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You're listening to KFI on demand.
Every now and then we have callers or

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as we try and move through things
on the show, and I get to

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chat chat with some of you folks
off the air talk about heaven and the

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timing of all of it in scripture, and what is heaven going to be

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like? And that's such a wonderful
question and difficult to answer in many ways,

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because you know, you talk about
heaven and you open up a lot

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of doors to the unknown as far
as humans and what you experience on Earth

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and how it will be tied to
what you experience once you're in eternity and

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in that state with God. Now, the word in the Greek that's translated

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to heaven means to lift or to
heave, and this really is an interesting

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way of looking heaven to lift up
or to move you into that state of

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grace with God. But there's something
magical about heaven, and I say that

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in the not in the metaphysical sense, but in the state of wonderment where

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there's a lot that you don't know
about Heaven. Throughout scripture, there are

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things that are talked about, but
you can't really place a true understanding on

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heaven because heaven is unlike anything you've
experienced here, and that to try and

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wrap your mind around what you're going
to be doing, because some people go,

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gosh, you know, last thing
I want to do is sit around

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listen to someone play harp on a
cloud all day. That sounds boring,

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but there is no comparison to what
you experience here. Every day you're you're

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looking at it as if there's a
clock going by ticking every moment and you're

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just going, oh, well,
you know, there's there's no baseball in

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heaven, or there's not much to
do. That's not what it is.

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You see, every experience you've had
on earth, everything you've experienced that you've

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enjoyed on earth, is just a
peace apart of joy. It's not actual

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joy. It's been said that happiness
is just a momentary feeling of joy due

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to a happening. So imagine the
source, the core source of that joy.

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And that's what heaven is. The
Heaven is the fulfillment of all hope.

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There's no need for even those experiences
of happiness, those desires you have.

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It's the fulfillment of all of that. Every moment of your life has

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spent searching for something or trying to
find that that happiness. You know,

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I've said this before, but Scripture
never promises you happiness on earth. The

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only thing you're called to on earth
is to do what's right, to be

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in a state of righteousness. Let's
it now. Righteousness has its privileges.

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While in that state, life does
move better, more efficiently, because that's

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how the Father designed it. But
as you go through these experiences in life

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and you're looking for joy or you're
looking for happiness and these things, that

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Heaven is the fulfillment of those.
You couldn't wrap your mind around it if

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you wanted to. You can read
descriptions that the streets are lined with gold,

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and that's really metaphorical. It's trying
to let you know that even the

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ground, the very ground you're walking
on, is precious to symbolize, to

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let you know that everything is different
from what you might expect. And there's

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those that use kind of anthropomorphical,
very human language about heaven and think,

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well, Okay, it's just going
to be one big family reunion. And

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that's not true either. It's not
just being and I love that language.

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Just being in the presence of God
as if that were not enough. To

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be in the presence of God,
to share an understanding with God, while

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in the presence of God, to
be in the truest state of worship,

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the deepest, most intense, reverent
love with God is beyond your comprehension.

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We've talked about the analogy on the
program before about if you were to try

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and explain the intensity and the beauty
of love making in marriage to a four

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year old. Now, why you
would be sharing that with a four year

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old is beside the point. But
if you were to try and explain the

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intensity of two people coming together in
love, in the bonds of marriage,

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coming together as one in the most
intense an intimate expression of love ever,

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the child would look up at you
with a strange look on their face and

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say, well, can I bring
chocolate? Can I bring my toy?

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Because a child can't comprehend the beauty
or intensity of that kind of intimate moment

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and shouldn't be able to. But
to an adult, you'd look and you'd

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go, oh, my gosh,
you don't even know how much better this

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is than chocolate or toys, And
that beauty, that intense beauty, cannot

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be understood shared or appreciated by a
four year old. Similarly, that the

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beauty and intensity of Heaven is so
beyond any experience you've had on earth that

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there's no way to really compare it. Sure, you see the glory of

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God in things in creation, you've
experienced blessings, and you've experienced some joy,

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But to try and compare that to
being in the presence of true holiness

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and wholeness, being complete, not
not wandering, not searching, not wanting,

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not hoping, but in that state
of completeness is beyond anything you've ever

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experienced. Could you imagine trying to
trying to understand the heat of the sun,

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the true heat of the surface of
the sun, based on the hottest

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day you've ever experienced while on earth. It just it doesn't measure up.

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Well. It was pretty hot,
it's about one hundred and twelve I remember,

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and not so much. It was
a dry heat, so it wasn't

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too bad, And there's no comparison. Now, magnify that beyond a number

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that your head could even count.
And that's what heaven is. It's this,

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It's this place, the dumb and
stile of God, that you will

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be able to share in should you
choose to live your life for God.

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And that's a really really heavy and
amazing thing. It's outside of time.

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It's not bound by time. It's
not bound by the pains, the suffering,

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the ugliness that take place on earth. All of those things will be

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gone. And it's not something that
words will simply describe or that you will

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go, Okay, that makes sense. It's so far beyond that, and

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you shoot for that and you live
your life for that, knowing that to

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be in the presence of God in
that way is beyond anything you've experienced here,

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and everything good that you've experienced on
earth is just a taste, just

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a little taste of what heaven will
be. Chuck, Welcome to the Jesus

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Christ Show. Thank you very much. I love your show. Oh thanks

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Jack. How can I help you? Well, it's a question about prayer,

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and I know that sometime I got
learned that you could put the other

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prayer with using the acts format.
But it's not about structure, it's more

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about content. My wife has had
a long problem with abdominal pain from multiple

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surgeries, and you know, when
she's in pain and it's it's tough,

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and so when I pray. You
know, I want to pray to have

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her get better, but I don't
know is that I'm not sure exactly how

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to pray to God about this.
I think I want her to have strength

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to handle it comes and also for
me, but I'm not sure exactly how

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to ask God to help. Well. The first of all, the X

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acronym is for those that don't know, stands for adoration, with confession,

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with thanksgiving, and supplication. Right, that's what you're speaking about, I

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am, yeah, okay. So
that's a formula that some people use or

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that children are taught or new believers
are taught to kind of give them structure

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and understanding of the prayer. And
this basically is based loosely on Matthew six

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and what is referred to as the
Lord's Prayer. So these things can be

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helpful for people to kind of understand
what you do, not forget certain things

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to kind of structure a prayer.
But the reality is all you ever care

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about and should care about is God's
will. Right, That's great. So

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really that's that's the focus and letting
God know your will. The weird relationship

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with prayer is this that if it's
it's to glorify God, not to get

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what you want. So if you
were walking down the street and a tree

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fell down and you said to the
person you were walking with, I made

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that tree fall down, they'd go, no, you didn't. But if

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you said I'm going to make that
tree fall down and then it falls down,

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they're going to think maybe that's the
case that you had something to do

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with it. So in just a
moment, I want you to hang tighten

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just a moment, I'll explain why
that's important, why that ties into prayer.

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You were chatting with, Chuck,
Are you still there, Chuck,

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thank you for whole thing. Now. You were talking about and I'm sorry

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to hear that your wife has a
chronic illness, and most importantly that is

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what I want us to focus on. But you were asking about prayer and

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the difficulty that you have with prayer. I was explaining about the illustration of

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somebody walking down the street and a
tree falls over, and then they turn

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to the person there with and say, hey, look I made that tree

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fall over. No one would believe
that. But if you say I'm going

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to make that tree fall over and
it falls over, then people are they

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give more credence to it and wait
to it. So likewise, with prayer,

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it's not so much that you're trying
to tell God what to do or

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even what you want per se.
It's to glorify God if he chooses for

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that to be the outcome, so
that God gets the credit. And it's

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a strange balance, but really you're
not there to change God's mind, and

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you won't change God's mind. It's
to let God know where that what you

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believe, to let others know what
you believe, and really the ultimate goal

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is God's will correct. And I
can hear that you're breaking up there,

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Chuck. I'm sorry we had to
put you on hold over the break and

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he's on a cell phone. But
ultimately I want to leave you with that,

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Chuck, because I know I can
hear the phone breaking up, but

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that when you pray for your wife
or anyone else, I focus on God's

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will and kind of use it as
a time of letting your heart, you

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know, open up to God and
express the pain that your wife is in,

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the pain that you are in,
not that God doesn't know, but

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so again so that you're in connection
and in tune. A prayer is there

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to tune the human to God's will, not God to the human's will,

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and people get that, you know, twisted. So you're praying for your

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wife's health and recovery, not so
you can change God's mind, but so

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that God gets the glory if he
chooses that. And that's really what it

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comes down to. And in that
process, your will is being Your will

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is being in tune with the will
of God by what God grants or doesn't

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grant, or decides or doesn't decide. Jeff, Welcome to the Jesus Christ

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Show. Hello. First of all, I wanted to tell you that I

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really enjoyed the first part of the
show where you were talking about how we

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treat other people, the decisions that
we make, and how important it is

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to make good decisions about that.
I really enjoyed that. I thought it

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was a good word. My question
is about the afterlife and when we go

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to heaven, when we're with the
Lord for eternity, do we still have

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free will at that time? I
have a hard time finding that in the

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Bible. And if we do,
would there be a possibility that we could

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ever have another Garden of Eden answered
it, that would occur? Great questions.

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Now, although deducing this from scripture
will take longer than we have time

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for. I want to bring you
philosophically through a couple of things. The

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belief is that angels are different than
humans, meaning they have similarities their creations

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of God. Some even some theologians, even believe that they're created in the

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image of God. Yet those that
fell from heaven and those that rejected God

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rejected God once and only once.
So although they had free will, it

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was free will based on a different
type of knowledge than you do as human

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that you have as a human.
So imagine it this way. If you

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get an eight ounce glass and you
fill it with eight ounces of water,

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it's full. You can't put any
more water in it. That's all it

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will hold. Well in humanity,
you're an eight ounce glass at birth that

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is being filled up throughout your life. So whenever, whatever the age is

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that you go to be with your
Maker, that is when the glass is

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filled. But to an angel is
born with a full glass, that's all

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they'll ever know because they're they're created
in the presence of God, and everything

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they'll know or understand is understood.
So when they make a decision, it's

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a one time decision only, so
they have free will, but the decision

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is made and they can't correct that
decision through salvation like humans can. The

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reason why humans can go back and
forth during their life life is because they

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are It doesn't mean that they can
rebel. I mean that as they come

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into new knowledge they can decide different
things. Is because that knowledge is being

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filled up. So having said that, in heaven, there's no need for

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free will in the same way,
in the same sense that the last decision

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that will ever be made has been
made, and that is the fulfillment of

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free will. So there is no
more need for hope, there is no

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more need for free will. There
is no more need for those things in

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heaven because the final decision has been
made and actualized once you're in heaven.

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So everything that you've hoped for or
ever, all the life experience, and

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all the things that have filled your
glass throughout the years, has made that

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final decision for eternity with God.
So there's no need for free will,

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And consequently there's no need for an
eden. It's not there is no other

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opportunities or to go back and forth. There is none of that because the

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decision has been made. It's like
you know, horrible thought. But if

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someone they refer to suicide as the
ultimate act of freedom that ends all other

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acts of freedom, there is no
way either. You can't change that.

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Once you've done it. It's a
final act, and it's done in total

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free will, and there's no way
to reverse it. And similarly, when

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somebody who is a full glass,
meaning that they're at the point of their

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graduation into Heaven, everything they will
ever know in this world is known,

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and the decision is made there now
going into the next world, that decision

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is finalized, or the consequences of
the decision or in play. So if

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somebody rejects God, then the consequences
of that are in play. If someone

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accepts God, and the consequences or
the reward of that is in play,

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but they are eternal at that point, and there's no need for free will

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in the same way, in the
same sense as here in heaven. Karen,

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welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Yes, thank you for taking my

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call, my pleasure. I called
about a year ago because my mom I

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was trying to do some free planning
because she was ninety two, and I

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was advised so many times to try
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bit so you're not caught up in
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something when it does happen. So
anyway, I took your advice. What

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a coincidence, and really tried to
follow my mom's wishes. She wanted to

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be buried next to my father up
North and Sacramento, and so many of

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my friends had said it was so
expensive to follow her wishes, but really

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God made it so easy because I
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you just get the money and you
do it because that's what she wanted.

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And she was a great mom for
you know, I'm fifty nine, so

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she was a great mom. One
evening ago, about three weeks ago,

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right before Mother's Day, I was
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had a kidney stone, and I
got a call from the other hospital telling

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me while I was in the er
with my son, telling me that I

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needed to get up to that hospital
because my mom was failing. She had

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breathing problems and stuff. And so
it was kind of weird because it was

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right before Mother's Day and I was
doing the mom thing with my son while

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my mom was beginning to make the
transition, and so I got my son

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home at one thirty in the morning, and I headed up to the other

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hospital on time to at least talk
to my mom she was in a coma,

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and just tell her it was okay
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And I just wanted to tell you
that I'm really at peace with following God's

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directives on that because she's buried next
to my dad, and it just all

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fell into place and made a lot
of sense. And I just feel like

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she kind of she knew I was
being a mom somehow, and she just

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waited for me to get up there. But I wanted to thank you because

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if I hadn't made that call last
year to this would have been maybe a

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horrible situation. And instead I'm just
really at peace. Oh that's wonderful to

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hear. I know that those are
times of deep pain and in sorrow when

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you go through the loss of somebody
like a parent, and the weight of

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that is too full because you're going
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and then all of a sudden you
have to take care of, you know,

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the mechanical things, the things that
need to take place for people to

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be buried and honored, and it
really takes a lot of strength and God

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guidance to get you through that,
because it's just been kind of this weird

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you know, you're dealing with paperwork
and the death certificates and all that stuff,

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and then you're trying to go,
Gosh, when am I going to

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grieve? Yeah? Oh, oftentimes
it comes much later, when when you're

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holding the football, as they say, and you're taking care of all that

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stuff. It really comes later.
But you know what, Karen, you

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did it, and God bless you
for it, and God bless you for

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honoring your parents as it says in
scripture, to the last day, and

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to take care of her wishes.
And I just say, God bless you

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and your dedication to that. And
I'm thrilled to be a part of it

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in some small way because I think
that it was very brave and a lovely

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way to honor your mother and her
wishes. It is the Jesus Christ Show.

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I am your Holy host. But
what a great note for my last

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thoughts here on the program today,
because that song is a beautiful song.

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It's kind of goes in and out
of two songs that goes from somewhere over

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the Rainbow too to it's the idea
of having a wonderful life, a great

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life, a good life. And
I think as we talked about many things

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earlier, dealing with convenience over safety
or other people and all of these things

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kind of coming together, and some
of the folks that we talked to is

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to focus on what your part is, what part you play in this world.

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Everybody always seems to be focused on
what everybody else is doing. But

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if you're really focused on what you
were doing and how to live and to

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be an example, then you're setting
the pace. You are the pace car

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show others as to how things should
be. And if you're not willing to

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do it yourself, if you're only
willing to point at other people and say,

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look what they're not doing, instead
of just doing it and being that

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example, then it doesn't matter.
And it's not that you shouldn't judge one

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another, or there is an opportunity
to judge one another or to correct one

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another, as we talked about earlier, that's important as well, to help

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guide and point and convict. That
should be in growth, not in attitude,

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not in I'm better than you,
not in my way or the highway,

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I'm right you're wrong, but to
guide one another, just like a

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teacher or master and apprentice, you
pass along the best knowledge, the and

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true knowledge, the knowledge that has
been gained through experience, not in an

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ugly way, not in a judgmental
way, but in a helpful way.

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And if you you know, redo
the small things, return the grocery card

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where it's supposed to be, and
be kind to people, be aware of

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the actions that you do and how
they affect others. Then things are are

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just better that way. People,
the whole system works better that way.

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But it it's like one person stopping
on the freeway. If you have one

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person stopping on the freeway, it
slows everybody, everybody down. So you

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have to do is be that example
and live in a way that others,

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that puts others first, and that
thinks about others, and that you're aware

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of how your actions affect others,
and hopefully it will be passed along.

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But it's not always about what the
other people do. It's about what you

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do, how you interact, how
you act with the world that others will

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see, and in that process things
flow better, life moves better, People

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are happier and kinder and more interactive
in a positive way. But if you're

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not willing to do it yourself,
you can't put that on others and expect

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them to do it as well.
Make today a day that focuses on those

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that are willing to die and to
sacrifice so that you may have the freedoms

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you have. Regardless of what you're
doing today and enjoying your friends and family,

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think about those that are willing to
do something so deep and so sacrificial

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for your life, and remember these
words, I Am with You Always k

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