884
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:08,560
this, like the best part is
this is the music. So that is

1885
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:15,159
saying a lot. But like all
seriousness, I did like the beginning of

1886
01:45:15,239 --> 01:45:18,119
this movie, but we've already mentioned
it. Just as it went on,

1887
01:45:18,319 --> 01:45:20,960
it was just not looking good and
it just got worse and worse. So

1888
01:45:24,319 --> 01:45:27,960
I wish I'm like remembered my ratings
for the other ones. Yeah, I

1889
01:45:28,079 --> 01:45:30,520
never do but uh, with your
heart, go with my heart. So

1890
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:32,479
I don't do the ranking system,
and I have nothing to live up to,

1891
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:36,640
no kiddy, especially like once you
compare two movies or Taylor's a whole

1892
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:40,199
other can of worms. But like
it's like, if you're not careful,

1893
01:45:40,199 --> 01:45:43,600
you might fall into the same trap. I know exactly, especially when maybe

1894
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:49,439
it is frush. Just don't do
ratings. Yeah, I'm gonna stick to

1895
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:53,560
what I was saying earlier, though
I do like this one more than Last

1896
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:57,199
Stand. But oh no, what
did I say? You said it was

1897
01:45:57,199 --> 01:45:59,039
like tie, But I think you
gave this one a little bit of an

1898
01:45:59,119 --> 01:46:01,520
edge still over Yeah, so a
little bit less than Apocalypse and a little

1899
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:06,760
bit over the Last Stand probably for
like the like the action sequences and like

1900
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:11,680
the CGI looks of it. I
just probably like that probably carries it more

1901
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:16,920
than what Wolverine could carry in the
Last Stand movie, because I feel that

1902
01:46:17,119 --> 01:46:21,279
is a that is a good point. Actually maybe this is above Travis.

1903
01:46:21,359 --> 01:46:26,000
You just wavered me. I'd say
this is probably better worse than Last Stand.

1904
01:46:26,319 --> 01:46:29,479
Just I totally forgot about the og
Beast and how much I like that

1905
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:31,119
guy in it, because for some
reason I thought he was in the second

1906
01:46:31,199 --> 01:46:36,399
movie. But uh no, yeah, so I'm gonna rate this a four

1907
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:40,520
out of ten. I hope that
makes sense with what my X Men ranking

1908
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:43,800
is. Probably won't, but uh
I thought it'd be hard on that for

1909
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:45,680
you. Well, when I left
the theater today, I thought it was

1910
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,079
a six, and then you know, you sleep on it. That's why

1911
01:46:48,279 --> 01:46:50,479
that's why I kind of like doing
reviews the day after, because it gets

1912
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:55,159
time to like simmer, you know, fully fully get the real ratings out.

1913
01:46:56,079 --> 01:46:58,000
And then I was like five,
and I'm like, I don't think

1914
01:46:58,039 --> 01:47:01,319
I could pass this movie. It
was mostly due to like the whole Quicksilver

1915
01:47:01,359 --> 01:47:05,439
stuff. We were talking about how
they just totally totally just wrote that off

1916
01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:09,279
and it was just like man,
like they didn't even like put in an

1917
01:47:09,279 --> 01:47:13,039
effort right to like because it would
be one thing to like bring in the

1918
01:47:13,159 --> 01:47:16,720
Quicksilver Magneto dynamic and like have it
be terrible, but like they didn't even

1919
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:20,279
try. So it's like I would
rather critique that movie, yeah exactly.

1920
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:23,439
I would have given them a little
bit of credit if they did it that

1921
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:26,840
way, but the fact that they
didn't even try and just other things that

1922
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:30,680
happened the villain was so bad and
just it's not I'm not gonna pass it,

1923
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:33,239
so I'm gonna I'm gonna leave it
a four just before we go.

1924
01:47:33,359 --> 01:47:38,399
In our X men poll tonight,
it's Ajax from Deadpool versus Dark Phoenix from

1925
01:47:39,119 --> 01:47:45,239
Jena from Jane Green, you from
from Jean Gray from X three. And

1926
01:47:45,399 --> 01:47:47,119
that's funny that I still at me
said that because there's someone in the comments

1927
01:47:47,159 --> 01:47:53,439
that said, Jane all the way
to that guy. I hope you're listening.

1928
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:58,560
Okay, X Factory, we'll call
that, like I said, X

1929
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:01,680
factor. I swear X factor because
it's giving one of those things. If

1930
01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:04,840
you have a problem with you,
are you misogynists? You know what I

1931
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:08,359
mean. Obviously you can call it
not X men. I'm fine with that,

1932
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:12,199
but don't call it X factor with
a better TV show about that.

1933
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:15,359
It's a talent show. Yeah it's
not. It's not really. I just

1934
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:17,239
feel like from a branding point of
view, like people aren't gonna like just

1935
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:20,159
do X men like that's what people
know X women. I don't give a

1936
01:48:20,199 --> 01:48:26,880
ship. Sure, I don't ex
woman and man like like Jamaican X men.

1937
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:31,119
Maybe they'll just take maybe just take
the approach this because this movie is

1938
01:48:31,159 --> 01:48:34,479
technically just called Dark Phoenix, it's
not called X ME, So maybe do

1939
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:36,720
that. I'm more fun. I
can't tell you. I cannot tell you

1940
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:41,039
how many times I got duped by
like the atom app or like trying to

1941
01:48:41,119 --> 01:48:45,000
look at the I m dB by
punching it X men and finding absolutely no

1942
01:48:45,079 --> 01:48:47,199
results. I thought, I bought
a ticket. What movie am I going

1943
01:48:47,279 --> 01:48:54,640
to? Did they delay it again? I thought I was in the theater,

1944
01:48:55,159 --> 01:48:57,840
and I thought I was actually in
the theater before it started, which

1945
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,920
is a rarity for me. And
it was like movie sorry at six forty

1946
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:03,520
five, it was six forty four
six, there's the screen is dead.

1947
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:05,720
There's no one, like very little
people in theater. I'm like, what's

1948
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:09,359
going on here? Like did a
good pushback? I checked my phone,

1949
01:49:09,399 --> 01:49:12,079
It's still there. I'm like,
I text Travis, like Travis is usually

1950
01:49:12,079 --> 01:49:15,079
here by now. Whe's Travis right
now? And then it was like sixty

1951
01:49:15,119 --> 01:49:17,199
five, like it went. It
got right into the trailers. There was

1952
01:49:17,239 --> 01:49:20,720
no foreplay on that one. It's
very bizarre. I hope they call it

1953
01:49:21,039 --> 01:49:25,560
X Factor. Far from Home.
It's far from Fox. That's far from

1954
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:29,399
far. But I said at the
beginning, if you like what we do.

1955
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:31,239
If you like this review, please
subscribe. We got a great few

1956
01:49:31,279 --> 01:49:35,079
two weeks ahead of us Tarantino retros. I don't know what, don't know

1957
01:49:35,119 --> 01:49:38,560
what that was. I thought it
was me but me, you know,

1958
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:43,399
we got Tarantino retros coming soon.
E three Men in Black Reviews giving Happening,

1959
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:45,359
Toy Story four, Spider Man Far
from Home. We got a great

1960
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:49,439
month ahead of us, so Comic
Gone two, and then I forgot to

1961
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:53,680
announce it. I'll anounce it now. I mean I clip it out because

1962
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:56,039
I thought for X Men we should
have done it, but god damn it,

1963
01:49:56,119 --> 01:50:00,920
I forgot for July twenty If that's
the official day, right, uh?

1964
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:04,079
In nineteenth is the release right,
well, that would be a Thursday.

1965
01:50:04,199 --> 01:50:08,680
I don't know for the We're talking
about the same thing, right,

1966
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:12,880
It's two days technically, so you
could just you could just refall for one

1967
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:15,479
of the two days, and it's
yeah, it's the twentieth. The nineteenth

1968
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:17,920
is the friday. So what we
are doing for our four year anniversary,

1969
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:23,319
well, yeah, for four anniversary, we are gonna be doing probably a

1970
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:26,640
twenty four hour stream if our technology
allows us, like we do in November

1971
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:28,640
this time is not gonna be a
cherry one. It's just gonna be a

1972
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:30,119
celebration. We're gonna have some fun. We want to come join, but

1973
01:50:30,279 --> 01:50:34,960
most importantly, we're gonna be playing
Marvel. Ultimately, we're gonna play through

1974
01:50:35,119 --> 01:50:39,880
it all multi time, especially with
the news dropping that Comic Con doesn't have

1975
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:42,479
anything going on at all, so
we're just gonna be playing. So yeah,

1976
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,399
if there's any like news or trailer, we might stop for a second

1977
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:47,159
and do a quick, like twenty
three minute cast, but that's what's gonna

1978
01:50:47,159 --> 01:50:50,520
be. It's gonna be a day
of us streaming, us playing games,

1979
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:54,119
hanging out, so come hang out. I should promote the beginning. I'm

1980
01:50:54,199 --> 01:50:57,199
so salty that I didn't, but
I'm gonna be pimping this up for weeks

1981
01:50:57,239 --> 01:51:00,680
of July twentieth market. We're still
gonna do like a four year threecasts where

1982
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:02,960
we ask questions and have fun.
But we're gonna do a stream second week

1983
01:51:03,039 --> 01:51:06,000
of July. Yeah, and most
of uh yeah, and most of our

1984
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:11,439
Ultimate Alliance content has been doing really
well, especially on YouTube. So uh,

1985
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:13,960
if you like what we've been talking
about, if you're excited to come

1986
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:16,119
watches, we're gonna we're gonna try
and play through that at the entire campaign.

1987
01:51:16,159 --> 01:51:18,119
We're gonna, like I said,
we wanted to be a twenty four

1988
01:51:18,159 --> 01:51:21,279
hour stream. We're gonna have some
fun there. So yeah, that's gonna

1989
01:51:21,279 --> 01:51:26,399
be our celebration. So thank you
very much for tuning in. Have an

1990
01:51:26,399 --> 01:51:29,279
exciting day, and until next time, it'll all be boring. You guys

1991
01:51:29,279 --> 01:51:30,640
don't have like a set outro,
did you? No? We left up.

1992
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:32,840
I left up to Kylin Kirk.
That was a big mistake and it

1993
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:35,640
like kind of changed me tweak.
It was like trying to play on like

1994
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:40,640
the X pun, but it was
I always forgot till the very end,

1995
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:44,479
and then Kyle would quickly like google
something. And our retro outros have been

1996
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:50,359
notoriously bad. At one point to
Kyle said, have an Excalibur day. Yeah,
